What advice would you give your younger self?

“What advice would you give your younger self?” Since the beginning of the podcast, Jake and Damian have asked this question in almost every conversation as a way of finding out what a high performance life has taught the interviewee. In this episode, they reflect on why this question is important, what they’ve learned from asking it, and review a few of their favourites from Rio Ferdinand, Steven Bartlett and Lucy Easthope.

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Rio Ferdinand - https://pod.fo/e/15914

Steven Bartlett - https://pod.fo/e/16ca9

Lucy Easthope - https://pod.fo/e/120622

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# "What Advice Would You Give Your Younger Self?"

## Introduction:
- The hosts, Jake and Damien, discuss the significance of asking guests on their podcast, "High Performance," what advice they would give their younger selves.
- They emphasize that the answers to this question provide valuable insights into the lessons learned through high-performance journeys.

## Key Points:
1. **Importance of Self-Reflection**:
- Asking this question encourages guests to reflect on their life experiences and identify key moments that shaped their perspectives.
- It allows them to share valuable lessons and insights gained from both successes and failures.

2. **Growth and Learning**:
- The advice offered by guests highlights the importance of continuous growth and learning throughout life.
- High performance is not a fixed state but rather a dynamic process that involves constant adaptation and improvement.

3. **Balance and Enjoyment**:
- Some guests, like Rio Ferdinand, emphasize the importance of finding a balance between achieving success and enjoying the journey.
- They caution against sacrificing personal well-being in the pursuit of high achievement.

4. **High Achievement vs. High Performance**:
- The hosts distinguish between high achievement (measured by societal metrics) and high performance (centered around happiness and fulfillment).
- They emphasize that true high performance goes beyond external validation and focuses on personal growth and well-being.

5. **Patience and Mastery**:
- Guests like Lucy Easthope stress the value of patience and learning to wait for the right opportunities.
- They encourage listeners to focus on mastering their craft and developing their skills rather than rushing to achieve immediate success.

6. **Self-Belief and Confidence**:
- Stephen Bartlett's advice highlights the power of self-belief and confidence in overcoming challenges and achieving success.
- He emphasizes that material circumstances are less important than the circumstances of one's mind and attitude.

7. **Growth Mindset**:
- The guests' advice collectively promotes a growth mindset, encouraging listeners to embrace challenges, learn from mistakes, and continually strive for improvement.

## Conclusion:
- The hosts emphasize the importance of subscribing to the podcast to help it grow and attract bigger names, ultimately leading to a greater impact on listeners' lives.
- They encourage listeners to share the podcast with others and engage in discussions about the valuable lessons shared by the guests.

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[02:11.640 -> 02:15.600] Hey everyone, it's Jake and Damien here with another delve into the world of
[02:15.600 -> 02:19.240] high-performance and today we're going to look closely at a question that I
[02:19.240 -> 02:22.680] think we've probably asked. Is it every single guest that's joined us on
[02:22.680 -> 02:25.520] high-, do you
[02:23.280 -> 02:27.360] think? Easily over 90% Jake. Okay,
[02:25.520 -> 02:32.320] so how many episodes have we done today?
[02:27.360 -> 02:33.800] 185. Okay, so close to 200 episodes of
[02:32.320 -> 02:35.720] High Performance and almost every time
[02:33.800 -> 02:37.120] we've asked this question to the people
[02:35.720 -> 02:38.840] who've joined us. And, you know, let's
[02:37.120 -> 02:40.960] remember these are leaders, these are
[02:38.840 -> 02:42.440] entrepreneurs, these are investors, these
[02:40.960 -> 02:44.800] are artists, these are people who've
[02:42.440 -> 02:47.560] pushed themselves to the absolute limit.
[02:44.800 -> 03:08.000] So we think that their take on this yw'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyrdd a'r ffyryd heddiw? Wel, un o'n ffyrdd fwriadau er mwyn i ddynion sy'n dweud y bydd bydd bywyd yn
[03:08.000 -> 03:10.000] byw yn y ffordd, ond yn ddefnyddio
[03:10.000 -> 03:12.000] edrych yn ôl. Felly, ar gyfer mwy o'n
[03:12.000 -> 03:14.000] gofynwyr, y sylwad o gael
[03:14.000 -> 03:16.000] nhw edrych yn y ffordd y byddent yn
[03:16.000 -> 03:18.000] byw, y ffordd y byddent wedi bod yn ei gilydd,
[03:18.000 -> 03:20.000] a'r ysgrifennodd, a'r hyn y byddent yn
[03:20.000 -> 03:22.000] rhoi'r hyn sy'n eu hymrwyhod i'r ffordd hwnnw
[03:22.000 -> 03:24.000] yn ddiddorol. Mae'n ddiddorol iawn
[03:24.000 -> 03:25.600] y ffyrdd o hyfforddiad hefyd, Jake, y bydd y sylwad o'n gynllunio ar gyfer y byd honno, mae'n ddiddorol iawn. Mae'n ddiddorol iawn o ddysgu technig hefyd, Jake,
[03:25.600 -> 03:30.960] y byddwn yn ymddangos y peth o'n ni'n ymddangos i'n fywydau'n fwyaf, gyda gofod a'r cymdeithas,
[03:30.960 -> 03:36.960] ac yn ymddangos i fod yn ddigon cyffredin gyda'n fwyaf. Felly mae'n dod allan o ddysgu
[03:36.960 -> 03:41.040] style o adroddiad sy'n ddiddorol iawn a ddiddorol i'w clywed.
[03:41.680 -> 03:48.700] Rwy'n hoffi hefyd, oherwydd rwy'n credu bod y cyfrifiad nid yw'n cyfrifiad o'r fywydau'n fwyaf. interesting to listen to. I also like it because I think the answer isn't actually an answer from their younger self. It can't be. It's an answer from the
[03:48.700 -> 03:52.400] person in front of us today. So if we, you know, if we went back to the 12 year
[03:52.400 -> 03:56.280] old guest and said, what advice do you think is gonna be something that you
[03:56.280 -> 03:58.440] look back on when you're older? They wouldn't be able to give us the answer
[03:58.440 -> 04:01.720] because you can only answer this question based on all the incredible
[04:01.720 -> 04:05.760] things and sometimes the hard
[04:02.880 -> 04:08.520] things that you've witnessed. And I think
[04:05.760 -> 04:10.800] it's just a reminder that life is
[04:08.520 -> 04:13.000] a constant process of growth and
[04:10.800 -> 04:16.080] learning and understanding and failing
[04:13.000 -> 04:17.760] and trying a different route. And I think
[04:16.080 -> 04:19.680] that's the really sort of important
[04:17.760 -> 04:20.880] reminder for people is that if you're
[04:19.680 -> 04:22.160] listening to this and you're thinking, what
[04:20.880 -> 04:23.920] you know, should I even listen to high
[04:22.160 -> 04:27.160] performance? I'm not a high performer, I
[04:23.920 -> 04:27.080] don't sort of deserve to live and you're thinking what, you know, should I even listen to high performance? I'm not a high performer, I don't sort of deserve to live and think
[04:27.080 -> 04:30.460] and operate in the way that these guests do. Well our answer is you absolutely do
[04:30.460 -> 04:34.900] deserve that and you know, we're all just doing our best and high performance is
[04:34.900 -> 04:38.980] only that. It's doing your best, it's being happy, it's talking well to
[04:38.980 -> 04:42.620] yourself, it's talking nicely of other people. I think that's quite an important
[04:42.620 -> 04:46.480] thing to remember here. Yeah, I mean there's a really interesting technique yn dda iawn o bobl eraill. Rwy'n credu mai dyna'n beth pwysig i'w gofio yma. Ie, rwy'n credu bod technigaeth ddiddorol ar hyn
[04:46.480 -> 04:51.280] lle mae wedi'i ddod o'r ffordd, os ydych chi'n siarad â'ch hunain,
[04:51.280 -> 04:54.880] fel y byddwch chi'n siarad â chi oedd eich blant ifanc,
[04:54.880 -> 04:59.040] rydych chi'n deimlo mwy o gymdeithas, mwy o ymdrechion a mwy o ddeall.
[04:59.040 -> 05:02.720] Ac mae'n helpu i chi i gyd i ddod o'r ffordd yn anodd hefyd.
[05:02.720 -> 05:07.000] Rwy'n cofio bod y mhysgolion yno, ond roedd'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd to get through tough moments as well.
[05:07.000 -> 05:12.000] I remember that the research is out there but it was Dr. Rongan Chatterjee shared it with us about when you go out for a run for example and the run might get hard and you get out of breath.
[05:12.000 -> 05:14.000] I remember that the research is out there but it was Dr. Rongan Chatterjee shared it with us about when you go out for a run for example and the run might get hard and you get out of breath.
[05:14.000 -> 05:27.240] That inner self-talk of as if you're speaking to a toddler or a child is actually really helpful of getting through those tough moments and so you can get your momentum back again. i ddod allan ar y momentau'n anodd ac i gael eich momentum yn ôl. Mae llawer o ymchwil ar hyn o bryd,
[05:27.240 -> 05:29.000] o'r rhywfaint i gofyn y cwestiwn hwn
[05:29.000 -> 05:32.000] ac yn ymdrech ar y cyfraith y byddwch chi'n rhoi i'r un fwyaf
[05:32.000 -> 05:34.760] yn wir, mae'n werthfawr iawn.
[05:34.760 -> 05:36.560] A ydym ni'n ei wneud? A ydym ni'n ei llwybr?
[05:36.560 -> 05:40.120] Ie, mae rhai cyfraith anodd wedi bod, dwi'n dweud,
[05:40.120 -> 05:43.240] os ydym ni'n mynd yn ôl i'r cyfan cyntaf hwn
[05:43.240 -> 05:45.040] a'r ffyrdd ffyrddol Rheo Ferdinand pan fyddem ni'n mynd i'w gwrdd âfan cyntaf hwn, a'r brif Rheo Ferdinand,
[05:45.040 -> 05:47.960] pan fydden ni'n mynd i'w gwrdd ar ei gwaith yn Manchester,
[05:47.960 -> 05:50.080] mae'n fyfyrwyr sydd wedi byw
[05:50.080 -> 05:51.080] yn bywyd anhygoel,
[05:51.080 -> 05:53.840] ond hefyd yn bywyd o rhai cyfansoddau gwirioneddol.
[05:53.840 -> 05:57.680] Roedd yn siarad am rhagor ei ffraint a'i mam yn y cyfnod hynny,
[05:57.680 -> 05:59.080] yn ôl i'r cyfansoddau hwnnw.
[05:59.080 -> 06:01.360] Felly, y cynghoriad a oedd wedi'i ofyn i ni
[06:01.360 -> 06:02.800] oedd anhygoel.
[06:02.800 -> 06:03.400] Dyma'r cyfansoddau.
[06:03.400 -> 06:04.520] Dyma Rheo Ferdinand,
[06:04.520 -> 06:06.200] cyfan un o'r cyfansoddau cyffredinol. he offered us was invaluable. Here it is, this is Rio Ferdinand, episode one of High Performance.
[06:07.800 -> 06:12.200] What advice would you give to a young Rio just starting out?
[06:12.200 -> 06:17.000] Enjoy the moment more at a time, but then I always say, well, that would have affected me winning more then,
[06:17.000 -> 06:18.400] so why would I want to do that?
[06:19.400 -> 06:20.600] It's a mad game in your head.
[06:20.600 -> 06:22.600] There's the winner's mentality coming through again.
[06:23.400 -> 06:27.320] Now, I think this is really interesting, interesting okay because obviously in my other job as a
[06:27.320 -> 06:32.800] sports presenter I spend my time with people who are right at the centre of
[06:32.800 -> 06:36.520] the sporting world so let me give you my thoughts on this do you mind? Go on.
[06:36.520 -> 06:41.680] Okay so we're recording this on a Friday. Yep. On Tuesday I was at the Etihad
[06:41.680 -> 06:47.200] where Erling Haaland scored five goals in the Champions League. And he came out and he joined us afterwards.
[06:47.200 -> 06:49.320] And we were standing pitch side, talking to him.
[06:49.320 -> 06:51.400] You don't get along with these players in a moment like that.
[06:51.400 -> 06:54.680] I think we were told three minutes only, so it was four or five questions.
[06:55.600 -> 07:02.200] But in that time, I got, I think, a real insight into the genius of that guy, because he's loving it.
[07:02.400 -> 07:04.000] He's totally relaxed.
[07:04.000 -> 07:04.920] He finds it easy.
[07:04.920 -> 07:05.000] You know, sometimes people like to make it's totally relaxed. He finds it easy.
[07:05.000 -> 07:06.800] You know, sometimes people like to make it sound
[07:06.800 -> 07:08.520] and seem more complicated than it is.
[07:08.520 -> 07:10.440] So we said to him, like, how do you do this?
[07:10.440 -> 07:12.280] And his answer was, well, it just sort of happens.
[07:12.280 -> 07:13.420] I find myself in the right place
[07:13.420 -> 07:16.200] and somehow the ball ends up in the back of the net
[07:16.200 -> 07:17.040] because he's in flow.
[07:17.040 -> 07:19.200] He's really, really at the moment in flow.
[07:19.200 -> 07:20.540] Now it may be very different
[07:20.540 -> 07:22.560] if he goes 20 games without a goal
[07:22.560 -> 07:23.840] because then he starts to try,
[07:23.840 -> 07:28.880] then he starts to put effort into it. But at the moment it's fluid, it's fluent, it's
[07:28.880 -> 07:33.040] flow, it's easy, it's natural, it's instinctive, it's intuitive and he had a
[07:33.040 -> 07:36.120] smile on his face and the next day he put up a picture on his social media of him
[07:36.120 -> 07:41.480] lying in bed asleep with the match ball from scoring the hat-trick. So he is, I
[07:41.480 -> 07:45.280] think, a rare exception to this rule that he's enjoying it.
[07:45.280 -> 07:48.800] And I think very, very few people at the elite level do.
[07:48.800 -> 07:53.800] And I think even like he's young and he's only really based on the scene in the last two or three years,
[07:53.800 -> 07:56.400] he's still in that place where he's really enjoying it.
[07:56.400 -> 08:01.400] Sustaining that is a whole other challenge and I think the time will come where it's not so easy.
[08:01.400 -> 08:07.960] Now the reason why I want to mention him and he's in a state of flow and is enjoying it is I think he is rare. I think most people
[08:07.960 -> 08:14.160] have to fight and push and challenge themselves and really analyse their
[08:14.160 -> 08:18.740] situation to get to the very top and I think that finding time for enjoyment
[08:18.740 -> 08:24.880] takes you away from that. So I think that 99% actually of sports people at the
[08:24.880 -> 08:25.280] very top don't enjoy it like Rio Ferdinand said because I think that 99% actually
[08:23.600 -> 08:27.360] of sports people at the very top
[08:25.280 -> 08:28.640] don't enjoy it like Rio Ferdinand said
[08:27.360 -> 08:30.560] because I think you have a choice you
[08:28.640 -> 08:34.480] either can choose to be a high
[08:30.560 -> 08:37.040] achieving person and really enjoy it
[08:34.480 -> 08:39.040] which takes you away from the thing you've
[08:37.040 -> 08:41.600] been doing that got you to where you were.
[08:39.040 -> 08:43.200] Yeah that is it. I think that then you
[08:41.600 -> 08:45.200] get very few people I would put Max
[08:43.200 -> 08:48.000] Verstappen in that mold, I put you, you know, Erling Haaland in that mould. Maybe, you know, Lionel Messi
[08:48.000 -> 08:51.360] would be in that mould. Roger Federer, you know, it's a natural instinctive ability that
[08:51.360 -> 08:56.560] gets them where they are. Someone like Cristiano Ronaldo, he's not a flow footballer, he's
[08:56.560 -> 09:02.200] a graft footballer, he's an effort footballer. He's had to force himself to be that good.
[09:02.200 -> 09:05.640] Equally incredible,
[09:02.680 -> 09:08.280] equally applaudable, maybe even more so.
[09:05.640 -> 09:11.520] Yeah, yeah. But I think for most people
[09:08.280 -> 09:13.600] enjoyment and success are separate,
[09:11.520 -> 09:14.960] which is a shame and a lot of people
[09:13.600 -> 09:17.160] won't want to hear that, but I do feel
[09:14.960 -> 09:18.960] that having heard it many, many, many
[09:17.160 -> 09:20.840] times, it's only at the end when they go,
[09:18.960 -> 09:22.920] oh, I wish I'd enjoyed it. But then I'm like,
[09:20.840 -> 09:24.160] well, if you had enjoyed it, would you
[09:22.920 -> 09:26.120] have still done what you did to get it,
[09:24.160 -> 09:25.040] you know? Well, that's, I mean if you had enjoyed it, would you have still done
[09:23.280 -> 09:26.600] what you did to get it, you know?
[09:25.040 -> 09:28.920] Well, that's, I mean, you used an interesting
[09:26.600 -> 09:30.440] phrase there, high achievement, and I think that
[09:28.920 -> 09:32.120] leads us into a really interesting area
[09:30.440 -> 09:35.240] of high achievement versus high
[09:32.120 -> 09:37.440] performance. Yeah. What would you see is the
[09:35.240 -> 09:39.200] difference of that? I think, well, I think
[09:37.440 -> 09:42.480] they're totally different. I think that
[09:39.200 -> 09:44.880] society makes us think that high
[09:42.480 -> 09:46.840] achievement is high performance, because we're
[09:44.880 -> 09:45.240] judged on, certainly in this country and Society makes us think that high achievement is high performance, because we're judged
[09:45.240 -> 09:50.120] on, certainly in this country and in the countries where this podcast is popular, we're judged
[09:50.120 -> 09:52.440] on the metrics of a capitalist Western culture.
[09:52.440 -> 09:59.000] So high performance is a nice car, a big promotion, kids privately educated, private healthcare,
[09:59.000 -> 10:01.680] nice holidays in the Maldives or whatever.
[10:01.680 -> 10:05.400] The truth is that high performance is only high happiness. It
[10:05.400 -> 10:08.340] can't be anything else because you can have all those things and not be happy
[10:08.340 -> 10:12.540] and many, many people tell us that that is the case because they slip into the
[10:12.540 -> 10:16.440] trap of thinking they're going to be happy when they achieve those things and
[10:16.440 -> 10:20.360] that as we know, you know, second mountain syndrome, it's always there. So high
[10:20.360 -> 10:24.060] performance is, it's a trick and a lie to think that high performance is high
[10:24.060 -> 10:25.280] achievement and high success.
[10:25.280 -> 10:33.280] Yeah. See, because what you're describing there, I love that distinction because if you think of it as a Venn diagram of high performance and high achievement,
[10:33.280 -> 10:39.920] there's that overlap in the middle where those rare beasts that you say, like Harland from this week,
[10:39.920 -> 10:46.000] seem to be occupying of, they're going after incredible achievements, but they're remembering the process of how they're getting there. yn ymwneud â'r broses o sut maen nhw'n mynd yno. Ac rwy'n credu y dylai hynny fod yn rhaid i ni fod yn y podcast hwn,
[10:46.000 -> 10:48.000] a phopeth yr ydym yn ei chreu,
[10:48.000 -> 10:50.000] yn rhaid i fod yn yr antythesis
[10:50.000 -> 10:52.000] o'r ddangoswm ddangosol,
[10:52.000 -> 10:54.000] dangosol, dangosol, dangosol,
[10:54.000 -> 11:05.360] dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, dangosol, Like we can't, and I think people mistake our podcast for that,
[11:05.360 -> 11:06.800] because some of the criticism we get is,
[11:06.800 -> 11:08.880] oh, I'm not listening to another of those,
[11:08.880 -> 11:10.960] hey guys, enjoy the moment and be successful,
[11:10.960 -> 11:12.560] and it'll be worth it podcasts.
[11:12.560 -> 11:15.920] We're not that, you know, we are literally asking incredible people
[11:15.920 -> 11:16.640] how they've done it.
[11:17.200 -> 11:18.080] It's very different.
[11:18.080 -> 11:20.960] And I think quite often, we're the ones saying,
[11:20.960 -> 11:22.240] yeah, but that's unhealthy.
[11:22.240 -> 11:24.000] But that's not going to take you to a place of happiness.
[11:24.000 -> 11:27.200] That's not going to give you serenity at the end.
[11:27.200 -> 11:29.160] We have to say those things
[11:29.160 -> 11:31.080] because there are too many people out there
[11:31.080 -> 11:33.320] lying to their audience and saying,
[11:33.320 -> 11:35.480] get a big car, you'll be happy.
[11:35.480 -> 11:38.000] Be successful, have a six pack, go on holiday.
[11:38.000 -> 11:39.360] Those are the things you should aspire to.
[11:39.360 -> 11:40.520] Why should you aspire to those things?
[11:40.520 -> 11:42.880] How do you know they're gonna make you happy?
[11:42.880 -> 11:46.800] Yeah, I think it's really powerful. And it's a good distinction. I spoke to an
[11:46.800 -> 11:51.160] ultramarathon runner this week who said, he was apologetic, he said, I don't listen
[11:51.160 -> 11:56.280] to your podcast, but I'm aware of it. And I said, okay, what? And his reason was,
[11:56.280 -> 11:59.440] he said, when I'm running, he said, I don't need somebody telling me I need to
[11:59.440 -> 12:03.560] strive for more, I need to get better, he said, because I'm already at that
[12:03.560 -> 12:06.000] struggle point. And my point to him was, well, that's not what the podcast is a'r holl bethau sydd ar y ffordd. Ac rydw i'n gobeithio bod y cyfrifiad yn cael ei gael. Ond rydw i'n gobeithio,
[12:06.000 -> 12:08.000] ac mae'n dweud,
[12:08.000 -> 12:10.000] mae'n dweud,
[12:10.000 -> 12:12.000] mae'n dweud,
[12:12.000 -> 12:14.000] mae'n dweud,
[12:14.000 -> 12:16.000] mae'n dweud,
[12:16.000 -> 12:18.000] mae'n dweud,
[12:18.000 -> 12:20.000] mae'n dweud,
[12:20.000 -> 12:22.000] mae'n dweud,
[12:22.000 -> 12:24.000] mae'n dweud,
[12:24.000 -> 12:25.280] mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, Rio's point almost kick-started a
[12:23.080 -> 12:28.160] really interesting conversation that
[12:25.280 -> 12:30.080] 200 episodes in, we're still trying to
[12:28.160 -> 12:31.760] work it out. And that actually takes us
[12:30.080 -> 12:32.920] nicely onto another clip I think we
[12:31.760 -> 12:35.240] should listen to. So you're about to hear
[12:32.920 -> 12:38.080] from Lucy Easthope who is one of the
[12:35.240 -> 12:39.240] global leaders in disaster recovery. So
[12:38.080 -> 12:42.080] she's one of the first people on the
[12:39.240 -> 12:44.680] ground when a big natural or man-made
[12:42.080 -> 12:46.320] disaster happens. She shared with us some
[12:44.680 -> 12:46.720] amazing lessons and learnings on the podcast,
[12:46.720 -> 12:50.000] but this is what she said her advice would be to her younger self.
[12:50.000 -> 12:55.320] What advice would you give to a young Lucy just starting out?
[12:55.320 -> 13:00.000] Learn to listen, learn to wait, learn to be asked.
[13:00.000 -> 13:05.760] You know, 20-something Lucy was probably much more desperate to impart some of this,
[13:05.760 -> 13:10.960] um, learning to wait. And exactly what we talked about, it won't always be easy to be you, but it'd be worth it.
[13:13.040 -> 13:17.120] Well, I mean, what brilliant advice that is from Lucy, that I think sometimes
[13:18.240 -> 13:23.200] we can be in too much of a rush. I think we want to get to where we want to get to.
[13:23.200 -> 13:24.800] Because again, society tells us.
[13:24.800 -> 13:26.600] Yeah. Be in a rush, get there quick.
[13:26.600 -> 13:29.000] Yeah, we celebrate sort of like young prodigies
[13:29.000 -> 13:31.440] or these people that have got rich quick.
[13:31.440 -> 13:33.360] And I think what Lucy's telling us is
[13:33.360 -> 13:35.800] the benefit of patience is key.
[13:35.800 -> 13:37.680] There's some really interesting research on this, Jake,
[13:37.680 -> 13:39.960] from, there's a lady at the University of London,
[13:39.960 -> 13:42.280] a psychologist called Philippa Lally,
[13:42.280 -> 13:43.720] that's done some really good research.
[13:43.720 -> 14:06.520] I like quoting to people about patience, because there's this myth that it takes you 30 days o'r psychologist, Philip O'Lally, sydd wedi gwneud ymchwilau da iawn. Rwy'n hoffi cwotio i bobl am ymddygiadau, oherwydd mae'r fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwyaf o fwy hundred days, it all depends on you. And I think that's an important point because
[14:06.520 -> 14:09.860] you don't get caught up in the trap of comparing yourself to anybody else. It
[14:09.860 -> 14:14.080] will be subjective and it'll be your own journey. So if you're clear what you want
[14:14.080 -> 14:18.480] to do, like Lucy's describing there, learning to listen, learning to want to
[14:18.480 -> 14:22.600] help others, we need to be patient and learn our craft. The mastery of learning
[14:22.600 -> 14:30.360] our craft is where real high performance lies. You're totally right, you know I loved a conversation I saw with
[14:30.360 -> 14:33.980] Kobe Bryant, the late Kobe Bryant where he said that he knew he had to improve as
[14:33.980 -> 14:37.440] a basketball player, this is when he was 11 years old, right, and he said that I
[14:37.440 -> 14:40.760] knew it wouldn't take me a week or two weeks to get as good as the people who
[14:40.760 -> 14:44.600] were the best in my age group at that time, so he said I dedicated six months
[14:44.600 -> 14:47.380] to being good at shooting, Six months at 11 years old by
[14:47.380 -> 14:50.360] the way. Six months to being good at shooting. He said when I felt I'd mastered
[14:50.360 -> 14:55.640] shooting I dedicated six months to being the best I could at creating the space
[14:55.640 -> 14:58.960] to get the shot away. So he's breaking it down you know not even a
[14:58.960 -> 15:02.400] teenager he's breaking these things down. After two years he was the best player
[15:02.400 -> 15:07.520] in the league. Now it's very easy at 11 we have kids to think if think, oh if I'm not better than them next week I'm going to be
[15:07.520 -> 15:12.280] disheartened. And that really is the strong message for you listening to this today. Great
[15:12.280 -> 15:18.680] things take time. If it doesn't take time, then it isn't great enough. Let it take time.
[15:18.680 -> 15:22.080] Don't be rushed by other people, don't compare yourself to what else is happening in the
[15:22.080 -> 15:26.240] world, don't let the perfection on social media make you feel that you're not getting there.
[15:26.240 -> 15:29.280] I love the phrase, you are exactly where you're meant to be.
[15:29.280 -> 15:32.720] And the reason why I love it isn't because it's necessarily right because people are
[15:32.720 -> 15:36.440] going, yeah, but if I'm struggling at the moment or life's crap or I'm unemployed or
[15:36.440 -> 15:39.520] you know, I can't make ends meet, what do you mean I'm exactly where I'm supposed to
[15:39.520 -> 15:40.720] be?
[15:40.720 -> 15:44.640] The reason why I love that quote is because you can't be anywhere else.
[15:44.640 -> 15:46.640] Be where your feet are, Grace Beverly said to us.
[15:46.640 -> 15:48.160] You can only be in that place.
[15:48.160 -> 15:52.560] So don't worry about where you should be, where you could be, where other people are.
[15:52.560 -> 15:54.960] Worry only about what you're doing.
[15:54.960 -> 15:56.360] You don't even worry about where you're going.
[15:56.360 -> 16:01.160] Like, worry about what you're doing, because what you're doing will determine all of those other things.
[16:01.160 -> 16:03.560] Where you're going, how long it takes to get there, when you get there.
[16:03.560 -> 16:06.160] And you'll get there when your effort and your
[16:06.160 -> 16:09.240] consistency and your desire allows you to.
[16:09.240 -> 16:16.680] Yeah, it's interesting. I was reading a book this week about the power of awe, like A-W-E,
[16:16.680 -> 16:21.600] and one of the things that was in it was about control where your thoughts go. So
[16:21.600 -> 16:28.080] there's some research from a guy,, yma Dr Singer, sy'n siarad am sut y gall
[16:28.080 -> 16:33.840] eich ddau ffyrdd i'w ddod i'r dyfodol a'i ymdrechu ar beth sydd wedi mynd, neu y gall eich ddau ffyrdd
[16:33.840 -> 16:39.040] i'r dyfodol a chweil ar y lle mae angen, neu y gall y dydd yn y dydd. Ond yr hyn
[16:39.040 -> 16:43.520] y dweudwyd yw, os ydych chi'n mynd i alluogi'r ffyrdd dyfodol i'w ddod, gwneud yn gynhyrchol
[16:43.520 -> 16:49.280] a gwneud yn dda, fel y gwyddoch, mae yna ddod o'r ffyrdd i'w ddod, ond neidio'n mynd allow the future thoughts to go. Make it constructive and make it positive so you know there's a sense of direction to it but don't spend too long there because
[16:49.280 -> 16:53.480] you need to come back to where your feet are in the moment to make
[16:53.480 -> 16:57.160] sure that they're aligned and they're pointing in the right direction.
[16:57.160 -> 17:01.080] Be where your feet are. Right, let's wrap this up by hearing from incredible
[17:01.080 -> 17:05.400] podcaster Stephen Bartlett who joined us on the High Performance Podcast.
[17:05.400 -> 17:08.100] This is the advice he would give to his younger self.
[17:09.280 -> 17:11.060] So what advice would you give a teenage Steven
[17:11.060 -> 17:12.740] just starting out?
[17:12.740 -> 17:16.320] You were right when you thought that you could,
[17:16.320 -> 17:19.200] regardless of grades and regardless of not having
[17:19.200 -> 17:21.880] the silver spoon or anything, you were right in that.
[17:21.880 -> 17:24.380] Yeah, and that actually didn't matter.
[17:24.380 -> 17:26.720] What mattered more wasn't your material circumstances,
[17:26.720 -> 17:29.300] it was the circumstances of your mind.
[17:31.880 -> 17:33.880] And I think that's almost the perfect way
[17:33.880 -> 17:34.840] to wrap this episode up,
[17:34.840 -> 17:36.880] because it's about the power of self-belief.
[17:36.880 -> 17:37.840] How many times have we said it?
[17:37.840 -> 17:39.320] If you think you can, you might,
[17:39.320 -> 17:41.080] if you think you can't, you definitely won't.
[17:41.080 -> 17:43.440] Yeah, definitely, and Stephen's a great example of it.
[17:43.440 -> 17:45.840] I mean, his own podcast is phenomenal, and the work that he's doing is really groundbreaking, you definitely won't. Yeah, definitely. And Stephen's a great example of it. I
[17:43.440 -> 17:48.320] mean, his own podcast is phenomenal and
[17:45.840 -> 17:49.960] you know, the work that he's doing is
[17:48.320 -> 17:52.080] really groundbreaking, but that comes from
[17:49.960 -> 17:53.640] his origins of having that sense of
[17:52.080 -> 17:55.880] belief and that confidence of backing
[17:53.640 -> 17:58.200] himself. I think we can all do with a bit
[17:55.880 -> 18:00.280] more of that. Absolutely. Thank you so much
[17:58.200 -> 18:01.720] for listening, for sharing, to being
[18:00.280 -> 18:04.040] part of the High Performance Journey. It's
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