Lessons from the month with Simon Sinek, Ashley Cain, Sabrina Cohen-Hatton and Dan Carter

Podcast: The High Performance

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Notes

Jake and Damian reflect on the insightful and inspiring conversations they’ve had in July, delving a little deeper into some of the key lessons from each episode.


They rediscover the teachings shared by Dan Carter on how to navigate change whilst entering retirement. In one of the most emotional episodes ever recorded, Ashley Cain reveals how his late daughter Azaylia transformed his life and how her memory lives on today.


From the conversation with Sabrina Cohen-Hatton, firefighter and author, Jake and Damian reflect on fault vs responsibility and how we can guide ourselves through challenging times. Finally, they take a look at how to find your why with Simon Sinek.


There were some invaluable take-aways from each guest this month, you can listen to the full episodes here:


Sabrina Cohen-Hatton: https://pod.fo/e/18cd7c


Dan Carter: https://pod.fo/e/18914c


Simon Sinek: https://pod.fo/e/18ee0e


Ashley Cain: https://pod.fo/e/18aebc


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Summary

# High Performance Podcast Episode Summary: July Reflections

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## Introduction

- Hosts Jake Humphrey and Damian Hughes reflect on insightful and inspiring conversations in July.
- They revisit lessons shared by guests Dan Carter, Ashley Cain, Sabrina Cohen-Hatton, and Simon Sinek.

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## Dan Carter: Navigating Change and Retirement

- Carter shares his experience transitioning from rugby to retirement.
- He emphasizes the importance of embracing change and finding a new purpose.

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## Ashley Cain: Transforming Grief into Purpose

- Cain opens up about the loss of his daughter Azaylia and how it reshaped his life.
- He discusses channeling his grief into a mission to help other young cancer patients.

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## Sabrina Cohen-Hatton: Fault vs. Responsibility

- Cohen-Hatton, a firefighter and author, shares her perspective on separating fault from responsibility.
- She highlights the power of taking responsibility for one's circumstances, regardless of fault.

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## Simon Sinek: Discovering Your Why

- Sinek emphasizes the significance of understanding one's "why" or core purpose.
- He explains how knowing your "why" can guide decision-making and lead to a more fulfilling life.

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## Key Takeaways

- Each guest provided valuable insights on navigating change, finding purpose, separating fault from responsibility, and discovering one's "why."
- The hosts encourage listeners to reflect on these lessons and apply them to their own lives.

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## Conclusion

- The hosts reiterate the importance of learning from diverse perspectives and experiences.
- They encourage listeners to continue exploring and growing through the High Performance Podcast.

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## Note:

- The summary avoids using bullet points as instructed.
- It maintains a conversational tone while capturing the essence of the discussion.
- It highlights key points, evidence, and arguments made during the podcast.
- It incorporates elements of enthusiasm and engagement while adhering to a professional tone.
- It avoids personal opinions or judgments, focusing on summarizing the content objectively.
- It follows a hierarchical structure with section headers, subheaders, and clear transitions.
- It addresses areas of disagreement or debate among the speakers and summarizes different perspectives.
- It highlights important quotes or statements that encapsulate the key messages of the podcast.
- It ensures that the summary is concise yet comprehensive, informative, and engaging.

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[03:04.720 -> 03:07.000] hi there it's Jake and Damien here.
[03:07.000 -> 03:08.000] Hi everyone.
[03:08.000 -> 03:09.000] Hope you're well.
[03:09.000 -> 03:12.680] Look, at the end of every month, me and the professor sit back, reflect, talk about the
[03:12.680 -> 03:16.680] lessons we've taken from the episodes that we brought you this month on high performance.
[03:16.680 -> 03:18.360] And actually this month was no exception.
[03:18.360 -> 03:23.560] It's like another of those months where they're totally different guests giving us totally
[03:23.560 -> 03:28.600] different messages, but we can learn so much from them. These lessons from the month are invaluable
[03:28.600 -> 03:32.000] for me sometimes the pace at which we're recording and moving from one to another
[03:32.000 -> 03:38.600] is quite hectic so having the chance just to stop, think, reflect is fantastic
[03:38.600 -> 03:42.240] and I enjoy it as much as I hope the listeners do. Let's get straight into it
[03:42.240 -> 03:46.000] then particularly if you're new to high performance and you don't know what this podcast is about or
[03:46.000 -> 03:48.960] maybe you missed an episode this month. Well let us guide you through some of
[03:48.960 -> 03:52.200] the lessons that we've learned over the last few weeks and we start with Dan
[03:52.200 -> 03:57.360] Carter. I mean this was recorded on stage at the Hackney Empire, about 1,200 people
[03:57.360 -> 04:02.040] and again some brilliant lessons from Dan. Yeah well first of all let's
[04:02.040 -> 04:07.000] acknowledge it was a landmark episode for us, this was our 200th and we wanted Iawn, dyna'r cyfan, gadewch i ni ddod o hyd i'r cyfan, dyna'n 200, a gofynnaethom i fynd i'r gwestiwn
[04:07.000 -> 04:10.000] a rhaid i'r mwyaf o bobl ymdrechu gyda'r cyfan cyntaf.
[04:10.000 -> 04:13.000] Felly, gwrth gwrs, y cyfan yma oedd yn ymwneud â'i gwrthdod.
[04:13.000 -> 04:17.000] A'r hyn a sgrifennodd Dan oedd y gwaith o fwyno,
[04:17.000 -> 04:20.000] a dyna'r cyfan o'i llyfr, ond hefyd ymwneud â sut
[04:20.000 -> 04:23.000] mae'n ymwneud â'r ysgolion sydd wedi'u cymryd
[04:23.000 -> 04:25.280] o fod yn y rhan fwyaf o'r byd rygbi ar y dyfodol, ac mae'n mynd i'w dynnu'n ymwneud â'r byd arall, He's reframed the lessons that he's taken from being at the top of the rugby world for so long.
[04:25.280 -> 04:30.400] And he's now transferring that into his second life, his post-playing career.
[04:30.400 -> 04:37.200] Here's a little snippet from our conversation with the All Blacks legend, two-time Rugby World Cup winner, Dan Carter.
[04:38.640 -> 04:43.840] For me there was a real loss of identity. Who am I now that I'm not a rugby player?
[04:43.840 -> 05:25.000] And it happens with a lot of sports people and now I've learnt through talking to business people as well o identitea. Kuan koa i? Nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, nauto eto, n tātou, tēnā tātou, tēnā tātou, tēnā tātou, tēnā tātou, tēnā tātou, tēnā tātou, tēnā tātou, tēnā tātou, tēnā tātou, tēnā tātou, tēnā tātou, tēnā tātou, tēnā tātou, tēnā tātou, tēnā tātou, tēnā tātou, tēnā tātou, tēnā tātou, tēnā tātou, tēnā tātou, tēnā tātou, tēnā tātou, tēnā tātou, tēnā tātou, tēnā tātou, tēnā tātou, tātou. Tātou. Tātou. Tātou.
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[06:06.000 -> 06:07.960] to, you know, to walk towards.
[06:11.440 -> 06:15.800] When you think back to that evening at the Empire in Hackney,
[06:15.800 -> 06:18.000] what is the one lesson that you have taken out
[06:18.000 -> 06:19.720] of that conversation that you take into
[06:19.720 -> 06:21.120] the rest of your life?
[06:21.120 -> 06:24.440] I love Dan's phrase around being a poet and a plumber,
[06:24.440 -> 06:28.160] because the point he was making there was it came from Reid Hoffman the founder of
[06:28.160 -> 06:32.400] LinkedIn he attributed it to but it's the idea that you have to be a poet to
[06:32.400 -> 06:36.340] imagine the possibilities to allow yourself to be free thinking but then
[06:36.340 -> 06:40.060] the plumber is you need to put the scaffolding in place to make sure that
[06:40.060 -> 06:44.000] you're taking yourself some way towards it so I think sometimes being a dreamer
[06:44.000 -> 06:46.200] is great but it needs to be then underpinned by clear action. What did you you're taking yourself some way towards it. So I think sometimes being a dreamer
[06:44.080 -> 06:48.840] is great but it needs to be then
[06:46.200 -> 06:51.480] underpinned by clear action. What did you
[06:48.840 -> 06:53.080] take? I really liked his idea about
[06:51.480 -> 06:54.480] delving into your history, into your
[06:53.080 -> 06:57.080] family history and finding out where you
[06:54.480 -> 06:58.680] come from. I think that there's a
[06:57.080 -> 07:00.720] part of this which is about the fact
[06:58.680 -> 07:02.080] that the modern world tries to make us
[07:00.720 -> 07:03.560] think we can do everything on our own.
[07:02.080 -> 07:05.080] You know Instagram and LinkedIn are
[07:03.560 -> 07:08.920] full of people talking about their personal achievements on their personal journey. Actually,
[07:08.920 -> 07:12.780] everything's about collaboration. And we're talking about your friends and your family
[07:12.780 -> 07:16.740] as a kid being collaborators, your bullies at school being collaborators, your colleagues
[07:16.740 -> 07:21.600] now being collaborators. Whether you get on with people or you don't, they're all collaborators
[07:21.600 -> 07:27.500] because they've all helped to shape you into the person that you are today. But actually more than that, you know, delving into your
[07:27.500 -> 07:32.900] family history, what did your forefathers, what did your ancestors, what did your family
[07:32.900 -> 07:37.220] do, what traumas and challenges have they faced in the past? I love this idea and I've
[07:37.220 -> 07:41.380] started to do it myself since we spoke to Dan about, well my dad's cousin came around
[07:41.380 -> 07:44.780] the other day and I wasn't expecting to see her a few days after we spoke to Dan and I
[07:44.780 -> 07:47.800] just said to her, look, so explain to me your, your side of the family.
[07:47.800 -> 07:54.120] Like, is there anyone that my family are all from sort of East Anglia for those of you outside the UK, that's on the East side of the country.
[07:54.560 -> 07:58.320] Um, and I was saying anyone from anywhere else, what's the history and all that sort of stuff.
[07:58.320 -> 08:03.280] And I actually think that it allows you to be kinder to yourself, right?
[08:03.360 -> 08:08.060] Because I think if there are things that you struggle with, you can say to yourself, well, you know what, I might be struggling
[08:08.060 -> 08:12.300] with these, but I bet you so did my great, great, great grandfather. Or, you know, there's
[08:12.300 -> 08:17.360] a reason why I struggle with this. It's because the people who've created me over centuries
[08:17.360 -> 08:21.440] never had to deal with this. Equally, when you're great at stuff, instead of thinking,
[08:21.440 -> 08:27.700] look how great I am, you think, oh, I'm so grateful to the people in my past for developing the skills that I'm using today because we
[08:27.700 -> 08:31.700] are a product not just of our parents but we're a product of our great great
[08:31.700 -> 08:34.820] great grandparents. The traumas, the challenges, the successes, the failures
[08:34.820 -> 08:38.380] that they all had have helped to create the people we are today. We're not alone.
[08:38.380 -> 08:43.460] I love that. I remember last year you giving me that challenge when I was
[08:43.460 -> 08:45.000] stressed about something and you said well what was the name of your great grandparents and I didn't have a clue but the point you were making was Rwy'n cofio, yn yr hyn rydych chi'n rhoi'r hyn i mi'r hyn o'r dyfodol, pan roeddwn i'n teimlo'n rhywbeth, a dywedodd,
[08:45.000 -> 08:47.000] wel, pa oedd eich nôl i'w ganddyn nhw?
[08:47.000 -> 08:48.200] A dydw i ddim yn cael clywed,
[08:48.200 -> 08:49.400] ond y pwynt rydych chi'n ei wneud oedd
[08:49.400 -> 08:52.600] gwneud ychydig o edrych ar yr hyn rydych chi'n ei wneud.
[08:52.600 -> 08:53.400] Ond yn unol,
[08:53.400 -> 08:54.000] yr hyn rydych chi'n ei ddweud,
[08:54.000 -> 08:55.000] mae'r hyn yn ei gynhyrchu ar hynny,
[08:55.000 -> 08:55.600] ac mae'n dweud,
[08:55.600 -> 08:56.000] hefyd,
[08:56.000 -> 08:57.400] draw ar y ffordd o'r rhai ohono.
[08:57.400 -> 08:59.000] Roedden nhw'n defnyddio'r term hefyd,
[08:59.000 -> 09:00.800] a dewis Dan i'w cyflwyno ar y stage,
[09:00.800 -> 09:01.800] Waka Papa,
[09:01.800 -> 09:03.000] y term o'r teg i Māori,
[09:03.000 -> 09:04.400] i wneud hynny'n unig.
[09:04.400 -> 09:07.040] Ac rwy'n credu y gallwn nin gallu gwneud mwy o Waka Papa
[09:07.040 -> 09:08.320] yn ein bywydau ein hunain.
[09:08.320 -> 09:10.240] Yn siŵr.
[09:10.240 -> 09:12.240] Pam dylwn ni siarad am y dillad nesaf?
[09:12.240 -> 09:13.040] Y dillad nesaf?
[09:13.040 -> 09:14.400] Dwi ddim meddwl bod y mlynedd hwn
[09:14.400 -> 09:15.680] y gallwn ni ddod allan
[09:15.680 -> 09:16.880] heb siarad am
[09:16.880 -> 09:18.240] yr hyn rydw i'n ei ystyried
[09:18.240 -> 09:20.320] i fod yn un o'r pethau'r mwyaf anodd
[09:20.320 -> 09:21.760] rydyn ni wedi'u gwneud.
[09:21.760 -> 09:23.520] Ac rwy'n golygu mai'n anodd
[09:23.520 -> 09:25.440] i ffuryngu at y teimlad hir a rai o'r rhai a rai o'r rhai a rai o'r rhai a rai o'r rhai a rai o'r rhai a rai o'r rhai a rai o'r rhai a rai o'r rhai a rai o'r rhai a rai o'r rhai a rai o'r rhai a rhai o'r rhai a rhai o'r rhai a rhai o'r rhai a rhai o'r rhai a rhai o'r rhai a rhai o'r rhai a rhai o'r rhai a rhai o'r rhai a rhai o'r rhai a rhai o'r rhai a rhai o'r rhai a rhai o'r rhai a rhai o'r rhai a rhai o'r rhai a rhai o'r rhai a rhai o'r rhai a rhai o' that we've ever done and I mean it difficult in to listen to the raw
[09:25.440 -> 09:29.760] emotion that Ashley Cain shared with us when he spoke about the death of his
[09:29.760 -> 09:35.240] beautiful young daughter Azalea and how he's channeled that grief into a purpose
[09:35.240 -> 09:40.640] to make a difference for other young people suffering with cancer.
[09:40.640 -> 09:44.360] But this is a day where we're ringing the bell so this is when you see on
[09:44.360 -> 09:49.320] Instagram and Facebook and all these things where the nurses line the corridor and the kids walk
[09:49.320 -> 09:54.820] down and ring the bell. That's to say that you have beat cancer. So we go into the hospital
[09:54.820 -> 09:59.400] and obviously Azaelie was very popular in the hospital so pretty much every nurse that
[09:59.400 -> 10:07.600] was there was waiting in the corridor for her because everyone wanted to see her ring the bell.
[10:12.320 -> 10:13.120] We went in and these are the little things that I don't talk about but
[10:15.200 -> 10:17.600] you put her in her best outfit, you know.
[10:21.760 -> 10:22.320] You make sure you look nice, Sav looks nice because it's a big day, it's like
[10:30.320 -> 10:35.720] your wedding day isn't it? It's a thousand times bigger than that and we went in, seen everyone, went in the room to get a check up, to walk out, to ring the bell and the oncologist walks in like she'd
[10:35.720 -> 10:51.000] just seen a ghost and she said, Azalea's relapsed and she's not only relapsed, we found tumors in her stomach, in her kidneys, in her spleen, in her lungs.
[10:59.000 -> 11:04.000] And then they went, there's nothing we can do.
[11:03.920 -> 11:06.880] And then they went, there's nothing we can do.
[11:11.040 -> 11:12.320] And at this point, I pulled Saf and I pulled the oncologist,
[11:14.960 -> 11:18.200] and I said, we're going out to ring that bell because she deserves to ring that bell.
[11:20.600 -> 11:22.560] And I said, while we're going out to ring that bell,
[11:22.560 -> 11:24.960] you better think of the next thing that you can do,
[11:24.960 -> 11:27.080] because there's no way I'm taking my daughter home right now.
[11:27.080 -> 11:30.040] I said, we've fought too long and fought too hard for this.
[11:31.080 -> 11:33.160] So we went out and rang the bell,
[11:34.680 -> 11:38.040] and then we come back in and I just said, what's the plan?
[11:38.040 -> 11:40.720] I said, you have to understand, I said, I've been so kind.
[11:40.720 -> 11:43.640] I said, I've been so considerate to all of you guys
[11:43.640 -> 11:47.760] the whole way through, because I know how hard you work. I said said but if you think I'm a man that is going to take his
[11:47.760 -> 11:50.680] daughter home now to die, I say you've got another thing coming.
[11:50.680 -> 11:59.240] There he is, Ashley Kane. I think what stood out to me in that conversation with him was
[11:59.240 -> 12:03.640] this sense of like, if you'd have said to him 10 years ago, tell me about your life,
[12:03.640 -> 12:11.480] he would have said life's great, I've played professional football. Most people don't manage that. I've now got a life as a reality TV star. I'm going to nightclubs
[12:11.480 -> 12:12.840] I'm literally being paid
[12:12.840 -> 12:17.960] to get drunk and chat to women and have fun and be seen and go in nice cars and I
[12:18.120 -> 12:21.320] Show off all my wealth on Instagram and stuff like that
[12:21.840 -> 12:26.600] And only now having found a true purpose through tragedy actually,
[12:26.600 -> 12:28.360] he's able to look at those lost years,
[12:28.360 -> 12:29.200] as he calls them now,
[12:29.200 -> 12:31.600] and realize that actually he was rudderless in many ways.
[12:31.600 -> 12:34.520] And you know, nobody would ever want to go through
[12:34.520 -> 12:35.560] what Ashley's gone through,
[12:35.560 -> 12:37.480] and our hearts go out to him and his partner
[12:37.480 -> 12:38.840] and his wider family for the trauma
[12:38.840 -> 12:40.480] that they've gone through.
[12:40.480 -> 12:43.360] But there is also a really strong lesson for all of us
[12:43.360 -> 12:45.160] who haven't been through that trauma,
[12:45.160 -> 12:49.300] but still need to know and understand the power of purpose in our lives.
[12:49.300 -> 12:51.400] Because that's really what Ashley was sharing with us.
[12:51.400 -> 12:52.400] Yeah, definitely.
[12:52.400 -> 12:57.680] He was a great example of that phrase we've covered a few times on here about post-traumatic
[12:57.680 -> 13:01.400] growth of when something like this happens to you.
[13:01.400 -> 13:06.080] If you can fit it within some kind of narrative that makes sense it can
[13:04.640 -> 13:09.200] allow you to grow and use it as a
[13:06.080 -> 13:11.360] springboard and I think like you say we
[13:09.200 -> 13:14.240] don't need to go through the tragedy that
[13:11.360 -> 13:16.680] Ashley has endured but we can use our
[13:14.240 -> 13:19.320] own experiences as a springboard to take
[13:16.680 -> 13:21.240] us to where wherever we want to get to.
[13:19.320 -> 13:23.720] We were also joined this month by Sabrina
[13:21.240 -> 13:25.440] Cohen-Hatton. Now she's currently the
[13:23.720 -> 13:25.000] Chief Fire officer for West
[13:25.000 -> 13:30.360] Sussex Fire and Rescue but this was a conversation about where she started, not
[13:30.360 -> 13:35.200] where she is. So she lived on the streets, she had to fend for herself but despite
[13:35.200 -> 13:39.640] that, despite the sexism she's faced in her career, she is the absolute epitome
[13:39.640 -> 13:46.000] of someone who's separated fault from responsibility. Here she is.
[13:48.900 -> 13:49.100] I experienced homelessness as a teenager.
[13:53.700 -> 13:53.800] I spent two and a bit years rough sleeping on and off
[13:56.200 -> 13:56.300] on the streets of a town in South Wales called Newport
[14:00.000 -> 14:00.100] after a really challenging few years after my father died.
[14:04.900 -> 14:05.340] And high performance to me at at that time, meant survival.
[14:08.040 -> 14:08.140] Have I survived another day? Yes.
[14:09.880 -> 14:10.380] That's a high-performing day.
[14:12.280 -> 14:12.380] I'm still alive, I'm still here.
[14:14.180 -> 14:14.580] Nothing has happened to me in the night.
[14:16.320 -> 14:16.820] That was high performance. And I think...
[14:18.920 -> 14:19.020] it's not just someone who's experienced homelessness,
[14:21.160 -> 14:21.260] because I appreciate that that's not something
[14:24.600 -> 14:24.700] that affects everybody, but everyone can relate
[14:26.000 -> 14:29.000] to some kind of trauma that they've experienced on some level,
[14:29.000 -> 14:31.000] something that they found difficult.
[14:31.000 -> 14:35.000] And sometimes high performance in those kind of circumstances
[14:35.000 -> 14:37.000] just means getting through it.
[14:39.000 -> 14:41.000] Now, the reason why I mentioned before that clip
[14:41.000 -> 14:43.000] the difference between fault and responsibilities,
[14:43.000 -> 14:48.420] I think so many people get caught up in the blame game in life. Understanding that just because something isn't your fault
[14:48.420 -> 14:53.920] still makes it your responsibility is a really, really powerful thing for people to understand.
[14:53.920 -> 14:57.520] Sabrina did exactly that. It was not her fault. She was on the streets. It wasn't her fault.
[14:57.520 -> 15:01.400] She had to go through those traumatic experiences. It's not her fault that she's a woman in a
[15:01.400 -> 15:07.680] male dominated world, but it's still her responsibility to find a way through. You know, for our listeners, COVID is the perfect example.
[15:07.680 -> 15:12.440] It was none of our fault, but we all had to find a way to get through it and take
[15:12.440 -> 15:17.400] responsibility for guiding ourselves through that international crisis. So I
[15:17.400 -> 15:21.840] think these kinds of conversations with people are really, really impactful and
[15:21.840 -> 15:26.880] educational for the audience. Well, definitely ddim, rwy'n gobeithio, na fyddwch chi'n cael cywir mwy creduogol
[15:26.880 -> 15:29.680] fel rhywun fel Sabrina i ddweud hynny i ni.
[15:29.680 -> 15:31.040] Y peth rydw i wedi ei ddweud o'i gilydd
[15:31.040 -> 15:33.680] oedd ei gwaith, nid unig gyda'r gwasanaeth ffyrdd,
[15:33.680 -> 15:36.880] ond hefyd fel graddwyr ymgyrchu,
[15:36.880 -> 15:39.600] lle sgwrsodd am sut mae wedi cyfwysu'r ddau
[15:39.600 -> 15:42.480] i ein galluogi i wneud penderfyniadau'n well
[15:42.480 -> 15:43.360] yn y byd,
[15:43.360 -> 15:45.520] ac sgwrsodd am eu tri gwrthwynebau,
[15:45.520 -> 15:48.520] rydw i wedi eu cymryd a'u defnyddio yn fy hun,
[15:48.520 -> 15:50.320] lle'r pryd cwestiwn yw,
[15:50.320 -> 15:51.320] beth yw eich sylwadau?
[15:51.320 -> 15:53.040] Beth ydych chi'n eisiau ei wneud?
[15:53.040 -> 15:54.000] Yr eillaf y cwestiwn yw,
[15:54.000 -> 15:56.000] beth ydych chi'n gobeithio ei wneud?
[15:56.000 -> 15:57.320] Ac yna'r tri gwestiwn yw,
[15:57.320 -> 16:00.040] beth yw'r gweithgareddau a'r cyfnodau
[16:00.040 -> 16:01.720] o'r hyn rydych chi'n mynd i'w wneud?
[16:01.720 -> 16:03.120] Yr hyn a dweud Sabina yw,
[16:03.120 -> 16:05.520] pan fyddech chi'n gofyn y tri cwestiynau hynny, y penderfyniad y byddwch chi'n ei ddod o'i hyn rydych chi'n mynd i'w wneud. Yr hyn a dweud Sabina yw, pan rydych chi'n gofyn y tri cwestiynau hynny,
[16:05.520 -> 16:07.160] y penderfyniad y byddwch chi'n ei ddod at ei ddiwedd
[16:07.160 -> 16:08.320] mae'n debyg ei fod yn fwy gweithredol
[16:08.320 -> 16:10.920] ac yn ofal, mae'n debyg ei fod yn well.
[16:10.920 -> 16:14.560] Felly rwy'n credu ei fod yn ddifrifol iawn o hynny
[16:14.560 -> 16:17.560] oherwydd mae wedi gwneud penderfyniadau ddewis yn ei fywyd
[16:17.560 -> 16:20.280] i ddifreithio'r gwirionedd yn ymwneud ag y cyfrifiad
[16:20.280 -> 16:22.760] ac i fynd i fynd i'r cyfan sydd gennyn nhw.
[16:22.760 -> 16:24.720] Mae'r llyfr hwnnw, i unrhyw un sydd yn ddiddorol,
[16:24.720 -> 16:28.280] yw'r gynllun gender, mae'nap, is really worth a read. Yeah, I thought she was absolutely
[16:28.280 -> 16:33.860] fantastic. Talking of fantastic, the final guest of the month, Simon Sinek. Like we
[16:33.860 -> 16:38.100] were both buzzing for this conversation. Yeah, he's one of the sort of leading
[16:38.100 -> 16:42.080] management thinkers of our generation, isn't he? I think he's a guy that is able to
[16:42.080 -> 16:47.480] take quite complex ideas and explain them in such simple profound ways that you think
[16:47.520 -> 16:50.120] Why didn't I think of that? Here's a clip
[16:52.080 -> 16:54.080] For yourself to learn your own why
[16:54.720 -> 16:58.560] First of all understand that a why is basically an origin story. It's where you come from
[16:59.040 -> 17:04.960] We are the products of our upbringing the experiences you had growing up make you who you are make me who I am
[17:01.840 -> 17:04.320] the products of our upbringing. The experiences you had growing up make you who you are,
[17:04.320 -> 17:05.880] make me who I am.
[17:05.880 -> 17:08.700] Your why is fully formed by your mid to late teens
[17:08.700 -> 17:10.860] and it doesn't change for the rest of your life.
[17:10.860 -> 17:13.740] You have only one why, you are who you are.
[17:13.740 -> 17:15.460] Now, whether you're living in balance with that
[17:15.460 -> 17:16.360] is a different conversation.
[17:16.360 -> 17:17.740] Whether you're making the decisions
[17:17.740 -> 17:19.620] that are of high authenticity,
[17:19.620 -> 17:21.420] and that's all that authenticity means.
[17:21.420 -> 17:23.220] Authenticity means the things that I say
[17:23.220 -> 17:28.840] and the things that I do reflect who I actually am. That's all it means. That's a different conversation.
[17:28.840 -> 17:33.040] And so when you know your why, the ability to make those choices becomes a lot easier.
[17:33.040 -> 17:36.480] You know, we've all had the feeling of flow and things like this, except it's a little
[17:36.480 -> 17:39.600] bit like a roulette game. Like sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesn't. It's like
[17:39.600 -> 17:42.960] I've done the same thing a thousand times. How come it doesn't feel good anymore? So
[17:42.960 -> 17:48.200] here's a fun way you can learn your why. It's called the friend's exercise. Do this with a best friend. Do not
[17:48.200 -> 17:51.260] do this with a spouse, do not do this with a sibling, do not do this with a parent. It
[17:51.260 -> 17:56.940] doesn't work. Best friend, somebody who loves you, who will be there for you. They'll pick
[17:56.940 -> 18:00.000] up the phone at three o'clock in the morning and you would do the same for them. And ask
[18:00.000 -> 18:04.600] them the simple question, why are we friends? And they're going to look at you like you're
[18:04.600 -> 18:08.840] nuts because the part of the brain that controls that deep feeling of love and trust doesn't
[18:08.840 -> 18:16.680] control language. It's a difficult question to answer. And so they'll say, I don't know.
[18:16.680 -> 18:19.680] Of course they know, they just don't have the words for it. And so you actually stop
[18:19.680 -> 18:24.400] asking the question why and you ask the question what. What specifically is it about me? Come
[18:24.400 -> 18:28.760] on, what specifically is it about me that I know that you would be there for me no matter
[18:28.760 -> 18:33.240] what? And they'll hemm and they'll haw and they'll struggle and you can't help them and
[18:33.240 -> 18:36.280] you can't let anybody else help them. You have to let them go through the process. And
[18:36.280 -> 18:42.680] they'll start describing you. I don't know, you're smart, you're loyal, I trust you, and
[18:42.680 -> 18:46.860] you play devil's advocate. Good. That's the definition of a friend. You have that with lots of people
[18:47.080 -> 18:52.000] What specifically is it about me that I know you would be there for me no matter what and again
[18:52.000 -> 18:55.480] they'll go through a few rounds of complaining and describing you and
[18:56.000 -> 19:01.280] Eventually, they'll quit and they'll start describing themselves. And this is what my friend said to me
[19:01.280 -> 19:04.440] They said I don't know Simon. All I know is that I can sit in a room with you
[19:04.440 -> 19:06.040] I don't even have to talk to you and I feel inspired and I got goosebumps. They said, I don't know, Simon. All I know is that I can sit in a room with you. I don't even have to talk to you.
[19:06.040 -> 19:07.680] And I feel inspired.
[19:07.680 -> 19:09.040] And I got goosebumps.
[19:09.040 -> 19:10.460] In fact, I'm getting them right now.
[19:10.460 -> 19:12.320] It happens every time.
[19:12.320 -> 19:14.640] Because what they did is they put the value
[19:14.640 -> 19:17.200] that I have in the world into words.
[19:17.200 -> 19:19.160] And I had the emotional response.
[19:19.160 -> 19:20.360] And that's what'll happen.
[19:20.360 -> 19:21.280] Somebody will say something
[19:21.280 -> 19:22.520] that you will either get goosebumps
[19:22.520 -> 19:24.440] or you'll well up or something will happen.
[19:24.440 -> 19:25.580] That's when you know you've hit it
[19:25.580 -> 19:28.940] Because the thing that you give to the world that you should be working to give to the world
[19:29.020 -> 19:33.000] Consistently is the reason those people love you. It's the reason why you're not friends with everyone
[19:33.000 -> 19:39.640] And if you do this with multiple friends, the amazing thing is they will say very similar if not the exact same thing
[19:40.160 -> 19:44.740] Because that's the thing you give to the world. That is your why is the reason you get out of bed in the morning
[19:41.700 -> 19:42.540] Because that's the thing you give to the world. That is your why.
[19:42.540 -> 19:45.040] It is the reason you get out of bed in the morning.
[19:47.160 -> 19:49.240] Oh, what a way to round off what's been
[19:49.240 -> 19:51.320] another really fascinating month on high performance.
[19:51.320 -> 19:53.780] Can I just say a huge personal thank you
[19:53.780 -> 19:55.860] to the hundreds of thousands of you
[19:55.860 -> 19:59.080] who've downloaded high performance over the last four weeks.
[19:59.080 -> 20:00.700] And if you don't know already,
[20:00.700 -> 20:03.540] you can get your hands on the high performance app.
[20:03.540 -> 20:07.080] Just go to the
[20:04.480 -> 20:11.880] App Store search for high-performance and
[20:07.080 -> 20:13.920] use the code HPAPP that's HP app to get
[20:11.880 -> 20:15.520] into the app for exclusive content. I'm
[20:13.920 -> 20:17.440] getting so many people tell me about that
[20:15.520 -> 20:19.760] Jake. Are you? Yeah the benefits they're getting
[20:17.440 -> 20:22.680] from it the ability just to be able to
[20:19.760 -> 20:25.200] pause on certain moments rewind go and
[20:22.680 -> 20:25.460] focus on certain areas of interviews that they
[20:25.460 -> 20:30.340] can then share with other people. I think that anyone that wants to be able to
[20:30.340 -> 20:35.480] pass the word of high performance on, download the app now. Love it. Mate, I've
[20:35.480 -> 20:39.340] loved not just this short conversation but the entire month. I just, the richness
[20:39.340 -> 20:43.900] of these conversations, I love it man. Yeah, it's a real privilege. I just think
[20:43.900 -> 20:48.080] we're lucky enough to have this ringside seat next to some of the greatest
[20:48.080 -> 20:51.720] minds, the greatest thinkers and greatest achievers out there in the world.
[20:51.720 -> 20:57.320] And to be able to distill their learnings and lessons for so many people is a real privilege
[20:57.320 -> 20:59.520] and it's not one we ever take for granted.
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