Lessons from the month with Danny Drinkwater, Sarina Wiegman, Matt Fitzpatrick, Alex Albon and Shane Parrish

Reflecting on the guests they’ve spoken to in the month of November, Jake and Damian discuss the greatest learnings from each guest and how they can be applied to our everyday lives.

Listening back to the conversation they had with Danny Drinkwater, they dive into the biggest lesson he was taught during his career, including those by Sir Alex Ferguson. Author and blogger Shane Parrish was another impactful guest in November; Jake shares with Damian how the conversation with Shane has been impacting every day of his life since, specifically in terms of where he spends his time.

Jake and Damian also spoke to Matt Fitzpatrick about his strict method of practise and play. Matt went on to share the story of a text message he received from his personal hero, basketball player Michael Jordan.

At the beginning of November, Jake and Damian hosted an exclusive live event with Sarina Wiegman to celebrate the launch of her book. They think back to this special night and listen to the answer Sarina gave to an audience question.

The final guest of the month was Alex Albon, a conversation that took place in two halves, from discussing the most difficult moments of his career to how his life has transformed in the last few years.

Every month lessons offered by the guest on this podcast are utilised by Jake and Damian in their own lives, including leading with intention, knowing how to spend your time and respecting your teammates.

Listen to the episodes mentioned:

Danny Drinkwater: https://pod.fo/e/1fcb1b

Ole Gunnar Solskjær: https://pod.fo/e/21718

Shane Parrish: https://pod.fo/e/1ff000

Matt Fitzpatrick: https://pod.fo/e/2038f9

Alex Albon: https://pod.fo/e/205b4f

Sarina Wiegman: https://pod.fo/e/2013d6

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## High Performance: Reflections on November's Guests

### Introduction

- Jake Humphrey and Damian Hughes reflect on the lessons learned from November's podcast guests.
- They discuss how these lessons can be applied to everyday life.

### Danny Drinkwater

- Danny Drinkwater shared his experience of being taught the importance of respecting everyone, regardless of their job or status, by Sir Alex Ferguson at Manchester United.
- This lesson is a reminder to treat everyone with courtesy and respect, even if they are not in a position of power.

### Shane Parrish

- Shane Parrish emphasized the importance of prioritizing and focusing on a few key tasks rather than spreading oneself too thin.
- This lesson has helped Jake and Damian to change their approach to time management and prioritize the most important things in their lives.

### Matt Fitzpatrick

- Matt Fitzpatrick shared his practice method of treating every shot with the same intensity and focus.
- This lesson highlights the importance of intention and focus in all aspects of life, not just in sports.

### Sarina Wiegman

- Sarina Wiegman, the manager of the England women's national football team, discussed the importance of leading with intention and purpose.
- This lesson is a reminder to be clear about one's goals and to lead by example.

### Alex Albon

- Alex Albon shared his experience of being dropped from the Red Bull Formula One team and how he worked his way back to become a driver for Williams.
- This lesson highlights the importance of resilience and perseverance in the face of setbacks.

### Conclusion

- Jake and Damian emphasize the importance of utilizing the lessons learned from their guests in their own lives.
- They encourage listeners to apply these lessons to their own lives to improve their performance and well-being.

In this podcast episode, Jake Humphrey and Damian Hughes reflect on the impactful conversations they had with various guests throughout the month of November, extracting valuable lessons that can be applied to everyday life.

Key Learnings from Guest Conversations:

Danny Drinkwater:
- Emphasizing the importance of being coachable and receptive to feedback, as demonstrated by Sir Alex Ferguson's coaching style.
- Recognizing the value of taking ownership of mistakes and learning from them.

Shane Parrish:
- Understanding the significance of time management and focusing on activities that truly matter.
- Embracing vulnerability and acknowledging that it can be a source of strength.

Matt Fitzpatrick:
- Appreciating the role of routine and discipline in achieving success, as exemplified by Matt's strict practice and play methods.
- Recognizing the power of visualization and setting clear goals.

Sarina Wiegman:
- Inspiring young women in sports by demonstrating the transformative impact of leadership and determination.
- Encouraging individuals to pursue their passions and overcome obstacles with resilience.

Alex Albon:
- Overcoming adversity and embracing challenges, as seen in Alex's journey through difficult moments in his career.
- Acknowledging the importance of personal growth and continuous improvement.

Overall Message:
The podcast highlights the significance of embracing vulnerability, leading with intention, managing time wisely, and respecting teammates. These lessons, derived from the experiences and insights of esteemed guests, offer valuable guidance for personal and professional development.

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[00:59.360 -> 01:03.200] Hi there, welcome along to another episode of the High Performance Podcast
[01:03.200 -> 01:05.400] with Jake Humphrey and Damian Hughes.
[01:05.400 -> 01:10.400] So this is where we reflect on the last month and we just talk about the lessons that we've learned over the last few weeks.
[01:10.400 -> 01:15.400] It's been another really interesting month, Damian, where the diversity of the guests really stands out.
[01:15.400 -> 01:30.000] I love recording this because it's often our moment just to put our foot on the ball and stop and look back over the lessons that we've been privileged enough to listen to. a gweld yn ôl ar y dysgu rydyn ni wedi bod yn ddigon cyfrifol i'w clywed. Rwy'n credu bod y gyngor cyntaf y mlynedd yn rhywun sy'n rhoi'r pwll ar y ball yn gyfansoddiadol, Danny Drinkwater.
[01:30.000 -> 01:36.000] Rwy'n teimlo'n cyfrifol iawn bod yn gweld yn ôl ein platfform i ddewis ei gyrfa o
[01:36.000 -> 01:41.000] gyrfa gwych o ddechrau ym Mhanchester United,
[01:41.000 -> 01:46.000] a chyflwyno'r cymorth o 5,000 i 1 oed o gynnal y Lleol Prifysgol gyda Leicester City cyn i'n mynd ar yr hyn rydyn ni'n ei wneud, yn mynd ar ein ambysiyniau, yn dal i gael ein bywydau'n ffordd rydyn ni'n eu hofal.
[01:46.000 -> 01:48.000] Ac rydyn ni'n gweithio'n fawr iawn
[01:48.000 -> 01:50.000] i'r cyfansoddau a'r cyfansoddau
[01:50.000 -> 01:52.000] a'r cyfansoddau a'r cyfansoddau
[01:52.000 -> 01:54.000] a'r cyfansoddau
[01:54.000 -> 01:56.000] a'r cyfansoddau
[01:56.000 -> 01:58.000] a'r cyfansoddau
[01:58.000 -> 02:00.000] a'r cyfansoddau
[02:00.000 -> 02:02.000] a'r cyfansoddau
[02:02.000 -> 02:04.000] a'r cyfansoddau
[02:04.000 -> 02:05.060] a'r cyfansoddau a'r cyfansoddau because we all need moments to say, are we going after what we want?
[02:05.060 -> 02:08.620] Is going after our ambitions still serving our life
[02:08.620 -> 02:09.780] in the way that we want it to be?
[02:09.780 -> 02:11.220] And in Danny's case, he said,
[02:11.220 -> 02:13.060] there's other things he wants to do at his age.
[02:13.060 -> 02:14.900] Yeah. And I've actually had numerous messages
[02:14.900 -> 02:16.700] from current Premier League footballers
[02:16.700 -> 02:18.620] and current Premier League managers telling me
[02:18.620 -> 02:20.820] that they found that episode really important
[02:20.820 -> 02:23.220] and really valuable for people who are still in the game.
[02:23.220 -> 02:30.080] And that perhaps in a place that Danny Drinkwater's in, where he admitted to us he didn't have the tools
[02:30.080 -> 02:33.720] to deal with the tough stuff. And it's a really good reminder for all of us that when someone
[02:33.720 -> 02:38.160] is successful and they do great things and they achieve wonderful moments in their lives,
[02:38.160 -> 02:41.120] that doesn't necessarily mean they can also deal with the bad stuff. You know, they've
[02:41.120 -> 02:48.240] been rewarded for success, they've been rewarded for talent, they've been rewarded for being in flow. When those things all fall away, what's
[02:48.240 -> 02:53.760] left? In Danny's case, it wasn't the tools to deal with the challenges he had in his
[02:53.760 -> 02:57.560] life. But actually, we've picked a clip from right at the very start of his
[02:57.560 -> 03:01.600] career because, well, you explain this because you're the Man United fan and
[03:01.600 -> 03:07.040] you chose this clip, didn't you? Yeah, I did because as as a Manchester United fan we're being served some pretty thin gruel at the
[03:07.040 -> 03:11.400] minute so the opportunity to wallow in the nostalgia of the feast that Alex
[03:11.400 -> 03:16.040] Ferguson served up for us was welcome but more importantly it allows us to
[03:16.040 -> 03:19.720] understand a little bit of the power of Ferguson's culture at Manchester United
[03:19.720 -> 03:23.920] where everyone regardless of their job regardless of their status was respected
[03:23.920 -> 03:28.240] let's listen to Danny explain how he learned that lesson
[03:28.240 -> 03:33.560] and what about Ferguson would like he's famous for his man management is there
[03:33.560 -> 03:37.720] any sort of examples you can give of his? I had a few dealings with Sir Alex to be
[03:37.720 -> 03:42.760] honest he was I mean he was a few men so for some reason I always got proper
[03:42.760 -> 03:49.120] close with like the chefs at the clubs and I you know I love my food and I love cooking and all that so just naturally
[03:49.120 -> 03:54.320] and I remember I was waiting for this spaghetti bolognese what Mike the chef
[03:54.320 -> 03:57.920] at United at the time used to do fresh I was like bloody hell Mike any chance
[03:57.920 -> 04:03.760] next minute, running back in the end I was like what the... and he's like you dare speak to him like that again?
[04:03.760 -> 04:06.640] I was like ooooh. Danny Drinkwater there when you dare speak to him like that again? I was like, ooh.
[04:08.760 -> 04:11.240] Danny Drinkwater there when he joined us on high performance. I'm not sure how I feel about that clip, you know?
[04:11.240 -> 04:13.720] Because I think that if it was a school teacher
[04:13.720 -> 04:15.160] clipping someone around the back of their head,
[04:15.160 -> 04:16.100] I'd have a problem with it.
[04:16.100 -> 04:18.920] I just think that ain't happening in football in 2023.
[04:18.920 -> 04:19.840] No, I agree.
[04:19.840 -> 04:22.760] I think there's a lot of things that I often encourage
[04:22.760 -> 04:25.280] people to say, don't compare football or elite sport there's a lot of things that I often
[04:22.280 -> 04:29.600] encourage people to say don't compare
[04:25.280 -> 04:31.520] football or elite sport to the world
[04:29.600 -> 04:35.320] outside of that. The certain behaviors,
[04:31.520 -> 04:38.040] conduct that is unacceptable outside of that
[04:35.320 -> 04:40.400] world, maybe is less frowned upon
[04:38.040 -> 04:42.680] within that context. So I think there is
[04:40.400 -> 04:44.480] some context to it but I think the point
[04:42.680 -> 04:46.960] I'd encourage people to take away from
[04:44.480 -> 04:52.720] it is that idea of treating everybody Dwi'n credu bod yna rhyw fath o gynhyrch arno, ond rwy'n credu bod y pwynt rydw i'n gofyn i bobl ddod allan o hynny yw'r syniad o ddysgu pawb gyda chyfrif, yn hytrach na'n meddwl bod nhw ddim yn gwneud yr swydd rydw i'n ei wneud,
[04:52.720 -> 04:59.440] felly dydw i ddim angen i mi sgrifio at nhw gyda'r un lefel o ddysgresi a chyfathrebu rydw i'n ei wneud i'r cymdeithas.
[04:59.440 -> 05:03.200] A rwy'n credu bod hynny'n rhaid i Ferguson ddod o'r ffordd gwych. Rwy'n cofio,
[05:07.200 -> 05:11.600] was what Ferguson's great trick was. I remember our late Solskjaer telling us about how Danny Welbeck was identified as being an elite talent because he was a kid that used to go and collect
[05:11.600 -> 05:15.800] the footballs after shooting practice and he couldn't get the ones furthest away. It
[05:15.800 -> 05:20.960] was the small behaviours that they felt gave them a clue as to the wider character of the
[05:20.960 -> 05:29.600] individual and what Ferguson was doing there was teaching Danny Drinkwater treat everybody with respect and courtesy. And now we go from a Premier
[05:29.600 -> 05:35.760] League winning footballer to a Canadian writer, thinker, blogger, podcaster Shane
[05:35.760 -> 05:39.300] Parrish who of course created the Farnham Street blog which is the world's
[05:39.300 -> 05:43.400] most popular and most read blog when it comes to thinking clearly. Thousands of
[05:43.400 -> 05:47.640] you have listened to this on the High Performance Podcast, thousands more have watched this on YouTube so far because
[05:47.640 -> 05:53.440] it has real, genuine, tangible takeaways, lessons, and learnings for how we can live
[05:53.440 -> 05:59.120] differently. And I don't know about you, but I absolutely do feel like I'm at times trudging
[05:59.120 -> 06:03.600] through treacle. I feel like I'm overworked. I feel like I'm putting the wrong priorities
[06:03.600 -> 06:05.160] at the centre of my life.
[06:05.160 -> 06:06.960] And the problem for me is this has been going on
[06:06.960 -> 06:09.920] for months and months and months, if not years.
[06:09.920 -> 06:11.200] Therefore, I'm not solving it.
[06:11.200 -> 06:13.960] And actually, Shane changed things for me
[06:13.960 -> 06:15.880] to a point where I'm now living differently.
[06:15.880 -> 06:17.480] I'll explain more in a minute,
[06:17.480 -> 06:20.800] but first, here he is talking about the power
[06:20.800 -> 06:22.440] of getting your priorities right.
[06:24.920 -> 06:29.160] If you have 10 blocks of time a day and you spread them over 10 projects, that's one block
[06:29.160 -> 06:31.480] of time a day per project.
[06:31.480 -> 06:33.440] You're not going to move very fast.
[06:33.440 -> 06:34.720] I mean, you're going to feel busy.
[06:34.720 -> 06:38.840] There's lots of switching costs associated with that, but you're not going to get anywhere.
[06:38.840 -> 06:44.140] And so what you really have to do in this case, and I'm an advocate of this, and there's
[06:44.140 -> 06:45.520] no judgment for how other
[06:45.520 -> 06:47.880] people choose to allocate their time.
[06:47.880 -> 06:52.040] I think you need to narrow things down to two or three priorities.
[06:52.040 -> 06:56.560] These are my focus and if building a relationship and maintaining that relationship with my
[06:56.560 -> 07:00.080] partner matters to me, I should be able to see that in your calendar.
[07:00.080 -> 07:03.520] So don't tell me your priorities, show me your calendar.
[07:03.520 -> 07:06.480] Because I think the answer is I just have to work harder.
[07:06.480 -> 07:07.580] I have to get up earlier.
[07:07.580 -> 07:09.000] I have to go to bed later.
[07:09.000 -> 07:09.840] Do you know what I mean?
[07:09.840 -> 07:11.620] Because you think that if you can pack more into a day,
[07:11.620 -> 07:12.460] you can get more done,
[07:12.460 -> 07:14.160] therefore you can please more people.
[07:14.160 -> 07:16.840] So I learned this working at the intelligence agency, right?
[07:16.840 -> 07:17.760] This is what I thought.
[07:17.760 -> 07:20.560] I could take on more projects, I could do more things.
[07:20.560 -> 07:24.160] Just for context, I started working at a three letter agency,
[07:24.160 -> 07:26.760] the Canadian equivalent of GCHQ, how's that?
[07:26.760 -> 07:28.260] So I started working for them two weeks
[07:28.260 -> 07:29.320] before September 11th.
[07:29.320 -> 07:32.040] September 11th happens, the world changes.
[07:32.040 -> 07:34.840] I basically work with an incredible group
[07:34.840 -> 07:36.040] of talented people.
[07:36.040 -> 07:38.440] I don't leave the building almost for like seven years.
[07:38.440 -> 07:40.780] And I say that a bit hyperbolically,
[07:40.780 -> 07:42.840] but it wasn't far from the truth either.
[07:42.840 -> 07:47.140] And so what was happening is I was sacrificing my health,
[07:47.140 -> 07:49.700] I was sacrificing my sleep, I was being less productive,
[07:49.700 -> 07:52.540] I was being, you know, not making the best decisions
[07:52.540 -> 07:56.460] I could be making, all because I wanted to do my best.
[07:56.460 -> 07:58.220] And that was the story I was telling myself.
[07:58.220 -> 08:01.180] And what I didn't realize, and it took me almost
[08:01.180 -> 08:03.580] falling over basically with exhaustion,
[08:03.580 -> 08:05.720] the moment of realization for me was
[08:05.720 -> 08:09.080] I finally went on a vacation, I think it was 2007,
[08:09.080 -> 08:12.760] and I went to Italy and I slept for three weeks.
[08:12.760 -> 08:16.360] I barely left my hotel room, I slept 16 hours a day.
[08:16.360 -> 08:18.200] And I was so exhausted and so tired.
[08:18.200 -> 08:19.740] And I was like, what am I doing to myself?
[08:19.740 -> 08:22.100] Like this isn't, what do I really care about?
[08:22.100 -> 08:23.360] What do I really want to accomplish?
[08:23.360 -> 08:29.140] How do I allocate my time to those things? So it's actually counterintuitive, but doing less leads to
[08:29.140 -> 08:32.300] doing more.
[08:32.300 -> 08:35.640] So we've actually both changed something really fundamental, haven't we, since we had that
[08:35.640 -> 08:37.880] conversation with Shane Parrish. Do you want to go first?
[08:37.880 -> 08:44.160] I reflected on what Shane had said about being distracted. If you, you know, if you're focusing
[08:44.160 -> 08:47.000] on 10 things, you're doing 10 things badly in effect. So one of the things that was my Ac fel y dywedodd Shane am fod yn ymdrech, os ydych yn sefydlu ar 10 pethau, rydych yn gwneud 10 pethau'n ddifrifol yn effeithiol.
[08:47.000 -> 08:57.000] Felly un o'r pethau a oedd fy nhwth ymdrech oedd fy ffôn. Rydw i wedi cael fy nhwth e-bwriadau ar y ffôn, rydw i wedi cael gysylltiadau gwahanol i lle y gall pobl ymddangos i mi.
[08:57.000 -> 09:06.240] Felly rydw i wedi gwneud y penderfyniad i gael ffôn ddau sydd ddim yn e-bwriadu arno, sydd danddi ddim apseiliadau, ond mae'n cael camera ar gyfer
[09:06.240 -> 09:11.280] pan dwi'n allan gyda fy nifer a fy myfyrwyr, mae gen i ffôn ffôn lle
[09:11.280 -> 09:15.440] fy mam a fy brwyr a fy sŵn yn gallu cael cymryd ymlaen gyda mi, ond y tu allan yna, mae'n
[09:15.440 -> 09:19.840] unig peth rydw i'n ei ddweud ar gyfer fy amser amser, felly dydw i ddim yn cael fy
[09:19.840 -> 09:28.280] ymddangos o ddweud e-mails neu yn ymdrechu ag bethau a oedd yn bwysig, ond nid yn ymdrech fel beth. Mae'n gallu ymdrechu yn ystod y cyfnod y gallwn i chi ymdrechu yn ystod y cyfnod y gallwn i chi ymdrechu yn ystod y cyfnod y gallwn i chi ymdrechu yn ystod y cyfnod y gallwn i chi ymdrechu yn ystod y cyfnod y gallwn i chi ymdrechu yn ystod y cyfnod y gallwn i chi ymdrechu yn ystod y cyfnod y gallwn i chi ymdrechu yn ystod y cyfnod y gallwn i chi ymdrechu yn y cyfnod y gallwn i chi ymdrechu yn y cyfnod y gallwn i chi ymdrechu yn y cyfnod y gallwn i chi ymdrechu yn y cyfnod y gallwn i chi ymdrechu yn y cyfnod y gallwn i distracted of checking emails or responding to things that might be important but are not as urgent as well. Being able to respond immediately can
[09:28.280 -> 09:31.760] often convince you of. It's about that idea of there are things that are
[09:31.760 -> 09:35.080] important in your life like hanging out with your kids and your wife Geraldine.
[09:35.080 -> 09:39.080] There are also urgent things in your life, replying to that email, confirming
[09:39.080 -> 09:42.320] something and all too often as was explained to us in our conversation the
[09:42.320 -> 09:47.520] urgent trumps the important. So you actually never do the important stuff of connecting with people and taking
[09:47.520 -> 09:49.440] time out because the urgent stuff always gets in the way.
[09:49.440 -> 09:50.960] Yeah. So what's your change?
[09:50.960 -> 09:54.920] So mine was around the diary. I mean, the moment when Shane Parish said, show me your
[09:54.920 -> 10:01.520] diary and I will tell you your priorities, like my blood ran cold. I was like, shit.
[10:01.520 -> 10:07.440] So my only priorities must be work. The train I'm getting, the person I'm interviewing,
[10:07.440 -> 10:09.400] the meetings that I'm having.
[10:09.400 -> 10:10.860] So anyway, he says, show me your diary
[10:10.860 -> 10:12.080] and I'll tell you your priorities,
[10:12.080 -> 10:15.320] that I realized that actually my wife and my kids
[10:15.320 -> 10:18.480] and my leisure time and my recovery time
[10:18.480 -> 10:21.360] and my mindfulness and my creativity time,
[10:21.360 -> 10:25.600] I always think to myself, why do I never have time to sit and think
[10:25.600 -> 10:30.920] creatively about the future of high performance or the future of the whisper group or, you
[10:30.920 -> 10:35.440] know, coral eyewear or whatever? And it's because I don't put it in my diary. Therefore,
[10:35.440 -> 10:40.460] I assume I'll find that time by default and I never do. And then what's the time I spend
[10:40.460 -> 10:43.640] with my wife and kids at the end of the day when I'm knackered? And what am I doing in
[10:43.640 -> 10:47.980] that time? I'm already thinking about tomorrow and sending a few emails or what's happening or texting people
[10:48.520 -> 10:52.640] He has totally changed the way that I operate with the diary on my phone, and I'm really grateful
[10:52.840 -> 10:56.500] I'm really glad about that because I know I've said needed me well
[10:56.500 -> 11:00.760] I know I've said it to you before but like when we first started working together and then people that go
[11:00.760 -> 11:05.520] So what's Jake like then and the answer I always used to give was reminding me of a there's a book called ac yna bobl sy'n mynd, felly beth yw Jake yn ymwneud â hyn? Ac y cyfrifiad yr oeddwn i'n mynd i roi yn ymwybodol i mi o,
[11:05.520 -> 11:06.360] mae yna llyfr yma,
[11:06.360 -> 11:08.040] beth dydyn nhw ddim yn ymwybodol i chi yng Nghaerfyrdd,
[11:08.040 -> 11:09.600] ac mae'n ymwneud â'r ysgrifennodau
[11:09.600 -> 11:12.080] rydych chi'n dysgu o gwblhau pobl,
[11:12.080 -> 11:14.120] fel bod yna ddewis yn y llyfr
[11:14.120 -> 11:14.960] am ddweud, dweud, dweud, dweud,
[11:14.960 -> 11:16.000] gweld pobl chwarae golf,
[11:16.000 -> 11:16.800] ac yna byddwch chi'n gweld
[11:16.800 -> 11:17.920] beth ffyrdd o ffynion y maen nhw,
[11:17.920 -> 11:18.760] ydyn nhw'n gwneud gwirionedd,
[11:18.760 -> 11:20.200] ydyn nhw'n cael eu hysbrydol
[11:20.200 -> 11:21.160] pan fyddant yn gwneud penderfyniadau,
[11:21.160 -> 11:23.200] ac ymgrysfa rydw i'n mynd i roi i chi
[11:23.200 -> 11:26.400] yw bod chi bob amser yn ymwneud â'i home, felly dweud y bydd teulu'n bwysig i chi, to them, they make mistakes and the example I always used to give for you is
[11:23.400 -> 11:28.480] that you're always at home, so you say
[11:26.400 -> 11:30.920] that family are important to you and then
[11:28.480 -> 11:33.080] you will always make time to get home
[11:30.920 -> 11:34.840] however hard it is, wherever you are. So
[11:33.080 -> 11:37.040] that told me something about how
[11:34.840 -> 11:38.520] authentic, but how family was, yeah, at the
[11:37.040 -> 11:40.360] center of your life. But the problem was
[11:38.520 -> 11:41.960] I was, you know, finishing work at 10 o'clock
[11:40.360 -> 11:43.200] in the evening in London, had to be
[11:41.960 -> 11:44.880] back in London at 10 a.m. the next
[11:43.200 -> 11:45.800] morning for a meeting and I'd go home.
[11:45.800 -> 11:49.800] Yes, but when I went home, I wasn't prioritizing the right things.
[11:49.800 -> 11:50.800] Do you know what I mean?
[11:50.800 -> 11:54.120] So I was doing that, but I was thinking, why is that not giving me the rewards I want?
[11:54.120 -> 11:57.520] Well, it's because I was still on my phone, I was still thinking about work and stuff.
[11:57.520 -> 12:02.640] So it's saying to myself, right, I'm going to get home and the next morning from half
[12:02.640 -> 12:05.400] six when the kids wake up till eight o'clock when they go to school, my phone is locked away. home and the next morning from half six
[12:02.880 -> 12:07.520] when the kids wake up till eight o'clock
[12:05.400 -> 12:08.960] when they go to school my phone is
[12:07.520 -> 12:11.480] locked away you know that's now in the
[12:08.960 -> 12:12.800] diary no phone half six to eight o'clock so
[12:11.480 -> 12:15.360] you're fully present with your kids so
[12:12.800 -> 12:17.680] it's giving the time is one thing but
[12:15.360 -> 12:18.840] getting the process wrong when you've
[12:17.680 -> 12:20.560] got that time is something totally
[12:18.840 -> 12:22.640] different and that's what's changed. I love
[12:20.560 -> 12:24.200] that but part of the reason I love it as
[12:22.640 -> 12:27.640] well is because I think it's important
[12:24.200 -> 12:32.800] for anyone that is kind enough to invite high performance into their life that we're not sat here claiming that we've got the answers
[12:32.880 -> 12:36.280] Like we come with the mindset of the beginner the student
[12:36.440 -> 12:41.020] The one that wants to learn as much as anybody else and I think it's a testimony to Shane
[12:41.080 -> 12:45.080] That he prompted both of us to do something different not just
[12:45.080 -> 12:48.760] to talk a different game but to actually start behaving in a different way.
[12:48.760 -> 12:51.240] And I think it's a good thing to remind people I think it's easy when you host
[12:51.240 -> 12:54.840] something called high-performance and you have these incredible conversations
[12:54.840 -> 13:01.120] with these remarkable people you can almost without meaning to put across
[13:01.120 -> 13:04.880] this image or this idea or this sense that you've got it you've got it nailed
[13:04.880 -> 13:05.520] like you
[13:05.520 -> 13:08.960] and me are perfect, so now that we're perfect, let's go and find out what other people are
[13:08.960 -> 13:13.840] up to. It's the total opposite. In so many ways, this is such a selfish thing to do,
[13:13.840 -> 13:18.480] isn't it? Because we are learning at the same rate as the listeners. We're getting things
[13:18.480 -> 13:23.200] wrong all the time. We both feel like failures. We both feel like we've got constant missteps
[13:23.200 -> 13:27.600] in our days. So these conversations are great because they help us to correct those at the same
[13:27.600 -> 13:32.600] time as they help the audience. Yeah, Phil Jackson, the old American
[13:32.600 -> 13:37.520] basketball coach, often used to encourage his players to come with the mindset of
[13:37.520 -> 13:41.760] a beginner, that assume that you know nothing and that way you're open to
[13:41.760 -> 13:46.600] everything and every experience and I think that's the mindset that we both try and bring to this.
[13:46.600 -> 13:49.400] And hopefully for listeners as well,
[13:49.400 -> 13:53.400] that just listening to this with the mindset of somebody that knows nothing,
[13:53.400 -> 13:54.600] you can learn everything.
[13:54.600 -> 13:57.100] You know what, Damon? It's almost like we've planned this
[13:57.100 -> 13:59.600] because you mentioning Phil Jackson there
[13:59.600 -> 14:03.300] actually leads us really nicely into a mention on the podcast this week
[14:03.300 -> 14:08.820] of a player who Phil Jackson coached. Yes so we were really fortunate to go to Coworth Park
[14:08.820 -> 14:13.980] the week of the BMW tournament at Wentworth to interview Matt Fitzpatrick
[14:13.980 -> 14:19.560] the US Open winner, lad from Sheffield that listens to the podcast, wanted to
[14:19.560 -> 14:24.660] come on and tell us about his journey of chronicling every note, every shot he's
[14:24.660 -> 14:25.280] ever taken
[14:25.280 -> 14:29.480] until he arrived at the summit of the sport and then when he arrived there he
[14:29.480 -> 14:35.480] got a unexpected text from a sporting superstar. Let's listen to him explain
[14:35.480 -> 14:37.920] who it was.
[14:37.920 -> 14:41.840] But you also got a text message didn't you after winning the Open from
[14:41.840 -> 14:45.960] probably one of the greatest sportsmen of all time?
[14:45.960 -> 14:49.960] Would you tell us who that was but equally did you get the chance to follow up and ask
[14:49.960 -> 14:52.400] them how they'd sustained success?
[14:52.400 -> 14:57.020] Yeah, the text was from Michael Jordan which made me laugh because he actually texted me
[14:57.020 -> 15:02.400] again after I won earlier this year and it was a different number and I replied, oh,
[15:02.400 -> 15:04.320] thank you very much, sorry who's this?
[15:04.320 -> 15:06.960] And he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, he's like, oh, sorry, it's MJ.
[15:06.960 -> 15:10.400] I was like, oh my God, I feel so embarrassed.
[15:10.400 -> 15:16.440] I've not spent a lot of time with him, but I'm a member of his club in Florida and the
[15:16.440 -> 15:22.520] guy that coaches him a little bit, he's learned a lot off Michael and he shared some of that
[15:22.520 -> 15:23.520] with me.
[15:23.520 -> 15:30.640] I've not, like I say, I've not spent a lot of time with him but his big thing was practicing with intensity. It's like every
[15:30.640 -> 15:37.160] shot matters and that's one thing that we've tried to add in to practice away from tournaments.
[15:37.160 -> 15:42.560] It's hard rap tournaments because you've only really got the range and where I'm a member
[15:42.560 -> 15:46.120] there's loads of different, you know, you can hit a shot here and then walk over there
[15:46.120 -> 15:48.240] and hit a shot to a different green,
[15:48.240 -> 15:52.440] and it just, we can create the intensity by having it,
[15:52.440 -> 15:54.480] if you don't complete it, start again.
[15:54.480 -> 15:55.800] If you don't complete it, start again.
[15:55.800 -> 15:58.700] And it's things like that that I think
[15:58.700 -> 16:01.680] was so big for him, and that's what, you know,
[16:01.680 -> 16:05.120] I've been told by the the coach at the Grove Darren
[16:05.920 -> 16:08.240] Darren May and and I think that is a
[16:09.120 -> 16:13.720] fantastic lesson in that you know every shot has an intention and it's intense and there's a
[16:14.120 -> 16:15.840] You know there's a consequence for it
[16:15.840 -> 16:20.060] And I think it's it's hard to have that in golf because it's easy to just drag another ball
[16:20.060 -> 16:24.280] I'll try again, but you know if you've only got five shots right you got five shots
[16:25.060 -> 16:28.340] You need to hit it here the first one if you don't
[16:29.120 -> 16:34.480] You're done, you know, and it's having those things like a task that has a consequence
[16:34.480 -> 16:38.880] It just I feel like you then have that intensity and that's more like on on the golf course
[16:41.000 -> 16:45.280] I think that's such a valuable example from that Fitzpatrick because we can all do that
[16:45.280 -> 16:50.080] we can all carry more intention into the everyday things that we're doing that make a real difference
[16:50.200 -> 16:50.700] Yeah
[16:50.700 -> 16:57.960] Do you remember Phil Neville telling us about my hero Eric Cantona when he said that what distinguished him was the endless repetition of simplicity
[16:58.500 -> 17:03.580] So he would just go and pass a ball time and time again, but he was focused on making that pass perfect
[17:03.960 -> 17:08.400] Michael Jordan talking about making every shot you take count and I think
[17:08.400 -> 17:13.120] whatever it is that we do in life asking the question of what is my intention of
[17:13.120 -> 17:18.400] this, forces us to ignore distractions and make sure that whatever we're doing
[17:18.400 -> 17:21.760] is the best that we can. Because I think we often ask the wrong questions you
[17:21.760 -> 17:24.800] know how long were you in the gym today doesn't matter because you could have
[17:24.800 -> 17:27.440] done three hours in the gym, but unless your intention
[17:27.440 -> 17:29.840] is right, it's a waste of three hours.
[17:29.840 -> 17:35.440] You're much better to have a really well intentioned 45 minutes of deep work, maximum effort work
[17:35.440 -> 17:38.160] than you are to have three hours of just walking around and whatever.
[17:38.160 -> 17:41.080] And it's the same with your relationships with people.
[17:41.080 -> 17:49.920] You know, is there a real deep connection that time that you spend together? We're so obsessed with time, but we're not obsessed with the intention in that time.
[17:49.920 -> 17:54.640] So I think really ask yourself, am I going really deep at all these key moments in my life,
[17:54.640 -> 18:02.080] but also having the same process to your relaxation time, you know, like relax with intention,
[18:02.080 -> 18:05.800] take a break with intention, go on holiday with intention. So really like,
[18:05.800 -> 18:07.600] don't just kind of go on holiday and be on your phone
[18:07.600 -> 18:09.400] and answer emails for work.
[18:09.400 -> 18:11.000] Go deep into the relaxation.
[18:11.000 -> 18:12.800] It's really vital and an important point.
[18:12.800 -> 18:13.600] Yeah, definitely.
[18:13.600 -> 18:17.200] And I think Matt was a great example of somebody
[18:17.200 -> 18:19.400] that has done that since the age of 15.
[18:19.400 -> 18:21.600] As we said at the start,
[18:21.600 -> 18:23.600] as a young lad growing up in Sheffield,
[18:23.600 -> 18:29.000] every shot he's played is with the intention of doing the best that he can in that moment and that is a
[18:29.000 -> 18:33.960] method that's allowed him to scale the heights as he did with the European team
[18:33.960 -> 18:38.080] at the Ryder Cup in Rome earlier this year. And I love it, don't you love it when we
[18:38.080 -> 18:41.040] talk to an elite individual and they're like I love your podcast I listen every
[18:41.040 -> 18:48.220] week you're thinking ah. Yeah it feels it feels validating but validating from the point of view of somebody that's at the sharp
[18:48.220 -> 18:53.880] end and still willing to be open to pick up ideas and they're looking outside of
[18:53.880 -> 18:58.760] their world for tips and techniques that can help them sustain their own version
[18:58.760 -> 19:02.640] of high performance we also got the chance to sit down not once but twice
[19:02.640 -> 19:06.480] with Alex Albon the Formula One driver for Williams, didn't we?
[19:06.480 -> 19:11.680] Yeah, I was really surprised by this, that, again, I don't follow the sport closely, but
[19:11.680 -> 19:18.960] I thought these drivers would be super confident, supremely articulate, just almost like robots,
[19:18.960 -> 19:23.920] as Fernando Alonso described how he drove a car, and yet, to meet somebody that was
[19:23.920 -> 19:30.400] the opposite of that, really self-effacing, really humble and happy to explain his own vulnerabilities
[19:30.400 -> 19:34.840] and failings made it a really refreshing couple of conversations.
[19:34.840 -> 19:39.120] Now if you're wondering why we had a couple of conversations, why we sat down twice with
[19:39.120 -> 19:44.120] Alex Albon, well it's because we recorded a conversation at the Williams factory and
[19:44.120 -> 19:49.480] to our great surprise we then got a message from Alex's team saying, you know what, he, he enjoyed
[19:49.480 -> 19:53.320] that so much. He wants to make this the ultimate conversation about what life is actually like
[19:53.320 -> 19:57.600] in Formula One. And he's told you about his tough times. He's told you about the hard
[19:57.600 -> 20:06.560] stuff being the second driver at Red Bull, losing his seat, fighting his way back in. He'd also really like to explain to you now
[20:06.560 -> 20:13.120] how he feels. And it's so rare to get 10, 15, 20 minutes with a top level Formula One
[20:13.120 -> 20:17.080] driver to sit down for a couple of hours and then a couple of weeks later for another hour
[20:17.080 -> 20:22.800] or so was quite something. But actually I'm really glad we did it because to tell half
[20:22.800 -> 20:25.880] the story is to tell none of the story at all. Here he is
[20:28.320 -> 20:32.880] They gave me to the last race to try and show my worth so for that I
[20:33.520 -> 20:39.640] Generally do believe they wanted the best for me, but it just doesn't it didn't work out and you know, obviously
[20:40.480 -> 20:43.200] Sergio is gonna is gonna take your place and and
[20:43.920 -> 20:46.160] We'll keep you as a simulated driver if you if you accept Sergio is gonna take your place and
[20:43.400 -> 20:49.360] we'll keep you as a simulated driver if
[20:46.160 -> 20:52.360] you accept and we'll try to find
[20:49.360 -> 20:53.920] you a place for the year after. I remember
[20:52.360 -> 20:56.720] the walk back to my car, I remember
[20:53.920 -> 20:59.760] obviously had a few moments by
[20:56.720 -> 21:01.600] myself afterwards. It was tough but
[20:59.760 -> 21:03.840] I thought I would have felt the relief
[21:01.600 -> 21:05.040] but all I wanted was to get back again.
[21:05.040 -> 21:09.480] I think it's that kind of psychotic kind of just need.
[21:09.480 -> 21:14.960] And so people often say, you know, how long did it take you to get back into it?
[21:14.960 -> 21:22.080] But within a week, I was back in the simulator again, preparing their car for next year,
[21:22.080 -> 21:23.080] the year that I wasn't going to be in.
[21:23.080 -> 21:25.840] So it doesn't take too much.
[21:26.800 -> 21:29.680] How's that then? Because you don't get into Formula One without an ego, right?
[21:29.680 -> 21:31.760] You don't. It just isn't possible.
[21:31.760 -> 21:32.000] Yes.
[21:32.560 -> 21:37.360] What was your ego saying to you when you're basically making the car faster for
[21:37.360 -> 21:41.120] the two race drivers working hard on the scene, doing everything behind the scenes?
[21:41.120 -> 21:47.080] It was the weirdest
[21:43.440 -> 21:49.800] kind of yin and yang, like everything
[21:47.080 -> 21:53.000] pulling away from each other because I
[21:49.800 -> 21:56.600] knew the best thing I can do for myself
[21:53.000 -> 21:59.000] is to do the best job for the guys.
[21:56.600 -> 22:02.440] I have to commit myself more than I ever
[21:59.000 -> 22:05.480] have done before and I've got to raise my
[22:02.440 -> 22:06.480] stock. I've got to raise my stock. I've got
[22:03.880 -> 22:08.200] to show not just the team Red Bull but I've
[22:06.480 -> 22:11.840] got to show every other team on the
[22:08.200 -> 22:13.760] paddock that I'm a valuable asset to this
[22:11.840 -> 22:16.080] team. The best job I could do is to make
[22:13.760 -> 22:18.120] this car as quick as it can go. There
[22:16.080 -> 22:20.440] were some issues on the gear I
[22:18.120 -> 22:22.960] drove. This feeling that I had about the
[22:20.440 -> 22:25.720] car, they were genuine. It wasn't me just
[22:22.960 -> 22:25.700] saying it but we fixed a lot of these
[22:25.700 -> 22:30.840] issues and I remember in the first test, you know, when Checo and Max were driving the
[22:30.840 -> 22:37.280] car, it was in Bahrain and Max, who obviously drove, the year I drove with him's car, he
[22:37.280 -> 22:45.700] said, the car's transformed, it's so stable now. And this is exactly what I needed in the car, you know, that's what I wanted in the car.
[22:45.700 -> 22:48.840] And I thought to myself, oh God, if only.
[22:51.040 -> 22:53.640] It's the ultimate reminder, Damien,
[22:53.640 -> 22:55.120] that the stuff that is hard for us,
[22:55.120 -> 22:56.100] isn't always bad for us.
[22:56.100 -> 22:59.480] Alex Angbun is not where he is today as an F1 driver
[22:59.480 -> 23:01.380] without that tough period at Red Bull.
[23:01.380 -> 23:03.280] Yeah, and even further back, you know,
[23:03.280 -> 23:05.280] he spoke about some of his own personal challenges o'r period ar Red Bull. Ie, ac efallai ymlaen, rydyn ni'n siarad am rai o'r heriau personol
[23:05.280 -> 23:06.880] sydd ganddyn nhw gyda'r teulu
[23:06.880 -> 23:09.760] a'r unigol, hefyd.
[23:09.760 -> 23:11.360] Ond yr hyn rydw i'n hoffi oedd,
[23:11.360 -> 23:13.360] y peth a oedd yn ymddangos oedd
[23:13.360 -> 23:14.960] pan ddecidodd
[23:14.960 -> 23:16.480] ei fod yn mynd i gael y cyfathrebu
[23:16.480 -> 23:18.480] gyda'r pwyllgorion tîm
[23:18.480 -> 23:20.160] a'i hygyrchu ar ei gydol o'r
[23:20.160 -> 23:21.600] ddau man i ddod yn ôl.
[23:21.600 -> 23:22.800] Doedd e ddim yn mynd i'w wneud trwy
[23:22.800 -> 23:24.320] ystyried y manwyr
[23:24.320 -> 23:27.400] neu'r agention sy'n eu cynrychioli. Roedd e'n mynd i edrych was the right man to come back. He wasn't going to do it through the medium of a manager or
[23:24.560 -> 23:30.120] agents representing him. He was going to
[23:27.400 -> 23:32.040] look them in the eye and explain that
[23:30.120 -> 23:34.240] he was a different person and I think
[23:32.040 -> 23:36.520] that speaks an awful lot about his
[23:34.240 -> 23:38.240] strength of character and I think we were
[23:36.520 -> 23:40.320] privileged enough to get a little
[23:38.240 -> 23:42.680] glimpse of that. And I actually finished
[23:40.320 -> 23:43.880] that conversation thinking I knew Alex
[23:42.680 -> 23:46.560] was a really good driver. I've met him
[23:43.880 -> 23:56.040] many times over the years but I'd never seen the Alex that we saw in the second part of the conversation where he's able to really nicely balance the vulnerability with the strength that he's got now.
[23:56.040 -> 24:01.000] And I think all too often, you know, we look at vulnerability in the elite sports world and think, well, you're vulnerable.
[24:01.000 -> 24:01.760] That's a weakness.
[24:01.780 -> 24:03.880] But in his case, that vulnerability is a strength.
[24:03.880 -> 24:08.040] That vulnerability is making him faster on the track.
[24:08.040 -> 24:09.320] Yeah, absolutely.
[24:09.320 -> 24:12.400] And you know, I'm excited to see what the next chapter
[24:12.400 -> 24:15.920] of his career holds, because he's a man with huge ambition,
[24:15.920 -> 24:18.480] but also his feet firmly booted on the ground
[24:18.480 -> 24:20.000] of making it happen.
[24:20.000 -> 24:21.040] Okay, right.
[24:21.040 -> 24:22.100] Another clip then.
[24:22.100 -> 24:24.640] The most requested guest actually from our audience
[24:24.640 -> 24:26.260] for the last couple of years.
[24:26.260 -> 24:29.240] We finally got the chance to chat to this person.
[24:29.240 -> 24:31.640] And not only that, we did it in front of a thousand friends
[24:31.640 -> 24:33.400] at a venue in central London.
[24:33.400 -> 24:34.640] And in the second half of our show,
[24:34.640 -> 24:36.160] we actually handed the microphone over
[24:36.160 -> 24:37.240] to the audience in the room
[24:37.240 -> 24:39.720] and we gave people the chance to question
[24:39.720 -> 24:42.680] the England Lionesses manager, Serena Vigeman,
[24:42.680 -> 24:46.000] about how she has changed the face of English football
[24:46.000 -> 24:52.240] and brought us our first trophy for 56 years. And the final question of the night came from
[24:52.240 -> 24:58.560] Bailey and I think it sums up the energy in the room that night.
[24:58.560 -> 25:02.320] So my name is Bailey. I'm currently studying a degree in sport and exercise science in
[25:02.320 -> 25:05.320] my third year. My question, what advice would you give
[25:05.320 -> 25:07.480] to women or young girls who are just starting out
[25:07.480 -> 25:09.560] in their career, not just in football,
[25:09.560 -> 25:10.600] but in sport as a whole,
[25:10.600 -> 25:12.920] because we know it's quite a male dominated field.
[25:12.920 -> 25:15.240] What advice would you give us
[25:15.240 -> 25:17.540] as we're just coming up through our education?
[25:18.760 -> 25:20.280] Go for it.
[25:20.280 -> 25:22.680] And don't let anyone push you back.
[25:24.480 -> 25:27.320] And yeah, well, I said that earlier this evening,
[25:27.400 -> 25:30.280] if you get the impression that people think you can't do it,
[25:30.360 -> 25:34.280] yes, you can. Trust yourself and follow your heart.
[25:34.360 -> 25:35.360] Keep going.
[25:35.440 -> 25:37.960] Tell me, Bailey, have you been inspired by what Serena's done
[25:38.040 -> 25:39.400] and the things you've heard tonight?
[25:39.480 -> 25:42.400] Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I've always loved football.
[25:42.480 -> 25:45.240] I've always loved... I grew up watching men's football,
[25:45.240 -> 25:47.240] but I think as women's football has got bigger,
[25:47.240 -> 25:49.040] I've loved watching that a lot more.
[25:50.000 -> 25:52.360] I think it was said earlier, it's such a more inclusive game
[25:52.360 -> 25:56.280] and what you've done as an individual is absolutely amazing
[25:56.280 -> 25:57.800] and it's, yeah, it's really inspiring.
[25:57.800 -> 25:59.860] So thank you for not just what you've done
[25:59.860 -> 26:03.800] for English football, but for sport as a whole.
[26:03.800 -> 26:04.960] Oh, thank you.
[26:04.960 -> 26:09.400] Thank you very much. English football but for sport as a whole.
[26:12.200 -> 26:18.120] It felt like something special happening there didn't it? Oh it was incredible I think it was beyond us, it was beyond Sabrina, it was
[26:18.120 -> 26:22.040] beyond the podcast. I think there was something there about a group of people
[26:22.040 -> 26:25.280] coming together to just acknowledge a seismic shift in our culture where to ymlaen ynglyn â grwp o bobl sy'n dod â'n gilydd i ddysgwyl
[26:25.280 -> 26:31.040] llawer o ddewis ar gyfer ein ddyluniaeth, lle i gael rhywun sydd wedi cynyddu
[26:31.040 -> 26:35.280] grwp o ffyrdd i ddod â'r sgwrs glas ac i fod yn cael ei ddweud fel
[26:35.280 -> 26:39.360] cyd-dreth yn y sport sy'n ymdrech ar y flwyddyn gynhyrchu y flwyddyn gynhyrchu
[26:39.360 -> 26:42.560] am ddau blynyddoedd. Roedd yn ddiddorol iawn, ac rwy'n credu
[26:42.560 -> 26:46.880] y cwestiynau a oedden nhw'n cael eu gofyn o'r cynghoron i ni felt really significant and I think the questions that were asked from the
[26:44.180 -> 26:50.380] audience gave us a clue as to the
[26:46.880 -> 26:52.860] pride, the voice, the identity that so
[26:50.380 -> 26:56.080] many young women have gained from
[26:52.860 -> 26:58.780] watching the lionesses. I totally agree and
[26:56.080 -> 27:00.280] I think um what stood out for me was the
[26:58.780 -> 27:02.180] emotion she showed every time she spoke
[27:00.280 -> 27:03.520] about improving other people. I think
[27:02.180 -> 27:05.440] that's a great reminder because I think
[27:03.520 -> 27:07.760] that we think leadership is about improving ourselves. Leadership is not about improving
[27:07.760 -> 27:11.480] ourselves. It's about lifting up the people around us. And if you want to, you can hear
[27:11.480 -> 27:16.320] all of the questions that were asked of Serena in the room on that evening by downloading
[27:16.320 -> 27:20.000] the high performance app. Just go to the app store, search for high performance and use
[27:20.000 -> 27:26.800] the code H P A P P to get access to the app app and you will hear among that Dame Kelly Holmes
[27:26.800 -> 27:34.520] asking a question to Serena and in the answer to that you will get an understanding of how
[27:34.520 -> 27:38.400] and why Serena puts other people at the centre of what she does. I won't explain any more
[27:38.400 -> 27:41.880] because I think it's important you hear it from Serena but download the High Performance
[27:41.880 -> 27:49.640] app right now and you can find out more.. Yeah it was brilliant and I'd encourage anyone go and listen to that
[27:49.640 -> 27:54.440] whole interview and I think hopefully the the energy the warmth the passion
[27:54.440 -> 27:59.480] for her answers that we felt in the room all emanate through your own ears. It's
[27:59.480 -> 28:02.360] been another amazing month can I just say thank you to the millions of you
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