Introducing "The Energy Equation" with Oli Patrick

"The Energy Equation" is an enlightening series that delves deep into the intricate relationship between energy, fatigue, wellbeing and our daily actions. Brought to you by the team behind the award-winning High Performance podcast, we unlock the secrets of movement, sleep, nutrition, and stress management, exploring how these crucial factors shape our overall energy levels. We’ve equipped guests with one of the most advanced energy monitors in the world, to gather precise data they can’t hide from, which is revealed for the first time, during the recording.

Hosted by Physiologist and Lifestyle Specialist, Oli Patrick, each episode features compelling conversations with highly accomplished individuals exploring how their energy levels affect performance in their field and in their day-to-day lives. Through personalized feedback based on personalized stress, sleep and fitness data, Oli meticulously examines the unique strategies employed by our esteemed guests to effectively manage their energy and unleash their full potential, while providing valuable insights and practical recommendations for further enhancement. 

In this episode, Jake and Damian speak to Oli about the series and some of his highlights from working with guests from across sports, entertainment and endurance. The Energy Equation will be available on the High Performance Podcast feed over the next 4 weeks but you can watch the first four episodes right now on the High Performance App. Download it at https://www.thehighperformancepodcast.com/app-link

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# The Energy Equation: A Comprehensive Guide to High Performance

**Introduction:**

The Energy Equation is a groundbreaking new podcast series by physiologist and lifestyle specialist Oli Patrick, brought to you by the team behind the award-winning High Performance podcast. This series delves into the intricate relationship between energy, fatigue, well-being, and our daily actions, exploring how these crucial factors shape our overall energy levels.

**Key Points:**

* **Energy as the Root of All Things:** Oli Patrick emphasizes that energy is the foundation of our physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual well-being. Without adequate energy, we struggle to perform at our best, maintain healthy relationships, and pursue our purpose in life.

* **The Energy Deficiency Epidemic:** Modern life often leads to an energy deficiency, characterized by fatigue, impaired immune function, reduced sex drive, and skin conditions. This energy crisis stems from a combination of factors, including an obesogenic environment that promotes weight gain and an anxiogenic environment that constantly triggers stress and anxiety.

* **Holistic Approach to Energy Management:** Oli Patrick advocates for a holistic approach to energy management, recognizing that energy is influenced by various lifestyle factors, including movement, nutrition, sleep, mindset, and environment. He emphasizes the importance of identifying individual limiting factors and implementing targeted strategies to address them.

* **The Energy Equation Podcast:** The Energy Equation podcast features in-depth interviews with accomplished individuals from diverse fields, including sports, entertainment, and endurance. Each episode delves into the guest's lifestyle and reveals personalized feedback based on their stress, sleep, and fitness data. Oli Patrick meticulously examines the unique strategies employed by these individuals to effectively manage their energy and unleash their full potential.

* **Practical Recommendations for Energy Enhancement:** Throughout the podcast series, Oli Patrick provides valuable insights and practical recommendations for listeners to enhance their energy levels. These recommendations focus on simple, sustainable changes that can have a significant impact on overall well-being and performance.

* **The Importance of Stillness and Energy Restoration:** Oli Patrick highlights the importance of finding stillness and opportunities for genuine energy restoration in our fast-paced lives. This can involve activities such as mindful eating, proper breathing techniques, reducing alcohol and caffeine consumption, and engaging in calming practices.

**Conclusion:**

The Energy Equation podcast is an invaluable resource for anyone seeking to optimize their energy levels, enhance their well-being, and achieve high performance in all aspects of life. Oli Patrick's expert guidance and the inspiring stories of his guests provide a comprehensive roadmap for unlocking our full potential and living more fulfilling lives.

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[02:41.560 -> 02:47.360] hey everyone welcome along to high Performance. Today we are incredibly excited because after
[02:47.360 -> 03:03.720] four years, we have a really big announcement. We have a brand new podcast from High Performance.
[03:03.720 -> 03:05.840] And I guess when it comes to why have we done this?
[03:05.840 -> 03:10.760] I think it probably comes down to us realizing all the things that we don't know rather than what we do know
[03:10.900 -> 03:11.400] Yeah
[03:11.400 -> 03:17.120] One of the big themes that we often speak about on the podcast Jake has been the Dunning-Kruger law where if you're good at something
[03:17.120 -> 03:20.880] You know why you're good at it, but on the flip side if you're stupid
[03:20.880 -> 03:27.880] You're too stupid to know why you're stupid and when it comes to understanding the how of high performance sometimes like the
[03:27.880 -> 03:32.600] physiology of how we go about doing it, that's where we know nothing and that's
[03:32.600 -> 03:37.100] why it's important to bring in an expert to tell us what we need to be doing.
[03:37.100 -> 03:40.840] brilliant because we're well aware where we're stupid and we're also well aware
[03:40.840 -> 03:44.320] that the man who's bringing you this brand new podcast is far from stupid he
[03:44.320 -> 03:50.300] is a world-leading physiologist and he worked with us on the high-performance tour just recently.
[03:50.300 -> 03:57.000] And it got us all thinking if this podcast is all about how you psychologically deal with life,
[03:57.700 -> 03:59.800] how do you physiologically deal with life?
[03:59.800 -> 04:04.400] What's the physical stuff that we can all be learning, all be gleaning to live the life we want,
[04:04.400 -> 04:08.600] achieve the things we want and get to somewhere where we want to be. So I'm so pleased to
[04:08.600 -> 04:14.000] introduce to the high-performance family, physiologist Oli Patrick. Oli, how are you?
[04:14.000 -> 04:16.560] Oli Patrick- I'm so well. It's a treat to be here with you both.
[04:16.560 -> 04:20.360] Jason Vale- Look, let's begin then with the title of the podcast. What's it called?
[04:20.360 -> 04:23.760] Oli Patrick- It is called the Energy Equation by High Performance.
[04:23.760 -> 04:26.160] Jason Vale- Love it. Now Now we've explained a bit why we
[04:26.160 -> 04:30.800] wanted to do this. Would you mind sharing why you wanted to do this?
[04:30.800 -> 04:34.880] Matthew Fletcher I think I wanted to do it because ultimately
[04:34.880 -> 04:40.840] I think well-being lifestyle has become a confusing landscape. I think a lot of people
[04:40.840 -> 04:45.040] feel very guilty about the life they're not leading and people feel
[04:45.040 -> 04:50.000] misled with the choices they're taking day in day out that affects their well-being and
[04:50.000 -> 04:52.880] as a byproduct of that, their performance.
[04:52.880 -> 04:58.720] I think when you listen to your episodes of which I do often frequently all of them, you
[04:58.720 -> 05:03.640] get a great insight into the mindset and as you say the drive and the reason why.
[05:03.640 -> 05:05.840] But you're sat certainly thinking that's great
[05:05.840 -> 05:10.760] that this person's delivering extraordinary things but how are they doing that and what
[05:10.760 -> 05:13.640] are the practical things they do on a daily basis? You know, what time do they get up
[05:13.640 -> 05:18.320] in the morning? What do they have for breakfast? Do they have breakfast? Do they do any form
[05:18.320 -> 05:23.080] of meditation or stress relief? What's their sleep rituals look like? And I think when
[05:23.080 -> 05:26.040] we look at people who perform well, there's often a series of habits
[05:26.440 -> 05:28.440] actions and behaviors that underpin that
[05:28.820 -> 05:33.280] many of which are you know transposable to the everyday audience and I think
[05:33.560 -> 05:39.940] What I really wanted to do was was give people a sense of how much they control over their version of high performance
[05:40.240 -> 05:44.440] Through simple practical actions they can take day in day out. It sounds incredible
[05:44.440 -> 05:46.600] So the very first episode is going to be a week today
[05:46.600 -> 05:51.280] which you can hear right here on High Performance and if you want to you can
[05:51.280 -> 05:55.560] listen to the first four episodes of the Energy Equation right now by downloading
[05:55.560 -> 05:59.160] the High Performance app which is totally free. Get it from the App Store.
[05:59.160 -> 06:05.520] So you've had a stellar guest list as people come in under your microscope, Ollie. Would
[06:05.520 -> 06:09.840] you tell us some of those guests, but more importantly, what the listener can take away
[06:09.840 -> 06:10.840] for their own lives?
[06:10.840 -> 06:12.680] Ollie Well, I've picked your black book, which
[06:12.680 -> 06:18.360] was great. So we've got some absolute crackers. I think the great piece across all the guests
[06:18.360 -> 06:23.000] is we're going to interview them about their lifestyle, but we're also going to run a fairly
[06:23.000 -> 06:26.080] unique physiological test on them all and
[06:26.080 -> 06:32.860] that test gives us the ability to dive into how they are dealing with stress objectively,
[06:32.860 -> 06:37.400] how they're sleeping from a recovery perspective again measured objectively, their fitness
[06:37.400 -> 06:42.360] and activity levels again measured objectively. So we get a real look under the bonnet of
[06:42.360 -> 06:49.000] these people and to give them a total thrill, we reveal those results live to them in the second half of the podcast.
[06:49.000 -> 07:09.560] So we have this deep dive into their lifestyle who's been on the main pod, who is
[07:09.560 -> 07:14.440] well known for his fundraising work in honor of his daughter Azalea, who passed away, but
[07:14.440 -> 07:20.120] is completing extraordinary physical tasks from ultra marathons to ultra kayaks, even
[07:20.120 -> 07:26.800] if that is a thing, and generating extraordinary outputs that make me question how, you know,
[07:26.800 -> 07:31.260] what does someone look like day in day out who's able to deliver 100 mile kayaks after
[07:31.260 -> 07:37.260] 100 mile rides, after 100 mile runs. We've got along that theme, the adventurer Ash Dykes,
[07:37.260 -> 07:43.820] and again another podcast guest from the main pod, where he has performed tasks that make
[07:43.820 -> 07:45.720] no sense to me. You know, and I
[07:45.720 -> 07:49.040] sit there with a sense of wonder to say, what makes someone walk from the source of the
[07:49.040 -> 07:54.960] Anksy River, you know, 4000 miles to the other end? It's not in my, you know, plans, short
[07:54.960 -> 08:00.600] or medium, but how again does he do that nutritionally? What sort of weight loss do we experience during
[08:00.600 -> 08:06.480] that? What again lies under the bonnet of preparing for an event that most of us
[08:06.480 -> 08:11.000] couldn't even conceive. Beyond the sort of elite athletes, we've also got people who
[08:11.000 -> 08:14.960] lead lives most of our listeners could relate to. You know, people with children. We've
[08:14.960 -> 08:21.800] got Stacey Solomon, who's an incredible ambassador for doing it all. You know, five children,
[08:21.800 -> 08:25.600] TV career, and she's got multiple business interests.
[08:26.000 -> 08:28.200] How? You know, how does Stacey sleep at night
[08:28.300 -> 08:31.200] when she's got this huge persona and six million followers
[08:31.300 -> 08:33.400] asking what she's doing at every step of the day?
[08:33.700 -> 08:35.700] To Tom Skinner, who again found fame
[08:35.800 -> 08:38.600] through The Apprentice and then on Celebrity MasterChef.
[08:39.000 -> 08:41.100] You know, the sort of, the trader's trader,
[08:41.200 -> 08:44.900] the white van man who's leading a grafting lifestyle.
[08:45.000 -> 08:45.100] You know, he's out on the stalls, still selling his wares, the traders trader, the white van man who's leading a grafting lifestyle.
[08:47.800 -> 08:47.900] You know, he's out on the stalls, still selling his wares,
[08:50.740 -> 08:51.240] you know, ebbing and flowing, the king of Romford, no less.
[08:53.240 -> 08:53.340] How's he do it? You know, how does he get up early?
[08:55.540 -> 08:55.640] And how does he sustain going to Dino's
[08:57.640 -> 08:57.740] for a fry-up every morning? What does that look like?
[09:00.980 -> 09:01.080] So, this isn't about leading the perfect lifestyle.
[09:03.680 -> 09:03.780] This is about these people are performing,
[09:04.980 -> 09:05.160] how are they doing
[09:05.160 -> 09:08.920] it, and what is there that we can all learn from that, and what does the data tell us
[09:08.920 -> 09:12.840] that we did know, and actually quite a few revelations that we didn't know.
[09:12.840 -> 09:17.840] Jason Vale – I'm excited about this because the technology that you're using is far ahead
[09:17.840 -> 09:21.600] of the kind of stuff that we're relying on at the moment, the wearable tech that is now
[09:21.600 -> 09:25.160] prevalent in society, right? So this is a real genuine deep dive.
[09:25.160 -> 09:27.120] I'll tell you what I'm thinking about though.
[09:27.120 -> 09:29.280] I remember you saying to me,
[09:29.280 -> 09:30.720] if we walked into a station in the morning
[09:30.720 -> 09:32.280] and everyone was taking painkillers,
[09:32.280 -> 09:34.180] we'd question why is that?
[09:34.180 -> 09:35.480] We walk into a station in the morning,
[09:35.480 -> 09:37.160] everyone's drinking coffee,
[09:37.160 -> 09:40.920] and we just take it as read that everyone's knackered, right?
[09:40.920 -> 09:42.640] What I think we have to be really careful about
[09:42.640 -> 09:44.000] is creating another podcast that goes,
[09:44.000 -> 09:46.880] hey, you can do more than you think by adopting these things.
[09:46.880 -> 09:48.960] Like, is that what this is about?
[09:48.960 -> 09:50.480] Getting people to do more?
[09:50.480 -> 09:52.840] Or is it about something totally different?
[09:52.840 -> 09:54.960] Matthew Feeney It's about getting people to do the right
[09:54.960 -> 09:55.960] thing.
[09:55.960 -> 09:57.440] You can't do more.
[09:57.440 -> 10:02.000] You know, we look at the number of healthy things that we're told to do, and that list
[10:02.000 -> 10:03.640] is getting longer every year.
[10:03.640 -> 10:07.960] So everyone has a guilt around all the things they don't do. You go to someone, do you do a healthy
[10:07.960 -> 10:12.280] lifestyle? No, not really because I don't meditate. Do you do a healthy lifestyle? No,
[10:12.280 -> 10:17.200] I don't do Wim Hof ice baths before I wake up in the morning. I don't juice all my food.
[10:17.200 -> 10:23.280] I don't have a sleep cocoon. So people are sort of feeling very weighed down by the presence
[10:23.280 -> 10:25.840] of all these behaviors that make them feel guilty.
[10:25.840 -> 10:30.140] I think, you know, the flip of that is most people are suffering from less energy than
[10:30.140 -> 10:32.980] they would expect or less energy than they had.
[10:32.980 -> 10:37.160] And that energy isn't just physical get up and go, that might be emotional energy, the
[10:37.160 -> 10:42.340] ability to harbor difficult relationships or mental energy, the ability to think strategically
[10:42.340 -> 10:50.520] or spiritual energy where we cross over with the main part around purpose. And a lot of people aren't just experiencing low physical
[10:50.520 -> 10:55.540] energy that requires caffeine and sugary foods, they're also experiencing a bit of a collective
[10:55.540 -> 11:01.560] energy deficiency. The great danger there is to say that we load that up rather than
[11:01.560 -> 11:06.080] load it down. And I'm really interested in how the human machine
[11:06.080 -> 11:07.160] restores energy.
[11:07.160 -> 11:09.560] Mason I mean load it up rather than load it down.
[11:09.560 -> 11:11.560] Mason I sometimes we need to take things out of
[11:11.560 -> 11:15.400] our life. You know there's an interesting word that's being used in some journals at
[11:15.400 -> 11:20.440] the moment around an angiogenic environment. Which means everything in the world is trying
[11:20.440 -> 11:29.640] to make us anxious. You know we we coined the phrase years ago, an obesogenic environment, which means all my, you know, technological, you know, advancements are
[11:29.640 -> 11:33.940] labor saving. So I have to move less than I ever had to move. And we know from previous
[11:33.940 -> 11:38.440] discussions around the prevalence of ultra processed food and the fact that that delivers
[11:38.440 -> 11:43.540] more calories than I might expect for the same size mouthful as 20 years ago, perhaps.
[11:43.540 -> 11:45.360] So we've got an obesogenic environment
[11:45.360 -> 11:48.880] that means I'm more likely to gain weight, but now we've got this anxiogenic environment
[11:48.880 -> 11:54.640] which means the world is telling me to stay switched on, the world is trying to convince
[11:54.640 -> 12:02.600] me that sleep is a waste of time, that more is better, that being busy is a badge of honor,
[12:02.600 -> 12:05.840] and what we're seeing is people running out of energy.
[12:05.840 -> 12:07.780] And that running out of energy, again,
[12:07.780 -> 12:09.800] might display itself in fatigue,
[12:09.800 -> 12:11.920] which I can mop up with a double espresso
[12:11.920 -> 12:13.360] at Paddington Station.
[12:13.360 -> 12:15.680] Or it might express itself as my immune system
[12:15.680 -> 12:17.680] taking an extra three days to get over that cold
[12:17.680 -> 12:19.040] that went around the office.
[12:19.040 -> 12:21.160] Or it might express itself as a lack of sex drive
[12:21.160 -> 12:23.780] that means I don't wanna have a midweek bonk.
[12:23.780 -> 12:28.080] Or it might be that I have a skin condition that flares more readily
[12:28.080 -> 12:32.400] because the energy to suppress it is no longer available. I see energy in
[12:32.400 -> 12:36.640] everything and and what I see is people with less than they had less than they
[12:36.640 -> 12:40.400] expect and I see a world that's trying to rob it at every turn and I think we
[12:40.400 -> 12:44.200] can play a huge proactive role in giving people more energy than they've got
[12:44.200 -> 12:46.280] currently through some simple adjustments.
[12:46.280 -> 12:49.120] So why does energy matter then?
[12:49.120 -> 12:51.240] I think energy is the root of all things.
[12:51.240 -> 12:55.280] You know, without good physical energy, I wake up tired, you know, and haven't got
[12:55.280 -> 13:02.280] the get up and go to move, to train, to be a physical presence in my life and other people's
[13:02.280 -> 13:03.280] life.
[13:03.280 -> 13:05.440] So energy underpins that physically,
[13:05.440 -> 13:10.640] but also my immune system relies on that physical energy, my ability to clear out a cold or
[13:10.640 -> 13:16.240] resist early cells that might turn into a cancer. So, energy isn't just about whether
[13:16.240 -> 13:21.880] I need a cappuccino in the morning, it's also the very makeup of my cellular structure.
[13:21.880 -> 13:25.220] Beyond physical energy, my mental energy would determine the type
[13:25.220 -> 13:29.460] of thinking I have, whether I could think more strategically or whether I have brain
[13:29.460 -> 13:34.820] fog or I'm not able to think about big picture. Emotional energy, you know, if I don't have
[13:34.820 -> 13:38.780] good emotional energy, am I incentivized to pick up the phone to that family member and
[13:38.780 -> 13:43.820] call them? Can I harbor difficult relationships or do I only harbor good quality relationships?
[13:43.820 -> 13:49.100] So with low energy, who am I calling and who am I not calling? And of course energy ties into
[13:49.100 -> 13:53.240] purpose in the fact that it's very difficult to explore why I'm here on this planet if
[13:53.240 -> 13:58.160] I'm beholden to fatigue and I haven't got that higher level of thinking available to
[13:58.160 -> 14:03.200] me. So I think whatever someone says is bothering them, I ask the question, well what would
[14:03.200 -> 14:09.860] that look like if you had more energy across physical, mental, emotional and spiritual? And to date, I've
[14:09.860 -> 14:13.940] never found anyone in any state of health or well-being or performance who wouldn't
[14:13.940 -> 14:16.220] benefit substantially from more energy.
[14:16.220 -> 14:23.340] R. This sounds ideal. Have you got a clip that gives our listeners insight into what
[14:23.340 -> 14:25.160] they can expect from the energy equation.
[14:25.160 -> 14:29.640] I think it's a really relevant piece to look at that our energy doesn't just
[14:29.640 -> 14:34.160] come from our physiology. So in this clip we'll hear from Ash Kane who is
[14:34.160 -> 14:40.000] performing extraordinary physical tasks yet somehow is doing that on a recovery
[14:40.000 -> 14:45.920] score of 13 out of a hundred where his sleep isn't fully restorative and his body never switches
[14:45.920 -> 14:51.800] off. Yet, he's still finding the energy from somewhere to perform extraordinary tasks.
[14:51.800 -> 14:53.560] In this clip, we dive into that.
[14:53.560 -> 14:59.720] I think the hard thing is with me, you know, like I'm a creature that does something and
[14:59.720 -> 15:03.360] learns from it, you know, like a learning bar, yeah. And then once I've learned it and
[15:03.360 -> 15:11.160] I know it, it's hard for me to go back on it. So I know that, you know, doing the Yukon for example, I'm paddling
[15:11.160 -> 15:18.760] 125 to 150 miles a day, I'm paddling for 18 hours consistently a day, and then when we
[15:18.760 -> 15:25.960] drag the boat up onto the island, not only are we like unclipping and unpacking bags, not only are we
[15:25.960 -> 15:30.360] drying clothes, not only are we backing the water to filter our water, to cook our food, to get
[15:30.360 -> 15:38.000] changed to pitch our tent, to sleep, when you do sleep you're getting to four hours max a night
[15:38.000 -> 15:42.760] before you start the whole process again. Now it took us seven days, eight hours, if we needed to
[15:42.760 -> 15:49.020] go more we could have gone more. My point being is that a lot of people in this world or like moan if they haven't got enough sleep
[15:49.280 -> 15:52.160] I'm just one of them kind of people if I know I've got three hours sleep tonight
[15:52.160 -> 15:54.540] I know that I can get the next day cuz I've been there and done it
[15:56.300 -> 16:01.360] What an interesting clip and I tell you what it makes me think of people listening to this who are going well
[16:01.540 -> 16:05.280] How is he able to do that on a few hours sleep a night?
[16:05.920 -> 16:09.920] Because I'm getting eight, nine, ten hours and I'm still exhausted. What does it tell us about
[16:09.920 -> 16:14.480] those people that are getting the sleep but are still feeling when they wake up in the morning?
[16:14.480 -> 16:17.600] Mason I think if something is already a strength,
[16:17.600 -> 16:21.120] then it isn't our limiting factor. You know, what I'm really keen to do is say,
[16:21.680 -> 16:29.620] there's many different factors that could influence how energized I feel and if I sleep eight hours of good restorative sleep, then I should stop looking
[16:29.620 -> 16:33.960] at sleep as the cause of the problem. If it's not the cause, it's not the solution. And
[16:33.960 -> 16:38.680] we find this in many areas where someone says, well, I train a huge amount, but I'm not getting
[16:38.680 -> 16:42.900] the increase in energy or the change in weight management. Well, then maybe the training
[16:42.900 -> 16:48.580] volume and quality isn't the limiting factor. Maybe it's something else that affects your body, quality of nutrition
[16:48.580 -> 16:52.200] and what you're putting into your mouth. Or maybe in that situation, you train well and
[16:52.200 -> 16:56.540] you eat well, but you don't sleep and during sleep is when we grow, during sleep is when
[16:56.540 -> 17:01.900] we adapt. Or it could be in that situation that you sleep well, you eat well, you move
[17:01.900 -> 17:05.120] well, but you have a very low opinion of yourself and your
[17:05.120 -> 17:10.940] mindset has become limiting to those developments. What I'm really keen to do is not be bound
[17:10.940 -> 17:16.140] to a particular action or habit that is universally healthy or energizing. What we're trying to
[17:16.140 -> 17:21.420] do is work out where in an individual's lifestyle are their limiting factors. What's the thing
[17:21.420 -> 17:25.200] that they're not doing that they could focus on to get the bigger bang for their buck.
[17:25.200 -> 17:28.080] Ricky Veyes So one of the things that I love about your
[17:28.080 -> 17:33.400] work Oli is that you're not bound to a particular methodology, that there's that curiosity
[17:33.400 -> 17:39.280] that you have. So for anyone that is similarly curious about how they can do this kind of
[17:39.280 -> 17:44.880] analysis themselves in their lives, what are the big principles that they need to be looking
[17:44.880 -> 17:45.340] at to give them a starting place? themselves in their lives. What are the big principles that they need to be looking at
[17:45.340 -> 17:47.420] to give them a start in place?
[17:47.420 -> 17:50.100] Toby I think the best thing about the principles
[17:50.100 -> 17:55.280] are they're generally free, democratized, accessible. You know, what I don't want is
[17:55.280 -> 17:59.020] people listening to the pod thinking, oh he's going to tell me to do an IV vitamin infusion
[17:59.020 -> 18:03.740] every Thursday morning or, you know, sleep in a hyperbaric chamber. I'm aware of all
[18:03.740 -> 18:05.900] those technologies and where they play a role.
[18:06.300 -> 18:08.100] I think the key thing we have to understand
[18:08.200 -> 18:10.300] is the actions we take day in, day out,
[18:10.400 -> 18:13.100] conscious, as in I've made that selection deliberately,
[18:13.200 -> 18:16.100] or unconscious, I've naturally not drunk water,
[18:16.200 -> 18:18.700] I've naturally, you know, ignored other people around me.
[18:19.000 -> 18:21.100] They define how energized we feel,
[18:21.200 -> 18:22.500] and above and beyond that,
[18:22.600 -> 18:24.900] how well we will live and how long we'll live.
[18:29.660 -> 18:35.080] And we, you know, when we first started to look at DNA, we thought our health lay in our genetic material and we're seeing the contribution of our genetics diminish and diminish in terms of its
[18:35.080 -> 18:40.840] role in not just feeling but also longevity and health. But lifestyle is more than movement,
[18:40.840 -> 18:50.080] it's more than nutrition, it's also sleep, it's also mindset and it's also environment. And I think what I've got to do is try and work out where an individual's
[18:50.080 -> 18:56.160] limiting factor is that's most gonna unlock energy. And if I unlock more energy with that
[18:56.160 -> 19:00.120] individual, whatever they were telling me was bothering them is likely to bother them
[19:00.120 -> 19:05.280] less. So I don't need to go into is this about you know recovering from a
[19:05.280 -> 19:10.360] significant cancer, is this about weight management, is this about surviving during
[19:10.360 -> 19:15.320] an IPO of your organization. What I know is if I give you more cellular energy
[19:15.320 -> 19:20.480] your ability to resist that or to bear with that or to flourish in the face of
[19:20.480 -> 19:25.240] that will be greater. So lifestyle is a toolkit not a prescription and we've
[19:25.240 -> 19:28.200] got to choose the right tool at the right time for the right job.
[19:28.200 -> 19:33.240] Right, before we wrap this up let's have one last clip from the energy equation which is
[19:33.240 -> 19:37.560] available right now on the high-performance app. What would you choose?
[19:37.560 -> 19:42.040] We have the wonderful Stacey Solomon who is hugely popular for many good reasons. She's
[19:42.040 -> 19:49.580] the real deal and actually I think a lot of people are fascinated by how she does juggle the different factors in her life. And she's
[19:49.580 -> 19:54.760] got this incredible TV career. She's got this huge entrepreneurial side to her in terms
[19:54.760 -> 20:01.920] of jewelry businesses and other forms. And people wonder how she does it all. And I think
[20:01.920 -> 20:11.480] she's very candid in the fact that there are certain times in life where you cannot get the perfect balance between recovery and energy out. And she's quite strong
[20:11.480 -> 20:15.720] in her assertion that this is the stage of life to push. And this is how she's doing
[20:15.720 -> 20:16.720] that.
[20:16.720 -> 20:18.720] How do you buffer stress?
[20:18.720 -> 20:26.480] I, until I wore that stupid monitor you made me wear, I always thought I was never stressed. Like
[20:26.480 -> 20:33.180] I don't ever feel stressed. Nothing stresses me out unless it's someone in trouble or if
[20:33.180 -> 20:38.760] my children were in trouble or, you know, if I was in trouble. Outside of that, I'm
[20:38.760 -> 20:45.960] kind of a bit numb. And if anything happens, I'm like, are you alive? Are you healthy? Are you well?
[20:45.960 -> 20:53.040] Then fine. Jobs, money, everything else can come and go as long as you're safe. So I always
[20:53.040 -> 20:56.480] thought I was really middle of the road, not stressed at all. But I'll put your money on
[20:56.480 -> 20:59.480] and it's read immediately. I was like, oh God!
[20:59.480 -> 21:03.520] Doesn't mean stress. I think that's such an interesting perspective. It's such a strength
[21:03.520 -> 21:07.960] because you say numb, but isn't it, it's not so much numb, it's more perspective.
[21:07.960 -> 21:16.160] Yeah, I guess unless it's the absolute worst, is it really that bad, is my mindset, I suppose.
[21:16.160 -> 21:22.160] That sounds really horrible, but I don't know if that makes people's everyday problems seem
[21:22.160 -> 21:25.120] like they're not really a problem, which they are, but just to me,
[21:25.120 -> 21:31.400] I don't, I'm a catastrophizer. So unless it's the absolute worst, I'm like, thank God for
[21:31.400 -> 21:32.400] that. You know?
[21:32.400 -> 21:34.920] Matthew Feeney I think there'll be psychologists all over
[21:34.920 -> 21:38.660] the place going, brilliant. And again, that ability to take small things, turn them into
[21:38.660 -> 21:42.060] big things is a great challenge. You know, there's, there's many quotes that say lots
[21:42.060 -> 21:45.460] of people live a highly stressful life life worrying about the things that never happened
[21:45.460 -> 21:47.460] Oh, well, that is also me
[21:52.580 -> 21:58.400] Well, that was fascinating listen to Stacy there only I am conscious as we launch this that
[21:59.120 -> 22:03.920] People are drowning in information out there in terms of what they need to do what they don't need to do
[22:09.360 -> 22:14.360] Lifestyle habits you need to of what they need to do, what they don't need to do, lifestyle habits they need to acquire, ones you need to drop. Would you tell us why a listener should choose to access this information and what it's
[22:14.360 -> 22:20.160] going to give them? I hope it's going to be a tone of kindness. I think well-being
[22:20.160 -> 22:26.200] can feel very cold and very prescriptive. And here we're using our guests and their
[22:26.200 -> 22:33.280] openness to create context, which is you can't do it all. You know, we need to choose one
[22:33.280 -> 22:38.320] or two key behaviors that will move the dial. And the ones for my guests may well be the
[22:38.320 -> 22:43.300] ones for our listeners. They may not, but we're trying to create a sense that the actions
[22:43.300 -> 22:46.560] you take, small actions done consistently,
[22:46.560 -> 22:51.380] will have a huge impact on how you feel and that will ripple into the further promise
[22:51.380 -> 22:56.760] of performance. This isn't about changing your life. We're not expecting people to have
[22:56.760 -> 23:01.920] a road of Damascus moment where suddenly the light shines and they give up on their ways.
[23:01.920 -> 23:10.960] You know, we know people have kids, we know people have busy lives. We're not looking to create well-being obsessed individuals. What we're looking to do is allow
[23:10.960 -> 23:16.400] well-being to underpin performance through hopefully guiding people to one or two small
[23:16.400 -> 23:22.080] sustainable changes that can have a significant impact on their energy and in doing so potentially
[23:22.080 -> 23:24.400] transform the landscape of their life. Rory Bennett
[23:24.400 -> 23:25.640] Brilliant. Ollie, we wish you the very best of luck of the life. Brilliant. Oli, we
[23:25.640 -> 23:29.360] wish you the very best of luck with the series. It sounds fascinating. If you want to hear
[23:29.360 -> 23:33.920] the energy equation right now, then you can get the first four episodes on the High Performance
[23:33.920 -> 23:37.680] app. Head to the App Store, download the app, and they're right there. And if you want to
[23:37.680 -> 23:42.060] wait a week, the first episode will be right here on the High Performance podcast channel
[23:42.060 -> 23:46.080] in seven days' time. Oli, one last little thing I'd love
[23:46.080 -> 23:50.200] you to leave us with really is that, you know how we ask our guests on the podcast, your
[23:50.200 -> 23:55.440] one golden rule to living a high performance life? I guess I'd love your one golden learning
[23:55.440 -> 23:59.980] from the energy equation that we can leave ringing in people's ears to get them ready
[23:59.980 -> 24:00.980] for this new series.
[24:00.980 -> 24:09.840] Ollie I think my key takeaway is people's lives are extremely fast and full and busy but focusing
[24:09.840 -> 24:16.760] on finding stillness, finding a genuine opportunity to restore energy can be utterly transformative
[24:16.760 -> 24:20.780] and as you'll hear across the episodes for someone that might be sitting and chewing
[24:20.780 -> 24:30.480] a meal, for someone else that might be breathing properly, for someone else that might be changing their relationship with alcohol or caffeine. But increasing the
[24:30.480 -> 24:37.280] speed at which we go slow is absolutely fundamental to almost every guest we've had on and it's
[24:37.280 -> 24:43.840] contradictory to what the modern world is telling us. So focusing on calm, energy restoration,
[24:43.840 -> 24:46.440] breaking the cycle of stimulus is something that I
[24:46.440 -> 24:49.880] hope will transpose clearly through all of these great chats.
[24:49.880 -> 24:50.880] Brilliant.
[24:50.880 -> 24:53.640] Oli, thank you so much for your time.
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