E68 - Daniel Sturridge: The power of unfinished business

It’s the last in our EUROS special! Today we’re joined by footballer Daniel Sturridge. 

Daniel started his career at Manchester City before signing for Chelsea in 2009, where he scored 24 before he was sold to Liverpool for £12m in 2013.

Daniel played and scored regularly in the 2013-14 season, when Liverpool came close to winning the Premier League title and he was part of the squad that won the Champions League in 2019.

Now in LA, he is training and focused for a return to elite football. 

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# **High Performance with Daniel Sturridge: A Journey Through Triumphs and Tribulations**

## **Navigating the Peaks and Troughs of a Football Career**

Daniel Sturridge, a former Premier League and Champions League winner, opens up about the highs and lows of his football career, emphasizing the importance of mental clarity and resilience in achieving high performance.

### **The Essence of High Performance**

According to Sturridge, high performance is not just about being the best or achieving world-class results. It's about striving to be the best version of oneself and maximizing one's potential within their unique abilities and limitations.

### **Avoiding Common Mistakes**

Sturridge highlights the importance of avoiding parental pressure and excessive criticism, which can harm young athletes' confidence. He emphasizes the need for a supportive environment that fosters self-belief and encourages players to take achievable steps toward improvement.

### **Developing and Protecting Confidence**

Sturridge stresses the significance of building confidence through gradual progress and setting realistic goals. He acknowledges that confidence can be fragile and recommends seeking external support, such as working with a psychologist, to overcome periods of self-doubt.

### **The Challenges of Being a Professional Footballer**

Sturridge candidly discusses the challenges of being a professional footballer, including the relentless pressure to succeed, the constant scrutiny, and the difficulty in savoring achievements due to the relentless pursuit of the next goal.

### **Finding Clarity and Overcoming Mental Hurdles**

Sturridge emphasizes the transformative impact of taking a break from football, allowing him to reflect, analyze his career, and develop a clearer perspective. He credits working with a psychologist for helping him heal past traumas and gain a deeper understanding of his motivations and values.

### **The Power of Positivity and Patience**

Sturridge underscores the importance of surrounding oneself with positivity and positive energy to maintain peak performance. He acknowledges that the journey to success takes time and requires patience, resilience, and a willingness to embrace the process.

### **From the Lowest Lows to the Highest Highs**

Sturridge recounts a pivotal moment in his career when he feared his career was over due to an operation. However, he persevered, scoring a hat-trick in his first game back and subsequently scoring in the FA Cup and Premier League within days. This experience taught him the value of mental fortitude and the ability to bounce back from adversity.

### **The Unspoken Aspect of High Performance: Mental Dexterity**

Sturridge highlights the often-overlooked aspect of mental dexterity in football, emphasizing that it's not just about physical skills but also about the ability to handle the mental and emotional challenges of the game. He encourages young players to develop their mental strength alongside their technical and physical abilities.

### **Conclusion**

Daniel Sturridge's journey serves as a testament to the importance of mental clarity, resilience, and a supportive environment in achieving high performance. His insights offer valuable lessons for athletes, coaches, parents, and anyone seeking to excel in their chosen field.

# **Podcast Episode Summary: The Ups and Downs of a Footballer's Career with Daniel Sturridge**


## Navigating the Emotional Rollercoaster of a Football Career

* Daniel Sturridge, former Liverpool and Chelsea striker, shares his experiences navigating the emotional highs and lows of a professional football career.


* Sturridge emphasizes the importance of mental resilience and seeking support during challenging times, highlighting the need for more resources to equip young athletes with coping mechanisms.


* He reflects on a particularly difficult period in his career when injuries derailed his progress, leading to feelings of isolation and self-doubt.


* Sturridge credits his eventual recovery to adopting a different mindset, focusing on his overall athleticism rather than solely his identity as a footballer.


## The Power of Embracing Freedom and Instinct in Football

* Sturridge discusses the importance of freedom and instinct in football, emphasizing the joy he experienced when playing with a sense of liberation.


* He contrasts this with periods when he felt constrained by tactical instructions, leading to a loss of his natural instincts and a decline in performance.


* Sturridge highlights the need for coaches to strike a balance between providing structure and allowing players to express their creativity.


## Building Strong Relationships with Coaches

* Sturridge emphasizes the significance of establishing positive relationships with coaches, highlighting the impact of effective communication and mutual respect.


* He shares examples of coaches who had a profound influence on his career, such as Brendan Rodgers, Andre Villas-Boas, and Stuart Pearce, who understood how to motivate and inspire him.


* Sturridge stresses the importance of open dialogue with coaches to understand their expectations and work towards common goals.


## Balancing Football with Other Passions and Interests

* Sturridge discusses the misconception that footballers should solely focus on their sport, arguing that pursuing other interests can enrich their lives and enhance their performance.


* He shares his own experiences with music, acting, and culinary arts, emphasizing the importance of having a well-rounded life outside of football.


* Sturridge believes that embracing diverse interests can help athletes cope with the pressures of their profession and transition smoothly into retirement.


## The Need for a Broader Perspective on Athlete Development

* Sturridge calls for a shift in the traditional approach to athlete development, advocating for a more holistic approach that encompasses emotional well-being, mental resilience, and personal growth.


* He highlights the importance of providing young athletes with the tools and resources they need to navigate the challenges of their careers and transition successfully into life after sports.


* Sturridge emphasizes the need for a supportive environment that encourages athletes to pursue their passions and interests beyond their sport.

### Overview: Daniel Sturridge's High Performance Journey ###



Daniel Sturridge, the former Liverpool and Chelsea footballer, joined the High Performance Podcast to discuss his journey through football, his current training regime, and his future aspirations. The conversation highlighted the importance of clarity, passion, and making sacrifices to achieve success.



Sturridge emphasized the significance of having clarity in one's goals and actions. He believes that a lack of clarity was the root cause of many of his past mistakes, leading to regrets. To overcome this, he sought the help of a psychologist, which helped him gain a deeper understanding of himself and his motivations.



The former England international spoke about his current training regime, revealing that he has been diligently preparing for a return to elite football. Despite being out of action for a year due to a ban, Sturridge remains driven and motivated to achieve his goals. He has regained his playing weight and is pushing himself harder than ever before, aiming to be even better than he was in his prime.



Sturridge emphasized the importance of passion in achieving success. He believes that true passion comes from within and is essential for staying motivated and focused. He shared his love for football and music, stating that he only does things that he genuinely loves.



The podcast also touched upon the topic of regret. Sturridge acknowledged the regret he felt due to his betting ban, but he emphasized the importance of learning from mistakes and moving forward. He highlighted the role of accountability and the need to hold oneself responsible for one's actions.



Looking ahead, Sturridge expressed excitement about the prospect of joining a new club and contributing to their success. He is confident in his abilities and believes that he can make a positive impact on any team he joins.



The conversation concluded with Sturridge sharing his golden rule for living a high-performance life: be prepared to make sacrifices. He believes that success requires dedication and the willingness to make sacrifices in order to achieve one's goals.

In this episode, the High Performance Podcast concludes its Euro 2020 special series with a conversation featuring footballer Daniel Sturridge. Sturridge, who played for teams like Manchester City, Chelsea, and Liverpool during his career, shares his insights and experiences in the world of football.

Sturridge reflects on his journey as a footballer, starting from his early days at Manchester City to his successful stint at Liverpool, where he was part of the squad that won the Champions League in 2019. He discusses the challenges and highlights of his career, including the pressure and expectations that come with playing at the highest level.

The podcast explores Sturridge's current focus on training and preparing for a return to elite football. He emphasizes the importance of maintaining physical and mental fitness, as well as the role of self-belief and resilience in achieving success in the sport.

Sturridge also touches upon the mental and emotional aspects of being a professional footballer. He highlights the need for athletes to develop coping mechanisms to deal with the pressures of the game and the public scrutiny that comes with it. He also stresses the importance of having a strong support system, both on and off the field.

The episode concludes with a discussion on the importance of giving back to the community. Sturridge talks about his involvement in various charitable initiatives and his desire to make a positive impact on the lives of others.

Overall, this episode offers a personal and insightful look into the life and career of Daniel Sturridge, providing valuable lessons and perspectives for aspiring athletes and anyone interested in the world of professional football.

[00:00.000 -> 00:08.040] Hi there, welcome along to the final Euro 2020 episode of our special run to coincide
[00:08.040 -> 00:12.660] with what has actually been a brilliant football tournament, hasn't it? And as we all digest
[00:12.660 -> 00:16.760] what happened last night between England and Germany, you're about to hear a conversation
[00:16.760 -> 00:20.680] with a young man who I know would have loved to have been there. In fact, the way that
[00:20.680 -> 00:26.240] his career was going, you would have expected him to be there, but things just didn't go the way he,
[00:26.240 -> 00:28.600] you or I thought they would.
[00:28.600 -> 00:33.000] Today, on this episode, we hear from Daniel Sturridge.
[00:35.320 -> 00:37.000] Of course I want to succeed.
[00:37.000 -> 00:39.160] Of course I want to be the best version of myself.
[00:39.160 -> 00:42.560] Of course I want to win trophies and do all those things.
[00:42.560 -> 00:46.640] But first and foremost, be grateful and soak up the blessings
[00:46.640 -> 00:51.520] because a lot of the times I never lived in the moment of just feeling like, wow, I achieved
[00:51.520 -> 00:55.840] something. I can't wait for you to hear what Daniel has to say. And can I just say thanks for
[00:55.840 -> 01:00.720] all of the comments and thoughts you've sent in to us after these Euro 2020 episodes. Our plan
[01:00.720 -> 01:06.000] really for these four or five episodes was to make you think differently about footballers,
[01:06.000 -> 01:11.360] reconsider what you thought a footballer was like or how they thought or the lives they
[01:11.360 -> 01:17.160] lived and I think from Gareth Southgate to Thomas Hal Robson-Kanu to Hector Beharin to
[01:17.160 -> 01:21.200] Grant Hanley to Daniel Sturridge, I think we've done that so I can't wait for you to
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[05:01.120 -> 05:08.000] life among the elite is one of extremes, devastating lows, public humiliation, private turmoil.
[05:08.000 -> 05:13.320] But they go hand in hand with glorious highs, seemingly endless adulation and the most incredible
[05:13.320 -> 05:15.240] experiences of a rich life.
[05:15.240 -> 05:19.060] So how does a human being begin to process both of those things?
[05:19.060 -> 05:22.420] Because today's guest has felt the lot and he's won the lot.
[05:22.420 -> 05:24.360] Premier League, Champions League, FA Cup.
[05:24.360 -> 05:25.960] Ten years ago it was all ahead of him.
[05:26.360 -> 05:28.760] A decade on, it's a football-filled summer
[05:28.760 -> 05:32.240] that he will spend as a free agent planning his next step.
[05:32.260 -> 05:33.240] So how did he get here?
[05:33.260 -> 05:36.260] What lessons has he learned that can help shape your decision-making?
[05:36.660 -> 05:38.460] And what does he believe the future holds?
[05:38.460 -> 05:38.800] You know what?
[05:38.800 -> 05:41.760] I really think it's time to put your preconceptions to the side
[05:41.760 -> 05:44.860] because this podcast is about who people really are,
[05:45.280 -> 05:46.960] because it's them telling us.
[05:46.960 -> 05:49.640] So welcome to High Performance, Daniel Sturridge.
[05:49.640 -> 05:50.680] Nice to have you with us.
[05:50.680 -> 05:51.560] Thank you very much.
[05:51.560 -> 05:52.400] I appreciate it.
[05:52.400 -> 05:54.920] That was a great introduction there to be fair.
[05:55.960 -> 05:56.800] Well, let's crack on then.
[05:56.800 -> 05:57.680] It was a great introduction, man.
[05:57.680 -> 05:58.800] Yeah, let's do it.
[05:58.800 -> 06:01.640] What is high performance?
[06:01.640 -> 06:03.940] High performance is a, for me,
[06:03.940 -> 06:05.280] I think it's a difficult question to
[06:05.280 -> 06:12.920] answer because it's very subjective some people in sport or football may get it
[06:12.920 -> 06:19.360] confused with being the best or world-class or you know European class or
[06:19.360 -> 06:24.200] whatever. For me succeeding above the average and being successful in your
[06:24.200 -> 06:25.920] field because a lot of people want to be known as the average and being successful in your field, because a lot of
[06:25.920 -> 06:30.640] people want to be known as the best and only the best.
[06:30.640 -> 06:34.840] And that is the 0.00001%.
[06:34.840 -> 06:38.360] There's only a handful of people that can say they are the best in anything.
[06:38.360 -> 06:41.960] You know, I read a book and there was a great quote in it actually about high performance.
[06:41.960 -> 06:46.640] So it was, we do not define high performance experiences as those that produce world
[06:46.640 -> 06:49.760] class results, although world-class results may be an
[06:49.760 -> 06:52.240] occasional outcome to define high performance
[06:52.240 -> 06:57.680] in such a way would place the experience beyond all but the gifted few.
[06:57.680 -> 07:01.200] It says we might harbour the personal illusion that we could do world-class
[07:01.200 -> 07:04.480] work if we wanted to, but for most of us that is an
[07:04.480 -> 07:06.480] unattainable dream. Moreover, holding out do world-class work if we wanted to, but for most of us, that is an unattainable dream.
[07:06.480 -> 07:09.280] Moreover, holding out for world-class performance
[07:09.280 -> 07:10.800] can actually cripple us,
[07:10.800 -> 07:13.680] keeping us from achieving our actual best performance
[07:13.680 -> 07:18.420] with our own unique abilities and limitations.
[07:18.420 -> 07:19.920] High-performance experiences occur
[07:19.920 -> 07:22.360] within the realm of the personal plausible
[07:22.360 -> 07:24.380] and as such are truly empowering.
[07:24.380 -> 07:28.040] So what I took from that was, you know,
[07:28.040 -> 07:30.080] I think it's being the best version of yourself
[07:30.080 -> 07:32.440] and achieving what you can achieve.
[07:32.440 -> 07:34.440] So when you were younger then,
[07:35.440 -> 07:37.600] did you get it wrong and think that high performance
[07:37.600 -> 07:38.560] was being the best?
[07:38.560 -> 07:41.240] Were you too busy comparing yourself to other people?
[07:41.240 -> 07:43.360] Absolutely, absolutely.
[07:43.360 -> 07:44.560] Growing up, you know,
[07:44.560 -> 07:48.320] I knew I was more technically gifted than most,
[07:48.520 -> 07:50.040] to be honest.
[07:50.040 -> 07:53.360] I studied a lot, studied a lot of videos
[07:53.360 -> 07:57.880] and did a lot of skills and all those types of things.
[07:57.880 -> 08:01.680] But I think that you always compare yourself
[08:01.680 -> 08:03.760] to other people because you do want to be known
[08:03.760 -> 08:05.120] as the best person. You want to be known as the best person,
[08:05.120 -> 08:11.120] you want to be known as the best player or the best striker, and that was for me,
[08:11.120 -> 08:17.040] I always wanted to be known as the best, like the number one. And as I've gotten older,
[08:17.040 -> 08:25.880] I've realized that maybe that's a mentality that can be a gift and a curse. It can drive you crazy.
[08:25.880 -> 08:28.400] You do things that you don't necessarily need to do.
[08:28.400 -> 08:32.400] It can take you away from who you truly are to become.
[08:32.400 -> 08:34.560] I think working hard is different
[08:34.560 -> 08:36.600] to what I'm talking about.
[08:36.600 -> 08:37.520] You have to work hard.
[08:37.520 -> 08:38.880] That's a given.
[08:38.880 -> 08:42.080] That's rule number one, work hard.
[08:42.080 -> 08:45.000] But I think saying you want to be the best, it's not attainable for many people. So I'm glad now I'm older. yn y cyfan, gweithio'n anodd. Ond rwy'n credu, yn dweud eich bod chi eisiau bod yn y gwell,
[08:45.000 -> 08:50.000] nid yw'n cael ei gael ar llawer o bobl, felly rwy'n glir nawr rwy'n oed,
[08:50.000 -> 08:53.000] gallaf edrych arno a dweud, oedd hynny'n y mentholiaeth gwaith yr oeddwn i'n ei gael yn y dydd,
[08:53.000 -> 08:56.000] achos nid oedd yn realistig, yn wir.
[08:56.000 -> 09:01.000] Ond yn dweud hynny, Daniel, yr hyn rydych chi wedi'i gael yw'n dal i fod yn wych.
[09:01.000 -> 09:11.000] Mae'r statwsiad hwnnw yw bod dim'n 0.12% o blant sy'n chwarae yn ffwrdd o ffwrdd yn y Llygaid Premier.
[09:11.000 -> 09:18.000] Felly roeddech chi'n dal yn y minoriaeth sydd wedi mynd i gael cyflawniau cyhoeddiol.
[09:18.000 -> 09:27.120] Felly rwy'n mwynhau, beth wnaethoch chi ei wneud yn iawn i gallu cyflawni hynny? Wel, rwy'n credu, eto, gallaf edrych ar fy nyrs hwnnw
[09:27.120 -> 09:32.160] a bod yn ddiolchgar iawn am yr hyn rydw i wedi'i gael.
[09:32.160 -> 09:34.400] Rwy'n credu y pethau rydw i wedi'u wneud yn iawn pan roeddwn i'n byw byw,
[09:34.400 -> 09:37.440] roeddwn i'n ddifrifol iawn.
[09:37.440 -> 09:40.200] Doedd gen i ddim mynediaethau teenage, i gyd,
[09:40.200 -> 09:42.640] o ran, d'y peth ysgol,
[09:42.640 -> 09:44.480] ie, rydyn ni'n mynd allan gyda'r ffrindiau i gyd a byddwn ni'n ymweld â nhw
[09:44.480 -> 09:46.360] a phopeth yna o'r mathau hynny. in terms of, you know, like the high school thing. Yeah, we go out with my friends and we'll hang out and all those types of things.
[09:46.360 -> 09:48.560] For me, I had a match on a Sunday morning
[09:48.560 -> 09:50.840] and on a Saturday night,
[09:50.840 -> 09:53.880] I was obsessed with the Spanish Premier League.
[09:53.880 -> 09:55.280] So I always used to watch, you know,
[09:55.280 -> 09:58.080] Real Madrid or Barcelona play every Saturday night.
[09:58.080 -> 10:00.480] That was my Saturday night
[10:00.480 -> 10:03.040] and my bit of fun that I would have.
[10:03.040 -> 10:07.080] So I'd, you know, like to watch whether it be Zidane, Ronaldo,
[10:07.080 -> 10:09.760] or Rivaldo when he was at Barcelona
[10:09.760 -> 10:11.560] and Figo and people like that.
[10:11.560 -> 10:16.240] So I was really dedicated, always wanted to play football.
[10:16.240 -> 10:18.520] You know, I was in the front garden as a kid,
[10:18.520 -> 10:21.400] you know, kicking a ball against the wall on my own.
[10:21.400 -> 10:24.480] I have an older brother who I used to, you know,
[10:24.480 -> 10:27.840] hang out with all his friends and I was the baby, you know,
[10:27.840 -> 10:30.280] so my brother's eight years older than me
[10:30.280 -> 10:31.120] and all his friends,
[10:31.120 -> 10:33.640] I used to play football with all his friends and, you know,
[10:33.640 -> 10:34.960] score goals against them.
[10:34.960 -> 10:36.560] So I always had that confidence to feel like,
[10:36.560 -> 10:38.240] oh, I'm a little bit, you know,
[10:38.240 -> 10:40.600] they're stronger than me and stuff, but, you know,
[10:40.600 -> 10:41.800] I've still got skills.
[10:41.800 -> 10:44.080] I can still hold my own against these guys.
[10:44.080 -> 10:46.840] So that was, was one of the things.
[10:46.840 -> 10:49.520] And also my dad coached me a lot.
[10:49.520 -> 10:54.800] He used to put maybe 50 cones in a row.
[10:54.800 -> 10:57.800] I dribble through the cones with my left foot, he'd time it.
[10:57.800 -> 11:00.520] I dribble through the cones with my right foot, he'd time it.
[11:00.520 -> 11:02.720] And then it would be a thing of beating the times.
[11:02.720 -> 11:06.120] I used to train a lot on shooting, finishing.
[11:06.120 -> 11:09.560] And I was predominantly left footed probably
[11:09.560 -> 11:12.960] until the age of 19, maybe.
[11:12.960 -> 11:15.680] As in, I'd only really use my left foot.
[11:15.680 -> 11:16.520] You know, people would always say,
[11:16.520 -> 11:18.280] show him on his left, show him on his left.
[11:18.280 -> 11:21.320] So then the moments after that is when you start to learn
[11:21.320 -> 11:24.600] and then, you know, kind of honing on your craft
[11:24.600 -> 11:27.640] and do the things you need to do to get better
[11:28.540 -> 11:30.440] and be the best version of yourself,
[11:30.440 -> 11:31.800] like I said earlier on.
[11:31.800 -> 11:35.120] And we have a lot of parents of young sports people,
[11:35.120 -> 11:35.960] lots of coaches,
[11:35.960 -> 11:39.600] lots of young sports people listening to this podcast.
[11:39.600 -> 11:41.440] It's brilliant to hear the great stuff you did.
[11:41.440 -> 11:44.040] What were the most common mistakes you saw around you
[11:44.040 -> 11:46.080] that people should be avoiding?
[11:46.080 -> 11:52.280] I think parents being hard on their kids for me is one of the things, you know, dad's shouting
[11:52.280 -> 11:59.240] on the sidelines and stuff like that. My parents, fortunately for me, weren't like that, you
[11:59.240 -> 12:06.940] know, but I think that's probably one of the things, being too hard on your kids. There's a difference between helping them
[12:06.940 -> 12:10.020] and giving them advice in a right way,
[12:10.020 -> 12:13.740] and also not shouting and all those types of things.
[12:13.740 -> 12:17.660] I think that can be a problem, in my opinion.
[12:17.660 -> 12:19.200] Some kids do need that.
[12:19.200 -> 12:21.100] You know, not everyone's the same,
[12:21.100 -> 12:26.800] but I find that it takes away some confidence sometimes and I think in
[12:26.800 -> 12:34.240] sports confidence is again probably the number one thing that separates being
[12:34.240 -> 12:38.840] good and being great. When you're confident in anything, supremely
[12:38.840 -> 12:46.240] confident in yourself, you excel to a level that sometimes you don't even know you can achieve.
[12:46.240 -> 12:48.200] So would you tell us then, Daniel,
[12:48.200 -> 12:50.880] how do you develop confidence?
[12:50.880 -> 12:53.920] And secondly, how do you protect confidence?
[12:53.920 -> 12:56.120] I think to develop confidence,
[12:56.120 -> 12:59.160] it's about taking baby steps in the right direction.
[12:59.160 -> 13:01.360] My mistakes I made was I wanted to make
[13:01.360 -> 13:03.720] significant jumps quickly,
[13:03.720 -> 13:05.920] because I learn things really fast. But the problem is I want to make significant jumps quickly because I learn things really fast.
[13:05.920 -> 13:11.400] But the problem is I want to make significant jumps quickly because I'm used to kind of,
[13:11.400 -> 13:15.400] you know, learning. So I could learn a game today and then probably in a couple of days
[13:15.400 -> 13:19.920] I'd be one of the best at playing that game. Or you could teach me something today and
[13:19.920 -> 13:25.960] then in a couple of hours I could be better than you at it. So that's how I was growing up
[13:25.960 -> 13:28.120] and still am today to be fair.
[13:28.120 -> 13:31.720] But I find that with confidence,
[13:31.720 -> 13:33.200] it's about taking baby steps,
[13:33.200 -> 13:35.100] giving yourself achievable goals.
[13:35.100 -> 13:36.800] And also when you do something
[13:36.800 -> 13:37.720] that you didn't think you can do,
[13:37.720 -> 13:39.220] you're like, oh my God, I did it.
[13:39.220 -> 13:40.680] And that gives you that boost.
[13:40.680 -> 13:45.000] And when you have confidence as well,
[13:45.000 -> 13:46.000] you can do anything you want to do.
[13:46.000 -> 13:49.000] When you don't have confidence in how to get it back,
[13:49.000 -> 13:50.000] that's the difficult part.
[13:50.000 -> 13:53.000] I've had a period of time where, for instance,
[13:53.000 -> 13:56.000] I was having a season where I was banging in the goals every,
[13:56.000 -> 13:59.000] you know, every other week I was scoring.
[13:59.000 -> 14:02.000] And my uncle Dean obviously has played the game professionally.
[14:02.000 -> 14:03.000] And he said to me, you know,
[14:03.000 -> 14:09.240] like you're going to probably go for a patch where you might not be scoring so frequently.
[14:09.240 -> 14:10.880] You know, Sadio Mane, for instance,
[14:10.880 -> 14:12.360] came out publicly and said, like,
[14:12.360 -> 14:14.520] I don't know what's going on.
[14:14.520 -> 14:16.840] Like, you know, I had to get my body checked out
[14:16.840 -> 14:17.660] and all these types of things.
[14:17.660 -> 14:20.600] Cause he wasn't sure as to why his performances
[14:20.600 -> 14:21.440] weren't going.
[14:21.440 -> 14:23.440] And sometimes it's just going through it.
[14:23.440 -> 14:25.960] Sometimes it's just continuing going on,
[14:25.960 -> 14:27.520] continuing doing your routine,
[14:27.520 -> 14:30.040] continuing and then it will change.
[14:30.040 -> 14:31.360] It's not necessarily about,
[14:31.360 -> 14:32.800] okay, I'm going to work extremely more.
[14:32.800 -> 14:34.000] I'm going to work harder now.
[14:34.000 -> 14:36.240] I'm going to do this now and I'm going to change.
[14:36.240 -> 14:38.000] What you've done has worked.
[14:38.000 -> 14:40.280] It's just about continuing to go on.
[14:40.280 -> 14:42.520] And maybe for me, you know,
[14:42.520 -> 14:46.200] I have a psychologist who I work with, I've been working with
[14:46.200 -> 14:47.760] for the last few months.
[14:47.760 -> 14:51.840] And I think that is something that athletes
[14:51.840 -> 14:53.600] don't tap into enough.
[14:53.600 -> 14:55.560] For me now, I'm in the best headspace possible.
[14:55.560 -> 14:58.080] Training's going great, body feels amazing,
[14:58.080 -> 14:59.800] feel on top of the world.
[14:59.800 -> 15:03.160] And I think if I had that in those difficult moments
[15:03.160 -> 15:06.280] when your confidence is low and you're feeling,
[15:06.280 -> 15:10.860] because you hear the same voices, friends, family, coaches,
[15:10.860 -> 15:12.860] but having an outside voice,
[15:12.860 -> 15:16.180] somebody else who wants to get to know the real you
[15:16.180 -> 15:19.260] from the inside, and you can tell them your demons,
[15:19.260 -> 15:20.460] you can tell them all the things
[15:20.460 -> 15:22.100] that are making you feel a certain way
[15:22.100 -> 15:23.900] and why you're going through this revolt,
[15:23.900 -> 15:27.920] you can come out the other side quicker than you would have if you did it on your own.
[15:27.920 -> 15:32.080] And when you sit and talk now, Daniel, you know, you've got obvious clarity of thought.
[15:32.080 -> 15:34.440] There's a real maturity to the things that you're saying.
[15:34.440 -> 15:35.720] You're sitting here as a father.
[15:35.720 -> 15:39.760] I think maybe the time you've had away from the game is probably actually a really good thing,
[15:39.760 -> 15:42.600] because you can take a step back and see what else is there.
[15:42.600 -> 15:44.680] And we'll talk about your future plans in a second.
[15:44.680 -> 15:47.320] But from being in a brilliant place,
[15:47.320 -> 15:49.800] can you take us to the most difficult place
[15:49.800 -> 15:53.320] and just really, in as honest a detail as possible,
[15:53.320 -> 15:56.760] explain how hard it can be to be in that place?
[15:56.760 -> 15:58.120] Because from the outside,
[15:58.120 -> 16:00.560] the life of a professional footballer looks nothing
[16:00.560 -> 16:02.480] but blissful, does it?
[16:02.480 -> 16:03.320] Absolutely.
[16:03.320 -> 16:06.960] I think we all know we're blessed as football players,
[16:06.960 -> 16:08.040] as athletes.
[16:08.040 -> 16:11.540] And I think sometimes we do take it for granted too,
[16:11.540 -> 16:14.680] because we're so obsessed with being successful and winning
[16:14.680 -> 16:16.560] and all these types of things.
[16:16.560 -> 16:18.680] You don't take into account and soak up the blessings.
[16:18.680 -> 16:20.320] You've actually like the position you're in like,
[16:20.320 -> 16:22.360] wow, I'm actually playing for this team.
[16:22.360 -> 16:26.060] Or wow, I just, you know, did this or we don't
[16:26.060 -> 16:32.960] have the same life concerns as that, you know, the people do that aren't in sports and earning
[16:32.960 -> 16:35.960] the kind of money that footballers earn.
[16:35.960 -> 16:41.720] So sometimes it's just about having gratitude and saying, you know what, I'm actually grateful
[16:41.720 -> 16:43.960] for where I am right now, where I am in life.
[16:43.960 -> 16:48.600] I'm grateful for, of course, I want to, I want to succeed. Of course, I want to be the best version of
[16:48.600 -> 16:54.640] myself. Of course, I want to win trophies and do all those things. But first and foremost,
[16:54.640 -> 16:58.480] be grateful and soak up the blessings because a lot of the times I never lived in the moment
[16:58.480 -> 17:07.240] of just feeling like, wow, I achieved something or I did something. I didn't really ever feel that way.
[17:07.240 -> 17:09.840] It was more a case of like, all right, cool.
[17:09.840 -> 17:13.720] Like, yeah, I scored a hat trick or yeah, I scored today.
[17:13.720 -> 17:15.480] Cool, who we got next week?
[17:15.480 -> 17:16.540] Let me watch the game.
[17:16.540 -> 17:17.480] Let me watch the videos.
[17:17.480 -> 17:19.240] Let me assess, let me analyze.
[17:19.240 -> 17:21.120] I can't believe I missed that chance.
[17:21.120 -> 17:22.560] Daniel, you scored two goals today.
[17:22.560 -> 17:24.920] Why are you worrying about the fourth and fifth
[17:24.920 -> 17:25.000] and sixth chance you've missed? Daniel, dyma ddwy golau heddiw. Beth ydych chi'n brofi am y chanllaw o'r cwm a chwm a chwe?
[17:25.000 -> 17:29.000] Felly mae'r ystyried o eisiau gwneud mwy
[17:29.000 -> 17:33.000] yn hytrach na bod yn ddysgu gyda'r hyn rydych chi wedi'i gael
[17:33.000 -> 17:36.000] a'r hyn rydych chi'n cael, yn rhaid i chi gweithio.
[17:36.000 -> 17:39.000] Felly, pa mor anodd yw hynny o fewn ddiwylliant
[17:39.000 -> 17:43.000] lle rydych chi'n ymdrechu'n gyfan ar y golau nesaf,
[17:43.000 -> 17:46.000] y targed nesaf, y pwysau'r cymdeithasau, y cyfrifoldeb o'r cymdeithasau, y cyfrifoldeb o'r cyfrifoldeb o'r cyfrifoldeb,
[17:46.000 -> 17:48.000] y cyfrifoldeb o'r cyfrifoldeb o'r cyfrifoldeb,
[17:48.000 -> 17:50.000] y cyfrifoldeb o'r cyfrifoldeb o'r cyfrifoldeb,
[17:50.000 -> 17:52.000] y cyfrifoldeb o'r cyfrifoldeb o'r cyfrifoldeb,
[17:52.000 -> 17:54.000] y cyfrifoldeb o'r cyfrifoldeb o'r cyfrifoldeb,
[17:54.000 -> 17:56.000] y cyfrifoldeb o'r cyfrifoldeb o'r cyfrifoldeb,
[17:56.000 -> 17:58.000] y cyfrifoldeb o'r cyfrifoldeb o'r cyfrifoldeb,
[17:58.000 -> 18:00.000] y cyfrifoldeb o'r cyfrifoldeb o'r cyfrifoldeb,
[18:00.000 -> 18:02.000] y cyfrifoldeb o'r cyfrifoldeb o'r cyfrifoldeb,
[18:02.000 -> 18:04.000] y cyfrifoldeb o'r cyfrifoldeb o'r cyfrifoldeb,
[18:04.000 -> 18:07.320] y cyfrifoldeb o'r cyfrifoldeb o'r cyfrifoldeb, y cyfrifoldeb o'r cyfrifoldeb o'r cyfrifoldeb, as I said, for me, when I've had this year off, so I've been able to analyse, I've been able to look back,
[18:07.320 -> 18:09.680] I've been able to watch games,
[18:09.680 -> 18:13.960] feel things that I've not felt when I'm playing,
[18:13.960 -> 18:17.640] because when you're playing, I was consumed by football,
[18:17.640 -> 18:20.040] you know, everything, lived it, breathed it,
[18:20.040 -> 18:21.720] everything was centred around football.
[18:21.720 -> 18:27.000] All my conversations I had with people, my family, because they're a footballing family,
[18:27.000 -> 18:28.280] everyone's obsessed with football.
[18:28.280 -> 18:32.040] So conversations, we'd be meeting up for a domino night
[18:32.040 -> 18:34.000] and we're talking about footy,
[18:34.000 -> 18:35.400] we're talking about this, we're talking about that.
[18:35.400 -> 18:37.800] So sometimes it's about like the same goals,
[18:37.800 -> 18:38.960] put the ball away.
[18:38.960 -> 18:41.840] And yes, you can savor things,
[18:41.840 -> 18:43.120] but sometimes put the ball away
[18:43.120 -> 18:46.680] and let your mind just relax sometimes.
[18:46.680 -> 18:49.600] But that obsession and that relentlessness,
[18:49.600 -> 18:52.880] I have that and I know that when I'm back playing,
[18:52.880 -> 18:54.440] it's going to come back.
[18:54.440 -> 18:55.980] But because I've had this year off now,
[18:55.980 -> 19:00.720] I know that I can manage my mindset better in that,
[19:00.720 -> 19:03.120] you know what, I've scored, savour the moment today,
[19:03.120 -> 19:08.520] enjoy today, and then we'll continue going this week. You don't dwell on the moments, of course you don't.
[19:08.520 -> 19:13.400] You don't think, okay, we've won a Champions League, lads, we're going to celebrate this
[19:13.400 -> 19:17.860] until and we're going to walk around saying we're the champions until the next people
[19:17.860 -> 19:21.520] win it. I know that the fans say that, like, yeah, we're champions of Europe and they'll
[19:21.520 -> 19:25.160] say that we're still champions of Europe, but as a player, you don't feel like that.
[19:25.160 -> 19:27.080] You know that, you know what?
[19:27.080 -> 19:28.600] That was last year.
[19:28.600 -> 19:32.120] This season, nobody's name's written on the trophy.
[19:32.120 -> 19:36.480] That relentlessness, that obsession, it never goes away.
[19:36.480 -> 19:39.800] But I think that what you're talking about there,
[19:39.800 -> 19:41.440] although it's difficult when you reflect,
[19:41.440 -> 19:43.640] it's also the reason that you were so successful.
[19:43.640 -> 19:45.880] You know, I remember working with David Coulthard
[19:45.880 -> 19:48.200] when I first started my broadcast career in Formula 1
[19:48.200 -> 19:50.280] and we were watching the driver on the podium.
[19:50.280 -> 19:51.940] I said, man, that must feel amazing.
[19:51.940 -> 19:52.780] And he looked at me and he said,
[19:52.780 -> 19:56.380] son, what you need to understand is when I crash a car,
[19:56.380 -> 19:57.520] I don't go low.
[19:57.520 -> 19:59.200] When I win a race, I don't go high.
[19:59.200 -> 20:00.940] I'm flat lined the whole time.
[20:00.940 -> 20:02.800] It's just about winning.
[20:02.800 -> 20:04.680] We speak to Rio Ferdinand on this podcast.
[20:04.680 -> 20:05.280] And he said to us,
[20:05.280 -> 20:09.520] exactly like you, he said, if I could do one thing, it would be to have my whole career again
[20:10.080 -> 20:14.080] and just stand on the edge sometimes and watch those moments of success because it was always
[20:14.080 -> 20:18.800] about the next thing. I just think that it's lovely to imagine that you could have done that,
[20:18.800 -> 20:22.160] but I don't think that you would have been winning Premier Leagues and Champions Leagues if you had,
[20:22.160 -> 20:25.640] is that fair? Yeah, I think it's fair to say that.
[20:25.640 -> 20:29.000] I think the mentality of elite athletes
[20:29.000 -> 20:31.760] is you want to keep winning.
[20:31.760 -> 20:34.040] You don't want to lose at anything.
[20:34.040 -> 20:36.500] I don't want to be around people that like losing.
[20:36.500 -> 20:40.000] I say if I'm playing Monopoly, it's not fun.
[20:40.000 -> 20:41.400] I want to win.
[20:41.400 -> 20:43.400] I always want to be the best version of myself
[20:43.400 -> 20:47.000] and the best I can be. Yeah, I don't think that feeling will ever go, Dwi eisiau gynnal y gynllun fwyaf o fy hun ac y gynllun fwyaf o fy hun. Ie, dwi ddim yn credu bod y teimlad hwn yn mynd,
[20:47.000 -> 20:48.640] er mwyn i mi fod yn gynnar,
[20:48.640 -> 20:50.800] a dwi'n chwarae dominoes,
[20:50.800 -> 20:53.360] a dwi'n chwarae Blackjack gyda'r dynion,
[20:53.360 -> 20:55.160] a'r cardiau neu beth bynnag.
[20:55.160 -> 20:57.400] Dwi'n byth yn mynd i gynnal gynnal.
[20:57.400 -> 21:00.400] Ond pa gwybodaeth yw eich bod chi wedi dysgu, Daniel,
[21:00.400 -> 21:02.720] o'r psychologaidd rydych chi wedi gweithio gyda nhw,
[21:02.720 -> 21:04.720] a o'r blwyddyn hwn,
[21:04.720 -> 21:05.040] a fyddai'n gallu i chi ddod o'r psihologaidd rydych chi wedi gweithio gyda a o'r blwyddyn hwn,
[21:05.040 -> 21:12.000] a byddai'n gallu i chi ddod o'r rhan fawr hwn o ran gael yr amlwg i ddod o'r rhan fawr
[21:12.000 -> 21:18.160] ond yn yr un ffordd mae'r meddwl i gael y pethau sydd ar gael i chi.
[21:18.160 -> 21:27.480] Pa fath o ddechnigau wnaethoch chi ddysgu a oedd yn helpu chi i ddod o'r rhan fawr hwn? have you learned that had helped you to walk that fine line? I mean, firstly, it's about healing first.
[21:27.480 -> 21:30.000] You know, you have to be totally transparent and honest.
[21:30.000 -> 21:32.500] You know, I've shed tears to be transparent with you guys.
[21:32.500 -> 21:33.700] I've shed tears.
[21:33.700 -> 21:38.700] I've been able to go through all of the things
[21:39.180 -> 21:41.340] that have bothered me throughout my career
[21:41.340 -> 21:43.160] and in early life.
[21:43.160 -> 21:46.640] And I think also the values you have as a kid
[21:46.640 -> 21:49.420] is technically what shapes you as you go older.
[21:49.420 -> 21:51.480] The only time they change is when you have,
[21:51.480 -> 21:54.480] when you experience new things and you're around
[21:54.480 -> 21:58.840] smarter people than you, or you're in places
[21:58.840 -> 22:02.800] where people have a different perspective than you have.
[22:02.800 -> 22:04.400] And it might not even be that they're educated.
[22:04.400 -> 22:07.040] It might be a baby or a child that does something.
[22:07.040 -> 22:10.000] You're like, oh, I never thought that.
[22:10.000 -> 22:11.920] Like I never looked at it like that.
[22:11.920 -> 22:13.600] Cause they just say things as they see it.
[22:13.600 -> 22:15.160] You know, kids do, they just speak their mind
[22:15.160 -> 22:16.000] and say it as it is.
[22:16.000 -> 22:19.560] So I think it can be difficult as an athlete
[22:19.560 -> 22:20.900] when you don't have a psychologist
[22:20.900 -> 22:24.520] because you're going through so much.
[22:24.520 -> 22:26.780] And as I said you hear
[22:26.780 -> 22:31.400] the same voices, you hear your parents or you hear... and then it becomes the same
[22:31.400 -> 22:35.960] message that you've heard maybe 50 times but when you've got somebody else you
[22:35.960 -> 22:41.000] know who wants to get to know you and then you can do the stuff where they
[22:41.000 -> 22:46.400] are fueling performance. So it's hard to explain it,
[22:46.400 -> 22:48.440] but the feeling you get inside
[22:48.440 -> 22:50.000] is what you get when you lift the trophies.
[22:50.000 -> 22:51.920] The feeling you get when you score a goal,
[22:51.920 -> 22:53.800] you get that replication,
[22:53.800 -> 22:56.080] you feel that joy, you feel that energy,
[22:56.080 -> 22:57.940] you feel that moment.
[22:57.940 -> 23:01.720] And then your brain kind of gets to a motion
[23:01.720 -> 23:04.800] where you can do the things you've done before.
[23:04.800 -> 23:09.400] Things start to come back to me now so much more easier than they were because your mind
[23:09.400 -> 23:11.000] is just full of clarity.
[23:11.000 -> 23:15.360] There's no gray areas, there's no clouds within your mind, within your decision making, within
[23:15.360 -> 23:16.360] whatever.
[23:16.360 -> 23:17.640] You've just got clarity.
[23:17.640 -> 23:22.280] When you've got clarity, you're operating at a place of stillness and you can make decisions
[23:22.280 -> 23:28.960] and do things and train free and lift more and run faster and all those types of things. ymdrechion, a gallwch wneud penderfyniadau a wneud pethau a hyfforddi'n ddi-ddiogel, a chymryd mwy, a chymryd yn fwy gyflym, ac
[23:28.960 -> 23:32.320] y rhai pethau hynny, felly dyna beth sydd wedi'i wneud i mi.
[23:32.320 -> 23:37.760] Felly mae cyfathrebu'n dod o gofyn cwestiynau da. Felly beth yw'r math o gwestiynau y byddwch chi ar hyn o bryd yn gofyn
[23:37.760 -> 23:42.240] eich hun, a byddwch chi ddim yn ychydig neu ddeg mlynedd yn ôl?
[23:42.240 -> 23:48.680] Wel, rwy'n credu, before I made the first team, for instance,
[23:48.680 -> 23:51.880] I had my goals, I had my dreams, and
[23:52.320 -> 23:57.720] I wanted to be, you know, a player who could get into the first team, could play games,
[23:58.080 -> 24:03.960] and all those types of things. And then as time goes on, you start to realize that, okay,
[24:04.200 -> 24:06.560] the difficult part is navigating your way
[24:06.560 -> 24:07.760] through the peaks and the troughs,
[24:07.760 -> 24:11.320] like to navigate your way through all these things.
[24:11.320 -> 24:13.200] That's the hardest part.
[24:13.200 -> 24:17.880] So I don't think I've always had clarity.
[24:17.880 -> 24:22.880] I've not always had a clear train of thought
[24:22.880 -> 24:24.440] because as I said, I've been consumed by it
[24:24.440 -> 24:25.000] or whatever it may be.
[24:25.000 -> 24:32.000] And now I'm in a place where I can sort of just look at things for what they are,
[24:32.000 -> 24:38.000] hold myself accountable. For me, I need positivity around me. That's key.
[24:38.000 -> 24:41.000] You know, when people are feeding you positive thoughts and positive energy
[24:41.000 -> 24:44.000] and you're moving positively and you're giving them that,
[24:44.000 -> 24:49.000] you're always going to be the best version of yourself because you feel like
[24:49.000 -> 24:50.000] your shoulders are broad.
[24:50.000 -> 24:52.440] You feel like, yeah, I feel great.
[24:52.440 -> 24:57.800] When you've got negativity around you, you kind of feel like, oh man, you don't notice
[24:57.800 -> 25:00.000] it but your body feels it.
[25:00.000 -> 25:07.160] And then also the process of getting where you want to go, it doesn't happen overnight.
[25:07.160 -> 25:10.680] And like I said, when I was younger, I had to respect the process.
[25:10.680 -> 25:12.120] I had to wait my turn.
[25:12.120 -> 25:18.080] I had to work extra hard to do the things I wasn't good at.
[25:18.080 -> 25:31.440] I had an operation when I was really young, when I was 18. And I cried at home, I remember crying at home and I was like, I don't know if I'm going
[25:31.440 -> 25:32.880] to make it to my mom and dad.
[25:32.880 -> 25:34.440] I was upstairs, I was crying.
[25:34.440 -> 25:38.720] I was like, man, I had this operation, I don't know if I'm going to make it.
[25:38.720 -> 25:40.520] I can remember that moment vividly.
[25:40.520 -> 25:46.700] And then I think it was a year, it was probably six months after I had the operation, I played
[25:46.700 -> 25:50.720] my first game back, played the youth cup, I scored a hat-trick.
[25:50.720 -> 25:56.480] After that game, I actually came on for the first team, scored in the FA Cup on the Saturday
[25:56.480 -> 26:00.240] and then on the Tuesday, I think it was the Tuesday or Wednesday, we played Derby away
[26:00.240 -> 26:02.260] and I scored in the Premier League.
[26:02.260 -> 26:05.280] I look back now and I'm saying I'm proud of myself as
[26:05.280 -> 26:12.560] that kid who didn't even think he'd come out on the other side of the operation to be able to do
[26:12.560 -> 26:18.160] what I've done. So I'm actually proud. You know what I love about that story, Daniel, is that
[26:18.160 -> 26:24.640] you've gone from fearing your career is over to scoring in a youth game, to scoring in the
[26:24.640 -> 26:27.720] NFL Cup, to scoring in the Premier League, and that is from the lowest
[26:27.720 -> 26:31.240] lows to the highest highs in a matter of days. And what's interesting
[26:31.240 -> 26:35.800] is, when you're a young footballer, people talk about, oh, can he finish?
[26:35.880 -> 26:39.160] Has he got pace? Has he got awareness on the pitch? Has he got that
[26:39.160 -> 26:42.840] natural movement you look for from a footballer? Nobody says, has he
[26:42.840 -> 26:45.200] got the mental dexterity to deal
[26:45.200 -> 26:47.940] with a crushing blow followed by an incredible high?
[26:47.940 -> 26:49.240] And I think that is the conversation
[26:49.240 -> 26:50.440] we need to be having now,
[26:50.440 -> 26:53.160] is are we doing enough to equip young people
[26:53.160 -> 26:55.600] as you were as a teenager at that point
[26:55.600 -> 26:56.760] to deal with that sort of stuff?
[26:56.760 -> 27:00.160] So how hard were the hard moments in your career?
[27:00.160 -> 27:02.560] Can you take us possibly to a period
[27:02.560 -> 27:04.960] where it was really difficult?
[27:04.960 -> 27:05.000] I mean, yeah, I'd probably say I went, your career. Can you take us possibly to a period where it was really difficult?
[27:05.000 -> 27:14.700] I mean, yeah, I'd probably say I had a season where I bagged, you know, 24 goals and feeling the highest of the highs.
[27:14.700 -> 27:23.700] Suarez had just left Liverpool, you know, and I was pretty much at that point in time considered, you know, potentially the main man.
[27:23.700 -> 27:25.440] Me, you know, there was a couple of other players, but as far as centre forward's gone, I was the main man. There was a couple of other players,
[27:25.440 -> 27:30.120] but as far as set and forwards go, I was the main man at the time. Started the season well,
[27:30.120 -> 27:35.440] bagged first game thinking, yeah, Southampton, we beat them. Scored with 20 minutes to go,
[27:35.440 -> 27:41.720] feeling myself buzzing and then picked up a couple of injuries. And when I picked up
[27:41.720 -> 27:45.400] those injuries, that was the lowest moment for me.
[27:45.400 -> 27:47.400] That was the hardest mental task for me
[27:47.400 -> 27:49.360] because I felt like that was the moment that,
[27:49.360 -> 27:52.200] all right, cool, this is my real coming out party.
[27:52.200 -> 27:55.560] This is, you know, I've scored 24 goals last season.
[27:55.560 -> 27:57.840] I was runner up to Hazard in young player.
[27:57.840 -> 27:59.760] I don't know how I didn't win that to be fair,
[27:59.760 -> 28:02.960] but that's another story.
[28:02.960 -> 28:07.120] But for me, that was difficult to deal with.
[28:07.120 -> 28:11.560] But I also knew that in those moments,
[28:11.560 -> 28:13.560] I started to adopt a different mentality.
[28:13.560 -> 28:15.880] And I was like, actually, you know what?
[28:15.880 -> 28:18.040] I need to not even think of myself as a footballer.
[28:18.040 -> 28:20.240] Like I have to think of myself as an athlete.
[28:20.240 -> 28:21.800] Yeah, I've got to come back,
[28:21.800 -> 28:26.640] but I need to also think of myself as, I'm not a footballer because
[28:26.640 -> 28:32.240] I'm not actually playing football. So I need to think of myself as an athlete. So I started
[28:32.240 -> 28:39.640] speaking to my friend, she's a sprinter for Team GB, spoke to her about some stuff, was
[28:39.640 -> 28:46.300] doing some boxing stuff, started doing other things that would also help me to feel like I was achieving
[28:46.300 -> 28:49.320] because that feeling of feeling like achievement
[28:49.320 -> 28:50.880] and that feeling of pushing yourself
[28:50.880 -> 28:53.240] is comes in different places.
[28:53.240 -> 28:55.640] And at that moment, I couldn't get that from football
[28:55.640 -> 28:59.640] because I had an injury and I was like, man,
[28:59.640 -> 29:03.000] this season's not gone the way I wanted it to go for me.
[29:03.000 -> 29:09.280] I've gone from scoring 24 goals to picking up injuries and working my ass off to get back.
[29:09.280 -> 29:11.400] And then something else would happen.
[29:11.400 -> 29:14.680] And I'd be like, geez, man, what can I do?
[29:14.680 -> 29:16.780] And I think if at that moment I had a psychologist,
[29:16.780 -> 29:19.880] maybe I would have dealt with it differently.
[29:19.880 -> 29:23.120] Cause in myself, I was a load of the snake's belly,
[29:23.120 -> 29:27.280] you know, tearing up at home, crying at the house, feeling like I failed.
[29:27.280 -> 29:31.920] And then I came back next season, club came in, we got to the Europa League final, scored
[29:31.920 -> 29:32.920] in the final.
[29:32.920 -> 29:33.920] Unfortunately, we lost.
[29:33.920 -> 29:35.600] I had a good season.
[29:35.600 -> 29:38.160] I think I finished top scorer for the team.
[29:38.160 -> 29:41.400] And even then, I didn't feel like I achieved anything.
[29:41.400 -> 29:44.400] So I think you always want more from yourself.
[29:44.400 -> 29:45.880] I'm never content.
[29:45.880 -> 29:47.600] My psychologist says,
[29:47.600 -> 29:48.880] do you think you've been operating
[29:48.880 -> 29:50.800] from the fight or flight mode?
[29:50.800 -> 29:52.840] And I went, what do you mean by that?
[29:52.840 -> 29:56.280] And he went, well, you know, have you felt stillness
[29:56.280 -> 29:59.040] or do you feel like you've been in fight or flight?
[29:59.040 -> 30:01.000] So then we started going into the past
[30:01.000 -> 30:03.560] and all the things that happened as a kid
[30:03.560 -> 30:04.400] and so on and so forth.
[30:04.400 -> 30:06.080] And then you get to a point where you're like,
[30:06.080 -> 30:07.640] oh yeah, maybe I was, you know,
[30:07.640 -> 30:10.480] maybe fight or flight is feeling
[30:10.480 -> 30:11.320] like you can't do something
[30:11.320 -> 30:13.120] so you really, really want to do it.
[30:13.120 -> 30:16.960] Or feeling like your back's against the wall
[30:16.960 -> 30:18.920] and you've got to punch your way out.
[30:18.920 -> 30:20.160] Can you give us an example of what,
[30:20.160 -> 30:23.320] of how that emerged in your career?
[30:23.320 -> 30:25.720] So I think the fight or flight might be, for instance,
[30:25.720 -> 30:28.760] you're not playing every week, for instance,
[30:28.760 -> 30:31.880] and you start thinking, the gaffer's not having me.
[30:31.880 -> 30:34.480] And it's like, nah, the gaffer might actually be having you,
[30:34.480 -> 30:36.640] but you just need to do something different.
[30:36.640 -> 30:38.920] Like, simple as that.
[30:38.920 -> 30:41.720] You know, it could be you're in a workplace
[30:41.720 -> 30:43.720] and this applies to everyone.
[30:43.720 -> 30:45.400] You're in a workplace and this applies to everyone, you're in a workplace and the
[30:45.400 -> 30:51.040] manager don't feel like he appreciates me or someone else is doing better than you in
[30:51.040 -> 30:56.160] your workplace and you're thinking if they're doing that then if I be more like them then
[30:56.160 -> 31:01.280] maybe I'll be better and then like you're not. I've always wanted to play, I've always
[31:01.280 -> 31:11.360] wanted to win, I've always wanted to win, I've always wanted to score. And sometimes it's just about being the best person you can be, whether that be best teammate, best
[31:11.360 -> 31:18.760] dad, best mum, best co-worker at work, best teacher at school, and being the best version
[31:18.760 -> 31:29.560] of yourself, irrelevant of whether you're playing or not, be the best version of yourself. And it's not about thinking, whoa, me, or whatever,
[31:29.560 -> 31:31.600] like that, it's more about, you know what?
[31:31.600 -> 31:34.560] I'll do this and I'll persevere and I'll get there
[31:34.560 -> 31:37.560] and I'll be the best I can be for everybody else.
[31:37.560 -> 31:39.120] If I'm not getting out of this,
[31:39.120 -> 31:41.080] what I want to get out of this.
[31:41.080 -> 31:43.240] What I think is really interesting about this, Daniel,
[31:43.240 -> 31:46.880] is that people watch you from the outside thinking
[31:46.880 -> 31:48.360] everything's fine.
[31:48.360 -> 31:51.480] They don't realise what actually goes on in the mind
[31:51.480 -> 31:52.320] of an athlete.
[31:52.320 -> 31:55.920] How difficult is that when you live a life where people
[31:55.920 -> 31:59.240] are creating their preconceptions or their opinion of you
[31:59.240 -> 32:00.840] based on very little information?
[32:00.840 -> 32:01.880] Did that bother you?
[32:01.880 -> 32:03.360] Absolutely.
[32:03.360 -> 32:05.700] I mean, I remember there was one time when I was on the bench
[32:05.700 -> 32:08.980] and like, I'm a straight faced guy, you know,
[32:08.980 -> 32:11.980] my, I smile, everybody who knows me knows
[32:11.980 -> 32:15.460] I'm a, I'm a laughy jokey character, similar to Micah.
[32:15.460 -> 32:17.100] Micah is one of my best friends.
[32:17.100 -> 32:20.260] And how you see Micah on television is how me and him are
[32:20.260 -> 32:21.860] every single day when we're together.
[32:21.860 -> 32:23.620] We just banter, we laugh, we joke.
[32:23.620 -> 32:29.320] That's how I am as a person. But if I'm walking down the street or if I'm sat down somewhere, I'm
[32:29.320 -> 32:32.920] generally going to be straight faced and I'm not going to be smiling and it may look like
[32:32.920 -> 32:37.160] I'm angry. So I remember seeing something where it was like, oh, he's angry because
[32:37.160 -> 32:42.560] he's not playing or these things. And I was like, I was just sat there and my face was
[32:42.560 -> 32:45.840] straight. Like I don't get, do they want me to smile?
[32:45.840 -> 32:47.040] Do they want me to be bantering
[32:47.040 -> 32:48.820] with my teammates on the bench?
[32:48.820 -> 32:50.920] Like, do they want me to be happy I'm sat on the bench?
[32:50.920 -> 32:54.760] I don't, I wasn't sure like how to take it.
[32:54.760 -> 32:56.320] So then I was like, okay, so if I,
[32:56.320 -> 32:58.720] if I laugh and joke now, do they, you know?
[32:58.720 -> 33:01.760] So it's kind of like, you can't please everyone.
[33:01.760 -> 33:05.920] And that's one thing I will say is that preconceptions,
[33:05.920 -> 33:08.280] a lot of the time are misconceptions
[33:08.280 -> 33:13.160] and people don't know athletes personally.
[33:13.160 -> 33:15.720] And a lot of people have never met them.
[33:15.720 -> 33:18.600] I always say when people meet me,
[33:18.600 -> 33:20.800] they know I'm a really good person
[33:20.800 -> 33:24.120] and I have a great heart and I'm kind, I'm caring.
[33:24.120 -> 33:28.000] Of course, there's times when the press may have asked me for an interview
[33:28.000 -> 33:31.000] and I've not played or I've had a bad game and I'm like,
[33:31.000 -> 33:34.000] I ain't even looking at them and my headphones are on and I'm walking.
[33:34.000 -> 33:37.000] I don't want to do it. I don't want to speak to the press.
[33:37.000 -> 33:41.000] And it's nothing personal. I think sometimes the press in the past
[33:41.000 -> 33:45.200] may have took things personally, not just from me too, from many players,
[33:45.200 -> 33:50.800] but it's that thing where as a footballer, you're so consumed by yourself and your own thoughts
[33:50.800 -> 33:54.200] that you don't think, you know what, this reporter's got a job to do, you know.
[33:54.200 -> 33:59.000] I actually might have to have a chat with him and give him his five minutes.
[33:59.000 -> 34:05.440] See, there's your clarity of thought again, after your period of reflection and your conversations.
[34:05.440 -> 34:09.840] You know what? There's a real sense here that when you started playing football, Daniel,
[34:09.840 -> 34:13.120] you had a real freedom, yeah, and you just played it because you loved the game.
[34:14.000 -> 34:18.080] Now, with everything you've done over the last 18 months, there's a real freedom again. I wonder
[34:18.080 -> 34:21.760] whether in the middle, when you are right in the eye of the storm of your football career,
[34:22.320 -> 34:25.360] whether you lost that freedom. Absolutely.
[34:25.360 -> 34:27.240] I'm an instinctive person, you know,
[34:27.240 -> 34:30.400] I play off instinct and I went through a period
[34:30.400 -> 34:34.240] when I didn't, I lost that and I didn't have that feeling.
[34:34.240 -> 34:36.720] And it's back now, it's been back for the last six months
[34:36.720 -> 34:39.600] where everything I do,
[34:40.580 -> 34:43.720] most like positive things are coming to me
[34:43.720 -> 34:45.980] because I'm operating from this place. All the things I've wanted to things are coming to me because I'm operating from this place.
[34:45.980 -> 34:48.080] All the things I've wanted to achieve
[34:48.080 -> 34:50.960] are coming to fruition because of where I'm at,
[34:50.960 -> 34:53.520] because I've cleared away the rubble,
[34:53.520 -> 34:55.160] which is what the psychologist calls it,
[34:55.160 -> 34:57.240] clearing away the rubble, clear away,
[34:57.240 -> 34:59.560] and operate from that sense of clarity
[34:59.560 -> 35:01.720] and that freedom, as you say,
[35:01.720 -> 35:04.600] that instinctiveness is what drove me.
[35:04.600 -> 35:05.520] I remember sometimes I used
[35:05.520 -> 35:09.400] to score goals and I didn't even know how I scored. And I was like, I had to watch a
[35:09.400 -> 35:13.960] video back and be like, wait, what happened? Because it was literally just instinct. And
[35:13.960 -> 35:22.040] I think when you lose that, the gut is the real mind. That's the thing that really gives
[35:22.040 -> 35:25.620] you the information that you need. Sorry about my dog, by the way, he's miles off.
[35:25.620 -> 35:26.460] I don't know about him.
[35:26.460 -> 35:27.280] No worries.
[35:27.280 -> 35:28.120] No worries.
[35:28.120 -> 35:30.000] Is that the dog that got stolen?
[35:30.000 -> 35:31.920] Yeah, he's back where he belongs.
[35:31.920 -> 35:32.760] Yeah, we got him.
[35:32.760 -> 35:33.580] I love that.
[35:33.580 -> 35:34.880] Let that dog bark all he likes in your house.
[35:34.880 -> 35:36.360] Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
[35:36.360 -> 35:37.580] Exactly, yeah.
[35:37.580 -> 35:38.420] We got him back.
[35:38.420 -> 35:39.800] That was a difficult time too.
[35:39.800 -> 35:41.800] We got him back in 24 hours, to be fair,
[35:41.800 -> 35:44.320] but back to the instinctive thing.
[35:44.320 -> 35:45.480] I think for me,
[35:46.320 -> 35:51.320] the gut is where I operate at my purest and clearest form.
[35:52.120 -> 35:54.740] The mind, because it's been,
[35:55.660 -> 35:58.020] it's gone through so many different things.
[35:58.020 -> 36:02.360] You're operating from a place of almost
[36:02.360 -> 36:04.560] overthinking things.
[36:04.560 -> 36:06.440] Your gut's just saying, do this.
[36:07.440 -> 36:09.520] And then your mind's like,
[36:09.520 -> 36:11.480] should I really do that?
[36:11.480 -> 36:12.720] I don't know.
[36:12.720 -> 36:13.880] Sometimes you get that feeling
[36:13.880 -> 36:15.640] where you feel a sense of danger
[36:15.640 -> 36:17.240] and you ever get that feeling
[36:17.240 -> 36:18.280] when you feel a sense of danger
[36:18.280 -> 36:19.480] and then your body feels weird
[36:19.480 -> 36:20.320] and you're like,
[36:20.320 -> 36:22.000] ooh, why do I feel like this?
[36:22.000 -> 36:26.780] That feeling is your gut telling you danger might happen.
[36:26.780 -> 36:28.920] People don't trust their gut enough.
[36:28.920 -> 36:34.040] And I think the most successful people, their gut is what gives them the purest form and
[36:34.040 -> 36:38.440] the art form of making the decisions that make the most sense for them.
[36:38.440 -> 36:42.600] Because they know truly what they want, but the mind sometimes tricks them and makes them
[36:42.600 -> 36:44.600] think, I'm not sure that's what I want.
[36:44.600 -> 36:45.200] I'm not sure. But, you'm not sure that's what I want. I'm not sure.
[36:45.200 -> 36:47.320] But, you know, I know now what I want.
[36:47.320 -> 36:49.800] My instinct's back, my gut's back, that freedom's back,
[36:49.800 -> 36:51.560] like you said, Jake.
[36:51.560 -> 36:53.280] So I'm in a positive place, man.
[36:53.280 -> 36:54.320] I can't ask for any more.
[36:54.320 -> 36:55.520] I'm grateful, honestly.
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[40:08.720 -> 40:09.920] Felly, dweud wrthym, Daniel,
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[40:13.680 -> 40:16.160] yn y ffotbol.
[40:16.160 -> 40:19.160] Felly, beth y byddwch chi'n ei roi i'r gweithwyr yma
[40:19.160 -> 40:23.400] o ran sut y gallant eich rhannu i mewn i strwythur a system,
[40:23.400 -> 40:29.080] ond yn dal i garu'r ystyr y dywedwch chi pan ydych chi'n eich cymhwyster.
[40:29.080 -> 40:30.960] Yn y bobl fwyaf o'r coaches rydw i wedi gweithio gyda,
[40:30.960 -> 40:32.960] roeddwn i'n cael hynny, i fod yn ddiogel.
[40:32.960 -> 40:35.320] Mae'n ymwneud â'r cas o,
[40:35.320 -> 40:37.360] pan ydych chi'n chwarae o ystyr,
[40:37.360 -> 40:39.760] wrth gwrs, mae angen i chi fod yn ymwybodol tactig,
[40:39.760 -> 40:41.760] felly nid yw'n unig am ymwneud â chadw o ran,
[40:41.760 -> 40:44.080] a chadw o ran fel yw'r be,
[40:44.080 -> 40:45.960] a, wyt ti'n gwybod, fel yw'n ymwneud â fflwrio o ran, a dim ond mynd i bob le. Y rhaglen nesaf yw'r rhan fwrwyn o'r tîm. It's not just about walking around and running around like a bee and flying around and just
[40:45.960 -> 40:46.960] going everywhere.
[40:46.960 -> 40:49.360] Rule number one is team framework.
[40:49.360 -> 40:50.360] It's not about you.
[40:50.360 -> 40:51.520] How's the team going to win?
[40:51.520 -> 40:55.960] And when you play with certain coaches, you kind of understand, like, okay, this guy,
[40:55.960 -> 41:01.400] his abilities are different, so we're going to let him be his best version of himself.
[41:01.400 -> 41:08.240] If I can dribble very well and I'm quick and I'm these types of things, like I would like the coach to allow me to do that. But of course, if he says, you know
[41:08.240 -> 41:12.160] what, we want you to hold the ball up or we want you to press high or we want you to do
[41:12.160 -> 41:16.720] this, that's the trade off that you have to have. So I learned a lot tactically when I
[41:16.720 -> 41:21.240] went to Chelsea from Ancelotti. I was operating from the wing, which wasn't my natural position
[41:21.240 -> 41:28.720] at the time. So I had to learn that as well. And that is what made me use my right foot more.
[41:28.720 -> 41:31.760] Funnily enough, I learned to use my right foot
[41:31.760 -> 41:34.320] and I learned specific skill sets
[41:34.320 -> 41:37.200] to allow me to be a better player in the Premier League,
[41:37.200 -> 41:39.320] which is, it's, some people may say,
[41:39.320 -> 41:41.240] oh, I've got to learn all these things before I get there,
[41:41.240 -> 41:42.720] but you learn as you go.
[41:42.720 -> 41:45.480] You know, you have to tweak things as you move on.
[41:45.960 -> 41:50.040] So I think for coaches and working with me now,
[41:50.360 -> 41:54.520] I'm at a place of flexibility where I feel like I've learnt so much not playing football.
[41:54.960 -> 41:59.400] I think the game is going to be easier for me now because I'm operating from a sense of clarity
[41:59.400 -> 42:04.960] and freedom, but also I've learnt so much about different styles of play,
[42:04.960 -> 42:08.320] about little things which maybe I wouldn't have watched as many games because I just wanted to put the ball away. Ond hefyd rwy'n dysgu mor o bwysig am wahanol styliau chwarae, am pethau mawr, y gallai ddim wedi gwylio cyfansodd o gampau,
[42:08.320 -> 42:09.680] oherwydd roeddwn i eisiau rhoi'r ball i mewn,
[42:09.680 -> 42:12.360] felly dydw i ddim yn gwylio campau chwarae y ffotbol ar y teledd,
[42:12.360 -> 42:13.720] neu beth bynnag y gallai.
[42:13.720 -> 42:16.120] Ond nawr rwy'n gwylio pob peth, rwy'n gwylio pob gamp,
[42:16.120 -> 42:19.200] pob un, rwy'n ceisio dysgu mwy na'n gallu.
[42:19.200 -> 42:21.680] Felly, pa ffwrdd byddwch chi'n dweud oedd gennych chi'r wella o chi yna,
[42:21.680 -> 42:23.000] a pam?
[42:23.000 -> 42:24.840] Roedd Brendan yn dda iawn i mi,
[42:24.840 -> 42:28.000] ac Andre Villas-Boas yn ddau.
[42:28.000 -> 42:36.000] Dweud bod Stuart Pearce yn dda i mi, ond roedd yn fath o ffigur,
[42:36.000 -> 42:40.000] roedd yn gyd wrthi wrthi wrthi wrthi, a roedd yn rhoi bob cyfle i mi,
[42:40.000 -> 42:46.600] roedd yn rhoi i mi fy nhaf o'r Llyfrgell Cyhoeddus, roedd yn rhoi i mi fy nhaf o Lloegr, that I gave him my Premier League debut, gave me my England debut, I went to the Olympics
[42:46.600 -> 42:53.840] with him, under-21s manager. He just knew how to speak to me to get the best out of
[42:53.840 -> 42:54.840] me.
[42:54.840 -> 42:57.880] The way Brendan used to manage me, it got the best out of me, but it was a different
[42:57.880 -> 43:02.280] style to Stuart Pearce. So Brendan's style would be, for instance, I would feel like
[43:02.280 -> 43:07.560] going a half-time and I feel like I played played alright in the first half, like I didn't score or whatever, and they need to be digging me
[43:07.560 -> 43:11.920] out and I'd be like, what's the other people like, like in my mind I'm like, what's the
[43:11.920 -> 43:16.240] guy talking about right now, like I've done decent. Some other players have been miles
[43:16.240 -> 43:21.320] off it today and he's picking me out. So I'm like, alright, cool. So I go out, you probably
[43:21.320 -> 43:29.080] see there was a goal I scored against Sunderland if the listeners want to look back at it. And I scored probably about 10 or 15 minutes after the second half
[43:29.080 -> 43:35.540] and I turned around and I looked at the bench like, yeah, Gaffer, you said what you said
[43:35.540 -> 43:39.520] and then that's what you get type thing. Because it was almost like me trying to prove to him.
[43:39.520 -> 43:43.040] So again, it's that fight or flight thing. You know what I'm saying? Where you're trying
[43:43.040 -> 43:45.240] to prove something to somebody. It's not about proving something to somebody, it's that fight or flight thing. You know what I'm saying? Where you're trying to prove something to somebody.
[43:45.240 -> 43:47.480] It's not about proving something to somebody,
[43:47.480 -> 43:49.360] it's about proving it to you.
[43:49.360 -> 43:50.240] That's the thing.
[43:50.240 -> 43:52.200] Prove it to yourself that you can do it.
[43:52.200 -> 43:54.960] Prove to yourself that you can be whatever it is
[43:54.960 -> 43:56.760] that you want to be.
[43:56.760 -> 43:59.080] You shouldn't feel like you have to prove it
[43:59.080 -> 44:00.080] to somebody else.
[44:00.080 -> 44:02.240] And that is the biggest issue, I think,
[44:02.240 -> 44:06.640] for not just footballers, but athletes in general and people in other sports.
[44:06.640 -> 44:08.120] Don't worry about what everyone else thinks.
[44:08.120 -> 44:11.520] Worry about what you can prove to you.
[44:11.520 -> 44:15.700] And lastly, as I said, I got to give Andrew Villas-Boas a shout out because he was unbelievable
[44:15.700 -> 44:16.700] for me.
[44:16.700 -> 44:19.400] He believed in me so much and literally gave me the freedom.
[44:19.400 -> 44:23.000] Daniel, when you get the ball, dribble, cut inside and shoot.
[44:23.000 -> 44:25.160] And I remember my teammates like,
[44:25.160 -> 44:26.600] Studge, like stop shooting,
[44:26.600 -> 44:28.560] like you shot five times today.
[44:28.560 -> 44:30.600] You're like, and in my mind, I'm like,
[44:30.600 -> 44:32.560] yo, the gaffers giving me the freedom out here today.
[44:32.560 -> 44:34.560] So I'm going to take advantage of this.
[44:34.560 -> 44:37.640] So, so, so, so kind of like,
[44:37.640 -> 44:40.520] that's kind of like the different styles I'd say
[44:40.520 -> 44:42.320] for those, those three.
[44:42.320 -> 44:43.840] And I think for Jürgen, you know,
[44:43.840 -> 44:44.920] to give him a mention as well,
[44:44.920 -> 44:46.000] Jürgen was a great manager.
[44:46.000 -> 44:49.760] He was different to all the others and I didn't play as much with him,
[44:49.760 -> 44:54.240] but I learned a lot and we had a very good relationship,
[44:54.240 -> 44:55.960] especially towards the end.
[44:55.960 -> 44:58.960] The last season, the relationship I had with Jürgen was unbelievable
[44:58.960 -> 45:01.720] and I've got nothing but love and respect for him,
[45:01.720 -> 45:03.040] for what he's achieved at Liverpool,
[45:03.040 -> 45:07.720] but also for the relationship we have today as well. You know, it's brilliant. Dim ond cymorth a chymorth i'w gwneud, ar gyfer yr hyn sydd wedi'i gynhyrchu yng Nghymru, ond hefyd ar gyfer y gysylltiad y mae gennym heddiw hefyd.
[45:07.720 -> 45:09.080] Dyna'n brif.
[45:09.080 -> 45:11.640] Go on, ysgrifennwch hwnnw yn fwy o ddethau os ydych chi'n ei wneud.
[45:11.640 -> 45:14.680] Be oedd y cysylltiad y byddwch chi'n siarad am ei gweithredu?
[45:14.680 -> 45:15.920] Rwy'n credu, fel chwaraewr,
[45:15.920 -> 45:17.640] weithiau dydych chi ddim yn deall
[45:17.640 -> 45:21.440] pa mor fawr yw cael gysylltiad da gyda'r coach.
[45:21.440 -> 45:24.120] Dydyn ni ddim yn cael gysylltiad ddau gynnar,
[45:24.120 -> 45:26.120] ond cael gwybodaeth gwych, cael cy is like that, but to have a great understanding,
[45:26.120 -> 45:28.960] have mutual respect, of course, he's the manager.
[45:28.960 -> 45:32.120] And I think I always respected every manager
[45:32.120 -> 45:33.280] that I worked with.
[45:33.280 -> 45:35.000] If I never played, of course, I want to know
[45:35.000 -> 45:37.000] why I'm not playing, not in an aggressive way,
[45:37.000 -> 45:39.920] but I want to know, like, I'm a details person.
[45:39.920 -> 45:41.680] So I always ask questions.
[45:41.680 -> 45:42.880] That's how I'm wired.
[45:42.880 -> 45:46.200] So for instance, if you said to me,
[45:46.200 -> 45:49.600] Daniel, do 25 squats, I'd say,
[45:49.600 -> 45:51.680] why do you want me to do 25 squats?
[45:51.680 -> 45:54.040] And then you'd say, because it will strengthen your glutes
[45:54.040 -> 45:54.920] and strengthen your quads,
[45:54.920 -> 45:56.680] and it will make you more strong.
[45:56.680 -> 45:58.080] And I'd be like, okay, cool.
[45:58.080 -> 46:00.600] So for instance, if I wasn't playing, I'd say,
[46:00.600 -> 46:02.440] Gaffer, what do I need to do to play?
[46:02.440 -> 46:04.720] Like, what is it that you want me to do
[46:04.720 -> 46:07.320] so I can actually get in a team?
[46:07.320 -> 46:09.080] So I'm a details-driven person
[46:09.080 -> 46:10.880] because I feel like when I get details,
[46:10.880 -> 46:12.320] then that's my goal.
[46:12.320 -> 46:13.520] You've given me the detail,
[46:13.520 -> 46:15.840] you've given me the information I need.
[46:15.840 -> 46:18.040] I'm going to take that information for me
[46:18.040 -> 46:20.000] and I'm going to apply myself correctly
[46:20.000 -> 46:23.120] to try and achieve those things to please
[46:23.120 -> 46:25.160] whatever coach it was at the time,
[46:25.160 -> 46:30.000] to see if what they've told me, if I'm doing what you've told me to do,
[46:30.000 -> 46:33.640] you know, I would like to think that I would be able to play off the back of that.
[46:33.640 -> 46:37.000] I think when you talk about your time at Liverpool, and for a lot of it,
[46:37.000 -> 46:42.080] obviously, it was fantastic and you scored amazing goals and you played some of the best football of your career,
[46:42.080 -> 46:44.680] but towards the end, when you were going to come in, it was difficult.
[46:44.680 -> 46:47.200] And that reminds me of that phrase, just because something
[46:47.200 -> 46:54.080] is hard for you, doesn't mean it's bad for you. You probably learned a great deal not having it
[46:54.080 -> 46:57.440] all easy towards the end of your time at Liverpool, I imagine.
[46:57.440 -> 47:06.160] Yeah, I mean, as I said, the first sort of conversation we had, you know, Jürgen was saying, you know,
[47:06.160 -> 47:10.120] I came here because I wanted to work with you, with Coutinho,
[47:10.120 -> 47:11.880] with these players that we have in the squad.
[47:11.880 -> 47:15.000] We have a great squad for me, you know, he's a brilliant player and all these things.
[47:15.560 -> 47:18.760] And I was like, I'm looking forward to it.
[47:18.760 -> 47:20.440] I'm absolutely buzzing.
[47:20.440 -> 47:24.480] And I think as time went on, the team framework changed and the formation changed.
[47:25.600 -> 47:30.520] And I think as time went on, the team framework changed and the formation changed. And my style of play at the time wasn't what the team needed in that position.
[47:30.520 -> 47:32.120] And it's just what it was.
[47:32.120 -> 47:33.920] It wasn't personal.
[47:33.920 -> 47:36.900] And maybe I took it personally at the time as well.
[47:36.900 -> 47:39.440] And I thought like, is the gaffer having me?
[47:39.440 -> 47:40.440] Maybe or you definitely did.
[47:40.440 -> 47:41.440] No, I did for sure.
[47:41.440 -> 47:43.840] I was like, is the gaffer having me or what?
[47:43.840 -> 47:44.840] You know what I mean?
[47:44.840 -> 47:49.520] I know I've still got it. I can still do this thing. I've still got the speed. I can still
[47:49.520 -> 47:55.400] run in behind. I'm twisting people up in training every day. I felt for me in those moments
[47:55.400 -> 48:02.360] when I felt like I wasn't sure, there was uncertainty for me. And again, maybe I wasn't
[48:02.360 -> 48:06.040] operating from my gut. Maybe I wasn't, I wasn't playing free.
[48:06.040 -> 48:10.320] I felt like I had to do what the manager was telling me
[48:10.320 -> 48:12.560] to do instead of thinking,
[48:12.560 -> 48:14.400] I'm going to do what he wants me to do,
[48:14.400 -> 48:16.000] but I've still got to be Daniel.
[48:16.860 -> 48:19.720] But I, as I said, so detail-driven and so like,
[48:19.720 -> 48:20.800] things like, okay, cool.
[48:20.800 -> 48:22.920] If the gaffer says this, then I'm going to,
[48:22.920 -> 48:26.880] I'm going to have to operate in that way. And it wasn't to the detriment of me as well. Let's not, let, cool, if the gaffer says this, then I'm gonna have to operate in that way.
[48:26.960 -> 48:28.640] And it wasn't to the detriment of me as well.
[48:28.640 -> 48:31.440] Let's be frank here, we were winning games every week
[48:31.440 -> 48:34.880] and we were successful and we won a trophy as well.
[48:34.880 -> 48:35.720] We won a Champions League.
[48:35.720 -> 48:38.240] So everything that that manager,
[48:39.160 -> 48:41.440] how he set the team up, it worked.
[48:41.440 -> 48:44.160] You know, we made finals every season.
[48:44.160 -> 48:46.560] So his tactics were correct because
[48:46.560 -> 48:54.960] the teams come along a long way. And I just think for me at the time, I was thinking to
[48:54.960 -> 48:59.480] myself, okay, what do I need to do? So I'd want to be the best version of myself. And
[48:59.480 -> 49:03.120] at the time I wasn't playing. And then in the last season, I said, I took it on the
[49:03.120 -> 49:06.960] chin and I said, you know what, this could potentially be my last season at Liverpool.
[49:06.960 -> 49:15.200] So I'm going to just go for it and not really have any concerns or any worries about anything.
[49:15.200 -> 49:17.520] And I did start to operate from my gut again.
[49:17.520 -> 49:22.800] And as I said, nothing but love and respect for Jürgen because he taught me a lot.
[49:22.800 -> 49:26.240] So I'm grateful for that because I think it's helped me outside,
[49:26.240 -> 49:27.840] outside of life, all the coaches I work with,
[49:27.840 -> 49:31.440] it's helped me not just in football, but outside football too,
[49:31.440 -> 49:34.560] in the business world, in investment things that I do
[49:34.560 -> 49:36.640] and the music business that I work in,
[49:36.640 -> 49:38.000] like it's helped me so much,
[49:38.000 -> 49:39.680] all the advice I've got from these coaches.
[49:39.680 -> 49:42.960] So I'm grateful, grateful for everything I've done.
[49:42.960 -> 49:44.560] That reminds me, you know,
[49:44.560 -> 49:49.000] I remember covering a game towards the end of your time at Liverpool,
[49:49.000 -> 49:51.000] and one of the pundits I was working with said,
[49:51.000 -> 49:54.000] I'll tell you the problem with Daniel Lee, he's got too many things going on.
[49:54.000 -> 50:01.000] He's got like, you know, he likes his clothes and he likes his music and he likes his stirring sauces and all.
[50:01.000 -> 50:07.000] And I remember thinking, why do we have this issue where we are constantly trying to put people in a box and say, right, you're a footballer.
[50:07.000 -> 50:11.000] If you do anything other than play football, we will assume that stuff is bad for your football.
[50:12.000 -> 50:17.000] I think that's completely wrong because you're consumed by it.
[50:17.000 -> 50:19.000] And that's a problem.
[50:19.000 -> 50:21.000] You need to have a break.
[50:21.000 -> 50:25.640] You need to go into work every day feeling excited,
[50:25.640 -> 50:27.720] go home, put the ball away,
[50:27.720 -> 50:30.800] enjoy your time with your family, have other things.
[50:30.800 -> 50:33.360] When I retire, if I'm only consumed by football,
[50:33.360 -> 50:34.280] what do I have?
[50:34.280 -> 50:37.800] Trophies and no knowledge of anything else.
[50:37.800 -> 50:42.800] I understand it's a 15 year career at best for some people
[50:43.360 -> 50:47.200] and for others, it may be half of that or maybe less. Yes,
[50:47.200 -> 50:52.680] you may earn enough money which could potentially financially secure your family, it may not.
[50:52.680 -> 50:57.760] But what do you do when you retire then? Do I golf every day? Is that going to be my life?
[50:57.760 -> 51:07.680] You know, do I, I don't know. I don't know what sort of thing makes sense besides doing things you're passionate about.
[51:07.680 -> 51:10.560] When I was a kid, football wasn't my only passion.
[51:10.560 -> 51:11.560] I liked music.
[51:11.560 -> 51:13.360] I wanted to be an actor when I was a kid.
[51:13.360 -> 51:16.720] I did drama at school.
[51:16.720 -> 51:19.160] I did music at school.
[51:19.160 -> 51:22.480] I'm generally an artsy person.
[51:22.480 -> 51:26.440] My mom's an unbelievable chef, which is why we have the sauce. I have a record
[51:26.440 -> 51:30.960] label, which I don't even run myself. So it wasn't taking up any of my time.
[51:30.960 -> 51:35.760] But even if it was though, that's not a bad thing.
[51:35.760 -> 51:49.200] It's not a bad thing. But the thing is for me, the misconception is you have to be just a footballer or just an athlete or just a boxer.
[51:49.200 -> 51:51.160] And it's wrong.
[51:51.160 -> 51:52.920] The day before a game, you're locking.
[51:52.920 -> 51:55.960] Your phone's not even, you're not even responding to people.
[51:55.960 -> 51:56.960] You do not disturb.
[51:56.960 -> 51:57.960] You're locked in.
[51:57.960 -> 51:59.880] Game day, you're locked in.
[51:59.880 -> 52:02.260] But throughout the week, you're training.
[52:02.260 -> 52:04.640] You wake up at probably 8, 8.30.
[52:04.640 -> 52:05.980] You're in at 10,
[52:05.980 -> 52:08.480] you train, you get home, you're home by two o'clock,
[52:08.480 -> 52:10.960] I've got eight hours to play with.
[52:10.960 -> 52:14.040] Should I sit on Call of Duty for eight hours?
[52:14.040 -> 52:15.980] Should I, you know, get a massage?
[52:15.980 -> 52:19.080] If I get a massage, if I get acupuncture,
[52:19.080 -> 52:22.180] if I get recovery pants on, if I do all these things,
[52:22.180 -> 52:24.320] that's four hours, what about the other four?
[52:24.320 -> 52:26.000] Do you want me on the couch watching television, or do you want me doing something mae'n rhaid i mi ddod yn ôl, mae'n rhaid i mi ddod yn ôl, mae'n rhaid i mi ddod yn ôl, mae'n rhaid i mi ddod yn ôl,
[52:26.000 -> 52:28.000] mae'n rhaid i mi ddod yn ôl,
[52:28.000 -> 52:30.000] mae'n rhaid i mi ddod yn ôl,
[52:30.000 -> 52:32.000] mae'n rhaid i mi ddod yn ôl,
[52:32.000 -> 52:34.000] mae'n rhaid i mi ddod yn ôl,
[52:34.000 -> 52:36.000] mae'n rhaid i mi ddod in,
[52:36.000 -> 52:38.000] mae'n rhaid i mi ddod in,
[52:38.000 -> 52:40.000] mae'n rhaid i mi ddod in,
[52:40.000 -> 52:42.000] mae'n rhaid i mi ddod in,
[52:42.000 -> 52:44.000] mae'n rhaid i mi ddod in,
[52:44.000 -> 52:45.360] mae'n rhaid i mi ddod in, mae'n rhaid i mi ddarganfoddwch y sŵn hwnnw, y ddweud ynghylch ffasiwn, oherwydd rwy'n credu bod y
[52:45.360 -> 52:49.440] sgwrs yn ffasinadol iawn i bobl ddeall, Daniel, yw'r gwahaniaeth rhwng
[52:49.440 -> 52:54.560] ymdrecholfeydd a'r amgylchedd. Felly roedd gennych y drifoedd hwn i fod yn
[52:54.560 -> 52:59.360] gwych a chadw'r rhan fwyaf o'ch hunain i'ch cymhwyster a chael
[52:59.360 -> 53:04.080] ymddygiad gyda'r cymhwyster. Ond sut rydych chi'n ei gynhyrchu hynny pan
[53:04.080 -> 53:05.200] rydych chi'n dechrau cael y
[53:05.200 -> 53:09.520] gwagoddau o gyffredin, cael y cyfrifoldeb ffynedig, rydych chi'n ymgyrchu
[53:09.520 -> 53:13.680] gan yr holl y cyfnodau hyn a wnaethech chi,
[53:13.680 -> 53:18.160] popeth rydych chi wedi'i ddrewio. Sut y gafodd chi gael y pasiwn honno'n byw?
[53:18.160 -> 53:22.080] Nid yw'n unig yn ennill. Mae'n unig fel hynny.
[53:22.080 -> 53:30.240] Nid yw'n unig yn ennill. Rydw i'n dod yn ôl nesaf ystod, a byddwn i'n It's as simple as that. It's never enough. I'll come back next season and I'll score goals and I'll achieve things that I've meditated
[53:30.240 -> 53:36.720] on and thought about for a long time throughout this time of me not playing.
[53:36.720 -> 53:41.440] And for me, it's never enough.
[53:41.440 -> 53:46.700] I know that if my record label had a number one, it'd be like, we need another number one,
[53:46.700 -> 53:48.780] or we need to work on another number one.
[53:48.780 -> 53:53.460] If the source is sold 50 bottles, how can we sell 60?
[53:53.460 -> 53:55.140] It's just the way I am.
[53:55.140 -> 53:59.840] Like when I invest in tech companies or whatever it may be,
[53:59.840 -> 54:01.140] again, it's how can I help?
[54:01.140 -> 54:03.540] How can I help you guys to be the best you can be?
[54:03.540 -> 54:04.380] What can I do for you?
[54:04.380 -> 54:07.120] How can I help the company grow?
[54:07.120 -> 54:07.960] Those types of things.
[54:07.960 -> 54:11.800] So for me, it's, I think being passionate
[54:12.680 -> 54:15.080] is something you have inside
[54:15.080 -> 54:17.880] and everyone has their own passion
[54:17.880 -> 54:19.640] and you have to find it.
[54:19.640 -> 54:21.120] That's the thing.
[54:21.120 -> 54:24.280] Some people are confused with not knowing
[54:24.280 -> 54:26.520] what their true passion is.
[54:26.520 -> 54:31.240] So they're doing things that they think it's fun, but they don't love it.
[54:31.240 -> 54:33.160] Everything I do, I love.
[54:33.160 -> 54:35.840] If I don't love it, I'm not going to do it.
[54:35.840 -> 54:38.760] If I don't love music, I'm not going to be in the music business.
[54:38.760 -> 54:41.280] If I don't love football, I wouldn't want to play again.
[54:41.280 -> 54:43.800] It'd be easy for me to say, I'm going to retire today.
[54:43.800 -> 54:46.480] I've been off for a year, but I love it.
[54:46.480 -> 54:47.200] It's my life.
[54:47.200 -> 54:48.720] It's my passion.
[54:48.720 -> 54:51.200] It's what I know the best.
[54:51.200 -> 54:53.680] It's the art form that makes me who I am
[54:53.680 -> 54:55.280] and has made me who I am.
[54:55.280 -> 54:57.840] So it's about love and passion for me.
[54:57.840 -> 55:01.280] Those are two things that mean the most to me,
[55:01.280 -> 55:02.800] you know, and it's unconditional.
[55:02.800 -> 55:04.160] It's unconditional love for football.
[55:04.160 -> 55:04.960] It'll never go away.
[55:04.960 -> 55:06.360] I'm so excited for the club that's going to get their hands on you. mean the most to me, you know, and it's unconditional. It's unconditional love for football, it'll never go away.
[55:06.360 -> 55:08.880] I'm so excited for the club that's going to get their hands
[55:08.880 -> 55:11.040] on you and we'll talk about the future in just a second.
[55:11.040 -> 55:13.440] But lots of people get in touch with Damien and I,
[55:13.440 -> 55:17.400] and they say they've got the passion, they've got the drive,
[55:17.400 -> 55:20.040] but they are saddled with regret.
[55:20.040 -> 55:21.960] What's your relationship like with regret?
[55:21.960 -> 55:27.240] You know, I know you've had this ban from football because of this betting issue that you went through,
[55:27.240 -> 55:29.920] and you're someone that takes 100% responsibility
[55:29.920 -> 55:31.320] for anything that happens in your life.
[55:31.320 -> 55:34.280] So what is your relationship like with regret?
[55:34.280 -> 55:36.520] How do you process that and move forward?
[55:36.520 -> 55:39.360] Again, a psychologist is the only way forward.
[55:39.360 -> 55:40.880] You have to work through it.
[55:40.880 -> 55:42.560] You know, as I said, I've shed tears.
[55:42.560 -> 55:44.280] I've been realistic.
[55:44.280 -> 55:50.120] I've been honest. I've held myself accountable. I think holding yourself accountable, regardless of the outside
[55:50.120 -> 55:55.160] noise and the grey areas and the bad advice and the bad information that people give you
[55:55.160 -> 56:00.480] and the cloud that comes over you that you don't know and the confusion, all those things
[56:00.480 -> 56:03.720] happen and you do go through moments where you do things that you shouldn't do or you
[56:03.720 -> 56:08.160] say things you shouldn't say or you operate in a way that you're ashamed of.
[56:08.160 -> 56:11.440] Looking back, as you say, if you have the knowledge you have and you're operating from
[56:11.440 -> 56:18.200] a sense of clarity, there would be no mistakes because you're clear and your mind's clear.
[56:18.200 -> 56:19.760] You don't have anything going on.
[56:19.760 -> 56:20.760] It's just got clarity.
[56:20.760 -> 56:21.760] That's it.
[56:21.760 -> 56:26.760] So I think for me, the regrets only come from moments of not having clarity, to be honest
[56:26.760 -> 56:27.760] with you.
[56:27.760 -> 56:28.760] That is it.
[56:28.760 -> 56:33.280] Like not operating from the sense of clarity for me is where every mistake I've made has
[56:33.280 -> 56:34.280] come from.
[56:34.280 -> 56:38.640] Besides that, all the good things that have happened came from clarity and all the bad
[56:38.640 -> 56:41.680] things that have happened came from not having clarity.
[56:41.680 -> 56:45.160] So it's like, it's one of those where, you know,
[56:45.160 -> 56:48.480] you have to try and find the balance.
[56:48.480 -> 56:49.480] It's a brilliant answer.
[56:49.480 -> 56:51.120] So let's talk then about the clarity
[56:51.120 -> 56:53.120] that you're going to take on to your second career.
[56:53.120 -> 56:54.500] Let's call it that.
[56:54.500 -> 56:57.360] What will the club that signs you, what will they get?
[56:57.360 -> 56:59.920] What sort of Daniel Sturridge will walk through that door?
[56:59.920 -> 57:02.200] I don't like to use the word hungry.
[57:02.200 -> 57:07.240] I feel I'm driven, I'm motivated, I'm dedicated.
[57:08.560 -> 57:10.780] I've put in the work.
[57:10.780 -> 57:15.420] I've been training day in, day out for the past 12 months,
[57:15.420 -> 57:16.960] even when I was banned, you know,
[57:16.960 -> 57:19.440] and I was still training.
[57:19.440 -> 57:21.840] We had COVID, that period there
[57:21.840 -> 57:25.600] where everyone was pretty much banned at that point.
[57:25.600 -> 57:28.720] But moving forward for me now, I'm just, I'm driven.
[57:28.720 -> 57:30.040] I know I have it.
[57:30.040 -> 57:31.040] I know I'm me.
[57:31.040 -> 57:32.760] I'm so confident.
[57:32.760 -> 57:33.760] I just feel it.
[57:33.760 -> 57:35.020] You know what I'm saying?
[57:35.020 -> 57:36.020] And people will see it.
[57:36.020 -> 57:37.020] Put it like that.
[57:37.020 -> 57:38.560] So are you as good as you've ever been?
[57:38.560 -> 57:43.120] I mean, my playing weight now is, I'm training so hard now, my playing weight's back where
[57:43.120 -> 57:45.760] it was eight years ago. Rob Markman Wow.
[57:45.760 -> 57:50.120] Poe Smith I'm obsessed by the fact that I know I want
[57:50.120 -> 57:51.360] to be what I was before.
[57:51.360 -> 57:52.360] I'm better than that.
[57:52.360 -> 57:53.360] I'll be better than that.
[57:53.360 -> 57:54.360] I'm wiser now.
[57:54.360 -> 57:55.360] I'm older now.
[57:55.360 -> 57:56.360] My body's in physical shape.
[57:56.360 -> 57:58.520] I didn't even think I could get to that weight again.
[57:58.520 -> 58:00.720] I'm doing things that I didn't think was possible to myself.
[58:00.720 -> 58:08.560] So I'm proving to myself, that's why I said I'm proud of myself, because to be holding myself accountable and saying, you know what, bro, you've got to go to bed
[58:08.560 -> 58:12.640] now or you've got to do this or that's not for you or don't do that or, oh, I'm going
[58:12.640 -> 58:15.400] to go link my friends. Do I really need to link my friends if I've got to be up at eight
[58:15.400 -> 58:19.200] tomorrow? Nah, I'm not going to link them. Holding myself accountable for everything.
[58:19.200 -> 58:28.560] So I'm driven, I'm motivated, I want to win, I want to help a team be successfulîm i fod yn llwyr. Dwi am rhoi'r gwybodaeth i'r chwaraeon ifanc rydw i wedi'i ddysgu a gwneud yn siŵr
[58:28.560 -> 58:31.360] nad ydyn nhw'n gwneud unrhyw fwyaf o'r gwaed rydw i wedi'i wneud
[58:31.360 -> 58:33.600] i helpu'r tîm i fod yn y gynllunau'r well.
[58:33.600 -> 58:35.200] Dyna'n bwysig i mi hefyd.
[58:35.200 -> 58:38.160] Dwi'n teimlo, yn ddiweddar, yn y moment hon,
[58:38.160 -> 58:40.000] y gwellt rydw i wedi'i teimlo yn 10 mlynedd.
[58:40.000 -> 58:42.640] Felly rwy'n ymdrech, Dan, ar y gwaith y gwnes i chi
[58:42.640 -> 58:50.800] ar y nifer o weithiau gyda'r psycholog a'r rhan ffynedigol o'ch gysylltiad. So I'm intrigued, Dan, about this work that you've spoke about a number of times with the with the psychologist and on the mental side of your preparation. If you had to attribute
[58:51.400 -> 58:58.080] like a percentage, what do you think that's going to give you that's different from the Daniel before the ban?
[58:58.600 -> 58:59.960] Well,
[58:59.960 -> 59:01.960] I'd probably have been
[59:02.160 -> 59:07.040] half of me before and I'm now Daniel 2.0.
[59:07.040 -> 59:13.200] I've done the work and the hardest thing and the biggest and most difficult thing for me
[59:13.200 -> 59:21.800] was to actually take that step because vulnerability for anybody is the worst feeling you can have.
[59:21.800 -> 59:26.920] Feeling vulnerable, unsure, not knowing uncertainty. And taking
[59:26.920 -> 59:31.360] that step to speak to the psychologist was a hard thing for me. But I said, you know
[59:31.360 -> 59:35.520] what, I'm going to do it. I had Steve Peters when I played for Liverpool in 2013, but he's
[59:35.520 -> 59:42.760] more sports psychology. But this is different. It's sports, but it's also about you.
[59:42.760 -> 59:45.040] I remember the very first time I did an interview
[59:45.040 -> 59:49.120] with when I signed for Chelsea,
[59:49.120 -> 59:50.680] they wrote a story and said I was arrogant.
[59:50.680 -> 59:53.520] And I was like, I'm not arrogant.
[59:53.520 -> 59:55.760] I'm confident there's a difference.
[59:55.760 -> 59:57.840] There's a very, very big difference.
[59:57.840 -> 01:00:00.640] And I'm supremely confident in me
[01:00:00.640 -> 01:00:01.760] because I've done the work.
[01:00:01.760 -> 01:00:02.800] And when you've done the work
[01:00:02.800 -> 01:00:04.520] and when you've been dedicated
[01:00:04.520 -> 01:00:06.840] and when you've put yourself in a position
[01:00:06.840 -> 01:00:11.120] and looked at yourself from the outside looking in,
[01:00:11.120 -> 01:00:13.080] and then you look at yourself from the inside
[01:00:13.080 -> 01:00:17.080] and look out and say, okay, like, what do you want?
[01:00:17.080 -> 01:00:19.480] Like, what is it you're trying to achieve?
[01:00:19.480 -> 01:00:21.400] Are you going to do what it takes?
[01:00:21.400 -> 01:00:24.080] Hold yourself accountable for what it is
[01:00:24.080 -> 01:00:25.640] you want to achieve. I just
[01:00:25.640 -> 01:00:31.480] want to be able to be out there and show the changes I've made in my life. I'm so excited
[01:00:31.480 -> 01:00:32.480] for it all.
[01:00:32.480 -> 01:00:36.120] For me, this is the recurring theme that I keep thinking about in this interview is a
[01:00:36.120 -> 01:00:41.780] guy who was free, then he wasn't free and now he is. And it's the freedom that is allowing
[01:00:41.780 -> 01:00:45.480] you to talk like this. If you weren't free and if you were still knotted up
[01:00:45.480 -> 01:00:48.160] and twisted up and feeling like people didn't understand you
[01:00:48.160 -> 01:00:50.640] and you were being wronged and you,
[01:00:50.640 -> 01:00:52.560] there was no clarity to your thought process,
[01:00:52.560 -> 01:00:54.240] you wouldn't be able to sit here and talk like this.
[01:00:54.240 -> 01:00:57.080] I think this freedom that you've got allows you to say,
[01:00:57.080 -> 01:00:59.560] look, I don't know, I spent my life
[01:00:59.560 -> 01:01:01.880] interviewing footballers, Daniel, and they say things.
[01:01:01.880 -> 01:01:04.360] And afterwards I finished the interview thinking,
[01:01:04.360 -> 01:01:06.760] I'm not sure that he believed what he was telling me,
[01:01:06.760 -> 01:01:08.480] let alone whether I believed it.
[01:01:08.480 -> 01:01:10.360] I see you sitting here talking now.
[01:01:10.360 -> 01:01:15.040] I have no doubt that you have absolute cast iron belief.
[01:01:15.040 -> 01:01:16.040] And it isn't an arrogance.
[01:01:16.040 -> 01:01:19.720] It is a belief that things are going to work out
[01:01:19.720 -> 01:01:20.760] for the good.
[01:01:20.760 -> 01:01:23.480] And what is the point of thinking anything other than that?
[01:01:23.480 -> 01:01:26.800] What benefit is it to you to sit here and think it won't work out well?
[01:01:26.800 -> 01:01:33.440] Exactly. And the thing is, as well, is this doesn't just apply to sport. I'm talking about
[01:01:33.440 -> 01:01:38.600] in general, my life, I'm being the best dad I can be. You know, the first six months of
[01:01:38.600 -> 01:01:46.640] my baby being born, you know, it was like, I'm worthless. Like, I can't feed her.
[01:01:46.640 -> 01:01:50.040] All these things, does she really know me?
[01:01:50.040 -> 01:01:51.200] All of that.
[01:01:51.200 -> 01:01:53.080] And it's about being present.
[01:01:53.080 -> 01:01:55.240] Be present in everything you're doing.
[01:01:55.240 -> 01:01:57.720] Don't look past things.
[01:01:57.720 -> 01:02:00.600] Be present in the moment and say, you know what?
[01:02:00.600 -> 01:02:04.640] I'm going to give my daughter my undivided attention now until she doesn't want it from
[01:02:04.640 -> 01:02:05.640] me.
[01:02:05.640 -> 01:02:11.320] I'm going to give the gym, when I go to that gym, the coach is getting my undivided attention
[01:02:11.320 -> 01:02:16.280] for that hour and a half that I'm with him because I know that he has the best intentions
[01:02:16.280 -> 01:02:17.640] for me.
[01:02:17.640 -> 01:02:22.440] Whatever I'm doing, if I'm in a meeting, I'm listening, I'm learning, I want to learn from
[01:02:22.440 -> 01:02:23.520] people.
[01:02:23.520 -> 01:02:28.320] In this moment in time now, I'm learning so much from so many different people, which
[01:02:28.320 -> 01:02:32.720] also helps to help me grow as a person too.
[01:02:32.720 -> 01:02:33.720] It's about growth.
[01:02:33.720 -> 01:02:38.400] I feel like I've grown so much since I've been away from football, which is only going
[01:02:38.400 -> 01:02:41.020] to help me and fuel me when I go back to it.
[01:02:41.020 -> 01:02:44.000] So that's the most exciting thing I would say.
[01:02:44.000 -> 01:02:45.120] You can say you want to grow,
[01:02:45.120 -> 01:02:47.980] but are you going to be willing to actually learn
[01:02:47.980 -> 01:02:49.380] and take heed?
[01:02:49.380 -> 01:02:50.920] For me as I'm going to go back to it,
[01:02:50.920 -> 01:02:53.480] clarity is the most important thing in life.
[01:02:53.480 -> 01:02:56.680] Right. It's been a, what a brilliant, brilliant conversation.
[01:02:56.680 -> 01:02:57.760] Listen, we've reached the point
[01:02:57.760 -> 01:02:59.480] of our quick fire questions, Daniel,
[01:02:59.480 -> 01:03:01.440] which we finish every interview with.
[01:03:01.440 -> 01:03:05.120] So the first one is the three non-negotiables that
[01:03:05.120 -> 01:03:07.920] people around you have to buy into.
[01:03:07.920 -> 01:03:14.320] First one, positive energy, always feed me with that. Respect my process.
[01:03:14.320 -> 01:03:18.800] Anything I need to do that's going to benefit me, you have to understand it.
[01:03:18.800 -> 01:03:26.600] And if you don't understand it, then you don't love me. because I have to do what is best for
[01:03:26.600 -> 01:03:30.040] the process it's gonna make me be the best version of myself and I'd say
[01:03:30.040 -> 01:03:33.080] lastly as well hold me accountable because I'm gonna hold myself
[01:03:33.080 -> 01:03:37.280] accountable and if you don't believe I'm doing something right hold me
[01:03:37.280 -> 01:03:41.800] accountable and call me out on it and say yo you shouldn't do that or you
[01:03:41.800 -> 01:03:43.800] should do this or whatever it may be.
[01:03:43.800 -> 01:03:47.120] What advice would you give to a teenage Daniel just starting out? Dylech chi ddim ei wneud, neu dylech chi'n ei wneud hyn, neu beth bynnag y gallai. Pa gwybodaeth byddwch chi'n ei roi i dyniad, Daniel, yn dechrau?
[01:03:48.000 -> 01:03:51.920] Gweithio ar eich anoddau a phrofi ar eich sgript.
[01:03:53.280 -> 01:04:00.000] Dwi'n meddwl, gwneud ymddangiad, ac os ydych chi'n eisiau ei wneud, rhaid i chi wneud y cyfrifiadau.
[01:04:00.560 -> 01:04:03.920] Os nad ydych chi'n ymddangiadu i wneud cyfrifiadau i ddod i'ch gynllun,
[01:04:03.920 -> 01:04:05.800] dydych chi ddim yn mynd i'w gael. Dyna'n hwnnw'n hwnnw'n debyg. If you're not prepared to make sacrifices to get to your goal, you're not going to get there.
[01:04:05.800 -> 01:04:07.160] That's as simple as it gets.
[01:04:07.160 -> 01:04:11.960] You have to make the sacrifices, be dedicated, and put the work in.
[01:04:11.960 -> 01:04:18.800] And then from there, whatever level you physically can achieve or mentally can achieve in any
[01:04:18.800 -> 01:04:22.660] craft you do, you will reach your potential.
[01:04:22.660 -> 01:04:23.660] And that may not be the best.
[01:04:23.660 -> 01:04:25.040] That may not be number one. That may not be number one.
[01:04:25.040 -> 01:04:26.680] That may be number 100.
[01:04:26.680 -> 01:04:28.320] Number 100 is fine too.
[01:04:28.320 -> 01:04:30.120] There's billions of people in the world.
[01:04:30.120 -> 01:04:32.760] Just be the best you can be, reach your potential.
[01:04:32.760 -> 01:04:34.720] Don't worry about anybody else,
[01:04:34.720 -> 01:04:36.100] or what anyone else is doing.
[01:04:36.100 -> 01:04:38.600] Just focus on yourself and reach your potential.
[01:04:38.600 -> 01:04:40.480] What is your biggest strength
[01:04:40.480 -> 01:04:43.720] and what is your greatest weakness?
[01:04:43.720 -> 01:04:45.800] It's a good question, you know.
[01:04:45.800 -> 01:04:48.680] I feel like my instinct is my biggest strength.
[01:04:48.680 -> 01:04:51.520] Being instinctive, but being strong willed
[01:04:51.520 -> 01:04:52.360] and strong minded.
[01:04:52.360 -> 01:04:54.040] I feel I'm strong willed and strong minded
[01:04:54.040 -> 01:04:56.300] because I've been through so much,
[01:04:56.300 -> 01:04:59.000] but I'm here today standing proud
[01:04:59.000 -> 01:05:01.000] in the best place mentally in my life
[01:05:01.000 -> 01:05:02.760] that I could possibly be.
[01:05:02.760 -> 01:05:04.600] And like I said, I'm proud of myself
[01:05:04.600 -> 01:05:06.940] for going through this process and still going through
[01:05:06.940 -> 01:05:07.940] it by the way.
[01:05:07.940 -> 01:05:09.020] It's not finished.
[01:05:09.020 -> 01:05:16.380] So I'd say strong mind and strong will probably that, even though my instinct is my core.
[01:05:16.380 -> 01:05:22.060] My weaknesses, I would say, I hate losing and I hate failing.
[01:05:22.060 -> 01:05:24.500] And it's hard to accept.
[01:05:24.500 -> 01:05:28.440] And then I blame myself and I'm too hard on myself.
[01:05:28.440 -> 01:05:33.680] And the problem with that is when you blame yourself or you're hard on yourself, you're
[01:05:33.680 -> 01:05:35.880] getting in your own way.
[01:05:35.880 -> 01:05:48.000] I think that because I want to always be successful and always get to where I want to get in life. If I fail, it
[01:05:48.000 -> 01:05:51.000] feels like even more than it should.
[01:05:51.000 -> 01:05:56.000] So you started by quoting from a book, Daniel. What one book recommendation would you make?
[01:05:56.000 -> 01:06:01.000] I'd say John Kehoe's Mindpower was probably the best book I've read.
[01:06:01.000 -> 01:06:11.120] That last season with Liverpool, as I said, I read that book when I was on holiday before pre-season. And I remembered visioning, I was saying, we're
[01:06:11.120 -> 01:06:14.440] going to win a Champions League this season, you know, and I said it in my head, like,
[01:06:14.440 -> 01:06:30.800] and really believed it. It was weird. And I think that that book there is game-changing for the psychological side of sport and life, because it makes you
[01:06:30.800 -> 01:06:35.920] think of yourself, it makes you write things down, it makes you, it teaches you so much.
[01:06:35.920 -> 01:06:39.480] So I'd say Mind Powered by John Keyhole would be the one.
[01:06:39.480 -> 01:06:43.560] And the final question, Daniel, for everyone listening to this, a good takeaway for all
[01:06:43.560 -> 01:06:47.440] of them. The one golden rule that you would share with people
[01:06:47.440 -> 01:06:49.720] for them to live a high performance life?
[01:06:50.640 -> 01:06:54.120] Be prepared to make the sacrifices
[01:06:55.360 -> 01:06:57.640] if you want to be successful in life.
[01:06:57.640 -> 01:06:58.480] Love it.
[01:06:58.480 -> 01:07:00.600] What is it the Marines say?
[01:07:00.600 -> 01:07:02.060] Everybody wants to go to heaven,
[01:07:02.060 -> 01:07:04.160] but nobody's prepared to die.
[01:07:04.160 -> 01:07:05.000] It's a great one. It's a great one.
[01:07:05.000 -> 01:07:08.160] That's a great one, man.
[01:07:08.160 -> 01:07:09.560] Yeah, you can have that one.
[01:07:09.560 -> 01:07:11.320] Do you know what?
[01:07:11.320 -> 01:07:13.680] There's a real sense of balance from you.
[01:07:13.680 -> 01:07:14.680] Maybe for the first time
[01:07:14.680 -> 01:07:16.360] since you became a professional footballer,
[01:07:16.360 -> 01:07:20.440] you seem to have all of the elements for your life in order.
[01:07:20.440 -> 01:07:22.000] And that can only be something
[01:07:22.000 -> 01:07:23.840] that enhances you as a footballer.
[01:07:23.840 -> 01:07:25.800] But I almost think that like that's downplaying it.
[01:07:25.800 -> 01:07:27.600] It's not about enhancing you as a footballer, is it?
[01:07:27.600 -> 01:07:30.300] It's about enhancing you as a person, enhancing the life that you live
[01:07:30.300 -> 01:07:33.800] and the life that you're going to live for the next 40 or 50 years, God willing.
[01:07:33.800 -> 01:07:37.700] So, thanks so much for coming on here and sharing your story.
[01:07:37.700 -> 01:07:39.500] It's been a really interesting conversation.
[01:07:39.500 -> 01:07:42.200] Thank you very much for having me, Damian and Jake.
[01:07:42.200 -> 01:07:47.600] It's been a pleasure, honestly. And I really appreciate the platform
[01:07:47.600 -> 01:07:49.700] and the work you guys have done as well.
[01:07:49.700 -> 01:07:52.000] So I just want to give you guys a shout out
[01:07:52.000 -> 01:07:54.440] and say, continue doing the great work.
[01:07:54.440 -> 01:07:56.620] I've been listening, I've been watching,
[01:07:56.620 -> 01:07:59.800] and I'm sure there's a lot of kids out there
[01:07:59.800 -> 01:08:02.280] and adults too, who will gain a lot of knowledge
[01:08:02.280 -> 01:08:03.200] from your platform.
[01:08:03.200 -> 01:08:05.600] So thank you guys for doing this.
[01:08:09.080 -> 01:08:09.900] Damien.
[01:08:09.900 -> 01:08:10.740] Jake.
[01:08:10.740 -> 01:08:13.200] I enjoyed hearing from Lukey, his dog as well.
[01:08:13.200 -> 01:08:14.040] Yeah.
[01:08:14.040 -> 01:08:16.240] The one that was held hostage.
[01:08:16.240 -> 01:08:17.240] Yeah, that's exactly the one,
[01:08:17.240 -> 01:08:18.240] the one that was held hostage.
[01:08:18.240 -> 01:08:19.080] And do you know what?
[01:08:19.080 -> 01:08:19.900] It's interesting you say that,
[01:08:19.900 -> 01:08:21.840] because I think that,
[01:08:21.840 -> 01:08:24.160] I think he might've been held hostage by football
[01:08:24.160 -> 01:08:27.520] for years, and he is finally emerging from that period, you know? Yeah, well, I mean, wasn't it fascinating oherwydd rwy'n credu ei fod wedi cael ei gilydd yn y ffyrdd o ffytbol ac mae'n dod yn ddiweddar o'r cyfnod honno.
[01:08:27.520 -> 01:08:31.440] Ie, roedd e'n ffasafol clywed ei bod yn siarad am
[01:08:31.440 -> 01:08:35.040] cael y gwirionedd yna mewn nifer o ffyrdd a mynd yn llwyddo.
[01:08:35.040 -> 01:08:37.840] Dechreuodd ei ddysgwyrdd yn ffwrdd
[01:08:37.840 -> 01:08:40.480] ac yn dod allan o'r ffwrdd honno,
[01:08:40.480 -> 01:08:43.520] yn rhoi'r gwirionedd yna iddo,
[01:08:43.520 -> 01:08:48.000] rwy'n credu bod y sgwrs hwnnw'n ffasafol o'r perspewydd hwnnw wedi rhoi'r cyfartal hwnnw i'w gynllunio yn ôl. Rwy'n meddwl, rwy'n teimlo'r sgwrs hwnnw'n ffasynadol o'r cyngor hwnnw.
[01:08:48.000 -> 01:08:53.000] Ac mae'n teimlo i mi fel cymdeithas, nid dim ond fel ymgyrch, ond fel cymdeithas.
[01:08:53.000 -> 01:08:58.000] Rhaid i ni greu cymdeithas lle mae pobl fel Daniel sy'n cymharu ar y top
[01:08:58.000 -> 01:09:02.000] mae cymaint o bethau'n digwydd o'u gwmpas, llawer ohonyn nhw dydyn ni ddim yn gwybod amdanyn nhw.
[01:09:02.000 -> 01:09:08.640] Rhaid i ni greu cymdeithas lle dydyn ni ddim yn rhannu'r llwyr o'r bobl hynny.
[01:09:08.640 -> 01:09:10.640] Rydyn ni'n eu gallu eu bod yn llwyr,
[01:09:10.640 -> 01:09:14.640] ac i byw allan yn yr hyn y dylent fod yn ei gael,
[01:09:14.640 -> 01:09:20.320] rwy'n teimlo fel ydym'r broblem pan fydd pobl fel Daniel yn siarad am y strydiau a'r broblemau.
[01:09:20.320 -> 01:09:21.120] Ie, yn debyg.
[01:09:21.120 -> 01:09:23.200] Ac rwy'n credu y bydd Daniel yn ei wneud yno, Jake,
[01:09:23.200 -> 01:09:46.000] mae'n helpu i newid y narratif ychydig o ran, os ydyw e'n siarad am iechyd mental, mae'n siarad am ddod o'r ffordd i ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o ddod o'r ffordd o d rhan o'r rhai sy'n gweithio ymlaen. Ac rhaid i ni roi'r amser iddo i nhw gwneud pethau, dysgu eu dysgu,
[01:09:46.000 -> 01:09:48.000] ac i gael ymlaen i ddod yn ôl
[01:09:48.000 -> 01:09:50.000] a rhannu yr hyn rydyn nhw wedi dysgu ar y ffordd honno.
[01:09:50.000 -> 01:09:52.000] Ac rhaid i ni deall, bydd yna
[01:09:52.000 -> 01:09:54.000] pobl yn clywed hyn a bydd yn dweud,
[01:09:54.000 -> 01:09:56.000] pa gysylltiad oedd
[01:09:56.000 -> 01:09:58.000] Daniel Sturridge ar gael?
[01:09:58.000 -> 01:10:00.000] Ond pan mae rhywun yn dweud i chi, rydw i wedi sgwrs i
[01:10:00.000 -> 01:10:02.000] psycholog, rydw i wedi crio, ac roedd
[01:10:02.000 -> 01:10:04.000] yn gwasanaeth gysylltiadol.
[01:10:04.000 -> 01:10:45.280] Rhaid i chi gael ymdrech i fod hynny'n wir, dyna beth sydd wedi digwydd yma. a'r cyfrifiadau a'r cyfrifiadau a'r cyfrifiadau a'r cyfrifiadau a'r cyfrifiadau a'r cyfrifiadau a'r cyfrifiadau a'r cyfrifiadau a'r cyfrifiadau a'r cyfrifiadau a'r cyfrifiadau a'r cyfrifiadau a'r cyfrifiadau a'r cyfrifiadau a'r cyfrifiadau a'r cyfrifiadau a'r cyfrifiadau a'r cyfrifiadau a'r cyfrifiadau a'r cyfrifiadau a'r cyfrifiadau a'r cyfrifiadau a'r cyfrifiadau a'r cyfrifiadau a'r cyfrifiadau a'r cyfrifiadau a'r cyfrifiadau a'r cyfrifiadau a'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o'r rhan fwyaf o' I'm excited actually by the fact that, you know, we've spoken to Tyrone Mings and we've spoken to Grant Hanley.
[01:10:45.280 -> 01:10:47.140] Now we've spoken to Daniel
[01:10:47.140 -> 01:10:48.340] and other people involved in football.
[01:10:48.340 -> 01:10:50.280] All of them now are working,
[01:10:50.280 -> 01:10:51.920] not just with sports psychologists,
[01:10:51.920 -> 01:10:53.720] but with actual psychologists, you know,
[01:10:53.720 -> 01:10:55.880] enhancing their lives, not just their football careers.
[01:10:55.880 -> 01:10:57.880] Because I think that enhancing their lives,
[01:10:57.880 -> 01:11:00.560] giving them that balance and that equilibrium
[01:11:00.560 -> 01:11:02.240] definitely makes them a better footballer,
[01:11:02.240 -> 01:11:04.240] but it's about so much more than that.
[01:11:04.240 -> 01:11:07.000] What is it that Kevin Sinfield said? To be a hero on the pitch, you have to be a hero at home. yn gwneud iddyn nhw'n fwy bach o ffwrdd, ond mae'n ymwneud â mwy na hynny. Beth yw'r peth y mae Kevin Sinderfield wedi dweud o fod yn hero ar y pêch,
[01:11:07.000 -> 01:11:09.000] mae'n rhaid i chi fod yn hero ar y ffwrdd?
[01:11:09.000 -> 01:11:12.000] Ac rwy'n credu bod y math o sgwrsau i bobl fel Daniel yn eu gallu eu gwneud
[01:11:12.000 -> 01:11:15.000] mewn cyd-dreth dros eu bywydau yma a'u gwaith,
[01:11:15.000 -> 01:11:18.000] y gallant fod yn hero ar y ffwrdd, sy'n mynd i'w gwneud
[01:11:18.000 -> 01:11:21.000] yn fwy o hero ar y pêch, oherwydd byddant yn ymwneud â mwy o ffwrdd.
[01:11:21.000 -> 01:11:49.040] Ie, mae pobl glir yn ymwneud â gynnal, mae pobl glir yn ymwneud â gynnal yn ymwneud â gynnal yn well na'r norm, Jake, pan fyddwch chi'n mwynhau'r hyn rydych chi'n ymwneud â'r fath y byddai'n ymwneud â'r fath y byddai'n ymwneud â'r fath y byddai'n ymwneud â'r fath y byddai'n ymwneud â'r fath y byddai'n ymwneud â'r fath y byddai'n ymwneud â'r fath y byddai'n ymwneud â'r fath y byddai'n ymwneud â'r fath y byddai'n ymwneud â'r fath y byddai'n ymwneud ag y fath y byddai'n ymwneud ag y fath y byddai'n ymwneud ag y fath y byddai'n ymwneud ag y fath y byddai'n ymwneud ag y fath y byddai'n ymwneud ag y fath y byddai'n ymwneud ag y fath y byddai'n ymwneud ag y fath y byddai'n ymwneud ag y fath y byddai'n ymwneud ag y fath y byddai'n ymwneud ag y fath y byddai'n ymwneud ag y fath y byddai'n ymwneud ag y fath y byddai'n ymwneud ag y fath y byddai'n ymwneud ag y fath y byddai'n ymwneud ag y fath y byddai'n ymwneud ag y fath y byddai'n ymwneud ag y fath yw un sy'n clywed hyn a mynd yn iawn, dydw i ddim yn cael cyflwyno i'r psycholog, dwi ddim yn siŵr y gallwn gael hynny. Rwy'n gobeithio, efallai yn ein ffordd mawr,
[01:11:49.040 -> 01:11:53.440] eu bod yn clywed ar ein podcast ar y cyflymau arbennig. Mae'n cael cyflwyno at y
[01:11:53.440 -> 01:11:59.120] math o gwestiynau a ydynt yn cael eu gofyn ac yn ymdrechu arnynt, ac y gallent wneud hyn,
[01:11:59.120 -> 01:12:06.560] oherwydd yw'n unig neu gyda teulu neu ddwyindiau, gallant ddweud rhai o'r dysguau ac ymdrechu ar eu bywydau eu hunain.
[01:12:06.560 -> 01:12:08.000] Brif, ddod o'r ddewis.
[01:12:08.000 -> 01:12:10.320] Damian, diolch yn fawr.
[01:12:10.320 -> 01:12:10.960] Rwy'n credu, dwi'n meddwl,
[01:12:10.960 -> 01:12:12.120] mae fy mod i'n ymdrechu
[01:12:12.120 -> 01:12:25.280] ar ôl hynny. Dwi'n mor ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim yn ddim rather be involved in the Euros than sitting in LA, wondering what his future holds.
[01:12:25.280 -> 01:12:28.080] Yeah, and I'd echo what you just said, Jake.
[01:12:28.080 -> 01:12:29.320] I wish him the best of luck,
[01:12:29.320 -> 01:12:32.240] not just in this next chapter of his football career,
[01:12:32.240 -> 01:12:34.880] but in the next chapter of his life as well.
[01:12:34.880 -> 01:12:36.120] Thanks, Damien.
[01:12:36.120 -> 01:12:36.940] Thanks, mate.
[01:12:40.260 -> 01:12:42.080] Thank you so much for joining us
[01:12:42.080 -> 01:12:44.200] for this episode of the High Performance Podcast.
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