Podcast: The High Performance
Published Date:
Mon, 19 Apr 2021 00:00:51 GMT
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1:15:45
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Stuart Webber is the Sporting Director of Norwich City Football Club, who have just secured promotion back to the Premier League.
Stuart took the role in April 2017, having previously worked as Head of Football Operations at Huddersfield Town and had previous roles at Wolves, Queens Park Rangers, Liverpool and Wrexham.
Stuart has transformed the Canaries on and off the pitch, with new facilities and sustained success, adhering to their long-term values rather than short-term interests.
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[00:00.000 -> 00:05.000] Hi there, welcome along to another episode of the High Performance Podcast.
[00:05.000 -> 00:06.600] Nice to have you coming back for more.
[00:06.600 -> 00:09.500] Just a quick reminder, we have a book coming out.
[00:09.500 -> 00:11.100] You can pre-order the book right now.
[00:11.100 -> 00:13.400] Just go to the description for this podcast,
[00:13.400 -> 00:17.200] click on the link and you can pre-order the book that comes out in December.
[00:17.200 -> 00:21.800] Basically, it's Damien and I looking back over the interviews that we've done on this podcast
[00:21.800 -> 00:28.340] and plenty more content as well as we reveal how all of us can become high-performance. But as well as that
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[00:32.300 -> 00:36.560] announced this a week or so ago and already thousands of people are signing
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[00:45.160 -> 00:51.180] Short 15 minute inspiring conversations, keynote speeches, high performance podcast episodes
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[00:54.160 -> 00:56.100] It's a really, really exciting place.
[00:56.100 -> 00:57.860] It's called the High Performance Circle.
[00:57.860 -> 01:03.180] And all you need to do to sign up is go to highperformancepodcast.com, put your email
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[01:05.800 -> 01:10.920] your invite. And the best news of all, membership is free! So if you want to be
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[01:27.120 -> 01:28.800] I've been here about two days
[01:28.800 -> 01:31.720] and everyone I spoke to, every head of department,
[01:31.720 -> 01:35.020] kept quoting this best in class line.
[01:35.020 -> 01:36.600] So I've been about two days
[01:36.600 -> 01:38.040] and my head was going early here.
[01:38.040 -> 01:39.480] I got to say my head was gone.
[01:39.480 -> 01:40.600] I said, hang on a minute.
[01:40.600 -> 01:42.840] I said to one of them, who's not here now, I said,
[01:42.840 -> 01:44.360] explain this to me then.
[01:44.360 -> 01:46.320] You've got a gym where you couldn't swing a cat in it.
[01:46.320 -> 01:48.040] You've got a training pitch with a hill in it.
[01:48.040 -> 01:49.800] You've got no floodlights, so you can't train in the winter
[01:49.800 -> 01:51.440] when it's four o'clock and it's dark.
[01:51.440 -> 01:53.400] I said, the restaurant is a disgrace.
[01:53.400 -> 01:55.640] What a horrendous environment, no one would want to eat in there.
[01:55.640 -> 01:58.040] You've got 49 porter cabins.
[01:58.040 -> 01:59.080] Is that best in class?
[01:59.080 -> 02:00.280] Because if that is, we've got a problem, mate,
[02:00.280 -> 02:03.440] because we are at different scales of what best looks like.
[02:03.440 -> 02:05.880] That's what the place was.
[02:11.480 -> 02:13.760] As a person with a very deep voice,
[02:13.760 -> 02:16.760] I'm hired all the time for advertising campaigns,
[02:16.760 -> 02:19.000] but a deep voice doesn't sell B2B,
[02:19.000 -> 02:20.720] and advertising on the wrong platform
[02:20.720 -> 02:22.440] doesn't sell B2B either.
[02:22.440 -> 02:24.320] That's why if you're a B2B marketer,
[02:24.320 -> 02:29.320] you should use LinkedIn ads. LinkedIn has the targeting capabilities to help you reach the world's
[02:29.320 -> 02:34.560] largest professional audience. That's right, over 70 million decision makers all in one
[02:34.560 -> 02:40.120] place. All the bigwigs, then mediumwigs, also smallwigs who are on the path to becoming
[02:40.120 -> 02:44.840] bigwigs. Okay, that's enough about wigs. LinkedIn ads allows you to focus on getting
[02:44.840 -> 02:47.240] your B2B message to the right people.
[02:47.240 -> 02:52.640] So, does that mean you should use ads on LinkedIn instead of hiring me, the man with the deepest
[02:52.640 -> 02:54.000] voice in the world?
[02:54.000 -> 02:55.000] Yes.
[02:55.000 -> 02:56.240] Yes, it does.
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[04:52.520 -> 04:53.840] Okay, let's get to it then.
[04:53.840 -> 04:55.440] Are you gonna love this episode?
[04:55.440 -> 04:56.720] I know you are.
[04:56.720 -> 04:58.260] Thanks so much for coming back for more.
[04:58.260 -> 05:00.440] Thanks for talking about the pod, for sharing the pod,
[05:00.440 -> 05:03.200] for following us on YouTube and Instagram.
[05:03.200 -> 05:06.240] Damien and myself are really enjoying this most,
[05:06.240 -> 05:10.960] Damien and myself are really loving this fourth series of the podcast. And if you're new,
[05:10.960 -> 05:15.600] of course, you can go right back to the beginning and start listening from there. But let's do it.
[05:15.600 -> 05:20.560] Okay, let's get to it. You're going to love this episode. I know you are. Thanks so much for coming
[05:20.560 -> 05:26.160] back for more. Thanks for talking about the pod, for sharing the pod, for following us on YouTube and Instagram,
[05:26.160 -> 05:27.560] Damian and myself.
[05:27.560 -> 05:29.420] Damian and myself are really loving
[05:29.420 -> 05:31.240] this fourth series of the podcast.
[05:31.240 -> 05:32.680] And if you're new, of course,
[05:32.680 -> 05:34.480] you can go right back to the beginning
[05:34.480 -> 05:36.000] and start listening from there.
[05:36.000 -> 05:36.840] But let's do it.
[05:36.840 -> 05:39.720] It's time for this high-performance podcast.
[05:39.720 -> 05:41.420] Before we get going, just a quick warning
[05:41.420 -> 05:43.760] that Stuart uses some rather colorful language.
[05:43.760 -> 05:48.640] So if that offends you or you're around young ears, feel free not to listen.
[05:48.640 -> 05:55.940] Hi there, I'm Jay Comfrey and you're listening to High Performance, the podcast that delves
[05:55.940 -> 06:00.800] into the minds of some of the most successful athletes, visionaries, entrepreneurs and leaders
[06:00.800 -> 06:27.000] on the planet to unlock the very secrets to their success. Now, everyone needs a professor in their life and mine is also a psychologist and author. He's a phrofessorau a phrofessorau a phrofessorau a phrofessorau a phrofessorau a phrofessorau a phrofessorau a phrofessorau a phrofessorau a phrofessorau a phrofessorau a phrofessorau a phrofessorau a phrofessorau a phrofessorau a professorau a professorau a professorau a professorau a professorau a professorau a professorau a professorau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professorsau a professors Yn ystod y cyfan, rydyn ni'n ymwneud â dyn sy'n ymwneud ag y podcast hon, o'r gwir? Ie, rwy'n edrych yn ffodus arno, Jake.
[06:27.000 -> 06:30.000] Os oeddwn i'n cyfnodi'r gwestiynau heno,
[06:30.000 -> 06:35.000] rwy'n credu bod ei gynhyrchol yn bod yn dyn sy'n ddysgu yn ddysgu ddim.
[06:35.000 -> 06:38.000] Ac rwy'n credu bod hynny'n cymryd llawer o bethau,
[06:38.000 -> 06:41.000] ymdrechion, gweld ymdrechion a'r ddiddorol.
[06:41.000 -> 06:43.000] Rwy'n edrych arno i ddod ymlaen i hynny.
[06:43.000 -> 06:49.200] Ac os ydych chi'n meddwl sut y gafodd Damian a fi gael gwrthdod, authenticity. I love that. Look forward to getting into that a bit further. And if you're wondering how Damien and I met, well, this man also thinks outside the box. And he brought Damien in to speak
[06:49.200 -> 06:53.120] to the staff at the football club where he works to speak to the players. He kindly invited me
[06:53.120 -> 06:58.080] along to have a listen. And from there on the high performance podcast was born. So let's get to it
[06:58.080 -> 07:02.480] then and welcome a man who is one of the most sought after directors of football in Europe.
[07:02.480 -> 07:08.400] Getting to the Premier League once is impressive. This man has masterminded three promotions with two
[07:08.400 -> 07:13.000] clubs in just the last few years. However, what we want to do is go deep into how
[07:13.000 -> 07:17.380] he's done it from being a groundsman at Wrexham to leading an entire club by
[07:17.380 -> 07:21.200] the time he was in his mid-30s. Where did that self-belief come from? Who and what
[07:21.200 -> 07:26.000] served as inspiration? And how have the failures, although they're few, how have they fuelled the flight as well? It's an absolute pleasure to welcome to the a ddod o'r cyd, a pha a beth a oedd yn gweithredu. Ac sut mae'r ffailiau, er bod nhw'n ddau,
[07:26.000 -> 07:29.000] sut maen nhw'n ffwilio'r fflwyd hefyd?
[07:29.000 -> 07:32.000] Mae'n ddiolch iawn i'w welcomo i'r podcast High Performance, Stuart Webber.
[07:32.000 -> 07:35.000] Diolch i chi, diolch i chi. Ffans fach o'ch gwaith.
[07:35.000 -> 07:38.000] Dydw i ddim yn sylwi oedd y rhesymau hwn, ond ddw i'n gwybod.
[07:38.000 -> 07:41.000] Diolch. Mae'n honno ddod o'r cyfan i fod yma.
[07:41.000 -> 07:44.000] Dwi'n hoffi'r cwmni.
[07:44.000 -> 07:45.280] Mae gennych chi'r rhai o'r bobl sy'n fy ysbrydoli i mi y mwyaf arno.
[07:45.280 -> 07:48.080] Rydym wedi cyfrifo'r gwybodaethau llawer amdano,
[07:48.080 -> 07:49.280] ond mae wedi bod yn dda.
[07:49.280 -> 07:51.280] Mae hefyd wedi bod yn dda i ddarlitho'r bobl rydw i ddim wedi clywed,
[07:51.280 -> 07:54.480] pobl fel Holly Tucker a Joe Malone,
[07:54.480 -> 07:56.960] a phobl sy'n y byd rydw i'n byw,
[07:56.960 -> 07:59.520] ond mae clywed nhw a dysgu o'u gwaith wedi bod yn ffasinnach.
[07:59.520 -> 08:01.520] Rwy'n credu y bydd eich gwaith yn anhygoel.
[08:01.520 -> 08:02.720] Felly, diolch i mi,
[08:02.720 -> 08:03.120] ac rwy'n siŵr, rydw i'n siŵr, rydw i'n siŵr,
[08:03.120 -> 08:04.400] rydw i'n siŵr, dweud ar ddiweddarach o lawer o bobl.
[08:04.400 -> 08:07.080] Mae'n dda iawn i chi, diolch. what you're doing is incredible. So for myself, thank you for that. And I'm sure speak on behalf of a lot of people. So kind of you, thank you.
[08:07.080 -> 08:08.120] Let's get to it then.
[08:08.120 -> 08:10.420] What is high performance?
[08:10.420 -> 08:11.720] I think it's tough to answer.
[08:11.720 -> 08:14.120] I think everyone will have their own opinion on it.
[08:14.120 -> 08:17.120] For me, it comes down to working at a consistent level,
[08:17.120 -> 08:18.980] but I also think it's about, you know,
[08:18.980 -> 08:20.520] I want to be a high performance father.
[08:20.520 -> 08:22.400] I want to be a high performance husband.
[08:22.400 -> 08:25.960] I believe we have high performance groundsman here,
[08:25.960 -> 08:28.980] high performance physios, high performance chefs like that.
[08:28.980 -> 08:30.420] I don't think it's necessarily just people
[08:30.420 -> 08:31.800] at top of organizations.
[08:31.800 -> 08:34.100] I think it's about doing the best you can,
[08:34.100 -> 08:36.540] but on a consistent level, of course,
[08:36.540 -> 08:38.460] making mistakes along the way and accepting that
[08:38.460 -> 08:39.380] as part of the journey.
[08:39.380 -> 08:40.980] And I think that's, I'm sure we'll go into that today,
[08:40.980 -> 08:42.460] but I think you've got to accept early
[08:42.460 -> 08:44.900] that you can't be a high performing husband all the time.
[08:44.900 -> 08:45.720] You will make mistakes. You can't be a high-performing husband all the time. You will make mistakes.
[08:45.720 -> 08:47.880] You can't be a high-performing parent all the time,
[08:47.880 -> 08:50.640] but it's that striving to be the best,
[08:50.640 -> 08:51.880] but striving to be it every day.
[08:51.880 -> 08:54.840] For me, it's the consistency is the key bit.
[08:54.840 -> 08:57.280] And we've had people on this podcast that say
[08:57.280 -> 09:00.200] only certain people can be high performance.
[09:00.200 -> 09:03.560] Yeah, you've named numerous roles at this football club
[09:03.560 -> 09:06.440] and you want people in those roles who are high performers.
[09:06.440 -> 09:10.320] Do you think that anyone can either learn to be high performance
[09:10.320 -> 09:13.400] or has the potential to be high performance?
[09:13.400 -> 09:15.720] Yeah, 100%. I think it's...
[09:15.720 -> 09:19.040] I don't think it's about being special or being gifted or anything like that.
[09:19.040 -> 09:22.480] I think, you know, and I'd like to think I'm living proof of someone
[09:22.480 -> 09:25.240] who's, you know, who's doing all right for themselves,
[09:25.240 -> 09:27.600] who's come from a real humble beginner.
[09:27.600 -> 09:29.640] I come from a village called Cumsum Log,
[09:29.640 -> 09:31.360] of which there's probably about 10 people in the world
[09:31.360 -> 09:32.200] who've heard of it.
[09:32.200 -> 09:36.440] And I was brought up with a single mom,
[09:36.440 -> 09:38.000] et cetera, et cetera, all these things,
[09:38.000 -> 09:39.920] no academic qualification.
[09:39.920 -> 09:41.560] And I'm doing all right, I think.
[09:41.560 -> 09:44.720] And I think it's a mindset, it's an attitude,
[09:44.720 -> 09:46.020] it's your behaviors. It's your behaviors.
[09:46.020 -> 09:48.820] It's not about, oh yeah, he's lucky he went to this school
[09:48.820 -> 09:50.480] or he's lucky he got this opportunity
[09:50.480 -> 09:51.820] or he must be special.
[09:51.820 -> 09:53.480] He was born with a gift or whatever.
[09:53.480 -> 09:54.340] I think that's rubbish.
[09:54.340 -> 09:55.760] I think it's about your mindset.
[09:55.760 -> 09:57.000] It's your decisions you make.
[09:57.000 -> 09:58.600] Becoming a high performance father,
[09:58.600 -> 09:59.740] that's anyone could do that.
[09:59.740 -> 10:00.580] Cause it's a bit like, well,
[10:00.580 -> 10:02.000] your behaviors can still be high performance.
[10:02.000 -> 10:04.120] The values you instill in your child
[10:04.120 -> 10:05.000] are still high performance. That's not, you're not gifted that. That's a choice in my opinion. Mae'n ddiddorol bod y gwaith yn gallu bod yn gynhwysol. Mae'r gwerthau y byddwch chi'n ei ddiddorol yn eich plant yn gynhwysol.
[10:05.000 -> 10:07.000] Dyddech chi ddim yn eu gwneud.
[10:07.000 -> 10:26.400] Dyna'r penderfyniad, yn fy mhobl. Ych Pan wyt ti'n gweld pobl ddim yn cymryd cymorth,
[10:26.400 -> 10:27.760] roedd rhywun wedi dweud wrthym,
[10:27.760 -> 10:29.920] dydych chi'n unig ymlaen, nid yw'n ymgyrchu.
[10:29.920 -> 10:33.160] Felly rwy'n credu bod y cymorth o'r cwmni yn cymryd cymorth.
[10:33.160 -> 10:35.040] Pan ydych chi'n cymryd eich hysgrifau diweddarach,
[10:35.040 -> 10:36.080] rydych chi eisiau edrych yn ôl a dweud,
[10:36.080 -> 10:37.280] dwi'n gwybod, rydw i'n gwneud iawn,
[10:37.280 -> 10:38.600] rydw i'n gwneud, rydw i'n gwneud iawn,
[10:38.600 -> 10:40.560] yn hytrach na'n edrych yn ôl a dweud,
[10:40.560 -> 10:41.760] os yna.
[10:41.760 -> 10:42.920] Pa mor ddangos yw hynny?
[10:42.920 -> 10:44.280] Eich hysgrifau diweddarach, os yna.
[10:44.280 -> 10:45.000] Hirwain. Mae'n sylfaen mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud,
[10:45.000 -> 10:46.000] mae'n dweud,
[10:46.000 -> 10:47.000] mae'n dweud,
[10:47.000 -> 10:48.000] mae'n dweud,
[10:48.000 -> 10:49.000] mae'n dweud,
[10:49.000 -> 10:50.000] mae'n dweud,
[10:50.000 -> 10:51.000] mae'n dweud,
[10:51.000 -> 10:52.000] mae'n dweud,
[10:52.000 -> 10:53.000] mae'n dweud,
[10:53.000 -> 10:54.000] mae'n dweud,
[10:54.000 -> 10:55.000] mae'n dweud,
[10:55.000 -> 10:56.000] mae'n dweud,
[10:56.000 -> 10:57.000] mae'n dweud,
[10:57.000 -> 10:58.000] mae'n dweud,
[10:58.000 -> 10:59.000] mae'n dweud,
[10:59.000 -> 11:00.000] mae'n dweud,
[11:00.000 -> 11:01.000] mae'n dweud,
[11:01.000 -> 11:02.000] mae'n dweud,
[11:02.000 -> 11:03.000] mae'n dweud,
[11:03.000 -> 11:04.000] mae'n dweud,
[11:04.000 -> 11:06.000] mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae' ffordd i gyd. Pan ddewiswch chi'r peni? Rwy'n credu, roeddwn i'n ddigon llwyr
[11:06.000 -> 11:08.000] fod fy mam yn anhygoel
[11:08.000 -> 11:10.000] yn anhygoel,
[11:10.000 -> 11:12.000] y person mwy anhygoel rydw i'n gwybod.
[11:12.000 -> 11:14.000] Rydw i'n credu bod
[11:14.000 -> 11:16.000] hi'n mynd i fy nghymryd i mewn i mewn.
[11:16.000 -> 11:18.000] Ond roedd hi'n byw,
[11:18.000 -> 11:20.000] rwy'n gobeithio, nawr,
[11:20.000 -> 11:22.000] fod yn fater,
[11:22.000 -> 11:24.000] dydych chi ddim yn gobeithio hwnnw'n anhygoel pan oeddech chi'n dyn.
[11:24.000 -> 11:25.920] Ond roedd hi'n byw, nawr, gallwch chi wneud yr hyn rydych chi eisiau, gallwch chi gael yr hyn rydych chi eisiau, being a parent about her. You don't respect it necessarily when you're a kid, but she was always like, now you can do what you want.
[11:25.920 -> 11:27.480] You can achieve what you want,
[11:27.480 -> 11:29.080] but you got to go and make it happen.
[11:29.080 -> 11:30.520] It isn't going to come to you.
[11:30.520 -> 11:31.840] And she used to like work two jobs.
[11:31.840 -> 11:34.000] And I used to look and think, my God,
[11:34.000 -> 11:34.880] she works her nuts off.
[11:34.880 -> 11:36.080] I worked that really early.
[11:36.080 -> 11:36.960] I was probably eight or nine.
[11:36.960 -> 11:38.240] I used to think to myself,
[11:38.240 -> 11:39.800] she's never off on a weekend or whatever.
[11:39.800 -> 11:40.640] If I want to go to football,
[11:40.640 -> 11:42.160] I got to catch a bus to go to there
[11:42.160 -> 11:43.480] or I've got to do this and do that.
[11:43.480 -> 11:44.320] But cause she's working,
[11:44.320 -> 11:47.000] she's not sat on her ass watching Emmerdale repeat or whatever.
[11:47.000 -> 11:48.800] I sort of always saw that as work ethics.
[11:48.800 -> 11:52.400] I always had in my head from a young age, I've got to work hard.
[11:52.400 -> 11:55.600] It's only now or when I become an adult that I realised what she was doing weren't normal.
[11:55.600 -> 11:58.400] But at the time, I was just, that's normal, that's what you do.
[11:58.400 -> 11:59.400] I really struggled at school.
[11:59.400 -> 12:01.300] I hated it to be honest, but I was dyslexic.
[12:01.300 -> 12:04.700] But then what I did is I started reading a lot.
[12:04.700 -> 12:08.020] So I taught myself to read and my mom sort of forced it
[12:08.020 -> 12:10.200] because she worked out he's only into football
[12:10.200 -> 12:12.740] and Formula One, that's all he's interested in.
[12:12.740 -> 12:15.300] So I'll give him some football to read.
[12:15.300 -> 12:20.300] I always had a dream as a kid of winning the Premier League.
[12:20.420 -> 12:22.820] Always had a dream as a kid, but not as a player
[12:22.820 -> 12:24.340] because I worked out early that I weren't good enough
[12:24.340 -> 12:26.280] as a player, but I always had a dream of winning the Premier League. And, you know, I used to go and watch football or whatever. Roeddwn i bob amser yn meddwl, ond nid oeddwn i'n chwaraewr. Roeddwn i'n gwybod yn awyr iawn na fy mod i'n dda o ran chwaraewr. Roeddwn i bob amser yn meddwl o fwytau'r Llyfrgell Cyhoeddus.
[12:26.280 -> 12:29.480] Roeddwn i'n mynd i wylio ffotbol,
[12:29.480 -> 12:30.240] ac roeddwn i'n meddwl,
[12:30.240 -> 12:32.640] mae'r sylwadau'n anhygoel yno,
[12:32.640 -> 12:33.760] ar ddiwedd y gêm.
[12:33.760 -> 12:35.760] Roeddwn i bob amser yn meddwl,
[12:35.760 -> 12:36.480] o ran y gwirioneddau,
[12:36.480 -> 12:38.720] ond dim ond 3,000 neu 4,000 o'ch faniaid.
[12:38.720 -> 12:39.040] Roeddwn i'n meddwl,
[12:39.040 -> 12:41.040] mae'r sylwadau'n anhygoel yno,
[12:41.040 -> 12:43.040] lle mae'r rhan fwyaf o'r farchnad yn mynd i'r llwyr.
[12:43.040 -> 12:45.520] Ac mae gennych chi'n ddiweddar gyda'ch faniaid, ac mae'r sylwadau'n anhygoel yno. Roeddwn i'n meddwl, mae'n rhaid i mi wneud hynny'n digwydd. that moment B where the rest of the ground is getting empty and you're just over with your fans
[12:45.520 -> 12:46.560] and that sort of moment.
[12:46.560 -> 12:48.080] And I was always like,
[12:48.080 -> 12:49.780] I've got to try and make that happen somehow.
[12:49.780 -> 12:51.160] And when you don't know how to do it, do you?
[12:51.160 -> 12:52.960] Cause I'm talking about being a kid here,
[12:52.960 -> 12:54.120] so I don't know how to do it.
[12:54.120 -> 12:58.140] But what I did work out was I've got to leave
[12:58.140 -> 13:01.440] the town I was from because everyone around me,
[13:01.440 -> 13:04.600] with exception of my mum, were, you know what?
[13:04.600 -> 13:05.560] You'll probably get a job
[13:05.560 -> 13:07.160] in the garden center here,
[13:07.160 -> 13:08.600] or you'll get a job here or a job there.
[13:08.600 -> 13:11.640] And I'm like, no, I'm leaving here at 16.
[13:11.640 -> 13:13.120] First opportunity I can get out of this town,
[13:13.120 -> 13:14.400] I'm getting out of this town,
[13:14.400 -> 13:17.200] because I can be quite stubborn.
[13:17.200 -> 13:20.000] I know what I want, and I love proving people wrong.
[13:20.000 -> 13:21.360] I had the bollocks to do things.
[13:21.360 -> 13:27.000] I left at 16, I went up to a college in North Wales to dos mewn horticwltr. Ond ar gyfer cyfathrebu i chi, fel arbenigwyr,
[13:27.000 -> 13:29.000] beth oedd hynny'n golygu ar y 16 oed,
[13:29.000 -> 13:32.000] pa ffordd o'ch neb i fyny i'r Cymru?
[13:32.000 -> 13:34.000] Felly, tri awr.
[13:34.000 -> 13:37.000] Roeddwn i'n cael fy nghyfathrebu ar y dydd Iawn
[13:37.000 -> 13:39.000] a'r bus yn ôl ar y dydd Ffridi.
[13:39.000 -> 13:43.000] Roeddwn i'n cael fy nghollu i'r lleoedd hyfryd a chyffredinol yng Nghymru
[13:43.000 -> 13:44.000] ar y ffordd i'r ôl.
[13:44.000 -> 13:48.040] Felly, roeddwn i'n gwneud hy, it's a BTEC or something, in horticulture,
[13:48.040 -> 13:51.840] it was the best thing I ever did because it got me out of there. That's when opportunities
[13:51.840 -> 13:57.600] came up and I saw a chance to go into Wrexham Football Club, obviously in the conference
[13:57.600 -> 14:00.880] now, but they were in League One at the time. And they said I could join their ground staff
[14:00.880 -> 14:05.120] once one day a week as like work experience. And that was my, my route in.
[14:08.280 -> 14:08.440] Cause what I was doing then was got there first thing in the morning,
[14:09.200 -> 14:09.240] do a bit of work.
[14:12.120 -> 14:13.240] And I watched the first team train and it's people like Darren Ferguson, who's now Peterborough manager.
[14:13.240 -> 14:15.880] It was like Chris Armstrong was it was a striker back then people like Lee
[14:15.880 -> 14:17.440] Trundle, et cetera, et cetera.
[14:17.560 -> 14:20.560] For me, it was like watching the best players in the world ever train.
[14:21.000 -> 14:24.080] I'm just on the side of the pitch with a fork going, this is unbelievable.
[14:24.520 -> 14:45.600] Watching Dennis Smith, who'd managed a thousand games. Iawn, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r ddau o'r ddau, i'r dwyddoniaeth. Roeddwn i'n gofyn, gallaf hynny'n ymwneud â'r Gwyddoniaeth ym mis hwnnw?
[14:45.600 -> 14:46.560] Nid wyf yn ei gael,
[14:46.560 -> 14:47.520] ond rhaid i mi gael y profiad.
[14:47.520 -> 14:48.480] Iawn, dim problem.
[14:48.480 -> 14:49.680] Yn unig os ydych chi'n dda,
[14:49.680 -> 14:50.480] byddwn i'n rhoi'ch cyfle.
[14:50.480 -> 14:51.280] Fe wnaethon ni fynd,
[14:51.280 -> 14:53.280] ac yna roeddent i fynd i'r tîm o'r 12 oed
[14:53.280 -> 14:54.640] i fynd i fy hun ym mis nesaf,
[14:54.640 -> 14:56.160] sy'n gwneud yn fwy na'r ffinal o'r Cymru.
[14:56.160 -> 14:57.280] Oh, fy myned, fy mhreg.
[14:57.280 -> 14:58.080] Dyma'n anhygoel.
[14:58.080 -> 14:59.040] Byddwn i'n mynd i fy mhreg,
[14:59.040 -> 14:59.680] y 12 oed,
[14:59.680 -> 15:01.120] ac roeddwn i'n meddwl oeddwn i'n Mourinho
[15:01.120 -> 15:02.160] a'r rest o'i gilydd.
[15:02.160 -> 15:03.520] Roeddwn i'n gobeithio pethau
[15:03.520 -> 15:05.000] ac roedd yn profiad wych ac roeddwn i wedi gweithio o'r fan hynny trwy'r gwaith y badgeau. Yn y blynyddoedd, yn i'n marinio a phopeth arall. Roeddwn i'n profi pethau ac roedd yn brofiad arall.
[15:05.000 -> 15:07.000] Ac roeddwn i'n gweithio ymlaen, yn ystod fy ngwyrddau.
[15:07.000 -> 15:09.000] Yn ystod gweithio fel gynradd.
[15:09.000 -> 15:10.000] Yn ystod gweithio fel gynradd, ie.
[15:10.000 -> 15:11.000] Ac yna, beth sydd wedi digwydd,
[15:11.000 -> 15:12.000] yw'r rheolwr, yn ddiweddar,
[15:12.000 -> 15:13.000] wedi cael ei ffwrdd,
[15:13.000 -> 15:14.000] neu yn ddiweddar i mi.
[15:14.000 -> 15:16.000] Ac yna, mae Steve Weaver wedi mynd o fod yn rheolwr i gynadledd
[15:16.000 -> 15:18.000] i fod yn rheolwr asystant.
[15:18.000 -> 15:20.000] Ac Steve Cooper, sydd ar hyn o bryd yn rheolwr Swansea,
[15:20.000 -> 15:22.000] roedd ei asystant yn cael ei gynadledd
[15:22.000 -> 15:24.000] ac yna fe wnaeth hi fydd yn rhoi'r asystant.
[15:24.000 -> 15:26.000] Felly ar y pwynt honno, roeddwn id i'n fwy o amser yn y ddyn,
[15:26.000 -> 15:28.000] sy'n ddifrifol.
[15:28.000 -> 15:30.000] A oedd yna unrhyw ddifrifol
[15:30.000 -> 15:32.000] ar gyfer ymdrechu
[15:32.000 -> 15:34.000] yna ar gyfer eich sioe?
[15:34.000 -> 15:36.000] Oherwydd dydych chi'n ymdrechwr,
[15:36.000 -> 15:38.000] ac mae pobl eisiau i chi ddod i mewn i'r llwybr,
[15:38.000 -> 15:40.000] ond dyna rydych chi gyda'r hoffi a'r
[15:40.000 -> 15:42.000] ffodus i'w hyrwyddo,
[15:42.000 -> 15:44.000] ac rydych chi'n cymryd y 12 oed.
[15:44.000 -> 15:45.000] Sut wnaethon nhw gyrraedd hynny? Roedd hwnna'n anodd.
[15:45.000 -> 15:47.000] Roedd dyddiau rydw i eisiau rhoi'r cymorth
[15:47.000 -> 15:49.000] a ddim y coaching oherwydd roeddwn i'n meddwl
[15:49.000 -> 15:52.000] roeddwn i'n cael fy ngwthio'n ddiweddarach,
[15:52.000 -> 15:55.000] roeddwn i'n teimlo'n anodd iawn amdano.
[15:55.000 -> 15:56.000] Roeddwn i'n meddwl,
[15:56.000 -> 15:58.000] pam fyddai'r cwmni'n mynd i'r coaching i mi?
[15:58.000 -> 15:59.000] Oherwydd roeddent yn gweld fi fel un o'r gweithwyr.
[15:59.000 -> 16:01.000] Pa mor ffyrdd i mi gael fy nwydd o'r cyfrifiad?
[16:01.000 -> 16:02.000] Roedd hwnna'n anodd.
[16:02.000 -> 16:04.000] Roeddwch chi'n dysgu eich mecanwyr coaching
[16:04.000 -> 16:06.520] ac roeddwch chi'n dysgu i fod yn ddiogel gyda chi. And it was tough and you learn your coping mechanisms and you learn to be honest with yourself.
[16:06.520 -> 16:11.520] And I learned to have my moments where I'll go home
[16:11.560 -> 16:13.660] and be upset and be down,
[16:13.660 -> 16:15.360] but not let people see it and deal with it.
[16:15.360 -> 16:18.480] But then also liven yourself up and go, right, come on.
[16:18.480 -> 16:21.480] But one thing I know is I can outwork anyone.
[16:21.480 -> 16:22.680] I truly believe that.
[16:22.680 -> 16:24.640] And that's why I would always go back to.
[16:24.640 -> 16:45.680] But can I jump in there, Stu, because there's something else that I know about you gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallwn ni ddweud, gallai hynny fod wedi bod yn ffordd leol i mewn i grwp i fod yn rhan o'r ganolbwynt fel hyn
[16:45.680 -> 16:46.920] y byddwch chi'n mynd allan i ddrinio'n gilydd
[16:46.920 -> 16:49.040] ac y byddwch chi'n dechrau'r barriers yno.
[16:49.040 -> 16:51.280] Rwy'n ymdrech i'r gored
[16:51.280 -> 16:53.840] i ddod yn ddiogel ar y principiau hwnnw o ddrinio ddiogel
[16:53.840 -> 16:55.600] a ddim yn ceisio i ddiffoddwyr
[16:55.600 -> 16:58.040] sy'n anodd i'w ddiffoddwyr.
[16:58.040 -> 16:59.960] A oes gennych chi gysylltu ychydig ychydig am
[16:59.960 -> 17:02.080] y gored i ddod yn ddiogel ar eich hun
[17:02.080 -> 17:03.720] a ble ddod o hynny,
[17:03.720 -> 17:06.200] sut rydych chi'n ei ddatblygu, sut rydych chi'n ei ddifrofi? Felly, ddod yn ddiweddar i chi a pha oedd hynny o'r ffordd rydych chi'n ei ddatblygu, rydych chi'n ei ddysgu?
[17:06.200 -> 17:07.560] Felly, nid yw'n drinio un.
[17:07.560 -> 17:09.280] Mae'n fy nhaf i mi bod y cyhoeddiad o'r nifer o bobl
[17:09.280 -> 17:10.520] wedi'i ystyried ar hynny.
[17:10.520 -> 17:11.960] Y rheswm pam na ddim yn drinio,
[17:11.960 -> 17:13.520] oherwydd y bobl,
[17:13.520 -> 17:14.360] yna mae pobl yn mynd,
[17:14.360 -> 17:15.320] oh, my, mae rhywbeth wedi digwydd yn eich bywyd.
[17:15.320 -> 17:27.300] Ac rydyn ni'n dweud, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na God only knows why I don't drink and I've never touched it is my sister's three years older than me
[17:27.300 -> 17:29.180] and I'll never forget it.
[17:29.180 -> 17:30.860] She's gone on a night out, she's about 18.
[17:30.860 -> 17:34.620] I would have been about 15 and she's come back
[17:34.620 -> 17:37.300] and she's woken me up for some reason
[17:37.300 -> 17:39.500] because she's been sick all over her room
[17:39.500 -> 17:41.180] and I've gone and seen the mess.
[17:41.180 -> 17:43.500] And I looked at it and I looked at her
[17:43.500 -> 17:45.400] and I said to myself that day,
[17:45.400 -> 17:48.720] I am never ever putting myself in that position.
[17:48.720 -> 17:50.760] So that was the day I decided not to, but yeah,
[17:50.760 -> 17:53.560] it was, I'm very happy by myself.
[17:53.560 -> 17:58.560] So I've never needed to go on nights out, be around people.
[17:58.800 -> 18:00.120] You know, I like being by myself.
[18:00.120 -> 18:02.600] I like going for a walk, but if I had one day left to live,
[18:02.600 -> 18:04.180] forget about family for a second,
[18:04.180 -> 18:09.520] in that day would be a four-hour walk by myself. So I've never craved the nights out or the rest
[18:09.520 -> 18:13.760] of it. I can never get my head around a nightclub. I've been to two. You can't hear anything. It's
[18:13.760 -> 18:18.720] just loud. But I've never cared what people think about stuff like that. I've always been,
[18:18.720 -> 18:22.560] I don't know why, whether it's a bit of single-mindedness or what, but I've never,
[18:22.560 -> 18:25.440] ever bowed to peer pressure. Dwi ddim.
[18:25.440 -> 18:26.960] Ac os ydych chi ddim yn hoffi fi am hynny, dyna'n iawn.
[18:26.960 -> 18:29.760] Dwi ddim yn newid i hynny i ffynnu.
[18:29.760 -> 18:31.160] Dwi'n teimlo'n ddiddorol o ddweud yna.
[18:31.160 -> 18:32.480] Rwy'n cofio, rwyf wedi dweud i'r dynwyr yma
[18:32.480 -> 18:33.680] pan roedden nhw'n siarad gyda fi am y swydd,
[18:33.680 -> 18:35.200] rwy'n dweud, os ydych chi eisiau i mi ddweud yna,
[18:35.200 -> 18:36.160] dwi ddim yn dod.
[18:36.160 -> 18:36.960] Ac roeddwn i'n dweud,
[18:36.960 -> 18:39.000] dyna'n un o'r pwyntau cyllid.
[18:39.000 -> 18:39.840] Dwi'n dweud, dwi ddim yn ei wneud.
[18:39.840 -> 18:40.720] Dwi ddim yn dweud yna ar y cwmniad.
[18:40.720 -> 18:42.240] Ac i ddweud y ddiddorol ar ein cyfnod cyfnod,
[18:42.240 -> 18:43.720] rwy'n dweud, dim yn ddiddorol o ddweud yna.
[18:43.720 -> 18:44.400] Oherwydd mae'n ddiddorol i mi dweud yna
[18:44.400 -> 19:05.440] pan dweud yna, dim yn ddiddorol o ddweud yna. Yn wir, mae hynny'n gwneud i chi fod yn dda oud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dweud, dwe okay to say, well, that's my non-negotiable bar. I'm going to let it go for the greater good.
[19:09.760 -> 19:10.200] Just because for me, it wasn't so much the wearing of the tie point.
[19:13.720 -> 19:14.720] It was the point of if you see this position as a guy who needs to look like he's wearing a tie and Mr.
[19:14.720 -> 19:16.840] Business, like you've got the position wrong.
[19:17.120 -> 19:20.720] It's about how you are as a person, not how you look and how you dress.
[19:20.720 -> 19:23.360] And do you say, you know, I had to say to him, listen, I will swear.
[19:23.720 -> 19:25.640] I will swear at board meetings.
[19:25.640 -> 19:28.440] I remember saying to him, I will call your baby ugly.
[19:28.440 -> 19:30.680] If you don't want that, do not employ me
[19:30.680 -> 19:33.040] because I can't sit there and find,
[19:33.040 -> 19:35.560] I'm not intelligent enough to find sexy words
[19:35.560 -> 19:37.800] to dress up Summit, which really takes going,
[19:37.800 -> 19:38.960] that is shit.
[19:38.960 -> 19:40.400] I can't dress that up.
[19:40.400 -> 19:41.880] And I said, if that's not for you,
[19:41.880 -> 19:42.880] I'm definitely not your guy.
[19:42.880 -> 19:46.240] And luckily Delia and Michael, the owners here, like, you know,
[19:46.240 -> 19:48.520] they laugh and they love it, you know, and you know, I've got Delia's wearing,
[19:48.520 -> 19:48.960] I was brilliant.
[19:49.120 -> 19:51.960] She, you know, her favorite line is he's a tosser and I love it.
[19:52.080 -> 19:54.480] Cause it's like, you know, it's just like, yeah, it's like, come on, you know,
[19:54.480 -> 19:54.960] let's um,
[19:54.960 -> 19:57.240] So it wasn't actually about not wearing a tie at all.
[19:57.280 -> 19:58.600] It was about what that represented.
[19:58.600 -> 20:02.320] Trying to put you, once again, someone trying to put you in a box and say,
[20:02.320 -> 20:03.360] that's what you need to be.
[20:03.360 -> 20:03.520] Yeah.
[20:03.520 -> 20:05.880] If it's like, you see, this as some corporate sort of role or whatever
[20:05.880 -> 20:10.820] I'm not your guy because I will challenge that and I will change that because I don't believe it is about that
[20:10.820 -> 20:11.840] I don't believe
[20:11.840 -> 20:16.400] Leadership positions are about that. I think it's about how you act and your behaviors and how you are with people
[20:16.400 -> 20:20.380] I can't be fake. I can't do you know, I'll be honest when when I mess up
[20:20.380 -> 20:23.600] I'm the first to say I don't you know to tell me I'm the first to go. Yeah
[20:24.080 -> 20:26.360] Sorry about that. I'll learn from it and I'll get better.
[20:26.360 -> 20:28.600] I don't need to play a political game of,
[20:28.600 -> 20:30.000] oh, the reason it went wrong is because of this,
[20:30.000 -> 20:30.840] this, and this, and this.
[20:30.840 -> 20:32.160] It's like, oh, it just went wrong.
[20:32.160 -> 20:33.960] And I'm your man, if you want someone to blame, blame me.
[20:33.960 -> 20:34.800] It's all right.
[20:34.800 -> 20:36.520] Rather than being, yeah, too corporatey
[20:36.520 -> 20:37.920] and too many big words.
[20:37.920 -> 20:39.640] So how does that work then
[20:39.640 -> 20:41.520] when it comes to running a football club?
[20:41.520 -> 20:42.960] Because I remember talking to Sean Dyche,
[20:42.960 -> 20:44.560] do you remember, and he was like, right,
[20:44.560 -> 20:47.040] no headphones when we travel, only wear this.
[20:47.040 -> 20:48.880] Well, you know, you have to bring players here
[20:48.880 -> 20:49.720] and you have to say, right,
[20:49.720 -> 20:50.560] these are the rules when we travel,
[20:50.560 -> 20:51.680] you're going to wear this outfit.
[20:51.680 -> 20:52.880] When we train, you're going to turn up
[20:52.880 -> 20:54.360] precisely at this moment.
[20:54.360 -> 20:56.600] These are the rules for operating
[20:56.600 -> 20:58.560] under my regime at Norwich City.
[20:58.560 -> 21:01.660] Yet, you've just told us that it's not about that,
[21:01.660 -> 21:03.520] it's about who you truly are.
[21:03.520 -> 21:05.560] So you're trying to create something here
[21:05.560 -> 21:07.240] where you want people to stick to rules
[21:07.240 -> 21:08.960] and regulations and standards,
[21:08.960 -> 21:11.000] but you've also at the same time got to kind of
[21:11.000 -> 21:13.200] see beyond that and see the person behind this.
[21:13.200 -> 21:15.160] How does that work out?
[21:15.160 -> 21:16.880] So we're not really strict on rules.
[21:16.880 -> 21:18.400] So if someone's two minutes late,
[21:18.400 -> 21:19.240] the lads sort that out,
[21:19.240 -> 21:21.200] that's for the players to sort out.
[21:21.200 -> 21:23.360] If it's a strict breach of discipline,
[21:23.360 -> 21:24.200] then yeah, it's different.
[21:24.200 -> 21:28.000] If someone's been sent off for spitting at someone or something, then yeah, that's a major breach of discipline.
[21:28.000 -> 21:32.000] It goes against our values. You have to deal with that in an appropriate sort of manner.
[21:32.000 -> 21:36.000] But if someone wants to wear headphones on a bus, wear headphones on a bus.
[21:36.000 -> 21:40.000] If that helps you perform, that's fine. As long as you're not disrespectful with anything that you're doing,
[21:40.000 -> 21:47.320] or wearing non-club gear, because they understand the commercial rules of, listen, we're sponsored by X, you need to wear that.
[21:47.320 -> 21:48.160] So, you know, there's certain things,
[21:48.160 -> 21:49.720] but they understand that, you know,
[21:49.720 -> 21:53.280] if it's going to help us win by all wearing matching
[21:53.280 -> 21:55.760] trainers or something, fine, but it probably isn't.
[21:55.760 -> 21:58.040] So it's about letting people be individual,
[21:58.040 -> 22:00.120] but what can't slip is standards when you do your work.
[22:00.120 -> 22:01.280] So when you're out on the training pitch,
[22:01.280 -> 22:02.800] it's how you work, when you're staffed,
[22:02.800 -> 22:05.360] and it's how you work. You can't be negative.
[22:05.360 -> 22:06.720] They're the non-negotiables.
[22:06.720 -> 22:08.320] You've got to give, especially nowadays,
[22:08.320 -> 22:10.480] well, you've got to give people freedom to be individual
[22:10.480 -> 22:12.320] because they are, and you have to accept that.
[22:12.320 -> 22:15.120] There's things that ICR boys do in, and staff,
[22:15.120 -> 22:16.080] which I can't get my head around.
[22:16.080 -> 22:18.080] You know, there's something now called a TikTok or something,
[22:18.080 -> 22:20.160] which is like sending videos out,
[22:20.160 -> 22:21.440] and I can't get my head around it.
[22:21.440 -> 22:23.120] I look at it and go, why would you do that?
[22:23.120 -> 22:25.320] But you have to understand that's their world. So I choose not to do it.. I look at it and go, why would you do that? But you have to understand that's their world.
[22:25.320 -> 22:27.360] So I choose not to do it.
[22:27.360 -> 22:28.760] And I look at it and go, wow,
[22:28.760 -> 22:30.960] I think you look a bit weird or whatever.
[22:30.960 -> 22:32.560] But in their world, they probably am a weirdo.
[22:32.560 -> 22:34.940] And it's about accepting them for them.
[22:34.940 -> 22:35.920] And if that makes them happy,
[22:35.920 -> 22:37.960] if that helps them relax or whatever, good luck to them.
[22:37.960 -> 22:39.360] As long as it's not disrespectful, it's different.
[22:39.360 -> 22:41.080] If you're doing one, I don't know,
[22:41.080 -> 22:42.080] slagging off the queen or something,
[22:42.080 -> 22:43.940] then yeah, okay, we have to intervene then.
[22:43.940 -> 23:05.920] But you know, most of these guys now are so well-educated on what to do with these social medias and stuff. ac mae'n dweud, dwi'n gwybod, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n gwrthod eich cyfarfod. Felly, gweithio â'r cyrfaenod a mae'n ddod yn ddiogel. Ond yna mae yna amserau eraill y mae'n gwneud i chi teimlo'n well
[23:05.920 -> 23:07.960] gyda'ch cefnogaethau ar y ffordd i gêm,
[23:07.960 -> 23:09.680] clywed i beth bynnag,
[23:09.680 -> 23:11.320] oherwydd gallai fod yn siarad cymorthol.
[23:11.320 -> 23:12.480] Nid yn ymwneud â...
[23:12.480 -> 23:14.040] gallai fod yn adroddiad o rhan o'r teulu.
[23:14.040 -> 23:14.880] Dydyn ni ddim yn gwybod.
[23:14.880 -> 23:15.920] Felly, gweithio â'r cyrfaenod,
[23:15.920 -> 23:17.040] os mae hynny'n helpu nhw i gynnig,
[23:17.040 -> 23:18.200] gadewch iddyn nhw.
[23:18.200 -> 23:19.240] Mae'r dealltwriaeth,
[23:19.240 -> 23:21.560] y gwybodaeth ddewis ynglyn â
[23:21.560 -> 23:22.880] cael cyrfaenod i bobl
[23:22.880 -> 23:24.240] a ddim yn ymwneud â ddod i mewn
[23:24.240 -> 23:25.800] a ddefnyddio rygbi'n stryd.
[23:25.800 -> 23:28.320] Gadewch i ni fynd yn ôl i'r tro pan wnaethoch chi ddod o Wrexham
[23:28.320 -> 23:29.480] a mynd i Liverpool,
[23:29.480 -> 23:32.320] oherwydd dyna sefydliad sydd,
[23:32.320 -> 23:34.120] mae'n ofyn arno fel y ffordd y mae'r Llyfrgell yn ei wneud,
[23:34.120 -> 23:36.320] maen nhw'n cael sefydliadau'n dda iawn.
[23:37.360 -> 23:41.080] Dwi'n mwynhau pethau y gwnaethoch chi'n eu cymryd ar eich bywyd
[23:41.080 -> 23:44.280] sy'n ffynnu'r ffordd y mae gennych chi'n gyflawni Norwich.
[23:44.280 -> 23:47.520] Ie, felly, a phan ddwech chi fynd i Liverpool, mae'n mwy na chlub,
[23:47.520 -> 23:52.720] mae'n rhaid i chi ddod o hyd i hynny, ac mae'n rhaid i chi weithio arnyn nhw.
[23:52.720 -> 23:55.520] Mae'n ddiddorol, ond nid yw unrhyw un wedi ymuno a dweud,
[23:55.520 -> 23:57.120] rydych chi nawr yn gweithio ar gyfer Liverpool, dyma beth rydych chi'n ei wneud.
[23:57.120 -> 24:00.240] Mae'n eithaf fel y byddwch chi'n teimlo hwn, ac yw'n gweld hi'n digwydd,
[24:00.240 -> 24:03.280] ac yw'n gweld pobl yn gweithio mewn ffordd gwahanol,
[24:03.280 -> 24:07.000] yna dywedwch chi, iawn, dyma'r hyn rydych chi'n ei wneud, dyna sut ydych chi'n gweithio yma.
[24:07.000 -> 24:10.000] Felly, ar ôl hynny, nid oedd gennych rhyliau, roedd yn fwy na'r cyfnod.
[24:10.000 -> 24:12.000] Na, roedd yn cyfnod, roedd pobl yn mynd ar gyfer cyfnodau.
[24:12.000 -> 24:15.000] Felly roeddwn i'n hapus iawn ar y pryd, oherwydd roeddwn i wedi gweithio yn y gymdeithas.
[24:15.000 -> 24:18.000] Kenny Dalgleish oedd ymgyrchwyr club a oedd yn cael swyddfa yn y gymdeithas.
[24:18.000 -> 24:21.000] Felly roedd e'n dod i mewn dwy neu ddau dydd ar y wythnos.
[24:21.000 -> 24:24.000] Ac os oes gennych chi eisiau rhywun sydd wedi byw y ffordd Llyfrgell,
[24:24.000 -> 24:25.960] dyma'r fyny hwn, yn amlwg, this is his guy as obviously a player, manager,
[24:25.960 -> 24:29.640] manager during the horrendous Hillsborough disaster.
[24:29.640 -> 24:32.720] So, this is a guy who lived it and breathed it every day
[24:32.720 -> 24:34.360] and cared so much for the club.
[24:34.360 -> 24:35.480] So you're watching how we act.
[24:35.480 -> 24:37.040] But even before that when I was at Wrexham,
[24:37.040 -> 24:40.360] we had Joey Jones who won two European cups for Liverpool.
[24:40.360 -> 24:42.440] And he would talk about Liverpool and you think,
[24:42.440 -> 24:45.000] wow, it was like some sort of magical place or whatever. But then also at Liverpool, we roeddwn i'n meddwl, wow, mae'n lle maes maes gwirioneddol.
[24:45.000 -> 24:48.000] Ond hefyd, yng Nghymru, roedd gennym ddau o bobl yno,
[24:48.000 -> 24:51.000] a'r Rudolfo Borell, sydd ar hyn o bryd yn ymgyrch cyntaf i Pep,
[24:51.000 -> 24:53.000] ym Man City,
[24:53.000 -> 24:55.000] a Pep Segura,
[24:55.000 -> 24:56.000] sy'n dyrwyddiadur technol.
[24:56.000 -> 24:58.000] Ac roeddent i'r ddau o'u gynnyrch o Barcelona.
[24:58.000 -> 24:59.000] Felly roedd yn ffeithio,
[24:59.000 -> 25:00.000] pan ddod i'r ystod,
[25:00.000 -> 25:02.000] dywedoddwch chi ddim yn gwybod unrhyw beth am ffotbol.
[25:02.000 -> 25:03.000] Yn ystod y dynion hyn,
[25:03.000 -> 25:06.000] dywedoddwch chi, dwi ddim yn gwybod unrhyw beth. Mae'n ffeithio i fynd yn ôl i'r ladd, ac i ddweud, rhaid i mi ddod yno, pan rydych chi'n sylwi eich bod chi ddim yn gwybod unrhyw beth am ffotbol, yw pan ydych chi gyda'r dynion hwn, rydych chi'n sylwi, dwi ddim yn gwybod unrhyw beth.
[25:06.000 -> 25:08.000] Mae'n gwneud i mi fynd i'r ffwrdd i'r ffwrdd i'r ffwrdd
[25:08.000 -> 25:10.000] i ddod i'r ffwrdd i'r ffwrdd i'r ffwrdd i'r ffwrdd
[25:10.000 -> 25:12.000] i ddod i'r ffwrdd i'r ffwrdd
[25:12.000 -> 25:14.000] i'r ffwrdd
[25:14.000 -> 25:16.000] i'r ffwrdd
[25:16.000 -> 25:18.000] i'r ffwrdd
[25:18.000 -> 25:20.000] i'r ffwrdd
[25:20.000 -> 25:22.000] i'r ffwrdd
[25:22.000 -> 25:24.000] i'r ffwrdd
[25:24.000 -> 25:27.480] i'r ffwrdd i'r ffwrdd Ond eu cyfraithau, rwy'n credu, oedd yn cael eu cymryd yn y clwb hwnnw dros y 50 mlynedd, ac yn naturiol, roedd pawb yn deimlo ei fod yn cymryd y cyfrin.
[25:27.480 -> 25:48.000] Doedd dim byth yn cael ei gysylltu â'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, o'r cyfrin, oedd Jamie Carragher, a sut maen nhw'n gweithio fel chwaraewyr sylfaenol a sut maen nhw'n gweithio gyda'r staff, os oes yn y canteen, y gynhyrchwyr neu'r rheolwr,
[25:48.000 -> 25:52.000] a'u bod yn dweud, dyna sut mae'r blwyd yn ymdrech, dyna beth oedd ei gynllun yn Llyfrgell.
[25:52.000 -> 25:55.000] Os oes gennym ni un o'r chwaraewyr ifanc, ac roeddwn i'n gael iddo ddweud wrth Stephen Gerrard
[25:55.000 -> 25:59.000] fod yn siarad am y ffordd Llyfrgellol, ond roedd yn siarad amdano yn ei ffordd,
[25:59.000 -> 26:01.000] nid yn unrhyw ffordd Powerpoint neu'r corfforaeth,
[26:01.000 -> 26:04.000] dyma'n sefydliadau sefydliadol neu beth bynnag fel hyn,
[26:04.000 -> 26:06.280] dyma'n fwy na unrhyw un o'r bobl, dyma'r Llypo, o'r sefydliadau neu beth bynnag. Roeddwn i'n dweud, na, dyma'n fwy na un unig.
[26:06.280 -> 26:07.480] Dyma Llyfrgwr Ffotbol Llyfrgell.
[26:07.480 -> 26:08.800] Rydych chi'n cymryd miliwn o bobl.
[26:08.800 -> 26:10.000] Rydych chi'n cymryd y cop.
[26:10.000 -> 26:10.800] Rydych chi'n cymryd hyn.
[26:10.800 -> 26:13.440] Rhaid i chi edrych ar y llifogledd o Shankly
[26:13.440 -> 26:14.480] a'r holl fathau hyn.
[26:14.480 -> 26:17.280] Roeddwn i'n dweud, roedd hyn yn rhan o'r hyn rydyn ni'n siarad am.
[26:17.280 -> 26:18.400] Ac rwy'n credu hefyd,
[26:18.400 -> 26:19.680] roeddent yn defnyddio'r ffigurau yn y blynyddoedd
[26:19.680 -> 26:20.480] pan roeddwn i yno,
[26:20.480 -> 26:21.920] oherwydd ym Melfyrd,
[26:21.920 -> 26:22.720] Melwood
[26:22.720 -> 27:06.720] neu Cerbyn ym Mhagin. Roeddent yn eich ymwybodol. Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, y Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru, the Cymru yn hytrach na'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath o'r fath I'm doing this job because my aim in the end is to win the Premier League. Would you share that with people or would you keep that to yourself at that point?
[27:06.720 -> 27:07.880] Yeah, no, I'd share it.
[27:07.880 -> 27:09.200] Yeah, I'm not ashamed of it.
[27:09.200 -> 27:12.960] It's, you know, the other big dream I've got is
[27:12.960 -> 27:14.120] I want to climb Mount Everest.
[27:14.120 -> 27:16.040] I want to raise a million pounds whilst doing that.
[27:16.040 -> 27:19.280] But no, no, because I believe in sharing,
[27:19.280 -> 27:21.000] in sharing what you think and your beliefs,
[27:21.000 -> 27:23.640] because if you can share it with people
[27:23.640 -> 27:25.700] and talk to people,
[27:25.700 -> 27:27.880] some people might have some good ideas towards it.
[27:27.880 -> 27:28.720] You know, and some of them might go,
[27:28.720 -> 27:29.680] have you thought about doing this?
[27:29.680 -> 27:30.560] This might help or whatever.
[27:30.560 -> 27:32.560] Whereas if you keep everything tight inside,
[27:32.560 -> 27:33.400] don't get me wrong,
[27:33.400 -> 27:34.960] I pick and choose who I share things with as well.
[27:34.960 -> 27:37.760] You know, I wouldn't, I've got no interest
[27:37.760 -> 27:39.640] in starting an Instagram account and telling the world
[27:39.640 -> 27:42.680] and open up Bob, Bob the Builder says, you know,
[27:42.680 -> 27:44.560] you prick, you never get, hope you fall down it or whatever.
[27:44.560 -> 27:47.760] It's like no interest, but people who are trusted and,
[27:47.760 -> 27:49.880] you know, I believe can maybe share some insight.
[27:49.880 -> 27:50.720] Yeah, absolutely.
[27:50.720 -> 27:51.540] Tell them, you know,
[27:51.540 -> 27:53.160] cause they might have some answers to help that.
[27:53.160 -> 27:55.000] And what was the reaction when you go into Liverpool
[27:55.000 -> 27:56.840] at a relatively young age and say, well,
[27:56.840 -> 27:58.880] my plan is to win the Premier League in the end.
[27:58.880 -> 28:00.200] Did people embrace that?
[28:00.200 -> 28:01.200] I think they see it as normal.
[28:01.200 -> 28:03.120] When you work at that level, it's like the people are,
[28:03.120 -> 28:04.080] oh yeah, good.
[28:04.080 -> 28:07.640] Yeah, we don't want you if you don't it's the places you used to winning and being the best
[28:07.760 -> 28:09.640] So they want people around who?
[28:09.640 -> 28:14.280] Want to be the best as well not you know going in saying God when I used to win the Carabao Cup is a bit like
[28:14.480 -> 28:15.860] What in the wrong place mate?
[28:15.860 -> 28:20.880] So then you go to QPR you go to Wolves you move around a bit you end up at Huddersfield and then you end up as
[28:20.960 -> 28:24.040] a director of football as the man running a football club
[28:24.480 -> 28:26.460] And then Huddersfield are having a great season,
[28:26.460 -> 28:28.560] looks like they're gonna make it to the promised land
[28:28.560 -> 28:29.480] of the Premier League,
[28:29.480 -> 28:31.920] which you're largely responsible for at that time.
[28:31.920 -> 28:35.560] And you then decide to leave and come to Norwich.
[28:35.560 -> 28:37.840] Where does that decision come from?
[28:37.840 -> 28:39.860] And how important is it in your line of work
[28:39.860 -> 28:42.860] to be able to make those brave decisions
[28:42.860 -> 28:44.560] at a time when people from the outside will look at it
[28:44.560 -> 28:47.760] and think, not now, why would you do that now?
[28:47.760 -> 28:52.760] Yeah I think people didn't get it at the end, at the time, because all they could
[28:52.760 -> 28:58.120] see was, yeah we're going to the Premier League. I'm like, well yeah but I'm 34 years old.
[28:58.120 -> 29:02.840] I didn't see it as a once-in-a-lifetime moment. I, you know, I truly believe that
[29:02.840 -> 29:26.080] well, it's not the hardest thing in the world to get promoted, so we can do it, I Iawn, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, dwi'n credu, I'm not going to slag anyone off here, but I didn't truly believe that they truly believed
[29:27.280 -> 29:30.380] that they could stay in there and grow.
[29:30.380 -> 29:31.620] And that weren't for me.
[29:31.620 -> 29:33.840] I won't go in there to survive in the Premier League
[29:33.840 -> 29:36.960] and win a few favours and a few people slap you on the back
[29:36.960 -> 29:39.160] and whatever, it's like, no, no,
[29:39.160 -> 29:41.260] are we going to grow this into a proper Premier League club?
[29:41.260 -> 29:43.920] Because we can, I'm not saying let's go
[29:43.920 -> 29:44.920] and win the Champions League, I just feel,
[29:44.920 -> 29:46.320] because it's not going to happen, because we can, I'm not saying let's go and win the Champions League, I just feel, because it's not going to happen,
[29:46.320 -> 29:47.260] but we can stay there.
[29:47.260 -> 29:50.660] And are we going to invest in infrastructure?
[29:50.660 -> 29:53.100] Are we going to invest in more people?
[29:53.100 -> 29:54.020] And I weren't convinced.
[29:54.020 -> 29:56.500] And it was little things like in the canteen,
[29:56.500 -> 29:58.420] the restaurant, the food was crap.
[29:58.420 -> 30:01.140] And I kept going, we've got to get better chefs.
[30:01.140 -> 30:01.980] We've got to get better food.
[30:01.980 -> 30:02.920] We've got to get better food.
[30:02.920 -> 30:04.900] And it was met with, well, we feed them.
[30:04.900 -> 30:05.760] What's the problem? And that was killing me. Because it's like, that's not, A'r rhai oedd yn dweud, rhaid i ni gael gwell fwydau, rhaid i ni gael gwell bwyd. Ac roedd yn cael ei gael gyda'r rhai sy'n ei ddynnu, ac pa'r broblem?
[30:05.760 -> 30:10.160] Ac roedd hynny'n fy nabod, oherwydd dyna ddim y lefel rydw i eisiau bod.
[30:10.160 -> 30:11.680] Dyna'n ddim.
[30:11.680 -> 30:14.160] Gallaf ymdrechu i chi.
[30:14.160 -> 30:17.440] Pa mor oedd hynny'n eich gofyn i chi o'ch wledydd?
[30:17.440 -> 30:20.080] Mae llawer o hynny.
[30:20.080 -> 30:22.160] Rydw i wedi mynd i Huddersfield, ac byddwn i'n ddiolchgar
[30:22.160 -> 30:24.560] oherwydd roeddent i mi gael cyfle i fod yn rôl arbennig
[30:24.560 -> 30:25.280] a chwilio pethau. Roeddwn i bob amser yn gweld yn ddod o'r clwb ddangos y gallwn ni ddod i mewn i ffwrdd gweithredol. Gallwn ni newid y ffordd rydyn ni'n mynd i Huddersfield, ac rydw i'n bob amser yn ddiolchgar oherwydd roeddent i'n rhoi cyfle i fod yn rôl arbennig a chroesawu pethau.
[30:25.280 -> 30:30.480] Roeddwn i'n gweld yn gyffredinol y byddwn i'n gallu gynnwys ymgyrch gwahanol, gallwn newid y ffordd rydyn ni'n chwarae, gallwn gynnwys rhai chwaraewyr gwahanol.
[30:30.480 -> 30:35.440] Ac os oedd yn mynd yn fwy, roedd wedi cymryd ym mhobl bwys o'r cymryd ym mhob blynyddoedd, roeddwn i'n meddwl, na allwn ni gael pwysau.
[30:35.440 -> 30:40.720] Yn fy nghyfnod, roeddwn i'n meddwl, y unig ffordd yw i fynd i fyny, ac os oedden ni'n gwella o le, roeddwn i'n meddwl bod yna gwella.
[30:40.720 -> 30:46.280] Ond roeddwn i'n meddwl y gallwn ni gael rhywbeth yn bwysig. and improvement, but I thought we could achieve something special. But at that point, definitely it was like,
[30:46.280 -> 30:49.120] I hate unambition, I hate the,
[30:50.160 -> 30:51.080] oh no, we shouldn't do that,
[30:51.080 -> 30:52.320] because you know, what's the point,
[30:52.320 -> 30:55.640] or it only gives us a 1% gain or whatever,
[30:55.640 -> 30:56.800] or we're already feeding them,
[30:56.800 -> 30:59.080] or they're lucky with what they've got or whatever.
[30:59.080 -> 31:00.480] So yeah, I'd never thought of it,
[31:00.480 -> 31:01.720] but you're probably right.
[31:01.720 -> 31:04.040] It probably did bring me back to conversations
[31:04.040 -> 31:08.000] as a little boy where people would almost put it down
[31:08.000 -> 31:10.200] and not be ambitious enough and happy with,
[31:10.200 -> 31:11.720] happy with being shit.
[31:11.720 -> 31:12.560] I used to say to him,
[31:12.560 -> 31:14.080] you're happy of being bang average.
[31:14.080 -> 31:15.120] And that annoys me.
[31:15.120 -> 31:18.040] Running a club, this club should be here
[31:18.040 -> 31:19.880] long after we're dead.
[31:19.880 -> 31:21.960] And our job is to make it better along the way
[31:21.960 -> 31:24.080] for the next generations, for the next people.
[31:24.080 -> 31:26.200] We're not playing a short-term game here.
[31:26.200 -> 31:28.840] If we were, when Norwich got to the Premier League,
[31:28.840 -> 31:29.800] we would just spent a load of dough
[31:29.800 -> 31:30.880] to try and stay there for a year,
[31:30.880 -> 31:32.200] get a few slaps on the back, everyone go,
[31:32.200 -> 31:34.160] oh, you're brilliant, wow, it's amazing you stay up,
[31:34.160 -> 31:35.000] and then it goes wrong
[31:35.000 -> 31:36.160] and then you've got nothing to show for it
[31:36.160 -> 31:38.480] and then you get sacked and off you go,
[31:38.480 -> 31:40.280] whereas it's a bit like, nah, I'm not having that.
[31:40.280 -> 31:43.560] And so it had us feel, when the opportunity came up here,
[31:43.560 -> 31:45.560] and it helped because my wife had previously worked here.
[31:45.560 -> 31:47.520] So she was like, you need to speak to these people
[31:47.520 -> 31:50.620] as in the owners, because I think you'll just like it.
[31:50.620 -> 31:51.760] And when I spoke to them,
[31:51.760 -> 31:54.520] they convinced me, we'll let you do what you want.
[31:54.520 -> 31:55.800] We haven't got money to support it,
[31:55.800 -> 31:58.240] but you can do what you want.
[31:58.240 -> 32:02.760] And that excited me greatly, because I love building stuff.
[32:02.760 -> 32:04.800] I love building buildings.
[32:04.800 -> 32:06.520] I love building culture, but I building buildings, I love building culture,
[32:06.520 -> 32:08.280] but I love it doing it without interference
[32:08.280 -> 32:09.120] from people who don't know.
[32:09.120 -> 32:10.880] Because what happens in football a lot,
[32:10.880 -> 32:12.640] probably in lots of sports, but in football a lot,
[32:12.640 -> 32:15.160] people interfere who haven't got a clue.
[32:15.160 -> 32:17.160] And when someone gets a bit of success
[32:17.160 -> 32:18.800] as an owner or a chairman,
[32:18.800 -> 32:20.480] they start to think they do know.
[32:20.480 -> 32:21.800] And they start to go,
[32:21.800 -> 32:23.240] oh, I think we should do this.
[32:23.240 -> 32:29.600] Whereas here, Delia and Michael really convinced me or I believed should I say that these guys
[32:29.600 -> 32:33.680] will let us do whatever we want and that was exciting.
[32:33.680 -> 32:37.840] Before this interview I spoke to a few of the players that were here when you arrived and said look
[32:37.840 -> 32:41.880] what would you like to know from Stuart and two of the three came back and said
[32:41.880 -> 32:47.520] when he first arrived he just said to us all, ignore the noise, which helped us massively.
[32:47.520 -> 32:48.360] What did that mean?
[32:48.360 -> 32:50.000] And why was it so important?
[32:50.000 -> 32:51.760] When you believe in something,
[32:51.760 -> 32:52.920] when you believe in a way,
[32:52.920 -> 32:55.360] when you've worked years to develop that way,
[32:56.640 -> 32:59.780] you have to stick with it and you've got to see it through.
[32:59.780 -> 33:02.380] Yes, be open-minded to adapt it, absolutely.
[33:04.920 -> 33:07.240] But I think we now live in a world,
[33:07.240 -> 33:09.400] you know, I'm sure you'll get it with this podcast
[33:09.400 -> 33:13.400] where you'll have feedback after every episode,
[33:13.400 -> 33:14.660] good, bad, and different.
[33:15.560 -> 33:16.640] And I think you've got two choices.
[33:16.640 -> 33:18.240] You can choose to look at that
[33:18.240 -> 33:20.680] from someone who hasn't got a clue
[33:20.680 -> 33:22.560] and go, oh God, someone who hasn't got the clue
[33:22.560 -> 33:24.760] is now in my head muddling me a little bit.
[33:24.760 -> 33:28.040] So actually maybe we should change doing what we've done.
[33:28.040 -> 33:29.240] Even though it's successful,
[33:29.240 -> 33:31.740] we should change it because, you know, again, Bob,
[33:31.740 -> 33:33.040] Bob the builder hasn't got a clue
[33:33.040 -> 33:34.720] has slagged it off or something like that.
[33:34.720 -> 33:36.120] Or we can choose to ignore that.
[33:36.120 -> 33:37.840] And I'm a big believer in is if you let the noise
[33:37.840 -> 33:39.560] get in the way, that's when you start getting muddled.
[33:39.560 -> 33:41.540] If you believe in what you're doing, that's the key.
[33:41.540 -> 33:43.280] You know, I believe you've got to protect your staff,
[33:43.280 -> 33:45.720] you know, players, staff from that noise.
[33:45.720 -> 33:47.680] You know, there was an incident
[33:47.680 -> 33:49.200] in the promotion season, actually.
[33:49.200 -> 33:50.920] I'm a big believer in you play football a certain way.
[33:50.920 -> 33:52.360] It's an entertainment industry
[33:52.360 -> 33:53.600] and I believe it should be played a certain way.
[33:53.600 -> 33:54.600] I'm not saying I'm right or wrong,
[33:54.600 -> 33:56.400] but it's my deep believings.
[33:56.400 -> 33:58.480] And if an owner ever said, come in and said,
[33:58.480 -> 34:00.800] listen, you've got to play 442 and absolutely smash it,
[34:00.800 -> 34:02.600] I'd walk out the door and go, I can't,
[34:02.600 -> 34:03.480] I can't be part of that.
[34:03.480 -> 34:06.000] But we had a game, I think it's Swansea at home in the promotion season.
[34:06.000 -> 34:07.000] And we're top of the league, by the way.
[34:07.000 -> 34:10.000] And they had Dan James playing up front for him.
[34:10.000 -> 34:11.000] He plays for Man United now.
[34:11.000 -> 34:12.000] And he's obviously rapid.
[34:12.000 -> 34:14.000] And he was watching me, he's like unbelievably quick.
[34:14.000 -> 34:16.000] And he's closed Tim Krool down a couple of times.
[34:16.000 -> 34:18.000] And we want to play out for the back.
[34:18.000 -> 34:19.000] That's what, as a club, we want to do.
[34:19.000 -> 34:21.000] That's what the coach works on every day.
[34:21.000 -> 34:24.000] One of the big reasons we signed Tim, he's played a couple out.
[34:24.000 -> 34:26.520] He's got a bit close to the lad almost nicking it.
[34:26.520 -> 34:28.120] Anyway, in the second half,
[34:28.120 -> 34:29.840] ball's gone back to him and he's just smashed one.
[34:29.840 -> 34:31.600] So I'm sat in the stand with my heads going,
[34:31.600 -> 34:32.560] what the fuck are you doing that for?
[34:32.560 -> 34:33.760] Like that's doing my head in.
[34:33.760 -> 34:35.960] But there was ironic cheers from the,
[34:35.960 -> 34:37.280] you know, 2000 fans behind.
[34:37.280 -> 34:39.720] And I was doing some press within a couple of days,
[34:39.720 -> 34:41.400] I don't know why, I was doing some press.
[34:41.400 -> 34:43.840] And it was really, absolutely annoyed me
[34:43.840 -> 34:44.680] that it's a bit like,
[34:44.680 -> 34:45.240] have some respect
[34:45.480 -> 34:48.960] For the players who were top of the league who was trying to play a certain way
[34:48.960 -> 34:52.000] We've got three of the back four under 20 years old. So they need help here
[34:52.000 -> 34:57.180] We've got a fella in goal who hasn't played for two years because of injuries give them a bit of support not ironic cheers
[34:57.180 -> 35:00.520] You know and I came out and I said something like to be honest at that moment
[35:00.520 -> 35:02.520] I want to go and punch 2,000 people in the face
[35:02.800 -> 35:07.460] Because Tim needed protection at that point in terms of this listen you don't need me to protect him, but
[35:07.460 -> 35:12.300] what he needed it was reassurance of, no fuck them, ignore them, they don't know.
[35:12.300 -> 35:15.900] Arthur would probably have two beers and don't even know where the ball is, so
[35:15.900 -> 35:21.360] ignore them, you've got to just ignore that and do this is how we do it, this is
[35:21.360 -> 35:24.060] how we play, this is what we do, this is what we're building our success on, not
[35:24.060 -> 35:25.360] because they've got nervy
[35:25.360 -> 35:27.080] because there's some rapid center forward
[35:27.080 -> 35:27.920] who keeps closing you down.
[35:27.920 -> 35:29.200] It's like, no, ignore that.
[35:29.200 -> 35:30.720] But no, I think it's hugely important.
[35:30.720 -> 35:32.160] Cause I think if you get caught up with it,
[35:32.160 -> 35:33.000] it can eat you alive.
[35:33.000 -> 35:34.720] And I'll be honest, I had it here my first year.
[35:34.720 -> 35:35.680] It was difficult here.
[35:35.680 -> 35:36.520] I'd left Huddersfield.
[35:36.520 -> 35:37.560] They'd been promoted.
[35:37.560 -> 35:38.520] They were staying in the prem.
[35:38.520 -> 35:39.920] We finished 14th.
[35:39.920 -> 35:40.960] But I was getting hammered a bit,
[35:40.960 -> 35:42.080] you know, by some of the people here,
[35:42.080 -> 35:43.200] some of the fans and whatever.
[35:43.200 -> 35:45.560] And, you know, when I started looking at it,
[35:45.560 -> 35:46.400] I made a fatal error.
[35:46.400 -> 35:48.640] I started looking at it and-
[35:48.640 -> 35:51.160] Why? What changed there?
[35:51.160 -> 35:53.040] I just had a moment of weakness.
[35:53.040 -> 35:55.840] I had a moment of probably feeling lonely,
[35:55.840 -> 35:57.800] definitely feeling lonely, actually.
[35:57.800 -> 36:00.800] Everything had been so good, you know, at Huddersfield.
[36:00.800 -> 36:02.640] The hoo-ha have come in here.
[36:02.640 -> 36:04.920] It was a bit like, this isn't going great,
[36:04.920 -> 36:06.120] first year, actually. Everyone going great first year actually.
[36:06.120 -> 36:07.040] Everyone's questioning what we do.
[36:07.040 -> 36:08.760] And you even see it from people,
[36:08.760 -> 36:11.080] you work with people, directors, you know,
[36:11.080 -> 36:12.400] bit quieter with you, a bit whatever,
[36:12.400 -> 36:15.220] and you think, oh, you know, this is a lonely place.
[36:15.220 -> 36:16.920] And then, you know, you go into a place
[36:16.920 -> 36:17.840] where you do start looking,
[36:17.840 -> 36:19.240] and you realize what people are saying about you,
[36:19.240 -> 36:21.000] and wrongly, you start to look at it more.
[36:21.000 -> 36:23.160] And I remember having a conversation here with Neil Adams,
[36:23.160 -> 36:25.600] who'd been manager here, played here,
[36:25.600 -> 36:27.840] and is a top, top bloke.
[36:27.840 -> 36:30.600] And I said to him, fuck, I'm struggling a bit, mate.
[36:30.600 -> 36:32.280] It's going to do yourself a favor.
[36:32.280 -> 36:33.640] Fucking listen to what you say to other people.
[36:33.640 -> 36:34.480] Don't look at it.
[36:34.480 -> 36:37.680] And from that day, I've never looked at it.
[36:37.680 -> 36:39.120] From that day, I've never gone back and looked at it.
[36:39.120 -> 36:40.680] And all this time later,
[36:40.680 -> 36:42.960] I bet you can still remember what some of the comments were
[36:42.960 -> 36:50.840] because they stay with you, don't they? They do. do they do and it hurts because when you're doing your best and you're trying so hard and you know
[36:50.840 -> 36:54.460] What you've come into and it's like this is this isn't easy to turn around it people in football thing
[36:54.460 -> 36:57.280] Just flick a switch and win. Well, yeah in the championship
[36:57.280 -> 36:59.680] It's 24 teams only three of them can have a successful season
[36:59.840 -> 37:02.960] Three of them are gonna have a horrendous season and the others are gonna be somewhere in between
[37:03.400 -> 37:05.280] Same in a Premier League only one team can win it.
[37:05.920 -> 37:08.480] That's an unfortunate fact, it's like, probably six want to win it,
[37:08.480 -> 37:10.080] it's like only one wins, so guess what?
[37:10.080 -> 37:12.880] You're going to be disappointed, and if it was easy as flicking a switch,
[37:12.880 -> 37:13.920] everyone would do it, right?
[37:13.920 -> 37:16.480] And it's tough, but you know, but then times also make you stronger,
[37:16.480 -> 37:18.160] and that's why when we got relegated, for example,
[37:18.880 -> 37:22.160] I didn't need to look, because I knew exactly what people would be saying.
[37:22.160 -> 37:24.000] Like, I don't need to look now when things are going right,
[37:24.000 -> 37:26.680] because I know exactly what the same people would be saying.
[37:26.680 -> 37:28.480] I actually like looking at it, you know.
[37:28.480 -> 37:29.320] Do you?
[37:29.320 -> 37:30.720] I like the, I just find the energy,
[37:30.720 -> 37:32.200] I just find it an energy source,
[37:32.200 -> 37:34.000] the criticism, an energy source, yeah.
[37:34.000 -> 37:34.840] I disagree.
[37:34.840 -> 37:36.040] I find it a waste of time.
[37:36.040 -> 37:38.160] What I find as an energy source is,
[37:39.000 -> 37:40.200] and it sounds terrible this,
[37:40.200 -> 37:43.000] but when we were getting relegated,
[37:43.000 -> 37:45.320] so you got to take this as a, as a minute, right?
[37:47.160 -> 37:48.960] We had this sort of lockdown period.
[37:48.960 -> 37:51.280] So I spent loads of time up on the coast of Norfolk,
[37:51.280 -> 37:54.440] which beautiful place, walking alone, alone, alone,
[37:54.440 -> 37:55.720] walking, walking, trying to work it out,
[37:55.720 -> 37:56.600] trying to work it out.
[37:56.600 -> 37:58.960] Spoke to a lot of people who've been through relegation.
[37:58.960 -> 37:59.800] Right, what do we need to do?
[37:59.800 -> 38:00.640] What do we need to do?
[38:00.640 -> 38:02.040] Cause I, we were six points off safety at that point.
[38:02.040 -> 38:04.120] We had 10 to go, but I knew we were getting relegated.
[38:04.120 -> 38:06.880] We weren't good enough. So I weren't one of these dreamy ones
[38:06.880 -> 38:10.280] of if only we could win the next game back, we'll be all right. We aren't good enough.
[38:10.280 -> 38:13.960] I wouldn't say that out loud, obviously, of course not, but I knew. And then as we went
[38:13.960 -> 38:18.360] through it, I was going through it in my head. I got from a point of, I sort of grieved a
[38:18.360 -> 38:24.520] bit, got my head around it, and then was like, I then got semi excited about the thought
[38:24.520 -> 38:25.840] of getting relegated
[38:25.840 -> 38:27.840] because I thought, you know what?
[38:27.840 -> 38:29.200] This is gonna be great.
[38:29.200 -> 38:31.440] I'm gonna learn so much about myself.
[38:31.440 -> 38:33.240] I'm gonna learn so much about others.
[38:33.240 -> 38:35.120] And Damian, you use a saying about boxing,
[38:35.120 -> 38:37.160] which I think is the same for relegation.
[38:38.200 -> 38:39.760] Relegation or you say about boxing
[38:39.760 -> 38:42.120] doesn't develop your character, it unveils it.
[38:42.120 -> 38:44.840] And I got a little bit excited of,
[38:44.840 -> 38:47.400] fuck me, I'm gonna find out about some people here.
[38:47.400 -> 38:49.560] And some of them people really surprised me
[38:49.560 -> 38:50.440] in a positive way.
[38:50.440 -> 38:52.600] People that I probably thought, you know what,
[38:52.600 -> 38:54.440] I'm not sure they're going to really with this,
[38:54.440 -> 38:57.480] turn like that and were like proper behind you.
[38:57.480 -> 38:58.760] But then other people weren't.
[38:58.760 -> 39:00.680] And, you know, and I found it fascinating
[39:00.680 -> 39:02.720] watching people's behaviors through that
[39:02.720 -> 39:04.640] as a learning point, because I got over it.
[39:04.640 -> 39:05.840] I imagine a bit like a deaf really.
[39:05.840 -> 39:07.200] It's a bit like, you know, someone who knows dying,
[39:07.200 -> 39:09.400] is like, right, I've dealt with the dying.
[39:09.400 -> 39:12.320] So actually I'm going to enjoy the last bit of time
[39:12.320 -> 39:13.160] with them.
[39:13.160 -> 39:14.480] I was a bit like that through the relegation period.
[39:14.480 -> 39:15.300] Now, did I enjoy it?
[39:15.300 -> 39:17.200] Not one bit, of course not, in terms of the games and stuff.
[39:17.200 -> 39:19.480] But what I did enjoy was all the things I was learning
[39:19.480 -> 39:21.920] and, you know, seeing about different peoples.
[39:21.920 -> 39:23.720] And that's at that times it becomes lonely.
[39:23.720 -> 39:25.720] We got promoted a year before,
[39:25.720 -> 39:28.800] I probably got 400 messages
[39:28.800 -> 39:31.280] within 20 minutes of the final whistle.
[39:31.280 -> 39:32.680] We got relegated, I had 10.
[39:32.680 -> 39:35.120] I remember speaking to a manager who'd been through it,
[39:35.120 -> 39:38.360] who's now become a world-class manager.
[39:38.360 -> 39:41.060] And he said, the best thing the club did for me
[39:41.060 -> 39:42.480] is it didn't sack me.
[39:42.480 -> 39:43.880] They let me go through relegation.
[39:43.880 -> 39:46.280] And he goes, I learned more in that time
[39:46.280 -> 39:48.080] than I did in any other part of my career.
[39:48.080 -> 39:50.360] And I'd agree with that.
[39:50.360 -> 39:51.640] That's become the fuel for me.
[39:51.640 -> 39:52.600] So that's become the fuel to me.
[39:52.600 -> 39:55.480] So what we did, we then got the staff together here
[39:55.480 -> 39:56.320] after relegation.
[39:56.320 -> 39:58.400] And I did some media out and about where I was said about,
[39:58.400 -> 39:59.240] I took full responsibility
[39:59.240 -> 40:00.560] because I wanted to shut the noise out.
[40:00.560 -> 40:04.040] I didn't want it to be picked apart
[40:04.040 -> 40:09.720] for the next six, seven weeks. So we got- Was that got that when you said publicly you said I sent Daniel for the manager
[40:09.720 -> 40:12.680] I sent him to war without a gun or something. Yeah, that was the phrase you use was yeah
[40:12.680 -> 40:16.280] So so my idea was was I want to take full responsibility for this
[40:16.400 -> 40:22.160] Cuz everyone wants to scapegoat when you get relegated when you lose when you hello your best mates leaves his missus or whatever
[40:22.160 -> 40:25.840] It's like everyone's a scapegoat. Everyone's a reason. Even if we weren't one, they want a reason.
[40:25.840 -> 40:27.000] You know, we've got to blame someone.
[40:27.000 -> 40:29.600] So I was like, right, I'll take the blame here.
[40:29.600 -> 40:30.440] Bang, public.
[40:30.440 -> 40:31.260] And I did it privately as well.
[40:31.260 -> 40:32.400] I did it in a board meeting as well.
[40:32.400 -> 40:34.320] Cause I was like, cut the bullshit.
[40:34.320 -> 40:35.840] I'd already got to the reasons why
[40:35.840 -> 40:36.680] and I knew what we had to do
[40:36.680 -> 40:39.520] to make sure we were stronger next season.
[40:39.520 -> 40:40.520] So I did that.
[40:40.520 -> 40:42.920] And then I got a meeting here with all the staff.
[40:42.920 -> 40:45.160] And at this point then,
[40:45.160 -> 40:47.280] cause I'd already got over it,
[40:47.280 -> 40:49.760] dealt with it, found out it was on the journey with us.
[40:49.760 -> 40:51.760] I then got into the mode of,
[40:51.760 -> 40:53.400] we're fucking proving people wrong.
[40:53.400 -> 40:55.480] We're not having that feeling again, by the way,
[40:55.480 -> 40:59.280] because that hurt and was embarrassing.
[40:59.280 -> 41:00.160] And I remember using some,
[41:00.160 -> 41:01.680] I think it's Sir Alex Ferguson used it
[41:01.680 -> 41:03.820] about not letting any sharks on your island.
[41:03.820 -> 41:05.320] And I got a staff in and I said,
[41:05.320 -> 41:07.880] all them fucking sharks, they used to be our mates,
[41:07.880 -> 41:10.040] and they were surfing around us, they do not come in here.
[41:10.040 -> 41:12.400] And we've used it to create a surge mentality
[41:12.400 -> 41:15.200] at the training ground around people who have not felt that.
[41:15.200 -> 41:17.360] We now know who's with us, and we found out,
[41:17.360 -> 41:20.680] and we used the old FIFO effect that you talk about Damien,
[41:20.680 -> 41:23.520] and certain people, bang, you're gone, you ain't part of it, get out.
[41:23.520 -> 41:25.880] You're not going to be around here anymore. You can't help us.
[41:25.880 -> 41:27.920] And it was really ruthless,
[41:27.920 -> 41:29.960] but then it was about backing up and, you know,
[41:29.960 -> 41:30.800] cause words are easy, right?
[41:30.800 -> 41:32.440] And it's a bit like relegation, it does make it.
[41:32.440 -> 41:34.680] When you see a player or anyone crying on the pitch,
[41:34.680 -> 41:37.240] oh, we'll be back and whatever, fuck off.
[41:37.240 -> 41:40.000] Get on with it, do your job and fix it, you know,
[41:40.000 -> 41:42.280] and make sure you never sat on that pitch crying again.
[41:42.280 -> 41:43.520] It was about creating that,
[41:43.520 -> 41:46.720] but taking that noise away of everyone thinking,
[41:46.720 -> 41:48.120] oh, is Samantha going to lose his job?
[41:48.120 -> 41:48.960] Is Stuart losing his job?
[41:48.960 -> 41:51.120] Whatever, it's like, now I'm going to take all of that
[41:51.120 -> 41:52.600] because to be honest,
[41:52.600 -> 41:56.040] if everyone then slags me off for a month, I won't see it.
[41:56.040 -> 41:56.880] So I don't know.
[41:56.880 -> 41:58.320] So it's irrelevant, you know?
[41:58.320 -> 42:00.280] So if they're all going after I've said my press,
[42:00.280 -> 42:03.200] if they're all tweeting or writing whatever emails
[42:03.200 -> 42:04.800] into the paper or whatever, going,
[42:04.800 -> 42:08.580] is it not a bad idea to get sacked or whatever, it don't hurt me because I can't
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[45:26.000 -> 45:32.000] Think one of your superpowers and I know that might embarrass you in terms of using that but the ability to get Rwy'n credu un o'ch cymhwyseddau, ac rwy'n gwybod ei fod yn anodd i chi o ran defnyddio hynny, ond y gallu i gael y gwneud penderfyniadau i gael y pwysoedd rydych chi wedi'u cael.
[45:32.000 -> 45:37.000] Felly rwy'n hoffi'r ffordd rydych chi wedi'i ddysgrifio, y mentaliaeth o gael pawb rydych chi'n gynrychioli ar gyfer,
[45:37.000 -> 45:39.000] wedi'u gathol i gyd.
[45:39.000 -> 45:48.920] Ond rwy'n credu mai mae'n nes i gael y bobl sy'n gallu pmryd y triggyr i gael y pwynt a gwneud hynny.
[45:48.920 -> 45:55.320] Felly rwy'n mwynhau os oes gennych chi'n dweud i ni sut i gael iddyn nhw hefyd yn eich gwneud y brwyd.
[45:55.320 -> 46:01.280] Iawn, ac mae'n anodd i'w gwneud, i gyd. Oherwydd maen nhw'n faniaid, yn wir.
[46:01.280 -> 46:06.200] Dyna sut maen nhw'n ei wneud, ac mae'n dda. F that's great. So it hurts them a lot when we lose.
[46:06.200 -> 46:08.660] They also have people around them who are fans.
[46:08.660 -> 46:11.240] So they'll be chipping away.
[46:11.240 -> 46:15.300] For me, I've always looked at it as it's about education.
[46:15.300 -> 46:16.800] It's about transparency.
[46:16.800 -> 46:18.520] So whether it was at Huddersfield,
[46:18.520 -> 46:21.200] whether it's here at Norwich,
[46:21.200 -> 46:23.360] it's about complete honesty with the owners.
[46:23.360 -> 46:26.480] So at the end of each year, I do a report,
[46:26.480 -> 46:29.720] which only three people see, the two owners,
[46:29.720 -> 46:31.720] and my wife, because she has to check the spelling.
[46:31.720 -> 46:34.680] In that, I give everything.
[46:34.680 -> 46:38.680] And I talk about the mistakes, I talk about what went wrong,
[46:38.680 -> 46:40.000] why something went right,
[46:40.000 -> 46:41.720] because saying I was Nick from you
[46:41.720 -> 46:43.480] is you say success leads clues.
[46:43.480 -> 46:46.560] So it's a bit like, right, right, we've got to keep doing that.
[46:46.560 -> 46:48.320] If that's, you know, if that was successful,
[46:48.320 -> 46:51.120] look at the clues as to why, I never lie to them.
[46:51.120 -> 46:53.080] I will be bold with them though.
[46:53.080 -> 46:54.080] So when I say about,
[46:54.080 -> 46:55.920] I remember James Madison was a player here.
[46:55.920 -> 46:57.840] I'd been here two days and I said to him,
[46:57.840 -> 46:58.920] I said, we've got one player here
[46:58.920 -> 47:00.160] who will end up playing for England.
[47:00.160 -> 47:01.480] They hadn't even seen him play at that point.
[47:01.480 -> 47:02.320] I'm like, he'll play for England.
[47:02.320 -> 47:04.000] We've got to find a way of now getting him through
[47:04.000 -> 47:05.960] and he's gone on and done all right.
[47:05.960 -> 47:08.000] But then ultimately you need them to have the strength
[47:08.000 -> 47:09.120] to believe you.
[47:09.120 -> 47:11.840] And I think it's them if they believe you or not really.
[47:11.840 -> 47:14.760] And I don't know, you'd have to ask them probably why
[47:15.680 -> 47:17.240] more than me, because I don't know.
[47:17.240 -> 47:19.000] But that's how I've always done it.
[47:19.880 -> 47:21.760] And I never fear about getting sacked.
[47:21.760 -> 47:26.700] I never have, because I think when you've come from nothing,
[47:26.700 -> 47:28.600] having nothing isn't scary.
[47:28.600 -> 47:30.640] I said to him after the first year here,
[47:30.640 -> 47:33.280] I said, you're gonna read this, you might wanna sack me.
[47:33.280 -> 47:35.360] You might wanna sack me because it is brutal.
[47:35.360 -> 47:38.320] Like it is literally brutally honest
[47:38.320 -> 47:40.720] about some of the mistakes that I have made
[47:40.720 -> 47:41.960] during this year.
[47:41.960 -> 47:44.040] But a part of that is also some of the learnings
[47:44.040 -> 47:46.000] that have come and this is how we're gonna do it different. I think for every reason they've appreciated that mae'r rhan yw'r dysgu sydd wedi dod yma. Dyna sut rydym yn gwneud y pethau gwahanol. Dw i'n credu, ar unrhyw ddrys,
[47:46.000 -> 47:48.000] maen nhw wedi gobeithio hynny
[47:48.000 -> 47:50.000] a chael ei gynhyrchu.
[47:50.000 -> 47:52.000] Dw i'n ddiolchgar ar hynny,
[47:52.000 -> 47:54.000] oherwydd mae llawer o leoedd
[47:54.000 -> 47:56.000] y gallwch chi weithio yno wedi'u gwneud.
[47:56.000 -> 47:58.000] Rwy'n credu y byddai'r cwes hon
[47:58.000 -> 48:00.000] yn ddiddorol iawn yw
[48:00.000 -> 48:02.000] rwy'n edrych ar lawer o bobl yn chwarae ffotbol
[48:02.000 -> 48:04.000] sy'n cael eu cymryd mewn y gêm.
[48:04.000 -> 48:06.560] Mae'n ffrioddol o'r faniau'n hollbwysig. Mae'n bwysig am y ffaith bod y shackled by their involvement in the game. So they're fearful of the fans all the time. They're worried about the fact that the multi-millionaire
[48:06.560 -> 48:08.680] or billionaire owners are gonna get rid of them
[48:08.680 -> 48:11.360] at the drop of a hat, because that's how football works.
[48:11.360 -> 48:13.160] They can be the king on a Saturday one week,
[48:13.160 -> 48:15.680] and then they can be the villain the following week
[48:15.680 -> 48:17.300] because they haven't won the game.
[48:17.300 -> 48:20.140] Whereas you seem to operate here with absolute freedom
[48:20.140 -> 48:23.800] in your own mind, because you don't look at social media.
[48:23.800 -> 48:26.080] You are okay if the owner turns around and says
[48:26.080 -> 48:28.600] that this journey has come to an end.
[48:28.600 -> 48:30.800] You believe absolutely in what you're doing
[48:30.800 -> 48:32.400] and you're only sticking to that.
[48:32.400 -> 48:34.800] Do you feel that sort of sense of freedom
[48:34.800 -> 48:38.320] that you're on your own journey and nothing can derail it?
[48:38.320 -> 48:39.240] Yeah, absolutely.
[48:39.240 -> 48:41.240] Because at the end of the day, it's a job.
[48:41.240 -> 48:42.760] The reasons I do it for,
[48:43.760 -> 48:46.360] I wanna make the place better for people.
[48:46.360 -> 48:50.560] I want staff to enjoy working here. I want to watch good football being played.
[48:50.560 -> 48:53.680] I want to watch young players. I want to see us grow somewhere because this
[48:53.680 -> 48:57.320] football club is special for so many people because it's the only one in the community.
[48:57.320 -> 49:02.560] You know, it's unique. So I know it's bigger than just one person or anything
[49:02.560 -> 49:08.720] like that. So I think it does give you freedom because when your why is that, it's very different.
[49:08.720 -> 49:12.600] So I'm not doing this job to try and get a better job.
[49:12.600 -> 49:15.360] Now I turned down a massive job last year,
[49:15.360 -> 49:16.900] which would have tripled my salary,
[49:16.900 -> 49:18.440] would have given me unbelievable kudos
[49:18.440 -> 49:20.240] and would have given me tools to work
[49:20.240 -> 49:22.320] at the highest level possible.
[49:22.320 -> 49:24.000] I'd given the owners my word that I'd stay here
[49:24.000 -> 49:25.760] until the end of my contract.
[49:25.760 -> 49:27.360] So it was a really easy decision to say no,
[49:27.360 -> 49:29.880] because it's like, well, yeah, I'm doing a job here.
[49:29.880 -> 49:31.400] I've committed to that and I'm going to do it.
[49:31.400 -> 49:35.360] I think the only pressure I have on myself is
[49:35.360 -> 49:39.400] how can we help more people who need help?
[49:39.400 -> 49:41.160] Because I think if anything, the last year has shown
[49:41.160 -> 49:42.520] is there's a hell of a lot of people out there
[49:42.520 -> 49:43.360] who need help.
[49:43.360 -> 49:45.120] And there's people on our doorstep who need help. And that scares ein ffyrdd sy'n ei ddweud eu bod yn angen help.
[49:45.120 -> 49:47.120] Mae hynny'n sgwrsio'r bywyd a'r dynion i mi.
[49:47.120 -> 49:50.640] Pan ddechrau'n cael ymddygiad i weld rhan o'r gwaith plant ar eich ffyrdd,
[49:50.640 -> 49:54.640] mae'r cyfle i'w gynnal yn ystod y ffordd o gwbl.
[49:54.640 -> 49:57.760] Mae'r hyn rydyn ni'n ei wneud o ran ffotbol yn angenol iawn.
[49:57.760 -> 49:59.760] Mae pobl yma sy'n gallu i'w gynnal i'w plentyn.
[49:59.760 -> 50:01.760] Mae angen i ni wneud rhywbeth am hynny.
[50:01.760 -> 50:05.200] Dyna'r peth i mi, o ran fy nesaf, o ran dechrau ffeydd. we've got to do something about that. And that's what is for me in terms of my personal next journey
[50:05.200 -> 50:06.920] about starting a foundation,
[50:06.920 -> 50:08.680] climbing Everest, because it's been a dream
[50:08.680 -> 50:11.400] and a goal and a determination.
[50:11.400 -> 50:13.240] They're the things which I feel pressure on of,
[50:13.240 -> 50:14.720] right, how am I going to make that happen?
[50:14.720 -> 50:16.480] More than worrying about, you know,
[50:16.480 -> 50:18.360] if we lose next week, am I going to get sacked or not?
[50:18.360 -> 50:21.640] Whatever, you know, Christ, I have the most basic life ever.
[50:21.640 -> 50:23.640] You know, if you come around to my house for a barbecue,
[50:23.640 -> 50:25.520] you'll see me in a Huddersfield Town training top
[50:25.520 -> 50:27.200] and a pair of probably old Liverpool shorts
[50:27.200 -> 50:29.080] and I look like a scruffy so-and-so,
[50:29.080 -> 50:32.320] but that's like, oh yeah, it's just is what it is, you know?
[50:32.320 -> 50:35.360] And my wife takes a piss all the time out of that,
[50:35.360 -> 50:38.040] but I can't change that
[50:38.040 -> 50:41.120] because I'm incredibly comfortable with that.
[50:41.120 -> 50:43.320] Working with that freedom helps, definitely.
[50:44.560 -> 50:47.280] With the freedom that you operate under,
[50:47.280 -> 50:50.200] I'm really interested to know when you arrived at Norwich,
[50:50.200 -> 50:52.520] what you found and what you wanted it to be
[50:52.520 -> 50:54.720] and how you got from the first to the second.
[50:54.720 -> 50:55.960] It was fascinating.
[50:55.960 -> 50:59.840] But when I approached, every document I'd see
[50:59.840 -> 51:02.240] had a saying called best in class.
[51:02.240 -> 51:04.040] And I'd been here about two days
[51:04.040 -> 51:06.860] and everyone I spoke to, every other department
[51:06.860 -> 51:10.180] kept quoting this best in class line.
[51:10.180 -> 51:11.760] So it's been about two days,
[51:11.760 -> 51:13.200] I mean, it was going early here.
[51:13.200 -> 51:16.040] I got to say my head was gone within two days.
[51:16.040 -> 51:17.440] I said, hang on a minute.
[51:17.440 -> 51:19.200] I said, this is, I said to one of them,
[51:19.200 -> 51:21.120] he's not here now, I said,
[51:21.120 -> 51:23.360] don't, you're pissing me off now.
[51:23.360 -> 51:24.520] Best in class.
[51:24.520 -> 51:25.520] What does that mean? So naively he's gone, all right, yeah're pissing me off now. Best in class. What does that mean?
[51:25.520 -> 51:29.160] So naively he's gone, all right, yeah, no, what it means is,
[51:29.160 -> 51:31.040] thinking I didn't know, he's gone,
[51:31.040 -> 51:33.640] it's about being the best in everything we do.
[51:33.640 -> 51:35.520] All right, what do you mean?
[51:35.520 -> 51:37.800] Well, you know, it's the best we do in everything we do,
[51:37.800 -> 51:39.840] everything we do throughout the club.
[51:39.840 -> 51:41.480] Right, that's what it means, is it?
[51:41.480 -> 51:43.080] Yeah, yeah, I've gone.
[51:43.080 -> 51:44.920] If I can explain this to me then,
[51:44.920 -> 51:47.000] you got a gym where you couldn't swing a cat in it.
[51:47.000 -> 51:49.000] You've got a training pitch with a hill in it.
[51:49.000 -> 51:52.000] You've got no floodlights so you can't train in the winter when it's 4 o'clock and it's dark.
[51:52.000 -> 51:54.000] I said, the restaurant is a disgrace.
[51:54.000 -> 51:56.000] What a horrendous environment, no one would want to eat in there.
[51:56.000 -> 51:58.000] You've got 49 porter cabins.
[51:58.000 -> 52:00.000] Is that best in class?
[52:00.000 -> 52:01.000] Because if that is, we've got a problem, mate.
[52:01.000 -> 52:04.000] Because we are at different scales of what best looks like.
[52:04.000 -> 52:07.520] And that's what the place was.
[52:07.520 -> 52:08.760] It was full of gimmicks.
[52:08.760 -> 52:10.280] It was full of sayings.
[52:10.280 -> 52:11.120] Which don't go wrong.
[52:11.120 -> 52:11.960] I think there's a place for that.
[52:11.960 -> 52:13.200] So did they think they were best in class?
[52:13.200 -> 52:14.040] Yeah.
[52:14.040 -> 52:15.680] Or were they just hiding behind the words?
[52:15.680 -> 52:16.640] I think there was a bit of both.
[52:16.640 -> 52:17.480] Right.
[52:17.480 -> 52:18.300] I think there was a bit of,
[52:18.300 -> 52:20.040] they'd probably been conditioned to hide behind the words,
[52:20.040 -> 52:20.880] but also I think some people
[52:20.880 -> 52:22.000] just didn't know what good looked like.
[52:22.000 -> 52:22.840] Yeah.
[52:22.840 -> 52:23.880] And that's not necessarily their fault,
[52:23.880 -> 52:25.520] because some people that maybe haven't been exposed to good.
[52:25.520 -> 52:27.360] I was very lucky on my journey,
[52:27.360 -> 52:28.560] being at a Liverpool, for example,
[52:28.560 -> 52:31.360] where you're suddenly with world-class people
[52:31.360 -> 52:33.080] and go and people who are miles better than you.
[52:33.080 -> 52:35.400] And you're like, you know, you have them drive zone
[52:35.400 -> 52:37.000] where you go, fuck, I'm miles off here.
[52:37.000 -> 52:39.480] And culturally, there's nothing really.
[52:39.480 -> 52:40.400] It was like, you know,
[52:40.400 -> 52:42.160] you'd see players walking off the training pitch
[52:42.160 -> 52:43.800] and, you know, there's players here
[52:43.800 -> 52:44.640] who'd been here a long time,
[52:44.640 -> 52:46.800] who'd achieved unbelievable things at the club
[52:46.800 -> 52:48.480] over sort of eight, nine, 10 years.
[52:48.480 -> 52:51.080] And I was talking to them and they were like,
[52:51.080 -> 52:52.720] you know what, we've had free promotions,
[52:52.720 -> 52:54.400] we've done this, we've done that.
[52:54.400 -> 52:55.920] The training ground hasn't changed.
[52:55.920 -> 52:57.600] Staff still get away with this.
[52:57.600 -> 52:59.320] Standards still aren't good enough.
[52:59.320 -> 53:00.840] You know, and it was like, you could feel it,
[53:00.840 -> 53:02.760] a resentment from within the players,
[53:02.760 -> 53:04.760] within some of the staff of that.
[53:04.760 -> 53:07.560] And there was very much everyone worrying
[53:07.560 -> 53:09.400] about keeping their job mentality,
[53:09.400 -> 53:12.560] because when you live here, as you know, Jake,
[53:12.560 -> 53:13.800] we are detached a bit.
[53:13.800 -> 53:15.000] So if you do lose your job here,
[53:15.000 -> 53:15.880] it's not like you just go and work
[53:15.880 -> 53:17.120] for another football club down the road.
[53:17.120 -> 53:18.200] There isn't one, you've probably got to move
[53:18.200 -> 53:19.040] your whole family.
[53:19.040 -> 53:21.440] So of course that fear of losing your job here,
[53:21.440 -> 53:22.920] it actually changes your life a lot more
[53:22.920 -> 53:24.720] than maybe if you leave it up in the Northwest
[53:24.720 -> 53:26.280] of which you can go and work for another club.
[53:26.280 -> 53:28.640] But there's also, there's just no sort of direction.
[53:28.640 -> 53:31.660] There was no real understanding of what they wanted to be,
[53:31.660 -> 53:33.700] but it's club had still had success on the pitch.
[53:33.700 -> 53:35.040] The club had still achieved promotions
[53:35.040 -> 53:36.600] and a huge respect for that.
[53:36.600 -> 53:38.560] I'm sure whoever replaces me will say,
[53:38.560 -> 53:39.980] things weren't good enough in certain areas.
[53:39.980 -> 53:41.600] Absolutely, because it's not.
[53:41.600 -> 53:43.960] But what we had to do is we had to change the culture.
[53:43.960 -> 53:47.140] We had a list of values,
[53:47.140 -> 53:48.720] which was just a list on the wall.
[53:48.720 -> 53:49.560] And I remember going, what's the point of that?
[53:49.560 -> 53:50.760] It's just a list on the walls.
[53:50.760 -> 53:52.920] You know, one of them was growth.
[53:52.920 -> 53:54.160] You know, and I would call them out.
[53:54.160 -> 53:56.040] They were like, what does that actually mean then?
[53:56.040 -> 53:56.960] What does respect mean?
[53:56.960 -> 53:58.760] It needed a bit of shaking up for sure.
[53:58.760 -> 54:00.360] It needed a bit of discipline brought in,
[54:00.360 -> 54:01.240] but basic discipline.
[54:01.240 -> 54:03.560] I'm on about probably more manners than discipline.
[54:03.560 -> 54:04.480] You know, I remember, you know,
[54:04.480 -> 54:08.080] because I spent my first couple of weeks watching, observing,
[54:08.080 -> 54:11.000] which I know is definitely a skill that I've got.
[54:11.000 -> 54:13.400] I watched how people interacted in the restaurant.
[54:13.400 -> 54:15.580] I watched how people interact with the kit men,
[54:15.580 -> 54:17.040] how people interact with the groundsman,
[54:17.040 -> 54:18.200] and they didn't talk.
[54:18.200 -> 54:20.680] I remember someone coming down from a stadium
[54:20.680 -> 54:23.000] and they were like treated like they had some disease
[54:23.000 -> 54:24.080] or something, it was just going to spread.
[54:24.080 -> 54:26.560] And it was a bit like, so I'm going to talk to this person or what?
[54:26.560 -> 54:27.720] And I hate that.
[54:27.720 -> 54:29.880] Like manners just have to be there.
[54:29.880 -> 54:31.080] You have to have good manners.
[54:31.080 -> 54:32.640] You have to say please and thank you.
[54:32.640 -> 54:34.160] You've got to show respect to people.
[54:34.160 -> 54:37.600] But I was very lucky because one of the reasons to come was I said,
[54:37.600 -> 54:39.760] can I change whatever I want?
[54:39.760 -> 54:42.360] And it was yes, because in fairness to Dean and Michael,
[54:42.360 -> 54:43.920] they'd become a bit detached from the club.
[54:43.920 -> 54:45.200] I remember them saying to me,
[54:45.200 -> 54:47.080] oh, we're not allowed at the training ground.
[54:47.080 -> 54:48.920] And I've gone, you own it.
[54:48.920 -> 54:49.760] It's a bit like someone saying to me,
[54:49.760 -> 54:50.680] I can't go to my own garden.
[54:50.680 -> 54:52.720] It's like, well, I think I can.
[54:52.720 -> 54:54.400] They're like, oh no, they don't want us there.
[54:54.400 -> 54:55.240] You need to be there.
[54:55.240 -> 54:57.360] Because they're two of the most humble people
[54:57.360 -> 54:59.360] with some of the best values I've ever met.
[54:59.360 -> 55:01.920] I've learned so much off them about being human beings.
[55:01.920 -> 55:03.520] I'm like, I need you there.
[55:03.520 -> 55:07.160] Because they need to see if you you at the top of the organization
[55:07.160 -> 55:09.200] and a superstar in your own right,
[55:09.200 -> 55:10.960] in terms of, you know, selling your books
[55:10.960 -> 55:13.220] and all the lists of that and the other,
[55:13.220 -> 55:15.840] if they can see you being a good person,
[55:15.840 -> 55:17.160] it then makes it safe for everyone else
[55:17.160 -> 55:18.800] to feel like they can be a good person.
[55:18.800 -> 55:20.560] And so I needed to bring people,
[55:20.560 -> 55:21.880] you call them cultural architects,
[55:21.880 -> 55:24.100] needed to bring a couple of them in the building.
[55:24.100 -> 55:26.560] We needed to add some into the playing squad and breed it now. ac roedd angen i ni ddod â phobl, dywedwch nhw architectau ddiwylliannol, roedd angen i ni ddod â rhai o'r rhain yn y adeilad. Roedd angen i ni ddod â rhai o'r rhain i'r sgwrs chwarae
[55:26.560 -> 55:29.160] a'i ddynnu nawr. Un peth yw, rwy'n fawr iawn
[55:29.160 -> 55:30.960] y mae gennym ni yma. Beth bynnag
[55:30.960 -> 55:33.660] rydym ni'n llwyr neu ddim yn llwyr,
[55:33.660 -> 55:35.280] rwy'n gwybod ein bod ni'n llwyr o bobl da.
[55:35.280 -> 55:38.000] A phobl ddifrifol sy'n gweithio'n fawr,
[55:38.000 -> 55:40.800] sy'n eisiau mynd ymlaen. Ie, mae gennym ffyrdd a rhai argyfwngau
[55:40.800 -> 55:44.000] ac rydym ni'n ddiddorol, ac rydyn ni'n cael fy nghyffredin ac rydyn ni'n cael ymdrech, wrth gwrs.
[55:44.000 -> 55:46.880] Felly dyna'n rhaid. Maeflict is important, but at the heart of it,
[55:46.880 -> 55:48.880] it's people who actually are good people
[55:48.880 -> 55:51.360] and look each other in the eye and say, please,
[55:51.360 -> 55:52.200] they say, thank you.
[55:52.200 -> 55:54.040] You know, whether it's a 19 year old player,
[55:54.040 -> 55:56.160] whether it's a 36 year old international player,
[55:56.160 -> 55:57.600] whether it's a staff member,
[55:57.600 -> 55:59.760] they respect the fact that we're fortunate
[55:59.760 -> 56:01.400] that someone's cooked our dinner.
[56:01.400 -> 56:03.040] So the least I can do is put my plate back.
[56:03.040 -> 56:04.560] You know, it's little things like, you know,
[56:04.560 -> 56:05.880] when we go away from home,
[56:05.880 -> 56:07.960] we make sure we leave the dressing room as we find it.
[56:07.960 -> 56:09.280] And it's about respect.
[56:09.280 -> 56:11.260] Being good people doesn't cost anything.
[56:11.260 -> 56:12.960] Anyone can do that in the world,
[56:12.960 -> 56:15.420] whether you're homeless or whether you're a billionaire,
[56:15.420 -> 56:17.440] you can be a good human being
[56:17.440 -> 56:20.000] and just show respect for our environment.
[56:20.000 -> 56:21.880] If you see a piece of litter, pick it up.
[56:21.880 -> 56:23.460] You always talk about culture is what's happening
[56:23.460 -> 56:25.000] when your back's turned. And that's crucial. You know, we've got some at the minute with one of our people who works here Os gwelwch chi ddarn o'r llwybrau, gweldwch hi. Yn ystod y diwrnod, yw'r diwydiant yw beth sy'n digwydd pan ydych chi'n ymwneud â'r ddau.
[56:25.000 -> 56:25.840] Ac mae hynny'n bwysig.
[56:25.840 -> 56:29.160] Mae gennym rhai o'n gweithwyr ar hyn o bryd
[56:29.160 -> 56:30.680] sy'n byw'n bywyd gwahanol,
[56:30.680 -> 56:32.000] yn ystod y diwrnod,
[56:32.000 -> 56:34.560] mae'n anhygoel,
[56:34.560 -> 56:37.680] ond rwy'n gweld sut mae'r bobl yn ymgyrchu ar ôl iddo,
[56:37.680 -> 56:38.800] ac rwy'n fwyaf hyfforddi.
[56:38.800 -> 56:40.680] Mae'n un o'n, ac rydym yn edrych arno.
[56:40.680 -> 56:43.640] Felly beth byddai'r gweithwyr 18 oed o Wrexham
[56:43.640 -> 56:45.000] yn gwneud o'r ddinas Norwich heddiw?
[56:45.000 -> 56:49.000] Pa mor oedd e'n ei gwybod fel ysgolion y ddewisodd e arno hynny,
[56:49.000 -> 56:52.000] a'i gweld yn dal i'w ddod o'r ffordd?
[56:52.000 -> 56:54.000] Yn siŵr, y peth o ddeall ymdrechion.
[56:54.000 -> 56:56.000] Felly, roedd Joey Jones yn gweithio ar Wrexham,
[56:56.000 -> 56:58.000] un o'r ddau oedd yn cwblhau yng Nghymru, o'r blwyddyn.
[56:58.000 -> 57:00.000] Roedd e'n cael ddweud, a dweudd e'r blaen i'r plant,
[57:00.000 -> 57:03.000] mae'n dda i fod yn bwysig, ond mae'n bwysig iawn i fod yn dda.
[57:03.000 -> 57:06.800] Ac mae hynny bob tro wedi'i gofyn. Roedd hynny'n y gwell ymgyrch o'r unig. say to the kids, it's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice. And that has always stuck in my head.
[57:06.800 -> 57:08.600] That was the best apprenticeship ever.
[57:08.600 -> 57:12.740] And I would no way ever have had any level of success
[57:12.740 -> 57:15.320] in my personal life or work life
[57:15.320 -> 57:17.980] if it hadn't have been for that period at Wrexham.
[57:17.980 -> 57:19.560] Because they taught me,
[57:19.560 -> 57:22.620] they taught me how to be a proper bloke,
[57:22.620 -> 57:24.760] cool people out, can have it with people,
[57:24.760 -> 57:27.280] but also how to be incredibly respectful.
[57:27.280 -> 57:29.120] And even though that you think you're important
[57:29.120 -> 57:31.040] because you can easily get carried away on this journey,
[57:31.040 -> 57:33.200] right, we've all been that
[57:33.200 -> 57:35.560] because people put you on a pedestal,
[57:35.560 -> 57:37.360] but how them values are vitally important.
[57:37.360 -> 57:39.800] And I'd like to think if you spoke to anyone
[57:39.800 -> 57:41.880] who I worked with at Huddersfield
[57:41.880 -> 57:43.760] or anyone who I work with here after I've gone,
[57:43.760 -> 57:47.360] because at the minute it probably feel like they have to say good things. I'd like to think whatever
[57:47.360 -> 57:50.560] they say, whether they thought I was good, bad or indifferent, they'd go, you know what,
[57:50.560 -> 57:51.560] he's a decent bloke.
[57:51.560 -> 57:55.720] Two other final points from me. There were people listening to this and they'll be listening
[57:55.720 -> 57:59.560] to this thinking, oh, I wish I had that self-confidence, I wish I had that self-belief, the geezer's
[57:59.560 -> 58:03.240] rock solid, no problem. Do you have doubts?
[58:03.240 -> 58:05.880] Every day. I wake up every morning at the minute
[58:05.880 -> 58:07.400] and I think of two things.
[58:07.400 -> 58:09.120] Every single day for the last,
[58:09.120 -> 58:09.960] since you got relegated,
[58:09.960 -> 58:11.600] I think of two things when I wake up.
[58:11.600 -> 58:13.240] I think of Watford at home,
[58:13.240 -> 58:15.240] when we give a goal away after two minutes.
[58:15.240 -> 58:17.440] And I think of Mikael Antonio scoring four goals
[58:17.440 -> 58:19.560] against us the day we got relegated for West Ham.
[58:19.560 -> 58:21.840] And it scares the living daylights out of me,
[58:21.840 -> 58:23.680] the thought of that ever happening again.
[58:23.680 -> 58:24.520] It scares me.
[58:24.520 -> 58:26.000] It's what drives me every day.
[58:26.000 -> 58:29.200] It's why at the minute I'm finding it very, very difficult
[58:29.200 -> 58:31.720] to enjoy what we're about to do
[58:31.720 -> 58:35.160] because I slip into trying to enjoy it.
[58:35.160 -> 58:37.040] And that just comes back in my head.
[58:37.040 -> 58:37.920] No, but I have lots of doubts.
[58:37.920 -> 58:39.120] You know, I had it in my first year here.
[58:39.120 -> 58:41.480] I remember my first year here, we finished 14th,
[58:41.480 -> 58:42.640] Huddersfield stayed up.
[58:42.640 -> 58:45.200] And I spoke about this before publicly.
[58:45.200 -> 58:47.000] I remember the end of that year,
[58:47.000 -> 58:49.560] I had a week at home by myself.
[58:49.560 -> 58:52.680] I remember sitting there going,
[58:52.680 -> 58:54.000] am I shit?
[58:54.000 -> 58:55.520] Maybe I don't know what I'm doing.
[58:55.520 -> 58:58.160] Maybe Huddersfield was all a fluke.
[58:58.160 -> 59:00.860] Maybe I had nothing to do with that success.
[59:00.860 -> 59:04.080] Maybe everything I believe in is completely wrong.
[59:04.080 -> 59:06.040] And honestly, I went
[59:06.040 -> 59:11.520] to a dark place, like a horrendously dark place of some of the thoughts I was thinking
[59:11.520 -> 59:16.240] and it's like, poor, what's going on here? And, uh, and I spoke to three people about
[59:16.240 -> 59:20.360] it. Uh, one was my wife, one was a club chaplain and one was one of my best mates of like,
[59:20.360 -> 59:23.920] what do you think about this? And luckily all three of them were like, I can live it
[59:23.920 -> 59:26.080] up with you. You just want to be the best at what you do.
[59:26.080 -> 59:27.080] You want to be successful.
[59:27.080 -> 59:30.200] You want to, when people are relying on you as well,
[59:30.200 -> 59:32.440] you know, I knew people, staff were looking at,
[59:32.440 -> 59:33.760] oh God, and what are you going to do?
[59:33.760 -> 59:34.600] They don't have to say anything.
[59:34.600 -> 59:35.560] You can feel them looking at you.
[59:35.560 -> 59:36.440] You know, I don't know if you've ever had that,
[59:36.440 -> 59:39.160] but like when you know that everyone's looking at me here
[59:39.160 -> 59:41.680] as to see how I'm going to react, what I'm going to do next.
[59:41.680 -> 59:42.560] Am I going to come out fighting?
[59:42.560 -> 59:44.560] Am I going to cry and get off or whatever?
[59:44.560 -> 59:46.600] Incredibly tough, but it's about,
[59:46.600 -> 59:48.280] I think it's about being honest about that though.
[59:48.280 -> 59:50.320] It's about, first of all, yourself.
[59:50.320 -> 59:52.440] There's no more person you can be honest with
[59:52.440 -> 59:53.280] than yourself.
[59:53.280 -> 59:54.100] If you can't be honest with yourself,
[59:54.100 -> 59:55.560] then you probably should give up,
[59:55.560 -> 59:57.120] but you've got to give your time to be honest with yourself.
[59:57.120 -> 59:59.560] I make sure now I spend a lot of time
[59:59.560 -> 01:00:02.740] to have them honest reflections,
[01:00:02.740 -> 01:00:05.400] but then also knowing who you can speak to about them.
[01:00:05.400 -> 01:00:07.080] I show my vulnerability all the time.
[01:00:07.080 -> 01:00:09.360] I will start meetings and go, guys, I've got to be honest,
[01:00:09.360 -> 01:00:11.120] I've really messed this one up.
[01:00:11.120 -> 01:00:12.520] That was my fault,
[01:00:13.440 -> 01:00:14.280] boom, boom, boom.
[01:00:14.280 -> 01:00:15.960] And then it creates where other people can be vulnerable.
[01:00:15.960 -> 01:00:17.160] And I think it's,
[01:00:17.160 -> 01:00:19.040] I think when you get into that place
[01:00:19.040 -> 01:00:20.920] of knowing vulnerability is all right,
[01:00:20.920 -> 01:00:23.160] and it took me a long time to work that out,
[01:00:23.160 -> 01:00:24.360] to be honest with you,
[01:00:24.360 -> 01:00:26.080] I think that becomes a superpower.
[01:00:26.080 -> 01:00:28.000] Because I think what I found is,
[01:00:28.000 -> 01:00:30.720] you have so much more respect from people
[01:00:30.720 -> 01:00:33.880] when you can actually go, you don't know, or I'm scared,
[01:00:33.880 -> 01:00:35.440] you know, I need help,
[01:00:35.440 -> 01:00:37.880] when you actually try and be the macho guy
[01:00:37.880 -> 01:00:39.760] and I've got all the answers guy and all the rest of it.
[01:00:39.760 -> 01:00:41.520] Now, there's some days you have to turn that on.
[01:00:41.520 -> 01:00:45.640] After relegation, staff, the media players
[01:00:45.640 -> 01:00:47.480] didn't need to see a bloke moping around going,
[01:00:47.480 -> 01:00:48.600] oh, I feel vulnerable.
[01:00:48.600 -> 01:00:49.760] They needed to see leadership.
[01:00:49.760 -> 01:00:51.840] But you've also, once you've got that ability
[01:00:51.840 -> 01:00:54.200] to show vulnerability, I do think that's a superpower
[01:00:54.200 -> 01:00:55.560] because I think people want to help you.
[01:00:55.560 -> 01:00:58.920] And with that vulnerability, what are you not very good at?
[01:00:58.920 -> 01:01:00.760] That'd be an hour episode by itself.
[01:01:00.760 -> 01:01:02.320] Okay, what are you worst at?
[01:01:02.320 -> 01:01:04.720] I struggle to hide disappointment
[01:01:04.720 -> 01:01:06.000] if I feel I've been let down.
[01:01:06.000 -> 01:01:09.000] I really struggle with, um, can we have a catch up tomorrow?
[01:01:09.000 -> 01:01:11.000] I know that that means there's something wrong.
[01:01:11.000 -> 01:01:14.000] I can't sleep if I'm thinking what that is.
[01:01:14.000 -> 01:01:16.000] It's like, let's deal with that right now.
[01:01:16.000 -> 01:01:20.000] I know I'm poor at some management things, such as emails and that.
[01:01:20.000 -> 01:01:24.000] My meetings are horrendously, badly structured.
[01:01:24.000 -> 01:01:27.160] Because I don't like, I believe in, let's get around and chat
[01:01:27.160 -> 01:01:28.560] and talk and have a cup of tea,
[01:01:28.560 -> 01:01:31.120] as opposed to, right, point one of the agenda
[01:01:31.120 -> 01:01:32.240] is I struggle with that,
[01:01:32.240 -> 01:01:33.680] so I'm the world's worst at a board meeting,
[01:01:33.680 -> 01:01:36.080] because you will find me, I get asked sometimes,
[01:01:36.080 -> 01:01:36.920] what do you think of that, Stuart?
[01:01:36.920 -> 01:01:39.280] I'm like, sorry, I've not listened for 20 minutes,
[01:01:39.280 -> 01:01:40.880] I've zoned out here, I'm thinking about
[01:01:40.880 -> 01:01:42.200] how I'm going to climb Everest,
[01:01:42.200 -> 01:01:45.000] not, you know, what I think of this policy or whatever,, beth rydw i'n meddwl o'r ymdrech hon, neu beth bynnag.
[01:01:45.000 -> 01:01:48.000] Ac rydw i'n byw o ddetail ar y pethau rydw i ddim yn mwynhau.
[01:01:48.000 -> 01:01:51.000] Felly rydw i'n ymwneud â'r ddetail, ond yn byw o'r peth.
[01:01:51.000 -> 01:01:54.000] Felly os yw'n ddetail ar ein ymdrech hwnnw, ymdrech HR,
[01:01:54.000 -> 01:01:55.000] dwi ddim yn gallu ei ddysgu.
[01:01:55.000 -> 01:01:56.000] Ac rhaid i mi ddweud i bobl,
[01:01:56.000 -> 01:01:58.000] dweud i mi a ydyn ni'n rhaid i mi ddweud yna, neu na.
[01:01:58.000 -> 01:01:59.000] Ac rhaid i mi gael fy nghymryd ar hynny,
[01:01:59.000 -> 01:02:01.000] oherwydd dyna'n rhan o bywyd hefyd,
[01:02:01.000 -> 01:02:03.000] ac mae rhai bobl yn eich stylau,
[01:02:03.000 -> 01:02:06.000] maen nhw angen i mi fod yn well ar hynny felly byddwn i'n ceisio.
[01:02:06.000 -> 01:02:08.000] Brifysgol iawn, diolch.
[01:02:08.000 -> 01:02:10.000] Felly, byddwn ni'n mynd i'r cyfan cyflym, yna.
[01:02:10.000 -> 01:02:16.000] Felly, y cyfan gyntaf yw beth yw'r tri fathau ddim-drawedgol y mae angen i chi a phob un o'ch gilydd i'w gael i'w gael.
[01:02:16.000 -> 01:02:18.000] Gweithio'n hard.
[01:02:18.000 -> 01:02:25.120] Os na allwn i chi gweithio'n hard, dwi ddim yn gallu edrych arnoch chi, nid yn oed yn gweithio gyda chi, neu byw gyda chi. Positifiaeth.
[01:02:26.840 -> 01:02:28.920] Rwy'n cofio'r dweudwyr, y broblem yw cyfle ar gyfer y gwirionedd.
[01:02:28.920 -> 01:02:30.200] Rwy'n credu hynny'n wir.
[01:02:30.200 -> 01:02:31.560] Ac mae'n fy nghyflawni,
[01:02:31.560 -> 01:02:34.400] pan mae pobl yn ymwneud â mi,
[01:02:34.400 -> 01:02:36.440] oh, golyg, rhoi i mi unrhywbeth na hynny.
[01:02:36.440 -> 01:02:38.400] Felly, rhaid i chi fod yn positif.
[01:02:38.400 -> 01:02:40.000] Ac rhaid i chi fod yn ambwysig.
[01:02:40.000 -> 01:02:42.400] Rhaid i chi credu ein bod yn gallu bod yn well
[01:02:42.400 -> 01:02:44.320] neu'n gallu bod yn beth yr hofft y bydd pawb eraill yn meddwl.
[01:02:44.320 -> 01:02:46.720] Neu os na, gwneud eich swydd yma.
[01:02:46.720 -> 01:02:51.560] Eich lle mewn gwirionedd, byddwn yn y 30ed o'r clwb o'r 92au.
[01:02:51.560 -> 01:02:54.480] Felly i ni i gael a chael yn y Liga Prima,
[01:02:54.480 -> 01:03:00.280] mae angen i ni feddwl mwy o hynny, mae angen i ni fod ambwysig, mae angen i ni gwrdd â phethau, mae angen i ni ddweud y rhaid i ni ymwneud â'r rhaid i ni ymwneud â'r rhaid i ni ymwneud â'r rhaid i ni ymwneud â'r rhaid i ni ymwneud â'r rhaid i ni ymwneud â'r rhaid i ni ymwneud â'r rhaid i ni ymwneud â'r rhaid i ni ymwneud â'r rhaid i ni ymwneud â'r rhaid i ni ymwneud â'r rhaid i ni ymwneud â'r rhaid i ni ymwneud â'r rhaid i ni ymwneud â'r rhaid i ni ymwneud ag yna.
[01:03:00.280 -> 01:03:03.520] Dwi ddim yn cael pethau i ddweud hynny.
[01:03:03.520 -> 01:03:06.000] Dwi ddim yn cael pethau i ddweud hynny. Pa gwyb deall sut i ddweud hynny. Dwi'n deall sut i ddweud hynny.
[01:03:06.000 -> 01:03:08.000] Dwi'n deall sut i ddweud hynny.
[01:03:08.000 -> 01:03:10.000] Dwi'n deall sut i ddweud hynny.
[01:03:10.000 -> 01:03:12.000] Dwi'n deall sut i ddweud hynny.
[01:03:12.000 -> 01:03:14.000] Dwi'n deall sut i ddweud hynny.
[01:03:14.000 -> 01:03:16.000] Dwi'n deall sut i ddweud hynny.
[01:03:16.000 -> 01:03:18.000] Dwi'n deall sut i ddweud hynny.
[01:03:18.000 -> 01:03:20.000] Dwi'n deall sut i ddweud hynny.
[01:03:20.000 -> 01:03:22.000] Dwi'n deall sut i ddweud hynny.
[01:03:22.000 -> 01:03:24.000] Dwi'n deall sut i ddweud hynny.
[01:03:24.000 -> 01:03:27.160] Dwi'n deall sut i ddweud hynny. Dwi'n deall sut i ddweud hynny. a long time to realize how looking after myself was important. You know, I was four stone heavier than this
[01:03:27.160 -> 01:03:28.860] only four or five years ago.
[01:03:28.860 -> 01:03:33.160] I didn't realize the mental help that exercise gives you.
[01:03:33.160 -> 01:03:36.160] So, you know, I wish, or if I was advising someone now,
[01:03:36.160 -> 01:03:38.040] be like, look after yourself, get fitter,
[01:03:38.040 -> 01:03:39.940] get fitter, lose weight.
[01:03:39.940 -> 01:03:42.960] You know, one of my biggest challenges is food.
[01:03:42.960 -> 01:03:45.000] You know, if I feel down, I eat a lot.
[01:03:45.000 -> 01:03:47.240] And so managing that is tough,
[01:03:47.240 -> 01:03:50.040] but then also reading in terms of clever reading,
[01:03:50.040 -> 01:03:51.520] reading books, which make you better,
[01:03:51.520 -> 01:03:53.680] reading from people who make you better.
[01:03:53.680 -> 01:03:55.640] I've done an incredible amount of reading
[01:03:55.640 -> 01:03:57.240] the last five, six years.
[01:03:57.240 -> 01:03:59.760] And I think if you can have that mindset earlier,
[01:03:59.760 -> 01:04:01.440] I think so much to learn from people.
[01:04:01.440 -> 01:04:04.600] And to be honest, now it's probably maybe even less reading.
[01:04:04.600 -> 01:04:07.000] It's more listening to podcasts because that's a brilliant thing with the world now Mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud hynny, mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud hynny, mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud hynny, mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud hynny, mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud hynny, mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud hynny, mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud hynny, mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud hynny, mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud hynny, mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud hynny, mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud hynny, mae'n rhaid i you to do it.
[01:04:07.000 -> 01:04:09.000] Mae'n rhaid i you to do it.
[01:04:09.000 -> 01:04:11.000] Mae'n rhaid i you to do it.
[01:04:11.000 -> 01:04:13.000] Mae'n rhaid i you to do it.
[01:04:13.000 -> 01:04:15.000] Mae'n rhaid i you to do it.
[01:04:15.000 -> 01:04:17.000] Mae'n rhaid i you to do it.
[01:04:17.000 -> 01:04:19.000] Mae'n rhaid i you to do it.
[01:04:19.000 -> 01:04:21.000] Mae'n rhaid i you to do it.
[01:04:21.000 -> 01:04:23.000] Mae'n rhaid i you to do it.
[01:04:23.000 -> 01:04:26.480] Mae'n rhaid i you to do it. Mae'n rhaid i you to do it. Mae'. Yeah was fascinating, you know, it's like an hour and a quarter in the car
[01:04:26.480 -> 01:04:33.340] I'm like, yeah, wow, you know, it gets you really sort of thinking and yeah, there's always them opportunities to do that
[01:04:33.340 -> 01:04:35.580] How did you react to your greatest failure?
[01:04:37.020 -> 01:04:38.260] privately
[01:04:38.260 -> 01:04:47.000] Very badly publicly you wouldn't have known but yeah, yeah badly in what way I think just that feeling of incredible anger Yn y ffordd? Iawn, rwy'n credu bod y teimlad o angor anhygoel, anhygoel anhygoel,
[01:04:47.000 -> 01:04:50.000] fel bod y byd cymaint yn fwriwch aroch chi,
[01:04:50.000 -> 01:04:54.000] a sut mae hynny'n ei wneud i chi, neu sut mae hynny'n ei wneud i mi,
[01:04:54.000 -> 01:04:55.000] nid oedd yn dda.
[01:04:55.000 -> 01:05:01.000] Byddais i'n well i ddeall mai hwn o ran dysgu, o ran cynyddu, o ran ymdrech,
[01:05:01.000 -> 01:05:03.000] ond rydw i wedi mynd i mewn i le,
[01:05:03.000 -> 01:05:06.000] nid oedd yn unigol iawn, Byddwn wedi bod yn well i ddeall mai hwn o ran dysgu, o ran grwpio, o ran ymdrech.
[01:05:06.000 -> 01:05:10.000] Ond rydw i wedi mynd i lefel ddim yn dda iawn
[01:05:10.000 -> 01:05:14.000] am ychydig amser a ddim yn dda iawn i fod ymlaen.
[01:05:14.000 -> 01:05:18.000] Ie, mae llawer o'r ymdrechion yn dod o hynny.
[01:05:18.000 -> 01:05:20.000] Yn aml, y cwestiwn yw, ydych chi'n hapus?
[01:05:20.000 -> 01:05:22.000] Ond rydw i'n credu ein bod yn gwybod'r cynnydd i hynny.
[01:05:22.000 -> 01:05:24.000] Rwy'n eisiau gwblhau'r cwestion hwn o ran ychydig,
[01:05:24.000 -> 01:05:28.440] oherwydd rydych chi'n gweithio yma gyda trio rheoliant but I think we know the answer to that. I want to flip this one round a bit because you operate here with a management trio of yourself,
[01:05:28.640 -> 01:05:30.080] your wife and Ben,
[01:05:30.080 -> 01:05:31.760] who runs the non-footballing side of things.
[01:05:31.760 -> 01:05:36.200] You live with a person who you work with as well.
[01:05:36.200 -> 01:05:39.780] So are you an easy person to work and live with?
[01:05:40.840 -> 01:05:42.680] You'd have to ask them.
[01:05:42.680 -> 01:05:44.760] I'm definitely an easy person to live with
[01:05:44.760 -> 01:05:46.000] because I know I'm helpful around the person to live with because I'm...
[01:05:46.000 -> 01:05:48.000] I know I'm helpful around the house
[01:05:48.000 -> 01:05:50.000] because I can't really sit still.
[01:05:50.000 -> 01:05:52.000] So if the dishwasher needs filling or emptying
[01:05:52.000 -> 01:05:54.000] I'll do that.
[01:05:54.000 -> 01:05:56.000] So yeah, in terms of the work, you'd have to ask them.
[01:05:56.000 -> 01:05:58.000] I know it can be difficult at times because
[01:05:58.000 -> 01:06:00.000] I struggle with taking no for an answer
[01:06:00.000 -> 01:06:02.000] if it's about making us better.
[01:06:02.000 -> 01:06:04.000] So I know I can be
[01:06:04.000 -> 01:06:06.000] sorry we are building that swimming pool,
[01:06:06.000 -> 01:06:09.960] but I'll raise the money for it. Don't worry about that. So I'm don't need your help. I'm
[01:06:09.960 -> 01:06:13.600] not someone else's responsibility. I'll take full responsibility for that, by the way.
[01:06:13.600 -> 01:06:18.080] So I do it for definitely the right reasons. But, but I'm sure it challenges people at
[01:06:18.080 -> 01:06:23.600] times. I'm sure people wish I'd probably probably piss off, you know, but it's always from the
[01:06:23.600 -> 01:06:27.080] right reasons. I never do anything for my own self.
[01:06:27.080 -> 01:06:29.920] It's a mindset of, no, we're going to be bigger than that.
[01:06:29.920 -> 01:06:31.720] And why can't this club be a big club?
[01:06:31.720 -> 01:06:33.000] Yeah, we can't be man-united
[01:06:33.000 -> 01:06:35.360] because they're based on incredible history
[01:06:35.360 -> 01:06:38.040] going back to the Busby Babes and what have you.
[01:06:38.040 -> 01:06:40.240] But it's a mentality of,
[01:06:40.240 -> 01:06:41.520] we can be a top 10 Premier League club
[01:06:41.520 -> 01:06:42.560] and this is how we're going to do it.
[01:06:42.560 -> 01:06:43.720] But we're going to grow into that,
[01:06:43.720 -> 01:06:46.400] not just, oh, hopefully you'll become one, it'd be nice,
[01:06:46.400 -> 01:06:47.400] finish 10th for the Premier League.
[01:06:47.400 -> 01:06:49.400] No, the mentality of, no, this is what we are
[01:06:49.400 -> 01:06:52.400] and the type of players we sign, the type of people we have around the place,
[01:06:52.400 -> 01:06:54.400] actions, and I think if you spoke to anyone here,
[01:06:54.400 -> 01:06:57.400] the one thing they'd say about me, it gets things done.
[01:06:57.400 -> 01:06:58.400] And I know I do that.
[01:06:58.400 -> 01:07:01.400] So if we have an idea and I believe in it,
[01:07:01.400 -> 01:07:03.400] it's like, no, let's find a way.
[01:07:03.400 -> 01:07:08.200] And finally, what is your one golden rule to live a high-performance life? Ac rwy'n credu yn ni, mae'n dweud, na, gadewch i ni ddod o ffordd. A'n ddiweddar, chef, beth yw eich rhaid i chi ddod o ffordd i byw bywyd cyffredinol?
[01:07:08.200 -> 01:07:11.000] Rhoi'r cymorth i mi bob dydd.
[01:07:11.000 -> 01:07:15.000] Ddewch i mewn y diwrnod a gwneud y diwrnod yn well na'r diwrnod diwethaf.
[01:07:15.000 -> 01:07:18.000] Mae'n iawn, ar ôl i chi, dwi'n credu, i fod yn hapus
[01:07:18.000 -> 01:07:20.000] yn gweithio mewn agweddau news leol.
[01:07:20.000 -> 01:07:23.000] A mynd i'r home a dweud, mae gen i ddau gwirioneddol, mae gen i ddau gwirioneddol fynny.
[01:07:23.000 -> 01:07:26.720] A dwi'n gwybod, dyna'r cynghorau i mi.
[01:07:26.720 -> 01:07:29.520] Oherwydd, rwy'n sicr y dwi'n y gweithydd mwyaf,
[01:07:29.520 -> 01:07:31.520] oherwydd pan ddod ymlaen, dwi'n gwybod eu enwau,
[01:07:31.520 -> 01:07:33.520] ac rydw i'n gofyn am eu rhaglen, ac rydw i'n gofyn am hyn a hyn.
[01:07:33.520 -> 01:07:35.520] Ac mae'n ddiddorol, rydyn ni i gyd wedi mynd i'r shopau hyn,
[01:07:35.520 -> 01:07:37.520] lle dyna'n mynd i mewn, rydw i'n ffodus i fynd i mewn.
[01:07:37.520 -> 01:07:38.960] Oherwydd maen nhw'n siarad â chi,
[01:07:38.960 -> 01:07:40.560] mae eich mam yn dweud, dwi'n gwybod, neu beth bynnag,
[01:07:40.560 -> 01:07:42.080] ac maen nhw'n gwneud i chi teimlo'n bwysig.
[01:07:42.080 -> 01:07:43.520] Felly mae'n ymwneud â hynny,
[01:07:43.520 -> 01:07:45.120] ac mae'n ymwneud â chael mynd. Mae unrhywbeth yn bosibl, ac dwi ddim yn golygu hynny mewn ffordd gwirioneddol, or whatever like that, and they make you feel special. It's about that. And it's about, yeah, having a go.
[01:07:45.120 -> 01:07:46.640] Like anything is possible.
[01:07:46.640 -> 01:07:48.440] And I don't mean that in a cheesy way,
[01:07:48.440 -> 01:07:50.160] because it's not possible for me to become the quickest
[01:07:50.160 -> 01:07:51.240] runner in a hundred meters now.
[01:07:51.240 -> 01:07:54.600] I know that's not possible, but having a good life is.
[01:07:54.600 -> 01:07:57.560] Anyone can choose to have a better life and grow
[01:07:57.560 -> 01:08:00.600] and achieve more stuff.
[01:08:00.600 -> 01:08:01.720] So have a go at it.
[01:08:01.720 -> 01:08:04.200] Yeah. It takes us back to responsibility,
[01:08:04.200 -> 01:08:06.920] which is probably the number one topic on this podcast
[01:08:06.920 -> 01:08:08.400] over the last 12 months.
[01:08:08.400 -> 01:08:10.360] Thanks so much for that conversation.
[01:08:10.360 -> 01:08:11.760] What I love sitting here is,
[01:08:11.760 -> 01:08:14.080] and there will be people who are listening to this,
[01:08:14.080 -> 01:08:15.300] so they don't know where we're sitting,
[01:08:15.300 -> 01:08:16.920] but we're sitting in one of the newest buildings
[01:08:16.920 -> 01:08:17.960] here at the football club.
[01:08:17.960 -> 01:08:19.540] And when you talk about getting things done,
[01:08:19.540 -> 01:08:23.820] you came here in 2017, so four years ago.
[01:08:23.820 -> 01:08:27.120] And in that time, there's been an absolute transformation on the football field, off the football field, Yn 2017, felly, ychydig flynyddoedd yn ôl. Yn y cyfnod honno, roedd ymdrechion ar y ffyrdd ffyrdd ffyrdd,
[01:08:27.120 -> 01:08:29.760] ar y ffyrdd ffyrdd ffyrdd, gyda'r staff, gyda'r bobl,
[01:08:29.760 -> 01:08:32.800] sefydliad, sylwadau, cynhyrchu.
[01:08:32.800 -> 01:08:34.880] Gallwch edrych ar unrhyw ffaseg y club ffyrdd ffyrdd
[01:08:34.880 -> 01:08:37.840] a gwybod bod o'r diwrnod rydych chi'n mynd drwy'r ddewr yn 2017
[01:08:37.840 -> 01:08:40.960] i nawr, mae'n datblygu, mae'n gwella, mae'n newid.
[01:08:40.960 -> 01:08:43.360] Fel fan o Norwich, diolch yn fawr iawn,
[01:08:43.360 -> 01:08:46.540] ond mwy na hynny fel arweinwyr y podcast hon, diolch am ddod ymlaen a rannu'r syniadau gyda ni. It's improved, it's changed, and as a Norwich fan, thanks very much, but more than that, as a host of this podcast, thanks so much for coming on
[01:08:46.540 -> 01:08:48.320] and sharing your thoughts with us.
[01:08:48.320 -> 01:08:49.320] No, pleasure, thanks.
[01:08:49.320 -> 01:08:52.820] Really appreciate you having me, thank you.
[01:08:54.160 -> 01:08:55.000] Damien.
[01:08:55.000 -> 01:08:55.820] Jake.
[01:08:55.820 -> 01:08:57.500] You know that old phrase,
[01:08:57.500 -> 01:08:59.720] dream without hard work is just a dream,
[01:08:59.720 -> 01:09:02.240] hard work without a dream is just hard work?
[01:09:02.240 -> 01:09:04.860] I love the fact that he works clearly so hard,
[01:09:04.860 -> 01:09:06.000] but he does it with that dream that he formulated as a little kid, winning the Premier League. Mae gweithio'n anodd ond ddim yn ddweud. Rwy'n hoffi'r ffaith bod yn gweithio'n anodd, ond mae'n ei wneud gyda'r ddweim hwnnw
[01:09:06.000 -> 01:09:08.000] a'r ydyw i'n ei ffurfio fel pethau'n bach
[01:09:08.000 -> 01:09:10.000] yn gwaith y Liga'r Prifysgol.
[01:09:10.000 -> 01:09:12.000] Pan ydych chi'n cerdded a'n clywed Stuart fel hynny,
[01:09:12.000 -> 01:09:14.000] rydych chi'n ddweud,
[01:09:14.000 -> 01:09:16.000] dyna'n ddiddorol,
[01:09:16.000 -> 01:09:18.000] y byddai'n ei wneud yn y diwedd.
[01:09:18.000 -> 01:09:20.000] Yn wir, rwy'n credu bod y frasau
[01:09:20.000 -> 01:09:22.000] y mae'n ei ddweud o'i gyd yn gwneud yn digwydd.
[01:09:22.000 -> 01:09:24.000] Mae'n beth hwnnw'n hapus i'w ddweud,
[01:09:24.000 -> 01:09:25.400] ond i'w gweithio ac i a chael y blociau adeiladu
[01:09:25.400 -> 01:09:30.480] a chael ystod y bach yn ystod yr hyn roedd yn mynd i'r home i weithio i'r rex,
[01:09:30.480 -> 01:09:35.560] a chael y swydd o ddysgu i'r tîm y byddai'n cael arno ar gyfer ddim.
[01:09:35.560 -> 01:09:39.440] Mae'r bach yn ystod y bach yn mynd i'r ffyrdd hwnnw.
[01:09:39.440 -> 01:09:44.480] Rwy'n credu bod un o'r pethau mwyaf rwy eisiau i bobl ddod o'r clywed y podcastau hon
[01:09:44.480 -> 01:09:46.280] yw'r credd y gallwch chi wneud yn well, gallwch chi gwneud yn digwydd. And I think one of the biggest things that I want people to get from listening to these podcasts is this belief
[01:09:46.280 -> 01:09:49.120] that you can do better, you can make it happen.
[01:09:49.120 -> 01:09:52.600] Like immediately people's brains switch to,
[01:09:52.600 -> 01:09:56.000] well, what about people who don't have the circumstances
[01:09:56.000 -> 01:09:58.840] or excuses and things like that.
[01:09:58.840 -> 01:10:00.680] But you know, we're not saying every single person
[01:10:00.680 -> 01:10:02.840] can be a director of football or a premier league club,
[01:10:02.840 -> 01:10:07.000] but every, it is open to every person to better their life in some way. All of us, you, me, everyone listening to this, Unig rhai o'r bobl yn gallu bod yn Dyrfa Cymru neu'n Llygaid Prifysgol, ond mae'n agos i bob un i wella eu bywydau mewn ffordd.
[01:10:07.000 -> 01:10:10.000] Iawn, i gyd, i mi, i bawb sy'n clywed hyn.
[01:10:10.000 -> 01:10:15.000] Yn siŵr, a dwi'n credu bod hynny'n gallu bod yn eich partner cyffredin,
[01:10:15.000 -> 01:10:17.000] eich gynhyrch cyffredin,
[01:10:17.000 -> 01:10:20.000] efallai i'r cynghrair o ddynion news,
[01:10:20.000 -> 01:10:22.000] gallwch ei gynhyrchu cyffredinol,
[01:10:22.000 -> 01:10:24.000] y ffordd y gallwch chi fynd i'w gilydd.
[01:10:24.000 -> 01:10:28.000] A dwi'n credu mai dyna'r gwybodaeth gallu ei wneud y cyfleoedd ymlaen, y ffordd y gallwch i chi fynd i'r holl ffordd. Ac rwy'n credu mai dyna'r gwyrfa gallu gwneud yn digwydd.
[01:10:28.000 -> 01:10:30.000] Ac nid yw'r pethau sydd wedi'u ddysgu Stuart
[01:10:30.000 -> 01:10:32.000] yn gofyn am ddechrau llawer,
[01:10:32.000 -> 01:10:34.000] o'r talent,
[01:10:34.000 -> 01:10:36.000] neu'r cynghorydd.
[01:10:36.000 -> 01:10:38.000] Mae'n ymwneud â defnyddio'r hyn rydych chi'n ei gael
[01:10:38.000 -> 01:10:40.000] ac yn gwneud y mwyaf y gallwch chi gyda hynny.
[01:10:40.000 -> 01:10:44.000] Ac rwy'n credu, os oedd gennym gwrs ychydig blwyddyn yn ystod,
[01:10:44.000 -> 01:10:46.760] dwi ddim yn credu y byddwch chi'n cael person sy'n rhedeg cwbl chwaraeon
[01:10:46.760 -> 01:10:49.160] a ddweud am bwysigrwydd y gweithgaredd.
[01:10:49.160 -> 01:10:51.960] Ond pan dweud, dwi'n y cyntaf i ddweud dwi'n gwneud pwysigrwydd,
[01:10:51.960 -> 01:10:54.160] dwi'n y cyntaf i agor fy nifer o ddewis,
[01:10:54.160 -> 01:10:56.160] gallwch weld pa mor werthus hwnnw yw,
[01:10:56.160 -> 01:10:58.480] yn ddiwylliant a mewn sefydliad fel hyn.
[01:10:58.480 -> 01:11:00.280] Yn wir, yr hyn sy'n ei ddysgrifio yno
[01:11:00.280 -> 01:11:25.000] yw un ffrase y bydd rhai o bobl yn mynd i'r gwrando i hwn yn ymwybodol, mae'n ffrase o'r enw'n sylwadau'n sylwadau'n sylwadau'n sylwadau'n sylwadau'n sylwadau'n sylwadau'n sylwadau'n sylwadau'n sylwadau'n sylwad ysgrifennu yw'r ffrase sy'n ei ysgrifennu yw'r ffrase sy'n ei ysgrifennu yw'r ffrase sy'n ei ysgrifennu yw'r ffrase sy'n ei ysgrifennu yw'r ffrase sy'n ei ysgrifennu yw'r ffrase sy'n ei ysgrifennu yw'r ffrase sy'n ei ysgrifennu yw'r ffrase sy'n ei ysgrifennu yw'r ffrase sy'n ei ysgrifennu yw'r ffrase sy'n ei ysgrifennu yw'r ffrase sy'n ei ysgrifennu yw'r ffrase sy'n ei ysgrifennu yw'r ffrase sy'n ei ysgrifennu yw'r ffrase sy'n ei ysgrifennu yw'r ffrase sy'n ei ysgrifennu yw'r ffrase sy'n ei ysgrifennu yw'r ffrase sy'n ei ysgrifennu yw'r ffrase sy'n ei ysflawniadau o'r cyfnod. Ac mae'r holl gweithdai'r bwysigau
[01:11:25.000 -> 01:11:27.720] yn ymwneud â hyn yn bwysig, fel y dywedodd Stuart.
[01:11:27.720 -> 01:11:29.160] Roeddwn i'n gofyn ychydig o Jonny Wilkinson
[01:11:29.160 -> 01:11:30.800] pan dweud bod ganddyn nhw'r moment
[01:11:30.800 -> 01:11:32.480] lle roeddent yn sylwi'r bod yn cael eu gynhyrchu,
[01:11:32.480 -> 01:11:33.440] sy'n adnoddau'n fawr,
[01:11:33.440 -> 01:11:35.920] achos dydyn ni ddim yn gallu ddweud hynny'n cyhoeddus
[01:11:35.920 -> 01:11:38.200] ar y pryd, ond roedd yn sylwi'r bod yn cael eu gynhyrchu
[01:11:38.200 -> 01:11:40.200] ac yna oedd yn dweud, dwi wedi'i ddrawio gyda hynny.
[01:11:40.200 -> 01:11:43.480] Rydw i'n mynd i mwynhau'r profiad hwn.
[01:11:43.480 -> 01:11:44.720] Mae'n profiad hawr,
[01:11:44.720 -> 01:11:48.080] ond rydw i'n mynd i ddifrifio'r teimlad o'r bod yn cael ei ddifrifio
[01:11:48.080 -> 01:11:51.040] fel y byddwn i ddim yn cael ei gael yn ôl, yn unig fel y bydd Johnny yn dweud.
[01:11:51.040 -> 01:11:52.800] Gwneud ymdrech i'r ymdrech hwnnw.
[01:11:52.800 -> 01:11:54.240] Dwi'n mynd allan o'i gilydd, dwi'n mynd allan o'i gilydd,
[01:11:54.240 -> 01:11:56.640] dwi'n mynd allan o'i gilydd,
[01:11:56.640 -> 01:11:59.440] dwi'n mynd allan o'i gilydd,
[01:11:59.440 -> 01:12:01.120] gwneud ymdrech i'r ymdrech hwnnw,
[01:12:01.120 -> 01:12:02.480] gwneud ymdrech i'r ymdrech hwnnw,
[01:12:02.480 -> 01:12:04.160] gwneud ymdrech i'r ymdrech hwnnw,
[01:12:04.160 -> 01:12:07.000] a yna i'r ymdrech hwnnw, a yna i'r ymdrech hwnnw, a yna i'r ymdrechion, gweithio allan, sut y gallwch eu gwneud o'i leiaf, ac yna i'r ffras o'r cwmni, gwneud y peth yn digwydd,
[01:12:07.000 -> 01:12:09.000] rhoi'r planau i'w leiaf.
[01:12:09.000 -> 01:12:12.000] A dwi'n gwybod ei fod yn hoffi adeiladu adeiladau, fe wnaeth e ddweud hynny yn y cyfieithu, ac rydyn ni'n ymwneud â nhw nawr,
[01:12:12.000 -> 01:12:16.000] ond dwi'n credu bod yr unig egwydd o'r hyn sydd wedi'i wneud ar y club ffotbol yw pan ydych chi'n mynd drwy'r cymaint.
[01:12:16.000 -> 01:12:21.000] Dydyn ni ddim yn gallu rhoi'r ffinger arno, nid yw'n beth tangyl, ond mae'n y teimlad rydych chi'n cael ar y gynulliad hwn.
[01:12:21.000 -> 01:12:27.160] Mae'n lle i fod yn golygu, mae'n lle cymorth gwych i'w gael, dydy'n i? Iawn, ac eto, mae'n bwysig y deunyddau.
[01:12:27.160 -> 01:12:30.400] Gwnesom Toto Wolff am ei gyfnod cyntaf o Mercedes
[01:12:30.400 -> 01:12:32.960] ac y copi cofi a'r llyfrgellau gyn-gymdeithasol
[01:12:32.960 -> 01:12:36.680] o'i gilydd a dweud iddo ddweud nad oedd pobl yn meddwl am deunydd,
[01:12:36.680 -> 01:12:38.400] sydd wedi'i gynnal.
[01:12:38.400 -> 01:12:41.080] Mae'r un yma yma yng Nghaerfyrdd, o'r argyfwng cyfansoddol
[01:12:41.080 -> 01:12:44.400] o fod yn ddifrifol ac yn ddewiso pan ddodon ni yma
[01:12:44.400 -> 01:12:45.760] i bob aelod o'r staff yn cyfathrebu a gwneud cyfansoddau'r amgylchedd, oedd yn ddiddorol a chyhoeddiant pan ddodon ni i mewn i bob aelod o'r staff
[01:12:45.760 -> 01:12:47.960] yn cyfathrebu a gwneud cyfathrebu.
[01:12:47.960 -> 01:12:50.040] Dyna beth mae'r diwydiant yn ei ddilyn
[01:12:50.040 -> 01:12:51.520] ar y deunyddau mawr.
[01:12:54.760 -> 01:12:56.280] Dymu, cyn i chi a ddewch i mi
[01:12:56.280 -> 01:12:57.640] dechrau gweithio'n gilydd,
[01:12:57.640 -> 01:12:59.760] nid oeddwn i'n cael clywed am y peth
[01:12:59.760 -> 01:13:01.200] o'r sgiliau'n llai'n ffyrdd,
[01:13:01.200 -> 01:13:02.160] ond mae'n rhywbeth
[01:13:02.160 -> 01:13:03.680] y sgwyddoch chi'n ffyrdd.
[01:13:03.680 -> 01:13:06.000] Ac yn wir, ar ôl y sgwrs
[01:13:06.000 -> 01:13:08.000] gyda James Timpson ar y podcast,
[01:13:08.000 -> 01:13:10.000] mae llai o bobl wedi cael ymddangos
[01:13:10.000 -> 01:13:12.000] ac eisiau ychydig mwy o wybodaeth
[01:13:12.000 -> 01:13:14.000] am y sgiliau'n fwyaf
[01:13:14.000 -> 01:13:16.000] a'r rhai sy'n mwy o wahanol.
[01:13:16.000 -> 01:13:18.000] Beth fyddech chi'n ei ddweud i'r bobl hyn?
[01:13:18.000 -> 01:13:20.000] Mae'n cwestiwn ddiddorol.
[01:13:20.000 -> 01:13:22.000] Mae'r enw'n ychydig mwy o'r gwirionedd.
[01:13:22.000 -> 01:13:24.000] Mae'r sgiliau'n fwyaf yn golygu
[01:13:24.000 -> 01:13:25.840] bod pobl yn ei ddweud o'u gwirioned ddiddorol neu'n dda i gael,
[01:13:25.840 -> 01:13:31.000] ond mae'r dyddiad yn dweud bod sgiliau hwyr, fel gynig, ymdrech, deall,
[01:13:31.000 -> 01:13:37.000] yn gallu gwneud cysylltiad gyda phobl sy'n cynyddu i'r brif hysbysedd o weithgaredd.
[01:13:37.000 -> 01:13:42.000] Felly pan dweud wrthym gydag athrawon, dyma'r cwestiwn rydw i'n ei gofyn,
[01:13:42.000 -> 01:13:45.400] pa mor o'u gweithgaredd mwyaf yent yn ymddangos at y sgiliau hawr.
[01:13:45.400 -> 01:13:50.400] Os yw'n tîm rugby, dweud pa mor gyflym ydyn nhw neu pa mor ffyrdd ydyn nhw
[01:13:50.400 -> 01:13:57.400] ac mae ychydig ohono ar y sgiliau hawr, fel eu gallu i gyfathrebu neu cyd-dod â'u hyder neu'r hyder.
[01:13:57.400 -> 01:14:03.400] Ac nid oedd gen i gwrdd â tîm elit sy'n dweud i chi nad yw 70% o'r cyflawni'n fawr ar y sgiliau hawr.
[01:14:03.400 -> 01:14:05.400] Mae'n amlwg ddiddorol i ddweud, ond pa mor amser rydych chi'n treulio'n fwyaf o'ch amserogau fawr yw'r sgiliau hwyr. Mae'n ddiddorol dweud,
[01:14:05.400 -> 01:14:08.000] ond pa mor amser y gyrraeddwch chi'n treinio?
[01:14:08.000 -> 01:14:09.000] Ac mae'n wir,
[01:14:09.000 -> 01:14:10.000] mae'r tîmau'n cymryd
[01:14:10.000 -> 01:14:12.000] yn ychydig yn ychydig ar sgiliau hwyr.
[01:14:12.000 -> 01:14:15.000] Mae'r tîmau'n gweithio yn unig ar y rhai hyn
[01:14:15.000 -> 01:14:17.000] fel y pethau'n fwy anodd.
[01:14:17.000 -> 01:14:19.000] Oherwydd gwybod yw hynny'r lle
[01:14:19.000 -> 01:14:21.000] y mae'r magiau yn y cyflogau fawr.
[01:14:21.000 -> 01:14:23.000] Ac dyna'r hyn a ddweud James Timpson gyda ni.
[01:14:23.000 -> 01:14:28.000] Mae'r ddiddorol i'w staff ei hun yn golygu eu bod yn gallu bod yn ddiddordeb ar gyfer cwmni,
[01:14:28.000 -> 01:14:31.000] sy'n golygu eu bod yn darparu gwasanaeth o waith
[01:14:31.000 -> 01:14:34.000] ac mae'r cwmni yn dod yn ôl yn eu miliwnau.
[01:14:34.000 -> 01:14:38.000] Ac rwy'n credu bod e'n dda iawn, nid dim ond i'r busneswyr fel James Timpson
[01:14:38.000 -> 01:14:43.000] neu i rhywun fel Toto Wolfe, sy'n gyrraedd cwmni chwaraeon i siarad am sgiliau llai.
[01:14:43.000 -> 01:14:48.160] Ond rwy'n credu bod menyn yn gyffredinol yn bwysig i sgiliau llai. someone like Toto Wolff running a sports team to talk about soft skills, but I think Men in general to focus on soft skills is important. We actually had this
[01:14:48.160 -> 01:14:50.760] This is an anonymous message Damien that came on Instagram
[01:14:50.840 -> 01:14:57.360] It says hey Jake hi Damien Steve Salas and Toto Wolff and others have all mentioned soft skill qualities that make them stand out as
[01:14:57.360 -> 01:14:59.360] great leaders coaches managers
[01:14:59.400 -> 01:15:02.720] That's what makes the difference between the good and the great as a football coach
[01:15:02.720 -> 01:15:06.040] I believe that to player focused focused, know the individual,
[01:15:06.040 -> 01:15:07.880] then you know how to get the best out of them.
[01:15:07.880 -> 01:15:09.080] And that's what I'm good at.
[01:15:09.080 -> 01:15:10.840] After 20 years coaching,
[01:15:10.840 -> 01:15:12.900] the evidence is there to help me finally stop
[01:15:12.900 -> 01:15:16.320] the imposter syndrome as a female in football.
[01:15:16.320 -> 01:15:17.520] But yet recently when applying
[01:15:17.520 -> 01:15:20.320] for professional football jobs in England, that's my goal,
[01:15:20.320 -> 01:15:23.140] I always get to the final two or three, which is great.
[01:15:23.140 -> 01:15:24.800] I always ask for feedback to learn from
[01:15:24.800 -> 01:15:27.560] and they highlight my player first attitude to coaching,
[01:15:27.560 -> 01:15:29.000] complimenting my soft skills,
[01:15:29.000 -> 01:15:32.160] but suggest that would lend itself more to a mentor role
[01:15:32.160 -> 01:15:33.880] within a club rather than a coach.
[01:15:33.880 -> 01:15:35.940] So my question after that long message, they say,
[01:15:35.940 -> 01:15:40.080] is are those skills seen differently if coming from a man?
[01:15:40.080 -> 01:15:41.520] I'm just curious.
[01:15:41.520 -> 01:15:43.160] Please tell me if you completely disagree.
[01:15:43.160 -> 01:15:46.680] It may be that I need to adjust my approach to get a foot in the door. And that's something that I haven't really considered it. Dwi'n cwrios, dweud wrthi os ydych chi'n ymdrech i'r cyfansoddiad, efallai y mae angen i mi gyrraedd fy nhydd i gael fy nghyd-dŵr.
[01:15:46.680 -> 01:15:48.840] Ac dyna'r peth dydw i ddim wedi'i ystyried.
[01:15:48.840 -> 01:15:53.600] Dwi'n siarad am rhywbeth sy'n ffordd da i weithredu ar y podcast hon.
[01:15:53.600 -> 01:15:55.480] Efallai y mae angen i ni hefyd ymdrech
[01:15:55.480 -> 01:15:59.840] a yw a yw pobl yn cyfathrebu'r nhydd hwnnw'n wahanol o dyn neu dyn.
[01:15:59.840 -> 01:16:01.840] Ie, mae'n cwestiwn ffasifol.
[01:16:01.840 -> 01:16:03.240] Dwi'n credu, fel y dweud,
[01:16:03.240 -> 01:16:06.000] dwi'n credu mae'n dod yn ôl i'r iaith rydyn ni'n ei ddefnyddio.
[01:16:06.000 -> 01:16:08.000] Rydyn ni'n siarad am sgiliau llwyr.
[01:16:08.000 -> 01:16:14.000] Ac i lawer o dynion, gallent fod yn teimlo'n anodd gyda'r syniad o gysylltu,
[01:16:14.000 -> 01:16:18.000] neu o fod yn anodd, neu o ddangos eu syniadau,
[01:16:18.000 -> 01:16:21.000] oherwydd rydyn ni wedi cael ei ystyried i credu mai dyna'r ddiddordeb,
[01:16:21.000 -> 01:16:23.000] yn hytrach na'r ddiddordeb o'r sgiliau.
[01:16:23.000 -> 01:16:25.160] Rwy'n credu rydw i wedi dweud hynny i chi cyn i ti, Jake.
[01:16:25.160 -> 01:16:28.080] Dwi'n defnyddio barometer ar gyfer
[01:16:28.080 -> 01:16:30.120] tîmau, yn enwedig tîmau mewnwyr,
[01:16:30.120 -> 01:16:32.640] pan ddweud ymdrech i banter.
[01:16:32.640 -> 01:16:34.960] Dwi'n dweud ymdrech i banter yn aml
[01:16:34.960 -> 01:16:36.680] ar gyfer y ddickhead.
[01:16:36.680 -> 01:16:39.440] Mae'r bobl sy'n ddod yn ddiddorol neu'n ddiddorol
[01:16:39.440 -> 01:16:41.680] ac yna yw'n ymdrech i'w ddweud fel humaur,
[01:16:41.680 -> 01:16:44.240] yn hytrach na'r hyn y maen nhw'n ceisio ei wneud,
[01:16:44.240 -> 01:16:44.880] yw ddweud yw, dweud yw,
[01:16:44.880 -> 01:17:06.440] dweud yw, humaur yw wahanol, humaur yw gysylltiadol. mae'r fath o'i ddod yn ffyrdd o'i ddod yn ffyrdd o'i ddod yn ffyrdd o'i ddod yn ffyrdd o'i ddod yn ffyrdd o'i ddod yn ffyrdd o'i ddod yn ffyrdd o'i ddod yn ffyrdd o'i ddod yn ffyrdd o'i ddod yn ffyrdd o'i ddod yn ffyrdd o'i ddod yn ffyrdd o'i ddod yn ffyrdd o'i ddod yn ffyrdd o'i ddod yn ffyrdd o'i ddod in ffyrdd o'i ddod in ffyrdd o'i ddod in ffyrdd o'i ddod in ffyrdd o'i ddod in ffyrdd o'i ddod in ffyrdd o'i ddod in ffyrdd o'i ddod in ffyrdd o'i ddod in ffyrdd o'i ddod in ffyrdd o'i ddod in ffyrdd o'i ddod in ffyrdd o'i ddod in ffyrdd o'i ddod in ffyrdd o'i ddod in ffyrdd o'i ddod in ffyrdd o'i ddod in ffyrdd o'i ddod in ffyrdd o'i ddod in ffyrdd o'i ddod in ffyrdd o'i ddod in ffyrdd o'i ddod in ffyrdd o'i ddod in ffyrdd o'i ddod in ffyrdd o'i ddod in f and show how you really feel about somebody or something. I also wonder whether that message,
[01:17:06.440 -> 01:17:08.760] and it was anonymous, we don't know who it's from,
[01:17:08.760 -> 01:17:11.440] but I would suggest if we do know who it's from,
[01:17:11.440 -> 01:17:12.760] then we'd recognise the name,
[01:17:12.760 -> 01:17:15.760] because they're talking about a 20-year coaching career
[01:17:15.760 -> 01:17:17.280] as a female, and they're getting down
[01:17:17.280 -> 01:17:20.480] to the final two or three in professional football jobs.
[01:17:20.480 -> 01:17:22.280] So, you know, we're talking about
[01:17:22.280 -> 01:17:24.840] a proper professional football coach here.
[01:17:24.840 -> 01:17:33.200] I wonder whether this comes down to football being sexist. Almost like you see a female come
[01:17:33.200 -> 01:17:38.800] in and apply for a job and you see them being brilliant with the soft skills and really relating
[01:17:38.800 -> 01:17:44.320] to players on a level and you go, great, well, of course they can do that because they're female.
[01:17:44.320 -> 01:17:46.640] Whereas when a man comes in and does the same thing, you go, oh, well, of course they can do that because they're female. Whereas when a man comes in and does the same thing,
[01:17:46.640 -> 01:17:48.000] you go, oh, it's great they can do that
[01:17:48.000 -> 01:17:50.480] because we know they can also coach and be tough
[01:17:50.480 -> 01:17:52.100] and be hard because they're a bloke.
[01:17:52.100 -> 01:17:54.560] And I wonder whether this anonymous person
[01:17:54.560 -> 01:17:57.960] is applying for jobs at places where they are still assuming
[01:17:57.960 -> 01:17:59.600] because that person's a female,
[01:17:59.600 -> 01:18:02.200] they can't do the hard skills.
[01:18:02.200 -> 01:18:03.680] They can only do the soft skills.
[01:18:03.680 -> 01:18:04.760] Do you know what I mean by that?
[01:18:04.760 -> 01:18:07.080] I wonder whether they're just basically
[01:18:07.080 -> 01:18:09.440] what they're encountering is actually just sexism.
[01:18:09.440 -> 01:18:13.040] Very possibly, again, it's a really easy mindset
[01:18:13.040 -> 01:18:15.520] that people can fall into that what we do
[01:18:15.520 -> 01:18:17.120] is we dehumanize people.
[01:18:17.120 -> 01:18:19.520] So therefore when we dehumanize, we can delete,
[01:18:19.520 -> 01:18:22.480] distort or dismiss their messages or they can't do that.
[01:18:22.480 -> 01:18:24.400] That's not what I heard them say.
[01:18:24.400 -> 01:18:26.840] And again, it's about education. neu'n ymdrech ar eu sylwadau, neu nad ydynt yn gallu gwneud hynny. Dyna ddim yr hyn rydw i wedi clywed iddyn nhw ddweud. Ac eto, mae'n ymwneud â ddysgu.
[01:18:26.840 -> 01:18:28.560] Mae'n ymwneud â, fel unigolion,
[01:18:28.560 -> 01:18:31.480] y byddwn i'n rhaid i ni fynd i'n ffyrdd ychydig mwy.
[01:18:31.480 -> 01:18:33.120] Y cyfrifoldeb rydw i wedi'i ddefnyddio
[01:18:33.120 -> 01:18:34.880] pan roeddem wedi siarad cyn ymlaen am hyn, Jake,
[01:18:34.880 -> 01:18:37.360] yw bod, mae'n ffaith, y ffyrdd y mae'r dyn sy'n mynd ar y cyfnod
[01:18:37.360 -> 01:18:40.080] i le o le i ddim ddweud Ynghyr yn iaith gwahanol,
[01:18:40.080 -> 01:18:42.680] ac yna, yw'n chiwtio ar staff y bar yn Inghyr.
[01:18:42.680 -> 01:18:43.800] Ac pan nad ydyn nhw'n deall,
[01:18:43.800 -> 01:18:46.720] dyna'n mynd i fod yn fwy fwn a'n siarad yn hirach.
[01:18:46.720 -> 01:18:48.000] Dydych chi ddim yn dod yn fwy cywir,
[01:18:48.000 -> 01:18:49.920] dydych chi'n dod yn fwy anhygoel
[01:18:49.920 -> 01:18:50.720] yn y broses.
[01:18:50.720 -> 01:18:51.680] Ac rwy'n credu,
[01:18:51.680 -> 01:18:52.840] ar gyfer llawer o bobl,
[01:18:52.840 -> 01:18:53.440] dyna'r ffordd
[01:18:53.440 -> 01:18:55.280] y mae eu meddwl yn ymwneud â hynny,
[01:18:55.280 -> 01:18:57.040] nad ydynt yn ymwneud ag
[01:18:57.040 -> 01:18:57.760] efallai i ddweud,
[01:18:57.760 -> 01:18:58.560] efallai yw fi,
[01:18:58.560 -> 01:19:00.280] efallai dylen i ddewis fy myned
[01:19:00.280 -> 01:19:01.400] a dysgu yn wahanol.
[01:19:01.400 -> 01:19:02.880] Mae'n hwyr i ddweud
[01:19:02.880 -> 01:19:03.760] yn y ffras o
[01:19:03.760 -> 01:19:04.800] ymwneud â'r llun,
[01:19:04.800 -> 01:19:06.840] yn wneud yr un peth ar gael ar gyfer y troun, a'i wneud yn yr un peth ar gyfer y llun,
[01:19:06.840 -> 01:19:08.200] yn gobeithio cymorth gwahanol.
[01:19:08.200 -> 01:19:10.160] Felly, pwy sydd wedi'i gysylltu â'r adroddiad,
[01:19:10.160 -> 01:19:11.560] rwy'n credu y mae angen i ni ddeall,
[01:19:11.560 -> 01:19:14.040] mae'n cymryd gored, mae'n cymryd addysg,
[01:19:14.040 -> 01:19:15.800] ac mae'n allu cymryd unig un o bobl
[01:19:15.800 -> 01:19:17.000] sy'n barod i ddechrau i ddechrau
[01:19:17.000 -> 01:19:18.520] a rhoi cyfle i chi
[01:19:18.520 -> 01:19:19.960] i ddod â'r cyfle
[01:19:19.960 -> 01:19:21.640] i ddechrau i ddewis mewniadau.
[01:19:21.640 -> 01:19:23.200] Ac rwy'n credu bod yn ymdrech
[01:19:23.200 -> 01:19:24.160] fod y bobl hwn yn teimlo
[01:19:24.160 -> 01:19:25.400] y mae angen iddo ddiogel eu adroddiad y gallwn i'w adroddiad i gael fy nghyfnod yn y ddwr. A dwi'n credu bod yn ymdrech i'r person hwn y gafodd ei gynllunio'r gwybodaeth gyda'i gwrthdro
[01:19:25.400 -> 01:19:26.840] a oedd angen i mi gyrraedd fy nhyrch
[01:19:26.840 -> 01:19:27.840] i gael fy nghyd i'r ddewis.
[01:19:27.840 -> 01:19:29.320] Dwi ddim yn credu bod hynny'n ymdrech.
[01:19:29.320 -> 01:19:31.560] Dwi'n credu bod yr hyn sy'n angen cael ei gyrraedd
[01:19:31.560 -> 01:19:35.360] yn ymwneud â'r sylwadau o fwynion
[01:19:35.360 -> 01:19:36.360] yng nghyffordd.
[01:19:36.360 -> 01:19:37.560] Dwi'n credu bod y person hwn yn angen
[01:19:37.560 -> 01:19:39.480] i'w gweithio'n gynnar,
[01:19:39.480 -> 01:19:41.360] i fod yn unigol, o'n iawn?
[01:19:41.360 -> 01:19:42.080] Yn siŵr,
[01:19:42.080 -> 01:19:43.560] ond mae pob newid yn digwydd
[01:19:43.560 -> 01:19:44.560] mewn tri ffyrdd.
[01:19:44.560 -> 01:20:05.000] Mae pobl yn gwrthdro arno, yna maen nhw'n eu cy ei ddiddordeb a dweud i chi pam nad yw'n gall, gweld hyn fel sylw ar gyfer cymdeithas,
[01:20:05.000 -> 01:20:10.000] bod pobl wedi dechrau laffio ac rydym yn arfer i ddweud hynny i bobl.
[01:20:10.000 -> 01:20:15.000] Mae cyfeillgarau da i'w gwneud, fel Sharm Massie,
[01:20:15.000 -> 01:20:18.000] y ddewis sydd wedi mynd i'r ymgyrch, sydd yn cyflog.
[01:20:18.000 -> 01:20:22.000] Yn ystod y ffyrdd o Karen Brady, y cyfarwyddwr cyfansoddol yn y clwb chwaraeon,
[01:20:22.000 -> 01:20:46.720] ac rwy'n siŵr ei fod yn ddau o'r rhai eraill, ac rwy'n siŵr ei fod yn ddau o'r rhai eraill, ac rwy'n siŵr ei fod yn ddau o'r rhai eral, ac rwy'n siŵr ei bod yn ddiddorol. Ac rwy'n siŵr ei fod yn ddiddorol yn y clwb ffotbol. Ac rwy'n siŵr ei bod yn ddiddorol yn y clwb ffotbol. Ac rwy'n siŵr ei bod yn ddiddorol yn y clwb ffotbol. Ac rwy'n siŵr ei bod yn ddiddorol yn y clwb ffotbol. Ac rwy'n siŵr ei bod innau'n ddiddorol yn y clwb ffotbol. Ac rwy'n siŵr ei bod innai'n ddiddorol yn y clwb ffotbol. Ac rwy'n siŵr ei bod innai'n ddiddorol yn y clwb ffotbol. Ac rwy'n siŵr ei bod innai'n ddiddorol innau'n ddiddorol innau'n ddiddorol innau'n ddiddorol innau'n ddiddorol innau'n ddiddorol innau'n ddiddorol innai'n ddiddorol innai'n ddiddorol innai'n ddiddorol innai'n ddiddorol innai'n ddiddorol innai'n ddiddorol innai'n ddiddorol innai'n ddiddorol innai'n ddiddorol innai'n d Damien, thank you so much, mate. Loved it, mate, as always. Thank you, thanks for having me along. Before we go, just a quick thanks.
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[01:20:49.200 -> 01:20:50.040] for their hard work.
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