E36 - Series Three Roundup with Jake and Damian

Jake and Damian reflect on the key takeaways from the incredible guests from Series Three, including Sir Clive Woodward, Steven Gerrard, Siya Kolisi, Steph Houghton, Matthew McConaughey, Kelly Jones and many more.

This series wrap up we’re basing around the five stages of successful change: 1.      Dream 2.      Leap 3.      Fight 4.      Climb 5.      Arrive

Jake and Damian talk through these stages and both pick out their favourite clips. Thank you for all your comments and reviews this series, we really appreciate it. And thank you to Lotus Cars our sponsor for their continued support.

Remember, you can get extended episodes of the podcast on our YouTube channel bit.ly/HPPYouTube and follow us on Instagram @highperformance.

We will be back very soon with more elite high-performance guests for Series 4!

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Sure, here is a summary of the podcast episode transcript, organized into sections based on the five stages of successful change:

**Dream:**

* The first stage of successful change is having a dream or a goal that you want to achieve.
* It's important to be specific and clear about your dream, and to believe that it is possible to achieve it.
* Don't be afraid to dream big, and don't let negative thoughts or self-doubt hold you back.

**Leap:**

* Once you have a dream, you need to take a leap of faith and start working towards it.
* This means taking action and putting yourself out there, even if you're afraid or uncertain.
* It's important to be all in and committed to your goal, and to be willing to sacrifice and work hard to achieve it.

**Fight:**

* The fight stage is where you face challenges and obstacles on your journey to achieving your dream.
* It's important to be prepared for these challenges and to have a plan for how you will overcome them.
* Don't give up when things get tough, and remember that failure is a part of the process.

**Climb:**

* The climb stage is where you start to see progress and make headway towards your goal.
* This is a time to celebrate your successes and to keep moving forward.
* It's important to stay focused and motivated, and to not get complacent.

**Arrive:**

* The arrive stage is when you finally achieve your dream or goal.
* This is a time to celebrate your accomplishment and to reflect on the journey that you have taken.
* It's also a time to set new goals and to continue to grow and develop.

**Additional Points:**

* The podcast hosts emphasize the importance of having a strong support system of friends, family, and mentors who can help you on your journey.
* They also discuss the importance of being adaptable and flexible, and being willing to change course if necessary.
* The podcast hosts encourage listeners to take action and to start working towards their dreams, no matter how big or small.

**Overall Message:**

The overall message of the podcast is that anyone can achieve their dreams if they are willing to work hard, stay committed, and never give up. The five stages of successful change provide a roadmap for listeners to follow on their own journey to high performance.

# High Performance Podcast: A Comprehensive Summary

## Introduction

- The podcast reflects on key takeaways from Season Three's esteemed guests, including Sir Clive Woodward, Steven Gerrard, Siya Kolisi, Steph Houghton, Matthew McConaughey, Kelly Jones, and more.
- The discussion revolves around the five stages of successful change: Dream, Leap, Fight, Climb, and Arrive.

## The Five Stages of Successful Change

### 1. Dream

- Dreaming is the starting point of any successful journey.
- It involves envisioning what you want to achieve and setting ambitious goals.
- It's essential to have a clear and compelling dream to motivate you through the challenges ahead.

### 2. Leap

- The leap is the moment when you take action and commit to pursuing your dream.
- It can be a daunting step, but it's necessary to move forward.
- Be prepared to face obstacles and setbacks along the way, but don't let them deter you from your goal.

### 3. Fight

- The fight stage is where you encounter challenges and obstacles that test your resolve.
- It's a time of struggle and perseverance.
- Embrace the fight and see it as an opportunity to learn and grow.
- Don't make excuses or give up; instead, stay committed and keep pushing forward.

### 4. Climb

- The climb stage is about making progress and overcoming obstacles.
- It's a gradual process that requires patience and persistence.
- Celebrate your successes along the way, but stay focused on your ultimate goal.
- Surround yourself with supportive people who believe in you and your dream.

### 5. Arrive

- The arrive stage is when you achieve your dream.
- It's a time of celebration and accomplishment.
- Take a moment to reflect on your journey and appreciate how far you've come.
- Remember that success is not a destination but a continuous journey.

## Key Insights from the Podcast

- **Embrace Failure:** Failure is not the opposite of success; it's the journey to getting there.
- **Avoid Excuses:** Take responsibility for your actions and learn from your mistakes.
- **Surround Yourself with Positive People:** Surround yourself with people who support your dream and believe in you.
- **Create Team Ship Rules:** Establish clear standards and expectations for your team to foster a positive culture.
- **Celebrate Success:** Take moments to celebrate your successes along the way.
- **There is No Yet:** Success is a continuous journey; there is always room for growth and improvement.

## Conclusion

The High Performance Podcast provides valuable insights and inspiration for anyone pursuing success in their personal and professional lives. By embracing the five stages of successful change, you can overcome challenges, achieve your goals, and live a fulfilling life.

# High Performance Podcast Series 3 Wrap Up

## Overview

The podcast's hosts, Jake Humphrey and Damian Hughes, reflect on the key lessons learned from inspiring guests featured in Series 3. They discuss the "five stages of successful change" as a framework for understanding and achieving high performance.

## The Five Stages of Successful Change

1. **Dream:** Envisioning a desired future state and setting ambitious goals.
2. **Leap:** Taking calculated risks and stepping outside of one's comfort zone to pursue the dream.
3. **Fight:** Overcoming challenges and obstacles that arise along the way, showing resilience and determination.
4. **Climb:** Continuously learning, adapting, and improving, striving for excellence and pushing boundaries.
5. **Arrive:** Achieving the desired outcome or goal, celebrating success, and reflecting on the journey.

## Favorite Clips and Insights

Jake and Damian share their favorite clips from the series, highlighting particularly insightful or inspiring moments from their guests. They emphasize the importance of surrounding oneself with positive and supportive people, embracing challenges as opportunities for growth, and maintaining a relentless pursuit of improvement.

## Guest Perspectives

The podcast featured a diverse range of high-profile guests, including Sir Clive Woodward, Steven Gerrard, Siya Kolisi, Steph Houghton, Matthew McConaughey, Kelly Jones, and many others. Each guest shared their unique perspectives on high performance, offering valuable insights into the mindset, habits, and strategies that have contributed to their success.

## Conclusion

The hosts express their gratitude to the guests, listeners, and sponsors for their support and engagement throughout Series 3. They encourage listeners to continue living and chasing a high-performance life, promising to return with more inspiring interviews in Series 4 in February 2021.

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[02:38.080 -> 02:46.000] hey everyone welcome along to the wrap-up episode for series 3 of the High Performance Podcast.
[02:46.000 -> 02:50.000] These are always good fun actually, Damien and myself, we just sit, we chat, we reminisce.
[02:50.000 -> 02:57.000] Because I think it's really important you understand that as much as these podcasts are us helping you go on a high performance journey,
[02:57.000 -> 02:59.000] it's exactly the same for us as well.
[02:59.000 -> 03:05.280] And today Damien's come up with a really nice idea that we're going to look at five stages of successful change.
[03:05.280 -> 03:08.660] Dream, leap, fight, climb, and arrive.
[03:08.660 -> 03:11.760] So welcome to the series three wrap up
[03:11.760 -> 03:13.400] of the High Performance Podcast.
[03:14.440 -> 03:17.800] Well, here we are then, the final episode of series three.
[03:17.800 -> 03:20.200] It's amazing to think we've got here so quickly.
[03:20.200 -> 03:21.040] Hi, Damien.
[03:21.040 -> 03:21.960] Hi, Jake.
[03:21.960 -> 03:24.400] Yeah, I was thinking that a lot of people get in touch
[03:24.400 -> 03:25.600] with me and talk about
[03:25.600 -> 03:30.880] how do they make changes in their own lives and how long is it likely to take and I was thinking
[03:31.680 -> 03:37.680] that if we introduce them to the work of Joseph Campbell, he's one of my heroes. Joseph Campbell
[03:37.680 -> 03:44.080] is a sociologist and at the start of the 20th century he spent 20-30 years traveling the most
[03:44.080 -> 03:46.480] diverse cultures on the planet asking
[03:46.480 -> 03:51.440] what do we have in common and what he found is one of the common traits of all human beings is
[03:51.440 -> 03:57.200] how we deal with change and he identified five stages from it. Now people that might be interested
[03:57.200 -> 04:01.760] in Joseph Campbell's work he wrote a famous book called the hero with a thousand faces
[04:01.760 -> 04:06.480] you might want to explore that but if you want an easier guide to it one of Joseph Campbell's hir oedd 1000 o ffyrdd. Efallai y byddwch am ymdrechu hwnnw, ond os ydych chi eisiau gyrfa fwy fawr i'w gael, un o'r
[04:06.480 -> 04:12.160] myfyrwyr mwyaf arbennig o Joseph Campbell oedd George Lucas, felly unrhyw un sydd wedi gweld unrhyw ffilmiau Star Wars
[04:12.160 -> 04:18.160] bydd yn gwybod beth yw'r cini stage hefyd. Ac mae'r cini stage hyn yn, rydym ni'n mynd i'r stage o'r dwim,
[04:19.120 -> 04:24.320] yna ydyn ni'n mynd i'r stage o'r le, lle mae angen i ni wneud cymryd gwrthdaro a mynd allan ar ein hirbydd,
[04:24.320 -> 04:25.120] yna ydyn ni'n mynd i'r stage o'r ffyr rhaid i ni wneud ymdrech a mynd allan ar ein hwylo, yna ddod i'r etaf
[04:25.120 -> 04:31.280] ffyrdd o'r ddifficiolion rydyn ni'n profi, ac yna dechreuom i weld Cydsorfod yn dod i'r ffyrdd,
[04:31.280 -> 04:36.320] ac yna yn ddiweddar, dod i'r rhan o'r arrival lle rydyn ni'n cyrraedd ein cyfnodau,
[04:36.320 -> 04:41.360] ac roeddwn i'n meddwl y byddai os ddefnyddwyd y ffeithiau hyn, byddai'n ddangosfeydd iawn i
[04:41.360 -> 04:46.560] unrhyw un sy'n clywed heddiw i gael ei llwybru lle ydyn nhw ar y hwylo o gwneud newid yn digwydd yn eu bywydau eu hunain ar eu hwylo i'r cyfrifoldeb. handy guide for anyone listening today to be able to plot where they are on the journey of making change happen
[04:46.560 -> 04:49.840] in their own lives, on their own journey to high performance.
[04:49.840 -> 04:50.680] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[04:50.680 -> 04:51.680] It's a really nice idea actually,
[04:51.680 -> 04:54.680] because a lot of the things that people tell us
[04:54.680 -> 04:57.820] are that before listening to the podcast,
[04:57.820 -> 04:59.780] they weren't even doing the things that they're doing now,
[04:59.780 -> 05:01.560] or they've wanted to do something all their lives
[05:01.560 -> 05:03.580] and it's listening to this podcast that then means
[05:03.580 -> 05:05.460] they suddenly make a decision,
[05:05.460 -> 05:07.120] take a leap, make a change.
[05:07.120 -> 05:09.400] So I think it's a really sort of vital tool for people
[05:09.400 -> 05:12.060] to think, well, okay, I did that change a few weeks ago
[05:12.060 -> 05:14.440] or a few months ago, where do I sit now?
[05:14.440 -> 05:15.280] Yeah, that's great.
[05:15.280 -> 05:17.840] Yeah, I think it's like almost having a sat nav
[05:17.840 -> 05:19.200] or a map of your journey.
[05:19.200 -> 05:20.920] And I think that's often quite helpful
[05:20.920 -> 05:23.160] that when you can orientate yourself and understand,
[05:23.160 -> 05:25.440] well, where am I on this stage?
[05:25.440 -> 05:27.720] If we say like when we meet the fight stage,
[05:27.720 -> 05:30.060] rather than then see it as a sign
[05:30.060 -> 05:31.880] that we're on the wrong path, if you can recognize,
[05:31.880 -> 05:33.440] well, actually it's a sign that I'm moving
[05:33.440 -> 05:34.540] in the right direction,
[05:34.540 -> 05:37.520] because these obstacles are part of the journey
[05:37.520 -> 05:40.620] rather than something to be avoided or feared.
[05:40.620 -> 05:44.440] It can keep your morale high at times when it's being tested.
[05:44.440 -> 05:49.900] Right, well, let's crack on with it. Then I'm looking forward to this as always I mentioned for Lotus cars
[05:50.000 -> 05:54.640] I'm sure those of you that have listened to the podcast in series one know that Lotus were there at the very beginning
[05:54.800 -> 06:00.120] They're our founding partner and we are so proud that for the past three series. They've been alongside us
[06:00.120 -> 06:04.600] You can find them on social media at Lotus cars. They are the epitome of high-performance
[06:05.160 -> 06:08.180] Their cars are incredible. The people there are amazing
[06:08.180 -> 06:14.160] So everyone at Lotus cars and I know that lots of you at the factory in Heffel just outside Norwich down the road from my
[06:14.160 -> 06:19.740] House are listening to the podcast. So we're so thankful and grateful that you decided to be part of our journey
[06:20.000 -> 06:26.340] Well, let's start then on the dream stage and we're going to start with a clip from the first ever black springbok captain
[06:26.520 -> 06:29.520] Sio Colisi now before we hear the clip Damien
[06:29.520 -> 06:34.180] I did make a brief mention this on the episode where we heard from him, but let's just delve a bit deeper
[06:34.260 -> 06:39.900] You were relentless. We talk about relentlessness on the podcast. You were relentless at trying to get Sio Colisi for this pod
[06:39.900 -> 06:43.080] So well done. Yeah, no, thank you. I was really chuffed when we got him
[06:43.080 -> 06:45.040] I know that I um i've got a
[06:45.040 -> 06:51.680] friend uh called tom that works at the stormers uh out in cape town and uh tom had frequently told
[06:51.680 -> 06:58.160] me just about how powerful sia was as a cultural architect at the at the club in terms of just how
[06:58.160 -> 07:07.520] kind he was how decent and what like a real rare quality that you might associate with um with a ac fel gwirionedd, y gwirionedd gwahanol y gallwch chi'n ymwneud â'r gwaith o'r dyn fel Sia
[07:07.520 -> 07:13.360] oedd y ffaith bod Tom wedi dweud i mi fod yn y gwaith mwyaf o'r byd. Ac rwy'n meddwl bob amser bod
[07:13.360 -> 07:18.400] gwirionedd gwahanol gwirionedd y dyn hwn yw sut maen nhw'n ymdrechu pobl sy'n ddim yn gallu gwneud unrhyw beth amdanyn nhw.
[07:18.400 -> 07:22.960] Mae'n un o'r gwirioneddau gynharach ac roedd Tom wedi dweud i mi fod yn anhygoel iawn,
[07:22.960 -> 07:26.960] hefyd os oedd yn siarad â'r ddweithwyr, neu oherwydd roedd yn siarad gyda'r Prif Weinidog o Gymru,
[07:27.680 -> 07:30.560] sefydliadwyr, roedd yn unig unig y ddwywyddiant.
[07:30.560 -> 07:34.160] Felly roeddwn i'n ddiddorol iawn i'w gael, nid unig oherwydd mae ganddo stori anhygoel,
[07:34.160 -> 07:39.120] ond rwy'n meddwl ei gwerthoedd a'i gweithgynhyrchion byddai ganddo rhywbeth i ni.
[07:39.120 -> 07:41.600] Felly roeddwn i'n ddiddorol iawn o fod Tom a Kelly,
[07:41.600 -> 07:46.400] ei rheolwr, yn ddangos i ni, yn ymgyrchu i sefydliadwyr ddod i mewn a'i wneud. Ac rwy'n credu bod y gwerthoedd hynny'n dod drwyddo. delighted that Tom and Kelly, his manager, were so helpful to us in arranging for Sia to come and do it.
[07:46.400 -> 07:50.400] And I think those values shone through. I remember we recorded, it was a Sunday afternoon, wasn't it,
[07:50.400 -> 07:54.480] UK time, about three in the afternoon or something, I think I'd just wrapped up some roast beef in the
[07:54.480 -> 07:59.600] kitchen with the kids. That had been sent down to the stomach and then it was in here to do this.
[07:59.600 -> 08:04.000] And you know, sometimes when you speak to these high achieving individuals, they often come from
[08:04.000 -> 08:06.100] a place of, right, I don't think you're going to be very good.
[08:06.100 -> 08:08.500] I'm going to judge you straight away and then you have to prove me wrong.
[08:08.500 -> 08:10.000] He wasn't like that.
[08:10.000 -> 08:12.000] It felt like, you know, he sat down, didn't he?
[08:12.000 -> 08:12.900] He was in his living room.
[08:12.900 -> 08:14.200] He got his computer going.
[08:14.200 -> 08:16.000] Obviously, we had a few sound issues.
[08:16.000 -> 08:20.800] His kids were coming in and out, but he just, he just sort of exuded warmth.
[08:20.800 -> 08:24.600] And I felt really comfortable, really quickly, talking to a World Cup
[08:24.600 -> 08:25.680] winning rugby captain. And those people can be imposing at times, but I didn't sense that at all from him. diddordeb, ac rwy'n teimlo'n dda iawn yn hyfryd, yn dda iawn, yn siarad â'r captain o rygbi a chwarae y Cwp Ysbyty y Byd,
[08:25.680 -> 08:29.440] ac y gallai'r bobl hynny fod yn ymddangos ar amserau, ond dydw i ddim yn teimlo hynny at all oddi.
[08:29.440 -> 08:34.800] Nid, yn siŵr. Ac eto, ymlaen, coda da i'r diwedd ar ein cyfres a oedd, pan ddod o'r
[08:35.600 -> 08:40.800] wythnos diwethaf, roedd gen i'r adroddiad hir yn dda iawn, gan ddweud, diolch am ei gael ar.
[08:40.800 -> 08:49.040] Aeth y cyfres a oedd wedi'i gael yn y mwyaf bwysig y mae wedi'i gael arno. Roedd yn dweud bod y cyfleoedd roedd wedi'u cael wedi bod yn y fwyaf sydd wedi'i gael ar gyfer ymchwil. Ac eto, rwy'n credu ei fod yn siarad o fanylion
[08:49.040 -> 08:53.440] i ni fod yn dod yn ôl a ddweud diolch i ni am rhoi
[08:53.440 -> 08:57.280] ei lwybr i rannu ei stori, sy'n unigol yn cyd-drefn
[08:57.280 -> 09:00.480] gyda'r gofyn y mae gennych chi a rydw i wedi'i teimlo hefyd
[09:00.480 -> 09:02.960] pan ysgafnaws gyda ni. Wel, gadewch i ni wneud hynny yna. Gadewch i ni ddechrau
[09:02.960 -> 09:07.000] ein phasau ffyrdd o newid cyflogol. Ac rydyn ni'n mynd i ddechrau gyda'r felt as well when we sat down with him. Well let's do it then let's start our five stages of successful change and we're going to start with the dream
[09:07.000 -> 09:13.040] stage as Damien's already explained and this is a clip from Sia Kulisi in that
[09:13.040 -> 09:16.840] dream stage having those big dreams.
[09:16.960 -> 09:22.260] Just have a dream believe in it and work as hard as you can. Don't let family
[09:22.260 -> 09:27.080] members or anybody who couldn't achieve their dreams or live their dreams
[09:27.080 -> 09:28.720] tell you that you can't make it.
[09:28.720 -> 09:31.240] You, you, you're the only person that can fight
[09:31.240 -> 09:32.160] and believe in your dream
[09:32.160 -> 09:34.960] and nobody will believe in your dream more than you do.
[09:34.960 -> 09:36.560] You just gotta be willing to fight, man,
[09:36.560 -> 09:39.600] with everything you can to make whatever it is
[09:39.600 -> 09:40.960] that you wanna be.
[09:40.960 -> 09:43.360] See, Damien, I think this is absolutely
[09:43.360 -> 09:55.000] the crux of everything. For a start, right, if you haven't got the dream, the next four stages are never going to follow. The journey is never going to come because you have got to have the dream about where you want that journey to take you.
[09:55.000 -> 10:06.080] I think the other really crucial thing from my perspective for anyone listening to this is that there's absolutely no benefit to thinking that your dream is not going to happen, that you're never going to get to where you want to go.
[10:06.080 -> 10:10.960] Like, of course it might not happen, but thinking you will get there
[10:10.960 -> 10:13.360] gives you so much more power than thinking that you won't.
[10:13.360 -> 10:16.560] And that's almost like the first thing that I feel people have to understand
[10:16.560 -> 10:21.280] in the dream stage is don't be ashamed or shy of having that dream.
[10:21.280 -> 10:25.340] Absolutely, because the emotion that when you're tied into a
[10:25.340 -> 10:29.780] dream that comes with that powerful emotion of why you want it and and it's
[10:29.780 -> 10:32.920] basically going back and asking that question well why do I want this and it
[10:32.920 -> 10:38.480] might be I want to give a better life for my family I want to have the the
[10:38.480 -> 10:46.480] freedom of having choices or I want to experience all these things these are neu dwi ddim yn gwybod pob math o bethau hynny, mae'r holl emociau gwahanol iawn sy'n dechrau
[10:47.680 -> 10:53.360] yn ymgyrchu ni i mewn. Dw i'n credu'n aml yn y byd y mae'r clip Cyrraedd yn fy ymgysylltu gyda'r cyfran o'r
[10:53.360 -> 10:58.720] Stone Roses, rwy'n credu bod Ian Brown, y man i'r ddewis, wedi dweud, dwi'n gwybod, nid ydych chi o le,
[10:58.720 -> 11:06.500] mae'n lle rydych chi ar y gwir, ac rwy'n hoffi'r syniad hwnnw, dwi'n gwybod, mae'r fyny sy'n dod o really counts. And I like that idea that, you know, a guy that came from such crushing poverty at the townships
[11:06.500 -> 11:07.680] like what Sia did,
[11:08.540 -> 11:11.620] demonstrates that you don't need to be surrounded by wealth
[11:11.620 -> 11:15.980] and riches and contact lists to be able to have a dream,
[11:15.980 -> 11:17.740] you know, and know where you want to go to
[11:17.740 -> 11:19.180] and know that you want something better
[11:19.180 -> 11:20.820] than what you have today.
[11:20.820 -> 11:21.860] And I think that is,
[11:21.860 -> 11:23.420] I'm so pleased you've mentioned that early on
[11:23.420 -> 11:25.000] because I sometimes, well, I often have an you've mentioned that early on because I sometimes,
[11:25.000 -> 11:28.960] well I often have an issue that when we're on here and we're talking about big ambitions
[11:28.960 -> 11:36.440] and big dreams, I'm really aware that you know, you and I are privileged middle age,
[11:36.440 -> 11:40.760] middle class white men to sit on a podcast and talk about wherever you are, you've got
[11:40.760 -> 11:42.640] a dream big and believe things can happen.
[11:42.640 -> 11:46.580] I think it's easy for people listening to this to think well it's okay for you to say that
[11:46.580 -> 11:50.960] because look what you've got compared to what I've got. But then we come back to
[11:50.960 -> 11:54.000] exactly what you just said and let's play a clip actually we've got a clip
[11:54.000 -> 11:59.020] about Sia talking about where he was from and I think it's important when
[11:59.020 -> 12:03.080] you're listening to these pods that this isn't me and Damien saying you can go
[12:03.080 -> 12:08.280] and achieve anything you want. This is Sia Kolisi, who could not have been born
[12:08.280 -> 12:10.000] in more abject poverty than he was,
[12:10.000 -> 12:12.140] with less opportunities than he had,
[12:12.140 -> 12:14.640] telling you that you can still dream
[12:14.640 -> 12:15.680] and that you shouldn't be a victim.
[12:15.680 -> 12:16.520] Have a listen.
[12:19.760 -> 12:21.000] Just because your friends are poor
[12:21.000 -> 12:22.760] doesn't mean you're gonna be poor.
[12:22.760 -> 12:24.520] You gotta work each and every single day.
[12:24.520 -> 12:27.320] Like for me, because the opportunity will come.
[12:27.320 -> 12:28.560] That's what I realized.
[12:28.560 -> 12:30.440] The opportunity will come or it might not come.
[12:30.440 -> 12:33.320] Some people doesn't come, but I prepared each and every single day
[12:33.320 -> 12:34.480] by going to training.
[12:34.480 -> 12:37.680] And when the opportunity came, I was ready when I got my bursary.
[12:37.680 -> 12:40.000] Most people complain and complain and complain.
[12:40.000 -> 12:42.560] Opportunity presents itself and they're not ready.
[12:42.560 -> 12:47.120] And that's where the difference is in that every single time I've had an opportunity,
[12:47.120 -> 12:48.920] I've been able to create with both hands
[12:48.920 -> 12:50.160] because I've been preparing
[12:50.160 -> 12:52.440] and the way that my grandmother raised me.
[12:52.440 -> 12:55.520] You gotta make use of what you have around you
[12:55.520 -> 12:57.880] before you start complaining about what you don't have.
[12:57.880 -> 12:59.640] One of the biggest thing that I've learned,
[12:59.640 -> 13:01.880] I'm gonna use everything I can.
[13:01.880 -> 13:03.920] If I can't make it, then I'll go look for help
[13:03.920 -> 13:06.760] because maybe this is not enough anymore.
[13:06.760 -> 13:08.120] Strong message, Damien.
[13:08.120 -> 13:08.960] Absolutely.
[13:08.960 -> 13:10.880] I think that your point that you made
[13:10.880 -> 13:13.320] before we listened to that was that
[13:13.320 -> 13:14.640] it's not where you're from.
[13:14.640 -> 13:18.000] It's very much around that we all have the capacity
[13:18.000 -> 13:21.120] to dream, to imagine what life could be like,
[13:21.120 -> 13:24.000] you know, that things could be better than it is.
[13:24.000 -> 13:26.400] And I think wherever you're from, surrounding yourself with people gallai bywyd yn eich gwybod y gallai pethau fod yn well na'r yw ac rwy'n credu pwydaf y byddwch chi o
[13:26.400 -> 13:33.440] ymweld â phobl sy'n deall a mae ychydig o ymdrech gyda'r math o ddreimiau y byddwch chi'n
[13:33.440 -> 13:37.600] eu rhannu gyda phobl rydych chi'n ei ddod o'i gydnabod, pobl sy'n cymryd eu hunain gyda chi,
[13:37.600 -> 13:42.400] sy'n rhan eithaf gallanol o dechrau creu trib. Felly os ydych chi'n meddwl amdano,
[13:42.400 -> 13:49.840] rwyf wedi sôn am Joseph Campbell ac rwyf wedi dweud ei fod yn y gynhyrch ar gyfer Star Wars ac arferion eraill fel Lord o'r Rhyngau,
[13:49.840 -> 13:55.040] o seiliedig ar y llyfrau angenwydd, yn amlwg, ond mae angen i'r trwydd o bobl sy'n cymryd
[13:55.040 -> 14:00.480] â ni. Dyma un o'r pethau rydw i'n dweud wrthio i bobl sy'n cymryd cysylltiad gyda mi am sefydlu
[14:00.480 -> 14:08.160] eu busnes eu hunain. Dwi'n dweud, gwneud yn si�ŵr bod gennych eich bobl sylweddol yn eich bywydau wedi'u gael i'ch ddrew o'r hyn y bydd y ddealwad hwnnw i chi'n ei roi,
[14:08.160 -> 14:13.440] beth mae'n mynd i'w gofyn a'r arloes y mae'n ei wneud, oherwydd mae angen iddo dod ymlaen
[14:13.440 -> 14:18.320] ac yn meddwl yn y ddrew honno hefyd, ac dyna'r hyn y sgwrsodd Sia am, chi'n gwybod, y dynolion o'i
[14:18.320 -> 14:25.680] granddyn nhw, er enghraifft, yn ymdrechu a'r hyn sy'n gofyn ymdrechu i'w gwneud i'w credu in nurturing and encouraging that optimism to make him believe that, you know,
[14:25.680 -> 14:28.120] where he was from wasn't necessarily gonna be
[14:28.120 -> 14:30.840] where he would end his days.
[14:30.840 -> 14:31.720] I love it.
[14:31.720 -> 14:33.320] So that's the dream stage.
[14:33.320 -> 14:34.600] So first of all, as we've heard,
[14:34.600 -> 14:36.320] you have to have the dream.
[14:36.320 -> 14:37.840] Don't be negative.
[14:37.840 -> 14:39.320] Don't be a victim.
[14:39.320 -> 14:41.680] Don't think that this dream is somebody else's
[14:41.680 -> 14:43.560] because the circumstances around me
[14:43.560 -> 14:45.960] mean this dream is never gonna happen for me.
[14:45.960 -> 14:47.360] If you have that mentality,
[14:47.360 -> 14:49.760] then you're pretty much hitting a full stop
[14:49.760 -> 14:51.040] before you've even got going.
[14:51.040 -> 14:54.360] Then comes the moment where you need to take a leap.
[14:54.360 -> 14:56.160] And that is the moment that we hear
[14:56.160 -> 14:57.560] from the former Liverpool captain
[14:57.560 -> 15:00.320] and the current Rangers manager, Steven Gerrard.
[15:02.880 -> 15:08.600] What would you say is your one golden rule to living a high performance life?
[15:08.600 -> 15:10.600] Sacrifice.
[15:10.600 -> 15:11.600] Sacrifice is massive.
[15:11.600 -> 15:12.600] I think there's two.
[15:12.600 -> 15:13.600] There's the sacrifice.
[15:13.600 -> 15:18.860] And as I say, that word, them two words being all in, I don't think you can get to where
[15:18.860 -> 15:21.560] you want to get to if you're 80, 90% on it.
[15:21.560 -> 15:23.200] I think you've got to go for it.
[15:23.200 -> 15:25.600] It's a difficult message sometimes for people to hear, Damien,
[15:25.600 -> 15:26.920] but it's probably the crucial one.
[15:26.920 -> 15:28.640] We've come up with the dream.
[15:28.640 -> 15:30.720] The only way to now make that dream a reality
[15:30.720 -> 15:32.800] is in the words of Steven Gerrard.
[15:32.800 -> 15:34.080] He knows this because he's been there,
[15:34.080 -> 15:36.480] is to be all in.
[15:36.480 -> 15:37.320] Absolutely.
[15:37.320 -> 15:41.200] If you think about it in terms of that phrase,
[15:41.200 -> 15:43.360] what it encapsulates is commitment.
[15:43.360 -> 15:45.840] And commitment is the idea that at some stage you make a choice that I'm going to go for this. None of our guests that we've been lucky enough Mae'r fras hwn yn cyfathrebu'r gwybodaeth, ac mae'r gwybodaeth yn y peth y byddwch chi'n gwneud
[15:45.840 -> 15:50.640] penderfyniad y byddwn i'n mynd i'r hyn. Nid o'n ni'n gwybodai ein bod ni wedi bod yn ddigon ffodus i'w gwrthwynebu
[15:50.640 -> 15:56.160] yn y tri series ar hyn o bryd, Jake, wedi cael eu gweld lle ydyn nhw ar gyfer byth.
[15:56.160 -> 16:00.320] Nid oeddent wedi ysgrifennu ar un diwrnod a chael gwybod eu bod yn perfformiau eang,
[16:00.320 -> 16:09.040] ac nid oeddent yn gwybod sut oeddent wedi'i wneud. Yn rhai leoedd, rhaid iddyn nhw wneud penderfyniad i fod yn mynd i hyn ac i fod yn parhau i wneud y cyfrifiadau a chyflawni'r
[16:09.040 -> 16:14.880] standardau sydd eu hangen arnynt. Ac yn rhai leoedd, rhaid i ni ddweud stop a rhaid i ni ddechrau
[16:14.880 -> 16:21.040] wneud rhywbeth sy'n ein mynd i'r dyrfa hwnnw. Rwy'n hoffi ddwy o saintion Steven Gerrard
[16:21.040 -> 16:26.800] fel ffordd o ddysgrifio'r moment lle rydych chi'n dechrau ymdrechu i lle rydych chi eisiau bod. two words all in as a way of describing that moment where you start to move
[16:26.800 -> 16:31.640] towards where you want to be. And at this point I want to talk to you about fear
[16:31.640 -> 16:36.920] of failure because I think it's probably easier to have a dream than it is to
[16:36.920 -> 16:40.840] take the leap and we will always have reasons to not take the leap and
[16:40.840 -> 16:44.000] probably the biggest one for a lot of people listening to this is the fear of
[16:44.000 -> 16:48.800] taking the leap and letting themselves down letting the people around them down ddim yn ymwneud â'r ymdrechion, ac yn eithaf cynnar i lawer o bobl sy'n clywed hyn yw'r gofyn o ddod i'r ymdrechion a'u gwneud eu llai, a'u gwneud y bobl ar ymdrechion, yn teimlo'n
[16:48.800 -> 16:55.520] ymddygiad, oherwydd eu bod yn gadael. Yn siŵr, rwy'n credu bod hynny'n un o'r ffyrdd
[16:55.520 -> 17:01.840] gallanol i'w ymdrechu, yw, yn gyntaf, yn ymwneud â'r broses, ydyn ni wedi sôn ychydig o
[17:01.840 -> 17:08.080] gyfran ar y pod o ran y cyfnod cyntaf, yn gweithio all y pethau sy'n gallu mynd yn iawn ac yn gweithio all y pethau a sut rydyn ni'n mynd i'w
[17:08.080 -> 17:13.440] ymdrechu ac un ohonyn nhw yw'r gofyn o ddifrif. Ac rwy'n credu bod Kelly Jones, pan
[17:13.440 -> 17:17.360] ysgafon ni a sônodd iddo iddo, yn sôn am sut roedd e wedi treulio blynyddoedd yn mynd i lawr
[17:17.360 -> 17:22.080] ymhellion, yn gofyn am y cyfnodau o'r hyn sy'n gallu digwydd. Ac rwy'n credu
[17:22.080 -> 17:26.120] bod yn bwysig bod ni'n gwneud y cyfathrebu
[17:26.120 -> 17:27.320] a'i gynllunio yn ystod y ffailur,
[17:27.320 -> 17:28.960] yn hytrach na'i weld fel stop cyflawn,
[17:28.960 -> 17:30.640] mae'n ystyried y cyfathrebu fel coma ynghylch y byd.
[17:30.640 -> 17:32.200] Mae'n amser i ni roi'r pas
[17:32.200 -> 17:33.440] i feddwl am
[17:33.440 -> 17:35.440] a ydym yn y peth dda neu ddim,
[17:35.440 -> 17:37.320] ond gweld e fel rhan o'r broses.
[17:37.320 -> 17:38.480] Mae'r ffailur yn ymddangosol
[17:38.480 -> 17:40.240] yn rhan o'ch ffyrdd
[17:40.240 -> 17:41.240] i gyflwyno'n fawr.
[17:41.240 -> 17:43.360] Felly, yn hytrach na'i ffyrdd,
[17:43.360 -> 17:44.280] ymdrech at e
[17:44.280 -> 17:47.200] a gweld e fel un o'r cyfle i ddysgu. Ac yma yw Kelly yn siarad am to high performance so rather than fear it embrace it and see it as just an opportunity to learn.
[17:47.140 -> 17:50.340] Here is kelly talking about going down wormholes.
[17:53.620 -> 18:01.660] My head is took me down so many were moles in my life that i've lost so much time from doing it and that's one thing i'd like in the future i'd never want to continue to do.
[18:03.960 -> 18:08.400] future I'd never want to continue to do. It's an occupational hazard in some ways because the places you go to brings out some gold sometimes but unfortunately
[18:08.400 -> 18:11.400] you can miss moments in your life that are right in front of you.
[18:11.400 -> 18:15.640] I think what's key with that Damien and for those of you that didn't listen to
[18:15.640 -> 18:19.080] the episode with Kelly Jones the lead singer of the Stereophonics it was one
[18:19.080 -> 18:22.880] of the most moving interviews that we've done and not the kind of conversation
[18:22.880 -> 18:26.060] that you would expect three blokes sitting around a table to have even
[18:26.140 -> 18:31.820] Five years ago, I would imagine so I'd encourage you to find the episode and have a listen to it
[18:32.460 -> 18:34.680] There was something really important that came out of that though
[18:34.680 -> 18:38.900] Not just the fact that even someone who's achieved as much as Kelly has with his band
[18:39.200 -> 18:46.180] Went down wormholes and if he's gonna find himself doing that and having doubts and struggles and things, then we all will.
[18:46.180 -> 18:50.060] But almost accepting that that is part
[18:50.060 -> 18:51.540] of getting the success.
[18:51.540 -> 18:55.020] You almost have to accept there's going to be failure,
[18:55.020 -> 18:56.060] struggles and difficulty,
[18:56.060 -> 18:58.780] but use it to your advantage as he does.
[18:58.780 -> 18:59.860] Yeah, definitely.
[18:59.860 -> 19:01.980] I think just acknowledging it at this stage
[19:01.980 -> 19:04.980] that you use that lovely phrase about
[19:04.980 -> 19:06.080] you walk towards the fear rather than try and avoid it. dim ond ymdrech arno ar y stage y mae'r ddau'r ffrasau hynny'n ddefnyddiol y byddwch chi'n mynd i'r
[19:06.080 -> 19:11.200] gofyn yn hytrach na'i gofyn a'i ddrys. Rwy'n credu unwaith y byddwch chi'n ymdrech arno y bydd
[19:11.200 -> 19:14.960] hwn yn digwydd, byddwn i'n cael ein hollol yn cael ei roi ar ein hollol. Rwy'n gwybod eich bod wedi siarad yn
[19:14.960 -> 19:20.640] oer, roeddwn i'n grwpio mewn sefydliad o boxi, ac mae hwn yn un o'r pethau, roedd ymgynghoriad
[19:20.640 -> 19:25.840] y bydd llawer o boxers ddim yn hoffi ei gael, ond yopeth y bydd y boxers'n gynrychioli yw sut y byddwch chi'n mynd i'w gynhyrchu'r
[19:25.840 -> 19:31.360] moment yna lle rydych chi'n cael eich bod yn eich gweld ar y canfas. Ac y rhai a'n ceisio'n ymdrech a dweud oh,
[19:31.360 -> 19:35.680] nid oedd e'n digwydd i mi. Gallwch weld y bydd, yn y momentau glir hynny pan ydyn nhw'n ei wneud,
[19:35.680 -> 19:40.480] maen nhw'n panicio, maen nhw'n ysbrydoli ac maen nhw'n teimlo'n ymdrech i'r anodd.
[19:41.040 -> 19:49.280] Yr rhai sy'n ymdrechu ato a meddwl am sut y byddant yn mynd i'w gynrychioli, maen nhw'n ymdrechion. Yr hyn y byddent yn ymdrechu ac yn meddwl am sut y byddent yn ymdrechu, byddent yn ymdrechu yn y moment. Byddwch yn ddweud y byddwch yn gweld eu karma yn y ffordd y byddent yn rhoi eu hunain
[19:49.280 -> 19:53.920] ychydig o amser i eu cyflawni eu hunain, byddent yn cymryd ysgol a byddent yn defnyddio y cyfnod
[19:53.920 -> 19:59.040] o ochr 8 oed i'w ffantais. Rwy'n hoffi defnyddio'r analogiaeth hwnnw i meddwl am sut y byddwch chi'n
[19:59.040 -> 20:03.280] ymdrechu y momentau y byddwch chi'n cael eu rhoi ar eich ôl. Os ydych chi'n ymdrechu,
[20:03.280 -> 20:05.600] dydych chi ddim yn gwybod sut y bydd you don't know how you're going to respond in the moment.
[20:05.620 -> 20:09.360] If you prepare for it, you can actually deal with it in an
[20:09.360 -> 20:11.200] elegant, calm, graceful manner.
[20:11.680 -> 20:13.120] It's that Mike Tyson quote, isn't it?
[20:13.400 -> 20:13.720] Yeah.
[20:13.760 -> 20:16.080] Everyone's got a plan until you get punched in the face.
[20:16.320 -> 20:16.920] Exactly.
[20:16.920 -> 20:18.960] And I think you're right.
[20:19.040 -> 20:22.680] If you, if you anticipate how you're going to handle that getting punched in the face,
[20:22.920 -> 20:25.400] it gives you the chance of then
[20:31.380 -> 20:31.520] Continuing to leap and move towards the destination you want to get to so have the dream
[20:33.760 -> 20:35.360] Don't be negative about your dream. Don't be a victim Don't imagine that dream isn't for you
[20:35.360 -> 20:40.400] And then once you've got the dream you have to take the leap you have to take the leap knowing that there is going to
[20:40.400 -> 20:42.080] Be failure there is going to be struggle
[20:42.080 -> 20:48.600] But if you go all in and you use the struggle and the challenges as positives and you have a plan for when you get punched
[20:48.600 -> 20:51.520] in the face, you're then on the journey.
[20:51.520 -> 20:55.960] But it's not over yet, because now we enter the fight stage and we're going to hear from
[20:55.960 -> 20:57.240] a man who did fight.
[20:57.240 -> 21:03.160] He fought as a Gurkha, he fought as a special forces operative, and then he fought to climb
[21:03.160 -> 21:05.640] the biggest and scariest mountains
[21:05.640 -> 21:10.480] in the world faster than anybody else. Nimz Perja joined us on series three of the pod,
[21:10.480 -> 21:16.640] and if we're talking about fight, he's the perfect man to hear from.
[21:16.640 -> 21:21.000] I always believe that if you want to be the best in the world, you shouldn't have any
[21:21.000 -> 21:25.000] excuses. And I always believe that, you know,
[21:25.000 -> 21:27.000] excuses are for losers.
[21:27.000 -> 21:31.000] Have you heard any person who has won make any excuses?
[21:31.000 -> 21:32.000] No.
[21:32.000 -> 21:35.000] And I didn't want to fall in that category.
[21:35.000 -> 21:37.000] That is as simple as that, you know.
[21:37.000 -> 21:40.000] Even maybe when I fail to, you know,
[21:40.000 -> 21:43.000] summit a mountain, I will probably come with excuses.
[21:43.000 -> 21:49.840] But then I made that excuse because I failed it. and I don't want to fall in that category. You lose, you lose.
[21:49.840 -> 21:52.360] So it's very simple for me.
[21:52.360 -> 21:57.320] The eye opener for me on that clip, Damien, in that episode with Nims was that he readily
[21:57.320 -> 22:02.100] said that when I'm making excuses, that's when I know I failed. Because I think one
[22:02.100 -> 22:07.460] of the things for me is I'm never really sure when I am doing Well or not doing very well and since interviewing nims
[22:07.460 -> 22:13.880] I've reframed my thinking to if I find little excuses coming in if I'm making excuses for the things that aren't going very well
[22:14.320 -> 22:18.060] That is when I know I'm on the wrong path. Yeah, definitely Jake
[22:18.060 -> 22:24.760] I think if there's three words that sum up so many of our interviews, it's fault versus responsibility and I think
[22:24.640 -> 22:26.240] i ddod o hyd i'r nifer o'n cyfrifiadau, mae'n ddewis dros y cyfrifiadau. Ac rwy'n credu
[22:30.960 -> 22:35.520] mae controli ein iaith a chroesawu lle mae ein iaith yn ddewis ein meddwl, os ydych chi'n troi'r ddewis yn y ffingr a'n edrych ar ddechrau pam nad oedd yn ddewis i mi,
[22:35.520 -> 22:40.480] pam nad yw'r bobl hwn yn fy nghymryd, pam nad oedd hyn yn gweithio. Rydyn ni'n dechrau i ddewis
[22:40.480 -> 22:48.780] y gofyniadau bod hyn yn ddiweddar o'n ffyrdd a bod gennym rhyw ffyrdd i'w ddewis, to accept the possibility that this is the end of our journey and that we've found a reason to justify it and it protects our ego that I failed because
[22:48.780 -> 22:52.660] but it wasn't my fault. On our podcast we love to highlight businesses that are
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[24:26.000 -> 24:28.000] And that's the moment where
[24:28.000 -> 24:30.000] the fight stage
[24:30.000 -> 24:32.000] often ends up
[24:32.000 -> 24:34.000] crippling so many people that are on their
[24:34.000 -> 24:36.000] journey to high performance.
[24:36.000 -> 24:38.000] I often think that, if you relate it to say
[24:38.000 -> 24:40.000] in football clubs, this is the moment where
[24:40.000 -> 24:42.000] a football club sacks its head coach
[24:42.000 -> 24:44.000] at the fight stage as soon as they experience
[24:44.000 -> 24:45.120] difficulty, and they bring in somebody that takes you back to stage one y bydd y clwb ffotbol yn saxio'r coac ar y stage ffyrdd yma ynglyn â'r broblemau a
[24:45.120 -> 24:48.400] maen nhw'n dod i mewn i rywun sy'n eich gyrraedd yn ôl i'r stage un a'u gael pawb yn
[24:48.400 -> 24:53.280] ymdrech. Ac yna, er mai ddysgu'r broblemau ar y stage ffyrdd y byddwch chi'n
[24:53.280 -> 24:59.200] mynd i'w profi, a dechrau dangos ymdrech a deall a'r rhanfawrdd,
[24:59.200 -> 25:03.600] byddwch chi'n teimlo'n cael eich gael yn y cyflwr hwnnw o blwyddyn ar y flwyddyn ar y flwyddyn ar y flwyddyn.
[25:03.600 -> 25:09.560] Felly deall pa mor allweddolol yw, a ddim yn gwneud ymdrechion, you find yourself trapped in that cycle year after year after year. So, understanding how powerful language is and not making excuses, but embracing complete
[25:09.560 -> 25:14.840] responsibility is a really critical factor of getting through this fight stage.
[25:14.840 -> 25:18.160] And I think this is an important message, particularly for young people listening to
[25:18.160 -> 25:23.040] this because as parents, we're both parents of young children, I am daily concerned about
[25:23.040 -> 25:25.520] whether I'm creating resilience in my kids.
[25:25.520 -> 25:30.840] And I love the phrase that failure isn't the opposite of success, it's the journey to getting
[25:30.840 -> 25:31.840] there.
[25:31.840 -> 25:34.360] And I think that it's really important at this point, when we've talked about the dream
[25:34.360 -> 25:40.720] and the leap and now you're fighting, is people have to expect that they're going to fight.
[25:40.720 -> 25:44.680] Because all too often people go, right, this is my plan.
[25:44.680 -> 25:45.680] And two or three weeks or
[25:45.680 -> 25:48.440] two or three months later they're struggling, they're fighting and they're failing and they
[25:48.440 -> 25:52.320] think, oh whoops, I went down totally the wrong road, this isn't my plan at all.
[25:52.320 -> 25:56.880] Well, it is your plan and the fight is part of getting there, you're not on the wrong
[25:56.880 -> 25:57.880] path.
[25:57.880 -> 26:02.040] So then they stop and go, right, I'm going to go 180 degrees in that direction and then
[26:02.040 -> 26:04.640] they fight in that direction as well because it's inevitable.
[26:04.640 -> 26:06.400] So then they're suddenly lost and then they go nowhere.
[26:06.400 -> 26:11.100] I know it's like when you set yourself a New Year's resolution and people say
[26:11.100 -> 26:14.880] oh you know it's a new year new you and they've got all these plans about say
[26:14.880 -> 26:20.140] wanting to lose weight and feel great in the summer on the holidays and what we
[26:20.140 -> 26:24.420] know is that like membership of diet club spikes in the first few weeks of
[26:24.420 -> 26:27.840] January where people are desperate to go along and do it but their membership
[26:27.840 -> 26:31.320] falls off by approximately the same numbers by the second week of February
[26:31.320 -> 26:35.680] and that's because that's when you've got far enough into your journey you've
[26:35.680 -> 26:39.600] made the leap and then you stumble and fall for the first time and this is where
[26:39.600 -> 26:43.800] people then start making excuses, oh I can't lose weight, my mum and dad were
[26:43.800 -> 26:45.480] fat or I'm big boned,
[26:45.480 -> 26:47.960] or, you know, and they start coming up
[26:47.960 -> 26:50.960] with all kinds of ridiculous excuses
[26:50.960 -> 26:55.920] to justify that they've fallen and it's not their fault.
[26:55.920 -> 26:57.600] And I think exactly like you say,
[26:57.600 -> 27:00.880] if we embrace it and see it, that we will fall,
[27:00.880 -> 27:04.200] but it's how we respond to those setbacks
[27:04.200 -> 27:05.600] that give us the opportunity of
[27:05.600 -> 27:10.680] keep progressing towards our our dream. So don't be embarrassed by the failure
[27:10.680 -> 27:16.840] don't avoid the failure don't think that the failure is actually failure it isn't
[27:16.840 -> 27:20.780] and the other thing is it's coming your way as Matthew McConaughey so
[27:20.780 -> 27:24.760] brilliantly explained when he joined us.
[27:24.760 -> 27:25.160] Look you gotta have the dark to appreciate the light you gotta I mean O'Connor he so brilliantly explained when he joined us.
[27:27.840 -> 27:31.160] Look, you got to have the dark to appreciate the light you got to I mean, the end in the end you got to I mean, we don't like
[27:31.160 -> 27:36.240] the yellow and red lights in our life, but damn, if most of the
[27:36.240 -> 27:39.560] time they aren't something we need. So then goes back to your
[27:39.560 -> 27:42.920] earlier question. Do we recognize what the lesson we got
[27:42.920 -> 27:46.000] from him? Because yeah, all red lights and yellow lights do suck
[27:46.000 -> 27:50.000] if we don't actually realize what we were supposed to learn.
[27:50.000 -> 27:52.000] And if we don't realize what we're supposed to learn
[27:52.000 -> 27:54.000] in the crisis or hardships of life
[27:54.000 -> 27:57.000] or things we don't get that we wanted, what do we do?
[27:57.000 -> 28:00.000] Suck on this little merry-go-round of nothing but green lights,
[28:00.000 -> 28:02.000] running out of gas because life's for nothing but entertainment?
[28:02.000 -> 28:04.000] Well, that sounds like a bunch of pfft.
[28:04.000 -> 28:07.060] You know what I mean? Where's the evolution? Where's the
[28:07.060 -> 28:11.580] ascension? If you step in step in shit and every time you step in shit you pop
[28:11.580 -> 28:14.800] up and scrape it off and keep running and you come around the track again you
[28:14.800 -> 28:20.080] step in shit again. So the loophole is I think I'm gonna not just scrape shit off
[28:20.080 -> 28:22.440] my boots right now and keep running. I'm actually gonna turn around and go why do
[28:22.440 -> 28:28.000] I keep stepping in that pile of shit? So I recognize, so next time I come around the bend,
[28:28.000 -> 28:30.280] I can go around it, I can hop over it,
[28:30.280 -> 28:32.660] or you know, find another path.
[28:32.660 -> 28:37.480] So create a yellow light, a red light to go,
[28:37.480 -> 28:38.600] that's the time where you go,
[28:38.600 -> 28:40.280] why am I stepping in that shit?
[28:40.280 -> 28:43.440] That's the self-imposed red or yellow light.
[28:43.440 -> 28:45.140] Or you say, when we talk about taking risks, to realize what the lesson is, the self-imposed red or yellow light or you say when we talk about taking risk
[28:45.320 -> 28:51.000] To realize what the lesson is the self-imposed yellow and red light to go. Wait a minute. Let me take pause here
[28:51.000 -> 28:53.000] What am I supposed to learn from this?
[28:53.080 -> 28:55.980] If you do that that yellow and red then becomes green
[28:57.120 -> 29:01.640] So that conversation Damien moved us even further down the road of talking about
[29:02.160 -> 29:04.160] excuses because it's not just like
[29:04.240 -> 29:06.080] Making excuses is a bad thing and you shouldn't do it. What Matthew is basically saying is making excuses ar y ffordd o siarad am argyfwngau oherwydd nid yw'n unig fel bod gwneud argyfwngau yn beth ddifrif
[29:06.080 -> 29:11.840] ac y dydyn ni ddim yn ei wneud. Mae'n dweud y byddwn i'n dweud y byddwn i'n gwneud argyfwngau yn gyrhaeddu'r dysgu.
[29:11.840 -> 29:17.840] Yn siŵr, oherwydd yna eto rydych chi'n ei gynhyrchu. Felly meddwl amdano os oes unrhyw un yn
[29:17.840 -> 29:23.920] clywed hynny y byddant yn clywed, dweud, a team sport ar ôl ymdrech. Clywed y iaith
[29:23.920 -> 29:26.960] o'r coedwyr, y coedwyr cyfranogol ar ôl hynny, y bydd edrychwch ar y iaith o'r coaches, y coaches cyfraith
[29:26.960 -> 29:30.960] ar ôl hyn, y byddwch chi'n clywed bod coach cyfraith yn dod allan ar ôl y llwyddiant ac yn dechrau'n
[29:30.960 -> 29:37.280] gwblhau'r ymarferydd neu'r cyfrifiadau neu'r amgylchedd neu rhywbeth o ffyrdd o'u control.
[29:37.280 -> 29:42.080] Mae'n rhedeg y gallu i wneud unrhyw beth amdano, oherwydd nid oedd yn fy nilen, roedd yn ddangos
[29:42.080 -> 29:48.960] sianel, roedd y pethau. Yn ystod hyn, yr hyn y byddwch chi'n ei ddod o'r ffordd i ddangos y coaches cyffredinol, byddant yn ymgyrchu'r rhesymau ar gyfer y
[29:48.960 -> 29:52.720] ymddygiad fel rhywbeth y gallent ei wneud o ran, wyt ti'n gwybod, nid oedd ein cymorth yn iawn
[29:52.720 -> 29:57.920] yma'r wythnos, nid oedd ein cymorth yn iawn, nid oedd ein cymorth yn dda o hyd, ac mae hynny'n golygu
[29:57.920 -> 30:02.960] y gallwch chi'i gysylltu, gallwch chi wneud rhywbeth amdano. Felly mae yna nir yn ddiogel
[30:02.960 -> 30:08.000] ar y pethau sy'n mynd yn iawn. Dydwch ddim yn ei ddifrifio, ond mynd i'w ddifro a'i gweithio. something about it. So there's almost an intelligence to when things go wrong. Don't externalize it, but go and explore it and work out,
[30:08.000 -> 30:08.840] what does that tell me?
[30:08.840 -> 30:11.040] What do I need to do better next time?
[30:11.040 -> 30:14.680] That means that if I face it, I'm smarter and wiser.
[30:14.680 -> 30:17.920] I mean, and just to kind of press pause on this for a minute
[30:17.920 -> 30:20.880] and take us out of just having this conversation
[30:20.880 -> 30:24.080] for other people, like for us, for me,
[30:24.080 -> 30:26.400] I'm 42 years old, Damien, and we are
[30:26.400 -> 30:29.480] having conversations that I am learning from and even sitting in now and
[30:29.480 -> 30:33.880] reflecting on it, I'm learning even more, like the fact that making an excuse
[30:33.880 -> 30:38.120] takes away the ability to learn from an error or a mistake or a period of
[30:38.120 -> 30:42.440] difficulty, I had not considered that until the age I'm at now, I just kind of
[30:42.440 -> 30:45.100] assumed, as a lot of people do the excuses are part of life.
[30:45.100 -> 30:46.460] You're not in control of excuses.
[30:46.460 -> 30:47.100] Something goes wrong.
[30:47.100 -> 30:47.940] You look for the excuse.
[30:47.940 -> 30:48.700] That's what you do.
[30:48.700 -> 30:49.900] Like that's the way it works.
[30:50.440 -> 30:53.020] Suddenly that's not the way it works.
[30:53.060 -> 30:54.520] Well, I'll give you a personal example.
[30:54.520 -> 30:58.460] Again, we're on a journey with, uh, with the podcast and a lot of my
[30:58.460 -> 31:01.180] preparation is I like reading about our guests that we're going to do.
[31:01.180 -> 31:10.880] And then I'll scribble some themes and then I like to sort of turn up and just listen to them and then go wherever the interview takes us. am ein gwestiynau rydyn ni'n mynd i'w wneud ac yna byddwn yn sgribbio rhai themaethau ac yna rydw i'n hoffi ddewis i ddewis ac yna gwneud pawb i mewn i bawb, ac yna, pan ddechreuon ni gyda Stephen Gerrard,
[31:10.880 -> 31:16.080] dweud wrthoddwch i chi, roeddwn i'n teimlo ei fod wedi'i llaio oherwydd roeddwn i wedi ymdrech ar rai o
[31:16.080 -> 31:21.360] fy mhrofiadau ac roeddwn i ddim yn gofyn nhw fel y byddwn i'n teimlo y gallais i wneud. Felly, yn hytrach na
[31:21.360 -> 31:46.360] ddweud y gallwn ni ddweud unrhyw ffactor arall ar hyn roeddwn i eisiau mynd i ddweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweud y ffordd a dweed y ffordd a dweed y ffordd a dweed y ffordd a dweed y ffordd a dweed y ffordd a dweed y ffordd a dweee y ffordd a dweeee y use it as a crutch if I needed to.
[31:46.360 -> 31:49.160] Now, the responsibility and the fault
[31:49.160 -> 31:52.480] for what I felt was an underperformance on my part
[31:52.480 -> 31:54.040] was entirely down to me,
[31:54.040 -> 31:56.000] but I could understand what I'd done
[31:56.000 -> 31:59.160] that meant I could try and get a little bit better next time.
[31:59.160 -> 32:01.480] And I think sometimes people are so reluctant
[32:01.480 -> 32:05.600] to discuss where to improve improve and things because they think
[32:05.600 -> 32:09.400] it's like a criticism of them or it's a slight on their own character. I'd look
[32:09.400 -> 32:14.720] at it a different way now which is like you owe it to yourself to look at where
[32:14.720 -> 32:18.800] you can improve. Are you basically saying, you're either saying I'm so arrogant and
[32:18.800 -> 32:21.960] so perfect and so brilliant I can't improve so I'm not gonna bother learning
[32:21.960 -> 32:26.920] from that mistake or the total opposite which is I'm not really worth improving
[32:26.920 -> 32:30.160] I'm not really worthy of looking at the little bits in my life and making them better
[32:30.360 -> 32:34.260] Which again comes back to who the people you surround yourself are Jake
[32:34.260 -> 32:35.320] So I think
[32:35.320 -> 32:39.440] surrounding yourself with people at that early stage of the dream process that are
[32:39.560 -> 32:43.120] Invested in your dream and care about it and understand your journey
[32:43.560 -> 32:45.520] Mean that when they come and say to you you could get better at that or you can talk to them about how do I? yn eich ddreimau a'i gofio ac yn deall eich mhrofiad, sy'n golygu bod pan fyddant yn dweud i chi,
[32:45.520 -> 32:49.760] gallwch chi ddod yn well ar hynny, neu gallwch chi siarad â nhw am sut i gwella ar hyn.
[32:50.480 -> 32:54.960] Maen nhw'n cymryd ei gyda chi ar eich cyfansoddiad, ac mae'n mynd i roi rhywbeth ddiddorol i chi,
[32:54.960 -> 32:59.840] ac yn gobeithio'n ddefnyddiol, y gallwch chi ei ddod allan a'i ddefnyddio. Felly lle byddwch chi'n
[32:59.840 -> 33:05.160] gweld eich cyfrifoldeb yn ddod yn bwysig iawn, dylai ddyna ddim yn ei wneud ar y cyfansoddiadau cymdeithasol neu validation becomes really important. It shouldn't be done on social media or to
[33:05.160 -> 33:09.360] the masses, it should be done just internally with a group of people
[33:09.360 -> 33:13.540] that you trust, that have got your best interests at heart. So we've had the
[33:13.540 -> 33:17.960] dream, we've talked about the importance of not being negative, not being a
[33:17.960 -> 33:22.320] victim, we've then taken the leap and we've realised that actually failure
[33:22.320 -> 33:28.400] isn't something to avoid, failure is something to embrace and even when we're fighting, as Nims has explained to us, if
[33:28.400 -> 33:31.920] you find yourself suddenly making excuses that's when you know you might
[33:31.920 -> 33:35.840] be starting to fail so you need to pull yourself back and Matthew McConaughey's
[33:35.840 -> 33:40.280] point that excuses literally remove the learning from the struggles is
[33:40.280 -> 33:44.440] absolutely vital as well. So we are struggling, we're not making excuses,
[33:44.440 -> 33:46.400] we're learning from our struggles,
[33:46.400 -> 33:47.680] but we're also climbing.
[33:47.680 -> 33:49.720] And that brings us into the climb stage.
[33:49.720 -> 33:52.160] And joining us on the podcast in series three
[33:52.160 -> 33:55.040] was a man who climbed to the top of the world,
[33:55.040 -> 33:58.600] winning the Rugby World Cup with the England team.
[33:58.600 -> 34:01.260] And he spoke to us about the importance
[34:01.260 -> 34:02.620] of his team ship rules.
[34:04.720 -> 34:06.640] So I'll just give me an example.
[34:06.680 -> 34:12.160] And this is just some of the behaviours, because I think the way you operate off the field of play reflects how you operate on the field of play.
[34:12.160 -> 34:13.400] So let's take a thing called time.
[34:14.080 -> 34:15.280] I am neurotic about time.
[34:15.480 -> 34:17.640] You know, I'm never late for anybody, ever.
[34:18.040 -> 34:21.960] I think time says more about an individual or teams of people and probably anything I can think about.
[34:22.240 -> 34:26.000] So I've had this big conversation with the players, so I set the whole scene and I said, you know,
[34:26.000 -> 34:29.000] I can see Johnson looking at me, so where's this going?
[34:29.000 -> 34:31.000] I said, well, I'm going to leave the room now, I want you to discuss time.
[34:31.000 -> 34:33.000] Because I don't want to stand it for the next eight years
[34:33.000 -> 34:34.000] going, guys, don't be late.
[34:34.000 -> 34:37.000] I want to just put it as an absolute part of our culture.
[34:37.000 -> 34:38.000] So they kind of got it.
[34:38.000 -> 34:40.000] This is why I think Johnson was a genius.
[34:40.000 -> 34:41.000] He kind of got this.
[34:41.000 -> 34:42.000] So they had a big chat about it.
[34:42.000 -> 34:44.000] He came back to me with a bit of paper, said, you know,
[34:44.000 -> 34:50.440] we get what you're saying. So we we're gonna say time is 10 minutes early so if you call a meeting to
[34:50.440 -> 34:55.080] start at 9 o'clock tomorrow morning we'll be in the room at 8.50 and the key thing about this
[34:55.080 -> 34:59.560] team shit rule Jake, you can only become a team shit rule if you get a hundred percent agreement
[34:59.560 -> 35:04.840] and I then read it, that's it and then we think of a name we called it Lombardi time after Vince
[35:04.840 -> 35:06.960] Lombardi a famous American football coach.
[35:06.960 -> 35:08.560] You meet any, and you'll meet these players,
[35:08.560 -> 35:10.800] just meet any England rugby players, go Lombardi time,
[35:10.800 -> 35:12.640] and they'll go 10 minutes early.
[35:12.640 -> 35:14.280] That was a real pleasure to be invited
[35:14.280 -> 35:17.240] to Sir Clive Woodward's garden to sit and talk about it.
[35:17.240 -> 35:19.920] And actually of all of the podcast episodes,
[35:19.920 -> 35:22.880] this series, Team Ship Rules is one that I keep
[35:22.880 -> 35:25.200] on having repeated back to me on social media.
[35:25.200 -> 35:29.440] It really resonated with people, I think, because it's easy to understand, you know?
[35:29.440 -> 35:30.160] Yeah.
[35:30.160 -> 35:33.600] And it can be translated to anyone's life in any situation.
[35:33.600 -> 35:40.240] Yeah, definitely. The ambiguity is the enemy of so many sort of relationships that when you're
[35:40.240 -> 35:44.000] not clear about what are the standards, what are the behaviours that we're not prepared to
[35:44.000 -> 35:45.280] compromise on. And I think then when you start to spot them, like Clive's example there of, pan ddoddwch yn dda am beth yw'r standardau, beth yw'r ymdrechion y dydyn ni ddim yn barod i'w ymgyrchu arnyn nhw.
[35:45.280 -> 35:49.760] Ac rwy'n credu, pan ddechreuwch eu gweld, fel gwelydd Clive,
[35:49.760 -> 35:54.000] os yw'r amserwydd yn standard, nid yw'n unig amserwydd, mae'n ynni'n dweud,
[35:54.000 -> 35:57.360] mae'n ymwneud â'ch ysgolion ar gyfer y bobl eraill, mae'n ymwneud â'ch ymgyrchu,
[35:57.360 -> 36:00.480] ac eto, mae'n ymwneud â'ch gysylltiad, rydych chi wedi dweud y byddwch chi yno,
[36:00.480 -> 36:09.920] felly dywedwch chi ar y cyfnod. Nawr, i gyd, mae'r holl ymdrechion hwnnw o gofyn, ymddygiad a'r cyfrifoldeb, ydy'n ni'n teimlo, pan oedd y gweinidogau'r
[36:09.920 -> 36:14.640] pen ddiweddarwyr 2003 yn ymddygiad, a oedd yn ymddygiad, a oedd y perthynasau hynny yn eu helpu i'w
[36:14.640 -> 36:20.080] gwneud ar y moment honno? Yn wir. Felly rwy'n credu y bydd y rhan o'r gweithio, y rhan o'r climb,
[36:20.080 -> 36:27.440] yw lle rydych chi'n dechrau gweld y deeddwlion mewn gweithredaeth a dechrau cydnabod iddyn nhw'n digwydd
[36:27.440 -> 36:32.880] ac y gallwch yna ddewis pobl i mewn ac ystyried eu bod yn dangos yn unig
[36:32.880 -> 36:35.280] beth rydych chi'n ei ddangos yn eich ddiwygio.
[36:35.280 -> 36:38.240] Ac rydyn ni ddim yn gweld Dylan Hartley, a'n berthnasol i ni ddweud hwn.
[36:38.240 -> 36:41.520] Dwi'n gwybod bod Dylan ddim wedi ymuno â ni ar y pwrpas o'r podcast,
[36:41.520 -> 36:45.240] ond rydyn ni'n meddwl oedd yn ddiddorol iawn i'w chyfathrebu on this episode of the podcast, but we thought it was really interesting to hear
[36:48.680 -> 36:49.720] a different take on creating a winning culture, particularly in rugby.
[36:52.600 -> 36:55.560] The team is the team's, it's not the manager's team.
[36:55.560 -> 36:58.720] There's on-field stuff that is kind of shared
[36:58.720 -> 37:01.140] and sometimes dictated by coaches,
[37:01.140 -> 37:04.480] but culturally, I think the team runs itself.
[37:04.480 -> 37:07.360] I think the best culture is the ones that you feel.
[37:07.360 -> 37:13.120] You walk in, it sounds kind of almost cliche, but you see it and you smell it and you know
[37:13.120 -> 37:17.280] when you walk in that changing room or you go into that training field, you know what's
[37:17.280 -> 37:18.280] expected.
[37:18.280 -> 37:20.940] So this is an important one, isn't it, Damien?
[37:20.940 -> 37:26.480] Because I think quite often, and I certainly had this feeling before creating this podcast,
[37:26.480 -> 37:29.280] I thought that culture was not something
[37:29.280 -> 37:30.880] that you could see and you could feel.
[37:30.880 -> 37:33.080] You kind of had a good one or a bad one.
[37:33.080 -> 37:35.680] Yeah, and I think what's been fascinating
[37:35.680 -> 37:38.560] and where we've been lucky in the whole of the series
[37:38.560 -> 37:41.540] that we've done is like that example with Dylan.
[37:41.540 -> 37:47.520] We're seeing so many different perspectives. So we've heard in this bit here about the head coach, gyda Dylan, rydyn ni'n gweld mwy o gwahanol ysbytai, felly rydyn ni wedi clywed yma yma ynghylch y
[37:47.520 -> 37:51.920] cofrestr cyfansoddwr, y ffyrdd y mae'r ffynonell yn sefydlu'r ddylunio ar gyfer y dylunio, ac yna rydyn ni'n clywed y chwaraewyr
[37:51.920 -> 37:57.040] sy'n ei ddewis ac yn ei ddefnyddio. Ac rwy'n credu mai hwn yw pwysicrwydd iawn,
[37:57.040 -> 38:02.560] pan fyddem yn siarad am ddylunio, gallai fod yn ddangos cymhwysol, gymhwysol, ond rwy'n credu y mae angen i ni
[38:02.560 -> 38:08.720] ddod allan o'r syniad y mae dyluniadau yn dda, neun barhau, yn toxic, neu'n cyffredin. Rwy'n credu bod
[38:08.720 -> 38:12.640] ffyrdd o diwydiant ac y mae'r ymchwil yn dweud wrthym
[38:12.640 -> 38:16.240] y ffyrdd o diwydiant mwy cyflogol yw'r hyn rydyn ni'n ei gynnal yn gyfeirio diwydiantau
[38:16.240 -> 38:19.360] ac mae hynny'n lle rydych chi'n cael ymdrechion yn ddefnyddio'r gwirionedd
[38:19.360 -> 38:22.400] ac ymdrechion yn ddefnyddio'r gwirionedd o'r misiwn
[38:22.400 -> 38:26.540] lle rydyn ni'n mynd. Ac rwy'n credu, y gweithgaredd o clearly defined sense of mission, where we're heading. And I think, you know, the example of England rugby
[38:26.540 -> 38:29.040] through whether it was Clive's tenure
[38:29.040 -> 38:33.880] or the current set up is, our mission is to win the World Cup
[38:33.880 -> 38:36.160] but the behaviours that are how we're going to get there
[38:36.160 -> 38:38.760] start to help us understand that's the culture,
[38:38.760 -> 38:41.600] they're the standards that people have to buy into.
[38:41.600 -> 38:44.280] And I think it's definitely worth us reiterating
[38:44.280 -> 38:45.800] that even when you're on the climb stage
[38:45.800 -> 38:47.840] and you've created a great culture,
[38:47.840 -> 38:50.320] don't then think that suddenly everything becomes easy.
[38:50.320 -> 38:53.720] I think it's probably worth pointing out, Damien,
[38:53.720 -> 38:56.000] that the people who've joined us on the podcast,
[38:56.000 -> 38:58.880] some of them have been, you know, early in their career,
[38:58.880 -> 39:00.800] someone like Tom Daley, who's now competing,
[39:00.800 -> 39:04.080] others, their career as they knew it previously had ended,
[39:04.080 -> 39:06.200] a Rio Ferdinand or a Robin Van Persie,
[39:06.200 -> 39:08.740] you can no longer kick a football anymore.
[39:08.740 -> 39:11.840] Others like Sir Clive Woodward or Mauricio Pochettino
[39:11.840 -> 39:14.540] or Olly Gunnar Solskjaer, they're older,
[39:14.540 -> 39:17.520] but they're still fully engaged in creating cultures
[39:17.520 -> 39:19.100] at the moment.
[39:19.100 -> 39:22.940] I think it's just vital we say that no matter what stage
[39:22.940 -> 39:25.160] anyone who's joined us is at, the
[39:25.160 -> 39:29.560] fight and the struggle is always there. Yeah definitely Jake I think you're
[39:29.560 -> 39:32.800] absolutely right and I think it's a powerful point that you're making here
[39:32.800 -> 39:37.440] that that that there's no end point to this. I think there's an arrival stage
[39:37.440 -> 39:43.040] which is the fifth bit where you take moment to pause to celebrate and
[39:43.040 -> 39:45.000] acknowledge your successes.
[39:45.240 -> 39:47.080] But that's not the end point.
[39:47.080 -> 39:49.840] That's where you simply acknowledge it
[39:49.840 -> 39:51.080] and then start to plan again.
[39:51.080 -> 39:53.840] You go back to stage one, which is you start to dream again.
[39:53.840 -> 39:54.920] What's next?
[39:54.920 -> 39:58.040] Where are we going to based on this next stage
[39:58.040 -> 39:58.880] of the mountain?
[39:58.880 -> 39:59.700] Okay.
[39:59.700 -> 40:04.600] So then we, we arrive or do we ever actually arrive Damien?
[40:04.600 -> 40:06.280] As I say, I think it's that moment
[40:06.280 -> 40:09.160] where you take pause to celebrate.
[40:09.160 -> 40:11.280] I think the moment of the celebration
[40:11.280 -> 40:13.320] or an acknowledgement of what you've achieved
[40:13.320 -> 40:15.200] is really important, I think,
[40:15.200 -> 40:19.560] because it allows you to draw an end to that stage
[40:19.560 -> 40:21.320] before you start to plan again
[40:21.320 -> 40:27.120] and the whole process just regenerates itself. So I think you have a look at cultures i'r gweithredu'n newydd, ac mae'r holl broses yn ei gynhyrchu. Felly rwy'n credu y byddwch chi'n edrych ar
[40:28.560 -> 40:33.520] ddiwylliannau sy'n ddim yn cyd-drethu eu hunain, tîmau sy'n efallai yn ffyrdd yn ffyrdd ddau
[40:33.520 -> 40:39.040] o'r amser, ac yr hyn y byddwch chi'n ei gael ei ddod o'i gael yw nad ydyn nhw'n eu newid eu hunain. Mae yna'r ffrase
[40:39.040 -> 40:42.560] pan ydych chi ar y ddechrau o'r ffyrdd, mae angen i chi ddechrau edrych ar y ffyrdd nesaf i
[40:42.560 -> 41:07.000] gynhyrchu, ac rwy'n credu yw tîmau syn ymdrech ar eu hunain yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ych rhaid cyflwyno ar y diwedd. Byddwch yn clywed Steff Horton, y captain ffwrddwr ffwrddwr Cymru,
[41:07.000 -> 41:10.320] yn siarad am bwysigrwydd profiadau.
[41:10.320 -> 41:12.800] Ac yna, mae'r actor Hollywood Matthew McConaughey
[41:12.800 -> 41:15.120] yn dweud eto nad oes un ar hyn o bryd.
[41:16.640 -> 41:25.280] Roedd hynny'n dyn yn ystod i mi dweud, iawn, you've prepared well, your family's all coming
[41:25.280 -> 41:29.840] down from the northeast to come and see you play, we're doing something after the game, whether we
[41:29.840 -> 41:34.480] win or lose. I was like, right, okay, I kind of relaxed a little bit more, which is probably one
[41:34.480 -> 41:38.560] of the first times I've ever really done that. And I was like, I actually enjoyed the whole
[41:38.560 -> 41:46.000] experience a little bit more. I think we're all chasing yet. And if we realize that we never are going to arrive,
[41:46.000 -> 41:48.000] that's the point.
[41:48.000 -> 41:51.000] There is no yet. It's always yet.
[41:51.000 -> 41:53.000] And then if we can go,
[41:53.000 -> 41:56.000] ah, life's a verb.
[41:56.000 -> 41:57.000] It's the process.
[41:57.000 -> 41:59.000] Shit, that's as good as it gets.
[41:59.000 -> 42:00.000] All right, I'm in.
[42:00.000 -> 42:03.000] Life's a verb.
[42:03.000 -> 42:06.520] By the way, the energy that man brought to this podcast is something that is going to
[42:06.520 -> 42:07.520] live with me forever more.
[42:07.520 -> 42:11.840] You know, when we recorded that, Harriet was down on the floor of the study making notes.
[42:11.840 -> 42:12.840] She just got out of the shower.
[42:12.840 -> 42:18.440] I was so tempted to get the computer on FaceTime or Zoom, whatever we were using and say, Matthew,
[42:18.440 -> 42:20.480] there's my wife on the floor.
[42:20.480 -> 42:29.020] But I think this is the most important message We're going to give people today and I think it's the perfect way for this five stages of successful change to end
[42:29.340 -> 42:32.560] Is that if you are waiting for that moment where you go? Oh
[42:34.160 -> 42:40.400] I've done it then you are going to be waiting for a long time because every single person we've spoken to that
[42:40.840 -> 42:48.920] Moment doesn't arrive Tyrone Mings was great talking about the fact that there is no arrival, but that's why whatever it is
[42:48.920 -> 42:50.680] that people dream at the beginning,
[42:50.680 -> 42:51.720] before they take the leap
[42:51.720 -> 42:53.680] and they start fighting and climbing,
[42:53.680 -> 42:54.960] it's gotta be something they love.
[42:54.960 -> 42:57.000] Cause if it's not something that you love,
[42:57.000 -> 42:59.800] if you're only doing it for the arrival,
[42:59.800 -> 43:01.760] then you're gonna have a difficult time ahead.
[43:01.760 -> 43:04.000] Definitely, I think it goes back to that idea
[43:04.000 -> 43:08.320] that if you're only judging it on the outcomes, a byddwch chi'n cael amser anodd ymlaen. Yn siŵr. Rwy'n credu ei fod yn mynd yn ôl i'r syniad hwn yw os ydych chi'n cyfrifio ar yr oergell
[43:08.320 -> 43:11.280] y proses a'r hyn rydych chi'n dysgu o'i gilydd
[43:11.280 -> 43:14.160] nid yw'n eich cyflwyno.
[43:14.160 -> 43:16.320] Rwy'n credu ein bod ni'n cael ei ddysgu
[43:16.320 -> 43:27.780] yn ein cymdeithasol o feddwl yw'n ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwneud â'r ymwon ni yng nghymru, y car y drifon ni, y cais y byddwn ni'n byw. Ac mae'n wir y dylai'r cyfrifoldeb y byddwn ni'n ddysgu ar y broses o ddod yno,
[43:27.780 -> 43:33.280] sy'n rhoi'n ôl i Joseph Campbell, y ffyrdd a ddeunyddodd y cyfnodau hwnnw,
[43:33.280 -> 43:34.280] a'u siarad amdanyn nhw.
[43:34.280 -> 43:39.240] Mae'n ymwneud â'r ffordd y gallwch chi fynd yn ôl i'r le y dechreuwch chi ar y cyfnod o arddangosfa,
[43:39.240 -> 43:40.740] ond rydych chi'n wahanol o rai.
[43:40.740 -> 43:42.640] Mae'r newid wedi digwydd yn y ddins,
[43:42.640 -> 43:45.280] mae'n yr hyn rydych chi wedi dysgu, yw'r person rydych chi'n mynd i'r ffordd hwnnw somehow. The change has happened internally. It's what you've learned is the person you've become
[43:50.000 -> 43:55.440] on that journey that really defines what success and high performance is. It's a brilliant way to end. Damien, it's been so nice to sit here for the last 45 minutes or so
[43:55.440 -> 44:00.160] and just look back on that. And I really hope that for you at home, if you haven't heard those full
[44:00.160 -> 44:07.680] interviews with the guests that we've just shared the little clips from feel free to go back and do it but I just hope that it makes you realize that
[44:07.680 -> 44:11.880] anyone can dream everyone at some point in their life should take a leap and
[44:11.880 -> 44:15.560] then you have to expect the fight and the climb but please don't live your
[44:15.560 -> 44:19.740] life thinking I can't wait till I get to the point where I'm going to be happy
[44:19.740 -> 44:28.000] because the journey the life is what should make you happy. Just to reiterate the words of Matthew McConaughey, there is no yet.
[44:28.880 -> 44:32.080] Right, we're done. That's series three, Damien. All wrapped up.
[44:32.080 -> 44:33.440] I know. It's flown by, hasn't it?
[44:33.440 -> 44:34.320] Yeah.
[44:34.320 -> 44:35.280] I've loved it.
[44:35.280 -> 44:37.760] You know what, when you look back on that and you think, you know, chatting to
[44:37.760 -> 44:40.720] Sia or Matthew in our studies because we couldn't travel at the time,
[44:40.720 -> 44:49.600] or popping up to Liverpool and talking to Stephen Gerrard, being in Manchester and Steph Horton coming and joining us, having a drink in Sir Clive Woodward's garden. It's like,
[44:50.400 -> 44:54.800] man, I'm learning as much as the people listening to these pods, there's no question.
[44:54.800 -> 44:58.720] Steve Martin Yeah, me too. And I think that I keep having
[44:58.720 -> 45:10.640] to remind myself as we're doing it that just to appreciate the moment, living the moment with it and just recognize that how lucky we are to be able to talk to these people that are
[45:10.640 -> 45:15.320] giving themselves so generously and sharing their insights that it just
[45:15.320 -> 45:18.880] feels like a real privilege to be present for this and then to be able to
[45:18.880 -> 45:23.360] share it so widely. And how lucky we are Damien to have you along for the journey.
[45:23.360 -> 45:28.320] I've asked you this at the end of every series you've always said yes let's hope you continue to do so. Will you come
[45:28.320 -> 45:34.480] back for series four? Absolutely I love it Jake yeah I love it and I appreciate the invitation to
[45:34.480 -> 45:39.520] be asked so thank you. No worries well look put this in your diary okay the 8th of February is
[45:39.520 -> 45:45.000] the first episode of series four of the high performance podcast.
[45:45.040 -> 45:46.800] We'd love you to come along for the ride.
[45:46.800 -> 45:49.200] At this point, I want to say a huge thanks to Will,
[45:49.200 -> 45:51.960] to Hannah, to Finn, to Sophie, to Tom,
[45:51.960 -> 45:54.880] who've all been involved in creating the podcast.
[45:54.880 -> 45:58.080] Big thanks as well to Lotus Cars from Damien and myself.
[45:58.080 -> 46:00.380] We totally understand and we are well aware
[46:00.380 -> 46:01.860] that without them at the beginning,
[46:01.860 -> 46:03.560] we wouldn't be where we are now.
[46:03.560 -> 46:08.560] But most of all, thank you to you. Thank you for the millions of downloads. Thank you for
[46:08.560 -> 46:11.960] the ratings. Thank you for the reviews. Thank you for talking about the podcast,
[46:11.960 -> 46:15.400] sharing the podcast. Thank you to the teachers who've given to their students.
[46:15.400 -> 46:18.680] Thank you for the leaders in business who are creating workshops and groups.
[46:18.680 -> 46:22.120] Thank you to the people that have made whatsapp groups where they talk about
[46:22.120 -> 46:29.000] the podcast. All of those conversations we know is the energy that keeps driving us on to the next stage.
[46:29.000 -> 46:34.000] So we're going to be gone for a few weeks, but in the meantime, we will continue to be around on Instagram.
[46:34.000 -> 46:37.000] We're going to keep on doing Instagram Lives, particularly during this shutdown.
[46:37.000 -> 46:39.000] You can also find us on YouTube as well.
[46:39.000 -> 46:45.080] Just take a look for the High Performance Podcast on YouTube and come and join the many people who are not just listening to,
[46:45.080 -> 46:47.940] but also watching the high performance interviews.
[46:47.940 -> 46:51.400] Thank you so, so much for being part of the journey so far.
[46:51.400 -> 46:55.200] See you for series four in February, 2021,
[46:55.200 -> 46:58.280] but for now, continue living and chasing
[46:58.280 -> 47:19.000] that high performance life. 🎵