Podcast: The High Performance
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Mon, 10 Oct 2022 00:00:55 GMT
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Today is #WorldMentalHealthDay and so we are releasing a special episode where Jake, Damian and our guest, Danny Gray, get vulnerable about their mental health. It is so important to have open and honest conversations with those around us about mental health.
Danny Gray, is founder of the mental health social media platform JAAQ and the pioneering men's makeup brand War Paint For Men. JAAQ offers reliable information on mental health issues from experts and credible sources. War Paint and JAAQ were both founded due to Danny’s experiences with body dysmorphia, which began in his teenage years. In this episode they dive deep into Danny’s struggles with mental health, how they have shaped his career, relationships and the person he is today.
JAAQ (Just Ask A Question) is the new mental health social media platform launching on November 24th, designed to give you the right information from the right people in a way that has never been done before. For more information please go to: www.jaaq.org
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[00:00.000 -> 00:04.080] Please be aware this episode contains content that some listeners may find disturbing.
[00:05.280 -> 00:11.160] Hi there, I'm Jay Comfrey and you're listening to a very special episode of the High Performance podcast.
[00:11.200 -> 00:16.960] This episode is being released globally on the 10th of October, which is World Mental Health Day.
[00:17.480 -> 00:24.400] And you know by now that this podcast exists to remind you that your ambition, your purpose, your story is all within.
[00:25.000 -> 00:30.000] to remind you that your ambition, your purpose, your story is all within. We're just here to help unlock it by turning the lived experiences of the planet's highest performers
[00:30.000 -> 00:32.000] into your life lessons.
[00:32.000 -> 00:38.000] But this podcast also exists to normalize the conversation around mental health.
[00:38.000 -> 00:41.000] Quite a few times, my wife Harriet said,
[00:41.000 -> 00:44.000] are you talking about my anxiety on high performance again?
[00:44.000 -> 00:48.600] And yes, I have. And yes, I will continue to do so. I've discussed the issues that
[00:48.600 -> 00:53.480] my daughter Florence has experienced since the COVID pandemic. And for full
[00:53.480 -> 01:00.040] disclosure, when I left home and got a job on Children's BBC in the UK in 2001,
[01:00.040 -> 01:07.300] I had a serious mental health episode. I lost a lot of weight. I genuinely thought that it was game over for me
[01:07.300 -> 01:13.560] I went into an incredibly dark place and the worst thing of all is that it lasted a long time
[01:14.000 -> 01:20.000] Because I didn't know what to do the conversation around mental health wasn't normalized and now it needs to be
[01:20.580 -> 01:27.000] Because if you are listening to this episode and things are a struggle for you either now or they have been in the past then you are not alone.
[01:27.000 -> 01:32.000] One in four of us will suffer with a mental health issue in our lifetime.
[01:32.000 -> 01:38.000] 792 million people on the planet are struggling with issues around their mental health.
[01:38.000 -> 01:48.240] In just the last couple of weeks we've recorded episodes that haven't been released yet with a current rugby player, possibly the most famous boxer on the planet, and one of the most successful
[01:48.240 -> 01:53.760] gymnasts that we've ever seen. All of them needing therapy, all of them
[01:53.760 -> 01:59.280] struggling with their mental health. This is an ongoing global pandemic and on
[01:59.280 -> 02:04.680] World Mental Health Day we must realize that it needs to be a global priority.
[02:04.680 -> 02:06.620] So today on World Mental
[02:06.620 -> 02:12.560] Health Day, we welcome to the High Performance Podcast, an entrepreneur on a mission to fix
[02:12.560 -> 02:16.480] mental health. This week, we welcome Danny Gray.
[02:16.480 -> 02:22.320] I've got body dysmorphia. So BDD, body dysmorphic disorder, which is a mental health condition
[02:22.320 -> 02:26.160] where you're obsessed about the way you look. Still affects me today but I had it then but I didn't
[02:26.160 -> 02:30.280] know. 12 years old, middle school, on school playground, four boys took the
[02:30.280 -> 02:35.120] mick out of my ears, started flapping their ears. That had a massive impact on me. So much so
[02:35.120 -> 02:40.280] being 12, within three, four months I may have been back on the NHS. I woke my
[02:40.280 -> 02:44.240] mother-in-law up of all people at four o'clock in the morning, like not in a
[02:44.240 -> 02:45.000] good place.
[02:45.000 -> 02:46.840] No one actually knows how bad it is in my head.
[02:46.840 -> 02:49.800] They knew it was bad, but I said I can't deal with it anymore.
[02:51.880 -> 02:53.880] But when I was listening to those arguments,
[02:53.880 -> 02:55.800] I could remember lying in bed, right?
[02:55.800 -> 02:57.600] I'd lie there and I could hear it getting louder
[02:57.600 -> 02:59.240] and then you know what's coming.
[02:59.240 -> 03:01.400] You know what's coming every time.
[03:01.400 -> 03:03.920] Well, it starts like you just hear it and then it's getting louder and that,
[03:03.920 -> 03:06.000] and then you know what's gonna happen.
[03:07.080 -> 03:07.920] I've never really talked about it,
[03:07.920 -> 03:09.520] like a lot of people don't know about it,
[03:09.520 -> 03:12.440] like a lot of people, but when I look back now,
[03:12.440 -> 03:13.960] it's fucking mad, right?
[03:13.960 -> 03:16.920] It's actually ridiculous that that happened.
[03:16.920 -> 03:19.520] Like, I don't know how much it's affecting me,
[03:19.520 -> 03:22.640] but I know for one thing, I didn't talk about it.
[03:22.640 -> 03:25.880] I'm telling you now, young people, the way it's educated
[03:25.880 -> 03:28.960] at the minute mental health, it isn't going to get through.
[03:28.960 -> 03:35.080] Okay, so as you heard there, this was a really, well, it was a hard conversation at times.
[03:35.080 -> 03:40.000] It was an incredibly emotional conversation throughout for myself and Professor Damien
[03:40.000 -> 03:44.320] Hughes. And before we get into it, there's only one point I really want to make, right.
[03:44.320 -> 03:48.280] And that is, if you are currently struggling with your mental health, then you are not
[03:48.280 -> 03:54.120] weak. You are the opposite of weak. Because when you're struggling, when you sometimes
[03:54.120 -> 03:59.820] find the simplest of daily tasks hard, when you're living your life, but you're wracked
[03:59.820 -> 04:06.800] with doubt, and anxiety, and fear so bad that sometimes it can paralyze you, but you still
[04:06.800 -> 04:12.560] push through and you still wake up tomorrow. That is the opposite of weak. People who struggle
[04:12.560 -> 04:16.120] with their mental health are the strongest people on this planet because they need to
[04:16.120 -> 04:22.360] delve into the deepest reserves of resilience every single day. And I would encourage you
[04:22.360 -> 04:31.160] to listen to this whole episode. Please, please pass it on. So here we go on World Mental Health Day. It's the high performance podcast
[04:31.160 -> 04:38.360] with the incredible Danny Gray.
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[04:52.000 -> 04:58.000] LinkedIn has the targeting capabilities to help you reach the world's largest professional audience.
[04:58.000 -> 05:02.000] That's right. Over 70 million decision makers all in one place.
[05:02.000 -> 05:04.000] All the big wigs and medium wigs.
[05:04.000 -> 05:05.060] Also small wigs who are on the path to becoming big wigs. the big wigs and medium wigs.
[05:05.060 -> 05:07.920] Also small wigs who are on the path to becoming big wigs.
[05:07.920 -> 05:10.000] Okay, that's enough about wigs.
[05:10.000 -> 05:14.440] LinkedIn ads allows you to focus on getting your B2B message to the right people.
[05:14.440 -> 05:19.580] So does that mean you should use ads on LinkedIn instead of hiring me, the man with the deepest
[05:19.580 -> 05:21.000] voice in the world?
[05:21.000 -> 05:23.180] Yes, yes it does.
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[07:18.320 -> 07:24.440] Well, Danny, welcome and thank you very much for doing this.
[07:24.440 -> 07:25.440] Absolute pleasure.
[07:25.440 -> 07:26.440] Thanks for having me on.
[07:26.440 -> 07:27.440] We appreciate it.
[07:27.440 -> 07:31.240] Let's start with what is high performance for you personally?
[07:31.240 -> 07:36.360] High performance for me is more about consistency.
[07:36.360 -> 07:41.040] I think everyone can have levels or moments of absolute high performance, right?
[07:41.040 -> 07:44.720] If that's in sport, business or anything in life, right?
[07:44.720 -> 07:48.160] You do something really, really well in your job or a moment of high performance. yw'r perfformiad mwyaf, os yw'n ymdrech i'r sport, y busnes, neu unrhyw beth mewn bywyd, rydych chi'n gwneud rhywbeth yn wir iawn yn eich swydd neu yn unrhyw moment o perfformiad mwyaf,
[07:48.160 -> 07:51.920] ond i mi, mae'n ymwneud â bod rhywun yn ddiogel iawn.
[07:52.560 -> 07:56.560] Rydych chi'n gwybod, diogel, mewn pob ffordd o fywyd, rwy'n credu os ydych chi'n ddiogel iawn
[07:57.200 -> 08:00.400] a chynigio ar un lefel diogel, mae'n anodd i'w wneud.
[08:01.120 -> 08:03.920] Ac wrth gwrs, gallwch chi fod yn ddiogel a'n ddiogel, ond bod yn diogel
[08:03.920 -> 08:07.280] pan fydd pawb yn gwybod pan ydych chi, dy everyone knows where you are, that for me is high performance. Like being a dad, right?
[08:07.280 -> 08:12.040] If your kids know when you're coming home, what to expect, consistency, that for me is
[08:12.040 -> 08:16.480] high performance. Brilliant. And I'm so interested to talk about your brand Warpaint to begin
[08:16.480 -> 08:22.360] this conversation because nobody was doing this. Nobody was creating makeup for men,
[08:22.360 -> 08:26.000] right? So you've got to be consistent, but then you've got to have the big ideas. And ac roedd yn creu gwybodaeth ar gyfer dynion. Felly mae'n rhaid i chi fod yn cydweithiol, ond mae'n rhaid i chi gael y pethau gwych.
[08:26.000 -> 08:28.000] Ac ar gyfer yr holl ddysgwyr sy'n clywed hyn,
[08:28.000 -> 08:30.000] byddwn yn hoffi gwybod
[08:30.000 -> 08:32.000] ddod o'ch syniadau.
[08:32.000 -> 08:34.000] Fy nghyffredin. Rwy'n credu
[08:34.000 -> 08:35.000] bod llawer o bobl yn ymdrech ar yr hyn
[08:35.000 -> 08:37.000] y mae'r cyffredin yn ei ddweud.
[08:37.000 -> 08:39.000] Ond mae'r pethau gwych weithiau
[08:39.000 -> 08:41.000] yn y pethau a allai eu cymryd
[08:41.000 -> 08:43.000] mewn un ffordd neu'n ail,
[08:43.000 -> 08:47.000] neu'n gweithio neu dim. Ac mae hynny'n bob amser yn risk. I mi, mae'n bob amser pan mae fy nghyfrain yn dweud i mi
[08:47.000 -> 08:48.080] gwneud rhywbeth, even os yw pobl yn dweud,
[08:48.080 -> 08:49.160] na, dwi ddim yn meddwl ei fod yn gweithio.
[08:49.160 -> 08:51.280] Os yw fy nghyfrain, ie, mae'n iawn,
[08:51.280 -> 08:52.120] yna gwnewch hi.
[08:52.120 -> 08:53.360] A oedd rhywun yn dweud wrthym,
[08:53.360 -> 08:54.160] o'i gofyn i mi,
[08:54.160 -> 08:55.000] beth yw eich teimlad teimlad?
[08:55.000 -> 08:55.840] Beth ydych chi'n golygu ar hynny?
[08:55.840 -> 08:56.760] Ac rwy'n dweud,
[08:56.760 -> 08:58.280] os oes gen i syniad mewn busnes,
[08:58.280 -> 08:59.120] neu beth bynnag,
[08:59.120 -> 09:00.200] ac roedd fy nghyfrain yn dweud i mi
[09:00.200 -> 09:01.040] gwneud rhywbeth,
[09:01.040 -> 09:01.880] dwi ddim yn gwneud.
[09:01.880 -> 09:02.920] Ac yna ddweodd rhywun i mewn ac wnaeth,
[09:02.920 -> 09:05.280] a dwi'n gwneud ychydig o'r bucet a'i gynnal. I chi'n gwybod, dyna i mi yw'r teimlad teimlad, fel peth, os oes rhywun arall wedi'i wneud, ac nid ydw i, ac yna ddwedd rhywun i mewn ac wnaeth, byddwn yn cael bucet a'i gweithio.
[09:05.280 -> 09:09.680] Dwi'n teimlo'r got, fel arall, os oedd rhywun arall yn ei wneud cyn i ti,
[09:09.680 -> 09:13.760] pa mor ddiddordeb y byddwch chi'n teimlo? Felly mae'r syniadau mwyaf i mi
[09:13.760 -> 09:16.800] yn dod, ac yna mae'r got yn dweud i mi a y byddwn i'n rhaid i mi ymlaen gyda nhw, yn wir.
[09:16.800 -> 09:21.360] Ond gadewch i ni ddod o'r ffordd i'r gynllun ychydig o ddetail, Dan,
[09:21.360 -> 09:24.720] oherwydd rwy'n credu bod hynny'n ddiddordeb iawn, mae llawer o bobl yn cael ychydig o ddyn.
[09:24.720 -> 09:26.000] Ond i ddryso'r syniad, beth mae'n eind i'r deunydd granular, Dan, oherwydd rwy'n credu bod hynny'n ddiddorol iawn. Mae llawer o bobl yn cael ddiddorol,
[09:26.000 -> 09:28.000] ond i ddysgu beth mae'n ei wneud,
[09:28.000 -> 09:30.000] a allwch chi ei ddweud yn fwy o ddewis i ni?
[09:30.000 -> 09:32.000] Iawn, dwi'n mynd i siarad am Warpaint,
[09:32.000 -> 09:34.000] i'r dechrau hwn,
[09:34.000 -> 09:36.000] a oedd hwn bob amser yn teimlo'n gynllun.
[09:36.000 -> 09:38.000] Ond sut mae'r teimlo'n gynllun hwnnw.
[09:38.000 -> 09:40.000] Felly roeddwn i bob amser eisiau creu
[09:40.000 -> 09:42.000] un o'r band meddwl am ychydig mlynedd
[09:42.000 -> 09:44.000] ac roeddwn i'n siarad amdano,
[09:44.000 -> 09:46.200] roeddwn i'n deall beth roedd angen ar y band hwn ac roeddwn i'n cwmni, around for the last 20 years and been talking about it and talking about it, I had an idea of what I thought this brand needed to be and what, because I was the customer, right?
[09:46.200 -> 09:51.440] So what would appeal to me? What would I find that I'd be comfortable with or that would
[09:51.440 -> 09:55.560] definitely appeal to me as a guy? And I kept seeing other brands trying to do it on a very
[09:55.560 -> 09:59.480] smaller scale. I was thinking, well, that's not right. I'll do it like this. And then
[09:59.480 -> 10:05.760] from that feeling, that's when my gut would arrive, right? So I'd see patterns, as you say, or
[10:05.760 -> 10:08.920] what people were doing, saying, well, they're not doing it right. I know if I did it this
[10:08.920 -> 10:09.920] way, and gut feeling...
[10:09.920 -> 10:10.920] And what did right look like to you?
[10:10.920 -> 10:15.000] So just quickly, why I started wallpainting, when I was 12 years old, my ears used to be
[10:15.000 -> 10:20.480] right angles to my head. So they were that bad, my mum wouldn't let me go outside when
[10:20.480 -> 10:23.480] it was windy. That's a joke, by the way.
[10:23.480 -> 10:25.000] Good. I thought I'm questioning your parenting at that point. No, no, no. I'm actually, I'll make a joke out of it now, because it's just my way of oedd yn ddiddorol. Dyna'r ddiagon, ar ôl i. Dyna'r ddiagon, ar ôl i. Dyna'r ddiagon, ar ôl i.
[10:25.000 -> 10:26.000] Dyna'r ddiagon, ar ôl i.
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[10:44.000 -> 10:45.000] Dyna'r ddiagon, ar ôl i. Dyna'r ddiagon, ar ôl i. Dyna'r ddiagon, ar ôl i. Dyna'r ddiagon, ar ô ar i mi. Yn y byd 12, o ran ychydig,
[10:45.000 -> 10:47.000] roeddwn i'n gallu bod yn ôl ar y DU.
[10:47.000 -> 10:50.000] Felly dyma'r llwybr i mi o'r aml sydd wedi effeithio ar i mi,
[10:50.000 -> 10:52.000] oherwydd roedd fy mam wedi'i gysylltu i hynny ddod.
[10:52.000 -> 10:54.000] A oeddwch chi'n meddwl, ac rwy'n gwybod nad yw'n ddiddorol
[10:54.000 -> 10:56.000] i'w arwyddo'r pethau hyn,
[10:56.000 -> 10:58.000] a oeddwch chi'n meddwl, pan dweud yw roedd y peth hwnnw
[10:58.000 -> 10:59.000] wedi effeithio ar i mi,
[10:59.000 -> 11:01.000] a oedd e'n mynd i'w ddweud
[11:01.000 -> 11:03.000] y byddai'n ddiddorol i chi?
[11:03.000 -> 11:04.000] Yn unol, fel dweud,
[11:04.000 -> 11:27.500] dydw i ddim yn cael broblem yng nghyfraith y byd, roeddwn i'n captain o'nd, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gwbl, mae'n dweud, o gw every day. I thought about it, grew my hair in front of my ears and then got my ear spin back at 12 but it didn't fix the issue right because then all of a
[11:27.500 -> 11:34.480] sudden your brains into this psyche so growing up to 15, 16 I started getting spots
[11:34.480 -> 11:38.840] not acne, not severe or anything like that but for me it was a huge issue.
[11:38.840 -> 11:44.520] Turned to my sister I said and she literally gave me a concealer put it on
[11:44.520 -> 11:45.000] I couldn't believe what product could do. I couldn't believe how simple it was and ac roedd e'n dweud, a gafodd e i mi ddod i'r cwmni, a gafodd e i mi ddod i'r cwmni,
[11:45.000 -> 11:46.000] a gafodd e i mi ddod i'r cwmni,
[11:46.000 -> 11:47.000] a gafodd e i mi ddod i'r cwmni,
[11:47.000 -> 11:48.000] a gafodd e i mi ddod i'r cwmni,
[11:48.000 -> 11:49.000] a gafodd e i mi ddod i'r cwmni,
[11:49.000 -> 11:50.000] a gafodd e i mi ddod i'r cwmni,
[11:50.000 -> 11:51.000] a gafodd e i mi ddod i'r cwmni,
[11:51.000 -> 11:52.000] a gafodd e i mi ddod i'r cwmni,
[11:52.000 -> 11:53.000] a gafodd e i mi ddod i'r cwmni,
[11:53.000 -> 11:54.000] a gafodd e i mi ddod i'r cwmni,
[11:54.000 -> 11:55.000] a gafodd e i mi ddod i'r cwmni,
[11:55.000 -> 11:56.000] a gafodd e i mi ddod i'r cwmni,
[11:56.000 -> 11:57.000] a gafodd e i mi ddod i'r cwmni,
[11:57.000 -> 11:58.000] a gafodd e i mi ddod i'r cwmni,
[11:58.000 -> 11:59.000] a gafodd e i mi ddod i'r cwmni,
[11:59.000 -> 12:00.000] a gafodd e i mewn i'r cwmni,
[12:00.000 -> 12:01.000] a gafodd e i mewn i'r cwmni,
[12:01.000 -> 12:02.000] a gafodd e i mewn i'r cwmni,
[12:02.000 -> 12:03.000] a gafodd e i mewn i'r cwmni,
[12:03.000 -> 12:06.000] a gafodd e i mewn i'n gwybod na fyddwn i'n rhaid i mi bod yn gobeithio am fy nghyfnod. Rydw i wedi cael dysmorfiad byd, felly BDD, dysmorfiad byd,
[12:06.000 -> 12:08.000] sy'n sefydliad iechyd mentol lle rydyn ni'n bwysig am sut rydyn ni'n edrych.
[12:08.000 -> 12:10.000] Mae'n dal i mi fynd heddiw, ond roeddwn i'n cael yn ymlaen, ond dydw i ddim yn gwybod.
[12:10.000 -> 12:12.000] Felly roedd gennych chi
[12:12.000 -> 12:14.000] yn ystod y blaenoriaethau hynny
[12:14.000 -> 12:16.000] yn y pêl-gwyr?
[12:16.000 -> 12:18.000] Oedd hynny'n trigger
[12:18.000 -> 12:20.000] ar gyfer dysmorfiad byd?
[12:20.000 -> 12:22.000] I mi, roedd hynny'n trigger,
[12:22.000 -> 12:24.000] ond dydw i ddim yn meddwl am sut roeddwn i'n edrych
[12:24.000 -> 12:26.560] neu pethau fel, oh, mae'n gofyn i ffri stuff like that. I always had girlfriends and stuff like that, but never I was like,
[12:26.560 -> 12:31.360] oh I'm really good looking or I'm not. And then from that moment I just started worrying about
[12:31.360 -> 12:36.640] my appearance. So for me that did definitely trigger it. But then 15, 16, obviously using
[12:36.640 -> 12:41.600] makeup, use it for the next 20 years. So I've been wearing it today, right? And Damian even said
[12:41.600 -> 12:47.640] before, what we met before on here, he said, are you wearing it wearing it now and that was the thing for me I wanted to create a brand when
[12:47.640 -> 12:50.320] no one knew I was wearing it because it's for me not for anyone else so I've been wearing
[12:50.320 -> 12:56.080] makeup for 20 years however got to about 20, 21, 22 going out a lot the problem
[12:56.080 -> 13:00.160] would move to other things so this is a very common trait for body dysmorphia
[13:00.160 -> 13:04.760] that you can obsess about one thing sort of find a fix for it you can use tools
[13:04.760 -> 13:09.240] but you shouldn't depend on them which I I was doing. So we used makeup, then I was
[13:09.240 -> 13:15.080] worried about my hair, clothes, so much so, so got to about 27, 28, I thought I was
[13:15.080 -> 13:19.760] losing my hair and, like, you can probably see. Good head of hair, bro. Good hair, mate. But
[13:19.760 -> 13:23.080] because my hairline wasn't straight, I can remember getting in the car one day
[13:23.080 -> 13:27.680] after work, I literally looked in the rearview mirror and just here there's a
[13:27.680 -> 13:32.200] gap and I was like oh my god what's that for two years that was it really two
[13:32.200 -> 13:35.640] years every second of it every minute of every day I saw a full about and you
[13:35.640 -> 13:40.720] just said you threw two years away oh god I'll be driving home from work and
[13:40.720 -> 13:43.960] for an hour wouldn't even know I've driven home because I look in a rearview
[13:43.960 -> 13:46.960] mirror so much I was like punching rear-view mirrors off of cars
[13:46.960 -> 13:51.560] because I didn't just it would stop me doing it. And then I would go out drinking
[13:51.560 -> 13:56.640] a lot of drugs and masking it and eventually I did have I had a hair
[13:56.640 -> 14:01.040] transplant at the front and when I went in there the surgeon actually said why
[14:01.040 -> 14:06.000] are you here? So I had a hair transplant when I was 30. I hit crisis right so using ac ymdrechon nhw dweud, o ran y trafodaeth, pan oeddwn yn 30,
[14:06.000 -> 14:08.000] fe wnaethon nhw gael crisis.
[14:08.000 -> 14:10.000] Fe gafodd hynny'n helpu,
[14:10.000 -> 14:12.000] ond fe gafodd hynny'n gweithio'n fwyaf.
[14:12.000 -> 14:14.000] Gallaf ymdrech yno,
[14:14.000 -> 14:16.000] am y peth nesaf.
[14:16.000 -> 14:18.000] Dwi'n mwynhau,
[14:18.000 -> 14:20.000] beth oedd y crwci'n eich hawliau,
[14:20.000 -> 14:22.000] er enghraifft?
[14:22.000 -> 14:24.000] Dweud wrthym beth oedd hynny'n ei wneud i chi teimlo,
[14:24.000 -> 14:29.000] rwy'n gobeithio, roedd yn teimlo'n anodd, ond pa ffyrdd o'r cyfroedd oedd yn ei arwain?
[14:29.000 -> 14:46.440] Mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd. Mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n anodd, mae'n an my mates, right, they would come around and say, well, we're going out tonight. We'll go out at nine o'clock.
[14:46.440 -> 14:47.480] So the cab's coming.
[14:47.480 -> 14:50.720] I'm like, holy shit, cab's coming at nine o'clock.
[14:50.720 -> 14:53.440] For me, time was a nightmare, right?
[14:53.440 -> 14:55.680] Because all of a sudden, I've got time, I've got to be ready.
[14:55.680 -> 14:57.280] So what would happen, my anxiety would build up,
[14:57.280 -> 14:58.760] get changed multiple times.
[14:58.760 -> 15:00.040] And then all the time, I'll come down,
[15:00.040 -> 15:01.320] guys, I'm not ready.
[15:01.320 -> 15:02.720] And they'll be like, all right, well, we'll meet you out.
[15:02.720 -> 15:04.000] A lot of times I won't go out.
[15:04.000 -> 15:05.720] Other times I force myself out. One example, going, all right, we'll meet you out. Lot of times I won't go out. Other times I force myself out.
[15:05.720 -> 15:09.740] One example, going to London, into town to meet the boys,
[15:09.740 -> 15:11.240] got myself, forced myself to get ready,
[15:11.240 -> 15:14.200] didn't feel comfortable, went on the train
[15:14.200 -> 15:16.480] because it was dark, you know,
[15:16.480 -> 15:17.880] it's almost like a mirror, right?
[15:17.880 -> 15:19.560] The windows, I can remember I was just looking like this,
[15:19.560 -> 15:20.800] I looked at myself and I was like,
[15:20.800 -> 15:22.480] oh, my hair's not right.
[15:22.480 -> 15:23.320] And that was it.
[15:23.320 -> 15:25.080] And then the whole train spent it in the mirror.
[15:25.080 -> 15:27.800] Eventually got to the bar, my best mate in the world,
[15:27.800 -> 15:29.920] Obi, came up to me, he knew,
[15:29.920 -> 15:30.960] cause I'm life and soul, right?
[15:30.960 -> 15:31.840] He knew I wasn't right.
[15:31.840 -> 15:33.800] And he was like, mate, you don't have to be here.
[15:33.800 -> 15:35.320] And I was just like, so I went home.
[15:35.320 -> 15:36.960] Eventually, right, so when I did hit crisis
[15:36.960 -> 15:39.560] and everyone was then aware that I've got this thing,
[15:39.560 -> 15:42.320] they knew I had it, but then I spoke about it.
[15:42.320 -> 15:44.320] The difference, right?
[15:44.320 -> 15:49.120] Going out the next time with my mates, and it was just Obi, I said, Obi, I'm struggling, mate. He said,
[15:49.120 -> 15:52.080] Dan, don't worry, I've got a beard, we'll suck with my mum. He said, be as long as you
[15:52.080 -> 15:58.480] want, mate. Don't kiss me, I've got to say. But, do you know what I mean, just by people
[15:58.480 -> 16:07.160] knowing, knowing and understanding the situation, I was like, holy shit. And it just lifted off of me, got ready in 15 minutes.
[16:07.160 -> 16:10.480] And so that's OB, and I'll never forget that,
[16:10.480 -> 16:12.720] but that was, you know, compared to where I was
[16:12.720 -> 16:15.960] to then hitting crisis, and it was at a point,
[16:15.960 -> 16:18.560] you know, I was going out, like, the hair thing,
[16:18.560 -> 16:21.160] I woke my mother-in-law up, of all people,
[16:21.160 -> 16:23.640] at four o'clock in the morning, like, not in a good place,
[16:23.640 -> 16:27.840] because of this hair thing, I was like, no one actually knows how bad it is in my head. They knew it was bad.
[16:27.840 -> 16:32.360] I said I can't deal with it anymore. And that for me was a big
[16:32.360 -> 16:38.320] changing point at about 30 years old. And then war pain was sort of, I was like, no I
[16:38.320 -> 16:41.720] need to do something. So what happened at that moment when you said to your
[16:41.720 -> 16:47.880] mother-in-law, I can't deal with this? Just support me because they all knew I had this thing,
[16:47.880 -> 16:50.680] but no one labelled it, no one said anything.
[16:50.680 -> 16:52.000] And they find it very difficult.
[16:52.000 -> 16:53.560] I always use the analogy of my mum, right?
[16:53.560 -> 16:57.480] When I was 22 years old, getting ready,
[16:57.480 -> 16:59.880] I used to be a nightmare, come down ripping t-shirts off,
[16:59.880 -> 17:01.000] punching holes in walls.
[17:01.000 -> 17:03.440] And my mum at the beginning would be, you look great.
[17:03.440 -> 17:04.920] And I was saying, wouldn't say anything,
[17:04.920 -> 17:06.480] but I'm like, God, mum, you have no idea what's going through my head. the beginning would be like, you look great. And I was saying I wouldn't say anything but in my head I'm like, God mum you have no idea
[17:06.480 -> 17:09.640] what's going through my head, that doesn't help me, right? Eventually she'll be like
[17:09.640 -> 17:14.360] that, just not being able to say anything. And that for me was what everyone was doing
[17:14.360 -> 17:17.600] because you don't know how to react, you haven't got the right information, you don't know
[17:17.600 -> 17:18.600] what to say.
[17:18.600 -> 17:22.680] But I'm sure they think telling you you look great is the answer to feeling you don't look
[17:22.680 -> 17:23.680] great, right?
[17:23.680 -> 17:26.160] 100% mate, and I think that's a natural thing to do
[17:26.160 -> 17:30.620] Yeah, but for me, it's probably the worst thing you could say really yeah a hundred percent because people say oh you look like you
[17:30.620 -> 17:34.640] Always do that's not helping in my hand. That's not helping me. So what should they have said?
[17:35.320 -> 17:37.320] Take your time. Don't rush
[17:37.640 -> 17:39.640] All right, then you don't have to go anywhere
[17:39.720 -> 17:43.000] Right, because the thing is it built anxiety builds up this what mental health is
[17:43.000 -> 17:47.280] All right, a build and build and build and build and build As much you try and mask it will just build till you explode
[17:47.680 -> 17:52.140] So bus if you if you're here, you know, you're not getting ready. You can spot it and then someone says you don't worry
[17:52.480 -> 17:58.120] Take your time. It's okay done. You don't have to do anything. I promise it's it's a you go take a break
[17:58.880 -> 18:03.480] Kirstie my fiance's just been unbelievable. No, she was the one who told me I bought this morphine
[18:03.480 -> 18:06.000] We've been together 11 years and she had a form of it and she told me I was like, I don't know what that is Mae'n ddifrifol. Fe ddweodd hwnna fy nghymryd bod dysmorfia. Roeddwn i'n gysylltu gyda ni i 11 mlynedd.
[18:06.000 -> 18:08.000] Fe wnaeth hwnna ffynnu.
[18:08.000 -> 18:10.000] Fe dweud hwnna, dwi ddim yn gwybod beth yw hwn.
[18:10.000 -> 18:12.000] A pha gwnaethom ni edrych arno?
[18:12.000 -> 18:14.000] Fe wnaethom ni edrych ar bob llwybr.
[18:14.000 -> 18:16.000] I rhai o bobl sy'n clywed hwn,
[18:16.000 -> 18:18.000] a byddwn i'n dod yn y bracket hon,
[18:18.000 -> 18:20.000] dwi ddim yn ymwybodol o'r
[18:20.000 -> 18:22.000] ffynd o dysmorfia.
[18:22.000 -> 18:24.000] A oes gennych chi'n ei ddysgu?
[18:24.000 -> 18:27.120] Yn y manifestatau, achos dweudodd eich bod yn mynd ar wahanol ffyrdd.
[18:27.120 -> 18:32.000] Felly, yw'r dysmorfiadau byd BDD, lle gallwch chi ymddangos
[18:32.000 -> 18:34.800] unrhyw beth ar eich byd, iawn? I'r detaillau anodd,
[18:34.800 -> 18:37.200] o llawer i'r ffaith bod rhywbeth yn perffectio i chi yn enorm,
[18:37.200 -> 18:39.040] yn cymharu ag yr holl bobl, nid ydyn nhw'n ei gweld.
[18:39.040 -> 18:41.280] Gallai hynny fod o'ch nos,
[18:41.280 -> 18:44.080] gall pobl efallai gael hynny o'u ddewis, y caws,
[18:44.080 -> 18:45.680] gallai'n anodd iawn i'r detaill anodd, ond i mi, roedd fy have it about their hands, kneecaps. It can be very severe into
[18:45.680 -> 18:50.280] minute detail, but for me it was my overall appearance, and it's something that manifests
[18:50.280 -> 18:55.840] itself and can obsess into... Everyone's got BDD to a point, alright, about appearance,
[18:55.840 -> 18:59.800] right? But it's to a certain point where it affects your daily life, that's when you have
[18:59.800 -> 19:07.960] like this condition that affects your actual life, and it was affecting my life, so that's y byddai'r condisiwn hwn yn effeithio ar eich bywyd gwirioneddol ac yn effeithio ar fy bywyd. Felly dyna beth yw BDD.
[19:07.960 -> 19:11.280] Ond y cwestiwn rydych chi wedi'i gofyn i mi, a dweud, dwi ddim yn deall,
[19:11.280 -> 19:14.160] mae nifer o bobl ddim yn deall llawer o gondisiwn, oherwydd y mannau o wybodaeth,
[19:14.160 -> 19:16.960] neu cael gael y wybodaeth da o'r ffyrdd da, o'r ffyrdd da, o'r ffyrdd da,
[19:16.960 -> 19:20.320] ac dyna pam rydyn ni'n siarad am y ffordd y gall Jack, rwy'n credu, wneud hynny.
[19:20.320 -> 19:23.920] Gadewch i ni siarad am hyn nawr, ac fe wnawn ni ddod yn ôl a siarad am Warpaint yn ystod.
[19:23.920 -> 19:29.000] Oherwydd rwy'n credu bod angen i'r problem o iechyd mentol,
[19:29.000 -> 19:32.000] eisiau helpu i newid y narratif ar y cyfan,
[19:32.000 -> 19:34.000] newid y sgwrs a'n ymwneud â newid y byd,
[19:34.000 -> 19:36.000] yw rhywbeth yn gwbl iawn.
[19:36.000 -> 19:39.000] Felly, dweud wrthym am Jack.
[19:39.000 -> 19:42.000] Iawn, felly Jack, Walpaint, mae'n grwpio'n dda,
[19:42.000 -> 19:46.000] mae llawer o'r cymdeithas, negatif ac yn fawr yn positif.
[19:46.000 -> 19:48.000] Felly roedd gen i lawer o gofynion.
[19:48.000 -> 19:51.000] Roedd y cwmni yn ymwneud â fy nhwari, y BDD,
[19:51.000 -> 19:54.000] ac roeddwn i'n rhaid i'w ddweud yn y byd,
[19:54.000 -> 19:56.000] ar dragons den,
[19:56.000 -> 19:58.000] beth yw'r lle i'w wneud.
[19:58.000 -> 20:00.000] Roedd y cwmni yn ymwneud â'r bobl sy'n gysylltu â mi,
[20:00.000 -> 20:01.000] yn gofyn cwestiynau.
[20:01.000 -> 20:03.000] Gallai hyn fod yn mamau, dadau,
[20:03.000 -> 20:05.120] pobl o'r holl fforddau byw, a mam gyda'r fyfyr sydd gan y cyffredin, a gofyn y gallwn ni siarad. me questions. So this could be mums, dads, people, all different walks of life, right?
[20:05.120 -> 20:08.720] A mum with her son who's got low confidence, can we just have a chat? So I was doing these
[20:08.720 -> 20:12.880] calls late at night, I was doing Zooms with as many people as I could, and then one girl
[20:12.880 -> 20:17.120] reached out to me on Instagram and said, my boyfriend I've been with for two years, he's
[20:17.120 -> 20:23.040] told me he's got BDD. I didn't know. He's only told me because he's been following your journey
[20:23.040 -> 20:25.840] and he felt comfortable enough to tell me but he's he's in trouble
[20:25.960 -> 20:30.920] Can we please have a quick talk? So I said, of course, so there was a Friday Friday night in my little office at home
[20:31.200 -> 20:36.640] We had a zoom call right and he's in fucking bits. He was like I was right at 28. He's like that
[20:37.840 -> 20:42.480] You can't look I can see the anxiety and she's sat forwards. So anyway
[20:43.200 -> 20:45.920] He's hit crisis to reach out like crisis and the average length of the mental health yn anxietiol, ac mae wedi ymdrech i mewn. Felly, mae wedi cyfrifol i ddod allan fel cyfrifol.
[20:45.920 -> 20:47.880] Ac mae'r cyfrifol ar gyfer iechyd mental
[20:47.880 -> 20:49.480] yn 10 mlynedd, o'r pryd rydych chi'n teimlo rhywbeth
[20:49.480 -> 20:51.040] i'r pryd rydych chi'n dod allan.
[20:51.040 -> 20:53.240] Ac mae'n mynd yn fwy a fwy yn ymdrech.
[20:53.240 -> 20:55.320] Rydych chi'n cyfrifol 10 mlynedd,
[20:55.320 -> 20:57.640] ac rydych chi'n cyfrifol, ac beth sy'n digwydd?
[20:57.640 -> 21:00.320] Pob beth yng nghymdeithas yw'n seiliedig ar gyfrifol.
[21:00.320 -> 21:03.320] Help-line, text-line, call-line, NHS.
[21:03.320 -> 21:04.360] Wrth gwrs, dyna'n rhaid yw bod yno,
[21:04.360 -> 21:06.000] ond pawb yn eisiau cyfrifol. Mae'r cyfrifol yn fwy iawn. Felly, mae'r fyn, NHS. Of course that should be there, but everyone's waiting for crisis.
[21:06.000 -> 21:07.000] Recovery's a lot longer.
[21:07.000 -> 21:10.000] So this guy's hit this crisis, reached out, and he is in bits.
[21:10.000 -> 21:12.000] Went to the NHS, which you would.
[21:12.000 -> 21:14.000] Local GP said, told him, he said,
[21:14.000 -> 21:16.000] you've got something called BDD. I need to refer you.
[21:16.000 -> 21:19.000] This bloke's in crisis, wants to kill himself.
[21:19.000 -> 21:22.000] He alluded to that, but probably didn't tell it to the doctor.
[21:22.000 -> 21:29.560] You've got to wait 36 weeks to see a specialist. Right? And I'm like, on this call, I'm like, holy moly. So anyway, and
[21:29.560 -> 21:34.360] then all they want to do is ask me questions from a lived experience, some random questions,
[21:34.360 -> 21:37.320] right? So the first thing she says, she's like, I just don't get it. I said, he's a
[21:37.320 -> 21:41.720] good looking lad, right? I tell him all the time, he looks great. And I just went, I'll
[21:41.720 -> 21:46.140] be honest, if you, when you would say that to me, it's probably the worst thing you could ever say to me.
[21:46.140 -> 21:47.140] And she was like, what?
[21:47.140 -> 21:50.020] And he was behind going, nodding his head.
[21:50.020 -> 21:53.840] And she asked, look, from my experience, when I took, what I said earlier, right?
[21:53.840 -> 21:57.320] When I'm getting ready, my mum used to do it, it's not going to help me.
[21:57.320 -> 21:58.940] And he's like that, nodding.
[21:58.940 -> 22:02.700] And I said, all I want to do is just say, don't worry.
[22:02.700 -> 22:06.600] Don't you take your time, take a break. Or, I explained,
[22:06.600 -> 22:11.000] she was like, oh my god, and he was like, yeah. And then we had a conversation for about
[22:11.000 -> 22:15.480] an hour. And all I was asking, my personal experience, anyway, she messaged me the next
[22:15.480 -> 22:21.040] day and said, Dan, that hour with you, we got more than all the searching on Google
[22:21.040 -> 22:26.640] that we've ever got. And I was like, oh my God, this is all that's missing.
[22:26.640 -> 22:32.280] So I wanted to create a platform that gave people instant information from trusted sources,
[22:32.280 -> 22:37.560] right, instantly, because when you look at, this is not a replacement therapy, it's just
[22:37.560 -> 22:40.680] getting the right information. When you do go to a therapy session, all the lead experts
[22:40.680 -> 22:44.360] have gone and said, the first three sessions is just information giving. Because what happens
[22:44.360 -> 22:46.400] with the brain, you can only take seven bits of information
[22:46.400 -> 22:50.200] in at a time, right? So you have one session, you go back, they tell you a bit more about
[22:50.200 -> 22:53.360] it, a bit more. Imagine having a platform where these leading experts, by a touch of
[22:53.360 -> 22:56.200] a button, you can ask them a question and get the right information. Because the other
[22:56.200 -> 22:59.120] thing for me, with all these search engines that are out there, you search it, five and
[22:59.120 -> 23:04.560] a half million hits for BDD, how do you know what to trust? And it's one answer from one
[23:04.560 -> 23:05.360] question.
[23:05.360 -> 23:07.700] You read some text, which is probably the poorest way
[23:07.700 -> 23:09.120] to take in information,
[23:09.120 -> 23:11.640] because video content is more empathetic.
[23:11.640 -> 23:12.640] And then what does that do?
[23:12.640 -> 23:14.760] It eludes more questions.
[23:14.760 -> 23:17.520] So I was like, right, I've got to create a platform
[23:17.520 -> 23:20.360] that's free and gets instant access.
[23:20.360 -> 23:22.360] So using this technology,
[23:22.360 -> 23:26.000] we went and I went and got the leadingwr ar BDD, David Veal.
[23:26.000 -> 23:28.000] Rydw i'n cael y gynllun arbenigwr, Paul Gilbert,
[23:28.000 -> 23:30.000] OBE, y gynllun arbenigwr ar y DU
[23:30.000 -> 23:32.000] ar gyfer y dyfodol, ac yna rydyn ni'n cael
[23:32.000 -> 23:34.000] Alastair Campbell,
[23:34.000 -> 23:36.000] a oedd ar eich podcast.
[23:36.000 -> 23:38.000] A oedd e'n siarad llawer iawn, o'n i, am iechyd mentrol
[23:38.000 -> 23:40.000] ar y podcast? Mae'n anhygoel, ffyrdd.
[23:40.000 -> 23:42.000] Byddwn ni'n mynd i'w clywed, mae'n ddynion.
[23:42.000 -> 23:44.000] Ac hebddwch hi, byddaf ddim yn ymwneud â Jack
[23:44.000 -> 23:46.000] a phopeth. Ac yna rydyn ni'n ffocs arno. Byddwn yn mynd i'r ffocs arno.
[23:46.000 -> 23:48.000] Byddwn yn mynd i'r ffocs arno.
[23:48.000 -> 23:50.000] Byddwn yn mynd i'r ffocs arno.
[23:50.000 -> 23:52.000] Byddwn yn mynd i'r ffocs arno.
[23:52.000 -> 23:54.000] Byddwn yn mynd i'r ffocs arno.
[23:54.000 -> 23:56.000] Byddwn yn mynd i'r ffocs arno.
[23:56.000 -> 23:58.000] Byddwn yn mynd i'r ffocs arno.
[23:58.000 -> 24:00.000] Byddwn yn mynd i'r ffocs arno.
[24:00.000 -> 24:02.000] Byddwn yn mynd i'r ffocs arno.
[24:02.000 -> 24:04.000] Byddwn yn mynd i'r ffocs arno.
[24:04.000 -> 24:06.040] Byddwn yn mynd i'r ffocs arno. Byddwn yn mynd i'r ffocs arno. October the 10th, so literally nearly a year. I believe this podcast is coming out on October the 10th, so a year ago today.
[24:06.040 -> 24:06.880] Yeah.
[24:06.880 -> 24:07.920] Happy birthday.
[24:07.920 -> 24:08.760] Happy birthday.
[24:08.760 -> 24:12.840] And it went on the one show, it went very viral.
[24:12.840 -> 24:16.600] We have 14,000 hits, free site, free site.
[24:16.600 -> 24:19.400] 14,000 hits on the first night,
[24:19.400 -> 24:21.960] and we have 400 emails come in.
[24:21.960 -> 24:24.680] And these 400 emails, I read through them,
[24:24.680 -> 24:25.520] I was just crying all
[24:25.520 -> 24:29.280] night because the stories and I of course you create something you think
[24:29.280 -> 24:34.120] people could might hate it but people that we got 400 emails and their
[24:34.120 -> 24:38.080] personal stories can I do this can I help I can't believe this is real this
[24:38.080 -> 24:42.000] is change if I had this earlier mom saying my son's got PTSD please can you
[24:42.000 -> 24:47.040] do PTSD and then then I've got a bit of a realisation,
[24:47.040 -> 24:51.040] that's not enough, these three, and I need to scale this.
[24:51.040 -> 24:52.560] Because the other thing for me with mental health,
[24:52.560 -> 24:56.280] it's not just these conditions about boy-dd,
[24:56.280 -> 24:58.520] psychosis, depression,
[24:58.520 -> 25:00.800] mental health is everything in your life.
[25:00.800 -> 25:03.080] And like physical health, right?
[25:03.080 -> 25:04.920] Like these conditions like breaking your arm,
[25:04.920 -> 25:07.960] physical health, but of course, it's not just about breaking your arm physical
[25:07.960 -> 25:10.640] health it's about going to the gym it's about eating right same with your mental
[25:10.640 -> 25:16.160] health yoga 40% of it is mental and 60% of it is you know how it makes you feel
[25:16.160 -> 25:20.240] so I was like I need to get a platform that's got so much more and covers all
[25:20.240 -> 25:24.560] these conditions so for the last since then we've been working for a year on a
[25:24.560 -> 25:25.000] new platform that we're launching on November the 24th of this year which y byddwn ni'n gweithio am y blynyddoedd hwn. Felly, ers hynny, rydyn ni wedi gweithio am y blynyddoedd ar y newydd plâthform
[25:25.000 -> 25:26.000] a byddwn ni'n ei lansio
[25:26.000 -> 25:27.000] ar 24 November
[25:27.000 -> 25:29.000] o'r blynyddoedd hwn,
[25:29.000 -> 25:30.000] sy'n gwneud,
[25:30.000 -> 25:31.000] wrth gwrs,
[25:31.000 -> 25:32.000] pan fyddwn ni'n ei lansio,
[25:32.000 -> 25:33.000] byddwn ni'n cael
[25:33.000 -> 25:34.000] mwy na 50,000 gwestiynau
[25:34.000 -> 25:35.000] ar un plâthform
[25:35.000 -> 25:36.000] ar gyfer pob math o bethau gwahanol,
[25:36.000 -> 25:37.000] gan gynghoriolwyr a phobl
[25:37.000 -> 25:38.000] o brofiad byw,
[25:38.000 -> 25:39.000] felly dyna'r ddau.
[25:39.000 -> 25:40.000] Felly,
[25:40.000 -> 25:41.000] dwi'n meddwl,
[25:41.000 -> 25:42.000] rwy'n cael gwyrdd,
[25:42.000 -> 25:43.000] fel y dywedwch,
[25:43.000 -> 25:44.000] y pwysicau cyntaf
[25:44.000 -> 25:49.000] pan ddechreuwch hi. Ond rwy'n mwynhau eich drifwr ar ôl hwn. Dwi'n cael r, mae gen i goosbwmpiau, fel y dywedwch, ar yr effaith cyntaf pan ddechreuwch hi, ond rwy'n mwynhau eich drifwr ar ôl hyn.
[25:49.000 -> 26:00.000] Rwy'n cael rhai o'ch stori personol eich hun, ond pam roeddech chi'n teimlo ei fod yn cael ei ddod ar eich sgwrs o sefydlu'r cwrs Zoom gyda'r ffyrddfeydd a'i gynnal?
[26:00.000 -> 26:05.000] Pam roeddech chi'n teimlo ei fod yn cael ei ddod ar bod chi i greu'r platfform hon? Oherwydd roeddwn i'n teimlo'n ffrod.
[26:05.000 -> 26:07.600] Os edrych ar y busnesau, mae llawer o busnesau yno,
[26:07.600 -> 26:10.600] maen nhw i gyd ganddyn nhw un USB neu misiwn neu ddrwyf,
[26:10.600 -> 26:14.000] llawer ohonyn nhw, yn enwedig nawr, ymheledig at 20 mlynedd yn ôl.
[26:14.000 -> 26:15.640] Fel brand, gallwch weld rhywbeth,
[26:15.640 -> 26:18.000] gallwch mynd i'r ddeunydd gwych,
[26:18.000 -> 26:20.400] gael rhywbeth o Gymru, t-shirt, gwneud y nofio arno,
[26:20.400 -> 26:22.000] rhoi at y rhai o'r cyflwynor,
[26:22.000 -> 26:23.400] mae gennych brand.
[26:23.400 -> 26:25.500] O'r le, gall hynny ddigwydd. Nid yw'n gallu digwydd arall, oherwydd mae pobl yn gadael i ddrwyf a brand. name on it, give it to some influencers, you've got a brand. Right? That could happen. Can't
[26:25.500 -> 26:29.540] happen anymore because people are buying into brands and drive. I've always talked about
[26:29.540 -> 26:34.100] mental health with raw paint and I felt a fraud that because everyone talks about it
[26:34.100 -> 26:38.780] and says you have to talk, we all get that, right? We get that we need to talk. I wanted
[26:38.780 -> 26:42.940] to create something that would actually, because I was talking about you need to talk, but
[26:42.940 -> 26:48.000] it's still really difficult. And as much as we all know that, these people from that 10 year journey, right, a year in,
[26:48.000 -> 26:52.980] two years in, it's a long, long way away till they can just go and talk about it. So when
[26:52.980 -> 26:58.100] I say I felt a fraud, Warpaint was driven from my own story. Like I believed in it,
[26:58.100 -> 27:02.460] so I still do so much that men should have a choice, right? But I felt a fraud because
[27:02.460 -> 27:10.160] it's amazing what you do for mental health people saying, well, I'm just talking about it. So that was the drive for me to create this platform that's free
[27:10.160 -> 27:14.240] to say I'm actually like, I'm not just trying to talk about it. I want to do something because the
[27:14.240 -> 27:21.200] feeling you get me from those emails, it does, it doesn't matter, you know, and that's what I did
[27:21.200 -> 27:27.000] feel a fraud because wallpaper was going on. People saying it's amazing. You think I was getting people say thank you. And you give me a choice, which is amazing one hand, but that's just a Ac roeddwn i'n teimlo'n ffwrdd oherwydd roedd y pen draw yn mynd i'r ffordd roedd pobl yn dweud, mae'n anhygoel, roeddwn i'n cael pobl yn dweud diolch i chi ac roedd gennych chi'n rhoi penderfyniad i mi,
[27:27.000 -> 27:31.000] sy'n anhygoel i un o'r rhan, ond dyna'n un o'r tŵyl rydw i wedi'i defnyddio i'r masner.
[27:31.000 -> 27:34.000] Felly yr hyn rydw i'n dweud, rydw i eisiau dweud, defnyddwch y tŵylau hyn i helpu'r mental health,
[27:34.000 -> 27:38.000] ond neb i'w ddependio arnyn nhw. Felly, gan ddatglu Jack, roeddwn i'n eisiau gwneud hynny.
[27:38.000 -> 27:41.000] Mae'n ddiddorol iawn, nid? Oherwydd ar ddechrau'r sgwrs hon,
[27:41.000 -> 28:06.080] rydych chi'n dweud pan mae gennych BDD, rydych chi'n gysyllgu un broblem a rydych chi'n ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn ychydig yn y to be more than that. You couldn't say it better, mate, because BDD, that is, it's called masking or camouflaging.
[28:06.080 -> 28:07.760] So people can then use a lot of makeup
[28:07.760 -> 28:09.160] and depend on it can take a long time.
[28:09.160 -> 28:12.000] So whilst promoting use these products,
[28:12.000 -> 28:13.480] I use it as a tool, right?
[28:13.480 -> 28:15.240] So I still have BDD today.
[28:16.520 -> 28:18.160] Look, I've got a thing about clothes.
[28:18.160 -> 28:19.200] I have to feel comfortable
[28:19.200 -> 28:21.080] to be able to talk like this, right?
[28:21.080 -> 28:23.280] So I don't know if I can cover my team here.
[28:24.840 -> 28:25.760] This sounds ridiculous ridiculous but I went
[28:25.760 -> 28:33.680] shopping yesterday for this just because it doesn't sound ridiculous but I did
[28:33.680 -> 28:36.640] start having a problem because I've managed to I've learned how to manage it
[28:36.640 -> 28:39.760] right or what things make me feel comfortable so if I feel comfortable in
[28:39.760 -> 28:45.520] my clothes I know I'll be able to be my real me now, not sit here like this. So...
[28:45.520 -> 28:49.360] And do you beat yourself up that you think that you're weak because you have to do things
[28:49.360 -> 28:51.280] like that to do things like this?
[28:51.280 -> 28:52.280] No.
[28:52.280 -> 28:57.160] Yeah, I know, because I used to think it was, you know, and that's the problem.
[28:57.160 -> 29:00.960] I used to think, oh my God, like, is it me being weak or, but what I've learned is that
[29:00.960 -> 29:01.960] I have this condition.
[29:01.960 -> 29:05.200] I personally don't think it's ever going to disappear.
[29:05.200 -> 29:10.000] But if you look at me now, compared to five years ago, it's a different person.
[29:10.000 -> 29:12.200] Of course, I still have to, I do use makeup.
[29:12.200 -> 29:14.200] I get my hair cut once a week.
[29:14.200 -> 29:16.000] I do like certain clothes that fit well.
[29:16.000 -> 29:19.520] And I find, like, if I find a t-shirt, like t-shirts I wear, I'll get the arms tailored,
[29:19.520 -> 29:20.520] right?
[29:20.520 -> 29:21.520] Just because I like it tight.
[29:21.520 -> 29:24.720] So I'll find one t-shirt, be like, you know, Steve Jobs, I'm not saying I'm Steve Jobs,
[29:24.720 -> 29:27.080] bye. But, you know, he wore the same clothes every day because he found something comfortable. So I'll find one t-shirt, be like, you know, Steve Jobs, I'm not Sam Steve Jobs, bye. But you know, he wore the same clothes every day because he
[29:27.080 -> 29:30.480] found something comfortable. So I'm the same, I'll find a t-shirt, I'll buy eight of them,
[29:30.480 -> 29:35.840] get them together, I'm done, you know. So as you said, it's all about using, promote,
[29:35.840 -> 29:40.200] use things, whatever makes it. So wallpainting's more than makeup for me, it's about as a guy
[29:40.200 -> 29:43.240] do whatever you need to do to make yourself feel comfortable. If you're a guy and you
[29:43.240 -> 29:45.000] want to wear a dress, wear a dress. If you're a guy and you want to wear makeup, wear makeup. Fel gyrfa, gwnewch gwneud yr hyn sydd angen i chi wneud i'ch gweithio'n hyderus. Os ydych yn gyrfa a chwiliwch i'r ddres, gwnewch gwneud y ddres.
[29:45.000 -> 29:47.000] Os ydych yn gyrfa a chwiliwch i'r make-up, gwnewch gwneud y make-up.
[29:47.000 -> 29:49.000] Dwi'n siarad am bethau mewn gwirfoddol.
[29:49.000 -> 29:52.000] Os ydych yn gyrfa a chwiliwch i'r gwneud unrhyw beth a dweud i bobl eich bod chi ddim,
[29:52.000 -> 29:54.000] ond mae'n teimlo'n dda, gwnewch gwneud y gyrfa.
[29:54.000 -> 29:59.000] A oes gennych hefyd y stryd o'r ffaith bod Warpaint wedi dod o'r BDD
[29:59.000 -> 30:02.000] a bod Warpaint wedi bod yn llwyr?
[30:02.000 -> 30:07.880] A oes gennych stryd o'r ffaith bod chi'n llwyr, a'ch chi'n gwneud llawer o'r peth a oedd wedi gwneud i chi lawer o'r penderfyniad Warpaint became successful. Did you struggle with the fact that you were you were successful you were making money out of something that caused you
[30:07.880 -> 30:10.080] so much suffering and you want to give back or not?
[30:10.080 -> 30:17.360] No because I don't know I was talking about earlier do I believe in fate, manifestation, is everything meant to
[30:17.360 -> 30:23.100] happen the way it is? Like I'm doing something at the minute, Jack, Warpaint, I'm in the
[30:23.100 -> 30:25.160] top 0.1% of the world because
[30:25.160 -> 30:28.400] every day I can't wait to go to bed to get up in the morning to go to work. It's
[30:28.400 -> 30:33.760] hard, it's hard, but it's the best thing I've ever done. And so, even though it's
[30:33.760 -> 30:38.180] been born out of that, it's a... I'm passionate about these two things, right?
[30:38.180 -> 30:41.360] And when you're passionate about something, I promise you it's not work. I
[30:41.360 -> 30:48.000] wouldn't change anything in my life, I'm getting bullied, BDD, BDD'd, because I get scared when I'm in this position.
[30:48.000 -> 30:55.000] So can I ask you about the origins of wallpaint then? Because I think there's nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come.
[30:55.000 -> 31:32.000] And when I was doing the research on, knowing we were going to chat to you today then, that my mind went back to about 15 years ago when I was in Australia Felly, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae' yn dweud bod hynny'n cymryd eich gofyn i wneud y gwnaethu i ddweud gwahaniaethau.
[31:32.000 -> 31:36.000] Ac rwy'n mwynhau'r ffordd rydych chi'n mynd ymlaen o'r cyfnodau'r cyntaf.
[31:36.000 -> 31:47.600] Ie, oherwydd nidi cael y syniad. Yn gyntaf, rydw i wedi testio'r farchnad, sy'n meddwl bod unrhyw bobl yno sy'n eisiau dechrau eu hunain busnes eu hunain, a meddwl, os gallwch chi testio'r farchnad,
[31:47.600 -> 31:50.240] siaradwyr, beth bynnag yr ydych chi eisiau ei ysgrifennu, mae'n bwysig i chi wneud, deu.
[31:50.240 -> 31:51.360] Felly roedd gen i ddigwyddiad da.
[31:51.360 -> 31:52.000] Yr hyn rydyn ni'n ei wneud?
[31:52.560 -> 31:57.200] Felly roeddwn i mewn car. Roeddwn i mewn busnes o'r car, roeddwn i'n cyfarfod ar drosoddau, roedd gen i
[31:57.200 -> 32:02.000] ddigwyddiadau da, roedd gen i ddigwyddiadau da, roedd gen i wneud arloes i ffwrdd, trafod y byd,
[32:02.000 -> 32:06.160] gwneud hynny. Roedd gen i digwyddiad da, deu, dim ond ddau o'r penni'n debyg, ond y pwysicau hwn, a edrych, byddwn i'n siar had a good career, right? Only half decent money.
[32:06.160 -> 32:07.440] But this passion for it, and look,
[32:07.440 -> 32:09.120] I'll talk about my Obi again, God, he's got lip.
[32:09.120 -> 32:10.640] He's getting a lot of air time on here.
[32:10.640 -> 32:12.000] I like Obi.
[32:12.000 -> 32:13.800] I was on the golf course with him, right?
[32:13.800 -> 32:16.240] And I was on, I remember I was on the second hole
[32:16.240 -> 32:19.520] of a Hellwood downs, par five, second shot.
[32:19.520 -> 32:20.880] And we were talking about him in the makeup band,
[32:20.880 -> 32:21.720] and he literally turned around to me and said,
[32:21.720 -> 32:24.200] Dan, you've got to stop talking about it and just do it.
[32:24.200 -> 32:25.560] And it's so bizarre, it's like someone clicked a switch in my head. I was like, right, I mean the makeup brand, he literally turned around to me and said, Dan, you've got to stop talking about it and just do it. And it was so bizarre, it was like someone
[32:25.560 -> 32:30.320] clicked a switch in my head. I was like, right, I'm doing it. And if I decide to do something,
[32:30.320 -> 32:35.160] that's it, I mean 100%. I literally couldn't wait to get off the golf course, right? Still
[32:35.160 -> 32:42.120] beating. Got off the golf course, sat in my car for four hours, just calling people, like,
[32:42.120 -> 32:45.080] how do you do a website how do I do this my
[32:45.080 -> 32:49.520] cousin did websites anyway so that was start so now I tested the market bought
[32:49.520 -> 32:52.520] some products in from China slapped a badge on it war paint was the name
[32:52.520 -> 32:57.480] create a very basic website put some ads out we made seven orders in one day I
[32:57.480 -> 33:02.920] was like right stop so that cost me about 20 for all my savings 24 grand
[33:02.920 -> 33:06.800] right prove a market now I need to create my own makeup.
[33:06.800 -> 33:08.120] So you put all your money into this?
[33:08.120 -> 33:09.520] Everything I had, right, all my savings,
[33:09.520 -> 33:11.280] 20, it was 24 grand, everything I had.
[33:11.280 -> 33:12.480] And were you in a relationship at the time as well?
[33:12.480 -> 33:13.480] I was, yeah, yeah.
[33:13.480 -> 33:16.160] So tell us about that conversation at home.
[33:16.160 -> 33:18.040] With Kirsty, I had a young child,
[33:18.040 -> 33:20.960] he was only one, or six months old.
[33:20.960 -> 33:23.200] I was like, I'm just gonna do this on the side.
[33:23.200 -> 33:24.760] And do you know what, when people were sat out there
[33:24.760 -> 33:25.880] and they're thinking, should I do it, should I not? I just promised you do this on the side and you know what when people were sat out there and they're thinking should I do it should I not
[33:25.880 -> 33:30.040] I promised you the second I got for that golf course it was a Saturday the Monday
[33:30.040 -> 33:33.800] I was in my full-time job right and the feeling I had in my stomach that I was
[33:33.800 -> 33:37.440] doing this thing on the side was unbelievable the energy I had even for
[33:37.440 -> 33:40.880] my jobs the first thing I did actually was told my current CEO that I'm gonna
[33:40.880 -> 33:45.680] do this thing on the side just to let you know. It shows you about good leadership.
[33:45.680 -> 33:47.960] I was a bit nervous, but I don't want to hide anything.
[33:47.960 -> 33:49.560] He said, I told him what I was going to do.
[33:49.560 -> 33:51.680] He said, Dan, I absolutely fucking love that.
[33:51.680 -> 33:53.000] He said, it shows you're entrepreneurial
[33:53.000 -> 33:54.760] and there's sort of people I want in my business.
[33:54.760 -> 33:57.200] So I said, it won't affect how I work here.
[33:57.200 -> 33:59.320] He says, whenever he does, just tell me
[33:59.320 -> 34:01.080] and then we'll make a thing, but well done, mate.
[34:01.080 -> 34:04.320] I was like, now that, that's leadership, mate.
[34:04.320 -> 34:05.280] That is leadership. So anyway, test the market, got this. Then I was like, now that, that's leadership mate, that is leadership.
[34:05.280 -> 34:08.880] So anyway, test the market, got this, then I was like right I need to correct my own makeup.
[34:09.520 -> 34:13.120] But Anglin, you've not answered the question of, you go home to your wife,
[34:13.120 -> 34:16.800] that she's there with a young six month old child, dead at her arms and
[34:16.800 -> 34:20.000] she's going fucking Obie giving you this advice again.
[34:20.000 -> 34:21.840] Not a second of doubt, do it.
[34:22.560 -> 34:25.960] Not a second of doubt from her, do it.
[34:25.960 -> 34:28.360] Of course, I excited for me.
[34:28.360 -> 34:29.200] And that's the other thing,
[34:29.200 -> 34:30.840] if people back you, the belief you get,
[34:30.840 -> 34:31.680] and you're like, let's do it,
[34:31.680 -> 34:32.500] compared to other people who go,
[34:32.500 -> 34:34.080] oh God, save your money.
[34:34.080 -> 34:35.440] Fuck that.
[34:35.440 -> 34:36.680] I'm 30 years old.
[34:36.680 -> 34:38.120] And my mindset was always with that.
[34:38.120 -> 34:39.280] Do you know what it was?
[34:39.280 -> 34:40.240] You know, pensions,
[34:40.240 -> 34:42.160] like don't take this for gospel anyone listening,
[34:42.160 -> 34:43.680] but my mindset, right?
[34:43.680 -> 34:44.520] Do you want a pension?
[34:44.520 -> 34:50.900] No. Why? Because I'm going to do something that I'll be alright later. I want my money now to do stuff with it
[34:50.900 -> 34:56.400] I don't know, but I'm not saying don't do a pension, but that was just my belief and she was behind it
[34:56.400 -> 35:00.620] So and it was then we test the market good reactions. I'm not right and he's correct my makeup
[35:00.620 -> 35:08.820] Oh, how the fuck do you do that? So first of all, I called up every manufacturer in the UK. Do you know what they're doing? Phone down, like, who's this guy?
[35:08.820 -> 35:12.320] He wants to do a men's makeup brand. First person I called, what's the minimum order
[35:12.320 -> 35:18.740] quantity? 10,000 units per shade. So I was like, oh my god. Eventually got hold of a
[35:18.740 -> 35:22.980] family-run business, went to one manufacturer, didn't work out, found another one. I said,
[35:22.980 -> 35:25.300] let me come and pitch to you. Let me come and meet you.
[35:25.300 -> 35:26.960] So I drove up, it was an Ipswich.
[35:26.960 -> 35:29.400] Don't wanna give away who they are.
[35:29.400 -> 35:32.120] Went up to Ipswich, sat down with the owner.
[35:32.120 -> 35:33.480] I said, look, I'm gonna create this brand,
[35:33.480 -> 35:35.400] and they just bought into my passion.
[35:35.400 -> 35:37.200] And I said, please just lower the MOQs.
[35:37.200 -> 35:39.840] They said, okay, we'll do 2,000 units per shade,
[35:39.840 -> 35:41.440] because the amount of products I wanted to launch with,
[35:41.440 -> 35:43.880] it was still 100 grand.
[35:43.880 -> 35:44.720] And the other thing they said,
[35:44.720 -> 35:47.400] this is all the components we can use. I went, don't like
[35:47.400 -> 35:52.040] them. They, it's too feminine. So I went and sourced all my own componentry from China.
[35:52.040 -> 35:55.680] So where's this money now coming from? So I raised money with a family member. So it's
[35:55.680 -> 35:58.920] my brother-in-law. Um, so that's always a good way to go to begin with, if you want
[35:58.920 -> 36:06.380] to raise money, beg, steal and borrow to begin with. So with him I raised about 150 grand but my opening
[36:06.380 -> 36:10.620] order was 97 grand. Opening order right? So opening order and I had one girl
[36:10.620 -> 36:13.740] working for me full-time you know and we were based in a flat in Watford.
[36:13.740 -> 36:15.600] Toby Vallisteris And you're still working in car sales as well?
[36:15.600 -> 36:21.660] Jason Vale Yeah but that was and then up to so we were launching November the 1st 2018 so we
[36:21.660 -> 36:24.800] did all this behind us it was carnage can you imagine like product turning up
[36:24.800 -> 36:26.120] that was wrong like like, but we
[36:26.120 -> 36:28.600] had to do everything right. Create the name, create the
[36:28.600 -> 36:32.160] logo, at a moment of madness that we had a logo which looked
[36:32.160 -> 36:35.000] like a barber's logo, which I thought was on brand. And I kept
[36:35.000 -> 36:36.760] driving around seeing all these barbers with the same logo, I was
[36:36.760 -> 36:39.320] like, we've got to change it. And I had product like all of
[36:39.360 -> 36:42.640] all of the samples turn up to sign off. Literally, I was like,
[36:42.640 -> 36:48.720] no. So we went back to the store and bought stuff like that. Product turned out that was wrong. Had to formulate my own makeup. So I was
[36:48.720 -> 36:52.720] testing hundreds of foundations. I went to certain pigment. Like people say, what's the difference?
[36:53.360 -> 36:56.960] Skincare, there's not a lot of difference, right? You know, men's and females, but for men's makeup,
[36:56.960 -> 37:02.960] for me, there is like little pigment, matte finish, no floral smell to it, no shimmers in any of our
[37:02.960 -> 37:05.600] product, almost invisible, invisible right a buildable product
[37:05.880 -> 37:10.840] So I did all of that in a flat in Watford and then I left my job on September
[37:11.460 -> 37:16.420] 2018 because part of the deal was I had to quit my job and be all in so I remortgaged my house as well at
[37:16.420 -> 37:18.420] This point to put in my own money
[37:18.840 -> 37:21.620] Some of cars used to collect some watches sold on watches
[37:22.120 -> 37:27.440] And then literally sat in a flat in Watford November the 1st and went, here we go.
[37:27.440 -> 37:30.240] So you'd given this absolutely everything?
[37:30.240 -> 37:34.680] Oh yeah, like, but do you know what my mindset is, is that I'd write, people always say,
[37:34.680 -> 37:38.920] oh but I don't know if I should use my savings, I say if you've got that mindset you'll probably
[37:38.920 -> 37:43.200] not cut out for it, right, my mindset is that I'll give everything, I'll try everything,
[37:43.200 -> 37:46.320] as long as it's not going gonna damage my kids and my house
[37:46.320 -> 37:48.780] It's gonna disappear, you know remorse it fine
[37:49.300 -> 37:54.420] But I don't need a car don't need anything and then we worked from flat and what fuckers go work for me didn't drive
[37:54.420 -> 37:56.420] So my commute got longer
[37:56.540 -> 38:02.280] Did you really gave me a fiat 500? I've still got today. Did you really him? What a brave person you were?
[38:03.560 -> 38:05.040] Did you feel brave?
[38:05.040 -> 38:06.040] No, no I didn't.
[38:06.040 -> 38:07.040] I didn't really.
[38:07.040 -> 38:08.040] Yeah, I didn't.
[38:08.040 -> 38:10.620] I was just like, I'd rather give it everything and I just loved it.
[38:10.620 -> 38:13.960] The feeling of creating was unbelievable.
[38:13.960 -> 38:15.960] So then we launched on the 1st November.
[38:15.960 -> 38:22.560] I forecasted my show, I had to do everything, forecasting, customer service, packaging,
[38:22.560 -> 38:23.880] marketing.
[38:23.880 -> 38:26.640] So the way we marketed it, I was like, right, we need
[38:26.640 -> 38:29.400] to dispel the myth of the type of guys who might wear makeup because there was stuff
[38:29.400 -> 38:34.120] going out there, but it was quite feminine, right? Some of the bigger brands now, I just
[38:34.120 -> 38:39.520] didn't think I wouldn't have been attracted to. So at that time, five years ago, guys
[38:39.520 -> 38:43.200] built well, tattoos, ups and necks weren't being used for ads for makeup. So I was like,
[38:43.200 -> 38:47.360] they're the guys who've got to use, create an ad, it'll look wicked. Put it out and it got a
[38:47.360 -> 38:51.760] lot of reaction, right? A lot of hate as well. So we got onto that, a lot of hate,
[38:51.760 -> 38:55.240] but we'd start getting a lot of sales. So the first month I said we'd do two and a half
[38:55.240 -> 38:59.840] grand in sales, we did 11. I was picking and packing, then literally trying to find
[38:59.840 -> 39:04.560] a post office, because we had one downstairs that I'll take it down to. So after a
[39:04.560 -> 39:10.160] month we got an office, because we did 11 grand. Second month I said five grand, we did 28 grand.
[39:10.160 -> 39:15.120] And literally I'm now picking and packing. So I do customer service in the morning, brand
[39:15.120 -> 39:18.480] marketing, picking pack for two hours. And then sometimes I miss-
[39:18.480 -> 39:20.120] Steve Marrish This is entrepreneurship right here by the
[39:20.120 -> 39:22.160] way. I think it's so important for people to hear this.
[39:22.160 -> 39:23.160] Jason Vale It's glamorous, right?
[39:23.160 -> 39:26.720] Steve Marrish No, my God, but I loved it, mate. I loved
[39:26.720 -> 39:29.200] it. Like picking and packing, do you know what it is as well, mate? I'll do the picking
[39:29.200 -> 39:33.320] and packing because when you're picking and packing your own orders, what a buzz, right?
[39:33.320 -> 39:36.960] It's not a buzz when you've got 100 orders and it's the 78th time you're doing it. You're
[39:36.960 -> 39:40.600] like, oh my God. And then we were shipping all over the world as well. So different.
[39:40.600 -> 39:45.140] I was literally laying out the stuff and whatever one time it was a Friday and we had a
[39:45.760 -> 39:47.760] People pay for the next day delivery for the Monday
[39:48.400 -> 39:50.480] And I've missed the post office downstairs
[39:50.480 -> 39:57.440] So I literally drove around in my Fiat 500 packed to the rafters and I found a her maze in the middle of Watford
[39:57.680 -> 40:00.680] Right, and can you imagine the people on a Friday night?
[40:00.680 -> 40:04.700] Well, I love you. Oh, well the guy behind the jump did because you get 50p a parcel, right?
[40:04.700 -> 40:05.000] So he was he was loving it. The customers loved you. Well, the guy behind the jump did, because you get 50p a parcel, right?
[40:05.000 -> 40:06.560] So he was loving it.
[40:06.560 -> 40:08.160] The customers were like, ooh, is this guy?
[40:08.160 -> 40:10.640] I was like, I'm so sorry, guys, this has got to go out today.
[40:10.640 -> 40:12.360] So second month we did like 28 grand.
[40:12.360 -> 40:14.000] Third month, we did 36.
[40:14.000 -> 40:16.520] And I'm like, holy shit.
[40:16.520 -> 40:19.320] This is going well, but we are getting pelters, online pelters, right?
[40:19.320 -> 40:20.320] Go on, let's play with that.
[40:20.320 -> 40:26.320] So these ads are going out, and the people are saying, saying this is ridiculous and it hurt me at the beginning
[40:27.600 -> 40:31.120] And we were getting pillows, but I was like, well, we're getting sales people them saying I think it's great
[40:31.360 -> 40:35.960] So any a May the 9th 2019 my sister's birthday go out for a meal
[40:36.600 -> 40:38.320] and
[40:38.320 -> 40:40.320] The girl works me calls me five times
[40:40.520 -> 40:46.280] I'm like what so I put the house goes down did we put put an ad out on Twitter that day the same ad right?
[40:46.840 -> 40:49.860] She goes we're going viral. I said, what do you mean going viral? I didn't got clue
[40:49.860 -> 40:52.120] I mean she goes it's going viral on Twitter, but it's negative
[40:52.120 -> 40:58.000] I was like what so I looked at my phone had a quarter of a million views within hour and a half
[40:58.000 -> 41:01.980] I'm like, oh my god looks online. It is when I say pelters
[41:02.720 -> 41:08.680] Unbelievable put the phone down go back into my scissors arm brick in it look again half a million tell me the sorts
[41:08.680 -> 41:16.200] of messages that it was generating this is ridiculous men's makeup is toxic
[41:16.200 -> 41:20.120] masculinity was a word that was used constantly this is not there's no
[41:20.120 -> 41:24.840] difference to me how ridiculous is this brand it got so bad that night we had in
[41:24.840 -> 41:28.880] 24 hours 8 million views trending number one in the world on Twitter. I was
[41:28.880 -> 41:34.680] on CBN, Good Morning America. Literally I put the phone, so the phone the next day
[41:34.680 -> 41:39.080] in the office, every time I put it down it was ringing, daily mail, can we have an
[41:39.080 -> 41:42.680] interview, can we have an interview. I was like, talking about mental health.
[41:42.680 -> 41:45.000] Toby Vayne-Byrdside Okay but what was it that triggered this outbreak? Iawn, ond beth oedd y peth a oedd yn rhagor yma? Wel, dim ond bobl sy'n mynd ar y bandwagon a ddim yn deall.
[41:45.000 -> 41:49.000] Dyma'r peth arall, yr hyn rydw i ddim wedi siarad amdano pan ddechreuais y band, oedd fy nhwari.
[41:49.000 -> 41:52.000] Roedd ar y ddŵr, yma, ac roedd ar y pwysau arall,
[41:52.000 -> 41:56.000] ond yr holl bobl sy'n gweld yw'r adwyrdd, ac roedd yn anhygoel.
[41:56.000 -> 42:00.000] Iawn, ond roedd y cyfrifiad hwn yn y cyfrifiad rydych chi wedi ei rhoi cyn i chi ddweud.
[42:00.000 -> 42:04.000] Iawn, felly beth oedd y cyfnod a rhagorodd y rhagorodd hon ar y cyfnod hon?
[42:04.000 -> 42:05.160] Twitter. Twitter. Twitter. Twitter. yn anhygoel. Iawn, ond roedd hwn yn adferd rydych chi wedi ei rhoi cyn i chi ddweud. Iawn, rydych chi'n ei rhoi.
[42:05.160 -> 42:06.640] Iawn, felly beth oedd y cyfnod
[42:06.640 -> 42:07.840] sy'n rhagorhau
[42:07.840 -> 42:09.840] y rhan hwn o'r argyfwng?
[42:09.840 -> 42:10.360] Twitter.
[42:10.360 -> 42:11.040] Roedd y pryd ffordd
[42:11.040 -> 42:12.360] rydyn ni'n ei roi ar Twitter
[42:12.360 -> 42:13.360] ac mae'n mynd,
[42:13.360 -> 42:14.560] fel, mae'n mynd
[42:14.560 -> 42:16.800] ac rydyn ni'n ar bob artycl newydd
[42:16.800 -> 42:17.840] ymlaen, rydyn ni'n bwysig
[42:17.840 -> 42:18.680] yn y stafell, mae pobl yn dod i mewn
[42:18.680 -> 42:19.280] i geisio helpu,
[42:19.280 -> 42:20.440] ond roedd yn llwybr.
[42:20.440 -> 42:21.120] Ac, yw'n gwybod,
[42:21.120 -> 42:22.040] diwethaf yn America.
[42:22.040 -> 42:23.160] Roedd ar y newydd sylfaenol.
[42:23.160 -> 42:24.400] Yn ystod y cyfrifiadau ar wahanol
[42:24.400 -> 42:28.040] y ffranwraeth mânt. Felly ar y pryd roeddwn i'n teimlo a meddwl bod y ffranwraeth wedi dod. bowling and you know, good morning America, it was on the main news. Internet backlash is over men's makeup brand. So at the time I was in turmoil, thought
[42:28.040 -> 42:32.240] the brand had died. Toby Vayne- Tell us about what it did for your mental health at this
[42:32.240 -> 42:36.800] point. Jason Vale- Oh God, people say how did you cope with it? Well I didn't, simple as that.
[42:36.800 -> 42:39.160] Can you imagine all the stuff you'd worked for, giving up everything and
[42:39.160 -> 42:43.960] because I was so new to it, I thought that's it, the brand's over. But a couple of
[42:43.960 -> 42:45.720] things I noticed,
[42:45.720 -> 42:48.200] on that day, we'd had record sales.
[42:48.200 -> 42:50.720] So we were doing like a grand a day,
[42:50.720 -> 42:54.160] maybe on an amazing day, we'd done seven grand, right?
[42:54.160 -> 42:56.440] And people messaging us privately,
[42:56.440 -> 42:58.040] don't listen to it, I think it's amazing,
[42:58.040 -> 42:58.880] it's really helped me.
[42:58.880 -> 43:00.040] We had messages from mums saying,
[43:00.040 -> 43:03.040] my kid's 17, he's never used make-up,
[43:03.040 -> 43:04.200] and would never have his picture taken,
[43:04.200 -> 43:09.160] like, it was unbelievable stuff. And I clicked and went well all this backlash no one's
[43:09.160 -> 43:12.360] talking about my story right no one's looked at the about us and taking the
[43:12.360 -> 43:15.040] piss out of that it's all about what we're trying to do as a band so no one
[43:15.040 -> 43:21.280] understands it so that was a Tuesday on the Thursday I'm filming dragons den
[43:21.280 -> 43:25.440] talk about fate right and I'm like so I've got to drive to Manchester
[43:25.440 -> 43:29.960] to film Dragons Den. On the way to Manchester the night before, I have to pull over to do
[43:29.960 -> 43:34.640] an interview on America. And I'm just getting lambasted. So I said, right, I'm going to
[43:34.640 -> 43:40.840] Dragons Den, I need to tell my story. Bear in mind, forward facing all the people around
[43:40.840 -> 43:44.920] me didn't know about Body Dysmorphia, didn't know about me being a men's makeup brand because
[43:44.920 -> 43:46.880] I hadn't shouted about it. So I was like, I have to go on
[43:46.880 -> 43:53.920] there and say I'm doing a men's makeup brand and this is why. On our podcast we love to highlight
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[45:31.820 -> 45:33.820] So if this
[45:33.980 -> 45:38.420] Backlash this uproar this ferrari hadn't unfolded days before dragons den
[45:39.020 -> 45:42.580] Would you have gone on dragons den and put your story at the forefront of that marriage?
[45:43.980 -> 45:45.680] So in so many ways we that pitch so in so many
[45:45.680 -> 45:51.120] ways we spoke about fate in so many ways it's almost like a gift from somewhere
[45:51.120 -> 45:54.920] to go do you know what I'm gonna give you this lesson days before this huge
[45:54.920 -> 45:58.080] moment that you that you will learn from it and you will change the way you're
[45:58.080 -> 46:02.560] gonna speak it's weird no people said would you go back and change your thing
[46:02.560 -> 46:07.120] I know cuz I shit myself about I can imagine if I didn't do that I wouldn't be
[46:07.120 -> 46:08.120] to the position.
[46:08.120 -> 46:09.120] That was one of them, right?
[46:09.120 -> 46:12.840] That decision was made two days before and then Dragons' Den was then aired two months
[46:12.840 -> 46:19.600] later and they said to me when, actually when I came off of Dragons' Den, one of the directors
[46:19.600 -> 46:20.600] was crying.
[46:20.600 -> 46:22.600] He said, it's the best one I've ever done in seven years.
[46:22.600 -> 46:24.600] I was a bit, but I was disappointed in the deal I'd done.
[46:24.600 -> 46:25.560] I don't know if you've seen it, but but I was disappointed with the deal I'd done. I don't know if you've seen it,
[46:25.560 -> 46:28.200] but I was actually disappointed on the deal I'd done.
[46:28.200 -> 46:29.920] And then two months later it was aired, right?
[46:29.920 -> 46:31.240] So then I'm waiting for the airing
[46:31.240 -> 46:32.240] and I did have my mates around there
[46:32.240 -> 46:34.000] because obviously it went all right.
[46:34.000 -> 46:37.520] But I did not realise the reaction I would get
[46:37.520 -> 46:38.680] after it was all the brand.
[46:38.680 -> 46:41.440] So we went out on Dragons Den and then we trended
[46:41.440 -> 46:43.400] on Twitter, but it was No Socks Dan,
[46:43.400 -> 46:44.800] because I'm wearing no socks and we're doing Brexit
[46:44.800 -> 46:45.160] at the time, to negotiate Brexit. And it was just, but it was no socks Dan, because we're wearing no socks and we're doing Brexit at the time,
[46:45.160 -> 46:46.480] so negotiate Brexit.
[46:46.480 -> 46:49.080] And it was just, and it was daily mail next day,
[46:49.080 -> 46:51.720] said best in 15 years, crowd go,
[46:51.720 -> 46:54.440] like people, because it went viral, right?
[46:54.440 -> 46:57.160] And I was like, but I can remember it finished
[46:57.160 -> 46:58.320] and then all my mates were going mad.
[46:58.320 -> 46:59.280] Can you match, it's like a football match,
[46:59.280 -> 47:00.460] we're never doing negotiation.
[47:00.460 -> 47:02.080] But then afterwards, it was just like,
[47:02.080 -> 47:03.720] they said you're trending, everyone's going mad about it.
[47:03.720 -> 47:25.880] And I was like, if that hadn dweud, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, dywedodd, So you announce that to that dragons my close mates. Okay, the mates I care about but then that's always the perception
[47:25.880 -> 47:29.800] I think people worry about people don't know you and that's what I was right about, you know
[47:29.800 -> 47:32.360] Well where I'll be out or locally like not sounds well-known
[47:32.400 -> 47:37.040] But people didn't have a clue that will make up didn't clue that I bought his morphe. Ah, and there were people
[47:37.040 -> 47:39.040] I was worried about and I look back in time go
[47:39.440 -> 47:44.680] That is so ridiculous, you know all my close mates knew but the Pete I've more worried about the outside
[47:44.840 -> 47:45.000] You know people and I knew in the beginning I was a little piss on me Mae hynny'n ddiddorol iawn. Yn fy nhrefnwyr, rydw i'n bwysig am y gwahanol.
[47:45.000 -> 47:48.000] A gwybodais i gyd, roeddent yn mynd i fy nghyffro.
[47:48.000 -> 47:50.000] Ond, oherwydd rydych wedi creu brand,
[47:50.000 -> 47:52.000] fel y dechreuwch i Jake,
[47:52.000 -> 47:54.000] mae'n masg yn nifer o ffyrdd,
[47:54.000 -> 47:56.000] mae'n cael problem,
[47:56.000 -> 47:58.000] ac rydych chi'n masgoi'n ffyrdd.
[47:58.000 -> 48:00.000] Ac rydych chi'n dod ar TV nationale,
[48:00.000 -> 48:02.000] a'i gadael y masg.
[48:02.000 -> 48:04.000] Pa mor ddiddorol oedd hynny?
[48:04.000 -> 48:09.480] Yn amlwg, roeddwn i'n niferod o'r math, oherwydd dydw i ddim wedi siarad amdano. that mask off how did that make you feel obviously I was nervous about it because I never talked about that I knew it'd be national scale but I had to do it
[48:09.480 -> 48:12.440] because I needed people to understand the story behind the brand as we talk
[48:12.440 -> 48:15.840] about brand mission right it's not I'm not just slapping a thing on it this is
[48:15.840 -> 48:21.080] why I'm doing it and it just for me it works out so well because then the story
[48:21.080 -> 48:23.840] became front and center and then I realized when we talk about brands the
[48:23.840 -> 48:27.880] importance of drive and mission it's's not a product people are interested in. The
[48:27.880 -> 48:31.240] product is a product. All the products are as good as each other. You know, of course
[48:31.240 -> 48:34.800] there's new ingredients and stuff like that. Our product's great but it's what we
[48:34.800 -> 48:38.040] drive for and then that shifted everything for us and that's why I started
[48:38.040 -> 48:41.960] filming everything and telling the story. Then we had John Lewis, we had
[48:41.960 -> 48:47.160] the first ever men's makeup counter, it went absolutely viral again, like ridiculous. The first ever men's makeup counter it went absolutely viral again like ridiculous first ever men's makeup
[48:47.160 -> 48:52.400] counter in the world that went viral TV everywhere but it was positive you know
[48:52.400 -> 48:57.000] and that I talk about fate we set it up in John Lewis no press organized and
[48:57.000 -> 49:02.920] then a reportive guy from Sunday Times came in and apparently he then called
[49:02.920 -> 49:07.640] the office and I was passed the phone I'm from Sunday, I want to write an article about John Lewis, I've
[49:07.640 -> 49:11.040] just walked in, I think it's incredible, can I have the exclusive? I said, well is it
[49:11.040 -> 49:17.200] gonna be a good story? And he was like, well no, I love it. Anyway, so then Sunday Times come out,
[49:17.200 -> 49:21.720] page six, it's this big, like tiny little thing, meant to make up count, I'm like, oh that's cool,
[49:21.720 -> 49:25.400] that's cool. Next day, 6 in the morning, LBC
[49:25.400 -> 49:29.640] called the office, because it goes to my phone, can you come on at 7? I did back to back for
[49:29.640 -> 49:34.720] the next two weeks interviews on every news channel you can imagine about John Lewis.
[49:34.720 -> 49:39.120] And at that point I was raised, we talk about fate again, I was in with a venture capitalist
[49:39.120 -> 49:42.360] that morning on the Monday talking about next round of investment, I had to leave the meeting
[49:42.360 -> 49:48.120] to go and do an interview. And then, yeah, then we had that, then I opened the first ever men's makeup store in the world
[49:48.120 -> 49:53.680] on Carnaby Street. But all of that, I do all of that, it's not about necessarily selling
[49:53.680 -> 49:58.320] products, it's about trying to create a category, make it normal, right? Because for me, look,
[49:58.320 -> 50:02.160] we've just done a deal with just, no one will know this, we're launching in 350 super drug
[50:02.160 -> 50:06.000] stores, you know, the first ever men's makeup in the UK at scale. And it's not about the ac rydyn ni'n gweithio mewn 350 o ddraugau superdrog. Yn y DU, dyma'r cyntaf o ddraugau mwynion.
[50:06.000 -> 50:08.000] Ac nid yw'n ymwneud â'r arloes,
[50:08.000 -> 50:10.000] ond ychydig ar y gwrthwyneb.
[50:10.000 -> 50:13.000] Mae'n iawn.
[50:13.000 -> 50:15.000] Yn ogystal â'r llyfr gweithredu'n ffamos,
[50:15.000 -> 50:17.000] Good to Grey,
[50:17.000 -> 50:19.000] dyma'r ffordd rydych chi'n ei ddysgrifio,
[50:19.000 -> 50:21.000] oherwydd rydych chi'n ymdrechu ar gael
[50:21.000 -> 50:23.000] ac yn mynd i le gwych
[50:23.000 -> 50:28.480] ar y ffordd rydych chi'n ei wneud. Un o'r pwyntafau y mae Jim Collins yn ei ddweud yn y llyfr yw'r chynllun
[50:28.480 -> 50:29.680] yn hytrach na'r strategaeth.
[50:29.680 -> 50:32.480] Felly mae'n dweud, mae eich cynllun yn ymwneud â'r ymdrechion,
[50:32.480 -> 50:36.880] y sylwad o'r ymdrech, ond y strategaeth o sut y gallwch chi fynd allan yno
[50:36.880 -> 50:40.320] efallai y mae angen i'w newid, ym mhob ffordd, ac mae hynny'n unig
[50:40.320 -> 50:41.920] yr hyn rydych chi wedi'i ddysgu.
[50:41.920 -> 50:44.720] Felly, beth bynnag y byddwch chi'n ei ddysgu, y misiwn y byddwch chi'n ei wneud,
[50:44.720 -> 50:46.000] y pwysigrwydd o'r busnes? Mae'n dweud y gwirionedd. Felly beth byddwch chi'n ei ddysgu, y rhesymau rydych chi'n eu cymryd,
[50:46.000 -> 50:48.000] y gwaith o'r busnes?
[50:48.000 -> 50:50.000] Dwy ffyrdd o busnesau,
[50:50.000 -> 50:52.000] yw rhoi penderfyniad i'r dynion.
[50:52.000 -> 50:54.000] Dyna'r penderfyniad.
[50:54.000 -> 50:56.000] Gallwch ddyniodd.
[50:56.000 -> 50:58.000] Dwi ddim yn dweud i chi,
[50:58.000 -> 51:00.000] dylech chi ddweud gwahaniaeth i dynion.
[51:00.000 -> 51:02.000] Dwi ddim wedi dweud hynny.
[51:02.000 -> 51:04.000] Os ydych chi eisiau gwahaniaeth i dynion,
[51:04.000 -> 51:06.720] gwahaniaeth i dynion, os ydych do is create a choice. There is a male focused brand, gender neutral brand, female brand.
[51:06.760 -> 51:07.760] You have the choice.
[51:08.280 -> 51:09.400] That's all I believe in.
[51:09.720 -> 51:14.640] And then when Jack's mission is about giving information to people who don't
[51:14.640 -> 51:19.160] get access to it at a click of a button and become the coolest mental health
[51:19.160 -> 51:23.520] brand on the planet, because I'm telling you now, young people, the way it's
[51:23.520 -> 51:26.940] educated at the minute mental health, it isn't going to get through.
[51:26.940 -> 51:32.180] If I can create a core mental health brand that's cool and relevant, people will be like,
[51:32.180 -> 51:34.900] okay, well, it's just normal now, I can ask a question.
[51:34.900 -> 51:38.140] So your core mission is always the same.
[51:38.140 -> 51:41.180] But you can then, of course, you have to adapt, but it's really important about having that
[51:41.180 -> 51:48.080] drive and, you know, with this new platform, I genuinely believe it will transform everything on the way you access. I'm not saying it's replacing anything,
[51:48.640 -> 51:54.080] the feeling you get from messages, right? Jack, you talk about your own personal story a lot,
[51:54.880 -> 52:00.160] right, about school and I'm dyslexic. So when I was at school, I didn't know I was dyslexic
[52:00.720 -> 52:03.600] and I was left-handed as well, right? So I wrote like that and I was dyslexic.
[52:04.320 -> 52:09.040] For seven lessons on my own, they put me in to teach me how to hold a fucking pen
[52:09.040 -> 52:14.360] properly and it was nothing about how I spelt and all I could think about ever
[52:14.360 -> 52:17.280] was I'm holding this pen right. It's not affected my life whatsoever. The only
[52:17.280 -> 52:19.440] thing that's affected me is that people don't know I'm left-handed because I
[52:19.440 -> 52:23.160] don't write like that and for me it's around dyslexia for me I didn't
[52:23.160 -> 52:26.220] understand it and I just thought well that I see I'm thick I'm stupid
[52:26.320 -> 52:27.920] We're now on Jack you can go on there
[52:27.920 -> 52:33.760] We've got dyslexic section with experts on there who tell you the positive impact of dyslexia and uses different part of your brain
[52:34.280 -> 52:37.480] 40% of self-made millionaires ever are dyslexic
[52:38.000 -> 52:39.820] Right, because you use a different part of your brain
[52:39.820 -> 52:46.080] So for me if I was told at a younger age or understood, well, you're never going to be amazing at that, but concentrate on that.
[52:46.080 -> 52:47.080] Fucking hell, mate.
[52:48.480 -> 52:52.680] Among all of this success and accolades
[52:52.680 -> 52:55.440] and investments and awards,
[52:55.440 -> 53:00.000] how often do you stop and reflect on that struggling
[53:00.000 -> 53:01.280] 17, 18 year old guy?
[53:01.280 -> 53:03.920] And I wonder what he would make of,
[53:03.920 -> 53:05.520] makes even me emotional thinking about it. I wonder what he would make of the guy sitting in that chair right now. 17, 18-oed gwaith a gofyniaf beth byddai'n ei wneud, mae'n gwneud i mi hefyd yn meddwl amdano,
[53:05.520 -> 53:07.000] gofyniaf beth byddai'n ei wneud o'r dyn
[53:07.000 -> 53:09.000] sy'n byw yn y chair honno ar hyn o bryd.
[53:09.000 -> 53:11.000] Nid oedd yn credu ei fod.
[53:11.000 -> 53:13.000] Nid oedd yn credu ei fod, oherwydd
[53:13.000 -> 53:15.000] pan ydych chi yn y moment honno
[53:15.000 -> 53:17.000] ac mae'n ddifrif,
[53:17.000 -> 53:18.000] ydych chi'n gweld nad oes ffordd i allu allan.
[53:18.000 -> 53:19.000] Roeddwn i bob amser yn eisiau gwneud rhywbeth,
[53:19.000 -> 53:20.000] ond dweud, na allwn i ddweud hynny,
[53:20.000 -> 53:22.000] yn enwedig yn y sefyllfa rydw i yn,
[53:22.000 -> 53:24.000] rydw i wedi gomisio i chi,
[53:24.000 -> 53:27.080] ac os oeddwn i'n gallu mynd yn ôl, yr hyn sy'n mynd i ddweud wrth fy hun do that, especially the position I was in. I promised you. And if I could go back, all
[53:27.080 -> 53:31.040] I'd say to myself is you're going to be alright, that's it. Because when you're in the moment,
[53:31.040 -> 53:35.880] you can't see away. And do you know, I mean, I have big ideas and stuff, but when you're
[53:35.880 -> 53:39.800] in the moment, that's why I want Jack to do this because there's so many people out there
[53:39.800 -> 53:43.000] who don't see a way out, I'm not going to get better, or there isn't an opportunity
[53:43.000 -> 53:47.760] for me. Or if you could get and just believe in yourself, and trust me, I probably sound ddim yn gweld ffordd i ddod allan, nid ydw i'n mynd i'r ffordd i gael mwy, nid oes cyfle i mi. Os oes gennych i chi ddod allan a meddwl yn eich hun, a dywedwch wrthi, rydw i'n eithaf
[53:47.760 -> 53:51.680] hyderus, rydw i'n ymdrechu arno bob dydd. Rydw i'n debyg bod pobl yn dweud ei fod yn mynd i'r hyn,
[53:51.680 -> 53:55.840] mae'n mynd i'r hyn, ac rydw i'n ymdrechu arno. Dyna'n normal, chwaraewyr. Ond
[53:56.720 -> 54:02.960] i mi, dydw i ddim yn credu, dydw i ddim yn credu, oherwydd pan ydych chi ynddo, mae'n anodd, o'n i.
[54:03.680 -> 54:09.280] Felly, gallaf gofio cwestiwn a dydyn ni ddim weddechrau arno, ond mae wedi bod yn fy nhriog o'r ymchwil,
[54:09.280 -> 54:13.920] ac roedd yn ymgyrchol pan roeddech chi'n dweud am rai o'r ymgyrch hwn y mae gennych chi ar y cymdeithasau cymdeithasol,
[54:13.920 -> 54:18.480] am y brifysgol y mae'r brifysgol yn hyfforddi masculiniaeth ddraug a phethau fel hynny,
[54:18.480 -> 54:26.000] y byddwch chi'n grewch feldrechion toxic yn wirioneddol.
[54:26.000 -> 54:28.000] Pa mor ddiddorol oedd hynny i chi,
[54:28.000 -> 54:30.000] o ran yr hyn rydych chi wedi'i profi,
[54:30.000 -> 54:32.000] a'r byd yn eithaf real,
[54:32.000 -> 54:34.000] ac yna mae hynny wedi'i defnyddio
[54:34.000 -> 54:36.000] fel ychydig o stic i'w gynnal?
[54:36.000 -> 54:38.000] Nid oeddwn i
[54:38.000 -> 54:40.000] wedi siarad o hynny o'r blaen,
[54:40.000 -> 54:42.000] ond mae fy mam a'r tat arall
[54:42.000 -> 54:44.000] pan oeddwn i'n 6 oed,
[54:44.000 -> 54:45.440] a'r tat oedd legend. Ac rydyn ni'n gwybod beat you with? I've never actually probably ever talked about this before
[54:45.440 -> 54:50.520] but my mum and dad spelt when I was six years old, dad's a legend, he was my hero
[54:50.520 -> 54:54.600] right, great relationship they got on well, my mum did have some other
[54:54.600 -> 55:01.160] relationships just two and the second one is very violent so you know a lot
[55:01.160 -> 55:05.280] of people won't even know this but I was 13 14 to 18 she was with
[55:05.280 -> 55:10.880] this guy and I was my sister moved out so just me mum at home with him and then
[55:10.880 -> 55:16.060] drink and stuff like that it's just every night there'll be arguments then I'd know my
[55:16.060 -> 55:19.920] mom's getting beaten up and she would come out with like black and blue right
[55:19.920 -> 55:24.680] make excuses but I knew it was going on I knew it was going on and then you know
[55:24.680 -> 55:28.960] I used to go out fighting like looking for fights and I didn't know why I would do that and
[55:28.960 -> 55:33.640] then I walked in one night I was with a mate and my girlfriend at the time and
[55:33.640 -> 55:37.640] he had a knife, she was battered and he had a knife up her
[55:37.640 -> 55:47.600] and then so I walked in and you know I just fronted him up and then me and him had a bit of a to-do and I just
[55:47.600 -> 55:49.280] lucky punch and knocked him out.
[55:49.280 -> 55:54.840] And I just sat at the door with my mum and my girlfriend at the time.
[55:54.840 -> 55:58.480] But when I was listening to those arguments, I could remember lying in bed, right?
[55:58.480 -> 56:02.080] I'd lie there and I could hear it getting louder and then you know what's coming.
[56:02.080 -> 56:04.120] You know what's coming every time.
[56:04.120 -> 56:06.000] It starts like, you just hear it and then it's getting louder and then you know what's going to happen. ac yna gyda ni gwybod beth sy'n mynd. Gyda ni gwybod beth sy'n mynd bob tro. Mae'n dechrau, d'y gallwch chi ddweud,
[56:06.000 -> 56:08.000] mae'n mynd yn fwy fawr ac yna gyda ni gwybod beth sy'n mynd i ddigwydd.
[56:08.000 -> 56:10.000] Ac dyna beth rydw i'n siarad am gyda'r pethau
[56:10.000 -> 56:12.000] fel Jack,
[56:12.000 -> 56:26.000] dydw i ddim yn gwybod pan i fynd. Dwi'n dweud i chiun. Ac dyna'r hyn rydyn ni'n mynd i'r hyn gyda Jack.
[56:26.000 -> 56:28.000] Dyma ddim yn ymwneud â'r arbenigwyr,
[56:28.000 -> 56:30.000] dyma rhywun sydd wedi bod ymlaen
[56:30.000 -> 56:32.000] a deall beth rydyn ni'n bod i mewn
[56:32.000 -> 56:34.000] a gallu rhoi sylwadau.
[56:34.000 -> 56:36.000] Dydw i ddim wedi siarad amdano,
[56:36.000 -> 56:38.000] mae llawer o bobl ddim yn gwybod amdano.
[56:38.000 -> 56:40.000] Ond wrth fy ngweld i'w gael,
[56:40.000 -> 56:42.000] mae'n ddifrifol iawn.
[56:42.000 -> 56:44.000] Mae'n ddifrifol iawn, mae hynny wedi digwydd.
[56:44.000 -> 56:48.900] Dydw i ddim yn gwybod pa mor mwy mae'n effeithio ar i. Ond dwi'n gwybod, ar un peth, It's actually ridiculous that that happened Lord, I know how much it's affecting me, but I know for one thing. I didn't talk about him or go anywhere
[56:49.600 -> 56:51.720] Have you spoke to your mom about it? Yeah, I
[56:53.080 -> 56:58.920] Told her I'm gonna tell people one day about it. Hmm, and she was lying. She has to what you need to do
[57:00.000 -> 57:02.000] put my mouth I
[57:03.280 -> 57:08.480] Just feel sorry for my mom right because she just when you this is the other thing people say why don't just leave
[57:09.600 -> 57:13.160] And then you you are people now. So well, you just leave right?
[57:13.840 -> 57:18.360] What's easy is that but could you imagine if you can't something like jack and there's someone there? Why didn't you leave?
[57:19.520 -> 57:29.240] Why didn't you hmm? Because some people gonna be a bit upset about that and then they can explain, oh I get it, because it's mental health and people don't understand it. So
[57:29.240 -> 57:35.440] yeah that did, I don't know how it shaped me, but it's something I've blocked off a
[57:35.440 -> 57:40.920] lot right. But the thing is I'm not special, right, I'm not special and had all these problems
[57:40.920 -> 57:45.000] and stuff, I had an amazing life, you know, my parents were great, but everyone has stuff o'r problemau a'r coed, a'r bywydau anhygoel. Ac mae fy mhob plentyn yn dda,
[57:45.000 -> 57:47.000] ond mae pob un yn cael pethau fel hwn, mae'n digwydd iddo.
[57:47.000 -> 57:49.000] Pob un, fel y gafodd i chi,
[57:49.000 -> 57:51.000] rwy'n garanthu, rydych chi wedi cael pethau
[57:51.000 -> 57:54.000] sydd wedi digwydd i chi, ac mae'n eich gynhyrchu.
[57:54.000 -> 57:56.000] Yn ystod hyn, gallwch chi ddysgu sut i'w brosesu.
[57:56.000 -> 57:58.000] Felly dwi ddim eisiau teimlo, dwi wedi cael
[57:58.000 -> 57:59.000] pethau'n anhygoel, achos dwi ddim,
[57:59.000 -> 58:01.000] ond mae pethau sydd wedi digwydd i mi,
[58:01.000 -> 58:04.000] a dyna'n eitha' i mi i'r rhai rwy'n ymwneud â nhw heddiw.
[58:04.000 -> 58:08.000] Felly, dweud wrthym amdanoch chi fel dad, achoswydd mae'r peth hwn wedi'i ffyndio i chi,
[58:08.000 -> 58:12.000] yn amlwg, ac mae gennych ddau plentyn o blant.
[58:12.000 -> 58:16.000] Beth y gwnaethoch chi'n ei wneud yn wahanol fel dad,
[58:16.000 -> 58:18.000] fel cyfnod o hyn?
[58:18.000 -> 58:22.000] D'ydych chi'n gwybod? Rwyf bob amser eisiau bod yn dad,
[58:22.000 -> 58:25.000] bob amser. Rwy'n cofio, ers 12 oed, roeddwn i'n cerdded â chylwadau a phopeth. Or like always I remember since I was like 12, I loved kids and stuff.
[58:25.000 -> 58:30.600] They are my everything, my everything and I'm busy, I'm busy, right?
[58:30.600 -> 58:35.280] But one thing I do every day and this is like, I probably contradict what a lot of other
[58:35.280 -> 58:39.760] people say as entrepreneurship or like I've got work 24-7, I do work hard, right?
[58:39.760 -> 58:44.360] I'm in the office early and I get my stuff done but I'm home every day between 5 and
[58:44.360 -> 58:48.480] 6, 5, unless I have to do something something like last night I had to do something because
[58:48.480 -> 58:52.720] I want to be there for my kids because what is the point what's the point
[58:52.720 -> 58:57.760] fucking money I've got a nice life now very comfortable got a three bed semi
[58:57.760 -> 59:25.000] detached house you know nice life I do you know I mean like what's the just to see the first four years of a kid's life you'll never get back and that's the ac mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n dweud, mae'n mwynhau yw'r pethau rydych chi'n ei wneud ar y platfform
[59:25.000 -> 59:29.000] i helpu pobl i ddeall rhai o'r broblemau o dysmorfiaeth y dyn,
[59:29.000 -> 59:34.000] neu rhai o'r problemau cymdeithasol y gallent gyrraedd gyda nhw.
[59:34.000 -> 59:38.000] Pa ffordd rydych chi'n eu helpu i ddod o'r rhai o'r pethau
[59:38.000 -> 01:00:07.600] rydych chi'n ymgyrchu? Oherwydd, gyda'r platfform newydd, mae gennym pobeth o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r r ynglyn â phobl ifanc sydd eisiau cael sefyllfa, ond dwi ddim eisiau ei seilio ar sefyllfa, mae'n unig bywyd gynhyrchol. Rhoi wybodaeth anhygoel i bobl, gallwch yn dynnu.
[01:00:07.600 -> 01:00:11.200] A'r arall, dwi'n meddwl, dwy dydd yn ôl, roeddwn i yn y parc gyda fy mhwyr,
[01:00:11.840 -> 01:00:16.720] a ddw i'n gwrs, a ddw i'n siarad, a dweud, roedd ein plant yn chwarae,
[01:00:16.720 -> 01:00:23.200] iawn? A dweud, oh, dwi'n eich bwyn, a dweud, oh, oh, ie, mae'n autistig,
[01:00:23.760 -> 01:00:26.400] a dweud, mae'n rhan o'r ymdrechion gwaith gwastraff, yw'r ffyrdd, dwi'n dweud, And he said, oh yeah, he's autistic. And he's from a poverty background, this guy.
[01:00:26.400 -> 01:00:27.400] They've got no money.
[01:00:27.400 -> 01:00:29.840] He said, like, I only found out a year ago.
[01:00:29.840 -> 01:00:33.640] And he says, God, I just, I told him, no, that's ridiculous.
[01:00:33.640 -> 01:00:35.960] But then we did the test and he has.
[01:00:35.960 -> 01:00:39.460] And he said, all I've been doing is Google and watching YouTube stuff.
[01:00:39.460 -> 01:00:41.920] And I didn't even tell him about Jack, right.
[01:00:41.920 -> 01:00:45.040] And I was like, can you imagine if you can go to a platform that's
[01:00:45.040 -> 01:00:50.040] got autism, where you can literally ask a leading expert questions by pressing a button,
[01:00:50.040 -> 01:00:54.000] and then people as a parent, and he was like, what, is that available? I was like, he said
[01:00:54.000 -> 01:00:58.120] because the problem is he can't afford to take this son anywhere, he can't, and then
[01:00:58.120 -> 01:01:04.440] the help. And can you imagine what, just through this platform, because he said, all I've done
[01:01:04.440 -> 01:01:06.320] is I've found a family that I'm following on YouTube
[01:01:07.160 -> 01:01:11.320] Okay, now maybe imagine him just being able to go on and he was literally I shook my hands
[01:01:11.320 -> 01:01:14.560] He wrote it down. He says I can't believe what I know. I was like that
[01:01:15.400 -> 01:01:20.440] It's how easy it is, you know give people the right information because all you look at social media
[01:01:20.440 -> 01:01:22.440] How's it gone? Facebook was all about posting
[01:01:23.040 -> 01:01:26.140] Instagram move to images tik-tok video like this
[01:01:26.960 -> 01:01:33.580] How do people want to digest information quick short videos right to the point? That's exactly what I'm gonna do a chat for mental health
[01:01:34.720 -> 01:01:36.720] man, I mean what an amazing
[01:01:38.440 -> 01:01:42.380] Heart-wrenching story but also what an uplifting story because I you know
[01:01:42.380 -> 01:01:46.000] We talked so often on the high performance podcast and we try and remind people all the time that life isn't about what is dealt Ond hefyd, pa stori'n golygu? Oherwydd rydyn ni'n siarad mor ofn ar y podcast High Performance ac rydyn ni'n ceisio ymrwymo pobl y byd
[01:01:46.000 -> 01:01:48.000] nad yw bywyd ynglyn â beth sydd wedi'i ddweud
[01:01:48.000 -> 01:01:50.000] i chi.
[01:01:50.000 -> 01:01:52.000] Mae'n ymwneud â sut rydyn ni'n deall y cardiau hynny
[01:01:52.000 -> 01:01:54.000] ac rydyn ni'n
[01:01:54.000 -> 01:01:56.000] ymdrechion rhywun sydd wedi
[01:01:56.000 -> 01:01:58.000] gwneud y momentyf o ddiddorol.
[01:01:58.000 -> 01:02:00.000] Iawn, rydyn ni wedi'u gwneud i'w ddod i'w ddod i'w ddod
[01:02:00.000 -> 01:02:02.000] i'w ddod, ond mwy, mwy, mwy gwych na'u gwneud i'w ddod i'w ddod
[01:02:02.000 -> 01:02:04.000] i'w ddod i'r positif.
[01:02:04.000 -> 01:02:05.000] Rydyn ni'n ei wneud i'w ddod i'r positif ar gyfer miliwn, osr fwyaf o bobl yn eu gwneud nhw'n positif i chi. Yn ymwneud â'r ffyrdd o'r fwyaf o bobl,
[01:02:05.000 -> 01:02:07.000] os nad yw miliwn o bobl eraill.
[01:02:07.000 -> 01:02:09.000] Ac rwy'n credu bod llawer o bobl yn eich sefyllfa
[01:02:09.000 -> 01:02:12.000] yn creu gwyrdd i'r bobl a'u meddwl,
[01:02:12.000 -> 01:02:15.000] dwi'n gallu bod yn ddiogel a'n ymdrech.
[01:02:15.000 -> 01:02:17.000] Ac rydych chi eisiau gwneud mwy na hynny.
[01:02:17.000 -> 01:02:19.000] Rydych chi'n ymwneud â'r gynllun.
[01:02:19.000 -> 01:02:22.000] Ond rwy'n credu bod y pwysau'n fwy gwych,
[01:02:22.000 -> 01:02:24.000] mae'n fwy gwych.
[01:02:24.000 -> 01:02:27.460] Ac rwy'n credu bod pobl yn meddwl os oes gennych problemau iechyd mentol, But I think the biggest thing is you're brave man, so brave and um, I think people often think if you've got mental health problems
[01:02:27.460 -> 01:02:31.100] then you're not brave and you're actually a wimp or you're weak or you're scared and
[01:02:31.860 -> 01:02:38.180] To have this conversation to remind people that if you're struggling you're strong because you have to be strong to deal with the struggle is
[01:02:38.340 -> 01:02:40.340] um
[01:02:41.540 -> 01:02:43.540] Amazing
[01:02:43.860 -> 01:02:46.080] Sorry about that.
[01:02:46.080 -> 01:02:52.560] You know what, you don't have to apologise mate because it's just not, and everyone's
[01:02:52.560 -> 01:02:53.560] got it mate.
[01:02:53.560 -> 01:02:58.240] Yes, that's the point. I just wish that, I just wish people who are struggling right
[01:02:58.240 -> 01:03:02.360] now would hear this and then react. Do you know what I mean? Because they don't have
[01:03:02.360 -> 01:03:09.760] to. Like, you know, you probably, you threw away a couple of years. You didn't enjoy probably ten years and like that's less
[01:03:10.280 -> 01:03:12.640] Could be a quarter of your life. You know what? I mean? They're like
[01:03:13.440 -> 01:03:15.440] And there's so many people walking around
[01:03:16.360 -> 01:03:18.480] really hurting and like
[01:03:19.320 -> 01:03:24.960] It's the word though. My mental health is like attached as this thing where when we talk about these conditions
[01:03:24.960 -> 01:03:27.500] Everyone thinks that's what it is to me. Like boy it's got to be something
[01:03:27.500 -> 01:03:31.100] really bad but what I want to do with Jack is prove that mental health is every minute
[01:03:31.100 -> 01:03:34.620] of it, it's everything. And you can't just, and it's not about just surviving, like you
[01:03:34.620 -> 01:03:38.740] could fly, you could have mental health problems. Absolutely. And you can fly, you can have
[01:03:38.740 -> 01:03:43.180] an amazing life. As long as you learn to manage it, like people have done amazing things,
[01:03:43.180 -> 01:03:48.480] like with like dyslexia is just one that people, as soon as your brain changes to like, actually, well, I don't,
[01:03:48.480 -> 01:03:50.760] you know, you're never going to be good at fucking spelling.
[01:03:50.760 -> 01:03:52.320] I'm never going to be able to spell properly.
[01:03:52.320 -> 01:03:53.320] All right, that's fine.
[01:03:53.320 -> 01:03:54.320] But you know what I'm good at?
[01:03:54.320 -> 01:03:56.240] I was really good at sport.
[01:03:56.240 -> 01:03:58.040] And actually, I'm really good at maths.
[01:03:58.040 -> 01:04:01.960] And actually, I've just like, I can do these things over here a bit creative, but that's
[01:04:01.960 -> 01:04:02.960] how my brain's fit.
[01:04:02.960 -> 01:04:06.240] And once you understand that, the shackles come off.
[01:04:06.240 -> 01:04:07.680] You know, but a lot of the time,
[01:04:07.680 -> 01:04:09.080] I actually know, and see what you need to do,
[01:04:09.080 -> 01:04:12.120] you need to spend four hours, five hours worrying about
[01:04:12.120 -> 01:04:14.060] how you hold a fucking pencil.
[01:04:15.060 -> 01:04:16.520] Because you can't, and we've got to really work
[01:04:16.520 -> 01:04:17.360] on your spelling.
[01:04:19.040 -> 01:04:20.440] No, I don't, because I'm never going to get it.
[01:04:20.440 -> 01:04:21.800] As long as I can manage.
[01:04:21.800 -> 01:04:22.880] Thank you so much for coming on here
[01:04:22.880 -> 01:04:25.520] and sharing that with us.
[01:04:25.520 -> 01:04:26.400] Thanks guys.
[01:04:26.400 -> 01:04:30.280] Tell us, how are you now in terms of your mental health?
[01:04:30.280 -> 01:04:33.680] I'm in a really, the best place I've probably been ever
[01:04:33.680 -> 01:04:36.280] in my life, but I still struggle.
[01:04:36.280 -> 01:04:37.160] That's the thing.
[01:04:37.160 -> 01:04:40.200] I still have moments, but I know they'll be there.
[01:04:40.200 -> 01:04:43.120] And it's not a case of I'm going to be perfect forever,
[01:04:43.120 -> 01:04:44.480] but I've learned to manage it.
[01:04:44.480 -> 01:04:46.480] I've learned, you know, when I'm struggling gettingn anodd i'w gysylltu, rydw i wedi dysgu i ddewis,
[01:04:46.480 -> 01:04:50.080] ac rydw i'n gwybod, ond dyna'n drwy ddysgu dros 20 mlynedd,
[01:04:50.080 -> 01:04:53.840] neu 25 mlynedd, yn wir, ond yr hyn rydw i eisiau ei wneud yw helpu pobl i ddysgu yn fwy cyflym
[01:04:53.840 -> 01:04:57.280] na 25 mlynedd, ac nid cael y 10 mlynedd sydd wedi'i gyrraedd,
[01:04:57.280 -> 01:04:58.640] neu y ddau mlynedd yn enwedig.
[01:04:59.600 -> 01:05:03.040] A oes hynny'n llawer i mi fyddio'n ddiddorol pan ddweudwch am y 10 mlynedd
[01:05:03.040 -> 01:05:09.000] rhwng ddechrau pwysigol a'r pwynt o'r crisi.
[01:05:09.000 -> 01:05:25.380] Felly, pa sylwadau'r argyfwng ar gyfer y gwir i unrhyw un o'r pwynt potentiol a'r gallant eu cymryd cyn i'w dynnu'n cymryd eu hunain fel crisi? itself as a crisis. So this is, I'm not just trying to promote Jack, but this is the problem
[01:05:25.380 -> 01:05:29.320] that's always been for me, right? Everything's based on crisis. So at the moment people year
[01:05:29.320 -> 01:05:33.200] in, two years in, or I'm not sure how I'm feeling, am I this, am I that, don't understand
[01:05:33.200 -> 01:05:36.880] what it is they're feeling. So people can even think they might have depression, but
[01:05:36.880 -> 01:05:40.320] they may not have it, right? They might just be, well, that's just normal. And actually
[01:05:40.320 -> 01:05:48.100] you can get through it like this. But at the moment to get that information is almost, not impossible, but where do you go? And if, like, look, if you
[01:05:48.100 -> 01:05:53.080] Google something, you've got a headache, you're gonna die. Yeah. You know, Alice who's on
[01:05:53.080 -> 01:05:58.420] the platform, her brother died of, committed suicide, and they went on his
[01:05:58.420 -> 01:06:06.600] Google search and he put in, he was searching how to kill himself. You know, I'm not that's very extreme.
[01:06:06.600 -> 01:06:08.800] But the problem is I imagine a platform hijack.
[01:06:08.800 -> 01:06:11.300] This is we also well, you have to talk you talk here.
[01:06:11.300 -> 01:06:14.200] We get it, but I think we're going to be a long way still to people.
[01:06:14.200 -> 01:06:16.600] I've got like, oh, I'm feeling so I need to talk about it.
[01:06:16.600 -> 01:06:19.400] Imagine go to a platform do some diving speak to some experts.
[01:06:19.400 -> 01:06:23.700] These people in the experience go actually, I think I'm actually feeling like that.
[01:06:23.700 -> 01:06:25.680] My mother-in-law right she
[01:06:26.680 -> 01:06:30.400] Doesn't sleep can't sleep our two hours an eye
[01:06:30.840 -> 01:06:35.960] Sleep expert in the platform. She tests all the experiences for me the conversations and she was like
[01:06:35.960 -> 01:06:42.160] I can't believe the amount I got from sleeping and she's sleeping better because of it just because she's got information some tips
[01:06:42.840 -> 01:06:44.840] So but that you know me
[01:06:42.160 -> 01:06:42.840] Just because she's got information some tips
[01:06:44.840 -> 01:06:45.520] So but that's you know me
[01:06:48.440 -> 01:06:48.760] Until she's not sleeping at all then go to doctors. Well, here's some pills
[01:06:50.160 -> 01:06:56.880] I'm not saying that's what would happen But that's potentially what could happen where if she does it earlier and start some tips and stuff right information from leading people
[01:06:57.040 -> 01:07:02.280] That's free and easy accessible and you're not judged because you do it online and it feels like a conversation
[01:07:02.800 -> 01:07:04.800] You might just in schools mate
[01:07:03.280 -> 01:07:05.160] you can do it online and it feels like a conversation. Can you imagine this in schools, mate?
[01:07:05.160 -> 01:07:06.480] Can you imagine how we educate young people?
[01:07:06.480 -> 01:07:08.600] Imagine using Jack as a platform where,
[01:07:08.600 -> 01:07:11.400] okay, we've just done a thing, we're doing stuff,
[01:07:11.400 -> 01:07:13.800] big celebrities come on, we've got football teams interested.
[01:07:13.800 -> 01:07:15.680] Imagine young fans being asked to ask questions
[01:07:15.680 -> 01:07:17.720] to their idols about mental health,
[01:07:17.720 -> 01:07:18.980] but it's not mental health, right?
[01:07:18.980 -> 01:07:19.820] So you can ask about,
[01:07:19.820 -> 01:07:20.960] oh, what was the funniest thing you ever did here?
[01:07:20.960 -> 01:07:22.440] And then there's some good questions about,
[01:07:22.440 -> 01:07:23.920] how do you manage stress?
[01:07:23.920 -> 01:07:25.680] Do you get worried before a game? Like that is where kids can ask a question mae'r peth mwyaf ddiddorol yw'r cwmni a'r cwestiynau dda. Sut ydych chi'n gallu ymdrechu? Ydych chi'n cael teimlo'n fawr cyn y gêm?
[01:07:25.680 -> 01:07:28.240] Dyna'r lle y gallant gofyn cwestiwn,
[01:07:28.240 -> 01:07:32.240] yn hytrach na'r llanyard o'r dechrau
[01:07:32.240 -> 01:07:34.080] yn ymdrech at nhw a'u gofyn am rywbeth.
[01:07:34.080 -> 01:07:35.000] Byddant yn mynd allan.
[01:07:35.000 -> 01:07:38.640] Ond rwy'n credu bod un o'ch stori'n heroedd
[01:07:38.640 -> 01:07:40.560] yn Obi, eich gwrthwyneb Obi.
[01:07:40.560 -> 01:07:42.240] Ar gyfer unrhyw un o'ch gweithwyr
[01:07:42.240 -> 01:07:45.000] sy'n gwybod eu bod yn angen mynd i Jack.
[01:07:46.000 -> 01:07:51.000] Beth y gallwn ni i gyd ei wneud i fod yn obi yn bywydau rhywun arall?
[01:07:51.000 -> 01:07:54.000] I yna, efallai, i ddweud wrthym i Jack fel pwysau arall.
[01:07:54.000 -> 01:07:59.000] Yn unig, dwi ddim yn prifysgol Jack.
[01:07:59.000 -> 01:08:00.000] Yn unig y gallwch chi ddod o hyd i hyn,
[01:08:00.000 -> 01:08:03.000] os ydych chi'n deall rhywbeth o ran rhywun,
[01:08:03.000 -> 01:08:07.520] dyna i mi, mae obi wedi deall bod angen i mi amser, ond weithiau mae'n anodd iawn i bobl, fel ffrind, it if you understand something from someone's perspective right that is for me that Obi just understood that I needed time but sometimes it's very
[01:08:07.520 -> 01:08:11.440] difficult for people like a friend to know what to do like for each condition
[01:08:11.440 -> 01:08:15.920] or each way someone is I think it's a little bit different but 100% it's to
[01:08:15.920 -> 01:08:19.440] listen don't try and suggest what you know all the time it's just about
[01:08:19.440 -> 01:08:24.160] listening and saying do you wanna have a chat mate? Do you wanna tell me? But I
[01:08:24.160 -> 01:08:26.320] still think it's very difficult to do that
[01:08:26.320 -> 01:08:27.960] for a lot of people in that position.
[01:08:27.960 -> 01:08:29.760] And the other side, just quickly, as a mate,
[01:08:29.760 -> 01:08:31.400] as long as you say you're there for them,
[01:08:31.400 -> 01:08:34.360] don't push anything on them, that is unbelievable.
[01:08:34.360 -> 01:08:36.200] You know, Obi, I knew he was there.
[01:08:36.200 -> 01:08:37.280] Do you know one little thing he did,
[01:08:37.280 -> 01:08:38.280] he didn't even mean to do it, don't worry,
[01:08:38.280 -> 01:08:40.360] as much time as you need.
[01:08:40.360 -> 01:08:42.440] Fucking hell, that feeling, he didn't have to say anything.
[01:08:42.440 -> 01:08:43.280] Yeah.
[01:08:43.280 -> 01:08:46.800] We finished with our quickfire questions on the High Performance Podcast.
[01:08:46.800 -> 01:08:52.800] And the first one is, whether it's running Jack, whether it's running your amazingly successful business,
[01:08:52.800 -> 01:08:59.360] or the people that you invite into your world, what are the three non-negotiables that the people around you have to buy into?
[01:08:59.360 -> 01:09:02.720] Passion, for me. Passion about something.
[01:09:02.720 -> 01:09:05.200] In terms of business perspective, how do you
[01:09:05.200 -> 01:09:12.720] say the word punctuality? On time, right? Punctuality, just to be on time and be consistently
[01:09:12.720 -> 01:09:21.960] average. Not up, not down. Yeah, or not average, just reliability, right? So there are probably
[01:09:21.960 -> 01:09:25.240] three things, just so I can, you know where you are with someone, ife, ie. So, yna mae'r tri pethau, i gyd, i gyd, rydych chi'n gwybod pa lle rydych chi,
[01:09:25.240 -> 01:09:26.320] i unrhyw un, os mae hynny'n synnydd.
[01:09:26.320 -> 01:09:27.320] Ie, ie, ie.
[01:09:27.320 -> 01:09:29.960] Pa eich gwych fawr a'ch gwaith fawr?
[01:09:29.960 -> 01:09:31.520] Y gwych fawr
[01:09:31.520 -> 01:09:32.880] yw'n debyg, os byddai rhywun yn gofyn i mi
[01:09:32.880 -> 01:09:34.240] gysylltu â
[01:09:34.240 -> 01:09:36.000] busnes,
[01:09:36.000 -> 01:09:37.240] gallwch chi ddweud dros y contract
[01:09:37.240 -> 01:09:38.320] neu gallwch chi ein cynhyrchu
[01:09:38.320 -> 01:09:40.000] gyda ddogfen.
[01:09:40.000 -> 01:09:41.560] Jesus,
[01:09:41.560 -> 01:09:43.440] dyna'r gweithgareddau,
[01:09:43.440 -> 01:09:44.600] gwych.
[01:09:44.600 -> 01:09:46.720] Gwych yw'n debyg creadigol a syniadau. Rydych chi'n syniadau, nid yw', strength is probably creativity and ideas.
[01:09:47.440 -> 01:09:49.520] You're an ideas man, not a details man.
[01:09:49.520 -> 01:09:52.000] Absolutely, yeah. I like detail but not...
[01:09:52.000 -> 01:09:55.200] You can get other people to do the detail, you can do the ideas.
[01:09:55.200 -> 01:09:58.640] Yeah, I struggled at the beginning when I had to do it all from what is for you to do.
[01:09:58.640 -> 01:10:01.600] If you could go back to one moment in your life, what would it be and why?
[01:10:02.160 -> 01:10:06.000] Um, 12 years old, at that second, on the playground. y byddai'n ymwneud â hynny, a pha? 12 oed ar y sefydliad
[01:10:06.000 -> 01:10:08.000] ar y pwynt.
[01:10:08.000 -> 01:10:10.000] A oes gennych chi gwybod? Oherwydd os nad oes gennych
[01:10:10.000 -> 01:10:12.000] y moment hwnnw, byddai'r pethau rydw i wedi'u dilyn
[01:10:12.000 -> 01:10:14.000] er mwyn eu bod yn digwydd.
[01:10:14.000 -> 01:10:16.000] Mae'r ail beth, oherwydd mae pobl yn dweud wrthi, a oes gennych chi gyd yn mynd yn ôl i newid pethau?
[01:10:16.000 -> 01:10:18.000] Dwi'n dweud, gwirioneddol, na. Dyna'n fy
[01:10:18.000 -> 01:10:20.000] gynllun gwirioneddol. Dwi'n dweud, oherwydd
[01:10:20.000 -> 01:10:22.000] dwi'n credu yn ffyrdd, oherwydd
[01:10:22.000 -> 01:10:24.000] mae'n ddifrifol, os nad oes gennifo'r moment hwnnw,
[01:10:24.000 -> 01:10:29.440] ond os oes gennifo'r moment hwnnw, dwi'n gwybod, leaving fate right or manifestation like if I hadn't had that moment but if I could go back or I had to just to let me know just that would be alright that's
[01:10:29.440 -> 01:10:33.040] it and finally your kind of final message or these people listening to
[01:10:33.040 -> 01:10:36.140] this what would you want to leave them as your one golden rule for living a
[01:10:36.140 -> 01:10:40.480] high-performance life believe in yourself yeah no I know it's probably
[01:10:40.480 -> 01:10:45.200] but I didn't for a long time I still don don't to now, but, and the other thing,
[01:10:45.200 -> 01:10:47.400] sorry, sorry, do something you're passionate about
[01:10:47.400 -> 01:10:48.560] if you can, right?
[01:10:48.560 -> 01:10:50.180] And listen, that does not have to be
[01:10:50.180 -> 01:10:51.440] a multi-million pound business,
[01:10:51.440 -> 01:10:53.620] being an entrepreneur, being a founder.
[01:10:55.040 -> 01:10:58.880] If you are happy and you're passionate about family,
[01:10:58.880 -> 01:11:02.400] about whatever it is, and you're happy with where you are,
[01:11:02.400 -> 01:11:03.600] you're in the top 1%.
[01:11:03.600 -> 01:11:12.560] Mate, thank you so much for that Damien, Jake, I'm honestly not sure what else there is to kind of add to that
[01:11:12.560 -> 01:11:16.240] conversation I think with Danny I just um I just think what he's doing is
[01:11:16.240 -> 01:11:19.200] incredible yeah I had one word to describe it was just
[01:11:19.200 -> 01:11:24.240] blimey like when we sat there it was blew me away just somebody prepared to
[01:11:24.240 -> 01:11:26.000] come and talk so openly about his body dysmorphia Cyn hyn, wrth iddo, roedd hwnnw'n ddiddorol iawn. Roedd hwnnw'n ddiddorol iawn. Roedd hwnnw'n ddiddorol iawn.
[01:11:26.000 -> 01:11:28.000] Roedd hwnnw'n ddiddorol iawn.
[01:11:28.000 -> 01:11:30.000] Roedd hwnnw'n ddiddorol iawn.
[01:11:30.000 -> 01:11:32.000] Roedd hwnnw'n ddiddorol iawn.
[01:11:32.000 -> 01:11:34.000] Roedd hwnnw'n ddiddorol iawn.
[01:11:34.000 -> 01:11:36.000] Roedd hwnnw'n ddiddorol iawn.
[01:11:36.000 -> 01:11:38.000] Roedd hwnnw'n ddiddorol iawn.
[01:11:38.000 -> 01:11:40.000] Roedd hwnnw'n ddiddorol iawn.
[01:11:40.000 -> 01:11:42.000] Roedd hwnnw'n ddiddorol iawn.
[01:11:42.000 -> 01:11:44.000] Roedd hwnnw'n ddiddorol iawn.
[01:11:44.000 -> 01:11:46.720] Roedd hwnnw'n ddiddorol iawn. Roedd hwnnw'n dd o'r cyfansodd. Ac rydyn ni wedi gweld, yn aml iawn, yw'r podcast hwn y bydd y prifadriaethau traumaol yn gallu cynyddu
[01:11:46.720 -> 01:11:48.880] i ddewis cyfansoddau anhygoel, ac rwy'n credu
[01:11:48.880 -> 01:11:52.240] ei fod yn gwneud rhywbeth anhygoel gyda'i platfform iechyd mental.
[01:11:52.240 -> 01:11:53.800] Ac rwy'n gwybod y gall pobl
[01:11:53.800 -> 01:11:55.760] clywed'r podcast hwn mewn unrhyw wlad
[01:11:55.760 -> 01:11:57.440] y byd, ar unrhyw amser, ond y diwrnod
[01:11:57.440 -> 01:12:01.640] rydyn ni wedi'i ddod allan yw Dydd Iechyd Mental.
[01:12:01.640 -> 01:12:04.360] Ac rwy'n gobeithio iawn, er mwyn i un unig person
[01:12:04.360 -> 01:12:07.000] fod yn cyrraedd, neu un un person Dwi'n gobeithio y byddwn yn gweithio ar y diwrnod o ddysgu, ac rwy'n gobeithio, er mwyn i unig un o'i gysylltiadau
[01:12:07.000 -> 01:12:09.000] neu un unwynt,
[01:12:09.000 -> 01:12:11.000] yw'n ymdrechu i siarad,
[01:12:11.000 -> 01:12:13.000] i ddod allan i'r help,
[01:12:13.000 -> 01:12:15.000] byddai wedi gwneud ei swydd.
[01:12:15.000 -> 01:12:17.000] Rwy'n credu,
[01:12:17.000 -> 01:12:19.000] mae Danny yn newid bywydau bob dydd,
[01:12:19.000 -> 01:12:21.000] ac nid oes unrhyw beth mwy y gallwn ei wneud yng nghyfnod hwn,
[01:12:21.000 -> 01:12:23.000] nid ydw i'n credu,
[01:12:23.000 -> 01:12:28.000] na'i ddod allan yn le mwy gwych na'r ffordd rydyn ni'n ei ddod allan. Ie, os oedd un f'r fathau a ddod allan i mi o'r hyn a ddweud o Dan, o'r ffaith bod o'r oerion o'r crisi o iechyd meddwl
[01:12:28.000 -> 01:12:32.000] i'r moment lle mae'r mwyaf o bobl yn gofyn help, mae'n 10 mlynedd
[01:12:32.000 -> 01:12:34.000] ac os oes gwybodaeth y gallwch ei roi i bobl yma,
[01:12:34.000 -> 01:12:36.000] ddim yn gwaith i ddod allan i'r pwynt o'r crisi,
[01:12:36.000 -> 01:12:40.000] y rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r moment lle rydych chi'n
[01:12:40.000 -> 01:12:42.000] ymweld â gweithio ar gyfer gweithredu.
[01:12:42.000 -> 01:12:44.000] Mae iechyd meddwl ddim yn swydd,
[01:12:44.000 -> 01:12:46.000] dydyn ni ddim ei gael neu dydyn ni ddim eu cael neu ddim.
[01:12:46.000 -> 01:12:48.000] Mae'n ymwneud â'r iechyd mentaleu,
[01:12:48.000 -> 01:12:50.000] ond mae'n ffyrdd gwahanol.
[01:12:50.000 -> 01:12:52.000] Ac os ydych chi'n cymhau unrhyw beth,
[01:12:52.000 -> 01:12:54.000] ddim yn ei gael.
[01:12:54.000 -> 01:12:56.000] Mae gennych y gweithle Jack,
[01:12:56.000 -> 01:12:58.000] ond ymchwilwch ac ddod i'r gynhyrchol
[01:12:58.000 -> 01:13:00.000] o'ch ffrind, fel ei gwrs, Obi.
[01:13:00.000 -> 01:13:02.000] Ddweud wrth y bobl,
[01:13:02.000 -> 01:13:04.000] yw'r ymwneud. Cysylltiwch.
[01:13:04.000 -> 01:13:06.000] Yn amlwg, roeddwn i'n rhedeg yn rhedeg fy hunanol yn ymdrech i'r bobl. Unig yw gysylltu. Yn amlwg, roeddwn i'n
[01:13:06.000 -> 01:13:08.000] yn rhedeg fy hun yn eich eich eich hymysgol,
[01:13:08.000 -> 01:13:10.000] ond rydw i'n ceisio
[01:13:10.000 -> 01:13:12.000] i'w gwneud
[01:13:12.000 -> 01:13:14.000] yw ein bod ni'n meddwl
[01:13:14.000 -> 01:13:16.000] bod y crisi meddwl iechyd yn
[01:13:16.000 -> 01:13:18.000] ariannol, ond mae'r mwyaf a'r fwyaf
[01:13:18.000 -> 01:13:20.000] a'r fwyaf y bobl sy'n gwneud y pethau sy'n eu gwreiddio
[01:13:20.000 -> 01:13:22.000] y byddent yn ymdrech ar y problemau meddwl.
[01:13:22.000 -> 01:13:24.000] Os ydych chi'n cael anxietaeth
[01:13:24.000 -> 01:13:25.000] ac ydych chi'n ddiddor, dwi'n dd chi'n hoffi, dwi'n gobeithio, dwi'n gobeithio,
[01:13:25.000 -> 01:13:26.000] i gael fy nghymryd yn y cyhoedd,
[01:13:26.000 -> 01:13:28.000] oherwydd mae gennych anxio amdano.
[01:13:28.000 -> 01:13:30.000] Ac yna yw'n gwneud hynny.
[01:13:30.000 -> 01:13:31.000] Dydyn ni ddim yn ymgyrch,
[01:13:31.000 -> 01:13:32.000] neu dydyn ni ddim yn anodd,
[01:13:32.000 -> 01:13:33.000] oherwydd ydych chi'n barod
[01:13:33.000 -> 01:13:34.000] o fod yn y cyhoedd,
[01:13:34.000 -> 01:13:35.000] dydych chi'n ddymorol oherwydd
[01:13:35.000 -> 01:13:36.000] dydych chi wedi mynd allan yn y cyhoedd.
[01:13:36.000 -> 01:13:37.000] I'r mwyaf o bobl, dyna ddim yn beth.
[01:13:37.000 -> 01:13:38.000] Iawn.
[01:13:38.000 -> 01:13:39.000] Ac rwy'n gobeithio i bobl
[01:13:39.000 -> 01:13:40.000] i'w gynllunio eu meddwl,
[01:13:40.000 -> 01:13:41.000] mewn gwirionedd,
[01:13:41.000 -> 01:13:42.000] am beth yw'r broblemau iechyd mental.
[01:13:42.000 -> 01:13:43.000] Dyna ddim, dyna ddim yn anodd,
[01:13:43.000 -> 01:13:44.000] dyna'n ddymor.
[01:13:44.000 -> 01:14:08.000] Wel, un o'r nifer o bethau rydw i'n ymd o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o'r ffordd y byddai'n dweud o' hun yn anodd, rwy'n credu, yw ddiddordeb anhygoel a gallan nhw ddweud amdano.
[01:14:08.000 -> 01:14:11.360] Rwy'n credu, rwy'n cofio pan ddweudwn am y podcast, fe dweudwch
[01:14:11.360 -> 01:14:14.000] eich bod chi am eu plant i allu clywed arno pan
[01:14:14.000 -> 01:14:17.040] maen nhw'n adolygiadau a dweud dyna beth roedd fy mab yn ei styried.
[01:14:17.040 -> 01:14:19.600] Ac rwy'n credu os nad oes unrhyw beth na'r blaent chi'n clywed chi
[01:14:19.600 -> 01:14:22.560] siarad yn dda iawn am hynny,
[01:14:22.560 -> 01:14:24.560] rydych chi wedi gwneud gwahaniaeth i bywydau hefyd.
[01:14:24.560 -> 01:14:28.520] Mae'n dda iawn i chi, rydych chi'n dda iawn. Diolch am So openly about that You've made a difference to lives as well. So nice of you. You're a good man. Thanks for thanks for sharing that conversation
[01:14:28.520 -> 01:14:30.520] No, thank you, babe
[01:14:31.240 -> 01:14:35.640] There's only one thing I really want you to do with this episode and I want you to do it with this episode more than
[01:14:35.640 -> 01:14:41.560] Any other that we've ever recorded because I think this episode is the most important episode that we've ever recorded
[01:14:41.880 -> 01:14:46.120] It's the brutal raw honest truth about struggling with
[01:14:46.120 -> 01:14:49.840] your mental health. And there are people that you know, trust me, many people that
[01:14:49.840 -> 01:14:53.920] you know right now who are struggling with their mental health. And they won't
[01:14:53.920 -> 01:14:57.760] have told you. There's a strong chance they haven't told anyone. And this
[01:14:57.760 -> 01:15:01.840] episode might just be the catalyst for them to seek help, for them to realize
[01:15:01.840 -> 01:15:05.260] that they're not alone. So please, pass this episode to
[01:15:05.260 -> 01:15:10.460] just one person. Spread it among your group, stick it in your WhatsApp, ask your colleagues
[01:15:10.460 -> 01:15:15.140] to listen to it, and let's spread the learnings and the lessons from the things that Danny
[01:15:15.140 -> 01:15:18.540] shared with us today. And can I just say a very special thanks to Danny for coming on
[01:15:18.540 -> 01:15:23.380] and talking in the way that he did. Thanks as well to the whole team for their hard work
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