The Max and Alex Show

On this edition of Talking Bull - We sit down with Max and Alex for the first time on the podcast. We know what these two are like on the race track but what will we uncover when we put them face to face in the studio? We also catch up with South African Rugby captain and Red Bull athlete Siya Kolisi to chat F1, cars and the Rugby World Cup. Also hear ‘The Sound of Synergy' by London producer Mark Knight and discover how he created a piece of music using the sounds of our F1 car.

**Podcast Episode Summary: Aston Martin Red Bull Racing's "Talking Bull"**

**Hosts:** Nicola Hume

**Guests:**

* Max Verstappen
* Alex Albon
* Sier Khaleesi (South African rugby captain and Red Bull athlete)
* Mark Knight (London producer)

**Key Points:**

* Max Verstappen and Alex Albon, Red Bull Racing's Formula One drivers, engage in a lighthearted Q&A session, sharing anecdotes and insights from their racing careers.

* Verstappen and Albon discuss their childhood karting experiences and reveal some of their embarrassing moments, including incidents involving going to the toilet during races and funny encounters on the track.

* The drivers also delve into their personal lives, sharing details about their families and hobbies.

* South African rugby captain Sier Khaleesi joins the podcast to discuss his experiences at the Japanese Grand Prix, his admiration for the Red Bull Racing team, and the similarities between rugby and Formula One in terms of teamwork and communication.

* Khaleesi expresses his excitement about the potential for Red Bull and Honda's partnership and shares his aspirations to inspire young people in South Africa through his role as a Red Bull athlete.

* London producer Mark Knight explains the creative process behind composing "The Sound of Synergy," a piece of music using the sounds of a Red Bull Racing F1 car.

* Knight describes how he transformed the raw engine sounds into musical elements, such as basslines and lead melodies, to capture the energy and power of the Formula One car.

**Overall Message:**

The podcast provides an entertaining and informative look into the world of Formula One racing, offering insights into the drivers' experiences, the team dynamics, and the passion that surrounds the sport. It also highlights the innovative collaboration between Red Bull Racing and Esso, resulting in the creation of a unique musical piece that celebrates the synergy between man and machine.

[00:00.000 -> 00:03.360] Hi there, this is Christian Horner.
[00:03.360 -> 00:06.360] You've won the Austrian Grand Prix!
[00:06.360 -> 00:08.360] Hi, it's Alex Albon.
[00:08.360 -> 00:12.360] Hi, I'm Max Verstappen and you're listening to the Aston Martin Rebel Racing Podcast.
[00:12.360 -> 00:15.360] Oh, this feels good!
[00:17.360 -> 00:21.360] Hello and welcome to Talking Bull, the official Aston Martin Rebel Racing Podcast.
[00:21.360 -> 00:25.280] This is a big episode devoted to our boys Max and Alex.
[00:25.280 -> 00:29.840] We're getting them together for the very first time on the podcast, armed with questions for
[00:29.840 -> 00:34.240] each other. We know what these two are like on the racetrack, but what will we uncover when we
[00:34.240 -> 00:38.640] put them face to face in the studio? We're catching up with South African rugby captain
[00:38.640 -> 00:43.840] and Red Bull athlete Sier Khaleesi to chat F1, cars and the Rugby World Cup. We also have a
[00:43.840 -> 00:46.840] special treat. You'll get to hear the sound of Synergy
[00:46.840 -> 00:48.860] by London producer Mark Knight
[00:48.860 -> 00:51.160] and discover how he created a piece of music
[00:51.160 -> 00:53.340] using the sounds of our F1 car.
[00:53.340 -> 00:56.200] It's pretty spectacular and you'll hear it in full
[00:56.200 -> 00:58.200] at the end of this episode.
[00:58.200 -> 01:01.160] First, it's over to Max Verstappen and Alex Albon.
[01:01.160 -> 01:02.800] Take it away, boys.
[01:02.800 -> 01:03.960] Right, Max, here we go.
[01:04.820 -> 01:26.940] What are we doing? This is our first podcast together. This is a very romantic first one. Alex Albon, take it away boys! actually remember it. I remember the first time I tested with I was driving under a different name. Maybe Yeah, it would have been was that the conquer?
[01:26.960 -> 01:31.800] Yeah, I was driving under Yeah, yeah. It was you, Nick. And I Yeah, I was in
[01:31.800 -> 01:36.080] McBarrett racing. That was my scene. Yeah, I was like severely overweight.
[01:36.200 -> 01:41.940] What happened? I grew pretty much lost your baby fat and lost. Same as you
[01:41.940 -> 01:46.240] actually have you seen photos of us? I was was very chubby, it was all muscle though.
[01:46.240 -> 01:49.680] I remember you, to be honest you were already quite quick in that test.
[01:49.680 -> 01:51.360] I was like huh.
[01:51.360 -> 01:52.800] We don't like being slow Alex.
[01:52.800 -> 01:54.880] He was like 11 years old, I was like yikes.
[01:54.880 -> 01:56.400] Yeah I was actually.
[01:56.400 -> 01:57.680] Yeah you were the thing.
[01:57.680 -> 01:59.120] Yeah quite small.
[01:59.120 -> 02:02.160] Okay Alex, how many brothers and sisters do you have?
[02:02.160 -> 02:05.000] Well I have three sisters and a brother.
[02:05.000 -> 02:07.000] I have a big family.
[02:07.000 -> 02:09.000] We're all quite close, even in age.
[02:09.000 -> 02:10.000] I'm the oldest.
[02:10.000 -> 02:13.000] So what about you? You have one sister, right?
[02:13.000 -> 02:19.000] Well, I had one sister, but now I have two sisters and a little brother.
[02:19.000 -> 02:20.000] You know.
[02:20.000 -> 02:22.000] Yeah, I remember you.
[02:22.000 -> 02:26.200] But you guys are quite, age-wise wise, quite the older sister is only two
[02:26.200 -> 02:31.880] years apart. Yeah. And then the other one is 1617 years apart. And then the other one
[02:31.880 -> 02:39.960] is 21 and a half years apart. Yeah, so he's only five months now. My little brother. So
[02:39.960 -> 02:45.520] that's quite cool. Yeah. Well, let's's see if he's gonna be a racing driver himself.
[02:45.520 -> 02:46.360] Yeah.
[02:46.360 -> 02:48.040] But I told my dad, don't do it.
[02:48.040 -> 02:49.920] Just buy him football shoes.
[02:49.920 -> 02:51.840] Yeah, yeah, I'm the racer here, dad.
[02:51.840 -> 02:52.680] Yeah, just.
[02:52.680 -> 02:53.560] Let me do my thing.
[02:53.560 -> 02:55.320] Just let him do something else.
[02:56.400 -> 02:57.240] Yeah.
[02:57.240 -> 02:58.060] Let's see, anyway.
[02:58.060 -> 02:58.960] I got my next one.
[02:58.960 -> 03:00.360] Have you ever needed to pee
[03:00.360 -> 03:02.200] in your race suit during a race?
[03:02.200 -> 03:03.640] I mean, have you needed to pee in your race suit?
[03:03.640 -> 03:08.280] I had to, like, I had to go to the toilet, that's basically,
[03:08.280 -> 03:10.600] I guess, what they're after.
[03:10.600 -> 03:11.480] But, uh. Or during a race?
[03:11.480 -> 03:12.520] Yeah. Have you wet yourself
[03:12.520 -> 03:13.360] in a race? No, no, no,
[03:13.360 -> 03:16.640] I didn't, but I really had to go to the toilet.
[03:16.640 -> 03:18.520] But the problem was, it was an F3, actually,
[03:18.520 -> 03:20.600] in Norrisring. Yeah.
[03:20.600 -> 03:23.680] So, already before the race, I had to go to the toilet.
[03:23.680 -> 03:27.360] But, the thing was, I think at the time,
[03:27.360 -> 03:31.280] I was watching DTM in the hospitality,
[03:31.280 -> 03:33.480] so I was almost too late for the race.
[03:33.480 -> 03:38.000] So I had to run back, put my suit on, jump in the car.
[03:38.000 -> 03:39.600] But yeah, I had to go to the toilet,
[03:39.600 -> 03:41.080] but I couldn't of course.
[03:41.080 -> 03:46.000] Started the race, and then we had a red flag. So then we
[03:46.000 -> 03:48.880] stopped and I said can I go to the toilet? They're like no no no they're
[03:48.880 -> 03:52.960] gonna restart in like five minutes. So it's at the end like 15-20 minutes.
[03:52.960 -> 03:56.320] That's the worst right? Because when you're not driving that's when you think about it.
[03:56.320 -> 04:00.040] You know what I did? I just started the car a little bit earlier than normal.
[04:00.040 -> 04:04.400] So because of the vibrations of the car I didn't have to go to the toilet.
[04:04.400 -> 04:08.440] That's very odd. And then I was driving and it was actually
[04:08.440 -> 04:13.280] fine but then I was on the podium yeah and I really had to go to the toilet so
[04:13.280 -> 04:21.160] I tried to do it as quick as possible, well I didn't pee on the podium but of course afterwards I had to run to the toilet
[04:21.160 -> 04:27.380] People thought you were spraying champagne that's what you say If you say No, and you needed a wee in a wreck in a car
[04:28.800 -> 04:34.280] Vibration can happen though. I'm Alex who's the tallest of one driver on the grid and who is the shortest?
[04:34.480 -> 04:37.000] Well, I think I get the claim to fame
[04:40.440 -> 04:42.600] 86.5 so that's like
[04:48.960 -> 04:54.960] I'm 186.5 so that's like almost 0.5 like the 0.5 is basically to beat George because George would be 186. It's not great being a racing driver that that height everything touches
[04:55.760 -> 05:01.200] knees touch arms touch but I'm used to it now I've done this since yeah I mean you've been tall
[05:01.200 -> 05:07.000] for a long time now there we go so it's weird for me to have a lot of space in the car.
[05:07.000 -> 05:10.000] Like when my legs are too straight or my arms are too straight.
[05:10.000 -> 05:13.000] Yeah, you don't have that in the Red Bull do you?
[05:13.000 -> 05:15.000] I definitely don't.
[05:15.000 -> 05:16.000] Shortest?
[05:16.000 -> 05:21.000] Shortest would be, you know, I always in my head always thought that Lando was short.
[05:21.000 -> 05:22.000] But he's not actually that short anymore.
[05:22.000 -> 05:24.000] He's kind of had his little growth spurt in F1.
[05:24.000 -> 05:30.700] He's still not very big is he? He big. No, it was the shortest. It would have been Master for sure before
[05:30.700 -> 05:35.660] Yeah, it'd be like Bottas. No, I think Lando is short or even Lewis might be the shortest. No
[05:35.660 -> 05:42.360] No, I think Lando is short. Okay. Are you better at singing or dancing? Actually, this is relevant singing because obviously
[05:43.500 -> 05:46.720] Karaoke. Yeah, when's the last time you did karaoke?
[05:47.680 -> 05:53.520] A very long time. I have to go again. I have to go again. I'm going to do it here in Tokyo.
[05:53.520 -> 05:58.000] Oh really? Yeah. Let's see. Yeah. Maybe I can have a career. I have heard you're a good singer.
[05:58.000 -> 06:13.840] Actually the last time we did sing was... Oh. It was not prepared. Yeah. It was Christian's. but I was not prepared
[06:20.160 -> 06:20.440] No, you know you have to warm up your voice and your mind confidence you need confidence as well so no dancing
[06:26.480 -> 06:31.040] No, not a dancer. No, no, no, okay, so flexible in the hips. Yeah, actually I remember you telling me in Singapore. Yeah, you didn't show me though. That would be weird. That would be very weird. Yeah, let's not do that.
[06:31.120 -> 06:36.780] Alex, what sports did you play growing up? I played quite a lot of sports actually. Yeah, football, rugby.
[06:37.200 -> 06:44.200] You played rugby? You know, I was actually quite good at rugby. Yeah. I broke so many bones though. So I broke
[06:45.460 -> 06:49.720] quite good at rugby. I broke so many bones though. So I broke these four fingers. So someone, I used to play for my school which they were nationally
[06:49.720 -> 06:55.300] they were quite good at rugby and I was a forward which is like one
[06:55.300 -> 06:58.880] of the dangerous places or the ones where you make all the tackles right and
[06:58.880 -> 07:03.240] someone did like a tackle to me and all these four fingers kind of went to the
[07:03.240 -> 07:09.080] right and I was like this was this was when I was racing you this is when I was in in 2010
[07:09.080 -> 07:14.280] do you remember one race I had like an arm thing yeah was that wait I said in
[07:14.280 -> 07:18.520] the beginning of the or the end I did I did it twice oh I had to cast with you
[07:18.520 -> 07:24.680] so yeah the nurse the nurse gave me like the helium yeah sorry oxygen I think it
[07:24.680 -> 07:25.760] is and then like they
[07:25.760 -> 07:30.520] pull your fingers back it was disgusting it was so painful because after the first
[07:30.520 -> 07:35.040] one they say it doesn't hurt so they obviously do the first one but then you
[07:35.040 -> 07:38.120] realize it does hurt and then you got three more fingers to go it wasn't that
[07:38.120 -> 07:41.280] right so I stopped I obviously stopped doing that kind of stuff because yeah I
[07:41.280 -> 07:48.880] understand it's not very clever okay your rap name is the last thing you ate with Lil in front of it the last thing I ate was
[07:48.880 -> 07:56.580] chicken nugget little chicken nuggets little nugget little nugget can that be
[07:56.580 -> 08:00.020] a little omelet oh no no that's not the last thing I had I had an omelet and
[08:00.020 -> 08:05.120] soup that doesn't sound a little tomato soup little super little omelet that doesn't have to say little little Little tomato soup. Little super. Little omelette.
[08:05.120 -> 08:10.080] That doesn't have to say. Little mcnugget. Okay we go for that one. What would I be called?
[08:10.080 -> 08:17.760] I'd poach steaks. Little poacher. Little poach. That's not good. Little poach. Little egg.
[08:17.760 -> 08:23.520] Little egg. Little eggs. What is the most embarrassing thing that's ever happened to you?
[08:23.540 -> 08:24.800] What is the most embarrassing thing that's ever happened to you?
[08:29.440 -> 08:30.080] We all had this question be open and honest and I was saying that I don't
[08:36.960 -> 08:37.080] You pee yourself in front of the class. I I I get embarrassed on a daily basis. I do embarrassing things all the time
[08:41.720 -> 08:50.080] Okay, so I don't get that embarrassed anymore. I feel like you right Do you know what you make in the the day when you were still... I remember in middle secondary school middle school wherever you're from
[08:50.080 -> 08:56.720] I my friend was like throwing me like a rugby ball or something and I had my
[08:56.720 -> 09:06.360] backpack on and so it was kind of like pretending to be in the NBA, no NFL, so he throws the rugby ball and I'm like trying to run
[09:06.360 -> 09:11.800] and run at it and looking at the ball obviously not seeing where I'm going
[09:11.800 -> 09:19.080] and landed, kind of hit the bin, the bin was kind of like against the wall
[09:19.080 -> 09:29.440] okay so I ended up somehow putting my ass into the bin and literally like my arms and my legs were sticking out of the bin.
[09:29.440 -> 09:32.080] And I was like kind of completely in it.
[09:32.080 -> 09:34.480] But that's like, that's quite a strong memory.
[09:34.480 -> 09:37.760] What is the craziest gift you've ever received from a fan?
[09:37.760 -> 09:38.720] Craziest gift?
[09:38.720 -> 09:42.240] You get a lot of gifts, some cool stuff as well. I see some cool artwork.
[09:42.240 -> 09:52.000] Well, the funny thing is always here in Japan, I get teaspoons and I don't even like it.
[09:52.000 -> 09:55.920] So are you telling all the Japanese fans? It's still giving you bad gifts?
[09:55.920 -> 09:59.200] Is that what you're trying to say? I'm not saying it's bad gifts I'm just
[09:59.200 -> 10:02.240] saying. You're just saying you have a lot of teaspoons at home. Honestly yeah.
[10:02.240 -> 10:06.200] That are getting used. I do. Well they are getting used but not by me.
[10:06.200 -> 10:07.500] Not by you, sure.
[10:07.500 -> 10:12.600] We've seen some of your drawing skills. Did you study art in school?
[10:12.600 -> 10:16.900] Well, it was mandatory. You know, it's like one of them subjects that you have to do.
[10:16.900 -> 10:18.900] Okay. Yeah, I guess so.
[10:18.900 -> 10:23.400] And I did it. Well, yeah, if it's mandatory, yeah, then you can study.
[10:23.400 -> 10:26.320] Next question. That was easy. Very easy.
[10:26.320 -> 10:29.280] What is the first thing you do after a race? Take my helmet off.
[10:30.880 -> 10:36.640] I uh stop. No that's actually not true I take my gloves off first. Yeah of course. No that is not
[10:36.640 -> 10:46.040] true. You take your head rest off. No you take your engine off. All right Max, P1 10 seconds P0.
[10:46.080 -> 10:48.320] Technically speaking, we're off the race.
[10:48.360 -> 10:49.880] Yeah, that's after the race turning your engine off.
[10:49.880 -> 10:51.440] The race is when you cross the checkered flag.
[10:51.520 -> 10:54.840] Well, then I go off throttle after the sprint.
[10:56.720 -> 11:00.280] The most in-depth answer to such a simple question.
[11:01.560 -> 11:03.400] I think it's a very strong performance here.
[11:04.240 -> 11:07.980] Yeah, I think we should start our own radio show in the morning
[11:07.980 -> 11:12.160] Oh, it'll be cool. Well, no, actually not. I'm not a morning person. So we should do it in the evening
[11:12.960 -> 11:18.320] All right. That was it. That was our first sophisticated podcast. I hope you liked it
[11:18.320 -> 11:20.320] Make sure to LIKE and subscribe
[11:21.600 -> 11:25.340] There you go. Okay, you did well. Really good job. Thank you.
[11:25.340 -> 11:26.160] Nice one, nice one.
[11:26.160 -> 11:27.000] Really good boys.
[11:27.000 -> 11:28.720] Yeah, I hope you're not trying to take my job.
[11:28.720 -> 11:31.320] More from Alex and Max in the coming podcast.
[11:31.320 -> 11:34.520] Right now, we must turn our attention to Japan
[11:34.520 -> 11:36.000] and it's been a very eventful race.
[11:36.000 -> 11:39.080] Alex scored the best result of his young F1 career
[11:39.080 -> 11:40.840] with a brilliant drive to fourth place
[11:40.840 -> 11:42.280] at the Japanese Grand Prix.
[11:42.280 -> 11:44.320] But there was disappointment for Max at Suzuka.
[11:44.320 -> 11:46.800] He was forced to retire from the race after 14 laps
[11:46.800 -> 11:48.200] following a first corner collision
[11:48.200 -> 11:49.960] with Ferrari's Chancellor, Claire.
[11:49.960 -> 11:51.320] There was a brilliant atmosphere
[11:51.320 -> 11:53.320] in the paddock across the weekend.
[11:53.320 -> 11:55.720] South African rugby captain and Red Bull athlete,
[11:55.720 -> 11:57.600] Sia Khaleesi came to hang out.
[11:57.600 -> 12:00.880] Steve Nash spoke to him about his F1 experience.
[12:00.880 -> 12:04.280] So Khaleesi, welcome to the Talking Pool podcast
[12:04.280 -> 12:05.880] here in Japan.
[12:05.880 -> 12:06.880] How has your day gone so far?
[12:06.880 -> 12:10.600] I know you arrived not that long ago, but how has your experience been so far?
[12:10.600 -> 12:11.600] It's been amazing.
[12:11.600 -> 12:16.240] I never dreamt of, obviously, experiencing something like this.
[12:16.240 -> 12:20.320] And yeah, going to the pit and stuff was really out of this world, you know.
[12:20.320 -> 12:23.200] And the guys explaining what they do and stuff, it's really been amazing.
[12:23.200 -> 12:26.160] And obviously, we've been watching the Formula One episodes
[12:26.160 -> 12:29.560] on Netflix and it's ridiculous to actually see the people
[12:29.560 -> 12:32.040] that are part of the Red Bull team here.
[12:32.040 -> 12:33.120] It's been really amazing.
[12:33.120 -> 12:34.920] And what are you most looking forward to seeing
[12:34.920 -> 12:36.440] for the rest of the day?
[12:36.440 -> 12:38.040] I just want to meet Max.
[12:38.040 -> 12:39.680] Yeah, I just really want to meet Max
[12:39.680 -> 12:41.680] and obviously Mr. Christian Horn
[12:41.680 -> 12:48.220] because I saw him quite a lot in the episodes and I really respect
[12:48.220 -> 12:52.580] what he does. The whole Red Bull team, I really just want to see them.
[12:52.580 -> 12:54.860] So you enjoyed the Netflix episode?
[12:54.860 -> 13:00.420] Yeah, I loved it. We were watching now some more with the bus with some of my boys. We
[13:00.420 -> 13:04.340] just got stuck into it, especially knowing that we're coming here. We just wanted to
[13:04.340 -> 13:07.480] see how everything works because we only see the cars and we think
[13:07.480 -> 13:09.800] that's all that's happening when the guys are racing.
[13:09.800 -> 13:13.680] Then to see everything that goes behind the scenes is really amazing, the competitive
[13:13.680 -> 13:14.680] nature of the sport.
[13:14.680 -> 13:19.040] That's really cool, because I think that's the whole thing with the series, they try
[13:19.040 -> 13:20.040] and show you behind the scenes.
[13:20.040 -> 13:24.000] It would be really interesting to know from you how you've compared that when you actually
[13:24.000 -> 13:25.080] see it in person
[13:25.080 -> 13:27.600] and see how in unison they work.
[13:27.600 -> 13:30.360] And I guess being part of that team
[13:30.360 -> 13:32.080] would be interesting for you to relate it
[13:32.080 -> 13:33.280] to being part of a rugby team.
[13:33.280 -> 13:35.840] And do you find you can take things from other sports
[13:35.840 -> 13:36.680] as being part of a team?
[13:36.680 -> 13:41.040] I think you always think the most important people
[13:41.040 -> 13:43.320] are the ones that like for racing,
[13:43.320 -> 13:48.220] you think the drivers are, but you don't understand how important the guys are changing the world you know
[13:48.220 -> 13:52.480] it can it can can be loose or you can stuff it up there the driver could be
[13:52.480 -> 13:56.480] doing well but the work behind the scene is normally like the big one you know
[13:56.480 -> 14:01.080] and and that's something with rugby as well especially we have a team and some
[14:01.080 -> 14:03.840] guys don't play and then they have to study the other team and see what they
[14:03.840 -> 14:10.640] do and then the pictures of the give us is what we normally helps us so in that regard and obviously
[14:10.640 -> 14:15.840] I've been on the mic like for the team and hear how the coaches speak and then you see here
[14:15.840 -> 14:22.320] how the messages are passed through only one guy speaking to the driver it's really amazing to see
[14:22.320 -> 14:27.040] Can you relate that to rugby? Obviously being being the captain, you're the focal point
[14:27.040 -> 14:28.880] on the pitch if the ref speaks to somebody,
[14:28.880 -> 14:29.720] he speaks to you.
[14:29.720 -> 14:30.560] Yeah, 100%.
[14:30.560 -> 14:31.380] Is it very similar to that?
[14:31.380 -> 14:32.220] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[14:32.220 -> 14:33.240] Because you can see, as you have one guy
[14:33.240 -> 14:36.640] speaking to the driver, but the other guys around
[14:36.640 -> 14:38.720] also pass messages to him to pass to the driver.
[14:38.720 -> 14:39.920] That's what happens with me.
[14:39.920 -> 14:41.320] I can't see everything on the field,
[14:41.320 -> 14:45.080] so I use my teammates around me to also pass me messages
[14:45.080 -> 14:48.080] so I can talk to the ref about stuff that I don't see.
[14:48.080 -> 14:51.800] And obviously being part of the team is important and you're here with some of them today.
[14:51.800 -> 14:54.360] How has your experience in Japan been as a team?
[14:54.360 -> 14:55.360] It's been amazing.
[14:55.360 -> 14:57.080] You know, the people of Japan are really amazing.
[14:57.080 -> 15:01.320] They've embraced us being here and we've enjoyed every moment, you know, and every city we
[15:01.320 -> 15:03.280] go to really get embraced.
[15:03.280 -> 15:05.920] And you can see outside here how many people are out here,
[15:05.920 -> 15:07.760] coming out there supporting the sport.
[15:07.760 -> 15:09.040] And yeah, I'm really happy.
[15:09.040 -> 15:12.720] And I know Team Red Bull has just recently joined
[15:12.720 -> 15:14.440] with Honda, which is amazing.
[15:14.440 -> 15:16.040] And it's their first time here,
[15:16.040 -> 15:17.280] so it's quite an important race,
[15:17.280 -> 15:19.840] so I'm excited to see how it plays out.
[15:19.840 -> 15:21.600] Yeah, and you touched upon the fans.
[15:21.600 -> 15:26.120] We think that possibly the Japanese fans are the most
[15:26.120 -> 15:31.000] unique and most fanatical in the world where we go. Have you had that experience as well?
[15:31.000 -> 15:35.760] Yeah 100% I mean we've seen our team flags everywhere around here in every city we go
[15:35.760 -> 15:40.400] to you know they're embracing us and they come and support us and at one of our training
[15:40.400 -> 15:48.280] sessions we had over 3,000 people watching and it looked like a rugby game you know yeah it was really amazing. What's the most unique thing
[15:48.280 -> 15:54.400] you've done so far since being in Japan? In Kahushima we went to the mountain and
[15:54.400 -> 15:58.560] it was an earthquake and it erupted while we were there but a small one it's
[15:58.560 -> 16:04.000] I mean it's not something you see every day yeah yeah. Obviously talking a little
[16:04.000 -> 16:05.000] bit about rugby,
[16:05.000 -> 16:09.000] you've been the captain of South Africa for now for just over a year.
[16:09.000 -> 16:15.000] And when you became captain, you were the first black captain in 126 years of history.
[16:15.000 -> 16:18.000] How did that feel for you? Was that immense pride?
[16:18.000 -> 16:22.000] Yeah, just being captain of the team is huge for me.
[16:22.000 -> 16:27.280] And I understand what it means to me and my family and the rest of
[16:27.280 -> 16:32.240] South Africa. To be honest, I've got so many leaders around me in the team that I use a
[16:32.240 -> 16:38.440] lot of that. I don't have no ego. If someone is much better than me at something else,
[16:38.440 -> 16:43.440] I'll go to them for advice. When times are tough, I do get advice from my teammates.
[16:43.440 -> 16:48.140] It's been really huge, something I never dreamt of you know when I was a kid. Do you find
[16:48.140 -> 16:52.380] you've become a bit of an idol and maybe inspiration for the younger children?
[16:52.380 -> 16:57.700] Yeah I think so you know I always say I want to inspire people by the way I play
[16:57.700 -> 17:02.060] and the way I carry myself and I'm hoping anyone who comes from a similar
[17:02.060 -> 17:06.640] background you know to also know that it is possible to make it.
[17:06.640 -> 17:11.440] That's one of the reasons why I can't stop working hard until the day I stop playing rugby.
[17:11.440 -> 17:15.360] You're also captain for your club team, the Stormers, in Super Rugby.
[17:15.360 -> 17:18.000] How did your last season go? How would you rate it?
[17:18.000 -> 17:22.320] It wasn't great. We haven't had a good season in the past couple of years.
[17:22.320 -> 17:26.200] We're obviously going to work hard to try and turn the tide
[17:26.200 -> 17:30.920] next year. A lot of those guys are staying, I think only two senior players will be leaving
[17:30.920 -> 17:36.960] the team so we've got a huge pack of leadership guys that are going to be staying behind.
[17:36.960 -> 17:41.880] And obviously in super rugby you come up against fellow Red Bull rugby athlete Bodum Barrett.
[17:41.880 -> 17:50.240] Do you know Bodum very well at all? Yeah, we chat every now and then. He's a good, amazing rugby player. He's proved it for the
[17:50.240 -> 17:56.920] past couple of years being RRB Player of the Year. I see now he's moving teams to the Blues.
[17:56.920 -> 17:59.880] It's always good to play against him. He's one of the best rugby players in the world.
[17:59.880 -> 18:03.960] Do you find because you're both Red Bull athletes you get a bit of a connection? So maybe when
[18:03.960 -> 18:06.480] you go and play a game you might connect a bit easier?
[18:06.480 -> 18:10.800] Yeah, that's the kind of stuff that we talk about afterwards.
[18:10.800 -> 18:14.040] You want to check out what he's been doing with Red Bull and stuff.
[18:14.040 -> 18:19.240] And yeah, I'm excited also when I get back home to start working with Red Bull.
[18:19.240 -> 18:22.720] We want to change lives, that's why we put it up together.
[18:22.720 -> 18:29.280] There's so many opportunities in South Africa to make a difference and that's the reason why I wanted to join Red Bull and and I know we're
[18:29.280 -> 18:33.920] going to do so much good for the people in South Africa. It's not about me you know I'm playing in
[18:33.920 -> 18:40.240] and doing all my dreams but I want to be able to open doors for for other young kids and and that's
[18:40.240 -> 18:45.000] why Red Bull actually saw the opportunity and they saw my passion and I see their passion as well.
[18:45.000 -> 18:47.800] So I'm really excited for the work that we can do.
[18:47.800 -> 18:49.360] That's really, really good to hear.
[18:49.360 -> 18:52.520] And obviously, since becoming a Red Bull athlete,
[18:52.520 -> 18:54.880] you got to experience some pretty incredible events,
[18:54.880 -> 18:58.440] I imagine, one being the Red Bull Cape Town Circuit.
[18:58.440 -> 18:59.960] I mean, how much did you enjoy that day?
[18:59.960 -> 19:01.880] Because for us, it was probably one of the highlights
[19:01.880 -> 19:03.400] of the season already.
[19:03.400 -> 19:07.800] Yeah, for me, I think meeting David Cooper and seeing the actual car,
[19:07.800 -> 19:12.600] even though the car came to our field, we took some pictures with it, it was amazing.
[19:12.600 -> 19:18.600] Until I heard it revving and then doing donuts, it was out of this world.
[19:18.600 -> 19:23.000] And then meeting him and explaining the car to me, it was really amazing.
[19:23.000 -> 19:24.800] He's telling me he's one of the big drivers,
[19:24.800 -> 19:25.000] so how they have to adjust the whole car to me, and it was really amazing. He was telling me he's one of the big drivers,
[19:25.000 -> 19:28.000] so how they have to adjust the whole car to fit him.
[19:28.000 -> 19:31.000] The stuff that you do, you know you can't use a bathroom.
[19:31.000 -> 19:35.000] You have to go out. I wouldn't be able to go for 120 minutes.
[19:35.000 -> 19:40.000] Red Bull is opening doors that I will never be able to do it myself.
[19:40.000 -> 19:44.000] So I'm really excited for everything that I've been able to do.
[19:44.000 -> 19:45.920] Today is so special. I'm really not for everything that I've been able to do. And like today is so special.
[19:45.920 -> 19:47.560] I'm really not scared of the field,
[19:47.560 -> 19:49.680] but there's no ways I would get it behind a wall
[19:49.680 -> 19:50.520] and drive that fast.
[19:50.520 -> 19:52.720] So we really expect them for what they do.
[19:52.720 -> 19:56.080] So even if we could adapt our show car to fit you in it,
[19:56.080 -> 19:57.200] you wouldn't go behind it?
[19:57.200 -> 19:58.840] No, no, no, no, no ways.
[19:58.840 -> 20:01.160] We were sitting there listening to the driver speak
[20:01.160 -> 20:04.080] while we were watching the episodes, you know.
[20:04.080 -> 20:10.880] I think if you, the car is made to go fast and I think I'll be too scared, I think I'll
[20:10.880 -> 20:13.960] damage the car because I've been driving it so slow, that's what we're sitting there thinking
[20:13.960 -> 20:18.600] because we think we're going fast on the road but I'll never get in the car.
[20:18.600 -> 20:22.640] But I'll obviously trust Max to take me for a spin in a normal car.
[20:22.640 -> 20:24.640] And are you a fan of cars yourself?
[20:24.640 -> 20:26.840] Yeah, yeah it's crazy.
[20:27.920 -> 20:31.480] I was talking to Travis outside
[20:31.480 -> 20:36.040] and I told him one of my favourite cars is Esme Martin.
[20:36.040 -> 20:38.600] So it's a coincidence, you know,
[20:38.600 -> 20:39.920] those things work out,
[20:39.920 -> 20:41.480] and I told him my two favourite cars.
[20:41.480 -> 20:43.880] Don't think I'm gonna say the other one
[20:43.880 -> 20:45.880] out here in the show now.
[20:45.880 -> 20:49.280] And where would you rank yourself amongst your team mates
[20:49.280 -> 20:51.920] if you were both to all get behind the car and have a race?
[20:51.920 -> 20:53.840] Would you rate yourself quite highly to win?
[20:53.840 -> 20:55.240] On a straight line, yes.
[20:55.240 -> 20:57.480] But not in a winner, I have to turn corners now.
[20:57.480 -> 20:59.960] Will we see, do you think, any races in the future?
[20:59.960 -> 21:02.240] Yeah, 100%, I would really love to.
[21:02.240 -> 21:03.800] It's tough with our schedule, you know,
[21:03.800 -> 21:05.520] we're playing throughout the
[21:05.520 -> 21:11.760] year and I think the closest one we'll get will probably be America. I think it's probably after
[21:11.760 -> 21:18.240] our season. So yeah, hopefully one day but I really want to go to Austria and see the Red Bull
[21:18.240 -> 21:23.600] head office because I had a lot of FOMO when I saw the pictures when Team Red Bull won in Austria
[21:23.600 -> 21:25.520] this year. It was really amazing.
[21:25.520 -> 21:27.600] And so I would really love to experience that.
[21:27.600 -> 21:30.600] You know, I want to get to know Team Red Bull a lot more,
[21:30.600 -> 21:33.080] you know, not just from a working relationship,
[21:33.080 -> 21:34.880] to see where it all began, you know,
[21:34.880 -> 21:36.840] and all the people behind the scene.
[21:36.840 -> 21:37.680] That's great.
[21:37.680 -> 21:40.800] And, you know, it's an absolute pleasure having you here
[21:40.800 -> 21:42.160] and spending the day with us today.
[21:42.160 -> 21:47.680] And we hope you enjoy the race and it's a good result so we can celebrate maybe with you and your teammates later but
[21:47.680 -> 21:52.000] all the best in Japan and thanks very much for coming on the show.
[21:52.000 -> 21:56.360] Thank you so much we appreciate it and we're thankful for everybody that made
[21:56.360 -> 22:02.280] this possible. For me and my teammates thank you for this we will never forget this opportunity.
[22:02.280 -> 22:05.000] So good to hear from SIAP You're always welcome back of course.
[22:05.000 -> 22:09.000] Right now for a special treat to end this episode of Talking Bull,
[22:09.000 -> 22:15.000] we've been working with Esso and legendary London producer Mark Knight to produce the Sound of Synergy.
[22:15.000 -> 22:19.000] We challenge him to create a piece of music using the sounds of our F1 car.
[22:19.000 -> 22:21.000] Here he is to tell you more.
[22:21.000 -> 22:28.000] So I was tasked by Esso to create a piece of music using the sounds recorded from an
[22:28.000 -> 22:32.800] RB15 engine. So I went to the Rebel Racing factory in Milton Keynes and the engineer
[22:32.800 -> 22:37.720] kindly showed me around. I drew a whole bunch of inspiration from that which I then bring
[22:37.720 -> 22:41.760] back here to the studio in Shoreditch and re-imagine as a piece of music.
[22:41.760 -> 22:47.200] You get a wide variety of noises from a Formula One car. On the start line, the engine will be revving high.
[22:47.200 -> 22:49.160] Into a corner, you'll hear a rasping noise.
[22:49.160 -> 22:52.760] I'm kind of excited to see what Mark can create from all the different noises a Formula One
[22:52.760 -> 22:53.760] car makes.
[22:53.760 -> 22:58.200] So we're very excited to come back and get the sounds, and there was a full dynamic spectrum
[22:58.200 -> 23:03.360] of sounds that we had that ranged from low-end sounds, which we could use for the bass, more
[23:03.360 -> 23:05.520] midi toppy sounds we could use for a lead,
[23:05.520 -> 23:07.520] sounds we could use for effects.
[23:09.200 -> 23:16.400] So the foundation of the track is the bassline and to create the bassline what we did was take the end part of this engine sound here,
[23:16.400 -> 23:21.200] put it in the sampler, re-pitch it and replay it to create this.
[23:27.000 -> 23:29.440] to create this.
[23:34.080 -> 23:38.560] Not a bad bassline with an engine sound. So to create the lead sound in the record we did exactly the same process. We went to the stem of engine sounds,
[23:38.560 -> 23:42.000] found a nice tone, re-pitched it
[23:42.000 -> 23:51.000] and then replayed it as a lead. That's the engine sound and it ends up as the lead.
[23:51.000 -> 23:56.600] So I'm super happy with the way the track's turned out.
[23:56.600 -> 24:03.000] I really feel the energy of the record replicates the power and the energy of the engine and
[24:03.000 -> 24:04.880] that's exactly what we set out to do.
[24:04.880 -> 24:07.800] It's what you set out to do and you blew us away with it, Mark.
[24:07.800 -> 24:10.800] This is the sound of synergy in all of its glory.
[24:10.800 -> 24:11.800] Hope you enjoy.
[24:11.800 -> 24:14.800] We'll be back with another episode of Talking Ball very soon.
[24:14.800 -> 24:30.000] Until then, take care. 10. BOOTING
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