The Live Demo Team

On this edition of Talking Bull - the Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Podcast we take you behind the scenes with our fantastic live demo team. They show off the car on racing circuits, on city streets, at festivals and exhibitions all over the World, Often playing to crowds measured in hundreds of thousands. We hear from David Coulthard, Tony Burrows, Mark Willis and Mark Lenton, plus we have an exclusive track from Flawes.

## Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Podcast: Live Demo Team Special

**Overview:**
This episode of the Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Podcast focuses on the team's live demo team, which showcases the Formula 1 car at various events around the world. Former Red Bull driver David Coulthard and current drivers Tom Coulthard and Max Verstappen share their experiences and insights on participating in these live demonstrations.

**Key Points:**

* **Live Demo Team:**
* The live demo team showcases the Formula 1 car at various events, including city streets, festivals, and exhibitions.
* The team's primary objective is to provide fans with an up-close and personal experience of the car's capabilities.
* The team uses two RB7s and an RB8, which are older Formula 1 cars with V8 engines, for these demonstrations.

* **Driver Experiences:**
* Tom Coulthard, who has participated in numerous live demonstrations, highlights the unique opportunity to drive a Formula 1 car in front of large crowds.
* He emphasizes the importance of maintaining control and safety during these events, especially in tight spaces.
* Coulthard mentions some extreme locations where he has driven the Formula 1 car, including Bogota, Colombia, and Argentina.

* **Challenges and Safety:**
* Coulthard recalls a close call during a demonstration in Barcelona, where he had to navigate a tight turning circle.
* He stresses the importance of safety measures, such as fire extinguishers and sacrificial bodywork areas, to prevent accidents.
* The team faces logistical challenges, including transporting the cars through customs and dealing with extreme weather conditions.

* **Global Impact:**
* Formula 1 is a global sport, and the live demo team has visited numerous countries to showcase the car.
* Coulthard notes that the team's presence in a country can sometimes lead to the hosting of Grand Prix events in the future.
* He mentions examples like Austin, Baku, and potentially South Africa, where live demonstrations preceded the hosting of Grand Prix races.

* **Thrill of Driving:**
* Coulthard expresses his continued excitement for participating in live demonstrations, despite being retired from racing.
* He acknowledges that there will come a time when he will no longer be physically suited for the role.

* **Show Run Team's Perspective:**
* Tony Burrows and Mark Willis, members of the show run team, discuss their roles and responsibilities.
* They emphasize the importance of the team's functional role in supporting race events and testing the current Formula 1 car.
* Burrows recalls the first live demonstration in a tunnel in Switzerland, highlighting the team's growth and ambition over the years.

* **Extreme Demonstrations:**
* Burrows and Willis share their experiences with extreme live demonstrations, including driving on snow, ice, sand, and even a helipad.
* They describe the challenges of modifying the cars to withstand these conditions, such as adding snow chains and fans for cooling.
* They mention memorable events like driving up the Himalayas and through deserts.

* **Safety Measures:**
* Burrows and Willis emphasize the importance of safety during live demonstrations, both for the driver and the spectators.
* They discuss measures such as welding down manhole covers, installing barriers, and ensuring clear and stable roads.
* They highlight the need to be prepared for unpredictable weather conditions and crowd control.

* **Favorite Destinations:**
* Burrows and Willis share their favorite destinations for live demonstrations, including Zandvoort in Holland, the Khaldungla pass in the Himalayas, and the Burj Al Arab helipad.
* They also express their desire to explore more of Africa and Antarctica for future demonstrations.

**Conclusion:**
The Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Podcast episode provides an insightful look into the world of Formula 1 live demonstrations, highlighting the experiences of drivers and the challenges faced by the show run team. It emphasizes the importance of safety, the global impact of Formula 1, and the thrill of driving these powerful machines in front of enthusiastic crowds. # Talking Bull: The Logistics of the Red Bull Racing Live Demo Team's Global Tours

**Introduction:**

In this episode of the Talking Bull podcast, the hosts Nicola Hume and Mark Lenton delve into the intricate logistics and challenges involved in transporting the Red Bull Racing Live Demo Team's RB7 cars to remote locations around the world for their spectacular show runs.

**Challenges of Global Tours:**

1. **Packing and Unpacking:**
- The team packs the RB7 cars into three special-sized boxes to ensure they fit in any aircraft.
- Unpacking and assembling the cars takes approximately nine hours.

2. **Precision Driving:**
- Tight clearances require expert forklift driving to maneuver the cars in and out of the boxes.

3. **Spare Car:**
- The team always carries a spare car to avoid delays in case of any mechanical issues.

**Exclusive Music from Flaws:**

The podcast concludes with an exclusive track, "When We Were Young," by the band Flaws, which is a popular favorite in the Red Bull Racing garage.

**Key Takeaways:**

- The Red Bull Racing Live Demo Team has taken their show runs to every inhabited continent, conquering diverse terrains and climates.
- The team faces unique challenges in transporting the RB7 cars to remote locations, requiring meticulous planning and precision.
- The podcast provides an exclusive glimpse into the behind-the-scenes operations of the Live Demo Team, highlighting the dedication and expertise of the team members.

[00:00.000 -> 00:03.000] Hi there, this is Christian Horner.
[00:03.000 -> 00:06.000] You've won the Austrian Grand Prix!
[00:06.000 -> 00:08.000] Hi guys, it's Pierre.
[00:08.000 -> 00:12.000] Hi, I'm Max Verstappen and you're listening to the Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Podcast.
[00:12.000 -> 00:15.000] Oh, this feels good!
[00:17.000 -> 00:22.000] Hello, this is Talking Bull, the official Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Podcast.
[00:22.000 -> 00:30.160] Throughout this series, we're going to be taking you behind the scenes of the track, in the paddock and at the factory and giving you full access to the team.
[00:30.160 -> 00:35.280] On this edition of the podcast we'd like to focus our attention on our fantastic live demo team.
[00:35.280 -> 00:40.480] They show off the car on racing circuits, on city streets and at festivals and exhibitions,
[00:40.480 -> 00:51.000] often playing to crowds measured in hundreds of thousands, they give fans the chance to witness the contained ferocity of a Formula 1 car at very close quarters.
[00:51.000 -> 00:57.000] F1 is a great sport for TV, but there's no substitute for the ear-splitting roar of the engine,
[00:57.000 -> 01:00.000] the haze of tyre smoke and the aroma of burning rubber.
[01:00.000 -> 01:05.000] Our racing drivers and the Red Bull Junior team take turns to pilot the live demo car,
[01:05.000 -> 01:09.000] but from time to time we've been lucky enough to have special guests behind the wheel.
[01:09.000 -> 01:16.000] World champions Alan Prost and Damon Hill have both demonstrated the noble art of the doughnuts and the burnout,
[01:16.000 -> 01:19.000] and we've also let loose Hollywood superstar Tom Cruise.
[01:19.000 -> 01:24.000] Coming up we'll be speaking with Tony Burrows and Mark Willis who run point on our show runs.
[01:24.000 -> 01:28.980] We're going to hear from our number one mechanic, Mark Lenton, plus we'll have an exclusive track
[01:28.980 -> 01:31.300] from floors to finish.
[01:31.300 -> 01:35.080] First though, it only feels right we speak to the driver that's appeared on more show
[01:35.080 -> 01:39.100] runs than any other, Tom Coulthard with David Coulthard.
[01:39.100 -> 01:43.240] Can you remember the first ever live demonstration you did with the Red Bull show run team?
[01:43.240 -> 01:51.000] Oh, actually, I knew you were going to ask me about the running show cars, but I don't actually remember the very first showrun.
[01:51.000 -> 02:02.000] It was probably at Hangar 7 in Austria, which is the... anyone who is in Salzburg or knows well the Red Bull journey,
[02:02.000 -> 02:08.080] they'll know that Dieter Mateschitz has his private collection of aircraft housed there and other memorabilia.
[02:08.080 -> 02:14.200] And we did a little demonstration on the apron for some filming early doors.
[02:14.200 -> 02:22.520] But over the years, we've been to South Africa, South America, the Americas, all across Europe,
[02:22.520 -> 02:26.640] you know, been to some amazing places to be able to demonstrate and show
[02:26.640 -> 02:27.840] just the power of Formula One.
[02:27.840 -> 02:30.840] You know, you still keep quite a crazy schedule now,
[02:30.840 -> 02:33.000] even though you're not racing anymore.
[02:33.000 -> 02:35.480] And although you're not in a car to race anymore,
[02:35.480 -> 02:37.480] you do still find yourself in a Formula One car
[02:37.480 -> 02:38.840] quite often, don't you?
[02:38.840 -> 02:41.640] Yeah, it's great to still be part of the Red Bull racing
[02:41.640 -> 02:44.040] family, it's something I'm very proud of,
[02:44.040 -> 02:51.480] and I think reflects well on the Red Bull ethos of if you've played a role and contributed, then
[02:51.480 -> 02:52.720] you're part of the family.
[02:52.720 -> 02:57.400] I think that I only raced for the team for four years, but I think that the role I was
[02:57.400 -> 03:03.440] able to play as a driver and in collaboration with Christian and helping sow the seeds of
[03:03.440 -> 03:05.000] the early structure of the team
[03:05.000 -> 03:08.000] is reflected in the fact that I still have that relationship.
[03:08.000 -> 03:12.000] Although I'm 10 years retired and 10 kilos heavier,
[03:12.000 -> 03:18.000] they thankfully have released the suit's tightness a little bit
[03:18.000 -> 03:21.000] and enables me to jump back in the car at various events around the globe.
[03:21.000 -> 03:28.880] For me it's a real pleasure because not only does it remind me of the complexities of a Grand Prix car and the challenge of driving
[03:28.880 -> 03:32.200] them even if it's only in a demonstration and I think that helps my
[03:32.200 -> 03:39.320] broadcasting. I also am lucky enough to go to some amazing venues sometimes
[03:39.320 -> 03:42.040] several years before a Grand Prix is ever there. You've touched on it there
[03:42.040 -> 03:45.620] just how truly global our show car program is.
[03:45.620 -> 03:48.200] Can you think of where possibly the most extreme
[03:48.200 -> 03:50.480] or weirdest place you've ever found yourself
[03:50.480 -> 03:51.960] driving a Formula 1 car?
[03:51.960 -> 03:53.760] Well, it's been a real journey of discovery.
[03:53.760 -> 03:57.720] I went to Bogota in Colombia with the running show car event
[03:57.720 -> 04:01.760] and I would never typically have found myself heading there.
[04:01.760 -> 04:04.640] So I discovered that it's altitude,
[04:04.640 -> 04:06.160] which threw up its own challenges
[04:06.160 -> 04:07.600] because we were struggling.
[04:07.600 -> 04:09.320] At the altitude, you have less power,
[04:09.320 -> 04:10.440] and it was actually quite difficult
[04:10.440 -> 04:12.120] to get the car to do donuts.
[04:12.120 -> 04:13.800] And a lot of these running show car events
[04:13.800 -> 04:14.960] are in quite tight spaces,
[04:14.960 -> 04:18.840] so it's important that you've got a feeling of some control.
[04:18.840 -> 04:20.440] And I also found out that they don't have
[04:20.440 -> 04:21.880] a drainage system there,
[04:21.880 -> 04:24.440] in as much that rainwater,
[04:24.440 -> 04:26.120] it just sort of comes into the streets
[04:26.120 -> 04:28.600] and then it finds its way, I don't know,
[04:28.600 -> 04:29.940] into the undergrowth or something.
[04:29.940 -> 04:31.380] They don't have a classic drain.
[04:31.380 -> 04:33.840] So you gotta be careful if you have a downpour.
[04:33.840 -> 04:36.240] But I think possibly the craziest one
[04:36.240 -> 04:39.800] in terms of numbers was in Argentina,
[04:39.800 -> 04:44.480] which my first ever pole position was in Argentina
[04:44.480 -> 04:48.440] and in 1995, and they have a racing history there.
[04:48.440 -> 04:51.900] So the real fan base and it's quite a European mix
[04:51.900 -> 04:53.480] for a South American country.
[04:53.480 -> 04:56.000] So we had close to 100,000 people come out
[04:56.000 -> 04:59.400] to watch a Formula One car be demonstrated on the streets.
[04:59.400 -> 05:01.060] Incredible, and you did mention then,
[05:01.060 -> 05:03.400] like you're often in quite tight confines
[05:03.400 -> 05:05.440] where you have to try to perform and do donuts
[05:05.440 -> 05:07.400] and quite tight turning circles.
[05:07.400 -> 05:09.960] Have you ever had any close calls while at a show run?
[05:09.960 -> 05:11.440] Yeah, I remember in Barcelona,
[05:11.440 -> 05:14.240] we did a demonstration up at the old Grand Prix track,
[05:14.240 -> 05:17.240] which is up above, I'm trying to remember the name, sorry,
[05:17.240 -> 05:21.740] is it Montjuic, which is where they had the Olympics,
[05:21.740 -> 05:23.360] actually, in Barcelona as well.
[05:23.360 -> 05:30.600] And so the circle for turning at one end was probably only about four meters wide
[05:30.600 -> 05:33.000] and a Grand Prix car is four meters long.
[05:33.000 -> 05:36.600] So you had to be right up against the barrier when you whipped it round.
[05:36.600 -> 05:40.400] So pretty close, but you know that's all part of the challenge
[05:40.400 -> 05:44.400] and obviously safety is an important aspect when we're doing these demonstrations.
[05:44.400 -> 05:48.000] But you're not at very high speed on a lot of the occasions.
[05:48.000 -> 05:51.000] It's about getting people as close to the car as possible.
[05:51.000 -> 05:57.000] Whether they're old fans or whether they're new fans who just found themselves stumbling across the events,
[05:57.000 -> 06:02.000] we want them to engage with Formula One and be long-term fans.
[06:02.000 -> 06:05.360] You must have collected a lot of stamps in your passport.
[06:05.360 -> 06:08.120] Do you know the exact number of how many countries
[06:08.120 -> 06:09.640] you've been to in your lifetime?
[06:09.640 -> 06:11.320] I don't actually know the exact number,
[06:11.320 -> 06:15.040] but I've been very lucky to have traveled the world
[06:15.040 -> 06:19.960] extensively through Formula One and across the continents
[06:19.960 -> 06:24.960] and to some very sort of off the beaten path places.
[06:25.000 -> 06:26.780] to some very sort of off the beaten path places.
[06:30.840 -> 06:33.520] And to do it as a, let's say a rebel racing ambassador to do it on behalf of Formula One,
[06:33.520 -> 06:35.520] of course means that you're well,
[06:35.520 -> 06:38.240] you know, you're well looked after when you're at the event.
[06:38.240 -> 06:40.240] So it's a bit of a magic carpet ride
[06:40.240 -> 06:42.200] and on a lot of occasions.
[06:42.200 -> 06:45.320] But the reassuring thing for me on my journey
[06:45.320 -> 06:47.040] is as wonderful as the world is,
[06:47.040 -> 06:50.840] and I would recommend travel to anyone who gets that chance,
[06:50.840 -> 06:52.200] there's no place like home,
[06:52.200 -> 06:53.680] and home is where your heart is
[06:53.680 -> 06:57.320] or where your life has been established.
[06:57.320 -> 07:00.240] So I love to go and travel,
[07:00.240 -> 07:03.000] but it reminds me just how content I am
[07:03.000 -> 07:04.040] in the place where I live.
[07:04.040 -> 07:06.720] Is there anywhere in the world we haven't been to yet
[07:06.720 -> 07:10.080] where you'd love to see Formula 1 go for the first time?
[07:10.080 -> 07:11.800] Well, I think it'd be quite nice to go to Hawaii.
[07:11.800 -> 07:13.320] I've been to Hawaii personally,
[07:13.320 -> 07:15.960] but I think we should either do a running show car run there
[07:15.960 -> 07:17.800] or have a Grand Prix there.
[07:17.800 -> 07:21.360] Get some nice beaches for afterwards.
[07:21.360 -> 07:27.680] Formula 1 is a truly global sport and business and I think it reflects
[07:27.680 -> 07:34.520] everyday business in many ways because it's about standing out within your group that
[07:34.520 -> 07:40.880] you're competing against and it's about surviving, you know, surviving the tough economics of
[07:40.880 -> 07:45.700] running a Grand Prix team and maintaining success. So I don't think there's many places
[07:45.700 -> 07:49.200] that Formula One hasn't touched on
[07:49.200 -> 07:50.920] or doesn't have a reach to.
[07:52.100 -> 07:54.840] And that's something that if I reflect on my choices
[07:54.840 -> 07:57.100] as a youngster and the opportunities that were given to me,
[07:57.100 -> 08:00.080] then I'm delighted of course that it involved motor racing
[08:00.080 -> 08:01.120] and especially Formula One.
[08:01.120 -> 08:03.100] And some of our listeners might not actually be aware,
[08:03.100 -> 08:08.000] but we use our RB7 and RB8 primarily as our show cars.
[08:08.000 -> 08:10.000] What can you tell us about these cars?
[08:10.000 -> 08:12.000] They're basically beasts to drive, right?
[08:12.000 -> 08:15.000] Yeah, to drive a Grand Prix car is a privilege.
[08:15.000 -> 08:17.000] They're light, they're powerful,
[08:17.000 -> 08:19.000] they don't have any of the complexities
[08:19.000 -> 08:21.000] of the modern hybrid Formula One cars,
[08:21.000 -> 08:24.000] which are actually quite heavy, you know, 730 kilos.
[08:24.000 -> 08:29.300] The cars we use at the demo runs, they don't have any of the KERS system
[08:29.300 -> 08:33.700] fitted, so that makes them even lighter and we don't have to run to FIA
[08:33.700 -> 08:39.080] regulations. So they're very nimble and I think it was a great period for Formula
[08:39.080 -> 08:43.020] One because, you know, the base weight of the car was 605 kilos which is pretty
[08:43.020 -> 08:46.200] impressive when you consider you, you know, you had the capacity weight of the car was 605 kilos, which is pretty impressive when you consider you had the capacity
[08:46.280 -> 08:51.600] to rev the engine to 18,000 rpm and be putting out high 800 horsepower.
[08:51.680 -> 08:54.520] Both V8 engines that make an incredible sound
[08:54.600 -> 08:57.000] and both World Championship-winning cars,
[08:57.080 -> 08:59.040] do they have any different characteristics?
[08:59.120 -> 09:00.920] For show running, not particularly,
[09:01.000 -> 09:06.000] because, again, we're not exploiting the full aerodynamic potential of the car.
[09:06.000 -> 09:14.000] If you put them on track then clearly you know R.B.A. would be more advanced because of the development process that these cars go through.
[09:14.000 -> 09:30.000] But in terms of jumping in and doing the events, they're both equally loud, they're both equally impressive I think for people who are seeing a Grand Prix car for the first time and they're both privileged to have that chance to drive because as you mentioned their DNA is
[09:30.000 -> 09:34.720] in world championships and you don't beat the likes of Mercedes and Ferrari and McLaren
[09:35.280 -> 09:40.480] if you haven't got a quality team and I think that period for Rebel Racing was quite exceptional
[09:40.480 -> 09:50.320] where they had four back-to-back constructors and drivers championships. We touched on it earlier but there's often gigantic crowds at these show runs and we've just mentioned
[09:50.320 -> 09:54.320] how loud those V8 engines are. Can you actually hear the crowd when you're in the cockpit while
[09:54.320 -> 09:57.520] you're in the middle of a donut or is that just white noise?
[09:57.520 -> 10:03.280] Yeah you can, it's so loud in the car and also your focus is very much on where you are with the car
[10:03.280 -> 10:06.720] and making sure that you have a safe run.
[10:06.720 -> 10:08.180] You see them but you don't hear them.
[10:08.180 -> 10:13.300] The crew usually have fire extinguishers at the ready at these live demos.
[10:13.300 -> 10:19.640] Has there ever been any situation where you've seen a car actually catch on fire while you've
[10:19.640 -> 10:20.640] been in there?
[10:20.640 -> 10:25.000] Yeah, in Luxembourg we were doing a demonstration and the car went on fire and I could see it.
[10:25.000 -> 10:31.000] And I was trying to drive back to where a marshals post was so they could put it out quickly, which I managed to do.
[10:31.000 -> 10:33.000] But we had quite a fire on the side of the car.
[10:33.000 -> 10:38.000] And it's not unusual to, at the end of the final demo, when you're really taking the engine,
[10:38.000 -> 10:42.000] you know, we can run the engine up to 120 degrees because it's a pressurised system.
[10:42.000 -> 10:45.080] So the exhausts get incredibly hot at that point
[10:45.080 -> 10:48.440] and you do tend to get some sort of localised bodywork fires
[10:48.440 -> 10:51.800] but there's sacrificial areas that are there really
[10:51.800 -> 10:54.100] to make sure we keep the demonstration going
[10:54.100 -> 10:54.940] as long as it can.
[10:54.940 -> 10:56.800] You know, it must be a bit of a nightmare sometimes
[10:56.800 -> 11:00.760] for the showrun team, all the logistical side of things,
[11:00.760 -> 11:02.200] weather is another factor,
[11:02.200 -> 11:04.740] even bringing old Formula One cars through customs
[11:04.740 -> 11:08.240] must be a bit of a battle sometimes. Can you think of any situations that the
[11:08.240 -> 11:11.520] show car team have found themselves in where you thought maybe a
[11:11.520 -> 11:15.000] show run wasn't going to happen at last minute or anything like that?
[11:15.000 -> 11:22.000] We've been in some pretty extreme places, driving the car when we were in Petra,
[11:22.000 -> 11:26.760] driving the car through, ultimately, ultimately a sort of desert,
[11:26.840 -> 11:28.680] was challenging.
[11:28.760 -> 11:34.960] You can imagine sucking all the sand in and just the dust everywhere around the car.
[11:35.040 -> 11:36.320] It is extreme conditions.
[11:36.400 -> 11:38.960] The guys are not dealing with proper garages.
[11:39.040 -> 11:43.080] They're having to take in the back of vehicles
[11:43.160 -> 11:46.000] all the equipment that's necessary to run these cars.
[11:46.000 -> 11:51.000] So I don't take it for granted at all how lucky we are to, first of all, be given the permissions
[11:51.000 -> 11:53.000] to come to the countries and do the demonstrations.
[11:53.000 -> 12:01.000] But I think that, yes, there's an element of this, of course, which is a marketing strategy from Rebol Racing,
[12:01.000 -> 12:10.340] but in many ways it's a gift to the public of the various countries that we go to that we bring a Formula One car, one of the fastest forms of circuit racing
[12:10.340 -> 12:13.200] in the world, and put it right in the middle of their cities.
[12:13.200 -> 12:16.680] And you know, we've even seen on occasions where we've gone into a country and done a
[12:16.680 -> 12:21.240] live demo and then they've ended up hosting Grands Prix in the not-too-distant future.
[12:21.240 -> 12:22.480] What are your thoughts on that?
[12:22.480 -> 12:25.640] Yeah, we drove the Formula One car for the first time
[12:25.640 -> 12:29.280] in Austin before the track was completed.
[12:29.280 -> 12:32.160] Baku, we drove along the waterfront
[12:32.160 -> 12:33.680] even before it was announced
[12:33.680 -> 12:34.760] the Grand Prix would be going there.
[12:34.760 -> 12:38.960] So I'm curious to see if that works for South Africa
[12:38.960 -> 12:43.480] when we go there end of May, beginning of June of this year.
[12:43.480 -> 12:44.480] It'll be interesting to see
[12:44.480 -> 12:48.040] if we end up having a Grand Prix again there. Do you still get a massive thrill when you jump
[12:48.040 -> 12:51.300] behind the wheel of an F1 car even if it is just for a live demo and do you see
[12:51.300 -> 12:54.820] yourself stopping anytime soon? Well I think it's one of those things that as
[12:54.820 -> 12:59.180] long as you're invited to do it and certainly the way my mind is I'll not
[12:59.180 -> 13:03.220] turn down that opportunity because it's a great reminder and it's a privilege to
[13:03.220 -> 13:09.320] jump in a Grand Prix car. There's been very few people ever have the chance to race a Grand Prix car,
[13:09.320 -> 13:14.160] never mind be part of a world championship winning team like Red Bull Racing
[13:14.160 -> 13:17.080] and to travel around promoting the cars.
[13:17.080 -> 13:21.160] But I guess there'll be a point where either my suit doesn't fit anymore
[13:21.160 -> 13:24.840] or I just, you know, ten years away from driving,
[13:24.840 -> 13:25.680] there'll be a point where
[13:25.680 -> 13:28.100] naturally someone else is a better fit.
[13:28.100 -> 13:34.300] Just before we finish DC, would you mind telling our listeners where you actually find yourself right now and what you're doing here?
[13:34.300 -> 13:48.060] Well, we're on the 62nd floor, I think, or the 72nd floor in Hanoi, looking out across the site of where the first Vietnamese Grand Prix will be hosted. We're in the executive lounge here, which is probably why you can hear a little bit
[13:48.060 -> 13:53.800] of hustle and bustle and teas and coffees getting made.
[13:53.800 -> 13:58.680] And we're about to go out and face the intense heat, which if they have the Grand Prix in
[13:58.680 -> 14:01.640] this sort of weather, that's really going to push the drivers hard.
[14:01.640 -> 14:05.440] So we're going to head over to where the track will be and we have
[14:05.440 -> 14:11.400] a running show car event and then tonight we'll have a DJ set as well which is going
[14:11.400 -> 14:16.320] to attract tens of thousands of people. So looking forward to continuing to promote Formula
[14:16.320 -> 14:20.200] 1. Thanks for your time DC. Thank you. Thanks DC. Great to hear from you on the podcast.
[14:20.200 -> 14:28.000] You mentioned it there, all Formula 1 cars now use a V6 hybrid turbo engine, but on the show runs we use our RB7 car which have a V8 engine.
[14:28.000 -> 14:33.000] They have a very distinctive sound which adds to the experience for all the spectators.
[14:33.000 -> 14:37.000] Now, we want to give you a sense of the sound a live demo has to offer,
[14:37.000 -> 14:51.000] so shut your eyes and have a listen to our RB7 firing up here.
[14:57.000 -> 15:01.000] That is a very satisfying sound. Here it is with just a few revs.
[15:06.000 -> 15:27.760] Now get ready, this is the RB7 opening up at full speed. Imagine being there for that.
[15:27.760 -> 15:29.040] They sound incredible.
[15:29.040 -> 15:32.880] As well as a great driver, we have a pretty exceptional team for these show runs.
[15:32.880 -> 15:37.080] Tom went to catch up with Tony Burrows and Mark Willis, who put the whole experience
[15:37.080 -> 15:38.080] together.
[15:38.080 -> 15:42.200] I'm here with two people that are possibly the envy of the entire factory here in Milton
[15:42.200 -> 15:44.160] Keynes and Red Bull Racing.
[15:44.160 -> 15:45.040] Arguably have the best jobs the entire factory here in Milton Keynes and Red Bull Racing, arguably have
[15:45.040 -> 15:49.580] the best jobs in the factory. Tony, Winty, can you boys just run me through quickly what
[15:49.580 -> 15:50.580] it is that you guys do?
[15:50.580 -> 15:55.040] My name is Tony Burrows and I'm the Support Team Manager at Red Bull Racing. Part of my
[15:55.040 -> 16:01.560] job is to manage the show car side of things as well. So yeah, we do testing of the current
[16:01.560 -> 16:06.640] car and travel the world with our historic cars and
[16:06.640 -> 16:07.640] show off to the public.
[16:07.640 -> 16:12.760] And we see Tony just touched on it there mate, it's not just about the marketing factor and
[16:12.760 -> 16:17.400] the live demonstrations, you still have quite an important functional role as well as the
[16:17.400 -> 16:18.400] race support team.
[16:18.400 -> 16:22.440] Yeah, we still support the races, we go out and cover for any guys that are off sick or
[16:22.440 -> 16:23.440] have other commitments.
[16:23.440 -> 16:25.280] Also we're going to have a testing.
[16:25.280 -> 16:26.600] So it's a lot going on throughout the year
[16:26.600 -> 16:28.720] apart from doing the glory show runs.
[16:28.720 -> 16:31.120] Tony, do you remember the very first time
[16:31.120 -> 16:32.880] that we as Red Bull Racing
[16:32.880 -> 16:35.000] did one of these live demonstrations?
[16:35.000 -> 16:36.520] You've been here from the very beginning.
[16:36.520 -> 16:38.720] I've got a feeling it was
[16:38.720 -> 16:40.720] when we opened a tunnel in Switzerland.
[16:40.720 -> 16:43.920] I believe it was one of the longest tunnels in Europe
[16:43.920 -> 16:45.120] at the time, whether it still is
[16:45.120 -> 16:49.920] or not I'm not sure, but that was great fun and it was good to get out there for the first
[16:49.920 -> 16:50.920] time with Red Bull.
[16:50.920 -> 16:53.760] And how have things changed from back then to now?
[16:53.760 -> 16:58.560] Like as you say, you're a very professional outfitter, you're actually supporting in Formula
[16:58.560 -> 17:02.680] 1 testing on the current car as well, but whenever there are some gaps that allow for
[17:02.680 -> 17:07.880] it in the calendar we take you guys out to do some live demonstrations. So how has the setup
[17:07.880 -> 17:14.120] changed from back then to now? I think now it's a lot bigger, the whole team's a
[17:14.120 -> 17:17.960] lot bigger and their ambitions of what we want to do especially regarding show
[17:17.960 -> 17:21.560] runs is a lot bigger. I mean we've done some fantastic shows you wouldn't have
[17:21.560 -> 17:30.880] dreamed of doing years ago you know running cars on helipads on beaches on frozen ice through deserts you name it we go to the
[17:30.880 -> 17:35.120] extreme now which is it's fantastic to be part of that anyway. As you mentioned we
[17:35.120 -> 17:40.240] take the car to some pretty extreme places altitude snow ice sand what are
[17:40.240 -> 17:43.760] some of the challenges associated with keeping a fleet of Formula One cars
[17:43.760 -> 17:45.480] operational for these live demos?
[17:45.480 -> 17:48.400] And which cars do we actually use for this?
[17:48.400 -> 17:52.320] We've got two RB7s and an RB8 that we use for these show runs.
[17:52.320 -> 17:54.280] They're just great cars.
[17:54.280 -> 17:58.240] The old V8s, they're very stable, very solid.
[17:58.240 -> 17:59.600] The cars are very reliable.
[17:59.600 -> 18:02.200] They're not as delicate as they are now.
[18:02.200 -> 18:03.960] We've beefed them up a little bit.
[18:03.960 -> 18:05.800] We run the cars quite high.
[18:05.800 -> 18:07.560] We fit fans onto them,
[18:07.560 -> 18:11.160] so because they're moving a lot slower on show car events,
[18:11.160 -> 18:13.320] you haven't got the air cooling running through
[18:13.320 -> 18:15.240] over the radios to keep the engines cool.
[18:15.240 -> 18:16.800] So we fit fans on them,
[18:16.800 -> 18:20.280] which are not on the standard Formula One cars.
[18:20.280 -> 18:22.960] Other than that, it's pretty much as it finished running.
[18:22.960 -> 18:27.000] I mean, basically, yeah, as soon as we took it off the track,
[18:27.000 -> 18:30.000] polish it, take the ride heights up, and take it on the road.
[18:30.000 -> 18:35.000] And, Winstead, what sort of crew do we have to take out to these live demonstrations?
[18:35.000 -> 18:37.000] Is there a number of people that come with the car?
[18:37.000 -> 18:41.000] Yeah, I mean, we take a very small crew compared to what the race team carry these days.
[18:41.000 -> 18:50.320] Basically, we'll have three mechanics, a logistics guy, a team manager and a couple of marketing people. But it's a lot less than what a race team take, but
[18:50.320 -> 18:51.920] it's enough for what we need.
[18:51.920 -> 18:57.160] I want to talk quickly with both of you about the Kitzbühel run that Max Verstappen did
[18:57.160 -> 19:01.160] a couple of years ago, which in my mind is possibly one of the most extreme things we've
[19:01.160 -> 19:03.760] ever done. How exactly did we pull that off?
[19:03.760 -> 19:06.440] Yeah, I'm not quite sure how we pulled that off.
[19:06.440 -> 19:09.400] It was some big thinking by Austria
[19:09.400 -> 19:11.840] and what they wanted to do and what they wanted to achieve.
[19:11.840 -> 19:13.760] I think they had more of a vision
[19:13.760 -> 19:15.720] on how it was gonna pan out than what we did.
[19:15.720 -> 19:17.600] I think we went there very nervous
[19:17.600 -> 19:20.040] and not sure how it was gonna work out.
[19:20.040 -> 19:22.760] But yeah, I mean, the first day we tried to run the car,
[19:22.760 -> 19:23.800] it just went nowhere.
[19:23.800 -> 19:25.280] We got about 20 feet out of the garage
[19:25.280 -> 19:26.480] and just sunk in the snow.
[19:26.480 -> 19:27.720] It wasn't going anywhere else.
[19:27.720 -> 19:30.520] So overnight, we had some snow chains made locally.
[19:30.520 -> 19:32.000] And then we spent the next night
[19:32.000 -> 19:34.400] modifying the car to fit the snow chains,
[19:34.400 -> 19:37.040] which wasn't as easy as we thought it was gonna be.
[19:37.040 -> 19:38.640] So it involved taking quite a lot of the brake ducts off,
[19:38.640 -> 19:39.680] trimming the floor,
[19:40.800 -> 19:42.200] just doing stuff that we wouldn't normally do
[19:42.200 -> 19:44.140] to just get the car to run with the snow chains.
[19:44.140 -> 19:46.020] But finally, it all came together.
[19:46.020 -> 19:47.400] Were you a bit nervous watching Max
[19:47.400 -> 19:51.020] get quite close to the edge there in a Formula One car?
[19:51.020 -> 19:52.940] The first time we had to drive off the edge of the mountain
[19:52.940 -> 19:54.500] down the bottom of the ski slope,
[19:54.500 -> 19:56.180] I was hesitant about sending him.
[19:56.180 -> 19:57.660] We sent him and it was fine, but yeah,
[19:57.660 -> 20:00.340] it was very daunting watching him disappear over the edge,
[20:00.340 -> 20:01.340] hoping he was gonna come back.
[20:01.340 -> 20:04.660] And Tony, from sand and snow to ice,
[20:04.660 -> 20:06.400] you know, there's been quite a few surfaces
[20:06.400 -> 20:09.280] we've driven the car on, even in a helipad.
[20:09.280 -> 20:11.680] What, in your mind, is the craziest show run
[20:11.680 -> 20:13.440] you've ever been a part of?
[20:13.440 -> 20:14.640] There's been several.
[20:14.640 -> 20:17.360] I mean, we've driven on beaches in the Caribbean,
[20:17.360 -> 20:18.880] which was a difficult surf.
[20:18.880 -> 20:21.120] You'd think it'd be quite soft running on sand,
[20:21.120 -> 20:22.600] but it's very abrasive.
[20:22.600 -> 20:24.800] It's like rubbing sandpaper on a tire.
[20:24.800 -> 20:25.120] A couple
[20:25.120 -> 20:28.840] of runs up and down, you're down to the canvas and you have to change the tyres again before
[20:28.840 -> 20:34.080] they pop. So that was quite an awkward one. Driving up the mountains, we went up the Himalayas
[20:34.080 -> 20:39.360] and you're running at 18,000 feet and everyone's struggling to breathe, you've got oxygen bottles
[20:39.360 -> 20:45.200] with you, the engine's just barely keeping alive. That was quite an extreme one.
[20:45.200 -> 20:49.680] Frozen lakes in Canada in winter when it's minus 10
[20:49.680 -> 20:52.320] and then you're trying to just keep the cars warm
[20:52.320 -> 20:53.560] instead of trying to keep them cool,
[20:53.560 -> 20:55.360] which is what you seem to be doing the rest of the year.
[20:55.360 -> 20:56.760] There you're just trying to keep it warm enough
[20:56.760 -> 20:59.800] so the axles will turn, they're not freezing.
[20:59.800 -> 21:02.720] So, yeah, we had studded tires on the car there
[21:02.720 -> 21:07.080] and, yeah, all great fun, really memorable events to
[21:07.080 -> 21:08.080] be part of.
[21:08.080 -> 21:12.680] Obviously the RB7 during its racing days was a phenomenal car, a world championship winning
[21:12.680 -> 21:13.680] car.
[21:13.680 -> 21:17.720] What about that car makes it so resilient and so well suited to being a show run car?
[21:17.720 -> 21:20.080] They were a lot simpler than they are now.
[21:20.080 -> 21:25.040] I mean now they're so complex, they seem to be so complex and the limits that they're built to
[21:25.680 -> 21:30.720] are so finite that you wouldn't be able to run up a mountain with the RB15 I don't think,
[21:30.720 -> 21:35.520] not without doing some major changes to it. And the engines were a lot simpler, just a basic
[21:35.520 -> 21:41.600] V8 engine compared to the hybrids that we've got now. That'll run in any single V8, you know,
[21:42.160 -> 21:47.120] we've run in, as I say, freezing cold temperatures, roasting hot temperatures,
[21:47.120 -> 21:52.560] sand, dust storms, you name it, we're running it and that'll handle everything.
[21:52.560 -> 21:57.520] Obviously for both of you two when you're there, safety has to be paramount, not just for the
[21:57.520 -> 22:01.760] driver in the car but also often there's quite large crowds there. What are some of the things
[22:01.760 -> 22:04.960] you guys have to do to make sure that the showrun is safe?
[22:04.960 -> 22:08.680] Well we have to make sure that the road is clear and stable and there's no big potholes, you
[22:08.680 -> 22:13.160] know, we weld down the manhole covers so they don't get sucked up, there's barriers, double
[22:13.160 -> 22:16.040] barriers down the length of the track to keep the people back.
[22:16.040 -> 22:19.440] What is the best reaction you've ever seen from a fan in the crowd, you know, and is
[22:19.440 -> 22:23.120] that what makes this job sort of so rewarding for you guys?
[22:23.120 -> 22:25.200] The crowd in Zandvoort in Holland is quite big
[22:25.200 -> 22:28.480] and they're loud when Max does his events there.
[22:28.480 -> 22:30.480] That's quite good to listen to.
[22:30.480 -> 22:33.120] But a lot of the crowds around the world do love hearing the V8
[22:33.120 -> 22:35.120] and there is a big cheer every time.
[22:35.120 -> 22:37.120] You can't hear it, but when the engine turns off
[22:37.120 -> 22:39.120] you just hear this massive cheer from the crowd.
[22:39.120 -> 22:42.160] Yeah, you just get all sorts of reactions from
[22:42.160 -> 22:46.580] as he says, just people cheering to some people
[22:46.580 -> 22:49.620] just getting hysterical I think it just get overwhelmed by them they'll just
[22:49.620 -> 22:54.280] stand there just screaming and crying but I think sometimes you can get
[22:54.280 -> 22:58.960] overwhelmed by the just the smell of the tyre rubber the noise I mean it is
[22:58.960 -> 23:02.560] intense especially on the street circuit where the sounds track between buildings
[23:02.560 -> 23:05.600] and some people it just gets a bit too much for them.
[23:05.600 -> 23:10.200] Are you guys able to single out a particular run you've done, a favourite destination you've
[23:10.200 -> 23:11.200] ever been to?
[23:11.200 -> 23:13.200] I know it might be hard to pick this one.
[23:13.200 -> 23:15.000] Yeah, I mean there's many.
[23:15.000 -> 23:18.560] There's some iconic ones, you know, the car driving past the Bellagio with the fountains
[23:18.560 -> 23:22.440] going at night with the crowd completely unaware of what was going on.
[23:22.440 -> 23:28.540] I mean, sat in the camera car following that and seeing people's faces as they're walking past me night out seeing that it's quite incredible
[23:28.540 -> 23:32.880] But yeah, they're all in a dream. Yeah, they're in a dream. Yeah. Yeah ones that do stick out is
[23:34.120 -> 23:40.160] Going up the Khaldungla pass in the Himalayas, you know where you're you're 18,000 feet
[23:40.600 -> 23:43.160] That the view is just absolutely phenomenal
[23:43.680 -> 23:48.120] You're at the border between India, China, and Pakistan.
[23:48.120 -> 23:49.600] It's the highest road in the world.
[23:49.600 -> 23:52.360] Knowing that you're running on the highest possible road
[23:52.360 -> 23:55.400] in the world is quite phenomenal.
[23:55.400 -> 23:57.920] And then racing through the deserts in Jordan
[23:57.920 -> 24:02.080] and helipads, the Burj Al Arab, being part of that,
[24:02.080 -> 24:04.640] it's just so many of them.
[24:04.640 -> 24:06.680] Have you ever had any close calls?
[24:06.680 -> 24:09.760] I guess Kitzbühel would have been one of the moments where you just sat there and thinking
[24:09.760 -> 24:12.680] this isn't going to happen, this isn't going to be possible.
[24:12.680 -> 24:18.000] Yeah, sometimes it's when spectators, sometimes they get a bit out of control and you end
[24:18.000 -> 24:21.200] up with army, police and everything trying to keep them in control.
[24:21.200 -> 24:28.960] Obviously we will never send the car unless we're 100% sure that not only the driver is going to get hurt, but the spectator is not going to get hurt
[24:28.960 -> 24:34.440] themselves. So it's been many times, and also weather, sometimes we've sent him out there
[24:34.440 -> 24:39.240] in absolutely torrential conditions and he's just pooting along in first gear just so the
[24:39.240 -> 24:45.000] fans see something because they've stood out in a monsoon for hours, us waiting for it to dry.
[24:45.000 -> 24:51.000] So yeah, the weather and spectators are about two things that would stop a run, I think.
[24:51.000 -> 24:55.000] We had to stop an event in Oman, the Middle East, through rain and storms.
[24:55.000 -> 25:00.000] So we managed to get out and do one run and one donut and had to stop because it was not safe enough for the spectators.
[25:00.000 -> 25:04.000] I mean, you've touched on it there, we sort of do two different types of runs.
[25:04.000 -> 25:09.080] Sometimes we'll be there on a filming project and obviously there's also the live fan experience
[25:09.080 -> 25:10.720] runs that we do.
[25:10.720 -> 25:12.560] Which type of runs are more difficult?
[25:12.560 -> 25:16.120] Is it more tricky when you have a film crew there telling you we just need to get the
[25:16.120 -> 25:19.880] perfect shot, we need the perfect shot, or are those crowd elements more difficult?
[25:19.880 -> 25:31.000] The filming events usually end up being longer days because the directors usually want to be running at sunrise and sunset are the two parts of the day where they get the best shots.
[25:31.000 -> 25:36.000] Because the light is right. But it doesn't mean that we're off between that.
[25:36.000 -> 25:48.600] So we're usually up at 4 o'clock, you're getting the day break shot of the car driving, then you'll go to various events during the day driving, getting film footage in, you know, could be anywhere in the city or
[25:48.600 -> 25:53.240] out in the desert and then the evening shop they'll want to be somewhere else
[25:53.240 -> 25:57.520] so you can have days where you're working from 4 a.m. until midnight. It
[25:57.520 -> 26:02.080] does get a bit tough those ones but still great fun. And you know we've been
[26:02.080 -> 26:05.000] to so many places but is there anywhere on the map which you've
[26:05.000 -> 26:08.360] circled and said, one day, if only we could go there, I'd love that.
[26:08.360 -> 26:10.680] I think it'd be great to see some more of Africa.
[26:10.680 -> 26:16.200] I mean, we've done South Africa, which was fantastic, but it'd be great to see a few
[26:16.200 -> 26:18.080] more different parts of Africa.
[26:18.080 -> 26:22.760] We've done pretty much the whole of South America, all of Europe, and most of Asia.
[26:22.760 -> 26:25.400] I think, yeah, Africa is probably untouched
[26:25.400 -> 26:26.240] for us at the moment.
[26:26.240 -> 26:29.440] I'd go with that, Africa needs a bit more seeing to.
[26:29.440 -> 26:32.280] And Antarctica, that's the only continent I've not been to.
[26:32.280 -> 26:34.600] So one day somebody will think of a reason
[26:34.600 -> 26:36.920] and a way of getting there, so bring that one on as well.
[26:36.920 -> 26:38.640] It'd be nice to tick off the last continent, wouldn't it?
[26:38.640 -> 26:39.480] Yeah, yeah.
[26:39.480 -> 26:41.120] And then that'll only leave the moon.
[26:41.120 -> 26:42.240] Yeah.
[26:42.240 -> 26:43.360] Well, it's funny you should say that.
[26:43.360 -> 26:45.280] Yeah, there is a plan in place.
[26:45.280 -> 26:51.440] Top secret. And just before we finish, what is the next run you guys are off on?
[26:51.440 -> 26:56.800] We're testing with obviously with the RB15 in Barcelona next week. Yeah, we've
[26:56.800 -> 27:01.640] got Max's Fan Days Anvil coming up and a show run in South Africa. Yeah, back to
[27:01.640 -> 27:05.840] Cape Town again and then on to I think Denmark. Denmark and then maybe
[27:05.840 -> 27:11.440] something in England once. Yeah yeah so yeah it's busy it's full on. But you wouldn't change it for
[27:11.440 -> 27:15.680] anything? No got the best job in the world. More sunshine events rather than snow cold ones.
[27:17.440 -> 27:21.360] I'm sure there weren't many arguments for the Caribbean show run guys. Thank you so much for
[27:21.360 -> 27:29.000] your time. No problem. No thank you my pleasure. Thanks boys. We look forward to seeing the footage of you all over the world and possibly the moon in the near future then.
[27:29.000 -> 27:33.400] As you've heard, we've been to every inhabited continent with the Live Demo Team,
[27:33.400 -> 27:37.200] from cobbled city streets in Europe to baking deserts in the Americas.
[27:37.200 -> 27:41.600] We've conquered the highest road in the Himalayas, skated on frozen rivers in Canada,
[27:41.600 -> 27:44.200] and drifted across golden Caribbean beaches.
[27:44.200 -> 27:49.480] With that comes the challenge of actually getting the RB7 cars to these remote locations.
[27:49.480 -> 27:53.220] We wanted to get our number one mechanic Mark Lenton on the podcast so he can talk you through
[27:53.220 -> 27:54.220] the process.
[27:54.220 -> 28:01.240] We always take two cars to an event, one spare car and one actual running car.
[28:01.240 -> 28:09.300] This is because we don't run a spares package, so if anything goes wrong we've always got a substitute car to go to. So we pack the cars and Milton
[28:09.300 -> 28:13.560] Keens in three boxes. We have to break the cars down a little bit to get them
[28:13.560 -> 28:18.480] into these boxes because they're special sized to fit in any aircraft. It's very
[28:18.480 -> 28:22.340] tight getting them out, we're playing with about five millimeters of distance
[28:22.340 -> 28:25.920] between the front and rear of the car, so position forklift
[28:25.920 -> 28:33.600] driving is all that matters. Our next step is to unpack the cars and assemble all the components.
[28:33.600 -> 28:40.880] Generally takes around about nine hours to unpack the car and build them complete, ready for fire up.
[28:40.880 -> 28:47.120] Thanks Mark. That's almost it for this edition of Talking Bull. We wanted to leave you with some exclusive music from Flaws.
[28:47.120 -> 28:50.120] They're massive in the Red Bull Racing garage at the moment,
[28:50.120 -> 28:52.280] and we think you're going to like their latest tune,
[28:52.280 -> 28:53.480] When We Were Young.
[28:53.480 -> 28:55.320] We'll be back very soon with more action
[28:55.320 -> 28:57.560] from the track, the paddock, and the factory.
[28:57.560 -> 29:07.500] Until then, take care. Right on the money, all this glitter and gold It just keeps everyone worth looking for
[29:07.500 -> 29:11.500] So stop if you're honest, ready or not
[29:11.500 -> 29:30.000] You tick all the boxes, but wish you were something you are not
[29:30.000 -> 29:36.000] I wasn't dreaming of all these worn out places
[29:36.000 -> 29:40.000] When we were young, when we were young
[29:40.000 -> 29:45.000] I wish I knew what we'd become when we were young
[29:48.000 -> 29:53.000] I wasn't dreaming of these worn out places
[29:53.000 -> 29:57.000] When we were young, when we were young
[29:57.000 -> 30:02.000] I wish I knew what we'd become when we were young
[30:18.480 -> 30:19.480] And I'll keep being me Take it or leave it, let's take over gold I wish I was better And I'm wishing you something you want
[30:19.480 -> 30:20.480] I'm searching something you want I'm searching something you want
[30:20.480 -> 30:21.480] I'm searching something you want I'm searching something you want
[30:21.480 -> 30:22.480] I'm searching something you want I'm searching something you want
[30:22.480 -> 30:23.480] I'm searching something you want I'm searching something you want
[30:23.480 -> 30:24.480] I'm searching something you want I'm searching something you want
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[30:28.000 -> 30:36.000] I'm searching something you want
[30:38.000 -> 30:43.000] I wasn't dreaming of these worn out places
[30:43.000 -> 30:45.000] When we were young
[30:45.000 -> 30:47.000] When we were young
[30:47.000 -> 30:49.000] I wish I knew what we'd become
[30:49.000 -> 30:51.000] When we were young
[30:55.000 -> 30:59.000] I was a dream and all these worn out places
[30:59.000 -> 31:01.000] When we were young
[31:01.000 -> 31:03.000] When we were young
[31:03.000 -> 31:05.900] I wish I knew what we'd become When we were young, when we were young I wish I knew what we'd become
[31:05.900 -> 31:07.900] When we were young
[31:12.900 -> 31:17.400] Ooh, ooh, ooh
[31:18.400 -> 31:20.900] Take me away
[31:20.900 -> 31:25.400] Ooh, ooh, ooh
[31:25.400 -> 31:28.400] From the ordinary
[31:34.000 -> 31:37.000] Second life
[31:43.600 -> 31:53.000] I wasn't dreaming love is one of places When we were young, when we were young
[31:53.000 -> 31:57.000] I wish I knew what we'd become When we were young
[32:04.000 -> 32:03.000] I wasn't dreaming love is water
[32:09.000 -> 32:08.000] This is when we were young, when we were young
[32:12.000 -> 32:11.000] I wish I knew what we'd become
[32:16.000 -> None] When we were young, when we were young you