DC and Webber the Red Bull Reunion

On this edition of Talking Bull we have an exclusive reunion between ex Red Bull drivers David Coulthard and Mark Webber! Find out about their highlights from their time in the team, their take on the 2021 season and hear DC take a lap around the iconic Silverstone track in Webber’s RB7!

- In this episode of the Talking Bull podcast, ex-Red Bull drivers David Coulthard (DC) and Mark Webber engage in a lively discussion about their experiences with the team and share their thoughts on the ongoing 2021 Formula One season.

1. **Silverstone Memories:**
- Both Coulthard and Webber reminisce about their successful moments at Silverstone, emphasizing the iconic nature of the circuit and the special emotions it evokes in drivers.

2. **RB7: A Winning Machine:**
- Webber highlights the RB7 as a dominant car, particularly suited to Sebastian Vettel's driving style, leading to extraordinary consistency and exceptional results.

3. **Ergonomics and Technology:**
- Coulthard emphasizes the importance of ergonomics and the careful design of the steering wheel and other controls in Formula One cars, noting the rapid evolution of technology in the sport.

4. **Max Verstappen's Championship Contention:**
- Webber praises Red Bull's fighting spirit and their ability to excel in street circuits, highlighting Max Verstappen's strong performances and the team's focus on strategy and pit stops.

5. **Sergio Perez's Adaptation:**
- Webber acknowledges Sergio Perez's struggles on Saturdays but commends his improved consistency and racecraft on Sundays, particularly his victory in the Azerbaijan Grand Prix.

6. **Impact of Canceled Races:**
- Coulthard and Webber discuss the potential implications of canceled races on the championship, speculating on which circuits might favor Red Bull or Mercedes based on their strengths and weaknesses.

7. **Red Bull's Continuity and Legacy:**
- Both drivers express their appreciation for the continuity of staff at Red Bull, attributing the team's success to the dedication and passion of its members.

8. **DC's Silverstone Lap:**
- Coulthard takes a nostalgic lap around Silverstone in the RB7, providing commentary on the car's handling and grip, emphasizing the immense capabilities of a Formula One car.

[00:00.000 -> 00:05.600] Hi there, this is Christian Horner.
[00:05.600 -> 00:07.600] You've won the Austria Grand Prix!
[00:07.600 -> 00:09.600] This is Sergio Perez.
[00:09.600 -> 00:11.600] Hi, I'm Max Steppen.
[00:11.600 -> 00:14.600] You are listening to Talking Bull, the official Red Bull Racing podcast.
[00:14.600 -> 00:16.600] Oh, this feels good!
[00:18.600 -> 00:23.600] Hello and welcome to Talking Bull and what a season 2021 is shaping up to be.
[00:23.600 -> 00:28.000] As a team, we've won the last few races with Max taking victory in Monaco
[00:28.000 -> 00:31.000] and Sergio taking the top step in Azerbaijan.
[00:31.000 -> 00:34.000] And despite his tyre issues in Baku,
[00:34.000 -> 00:39.000] we're also pleased to say that Verstappen is still topping the Drivers' Championship too.
[00:39.000 -> 00:40.000] So well done, Max.
[00:40.000 -> 00:42.000] We can never take anything for granted though,
[00:42.000 -> 00:45.800] and the team have their heads down focusing on the remainder of the season.
[00:45.800 -> 00:47.800] There is still a long way to go.
[00:47.800 -> 00:54.200] While most have been busy at the factory, we had a brilliant track day with ex-Red Bull drivers David Coulthard and Mark Webber.
[00:54.200 -> 01:00.800] We thought what a perfect time to get them together for a chat about their years with the team and their thoughts on the season so far.
[01:00.800 -> 01:02.600] Over to you, DC.
[01:02.600 -> 01:04.600] This is the Talking Bull podcast.
[01:04.600 -> 01:07.560] I'm David Coulthard, a very aging ex-Grand Prix driver,
[01:07.560 -> 01:09.400] and I'm sitting here with Mark Webber,
[01:09.400 -> 01:11.800] who's not quite such an aging ex-Grand Prix driver,
[01:11.800 -> 01:14.440] but crucially, we're at Silverstone.
[01:14.440 -> 01:16.640] We're in the back of the Red Bull racing truck.
[01:16.640 -> 01:21.240] And yeah, Silverstone has been pretty kind to us both, Mark.
[01:21.240 -> 01:22.080] It has, hasn't it?
[01:22.080 -> 01:22.920] Yeah.
[01:22.920 -> 01:23.760] You've won it a couple of times.
[01:23.760 -> 01:27.800] Yep, and as you say, we're both getting a bit greyer, but tremendous memories
[01:27.800 -> 01:32.900] for both of us with you, you know, not with Rebel Racing here particularly, but
[01:32.900 -> 01:37.360] in terms of myself and your memories together with us at Silverstone are
[01:37.360 -> 01:42.560] incredible. And you know, the venue is so special, I think it means so much to both
[01:42.560 -> 01:47.800] the teams you drove for, we're British at the time, all the mechanics and the great people involved in our program.
[01:47.800 -> 01:50.600] So that brought an extra emotion for it, for the wins.
[01:51.280 -> 01:52.800] Fans were amazing.
[01:52.800 -> 01:54.360] And it's an iconic circuit.
[01:54.360 -> 01:57.880] So everything that sort of ticks all the big boxes, Silverstone,
[01:59.160 -> 02:01.360] weather, you never know what's going to happen.
[02:01.680 -> 02:03.800] You've really got to step up as a driver and get the job done.
[02:03.800 -> 02:06.880] So I will never forget the victories here.
[02:06.880 -> 02:08.840] The reaction from the mechanics, the Red Bull guys,
[02:08.840 -> 02:12.000] and girls, was world class, and it was awesome.
[02:12.000 -> 02:15.360] So anyone who's listening to this should know
[02:15.360 -> 02:17.120] that you are from down under.
[02:17.120 -> 02:19.640] I landed Heathrow, and I think I was here,
[02:19.640 -> 02:21.440] maybe not the day, but definitely the second day,
[02:21.440 -> 02:22.960] I just wanted to drive to Silverstone.
[02:22.960 -> 02:25.440] I just wanted to see where Senstone. I just wanted to see
[02:31.840 -> 02:37.680] where Senna, Prost, Piquet and even yourself, mate. I mean you were having some great success in the mid-90s already, you know, and I was in Formula Ford then. So for me to be able to come
[02:37.680 -> 02:42.320] here and get so close to track, it was also just the size of the circuit. We don't have these type
[02:42.320 -> 02:45.960] of these length tracks in Australia, I mean we've got Bathurst obviously, but just the size of the circuit. We didn't have these type of, these length tracks in Australia. The, I mean, we've got Bathurst obviously,
[02:45.960 -> 02:48.960] but in just in terms of the scale of the facility here
[02:48.960 -> 02:51.360] was something I hadn't seen before.
[02:51.360 -> 02:52.600] So that was great.
[02:52.600 -> 02:54.240] And I did my first Formula 4 test here
[02:54.240 -> 02:55.560] and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, Formula 3.
[02:55.560 -> 02:56.440] It's always been good to me.
[02:56.440 -> 02:58.320] I was pretty rubbish on most tracks in the world,
[02:58.320 -> 02:59.600] but I was on pole in Formula 3.
[02:59.600 -> 03:00.640] I won in Formula 3000.
[03:00.640 -> 03:01.600] I won in sports cars.
[03:01.600 -> 03:02.440] I won in Formula 1.
[03:02.440 -> 03:06.160] So for whatever reason, this track and I just,
[03:06.160 -> 03:08.600] we just clicked and I just loved driving it.
[03:08.600 -> 03:11.080] It was really, really special, so, yes.
[03:11.080 -> 03:14.120] Well, I am going to have the opportunity later
[03:14.120 -> 03:17.080] to drive one of your winning cars, RV7.
[03:17.080 -> 03:20.760] I may jump in and do a couple laps of the Grand Prix circuit.
[03:20.760 -> 03:22.520] I do the occasional show runs,
[03:22.520 -> 03:24.520] so I know how the systems operate.
[03:28.480 -> 03:32.960] But, you know, it's a matey, that was a matey car. Yeah, it was mate, off the back of, you know, RB6 of course,
[03:32.960 -> 03:34.880] they go in chronological order as we know,
[03:34.880 -> 03:39.600] was the sort of, you know, that was a Bridgestone car, if we like,
[03:39.600 -> 03:41.800] and the RB7 was the first year on Pirellis,
[03:41.800 -> 03:44.800] so we had a big shift there to understand how they would work
[03:44.800 -> 03:45.840] and the driving style,
[03:45.840 -> 03:46.680] et cetera, et cetera.
[03:46.680 -> 03:49.360] But it was a very dominating car,
[03:49.360 -> 03:50.180] particularly with Sebastian.
[03:50.180 -> 03:51.320] Sebastian loved the RB7.
[03:51.320 -> 03:54.640] He was extremely phenomenal.
[03:54.640 -> 03:57.240] He was just, his results for extraordinary consistency
[03:57.240 -> 03:58.520] was next level for him.
[03:58.520 -> 04:02.560] So, mate, as you know, the technology moves on so quick,
[04:02.560 -> 04:15.000] the ergonomics sitting in the car, you know, I know you in the car, I know you're into the details and there's nothing that needs to be in the car that doesn't need to be there in terms of the steering wheel and so the ergonomics of how we operate the vehicles.
[04:15.000 -> 04:19.000] So, you know, that was a, what mate, you finished in 06 did you?
[04:19.000 -> 04:25.560] Oh yes, that's right. So yeah, already three or four years, you know, things move along pretty quickly, you know, in our sport.
[04:25.560 -> 04:28.360] So, mate, you're an experienced pilot,
[04:28.360 -> 04:29.880] that's like an old aviation boy, mate,
[04:29.880 -> 04:31.960] you know, you're the guy that needs to get behind the wheel
[04:31.960 -> 04:33.620] and it's in the safe pair of hands.
[04:33.620 -> 04:35.400] So, you'll love it.
[04:35.400 -> 04:36.840] I mean, mate, there's no better place, is there?
[04:36.840 -> 04:38.040] Yeah, it's brilliant.
[04:38.040 -> 04:38.960] High speed.
[04:38.960 -> 04:39.800] Sun's out.
[04:39.800 -> 04:42.880] Yeah, I know one thing, I won't be taking cops flat out.
[04:42.880 -> 04:45.800] I'll be dropping. You won't be alone in your
[04:45.800 -> 04:52.880] underpants anyway. Yeah, absolutely, dropping a couple of gears. It's a crack and corner and I think that's so hard for
[04:52.880 -> 04:56.560] people to explain you know the first of all how low your eye line is the
[04:56.560 -> 05:00.700] sensation of the speed of this circuit is so amplified I think just because you
[05:00.700 -> 05:03.660] of course we're in the same driving position all around the world but when
[05:03.660 -> 05:08.800] you go when you come to somewhere like here and you've got flick you know the flicking of inside
[05:08.800 -> 05:12.080] barriers and sort of you know the curbs coming past you a difference of threading the needle
[05:12.080 -> 05:15.680] through maggots and beckett's it is really an extraordinary feeling for us and obviously you'll
[05:15.680 -> 05:19.280] feel some of that today but not as if you're on a qualifying lap when you're at your peak but
[05:20.320 -> 05:26.160] it's great that uh mate red bull get you out you're still lean and mean, and you're gonna have a run, which is awesome.
[05:26.160 -> 05:28.160] Yeah, looking forward to that.
[05:28.160 -> 05:32.040] What I'm also enjoying is this season's Formula One.
[05:32.040 -> 05:33.720] Now, we got together on Channel 4,
[05:33.720 -> 05:35.720] so sometimes we're tag teaming,
[05:35.720 -> 05:38.720] sometimes you're there at races, as you were in Baku.
[05:38.720 -> 05:42.400] And what looked like was going to be
[05:42.400 -> 05:44.620] another great victory for Max suddenly,
[05:44.620 -> 05:45.680] and you know how this in
[05:45.680 -> 05:51.080] this sport can be cruel. You go from the highest of highs to the lowest of lows and then I
[05:51.080 -> 05:54.720] guess what happened in the end with Sergio winning and then Lewis not scoring points
[05:54.720 -> 06:00.120] it was fairly neutral in terms of the championship. But the last time Red Bull were leading both
[06:00.120 -> 06:04.240] drivers and constructors championships is when you and Seb were paired up. So put us
[06:04.240 -> 06:05.360] in that cockpit.
[06:05.360 -> 06:08.040] What's the sort of emotion that Max will be going through?
[06:08.040 -> 06:09.840] What do you think of the season so far?
[06:09.840 -> 06:12.140] Well, the season's been awesome so far.
[06:12.140 -> 06:14.080] We can all vouch for that.
[06:14.080 -> 06:16.800] I think that Red Bull's form off the back of 2020
[06:16.800 -> 06:19.400] saw that stable regulations,
[06:19.400 -> 06:21.680] that there was some form coming at the end of last year.
[06:21.680 -> 06:23.240] I think there was a few first lap incidents
[06:23.240 -> 06:27.760] that you could question or argue, sorry, that Max could have won a few Grand Prix's finished
[06:27.760 -> 06:32.760] in the year out, which he did in Abu Dhabi, but maybe a few more. So the form was there.
[06:32.760 -> 06:36.360] Whether it was going to carry into 21, it was always a nervous sort of moment. For all
[06:36.360 -> 06:40.520] of us as a neutral, I love seeing Red Bull do well, but also Lewis, you have to take
[06:40.520 -> 06:51.040] your hat off to how well he's driven in the last, in the last, well, his whole career. So, it's a great battle. I think that Red Bull are brilliant street
[06:51.040 -> 06:56.560] fighters. They know how to get in the trenches and win the finer detail. Look at Pitstops,
[06:56.560 -> 06:59.920] for example. You know, I think they're also very good on strategy. And I'm not saying that Merck
[06:59.920 -> 07:04.480] are, but I'm just saying Red Bull will not shy away from a fight when it comes to trying to
[07:04.480 -> 07:07.360] go the duration on this championship championship and they're used to that
[07:07.360 -> 07:12.960] They've got some experienced campaigners in the in the team not so much max, but I think that you know to answer your question
[07:12.960 -> 07:14.960] What will he be thinking? I think he's gonna stay very present
[07:14.960 -> 07:20.480] He has to say, you know, it is it's very much a cliche. We're ready to race by race. Unfortunately, he's got to just keep
[07:21.360 -> 07:25.400] Performing at every circuit as best he can. They lost a huge amount of points.
[07:25.400 -> 07:30.740] That was, he was, you know, 10 up on the road until the fight, the failure came. He was
[07:30.740 -> 07:35.320] 10 points up on Lewis with three laps to go. And then, as you say, it all reversed out
[07:35.320 -> 07:41.120] into them being neutralised, not really going. So, Max can do it. And Sergio's now in the
[07:41.120 -> 07:49.520] ascendancy and Valtteri is now, I think he's really struggling inside that team mentally to work out how his future might look and that's only going to play
[07:49.520 -> 07:50.520] into Red Bull's hands.
[07:50.520 -> 07:53.000] Have you got any insight actually when you mention about Valtteri and we're seeing
[07:53.000 -> 07:56.720] a little bit with Daniel Ricciardo, previous Grand Prix winner for Red Bull Racing, partly
[07:56.720 -> 08:03.960] Young Driver Programme, can you explain what can lead to drivers losing that extra yard
[08:03.960 -> 08:05.540] or in footballing terms or
[08:05.540 -> 08:09.960] what is it psychological it's not physical no I think I mean yeah huge
[08:09.960 -> 08:15.340] part of it obviously is psychological DC also understanding Valtteri let's be
[08:15.340 -> 08:17.780] honest he's had a couple of good qualifying laps this year he drove well
[08:17.780 -> 08:21.900] in Monaco he had a dodgy pit stop there he's had he's more than fair share of
[08:21.900 -> 08:25.720] bad luck absolutely but also he's had some really average performances.
[08:25.720 -> 08:32.920] Mate, in our time, we never saw that levels of aggression in terms of the drop of form.
[08:32.920 -> 08:33.920] These cars, they are tricky.
[08:33.920 -> 08:37.600] If you're not on the edge with them, you just lose a tremendous amount of time.
[08:37.600 -> 08:41.980] So you can pull a lap out here and there, but you've got to put the whole weekend together.
[08:41.980 -> 08:47.000] And that's where I think that, again, with Red Red Bull they're looking the the cohesiveness of the team
[08:47.000 -> 08:51.400] is pretty handy. And well easy to of course get the plotters when you've just
[08:51.400 -> 08:55.600] had a win, Che Copera is getting that victory but overall you've been
[08:55.600 -> 09:01.360] impressed how he's adapted to the max factor and changing teams? Sergio is
[09:01.360 -> 09:05.360] he's basically a Pirelli man in many ways.
[09:05.360 -> 09:11.440] I think he's a guy that is magical on the rear tyres when the strategy permits in terms
[09:11.440 -> 09:14.760] of a big one stopper or certain tracks like that like Monza and Baku.
[09:14.760 -> 09:18.160] He's phenomenal in Baku, which we've seen again.
[09:18.160 -> 09:23.600] The Saturdays are still challenging for him to go with the track, go with where the intensity
[09:23.600 -> 09:26.840] is with the Hamilton and Verstappen on Saturday afternoon.
[09:26.840 -> 09:29.760] But on Sundays, he's now measured.
[09:29.760 -> 09:31.480] He's now very consistent.
[09:31.480 -> 09:34.520] And if he can just crack a bit more speed
[09:34.520 -> 09:36.480] out of the car on Saturdays and give himself
[09:36.480 -> 09:39.040] a good position to do the first stint in,
[09:39.040 -> 09:40.360] then he can put pressure on Merck
[09:40.360 -> 09:42.080] and do the job that Red Bull want him to do.
[09:42.080 -> 09:43.080] Which he did in Baku.
[09:43.080 -> 09:44.040] The first lap was awesome.
[09:44.040 -> 09:45.640] He did a really good first lap in Baku,
[09:45.640 -> 09:48.040] and that's what he needs to be doing consistently.
[09:48.040 -> 09:50.520] Looking ahead, the races that are coming up,
[09:50.520 -> 09:52.320] we're still, some races have been dropped
[09:52.320 -> 09:54.120] off the calendar quite late.
[09:54.120 -> 09:59.120] Istanbul has gone, Canada's gone, Singapore has gone.
[09:59.600 -> 10:02.240] Are those tracks that would have suited more America,
[10:02.240 -> 10:04.640] Red Bull, what you got feeling on putting reliability
[10:04.640 -> 10:06.200] to one side,
[10:06.200 -> 10:07.800] and you look across the season,
[10:07.800 -> 10:08.960] do you think there's enough there
[10:08.960 -> 10:10.960] to either favour Merck or favour Red Bull,
[10:10.960 -> 10:13.200] or get your crystal balls out, we want to know?
[10:13.200 -> 10:16.120] Yeah, I think that Merck wouldn't be disappointed
[10:16.120 -> 10:18.480] to see Singapore go, they probably wouldn't be disappointed
[10:18.480 -> 10:20.000] to see Montreal go.
[10:20.000 -> 10:21.980] You know, these sort of smooth type of surfaces,
[10:21.980 -> 10:23.960] we've seen them being a bit hit and miss,
[10:23.960 -> 10:25.720] I mean Lewis is magically Montreal, he's extraordinary at that track. But still we've seen with of smooth type of surfaces we've seen them being a bit hit and miss. I mean, Lewis is magically Montreal.
[10:25.720 -> 10:27.680] He's extraordinary at that track.
[10:27.680 -> 10:29.560] But still we've seen with these smooth type of tracks
[10:29.560 -> 10:32.800] in Monaco and Baku to a degree,
[10:33.760 -> 10:35.920] that's Merc had been a bit flaky
[10:35.920 -> 10:37.900] and Red Bull have certainly delivered on those tracks.
[10:37.900 -> 10:39.960] So going forward, we've got some, you know,
[10:39.960 -> 10:43.640] Ricard is a circuit that can be pretty rough on tyres.
[10:43.640 -> 10:45.040] And let's see with temperatures,
[10:45.040 -> 10:48.080] we haven't had any really beltingly hot Grand Prix's yet.
[10:48.080 -> 10:50.240] Now Lewis keeps talking about how hard it is
[10:50.240 -> 10:51.660] to get the car in the window for qualifying.
[10:51.660 -> 10:54.080] Now is the Red Bull got a bigger operating window?
[10:54.080 -> 10:55.240] Remains to be seen.
[10:56.760 -> 10:58.640] So that's what I'm fascinated.
[10:58.640 -> 11:01.720] When we get into the guts of the summer European season,
[11:01.720 -> 11:03.400] when we're gonna have some hot Grand Prix's
[11:03.400 -> 11:09.040] on some traditional circuits, whether the Merc can react to the last few events that we've seen on the street
[11:09.040 -> 11:13.460] circuits. If they can't, they're in big strife. If they can react and start to get Lewis up
[11:13.460 -> 11:17.440] there and rake some points back, then we're in for a crack in the World Championship.
[11:17.440 -> 11:21.780] But they need to react in Europe on the traditional circuits and start to get their measure of
[11:21.780 -> 11:22.780] Red Bull.
[11:22.780 -> 11:27.520] Now having raced for this team, you were you come to Silverstone as mentioned, you see some of
[11:27.520 -> 11:34.160] the old faces, it is impressive to see how Red Bull is largely unchanged, you know of
[11:34.160 -> 11:38.920] course mechanics come and go and what have you, but you know the core team of engineers,
[11:38.920 -> 11:42.440] designers are as we raced, as you raced.
[11:42.440 -> 11:43.440] Yeah.
[11:43.440 -> 11:46.960] Do you take a walk down memory lane when you come and you see the truck and you're here
[11:46.960 -> 11:47.960] at Silverstone?
[11:47.960 -> 11:52.520] Do you wish you were jumping in your car today rather than me making a mess of it?
[11:52.520 -> 11:54.640] I do take a walk down memory lane, mate.
[11:54.640 -> 11:56.720] I love seeing the faces.
[11:56.720 -> 12:00.240] What hits us straight between the eyes is how fast time goes.
[12:00.240 -> 12:04.320] You don't realise that I'm 45 this year and it's like, wow, I didn't see that long ago
[12:04.320 -> 12:07.600] when I stopped. So it does go quickly and all the characters
[12:07.600 -> 12:12.160] involved and you know Nev who I know sorts out all of our racing kit blessers
[12:12.160 -> 12:15.280] she packed a little bit of some overalls for me today in case I want to have a spin
[12:15.280 -> 12:19.040] you know so that was that was no no no mate I'm not gonna have a spin you've
[12:19.040 -> 12:22.680] got it mate you got it she put so she went they found my old kit which was
[12:22.680 -> 12:25.320] nice and I've only got one good lap left,
[12:25.320 -> 12:27.760] I think I've got more laps than that.
[12:27.760 -> 12:28.820] You've got plenty, mate.
[12:28.820 -> 12:30.120] But that's Red Bull, you know, like you said,
[12:30.120 -> 12:31.800] the continuity of staff has been, I think,
[12:31.800 -> 12:34.280] a nice part of their success story, you know,
[12:34.280 -> 12:36.440] and Red Bull in general.
[12:36.440 -> 12:38.760] It is about performance, yes, if you're contributing
[12:38.760 -> 12:40.560] and you're bringing something to the team's performance
[12:40.560 -> 12:42.520] and you're consistently delivering,
[12:42.520 -> 12:45.480] whatever your role is, there's a job for you
[12:45.480 -> 12:47.320] and that's great and I love that about Red Bull.
[12:47.320 -> 12:53.520] So yep, I see a lot of familiar faces here and bless them when I go to the factory and
[12:53.520 -> 12:57.560] whenever I do it I say, I should come here more, I should do it more often.
[12:57.560 -> 13:00.400] I remember when I was racing, I'd come back from Manchester United one night, I was watching
[13:00.400 -> 13:04.560] a football match really late and it was the winter phase when all the guys were getting
[13:04.560 -> 13:05.240] their cars prepped up
[13:05.240 -> 13:06.080] for the new season.
[13:06.080 -> 13:06.900] I went and bought some pizzas
[13:06.900 -> 13:10.160] and I took them to the workshop and into the race bays.
[13:10.160 -> 13:12.960] And they were just great moments
[13:12.960 -> 13:15.940] watching people with passion and engineering brilliance
[13:15.940 -> 13:16.880] put together.
[13:17.920 -> 13:19.440] Externally, when people watch our sport,
[13:19.440 -> 13:20.720] they see all the polished nature
[13:20.720 -> 13:25.360] and how just extraordinary the execution of it is magnificent.
[13:25.360 -> 13:29.040] But when you get down to the guts of it, it's just still great people with great passion
[13:29.040 -> 13:31.160] and enjoying what they do.
[13:31.160 -> 13:33.120] I think that's a very good point, well made.
[13:33.120 -> 13:36.560] It's not the name above the door, it's the people within.
[13:36.560 -> 13:43.000] And the name you get brand equity and Red Bull when they come into Formula One 2005,
[13:43.000 -> 13:44.000] people didn't really know what to expect.
[13:44.000 -> 13:46.120] You know, what can an energy drinks company do?
[13:46.120 -> 13:50.200] But with clear strategy, clear investment in people,
[13:50.200 -> 13:52.920] Mr. Manish, it's empowering and then allowing,
[13:52.920 -> 13:56.520] you know, Christian and the rest of the senior management
[13:56.520 -> 13:57.440] to get on with the job.
[13:57.440 -> 14:01.440] It's created a legacy of success within Formula One,
[14:01.440 -> 14:03.360] which is pretty remarkable when you consider
[14:03.360 -> 14:05.000] you're up against your Mercedeses
[14:05.000 -> 14:08.680] and your Ferraris and your Renaults and Alpinas as now.
[14:08.680 -> 14:09.800] That's right, mate.
[14:09.800 -> 14:11.760] It was interesting just before we jumped on this podcast,
[14:11.760 -> 14:17.200] talking to the guys, talking about their heritage sector.
[14:17.200 -> 14:19.080] Now, they have got a bit of a heritage sector
[14:19.080 -> 14:21.040] in terms of the racing that's gone before them.
[14:21.040 -> 14:25.800] And that has happened over the last 15, know, there's 15, 16 years now
[14:25.800 -> 14:26.780] they've been heavily involved.
[14:26.780 -> 14:29.800] So it goes quick and people have choices
[14:29.800 -> 14:30.720] in terms of employment.
[14:30.720 -> 14:32.160] They can, you know, this is an industry
[14:32.160 -> 14:34.320] where if you're good enough, you can,
[14:34.320 -> 14:36.520] if you're that good, you can have choices
[14:36.520 -> 14:37.720] about where you might want to work
[14:37.720 -> 14:39.860] and the sort of environment you want to display your skills
[14:39.860 -> 14:43.260] in and looks like, thankfully, Red Bull.
[14:43.260 -> 14:45.520] It's extraordinary how many of the same faces
[14:45.520 -> 14:47.840] are still there and loving their job.
[14:47.840 -> 14:50.320] Yeah, there's a chap called Simon Adams
[14:50.320 -> 14:52.840] who I used to share a house with in Milton Keynes,
[14:52.840 -> 14:56.040] and he was one of the early employees.
[14:56.040 -> 14:58.160] Tony Burrows, who's here today.
[14:58.160 -> 15:02.280] Then, you know, he showed me a picture that I signed
[15:02.280 -> 15:04.760] when I was with Paul Stewart Racing,
[15:04.760 -> 15:06.520] which is the foundations of what then became
[15:06.520 -> 15:08.440] the Stewart Grand Prix, Jaguar, now Red Bull.
[15:08.440 -> 15:11.320] I signed a picture in 1990 to him saying,
[15:11.320 -> 15:13.880] I want to be in your car in 92,
[15:13.880 -> 15:16.440] because he was running the Formula 3000 side of it,
[15:16.440 -> 15:17.880] which is like Formula Two.
[15:17.880 -> 15:21.000] And so therefore, I don't remember being that certain
[15:21.000 -> 15:22.400] I was going to move up the formulas.
[15:22.400 -> 15:25.440] But these incredibly skilled men and women
[15:25.440 -> 15:28.640] have grown with us through our time in the sport.
[15:28.640 -> 15:31.400] And it's like a band of, I was going to say a band of brothers,
[15:31.400 -> 15:34.540] but of course there's women within the organisation as well,
[15:34.540 -> 15:36.400] and that's increasing.
[15:36.400 -> 15:39.140] So in terms of the health of the sport,
[15:39.140 -> 15:41.540] the health of Red Bull Racing,
[15:41.540 -> 15:44.940] your health sitting here, talking bull on this podcast,
[15:44.940 -> 15:46.720] all good in the Weber household?
[15:46.720 -> 15:48.560] Yeah, all good, mate, all fine.
[15:48.560 -> 15:50.320] Obviously, it's been bizarre, hasn't it,
[15:50.320 -> 15:52.480] the last year or so for the whole world,
[15:52.480 -> 15:56.280] but our industry and our sport is pushing on,
[15:56.280 -> 15:57.240] probably like no other.
[15:57.240 -> 15:59.920] I think we've been very much a template for other sports
[15:59.920 -> 16:01.640] in terms of the challenges that come with our sport,
[16:01.640 -> 16:04.320] whether it's freight, whether it's moving people around
[16:04.320 -> 16:07.380] through different jurisdictions and the rest of it. It's been a challenge
[16:07.380 -> 16:12.880] but it's been an honour to still be involved on the fringes of watching the sport do what
[16:12.880 -> 16:19.880] it does best. But yeah, I think with Mr Domenicali in there now, fresh eyes, a fresh lens over
[16:19.880 -> 16:26.600] bringing the sport into new areas and I think that type of thinking, it was, I was at the MotoGP a few weekends ago
[16:26.600 -> 16:29.040] and I was with Stefano and we saw, you know,
[16:29.040 -> 16:31.160] of course he has an immense amount of respect
[16:31.160 -> 16:33.200] for how Red Bull go about their sporting activities
[16:33.200 -> 16:35.880] and their marketing activities and celebrating the athlete
[16:35.880 -> 16:37.520] and celebrating the push and the boundaries.
[16:37.520 -> 16:39.400] And he's like, we need a bit more of this in F1.
[16:39.400 -> 16:41.320] We just need more of this in F1.
[16:41.320 -> 16:43.320] And we said that when the Red Bull Motorhome turned up,
[16:43.320 -> 16:47.600] it was still, it was a pretty sterile paddock wasn't a Formula One so they brought that fun and
[16:47.600 -> 16:51.000] energy but there's sort of the serious approach to to our sport and I think
[16:51.000 -> 16:54.720] that's what ultimately you still need yes there is a lot of stake but
[16:54.720 -> 16:57.960] ultimately still it's only sport it's only sport but there's a lot of stake we
[16:57.960 -> 17:04.440] all want to win and I think that Red Bull yeah I have immense respect for how
[17:04.440 -> 17:05.760] the other athletes go about it
[17:05.760 -> 17:08.180] and that's why I still, you know, I know this is a,
[17:08.180 -> 17:10.600] again, it's a Red Bull podcast, but holy hell,
[17:10.600 -> 17:11.880] extraordinary brand to work for.
[17:11.880 -> 17:12.720] It is indeed.
[17:12.720 -> 17:15.140] Well, I think, Mark, you've definitely earned your stripes
[17:15.140 -> 17:17.240] in Formula One and in motorsport.
[17:17.240 -> 17:18.760] Red Bull definitely gave us wings.
[17:18.760 -> 17:19.600] They did, Mark.
[17:19.600 -> 17:21.080] Continues to give us some wings.
[17:21.080 -> 17:23.880] I need to now go and get focused on driving RB7.
[17:23.880 -> 17:28.960] Are you absolutely sure I can't persuade you to do a couple laps, even if you pop my helmet on,
[17:28.960 -> 17:31.800] just so I can, you know, people can think that I've still got it?
[17:31.800 -> 17:36.240] I haven't tinkled with your helmet, mate, so I'm gonna leave that well alone,
[17:36.240 -> 17:39.800] but I can see your second can of Red Bull here on the table, so you are cranked,
[17:39.800 -> 17:43.160] ready to rumble. So I'm gonna go down a stand at Copse, the fastest corner,
[17:43.160 -> 18:05.000] and we're gonna see what you got, mate. See how big your balls are, son. Ripping. Oh my God. We're talking bull here, mate. to together again and we've managed to get some of the radio chat from DC's lap at
[18:05.000 -> 18:09.380] Silverstone too. You get an incredible insight into what it's like to drive the
[18:09.380 -> 18:25.520] RB7. Take a listen to this. a very successful Grand Prix car, world championship car, 12 victories in total
[18:25.520 -> 18:34.000] and well, I may be 50 years old but this is like Christmas coming to a kid
[18:34.000 -> 18:41.000] OK, a little bit lumpy getting out of the garage, had anti stall but we're on our way
[18:41.000 -> 18:46.240] and then, what was the original test that Silverstone that I would have driven
[18:47.200 -> 18:54.080] when I was lucky enough to win the Grand Prix here? I was going to the main circuit down towards
[18:55.120 -> 19:00.400] Beckett and I'm not brave enough to do that anymore.
[19:07.000 -> 19:09.000] Oh wow, thank you Silverstone, thank you Red Bull. What a feeling!
[19:09.000 -> 19:15.000] I'm sure a proper driver would feel the car sliding, but at the speed I'm comfortable doing.
[19:15.000 -> 19:19.000] It's pretty reminding actually, just how much grip a Grand Prix car has, even a mule.
[19:19.000 -> 19:31.120] If I can be unkind as to call it a mule, it's still pretty impressive. To drive
[19:31.120 -> 19:40.000] like this, it's perfectly safe, predictable, not at all nasty. Of course, with the next
[19:40.000 -> 19:45.720] threshold I'm sure that you would find it some flaws, flaws in terms of what I'm doing.
[19:45.720 -> 19:46.720] It's pretty impressive.
[19:46.720 -> 19:47.720] Nice one, DC.
[19:47.720 -> 19:49.880] How brilliant is that to hear?
[19:49.880 -> 19:54.040] That's it for this special edition of the podcast from Silverstone.
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[20:11.600 -> 20:21.280] from the track, the paddock and the factory here on Talking Bull very soon. Until then, take care.
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