Bulls in Baku

On this edition of Talking Bull from Baku in Azerbaijan, Max Verstappen and Sergio Perez interview each other once again! Find out what they like about champagne showers, the swimming pool in Monaco and hear the highlights of their seasons so far! Plus, they answer questions from some members of our loyalty scheme, the Paddock! Enter a world of unique experiences and incredible rewards – join now at https://win.gs/ThePaddock

This episode of the Talking Bull podcast features a candid conversation between Formula One drivers Max Verstappen and Sergio Perez, hosted by Nicola Hume. The drivers discuss their recent performances, upcoming races, and personal interests, offering insights into their lives on and off the track.

* **Max Verstappen's Championship Position:** Verstappen expresses his satisfaction with leading the Drivers' Championship after a challenging start to the season, acknowledging that the battle with Ferrari is close and requires focus and consistency.

* **Sergio Perez's Monaco Victory:** Perez reflects on his victory at the Monaco Grand Prix, highlighting the race's unpredictability and the difficulty of defending his lead. He also confirms his contract extension with the Oracle Red Bull Racing Team for two more years.

* **Baku Circuit:** The drivers discuss the upcoming race in Baku, Azerbaijan, known for its fast-paced action and surprises. Perez has had success on the circuit, finishing on the podium three times in the past five races held there.

* **Champagne Showers:** Both drivers express their enjoyment of the champagne showers after race victories, particularly the one-two finishes they have achieved together. Verstappen jokingly mentions that he aims at Perez's eyes during the celebrations.

* **Miami Grand Prix:** Verstappen highlights the Miami race as a highlight of the season, appreciating the challenge of having to pass cars to secure the win. He also mentions the long stint he had to endure on hard tires.

* **Perez's Monaco Pool Incident:** Perez recalls a humorous incident during the Monaco Grand Prix, where he accidentally stepped on a swimmer's foot while jumping into the pool. He also mentions that he witnessed a man cleaning his feet in the pool, prompting him to avoid jumping in.

* **Busy Racing Schedule:** The drivers acknowledge the hectic schedule of the season, with frequent travel and commitments. They express a desire to find a better way to connect races to reduce travel time and improve efficiency.

* **Favorite Circuits:** Verstappen enjoys the Baku circuit, but acknowledges its unpredictability and the need to be prepared for chaos. Perez has had less success in Baku but hopes to turn things around this weekend.

* **Return to Canada:** The drivers look forward to returning to Canada for the first time since 2019, praising the unique and beautiful track in Montreal.

* **Relaxation Between Races:** Verstappen enjoys playing golf but admits he needs to be more consistent with his practice to improve. Perez encourages him to give golf a try, emphasizing the importance of patience in learning the sport.

* **Celebrity Encounters:** Both drivers share their experiences meeting celebrities, with Verstappen mentioning his encounter with Bad Bunny in Miami. Perez highlights his meeting with Dutch soccer player Robin van Persie.

* **World Cup Predictions:** The drivers discuss their predictions for the upcoming World Cup, with Verstappen expressing support for both Mexico and the Netherlands. Perez acknowledges the challenges facing the Mexican team due to generational changes.

* **Disguise Attempts:** Verstappen and Perez discuss their attempts to disguise themselves to avoid recognition, but admit that they are often recognized due to their distinctive features.

* **Cat Update:** Verstappen provides an update on his cats, Toto and Louis, describing their affectionate but demanding behavior.

* **Public Karting Competition:** Verstappen shares his experience competing in a public karting competition in Las Vegas, expressing his disappointment at not being able to perform well due to the bumpy track and his lack of practice.

* **Favorite Dog Breed:** Verstappen reveals his preference for Golden Retrievers and Golden Poodles, emphasizing his love for dogs and his upbringing with them.

* **Importance of Speed and Reliability:** Both drivers agree that while speed is crucial for winning, reliability is equally important to ensure race finishes. They emphasize the need for a balance between the two.

* **Car Naming:** Verstappen reveals that he does not name his race cars, unlike his former teammate Sepp, who named all of his cars.

* **Practice vs. Natural Talent:** The drivers discuss the importance of both practice and natural talent, acknowledging that while natural talent can be advantageous, it is insufficient without hard work and dedication.

* **Favorite Pit Lane Entry:** Verstappen and Perez share their preferences for pit lane entries, with Verstappen praising the Sao Paulo circuit and Perez highlighting the challenge and excitement of the Montreal pit lane.

* **Upcoming Races:** The drivers express their excitement for the upcoming races, including the Monaco Grand Prix and the Canadian Grand Prix. They emphasize the need to maintain focus and consistency to achieve success.

[00:00.000 -> 00:07.000] Hi there, this is Christian Horner.
[00:07.000 -> 00:10.000] Max Verstappen, you are the world champion!
[00:10.000 -> 00:11.000] This is Sergio Perez.
[00:11.000 -> 00:15.000] Hi, it's Max Verstappen. You're listening to Talking Bull, the official Oracle Rally
[00:15.000 -> 00:16.000] Racing podcast.
[00:16.000 -> 00:19.000] Oh, this feels good!
[00:19.000 -> 00:24.000] We're back with a brand new episode of Talking Bull. So much has happened since we last met.
[00:24.000 -> 00:25.280] Max Verstappen
[00:25.280 -> 00:30.560] is now topping the Drivers' Championship for 2022. Sergio Perez took a brilliant Grand Prix victory
[00:30.560 -> 00:35.200] at one of the most famous races in the calendar, Monaco, and he also confirmed that he'll be with
[00:35.200 -> 00:40.640] the Oracle Red Bull Racing Team for a further two years, which is fantastic news. Now, you join us
[00:40.640 -> 00:48.000] from Azerbaijan and the incredible street circuit of Baku. Azerbaijan was first introduced onto the Formula 1 calendar in 2016
[00:48.000 -> 00:54.000] and is fast becoming a favourite for fast-paced action and surprises across the racing weekend.
[00:54.000 -> 00:56.000] Tcheko has been on the podium three times here.
[00:56.000 -> 01:01.000] Out of the five races held in Azerbaijan's capital, so there's no doubt he's looking forward to the race
[01:01.000 -> 01:07.120] and Max will be looking to score his first and settle some unfinished business with this street track. It's only right that we
[01:07.120 -> 01:10.560] hand over to our drivers themselves now, they've been once again interviewing
[01:10.560 -> 01:13.920] each other here on Talking Bull, plus we've armed them with some brilliant
[01:13.920 -> 01:19.360] questions from you. Over to you Max and Sergio. So another Talking Bull podcast
[01:19.360 -> 01:25.280] we are very excited and we are ready for it. Okay, let's start.
[01:25.280 -> 01:29.520] Max, a lot has happened since we last did this incredible podcast.
[01:29.520 -> 01:31.040] What's new with you?
[01:31.040 -> 01:32.360] Nothing as we knew.
[01:32.360 -> 01:36.000] Got a bit older, a bit wiser,
[01:36.000 -> 01:40.000] but still the same Max, so nothing really happened.
[01:40.000 -> 01:40.600] Boring.
[01:40.600 -> 01:41.720] A bit boring, yeah.
[01:41.720 -> 01:43.400] Yeah, what can I make of it?
[01:43.400 -> 01:46.400] I mean, I can try to make it interesting, but it's not.
[01:46.400 -> 01:49.200] Chaku, can you let the listeners know where we are right now?
[01:49.200 -> 01:51.600] We are in Baku, in Christian's office.
[01:52.400 -> 01:53.600] He's going to love that one.
[01:53.600 -> 01:56.200] We've had three double podiums so far this year.
[01:56.600 -> 01:59.000] Have you enjoyed the champagne showers?
[01:59.000 -> 02:02.600] Yeah, it's been very enjoyable with the team.
[02:02.600 -> 02:06.800] Especially the one-two, we've had a few of those, they've been really nice.
[02:06.800 -> 02:08.000] At least we get to practice.
[02:08.000 -> 02:10.000] You're always aiming at my eyes.
[02:10.000 -> 02:16.000] The first one, the first one that started to not see what's going on.
[02:16.000 -> 02:19.000] Yeah, because the thing is, if you have to cover your eyes, you don't know where you are.
[02:19.000 -> 02:23.000] But the best was Jorge. I think in one of the podiums he was...
[02:23.000 -> 02:24.000] He got you.
[02:24.000 -> 02:26.000] No, we got him him he couldn't see it
[02:26.000 -> 02:30.200] he was... Wait where was this? He was on the podium together with us in Barcelona right?
[02:30.200 -> 02:35.440] Yeah he was like stopped and he's a bit taller than us right? Yeah it's good.
[02:35.440 -> 02:42.240] Who has the best spraying technique? Who has the best spraying technique? I don't
[02:42.240 -> 02:47.520] know we have to we should set up a competition from now onwards that people can vote on who
[02:47.520 -> 02:49.520] does the best spraying.
[02:49.520 -> 02:50.520] Yeah.
[02:50.520 -> 02:52.160] We should do that.
[02:52.160 -> 02:55.000] That's from now on, we have to rank it.
[02:55.000 -> 02:56.000] Yeah.
[02:56.000 -> 02:58.840] Like you guys have to rank it for us and then we can discuss it.
[02:58.840 -> 03:00.640] I think that's a good one.
[03:00.640 -> 03:01.840] I agree with you.
[03:01.840 -> 03:04.080] We had the energy station back in Monaco this year.
[03:04.080 -> 03:05.000] How was the swimming pool?
[03:05.000 -> 03:09.000] Dangerous, I'll say. I remember when I jumped in, you skated.
[03:09.000 -> 03:13.000] I started to run off because I saw everyone jumping on top of each other.
[03:13.000 -> 03:20.000] I threw Christian with me into the pool, but as I was coming up, I could see these dinosaurs coming into the pool.
[03:20.000 -> 03:26.160] Like, one after the other, I got hit in the head. It was just chaos after that.
[03:26.160 -> 03:27.280] You want to know something?
[03:27.280 -> 03:28.120] Yeah.
[03:28.120 -> 03:28.940] About the swimming pool?
[03:28.940 -> 03:29.780] Yeah.
[03:29.780 -> 03:31.680] On the morning, on the Sunday morning,
[03:31.680 -> 03:33.840] I had to do a bit of a walk, you know,
[03:33.840 -> 03:35.600] around to meet people.
[03:35.600 -> 03:38.280] And I saw a guy, took his socks off.
[03:38.280 -> 03:40.240] And you know when the socks are very new, right?
[03:40.240 -> 03:41.640] Or when you're a bit sweaty.
[03:41.640 -> 03:42.480] That was hot.
[03:42.480 -> 03:43.440] So he cleaned his feet there.
[03:43.440 -> 03:45.320] He cleaned his feet in the pool.
[03:45.320 -> 03:46.320] Nice!
[03:46.320 -> 03:47.320] Yeah, it was very good.
[03:47.320 -> 03:52.320] So when I saw that, I was like, I'm not jumping in the pool, I'm good.
[03:52.320 -> 03:54.320] Thank you, your friends.
[03:54.320 -> 03:55.320] That was amazing, yeah.
[03:55.320 -> 03:56.320] It was really good to see.
[03:56.320 -> 03:59.320] What has been your highlight of the season so far, Max?
[03:59.320 -> 04:02.320] To be honest, the Miami race was quite cool.
[04:02.320 -> 04:10.000] I think because there, you know, we had to really fight for it and actually pass cars for the win.
[04:10.000 -> 04:16.000] Even Jetta in a way was nice, but Miami was really hot, very difficult.
[04:16.000 -> 04:19.000] New track, being in America.
[04:19.000 -> 04:21.000] It was nice to win Miami.
[04:21.000 -> 04:24.000] I think that was a cool experience with the whole...
[04:24.000 -> 04:29.400] I'm normally not the type of guy who likes all this, like, extra stuff.
[04:29.400 -> 04:31.760] Miami and the night was also a highlight.
[04:31.760 -> 04:36.960] Oh yeah, that was a, that was, I went for the long run, I put the hard tire on and then,
[04:36.960 -> 04:37.960] yeah, yeah.
[04:37.960 -> 04:38.960] That was a long stint.
[04:38.960 -> 04:40.800] Yeah, that was a very long stint, to be honest.
[04:40.800 -> 04:45.000] So yeah, let's go for Miami, that was a good highlight.
[04:45.000 -> 04:48.000] Has your Monaco victory sunk in yet?
[04:48.000 -> 04:51.000] And how does it feel to be the first Mexican to win there?
[04:51.000 -> 04:58.000] It's great, you've won Monaco, you know, it's a very special victory as a driver.
[04:58.000 -> 05:02.000] Although it counts the same as any other, it's just the victory that you want to have.
[05:02.000 -> 05:10.240] So yeah, definitely. And it was not a boring one one because the whole race. I mean it rained it was really tricky
[05:10.920 -> 05:17.120] Like it's not like a straightforward win. I drained my tires. Yeah, so then you have to defend like it
[05:17.880 -> 05:24.500] Was a one onwards it was like a very unexpected Monaco race like normally everyone expected it to be really boring right but
[05:24.960 -> 05:27.000] No, it made it really exciting. I think that's good. I agree. It has been a very unexpected Monaco race, like normally everyone expected it to be really boring, right? But it made it really exciting, I think.
[05:27.000 -> 05:28.000] That's good.
[05:28.000 -> 05:29.000] I agree.
[05:29.000 -> 05:33.000] It has been a very busy period of the season, with lots of trouble.
[05:33.000 -> 05:35.000] How have you found the schedule so far?
[05:35.000 -> 05:37.000] Yeah, it's been...
[05:37.000 -> 05:39.000] You know, the last few races have been really busy,
[05:39.000 -> 05:41.000] like a lot of commitments,
[05:41.000 -> 05:43.000] a lot of people around.
[05:43.000 -> 05:46.160] Basically, from Miami onwards, it's been a bit non-stop.
[05:46.160 -> 05:47.000] Flat out, right?
[05:47.000 -> 05:47.960] Flat out.
[05:47.960 -> 05:51.960] And basically it will continue because after this race,
[05:51.960 -> 05:56.600] I have to go to Austria, then I fly straight,
[05:56.600 -> 05:57.880] of course, to Montreux.
[05:57.880 -> 05:59.440] After Montreux, I still need to stay there
[05:59.440 -> 06:00.880] because I have to go to New York.
[06:00.880 -> 06:06.520] So it's very busy, very very hectic and I think we
[06:06.520 -> 06:11.360] should find a better way of connecting races because I mean we go to Baku then
[06:11.360 -> 06:15.560] we go to Montreal all like completely the other way and then we go back to
[06:15.560 -> 06:19.440] Europe. It's a long way to Montreal. Yeah it's like for sure there must be a
[06:19.440 -> 06:23.840] better way of fitting all these races in. I agree. Yeah that's that would help a
[06:23.840 -> 06:25.040] lot already
[06:25.040 -> 06:27.720] because you lose so much time at the moment traveling.
[06:27.720 -> 06:29.440] Yes, what people don't realize, you know,
[06:29.440 -> 06:31.200] that we have the races,
[06:31.200 -> 06:34.200] we have so many commitments with partners.
[06:34.200 -> 06:35.040] Yeah.
[06:35.040 -> 06:36.400] Plus the simulator.
[06:36.400 -> 06:37.240] Yeah.
[06:37.240 -> 06:38.060] Which you love.
[06:38.060 -> 06:38.900] Oh yeah, it's amazing.
[06:38.900 -> 06:42.080] It's the best thing, it's the highlight of the week.
[06:42.080 -> 06:43.760] Checo, are you going to be more careful
[06:43.760 -> 06:46.000] about what you say in the cool-down room after Monaco?
[06:46.000 -> 06:48.000] With Christian again.
[06:48.000 -> 06:54.000] That was amazing. When I heard that, when you passed by with Christian and I saw this camera, I was like, oh my God.
[06:54.000 -> 06:56.000] But it's done now, you signed, it's okay.
[06:56.000 -> 07:00.000] Yeah, it's fine. There was nothing to hide and it was good that it was out.
[07:00.000 -> 07:03.000] I mean, it was supposed to be released here, but of course, after what you said, they had to...
[07:03.000 -> 07:07.500] It just made it a bit easier to announce it a bit earlier.
[07:07.500 -> 07:12.500] So it's good because then if you do it too close to this weekend, then everyone is asking...
[07:12.500 -> 07:14.500] Exactly. I think it was perfect.
[07:14.500 -> 07:16.500] ...how everyone forgot it.
[07:16.500 -> 07:18.500] Max, you're leading the championship.
[07:18.500 -> 07:22.500] Did you expect to be here and how is the battle different this year?
[07:22.500 -> 07:25.040] You know, starting the season before we had, well,
[07:25.040 -> 07:26.880] had done any races, you don't know, right?
[07:26.880 -> 07:30.020] Like it's really, maybe we have a good car, maybe we don't.
[07:31.120 -> 07:32.680] Then it seemed like we had a competitive car,
[07:32.680 -> 07:33.600] so I was like, okay, you know,
[07:33.600 -> 07:36.100] we can be in the fight for the championship.
[07:36.100 -> 07:38.720] But then, after retiring two times
[07:38.720 -> 07:42.940] and I was 46 or 47 points down,
[07:42.940 -> 07:45.560] I was like, this is gone, Like it's not happening, but then
[07:46.280 -> 07:51.800] or at least it will take a very long time to catch up and then basically in three races as a team we turn it
[07:51.800 -> 07:54.000] around and both of us are now like up there.
[07:54.520 -> 07:56.200] It's
[07:56.200 -> 08:01.960] Yeah, quite satisfying. But of course, we also know clearly it can also change really quickly, right?
[08:01.960 -> 08:07.000] So we have to just be on our toes, we have to really focus on not retiring anymore
[08:07.000 -> 08:10.000] because already the two we had is too much.
[08:10.000 -> 08:13.000] So, yeah, it's been a bit hectic and crazy
[08:13.000 -> 08:16.000] the first few races we've had so far.
[08:16.000 -> 08:17.000] Yeah, I would agree.
[08:17.000 -> 08:19.000] You now have your future confirmed at Red Bull.
[08:19.000 -> 08:22.000] Are you ready for a lot more episodes of Talking Bull together?
[08:22.000 -> 08:24.000] Yeah, I'm so much looking forward to that.
[08:24.000 -> 08:25.840] Man, you should have agreed in the country not to do it.
[08:28.000 -> 08:29.280] Actually, no, I love it.
[08:29.280 -> 08:33.440] You know, it's a favorite part of the deal, you know, the Talking Bull.
[08:33.440 -> 08:34.560] The media days.
[08:34.560 -> 08:35.280] The media days.
[08:35.280 -> 08:35.680] Yeah.
[08:35.680 -> 08:36.800] We don't do enough.
[08:36.800 -> 08:39.520] After seven races, the title fight is extremely close.
[08:40.080 -> 08:42.080] What's your ultimate goal for us this season?
[08:42.960 -> 08:48.680] Well, I think as a team, of course, we want to try and win also the Constructors after
[08:48.680 -> 08:53.740] being close last year, but we had quite a bit of bad luck I think with some retirements
[08:53.740 -> 08:56.040] and just unlucky races.
[08:56.040 -> 09:01.480] I mean, both of us, for example in Hungary, you know, when we got taken out in Turn 1,
[09:01.480 -> 09:05.280] if we both had a good result there, then the constructors would have looked completely
[09:05.280 -> 09:10.600] different. I hope this year we can do it, because I think also the whole team, all the
[09:10.600 -> 09:14.600] team members, they deserve it because of all their hard work already last year. That's
[09:14.600 -> 09:21.600] why I think we'll try to have a good shot at it this year. From my side personally,
[09:21.600 -> 09:25.000] of course, I mean, I tried to win it again. win it again. I mean, we have a good car.
[09:25.480 -> 09:26.920] Of course, it's very close.
[09:26.920 -> 09:28.800] It's a very close fight with Ferrari at the moment.
[09:28.880 -> 09:31.360] And it's all about little details, which can make the difference.
[09:31.440 -> 09:33.680] So, Baku has been good to you.
[09:34.000 -> 09:35.600] Is it one of your favorite circuits?
[09:35.880 -> 09:40.840] I enjoy Baku, but it's a race where I feel like you cannot really plan.
[09:40.840 -> 09:42.400] It's always things coming up.
[09:42.560 -> 09:43.060] Yeah.
[09:43.400 -> 09:45.400] And qualifying, do you remember the qualifying
[09:45.400 -> 09:51.760] last year? We did three laps, it was full of red flags. The race as well, you know,
[09:51.760 -> 09:55.280] a safety car can come at any time, at any point.
[09:55.280 -> 09:58.820] It's always hectic around here, like I think we've only had one boring race, the rest has
[09:58.820 -> 10:00.440] always been really hectic.
[10:00.440 -> 10:05.000] There's always something, so we have to be prepared for chaos this weekend.
[10:05.000 -> 10:10.000] Yeah, I mean, Baikou hasn't been good to me, so it's time to turn it around.
[10:10.000 -> 10:12.000] Always something happens.
[10:12.000 -> 10:14.000] But last year was also really crazy.
[10:14.000 -> 10:18.000] I mean, of course I was upset when I had the puncture and I shunted into the wall,
[10:18.000 -> 10:19.000] but I'll never forget.
[10:19.000 -> 10:21.000] So I had to go to the medical center.
[10:21.000 -> 10:25.960] So I was walking a long way to get there, by the way, terrible. And then I was in the medical center and I wanted to long way to get there by the way terrible and then I was
[10:25.960 -> 10:29.480] in the medical center and I wanted to put it on my phone but they were doing
[10:29.480 -> 10:34.640] all kinds of tests and then I hear the restart right so all the cars and then I
[10:34.640 -> 10:38.160] hear the takeover now I hear people like oh but I didn't know what was going on
[10:38.160 -> 10:41.320] at the time of your car I was I was not there I was in the medical center I had
[10:41.320 -> 10:47.800] no idea no you were very happy when you came back and then I won't wait I hear the guys break it I could hear like and
[10:47.800 -> 10:52.520] then everyone's like yeah like this and I was like and then I think Gemma was
[10:52.520 -> 10:57.960] with me and I heard the phone was like like I don't know hundred messages I
[10:57.960 -> 11:01.880] said what happened what happened and then you were back in the lead but still
[11:01.880 -> 11:05.200] I didn't know about your issues at the time, right? Yeah, it was horrible.
[11:05.200 -> 11:06.200] Crazy.
[11:06.200 -> 11:07.200] It was horrible.
[11:07.200 -> 11:10.200] Yeah, we had the hydraulics issue.
[11:10.200 -> 11:12.200] So you could not hit the tyres?
[11:12.200 -> 11:14.200] I had to go literally straight.
[11:14.200 -> 11:16.200] I started with really cold tyres.
[11:16.200 -> 11:18.200] Yeah, that was crazy.
[11:18.200 -> 11:19.200] That's Baku.
[11:19.200 -> 11:21.200] A lot of crazy things happen.
[11:21.200 -> 11:24.200] We are going back to Canada for the first time since 2019.
[11:24.200 -> 11:28.360] Have you missed Montreal? Yeah, I think it's actually a nice place to be. It's
[11:28.360 -> 11:34.560] one of the good ones. Yeah it's a really beautiful city. The track is unique. I
[11:34.560 -> 11:37.760] think like it's very different. So yeah I did I did miss it actually and I think
[11:37.760 -> 11:42.880] it's a good track to have on the calendar. I'm looking forward to go
[11:42.880 -> 11:46.960] back. Away from the track how do you like to relax between races?
[11:46.960 -> 11:48.760] He's a pro golf player.
[11:48.760 -> 11:51.680] I enjoy a lot of golf, yeah.
[11:51.680 -> 11:52.940] Unfortunately, I don't have,
[11:52.940 -> 11:54.520] I'm not good at it, you know.
[11:54.520 -> 11:56.600] I'm like, if I leave it for too long,
[11:56.600 -> 11:57.440] then I come back.
[11:57.440 -> 11:58.280] You have to catch up again to your...
[11:58.280 -> 12:00.320] Yeah, it's very jealous, the golf.
[12:00.320 -> 12:01.600] You have to be on it,
[12:01.600 -> 12:03.080] few days a week.
[12:03.080 -> 12:04.600] Lando keeps pushing me to go,
[12:04.600 -> 12:05.000] to play golf with him. You gotta go.
[12:05.000 -> 12:06.000] You gotta go soon, man.
[12:06.000 -> 12:10.000] Because now Lando lives in Monaco, so he plays a lot of golf.
[12:10.000 -> 12:14.000] He's really good, actually, for the time that he's been playing.
[12:14.000 -> 12:16.000] Of course, he spends a lot of time in it.
[12:16.000 -> 12:17.000] He's fully addicted, eh?
[12:17.000 -> 12:19.000] Like yesterday, he flew with me here.
[12:19.000 -> 12:25.000] He had his golf clubs with him because afterwards he goes to Montreal and he's going to play.
[12:25.000 -> 12:27.000] There's a whole bag with him.
[12:27.000 -> 12:29.000] He's flying straight to Montreal?
[12:29.000 -> 12:30.000] Yeah.
[12:30.000 -> 12:32.000] In Montreal there are really nice courses.
[12:32.000 -> 12:34.000] You should really get into it, but be patient.
[12:34.000 -> 12:36.000] I made a bet with him.
[12:36.000 -> 12:38.000] I'll tell you after what the bet is.
[12:38.000 -> 12:41.000] So if I lose the bet I have to play golf with him.
[12:41.000 -> 12:45.920] Okay, but I think if you go straight into play into a golf course, you will hate it
[12:45.920 -> 12:48.600] You know you you first have to I try it like twice
[12:48.920 -> 12:55.440] One time like I went to a golf course and I I just practiced like trying to actually like just like sweet like hit it
[12:55.640 -> 12:57.600] just on a
[12:57.600 -> 13:01.480] Hit it try and hit it. Sorry. I just yeah drive it, right? I
[13:02.000 -> 13:03.560] Won't point I was able to hit the ball
[13:03.560 -> 13:07.200] But I mean it took like two two hours to have a bit of a swing.
[13:07.200 -> 13:08.880] But then, if you don't follow up,
[13:08.880 -> 13:10.440] like you start from zero again,
[13:10.440 -> 13:13.320] and so far I didn't have the patience to do so.
[13:13.320 -> 13:14.160] That's the problem with it,
[13:14.160 -> 13:16.760] and then you just have to keep up, understand it.
[13:16.760 -> 13:19.560] It's the best sport in the world.
[13:19.560 -> 13:20.720] I'll give it another go.
[13:20.720 -> 13:23.000] We've had a lot of celebs visit us lately.
[13:23.000 -> 13:25.000] Anyone that you really enjoyed meeting?
[13:25.000 -> 13:29.000] Oh, in Miami, Bad Bunny.
[13:29.000 -> 13:30.000] Bad Bunny.
[13:30.000 -> 13:31.000] Bad Bunny.
[13:31.000 -> 13:33.000] You had a car ride with him?
[13:33.000 -> 13:35.000] Yeah, I had a ride with him.
[13:35.000 -> 13:38.000] He even signed our rear wing, I think.
[13:38.000 -> 13:39.000] He gave you luck.
[13:39.000 -> 13:42.000] Yeah, he gave me the top speed to pass.
[13:42.000 -> 13:48.000] No, he was a really nice guy. I mean, the guy is huge in Latin America, you know?
[13:48.080 -> 13:51.520] And he's like a big star.
[13:51.600 -> 13:52.840] And he's a very normal guy.
[13:52.920 -> 13:55.400] Once you go with him...
[13:55.480 -> 13:58.400] I remember he was with his pink suit.
[13:58.480 -> 13:59.600] Yeah, you had to change.
[13:59.680 -> 14:02.840] I told him, I think you've got the wrong spec of clothes.
[14:02.920 -> 14:04.040] It was so hot.
[14:04.120 -> 14:06.200] He went to change, it was so hot that weekend.
[14:06.200 -> 14:07.200] Crazy.
[14:07.200 -> 14:08.200] Unbelievable.
[14:08.200 -> 14:13.200] Who is going to go further at the World Cup this year, Mexico or the Netherlands?
[14:13.200 -> 14:15.960] Well, depends if they fake a penalty or not, right?
[14:15.960 -> 14:18.080] We're good at faking penalties.
[14:18.080 -> 14:19.880] I'm sorry.
[14:19.880 -> 14:23.720] But Robin is not playing anymore, so we have to find someone else who is very good at it
[14:23.720 -> 14:24.720] to fake it.
[14:24.720 -> 14:25.720] No, I think
[14:26.640 -> 14:30.360] To be honest, I don't know how to how is the Mexican team at the moment, but struggling not good
[14:30.360 -> 14:36.760] Yeah, there's a lot a few days ago. We beat Belgium 4-1. Oh, so that was a good result
[14:37.080 -> 14:40.360] Belgium is a yeah, they're not but they're second in the ranking, you know
[14:40.360 -> 14:46.440] But that doesn't really say anything at the end, but that was a good result for us. But for us it's still a bit like this.
[14:46.440 -> 14:50.760] For us the problem is that we are getting into an end of a generation.
[14:50.760 -> 14:52.600] We don't have the youngsters.
[14:52.600 -> 14:57.920] We had that like four years ago where we finished third in 2014,
[14:57.920 -> 14:59.760] but then they were getting too old.
[14:59.760 -> 15:03.320] That was the best Mexican team for a while.
[15:03.320 -> 15:06.800] Yeah, they should have gone to the semis at least.
[15:06.800 -> 15:08.320] Yeah, yeah.
[15:08.320 -> 15:10.000] It was, yeah, it's good.
[15:10.000 -> 15:11.760] I mean, anyway, in the World Cup,
[15:11.760 -> 15:14.880] like you can have the absolute favorite team and they can fail.
[15:14.880 -> 15:18.240] Are you planning to go to the World Cup after Abu Dhabi?
[15:18.240 -> 15:22.080] Normally not, but let's see how it's going to continue, right?
[15:22.080 -> 15:24.080] If they do really well, maybe, yes.
[15:24.080 -> 15:26.000] So if they do really well, maybe yes. So if they do really well,
[15:26.000 -> 15:28.000] hopefully they get to the final.
[15:28.000 -> 15:30.000] You know the good thing is I can support two.
[15:30.000 -> 15:31.000] Yeah.
[15:31.000 -> 15:33.000] Well, if one fails, I can go to the other.
[15:33.000 -> 15:36.000] Oh, three. Now you can support Mexico as well.
[15:36.000 -> 15:38.000] Let's just hope they don't...
[15:38.000 -> 15:40.000] Four. Brazil.
[15:40.000 -> 15:42.000] We've got a lot of room to choose.
[15:42.000 -> 15:44.000] I think they could be actually quite strong.
[15:44.000 -> 15:45.360] I think they're going to be very strong.
[15:45.360 -> 15:46.960] I really hope, you know.
[15:46.960 -> 15:47.920] It's been a while for them.
[15:47.920 -> 15:48.560] Yeah.
[15:48.560 -> 15:50.480] As you can see, we like football.
[15:50.480 -> 15:52.880] So I think that's also nice, right?
[15:52.880 -> 15:53.360] Yeah.
[15:53.360 -> 15:57.360] Have you ever worn a disguise so nobody recognizes you?
[15:57.360 -> 16:02.000] Like if you weren't, I don't know, a cap, you know, with the glasses.
[16:02.000 -> 16:04.960] Like with COVID, you know, I tried to...
[16:04.960 -> 16:05.080] Put the mask until here. All the way up. But they still COVID, you know, I tried to...
[16:05.080 -> 16:07.600] Put the mask until here.
[16:07.600 -> 16:09.960] But they still do, you know, so...
[16:09.960 -> 16:12.320] The problem is they recognize you because of whatever,
[16:12.320 -> 16:16.000] cap with the sun, like the shape of your face,
[16:16.000 -> 16:16.840] they will recognize.
[16:16.840 -> 16:18.400] I'm amazed with it, you know,
[16:18.400 -> 16:20.560] like sometimes you try to play with the mask
[16:20.560 -> 16:22.000] and you think, okay,
[16:22.000 -> 16:23.680] but no, they probably recognize you even more.
[16:23.680 -> 16:28.480] I never forget one time I was skiing, this was four years ago or something, I had the
[16:28.480 -> 16:33.560] helmet, the big goggles, like you know really big, still recognize me.
[16:33.560 -> 16:34.560] Probably from a big shirt.
[16:34.560 -> 16:38.520] Probably my nose, probably my nose is just sticking out you know like half a meter in
[16:38.520 -> 16:39.520] front of the glass.
[16:39.520 -> 16:40.520] That's enough.
[16:40.520 -> 16:41.520] Yeah, it's crazy.
[16:41.520 -> 16:43.160] It's impressive, people, yeah.
[16:43.160 -> 16:48.000] And I wasn't even in a very famous place you know, like it's still recognized. Yeah, it's crazy. It's impressive, people... And I wasn't even in a very famous place, you know, like, it's still recognized.
[16:48.000 -> 16:49.000] Yeah, sometimes.
[16:49.000 -> 16:52.000] It's pretty impressive, some people, how good they are.
[16:52.000 -> 16:53.000] Yeah.
[16:53.000 -> 16:54.000] Yeah.
[16:54.000 -> 16:56.000] The listeners will like a cat update, Max.
[16:56.000 -> 16:57.000] A cat update.
[16:57.000 -> 17:02.000] Have Toto and Lewis been behaving?
[17:02.000 -> 17:03.000] In general, they have been.
[17:03.000 -> 17:05.000] They have been a bit moany
[17:05.000 -> 17:07.000] they moan quite a bit
[17:07.000 -> 17:09.000] yeah, the cats are very moany
[17:09.000 -> 17:11.000] Hold on, you have Toto and Louis?
[17:11.000 -> 17:13.000] Well, I don't know
[17:13.000 -> 17:15.000] I joked that they were called Toto and Louis
[17:15.000 -> 17:17.000] Ah, ok, ok
[17:17.000 -> 17:19.000] They're actually called better
[17:19.000 -> 17:21.000] because Jimmy is from
[17:21.000 -> 17:23.000] Jimmy is in Monaco
[17:23.000 -> 17:27.120] then that's the male, then the female is called Sassy from Sass in Monaco.
[17:27.120 -> 17:29.120] So that's why I called her like that,
[17:29.120 -> 17:30.680] I thought it was quite funny.
[17:30.680 -> 17:31.880] But yeah, they've been good.
[17:31.880 -> 17:33.120] All the time when I come back home,
[17:33.120 -> 17:36.120] like the male, he keeps moaning for like 10 minutes
[17:36.120 -> 17:38.680] because he's probably upset that I left
[17:38.680 -> 17:40.120] and then I come back.
[17:40.120 -> 17:42.720] Yeah, okay, Checo, we now have some questions
[17:42.720 -> 17:45.360] fans have sent to us via the paddock, right?
[17:46.000 -> 17:51.360] First, Andy asks, would you ever compete in a public karting competition for fun?
[17:51.600 -> 17:57.520] Yes, yeah I certainly will and I've done it before. I went to Vegas a couple of years ago
[17:58.960 -> 18:03.760] but I didn't manage, like I did because they start from Wednesday, I did it in 2016.
[18:04.160 -> 18:04.660] Okay.
[18:04.800 -> 18:05.080] They invited me so I went. What I did it in 2016. Okay.
[18:05.080 -> 18:06.760] They invited me, so I went.
[18:06.760 -> 18:07.600] What category?
[18:07.600 -> 18:08.600] The level is really in K-set.
[18:08.600 -> 18:09.420] Okay.
[18:09.420 -> 18:10.920] So I went there from Wednesday, Thursday.
[18:10.920 -> 18:12.400] Which Koka did you drive?
[18:12.400 -> 18:13.720] A GP.
[18:13.720 -> 18:14.560] Okay.
[18:14.560 -> 18:16.600] Wednesday, Thursday, but then by Friday
[18:16.600 -> 18:18.360] I was done with my rips, you know?
[18:18.360 -> 18:21.280] And you're not used to it, and then the street circuit,
[18:21.280 -> 18:22.280] like it's quite bumpy.
[18:22.280 -> 18:23.400] Because they've changed the circuit,
[18:23.400 -> 18:26.200] it's not the, it's really fast, it has a really fast corner
[18:26.200 -> 18:27.200] and it's really bumpy.
[18:27.200 -> 18:28.040] So you're like.
[18:28.040 -> 18:30.280] So I struggled with it and in the end.
[18:30.280 -> 18:31.120] Couldn't drive.
[18:31.120 -> 18:31.960] Couldn't drive.
[18:31.960 -> 18:32.920] So what a shame.
[18:32.920 -> 18:34.720] What a shame, you can't drive in Vegas.
[18:34.720 -> 18:36.000] What did you do?
[18:36.000 -> 18:36.840] Yeah, I went.
[18:36.840 -> 18:37.960] Sightseeing.
[18:37.960 -> 18:39.640] I had to go to the hotel, you know,
[18:39.640 -> 18:42.520] there's so many clubs, had to go to one of them.
[18:42.520 -> 18:45.920] Yeah, I did it in 2013 when I was still go-karting.
[18:45.920 -> 18:47.720] That was a really cool experience.
[18:47.720 -> 18:48.560] That was cool.
[18:48.560 -> 18:51.720] Yeah, that was also like one of my first races in KZ,
[18:51.720 -> 18:53.960] racing against like all the pros.
[18:53.960 -> 18:56.880] So that was, it was a bit painful because I mean,
[18:56.880 -> 18:58.920] you spend all the money to go there, right?
[18:58.920 -> 19:01.000] Hoping to win the $10,000.
[19:01.000 -> 19:03.480] I qualified pole, I won the two heats,
[19:03.480 -> 19:06.600] I was leading the final and I was like pulling away
[19:06.600 -> 19:08.000] and then my spark plug broke.
[19:08.000 -> 19:10.520] So, that was a thing around.
[19:10.520 -> 19:11.520] Yeah, yeah.
[19:11.520 -> 19:16.360] And it was a shame because like we did it as a whole like my dad, my best friend with
[19:16.360 -> 19:21.600] his dad, we had the go-kart team together but we were there under the American dealer.
[19:21.600 -> 19:26.600] It was still a really cool experience because it's so busy with so many categories, right?
[19:26.600 -> 19:31.400] Like you either drive in the morning or you drive in the afternoon because there are so many different categories.
[19:31.400 -> 19:33.600] When are you next doing a special helmet design?
[19:33.600 -> 19:38.800] Very soon. I cannot say where yet, but it's going to be very soon again.
[19:38.800 -> 19:40.200] Still a few more coming.
[19:40.200 -> 19:43.800] Yeah, I can imagine. I've seen some of those, really cool.
[19:43.800 -> 19:49.000] Yeah, I mean, you always try to change it a little bit every single year, right?
[19:49.000 -> 19:52.000] So yeah, very soon I'll have another one.
[19:52.000 -> 19:55.000] This one is from Evan. What is your favorite kind of dog?
[19:55.000 -> 19:57.000] My favorite kind of dog?
[19:57.000 -> 19:58.000] You like dogs, first of all?
[19:58.000 -> 20:01.000] I have. I got three dogs.
[20:01.000 -> 20:03.000] Golden, Golden Retriever.
[20:03.000 -> 20:04.000] They're very nice, yeah.
[20:04.000 -> 20:06.600] They're huge. I was born
[20:06.600 -> 20:11.760] with dogs, you know, so yeah, I love them. So I got two of those and then I got a
[20:11.760 -> 20:19.240] huge one. It's a Golden Poodle, you know. It's a huge, huge one. I wouldn't see you
[20:19.240 -> 20:25.200] as a guy with a poodle. No, but the big one. Not the little one. No, I know, but...
[20:25.200 -> 20:26.200] Yeah, I know the big ones,
[20:26.200 -> 20:28.680] but it's still like poodle, like...
[20:28.680 -> 20:31.320] Yeah, no, I think it's a different one, but yeah.
[20:31.320 -> 20:32.640] But it looks like a poodle.
[20:32.640 -> 20:33.560] Kind of.
[20:33.560 -> 20:34.400] It's just a big one.
[20:34.400 -> 20:35.240] Yeah.
[20:35.240 -> 20:36.080] Huge one.
[20:36.080 -> 20:37.520] It's like a horse.
[20:38.560 -> 20:39.640] Philip asks,
[20:39.640 -> 20:41.000] what's more important for you,
[20:41.000 -> 20:42.240] speed or reliability?
[20:42.240 -> 20:44.080] Well, at the end of the day, you can have speed,
[20:44.080 -> 20:46.440] but if you don't finish the race, it doesn't matter, right? So at the end of the day you can have speed but if you don't finish the race it doesn't matter right so at the end
[20:46.440 -> 20:51.640] of the day yeah well yeah you need speed to win you need reliability to finish so
[20:51.640 -> 20:57.280] and even today both of them are very important. I agree. From Tobias have you
[20:57.280 -> 21:03.080] named any of your race cars like Sepp used to do you know? Yeah Sepp named all of them
[21:03.080 -> 21:06.000] no never I've never put names. Have you?
[21:06.000 -> 21:10.000] No. Well, first of all, my cars are male, not female.
[21:10.000 -> 21:11.000] Always male.
[21:11.000 -> 21:17.000] Yeah, but I approach it as it is a male, but I don't give it a name. I don't see the point of it.
[21:17.000 -> 21:21.000] So, Santino asks, what's more important, practice or natural talent?
[21:21.000 -> 21:29.440] I mean, you can rely on natural talent for a while, but at at the end of the day it's also about practice and hard work like
[21:29.440 -> 21:34.880] next to it so at the end of the day you need a bit of both to really get far
[21:34.880 -> 21:40.880] there are a lot of naturally talented people in any sport but you cannot just
[21:40.880 -> 21:47.000] rely on on your talent it's impossible it's impossible to rely on your talent. I agree.
[21:47.000 -> 21:51.360] Checo, if you could choose a city that has never held an Avon race before, where would you choose?
[21:51.360 -> 21:56.000] Guadalajara. My city. I'd love to race there.
[21:56.000 -> 21:58.680] John wants to know what's your favourite pit lane entry?
[21:58.680 -> 22:00.280] My favourite pit lane entry?
[22:00.280 -> 22:02.920] This one here is pretty great, but they've changed it.
[22:02.920 -> 22:04.320] Yeah, I haven't seen it yet.
[22:04.320 -> 22:06.000] São Paulo is cool. Yeah, I haven't seen it yet. Sao Paulo is cool.
[22:06.000 -> 22:08.000] Yeah, there are a few good ones.
[22:09.000 -> 22:10.000] Which other is cool?
[22:10.000 -> 22:12.000] I like Hungary, the corner.
[22:12.000 -> 22:13.000] Do you?
[22:13.000 -> 22:14.000] Yeah, I just...
[22:14.000 -> 22:15.000] I hate that one.
[22:15.000 -> 22:16.000] Really?
[22:16.000 -> 22:18.000] Yeah, especially when you pit and you have no tires.
[22:18.000 -> 22:19.000] But at least you can...
[22:19.000 -> 22:20.000] You can do it.
[22:20.000 -> 22:21.000] Like, you can just...
[22:21.000 -> 22:22.000] Yeah.
[22:22.000 -> 22:23.000] I have to think about the tracks now, like...
[22:23.000 -> 22:25.640] Miami, you loved it.
[22:25.640 -> 22:26.880] Miami was amazing.
[22:26.880 -> 22:27.880] So much grip.
[22:27.880 -> 22:28.880] So much grip, yeah.
[22:28.880 -> 22:29.960] I'll pick Sao Paulo.
[22:29.960 -> 22:34.120] For me, it's Sao Paulo because it's piddling that, especially the first time you do it,
[22:34.120 -> 22:35.120] you're really feeling the...
[22:35.120 -> 22:36.120] It's quick, huh?
[22:36.120 -> 22:37.120] Yeah.
[22:37.120 -> 22:40.480] Yeah, especially now with that little chicane, you have to brake in that little chicane.
[22:40.480 -> 22:41.480] Into the cornering.
[22:41.480 -> 22:42.480] Yeah.
[22:42.480 -> 22:43.480] That one is good fun.
[22:43.480 -> 22:47.840] I quite like Montreal because you just keep going straight.
[22:47.840 -> 22:52.280] The braking is not the easiest to judge.
[22:52.280 -> 22:55.080] Especially if you have a car ahead of you.
[22:55.080 -> 22:56.080] Then it's tricky.
[22:56.080 -> 22:57.720] Or if you're fighting, it can be very tricky.
[22:57.720 -> 23:00.560] I think there are a few good ones in general.
[23:00.560 -> 23:01.560] That's it.
[23:01.560 -> 23:02.560] I don't have more questions for you.
[23:02.560 -> 23:03.800] You can go relax a bit.
[23:03.800 -> 23:06.400] I think we are relieved of our duties.
[23:07.040 -> 23:09.040] We wish. Yeah, we wish.
[23:09.280 -> 23:13.280] Well done boys. Such a great double act. Best of luck for the next couple of races.
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