When will anyone catch up with Red Bull? | Nico Rosberg: Max Verstappen is extraordinary!

Matt Baker is joined this week by 2016 F1 World Champion Nico Rosberg and Broadcaster Liam MacDevitt to speak about (03:39) Red Bull’s ‘legendary’ record-breaking season so far, (10:28) and how Sergio Perez can deal with an 'unbeatable teammate'.

The panel also debate if (23:20) McLaren could finish second in the Constructor’s Championship, (24:40) Mercedes’ confidence boost after Lewis Hamilton qualified for pole at the Hungarian GP, and (34:14) review Daniel Riccardo’s return to the grid after his first race back with AlphaTauri.

Finally, (43:38) Nico Rosberg addresses his ‘curse’ and explains why he won't be posting any more photos from the pit lane in future races!

## Podcast Episode Summary: Formula One Insight and Analysis

**Episode Overview:**

- This week's episode of the Sky Sports F1 podcast features host Matt Baker, 2016 F1 World Champion Nico Rosberg, and broadcaster Liam McDevitt.

- The panel discusses Red Bull's record-breaking season, Sergio Perez's struggles as Max Verstappen's teammate, McLaren's resurgence, Mercedes' mixed fortunes, and Daniel Ricciardo's return to the grid.

**Key Points:**

- Red Bull's dominance continues with 12 consecutive race wins, breaking McLaren's historic record.

- Max Verstappen's driving is described as "legendary" and compared to the greats like Senna, Schumacher, and Hamilton.

- Sergio Perez faces challenges as Verstappen's teammate, with a significant gap in qualifying and race results.

- McLaren's turnaround is impressive, with Lando Norris and Oscar Piastri delivering strong performances.

- Mercedes shows signs of improvement with Lewis Hamilton's pole position in Hungary, but the team's overall pace remains behind Red Bull.

- Daniel Ricciardo's return to AlphaTauri is analyzed, with discussions about his adaptation to the car and his overall performance.

**Insights from Nico Rosberg:**

- Rosberg reflects on his own experience of winning seven consecutive races, acknowledging the difficulty and expressing respect for Verstappen's achievements.

- He highlights the importance of staying focused and avoiding complacency, especially when dominating a season.

- Rosberg compares Verstappen and Red Bull's partnership to legendary pairings like Schumacher and Ferrari, suggesting it could become one of the most iconic in F1 history.

**Analysis of Sergio Perez's Situation:**

- Rosberg emphasizes the mental toll of being Verstappen's teammate, with the constant pressure and media scrutiny.

- He suggests that Perez needs to switch off from social media and external distractions to focus on his own performance.

- Rosberg advises Perez to take a race-by-race approach, rebuilding his confidence and momentum without worrying about the championship battle.

**McLaren's Resurgence and Potential:**

- McLaren's significant improvement is attributed to technical developments, particularly in aerodynamics.

- Rosberg praises Lando Norris as a world-class driver and highlights the team's potential to challenge for race wins.

- Oscar Piastri's solid performances are acknowledged, with discussions about his tyre management and race pace.

**Mercedes' Mixed Fortunes and Future Prospects:**

- Mercedes' qualifying performance in Hungary is seen as a positive sign, but the team's overall pace is still lacking compared to Red Bull.

- Rosberg suggests that Mercedes may struggle to catch up to Red Bull this season, given the significant gap in points.

- The panel discusses the possibility of McLaren finishing second in the Constructors' Championship, but acknowledges that it would be challenging.

**Daniel Ricciardo's Return to Formula One:**

- Ricciardo's adaptation to the AlphaTauri car is analyzed, with observations about his driving style and comfort level.

- His performance in Hungary is evaluated, noting his struggles in qualifying but a solid recovery in the race.

- The panel discusses Ricciardo's future prospects and whether he can regain his previous form.

**Overall Message:**

The podcast provides expert analysis and insights into the current state of Formula One, focusing on Red Bull's dominance, McLaren's resurgence, Mercedes' challenges, and Daniel Ricciardo's return. The discussions offer valuable perspectives from Nico Rosberg and Liam McDevitt, enhancing the understanding of key storylines and developments in the sport.

# Formula One Hungarian Grand Prix: Red Bull's Legendary Season, McLaren's Potential, Mercedes' Revival, and Daniel Ricciardo's Return

## Key Points and Main Arguments

- Red Bull's dominance continued with another legendary win in Hungary, extending their record-breaking streak.

- Sergio Perez faced challenges as a teammate to the unbeatable Max Verstappen, highlighting the difficulty of competing against an exceptional driver.

- McLaren's impressive performance raised questions about their potential to finish second in the Constructor's Championship.

- Lewis Hamilton's pole position in Hungary provided a much-needed confidence boost for Mercedes, sparking hope for a resurgence in their performance.

- Daniel Ricciardo's return to Formula One with AlphaTauri was met with enthusiasm, and his strong qualifying pace indicated his potential for a successful comeback.

- Nico Rosberg addressed his perceived "curse" of jinxing teams and drivers with his social media posts, announcing that he would refrain from posting pit lane photos in the future.

## Detailed Summary

### Red Bull's Dominance and Sergio Perez's Struggles

Red Bull's remarkable season continued in Hungary, with Max Verstappen securing another dominant victory, further extending their lead in the Constructor's Championship. The team's success was attributed to their exceptional car performance and Verstappen's unmatched driving skills. However, Sergio Perez, Verstappen's teammate, faced difficulties in keeping up with the Dutchman's pace, highlighting the challenge of competing against such an extraordinary driver.

### McLaren's Rise and Mercedes' Revival

McLaren's impressive performance in Hungary raised questions about their potential to finish second in the Constructor's Championship. The team's strong showing throughout the season, including Lando Norris's podium finish in Hungary, suggested that they could challenge Ferrari for the runner-up position. Meanwhile, Mercedes' resurgence was evident with Lewis Hamilton securing pole position in Hungary, providing a confidence boost for the team and sparking hope for a turnaround in their fortunes.

### Daniel Ricciardo's Return and Nico Rosberg's "Curse"

Daniel Ricciardo's return to Formula One with AlphaTauri was met with excitement and anticipation. Despite not having tested the car prior to the race, Ricciardo displayed impressive qualifying pace, indicating his potential for a successful comeback. The focus now shifted to his ability to adapt to the car and deliver strong race performances. Nico Rosberg, a former Formula One world champion, addressed his perceived "curse" of jinxing teams and drivers with his social media posts. After several instances where teams or drivers performed poorly after he posted photos of them, Rosberg announced that he would refrain from posting pit lane photos in the future.

### Overall Message

The Hungarian Grand Prix showcased the continued dominance of Red Bull, the potential rise of McLaren, and the resurgence of Mercedes. Daniel Ricciardo's return to Formula One added excitement to the grid, while Nico Rosberg's "curse" provided a humorous twist to the weekend's events. As the Formula One season heads into the summer break, fans eagerly await the Belgian Grand Prix, the final race before the break, for more thrilling action and unexpected twists.

[00:00.000 -> 00:08.560] Hello everyone, welcome to this week's episode of the Sky Sports F1 podcast with me Matt
[00:08.560 -> 00:13.600] Baker. Joining me for this one is the 2016 Formula One World Champion Nico Rosberg and
[00:13.600 -> 00:18.720] broadcaster Liam McDevitt. Hello to you both. Nico, I'll start with you. How are you? How's
[00:18.720 -> 00:20.000] your weekend in Hungary?
[00:20.000 -> 00:25.440] Hi everybody, yeah, so it's great to be on your podcast show here.
[00:25.440 -> 00:30.560] I had a lovely weekend in Hungary, I think it's a great track, it's a great city, so
[00:30.560 -> 00:34.120] it was nice to be there, nice to be part of the Sky Sports F1 team.
[00:34.120 -> 00:38.880] And it's always good to catch up with all old teammates and friends and things like
[00:38.880 -> 00:43.960] that, so I said hi to everybody at the Mercedes team, my mechanics and journalists.
[00:43.960 -> 00:49.000] It's hard to move you through the paddock, Nico. you're a very popular man when you go to Formula 1 races.
[00:49.000 -> 00:54.000] Yeah, even though I mean it's now seven years since I stopped, it's incredible, it's such a long time ago already,
[00:54.000 -> 00:56.000] it's unbelievable, I mean it feels like yesterday.
[00:56.000 -> 01:01.000] So, no, but it's still nice that of course people still appreciate me being there.
[01:01.000 -> 01:09.000] It does help that I was a world champion, I guess. I think so, I think so. Liam, first time on the podcast, so I'm going to give you the
[01:09.000 -> 01:14.440] honour of giving us your one word race review for the Hungarian Grand Prix.
[01:14.440 -> 01:19.840] Yeah, no, thanks for having me on and pleasure to meet you, Nico, but the word I've gone
[01:19.840 -> 01:25.760] with I think is defining and it's because Red Bull answered every question they needed to answer,
[01:25.760 -> 01:30.960] didn't sit in pole position in qualifying. Even I got bought into the dream of a slightly more
[01:30.960 -> 01:36.560] competitive race but Max and Red Bull came up trumps again so I've gone with defining for the
[01:36.560 -> 01:41.120] race this weekend. Nico I don't know if you were briefed before to have a one-word race review so
[01:41.120 -> 01:52.720] I might be putting you on the spot here but if you were to define that race in one word what would it be? What would I say? Astonishing or legendary. Let's go with legendary
[01:52.720 -> 01:58.960] because the Red Bull team broke a legendary historic record of 11 successive race wins by
[01:58.960 -> 02:05.520] McLaren. They've now got 12 so So that's an incredible milestone.
[02:05.520 -> 02:09.680] And Verstappen himself is driving in such a legendary way.
[02:09.680 -> 02:14.560] I mean, he is driving like one of the best five or six of all time, you know, in line
[02:14.560 -> 02:19.020] with Senna, Schumacher, Hamilton, and two other names.
[02:19.020 -> 02:22.080] So Fan Zhou, and then you start to struggle already.
[02:22.080 -> 02:24.880] So it's like, it's really legendary.
[02:24.880 -> 02:25.000] Couldn't agree more. and then you start to struggle already. So it's like, it's, it's really legendary.
[02:25.000 -> 02:26.000] Couldn't agree more.
[02:26.000 -> 02:29.000] I've gone for cruising and that's because of just,
[02:29.000 -> 02:31.000] I felt like Max was just cruising all of Sunday.
[02:31.000 -> 02:33.000] Bit like you said, Nico, you know,
[02:33.000 -> 02:35.000] he never, he never looked in doubt.
[02:35.000 -> 02:38.000] Matt, that's not a cool, that's not a cool one word, Matt.
[02:38.000 -> 02:39.000] We give you a second chance.
[02:39.000 -> 02:40.000] I mean, that really sucks.
[02:40.000 -> 02:42.000] Yeah, you can do better than that, for sure.
[02:42.000 -> 02:43.000] You can do much better than that.
[02:43.000 -> 02:46.500] All right, legendary, astonishing, perfect.
[02:46.500 -> 02:48.000] Should we call it perfect?
[02:48.000 -> 02:51.000] It wasn't a perfect weekend, but it was a perfect race for Max Verstappen.
[02:51.000 -> 02:52.000] I think, yeah.
[02:52.000 -> 02:55.000] And what I was going to say, the reason why I was kind of going to go down cruisy,
[02:55.000 -> 03:01.000] but I'll change it to perfect, is finishing 33 seconds ahead of Lando Norris in second.
[03:01.000 -> 03:03.500] And, you know, no one seemed to lay a glove on him, basically.
[03:03.500 -> 03:05.480] As soon as he overtook in that first corner
[03:05.480 -> 03:08.560] He was straight into the lead and it never looked in any doubt. So yeah, all right
[03:08.560 -> 03:13.160] I'm at you you think you think the race weekend was perfect or you think it was perfect for Max?
[03:14.280 -> 03:19.080] Yeah, I don't know if that's the word you really want to go with but yeah Max, it was perfect.
[03:19.080 -> 03:23.360] It really was. Right, here's what's coming up then on the podcast today. We're gonna ask the question
[03:23.360 -> 03:27.360] Can anyone catch Max Verstappen and Red Bull and when will that happen?
[03:27.520 -> 03:32.780] We're gonna talk about the Red Bull records that you alluded to earlier McLaren's turnaround
[03:33.280 -> 03:39.280] Mercedes getting a bit closer maybe on Saturday, maybe not on Sunday and Riccardo's weekend as well
[03:39.280 -> 03:44.680] But let's go through some of the records that Red Bull have broken this this this weekend
[03:44.680 -> 03:48.200] So we've already talked about that 12th consecutive win.
[03:48.200 -> 03:52.160] Red Bull have now won 21 out of the last 22 Grand Prix.
[03:52.160 -> 03:57.760] Verstappen becomes the fifth driver in history to win seven consecutive races and they are
[03:57.760 -> 04:04.160] Alberto Ascari, Michael Schumacher, Sebastian Vettel and a certain person called Nico Rosberg.
[04:04.160 -> 04:06.080] So Nico, I want to start by
[04:06.080 -> 04:11.640] asking you about your seven wins in a row and tell us how hard it is and therefore how
[04:11.640 -> 04:15.160] much respect do you have for what Max Verstappen is doing at the moment?
[04:15.160 -> 04:22.000] Yeah, I mean what an honour to be like in that sentence as part of that. Seven in a
[04:22.000 -> 04:27.680] row, yeah that was quite cool. I would have had eight if Lewis wouldn't have shunted me off in Barcelona,
[04:27.680 -> 04:31.760] for those of you who remember that race in 2016.
[04:31.760 -> 04:34.480] I'm laughing, by the way, for those of you who can't see me now,
[04:34.480 -> 04:38.000] because that was a joke.
[04:38.000 -> 04:43.520] Anyways, no, and yeah, I mean, it's incredible, really,
[04:43.520 -> 04:45.420] such a performance from Max
[04:45.420 -> 04:47.120] And I said it in the after race
[04:47.120 -> 04:53.400] interview with him that I am I'm one of the people that can best judge his performance at the moment and the level that
[04:53.400 -> 04:58.260] He's driving at and yes, it doesn't exactly make for the most exciting races at the very front
[04:59.160 -> 05:06.220] But I mean it's so deserving because it's incredible the level that he's at, so close to perfection all the time.
[05:06.220 -> 05:08.280] And I mean, you got to compare it to the teammate.
[05:08.280 -> 05:09.820] Look where Sergio Perez is.
[05:09.820 -> 05:13.100] I mean, his best qualifying result in the last six Grand Prix
[05:13.100 -> 05:14.520] was ninth on the grid.
[05:14.520 -> 05:15.960] Can you believe with the same car?
[05:15.960 -> 05:18.000] And Sergio is a really good driver.
[05:18.000 -> 05:18.840] Yeah, we know that.
[05:18.840 -> 05:21.840] I mean, he's not a, he knows how to drive a racing car.
[05:21.840 -> 05:24.040] So Max is just extraordinary.
[05:24.040 -> 05:26.880] Niko, I always, as a fan, I watch those races
[05:26.880 -> 05:28.120] and watch Max every week.
[05:28.120 -> 05:31.360] And I think, how do you stay concentrated to the,
[05:31.360 -> 05:33.720] obviously you're going around corners at ridiculous speeds
[05:33.720 -> 05:35.200] and everything's on a knife edge,
[05:35.200 -> 05:37.740] but do you ever just sit when you're leading races
[05:37.740 -> 05:39.160] as often as that?
[05:39.160 -> 05:41.680] And are there ever moments where you really, really need
[05:41.680 -> 05:44.200] to stay concentrated and remember where you are
[05:44.200 -> 05:46.680] and the fact you are in a Formula One car leading the race?
[05:46.680 -> 05:51.280] Yeah of course I mean it's more a general thing that he generally needs to
[05:51.280 -> 05:55.680] be careful that he doesn't get complacent because when things start to
[05:55.680 -> 05:59.760] I mean he's in such an incredible flow where no one can touch him and that's
[05:59.760 -> 06:02.680] usually when there's a risk of getting complacent and you lose a bit of
[06:02.680 -> 06:05.880] motivation so he just needs to be a bit careful of that.
[06:05.880 -> 06:10.400] But I don't see that happening because the state of mind is phenomenal that he has and
[06:10.400 -> 06:16.120] just he's so focused and so in the zone all the time.
[06:16.120 -> 06:17.920] It's like it's like art.
[06:17.920 -> 06:18.920] It's amazing.
[06:18.920 -> 06:23.320] Nico, when if you if we look at some of the great partnerships in Formula One, I'm thinking
[06:23.320 -> 06:29.200] Schumacher and Ferrari, for example, is is Verstappen and Red Bull, that is going to become legendary, isn't it? I mean,
[06:29.200 -> 06:33.440] it already has, but where do you see that sitting in the history of Formula 1?
[06:33.440 -> 06:37.760] Thank you, Matt, for appreciating my one word to describe the race weekend. That's very cool.
[06:37.760 -> 06:48.000] I like how you picked that up. So yeah, it is, no, it's a historic pairing. I mean, it's gonna be one of those epic ones, yeah.
[06:48.000 -> 06:51.640] We have Senna with McLaren, we have Hamilton with Mercedes,
[06:51.640 -> 06:54.160] and we have Verstappen with Red Bull
[06:54.160 -> 06:56.080] and Schumacher with Ferrari.
[06:56.080 -> 06:57.680] And then that's kind of it, no.
[06:57.680 -> 07:01.080] I mean, you'd have some after that, but it's less clear
[07:01.080 -> 07:02.040] because it's a bit more mixed.
[07:02.040 -> 07:05.520] So that's kind of it you would say I suppose.
[07:05.520 -> 07:11.920] Yeah and no I mean it's gonna be one of those I guess top four that I just mentioned.
[07:11.920 -> 07:16.720] Liam, if Red Bull because I think when we asked this question at the start of the season
[07:16.720 -> 07:20.720] can Red Bull win every race we thought haha that's a great question to ask Christian Horner
[07:20.720 -> 07:23.280] after the race I mean that won't happen that can't happen.
[07:23.280 -> 07:25.480] Now it is looking very possible
[07:25.480 -> 07:27.360] that Red Bull could win every single race
[07:27.360 -> 07:29.560] at this Formula One season.
[07:29.560 -> 07:31.240] If you look at sport more widely,
[07:31.240 -> 07:33.280] and I'm thinking there's plenty of other examples
[07:33.280 -> 07:34.400] of domination in sport,
[07:34.400 -> 07:36.720] where do you think Red Bull winning every race
[07:36.720 -> 07:39.040] would sit amongst the great sport achievements?
[07:40.360 -> 07:41.840] I think it would be up there for me.
[07:41.840 -> 07:43.680] I had the privilege of sitting down
[07:43.680 -> 07:44.980] with Thierry Henry recently,
[07:44.980 -> 07:45.880] and he spoke about that
[07:46.240 -> 07:52.840] Invincible season that Arsenal had and the writing on the wall for that season was there the season before and I feel like it's the same
[07:52.960 -> 07:55.380] With Red Bull you're going into race weekends now
[07:55.380 -> 08:00.520] And it's almost who can finish second because you know Max as long as he keeps the car on the track is
[08:00.720 -> 08:09.220] Probably going to win and I think it would be up there with the great sporting achievements like the Invincibles and it would certainly for me anyway be on a par with that
[08:09.220 -> 08:13.320] to go through a whole season with Red Bull winning every race would just be incredible,
[08:13.320 -> 08:16.160] it would be legendary Nico I think.
[08:16.160 -> 08:20.360] Here we go again, yes we're doubling up on this but it's even more impressive considering
[08:20.360 -> 08:23.940] that there's only one driver who can win races at the moment, I mean that makes it even more
[08:23.940 -> 08:25.040] crazy the whole thing.
[08:25.040 -> 08:28.400] Nico, when you were racing, were you bothered by records?
[08:28.400 -> 08:31.520] Will Max be thinking of the next record to come?
[08:31.520 -> 08:34.320] And will the whole team be thinking of those records?
[08:35.600 -> 08:39.920] It really depends from driver to driver, but I think probably in the end of the day,
[08:39.920 -> 08:44.000] all of us are keen on records because it's like part of our legacy.
[08:44.000 -> 08:47.240] So to this day, I'm proud of this seven race wins
[08:47.240 -> 08:51.260] that I had in a row and being in one sentence there
[08:51.260 -> 08:54.200] with Max just now, you know, I'm proud of that.
[08:54.200 -> 08:57.340] I'm proud of being a one-time world champion and everything.
[08:57.340 -> 08:58.440] Look at Michael Schumacher.
[08:58.440 -> 09:01.920] Remember when he beat, equalized Ayat and Senna's race wins
[09:01.920 -> 09:02.800] in Monza?
[09:02.800 -> 09:05.520] I think he got 41 or 42 race wins and it was equaling Ayat and Senna's race wins in Monza. I think he got 41 or 42 race wins
[09:05.520 -> 09:07.040] and it was equaling Ayat and Senna
[09:07.040 -> 09:08.400] and he broke out in tears.
[09:09.340 -> 09:12.120] So it does mean something to everybody
[09:12.120 -> 09:13.640] and I'm sure it means something even to Max.
[09:13.640 -> 09:17.600] And he's there, I mean, he's on it to break many of them.
[09:17.600 -> 09:19.240] I feel like it's a way of quantifying
[09:19.240 -> 09:20.320] what you're achieving, isn't it?
[09:20.320 -> 09:23.200] If you look at people you either aspire to be like
[09:23.200 -> 09:24.680] or people you compete against,
[09:24.680 -> 09:27.360] if your records are better than theirs it's a way of
[09:27.360 -> 09:30.740] quantifying what you've just achieved and I think he'll definitely be looking
[09:30.740 -> 09:34.980] at those those records and Red Bull will be wanting to do it. I think if
[09:34.980 -> 09:39.280] they can keep a car on track the whole season I can't see anyone beating Max at all.
[09:39.280 -> 09:43.480] I've got a tweet here from Dan, this is sort of directed to you Nico,
[09:43.480 -> 09:50.960] what's the difference between Mercedes dominating era compared to Red Bull's domination now? And do you think it's now much
[09:50.960 -> 09:55.760] more predictable that Red Bull would win compared maybe with when Mercedes were dominating?
[09:55.760 -> 10:02.480] I don't really know what the difference was because we were just as dominant as Red Bull is now.
[10:02.480 -> 10:10.520] I mean, we're getting all the pole positions, all all the race wins it was just when we were messing up and having some some crashes between the two of us or or
[10:11.320 -> 10:15.840] Reliability concerns because it was the first it was the beginning of the hybrid era
[10:15.840 -> 10:20.580] So at the time there was more reliability concerns in the cars and in the in the power power trains
[10:21.200 -> 10:25.480] I think probably that's the only difference really, just more reliability
[10:25.480 -> 10:38.160] struggle at the time, if not it's very similar.
[10:38.160 -> 10:45.040] Another question, and this is on the Sergio Perez question really because, you know, it was a, what started as a very
[10:45.040 -> 10:50.320] difficult weekend for Sergio, he started P9, or sorry, he had the crash in FP1 first of
[10:50.320 -> 10:55.480] all which was obviously not the start he wanted to the weekend, but he went from P9 in the
[10:55.480 -> 11:01.200] race to finish on the podium in third. Cameron on Twitter would like to know, what lessons
[11:01.200 -> 11:08.700] could Checo learn from your approach in 2016 when it comes to beating an unbeatable inverted commas teammate? What would you
[11:08.700 -> 11:13.040] if you were Sergio Perez's coach or manager be saying to him now about
[11:13.040 -> 11:18.060] dealing with dealing with Max Verstappen? Well I mean first of all I would
[11:18.060 -> 11:22.700] recommend to Sergio to really switch off all the media and everything not look at
[11:22.700 -> 11:28.480] social media because he's gonna be because he's gonna be seeing so many memes going against him,
[11:28.600 -> 11:32.900] comments going against him, journalists giving questions
[11:32.900 -> 11:34.160] that are going against him, you know,
[11:34.160 -> 11:36.520] so you really need to separate yourself from that.
[11:36.520 -> 11:39.720] So what I switched off my entire social media email
[11:39.720 -> 11:42.240] news world and completely for the last six years
[11:42.240 -> 11:43.880] when I was fighting for the championship.
[11:43.880 -> 11:46.480] The only problem is that he still has to go to the racetrack and on
[11:46.480 -> 11:50.240] a Thursday he has to sit in front of 50 journalists and they're gonna ask him
[11:50.240 -> 11:54.120] hey Sergio you're looking like you're having the biggest struggle in your
[11:54.120 -> 11:56.760] career do you think you're ever gonna get out of this again you know this is
[11:56.760 -> 12:00.280] the journalist asking and that it always hits you it always hits you because you
[12:00.280 -> 12:05.840] have to listen you can't ignore you have to answer the questions. And the next question is gonna be,
[12:05.840 -> 12:09.520] hey Sergio, do you feel a threat from Daniel Ricciardo?
[12:09.520 -> 12:11.240] Do you feel that you might lose your seat?
[12:11.240 -> 12:13.120] You know, that's the next question from the journalist.
[12:13.120 -> 12:14.600] And it just goes on and on like that.
[12:14.600 -> 12:17.380] And it's so hard because it just keeps on hitting you
[12:17.380 -> 12:18.840] in your head.
[12:18.840 -> 12:21.540] And that's like one of the hardest parts of the weekend
[12:21.540 -> 12:24.040] for Sergio at the moment to deal with.
[12:24.040 -> 12:26.400] And so really it's about switching off, focusing.
[12:26.400 -> 12:30.100] Also, in his state of mind, he was very focused on,
[12:30.100 -> 12:32.900] hey, I want to beat Max, I want to beat Max, I want to be champion.
[12:32.900 -> 12:35.200] You know, he's always saying I want to be champion in the winter.
[12:35.200 -> 12:38.800] And it's time to, I mean, he's doing it anyways, but just forget about that
[12:38.800 -> 12:43.900] and just race weekend by race weekend, come to the race and session by session,
[12:43.900 -> 12:46.240] do a fantastic job. Prepare for it
[12:46.240 -> 12:50.960] as best you can, risk manage out there and just do a fantastic job and rebuild like that.
[12:52.080 -> 12:55.280] That's what it's about, that's what he needs to try and do.
[12:55.280 -> 12:59.840] Yeah I think if you look at how he opened the season, he clearly had that winter where he was
[12:59.840 -> 13:04.160] talking about being champion and the first few races didn't have that level of distraction that
[13:04.160 -> 13:05.120] perhaps we see
[13:05.120 -> 13:09.760] now and maybe that's where the complacency and inconsistency is perhaps creeping in.
[13:10.320 -> 13:14.400] It's very difficult to explain how his season has nosedived in the way that it has because he had
[13:14.400 -> 13:20.080] some really strong showings earlier in the year. It's impossible, it's impossible really to say,
[13:20.080 -> 13:26.200] but we've seen that so often with sports, especially also Formula One drivers, that they just get this, hit this patch
[13:26.200 -> 13:27.920] of like really poor form.
[13:27.920 -> 13:29.680] And I mean, Sergio is not really, I mean,
[13:29.680 -> 13:32.280] imagine five races in a row, not in Q3,
[13:32.280 -> 13:35.640] with a Red Bull car, like, and then ninth on the grid,
[13:35.640 -> 13:39.120] now in Hungary, like, wow, that's quite a struggle,
[13:39.120 -> 13:41.360] you know, so, but the day like yesterday
[13:41.360 -> 13:42.920] is really gonna help him a lot.
[13:42.920 -> 13:45.440] And he confirmed that in the post-race interviews with me.
[13:45.440 -> 13:48.720] He was like, yeah, this is really the perfect race to rebuild my confidence.
[13:48.720 -> 13:52.880] Liam, do you think actually what Sergio is doing at the moment is kind of,
[13:52.880 -> 13:57.120] it's not really bothering Red Bull because actually Red Bull could be leading the
[13:57.120 -> 14:00.240] Constructors' Championship just with Max's points by himself.
[14:00.240 -> 14:03.600] So, you know, we know how difficult that Red Bull seat is
[14:03.600 -> 14:06.000] to find a good match for
[14:06.000 -> 14:10.480] that second driver to Max Verstappen. So would you say perhaps actually the only person this
[14:10.480 -> 14:13.480] is harming really is Sergio Perez, it's not harming Red Bull?
[14:13.480 -> 14:19.500] Yeah, completely. I think if you look at previous seasons where they've needed someone to maybe
[14:19.500 -> 14:28.300] help Max from a charge in Lewis Hamilton or a bit more competition at the minute, Max is so far ahead, they don't need a second driver to maybe play team.
[14:28.300 -> 14:33.200] So if you are under fire for your seat, then Red Bull are in a position
[14:33.200 -> 14:36.500] where they can afford, like you said, to just have Max out leading out front.
[14:36.500 -> 14:40.300] They don't need someone else who's applying pressure or potentially
[14:40.300 -> 14:42.000] slowing up another driver who's on a charge.
[14:42.000 -> 14:45.240] So yeah, for Perez, I think it's gonna be really interesting
[14:45.240 -> 14:47.480] how he comes back after the break
[14:47.480 -> 14:50.680] if he maybe needs that break just to have a bit of downtime
[14:50.680 -> 14:52.960] and come back in the second half of this season
[14:52.960 -> 14:54.440] and put some performances
[14:54.440 -> 14:56.760] that might just keep him in his seat.
[14:56.760 -> 14:58.240] Because what's next, Spa, right?
[14:58.240 -> 14:59.840] Yeah, Spa this weekend, and then we've got the break.
[14:59.840 -> 15:02.080] The problem is Spa is gonna be the ultimate max
[15:02.080 -> 15:03.640] for stopping track again, I'm sure.
[15:03.640 -> 15:08.000] I mean, it's really a driver's track where you can make such a difference if you're
[15:08.000 -> 15:10.240] like dialed in and you're in the zone.
[15:10.240 -> 15:13.000] And I feel that he's going to be killing it this weekend.
[15:13.000 -> 15:18.440] And it's so difficult for a driver when you start to come to the realization that, hey,
[15:18.440 -> 15:21.600] this guy does things that I will never be able to do in my life.
[15:21.600 -> 15:30.160] And you just keep looking at it all weekend and you see these things in the data. And of course, I had these moments with Lewis. Fortunately, they didn't last
[15:30.160 -> 15:34.480] too long, but there was always these moments where I look at the data and I'm like, there's no way I
[15:34.480 -> 15:40.240] would be able to do this. This is inhuman. It's not even human anymore. And that's what Sergio
[15:40.240 -> 15:48.160] will be looking at with Max Verstappen. And's it's tough it's really tough to accept that you know that that he's just able to do something
[15:48.160 -> 15:51.820] that I'm not you know it's really not easy. What about what about that summer
[15:51.820 -> 15:56.440] break Nico when you were racing was that a period I guess it depended on how the
[15:56.440 -> 16:00.360] season was going right but if was that a period where you just needed that
[16:00.360 -> 16:03.920] that time that time to switch off to reset and to go again for the second
[16:03.920 -> 16:10.100] half of the season? Yeah it's very valuable to have that summer break and just really recharge with your family
[16:10.100 -> 16:16.000] and friends. Go with family and friends, spend a lot of time. Tell them not to mention the
[16:16.000 -> 16:20.400] word Formula One, that's important, which is often difficult because it carries over
[16:20.400 -> 16:27.000] into the family. I would come home and my father or father-in-law would tell me, hey,
[16:27.000 -> 16:28.800] I should pick up boxing.
[16:28.800 -> 16:33.340] And the reason was because Lewis was walking all over me the day before the race, you know?
[16:33.340 -> 16:36.800] So my father-in-law or my father then tells me I should pick up boxing when I come home.
[16:36.800 -> 16:38.600] I'm like, do you know how painful that is to hear?
[16:38.600 -> 16:40.080] Like, oh my God, you know?
[16:40.080 -> 16:42.640] It's like they're telling me to grow a pair of balls, you know?
[16:42.640 -> 16:46.600] Like, oh my goodness, that's horrible. So it goes all the way into your family.
[16:46.600 -> 16:50.880] So that's why it's like F1 top ban on the family and just recharge.
[16:51.000 -> 16:53.760] But fascinating insight into your summer holidays, Nico.
[16:54.000 -> 16:55.040] Yeah, I like that story.
[16:55.040 -> 16:55.640] That's a good one.
[16:56.440 -> 17:00.760] All right, let's move on to talk about McLaren, because obviously McLaren, the
[17:00.760 -> 17:05.120] last couple of races, Silverstone and now Hungary have performed exceptionally well.
[17:05.120 -> 17:12.960] I think we were both waiting for Hungary to see if it was just a Silverstone thing, the lower temperatures, the specific type of track.
[17:12.960 -> 17:18.800] But Nico, if McLaren can do it at Silverstone and at Hungary, is this car the real deal?
[17:19.440 -> 17:27.080] The McLaren car is the real deal. That's confirmed now. Of course, there's a very extreme track change now to a Spa,
[17:27.080 -> 17:29.440] but we've seen how rapid the McLaren is on the straights,
[17:29.440 -> 17:31.240] so it should be fine there as well.
[17:31.240 -> 17:34.960] And it's such an impressive technical development
[17:34.960 -> 17:37.680] that they've done during a season that's so unusual
[17:37.680 -> 17:39.720] for a team to make such a massive jump,
[17:39.720 -> 17:42.520] I mean, from like 13th to second,
[17:42.520 -> 17:44.820] like it's incredible what they've,
[17:44.820 -> 17:46.840] and they're challenging for the race win now.
[17:46.840 -> 17:49.120] I mean, it's coming, it's coming that race win, you know,
[17:49.120 -> 17:51.720] and Lando is like a champion in the making.
[17:51.720 -> 17:55.900] Yeah, he's a world-class, he's incredible as a young driver.
[17:56.880 -> 17:59.880] So unbelievable what they've done.
[17:59.880 -> 18:02.360] I hope they understand it 100% themselves.
[18:02.360 -> 18:03.400] Sometimes I'm not too sure
[18:03.400 -> 18:05.000] if they really understand everything.
[18:05.000 -> 18:10.400] Because these aerodynamics are just so complex with the underground effect.
[18:10.400 -> 18:13.600] It's very, very difficult to fully understand in the wind tunnel.
[18:13.600 -> 18:16.900] It's much more easy to see flow on top of a car than underneath.
[18:16.900 -> 18:20.800] Because underneath, then, it also changes so much with angle and with ride height.
[18:20.800 -> 18:23.700] You know, there's very, very rapid effects going on there.
[18:23.700 -> 18:26.560] So, yeah, but if they do understand it 100%,
[18:26.560 -> 18:28.040] it's phenomenal.
[18:28.040 -> 18:30.040] And they don't even have their new wind tunnel
[18:30.040 -> 18:30.880] up and running, you know,
[18:30.880 -> 18:32.840] they're still using their old wind tunnel,
[18:32.840 -> 18:35.400] which we know has its massive limitations.
[18:35.400 -> 18:37.880] So, wow, incredible.
[18:37.880 -> 18:40.640] Liam, how good is it now for Formula One
[18:40.640 -> 18:41.800] to have another person at the front,
[18:41.800 -> 18:44.720] and particularly Lando Norris, who is,
[18:44.720 -> 18:48.240] I mean, I was standing under the podium yesterday, I think he got the biggest cheer out of certainly
[18:48.240 -> 18:52.840] from Verstappen and Perez, it was all for Lando. I think like Hamilton when he came
[18:52.840 -> 18:56.920] out for the for the drivers parade got a massive cheer equal to Lando's but he probably is
[18:56.920 -> 19:01.400] one of the most popular drivers on the grid at the moment. Yeah Lando mania is real honestly
[19:01.400 -> 19:10.960] a lot of my friends who are new Formula One, it's all about Lando Norris and to see him and McLaren back near the front of F1 is good for everyone who watches
[19:10.960 -> 19:16.560] and all involved. It's just, I don't know if they can close that gap on Red Bull, like Nico said,
[19:16.560 -> 19:20.960] I'd love them to and I think the jump that they have made this season is already incredible, but
[19:20.960 -> 19:27.040] to have another team competing for that podium spots is, at least
[19:27.040 -> 19:29.840] it makes for some overtaking behind Max.
[19:29.840 -> 19:31.800] No, I can confirm that.
[19:31.800 -> 19:36.140] Again, post-race interviews, I mean, the cheer from the crowd when Lando was coming up to
[19:36.140 -> 19:38.320] talk was just massive.
[19:38.320 -> 19:43.660] So much support he has, it's really amazing to see and I hope it's not, it can be a bit
[19:43.660 -> 19:45.160] overwhelming sometimes also
[19:45.160 -> 19:49.240] for a young driver to have so much attention and so much support because F1 is taking on
[19:49.240 -> 19:53.120] dimensions now that it didn't used to have like 5-7 years ago.
[19:53.120 -> 19:57.080] I mean there's the people like under your hotel that you can't even get out anymore
[19:57.080 -> 20:02.040] even at your home wherever they're living you know so it's really going quite extreme.
[20:02.040 -> 20:07.760] I was speaking to Toto at the race weekend and he said no I'm not coming to Ibiza because it's just paparazzi nuts.
[20:07.760 -> 20:13.960] I need to go somewhere where nobody can find me, you know, for the summer holidays because everything's going out of control.
[20:14.400 -> 20:15.960] So,
[20:15.960 -> 20:17.960] yeah, so I hope Lando
[20:17.960 -> 20:19.960] manages to cope with all that attention.
[20:20.800 -> 20:23.800] Also, Oskar Piastri, he's putting in really solid
[20:25.040 -> 20:29.360] attention. Also, Oscar Piastri, he's putting in really solid performances. And I guess the excitement of Lando double podium is easy to focus on,
[20:29.360 -> 20:32.840] but Piastri is driving like someone who's much more experienced than he is in
[20:33.040 -> 20:35.160] his seat in McLaren. Yeah, you're right.
[20:35.440 -> 20:38.960] It's like this crucial phase and opportunity for a rookie.
[20:39.200 -> 20:44.200] Piastri now suddenly has that good car and it's now he has these couple of
[20:44.200 -> 20:46.480] races where it's his moment where he needs to put
[20:46.480 -> 20:52.000] A marker down as a rookie that I'm here to stay and he's doing exactly that perfectly like so perfect
[20:52.000 -> 20:54.000] He's shadowing shadowing Lando
[20:54.000 -> 21:01.240] Just just right behind him always like one tenth two tenths couple of tenths behind him always there if Lando's second Oscars third even in
[21:01.240 -> 21:04.600] Hungary now he was one place in front after the start so he's doing a perfect job
[21:04.720 -> 21:05.160] He did we did see some weaknesses then from him and in and Oskar is third, even in Hungary now, he was one place in front after the start, so he's doing a perfect job.
[21:05.160 -> 21:08.440] We did see some weaknesses then from him in Hungary,
[21:08.440 -> 21:10.520] and we saw the same ones in Silverstone actually,
[21:10.520 -> 21:12.200] that he's still struggling a little bit
[21:12.200 -> 21:15.440] with tyre management and race pace throughout the whole race,
[21:15.440 -> 21:16.520] but let's not underestimate,
[21:16.520 -> 21:19.120] I mean, it's so, so difficult to get that right,
[21:19.120 -> 21:20.480] so experience helps a lot there,
[21:20.480 -> 21:24.040] and Oskar, it really looks like that he's the real deal,
[21:24.040 -> 21:25.560] and he's here to stay,
[21:25.560 -> 21:26.560] which is awesome.
[21:26.560 -> 21:32.800] Yeah, this is a man who didn't race last year. Now he's back in Formula 1 after not being
[21:32.800 -> 21:37.720] in the car for a whole year. Nico, what about Lando's contract until 2025? I think at the
[21:37.720 -> 21:42.880] start of the season when McLaren were often not getting out of Q1, there were a lot of
[21:42.880 -> 21:47.920] people saying, wow, I mean that contract, how watertight is it? Because if you're Lando Norris, you're wanting to get out of that
[21:47.920 -> 21:53.040] potentially pretty sharpish if the McLaren isn't as good as that. Now, it's maybe starting to look
[21:53.040 -> 21:57.440] a little bit like actually till 2025, that might be the right kind of timescale for that car to get
[21:57.440 -> 22:01.200] to the front of the grid. Yeah, I mean, in general, I'm not sure that was the right decision
[22:02.000 -> 22:08.240] of him to lock himself into a McLaren for so long.
[22:08.240 -> 22:12.240] But of course now in hindsight you can always say it was the right decision because now
[22:12.240 -> 22:15.760] the car has come alive, the team is coming alive so now it's all good obviously because
[22:15.760 -> 22:21.680] he can challenge for race podiums every weekend and go for the race win very soon so now you
[22:21.680 -> 22:27.600] can say everything is done correctly and now he won't mind that contract being long because McLaren is an awesome team
[22:27.600 -> 22:29.720] And and with the way it's going
[22:30.560 -> 22:33.400] he's in a super fantastic position there, so
[22:34.240 -> 22:35.520] Why not?
[22:35.520 -> 22:40.340] Liam you start to work a little bit with with McLaren over the over the coming months
[22:40.340 -> 22:43.420] I mean what what's the mood like in the McLaren team at the moment?
[22:43.420 -> 22:47.560] What's the atmosphere like I mean if you get a couple of good results like this, I imagine it turns the
[22:47.560 -> 22:48.560] team around.
[22:48.560 -> 22:53.680] Well, we had a little party after qualifying at Silverstone, which was incredible. It just
[22:53.680 -> 22:58.860] seems like the hard work is finally starting to pay off. And I don't know how you couldn't
[22:58.860 -> 23:03.280] celebrate the results you're getting, but it really feels when you're near Lando and
[23:03.280 -> 23:08.640] Oscar up close, they seem to be a team, they seem to get on well and I think that that can help
[23:08.640 -> 23:12.920] and is important so I mean how could you not be happy at McLaren right now with
[23:12.920 -> 23:15.960] the results and the upgrades that they've put in have clearly had a
[23:15.960 -> 23:20.840] massive impact so hopefully it can continue throughout the rest of the season.
[23:20.840 -> 23:24.800] I've got a question here from always F1 on Twitter.
[23:24.800 -> 23:26.640] Nico, do you think McLaren can
[23:26.640 -> 23:30.960] finish second in the Constructors' Championship if they keep getting podiums or will other teams
[23:30.960 -> 23:35.200] eventually catch them? Second is maybe, I mean that's probably a little bit far, I mean that
[23:35.200 -> 23:41.360] that would mean Mercedes are on 223 and then McLaren are on 87 so it'd have to take a lot
[23:41.360 -> 23:45.000] of points away from Mercedes.
[23:45.000 -> 23:50.000] Yeah, no, that's not going to work out, but they're going to catch up rapidly.
[23:50.000 -> 23:55.000] But when McLaren finishes second and third, Mercedes is going to finish fourth and fifth.
[23:55.000 -> 23:59.000] So it's going to be difficult to make up that huge difference.
[23:59.000 -> 24:02.000] But I don't know who's, I mean, who's, what's the next ones there?
[24:02.000 -> 24:05.040] I mean, there's Aston and Ferrari. I don't know if they can catch one of those maybe,
[24:05.040 -> 24:07.680] but even they are gonna be pretty far up the road, aren't they?
[24:07.680 -> 24:08.760] Maybe Aston, Aston,
[24:08.760 -> 24:10.320] because at the moment they only have one driver
[24:10.320 -> 24:12.760] who's really getting bigger points,
[24:12.760 -> 24:13.960] even though even in last race,
[24:13.960 -> 24:16.040] they both didn't get many points.
[24:16.040 -> 24:17.520] Perhaps they can catch Aston.
[24:17.520 -> 24:19.560] Nico, would you rather be sat in a McLaren
[24:19.560 -> 24:21.880] or a Mercedes for the rest of the season?
[24:21.880 -> 24:25.280] Well, Mercedes, come on, because that's my home,
[24:25.280 -> 24:27.400] that's my team, it's my ex-family.
[24:27.400 -> 24:28.840] I know, I tried, I tried, I tried.
[24:28.840 -> 24:30.920] Ex-family, so I'll go for Mercedes.
[24:30.920 -> 24:34.800] There we go, yeah, that was a very good question.
[24:34.800 -> 24:37.040] Let's move on to talk about Mercedes, speaking of,
[24:37.040 -> 24:39.760] because it was a weekend of mixed fortunes, wasn't it,
[24:39.760 -> 24:41.200] for your old team, Nico?
[24:41.200 -> 24:42.520] Let's start with the positives,
[24:42.520 -> 24:45.360] that poll for Hamilton on Saturday.
[24:45.360 -> 24:50.100] You could see how much it meant to him. What do you think that did for Lewis in terms of
[24:50.100 -> 24:54.880] his energy and moving forward, feeling like the team are going in the right direction?
[24:54.880 -> 25:00.680] Yeah, I mean, I've witnessed that greatness many, many times in my career, sitting in
[25:00.680 -> 25:05.680] the same car as him. And on Saturday Saturday that was one of those very, very
[25:05.680 -> 25:10.200] special moments where nobody in the world could even come close to a lap like that that
[25:10.200 -> 25:12.000] Lewis did with that car.
[25:12.000 -> 25:18.640] I mean it was similarly to Max being inhuman in general, then Lewis was inhuman on the
[25:18.640 -> 25:21.920] Saturday there on one of his favorite tracks.
[25:21.920 -> 25:24.520] It's just the way he goes on this track is unreal.
[25:24.520 -> 25:26.080] That's why I was so sure,
[25:26.080 -> 25:28.040] because he's done it before so many times
[25:28.040 -> 25:30.160] that he just makes the impossible possible
[25:30.160 -> 25:31.640] by then winning with a car
[25:31.640 -> 25:33.360] that's actually not supposed to be winning,
[25:33.360 -> 25:34.720] especially on a track like Hungary.
[25:34.720 -> 25:36.200] So I was actually really thinking
[25:36.200 -> 25:38.200] he's going to win it on Sunday.
[25:38.200 -> 25:41.040] And we saw a really rare, rare,
[25:41.040 -> 25:42.920] like string of mistakes from him,
[25:42.920 -> 25:46.000] messing up the start, messing up turn one, messing
[25:46.000 -> 25:49.880] up turn two, and just giving up another position to Lando, just drove around the outside of
[25:49.880 -> 25:54.880] him, you know? So, um, or was it inside? No, I think outside, I'm not sure, can't remember.
[25:54.880 -> 25:59.400] Anyway, so that was very unusual. But, um, but back to the question, what was the question?
[25:59.400 -> 26:06.080] It was a case of how that result will impact Lewis going forward, you know, into the second half of the season?
[26:06.960 -> 26:10.560] Oh no, no, no, it's huge. I mean, for motivation it's huge for the whole team because
[26:10.560 -> 26:14.960] you start to believe again, hey, we can be on pole, we can win races very soon.
[26:14.960 -> 26:19.280] It just gives you this belief back and that will be such a motivational booster.
[26:20.080 -> 26:23.920] So I think it's a great thing. And who knows, maybe it can also make that difference in the
[26:23.920 -> 26:25.000] contract negotiations, you know, that he's having with Toto. Because it's a great thing. And who knows, maybe it can also make that difference in the contract negotiations
[26:25.000 -> 26:26.400] that he's having with Toto.
[26:27.200 -> 26:28.200] Because it's different.
[26:28.200 -> 26:32.400] When you start to believe again that Toto and the team can actually give you a car,
[26:32.400 -> 26:35.600] where you have a chance to win races and perhaps go for another championship,
[26:35.600 -> 26:39.000] it will be a big difference in your state of mind
[26:39.000 -> 26:41.800] than to actually putting pen to paper and signing a contract,
[26:41.800 -> 26:44.600] where, who knows, maybe there's a couple of million less
[26:44.600 -> 26:47.280] than you're hoping for or somebody else. I don't know
[26:47.280 -> 26:51.260] obviously anything but maybe that's something. Liam what did you make of
[26:51.260 -> 26:54.960] Lewis's poll? How excited were you at the prospects of Lewis being on
[26:54.960 -> 27:00.040] poll and potentially going on to win the race? I mean Lewis Hamilton is the whole
[27:00.040 -> 27:04.420] reason I ever got into Formula One many many years ago and he was in a McLaren so
[27:04.420 -> 27:12.600] I was bought into like Nico I thought Sunday was going to be a Lewis special and he was going to go and at least compete for longer.
[27:12.600 -> 27:14.680] So, I mean, it's great to see them, great to see.
[27:14.680 -> 27:20.040] You can see the emotion, which we kind of haven't seen too often in recent times from Lewis.
[27:20.040 -> 27:21.160] So that was nice to see.
[27:21.440 -> 27:30.440] And Nico will know better than me, but it seems like he's a really hard worker and that pole might just be a little bit of fire that he needs to
[27:30.840 -> 27:35.100] Hopefully go and go and put some some quicker laps down throughout the rest of the season
[27:35.100 -> 27:39.980] But for me, it was amazing to see to see Lewis Mercedes on the start of the grid on a Sunday
[27:39.980 -> 27:44.920] But just to shame he was he was back and forth after the first few corners. It didn't last very long
[27:44.920 -> 27:48.540] Did it did it that hope do you Nico? Do you think we were almost robbed of that?
[27:49.380 -> 27:54.340] That that battle that wheels will battle between Max and Lewis going into turn one, you know
[27:54.340 -> 27:57.780] Obviously we had it into turn one, but it was a pretty it was over pretty quickly, wasn't it?
[27:57.780 -> 28:03.280] And I think it was such a shame. It didn't at least give us a few more laps of that battle
[28:03.280 -> 28:07.440] Yeah, I mean it was really really such a letdown, really.
[28:07.440 -> 28:10.240] I was so excited and then I saw that happening.
[28:10.240 -> 28:13.920] I was like, oh no, come on, that's not cool.
[28:15.640 -> 28:20.140] Yeah, so that was unfortunate for us F1 fans.
[28:20.140 -> 28:22.340] But there was a wheel-to-wheel battle going into turn one
[28:22.340 -> 28:26.080] because Max purposefully ran Lewis out wide.
[28:26.080 -> 28:29.360] I mean, he just, you know, didn't even try to get the apex.
[28:29.760 -> 28:34.000] So there was a bit of a battle there, but Lewis couldn't do anything on the outside.
[28:34.400 -> 28:37.520] Once he tried to decide to go around the outside of Verstappen,
[28:37.760 -> 28:41.280] so probably Lewis should have just backed out of it or something and try and tuck in behind.
[28:42.080 -> 28:46.840] I think there's a big part of all F1 fans who just want to relive those former seasons
[28:46.840 -> 28:49.960] of Max versus Lewis and Lewis versus Max every week.
[28:49.960 -> 28:54.800] And any hint of that, you can easily get lulled
[28:54.800 -> 28:57.960] into being excited, but yeah, just wasn't there Sunday.
[28:57.960 -> 29:00.680] Of course, because Lewis is historically one
[29:00.680 -> 29:03.040] of the best ever in wheel-to-wheel racing,
[29:03.040 -> 29:07.240] and then arrived this new charger who did like
[29:07.920 -> 29:13.760] Incredible things in wheel-to-wheel racing which even took Lewis by surprise in a way
[29:13.860 -> 29:17.340] We never witnessed this kind of level before, you know, so so
[29:17.860 -> 29:21.020] To see Lewis then fighting back is just so cool, you know
[29:21.020 -> 29:24.820] And we all want to see see more of that don't realize how lucky we were in
[29:28.080 -> 29:32.840] 2021 to see that kind of weekend in, weekend out. Nico, do you sympathise with Lewis and his lack of confidence in the car? It seems like
[29:32.840 -> 29:37.840] that's kind of the, in quotes, after race weekends, that seems to be the problem. What
[29:37.840 -> 29:41.480] is it like as a driver when you don't have confidence in the machinery underneath you?
[29:41.480 -> 29:47.480] Well, I don't know if we should put too much weight on those comments, I'm not sure.
[29:47.480 -> 29:52.040] But of course, sometimes it can go that way, that the car just isn't completely to your
[29:52.040 -> 29:55.640] liking and it's never a quick change then.
[29:55.640 -> 30:00.400] It's probably a waiting till the next year kind of thing, usually.
[30:00.400 -> 30:03.520] But it's rare and usually you can work your way around it.
[30:03.520 -> 30:06.000] And I think sometimes Lewis, yeah,
[30:06.000 -> 30:09.000] like this Friday in Hungary where he said,
[30:09.000 -> 30:12.000] we're struggling so much, the car is so far off.
[30:12.000 -> 30:14.000] And then he goes in this pole position,
[30:14.000 -> 30:17.000] maybe we shouldn't put too much weighting into that.
[30:17.000 -> 30:20.000] And let's remember that he's doing such a great job against George,
[30:20.000 -> 30:24.000] who's also potentially a future world champion with what we've seen from him.
[30:24.000 -> 30:27.000] But isn't it amazing how it's just swings and roundabouts.
[30:27.000 -> 30:30.120] Like last year, George was having the better run,
[30:30.120 -> 30:32.640] better luck, and beat Lewis over a season.
[30:32.640 -> 30:35.020] And this year, everything is going against George.
[30:35.020 -> 30:36.620] Every moment on every race weekend,
[30:36.620 -> 30:38.220] it's always going against George.
[30:38.220 -> 30:40.020] So it's just the complete opposite.
[30:40.020 -> 30:42.880] And then this year, Lewis is gonna have George
[30:42.880 -> 30:44.800] under control in the championship.
[30:44.800 -> 30:48.760] But what a great recovery drive from George from 18 coming back to six was again,
[30:48.760 -> 30:51.440] like it was such a such a fantastic drive.
[30:52.240 -> 30:53.280] Really, really well done.
[31:03.560 -> 31:11.240] Liam, are you, I guess, when we first entered 2022 and we were kind of, every weekend that
[31:11.240 -> 31:15.440] Mercedes weren't up right at the very top was a shock. And are we now in a situation
[31:15.440 -> 31:19.520] with Mercedes where it's kind of like, oh, well, you know, they are just kind of operating
[31:19.520 -> 31:23.260] in the midfield at the moment, being honest, it's hard for them to get out of the midfield.
[31:23.260 -> 31:31.280] It's no longer a shock, say, when they end up P4, P5, P6. Yeah, completely. I wanted, after the end of the season success
[31:31.280 -> 31:35.440] they had, I thought the gap would be much closer and I did think originally at the start of the
[31:35.440 -> 31:40.880] season that the early results were just a blip, but I think you showed, the car revealed its
[31:40.880 -> 31:45.520] true pace on Sunday. Obviously, it came back when it had a lighter fuel load in the end,
[31:45.520 -> 31:47.520] but I just think it's where Mercedes-Benz are.
[31:47.520 -> 31:49.600] McLaren have obviously made the jumps they had.
[31:49.600 -> 31:54.160] And if Mercedes-Benz can get on the podium consistently,
[31:54.160 -> 31:56.000] that seems like success at the minute.
[31:56.000 -> 31:58.880] And obviously that's not what so many F1 fans are used to
[31:58.880 -> 32:01.840] over the last six, seven, eight years.
[32:04.160 -> 32:08.000] I wonder what that is, that the Mercedes car can fairly well
[32:08.000 -> 32:11.000] cope with a one lap pace or low fuel pace
[32:11.000 -> 32:13.000] and then when it's heavy just be so far off.
[32:14.000 -> 32:15.000] I wonder what that is.
[32:15.000 -> 32:19.000] Some head scratching at Mercedes HQ, yeah.
[32:20.000 -> 32:21.000] A tweet here from Stephanie.
[32:21.000 -> 32:24.000] During the Hungarian Grand Prix, this is to you Nico, sorry,
[32:24.000 -> 32:25.560] you said Lewis isn't done
[32:25.560 -> 32:27.100] with F1 yet.
[32:27.100 -> 32:29.560] How long do you think he can and wants to go on?
[32:29.560 -> 32:35.080] Well, because Martin Brandl said we're seeing the handing over of the baton from Lewis to
[32:35.080 -> 32:37.400] Lando and I was like, whoa, whoa, hang on a second.
[32:37.400 -> 32:39.520] I don't think we're there yet.
[32:39.520 -> 32:42.640] And it's impossible to say how long.
[32:42.640 -> 32:45.020] I mean, if he's enjoying himself
[32:45.020 -> 32:46.480] and he still feels motivated
[32:46.480 -> 32:51.020] and believes that he can still have a car to win races
[32:51.020 -> 32:53.160] and he's earning, I mean, who knows,
[32:53.160 -> 32:55.260] 40, 50 million a year plus, whatever,
[32:56.340 -> 33:00.160] then yeah, it's possible he'll still do many years.
[33:00.160 -> 33:01.000] Why not?
[33:01.000 -> 33:01.840] I mean, look at Fernando.
[33:01.840 -> 33:06.980] Fernando is 42 and is still world class.. I mean the way he's driving is still
[33:07.960 -> 33:09.480] incredible so
[33:09.480 -> 33:11.480] So yeah, yeah, who knows?
[33:11.640 -> 33:14.360] I mean Liam, how long would you like to see Lewis go on for?
[33:14.360 -> 33:18.440] I'd obviously love to see him in a position to compete for an eighth
[33:19.120 -> 33:25.840] That would be for me something that I'd love to see. He's the reason I love F1 and to see him again
[33:26.060 -> 33:31.000] be close to being crowned a world champion would be amazing. But at the minute, just
[33:31.640 -> 33:36.880] that dream of an eighth is for me fading and fading away and hopefully Mercedes can
[33:36.980 -> 33:40.280] can pull it together and at least get him a car that can compete with
[33:40.440 -> 33:43.940] with Red Bull and McLaren if they keep improving the way they do.
[33:44.080 -> 33:48.320] Yeah, because even for next year, even for next year now, it's starting to be difficult because
[33:48.320 -> 33:53.600] in the post-race interview with Christian Horner, he said that the Red Bull team is now putting 100%
[33:53.600 -> 34:00.000] focus already on next year. They're not developing this year's car anymore. So Mercedes, at the very
[34:00.000 -> 34:03.920] least, has to do that as well to have a fighting chance against Red Bull next year. But it's just,
[34:03.920 -> 34:07.480] it becomes such a long game, you know know in F1 that it's very difficult to
[34:07.480 -> 34:08.480] catch up.
[34:08.480 -> 34:11.080] There's no guarantees either that next year that Mercedes will be able to give Lewis a
[34:11.080 -> 34:12.720] car to go for eight.
[34:12.720 -> 34:14.760] No, no, not at all.
[34:14.760 -> 34:18.720] Right, the final kind of big topic I want to get into is just Ricciardo's weekend.
[34:18.720 -> 34:23.040] Obviously his first weekend back in Formula 1 this season replacing Nick de Vries at
[34:23.040 -> 34:24.040] AlphaTauri.
[34:24.040 -> 34:28.080] Nico, start with you, give us some marks out of 10 for how you think Daniel's
[34:28.080 -> 34:33.200] weekend was. It's really difficult to judge, I think in general you would say
[34:33.200 -> 34:37.760] 9, maybe you would even give him a 10, I don't know. The thing is I'm not able to
[34:37.760 -> 34:42.360] judge his race in itself because he got shunted from behind and then
[34:42.360 -> 34:46.900] as a result he crashed out the two Alpines, which was not his fault.
[34:46.900 -> 34:51.260] After that I really don't know what he was doing pace wise, but Liam do you know?
[34:51.260 -> 34:52.260] Any idea?
[34:52.260 -> 34:53.260] No, I'm not sure.
[34:53.260 -> 34:58.140] Too focused at the front, but it's great to see him back.
[34:58.140 -> 35:01.260] We all love a Ricciardo in an F1 car.
[35:01.260 -> 35:06.240] He did finish 13th and well ahead of Tsunoda and everything, so maybe his pace was good.
[35:06.240 -> 35:08.200] But anyways, already his qualifying pace
[35:08.200 -> 35:12.960] was really strong, because beating Tsunoda
[35:12.960 -> 35:14.640] first time back is really strong
[35:14.640 -> 35:17.000] in a car that you've never driven before,
[35:17.000 -> 35:18.720] with very little running the day before.
[35:18.720 -> 35:20.440] You know, that's, wow, that's the ultimate challenge.
[35:20.440 -> 35:24.120] So, super, and it's so nice for all of us that he's back.
[35:24.120 -> 35:25.680] We love watching Daniel
[35:25.680 -> 35:31.520] Ricciardo, you know he's such a such a warrior on the racetrack and Christian Orner was saying that
[35:31.520 -> 35:36.000] a happy Daniel Ricciardo is a fast Daniel Ricciardo and I'm seeing him very happy at the moment.
[35:36.000 -> 35:41.520] The pressure and expectation is not really getting to him which is so he seems to be in a good place
[35:41.520 -> 35:45.600] and maybe then we can see a different Daniel Ricciardo and see the old Daniel Ricciardo
[35:45.600 -> 35:46.060] again, you know
[35:46.060 -> 35:47.800] who was incredibly fast and talented.
[35:47.800 -> 35:53.240] When I saw he was going to be back in back in F1 and then the Red Bull rumor mill started
[35:53.240 -> 35:59.720] I kind of wondered what he'd have to do for the remainder of the season to put forward a good enough argument to get a
[35:59.720 -> 36:03.720] seat at Red Bull. I don't know what success for Daniel Ricciardo looks like this season.
[36:04.240 -> 36:07.000] Well, it's gonna be really dominating Tsunoda.
[36:07.980 -> 36:11.240] It's gonna be getting some points, some strong races.
[36:12.080 -> 36:14.720] And then it depends on Perez also.
[36:14.720 -> 36:16.720] If Perez continues this difficult form,
[36:17.880 -> 36:21.000] then there could be a chance, but it's gonna be a big ask.
[36:21.000 -> 36:23.240] But anyway, I think Daniel made a bit of a mistake
[36:23.240 -> 36:29.440] to mention that interest in going back to Red Bull racing, because it just adds the whole focus now on him is like, is he
[36:29.440 -> 36:35.280] going to manage to do this? And it's all about that. And it shouldn't be, it should be about him
[36:35.280 -> 36:42.000] just racing for Alpha Tauri and trying to do a good job. That's it. So it's a mistake for him to
[36:42.000 -> 36:47.100] put so much focus on, I'm only here because I want to get back to Red Bull Racing. That's a mistake for him to put so much focus on I'm only here because I want to get back to Red Bull Racing.
[36:47.100 -> 36:49.060] That's a big lesson that I learned in my career,
[36:49.060 -> 36:51.700] you know, that's a total unnecessary extra pressure.
[36:51.700 -> 36:53.900] It gives us some extra jeopardy to talk about though,
[36:53.900 -> 36:54.740] doesn't it?
[36:54.740 -> 36:55.580] Totally, because, yeah, you're good.
[36:55.580 -> 36:56.900] I've never told you, but.
[36:56.900 -> 36:59.880] Yeah, because you're going to rate him based on that.
[36:59.880 -> 37:02.940] Was Sunday good enough to get him back to Red Bull Racing?
[37:02.940 -> 37:04.020] That's all what it's about now.
[37:04.020 -> 37:05.880] And that's not good. That's not healthy.
[37:05.880 -> 37:10.180] Getting in that car halfway through the season, having not even tested in that car,
[37:10.180 -> 37:13.380] was this weekend, do you think, a lot about just kind of getting comfortable
[37:13.380 -> 37:17.180] understanding that Alfa Tauri and getting the setup right in order for maybe then
[37:17.180 -> 37:22.480] Belgium might be a slightly even better thought for him because I guess he'll spend what all week in the factory this week
[37:22.480 -> 37:26.460] working on the setup, working on the car to make sure it's as good as it can be for him.
[37:26.460 -> 37:29.980] Yeah, I mean, he's a race winner in Belgium as well.
[37:29.980 -> 37:32.140] So it's a track he goes well at,
[37:32.140 -> 37:34.380] because he beat me there, I remember that.
[37:34.380 -> 37:37.760] And Hungary, I think, was really about also
[37:37.760 -> 37:39.420] getting the small things right,
[37:39.420 -> 37:41.620] like even just your brake pedal feel.
[37:41.620 -> 37:43.860] Because some drivers will like really hard brake pedals,
[37:43.860 -> 37:48.960] some drivers will like soft brake pedal. And even that can make a huge difference than on your performance.
[37:48.960 -> 37:55.040] So a lot of, I think a lot of fine-tuning just for driver comfort will have happened in Hungary for
[37:55.040 -> 38:00.080] him and that's why there's much more to come from him once he settles in into the car and feels
[38:00.080 -> 38:04.160] comfortable and has a comfortable seat and position and steering wheel and everything.
[38:06.080 -> 38:07.080] So it was a good start.
[38:07.080 -> 38:10.660] Liam, I'm intrigued to get your thoughts, and this is actually a question from Stephanie
[38:10.660 -> 38:16.160] on Twitter. How much time should F1 rookies get to prove themselves? And yourself, you're
[38:16.160 -> 38:22.040] a professional footballer, and imagine if you, I don't know what 10 races is in football
[38:22.040 -> 38:25.520] terms, I'm going to, let's say six months. Imagine you get six months
[38:25.520 -> 38:29.200] half a season to prove your worth. It's brutal isn't it?
[38:29.200 -> 38:35.280] Well it's brutal in the sense that it's so unforgiving F1. It's hard to draw a comparison
[38:35.280 -> 38:40.600] with football because I guess the ruthlessness of it if you don't take your chance and you
[38:40.600 -> 38:46.040] need to be in that top elite elite group of people in the world who get to sit in a F1 car.
[38:46.040 -> 38:49.240] I'd like to think you'd need a season to get used
[38:49.240 -> 38:51.040] to everything and the new surroundings
[38:51.040 -> 38:52.200] because you see the jump,
[38:52.200 -> 38:55.160] the jump up is so vast and so massive.
[38:55.160 -> 38:57.120] I'd like to think you'd get a season,
[38:57.120 -> 38:59.800] but when you're dealing with the very top percentage
[38:59.800 -> 39:03.040] of elite sport, you can understand how decisions are made
[39:03.040 -> 39:05.520] as ruthlessly or as quickly as they are.
[39:05.520 -> 39:10.200] What do you think Nico, you think he's been hard done by or you think you need a season
[39:10.200 -> 39:15.760] to kind of really understand what you need to be a top F1 driver?
[39:15.760 -> 39:21.160] Vision Order said we're only interested in Nick if he looks to be like the world class
[39:21.160 -> 39:30.080] we're looking for to potentially come to Red Bull Racing. And they came to the conclusion that yes, Nick can be a great Formula One
[39:30.080 -> 39:34.320] racer or whatever, but he'll just never be what we're looking for to potentially
[39:34.320 -> 39:38.040] have him in Red Bull Racing. And then it's just not of interest for us and we
[39:38.040 -> 39:42.000] have this opportunity with Ricciardo at the same time. I mean certainly that was
[39:42.000 -> 39:45.960] decisive in the decision to release Nick. If it wasn't for Ricciardo there,
[39:45.960 -> 39:48.400] Nick surely would have finished the season.
[39:48.400 -> 39:51.040] But there was that opportunity to put Daniel back in the car
[39:51.040 -> 39:54.040] and evaluate him if perhaps they could find
[39:54.040 -> 39:55.320] the old Daniel once again,
[39:55.320 -> 39:57.520] and not the Daniel they saw at McLaren,
[39:57.520 -> 39:59.720] which would be very exciting for Red Bull as a whole,
[39:59.720 -> 40:02.200] because of course Daniel is huge personality
[40:02.200 -> 40:03.960] and was a huge driver, you know?
[40:03.960 -> 40:06.000] So I think it was a combination
[40:06.000 -> 40:07.620] and it was very harsh on Nick
[40:07.620 -> 40:10.620] because to get kicked out of your dream,
[40:10.620 -> 40:12.500] for Nick and for all of us, you know,
[40:12.500 -> 40:15.400] the dream is drive a Formula One, be a Formula One driver.
[40:15.400 -> 40:16.820] And then you get it for a couple of races
[40:16.820 -> 40:19.160] and you get kicked out brutally.
[40:19.160 -> 40:21.060] It's so harsh mentally.
[40:21.060 -> 40:22.780] And you saw it on his social media
[40:22.780 -> 40:24.660] that he just went blackout on social media
[40:24.660 -> 40:29.760] and just came with a short statement and said hey sorry I need time for myself you know
[40:29.760 -> 40:35.040] it's painful so yeah that's the way it is sometimes I guess.
[40:35.040 -> 40:40.760] Human level there's just huge sympathy with going through that process so publicly it's
[40:40.760 -> 40:41.760] not nice.
[40:41.760 -> 40:46.000] It's like if you met tomorrow, Sky calls you up and says,
[40:46.000 -> 40:48.000] hey Matt, you're just not good enough.
[40:48.000 -> 40:49.000] Yeah, brutal, horrible.
[40:49.000 -> 40:51.000] You're getting kicked out.
[40:51.000 -> 40:53.000] And it takes you by surprise as well, kind of.
[40:53.000 -> 40:54.000] Yeah, yeah.
[40:54.000 -> 40:58.000] That's the same feeling.
[40:58.000 -> 41:01.000] And then add 100 million people watching that.
[41:01.000 -> 41:04.000] So 100 million people watching Sky telling you publicly,
[41:04.000 -> 41:08.720] hey Matt, you're just not good enough, please leave, leave the team. Go, go home.
[41:08.720 -> 41:16.760] Horrible. This, this can be quoted out of context. Yeah, no, not not nice at all. And
[41:16.760 -> 41:21.400] yeah, I say huge, huge amount of sympathy in that scenario. And just want to just want
[41:21.400 -> 41:29.840] to quickly look ahead, Nico to Belgium this to Belgium this weekend. What are your expectations? Is it hard to look past another Red Bull domination there?
[41:29.840 -> 41:35.120] Yeah, probably. But at the same time, there can be surprises in Belgium.
[41:35.120 -> 41:38.160] We've always seen that there can be real surprises.
[41:38.160 -> 41:43.200] And probably the team that has a chance to surprise will be McLaren.
[41:43.200 -> 41:47.860] Maybe someone like Ferrari in qualifying or something.
[41:47.860 -> 41:50.420] Because I don't see, Mercedes I don't see at all
[41:50.420 -> 41:52.180] because they have no straight line speed
[41:52.180 -> 41:55.060] or very little for now.
[41:55.060 -> 41:57.540] And then Aston I think somehow are a little bit
[41:57.540 -> 42:00.180] on the back foot, but I would put it to McLaren
[42:00.180 -> 42:01.980] to do a big surprise.
[42:01.980 -> 42:03.180] That'd be great.
[42:03.180 -> 42:06.000] Yeah, I hope after Perez is charged this weekend
[42:06.000 -> 42:10.000] that we can see him and Max at least have battled out some laps.
[42:10.000 -> 42:12.000] I think he'll have got great confidence from Hungary
[42:12.000 -> 42:15.000] and if he can take that into next week,
[42:15.000 -> 42:18.000] hopefully we can see Red Bull McLaren shoot out,
[42:18.000 -> 42:19.000] which would be nice.
[42:19.000 -> 42:22.000] Last race, of course, before the summer break.
[42:22.000 -> 42:24.000] Right, final two things.
[42:24.000 -> 42:29.440] I've got a question here for Nico from Andrew. Where did you get that shirt that you wore on yesterday's show?
[42:29.440 -> 42:33.520] Nico, I liked it, I liked it a lot you know, I sat there at home, I thought it's a good
[42:33.520 -> 42:38.840] shirt. So what you don't know is I had the full outfit in the morning because I have
[42:38.840 -> 42:45.000] the matching silk shorts. Wow. And I was asking the SkyBoss Billy, can I pull it off?
[42:45.000 -> 42:46.080] Can you allow me to?
[42:46.080 -> 42:49.120] And he was like, if you feel comfortable, go ahead.
[42:49.120 -> 42:51.120] But I chickened out, I chickened out
[42:51.120 -> 42:53.120] and I put a long, long pant on to go with it.
[42:53.120 -> 42:57.640] So actually it's my Ibiza Ushuaia party shirt.
[42:57.640 -> 43:02.640] From a vintage shop next to our ice cream parlor in Ibiza,
[43:02.880 -> 43:04.960] which our ice cream is called Vivi's Creamery.
[43:04.960 -> 43:08.240] Vivi's Creamery in the old town. And we're like number one ice cream now in Ibiza and it's from the vintage shop next to our ice cream parlor in Ibiza, which our ice cream is called Vivi's Creamery. Vivi's Creamery in the old town and we're like number one ice cream now in Ibiza and
[43:08.240 -> 43:12.320] it's from the vintage shop next door. So, but yeah, I like to start pushing a bit of boundaries
[43:12.320 -> 43:16.880] on the fashion front. Look great. Maybe we'll see the shorts next weekend with a different shirt.
[43:16.880 -> 43:21.680] I look epic. I guarantee you with the shorts and the combination is epic, but I chickened out.
[43:21.680 -> 43:28.280] When you got on the bus in the morning, was some weeps weren't there and and and some more whistles I think amongst us. Yeah, exactly exactly exactly
[43:28.520 -> 43:31.120] Like it was like you look great. You look great
[43:31.120 -> 43:37.080] And then the final thing which Liam you you brought this to my attention today because I Nico I've got no one
[43:37.080 -> 43:42.060] I have to know I'm one for sport curses. It was the Drake curse for a little bit
[43:42.060 -> 43:46.040] Have you seen the Nico Rosberg f1 curse that's been going around on Twitter?
[43:46.240 -> 43:48.640] Yeah, that's not cool. Yeah, that's not cool at all
[43:49.320 -> 43:52.080] Because I just I post like on race weekends
[43:52.080 -> 43:58.560] I just post a picture from the pit lane with some with a car or something and and that car has then gone pretty poorly
[43:58.560 -> 44:01.560] So I need to be careful with that in future
[44:02.280 -> 44:07.000] the next few weeks are really big because if you post another picture next weekend
[44:07.000 -> 44:12.000] and the team or the driver perform bad, it's going to just keep getting bigger and bigger.
[44:12.000 -> 44:15.000] Yeah, that's why I need to put the pause button. I'm not doing that anymore.
[44:15.000 -> 44:19.000] You can do a carousel of every driver and then you can't get blamed.
[44:19.000 -> 44:24.000] Yeah, so the back of the back story here is that on Saturday I posted Max's car
[44:24.000 -> 44:25.840] and of course he lost the qualifying and then on
[44:25.840 -> 44:28.760] Sunday I was like go Mercedes and I posted Lewis's car
[44:29.320 -> 44:36.360] And that went completely that went completely wrong. So that's the backstory behind this. Yeah, no pressure. No pressure Nico powers
[44:37.240 -> 44:42.780] Nico curse. Yeah, it was a lot of talk of that on on social media over the weekend, right? Okay, Liam
[44:42.780 -> 44:48.800] Thank you for your time Nico. Thank thank you very much for your time as well. Much appreciated. And we will be back on the podcast next Tuesday
[44:48.800 -> 44:52.720] to look back at the Belgian Grand Prix, the final race before the summer break. So we hope you can
[44:52.720 -> 45:00.560] join us next Tuesday. Bye for now. Sky Sports F1. Feel it all.
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