Ted's Podbook | Perez win will silence doubters

Ted Kravitz reviews the biggest stories from the paddock ahead from Sao Paulo GP including the futures of Sergio Perez and Fernando Alonso. Also the departure of Mercedes' chief technical officer Mike Elliott.

**Summary of the Transcript: Ted's Notebook from the 2022 Sao Paulo Grand Prix**

- Ted Kravitz discusses the biggest stories from the paddock ahead of the Sao Paulo GP, including the futures of Sergio Perez and Fernando Alonso, and the departure of Mercedes' chief technical officer Mike Elliott.


- Daniel Ricciardo's return to form and redemption with Alfa Tauri is highlighted, along with Yuki Tsunoda's desire to make amends for his recent clashes.


- Sergio Perez remains motivated to prove himself and silence rumors about his seat being in jeopardy, despite the disappointment of retiring on lap one at his home race in Mexico.


- Fernando Alonso confirms his commitment to Aston Martin and dismisses rumors of discontent or a move to Red Bull, but admits the team needs to find a car that he feels comfortable and happy with.


- Nico Hulkenberg reminisces about his pole position at Interlagos in 2010 and discusses sun cream recommendations with Ted.


- Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz express confidence in Ferrari's potential for a podium finish, but Sainz acknowledges that McLaren remains a threat.


- Lando Norris acknowledges the challenges of the Sao Paulo circuit for McLaren's car, but remains hopeful for a strong result.


- George Russell and Lewis Hamilton defend Mike Elliott, Mercedes' former chief technical officer, who left the team after the failed concept of the no side pods car.


- Hamilton expresses his determination to prepare for a championship challenge in 2024 and his desire to secure second place in the Drivers' Championship.


- The famous Transamerica Hotel in Sao Paulo, where many Formula 1 drivers and personnel stayed in the past, is being torn down, marking the end of an era.


- James Vowles, Mercedes' strategy director, recently welcomed his first child and will be joining the team for the Saturday and Sunday sessions of the Brazilian GP before returning home for paternity leave.

[00:00.000 -> 00:09.320] Hello everybody and welcome back to the Sky Sports F1 podcast feed and to Ted's
[00:09.320 -> 00:15.720] pod book from Sao Paulo Brazil. This is my favorite race of the season. Let me
[00:15.720 -> 00:21.080] describe the scene to you. We are outside or I'm outside our hotel. It's the
[00:21.080 -> 00:30.180] evening, it's Thursday evening so so with a time difference we're three hours behind you in the UK. You're probably going to be
[00:30.180 -> 00:35.300] listening to this on Friday morning. So it's Thursday evening here and I've got
[00:35.300 -> 00:39.560] these, I don't know what kind of trees they are, they're sort of summer palms,
[00:39.560 -> 00:48.760] some amazing kind of fig tree canopies and amazing exposed roots. Anyway look, they're
[00:48.760 -> 00:54.920] Brazilian trees around the car park. You might see some cars coming and going of
[00:54.920 -> 01:00.340] our hotel. And by the way, for Brazilian hotel news stay tuned to the end of the
[01:00.340 -> 01:08.840] pod book because there is a bit of news on Sao Paulo Formula One hotels that you might be interested in if you've been following Formula One for
[01:08.840 -> 01:13.800] a long time. But as the evening, as the sun goes down in the evening, it starts to
[01:13.800 -> 01:19.760] wear on. There are some birds in the trees doing some calling sounds that you
[01:19.760 -> 01:24.720] might hear and it's been a kind of concentrated day at the race because
[01:24.720 -> 01:29.500] Brazil you you tend to go in things start quite early the press conferences
[01:29.500 -> 01:34.520] started about 11 p.m. and because obviously then Europe goes to sleep and
[01:34.520 -> 01:39.900] the curfew starts at 5 30 p.m. local time everything is kind of crammed into
[01:39.900 -> 01:45.560] one day now a short time in one day now it's not a problem because it's it's a
[01:45.560 -> 01:49.760] special day today in Brazil it's a national holiday it's all souls day so
[01:49.760 -> 01:55.720] November the 2nd is a public holiday so when we left our hotel this morning
[01:55.720 -> 01:59.120] we're all looking around saying hang on where is everybody because we're staying
[01:59.120 -> 02:04.520] in a kind of office business district and of course it's a public holiday well
[02:04.520 -> 02:05.060] we've as we found out it's a public holiday. Well, as we
[02:05.060 -> 02:09.520] found out, it's their version of Halloween, Day of the Dead, whatever you want to call
[02:09.520 -> 02:15.240] it, where they remember those friends and family relations who have passed away. So
[02:15.240 -> 02:20.640] it's effectively Brazil's Day of the Dead today. So yeah, All Souls Day, and that means
[02:20.640 -> 02:25.920] it's been pretty quiet in downtown Sao Paulo but not very quiet at
[02:25.920 -> 02:31.200] the circuit where a lot has been going on. So who was my first destination? It
[02:31.200 -> 02:35.440] was Daniel Ricciardo actually who was the first one we're going to talk to. I'm
[02:35.440 -> 02:41.240] doing a piece about Daniel Ricciardo, about the story of his return to form,
[02:41.240 -> 02:46.500] redemption, whatever you want to call it. Found his mojo again, found his pace, back in the points.
[02:46.500 -> 02:50.000] So his first points he scored in Mexico last time out,
[02:50.000 -> 02:54.000] since coming back into Formula 1, since he left McLaren, actually.
[02:54.000 -> 02:56.000] So I thought that was worth it.
[02:56.000 -> 03:02.000] And that's obviously bigger stories to tell with why Alfa Tauri have managed to,
[03:02.000 -> 03:04.000] how they've managed to improve, where they go.
[03:04.000 -> 03:06.920] We've got a bit of Yuki in there as well,
[03:06.920 -> 03:09.280] and what it means for Riccardo
[03:09.280 -> 03:12.000] in the sort of larger Red Bull picture
[03:12.000 -> 03:13.960] with Sergio Perez, who I'll tell you about in a minute.
[03:13.960 -> 03:17.480] So that was my first port of call today.
[03:17.480 -> 03:20.000] Then we had the press conference,
[03:20.000 -> 03:23.360] where Fernando Alonso was in there,
[03:23.360 -> 03:26.040] rather sort of robustly addressing some of the rumors. And do you know what? There are so many rumors about Fernando Alonso was in there, rather sort of robustly addressing some of the rumors.
[03:26.040 -> 03:26.880] And do you know what?
[03:26.880 -> 03:27.760] There are so many rumors about Fernando Alonso,
[03:27.760 -> 03:30.440] I got lost about which ones you were hearing.
[03:30.440 -> 03:33.600] You know, was he disenchanted with Aston Martin
[03:33.600 -> 03:34.800] and didn't want to continue?
[03:34.800 -> 03:37.360] Or was he going to go and take Checo's seat at Red Bull?
[03:37.360 -> 03:39.360] It's like, I don't really get it.
[03:39.360 -> 03:41.280] Well, I did, so I didn't really, you know,
[03:41.280 -> 03:43.960] cause too much attention or pull too much attention.
[03:43.960 -> 03:45.120] That, what I did ask him
[03:45.120 -> 03:50.960] is on the car side, why they can't just go back to the car that was felt so good to drive earlier
[03:50.960 -> 03:55.280] on the season. He said, well, we can, but it would be slower because everybody else has moved
[03:55.280 -> 03:59.760] forwards so quickly. So, you know, it's not that the car feels horrible to drive. It's just that
[03:59.760 -> 04:07.200] it is a bit slower than they would like. So I understand that, but at least give, I thought, I said to him, you know, do you
[04:07.200 -> 04:10.440] not want at least a car that you feel happy with and comfortable with?
[04:10.480 -> 04:13.440] Because it doesn't seem like you've had that going between the new parts and the
[04:13.440 -> 04:18.280] old parts at various points of the last two races in Austin and Mexico.
[04:19.000 -> 04:20.520] It doesn't seem like you're particularly happy.
[04:20.520 -> 04:23.160] He says, well, you know, we're going to find our way.
[04:23.160 -> 04:25.720] So, uh, but he did he did, Alonso,
[04:25.720 -> 04:30.880] confirm his devotion to the team, his motivation and he's so proud of the
[04:30.880 -> 04:34.360] season they've had and is looking forward to next season staying with
[04:34.360 -> 04:39.120] Aston Martin. Don't know why I started with him, just letting you know. What else
[04:39.120 -> 04:52.560] was going on? Early on in the press conference we had, or in the scenes we had, so we had Yuki Tsunoda who was keen to put the disappointments of clashing with Oscar Piastri and not scoring
[04:52.560 -> 04:58.160] more points for Alfa Tauri behind him. He was a little bit annoyed. Oscar Piastri who
[04:58.160 -> 05:04.280] also, by the way, picked up damage from that incident. So that affected Piastri's standing
[05:04.280 -> 05:09.740] at the end, or rather his speed at the end of the race in the McLaren. But this is good that he's...
[05:10.260 -> 05:12.660] Yuki feels happy that he's, you know,
[05:12.920 -> 05:19.560] got the opportunity to to get back straight in the car and to put right some of those wrongs. A familiar tale
[05:19.980 -> 05:22.380] actually of Sergio Perez as well. You might hear
[05:24.020 -> 05:26.520] the aircraft behind me so we're
[05:26.520 -> 05:30.520] kind of on the approach to Congonhas Airport which is the local airport.
[05:30.520 -> 05:36.320] Think of it as sort of City Airport in downtown São Paulo. So yeah you might
[05:36.320 -> 05:44.800] hear some aircraft overhead. Yuki also saying that AlphaTauri is
[05:44.800 -> 05:47.280] not as quick as the Williams at the moment.
[05:47.280 -> 05:52.400] And then I asked Alex Albon about that and Alex said, yeah, yeah, no, the AlphaTauri
[05:52.400 -> 05:54.480] is definitely quicker than the Williams at the moment.
[05:55.200 -> 05:59.760] So watch that fight as it continues throughout the next race or two.
[06:00.400 -> 06:01.840] I put some numbers to Alex Albon.
[06:02.480 -> 06:05.000] 13, that's where he is in the Drivers' Championship.
[06:05.000 -> 06:07.000] 9, the number of drivers behind him.
[06:07.000 -> 06:13.560] 3, the three races that he's scored points in, the last three events.
[06:13.560 -> 06:17.600] And 2, 2 and 2, which are the number of points he's scored in the last three races.
[06:17.600 -> 06:22.600] So we had a bit of back and forth while he didn't know what numbers I was talking about.
[06:22.600 -> 06:28.760] But he admitted that it hasn't so much been that he's thought that the last few races have suited the Williams car
[06:28.760 -> 06:33.800] It's just that they've managed to do operationally a very good job and get some points out of it
[06:33.800 -> 06:39.440] Even the disqualifications of Austin where Logan Sargent got a point as well
[06:40.360 -> 06:45.000] Niko Hulkenberg was also in the first batch of drivers to appear in the TV pen.
[06:45.000 -> 06:46.000] Excuse me.
[06:46.000 -> 06:52.000] I was completely unoriginal in saying that I remember 13 years ago when a young Nico Hulkenberg,
[06:52.000 -> 06:56.000] wearing a white Williams race suit and a blue hat, got pole position here in the wet.
[06:56.000 -> 06:59.000] And he said, wow, you're the first person to mention that to me.
[06:59.000 -> 07:01.000] I said, oh, am I? Was an original thought.
[07:01.000 -> 07:03.000] He said, no, everybody else has.
[07:03.000 -> 07:05.480] Thanks, Nico. am I was an original thought he said no everybody else has thanks Nico we also
[07:05.480 -> 07:10.520] had some back-and-forth exchanging some tips on sun cream after he spent a few
[07:10.520 -> 07:17.680] days in Mexico I think with his partner and his daughter's his daughter so yeah
[07:17.680 -> 07:23.520] I was just giving him some tips on good sun cream for kids science and the
[07:23.520 -> 07:30.880] color science and Charles Leclerc were confident. Ferrari, are they a story at the moment?
[07:30.880 -> 07:36.320] Yes, it was pole and second front row in Mexico. Weren't able to make anything more than third and
[07:36.320 -> 07:42.640] fourth in that. But Carlos Sainz was saying, because I noticed that he had finally caught up
[07:42.640 -> 07:45.760] with and overtaken his compatriot and sort of
[07:45.760 -> 07:50.680] hero Fernando Alonso in the driver's standings. I think it's 183 points each. And he said,
[07:50.680 -> 07:54.160] look, Fernando had a much better start to the season than I did. Now I've gotten much
[07:54.160 -> 07:59.840] stronger the car at the end. And I think everybody is going to end up with the points they deserve.
[07:59.840 -> 08:03.880] Now, I don't know that there was just a throwaway comment or whether it was sort of pointed
[08:03.880 -> 08:09.720] in any in any way. But he's certainly hoping to have more points than Charles Leclerc, doesn't
[08:09.720 -> 08:15.520] at the moment, and sees the threat of McLaren still very real, does Carlos Sainz.
[08:15.520 -> 08:21.660] I say look, don't think that Ferrari was some kind of great race in Mexico where we're going
[08:21.660 -> 08:24.320] to be third and fourth and knocking on the doors.
[08:24.320 -> 08:27.520] It's only because Lando had a bit of a miserable... there you go, there's the birds in the background.
[08:27.520 -> 08:33.600] Can you hear them? Cooey! Only because Lando had a miserable qualifying which affected his race
[08:33.600 -> 08:38.280] that meant that he didn't score many more points and I feel Carlos was
[08:38.280 -> 08:42.240] hinting that he would have been beaten by the McLaren had Lando actually
[08:42.240 -> 08:45.880] managed to qualify well and have a better Grand Prix.
[08:45.880 -> 08:46.880] So watch out for that.
[08:46.880 -> 08:51.720] Charles Leclerc saying, look, I like this event, like this race and hoping for another
[08:51.720 -> 08:52.720] podium.
[08:52.720 -> 08:57.680] Lando saying he doesn't expect, and it sounds like a stuck record, but he did appreciate
[08:57.680 -> 09:01.040] and acknowledge that.
[09:01.040 -> 09:06.400] This circuit only has a couple of fast corners and that's the McLaren strength and
[09:06.960 -> 09:11.040] otherwise in the infield it's got a lot of slow corners and that's what the McLaren this year
[09:11.040 -> 09:14.880] doesn't particularly like. I did point out to him that's what he said in Mexico and lots of other
[09:14.880 -> 09:20.160] races and they've been fine and he acknowledged that but anyway you know you'll see if McLaren
[09:20.160 -> 09:31.280] don't have a great weekend then don't say that Lando didn't warn you because he did. And Sergio Perez now it's difficult obviously he's trying
[09:31.280 -> 09:35.200] hard to keep it together after the crushing disappointment of going out in
[09:35.200 -> 09:42.160] front of his loving home crowd on lap one of the race. I said look is it good
[09:42.160 -> 09:46.180] that you can get to another Grand Prix, you don't have to dwell
[09:46.180 -> 09:52.880] on it, away from racing for another week before races, so there's not two weeks between races.
[09:52.880 -> 09:53.880] He said, yes, absolutely.
[09:53.880 -> 09:57.580] I'm happy to come here and get back on it.
[09:57.580 -> 10:02.760] The good thing about Checo is that the work that he did in the Red Bull factory that I
[10:02.760 -> 10:10.720] told you about on the notebook a couple of races ago is paying off and all of that work meant that he's
[10:10.720 -> 10:16.160] only been a tenth off max or a tenth and a half in qualifying and has been pretty good in race pace.
[10:16.160 -> 10:21.920] So do I detect that Checo is not going to go for the lead if he you know gets an opportunity
[10:22.480 -> 10:27.140] down into the first corner because it's not his home race and he just wants to finish on the podium to make sure
[10:27.140 -> 10:31.420] everything is you know cushy again and back on the podium and secure kind of I
[10:31.420 -> 10:38.360] still think he is well motivated to show you know a win for Checo would silence
[10:38.360 -> 10:42.940] everything wouldn't it and that was kind of the impression I got from coming away
[10:42.940 -> 10:50.260] from a little chat with him was that he the pace is back and he is able to win so let's see you know if he
[10:50.260 -> 10:55.080] wins nobody will talk to be talking suddenly such as the fashion business
[10:55.080 -> 11:00.360] that Formula One is about Checo Perez not driving in his seat that he has a
[11:00.360 -> 11:15.640] contract for next year as it was I asked I asked him, is it known to you that if you
[11:15.640 -> 11:21.400] finish second in the Drivers' Championship, then all the questions are gone about next
[11:21.400 -> 11:28.100] year? And he said, well look, I have a a contract for next year and where I finish in the championship
[11:28.100 -> 11:30.820] doesn't affect my contract for 2024.
[11:30.820 -> 11:33.120] So I don't know why everybody thinks it does.
[11:34.460 -> 11:38.080] Yes, that's true, but that's not exactly
[11:38.080 -> 11:40.220] the open and shut case that we hear
[11:40.220 -> 11:41.660] from Christian Horner, is it?
[11:42.980 -> 11:45.240] Christian Horner changing his line from
[11:45.680 -> 11:47.880] Checo will absolutely be in the car in 2024
[11:48.200 -> 11:49.160] to the last race.
[11:49.200 -> 11:55.120] It is our intention that Checo Perez will be in the car next year.
[11:55.160 -> 11:57.640] And that can be your intention all day long.
[11:58.520 -> 11:59.680] Doesn't mean you can't change your mind.
[11:59.720 -> 12:00.760] So let's see.
[12:00.880 -> 12:01.600] All right, let's see.
[12:02.160 -> 12:04.640] But he has the speed, so that is positive for Checo.
[12:10.020 -> 12:15.480] Now to Mercedes. Oh, I didn't what the Oscar Piastri who by the way has never driven here and he called the circuit hilly which I liked
[12:15.480 -> 12:19.200] oh it's a bit hilly I slightly teased him and said well that's not a particular
[12:19.200 -> 12:23.880] you know is that F1 engineer speak Oscar you're not you're not doing the
[12:23.880 -> 12:26.000] old F1 engineer speak which would. You're not doing the old F1 engineer speak which would describe
[12:26.000 -> 12:35.280] the circuit as having high vertical undulations. But hilly I think is a nice way to put it.
[12:35.280 -> 12:40.480] Now, George Russell and Lewis Hamilton, these are some interesting things. Mike Elliott,
[12:40.480 -> 12:45.000] so the guy who is a genius aerodynamicist,
[12:45.000 -> 12:48.880] who ran the aero side when they were in their
[12:50.940 -> 12:55.940] halcyon days of the domination between 2014 and 2020,
[12:59.020 -> 13:01.880] he was technical director,
[13:01.880 -> 13:06.880] went up to chief technical officer when James Allison came back down from chief technical officer to technical director, went up to chief technical officer when James Allison came back down
[13:07.440 -> 13:11.280] from chief technical officer to technical director to kind of take the pressure off
[13:11.280 -> 13:18.080] Mike Elliott and now by his choosing, Mike Elliott's choosing, he's left the team. And I asked, look,
[13:18.080 -> 13:26.400] given that it was Mike's car that was the failed concept of the no side pods and how to do the ground effect
[13:26.400 -> 13:36.640] in 2022 and 2023. Does it give the everybody else who wants to go down the Red Bull route
[13:36.640 -> 13:40.880] more latitude knowing that the chief technical officer who kind of championed that car or
[13:40.880 -> 13:48.680] was in charge of it, maybe I've got to choose my words carefully, maybe not championed it but was in overall charge, has now left the company.
[13:48.680 -> 13:55.720] And I was very firmly said, answered no by George Russell, who said that don't
[13:55.720 -> 13:58.760] forget that Mike Elliott was this genius aerodynamicist who did all the stuff
[13:58.760 -> 14:03.200] that I've just told you, and Lewis Hamilton who said no, he was in charge of
[14:03.200 -> 14:05.400] five people who all agreed that that no
[14:05.400 -> 14:10.560] pods and the different concept that Mercedes were on their own with and nobody else chose
[14:10.560 -> 14:14.160] that. Five other people who are the senior people in Mercedes all agreed with him at
[14:14.160 -> 14:17.240] the time. They all thought it's the best way to go. All right. It wasn't. It was a false
[14:17.240 -> 14:20.840] friend what they saw in the in the wind tunnel that they were getting the figures from on
[14:20.840 -> 14:26.400] the aero side. Must have been great viewing and looked good.
[14:26.400 -> 14:29.760] Turned out not to be because of course of the dreaded porpoising.
[14:29.760 -> 14:32.380] But it wasn't Mike's fault directly.
[14:32.380 -> 14:34.520] That was the message from the drivers.
[14:34.520 -> 14:35.920] Lewis said, I'm sad to see Mike go.
[14:35.920 -> 14:39.240] I used to talk to him a lot about aerodynamics with what the car was doing.
[14:39.240 -> 14:44.160] You know, whatever, I know, whatever he goes on to do next, he'll be great.
[14:44.160 -> 14:45.880] But what else did Lewis say?
[14:45.880 -> 14:48.720] I've got the energy to beat Ferrari
[14:48.720 -> 14:51.800] and try and beat Red Bull.
[14:51.800 -> 14:54.640] And I thought this was really interesting from Hamilton.
[14:54.640 -> 14:57.400] He said, whatever I'm doing now is to prepare
[14:57.400 -> 14:59.400] for a championship tilt attempt
[14:59.400 -> 15:02.760] or a championship challenge in 2024.
[15:02.760 -> 15:04.520] So that's the first time I've kind of heard Lewis
[15:04.520 -> 15:08.960] come out and say it. I'm sure he has said it just like Sergio Perez said, look I've been
[15:08.960 -> 15:13.400] saying wherever I finish in the championship has no bearing on my 2024
[15:13.400 -> 15:21.680] seat. Lewis has probably been saying in the past what I'm doing now is kind of I
[15:21.680 -> 15:26.700] want to call it mentally preparing myself myself not resting because he doesn't do
[15:26.700 -> 15:30.440] that but you know mentally preparing myself for a championship challenge next
[15:30.440 -> 15:34.120] year so it was interesting for Hamilton to actually come out and say that that
[15:34.120 -> 15:37.280] now he's not in the championship and it would be nice he says it'd be nice to
[15:37.280 -> 15:41.840] get P2 in the championship but it's not really what he's you know trying to do
[15:41.840 -> 15:46.480] maybe it creates an issue for Red Bull if Hamilton does get P2
[15:46.480 -> 15:52.080] in the championship, so maybe that's advantageous in some kind of way. But anyway, he's more
[15:52.080 -> 15:58.320] concerned and motivated to make sure that Mercedes move two places up in the Constructors
[15:58.320 -> 16:06.600] Championship from, sorry, one place up, from third second and Ferrari are as keen as anything as
[16:06.600 -> 16:10.880] the same way not to go from second to third so that's the fight between
[16:10.880 -> 16:15.280] Ferrari and Mercedes in the Constructors Championship. Anything else from
[16:15.280 -> 16:20.160] Hamilton? No, it's just talking about how he feels very connected to Brazil, he
[16:20.160 -> 16:24.640] feels at home here, he is of course a honorary Brazilian citizen, it's a very
[16:24.640 -> 16:29.820] diverse culture here, such a beautiful place and I love coming here so many different
[16:30.440 -> 16:32.060] so much
[16:32.060 -> 16:33.320] different
[16:33.320 -> 16:37.580] Coming here because he's a Brazilian offering that doesn't make sense. Anyway
[16:38.240 -> 16:44.280] Yeah, and one more pole apparently for Lewis Hamilton here would be more than Senna had at this into Lagos track
[16:44.280 -> 16:51.700] Which I think was he was quite struck by. Lando Norris finally we I put I asked
[16:51.700 -> 16:57.700] him Landinho whether he thought that he'd get back on the podium he said he
[16:57.700 -> 17:01.900] thought he probably could but for all the reasons I said a little bit earlier
[17:01.900 -> 17:07.640] why they might struggle. Right that is about it. I've gone over the 10 minutes as I always do apologies for
[17:07.640 -> 17:14.160] that and I will tell you the last bit of Brazilian hotel news which is the famous
[17:14.160 -> 17:19.160] Transamerica Hotel that the drivers just over the Morumbi Bridge on the way to
[17:19.160 -> 17:27.800] the Interlagos circuit is no more. It's being torn down. So if you know your history, you'll have seen
[17:27.800 -> 17:32.520] throughout the 70s and the 80s, you know, all the drivers used to stay there.
[17:32.520 -> 17:36.860] Bernie Ockerstein used to stay there. There are probably shots, I think, old
[17:36.860 -> 17:41.000] footage of Graham Hill and Jackie Stewart around the pool at the Trans
[17:41.000 -> 17:46.540] America. It's that old. It's kind of the closest big hotel to the track.
[17:46.540 -> 17:48.940] And it's no more, it's being torn down.
[17:48.940 -> 17:53.220] I know, an amazing bit of sort of off-track Formula 1
[17:53.220 -> 17:56.180] history in Sao Paulo is no more.
[17:56.180 -> 17:57.180] Don't know what they're gonna do with it,
[17:57.180 -> 17:59.140] if anybody knows, please leave it in the comments.
[17:59.140 -> 18:00.540] Are there comments in this, in the podcast?
[18:00.540 -> 18:02.000] I don't think so.
[18:02.000 -> 18:03.660] But please let me know somehow,
[18:03.660 -> 18:06.760] because I am quite interested. And Martin Brunder, when he saw
[18:07.240 -> 18:11.280] that the shell is there, tearing down the trans America felt the
[18:11.280 -> 18:13.800] same kind of loss for me. I never stayed there. But used to
[18:13.800 -> 18:16.480] pick up my passes from there, because it also housed the media
[18:16.480 -> 18:20.040] accreditation center was like, I know, can't believe it. They're
[18:20.040 -> 18:22.280] tearing down the trans America. All right, enough about
[18:22.280 -> 18:29.200] Brazilian hotels. We're going to go off into the Brazilian night. Congratulations by the way to James Vowles who with his partner has had
[18:29.200 -> 18:34.560] his first child so great stuff. Congrats to him. He is going to be not missing this race
[18:34.560 -> 18:39.440] through paternity leave but he's doing just the Saturday and the Sunday so whistle trip,
[18:39.440 -> 18:46.000] whistle stop trip after the arrival, happy arrival for James and his partner. He's just coming to the track
[18:46.000 -> 18:50.400] on Saturday and Sunday and then going straight back to change some nappies and do some night
[18:50.400 -> 18:55.920] feeds. And we're off into the Brazilian night. Stay with us for the last sprint race of the year. Yes
[18:55.920 -> 19:01.200] it's the sixth of sixth, the last sprint race of the year. So Friday it's free practice one and
[19:01.200 -> 19:09.800] then qualifying for the Grand Prix. Saturday, come, you know it by now sprint qualifying in the morning and the sprint race in the afternoon and Sunday the Brazilian Grand Prix
[19:09.800 -> 19:16.460] Will it be Max Verstappen, Lando Norris, Lewis Hamilton or George Russell the reigning winner here?
[19:16.680 -> 19:21.380] Doing it again or we might we see a different face on the top of the podium. Join us to find out
[19:21.380 -> 19:23.380] Thanks for listening. Bye. Bye
[19:21.810 -> 19:28.450] of the podium. Join us to find out. Thanks for listening. Bye bye.