Ted's Podbook | Howdy from Austin!

Ted Kravitz is joined by Rachel Brookes to look ahead to the weekend's United States Grand Prix.

There are upgrades for Aston Martin and Mercedes, but what effect will they have? Max Verstappen says Red Bull will not be breaking up a winning team, and there are some interesting comments from Lewis Hamilton about the conditions at the Qatar GP.

The United States Grand Prix weekend at the Circuit of the Americas in Austin, Texas, promises thrilling action and strategic upgrades. Aston Martin and Mercedes bring significant upgrades to their cars, aiming to improve their performance and challenge for podium positions. Fernando Alonso remains optimistic about the team's progress, despite facing challenges in recent races.

Max Verstappen assures that Red Bull will maintain its winning team, dismissing rumors of a potential breakup. He emphasizes the importance of continuity and stability in the team's success. Sergio Perez, on the other hand, seeks redemption after a disappointing Qatar Grand Prix and aims to secure a podium finish alongside Verstappen.

Lance Stroll addresses the recent controversy surrounding his altercation with his trainer, dismissing the rumors of retirement and expressing his commitment to Formula One. Sergio Perez also denies rumors of his potential retirement after the upcoming Mexican Grand Prix.

Helmut Marko, Red Bull's motorsport advisor, confirms his contract extension for next year but remains uncertain about his long-term future with the team. Max Verstappen believes that Red Bull should maintain its winning formula and avoid disrupting the team's success.

Mercedes introduces a significant upgrade to its car, focusing on the floor to generate more downforce. Lewis Hamilton emphasizes the physical demands of the Qatar Grand Prix, highlighting the extreme conditions and the need for elite athleticism among drivers.

Haas also unveils upgrades to its car, drawing inspiration from Red Bull's design. The team hopes to gain insights from Simone Resta, the former Ferrari and Haas designer, who can provide valuable information to Ferrari for next year's car development.

Daniel Ricciardo makes his much-anticipated return to racing after recovering from hand surgery. He undergoes extensive simulator sessions and expresses his excitement for the US Grand Prix. Ricciardo aims to put his focus on racing and deliver strong results for McLaren.

The weekend's schedule includes Free Practice 1 on Friday at 6 pm, qualifying at 9 pm, sprint qualifying on Saturday at 6 pm, the sprint race at 11 pm, and the Grand Prix on Sunday from 6.30 pm, with lights out at 8 pm.

[00:00.000 -> 00:06.520] Hello, or should that be howdy? Good day. Good evening. Hello, partner. And welcome
[00:06.520 -> 00:12.200] back to the Sky Sports F1 podcast feed and to Ted's pod book from Austin, Texas. Yes,
[00:12.200 -> 00:17.840] we're full of all the cliches from the Lone Star State. Howdy, partner. And my partner
[00:17.840 -> 00:22.920] for this pod book is Rachel Brooks. Rachel, would you like to describe where we are and
[00:22.920 -> 00:32.320] what we're doing? And total, total truth for everybody. Full disclosure. Full disclosure. We're in a cab. We are on
[00:32.320 -> 00:39.840] Congress Bridge on South Congress and we are heading to a shopping mall. We are. I'm going to
[00:39.840 -> 00:47.080] buy the shorts which I wear on TV. They are made by a company that does
[00:47.080 -> 00:52.600] organic and sustainable clothing and all the cotton is organic and sustainable
[00:52.600 -> 00:55.960] and that's the shorts I wear. I'm gonna buy some t-shirts as well. What are you
[00:55.960 -> 00:59.200] going to buy? I'm sure the listeners are interested. I'm going to buy some gym
[00:59.200 -> 01:03.720] leggings that I get in America because they're really comfortable and I have
[01:03.720 -> 01:06.920] worn them on air. I wore the same ones when I did the feature
[01:06.920 -> 01:08.400] with Carlos Sainz in Singapore about how
[01:08.400 -> 01:09.520] hot it was around the track.
[01:09.520 -> 01:10.040] Excellent.
[01:10.040 -> 01:12.720] So we're here to tell you what has happened
[01:12.720 -> 01:15.400] on the first day of what is going to be a sprint weekend,
[01:15.400 -> 01:18.720] media day here on the Thursday at the Circuit of the Americas.
[01:18.720 -> 01:20.840] I should also tell you, for proper full disclosure,
[01:20.840 -> 01:24.200] we're being driven by Alfredo in a nice Grand Jeep Cherokee.
[01:24.200 -> 01:30.140] Thank you very much, Alfredo. Alfredo is a Fernando Alonso fan for a very long time. And well, maybe
[01:30.140 -> 01:35.760] we should start off with the news about Fernando Alonso because Alfredo, you'll be keen to
[01:35.760 -> 01:39.440] hear this. Aston Martin are going to have a faster car this weekend than they've had
[01:39.440 -> 01:46.320] recently. They have an upgrade. Nice. Yep. They have the last big upgrade, a couple of teams actually,
[01:46.320 -> 01:51.480] that have the last big upgrade of the season, Mercedes being the other one. And, you know,
[01:51.480 -> 01:55.800] Aston Martin, Rachel, haven't they, for the last few races, while they've been sort of
[01:55.800 -> 01:59.440] scratching around waiting to see where their pace went, have been saying, well, we do have
[01:59.440 -> 02:04.080] things that are coming, and this is the race we're going to see them. Now, Fernando seemed
[02:04.080 -> 02:08.280] to be resigned to the fact that they're going to lose that place in the Constructors'
[02:08.280 -> 02:11.720] Championship to McLaren but he was saying look it's not important. We've
[02:11.720 -> 02:15.400] scored almost 200 points more than we scored last year. We've had more podiums
[02:15.400 -> 02:19.000] than I've actually forgotten about and you know we might get another podium. I
[02:19.000 -> 02:22.120] think they probably will before now in the end of the season but that's not the
[02:22.120 -> 02:27.840] point. The point is how far we've come with the most improved team in the pit lane in Formula One. And that's certainly true. You
[02:27.840 -> 02:32.800] can't take that away from Aston Martin. You can't at all. I think the only reason it sort
[02:32.800 -> 02:37.040] of stands out to us is because they started so well. And when that form dipped, I think
[02:37.040 -> 02:40.800] the surprise with how well they did at the start was followed by the surprise by how much that
[02:40.800 -> 02:44.560] formed it and everyone else caught them. And not only that, overtook them as well.
[02:44.560 -> 02:46.720] And also, I think because we saw different people on the
[02:46.720 -> 02:49.720] podium so we loved seeing Fernando up there it was brilliant to see him up
[02:49.720 -> 02:53.240] there and I think we lost that element as well and it was a little bit too
[02:53.240 -> 02:57.520] predictable so I'm very happy that they've got an upgrade and yeah let's
[02:57.520 -> 03:01.240] battle recommence it would be great to see more battles between second third
[03:01.240 -> 03:07.680] fourth and fifth in the constructors. Alfredo were you willing Fernando on? Did you love seeing him on the podium this year?
[03:07.680 -> 03:10.480] Yep. In the beginning of the year was amazing.
[03:11.200 -> 03:15.040] It was. There was that race Monaco where he possibly could have won.
[03:15.040 -> 03:21.440] Yeah, that was so bad. At least we got like maybe one different driver,
[03:21.440 -> 03:24.960] like not Red Bull in the podium, like winning all the races this year.
[03:24.960 -> 03:30.280] Yeah, where was the other one where I was willing willing Alonso I think it was
[03:30.280 -> 03:34.040] Holland actually it was Zandvoort you remember on the there was the restart
[03:34.040 -> 03:38.520] and yeah we all thought he'd make a lunge didn't we we might go for it and
[03:38.520 -> 03:42.640] oh I'm sure he thought about it well let's see let's see whether whether
[03:42.640 -> 03:49.680] Fernando can do anything more Lance Stroll was in the press conference, was asked about the shove to his trainer, of course he was
[03:50.400 -> 03:55.280] by the media, but he said effectively what he said to you after the last day in Qatar, which is,
[03:55.280 -> 04:00.560] you know, we're cool, I'm cool with my trainer, haven't really gone over it again, and I think
[04:00.560 -> 04:05.240] dismissed. There was some rumour out there that He wasn't gonna you know
[04:05.240 -> 04:10.960] This was enough to put him off Formula One for good and wanted to you know hang up his racing helmet same kind of rumor
[04:10.960 -> 04:16.460] Of Sergio Perez dismissed by both of them Perez. I came out. I actually asked Perez first of all I said
[04:17.240 -> 04:22.820] So, you know just to just to clear things up. You're not retiring in the next race at Mexico. Are you he said no?
[04:22.820 -> 04:26.240] No, I'm not definitely not so yeah, I mean, I don't know.
[04:26.240 -> 04:30.120] What do you find when you see some of these stories that are, you know,
[04:30.440 -> 04:35.980] made up for clicks or whatever online or it's come from a source that no one can confirm or whatever?
[04:35.980 -> 04:40.580] Do you tend to think we shouldn't ask the drivers about it or because it's out there
[04:40.580 -> 04:44.320] you think people have seen it and you think it's our duty, Rachel, to ask them about it?
[04:44.320 -> 04:49.040] I think it's really hard. I think so many people have access to the internet which is
[04:49.040 -> 04:53.440] obviously a good thing however like you say you can't find the original source of a story
[04:53.440 -> 04:57.920] and it used to be that you know you had your trusted sources or somebody spoke to somebody and
[04:57.920 -> 05:03.680] and you you could trust it. I think we do have a duty to put it to them like Max today I put to him
[05:03.680 -> 05:09.760] the line about Helmet Marco and that Max had allegedly, reportedly said, if Helmut leaves I'm leaving.
[05:09.760 -> 05:14.040] It wasn't true, he said it was completely made up, but it also gave him the opportunity
[05:14.040 -> 05:18.240] to say that neither Helmut or Christian are leaving the team, which is what he said to
[05:18.240 -> 05:19.240] me today.
[05:19.240 -> 05:21.480] And I said, what, because you want them there?
[05:21.480 -> 05:24.760] And he said, no, because you don't break up a winning team.
[05:24.760 -> 05:25.760] That's the crucial line for me.
[05:25.760 -> 05:29.400] I mean, I never heard of the Christians not leaving the team.
[05:29.400 -> 05:31.120] He's instrumental in their success.
[05:31.120 -> 05:35.840] But Helmut Marko is 80, you know, 80 pushing 81.
[05:35.840 -> 05:39.120] And he says that he's got a contract for next year.
[05:39.120 -> 05:41.520] He's going to see that out and then see where he is.
[05:41.520 -> 05:45.160] But you know, you can't, I mean, I suppose he could carry on,
[05:45.160 -> 05:47.120] I guess, if he wanted to, beyond,
[05:47.120 -> 05:48.360] hey, there's no reason why he couldn't,
[05:48.360 -> 05:51.640] but he's just enjoying the fruits of his labor, I guess.
[05:51.640 -> 05:54.560] You know, he developed Max Verstappen, he's part of that,
[05:54.560 -> 05:58.520] and yeah, yeah, I think he's, they're all staying.
[05:58.520 -> 06:00.080] Why break up a winning team?
[06:00.080 -> 06:01.200] It doesn't really make sense.
[06:01.200 -> 06:03.160] The end of next year, maybe it might be a different matter.
[06:03.160 -> 06:04.800] But anyway, what else was Max saying
[06:04.800 -> 06:07.800] about actually the racing? Do we expect like has
[06:07.800 -> 06:12.840] been the case recently in the Coast Circuit, the Americas, the Red Bull should go pretty
[06:12.840 -> 06:17.200] well around here? I think so. And I also asked him if it's flat out to the end of the season.
[06:17.200 -> 06:21.640] And he said, yes, absolutely. I think they just want to really stamp their dominance
[06:21.640 -> 06:28.080] on this season, don't they? They're not letting up at all. It'd just be interesting to see whether Checo can join him up on the podium and it's one,
[06:28.080 -> 06:33.440] two, the rest of the way. I think we'd like to see it, but I think Pérez needs it. Sergio
[06:33.440 -> 06:37.200] needs it. Well, Sergio did say that he spent a couple of days with Hubert, his engineer,
[06:37.200 -> 06:42.320] at Red Bull Racing in Tilburg and Milton Keynes for the last, since Qatar, and has found some
[06:42.320 -> 06:47.940] set up directions once they actually went through the data and said, aha, right we changed this, it made the car do this,
[06:47.940 -> 06:52.780] that was wrong. So at least they know what not to do now. And interestingly, I
[06:52.780 -> 06:56.660] mean I go back to what he said to me in Qatar that every time this car has
[06:56.660 -> 07:01.380] changed direction slightly it's towards Max, the way Max drives, and it's away
[07:01.380 -> 07:04.820] from the way he drives and he's had to almost learn the car all over again and
[07:04.820 -> 07:08.880] he said that's what's been holding him back. You're going to build the car around Max
[07:08.880 -> 07:12.240] let's be honest that's what Red Bull have done and he knew that when he joined the team but he said
[07:12.240 -> 07:16.880] I have felt that every time they've taken a step it's a step that's away from how I like to drive
[07:16.880 -> 07:21.120] and I've had to get up to speed again and when I do it changes again and that's part of being a
[07:21.120 -> 07:26.360] racing driver I guess. Okay that's Red Bull. By the way it is another one, because I think this race is
[07:26.360 -> 07:29.880] sponsored by the computer firm, like the last one, it is another one of the
[07:29.880 -> 07:33.120] trophies that lights up in the national flag when you kiss it.
[07:33.120 -> 07:35.600] Ah so when you... okay great okay well...
[07:35.600 -> 07:37.200] They programmed it now for the Dutch flag.
[07:37.200 -> 07:42.840] I would assume so. I mean the promotional material said that they'd taken a
[07:42.840 -> 07:46.040] lip print of all 20 drivers and then
[07:46.040 -> 07:50.360] the trophy will recognise the lip print of the driver when he kisses it, because it's
[07:50.360 -> 07:52.800] as unique as your fingerprint, and that will light up.
[07:52.800 -> 07:57.360] But to be fair, I mean, the top three in Qatar, was it all red, white and blue anyway?
[07:57.360 -> 08:02.520] I mean, they only needed to programme in red, white and blue, really, didn't they?
[08:02.520 -> 08:10.080] Well, no, I think it would have displayed the Union flag or the Australian flag on it had Oscar or Lando won the race as well.
[08:10.080 -> 08:14.640] George Russell, by the way, today, we'll get on to Mercedes now. George Russell was quite flat out
[08:14.640 -> 08:19.840] in saying that Lando Norris was the fastest driver in Qatar a couple of weeks ago. Now,
[08:19.840 -> 08:22.800] I put this to Lando, and he said, well, first of all, it's very nice. Thank you, George,
[08:22.800 -> 08:29.080] both celebrating the 100th Grand Prix in Formula One this weekend. But also, yes, once Lando
[08:29.080 -> 08:34.440] cleared the traffic, he was doing faster lap times than Max, but Max was probably just
[08:34.440 -> 08:39.640] protecting his lead from Oscar behind. But yeah, that McLaren. Well, let's put it, let
[08:39.640 -> 08:45.600] me put it as a question. Do you think that McLaren is going to win a race between now and Abu Dhabi even
[08:45.600 -> 08:51.760] with Max in competition? I'm going to say no. Alfredo says yes out the front in driving us.
[08:51.760 -> 08:57.520] What do you think? I'm going to say yes, the McLaren can, but only if there is a reliability
[08:57.520 -> 09:02.000] fault with Max's car. No, I just said I just qualified that with even still Max in the race.
[09:03.280 -> 09:05.480] I think you're, I think Alfredo, I think you're out on your own on
[09:05.480 -> 09:10.320] this one. I think Max has still got some pace in the pocket, but hey, let's see.
[09:10.320 -> 09:14.200] You say that I want to know, Ted, whether you think we have seen the full potential
[09:14.200 -> 09:17.480] of that Red Bull this year. Have they ever turned it up to 100%?
[09:17.480 -> 09:20.680] Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. There have been times, I can't quite remember them at the moment,
[09:20.680 -> 09:27.880] but there have been times where Max has had to push 100%. Listen, Suzuka, he wanted to win by 20 seconds. I think he was pushing for the
[09:27.880 -> 09:33.280] whole of Suzuka. But the gap is so huge he hasn't needed to. No I know but he
[09:33.280 -> 09:37.280] wanted to after the pain of Singapore, Max wanted to make a statement and he
[09:37.280 -> 09:39.680] told everybody in the team and there were all the boys in the garage I'm
[09:39.680 -> 09:44.800] gonna win this by 20 seconds. In the end he only lost out by 7 tenths of a second.
[09:44.800 -> 09:46.000] Yeah pretty much.
[09:46.000 -> 09:52.640] Anyway, Lewis Hamilton was saying that they've also got an upgrade. So they've got what I think
[09:52.640 -> 09:56.480] they're trying to play down, but they're saying it's a small upgrade, then it turns to a medium
[09:56.480 -> 10:00.800] upgrade, then it turns to a big upgrade. It's the floor, essentially. And given that that's where
[10:00.800 -> 10:08.720] most of the downforce is generated from these ground effect cars, I think that's quite a big upgrade. I'm going to call that quite a big upgrade for Mercedes, but it's the last one
[10:08.720 -> 10:12.880] as Aston Martin before the end of the season. And they've got high hopes as they head towards a sort
[10:12.880 -> 10:16.720] of Red Bull way. I'm not going to say a Red Bull-alike car, because I don't think it is,
[10:16.720 -> 10:20.320] it'll be a Mercedes car and they don't know what Red Bull are going to do next year with their car
[10:20.320 -> 10:26.480] anyway. But it's a Red Bull way of going racing with the design of their
[10:26.480 -> 10:30.840] car. Yeah, it's quite late, isn't it, in the season to make that call. I remember sitting
[10:30.840 -> 10:33.960] down with Toto in Saudi Arabia and he was saying that the car is going to be completely
[10:33.960 -> 10:40.480] different and for it to only now be as close to the red bull design as it will be, that's
[10:40.480 -> 10:45.800] taken a long time. Well, let's ask Toto. Happily, he's back, both knees intact.
[10:45.800 -> 10:46.800] So let's see that.
[10:46.800 -> 10:53.000] Lewis Hamilton was also quite clear about the, were the drivers on the limit physically
[10:53.000 -> 10:55.320] for the Qatar Grand Prix.
[10:55.320 -> 10:59.800] Now maybe you could say this is easy for him because he didn't race in it, but he said,
[10:59.800 -> 11:01.340] let's not get too soft.
[11:01.340 -> 11:08.520] If I was in that race and I would have struggled to get out of the car too. We are the elite athletes in motorsport. We need to be the elite
[11:08.520 -> 11:11.720] athletes. You don't see anyone doing a marathon and stopping because they get
[11:11.720 -> 11:14.400] too hot. Bit of a different thing because I suppose the marathon they're not
[11:14.400 -> 11:19.760] running in 70 degrees effectively. 50, 60, 70 degrees what it is in the cockpit. But
[11:19.760 -> 11:26.180] Lewis said this is an extreme sport. If I had had I don't feel good after the race I
[11:26.180 -> 11:30.740] need yeah I want to feel like I've actually had a hard race and if I don't
[11:30.740 -> 11:35.120] feel good at the end of the race then I need to train harder I want to feel pain
[11:35.120 -> 11:42.580] in my body which is I just I just want to say here by the way I'm trying to
[11:42.580 -> 11:44.940] read Ted's notebook I cannot make out a single word of it I thought my
[11:44.940 -> 11:46.920] handwriting was bad when I write at speed.
[11:46.920 -> 11:50.880] No, I was going to say, Valtteri apparently got out of the car and said he was absolutely
[11:50.880 -> 11:53.200] fine and it's down to all his cycle training.
[11:53.200 -> 11:54.200] Yeah, yeah.
[11:54.200 -> 11:55.200] Which I thought was fascinating.
[11:55.200 -> 11:56.920] Well, he is very, very fit.
[11:56.920 -> 11:59.400] I'm not saying the others aren't, but...
[11:59.400 -> 12:02.640] But the only other thing, we were talking to one driver on the way over here actually
[12:02.640 -> 12:09.540] and he was saying that the team were asking for information from him during that race in Qatar and they were asking for the information every lap and he had to say to them I
[12:09.540 -> 12:15.640] Can only give it to you every five laps because I'm trying to save every bit of energy every bit of mental capacity
[12:16.080 -> 12:21.560] Physical capacity everything to keep this car on the track and they felt it was really really on the limit
[12:22.080 -> 12:25.600] Yeah, okay other tall drivers Alex Albin saying it was on the limit Esteban Ocon saying it really on the limit. Yeah, okay. Other tall drivers, Alex Albon saying it was on the
[12:25.600 -> 12:32.080] limit, Esteban Ocon saying it was on the limit, even Yuki Tsunoda saying it was very, very tough.
[12:32.080 -> 12:38.480] So it's nothing to do with whether you're a tall driver or a more diminutive driver. It's just that
[12:38.480 -> 12:43.440] it was very, very tough out there. Hulkenberg Magnussen, very excited about the car they've got.
[12:44.400 -> 12:49.840] out there. Hulkenberg Magnussen, very excited about the car they've got. It's again a more of a sort of Red Bull like upgrade and the interesting thing for me
[12:49.840 -> 12:57.440] is that with Simone Rester who is the ex Ferrari and Haas designer, he has
[12:57.440 -> 13:01.560] friends in Ferrari even though they are separate entities now but he will be
[13:01.560 -> 13:08.600] able to give Ferrari some kind of insight into what they've done at Haas building more of a Red Bull car which might help Ferrari
[13:08.600 -> 13:13.320] next year especially if Ferrari take him back into the Maranello fold away from
[13:13.320 -> 13:17.520] Haas to help them next year so lots of changes on the Haas this weekend we'll
[13:17.520 -> 13:23.040] see how they go and finally we should say welcome back Daniel Ricciardo that's
[13:23.040 -> 13:29.300] the biggest story for me this weekend welcome back Daniel Ricciardo. That's the biggest story for me this weekend. Welcome back Daniel Ricciardo. The wound, the stitches on the
[13:29.300 -> 13:34.780] hand actually look like they have healed very nicely now. I kind of expect them to
[13:34.780 -> 13:39.300] look a bit more raw. His leather glove of doom is gone. Yep. You see he had the
[13:39.300 -> 13:42.460] leather glove that they were used to. He was wearing a sort of single leather glove
[13:42.460 -> 13:50.880] which was protecting his wound on his left hand. Yes, it's on his left hand. And that's gone and he spent
[13:50.880 -> 13:54.480] hours and hours in the simulator. Didn't feel it was ready for Qatar but does
[13:54.480 -> 14:01.720] feel he's ready now. So it's all good. And did you see the trousers and the boots
[14:01.720 -> 14:05.520] he was wearing today? No, but I did some filming with him yesterday and
[14:05.520 -> 14:09.480] he told me that he he has special boots for this weekend. Yesterday's boots were
[14:09.480 -> 14:14.160] black snakeskin with honey badger on the side. They were custom-made for him and I
[14:14.160 -> 14:16.800] said oh you're wearing those to the track? He said I have another pair for
[14:16.800 -> 14:19.160] tomorrow. I said you've got a different pair for every day haven't you this
[14:19.160 -> 14:24.600] weekend? He loves this place and he yeah just embraces everything about it. Didn't
[14:24.600 -> 14:26.440] arrive on horsey McHorseface?
[14:26.440 -> 14:29.680] No, he said to me I'm going to have a much more low-key entry to the paddock this year.
[14:29.680 -> 14:32.080] He said I just want to get on with the job now.
[14:32.080 -> 14:35.920] And he said I'm not going to stop being fun, but I'm getting my head down and knuckling.
[14:35.920 -> 14:37.440] Knuckling down and getting on with it.
[14:37.440 -> 14:39.320] But I'm not going to arrive on a horse, which he didn't.
[14:39.320 -> 14:41.200] But we hope that you can join us.
[14:41.200 -> 14:44.600] Arrive however you like, on a stagecoach, on a horse, whatever you want.
[14:44.600 -> 14:49.000] Because as well as F1, we've got the F1 Academy, so the finale to their season.
[14:49.000 -> 14:54.000] FP1, if you're listening to this on Friday, which you probably are, because we're recording it late on Thursday evening.
[14:54.000 -> 14:56.800] 6pm for Free Practice 1, qualifying at 9pm.
[14:56.800 -> 15:02.000] Saturday, sprint qualifying 6pm, sprint at 11pm, so join us for that.
[15:02.000 -> 15:06.360] And the Grand Prix from 6.30pm on Sunday evening lights out at
[15:06.360 -> 15:10.760] 8pm. Rachel, thank you very much. Alfredo, thank you very much. We are at the mall, we
[15:10.760 -> 15:15.320] are ready and look forward to having your company throughout the weekend for the US
[15:15.320 -> 15:19.560] Grand Prix from Austin, Texas. Bye Rachel. Bye. Bye Alfredo. Bye.
[15:16.520 -> 15:17.360] I'm out.