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Matt Baker, Nico Rosberg and F1 content creator Aldas join for our latest pod.
They review a thrilling Italian Grand Prix with Max Verstappen winning a record 10th consecutive race and the Ferrari drivers producing an epic battle for the final podium place.
They discuss what Ferrari team principal Frederic Vasseur needs to do going forward after some tense and nervy moments between Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz during the race.
Liam Lawson’s encouraging start is also discussed with his eye-catching performances giving Red Bull a really important decision to make on Daniel Ricciardo next season.
They finish by looking forward to the Singapore Grand Prix with Nico Rosberg revealing the physical challenges drivers face when Formula 1 heads to the Marina Bay Street Circuit.
**Navigating the Thrills and Controversies of the Italian Grand Prix**
The Italian Grand Prix at Monza was a captivating spectacle, marked by thrilling overtakes, strategic battles, and a captivating fight for the final podium spot between Ferrari drivers Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz. The race also brought into focus the pressure on Ferrari team principal Frederic Vasseur, the encouraging performance of Liam Lawson, and the physical challenges drivers face at the Marina Bay Street Circuit in Singapore, the next stop on the Formula One calendar.
**Nico Rosberg, F1 World Champion, and F1 Content Creator Aldis Join the Discussion**
Joining host Matt Baker to dissect the race and delve into the key talking points were Formula One World Champion Nico Rosberg and F1 content creator Aldis. Together, they provided expert analysis and insights throughout the podcast.
**One-Word Race Reviews: Capturing the Essence of Monza**
The podcast began with a fun segment where the participants shared their one-word reviews of the Italian Grand Prix. Nico opted for "thrilling," highlighting the excitement and close racing throughout the event. Aldis chose "history," emphasizing the significance of Max Verstappen breaking the record for consecutive race wins, surpassing Sebastian Vettel's previous mark. Matt, aiming for a more layered response, went with "competitive," capturing the intense battles in the midfield and the overall competitiveness of the race.
**Ferrari's Performance: A Mixed Bag of Emotions**
The discussion then shifted to Ferrari's performance, which was both impressive and bittersweet. Despite securing pole position and giving Max Verstappen a challenge, the team ultimately fell short of victory, with both Red Bulls overtaking them. Nico acknowledged that Ferrari would have preferred more than a third and fourth-place finish, given their strong qualifying performance. Aldis agreed, expressing surprise that it took so long for Verstappen to pass the Ferraris, suggesting that Red Bull may have been holding back initially.
**Leclerc and Sainz: A Heated Battle for the Podium**
The podcast delved into the intense battle between Leclerc and Sainz towards the end of the race, with Nico emphasizing the nerve-wracking nature of such a close fight between teammates. He stressed the importance of proactive management from team principal Fred Vasseur to prevent any potential incidents or escalation of tensions between the drivers.
**Vasseur's Leadership: Building Bridges and Managing Pressure**
Nico highlighted the immense pressure on Vasseur as Ferrari team principal, tasked with rebuilding the team and restoring its winning ways. He suggested that Vasseur should consider having one-on-one conversations with Leclerc and Sainz to address any underlying issues or differing perspectives resulting from the intense battle at Monza. Aldis viewed Vasseur's Italian lessons as a positive step towards assimilating into the Ferrari culture, emphasizing the importance of embracing the team's heritage and language.
**Rating Vasseur's Performance: A Work in Progress**
When asked to rate Vasseur's performance so far, Aldis gave him a 6 out of 10, acknowledging the challenges he inherited and the need for more accountability and less excuses. Nico, on the other hand, gave Vasseur an 8 out of 10, praising his progress within the team and his efforts to establish himself as a strong leader. Matt, taking a more critical stance, rated Vasseur at 10 out of 10, highlighting the need for more immediate results and a reduction in excuses.
**Liam Lawson's Encouraging Start: A Potential Red Bull Dilemma**
The podcast also touched upon Liam Lawson's impressive performances in Formula 2, which have put Red Bull in a difficult position regarding Daniel Ricciardo's future with the team. Nico expressed his admiration for Lawson's talent and suggested that Red Bull may face a tough decision in choosing between him and Ricciardo for the 2024 season.
**Singapore Grand Prix: Physical Challenges Await Drivers**
The discussion concluded with a look ahead to the Singapore Grand Prix, where Nico shared insights into the physical demands drivers face on the Marina Bay Street Circuit. He described the intense heat and humidity, coupled with the stop-and-go nature of the track, as significant challenges that test drivers' endurance and concentration.
**Overall, the podcast provided a comprehensive and engaging analysis of the Italian Grand Prix, offering valuable insights into the key moments, controversies, and performances that shaped the race. The expert perspectives of Nico Rosberg and Aldis, combined with Matt Baker's moderation, made for an informative and entertaining listen for Formula One fans.**
# Formula One Italian Grand Prix Review and Singapore Preview
## Episode Summary:
The podcast delves into the thrilling Italian Grand Prix, where Max Verstappen secured a record-breaking 10th consecutive race win, and Ferrari drivers Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz engaged in an intense battle for the final podium position. The experts analyze the race's key moments and discuss the implications for the rest of the season.
## Key Takeaways:
**1. Verstappen's Dominance Continues:**
- Max Verstappen's remarkable run of victories continues, extending his winning streak to 10 races, a new record in Formula One.
- Red Bull's overall dominance is highlighted, with the team winning 24 out of the last 25 races, further solidifying their position at the top.
**2. Ferrari's Internal Rivalry:**
- The Italian Grand Prix witnessed a tense battle between Ferrari teammates Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz for the final podium spot.
- The incident raises questions about Ferrari's team dynamics and the potential impact on their Constructors' Championship aspirations.
**3. Liam Lawson's Promising Debut:**
- Liam Lawson's impressive performances in his first two Formula One races have caught the attention of experts and fans alike.
- His strong showing in Monza, where he finished ahead of teammate Yuki Tsunoda, has intensified speculation about his future in Formula One.
**4. Singapore Grand Prix Preview:**
- The upcoming Singapore Grand Prix presents a unique challenge for teams and drivers due to its tight and twisty street circuit.
- Nico Rosberg, a former Formula One World Champion, highlights the physical demands of the race, emphasizing the extreme heat and humidity that drivers must endure.
**5. Mercedes' Focus on Next Year:**
- Mercedes' focus has shifted towards the 2024 season, with the team prioritizing development for next year's car.
- The team's recent struggles have led to a sense of urgency, with the goal of returning to the front of the grid in 2024.
**6. Ricciardo's Uncertain Future:**
- Daniel Ricciardo's hand injury has complicated his Formula One future, potentially affecting his chances of securing a seat at Red Bull or AlphaTauri next season.
- Liam Lawson's strong performances have added pressure on Ricciardo, making the decision for Red Bull even more challenging.
**7. The Physical Demands of Singapore:**
- Nico Rosberg vividly describes the extreme physical challenges drivers face during the Singapore Grand Prix.
- The race's high temperatures, humidity, and tight corners make it one of the most demanding races on the Formula One calendar.
**8. Rosberg's 2016 Singapore Victory:**
- Nico Rosberg recalls his 2016 Singapore Grand Prix victory, highlighting the immense pressure he faced during the race.
- The strategic decisions and intense competition made the win particularly memorable for Rosberg.
[00:00.000 -> 00:08.880] Hello all, a very warm welcome to this week's episode of the Sky Sports F1 podcast with
[00:08.880 -> 00:09.880] me Matt Baker.
[00:09.880 -> 00:13.120] I hope you are well and enjoyed a brilliant Italian Grand Prix.
[00:13.120 -> 00:16.960] To help me break that down and look into the big stories, I'm joined by Formula One World
[00:16.960 -> 00:20.560] Champion Nico Rosberg and F1 content creator Aldis.
[00:20.560 -> 00:21.560] Hello to you both.
[00:21.560 -> 00:22.880] Nico, I'll start with you.
[00:22.880 -> 00:24.280] How was your weekend in Monza?
[00:24.280 -> 00:25.080] Yeah, hi to both of you and hi to'll start with you. How was your weekend in Monza?
[00:25.080 -> 00:26.560] Yeah, hi to both of you, and hi to everybody
[00:26.560 -> 00:27.960] who was listening.
[00:27.960 -> 00:29.040] It was very cool.
[00:29.040 -> 00:30.880] I mean, it's always a highlight to be in Monza.
[00:30.880 -> 00:34.080] You know, the Tifosi, the history of the track,
[00:34.080 -> 00:37.200] the track itself, it's always a big challenge
[00:37.200 -> 00:39.480] for the drivers, and the race was so exciting.
[00:39.480 -> 00:42.000] I mean, it was amazing fun to watch.
[00:42.000 -> 00:46.240] So all in all, Ferrari on pole, that was perfect, giving Max Verstappen
[00:46.240 -> 00:49.480] a challenge. I think it was a great weekend.
[00:49.480 -> 00:52.880] Aldis, what about you? How was your weekend? Did you enjoy the race?
[00:52.880 -> 00:58.080] Oh, it was fantastic. I think, despite the Red Bull domination, we kind of knew what
[00:58.080 -> 01:00.920] was coming, I think, on Sunday, especially with Ferrari being a little bit better in
[01:00.920 -> 01:05.960] qualifying. But Monza is always such a special event with the fans and just the atmosphere.
[01:05.960 -> 01:08.960] You can't help not root for Ferrari when you get to Monza.
[01:08.960 -> 01:11.360] But yeah, I think actually the last two races especially
[01:11.360 -> 01:12.760] have been, I think, incredible, you know,
[01:12.760 -> 01:14.720] with Zandvoort, kind of the mixed conditions.
[01:14.720 -> 01:16.800] In Monza, we did get a bit of a battle for the lead,
[01:16.800 -> 01:19.440] which is always amazing, loads of great battles as well.
[01:19.440 -> 01:21.800] So yeah, definitely lots to talk about, which is great.
[01:21.800 -> 01:23.560] Nice to have Formula One back, definitely.
[01:23.560 -> 01:25.520] Definitely, yeah, we've had two cracking races,
[01:25.520 -> 01:27.000] haven't we, since the summer break.
[01:27.000 -> 01:28.880] So 10 wins in a row for Max,
[01:28.880 -> 01:30.600] but perhaps somewhat overshadowed
[01:30.600 -> 01:32.920] by the incredible Ferrari performance in front of the Tifosi.
[01:32.920 -> 01:34.120] So we'll get into all of that,
[01:34.120 -> 01:37.200] but before we do, I want to do our one-word race reviews.
[01:37.200 -> 01:39.480] Now, Nico, I'm nervous about doing this this week,
[01:39.480 -> 01:41.120] because last time we did this,
[01:41.120 -> 01:43.040] you ridiculed me for having a rubbish word.
[01:43.040 -> 01:48.280] So I'm still gonna go last, but I'm gonna come to you first what what's your one-word
[01:48.280 -> 01:54.240] race review for the Italian Grand Prix? I've put you on the spot. Do we have an Italian
[01:54.240 -> 01:58.080] do we have an Italian word that is understandable by English people for
[01:58.080 -> 02:06.240] like thrilling or let's go let's go for thrilling. Yeah perfect perfect, perfect. And why have you picked thrilling?
[02:06.240 -> 02:08.560] Just because of all the overtaking?
[02:08.560 -> 02:11.120] The atmosphere from the fans
[02:11.120 -> 02:12.640] and then the battles on track.
[02:12.640 -> 02:14.720] So many battles on track.
[02:14.720 -> 02:15.640] Yeah, incredible.
[02:15.640 -> 02:17.600] What about you, Aldis?
[02:17.600 -> 02:19.840] I think I'm gonna have to go with history
[02:19.840 -> 02:23.400] just because it's difficult to appreciate it in the moment
[02:23.400 -> 02:25.680] in terms of what Red Bull and Max have done.
[02:25.680 -> 02:31.280] You know, 10 wins straight beating that record that was set by Sebastian Vettel and quite poetic as well.
[02:31.280 -> 02:34.240] Obviously, you know, Seb being a Red Bull, obviously now surpassed by Max.
[02:34.240 -> 02:38.880] But yeah, my word is history because, you know, always regardless of what happens in the future,
[02:38.880 -> 02:43.760] you know, this will be the weekend where Max broke the record and it still feels surreal
[02:43.760 -> 02:45.280] because to do something like that is
[02:45.280 -> 02:50.240] just crazy but the reliability and the speed and the consistency that he's had, yeah, just 10 wins
[02:50.240 -> 02:55.040] straight, it just seems crazy. So yeah, history is my one. I think your word is nicer than my one
[02:55.040 -> 02:59.920] because also the track is so historic and everything, you know, so. It was multi, see, it was a layered
[02:59.920 -> 03:05.000] word, I had lots in it. Okay, right. Drum roll then.
[03:05.000 -> 03:07.000] Hopefully, Nico, you're impressed with this.
[03:07.000 -> 03:10.000] You also have the possibility to skip it if you want, Matt.
[03:10.000 -> 03:12.000] No, no, no. Don't give him that out.
[03:12.000 -> 03:14.000] We can also move on.
[03:14.000 -> 03:15.000] Oh, God, I'm nervous.
[03:15.000 -> 03:18.000] I've gone for competitive, which, look, it still seems underwhelming.
[03:18.000 -> 03:20.000] I feel there should be more wordplay.
[03:20.000 -> 03:22.000] But I thought it was competitive throughout the weekend,
[03:22.000 -> 03:25.120] which I don't think is something we've said all season or for a lot of this season in Formula 1. Ond roeddwn i'n meddwl ei fod yn gymhwysol drwy'r diwethaf, ac nid ydw i'n credu ei fod yn rhywbeth rydyn ni wedi dweud ystod y seswn,
[03:25.120 -> 03:27.360] neu ar gyfer llawer o'r seswn hwn yn F1.
[03:27.360 -> 03:29.160] Roeddwn i'n meddwl ei fod yn cymhwysol rhwng Carlos a Max
[03:29.160 -> 03:30.880] ar gyfer y cyfan 15 o laps,
[03:30.880 -> 03:32.960] ond hefyd yn cymhwysol drwy'r ffyrdd,
[03:32.960 -> 03:35.440] ac rwyf am roi adroddiad arall i Alex Albon
[03:35.440 -> 03:36.440] yn y Williams,
[03:36.440 -> 03:37.960] oherwydd rwy'n credu, pan oedd gennym ni'r cwili,
[03:37.960 -> 03:39.560] roeddem ni'n clywed i'r dyrwyr McLaren
[03:39.560 -> 03:41.680] dweud, na fyddwn ni'n gallu
[03:41.680 -> 03:44.440] gael y Williams o Alex ym mhob ystafell,
[03:44.440 -> 03:50.080] ac roedden nhw'n iawn. Roedd yn gym It was very, very competitive in that midfield and battles everywhere. So yeah,
[03:50.080 -> 03:54.000] competitive. Nico, I think you're going to give me like a five out of 10 or something for that.
[03:54.000 -> 03:58.960] At first I was like, okay, no, this doesn't work. But now you explained it well. And I think it was
[03:58.960 -> 04:03.760] a nice word as well. Okay, thank you very much. Thank you. All right, let's start by talking
[04:03.760 -> 04:06.200] about Ferrari, because I think Ferrari were the big story yesterday,
[04:06.200 -> 04:08.400] despite the records for Max.
[04:08.400 -> 04:10.800] Nico, could they have asked for a better weekend
[04:10.800 -> 04:12.200] in the context of this season,
[04:12.200 -> 04:15.200] in the context of the domination by Red Bull,
[04:15.200 -> 04:17.800] could they have asked for a better weekend?
[04:17.800 -> 04:18.600] Well, I don't know.
[04:18.600 -> 04:21.000] I mean, of course, in the context of the season,
[04:21.000 -> 04:23.000] they would probably have taken a fight with Red Bull
[04:23.000 -> 04:25.000] in the third place and the fourth place at Monza.
[04:25.000 -> 04:30.000] But then once you get into the weekend and you're seeing their speed and they get pole,
[04:30.000 -> 04:36.000] probably they would have wanted a little bit more than to be beaten by both Red Bulls,
[04:36.000 -> 04:39.000] you know, coming through and all of them overtaking them.
[04:39.000 -> 04:45.600] So, but in general, yes, I think they should be quite pleased with the weekend that they had.
[04:45.600 -> 04:49.600] Mm. Aldis, do you think it was the best Ferrari performance of the year so far?
[04:50.600 -> 04:55.100] I think so, because I think Baku was quite close. Obviously, Leclerc was on pole there,
[04:55.100 -> 04:58.100] but Sainz was kind of nowhere that weekend relative to Leclerc.
[04:58.100 -> 05:01.000] This was a strong weekend by the entire team.
[05:01.000 -> 05:02.700] I think Charles was a little bit on the back foot.
[05:02.700 -> 05:04.200] He went a little bit wrong on setup, he said,
[05:04.200 -> 05:08.000] but I think they are going to leave happy in the context of the season. I mean,
[05:08.000 -> 05:12.320] again, Max passed them on lap 15. I was honestly, I was surprised it even took that long. I think
[05:12.320 -> 05:16.080] Max was kind of biding his time and I think GP kind of had to hold him back a little bit to be
[05:16.080 -> 05:21.200] honest at one point. But yeah, I think again, they have to be happy. But it's frustrating as
[05:21.200 -> 05:24.560] like Nico said, when you get pole position, when you get, you know, especially when you have such
[05:24.560 -> 05:25.640] a quick car on that track
[05:25.640 -> 05:29.500] You you want to believe that the win is there and especially for Ferrari at Monza?
[05:29.500 -> 05:32.620] So yeah, I think there will be a small part of them that will be disappointed
[05:32.620 -> 05:38.940] They almost threw it away actually with some really both amazing and also scary battling by both of the drivers at the end of the race
[05:39.320 -> 05:43.700] But I think again context of the season and where they are moving into third in the championship as well
[05:43.700 -> 05:48.360] I think they're gonna leave the weekend happy, if not a little bit disappointed
[05:48.360 -> 05:51.720] because the win, you know, they always would have dreamt of that, especially after Saturday.
[05:51.720 -> 05:57.580] Nico, what about that battle between Carlos and Charles at the end there? I saw footage
[05:57.580 -> 06:04.320] of Charles going up to Fred Vasseur in the paddock and checking his pulse after the race
[06:04.320 -> 06:06.080] because it must have been nervy for the
[06:06.080 -> 06:10.560] Ferrari pit wall, but do you think it was the right decision to allow them to race and to go
[06:10.560 -> 06:18.800] as hard as they did in those final few laps? Right decision, I mean, that's a difficult
[06:18.800 -> 06:24.240] question. For us fans, obviously, yes. For us fans, obviously, yes. Probably for the Ferrari team,
[06:24.160 -> 06:24.880] For us fans, obviously yes. For us fans, obviously yes. Probably for the Ferrari team,
[06:29.600 -> 06:30.240] I'm not sure. I mean, Toto might have said, you know, just hold position now,
[06:35.120 -> 06:41.040] because are they in a close championship fight in the constructors also? I think they are, no? Against them. They are, yeah. So Ferrari at the moment on 228 and then Mercedes on 273. So,
[06:41.600 -> 06:45.680] you know, 50-40 points in it, plenty go so it's it's a close fight and they just
[06:46.240 -> 06:51.360] Martin from that point of view you might have said you might have said hold position because it's such important points today
[06:52.320 -> 06:54.920] In the attempt to still try and beat Mercedes
[06:55.440 -> 06:57.800] But but anyways, yeah for us it was great
[06:57.840 -> 07:01.920] But it was so close to crashing and I mean especially the last one with a big big lock up from Charles
[07:01.920 -> 07:04.000] Wow, that is so close to crashing
[07:04.000 -> 07:09.640] So I was telling I was telling Fred Russell after the race that I really highly recommend that he asks
[07:09.640 -> 07:13.280] both drivers to sit down with him because he has the most authority, that it's not the
[07:13.280 -> 07:17.360] team manager or something, but that it's really the boss.
[07:17.360 -> 07:22.280] And really goes perhaps even first with one, then with the other, and then combined, because
[07:22.280 -> 07:25.180] then you really get the open story from one the other
[07:25.180 -> 07:26.620] uh...
[07:26.620 -> 07:29.520] because it's so important to be proactive because otherwise if
[07:29.520 -> 07:33.120] if one driver or the other in this case it would most be Charles has a bad feeling
[07:33.120 -> 07:34.660] here he can quickly spiral
[07:34.660 -> 07:38.000] that he will think that in the next race hey I'm not going to yield next time or I'm going to do
[07:38.000 -> 07:40.080] the same next time and I'm going to get payback
[07:40.080 -> 07:44.780] uh... so he definitely has to practically manage that and try to be
[07:44.780 -> 07:46.200] supportive and neutral and so he said he was going to do manage that, you know, and try and be supportive and neutral.
[07:46.200 -> 07:48.160] And so he said he was going to do that today.
[07:48.160 -> 07:50.800] It would be nice to be in that room, but not possible.
[07:51.680 -> 07:54.040] Be a fly on the wall in that room, yeah, it'd be incredible.
[07:54.040 -> 07:55.480] And Nico, what's it like?
[07:55.480 -> 07:59.720] I mean, I thought that from the onboard footage, it looked so close.
[07:59.720 -> 08:02.680] It looked, you know, when you're going at 200 miles an hour down those straights,
[08:02.840 -> 08:12.320] wheel to wheel with your with your teammate, what is that like? Take us inside the cockpit. No, it is really, really nail-biting in
[08:12.320 -> 08:25.240] the car as well, because imagine crashing out your Ferrari teammate at Monza, removing the pole, that would have been like, whoa, and it was so close.
[08:25.240 -> 08:27.080] Oh my goodness.
[08:27.080 -> 08:31.600] So it's proper nerve-wracking in the car as well, yeah.
[08:31.600 -> 08:33.120] But at the same time, you're a racer
[08:33.120 -> 08:34.040] and you don't want your teammate
[08:34.040 -> 08:36.520] to end up the race in front of you at Monza
[08:36.520 -> 08:37.760] when you're quicker, you know?
[08:37.760 -> 08:40.800] So, yeah.
[08:40.800 -> 08:41.640] Yeah.
[08:41.640 -> 08:43.260] What if all this had gone the other way?
[08:43.260 -> 08:44.800] What if they had have crashed out?
[08:44.800 -> 08:48.960] Because I think we'd be doing a whole different podcast today, wouldn't we, about how, you know, Fred
[08:48.960 -> 08:55.440] Vasseur has lost control of the drivers, the drivers are leading the Ferrari team.
[08:55.440 -> 08:59.080] I mean, to be honest, they almost did. For me, it wasn't necessarily into turn one. It
[08:59.080 -> 09:04.640] was with about two or three laps to go into turn four. You know, Carlos Sainz outbraked
[09:04.640 -> 09:06.240] himself and overcooked the corner and almost
[09:06.240 -> 09:11.760] took Leclerc with him. I thought that was a very close call with both of those two,
[09:11.760 -> 09:15.200] maybe even over the line by Sainz a little bit because he didn't even make the corner,
[09:15.200 -> 09:20.240] but I think Charles was ready for that. So it was so close to being a disaster. And again,
[09:20.240 -> 09:23.520] we talk about the pressure on Ferrari. If that had happened at Monza,
[09:24.720 -> 09:25.360] they'd be having a very different debrief right now in Maranello. But again, we talk about the pressure on Ferrari. If that had happened at Monza, they'd be having
[09:25.360 -> 09:30.280] a very different debrief right now, you know, in Maranello. So, but again, that's the responsibility
[09:30.280 -> 09:34.240] of the drivers. They have two very high-class drivers. I think for Carlos Sainz, he was
[09:34.240 -> 09:37.920] working so hard at the beginning of the race to kind of stay ahead of Max that he wanted
[09:37.920 -> 09:42.000] that podium. He was just going to hang on to it, you know, for anything, but Leclerc
[09:42.000 -> 09:45.520] did find that pace. But I think that, again, it's down to the drivers. That is your responsibility. And in the end, you know, they were kind of both, you know, really happy. Leclerc did find that pace, but I think that again. It's down to the drivers
[09:45.520 -> 09:49.440] That is your responsibility and in the end you know they were kind of both. You know really happy Leclerc
[09:49.440 -> 09:54.600] I was actually surprised you know he was loving the battle after the race, and you know talking up about their great relationship
[09:54.600 -> 09:58.160] But I guarantee if they crashed he wouldn't be talking about that great relationship
[09:58.160 -> 10:02.760] And I mean this is why she I want to know from from Nico side when you did have those battles of Lewis
[10:03.000 -> 10:10.000] What was it like you know after the race in the debrief there any conversation about, you know, things going over the line with teammates?
[10:10.000 -> 10:27.480] Well, I also, I remember myself in Bahrain, I then said on the, I said after the race, wow, that was the most fun I've ever had in a racing car. But actually, the truth, that was the most far from the truth possible, because the truth was I was was I was seriously angry and seriously hurt
[10:27.480 -> 10:32.200] from finishing second to Lewis and it was zero fun.
[10:32.200 -> 10:37.000] Because we always have to, as race drivers, have to be a bit of Hollywood, you can't always
[10:37.000 -> 10:40.880] say the truth obviously because it's going to backfire otherwise.
[10:40.880 -> 10:49.620] So that's why I was watching Charles, he just got beaten by his teammate who also ran him off the track once in the chicane where Carlos locked up and Charles
[10:49.620 -> 10:54.540] had to do avoiding action and had to go straight as well. And then Charles was sitting there
[10:54.540 -> 11:00.380] and saying, yeah that was super fun, happy days, having a beer with Carlos. And I was
[11:00.380 -> 11:03.860] looking and I was like, is this now genuine or is he pulling a Nico, you know, and saying
[11:03.860 -> 11:05.400] the complete opposite of what he's feeling.
[11:05.400 -> 11:15.100] But I think it was pretty genuine, in which case I was thinking, it's a little bit too, seems a little bit too nice guy somehow.
[11:15.100 -> 11:26.440] Because he already, on the strategy already, he lost out the day before by allowing the team to give Carlos a slipstream twice in the end of qualifying Rather than it being split, you know
[11:26.440 -> 11:32.240] It should have been one person one first run the other person the second run and yet he allowed Carlos to have double slipstream
[11:32.240 -> 11:34.240] in the qualifying already, so
[11:35.000 -> 11:39.280] I'm not sure maybe either he's a super maybe it's just a super nice guy
[11:39.280 -> 11:44.560] And but that would be a little bit too nice. I find I think it's actually all about pressure really quickly in terms of Ferrari
[11:44.560 -> 11:49.720] They're trying to especially after the last especially after the last four or five years, even when they were battling
[11:49.720 -> 11:53.260] for championships, I think everyone on that team is just trying to do their best to kind
[11:53.260 -> 11:56.920] of lower the pressure on every single level, whether that's any tension in the drivers
[11:56.920 -> 12:00.780] that's squashed straight away, any kind of talk about Ferrari struggling or any kind
[12:00.780 -> 12:01.780] of crisis.
[12:01.780 -> 12:04.120] Fred Vasseur is very quickly to kind of support the team.
[12:04.120 -> 12:07.360] So I think it's just that kind of, that, yeah, they're trying to kind of lower
[12:07.360 -> 12:11.280] the pressure as much as they can because at Monza there's enough of it already on Ferrari.
[12:12.400 -> 12:16.960] There certainly is, yeah, understatement maybe, there's, it seems all the pressure. Speaking of
[12:16.960 -> 12:20.960] pressure, I thought it was interesting what Fred Vasseur was saying across the weekend. He came
[12:20.960 -> 12:26.740] into the weekend saying he was just going to treat it as any other normal weekend. You know, it doesn't matter that it's Monza.
[12:26.740 -> 12:29.040] I think he very quickly realized that that's impossible
[12:29.040 -> 12:31.160] to do as a Ferrari team principal.
[12:31.160 -> 12:34.360] Nico, do you think this was a big weekend for Fred Vasseur
[12:34.360 -> 12:36.700] in terms of getting the Tifosi on side,
[12:36.700 -> 12:38.860] giving them something to cheer about this season?
[12:38.860 -> 12:41.200] Do you think this is almost where perhaps the Tifosi
[12:41.200 -> 12:43.240] maybe like really sort of fell,
[12:43.240 -> 12:44.600] not fell in love with Fred Vasseur,
[12:44.600 -> 12:45.240] but became
[12:45.240 -> 12:49.480] more of a fan of him and his methods.
[12:49.480 -> 12:52.960] Probably yes, I think he's building his reputation, yeah.
[12:52.960 -> 12:57.400] But it's the ultimate challenge, isn't it, to be in his position, my goodness, to rebuild
[12:57.400 -> 13:03.920] the Ferrari team with that pressure that's on his shoulders.
[13:03.920 -> 13:10.680] It's really the biggest challenge there is. So I think he's doing well so far, yeah, but a big step to get
[13:10.680 -> 13:13.420] the D'Fosi on his side, a big step I think should be to get the Italian
[13:13.420 -> 13:17.320] learned, so he can speak to them in Italian. And I challenged him on the Sky
[13:17.320 -> 13:22.160] Sports microphone and all he could say was breakfast, so he still has some
[13:22.160 -> 13:26.720] way to go. Probably start with the most important words first.
[13:26.720 -> 13:28.800] He's taking Italian lessons.
[13:28.800 -> 13:31.920] He's taking Italian lessons.
[13:31.920 -> 13:35.320] Maybe he needs you Nico to give him some Italian lessons.
[13:35.320 -> 13:36.320] How weird is that?
[13:36.320 -> 13:40.480] For a French guy to be speaking English to Italian guys and leading the team, that is
[13:40.480 -> 13:41.480] a bit weird.
[13:41.480 -> 13:44.520] Well, on that, do you think that's a genuine issue?
[13:44.520 -> 13:49.520] Do you think that's a real problem that he has to sort out quick if he's going to get the Tifosi onside?
[13:50.160 -> 13:56.560] I think so, yes. I think it would be of high importance to be able to speak Italian from time to time.
[13:57.360 -> 14:03.920] Goodness, that's a lot of pressure to also learn a language and take Ferrari back to the top of Formula 1.
[14:03.920 -> 14:08.480] Aldis, how do you rate Fred Vasseur's time in the job so far?
[14:08.480 -> 14:11.600] You know, obviously we're sort of nearing two-thirds of the way through the season.
[14:11.600 -> 14:12.880] What would you give him out of 10?
[14:14.400 -> 14:17.680] You know, that's actually a really difficult question because it's still very early.
[14:17.680 -> 14:20.960] So much about what's happening this year is based off last year
[14:20.960 -> 14:23.680] because of how late Benotto left the team.
[14:24.320 -> 14:27.920] I think he's done a good job so far but again Ferrari,
[14:27.920 -> 14:30.800] you know, Ferrari wants to win. Even he said I think after the race, yeah third
[14:30.800 -> 14:33.840] is great but they're not looking for third as a
[14:33.840 -> 14:36.560] result, they're looking to win. So I think he's done a good job so far. I
[14:36.560 -> 14:38.400] definitely think, you know, even on the language front
[14:38.400 -> 14:42.000] you have to kind of assimilate to the culture of Ferrari because so much, you
[14:42.000 -> 14:44.000] know, a lot of teams are very multicultural but
[14:44.000 -> 14:47.140] Ferrari is a team where everyone's Italian you know especially there so I
[14:47.140 -> 14:49.960] think the language thing is definitely important I'm actually surprised he
[14:49.960 -> 14:53.740] doesn't speak kind of more Italian yeah but in terms of how you know if you see
[14:53.740 -> 14:56.900] you know I think you said out of 10 I'd give him you know a 6 out of 10 so far
[14:56.900 -> 14:59.980] because he's done a good job but nothing more you know this team is still
[14:59.980 -> 15:03.340] struggling let's not forget this result is great and I think a lot of people
[15:03.340 -> 15:06.200] are gonna forget what happened last right you know the previous race in Zandvoort
[15:06.200 -> 15:09.720] which was a horrible weekend for them you know I think what Carlos Sainz did
[15:09.720 -> 15:13.200] to get to sixth in Zandvoort was actually a really good result so it's an up and
[15:13.200 -> 15:16.160] down it's an up and down kind of season for them there they've been strong on
[15:16.160 -> 15:19.400] the tracks where the car kind of suits the the tracks like again Baku and Monza
[15:19.400 -> 15:22.080] but how they're gonna get in Singapore you know that's that's a completely
[15:22.080 -> 15:26.840] different type of track so I think Fred Vasseur has done a good job to kind of build a hopefully a better environment
[15:26.840 -> 15:29.120] after Benotto and kind of restart things.
[15:29.120 -> 15:32.080] But it's too early to say that he's a massive success or anything like that.
[15:32.080 -> 15:33.760] He needs two, three years in the job, I think.
[15:33.760 -> 15:38.560] But hang on, you called Fred Vasseur, you gave him a six out of ten?
[15:38.560 -> 15:40.760] A six out of ten so far, yeah.
[15:40.760 -> 15:41.760] But that's not fair.
[15:41.760 -> 15:50.000] What do you expect him to do in a couple of months? Turn the whole Ferrari team from a P5-6 to dominating or what?
[15:50.000 -> 15:54.500] At the same time, they've definitely dropped results.
[15:54.500 -> 15:57.000] I think they've definitely under-delivered on certain weekends.
[15:57.000 -> 16:00.500] And that's why I think for him, I get what you mean in terms of what do I expect.
[16:00.500 -> 16:04.500] I'm not saying he should be winning the championship, but I think also with some of the reliability
[16:04.500 -> 16:06.360] and some of the things like the way he's handled the media,
[16:06.360 -> 16:07.360] I think there's just a little bit more
[16:07.360 -> 16:09.040] because I'm seeing more of the excuses,
[16:09.040 -> 16:10.680] you know, like there was last year.
[16:10.680 -> 16:12.720] And I think there needs to be a bit more accountability.
[16:12.720 -> 16:14.440] So, I mean, what would you rate him out of 10?
[16:14.440 -> 16:16.280] Do you think he's done a perfect job?
[16:16.280 -> 16:17.600] Well, at least an eight.
[16:17.600 -> 16:19.640] I mean, he's only had a couple of months.
[16:19.640 -> 16:21.420] What can one expect?
[16:21.420 -> 16:22.260] And from what I see,
[16:22.260 -> 16:24.800] I think he's really making good progress within the team
[16:24.800 -> 16:26.960] and is establishing himself and and
[16:27.680 -> 16:29.240] I
[16:29.240 -> 16:33.680] Would give him an 8 out of 10. Yeah, I think next year's the big one though next year's the big one
[16:33.680 -> 16:35.960] He's had it. He's had an entire season next year
[16:35.960 -> 16:40.160] They're gonna we'll see what we'll see what the car is like, but that's when he'll really have the influence on the team
[16:40.160 -> 16:43.080] So I think next year is the really big one to judge him in my opinion
[16:43.280 -> 16:46.340] Of course, we've only had a couple of months. He can't do miracles
[16:47.560 -> 16:52.680] Although although although James Vowles at Williams has done miracles. Yeah. Yeah
[16:54.680 -> 16:58.140] So maybe I'm gonna tend more towards you again now all this
[16:59.480 -> 17:04.600] No, but because James Vowles at Williams has been amazing. So what he's done is the he's already like
[17:02.480 -> 17:08.040] No, because James Valza Williams has been amazing. So what he's done is he's already reorganized the whole communication within the team, within
[17:08.040 -> 17:14.560] Williams because the aero was not really communicating well with the simulation, with the chassis
[17:14.560 -> 17:18.000] construction side and things, and he's just reorganized the communication and already
[17:18.000 -> 17:22.800] that apparently has really had a big impact in their progress.
[17:22.800 -> 17:24.640] So that's been lovely to see.
[17:24.640 -> 17:28.720] And brought in Pat Fry as well from Alpine. So you talk about, yeah, he's only, sure,
[17:28.720 -> 17:32.000] Fred Vasseur's also only had kind of a similar time, but when you look at VALS, he's brought
[17:32.000 -> 17:36.880] key people from Alpine. I think the way, the culture, Alex Alban has just been even better
[17:36.880 -> 17:40.720] this year. So I do think a team principal, you know, even a short time can still have
[17:40.720 -> 17:42.400] a big effect.
[17:42.400 -> 17:46.080] So how much do you rate, what rating do you give James Vowles?
[17:46.080 -> 17:50.560] Oh James Vowles, I mean 9 out of 10. I've got to leave a bit of room for perfection
[17:50.560 -> 17:54.720] but 9 out of 10 for the way he's kind of, just the environment around Williams, it's
[17:54.720 -> 18:00.120] so great to see them, I think what he's done to build for the future, he's got a big decision
[18:00.120 -> 18:04.180] to make with Logan Sargent which I think is also going to affect his future as well so
[18:04.180 -> 18:09.520] I'm looking forward to seeing what he does with Logan Sargent, which I think is also going to affect his future as well. So I'm looking forward to seeing what he does with Logan. Okay, I'll give him a 10 out of 10. I don't see anything
[18:09.520 -> 18:16.880] he could have done better. I'm a hard taskmaster, clearly. Rate the team principals so far for the
[18:16.880 -> 18:22.560] season. Fascinating, fascinating. Just to bring it back onto Ferrari, I think, and I'm going to
[18:22.560 -> 18:26.000] refer actually to a tweet you did all this over the weekend, that this potentially was quite a I gael y cymaint o'r ffyrdd, rwy'n mynd i'r ffyrdd, a byddwn yn ymwneud â'r tweat
[18:26.000 -> 18:28.000] a wnaethwch chi'n ei wneud ar y diwedd,
[18:28.000 -> 18:30.000] mae'r cyfnod hwn yn ystod y diwedd
[18:30.000 -> 18:32.000] yn eithaf fawr i Ferrari,
[18:32.000 -> 18:34.000] mae'r ffyrdd yn gynnal Aston Martin
[18:34.000 -> 18:36.000] yn y Cyngor Constructors.
[18:36.000 -> 18:38.000] Mae'r ffyrdd ar 228 pwynt,
[18:38.000 -> 18:40.000] Aston a'r ffyrdd ar 217.
[18:40.000 -> 18:42.000] Mae'n golygu pwysau
[18:42.000 -> 18:44.000] y gall ddwy ffyrdd drifoedd
[18:44.000 -> 18:46.280] yn ymwneud â'r pwyntau. Rwy'n mynd i ddweud beth mae'r ddrifoedd of having two drivers who can consistently bring in points. I'm going to tell you what each driver has got between the two.
[18:46.280 -> 18:49.280] So Carlos is on 117, Charles on 111,
[18:49.280 -> 18:54.200] Alonso though is on 170 compared to Stroll on 47.
[18:54.200 -> 18:58.200] So Nico, what do you think or how important is it
[18:58.200 -> 19:01.280] to have two drivers getting points week in, week out?
[19:03.000 -> 19:04.600] No, of course it's fundamental.
[19:04.600 -> 19:08.560] And I'm not really sure what's happened to Lance Stroll there
[19:08.560 -> 19:12.480] because he's a very decent driver. He showed in the beginning of the season how he can
[19:12.480 -> 19:18.320] stay close to Fernando. When Fernando was third, Lance was fifth or sixth. I'm not really
[19:18.320 -> 19:28.960] sure what's happened to him there, but he's really in a difficult phase now. And I think long term for Aston, they can't really allow themselves to have one driver
[19:28.960 -> 19:30.640] who's that far off.
[19:30.640 -> 19:35.200] So either Lance gets back to where he can be and where he should be, or they're going
[19:35.200 -> 19:40.220] to have to start thinking about changing things around there with the second driver.
[19:40.220 -> 19:44.480] Because also, they need someone, I mean, Fernando needs to be pushed.
[19:44.480 -> 19:47.200] The setup work is much better when there's two drivers who are on it.
[19:47.200 -> 19:49.920] It has a whole different dynamic.
[19:49.920 -> 19:53.320] So it's very important to have two drivers who are very quick.
[19:54.480 -> 19:57.320] Can you see, Nico, a situation where, and obviously we know
[19:57.320 -> 20:00.800] Lawrence Stroll, Lance's dad, does own the team.
[20:00.800 -> 20:05.960] So can you ever see a situation where Lawrence is outing his own son from the team?
[20:05.960 -> 20:13.560] It's very impossible for me to judge. Probably it would more be Lance saying, hey, you know
[20:13.560 -> 20:20.000] what, I think I should go and do something else or whatever. If he continues to struggle
[20:20.000 -> 20:27.280] the way he is at the moment, it's a really difficult situation to judge from the outside.
[20:27.280 -> 20:32.040] I think the easiest would be if Lance somehow finds a way back to where he has been and
[20:32.040 -> 20:35.000] where he can be, which is not too far from Fernando.
[20:35.000 -> 20:39.520] Yes, I listened to a lot of his interviews this weekend. He was really despondent. He
[20:39.520 -> 20:45.760] obviously had the FP1 session where Felipe was in the car, then had a mechanical issue in FP2, qualified
[20:45.760 -> 20:51.200] 20th and finished P16. I mean Aldous, you're shaking your head at the very mention of Lance.
[20:51.200 -> 20:55.600] What have you made of his performance so far? I guess in that race, but also across the season.
[20:56.480 -> 21:02.320] I think this weekend, I totally understand him missing FP1 and FP2, but he shouldn't have been
[21:02.320 -> 21:06.160] qualifying last. He's a really experienced Formula One driver. How
[21:06.160 -> 21:10.480] many years has he been in Formula One? Maybe eight years or something? He's driven around Monza
[21:10.480 -> 21:14.480] millions of times, he's scored a podium start on the front row, he knows this track very well,
[21:14.480 -> 21:18.960] he knows the car very well, he should not, even with one practice session, just FP3,
[21:18.960 -> 21:23.280] he should not have been qualifying last in that car. So especially when you know your teammate
[21:23.280 -> 21:28.720] is getting into Q3. So it's been, I'm probably not as high on Lance as perhaps Nico is.
[21:28.720 -> 21:32.240] I think that at the beginning of the season, the gap to Alonso was still quite big.
[21:32.240 -> 21:37.040] I know he was, he was recovering from an injury, of course, but there's, there's just something
[21:37.040 -> 21:41.600] strange about the dynamic of that team, because for a long time, I mean, they've had seven
[21:41.600 -> 21:43.440] podiums and now they've fallen behind.
[21:43.440 -> 21:46.640] They've had more podiums than Ferrari and now they've fallen behind them in the constructors.
[21:46.640 -> 21:48.960] This team, they should be second.
[21:48.960 -> 21:52.720] With two good drivers, they still should be second in the constructors because of their
[21:52.720 -> 21:56.400] amazing start with Fernando, what was it, like six podiums in five races or something.
[21:56.400 -> 21:59.680] So it's, and it's a weird dynamic because, you know, Nico says that,
[21:59.680 -> 22:02.160] oh perhaps it will be Lance who was coming and say, you know,
[22:02.160 -> 22:08.160] maybe it's time for me to do something else, but that shouldn't be the case the case your boss should tell you you're not doing good enough and you need to improve
[22:08.160 -> 22:10.800] Otherwise, you're gonna be out. That's Formula One unless you're obviously, you know
[22:10.800 -> 22:15.640] Well champion and you can say, you know, I'm leaving the sport now like Nico did he has that luxury?
[22:15.640 -> 22:18.480] I don't think Lance should because he's not doing a good enough job
[22:18.480 -> 22:23.520] So but again who's gonna make that decision who is gonna walk into the boss's office and say Lawrence?
[22:23.520 -> 22:24.700] I know you own the team
[22:24.700 -> 22:26.520] I know that you've put so much into it and we do
[22:26.520 -> 22:30.320] have a bright future but your son is now the limiting factor at this team because
[22:30.320 -> 22:34.640] we should be second the constructors with two drivers. I think the
[22:34.640 -> 22:37.460] problem with Lance is that he is a good driver, now don't get me wrong, I think he
[22:37.460 -> 22:41.580] deserves to be in Formula One, I think if he was in a Alfa Romeo or a Haas or
[22:41.580 -> 22:44.940] something, I think that's where his level has been. When he was given a car that
[22:44.940 -> 22:47.680] was the second best car or the third best car on the grid,
[22:47.680 -> 22:52.320] he wasn't able to raise his game. And going into those kind of cars asks you a very different type
[22:52.320 -> 22:56.160] of questions when there's, you know, podiums on the table and he just hasn't been able to
[22:56.160 -> 23:00.640] deliver at that level. So I think that's the problem. He is the limiting factor at the moment
[23:00.640 -> 23:03.680] at Aston Martin. And how long is this going to continue until someone says,
[23:04.320 -> 23:07.400] enough is enough? So I don't know who that person is.
[23:07.400 -> 23:11.760] No, but the problem is it's more it's not Formula One here. It's a father-son relationship
[23:11.760 -> 23:18.520] also. This is that's the challenge. That's the that's what matters here then eventually.
[23:18.520 -> 23:22.880] So it's a different it's a very difficult one. But also, I mean, if Aston was second
[23:22.880 -> 23:29.780] in the constructors, I think that's 30 million or so more in revenues from the TV money share. Something
[23:29.780 -> 23:33.620] like that number if I had to guess now, from second to fourth place in the
[23:33.620 -> 23:38.360] Constructors Championship. So there's a lot of money that's at stake there
[23:38.360 -> 23:41.780] as well. Yeah it's an expensive business having a Formula One team but then also
[23:41.780 -> 23:48.240] having your son in it and not performing? Well actually I think it was an incredible investment in
[23:48.240 -> 23:52.760] hindsight from Laurence Stroll in terms of timing because he buys a team where the
[23:52.760 -> 23:58.520] teams were still very cheap and then the budget comes, cap comes in and teams
[23:58.520 -> 24:03.440] valuations multiply by almost 10 probably and suddenly almost all teams
[24:03.440 -> 24:10.560] on the grid are profitable teams which is I mean an incredible change in F1 for F1 and some of the top
[24:10.560 -> 24:14.680] teams the amount of money they're making is like incredible. And also just quickly
[24:14.680 -> 24:18.400] what Lawrence did to buy Aston Martin, Lagonda, the car brand as well and kind
[24:18.400 -> 24:21.760] of connect that with you know with the car side and the racing side there's a
[24:21.760 -> 24:29.920] lot of exciting things going on at Aston Martin, just the brand and also with the Formula One team as well, but again, there's bigger results
[24:29.920 -> 24:33.920] on the track for them to have and I know you said this is a father-son thing, but business
[24:33.920 -> 24:38.160] has to, you know, this is Formula One, this is not a father and son play thing, so at what point
[24:38.160 -> 24:42.080] does the business kind of side, you know, click into Laurens' head that and say, I'm leaving so
[24:42.080 -> 24:48.160] much money on the table because our drivers aren't good enough. So that's how long can this continue? That's all I that's you know that's all I'm thinking at the
[24:48.160 -> 24:53.760] moment. Time will tell, certainly time will tell. Let's move on to talk about well talk about
[24:53.760 -> 24:58.160] Red Bull in the sense of now it's 10 wins in a row for Max Verstappen which is just an incredible
[24:58.160 -> 25:03.680] achievement. He's won, well sorry Red Bull have won 24 out of the last 25 races. Incredible numbers
[25:03.680 -> 25:05.920] and I think it's also a case of
[25:05.920 -> 25:09.360] it doesn't necessarily look like that's going to change over the next few races. It looks like that
[25:09.360 -> 25:15.120] number could creep up to 11, 12, 13, who knows after that. I've got a tweet here that says which
[25:15.120 -> 25:20.560] circuit is the most likely one where Ferrari and Co could beat Red Bull? Nico, where do you think
[25:21.520 -> 25:24.400] Red Bull are going to struggle? Or where... More the question is...
[25:24.400 -> 25:25.080] We can start with Singapore. We can start with Singapore because it's just such a challenging Where do you think Red Bull are going to struggle? Or where... More the question is...
[25:25.080 -> 25:26.080] We can start with Singapore.
[25:26.080 -> 25:29.760] We can start with Singapore because it's just such a challenging weekend and if it rains
[25:29.760 -> 25:31.800] and things it's such a difficult track.
[25:31.800 -> 25:32.800] A lot of mistakes.
[25:32.800 -> 25:34.320] It's very easy to make mistakes.
[25:34.320 -> 25:35.600] Also qualifying to get that right.
[25:35.600 -> 25:37.280] So I would say Singapore.
[25:37.280 -> 25:40.160] It's high downforce, complete opposite.
[25:40.160 -> 25:42.640] That's probably a good place to start.
[25:42.640 -> 25:47.200] And may I ask Matt, who got the 24 out of 25 wins went to Red Bull?
[25:47.200 -> 25:48.200] Who got the 25th?
[25:48.200 -> 25:48.800] It was Russell.
[25:48.800 -> 25:49.600] It must be George Russell.
[25:49.600 -> 25:50.200] Yeah.
[25:50.200 -> 25:51.400] Sao Paulo.
[25:51.400 -> 25:52.400] Last year, that's it.
[25:52.400 -> 25:57.000] That's from when Leclerc won.
[25:57.000 -> 26:00.400] I mean, just like, just thinking about that, the last time, kind of,
[26:00.400 -> 26:05.000] from when Leclerc won in Austria last year, that seems almost years ago now.
[26:05.000 -> 26:10.720] We've only had one non-Red Bull win and I think yeah in terms of tracks where they might get tripped up
[26:10.980 -> 26:12.980] Singapore is definitely the right answer because
[26:13.720 -> 26:18.880] tricky track like you said if weather comes into it, then it's a bit, you know, then it's a total total unknown
[26:18.880 -> 26:23.820] I think the only one maybe again is kind of maybe Sao Paulo maybe Las Vegas because it's brand new
[26:23.820 -> 26:26.840] So they don't have as much kind of information around that track
[26:26.840 -> 26:31.280] But I mean we're kind of clutching at straws here because Red Bull are so strong
[26:31.280 -> 26:37.140] They're so smart, Max is so consistent and also just in terms of the way the team operates forget about the driver for a second
[26:37.140 -> 26:40.800] They're just they're just really good from top to finish in terms of strategy in terms of pit stops
[26:40.840 -> 26:43.000] Make sure they have all of the data that's available
[26:43.000 -> 26:45.840] So yeah, if anything it's gonna gonna be, I think those tracks,
[26:45.840 -> 26:48.460] you know, the likes of Singapore, Sao Paolo, maybe Vegas,
[26:48.460 -> 26:51.520] but yeah, we're gonna have to wait and see, aren't we?
[26:51.520 -> 26:52.400] We are.
[26:52.400 -> 26:54.200] I thought, Nico, your old boss, Toto,
[26:54.200 -> 26:55.560] was pretty interesting yesterday
[26:55.560 -> 26:57.640] when he was talking about the records
[26:57.640 -> 26:59.180] that Red Bull had broken.
[26:59.180 -> 27:01.520] He said, those numbers, it is for Wikipedia
[27:01.520 -> 27:03.400] and nobody reads that anyway.
[27:03.400 -> 27:07.700] So Nico, take us inside Toto's office. Did he really care about records? I
[27:09.240 -> 27:13.540] Think yeah, that was I think Toto was got on it
[27:13.540 -> 27:19.820] He got in a moment there where where he was not too happy about his own race teams performance on the weekend
[27:20.420 -> 27:21.960] because of course
[27:21.960 -> 27:31.040] Where do they finish fifth and and sixth, no? Fifth and sixth, yeah. So finishing fifth and sixth and miles behind Ferrari and Red Bull is not really the goal.
[27:31.040 -> 27:35.760] So I think Toto was just a bit down there and that made his answer a bit darker
[27:35.760 -> 27:40.000] and not quite as gracious as perhaps he would normally be
[27:40.000 -> 27:46.680] because I think the right answer would have been, yeah, hats off and respect to Red Bull for these achievements.
[27:50.080 -> 27:52.700] But did he care about records when you were racing with him?
[27:52.700 -> 27:55.120] Did he, as you were breaking records, yeah.
[27:55.120 -> 27:57.040] We all care about records, of course,
[27:57.040 -> 27:58.840] and we think a lot about records.
[27:58.840 -> 28:01.200] So even Max, who always says,
[28:01.200 -> 28:03.120] no I don't care about 10 races,
[28:03.120 -> 28:05.640] what does he do when he comes out the car?
[28:05.640 -> 28:08.520] He puts both of his hands up and points to the world
[28:08.520 -> 28:11.120] that that's 10 in a row, yeah?
[28:11.120 -> 28:12.520] And just before, he's been saying,
[28:12.520 -> 28:13.560] oh, no, I don't care about 10,
[28:13.560 -> 28:15.360] I just wanna do a good race weekend.
[28:16.280 -> 28:18.680] So even Max cares about records.
[28:18.680 -> 28:20.600] Yeah, surely, surely every driver does.
[28:20.600 -> 28:22.440] I mean, it's a chance to write yourself in history,
[28:22.440 -> 28:23.280] isn't it?
[28:23.280 -> 28:24.960] Okay, a couple more tweets.
[28:29.200 -> 28:32.800] What, this one from Anthony, which, Nico, I'm sure you got this a lot this weekend. Niko, can you take a selfie with Max in Singapore before the race?
[28:32.800 -> 28:37.600] Oh, yes. This is the curse thing.
[28:37.600 -> 28:38.800] I even tried this weekend.
[28:38.800 -> 28:42.600] I tried to do a neutral background because I thought I don't want to play
[28:42.600 -> 28:44.600] any, cause any problems here.
[28:44.600 -> 28:47.400] Yeah, but you put Forza Ferrari in the caption.
[28:47.400 -> 28:48.400] You cursed Ferrari.
[28:48.400 -> 28:52.680] Yeah okay, Forza Ferrari, because the whole weekend was about that and all of us are wishing
[28:52.680 -> 28:54.920] for Ferrari to win.
[28:54.920 -> 28:59.440] So I thought yeah, so maybe I'm not even allowed to do that then apparently.
[28:59.440 -> 29:02.800] So yes, I understand that I should be taking a picture.
[29:02.800 -> 29:10.160] But that would be a bit like, that would be a bit aggressive If I then take a picture with Max before before a race that would not be cool, I think
[29:10.840 -> 29:12.840] Yeah, but I'll do it anyway
[29:12.880 -> 29:18.520] I'll do it. There we go. There we go. That's the spirit. Are you in Singapore? No, no
[29:18.520 -> 29:22.640] No, I think just one more Qatar now. Oh, okay fine. All right. Well, there we go
[29:22.640 -> 29:28.420] We'll see what happens in Qatar who you you're going to take a photo with. Another tweet, this is from Das, to Nico, if you got
[29:28.420 -> 29:32.300] offered a drive in Red Bull next year, would you take it, even if you were the
[29:32.300 -> 29:38.720] Red Bull second driver? Well I mean would I take it? No, because I'm very happy with
[29:38.720 -> 29:47.960] where I am in my life, but if I was like someone like Alex Albon, it really depends. It's a difficult one, because you know that you're just not
[29:47.960 -> 29:50.440] going to have a chance against Max, because no one in the
[29:50.440 -> 29:52.680] world will have a chance against Max.
[29:52.680 -> 29:56.280] So yes, you have the best car, you can win races, you can be
[29:56.280 -> 30:00.360] in the best team, but do you really accept to put yourself
[30:00.360 -> 30:02.800] into a place where you're going to be a number two?
[30:02.800 -> 30:05.360] That's a decision that you have to ask yourself. Where someone like Daniel, yourself into a place where you're going to be a number
[30:05.360 -> 30:06.360] two?
[30:06.360 -> 30:08.640] That's a decision that you have to ask yourself.
[30:08.640 -> 30:15.520] Where someone like Daniel Ricciardo, who a couple of years ago would never have accepted
[30:15.520 -> 30:20.600] that, by now he's in a place where he says, okay, listen, Max is going to be one of the
[30:20.600 -> 30:25.120] top five of all time in line with Senna, Schumacher, Hamilton,
[30:25.120 -> 30:26.120] Fangio.
[30:26.120 -> 30:30.560] And it would just still be lovely to be back at Red Bull and kind of accept that I probably
[30:30.560 -> 30:34.880] will be more of a number two there.
[30:34.880 -> 30:38.160] So depends on you as a driver.
[30:38.160 -> 30:45.000] I personally would not do it because he has so much experience in that team.
[30:47.120 -> 30:49.820] It's almost impossible for me, even in my prime,
[30:49.820 -> 30:54.100] to go in there and then expect to be able to dominate him.
[30:54.100 -> 30:56.180] That's like not realistic.
[30:56.180 -> 30:59.500] So I would probably not, I would not have done it,
[30:59.500 -> 31:00.880] I don't think.
[31:00.880 -> 31:02.420] I do actually, just to quickly ask Nico,
[31:02.420 -> 31:04.500] if you were in that Red Bull though,
[31:04.500 -> 31:06.640] how do you think you would do relative to Perez then?
[31:06.800 -> 31:09.860] How would you in terms of what he's in terms of what he's been able to achieve?
[31:10.620 -> 31:12.540] well, I mean I
[31:12.540 -> 31:16.340] Put max on the same level as Lewis. So that's how I would do. I
[31:17.240 -> 31:20.360] Mean you went to a title decider with Lewis and won so
[31:21.240 -> 31:24.560] Yeah, so that's how I would that's how I would do. That would be my best guess
[31:25.680 -> 31:26.080] Not bad. Oh, yeah, I think some how I would do. That would be my best guess. Not bad.
[31:26.720 -> 31:28.320] Yeah, I think some of us would love to see that.
[31:28.880 -> 31:30.880] If you do fancy coming out of retirement, Nico.
[31:31.760 -> 31:32.720] Let's forget about that.
[31:32.720 -> 31:33.600] That's a long time ago.
[31:34.960 -> 31:38.400] If you do fancy it, I'm sure there'd be a fair few fans who'd want to see it.
[31:38.400 -> 31:40.560] Okay, let's move on and just talk about Mercedes.
[31:41.120 -> 31:43.040] I've got a tweet here from Jude.
[31:43.040 -> 31:49.480] What are the expectations regarding Mercedes for the rest of the season? Aldis, I'll come to you on this. What are you expecting
[31:49.480 -> 31:51.360] to see from the Silver Arrows?
[31:51.360 -> 31:55.100] I definitely expect them to lock out P2 and the Constructors. I think their driver line-up
[31:55.100 -> 31:59.560] is very strong. I think their car works on a decent, kind of a nice amount of tracks.
[31:59.560 -> 32:03.600] The Ferrari's kind of up and down. And that's kind of all they can because they're focusing
[32:03.600 -> 32:08.480] on next year, for sure. But I think that's the only expectation more podiums from Lewis but they've
[32:08.480 -> 32:11.680] got to secure that P2 in the constructors because their car I think is good enough
[32:11.680 -> 32:15.040] but I'm interested to see what Nico thinks about Mercedes for the rest of the year.
[32:15.840 -> 32:21.040] Well they're fully focused all on next year now therefore it just is what it is now and
[32:21.680 -> 32:25.160] with the car they have yes they can secure second place and
[32:25.160 -> 32:29.920] probably jump Alonso in the Drivers' Championship. I think Lewis should be able to still get
[32:29.920 -> 32:35.200] ahead of him. That's it, I don't think we should expect much more because everybody
[32:35.200 -> 32:37.640] is 100% on next year.
[32:37.640 -> 32:42.960] What's going on then, Nico? Take us inside the factory at Mercedes. What will be the
[32:42.960 -> 32:47.920] conversations, what will be the process in order to get back to the front of the grid next year?
[32:48.360 -> 32:52.000] Well, certainly a lot of it has to be to keep analyzing that Red Bull car,
[32:52.000 -> 32:54.680] because also Christian Horner was telling me after the race that he thinks
[32:54.880 -> 32:56.800] everything is going to be much closer next year
[32:56.800 -> 32:59.480] because everybody's just going to copy their car.
[32:59.480 -> 33:02.920] That was his his thought after the race in Monza.
[33:04.160 -> 33:05.720] And I think all teams need to do that.
[33:05.720 -> 33:09.400] They need to understand exactly what Red Bull is doing there and probably just go down that
[33:09.400 -> 33:14.320] route as much as possible, which is what McLaren has done to some extent.
[33:14.320 -> 33:16.960] It just worked wonders for them straight away.
[33:16.960 -> 33:20.040] Just switched on the car straight away.
[33:20.040 -> 33:22.740] So all teams are going to be trying to do that.
[33:22.740 -> 33:27.120] Also understanding what has McLaren done to make such a jump, because that's been incredible.
[33:27.120 -> 33:29.040] I mean, what a turn of form they've had.
[33:29.040 -> 33:31.460] That's very rare to see that during a season,
[33:31.460 -> 33:32.880] to see such a big jump.
[33:32.880 -> 33:34.480] They've done an exceptional job.
[33:35.480 -> 33:38.480] What's the impact then of the new contracts
[33:38.480 -> 33:39.760] for George and Lewis?
[33:39.760 -> 33:42.560] Do you think that allows Mercedes to have stability
[33:42.560 -> 33:43.380] into next year?
[33:43.380 -> 33:48.720] It now kind of just grounds everyone within the team and says, right, we are fully focused on 2024, we've got our drivers, we've got
[33:48.720 -> 33:54.640] everyone around us, let's go for it. Yeah, sure, I think it just puts stability, calmness, because
[33:55.760 -> 34:00.800] it always leads to uncertainty, even in the leadership. Lewis is not signed yet, it puts
[34:00.800 -> 34:09.320] stress, because what if Lewis suddenly decides I actually prefer to go surfing on the beach? That would be a big problem then, you know. So it does
[34:09.320 -> 34:12.540] put stress, especially probably on someone like Toto, even though he
[34:12.540 -> 34:16.440] wouldn't show it because he's an incredibly good negotiator and
[34:16.440 -> 34:21.000] pretty cold, but inside certainly it puts stress.
[34:21.000 -> 34:26.400] A couple of other stories to wrap up. Liam Lawson, I think we should have a
[34:26.400 -> 34:32.000] quick chat about him because he finished 11th yesterday in the race, which is the highest that
[34:32.000 -> 34:37.040] second Alfa Tauri has finished all season. The best of Ries finished was 12th, Ricciardo managed
[34:37.040 -> 34:44.480] to get his best, it was 13th. So, Aldis, what do you make of Liam Lawson's last two races,
[34:44.480 -> 34:46.720] his debut in Formula One?
[34:46.720 -> 34:50.160] I've been really impressed the way he's hit the ground running. I thought Zandvoort was
[34:50.160 -> 34:55.920] such a, that was a tricky one. That was one of those where if he went off the road, if
[34:55.920 -> 34:58.720] he crashed out in the race because of his inexperience and obviously him making his
[34:58.720 -> 35:03.080] debut, we could have been very easily saying, well, you know, he's obviously a rookie, he's
[35:03.080 -> 35:07.600] not had that experience and loads of the drivers went off, but he had a really professional first race, just focused
[35:07.600 -> 35:11.520] on getting it home, learning what he can, and then this was the weekend to really perform,
[35:11.520 -> 35:14.880] because again, he's been to Monza loads of times, like all drivers, you know, have throughout
[35:14.880 -> 35:18.360] their single-seater careers, he knows the car a little bit more, and I mean, he was
[35:18.360 -> 35:22.800] with Yuki straight away. If that was a Daniel Ricciardo or a Nick De Vries in that car,
[35:22.800 -> 35:25.100] we would have been like, you know, yeah, that's that's what the driver
[35:25.100 -> 35:26.800] That's what that kind of driver should be doing, you know
[35:26.800 -> 35:33.800] But so he looked really professional really like he had been there all season and he is that's a problem for Ricciardo because obviously Ricciardo
[35:33.800 -> 35:35.600] Potentially wants to be in that Red Bull for next year
[35:35.600 -> 35:41.020] If he can't then he wants to be in potentially in the Alpha Tauri and Lawson is really staking a claim that not only should he
[35:41.020 -> 35:44.200] Be in Formula One but potentially in that team. So I'm really excited
[35:44.200 -> 35:47.920] He's a really good driver, obviously fighting for the championship in Super Formula, currently
[35:47.920 -> 35:52.640] second, and he's going to have more races in that car whilst Daniel is still recovering.
[35:52.640 -> 35:56.280] So there is no better place to prove that you should be in Formula One than when you're
[35:56.280 -> 35:58.440] actually in the car whilst another driver is out.
[35:58.440 -> 36:02.880] And I think Red Bull have a really big choice to make out of who should be in their seats
[36:02.880 -> 36:09.040] for next year and someone's going to get left out. Hopefully Lawson, even if he doesn't end up in the Alpha Tauri is still somehow in Formula One
[36:09.280 -> 36:14.360] Maybe there's a deal with Williams where they perhaps will take him instead of Sargent. I don't know but I've been really impressed
[36:14.360 -> 36:15.960] I think yeah
[36:15.960 -> 36:20.200] That's a nice. That's a nice idea all this so so to know that Ricardo at
[36:20.760 -> 36:24.120] Alpha Tauri and then Lawson at Williams that would make a lot of sense
[36:24.120 -> 36:25.440] I think that's
[36:25.440 -> 36:26.440] a good one.
[36:26.440 -> 36:30.160] I just, the only thing with that though is I think Williams, I think they would take
[36:30.160 -> 36:33.720] him because of how impressive he's been but I think they would be cautious of are we just
[36:33.720 -> 36:36.560] developing a driver that you're then going to put in the AlphaTauri that's going to come
[36:36.560 -> 36:40.960] back against us. That's the only thing. I'd want him to not be Red Bull Associated if
[36:40.960 -> 36:44.120] I was James Vowles and would take him in the Williams. That's the only kind of like...
[36:44.120 -> 36:45.000] That's not going I kind of like
[36:48.540 -> 36:49.520] Yeah, exactly, but that's that's for the negotiating table clearly
[36:55.520 -> 36:55.840] Nico what do you think Liam Lawson's last two performances have done for Daniel Ricciardo? Where does that leave him now?
[36:59.620 -> 37:00.240] No, Lawson. First of all, I agree with all this that it was really
[37:06.680 -> 37:08.880] Really a good job, especially in Monza incredible jump in the car and you're how much was he behind and a half tenths or something from Tsunoda, or I think one and a half tenths.
[37:08.880 -> 37:11.360] That's really awesome, because Tsunoda's fast,
[37:11.360 -> 37:12.880] so that's a super drive.
[37:12.880 -> 37:15.380] And then good race, good race pace and everything.
[37:15.380 -> 37:18.360] How unlucky has that been for Daniel though?
[37:18.360 -> 37:20.480] It's incredible, you get this chance to come back
[37:20.480 -> 37:23.560] and you break your hand in a freak accident.
[37:23.560 -> 37:24.600] So unlucky.
[37:24.600 -> 37:27.840] So the latest from Christian Horner is that Daniel will be back in Qatar.
[37:27.840 -> 37:30.880] So he still misses a couple of races and then will be able to come back.
[37:30.880 -> 37:35.280] Because it's quite a, apparently quite a decent break of the hand he's had there.
[37:35.280 -> 37:39.600] So yeah, it makes it difficult.
[37:39.600 -> 37:45.960] But Daniel has such a value to Red Bull and he he's so liked by Red Bull, that they'll definitely be patient
[37:45.960 -> 37:50.160] in giving him a clear chance.
[37:50.160 -> 37:54.080] But I think this break could actually be the difference
[37:54.080 -> 37:57.960] between him getting the shot and replacing Perez next year
[37:57.960 -> 37:59.920] and having another year in Alphatauri.
[37:59.920 -> 38:03.360] I think the hand break could have the effect
[38:03.360 -> 38:06.080] of putting him into one year more in Alfatari.
[38:08.080 -> 38:15.440] Yeah, I find it fascinating that, I mean, what for example, if Liam Lawson has an amazing result,
[38:15.440 -> 38:22.960] say he gets a P4, P5, P6 in the next race, are they really going to bring Daniel Ricciardo back?
[38:22.960 -> 38:26.480] You know, would they still have that goodwill towards Daniel Ricciardo, do you think?
[38:26.480 -> 38:27.480] Yeah, of course.
[38:27.480 -> 38:29.160] Come on, Daniel is Daniel.
[38:29.160 -> 38:32.320] And they would have the whole world against themselves.
[38:32.320 -> 38:33.600] They cannot not bring him back.
[38:33.600 -> 38:37.040] The poor guy broke his hand.
[38:37.040 -> 38:40.840] You cannot then, I mean, no way.
[38:40.840 -> 38:47.000] Or you say you're back in the car for next year, but let's have Liam finish the season because we need to evaluate him now or whatever.
[38:47.000 -> 38:50.000] But you need to have Daniel back at some point.
[38:50.000 -> 38:54.000] Yeah, yeah. Okay, quick look at Singapore before we go.
[38:54.000 -> 38:59.000] Nico, you won there of course in 2016 on your way to the World Championship.
[38:59.000 -> 39:01.000] What do you expect from Singapore?
[39:01.000 -> 39:05.380] I mean, you alluded to it earlier, quality is important but also it's a tricky
[39:05.380 -> 39:09.780] tight track with, you know, we might get some weather. What are your expectations ahead
[39:09.780 -> 39:10.780] of Singapore?
[39:10.780 -> 39:14.620] Singapore is such a difficult track. It's really, really... It has one of the tracks
[39:14.620 -> 39:19.900] with the most corners, I think, in the year as well, just never ending, corner after corner.
[39:19.900 -> 39:28.780] Really difficult to get set up right, to get your tyres working properly. So I'm expecting maybe we can have some surprises also, with some teams suddenly going extremely
[39:28.780 -> 39:33.160] well in a surprising way.
[39:33.160 -> 39:36.760] So no, I think it's going to be refreshing.
[39:36.760 -> 39:38.520] All this looking forward to Singapore?
[39:38.520 -> 39:42.680] Yeah, absolutely, especially off the back of Monza because maybe apart from Monaco,
[39:42.680 -> 39:46.240] you could not have a more different track to Monza.
[39:46.240 -> 39:50.760] So I'm expecting Ferrari to not be as strong, I think Mercedes, I'm expecting actually Aston
[39:50.760 -> 39:58.440] Martin and especially Alonso to be a lot stronger on that kind of track, less kind of high downforce.
[39:58.440 -> 40:00.840] So I'm looking forward to it, it's always a big challenge.
[40:00.840 -> 40:08.360] Last year we had the weather which produced a crazy race, I mean Max off, Lewis off, overtakes and even a few crashes and obviously Checo kind of holding on for
[40:08.360 -> 40:13.480] the win. It's one of those tracks, massive obviously challenge for the drivers. I couldn't
[40:13.480 -> 40:18.200] even begin to imagine how tough it is just physically. Forget about the driving and the
[40:18.200 -> 40:28.320] mental side. So yeah, it's a big challenge and always an amazing venue. So yeah, I look forward to it. Let's touch on the physical side that you just touched.
[40:28.320 -> 40:34.080] So I would lose four, so eight pounds, eight pounds of body weight from sweating in the
[40:34.080 -> 40:35.080] two hours.
[40:35.080 -> 40:40.000] And you're like in your skiing suit, you know, and you're sitting on the asphalt, which is
[40:40.000 -> 40:43.680] 40, 45 degrees.
[40:43.680 -> 40:48.000] And then you have the petrol right behind you which is at 65 degrees or
[40:48.000 -> 40:50.480] something like that so it's just so extremely hot.
[40:50.480 -> 40:51.800] There's no fresh air coming in.
[40:51.800 -> 40:55.920] You have the seatbelts really tight, you have your carbon seat molded to your body so you
[40:55.920 -> 40:58.240] can hardly breathe properly.
[40:58.240 -> 41:01.200] Corner after corner where you have to hold your breath in the corners, you can't breathe
[41:01.200 -> 41:04.280] when you're cornering, you're holding your breath.
[41:04.280 -> 41:08.660] And I will remember that after like 10 laps I would then look at my pit board from my
[41:08.660 -> 41:12.120] mechanics and it would say 50 laps to go.
[41:12.120 -> 41:16.480] And I'm thinking, okay, I'm done, I'm done, I'm 10 laps in, I'm done, and it says 50 laps
[41:16.480 -> 41:17.480] to go.
[41:17.480 -> 41:22.460] And it's also the longest race because unlike Monaco, they keep it at 300 kilometers there,
[41:22.460 -> 41:27.780] so it's also very often close to a two-hour race. It's so horrible, like the feeling in the car
[41:28.360 -> 41:33.100] It's like you're in a sauna on a spinning bike for two hours. Yes, it's horrible
[41:33.100 -> 41:36.020] And then your head is starting to pump within the helmet
[41:37.020 -> 41:40.340] your sweat is dripping down into your eyes and burning and and
[41:40.860 -> 41:45.760] It's really incredibly tough. But then winning it, when you win in that environment,
[41:45.760 -> 41:48.760] Nico, like you did in 2016, it must be even more special
[41:48.760 -> 41:50.800] to know that you've conquered that kind of challenge.
[41:50.800 -> 41:51.640] Yeah, of course, yeah.
[41:51.640 -> 41:54.680] And my 2016 win was ultra high pressure
[41:54.680 -> 41:57.240] because they pitted Lewis behind
[41:57.240 -> 42:00.200] to try and get him back on the podium.
[42:00.200 -> 42:03.000] And that caused a whole like Constantina effect
[42:03.000 -> 42:04.440] where everybody behind me pitted
[42:04.440 -> 42:06.440] and suddenly went on soft new tires.
[42:06.440 -> 42:08.600] But I was the only one who couldn't pit anymore.
[42:08.600 -> 42:11.040] And so I had Ricciardo chasing me down
[42:11.040 -> 42:12.680] and he finished only four tenths,
[42:12.680 -> 42:15.720] four tenths behind me after like it was a
[42:15.720 -> 42:16.800] guaranteed win for me.
[42:16.800 -> 42:20.240] And so that was like a ultra pressure moment
[42:20.240 -> 42:21.360] on my way to the championship.
[42:21.360 -> 42:22.680] Yeah, it was going to be a fascinating race.
[42:22.680 -> 42:24.240] We've got a weekend off of course,
[42:24.240 -> 42:26.400] but we will be back after the Singapore Grand Prix
[42:26.400 -> 42:28.320] to look back at that as well.
[42:28.320 -> 42:30.360] Nico, Aldous, thank you so much for your time.
[42:30.360 -> 42:31.880] Really appreciate it.
[42:31.880 -> 42:33.840] Until next Tuesday, see you then.
[42:33.840 -> 42:35.240] Bye for now.
[42:35.240 -> 42:36.480] Bye-bye.
[42:36.480 -> 42:37.320] Bye-bye.
[42:38.130 -> 42:40.130] Feel it all.