Podcast: Pitstop
Published Date:
Wed, 20 Dec 2023 23:35:00 -0000
Duration:
4134
Explicit:
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Guests:
Théo Pourchaire
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Formula 2 Champion Theo Pourchaire on Pitstop🏆 Merry Christmas everyone. What an amazing episode, Theo had an incredible year with ART in F2 and now has his sights fully set on Formula 1. The Youngest EVER race winner in Formula 3.. The Youngest EVER race winner in Formula 2. In this episode with the 2023 F2 World Champion, we discuss the progression of drivers into F1, Should the F2 champion get a seat in Formula 1? Why the move to Super Formula? & We eat Croissants. To be honest with you all this is one of our favourite episodes we have ever filmed. Theo KEEP on smiling brother!
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# Formula 2 Champion: Théo Pourchaire's Exclusive Interview
## Introduction
- Host: Jake Boys and Fabio Bocca welcome Formula 2 Champion, Théo Pourchaire, to their podcast.
- Pourchaire expresses his excitement for his first-ever podcast interview.
## Winning the Formula 2 Championship
- Pourchaire reflects on his remarkable achievement of winning the Formula 2 Championship in 2022.
- He emphasizes the significance of this victory as the final step before Formula 1 and the high level of competition in Formula 2.
- Pourchaire expresses his gratitude to the AIG Grand Prix team for their exceptional support throughout the season.
## Challenges and Success in Formula 2
- Pourchaire discusses the difficulties he faced during his three seasons in Formula 2, particularly in his first two years when he narrowly missed the championship title.
- He highlights the importance of perseverance and learning from past experiences to achieve success.
- Pourchaire emphasizes the crucial role of maintaining a healthy weight for Formula 2 drivers, given the strict regulations and the need to fit into the car.
## Celebrating the Championship Win
- Pourchaire describes the lively celebration with his team in the garage after securing the championship title.
- He reveals that he drove a Formula 1 car just two days after winning the championship, showcasing his dedication and passion for the sport.
## Formula 1 Aspirations
- Pourchaire expresses his desire to compete in Formula 1 and believes he has the potential to succeed at that level.
- He acknowledges the intense competition for seats in Formula 1 and the need for the right opportunity to arise.
## Transition to Super Formula
- Pourchaire announces his move to Super Formula in 2023, explaining that the lack of Formula 1 opportunities prompted this decision.
- He highlights the benefits of Super Formula, including its high level of competition, quick cars, and the opportunity to continue driving while remaining in close proximity to Europe for potential Formula 1 call-ups.
## Frustration with the Lack of F1 Opportunities for F2 Champions
- Pourchaire expresses his disappointment that the Formula 2 champion is not guaranteed a Formula 1 seat, despite the high level of talent and skill required to win the championship.
- He suggests the need for a solution to ensure that Formula 2 champions have a clear path to Formula 1.
## The Dream of Driving for Ferrari
- Pourchaire admits that driving for Ferrari is his ultimate dream in Formula 1, citing the team's iconic status and the allure of the red cars.
- He recalls his childhood memories of attending the Monaco Grand Prix and rooting for Michael Schumacher in a Ferrari.
## Financial Struggles in Motorsport
- Pourchaire acknowledges the significant financial challenges in motorsport, particularly the escalating costs as drivers progress through the ranks.
- He expresses gratitude for the support he received from his father and the Sauber Academy, which enabled him to pursue his racing career.
- Pourchaire emphasizes the importance of financial support for young drivers to succeed in motorsport.
**Theo Pourchaire's Background and Journey to Formula 2:**
* Began racing at the age of 15 in French F4.
* Won the German F4 Championship in 2019.
* Joined the Sauber Junior Team, which was linked to Charouz Racing.
* Won the French F4 Championship in 2020 with 17 out of 21 wins.
**Formula 2 Career:**
* Competed in Formula 2 for two seasons before winning the championship in 2022.
* Known for his consistency and ability to pick up points race after race.
* Won the championship by focusing on consistency rather than chasing individual race wins.
* Secured the championship with a dominant pole position and race win in the opening round in Bahrain.
* Faced challenges and setbacks, including a brake failure during an F1 test and a major crash in Jeddah.
* Showcased impressive racecraft and overtaking skills, inspired by Fernando Alonso's race starts and overtakes.
**Views on Formula 2 Tracks and the F2 Calendar:**
* Prefers smaller tracks that suit the Formula 2 car better, such as Austin and Mexico.
* Believes the Formula 2 calendar could be improved with more races in America.
* Enjoys racing on tracks like Barcelona, but finds them a bit boring for Formula 2 races.
**Reserve Driver Role and Sauber's Support:**
* Became a reserve driver for Alfa Romeo Sauber F1 Team in 2022.
* Praises Sauber for their unwavering support throughout his career.
* Acknowledges the importance of the reserve driver role in Formula 1.
**Transition to Super Formula in Japan:**
* Will be competing in the Super Formula series in Japan in 2023.
* Excited about the new challenge and the opportunity to race on different tracks.
* Plans to travel to Japan for races and tests, with some pre-season and mid-season testing scheduled.
**Ambitions and Future Goals:**
* Aspires to eventually race in Formula 1.
* Aims to continue learning and improving as a driver in Super Formula.
* Hopes to impress Formula 1 teams with his performances and earn a chance to compete in the pinnacle of motorsport.
**Pit Stop Fastest Lap Challenge:**
* Théo is given a few practice laps to familiarize himself with the simulator.
* He is then given three timed laps to set his fastest time.
* Théo impresses the hosts with his quick adaptation and sets a blistering lap time of 105.244, securing the top spot on the leaderboard.
**Discussion of Théo's Performance:**
* The hosts praise Théo's exceptional performance, highlighting his natural talent and ability to adapt quickly to new environments.
* Théo expresses his satisfaction with his lap time and attributes his success to his dedication and hard work.
**Comparison with Other Drivers:**
* The hosts compare Théo's lap time to those of other notable drivers, including Oscar Piastri, Pietro Fittipaldi, Brad Benavides, Felipe Drugovich, and Matt Gallagher.
* Théo emerges as the fastest among them, further solidifying his position as a rising star in the racing world.
**Théo's Aspirations and Goals:**
* Théo shares his ambitious goal of becoming a Formula 1 driver and competing at the highest level of motorsport.
* He acknowledges the intense competition and challenges he will face but remains optimistic and determined to achieve his dream.
**Théo's Versatility and Adaptability:**
* The hosts discuss Théo's versatility as a driver, highlighting his success in various racing categories, including Formula 2, Formula 3, and karting.
* Théo emphasizes the importance of adaptability and being open to learning new things in order to succeed in different racing environments.
**Théo's Personality and Demeanor:**
* The hosts commend Théo for his positive attitude, infectious smile, and humble demeanor.
* Théo attributes his positive outlook to his upbringing and the support he receives from his family and friends.
**Conclusion:**
* The hosts express their gratitude to Théo for joining the podcast and wish him the best in his future endeavors.
* Théo thanks the hosts for the opportunity and reiterates his commitment to achieving his goals.
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[01:26.960 -> 01:31.280] I'm here. I have a hot chocolate croissant. I'm happy to be here, guys.
[01:36.720 -> 01:39.840] If there was the possibility for me to stay in F2 one more year,
[01:40.480 -> 01:45.160] I'm not sure. The main issue is that the F2 champion needs to have an F1 seat.
[01:45.160 -> 01:48.200] I'm the third one in a row to not be in F1 the next year.
[01:48.200 -> 01:53.000] Right now if you were in an F1 car and it was the same car Oscar was in, do you think you could beat?
[01:53.000 -> 01:54.000] I would beat him.
[01:54.000 -> 01:55.000] You would? Of course!
[01:55.000 -> 01:56.000] Of course Oscar!
[01:56.000 -> 02:05.000] Toyo Porsche, you did the pit stop fastest lap in a five. Five. Five. Five. Five. Five.
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[02:10.000 -> 02:12.000] Welcome to the Pit Stop podcast.
[02:12.000 -> 02:15.360] Ladies and gents, welcome back to Pit Stop once again.
[02:15.360 -> 02:19.240] It's, it is easily the earliest we've ever done a podcast.
[02:19.240 -> 02:22.600] But worth it, because we have a mega guest with us today.
[02:22.600 -> 02:26.000] Ladies and gentlemen, your Formula 2 champion,
[02:26.000 -> 02:27.200] Théo Pochette.
[02:27.200 -> 02:28.040] Let's go!
[02:28.040 -> 02:28.880] Woo!
[02:28.880 -> 02:29.720] Woo!
[02:29.720 -> 02:30.560] Champion!
[02:30.560 -> 02:32.680] Thank you very much.
[02:32.680 -> 02:33.800] It's a pleasure to be here.
[02:33.800 -> 02:34.320] It's good.
[02:34.320 -> 02:34.800] It's good.
[02:34.800 -> 02:36.240] It's a bit early, as you said, but.
[02:36.240 -> 02:37.240] Mate, I won't lie.
[02:37.240 -> 02:38.600] We did, who was it?
[02:38.600 -> 02:40.880] Mark Priestly at 11.30 AM.
[02:40.880 -> 02:42.720] And that felt like the crack of dawn.
[02:42.720 -> 02:44.200] I mean, I've rolled out of bed 10 minutes ago,
[02:44.200 -> 02:48.680] but we can't complain because you've been up since like 5am? Since 5 exactly yeah. It's
[02:48.680 -> 02:54.580] been an early wake up but I'm used to it you know, I'm used to it so it's fine. Good man.
[02:54.580 -> 02:58.220] We appreciate you flying into London just to do the interview, so you're flying straight
[02:58.220 -> 03:03.440] out after. Yeah sure, sure it's good I mean I'm happy to be here, first ever podcast for
[03:03.440 -> 03:05.040] me so. Let's go. It's good, I needed to do it so yeah it's good and'm happy to be here first first ever podcast for me so it's good
[03:05.040 -> 03:09.360] it's I needed to do it so yeah it's good and yeah happy to be here as I said
[03:09.360 -> 03:13.260] what a time to be doing your first ever podcast off the back of Formula 2
[03:13.260 -> 03:18.080] champion how you feeling right now about that? It's amazing for sure I mean
[03:18.080 -> 03:24.120] it's been a very very long season and my goal was to win the the championship for
[03:24.120 -> 03:25.440] sure and now to be the
[03:25.440 -> 03:29.560] Formula 2 champion it feels amazing because I mean Formula 2 is like
[03:29.560 -> 03:34.280] the last step before F1, the level is really really high and yeah I just I
[03:34.280 -> 03:38.320] mean I'm an F2 champion I did it so now I just you know I'm just happy.
[03:38.320 -> 03:41.600] How sick is it to say that you've done it because not a lot of people win it you
[03:41.600 -> 03:48.400] know? Sure sure I mean it's it's a really really tough championship you know I've been competing in this series
[03:48.400 -> 03:53.200] since three years and I mean it was tough you know the first two season and
[03:53.200 -> 03:56.580] I was I was fighting for the championship but uh you know to win it
[03:56.580 -> 04:02.500] it's something special in the last race of the year and it's it was crazy so I'm
[04:02.500 -> 04:05.040] super happy and also to do it with AIG Grand Prix,
[04:05.040 -> 04:07.880] you know, it's a great, great, great story together.
[04:07.880 -> 04:09.800] So great end to our story.
[04:09.800 -> 04:13.120] I can't believe we've actually got the third F2 champion
[04:13.120 -> 04:15.280] because we've had the last three now.
[04:15.280 -> 04:17.520] The leaderboard's really starting to heat up.
[04:17.520 -> 04:18.720] Like there's a lot of pressure on you.
[04:18.720 -> 04:20.200] I was just saying to you before you showed up,
[04:20.200 -> 04:21.560] you know, Oscar was our first guest
[04:21.560 -> 04:23.800] and he had no one else to beat apart from me and him.
[04:23.800 -> 04:26.440] But now you've got a lot of competition on your hands. Sure, sure
[04:26.440 -> 04:30.680] there is some amazing names there and it looks good. Are you good on a sim? Yeah
[04:30.680 -> 04:37.400] I got on the sim, to be honest I don't I don't have a sim at home. Do you not? No I mean I
[04:37.400 -> 04:43.040] drive in the simulator with Sauber like 100 days a year so when I go back home
[04:43.040 -> 04:50.960] and you know I just want to play Call of Duty or FIFA or GTA you know but no sim racing. You excited for the new GTA then?
[04:50.960 -> 04:55.760] You've seen the trailer? For sure, I'm really excited. I was in Japan actually for the
[04:55.760 -> 05:00.160] for the Super Formula Test and there was the trailer I mean I was in the train
[05:00.160 -> 05:06.320] going to Suzuka and I was like I watched the trailer like 10 times. It's okay I will
[05:06.320 -> 05:08.440] for sure buy the game straight away.
[05:08.440 -> 05:11.960] It's quite scary because we figured out we're going to be like 30 by the time that it comes
[05:11.960 -> 05:14.560] out like old man vibe.
[05:14.560 -> 05:17.800] You were like 20 you know when the GTA 5 came out.
[05:17.800 -> 05:18.800] 18.
[05:18.800 -> 05:19.800] 18 yeah.
[05:19.800 -> 05:21.360] I know yeah. How old would you have been?
[05:21.360 -> 05:26.000] I was under 18. It was not legal to play to J5
[05:26.000 -> 05:28.000] but it's ok
[05:28.000 -> 05:30.000] I mustn't forget
[05:30.000 -> 05:32.000] it's Christmas
[05:32.000 -> 05:34.000] so I thought we'd make today's episode a little bit more special
[05:34.000 -> 05:36.000] He's killed it
[05:36.000 -> 05:38.000] I've got a little something here
[05:38.000 -> 05:40.000] A little something
[05:40.000 -> 05:42.000] Let me just open the bag
[05:42.000 -> 05:44.000] Product placement
[05:44.000 -> 05:46.000] Sponsor us please Starbuck Starbucks this is your one chance to
[05:46.000 -> 06:06.000] get it right all right we've all got a lovely hot chocolate La croissant! Good, good! This is the good thing!
[06:06.000 -> 06:08.000] That's the perfect breakfast!
[06:08.000 -> 06:10.000] Just a little snack!
[06:10.000 -> 06:12.000] What do you have to do with it?
[06:12.000 -> 06:14.000] You put it in the hot chocolate a little bit
[06:14.000 -> 06:16.000] and you eat it.
[06:16.000 -> 06:18.000] I do like the way they wrap them, like this actually.
[06:18.000 -> 06:20.000] You do? It almost feels like a present.
[06:20.000 -> 06:22.000] Well, I just know it's clean.
[06:22.000 -> 06:24.000] You're struggling a bit there, Tayo, are you good?
[06:24.000 -> 06:25.120] A little bit.
[06:27.120 -> 06:32.800] Drives an F2 car at hundreds of miles an hour. Yeah, not super good at unwrapping Starbucks hot chocolate.
[06:32.800 -> 06:34.320] Why don't we all dunk it at the same time?
[06:34.320 -> 06:35.760] We'll all have a dunk at the same time.
[06:36.880 -> 06:39.840] I'm so glad this is your first experience of coming on a pod.
[06:39.840 -> 06:40.800] Yeah, sure, sure.
[06:40.800 -> 06:41.360] It's nice.
[06:41.360 -> 06:44.160] I'm not sure every podcast is going to be like this that you do.
[06:44.160 -> 06:44.800] Probably not.
[06:44.800 -> 06:45.960] For sure, for sure., it's nice. I'm not sure every podcast is gonna be like this that you do. Probably not. For sure, for sure.
[06:45.960 -> 06:46.960] But this is nice.
[06:46.960 -> 06:50.160] Look, I'm here, I have hot chocolate and croissant.
[06:50.960 -> 06:51.960] I'm happy to be here, guys.
[06:51.960 -> 06:52.960] But you've gotta rate it.
[06:52.960 -> 06:55.560] So this is probably gonna taste like absolute garbage.
[06:56.160 -> 06:57.720] It's not gonna be like what they've got in France.
[06:57.720 -> 07:00.120] To be honest, look, it's a little bit...
[07:00.120 -> 07:01.120] Yeah, it's...
[07:02.400 -> 07:04.200] It's not the best croissant.
[07:04.200 -> 07:11.280] I'm just looking at the state of it. Yeah. Is it not the best quality? But it's okay, guys. Should we undo it? I've took a bit off. Alright, it's
[07:13.280 -> 07:27.000] Cheers Merry Christmas. Oh Huh. It's... I fooled you right. It's not as good as a croissant in Paris.
[07:27.000 -> 07:28.280] Where the hell?
[07:28.280 -> 07:30.280] This is the worst thing I've ever tasted.
[07:30.280 -> 07:34.160] This croissant is not really good.
[07:34.160 -> 07:35.000] I have to admit it.
[07:35.000 -> 07:36.520] It tastes like a pillow.
[07:36.520 -> 07:37.360] A pillow.
[07:37.360 -> 07:39.400] Like it tastes like what I would sleep with on my bed.
[07:39.400 -> 07:40.800] Well, the hot chocolate is good.
[07:40.800 -> 07:41.760] Yeah, the chocolate's okay.
[07:41.760 -> 07:42.600] A nice one.
[07:42.600 -> 07:43.420] So this is interesting
[07:43.420 -> 07:44.840] because it takes me on to my next question,
[07:44.840 -> 07:45.320] which we were just talking about off camera. I offered you a drink, the chocolate is okay. Nice one. So this is interesting because it takes me on to my next question, which we were just
[07:45.320 -> 07:46.320] talking about off camera.
[07:46.320 -> 07:49.000] I offered you a drink, then you said I just have water.
[07:49.000 -> 07:51.000] You didn't want squash or like anything sweet.
[07:51.000 -> 07:54.620] And so your diet is obviously like mad strict throughout the year.
[07:54.620 -> 07:57.220] And then, you know, does it get to Christmas and you kind of chill out a bit and you eat
[07:57.220 -> 07:58.220] what you want?
[07:58.220 -> 08:04.040] Yeah, I mean, you know, it's strict for sure during the season.
[08:04.040 -> 08:05.720] Not very, very strict.
[08:05.720 -> 08:07.840] I mean, it's not like, I don't know,
[08:07.840 -> 08:12.840] I'm not doing soccer or, you know, like basketball,
[08:13.480 -> 08:17.200] but I need to be careful with my weight for sure
[08:17.200 -> 08:18.480] because I'm tall as well, you know,
[08:18.480 -> 08:19.320] I'm really tall compared to-
[08:19.320 -> 08:20.400] You are really tall.
[08:20.400 -> 08:22.200] How tall are you, 6'1", 6'2"?
[08:22.200 -> 08:26.640] 6'2", I think, 6'2". 190 centimeters.
[08:26.640 -> 08:31.760] So, you know, it's, yeah, I'm tall and I need to be careful with the weight because for sure,
[08:32.400 -> 08:37.760] I already just can fit in the car if I'm a little bit too big.
[08:37.760 -> 08:39.280] Your head's flapping around.
[08:39.280 -> 08:46.280] Exactly. I can go play another sport for sure. But, yeah, it's important. And during the off season, as I said,
[08:46.280 -> 08:49.480] I like to just enjoy a bit more,
[08:49.480 -> 08:52.920] have a hot chocolate with a croissant every morning,
[08:52.920 -> 08:57.560] or just chill a bit for two weeks,
[08:57.560 -> 08:58.720] minimum two weeks,
[08:58.720 -> 09:02.520] and then go back straight into the physical prep.
[09:02.520 -> 09:03.760] As soon as you won the championship,
[09:03.760 -> 09:05.440] what was the party like?
[09:05.440 -> 09:07.720] Because we saw the scenes on TV
[09:07.720 -> 09:10.960] and you were buzzing and the team were buzzing as well.
[09:10.960 -> 09:13.040] Yeah, crazy one, crazy one.
[09:13.040 -> 09:16.720] You know, I think we enjoyed a lot.
[09:16.720 -> 09:18.000] First in the garage.
[09:19.280 -> 09:23.600] We were partying a lot and they turned on the TV
[09:23.600 -> 09:26.880] in the garage and I was like, oh they already did 10 laps,
[09:26.880 -> 09:27.880] the Formula 1 drivers.
[09:27.880 -> 09:33.160] I was like, no way, I don't care about the race, it's ok, we continue the party guys.
[09:33.160 -> 09:35.920] And yeah, it was cool.
[09:35.920 -> 09:43.680] I was driving in F1 on Tuesday, just after the race, but to be honest, we were in the
[09:43.680 -> 09:45.000] nightclub after the race,
[09:45.160 -> 09:47.080] just enjoying a lot.
[09:47.080 -> 09:49.640] I mean, we won the three championships,
[09:49.640 -> 09:51.600] Rookie, Teams and Drivers Championship.
[09:51.600 -> 09:54.880] So everybody was really,
[09:54.880 -> 09:56.040] they wanted to party a lot,
[09:56.040 -> 09:57.120] the mechanics and engineers.
[09:57.120 -> 09:58.600] So it was fun.
[09:58.600 -> 09:59.560] Yeah, that's a really special.
[09:59.560 -> 10:00.400] Was that in Abu Dhabi?
[10:00.400 -> 10:02.120] What were the clubs like out there?
[10:02.120 -> 10:04.080] It's not amazing to be honest.
[10:04.080 -> 10:04.920] Really?
[10:04.920 -> 10:05.000] No, it's better in Europe. I feel like the parties are a lot better in Europe. What are the clubs like out there? It's not amazing to be honest. Really?
[10:05.000 -> 10:09.000] No, it's better in Europe. I feel like the parties are a lot better in Europe.
[10:09.000 -> 10:13.000] I never partied in London, in England.
[10:13.000 -> 10:14.000] You've never been out in London?
[10:14.000 -> 10:15.000] Never.
[10:15.000 -> 10:16.000] We will.
[10:16.000 -> 10:17.000] We will.
[10:17.000 -> 10:20.000] Next time I come back we can party.
[10:20.000 -> 10:24.000] But yeah, Paris, Monaco is fun as well.
[10:24.000 -> 10:26.720] It was okay. Monaco is fun as well. So, it was okay, it was okay.
[10:26.720 -> 10:29.000] But Monaco's an interesting night out.
[10:29.000 -> 10:29.840] We haven't done it yet.
[10:29.840 -> 10:30.660] I'd love to do that.
[10:30.660 -> 10:31.500] I've never even been.
[10:31.500 -> 10:32.340] Yeah, it's crazy.
[10:32.340 -> 10:36.880] I mean, Monaco is, I think, also my home track, almost.
[10:36.880 -> 10:39.080] I don't live in Monaco, but I live near Monaco.
[10:39.080 -> 10:41.400] So yeah, for me, it's very special.
[10:41.400 -> 10:43.800] And to, yeah, win in Monaco,
[10:43.800 -> 10:46.000] it's even more special when you are young like this. You know, it's very special. To win in Monaco is even more special when you are young like this.
[10:46.160 -> 10:50.200] It's a dream. It's a dream for every racing driver.
[10:50.360 -> 10:52.080] The track looks unreal.
[10:52.240 -> 10:54.640] When you drive there for the first time,
[10:54.800 -> 10:57.360] you go on the track and it looks unreal.
[10:57.520 -> 11:00.160] You're like, wow, that's crazy. It's Monaco.
[11:00.320 -> 11:04.520] All the buildings, the boats, the sea, the fans are really close to the track.
[11:04.680 -> 11:08.800] And the track is very difficult and there are so many legendary corners
[11:08.800 -> 11:11.200] and Monaco is special.
[11:11.200 -> 11:16.400] I saw you talking on an interview before F3 and you were saying that you didn't really like street tracks,
[11:16.400 -> 11:20.000] that you would crash or you would struggle on street tracks and stuff like that.
[11:20.000 -> 11:23.800] People spend their whole life trying to just win that race, you know, and you've done it at 17 years old.
[11:23.800 -> 11:24.400] 16?
[11:24.400 -> 11:25.560] 16. 17 years old. 16. 16.
[11:25.560 -> 11:26.380] 17, 17.
[11:26.380 -> 11:27.220] 17.
[11:27.220 -> 11:30.640] I'm the youngest ever race winner in F3 and F2.
[11:30.640 -> 11:31.760] Because Lando had it before, right?
[11:31.760 -> 11:32.960] And you took it off him.
[11:32.960 -> 11:35.880] Yeah, Lando was the youngest race winner before me,
[11:35.880 -> 11:37.880] so it feels special for sure.
[11:37.880 -> 11:39.600] And to do it in Monaco, as I said,
[11:39.600 -> 11:42.000] you know, it's the best place possible.
[11:42.000 -> 11:44.360] In my second race weekend in Formula 2,
[11:44.360 -> 11:45.840] so I mean, it was a crazy weekend in Formula 2 so I mean it
[11:45.840 -> 11:51.000] was it was a crazy weekend and everything happened so so quick and yeah
[11:51.000 -> 11:53.840] that was that was great. Because it was like a home race did you have friends
[11:53.840 -> 11:58.040] and family come and watch you? Wow a lot of friends a lot of family and
[11:58.040 -> 12:07.200] actually I think there was a big flag in the grandstand I I think it was after the swimming pool,
[12:07.200 -> 12:09.100] no, just before the swimming pool chicane,
[12:09.100 -> 12:11.520] there was like a big Théopoche flag,
[12:11.520 -> 12:13.300] and I know the guy who did it,
[12:13.300 -> 12:15.840] is a really good friend of mine,
[12:15.840 -> 12:18.680] and it was crazy, I mean, there was,
[12:18.680 -> 12:20.300] it's all, I mean, there's only,
[12:20.300 -> 12:22.640] almost only French people in the Grandstand in Monaco,
[12:22.640 -> 12:23.980] because it's really close to France,
[12:23.980 -> 12:28.200] and it's like my home race, so it's great. I think your F3 season is a
[12:28.200 -> 12:32.680] special one because we had Oscar on. Was it three points? Three points, yeah.
[12:32.680 -> 12:37.640] So you came second to Oscar Piastri in a crazy F3 year and then there's three
[12:37.640 -> 12:42.720] points between first and second. My question for you is looking back on that
[12:42.720 -> 12:45.160] season now and racing it, you've raced against Oscar
[12:45.160 -> 12:46.880] for a period of time.
[12:46.880 -> 12:49.400] Right now, if you were in an F1 car
[12:49.400 -> 12:51.560] and it was the same car Oscar was in,
[12:51.560 -> 12:53.120] do you think you could beat him?
[12:53.120 -> 12:54.440] I would beat him.
[12:54.440 -> 12:55.280] You would?
[12:55.280 -> 12:56.120] Of course.
[12:56.120 -> 12:57.800] Let's go.
[12:57.800 -> 12:58.800] Of course, Oscar.
[12:58.800 -> 13:03.800] I mean, he's an exceptional racing driver to me
[13:12.000 -> 13:15.760] He's an exceptional racing driver to me because he won the Freca, then F3 and then F2 straight away in his rookie season for the F3 and F2.
[13:15.760 -> 13:20.880] So he's a really talented, very, very talented driver.
[13:20.880 -> 13:26.960] And in F1, I think he was matching Lendo a few times this year. For sure, for sure he was, yeah.
[13:26.960 -> 13:28.960] Exactly, and he won a sprint race.
[13:28.960 -> 13:33.360] So, I mean, he's a really good driver.
[13:33.360 -> 13:38.960] So, of course, I think, you know, I don't know, it's tough to say it like this, but
[13:38.960 -> 13:45.000] I think I can, I believe I'm on his level.
[13:45.920 -> 13:50.320] So I can probably, if I have my chance to drive in F1,
[13:50.320 -> 13:51.840] show my potential.
[13:51.840 -> 13:55.840] I think I already, I'm a F3 vice champion,
[13:55.840 -> 13:57.160] only three points behind him.
[13:57.160 -> 14:00.480] Youngest ever race winner there, same in F2,
[14:00.480 -> 14:01.760] champion now in F2.
[14:02.640 -> 14:04.920] I just need an opportunity to get to F1
[14:04.920 -> 14:05.760] and I will give
[14:05.760 -> 14:11.720] my best for sure but you know it's tough to say if I am able to beat him
[14:11.720 -> 14:15.120] or not. You can prove it today mate on the sim because all the cars are
[14:15.120 -> 14:18.880] the same so you can't even blame it on the car. I'm scared of this simulator I'm
[14:18.880 -> 14:23.880] looking at this simulator since I arrived and I see the lap times I
[14:23.880 -> 14:25.880] don't know it looks good it
[14:25.880 -> 14:29.600] looks good. I find it interesting because you've raced against so many of these
[14:29.600 -> 14:33.440] people but also you're a year younger than Oscar, two years younger
[14:33.440 -> 14:38.600] than Oscar. I think two yeah two or three I think I'm Oscar is like from
[14:38.600 -> 14:43.160] 2000 or something like that. How old are you now? I'm 20. You've always been
[14:43.160 -> 14:45.000] really young in the series you're in.
[14:45.000 -> 14:46.000] Yeah, sure.
[14:46.000 -> 14:49.000] I was almost every time the youngest.
[14:49.000 -> 14:50.000] So that's not easy.
[14:50.000 -> 14:51.000] That was not easy.
[14:51.000 -> 14:57.000] I mean, I struggled a lot of times in Formula 4, F3 or my first two F2 seasons
[14:57.000 -> 15:01.000] because I was lacking a lot of experience.
[15:01.000 -> 15:09.200] And also I was really young and I was struggling a bit to communicate with the
[15:09.200 -> 15:17.260] older people in my team, to express myself. I learned a lot in F2. I think it was a good
[15:17.260 -> 15:28.600] choice in the end to do a third season in F2. Not because I won, but also because I improved myself a lot as a person, but also
[15:28.600 -> 15:32.320] as a racing driver.
[15:32.320 -> 15:40.520] I was, I think, again, one of the sixth youngest again this year in F2, so I'm really young.
[15:40.520 -> 15:41.520] That's crazy.
[15:41.520 -> 15:42.520] I'm just looking at your neck.
[15:42.520 -> 15:43.520] Sorry, mate.
[15:43.520 -> 15:44.520] It's massive, isn't it?
[15:44.520 -> 15:46.000] They've always got giant necks. I didn't train your neck, sorry mate. It's massive, isn't it?
[15:46.000 -> 15:47.000] They've always got giant necks.
[15:47.000 -> 15:49.000] I didn't train the neck since two weeks.
[15:49.000 -> 15:51.000] Really? You're still flexing it though.
[15:51.000 -> 15:52.000] It's looking good.
[15:52.000 -> 15:56.000] Now we've had the big announcement, next season, Super Formula.
[15:56.000 -> 15:58.000] Congrats for that, let's have a clap.
[15:58.000 -> 16:00.000] Thank you very much.
[16:00.000 -> 16:04.000] This is an interesting one for us, because we didn't really know much about Super Formula.
[16:04.000 -> 16:07.200] But then obviously, it's come to light recently because Liam Lawson
[16:07.200 -> 16:10.320] stepped out of Super Formula to take Ricciardo's seat for a bit. So,
[16:10.880 -> 16:14.800] yeah, what's the mindset behind that? We want to know kind of why you're doing that.
[16:15.600 -> 16:21.360] Yeah, I mean, I'm doing this because for sure I don't have an opportunity in F1.
[16:22.880 -> 16:27.620] And I feel like Super Formula is a great I think it's the best
[16:27.620 -> 16:33.620] it was the best option to me after F2. I had opportunities to go to IndyCar
[16:33.620 -> 16:39.180] IndyCar is a great championship as well I like IndyCar a lot I think
[16:39.180 -> 16:45.980] Who wanted you? Sorry? Who wanted you in IndyCar? Yeah I mean... Which team? You can't say? I can't say, I can't say.
[16:45.980 -> 16:49.880] IndyCar is a great championship.
[16:49.880 -> 16:51.700] It's a lot more popular in Europe.
[16:51.700 -> 16:55.200] I feel like in Europe, even in France,
[16:55.200 -> 16:58.500] we are able to see IndyCar on TV.
[16:58.500 -> 17:00.760] Super Formula, it's impossible to watch Super Formula.
[17:00.760 -> 17:03.000] It's really, you know, Japanese championship,
[17:03.000 -> 17:08.880] but the car is much quicker. it's quicker than F2, it's very close to F1 in the
[17:08.880 -> 17:15.280] high-speed corners, there is also a power steering which is close to F1 in terms of
[17:15.280 -> 17:20.760] you know power it's close to F2. You have no power steering in F2 right?
[17:20.760 -> 17:27.160] No power. So that would be different for you. Crazy, crazy different. I mean, it's the opposite to drive.
[17:27.160 -> 17:28.500] It feels really different.
[17:28.500 -> 17:31.880] And you know, the power steering feels like
[17:31.880 -> 17:33.940] when you have a car with a lot of downforce,
[17:33.940 -> 17:35.860] as soon as you touch the steering wheel,
[17:35.860 -> 17:37.320] the car is turning really quick.
[17:37.320 -> 17:39.940] In F2, you have like to force a lot.
[17:39.940 -> 17:41.960] Like the steering wheel is really, really hard.
[17:41.960 -> 17:45.840] And yeah, I mean, it's on that side, it's very different.
[17:46.000 -> 17:48.960] As I said, Super Formula is a great championship.
[17:49.120 -> 17:54.920] Liam drove there this year and he did some really good races.
[17:55.080 -> 17:59.240] When he jumped in the F1 car, he was matching Tunauda.
[17:59.400 -> 18:02.880] He scored points in Singapore, which is crazy.
[18:03.040 -> 18:05.720] In AlphaTauri, AlphaTauri was not so good
[18:05.720 -> 18:12.480] this year. I mean it's proved that I think the super formula is great for
[18:12.480 -> 18:17.640] F2 drivers you know when they cannot race in F2 anymore just to prepare
[18:17.640 -> 18:21.680] the drivers to F1. I imagine if you do an IndyCar you know if you are still
[18:21.680 -> 18:28.320] like a reserve driver or for an F1 team or whatever, it's hard to just dip out of that championship to go to F1 if you had to.
[18:28.320 -> 18:34.000] Sure, and yeah, I mean, IndyCar takes a lot more time, you know, as you say, you know, it's like
[18:34.800 -> 18:38.720] there is a lot more races compared to Super Formula. Super Formula, I think it's about
[18:38.720 -> 18:43.680] seven race weekends, seven, eight race weekends, which is okay. And there is every time like a
[18:43.680 -> 18:47.140] month or two months between the races, which is good.
[18:47.140 -> 18:49.840] So I'm able to come back to Europe,
[18:49.840 -> 18:52.440] do a lot of simulator and yeah,
[18:52.440 -> 18:55.680] go on the F1 races as well with the team to,
[18:55.680 -> 18:57.400] in case they need me, of course,
[18:57.400 -> 18:59.200] I need to be ready to jump in the F1.
[18:59.200 -> 19:01.560] So how often can you be at an F1 race?
[19:01.560 -> 19:04.080] Like someone like Felipe obviously goes to every race,
[19:04.080 -> 19:05.280] you know, so you won't be able to do that.
[19:05.280 -> 19:07.520] I don't think so, not every race,
[19:07.520 -> 19:11.760] but I will try to, I think for the European races
[19:11.760 -> 19:13.760] to stay at the simulator.
[19:13.760 -> 19:17.400] If there is a need to replace a driver,
[19:17.400 -> 19:21.120] I can take the plane and I'm maximum two hours away
[19:21.120 -> 19:24.240] from every European track.
[19:24.240 -> 19:26.920] So this is good. and for the other races
[19:26.920 -> 19:33.420] the overseas races I think I'm probably going to to most of all the F1 races
[19:33.420 -> 19:38.520] like I don't know in Bahrain, Jeddah, Melbourne I think the first
[19:38.520 -> 19:42.040] half of the year I will travel a lot. It's definitely the right move for you I
[19:42.040 -> 19:46.800] think because it means you well like Fab said you're still going to be driving it's very similar to
[19:46.800 -> 19:49.520] F1 but also being 20 you probably don't
[19:49.520 -> 19:53.040] just want to sit around for a year in a in the paddock in the garage
[19:53.040 -> 19:54.960] and not do anything right you'd rather be
[19:54.960 -> 19:59.280] driving. Sure sure for me it was really important to be able to to drive to do
[19:59.280 -> 20:03.920] something. Philippe is doing for example he's
[20:03.920 -> 20:09.400] doing a lot of private tests with Aston Martin, which was another
[20:09.400 -> 20:19.320] option also for me, but Sauber didn't have the possibility to have a car to do private
[20:19.320 -> 20:21.520] tests and to rent also an engine.
[20:21.520 -> 20:23.120] It costs a lot of money.
[20:23.120 -> 20:26.480] It's much more expensive than a Super Formula season.
[20:26.480 -> 20:29.080] So in the end, this was not possible.
[20:29.080 -> 20:32.240] Indy car, not very good.
[20:32.240 -> 20:36.440] And Super Formula, not a lot of races, really quick car.
[20:36.440 -> 20:38.440] Championship level is really high.
[20:38.440 -> 20:40.840] I mean, Japanese drivers, they are really quick.
[20:40.840 -> 20:42.680] They know the tracks really well.
[20:42.680 -> 20:45.280] And I think it can be a great
[20:45.280 -> 20:50.400] experience to me as well, just to see something else out of Europe, out of F1.
[20:50.400 -> 20:51.400] For sure.
[20:51.400 -> 20:52.400] So it's great.
[20:52.400 -> 20:58.960] We love F2, this season arguably it's been better than F1, it's been an amazing F2 season
[20:58.960 -> 21:03.920] and I just wonder from your point of view, do you think it's a bit of a shame that you
[21:03.920 -> 21:06.240] have F2 champions go and win the championship
[21:06.240 -> 21:08.720] and then there's almost like, it's like a dead end.
[21:08.720 -> 21:11.520] It's like, well, now I have to leave the path I'm on.
[21:11.520 -> 21:15.680] Whereas I look at it and I'm like, it's a shame the progression isn't working better.
[21:15.680 -> 21:18.880] You'd think, I would think you win F2, you get an F1 seat.
[21:18.880 -> 21:19.360] Sure.
[21:19.360 -> 21:22.640] That's like how any other league of renters would work.
[21:22.640 -> 21:23.360] Well, that's it.
[21:23.360 -> 21:25.680] You were saying, stay in F2.
[21:25.680 -> 21:28.560] Yeah, I thought from a F2 champions point of view,
[21:28.560 -> 21:31.280] if the offer was there to stay in F2,
[21:31.280 -> 21:33.160] and would you want to stay in F2?
[21:34.200 -> 21:36.400] If there was the possibility for me to stay in F2
[21:36.400 -> 21:39.320] one more year, I'm not sure.
[21:39.320 -> 21:43.320] I'm not sure if it's a possibility,
[21:43.320 -> 21:45.520] you know, to do a fourth season as a champion.
[21:45.520 -> 21:49.440] I guess I kind of just thought maybe in the future if they did make it so you
[21:49.440 -> 21:53.600] could stay in F2 unless you had an F1 seat F2 would then end up with just all
[21:53.600 -> 21:57.480] the amazing winners in it so it actually become a really really good, well it is a
[21:57.480 -> 22:01.240] great series now. Sure sure I agree. It's just a shame there's nowhere for people
[22:01.240 -> 22:05.600] to go I mean like you say about Dragovic we see Dragovic in the paddock and it's a shame.
[22:05.600 -> 22:06.800] He's desperate to be in the car.
[22:06.800 -> 22:07.800] He's desperate.
[22:07.800 -> 22:08.800] The same as you.
[22:08.800 -> 22:12.360] And we had the same conversation with Oscar, you know, it's like, how did you feel during
[22:12.360 -> 22:14.280] that time of doing nothing?
[22:14.280 -> 22:18.240] And they all hated it because you don't really know if you are going to get a seat afterwards.
[22:18.240 -> 22:25.200] Yeah, I think the main issue is that the FT champion probably needs to have an F1 seat.
[22:25.200 -> 22:27.600] For me, I think they need to find a solution.
[22:27.600 -> 22:31.400] I mean, you cannot force any Formula 1 team to choose one driver
[22:31.400 -> 22:34.800] and you cannot tell them, you know, he's F2 champion.
[22:34.800 -> 22:38.800] You have to take him or I don't know, you don't do the season.
[22:38.800 -> 22:41.800] I don't know. It's impossible to say that.
[22:41.800 -> 22:47.280] But I mean, the F2 champion, I think it can bring something to F1.
[22:47.280 -> 22:52.520] You know, if you win F2, you have, I think, the level to drive in F1 for sure.
[22:53.760 -> 22:58.680] I mean, we saw it with Oscar, we saw it with Felipe during the FP1 sessions.
[22:58.680 -> 23:02.680] It was really quick. He's ready to jump in F1.
[23:02.680 -> 23:06.400] But yeah, to be honest, I don't know.
[23:06.400 -> 23:10.120] We need to find a solution because I'm the third one
[23:10.120 -> 23:14.040] in a row to not be in F1 the next year.
[23:14.040 -> 23:15.560] I guess it's all about timing, isn't it?
[23:15.560 -> 23:16.800] It's all about timing.
[23:16.800 -> 23:20.000] And, you know, it's also, I don't know,
[23:20.000 -> 23:21.280] you need to be lucky.
[23:21.280 -> 23:25.160] I don't know, if someone retires from F1,
[23:25.160 -> 23:26.680] you can take his seat or, you know,
[23:26.680 -> 23:29.560] it's like, it's all about that, you know.
[23:29.560 -> 23:31.800] But yeah, at the end of the 2024 year,
[23:31.800 -> 23:34.000] I think a season that there will be,
[23:34.000 -> 23:36.160] I think 14 drivers out of contract.
[23:36.160 -> 23:37.000] A few gaps.
[23:37.000 -> 23:39.400] So this is, this is the opportunity.
[23:39.400 -> 23:42.520] I see. So you've had a few conversations with someone
[23:42.520 -> 23:47.120] and now I know that you're pretty close with Fred Vasseur because of the Salva connection.
[23:47.120 -> 23:48.120] Now he's gone to Ferrari.
[23:48.120 -> 23:50.600] That would be the dream to go straight to Ferrari.
[23:50.600 -> 23:55.640] Well we hear a little something about maybe Carlos Sainz might not have some sort of seat
[23:55.640 -> 23:57.360] at some point.
[23:57.360 -> 24:01.680] If Ferrari has a seat for me, I'm here.
[24:01.680 -> 24:03.400] I'm free guys.
[24:03.400 -> 24:04.400] I'm ready to give everything.
[24:04.400 -> 24:05.000] That would be cool, just to step straight into'm free, I'm free guys. I'm ready to give everything.
[24:05.000 -> 24:08.200] That would be cool, just to step straight into a Ferrari.
[24:08.200 -> 24:13.240] That's the dream, that's the dream. I think for every racing driver, to drive for Ferrari,
[24:13.240 -> 24:19.000] it's amazing. When you walk in the F1 paddock, even if it's not your favourite team, you
[24:19.000 -> 24:27.080] see Ferrari, the red car, the red suits, red garage, everyone in red. It looks amazing. And yeah, Ferrari is the dream for sure.
[24:27.440 -> 24:29.000] Have you been an F1 fan your whole life?
[24:29.000 -> 24:30.800] You've always loved F1.
[24:30.800 -> 24:33.480] Sure, sure. Since day one.
[24:33.640 -> 24:37.040] Because my dad was a big, big fan of most.
[24:37.080 -> 24:42.000] He was a big fan of rally, but he used to like F1 a lot.
[24:42.280 -> 24:47.200] And yeah, I mean, I remember going to the Monaco Grand Prix
[24:47.200 -> 24:48.380] when I was three years old.
[24:48.380 -> 24:50.960] I have pictures, also on my phone I have pictures
[24:50.960 -> 24:54.280] and of me wearing the Ferrari shirts.
[24:54.280 -> 24:55.720] Me too, from Silverstone.
[24:55.720 -> 24:56.560] Exactly.
[24:56.560 -> 24:58.000] When I was about eight years old.
[24:58.000 -> 25:01.060] And I was rooting, apparently I was rooting
[25:01.060 -> 25:02.520] for Michael Schumacher, for sure.
[25:02.520 -> 25:03.360] Yeah, for sure.
[25:03.360 -> 25:06.440] He was the best driver at the time.
[25:06.440 -> 25:10.720] I mean, he was fighting with Alonso and Alonso was winning the championship.
[25:10.720 -> 25:15.440] But you know, the red car, just seeing the red car when you are a kid driving in Monaco
[25:15.440 -> 25:18.440] with the loud engine sounds, it was crazy.
[25:18.440 -> 25:19.760] I can't believe that.
[25:19.760 -> 25:22.360] You've seen that as a kid at three years old and then you've won there.
[25:22.360 -> 25:23.360] Exactly.
[25:23.360 -> 25:24.360] Yeah, of course.
[25:24.360 -> 25:25.760] That is nuts. So what did your dad think of all this?
[25:25.760 -> 25:29.520] Like he must be like, he must go down the pub and tell his mates,
[25:29.520 -> 25:33.280] my son won Monaco last week and they're all like, no he didn't.
[25:33.280 -> 25:40.400] Yeah, I think he's proud, he's proud because in his office there's all my helmets, race suits,
[25:40.400 -> 25:48.000] trophies and he's proud for sure, he's really proud. But I think he wants me to also to reach my dreams
[25:48.000 -> 25:50.240] and you know, he's like me, you know,
[25:50.240 -> 25:54.440] now we just won F2, but now he wants me to get to F1,
[25:54.440 -> 25:58.880] do everything to go to F1 because yeah, it's my dream,
[25:58.880 -> 26:02.560] but it's also, you know, the dream of my family.
[26:02.560 -> 26:05.360] Nice, I'm just gonna hit that dishwasher.
[26:05.360 -> 26:07.520] Once again, we've left the dishwasher on
[26:07.520 -> 26:10.040] while doing a podcast with a racing driver.
[26:10.040 -> 26:11.640] Nice.
[26:11.640 -> 26:14.760] I wanted to bring back your dad,
[26:14.760 -> 26:15.880] because we were talking about him a bit,
[26:15.880 -> 26:17.680] and it's always a weird subject,
[26:17.680 -> 26:21.300] but I think people at home would want to know,
[26:21.300 -> 26:23.520] because you have a lot of variation in motorsport.
[26:23.520 -> 26:26.680] You have a lot of people who come from wealthy background,
[26:26.680 -> 26:30.520] you know, who can afford to have a seat year upon year.
[26:30.520 -> 26:32.640] And some people who really struggle, you know,
[26:32.640 -> 26:34.800] we have Brad Benavidez on, you know, Brad,
[26:34.800 -> 26:36.320] and he was talking about the struggles
[26:36.320 -> 26:37.280] they've had financially.
[26:37.280 -> 26:40.560] So what has it been like for you and your family growing up
[26:40.560 -> 26:43.560] and being able to afford this crazy thing that you do?
[26:43.560 -> 26:48.560] Yeah, I mean, motorsport, I think it's super, super expensive.
[26:48.560 -> 26:51.440] I think everyone knows it for sure, but it's crazy.
[26:51.440 -> 26:55.720] And at the beginning, it's OK.
[26:55.720 -> 26:57.840] I mean, it's very expensive.
[26:57.840 -> 26:59.920] Go-kart is already very expensive.
[26:59.920 -> 27:04.400] But then when you go to F4, F3, F2, now you see, OK, that's crazy.
[27:04.400 -> 27:07.160] Like, the season is really expensive, but then you have to F4, F3, F2, now you see, okay, that's crazy. Like the season is really expensive,
[27:07.160 -> 27:09.640] but then you have to buy all the flights,
[27:09.640 -> 27:12.160] all the hotels, rental cars.
[27:12.160 -> 27:15.720] You have to eat at the restaurant or some,
[27:15.720 -> 27:17.520] I mean, you have to eat something, you know,
[27:17.520 -> 27:19.240] on the racetrack and on the weekends.
[27:19.240 -> 27:21.800] I mean, it costs a lot of money.
[27:21.800 -> 27:23.560] But, you know, I was,
[27:23.560 -> 27:26.880] I think I was lucky that my dad could help me a lot
[27:27.040 -> 27:30.920] in go-karts and Formula 4.
[27:31.080 -> 27:34.120] Then from F3, it was really expensive.
[27:34.280 -> 27:38.960] So I had the chance to be with the Sauber Academy.
[27:39.120 -> 27:42.720] So they were helping me a lot from F3,
[27:42.880 -> 27:46.720] but also my three F2 seasons especially the last one.
[27:46.720 -> 27:50.800] The last one it was I mean my dad couldn't do anything else I mean he
[27:50.800 -> 27:57.280] couldn't help me anymore just maybe just you know buy some flight tickets and
[27:57.280 -> 28:02.000] some hotels but not all... Get yourself a Kit Kat or something like that.
[28:02.000 -> 28:05.160] That's what my dad would be like. Exactly, just, it's okay.
[28:05.160 -> 28:06.120] You can buy, you can,
[28:06.120 -> 28:08.840] tonight you will hit a Kit Kat with a cola, that's it.
[28:08.840 -> 28:09.680] Yeah.
[28:09.680 -> 28:12.040] No, I mean, it could,
[28:12.040 -> 28:16.400] no, it could help me quite a lot at the very beginning.
[28:16.400 -> 28:20.840] But now, as I said, I'm very lucky to be with Sauber,
[28:20.840 -> 28:23.280] especially for the financial support.
[28:23.280 -> 28:25.800] Also the French Federation helped me a lot.
[28:25.800 -> 28:27.680] What's that?
[28:27.680 -> 28:28.760] The French?
[28:28.760 -> 28:29.920] Yeah, what's that?
[28:29.920 -> 28:31.520] I mean, in France we have,
[28:32.840 -> 28:34.920] it's called the French team.
[28:34.920 -> 28:39.720] And I think each year there is like four drivers
[28:39.720 -> 28:43.120] from F4 to F2, or even Super Formula,
[28:43.120 -> 28:44.880] they are going to help me again next year
[28:44.880 -> 28:46.960] because as soon as you step in F1
[28:46.960 -> 28:49.620] they don't help you anymore, which is which is logic, but
[28:50.080 -> 28:55.900] Super Formula is considered as a like a Formula 2 series. So yeah, they will continue to help me
[28:55.900 -> 29:02.620] So there is like four drivers and they give budget to the to the four drivers. So which is really really good
[29:02.620 -> 29:05.560] It's not a lot a lot of budget but it's
[29:05.560 -> 29:11.680] decent amount to help a lot the drivers so. Well F2C is like 2 million right?
[29:11.680 -> 29:16.920] It's a lot I mean there's there's no it's not like a fixed price you know it
[29:16.920 -> 29:23.640] depends a lot on the on the drivers on the teams but I think nowadays it's yeah
[29:23.640 -> 29:26.980] around in between 2 and three million three million quid
[29:26.980 -> 29:31.980] I would be set for life. Yeah, I'd settle down sure. I'd have about four dogs
[29:33.260 -> 29:35.100] In this apartment
[29:35.100 -> 29:39.760] We've spoken about it, but we travel too much, but we were thinking we've had a little dog running about be quite nice
[29:39.760 -> 29:45.480] It's good. It's good for sure. I like dogs a lot. I have two, two dogs. What would you have? Yeah, Golden Retrievers.
[29:45.480 -> 29:46.320] Oh my God.
[29:46.320 -> 29:47.440] It's amazing, amazing.
[29:47.440 -> 29:48.400] I love dogs.
[29:48.400 -> 29:51.300] It's good to, I mean, to have dogs
[29:51.300 -> 29:53.200] when I come back from the races,
[29:53.200 -> 29:55.200] even from a really tough weekend,
[29:55.200 -> 29:58.400] you know, score zero points, crash the car,
[29:58.400 -> 30:02.240] and I come back home and there's the two dogs
[30:02.240 -> 30:03.440] really happy to see me.
[30:03.440 -> 30:04.280] They still love you.
[30:04.280 -> 30:06.520] Exactly. They don't care about the points, they still love you.
[30:06.520 -> 30:08.120] Exactly, that's very important.
[30:08.120 -> 30:12.040] When I come back home, just to disconnect a bit from motorsports
[30:12.040 -> 30:15.120] and to recharge the batteries.
[30:15.120 -> 30:16.120] So, yeah, it's good.
[30:16.120 -> 30:18.520] Nice. So, you're going to be moving to Japan?
[30:18.520 -> 30:21.480] No, I will be just going there for the races
[30:21.480 -> 30:24.440] and some tests as well.
[30:24.440 -> 30:25.120] I think there's pre-season tests and mid- and some some tests as well I think there's like
[30:25.120 -> 30:30.240] pre-season test and mid-season testing in Fuji as well so I will be just going
[30:30.240 -> 30:35.600] there for for the races and yeah it's gonna be a lot of travel a lot of jet
[30:35.600 -> 30:40.560] like next year but I'm I'm ready for it. So they all in Japan all the races? All
[30:40.560 -> 30:48.000] the races in Japan. And how many circuits are there? I think it's like twice Suzuka, twice Fuji,
[30:48.000 -> 30:52.080] and then there's Autopolis, Sugo, and Motegi.
[30:52.080 -> 30:52.920] Wow.
[30:52.920 -> 30:53.740] So, yeah.
[30:53.740 -> 30:55.760] I don't really know the tracks to be honest,
[30:55.760 -> 30:57.400] apart from Fuji and Suzuka.
[30:57.400 -> 31:00.000] A bit Motegi because I watch MotoGP, so.
[31:00.000 -> 31:01.040] Oh do you?
[31:01.040 -> 31:02.760] So for sure I know a little bit the track,
[31:02.760 -> 31:06.080] but Autopolis and Sugo, I don't know.
[31:06.080 -> 31:07.160] This is an interesting question,
[31:07.160 -> 31:09.440] and because I was going to ask you,
[31:09.440 -> 31:12.360] has it been, I know for like the media side of things,
[31:12.360 -> 31:15.320] F2 following F1 and doing all the same circuits,
[31:15.320 -> 31:18.320] you guys are on TV, which is great that you follow that,
[31:18.320 -> 31:22.600] but I like the smaller tracks better suited to F2.
[31:22.600 -> 31:25.280] Like, do you wish in F2 you were doing smaller circuits
[31:25.280 -> 31:30.160] which suit the car better or is it is that not the case? Well I don't really know like um...
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[32:32.000 -> 32:36.400] I think the the f2 calendar is not too bad
[32:36.400 -> 32:39.600] I think I would I would like to have like more
[32:40.400 -> 32:44.480] Races in America probably like Austin that would be great for the Formula 2
[32:44.640 -> 32:50.080] races in America probably like Austin that would be great for the Formula 2 car because there's a long straight line great overtaking possibilities but
[32:50.080 -> 32:56.180] tracks like for example Barcelona is I like Barcelona a lot I mean because we
[32:56.180 -> 33:00.380] would drive there a lot when we are in a 4a 3 and it's a great track but for the
[33:00.380 -> 33:07.120] races like it's a bit boring to be honest. So yeah, I would like to have more tracks like this,
[33:07.120 -> 33:11.280] you know, Austin or even Mexico, you know, Mexico is like,
[33:11.280 -> 33:13.480] I mean, I don't know the track very well
[33:13.480 -> 33:16.680] because this year in FP1, I did like probably two outlaps
[33:16.680 -> 33:17.520] and that's it.
[33:17.520 -> 33:21.000] But it looks like a good track for the race.
[33:21.000 -> 33:24.360] In the F1 test, you didn't get any time, did you?
[33:24.360 -> 33:25.040] No. Yeah, what happened there? I? Yeah. You didn't get any time, did you?
[33:30.720 -> 33:32.000] Yeah, what happened there? I think it was a brake by wire failure. So how does that feel?
[33:37.360 -> 33:44.080] To like, you've obviously waited all year to get in an F1 car. Exactly. And for that not to happen? I was so disappointed because I was, I mean, I prepared myself like it was a Formula 2 race,
[33:44.080 -> 33:46.140] you know, a very important Formula 2 race,
[33:46.140 -> 33:51.140] just for probably 15 laps, you know, 15 or 20 laps, an FP1.
[33:51.140 -> 33:56.140] So I jump in the car, I drive, we go out of the box
[33:56.500 -> 34:00.020] and then I touch the brakes and there's like a sound
[34:00.020 -> 34:02.180] in my ears, an alarm on the dashboard,
[34:02.180 -> 34:03.540] like brake by way of failure.
[34:03.540 -> 34:09.800] And then I feel like there's no brakes, no brakes, the car is not braking anymore and I was like, guys, I think
[34:09.800 -> 34:14.800] there's an issue, okay, box, box, still the problem and we tried like five times to change
[34:14.800 -> 34:17.800] everything, we changed the steering wheel, they changed something in the software.
[34:17.800 -> 34:18.800] Changed the stereo?
[34:18.800 -> 34:19.800] Yes, the steering wheel.
[34:19.800 -> 34:20.800] Oh, the stereo!
[34:20.800 -> 34:23.800] Put a new stereo in it, change the song!
[34:23.800 -> 34:28.080] That would be good, I would like to have some music in the car.
[34:28.080 -> 34:32.720] Yeah I was gonna say! I mean it's yeah for sure it can happen you know it's motorsport but
[34:33.280 -> 34:37.920] yeah um unfortunately it happened at the worst time possible you know.
[34:37.920 -> 34:43.120] It must be so annoying. Are you quite technically clued up with the car itself so do you know what
[34:43.120 -> 34:46.620] they're doing when they're changing all the stuff in the car or are they just doing stuff and
[34:46.620 -> 34:50.940] you're just like okay yeah I'll try this? Yeah they just do it and they just tell
[34:50.940 -> 34:55.980] me we're gonna we're going to try again and we go out same issue again they
[34:55.980 -> 34:59.420] change something I don't know what I don't know what what what they are doing
[34:59.420 -> 35:08.200] so yeah it's but it's you know as said, it can happen. So it's okay. But yeah, just going to Mexico for this,
[35:08.200 -> 35:11.400] it's part of the reserve driver role.
[35:11.400 -> 35:13.200] Unfortunately, it's like this.
[35:13.200 -> 35:15.080] Now, it's amazing that what you did with Sauber,
[35:15.080 -> 35:16.480] it's amazing that Sauber picked you up
[35:16.480 -> 35:18.720] and they've been there throughout this part of your career.
[35:18.720 -> 35:19.960] How did that happen?
[35:19.960 -> 35:23.080] Like, was there a, how did Sauber find you?
[35:24.480 -> 35:28.920] I think it was back in Formula 4 in 2019
[35:28.920 -> 35:31.560] when I did the German F4 championship.
[35:32.560 -> 35:35.960] At first, it was called the Sauber Junior Team.
[35:35.960 -> 35:40.960] So it was linked with Charruz racing.
[35:42.240 -> 35:45.700] And I was driving with the US racing team.
[35:45.700 -> 35:49.400] It was like Charruz, but in F4 in Germany.
[35:49.400 -> 35:53.680] And so yeah, I won the championship there.
[35:53.680 -> 35:56.560] This was the 17 out of 21 wins.
[35:58.000 -> 36:00.760] No, this was in the French F4.
[36:00.760 -> 36:02.320] Rookie, yeah.
[36:02.320 -> 36:03.160] Another junior series.
[36:03.160 -> 36:04.000] Yeah, exactly.
[36:04.000 -> 36:04.820] Epic year that was.
[36:04.820 -> 36:06.800] I won everything there, almost everything.
[36:06.800 -> 36:08.840] I couldn't believe that, you were so young as well.
[36:08.840 -> 36:11.840] Exactly, I was, I think, yeah, again, the youngest for sure,
[36:11.840 -> 36:14.360] but I was like 15, yeah, 15.
[36:14.360 -> 36:15.920] And how old were the other people you were racing?
[36:15.920 -> 36:17.440] How old was the oldest person?
[36:17.440 -> 36:19.920] The oldest one, I think there was one guy,
[36:19.920 -> 36:21.760] he was like 25, something like that.
[36:21.760 -> 36:23.360] That must be awful, I'm 27.
[36:23.360 -> 36:24.560] God, I remember.
[36:24.560 -> 36:26.040] I don't think he's making F1.
[36:26.040 -> 36:26.880] No, no.
[36:26.880 -> 36:27.960] You know what?
[36:27.960 -> 36:31.080] He was doing jet ski, jet ski, yeah.
[36:31.080 -> 36:32.120] Yeah.
[36:32.120 -> 36:33.560] Jet ski racing, I don't know.
[36:33.560 -> 36:37.040] And he decided to do an F4 season and he was there,
[36:37.040 -> 36:38.320] but he's, he was nice.
[36:38.320 -> 36:40.240] That's cool then, if he's just hopped off a jet ski.
[36:40.240 -> 36:42.200] Sure, sure, he enjoyed a lot, he enjoyed a lot,
[36:42.200 -> 36:44.200] but yeah, I mean, it's cool, you know,
[36:44.200 -> 36:45.480] when it's fun as well, you know, when it's fun as well.
[36:45.480 -> 36:51.320] When you're 15 years old racing with like guys that are 20 or 25 years old,
[36:51.440 -> 36:56.840] it's not easy because I was, I mean, still really, really young and lacking a lot of experience.
[36:56.840 -> 36:59.360] But it's good. It's great memories.
[36:59.360 -> 37:04.680] You're just so young, like 14, 15, 16. I think, I was like, you're a kid, aren't you really?
[37:04.680 -> 37:05.040] You don't have all the life aren't you really you don't
[37:05.040 -> 37:08.520] have all the life experience. You don't know how to communicate with
[37:08.520 -> 37:12.040] people as well. So that would have been a massive thing in your career
[37:12.040 -> 37:17.160] you're still you're 20 you're so young. Sure sure exactly that's and I mean it's
[37:17.160 -> 37:21.640] good now I don't regret anything because that's great experience you know to to
[37:21.640 -> 37:30.000] be that young in the middle of a very competitive sport.
[37:30.000 -> 37:35.000] Everyone wants to beat all the other drivers.
[37:35.000 -> 37:38.000] It's not easy, but it's fun.
[37:38.000 -> 37:41.000] When I think about it now, I learned a lot.
[37:41.000 -> 37:46.400] It's great. That's why also I'm better today and I hope I will learn
[37:46.400 -> 37:49.640] again and be better in the future so yeah that's good.
[37:49.640 -> 37:53.800] As your results show this season you're consistent like you're able to continue
[37:53.800 -> 37:57.200] picking up points race in race out I think that's one thing a lot of people
[37:57.200 -> 38:02.860] lack so it's quite a good thing to have. Yeah sure and during my first two F2
[38:02.860 -> 38:08.160] seasons I was really quick and I won races, I did pole positions,
[38:08.160 -> 38:12.160] but it was like this, you know, it was one weekend good, one weekend bad.
[38:12.160 -> 38:19.360] So this year I really wanted to win the championship and to win the championship, I knew I needed to just be consistent.
[38:19.360 -> 38:26.800] And I started very well in Bahrain with, for sure, crazy pole position and the race win by 20 seconds.
[38:26.800 -> 38:30.160] And after that, Jeddah was terrible, zero points.
[38:30.160 -> 38:31.000] So I was like-
[38:31.000 -> 38:32.480] Yeah, there was something that happened at Jeddah,
[38:32.480 -> 38:33.320] which we'll speak about.
[38:33.320 -> 38:34.160] For sure, yeah.
[38:34.160 -> 38:35.440] Something quite big actually,
[38:35.440 -> 38:36.280] involving someone that we know.
[38:36.280 -> 38:38.600] I see the name of one of the drivers involved.
[38:38.600 -> 38:39.440] Yeah, one of your rivals.
[38:39.440 -> 38:40.280] Someone got wiped.
[38:40.280 -> 38:43.920] When we saw the Formula 2 prize giving,
[38:43.920 -> 38:46.640] they did a little film of the season.
[38:46.640 -> 38:49.760] And it was so Bahrain round one,
[38:49.760 -> 38:51.760] Theo Pochere winning the race like this,
[38:51.760 -> 38:55.120] then round two sprint race, crazy move,
[38:55.120 -> 38:57.240] crazy move by the champion.
[38:57.240 -> 38:59.120] Mate, we've got some clips that we're gonna,
[38:59.120 -> 38:59.960] we'll play to you and show you.
[38:59.960 -> 39:01.720] But before we get into that,
[39:01.720 -> 39:03.600] I noticed you're wearing quite a nice watch.
[39:03.600 -> 39:04.480] It's a nice one.
[39:04.480 -> 39:07.440] Yeah, yeah. So we had JM Correa on the pod and he was wearing a cool watch.
[39:07.440 -> 39:09.840] It was like a custom watch for part of his race team.
[39:09.840 -> 39:11.920] Do you mind if we show everyone what you're wearing?
[39:11.920 -> 39:14.080] I've got one as well, so I'll show you mine.
[39:14.080 -> 39:15.360] Yeah, you've got a Swatch Omega.
[39:15.360 -> 39:16.320] A brand new watch, yeah.
[39:17.600 -> 39:19.760] So it's like it's called a moon swatch. That's the Mercury one.
[39:20.320 -> 39:21.440] I think it's not on time.
[39:22.640 -> 39:23.440] That's why you were late.
[39:26.000 -> 39:28.000] Oh, that's really nice. Look at that. That's not on time. That's why you were late. Exactly. Oh, that's really nice.
[39:28.000 -> 39:29.000] Look at that.
[39:29.000 -> 39:30.000] That's a nice one.
[39:30.000 -> 39:32.000] That's a very nice watch.
[39:32.000 -> 39:33.000] Yeah.
[39:33.000 -> 39:37.000] I'll film it later and we'll show it.
[39:37.000 -> 39:38.000] It's really nice, man.
[39:38.000 -> 39:40.000] Thank you.
[39:40.000 -> 39:43.000] So, yeah, we got a couple of clips together
[39:43.000 -> 39:45.000] pretty much throughout this year.
[39:45.000 -> 39:47.500] It's only like three or four clips, but we wanted to play them back to you.
[39:47.500 -> 39:50.500] And then you can just talk about it and kind of how you felt at the time.
[39:50.500 -> 39:51.500] Sure, sure.
[39:52.500 -> 39:55.500] All right, this one is just a really cool overtake that you did.
[39:55.500 -> 39:58.500] I'm sure you remember it. Jack Dewan, Spain.
[39:58.500 -> 40:02.500] In the rain, mate. Very Alonso-esque, I've got to say.
[40:02.500 -> 40:05.760] It reminded me a lot of Alonso. I watched it. You know what?
[40:05.760 -> 40:09.400] I mean, Alonso inspired me a lot for the race starts
[40:09.400 -> 40:11.280] and the overtakes to be honest.
[40:11.280 -> 40:14.400] And it's not my favorite driver, you know
[40:14.400 -> 40:17.240] but I really liked the way, you know, when he was with
[40:17.240 -> 40:19.020] especially when he was with Ferrari
[40:19.020 -> 40:21.680] you can see a lot of race starts from Alonso
[40:21.680 -> 40:24.960] like great starts and then he overtakes like one car
[40:24.960 -> 40:25.440] two cars, he goes right, left. And then he overtakes like one car, two cars,
[40:25.440 -> 40:26.960] he goes right, left.
[40:26.960 -> 40:29.280] And he's like playing with the other drivers.
[40:29.280 -> 40:32.720] And that's what my manager told me, look at Alonso.
[40:32.720 -> 40:34.920] And when you do the race starts,
[40:34.920 -> 40:37.680] you feel like you are in a video game, you know,
[40:37.680 -> 40:40.760] you just enjoy and you just play with the others, you know?
[40:40.760 -> 40:43.320] And yeah, I mean, it inspired me a lot.
[40:43.320 -> 40:45.320] So it's great that it's and it's
[40:45.320 -> 40:49.040] still still good 42 years old still still killing it and he's a few more
[40:49.040 -> 40:52.120] years yeah stick him in a red bull mate and he's he'll win a championship
[40:52.120 -> 40:57.280] think he's for sure he can challenge Max
[40:57.960 -> 41:05.440] let's watch this this is pretty good be Yeah. I mean, that's epic.
[41:05.440 -> 41:06.460] And then he kind of comes back
[41:06.460 -> 41:09.060] and then you're just straight around the outside,
[41:09.060 -> 41:10.480] mate, in the rain.
[41:10.480 -> 41:12.200] What, you're on intermediates there?
[41:12.200 -> 41:15.160] Yeah, it's like, no, in F2, it's like the wet tires.
[41:15.160 -> 41:16.320] We don't have intermediate.
[41:16.320 -> 41:19.160] It's wet or slick tires.
[41:19.160 -> 41:22.320] But it's, that was a great move because, I mean,
[41:22.320 -> 41:28.040] it was like after a few laps, I think after already a good 10
[41:28.040 -> 41:31.020] or 12 laps and the car was moving a lot,
[41:31.020 -> 41:32.480] the track was drying out.
[41:32.480 -> 41:34.880] So when the track is drying out a little bit
[41:34.880 -> 41:39.600] with the old wet tires, it's not really good.
[41:39.600 -> 41:43.680] I mean, the car feels really like a boat moving a lot.
[41:43.680 -> 41:46.080] And to go around the outside like this,
[41:46.080 -> 41:48.880] if you push a little bit too much, you go in the gravel.
[41:48.880 -> 41:50.280] So that was-
[41:50.280 -> 41:51.680] Logan Sargent style.
[41:51.680 -> 41:53.160] You don't want to be doing that.
[41:53.160 -> 41:54.440] I'm not going to say anything.
[41:54.440 -> 41:57.360] Is it what's going through your mind?
[41:57.360 -> 41:59.360] Cause the thing I love about F2 is that
[41:59.360 -> 42:00.960] you obviously don't know, but on TV,
[42:00.960 -> 42:03.400] they show how fast your heart's beating.
[42:03.400 -> 42:06.320] And I've noticed that it's always before the overtake.
[42:06.320 -> 42:08.080] And then by the time that the overtake,
[42:08.080 -> 42:10.480] you're even side by side, the heart rate drops a lot.
[42:10.480 -> 42:13.320] So, and imagine in the rain, you must be thumping.
[42:13.320 -> 42:14.760] Well, for sure, for sure.
[42:14.760 -> 42:17.480] A lot, sometimes like even on the qualy lap,
[42:17.480 -> 42:21.120] or if you have a little oversteer snap, you know,
[42:21.120 -> 42:24.840] in a high speed corners, like the heart is like this,
[42:24.840 -> 42:25.320] you feel it. Do you like driving in the rain? like the heart is like this you feel it
[42:25.320 -> 42:29.960] Do you like driving in the rain? Yeah I love it I love it it's really cool I to
[42:29.960 -> 42:34.840] be honest I like both like dry conditions and wet conditions but I mean
[42:34.840 -> 42:39.800] when the car is is really good wet condition is is nice and when you are
[42:39.800 -> 42:42.800] confident as well it's it's nice you know when you you feel like you can
[42:42.800 -> 42:48.560] brake late you can push a lot and you you dominate the car you know which is it's a really great
[42:48.560 -> 42:53.160] dominate the car yeah it's something a champion would say it's very true yeah
[42:53.160 -> 43:05.240] my car dominates me most of the time. So this now I believe this is the Oli Behrman clip. Okay. We saw what happened live.
[43:06.760 -> 43:07.600] You know, we like Oli. Sure, sure.
[43:07.600 -> 43:08.420] I like him too.
[43:08.420 -> 43:10.320] He's a friend of ours.
[43:10.320 -> 43:12.200] That's the thing, I have nothing against him,
[43:12.200 -> 43:14.000] but I don't know what, I don't know.
[43:14.000 -> 43:14.920] Let's just run the clip.
[43:14.920 -> 43:16.880] I saw what you were doing before we play it.
[43:16.880 -> 43:18.020] I saw what you were trying
[43:18.020 -> 43:20.120] because it had worked a few laps before, hadn't it?
[43:20.120 -> 43:20.960] Exactly.
[43:20.960 -> 43:21.780] It made that move.
[43:21.780 -> 43:22.620] Twice, exactly.
[43:22.620 -> 43:24.780] I did it, like I was really confident on the brakes,
[43:24.780 -> 43:30.400] like, and bam, I was really confident on the brakes and I was overconfident for two seconds in my mind.
[43:30.400 -> 43:33.200] Probably not even two seconds. Half a second.
[43:33.200 -> 43:40.400] It's just like a fraction, just overconfident. I was right behind Victor Martens, my teammate.
[43:41.600 -> 43:47.920] So he had DRS, I had DRS as well, big slipstream from five cars in front of us,
[43:47.920 -> 43:49.880] so we were like really quick,
[43:49.880 -> 43:52.520] and in Formula 2, in the races as well,
[43:52.520 -> 43:54.520] you need to drop the front wing level,
[43:54.520 -> 43:57.520] it's by regulation, you have a bit less downforce
[43:57.520 -> 43:59.960] than in the qualifying session.
[43:59.960 -> 44:03.600] So, which makes the car a bit more unstable
[44:03.600 -> 44:06.860] and quicker in the straight for sure. So there was everything
[44:07.500 -> 44:11.380] To you know remind me to break a bit earlier, you know, but I
[44:14.380 -> 44:16.380] So I went for it, but yeah
[44:22.000 -> 44:24.000] Way too quick. Way too quick.
[44:24.000 -> 44:34.000] You know what? As soon as I saw that I was going to crash into Oli, I was like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, it's okay, I take the blame.
[44:34.000 -> 44:49.180] I was like, even in the car, still like this, sliding a lot, it was really quick and I mean, I was not scared of injuring myself because I knew it was, me it was going to be okay. For Oli I was a bit more scared. I was like I hope he's okay. I hope you know I take
[44:49.180 -> 44:53.140] the blame. I take the penalty. It's too late and I was not even super hungry at
[44:53.140 -> 44:56.620] myself. I was like it's okay now it's done. Need to move on. Straight away.
[44:56.620 -> 45:03.660] To be honest, if this was happening like in my first F2 season I would
[45:03.660 -> 45:05.460] have probably like smashed the
[45:05.460 -> 45:09.360] steering wheel like crying in the radio I don't know but now it's okay you know
[45:09.360 -> 45:14.160] I feel I was okay. This is a good angle actually from Victor Martens. Exactly.
[45:14.160 -> 45:20.400] So you can really see how you didn't give a damn straight down the inside.
[45:20.400 -> 45:26.240] You can just see where you didn't brake early enough. I love it because it reminds me of racing him on the sim.
[45:26.240 -> 45:27.240] Really?
[45:27.240 -> 45:28.240] There's a gap!
[45:28.240 -> 45:30.240] If I see a gap, I'm going up the gap.
[45:30.240 -> 45:31.240] The gap was questionable.
[45:31.240 -> 45:33.120] Plus the door was half closed.
[45:33.120 -> 45:35.480] We play the F1 game with no damage on though.
[45:35.480 -> 45:36.480] The cars don't get damaged.
[45:36.480 -> 45:38.080] Oh yeah, so I can just push you.
[45:38.080 -> 45:40.440] On the F1 game you can do it, I promise you.
[45:40.440 -> 45:42.240] But there, it's a little bit more expensive.
[45:42.240 -> 45:44.320] A little bit more dangerous as well.
[45:44.320 -> 45:45.000] Sorry dad.
[45:45.000 -> 45:47.920] No, but yeah, that's crazy.
[45:47.920 -> 45:48.760] That's crazy.
[45:48.760 -> 45:49.600] And that's, yeah.
[45:49.600 -> 45:50.800] I saw it when you got out of the car though,
[45:50.800 -> 45:53.120] you were straight over to Ollie and yeah.
[45:53.120 -> 45:54.600] That was the first thing I did.
[45:54.600 -> 45:56.000] I was like, as I said,
[45:56.000 -> 45:59.840] I was not even super angry because it's the second race
[45:59.840 -> 46:02.080] of the year, second race weekend of the year.
[46:02.080 -> 46:03.680] Okay, I did the mistake.
[46:03.680 -> 46:05.320] It's like this, we move on.
[46:05.320 -> 46:06.320] Yeah, it happens.
[46:06.320 -> 46:07.760] Yeah, it happens.
[46:07.760 -> 46:09.400] Was he pissed off, Ollie?
[46:09.400 -> 46:10.800] Ollie, yeah, a little bit.
[46:10.800 -> 46:12.640] But it's okay.
[46:12.640 -> 46:15.360] Even the team, Prima, they were a little bit angry,
[46:15.360 -> 46:17.280] but it's okay, I can understand.
[46:17.280 -> 46:18.120] I can understand.
[46:18.120 -> 46:18.960] Yeah, I get it.
[46:18.960 -> 46:19.800] For sure, for sure.
[46:19.800 -> 46:22.200] But it's okay, then, it was okay.
[46:22.200 -> 46:23.920] This next one's really interesting
[46:23.920 -> 46:26.200] because, I mean, it's obviously not your fault
[46:26.200 -> 46:26.840] Oh, yeah
[46:26.840 -> 46:32.940] and this was was mega because we had Pietro fit a parody on the pod and he was telling us about Enzo and how this
[46:32.940 -> 46:36.540] Happened and like the aftermath and like, you know his in injuries and stuff like that
[46:36.540 -> 46:40.060] And this is a really tough one. I think for both of you, but let's run the clip
[46:41.760 -> 46:47.280] It's just some fan footage so your car clearly doesn't, just doesn't go.
[46:47.280 -> 46:51.800] And, oh, that's mental.
[46:51.800 -> 46:53.440] Yeah, that's crazy.
[46:53.440 -> 46:55.280] That was, I think for sure,
[46:55.280 -> 46:58.040] the biggest impact of my career,
[46:58.040 -> 47:03.040] because I think it was, in the end, it was 72 G's, 72,
[47:03.040 -> 47:05.200] between the two cars, you know, the first impact.
[47:05.200 -> 47:06.020] 72.
[47:06.020 -> 47:07.760] And you would never pull that around a corner or any?
[47:07.760 -> 47:08.600] I think not, it's-
[47:08.600 -> 47:09.560] No, that's a lot.
[47:09.560 -> 47:12.600] It's crazy, 72, it's like a lot, a lot.
[47:12.600 -> 47:17.280] And yeah, just to, I mean, I remember just,
[47:17.280 -> 47:21.160] the last thing I remember is seeing Enzo
[47:21.160 -> 47:22.320] right behind me like this.
[47:22.320 -> 47:25.940] I see all the cars going right, left, right, left. And the last one, I see Enzo just right behind me like this. I see all the cars going right left right left and last one
[47:25.940 -> 47:30.580] I see Enzo just right behind me and I close I was I think I close my eyes and
[47:30.820 -> 47:37.180] I had my hands on the steering wheel and the last thing after that that I remember is just
[47:37.660 -> 47:39.160] standing like
[47:39.160 -> 47:41.160] facing the pit wall in the car
[47:41.400 -> 47:42.640] feeling
[47:42.640 -> 47:48.040] Okay, I mean for sure. I feel like my back is completely,
[47:48.040 -> 47:49.440] I don't know, towards the seat,
[47:49.440 -> 47:51.280] like it's a bit of a strange feeling.
[47:51.280 -> 47:55.280] But, and I want to talk on the radio to the engineer,
[47:55.280 -> 47:57.560] but I don't have the steering wheel anymore.
[47:57.560 -> 48:00.400] Just the steering wheel was completely broken
[48:00.400 -> 48:01.440] out of the car.
[48:01.440 -> 48:03.600] There was still the quick release,
[48:03.600 -> 48:06.280] you know, quick release on the steering column,
[48:06.280 -> 48:09.160] but the steering wheel was completely broken
[48:09.160 -> 48:10.000] out of the car.
[48:10.000 -> 48:11.640] And I was like, can I talk?
[48:11.640 -> 48:12.680] Can I talk?
[48:12.680 -> 48:13.520] That's crazy to me.
[48:13.520 -> 48:14.640] Cause when I watched it,
[48:14.640 -> 48:18.320] the safety car goes over to Enzo and not you.
[48:18.320 -> 48:19.560] And so I thought, you know,
[48:19.560 -> 48:21.560] no one's come to you because you've radioed in
[48:21.560 -> 48:22.640] and said, I'm fine.
[48:22.640 -> 48:27.240] But no, because I just, there was the medical car.
[48:27.240 -> 48:30.280] They saw me, I just did a thumbs up like this,
[48:30.280 -> 48:33.660] but they told me to stay in the car, to not move.
[48:33.660 -> 48:37.460] And yeah, then there was, I think it's Jan Roberts,
[48:37.460 -> 48:40.880] the doctor of the FIA, he came to me.
[48:40.880 -> 48:43.640] He just told me like, okay, I'm going to move,
[48:43.640 -> 48:45.800] to remove the helmet if I felt okay.
[48:45.960 -> 48:48.440] But stay in the car. They did the classic procedure.
[48:48.600 -> 48:50.440] I went to the hospital.
[48:50.600 -> 48:51.640] And were you okay?
[48:51.800 -> 48:52.880] I was...
[48:53.040 -> 48:57.440] The day after, it was a back-to-back race with Abu Dhabi.
[48:57.600 -> 49:00.880] I wasn't sure if I was going to race in Abu Dhabi
[49:01.040 -> 49:03.800] because the day after, in the airport,
[49:03.960 -> 49:05.120] I was with my dad
[49:05.120 -> 49:09.960] and my mom came to that race that's crazy like she doesn't like that
[49:09.960 -> 49:14.800] she doesn't like watching you race? I mean she supports me she loves it but
[49:14.800 -> 49:19.520] it's scary right? Exactly so scary for her and she came to that race you know
[49:19.520 -> 49:25.000] to Jeddah like I was like I, that's the worst race to come
[49:25.840 -> 49:28.240] because I mean, you don't know what's going to happen,
[49:28.240 -> 49:30.000] but yeah, that weekend,
[49:30.000 -> 49:31.760] I mean, the big crash at the start like this,
[49:31.760 -> 49:32.600] it looks scary because-
[49:32.600 -> 49:33.520] That's awful, yeah.
[49:33.520 -> 49:35.360] Exactly, you see the crash, there's the red flag,
[49:35.360 -> 49:36.720] and then there's no information,
[49:36.720 -> 49:39.040] no TV footage of the drivers.
[49:39.040 -> 49:41.880] So, you know, for the parents, it's terrible.
[49:41.880 -> 49:44.880] So yeah, the day after I was in the airport
[49:44.880 -> 49:46.800] and I could barely breathe. I was like, it's terrible. So yeah, the day after I was in the airport and I could barely breathe.
[49:46.800 -> 49:49.440] I was like breathing, struggling,
[49:49.440 -> 49:51.760] both of my knees hurting a lot
[49:51.760 -> 49:53.120] because of the steering wheel.
[49:53.120 -> 49:55.680] I think with the impact, you know,
[49:55.680 -> 49:59.640] with my hands and both knees in the steering wheel.
[49:59.640 -> 50:01.640] So I broke the steering wheel with the knees,
[50:01.640 -> 50:03.040] which is crazy.
[50:03.040 -> 50:03.880] And-
[50:03.880 -> 50:04.700] Oh, that's how you broke the steering wheel?
[50:04.700 -> 50:05.280] I think so. I think so because both knees, I is crazy. And that's how you broke the steering wheel? I think so.
[50:05.280 -> 50:07.480] I think so because both knees, I was like walking,
[50:07.480 -> 50:08.320] but it was hurting.
[50:08.320 -> 50:10.280] You had the fucking talk back button
[50:10.280 -> 50:12.000] still lodged in your knee.
[50:12.000 -> 50:12.840] Exactly, I was crazy.
[50:12.840 -> 50:14.840] You had the clutch like down in somewhere.
[50:14.840 -> 50:16.600] Exactly, I was crazy, crazy.
[50:16.600 -> 50:20.840] And yeah, and also, you know, the headache,
[50:20.840 -> 50:24.040] you know, I had so much headache and crazy.
[50:24.040 -> 50:29.040] And I went to Abu Dhabi and I had the headache, you know, I had so much headache and crazy. And I went to Abu Dhabi and I had like,
[50:29.400 -> 50:31.800] I needed to go to the medical center
[50:31.800 -> 50:33.680] for them to clear me to race.
[50:33.680 -> 50:34.600] In the end it was okay.
[50:34.600 -> 50:38.760] I felt better just the Friday of Abu Dhabi.
[50:38.760 -> 50:40.640] The Friday morning, everything was better.
[50:40.640 -> 50:43.620] The knees, everything, like the headache
[50:43.620 -> 50:45.560] was not there anymore. Yeah.
[50:45.560 -> 50:46.560] That was good.
[50:46.560 -> 50:47.560] That was good.
[50:47.560 -> 50:48.560] It's amazing.
[50:48.560 -> 50:50.360] We've got one more clip and this one is just a special one.
[50:50.360 -> 50:51.360] We all know it.
[50:51.360 -> 50:52.360] Sure.
[50:52.360 -> 50:55.760] But I just want you to watch it back and then just say, just tell us how you felt.
[50:55.760 -> 50:57.400] I mean, it's pretty obvious, but...
[50:57.400 -> 51:00.240] You are the new WESTERN champion, eh?
[51:00.240 -> 51:01.240] Yes!
[51:01.240 -> 51:02.240] Oh my God.
[51:02.240 -> 51:11.640] Emotional. I don't like seeing myself like this.
[51:11.640 -> 51:12.640] But it's okay.
[51:12.640 -> 51:13.640] That's why I wanted to play it.
[51:13.640 -> 51:15.200] I'm happy, but I know what you mean.
[51:15.200 -> 51:17.360] I'm the same when people play it back to me.
[51:17.360 -> 51:18.960] Crying like a baby in the element.
[51:18.960 -> 51:19.960] I get it.
[51:19.960 -> 51:26.240] I remember I couldn't speak like I was trying to speak, but I was trying so much. It's good.
[51:26.240 -> 51:31.040] But it's mad because you clearly see through your words how much that meant to you.
[51:31.040 -> 51:36.840] You obviously saw it coming. I mean the battle with Vesti was obviously ongoing throughout the year
[51:36.840 -> 51:41.320] but there comes a point where you think you're probably gonna get it, but then it's not until you actually get it.
[51:41.320 -> 51:45.600] How does it feel to cross that finish line and know that you're the champion?
[51:46.000 -> 51:51.120] I think it was an amazing feeling, like the best, best, for sure the best moment of my career
[51:51.920 -> 51:53.840] so far and
[51:53.840 -> 51:56.560] yeah, amazing. Like when my engineer told me
[51:57.280 -> 51:59.280] you are the new F2 champion,
[51:59.680 -> 52:00.640] it's,
[52:00.640 -> 52:01.600] I mean,
[52:01.600 -> 52:04.640] I knew I was in a good position, you know, in the last five laps.
[52:04.720 -> 52:07.280] I knew I was in a good position to you know, in the last five laps. I knew I was in a good position to win the championship.
[52:07.280 -> 52:15.320] But you are not sure, you are not 100% sure until you cross the line, until it's official, because it's super important.
[52:15.320 -> 52:19.000] Like, you are here fighting for the F2 Championship.
[52:19.000 -> 52:24.000] And yeah, as soon as I crossed the line, I saw all the mechanics on the pit wall.
[52:24.000 -> 52:26.000] And yeah, my engineer told me,
[52:26.000 -> 52:32.720] you're the new F2 champion. I just, you know, like, cried, just cried, just cried and screamed in the radio.
[52:32.720 -> 52:36.000] Then after, I was so happy. And yeah, it's amazing.
[52:36.000 -> 52:36.600] Amazing.
[52:36.600 -> 52:39.280] I love the clip when you get out of the car and you stand on top of it.
[52:39.280 -> 52:41.280] And it looks like you've rehearsed this.
[52:41.280 -> 52:42.680] Had you rehearsed this?
[52:42.680 -> 52:45.000] Because when you get out of the car, you stand on top of the car and you're like, staring down. I was like, that's've rehearsed this. Had you rehearsed this? It was in the mirror before the race.
[52:45.000 -> 52:48.000] You stand on the top of the car and you're like staring down.
[52:48.000 -> 52:50.000] I'm like, that's been rehearsed.
[52:50.000 -> 52:52.000] I was really happy.
[52:52.000 -> 52:56.000] I wanted to be able to enjoy this moment.
[52:56.000 -> 53:00.000] I was thinking about this moment for a long time because, I mean,
[53:00.000 -> 53:03.000] you know, it's part of the celebration as well.
[53:03.000 -> 53:10.720] And, you know, this is what you get when you win, when you finally win a great championship like this.
[53:10.720 -> 53:15.960] To see all the mechanics, the engineers, the I-manager, my family, just in front of my
[53:15.960 -> 53:16.960] car, it was amazing.
[53:16.960 -> 53:17.960] It was incredible.
[53:17.960 -> 53:18.960] Incredible.
[53:18.960 -> 53:19.960] Incredible.
[53:19.960 -> 53:20.960] That's unbelievable.
[53:20.960 -> 53:31.360] Being the F2 champion now, who do you think wins F2 next year? Hey, that's a tough one because I think there's a lot of good contenders to win this championship.
[53:32.240 -> 53:39.120] I think I would go with my teammate of this year, Victor, first because I think he's really quick
[53:40.400 -> 53:52.000] and he has a good experience as well now. He's a little bit older than me, so he knows how to manage the Formula 2 championship,
[53:52.000 -> 53:55.200] to be a team leader. Now I think he can be.
[53:55.700 -> 53:59.040] So yeah, Victor, Ollie, Ollie Berryman for sure.
[54:00.400 -> 54:04.060] Kimi Antonelli, that's I think a good surprise to see him in F2.
[54:04.060 -> 54:06.120] But he's really quick, he's
[54:06.120 -> 54:11.080] with Prema as well, so when you are with Prema you can fight for the title.
[54:11.080 -> 54:13.920] I think there's also Denis Auger, you know?
[54:13.920 -> 54:19.080] Denis will be in his third season with MP.
[54:19.080 -> 54:21.000] You've had a few battles with Denis, haven't you?
[54:21.000 -> 54:25.200] Sure, sure, in F4, in F3 a little bit as well and during two
[54:25.200 -> 54:30.240] two seasons in F2. I mean he's a great driver, F3 champion and I think
[54:30.240 -> 54:35.640] he will be there, he will be there as well. Fred Veste? Fred is not
[54:35.640 -> 54:43.160] driving next year. Is he not? No. Where's he going? I think he's only doing a simulator for
[54:43.160 -> 54:45.100] Mercedes. Has he announced that?
[54:45.100 -> 54:45.940] Sorry?
[54:45.940 -> 54:46.880] Has he announced that online?
[54:46.880 -> 54:47.800] Do people know that?
[54:47.800 -> 54:50.960] Yeah, I think he's still the reserve driver.
[54:50.960 -> 54:52.200] I think he's still with Mercedes.
[54:52.200 -> 54:56.200] So I assume that he will still be.
[54:56.200 -> 55:00.200] See, we haven't noticed it or that's an exclusive.
[55:00.200 -> 55:01.040] I don't really know.
[55:01.040 -> 55:01.860] I've got no idea.
[55:01.860 -> 55:02.700] No idea.
[55:02.700 -> 55:04.240] Tell me, where is he racing this year?
[55:04.240 -> 55:05.600] No idea. I think he's not racing. Unfortunately for him, yeah've got no idea, no idea. Tell me, where is he racing this year? No idea.
[55:05.600 -> 55:08.600] I think he's not racing, unfortunately for him, yeah.
[55:08.600 -> 55:09.880] Oh, that's a shame, that's a shame.
[55:09.880 -> 55:11.320] Like Jack Doohan, you know,
[55:11.320 -> 55:15.960] he's still a result driver, but nothing else, I think.
[55:15.960 -> 55:17.840] If I was a racing driver, I'd be the same as you,
[55:17.840 -> 55:18.760] I'd want to race.
[55:18.760 -> 55:21.200] I wouldn't want to have a year out and not do anything.
[55:21.200 -> 55:22.560] That's super important.
[55:22.560 -> 55:26.160] And to keep also that momentum,
[55:26.160 -> 55:27.320] for me it was important.
[55:27.320 -> 55:28.560] You know, I'm an F2 champion,
[55:28.560 -> 55:31.480] I think I can still fight for race wins
[55:31.480 -> 55:33.400] or maybe the championship in Japan.
[55:34.240 -> 55:38.200] And yeah, you know, it's good for all the F1 teams
[55:38.200 -> 55:39.640] also to see my performance
[55:39.640 -> 55:43.600] and for them to see like, you know,
[55:43.600 -> 55:45.000] maybe this guy is ready to jump in an F1 car,
[55:47.000 -> 55:49.400] maybe he can help us get some points,
[55:49.400 -> 55:52.640] or I don't know, that's what I'm trying to do.
[55:52.640 -> 55:54.240] Well, before you jump in an F1 car, mate,
[55:54.240 -> 55:57.200] you got to complete the Pit Stop Fastest Lap for a start.
[55:57.200 -> 55:58.720] I know you've got super formula coming up,
[55:58.720 -> 56:00.560] but that honestly isn't shit compared to this,
[56:00.560 -> 56:02.680] because look at the names on this board.
[56:03.840 -> 56:08.640] Where do you, I mean, you're obviously hoping you're going to come top but you didn't seem
[56:08.640 -> 56:09.640] mega confident.
[56:09.640 -> 56:10.640] I have a question.
[56:10.640 -> 56:11.640] Yeah?
[56:11.640 -> 56:14.560] Can I, there is like a warm up lap or no?
[56:14.560 -> 56:17.720] Oh yeah bro, you can get three or four practice laps.
[56:17.720 -> 56:21.080] You can have practice laps to figure it out, get comfortable with the sim and then you
[56:21.080 -> 56:23.320] set three laps, we take the quickest one.
[56:23.320 -> 56:24.320] Crazy, that's perfect.
[56:24.320 -> 56:26.820] Yeah, it's perfect. We can put brake assist on if you need that.
[56:26.820 -> 56:28.060] Racing line if you need it.
[56:28.060 -> 56:29.060] Okay, no problem.
[56:29.060 -> 56:31.340] We will not say it to the camera.
[56:31.340 -> 56:32.340] No.
[56:32.340 -> 56:33.340] Let's do the lap.
[56:33.340 -> 56:34.340] Let's go.
[56:34.340 -> 56:39.380] Tayo Porchair, F2 World Champion on the pit stop, fastest lap.
[56:39.380 -> 56:42.620] This has got to be the most competitive thing you've done in your life.
[56:42.620 -> 56:44.980] Yeah, I take it very seriously.
[56:44.980 -> 56:46.720] The TV is a little bit...
[56:46.720 -> 56:48.200] The TV is, yeah, slightly...
[56:48.200 -> 56:52.600] I think I'm okay to go to Quali.
[56:52.600 -> 56:53.440] Oh, you've only...
[56:53.440 -> 56:54.280] How many laps have you done?
[56:54.280 -> 56:55.120] Three.
[56:55.120 -> 56:55.940] Three?
[56:55.940 -> 56:56.780] You don't want to do any more?
[56:56.780 -> 56:57.920] Because you get three timed laps now.
[56:57.920 -> 56:58.960] So now only three.
[56:58.960 -> 56:59.800] Only three timed laps.
[56:59.800 -> 57:00.880] And we'll take the best one.
[57:00.880 -> 57:01.720] The best one.
[57:01.720 -> 57:02.540] It's okay.
[57:02.540 -> 57:03.380] You okay?
[57:03.380 -> 57:04.220] Yeah?
[57:04.220 -> 57:05.880] Fuck it. Let's fucking do it then. He doesn't give a shit.
[57:05.880 -> 57:06.380] Let's go.
[57:06.880 -> 57:09.480] I gotta say, this guy does not give a damn.
[57:10.200 -> 57:11.520] Heavy brake, get down into turn one.
[57:11.520 -> 57:13.200] Actually heard the pedals squeak there.
[57:13.200 -> 57:15.320] Not usual of an F1 car or an F2 car.
[57:15.320 -> 57:16.240] Oh, and again.
[57:18.240 -> 57:20.360] It sounds like you're stepping on a dog or something.
[57:23.080 -> 57:23.880] Look at the TV.
[57:23.880 -> 57:24.600] Where is the TV?
[57:25.800 -> 57:26.800] How do the pedals feel?
[57:26.800 -> 57:27.800] They feel OK?
[57:27.800 -> 57:32.200] It's OK. I mean, if I have this in the F1 car, I would not be really confident, but...
[57:32.200 -> 57:34.800] It probably can't feel much different to the Alfa Romeo, surely?
[57:36.300 -> 57:37.300] I didn't say that.
[57:42.100 -> 57:47.760] It's looking severely quick now as Théo F2 World Champion of 2023 comes around the
[57:47.760 -> 57:51.280] last turn of the pit stop fastest lap round Austria.
[57:51.280 -> 57:52.280] What can he do?
[57:52.280 -> 57:53.280] There we go.
[57:53.280 -> 57:54.280] Woo!
[57:54.280 -> 57:55.280] Break the TV.
[57:55.280 -> 58:02.280] I would just like to say as well before we give a time, look at that, he hasn't gone
[58:02.280 -> 58:03.280] over track limits.
[58:03.280 -> 58:04.700] Pretty much everyone else.
[58:04.700 -> 58:05.500] That's pretty good. That's a everyone else has. That's pretty good.
[58:05.500 -> 58:06.500] Three clean laps.
[58:06.500 -> 58:07.500] That's really good.
[58:07.500 -> 58:09.500] Ollie Caldwell was in the gravel pretty much every lap.
[58:09.500 -> 58:11.000] Ollie Caldwell didn't even come out.
[58:11.000 -> 58:12.000] Oh yeah, he didn't, did he?
[58:12.000 -> 58:15.500] Brad better be, because he was in the gravel quite a lot.
[58:15.500 -> 58:16.500] I'm feeling the pressure.
[58:16.500 -> 58:18.000] Yeah, you look a bit nervous, mate.
[58:18.000 -> 58:19.000] I won't lie.
[58:19.000 -> 58:21.500] When I told you and I said this is serious, I weren't lying.
[58:21.500 -> 58:28.560] I took it very, very seriously. Thao Porche, F2 World Champion.
[58:28.560 -> 58:31.440] Where do you think you've come on arguably
[58:31.440 -> 58:32.640] a more competitive leaderboard
[58:32.640 -> 58:34.040] than the season that you had?
[58:34.040 -> 58:35.680] Where do you think you may have come?
[58:35.680 -> 58:39.680] I hope, as I said, in the 105s.
[58:39.680 -> 58:43.120] So a little bit in front of Felipe Drogovic.
[58:43.120 -> 58:47.000] But I don't know, know actually it's really close.
[58:47.000 -> 58:50.000] So you want to come top four is what you're saying?
[58:50.000 -> 58:51.000] That's a stretch.
[58:51.000 -> 58:55.000] The goal is to be first, to be P1 every time.
[58:55.000 -> 59:01.000] I've got to say mate, Oscar, I mean he's an F1 driver, he's quick, you know, so it's understandable.
[59:01.000 -> 59:05.440] Pietro, he spends his life in the sim, so he's really good on the sim.
[59:05.440 -> 59:06.440] He's really good, yeah.
[59:06.440 -> 59:07.560] Brad was a bit of a shocker.
[59:07.560 -> 59:09.160] We had no idea that was going to happen.
[59:09.160 -> 59:10.720] But you've got some stiff competition, mate.
[59:10.720 -> 59:11.920] Felipe, a great driver.
[59:11.920 -> 59:14.960] You have beaten the F3 world champion, Gabi Bortoletto.
[59:14.960 -> 59:15.960] That's good already.
[59:15.960 -> 59:16.960] That's pretty good.
[59:16.960 -> 59:17.960] It's, okay.
[59:17.960 -> 59:18.960] Now, Matt Gallagher.
[59:18.960 -> 59:20.320] Do you know Matt Gallagher from P1?
[59:20.320 -> 59:21.320] Yes, sure.
[59:21.320 -> 59:23.120] Yeah, he lives in the sim.
[59:23.120 -> 59:24.120] Like he, every day.
[59:24.120 -> 59:26.600] He loves it. Every day. and you've beaten Matt Gallagher
[59:26.600 -> 59:33.280] Okay, now we're starting to get into some different territory here. These are all racing drivers now Correa 106 you've beaten him
[59:33.280 -> 59:36.780] Okay, you've also beaten Filipe Dragovic. Okay good. So
[59:37.580 -> 59:42.940] So that's we're good from now. We're good. It's only the top four. It's only positive
[59:43.020 -> 59:46.920] Not only did you ruin his race in Jeddah you've also
[59:46.920 -> 59:50.600] beat him on the pit stop fastest lap you've just beaten Oliver thank you
[59:50.600 -> 59:56.080] thank you now in the top three. Tayo Porsche you did the pit stop
[59:56.080 -> 01:00:08.000] fastest lap in a 105.244! You are the winner of the Pitchfork Horsesmob!
[01:00:08.000 -> 01:00:10.000] Yeah!
[01:00:10.000 -> 01:00:12.000] Get on the board, it won't stick!
[01:00:14.000 -> 01:00:16.000] I'm surprised!
[01:00:16.000 -> 01:00:18.000] I'm surprised!
[01:00:18.000 -> 01:00:20.000] By a country mile!
[01:00:20.000 -> 01:00:22.000] A country mile! By two tenths!
[01:00:22.000 -> 01:00:24.000] Guys, guys, I'm surprised!
[01:00:24.000 -> 01:00:28.320] I'm surprised! Because I tried to stay in the track limits
[01:00:28.320 -> 01:00:29.160] to be clean.
[01:00:29.160 -> 01:00:29.980] The track limits, amazing.
[01:00:29.980 -> 01:00:31.960] As I said, I'm not doing this at home.
[01:00:31.960 -> 01:00:33.240] I play Call of Duty.
[01:00:33.240 -> 01:00:34.640] So if you want to play Call of Duty,
[01:00:34.640 -> 01:00:36.600] next time we do a Call of Duty tournament.
[01:00:36.600 -> 01:00:38.360] Yeah, let's do that instead.
[01:00:38.360 -> 01:00:39.920] No, but okay, good.
[01:00:39.920 -> 01:00:40.920] Mate, mega.
[01:00:40.920 -> 01:00:41.760] I'm super.
[01:00:41.760 -> 01:00:44.000] Top of the blitz, get fast and fat.
[01:00:44.000 -> 01:00:45.800] And the Formula 3 champion.
[01:00:45.800 -> 01:00:46.800] That was good.
[01:00:46.800 -> 01:00:49.640] You don't even need to get into Raph 1 now mate.
[01:00:49.640 -> 01:00:50.640] That's it.
[01:00:50.640 -> 01:00:51.640] I'm here.
[01:00:51.640 -> 01:00:52.640] I'm P1 here.
[01:00:52.640 -> 01:00:53.640] That's what matters.
[01:00:53.640 -> 01:00:54.640] I can't believe that mate.
[01:00:54.640 -> 01:00:55.640] What a fucking lap.
[01:00:55.640 -> 01:00:56.640] Amazing.
[01:00:56.640 -> 01:00:58.400] And that was the last one no?
[01:00:58.400 -> 01:00:59.400] Yeah.
[01:00:59.400 -> 01:01:00.400] I knew.
[01:01:00.400 -> 01:01:02.160] Turn 1 was good.
[01:01:02.160 -> 01:01:06.560] When turn 1 in Austria is good, to be honest, that's true.
[01:01:06.560 -> 01:01:10.960] In reality, when you do turn one well, you know that you are going to fight for Paul.
[01:01:12.000 -> 01:01:17.440] Mate, what an epic drive. Honestly, I'll be deadly serious with you. I don't doubt your
[01:01:17.440 -> 01:01:21.760] skills at all. You've just won F2, but like I say, Pietro's always in the sim and he set
[01:01:21.760 -> 01:01:26.000] a blinder of a lap. He beat everyone by a lot and you've just gone and done him by two tenths.
[01:01:26.000 -> 01:01:30.400] We didn't think anyone would beat Pietro because he plays the F1 game all the time, he streams
[01:01:30.400 -> 01:01:31.400] it.
[01:01:31.400 -> 01:01:33.920] To be honest, I'm also shocked.
[01:01:33.920 -> 01:01:41.720] I'm shocked because I know Enzo and Pietro, they drive a lot, the simulator.
[01:01:41.720 -> 01:01:42.880] But it's good, it's good.
[01:01:42.880 -> 01:01:43.880] I enjoyed it a lot.
[01:01:43.880 -> 01:01:44.880] I enjoyed it.
[01:01:44.880 -> 01:01:45.000] It was fun. It's a good man. Cool. Well mate, thanks for coming on the pod. It's good. I enjoyed it a lot. I enjoyed it. It was fun.
[01:01:45.000 -> 01:01:49.000] Cool, well mate, thanks for coming on the pod. It's been a pleasure having you here.
[01:01:49.000 -> 01:01:53.000] I mean, obviously you've flown in, you're flying straight out. So really appreciate you coming on.
[01:01:53.000 -> 01:01:54.000] Thank you so much for coming.
[01:01:54.000 -> 01:02:01.000] Thank you very much. I enjoyed a lot. As I said, you know, first podcast and I do the fastest lap and I had a hot chocolate with a croissant.
[01:02:01.000 -> 01:02:05.920] For me, you know, it's only positives this morning. So thank you
[01:02:05.920 -> 01:02:09.280] very much, nice, it was great. Is there anything else you want to say, anything else you want to
[01:02:09.280 -> 01:02:15.200] plug, anything you've got coming up that you want the people to know? Just a big thank you to
[01:02:15.200 -> 01:02:21.680] everybody that follows me. I mean, it means a lot to me. I know I have a lot of people that support
[01:02:21.680 -> 01:02:25.160] me on the social media, I see it so you know even a
[01:02:25.160 -> 01:02:30.720] small message of support for racing drivers for me it means a lot it means a
[01:02:30.720 -> 01:02:35.240] lot I'm super happy I don't respond to to everybody on social media
[01:02:35.240 -> 01:02:40.480] unfortunately but it's I can see the messages and it means a lot to me it's
[01:02:40.480 -> 01:02:46.560] that little you know plus to to have the extra performance and to be happy
[01:02:46.560 -> 01:02:49.240] so, you know big thank you to everyone and
[01:02:50.000 -> 01:02:54.560] Hopefully I can get to f1. So and yeah, that's my dream
[01:02:54.560 -> 01:03:00.240] So we're hoping for hoping the best for you mate. We really are and one more question as well if you weren't doing racing
[01:03:01.000 -> 01:03:08.020] What do you think you'd be doing? Hey, that's a good one. I think I love sports in general.
[01:03:09.240 -> 01:03:12.480] So I would probably do a job in the, I don't know,
[01:03:12.480 -> 01:03:16.120] like either another sport, like I love basketball.
[01:03:16.120 -> 01:03:18.040] I love playing basketball.
[01:03:18.040 -> 01:03:20.080] I'm not amazing at it, but-
[01:03:20.080 -> 01:03:21.240] You got the height.
[01:03:21.240 -> 01:03:23.740] Exactly, I got the height, it's okay.
[01:03:23.740 -> 01:03:26.000] I mean, I'm a small basketball player, but it's okay.
[01:03:26.000 -> 01:03:27.000] I could be.
[01:03:27.000 -> 01:03:32.000] And yeah, you know, I just, I don't know, I enjoy a lot, like going to the gym.
[01:03:32.000 -> 01:03:36.000] I don't know, jobs, like, yeah, in the sport industry.
[01:03:36.000 -> 01:03:37.000] So I love it.
[01:03:37.000 -> 01:03:38.000] And yeah.
[01:03:39.000 -> 01:03:43.000] Can I just say, you're like the happiest, smiliest person I think we've ever had on the show.
[01:03:43.000 -> 01:03:44.000] Sure, sure.
[01:03:44.000 -> 01:03:46.000] And I saw it in interviews before you come on.
[01:03:46.000 -> 01:03:48.120] Like there's one interview where you'd like crashed
[01:03:48.120 -> 01:03:50.080] or something and you should be annoyed,
[01:03:50.080 -> 01:03:52.200] but you're like, you can tell you're a bit annoyed,
[01:03:52.200 -> 01:03:54.400] but you're like, yeah, no, I'm really annoyed.
[01:03:54.400 -> 01:03:56.160] I'm really upset about this.
[01:03:56.160 -> 01:03:59.320] I'm like, oh my God, this guy is just smiling all the time.
[01:03:59.320 -> 01:04:00.160] Yeah, I mean.
[01:04:00.160 -> 01:04:01.000] It's good, it's good.
[01:04:01.000 -> 01:04:03.080] It's infectious, it makes you wanna smile as well.
[01:04:03.080 -> 01:04:07.040] Sure, I mean, of course, sometimes I'm hungry
[01:04:07.040 -> 01:04:10.200] and I don't know if there is something wrong
[01:04:10.200 -> 01:04:11.840] that happens in my life or I don't know,
[01:04:11.840 -> 01:04:14.840] but I try to smile, I try to smile, it's important,
[01:04:14.840 -> 01:04:17.560] you know, try to enjoy every moment.
[01:04:17.560 -> 01:04:19.960] And, you know, I'm doing this sport,
[01:04:19.960 -> 01:04:22.360] it's an amazing sport, I have to be honest,
[01:04:22.360 -> 01:04:23.720] I have an amazing life.
[01:04:23.720 -> 01:04:25.660] For sure, it's not easy sometimes.
[01:04:25.660 -> 01:04:27.600] There is like ups and downs.
[01:04:27.600 -> 01:04:28.840] It's really tough.
[01:04:28.840 -> 01:04:30.480] There's some really tough moments
[01:04:30.480 -> 01:04:33.200] and to get to the highest level, to Formula One,
[01:04:33.200 -> 01:04:37.240] it's a lot of sacrifices from my family, but also from me.
[01:04:37.240 -> 01:04:41.640] But, you know, in the end, the journey is incredible.
[01:04:41.640 -> 01:04:45.060] You know, I enjoy a lot and it's amazing memories.
[01:04:45.060 -> 01:04:48.140] So I try to smile, I enjoy, you know, it's great.
[01:04:48.140 -> 01:04:49.580] Good man, that's the best way to be.
[01:04:49.580 -> 01:04:50.420] I love that.
[01:04:50.420 -> 01:04:51.920] Mate, thanks for coming on.
[01:04:51.920 -> 01:04:53.520] This was like our Christmas special, basically.
[01:04:53.520 -> 01:04:55.420] It's our last guest episode pretty much before.
[01:04:55.420 -> 01:04:56.380] Yeah, last episode of the year.
[01:04:56.380 -> 01:04:57.420] The year's up.
[01:04:57.420 -> 01:05:00.220] From our side, 2023 has been a mad season.
[01:05:00.220 -> 01:05:02.540] You know, we're just blessed to be doing this
[01:05:02.540 -> 01:05:07.840] and have people like you fucking fly out to just come do this yeah it's crazy I appreciate you coming
[01:05:07.840 -> 01:05:11.280] mate and I wish you all the best in Super Formula I hope to see you in that
[01:05:11.280 -> 01:05:14.440] F1 seat at some point and yeah we'll be following your career for our Super
[01:05:14.440 -> 01:05:18.200] Formula and we do hope to get you in F1 hopefully we'll see you at some point
[01:05:18.200 -> 01:05:22.000] thank you so much for coming on the show mate safe travels to Paris have a lovely
[01:05:22.000 -> 01:05:27.720] time in France Merry Christmas or should I say joyous Noel?
[01:05:27.720 -> 01:05:28.760] Joyous Noel.
[01:05:28.760 -> 01:05:29.600] Joyous Noel.
[01:05:29.600 -> 01:05:30.440] And bon anne.
[01:05:30.440 -> 01:05:32.640] Bonne année, happy new year.
[01:05:34.880 -> 01:05:36.400] Parlez-vous anglais?
[01:05:36.400 -> 01:05:37.240] Oui.
[01:05:37.240 -> 01:05:38.080] Oui.
[01:05:38.080 -> 01:05:38.900] Oui.
[01:05:38.900 -> 01:05:39.740] Oui.
[01:05:39.740 -> 01:05:40.580] No?
[01:05:40.580 -> 01:05:41.400] I don't know what the fuck you just said.
[01:05:41.400 -> 01:05:43.120] Bonne année.
[01:05:43.120 -> 01:05:43.960] Bonne année.
[01:05:43.960 -> 01:05:44.780] Bonne année.
[01:05:44.780 -> 01:05:45.000] What does that mean? It means happy new year. Oh, bonne année. Bonnee. Bon anne? What does that mean? It means happy new year. Oh!
[01:05:45.000 -> 01:05:46.000] Bon anne!
[01:05:46.000 -> 01:05:47.000] Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for watching Pit Stop.
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[01:05:48.000 -> 01:05:49.000] Please give us a thumbs up, hit the subscribe button if you haven't already.
[01:05:49.000 -> 01:05:50.000] All of Teo's links will be down below, go and give him a follow.
[01:05:50.000 -> 01:05:51.000] And yeah, Teo, thank you so much.
[01:05:51.000 -> 01:05:52.000] We'll see you soon.
[01:05:52.000 -> 01:05:53.000] Thanks, buddy.
[01:05:53.000 -> 01:05:54.000] Top of the leaderboard!
[01:05:54.000 -> 01:05:55.000] Let's go, bro, thank you so much.
[01:05:55.000 -> 01:05:56.000] Thank you.
[01:05:56.000 -> 01:05:57.000] Thank you.
[01:05:57.000 -> 01:05:58.000] Thank you.
[01:05:58.000 -> 01:05:59.000] Thank you.
[01:05:59.000 -> 01:06:00.000] Thank you.
[01:06:00.000 -> 01:06:01.000] Thank you.
[01:06:01.000 -> 01:06:02.000] Thank you.
[01:06:02.000 -> 01:06:03.000] Thank you.
[01:06:03.000 -> 01:06:04.000] Thank you.
[01:06:04.000 -> 01:06:05.160] Thank you. Thank you. Thank soon. Thank you, thanks buddy. Cool.
[01:06:05.160 -> 01:06:06.000] Top of the leaderboard.
[01:06:06.000 -> 01:06:08.840] Let's go, bro.
[01:06:08.840 -> 01:06:09.680] Thank you so much.
[01:06:09.680 -> 01:06:10.520] Thank you.
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