Shyam Rajdev's journey into the Formula 1 Paddock & Working with the Drivers

Welcome back to the Pitstop Podcast! Our guest today is a special one because he has done so much for us. In and out of the paddock, this guy has helped the Pitstop Podcast to continue to grow and get some amazing opportunities. It's Shyam Rajdev, head of social media and content creation for Alfa Romeo F1 team! Shy is such a dude, the last time we saw him was in Zandvoort so it was great to catch up again. We hope you enjoy this episode, it's a funny one! Join us every Monday & Thursday for more crazy stories and laughter. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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**Navigating the World of Formula One: An Interview with Shy, the Content Creator of Alfa Romeo**

**Introduction:**

* The Pit Stop Podcast welcomes Shy, the content creator for Alfa Romeo, who played a pivotal role in securing interviews with Valtteri Bottas and Zhou Guanyu for the podcast.
* Shy's background is diverse, ranging from music journalism to social media management, with a knack for capturing moments through photography.

**Shy's Journey to Formula One:**

* Shy's entry into the world of Formula One was unconventional, starting with an internship at a PR agency that transitioned from action sports and motorsports to music.
* He worked with various artists in the music industry, including Chance the Rapper and Zane Lowe, before moving to the Monster Energy side of the agency.
* At Monster, Shy managed content for their UK and Ireland channels, covering over 52 events during the summer period.
* Seeking career progression, Shy joined Atlantic Records, where he worked with artists like Anne-Marie, Jess Glynne, and Stormzy, creating content for their social channels.

**The Opportunity with Lewis Hamilton:**

* Shy received an opportunity to work with Lewis Hamilton's team as a social media manager, but the COVID-19 pandemic disrupted his plans.
* He eventually joined McLaren for a year, focusing on fashion-related content and trackside activities.

**Joining Alfa Romeo:**

* Shy's desire for a more hands-on role led him to Alfa Romeo, where he became the content creator for the team.
* He is responsible for creating engaging content across various platforms, including social media and the team's website.

**The Scooter Ban in the Paddock:**

* The recent ban on scooters in the paddock is discussed, with Shy revealing that he discovered this during the last race.
* The hosts express their amusement at the timing of the ban, considering their recent episode featuring scooters.

**Shy's Role and Responsibilities at Alfa Romeo:**

* Shy emphasizes the importance of adaptability and multitasking in his role, as he is involved in various aspects of content creation.
* He highlights the collaborative nature of the team and the incredible work ethic of everyone involved.

**Shy's Gift to the Podcast:**

* Shy presents the hosts with a framed photo he took, capturing the essence of the podcast's atmosphere.
* The hosts express their gratitude and excitement about displaying the photo in their studio.

**Conclusion:**

* The interview concludes with Shy expressing his fulfillment in his current role at Alfa Romeo, which aligns with his passion for Formula One and his desire to be trackside.
* The hosts commend Shy for his diverse career path and his ability to adapt and excel in different industries. # **Podcast Episode Summary: The Life of a Formula One Content Creator**

**Hosts:** Jake Boys, Fabio Bocca
**Guest:** Callum Smith

**Key Points:**

* Callum Smith is a content creator for Alfa Romeo F1 Team.
* His role involves capturing photos and videos of the team's drivers, cars, and activities.
* He works closely with the drivers and team members to create engaging and informative content for social media and other platforms.
* Callum's job requires him to travel frequently to race weekends and other events.
* He enjoys the fast-paced and dynamic nature of his work.
* Callum emphasizes the importance of adaptability and creativity in his role.
* He strives to find new and innovative ways to tell the story of the Alfa Romeo F1 Team.
* Callum highlights the challenges of balancing work and personal life, especially with the demanding schedule of Formula One.
* He values the opportunity to work with talented and passionate individuals in the F1 paddock.
* Callum shares anecdotes about his experiences, including attending exclusive events and interacting with celebrities.
* He discusses the importance of maintaining a professional demeanor while also fostering personal relationships with the drivers and team members.
* Callum expresses his love for motorsports and his passion for capturing the essence of Formula One.

**Insights:**

* Formula One content creators play a vital role in shaping the image and narrative of the sport.
* The job requires a deep understanding of the sport, technical expertise, and creative storytelling skills.
* Content creators must be adaptable and innovative to keep up with the fast-paced nature of Formula One.
* The lifestyle of a Formula One content creator can be demanding, but it also offers unique opportunities and experiences.

**Controversies:**

* None discussed in the podcast.

**Quotes:**

* "It's nonstop. It's just go, go, go, go, go." - Callum Smith, describing the demanding schedule of a Formula One content creator.
* "I'm stoked at the deal. And we've got more races next year, assuming you're still gonna be around next year or you're gonna slot off to another team next year." - Jake Boys, expressing his excitement about the upcoming Formula One season.
* "I love this job. The team are insane, they're great. And the drivers are great." - Callum Smith, expressing his passion for his work with the Alfa Romeo F1 Team.

**Overall Message:**

The podcast provides an insightful look into the life of a Formula One content creator, highlighting the challenges, rewards, and unique experiences of this dynamic role. Callum Smith's passion for motorsports and his dedication to capturing the essence of Formula One shine through in his work. **Navigating the Technicalities of Formula One Photography and Content Creation: A Discussion with Shai Babior**


**Introduction:**

In this episode of the Pit Stop Podcast, Jake Boys and Fabio Bocca engage in a captivating conversation with Shai Babior, a talented photographer and content creator in the world of Formula One. Shai shares his insights, experiences, and advice on pursuing a career in motorsport photography and content creation.


**Key Discussion Points:**


- **Camera Equipment and Setup:**
- Shai emphasizes the importance of using professional equipment to capture high-quality images and videos. He currently uses a Canon R5 camera with various lenses, including the 15-35mm, 24-70mm, and 70-200mm.


- **Personal Preference and Adaptability:**
- Shai stresses that photographers should experiment with different brands and models of cameras to find the ones that best suit their needs and preferences. He highlights the importance of adaptability, as photographers often need to switch between brands and models based on their evolving requirements.


- **Building a Portfolio:**
- Shai recommends building a strong portfolio to showcase one's skills and expertise. He suggests starting with lower division races and gradually working up to Formula One events. Additionally, he advises photographers to focus on building relationships with brands and smaller organizations to gain experience and exposure.


- **Content Creation Beyond Photography:**
- Shai emphasizes the importance of creating diverse content beyond still photography. He suggests exploring video production, social media engagement, and storytelling to captivate audiences and stand out in the competitive field of motorsport content creation.


- **The Power of Social Media:**
- Shai highlights the significance of social media platforms in promoting one's work and connecting with fans and potential clients. He encourages photographers and content creators to actively engage with their audience, share behind-the-scenes content, and create interactive experiences.


- **Challenges and Rewards of Working in Formula One:**
- Shai acknowledges the challenges of working in Formula One, including long hours, travel demands, and intense competition. However, he emphasizes the immense satisfaction and fulfillment that comes from being part of such a prestigious and exciting sport.


- **Advice for Aspiring Motorsport Photographers and Content Creators:**
- Shai encourages aspiring professionals to pursue their passion relentlessly, even if it means starting with small projects and working their way up. He emphasizes the importance of networking, building relationships, and continuously honing one's skills to succeed in this competitive industry.


**Conclusion:**

The Pit Stop Podcast's conversation with Shai Babior provides valuable insights and practical advice for aspiring motorsport photographers and content creators. Shai's emphasis on adaptability, portfolio building, and diverse content creation resonates with the ever-evolving landscape of Formula One media. His passion for the sport and his dedication to capturing its essence through his work serve as an inspiration to those seeking to make their mark in this thrilling and competitive field.

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[01:00.540 -> 01:04.400] You came to an event where we had the scooters, right? Like that's done now. There's no more
[01:04.400 -> 01:05.680] scooters. No, really?
[01:05.680 -> 01:06.500] They've been banned.
[01:06.500 -> 01:09.120] Well, they're actually not allowed in the paddock.
[01:09.120 -> 01:11.180] So I found this out at the last race.
[01:11.180 -> 01:12.020] Yeah, exactly.
[01:12.020 -> 01:12.840] Exactly.
[01:12.840 -> 01:14.520] It's funny how they've been banned.
[01:14.520 -> 01:15.360] The week after we had the scooters.
[01:15.360 -> 01:17.200] Exactly, you guys show up.
[01:17.200 -> 01:22.200] Ladies and gents, welcome back to another episode
[01:30.320 -> 01:32.120] Ladies and gents, welcome back to another episode of the Pit Stop Podcast. Wow, it's been an intense few days.
[01:32.120 -> 01:33.640] You've had two pods out this week.
[01:33.640 -> 01:35.280] Yeah, we've really been hitting it hard.
[01:35.280 -> 01:37.040] We're still not quite recovered from Switzerland.
[01:37.040 -> 01:38.040] We're not.
[01:38.040 -> 01:42.000] But we've got a very exciting guest of us today because it is the man that made everything
[01:42.000 -> 01:43.000] happen.
[01:43.000 -> 01:45.360] This guy has really gone above and beyond for us
[01:45.360 -> 01:47.480] in these last couple of weeks.
[01:47.480 -> 01:49.400] And we can't thank him enough.
[01:49.400 -> 01:51.400] Ladies and gents, it is Shy.
[01:51.400 -> 01:53.200] Boys, boys, what an intro.
[01:53.200 -> 01:54.680] What an intro.
[01:54.680 -> 01:56.200] I've come here, I've brought a gift,
[01:56.200 -> 01:57.600] I've broken some stuff.
[01:57.600 -> 01:59.480] Literally grasping it in the hand.
[01:59.480 -> 02:01.360] He's been here for five seconds,
[02:01.360 -> 02:02.200] he's dropped the camera and broken it.
[02:02.200 -> 02:04.240] Literally, not even five, it's like 10 seconds,
[02:04.240 -> 02:05.480] I've smashed my camera.
[02:06.680 -> 02:07.960] To give you a little bit of backstory,
[02:07.960 -> 02:10.120] this is the guy that got us,
[02:10.120 -> 02:12.080] that basically got us to Zambort,
[02:12.080 -> 02:13.520] helped us out so much in the paddock.
[02:13.520 -> 02:14.920] Without you, there's no way we would have got
[02:14.920 -> 02:15.760] Bottas and Joe.
[02:15.760 -> 02:16.760] I had a team involved, but you know,
[02:16.760 -> 02:17.920] I was just stoked to have you.
[02:17.920 -> 02:18.960] You were the instigator.
[02:18.960 -> 02:19.800] You were the one who were like,
[02:19.800 -> 02:21.240] we need to get these guys.
[02:21.240 -> 02:22.080] Do you know what?
[02:22.080 -> 02:24.600] You boys deserve to be there, so, and like, yeah.
[02:24.600 -> 02:26.840] I'm so stoked with how that episode turned out and stuff.
[02:26.840 -> 02:27.840] So it was all worth it.
[02:27.840 -> 02:28.840] How did you even find us?
[02:28.840 -> 02:32.040] I listened to your podcast through, what was the podcast?
[02:32.040 -> 02:36.880] The first podcast I think I listened to was Jensen Buttons, I think.
[02:36.880 -> 02:37.880] Oh, okay.
[02:37.880 -> 02:38.880] Yeah.
[02:38.880 -> 02:39.880] Yeah.
[02:39.880 -> 02:40.880] Because I follow, I follow, I can't remember who it was now.
[02:40.880 -> 02:45.240] Or maybe it was earlier because I follow Lissy and Hannah and they came on as well.
[02:45.240 -> 02:46.840] So I'm pretty sure I saw those TikToks
[02:46.840 -> 02:49.400] and then I listened to the actual Jenson Button podcast.
[02:49.400 -> 02:51.560] I was like, oh, all right, these boys are cool.
[02:51.560 -> 02:53.000] All right, let's see what they're about.
[02:53.000 -> 02:54.840] I feel like it's a bit of a risk
[02:54.840 -> 02:56.560] getting us out to like the paddock and stuff.
[02:56.560 -> 02:57.960] Cause you just don't know like what,
[02:57.960 -> 02:59.360] we're not very like by the book.
[02:59.360 -> 03:01.240] So fair play to you for taking a risk.
[03:01.240 -> 03:02.080] Dude, you know what?
[03:02.080 -> 03:02.900] We behaved.
[03:02.900 -> 03:04.600] Yeah, for the most part.
[03:04.600 -> 03:08.200] For what we could, I think we could say on the podcast. Do you know what we behaved? Yeah. Oh yeah. For the most part. I think we can say the podcast.
[03:08.200 -> 03:09.480] Do you want to just quickly give the people
[03:09.480 -> 03:12.200] before we tell show that amazing thing you're holding.
[03:12.200 -> 03:13.580] Do you want to just quickly tell the people what it is
[03:13.580 -> 03:14.420] you do at Alphramode?
[03:14.420 -> 03:15.260] Yeah. Okay.
[03:15.260 -> 03:18.400] So I am the content creator for the team
[03:18.400 -> 03:20.200] and I guess kind of like a hybrid role.
[03:20.200 -> 03:22.940] So I'm like social media manager slash content creator.
[03:22.940 -> 03:25.000] But I feel like I've been in that role for like
[03:29.160 -> 03:29.720] Every job every job I've been it been into now. You can't really just do
[03:31.780 -> 03:32.240] One or the other it's got to be both Yeah
[03:32.240 -> 03:34.240] You know if you don't and you're you're kind of like
[03:34.640 -> 03:38.840] Missing out or losing out because it's gonna be someone who can who can who can do both, right?
[03:38.840 -> 03:42.820] Yeah, so there's a lot of that in Formula One isn't a lot like people doing like double jobs
[03:42.820 -> 03:46.320] But I feel like I feel like offers like a quite unique isn't it? A lot. Like people doing like double jobs in it. But I feel like, I feel like Alfa is like a quite unique scenario
[03:46.320 -> 03:48.840] because there is, we're like,
[03:48.840 -> 03:50.800] other teams have got like huge teams.
[03:50.800 -> 03:51.640] Alfa is quite small.
[03:51.640 -> 03:52.600] It's a very, very small team
[03:52.600 -> 03:54.200] and everybody's all hands on deck.
[03:54.200 -> 03:55.560] They're like an insane team.
[03:55.560 -> 03:57.400] They're like work over, overclock.
[03:57.400 -> 03:58.520] They're all absolute machines.
[03:58.520 -> 03:59.360] Everyone that we've met is unreal.
[03:59.360 -> 04:00.180] Oh, insane.
[04:00.180 -> 04:01.020] Such an amazing family.
[04:01.020 -> 04:02.120] I'm so glad to be part of it.
[04:02.120 -> 04:02.960] Insane.
[04:02.960 -> 04:03.960] We're going to have to get into your whole career
[04:03.960 -> 04:05.180] and how you got to where you are,
[04:05.180 -> 04:07.480] but I need to know what this is in front of us.
[04:07.480 -> 04:08.520] You bought us a gift.
[04:08.520 -> 04:11.480] I was, I was, so I saw on the pod last time,
[04:11.480 -> 04:13.200] there was, there it is.
[04:13.200 -> 04:14.040] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[04:14.040 -> 04:14.880] There is, yeah.
[04:14.880 -> 04:16.620] So I was like, I kind of want to show up with something,
[04:16.620 -> 04:18.560] you know, so I probably should,
[04:18.560 -> 04:19.880] I should have opened this before, really.
[04:19.880 -> 04:21.080] Do you want some scissors or a knife or something?
[04:21.080 -> 04:22.680] I might be able to slide it out,
[04:22.680 -> 04:24.800] but I was like, what's something personal?
[04:24.800 -> 04:25.640] Oh my God.
[04:25.640 -> 04:26.560] Oh my God.
[04:28.520 -> 04:29.640] Oh my God.
[04:29.640 -> 04:31.120] That is unbelievable.
[04:31.120 -> 04:31.960] That is sick.
[04:31.960 -> 04:32.800] So, um,
[04:32.800 -> 04:34.120] That is so sick.
[04:34.120 -> 04:35.720] Here's the things you can hang them up with.
[04:35.720 -> 04:36.560] No way.
[04:36.560 -> 04:38.600] That is gonna look amazing in the background.
[04:38.600 -> 04:39.680] I was like, something personal.
[04:39.680 -> 04:40.560] I shot the photos.
[04:40.560 -> 04:42.520] I was like, let me give something from me to you.
[04:42.520 -> 04:43.360] Yep.
[04:43.360 -> 04:44.200] I don't know where you're gonna stick it.
[04:44.200 -> 04:45.840] Do you know what? Just have all the hooks in this place. Do you know what? We should have all the hooks.
[04:45.840 -> 04:47.000] Do you know what we need?
[04:47.000 -> 04:48.720] We'll definitely get a place for that.
[04:48.720 -> 04:49.640] That is so sick.
[04:49.640 -> 04:50.800] That's such a cool photo.
[04:50.800 -> 04:51.640] Do you know what?
[04:51.640 -> 04:53.120] This is actually not originally.
[04:53.120 -> 04:53.960] You gotta sign it.
[04:53.960 -> 04:54.800] Oh mate, do you know what?
[04:54.800 -> 04:55.620] Do you know what?
[04:55.620 -> 04:57.360] Can I practice it and like maybe sign it after?
[04:57.360 -> 05:00.520] Cause I haven't written anything in a very long time.
[05:00.520 -> 05:03.340] No, you've got to practice on there.
[05:03.340 -> 05:05.000] My handwriting is so bad. My handwriting is so bad. for a long time. I'm practising so long.
[05:05.000 -> 05:05.840] My handwriting is so bad.
[05:05.840 -> 05:06.660] My handwriting is so bad.
[05:06.660 -> 05:07.500] It's so bad.
[05:07.500 -> 05:08.340] It's so, so bad.
[05:08.340 -> 05:09.160] It's so, so bad.
[05:09.160 -> 05:10.920] But yeah, no, I hope you like it.
[05:10.920 -> 05:13.940] But I was like, so this was one of the smaller sizes, right?
[05:13.940 -> 05:16.240] So I originally picked a big,
[05:16.240 -> 05:18.360] it was almost like a metre by metre,
[05:18.360 -> 05:19.720] and I was like, yeah, that'd be fine.
[05:19.720 -> 05:20.560] That's not that big.
[05:20.560 -> 05:21.380] And I was like, actually,
[05:21.380 -> 05:22.220] and then my girlfriend was like,
[05:22.220 -> 05:24.720] yeah, maybe go smaller just in case.
[05:24.720 -> 05:26.880] No, that's the perfect size we can stick that that's definitely
[05:26.880 -> 05:30.520] somewhere you could fit but we got a few gaps because we always move the
[05:30.520 -> 05:33.820] background around sometimes I'll guess is there sometimes they're there so we
[05:33.820 -> 05:37.680] can move it around but you know these guys don't even get to see what's
[05:37.680 -> 05:43.800] around right now this is so cool yeah you don't really expect it to be no not
[05:43.800 -> 05:45.400] all set up like this in the lounge.
[05:45.400 -> 05:45.900] It's a sick set.
[05:45.900 -> 05:46.900] Not really, but I love it.
[05:46.900 -> 05:47.400] I love it.
[05:47.400 -> 05:48.400] We just need a few more lights, maybe.
[05:48.400 -> 05:49.200] Or something over there.
[05:49.200 -> 05:50.400] The thing is, it's home for you guys, isn't it?
[05:50.400 -> 05:51.400] So you can be more chill.
[05:51.400 -> 05:52.900] Yeah, that's the thing.
[05:52.900 -> 05:56.900] And we were really chill for this episode, because we know this is probably the one we've been most chill for.
[05:56.900 -> 05:57.400] Yeah.
[05:57.400 -> 05:58.400] Every other guest will be a bit-
[05:58.400 -> 05:59.700] Dude, after the last one, of course!
[05:59.700 -> 06:00.200] Yeah.
[06:00.200 -> 06:02.900] Come on, that was like the most stress I think you guys have ever felt.
[06:02.900 -> 06:04.900] Oh my god, I was so sleep deprived.
[06:04.900 -> 06:05.000] Dude, I was panicking. That was like the most stress I think you guys have ever been under. What did you think when I texted you that night?
[06:05.000 -> 06:08.000] I was panicking. So I was out at dinner, right?
[06:08.000 -> 06:11.000] And I saw this call come through after it came through.
[06:11.000 -> 06:13.000] I was like, I should probably just check.
[06:13.000 -> 06:15.000] And I was like, what's going on? What's happened?
[06:15.000 -> 06:17.000] And then Kather was calling.
[06:17.000 -> 06:18.000] So what's going on?
[06:18.000 -> 06:21.000] And then I heard your voice note or something.
[06:21.000 -> 06:23.000] You're like, the flight's canceled.
[06:23.000 -> 06:25.200] I was like, what do we do? How do we get you guys there? Like figure it out. Maybe you guys can't remember how long. You're like, the flight's canceled. I was like, fuck, what do we do?
[06:25.200 -> 06:26.960] How do we get you guys there?
[06:26.960 -> 06:27.800] Like figure it out.
[06:27.800 -> 06:29.920] Maybe you guys can do it, whatever.
[06:29.920 -> 06:31.560] And then, and then you message saying,
[06:31.560 -> 06:32.720] you're gonna fucking drive.
[06:32.720 -> 06:34.640] I was like, what?
[06:34.640 -> 06:35.840] I thought you were joking.
[06:35.840 -> 06:37.600] That's a, that's a, how long was the drive?
[06:37.600 -> 06:38.440] How long was it?
[06:38.440 -> 06:40.520] It was from Luton, cause we were in Luton, right?
[06:40.520 -> 06:41.480] I thought it was Heathrow.
[06:41.480 -> 06:42.320] No, we had to drive.
[06:42.320 -> 06:43.140] That's even worse.
[06:43.140 -> 06:44.600] Luton to Folkestone, two hours,
[06:44.600 -> 06:46.000] and then like nine hours the other side. I can't even drive a manual, so Fab had to do pretty Luton to Folkestone in two hours and then like nine hours the other
[06:46.000 -> 06:47.000] side.
[06:47.000 -> 06:50.000] I can't even drive a manual so Fab had to do pretty much the whole drive.
[06:50.000 -> 06:51.000] That's insane.
[06:51.000 -> 06:52.000] Well no, but you did do the whole drive.
[06:52.000 -> 06:53.000] You did do the whole drive.
[06:53.000 -> 06:55.000] Well no, you held the steering wheel once when I took the jump off.
[06:55.000 -> 06:57.000] I did hold the steering wheel once when you took the jump off.
[06:57.000 -> 06:58.000] Which yeah, was nice.
[06:58.000 -> 06:59.800] It was nice to have like a short break.
[06:59.800 -> 07:01.320] And then you killed a rabbit.
[07:01.320 -> 07:03.320] You seen the video?
[07:03.320 -> 07:05.360] I've seen the video, yeah.
[07:05.360 -> 07:06.840] Dude, my face in it, I'm just like...
[07:06.840 -> 07:11.920] Bro, it was like heartbreak, because you're there, and they're like...
[07:11.920 -> 07:14.560] It was 10 seconds after we got off the Eurotunnel.
[07:14.560 -> 07:17.200] We come straight out of France, it happened straight away.
[07:17.200 -> 07:20.640] And then we get to Alfa Romeo, and at that point, we're shattered.
[07:20.640 -> 07:21.640] Of course, man.
[07:21.640 -> 07:22.640] We haven't even stopped.
[07:22.640 -> 07:25.200] The only time we stopped was to get some food or go to the toilet.
[07:25.200 -> 07:26.040] Or you had like a 45 minute nap.
[07:26.040 -> 07:27.600] I had like a 20 minute nap
[07:27.600 -> 07:28.800] because I was barely sleeping.
[07:28.800 -> 07:29.920] A small window, right?
[07:29.920 -> 07:30.760] Yeah.
[07:30.760 -> 07:31.580] To get there.
[07:31.580 -> 07:33.800] Honestly, like we had half an hour when we got there.
[07:33.800 -> 07:35.460] So like we had to make the early train.
[07:35.460 -> 07:36.340] Oh, it was just nuts.
[07:36.340 -> 07:38.120] It was like a MI5 mission, wasn't it?
[07:38.120 -> 07:40.320] Yeah, literally we pulled up half an hour before.
[07:40.320 -> 07:41.760] I can't believe you boys drove.
[07:41.760 -> 07:42.960] Shame you weren't there, bro.
[07:42.960 -> 07:43.800] Yeah, I know.
[07:43.800 -> 07:45.440] I know, I know, I know.
[07:45.440 -> 07:46.700] I was doing like other events and stuff.
[07:46.700 -> 07:48.180] Cause I do like freelance bits on the side.
[07:48.180 -> 07:50.740] So, but man, I'm stoked you guys made it though.
[07:50.740 -> 07:51.580] Yeah, we saw Chris.
[07:51.580 -> 07:52.400] And it turned out really well.
[07:52.400 -> 07:53.880] It was really, it was, it was really nice.
[07:53.880 -> 07:54.860] It was a really good episode.
[07:54.860 -> 07:55.860] I think the boys were good.
[07:55.860 -> 07:56.700] Yeah, 100%.
[07:56.700 -> 07:57.940] I thought they responded well.
[07:57.940 -> 08:01.300] Yeah, I've never like, they seem so relaxed as well.
[08:01.300 -> 08:03.300] Like usually when, usually it's like the same questions
[08:03.300 -> 08:05.080] and stuff, but the podcast is like really chill.
[08:05.080 -> 08:05.920] It's like.
[08:05.920 -> 08:08.000] They did like a whole day of, of like press and stuff.
[08:08.000 -> 08:08.840] Didn't they?
[08:08.840 -> 08:11.040] So we was like, you know, if they're tired, it is what it is.
[08:11.040 -> 08:11.860] But now they showed up.
[08:11.860 -> 08:13.520] So I'm stoked at work.
[08:13.520 -> 08:15.160] To be fair, all the questions you were going to ask,
[08:15.160 -> 08:16.480] you said that you completely forgot.
[08:16.480 -> 08:17.680] Completely went out my head, man.
[08:17.680 -> 08:19.000] You were probably delirious at that point.
[08:19.000 -> 08:19.920] We were so delirious.
[08:19.920 -> 08:21.880] If you, our eyes were so glazed over,
[08:21.880 -> 08:24.080] we got back in the car after we had to drive to hotel.
[08:24.080 -> 08:25.360] I just looked at Fab. And I was like, we got out tonight then. And his eyes are just like completely glazed over. We got back in the car after we had to drive to the hotel. I just looked at Fab.
[08:25.360 -> 08:26.680] And I was like, we got out tonight then.
[08:26.680 -> 08:29.560] And his eyes are just like completely glazed over.
[08:29.560 -> 08:30.400] And we actually-
[08:30.400 -> 08:31.220] Even Joe said it afterwards.
[08:31.220 -> 08:32.060] Joe was like, you look fucked.
[08:32.060 -> 08:32.900] I am, bro.
[08:32.900 -> 08:33.740] I really am.
[08:33.740 -> 08:34.560] Yeah.
[08:34.560 -> 08:35.400] Oh, man.
[08:35.400 -> 08:37.400] That was an amazing journey.
[08:37.400 -> 08:38.240] Thank you so much for this.
[08:38.240 -> 08:39.080] Nah, mate.
[08:39.080 -> 08:39.900] It's a full team fight.
[08:39.900 -> 08:42.280] This man sat here is the reason we had the drivers on.
[08:42.280 -> 08:43.440] You have to take credit.
[08:43.440 -> 08:44.260] Nah, not at all.
[08:44.260 -> 08:46.440] You did everything. Honestly, it's you guys though. Like, come on. The work that you guys have reason we had the drivers on. You have to take credit. You did everything. Honestly, it's all you guys though.
[08:46.440 -> 08:48.800] Like, come on, the work that you guys have put in
[08:48.800 -> 08:49.680] over the past year.
[08:49.680 -> 08:51.200] Like, when did you even start this podcast?
[08:51.200 -> 08:52.480] February.
[08:52.480 -> 08:53.320] What?
[08:53.320 -> 08:54.160] Yeah, February.
[08:54.160 -> 08:55.000] The end of Feb.
[08:55.000 -> 08:56.040] Yeah, no way.
[08:56.040 -> 08:56.880] Yeah, it was end of Feb.
[08:56.880 -> 08:58.320] It was the last week in Feb, wasn't it?
[08:58.320 -> 08:59.720] We were looking back at the clips yesterday
[08:59.720 -> 09:00.840] because we'd been like filming loads
[09:00.840 -> 09:01.660] of behind the scenes stuff.
[09:01.660 -> 09:02.500] Yeah, but end of Feb.
[09:02.500 -> 09:04.480] Boys, you know how insane that is?
[09:04.480 -> 09:05.320] It's pretty crazy, yeah. That that is? It's pretty crazy.
[09:05.320 -> 09:06.200] Yeah.
[09:06.200 -> 09:07.040] It's pretty crazy.
[09:07.040 -> 09:08.800] Cause this is a sport that millions of people
[09:08.800 -> 09:09.800] would love to work here.
[09:09.800 -> 09:11.560] And like, we've kind of within seven months
[09:11.560 -> 09:12.480] just built this.
[09:12.480 -> 09:14.680] But I think it's only worked because we're new
[09:14.680 -> 09:16.560] and like there's so many other new fans that
[09:16.560 -> 09:17.380] I think so.
[09:17.380 -> 09:19.360] It gives them a way to learn with us.
[09:19.360 -> 09:20.640] With you go on that with journey.
[09:20.640 -> 09:21.480] Yeah.
[09:21.480 -> 09:22.300] We were talking about it in our pod last night.
[09:22.300 -> 09:24.440] It's like the coolest way to learn without a doubt.
[09:24.440 -> 09:26.160] Cause we, we were at the races and we're pulling people. It's like the coolest way to learn without a doubt. Cause we were at the races
[09:26.160 -> 09:28.320] and we're pulling people from the races here
[09:28.320 -> 09:29.920] and then getting like the behind the scenes story.
[09:29.920 -> 09:31.320] Just throwing yourself into the mix
[09:31.320 -> 09:32.480] and just being in the thick of it
[09:32.480 -> 09:34.080] is like the best way to learn.
[09:34.080 -> 09:35.760] And I don't feel like there's been any pressure on us
[09:35.760 -> 09:37.280] cause no one knew us in the beginning.
[09:37.280 -> 09:39.400] So we didn't have to try and pretend to be like anyone.
[09:39.400 -> 09:42.240] It's like, there's a lot of red tape to get in.
[09:42.240 -> 09:44.400] But I think once you're in, you're in.
[09:44.400 -> 09:46.240] So like, you know, how many friends
[09:46.240 -> 09:47.080] do you have across the paddock?
[09:47.080 -> 09:49.280] Every time I was like seeing you with someone different,
[09:49.280 -> 09:50.960] like, who's this person?
[09:50.960 -> 09:53.260] Do you know what, I'm surprised like not everyone's chipped.
[09:53.260 -> 09:54.880] Like once you're a part of the paddock family,
[09:54.880 -> 09:57.360] I'm surprised they don't put like a little like micro thing
[09:57.360 -> 09:58.200] in your wrist or something.
[09:58.200 -> 09:59.020] Where are the boys?
[09:59.020 -> 09:59.860] Where are they?
[09:59.860 -> 10:00.700] Who are they talking to now?
[10:00.700 -> 10:02.200] To be fair, that's what we thought the guy from the FIA was.
[10:02.200 -> 10:05.480] He's got a jacket from the FIA that we see every day,
[10:05.480 -> 10:07.160] like every minute, the same guy.
[10:07.160 -> 10:08.000] And he's always like,
[10:08.000 -> 10:10.080] he's always like, how did you get here?
[10:10.080 -> 10:10.920] How have you got here?
[10:10.920 -> 10:12.720] Oh, for God's sake, how have you got here now?
[10:12.720 -> 10:14.000] But like in a serious way or like?
[10:14.000 -> 10:14.840] No, he's joking.
[10:14.840 -> 10:16.200] He's a little legend.
[10:16.200 -> 10:17.040] It's quite funny though,
[10:17.040 -> 10:18.280] making friends throughout the paddock.
[10:18.280 -> 10:19.120] Everyone just knows everyone.
[10:19.120 -> 10:20.680] You know everyone as well.
[10:20.680 -> 10:21.880] Not every, not yet.
[10:21.880 -> 10:22.720] I'm getting there.
[10:22.720 -> 10:24.480] You've been on a career path.
[10:24.480 -> 10:25.360] Do you know what? I've been through so many teams now. I feel like, I feel like I just getting there. You've been on a career path. Do you know what?
[10:25.360 -> 10:26.400] I've been through so many teams now.
[10:26.400 -> 10:28.040] I feel like I just like-
[10:28.040 -> 10:29.080] Are you a public slut like us?
[10:29.080 -> 10:29.920] Yeah, yes.
[10:29.920 -> 10:32.160] I just got to get through the wall.
[10:32.160 -> 10:33.680] I just got to go from one end to the other.
[10:33.680 -> 10:35.680] Why don't we start with like where you actually started?
[10:35.680 -> 10:36.920] Yeah, go from the very beginning.
[10:36.920 -> 10:38.440] How did you get into the sport?
[10:38.440 -> 10:40.720] Like uni, college, where did you, how did that work?
[10:40.720 -> 10:43.320] So I didn't, so it's so weird
[10:43.320 -> 10:45.960] cause I didn't do like anything motorsport related at uni.
[10:45.960 -> 10:48.520] I did music journalism.
[10:48.520 -> 10:50.760] So I went down the music path
[10:50.760 -> 10:54.960] and did start doing like attending festivals and events
[10:54.960 -> 10:55.840] since that, which was wicked.
[10:55.840 -> 10:57.360] I got to interview some like insane artists
[10:57.360 -> 10:58.560] like Chance the Rapper and like,
[10:58.560 -> 11:00.420] no, like sick, sick artists.
[11:01.640 -> 11:04.240] And then started doing music photography,
[11:04.240 -> 11:06.120] like the photography alongside the journalism.
[11:06.120 -> 11:08.560] So when magazines would send me to an event,
[11:08.560 -> 11:11.200] I would do all the photo coverage
[11:11.200 -> 11:13.120] and do the interviews and stuff,
[11:13.120 -> 11:15.160] or do like a write up, or this album's come out,
[11:15.160 -> 11:16.320] like all the photos and stuff.
[11:16.320 -> 11:17.660] Did you do live shows as well?
[11:17.660 -> 11:18.500] Like capture them?
[11:18.500 -> 11:19.320] Yeah, yeah, everything.
[11:19.320 -> 11:21.920] So it was mostly live, in all fairness.
[11:21.920 -> 11:25.360] And then I ended up, as soon as I left uni,
[11:25.360 -> 11:28.500] I ended up working for, or even before I left uni,
[11:28.500 -> 11:33.060] I approached this PR agency who were,
[11:33.060 -> 11:34.800] they were like working,
[11:34.800 -> 11:36.180] they were covering like Relentless Energy.
[11:36.180 -> 11:37.140] And Relentless Energy at the time
[11:37.140 -> 11:39.400] was going through a transition
[11:39.400 -> 11:41.020] between Coca-Cola and Monster.
[11:41.020 -> 11:42.480] This all makes sense in a second.
[11:42.480 -> 11:43.860] But because of this transition,
[11:43.860 -> 11:45.860] Relentless had to jump from action sports, motorsports to music, because they couldn't clash with Monster, this will make sense in a second, but because of this transition, Relentless had to jump from action sports,
[11:45.860 -> 11:48.040] action sports, motor sports to music
[11:48.040 -> 11:49.800] because they couldn't clash with Monster,
[11:49.800 -> 11:51.880] which was action sports and motor sports
[11:51.880 -> 11:52.720] and stuff like that.
[11:52.720 -> 11:55.540] So Relentless went to the music scene
[11:55.540 -> 12:00.220] and they chose like UK urban music and electronic music.
[12:00.220 -> 12:03.180] And so they sponsored like Leeds Festival
[12:03.180 -> 12:07.760] and a bunch of artists, they had a studio on Denmark street and then iteds Festival and a bunch of artists that had a studio on Denmark street.
[12:07.760 -> 12:09.440] And then it's had like a bunch of artists
[12:09.440 -> 12:10.520] and stuff come through.
[12:10.520 -> 12:12.920] And I ended up going to do an interview
[12:12.920 -> 12:15.600] with Zane Lowe and Hugh Stevens.
[12:15.600 -> 12:16.520] And I think-
[12:16.520 -> 12:18.120] Hugh Stevens, I know Hugh.
[12:18.120 -> 12:18.960] Yeah.
[12:18.960 -> 12:23.960] And one of the guys from Biffy Clara was there,
[12:24.560 -> 12:26.720] but I don't know, don't remember his name.
[12:26.720 -> 12:27.560] So I went to go do this event.
[12:27.560 -> 12:29.000] Some Scottish bloke.
[12:29.000 -> 12:30.280] Exactly, exactly.
[12:30.280 -> 12:31.720] So I went to go do this.
[12:33.160 -> 12:35.480] And at the event, the people who were organizing this event
[12:35.480 -> 12:37.320] were this PR agency.
[12:37.320 -> 12:39.280] And they just got chatting to them.
[12:39.280 -> 12:40.440] I was like, look, can I,
[12:40.440 -> 12:41.780] have you guys got any roles available?
[12:41.780 -> 12:42.920] I'm just about to graduate uni.
[12:42.920 -> 12:44.660] And they were like, actually, we're looking for an intern.
[12:44.660 -> 12:45.800] So I went on, did an intern,
[12:45.800 -> 12:47.120] they were like, can you start next week?
[12:47.120 -> 12:48.000] They were literally next week.
[12:48.000 -> 12:50.640] So it was like the Thursday was this event
[12:50.640 -> 12:51.480] where we were doing the interviews.
[12:51.480 -> 12:53.560] And the Monday was the Monday I started.
[12:53.560 -> 12:55.960] So we ended up doing a bunch of stuff with Relentless.
[12:55.960 -> 12:57.920] And then because of this whole transition,
[12:57.920 -> 12:59.560] Relentless went in-house into Monster.
[12:59.560 -> 13:02.520] So I was doing a bunch of music stuff through Relentless.
[13:02.520 -> 13:03.800] It was mostly through their studio,
[13:03.800 -> 13:07.400] like shooting with like AJ Tracy and Novelist.
[13:07.400 -> 13:08.240] It all like grime, mostly grime.
[13:08.240 -> 13:10.000] You've done some serious people though.
[13:10.000 -> 13:10.840] I didn't realise it was like this.
[13:10.840 -> 13:13.520] And before the electronics side was like,
[13:13.520 -> 13:14.840] cause they had the festival at Leeds.
[13:14.840 -> 13:18.200] So they had like, oh, I can't remember the names.
[13:18.200 -> 13:20.880] Den Mouse played that stage, DJ Fresh.
[13:22.280 -> 13:23.680] Alexis King's, I mean.
[13:23.680 -> 13:25.000] You mean Fabs Man there.
[13:25.000 -> 13:25.820] Yeah.
[13:25.820 -> 13:26.660] I mean.
[13:26.660 -> 13:29.500] They were on the smallest page.
[13:29.500 -> 13:30.700] There was a bunch of artists, right?
[13:30.700 -> 13:32.440] I can't remember them all.
[13:32.440 -> 13:34.700] But I ended up just like saying like,
[13:34.700 -> 13:35.980] there was a role available on the monster side.
[13:35.980 -> 13:37.880] And I was like, look, the action sports,
[13:37.880 -> 13:40.280] motor sports side is sort of more my vibe.
[13:40.280 -> 13:41.480] I love music, don't get me wrong.
[13:41.480 -> 13:44.480] But this is sort of where I want to be.
[13:44.480 -> 13:46.040] And so I jumped over to the monster side
[13:46.040 -> 13:49.960] and then managed their entire UK, Ireland channels,
[13:49.960 -> 13:52.920] content for every, all their like 52 events
[13:52.920 -> 13:56.020] over like the period of like the summer period.
[13:56.020 -> 13:59.320] Did all of that for two years, I think.
[13:59.320 -> 14:00.720] And then the second year I was like,
[14:00.720 -> 14:02.320] do you know what, I need to progress
[14:02.320 -> 14:03.440] and you try and do something different
[14:03.440 -> 14:05.700] because it's kind of like the same thing over and over.
[14:05.700 -> 14:07.180] So then I ended up jumping from there
[14:07.180 -> 14:08.620] and I worked at Atlantic Records.
[14:08.620 -> 14:09.740] So I went back into music.
[14:09.740 -> 14:10.580] Oh, wow.
[14:10.580 -> 14:11.400] Under Warner.
[14:11.400 -> 14:13.500] So I was there for, I was there for,
[14:14.820 -> 14:16.240] under two, it must've been like two years,
[14:16.240 -> 14:19.340] maybe just under, worked across,
[14:19.340 -> 14:22.420] it was like 21 artists was on my personal roster.
[14:22.420 -> 14:24.620] So doing like, when you get like music videos
[14:24.620 -> 14:27.120] that come through, you chop them up and make little edits
[14:27.120 -> 14:28.840] and stuff for their social channels.
[14:28.840 -> 14:30.040] I didn't manage all of their channels.
[14:30.040 -> 14:31.400] I did not know you did.
[14:31.400 -> 14:32.840] This is crazy.
[14:32.840 -> 14:33.680] This is unreal.
[14:33.680 -> 14:34.920] Such different worlds, right?
[14:34.920 -> 14:38.000] So like, yeah, so I did like Anne-Marie,
[14:38.000 -> 14:39.740] did Jess Glynn, Birdie.
[14:41.240 -> 14:44.000] Come on, skinny love, just let me.
[14:44.000 -> 14:44.840] Exactly.
[14:44.840 -> 14:45.500] Oh that one? Yeah. Exactly. Hold on.
[14:45.500 -> 14:46.340] Yeah.
[14:46.340 -> 14:49.800] I did Stormzy's, so Stormzy's latest,
[14:49.800 -> 14:52.380] latest album before he went quiet on socials.
[14:52.380 -> 14:53.800] I worked across that one.
[14:53.800 -> 14:54.640] Do you know Mabdoul then?
[14:54.640 -> 14:55.840] Cause he, of course you know Mabdoul.
[14:55.840 -> 14:57.940] So I know Mabdoul now,
[14:57.940 -> 15:00.520] but I didn't know him when I was at,
[15:00.520 -> 15:01.360] when I was at Atlantic.
[15:01.360 -> 15:02.200] Right.
[15:02.200 -> 15:03.900] Yeah. We are weirdly, our paths never really crossed.
[15:03.900 -> 15:08.180] Cause I didn't, I didn't go to, I I didn't go to all of the music shoots and stuff.
[15:08.180 -> 15:09.020] Yeah, so.
[15:09.020 -> 15:10.620] He worked with Stormzy, I think he went on tour with Stormzy.
[15:10.620 -> 15:12.300] Yeah, yeah.
[15:12.300 -> 15:13.820] It's a small world, man.
[15:13.820 -> 15:14.660] It's insane.
[15:14.660 -> 15:15.900] But like, there's a lot of that.
[15:15.900 -> 15:19.580] So anyways, I jumped from this to,
[15:19.580 -> 15:20.580] what happened after this?
[15:20.580 -> 15:22.100] I think the Lewis thing,
[15:22.100 -> 15:23.900] so I ended up working with Lewis Hamilton.
[15:23.900 -> 15:25.840] So after Stormzy's album,
[15:25.840 -> 15:28.140] I was like out the door after a month.
[15:28.140 -> 15:30.260] So I was like, okay, I've done like a bunch of projects now.
[15:30.260 -> 15:34.300] I've got so much on my record, my portfolio.
[15:34.300 -> 15:35.140] So like, what's next?
[15:35.140 -> 15:37.140] What else can I do?
[15:37.140 -> 15:42.020] And someone from Lewis's team approached me
[15:42.020 -> 15:44.140] because the link there,
[15:44.140 -> 15:47.160] originally when I said it was cause Monster obviously sponsored Lewis
[15:47.160 -> 15:48.880] and they have their personal,
[15:48.880 -> 15:50.020] they had their personal contract,
[15:50.020 -> 15:51.960] whether they do or not anymore, I don't know.
[15:51.960 -> 15:53.920] So Lewis has his own Monster Energy can.
[15:53.920 -> 15:58.920] And so, someone at Monster talked to Lewis's team
[16:00.360 -> 16:02.760] or Lewis's old manager and was like,
[16:02.760 -> 16:04.920] there's a guy here if you're looking for
[16:04.920 -> 16:07.160] social media manager, or I think it was the other way around,
[16:07.160 -> 16:08.680] like we're looking for someone, do you know anyone?
[16:08.680 -> 16:10.320] And then my name was brought up.
[16:10.320 -> 16:13.360] And then I think it was like a three stage interview,
[16:13.360 -> 16:16.640] got through and then it was like months, it took ages.
[16:16.640 -> 16:17.880] I was like, yeah, this might not happen.
[16:17.880 -> 16:19.440] And then they were like, got the call,
[16:19.440 -> 16:22.080] like yeah, you got the job, do you wanna come?
[16:22.080 -> 16:24.840] And your final round is doing like a personality test
[16:24.840 -> 16:28.000] with Lewis, went to go meet him, did this personality test.
[16:28.000 -> 16:29.280] Oh shit, that's fucking stressful.
[16:29.280 -> 16:30.480] Dude, I was, I was stressing.
[16:30.480 -> 16:32.880] What does a personality test look like with Lewis Hallowood?
[16:32.880 -> 16:37.040] Well, it's just, it's just like, like we're doing now. So just like meet up, ask each
[16:37.040 -> 16:41.040] other questions just because the, the idea was that I was going to be on the road with him
[16:41.680 -> 16:45.200] doing all this content and stuff like that.
[16:46.960 -> 16:48.440] And then COVID here, obviously, but anyway, so this is that, I'm jumping the gun a bit,
[16:48.440 -> 16:52.080] but so that happened, was doing everything
[16:52.080 -> 16:54.580] like sort of fashion related, all the track stuff.
[16:55.580 -> 16:57.640] And then because it was like the first year
[16:57.640 -> 17:01.160] that it happened, I was in Australia
[17:01.160 -> 17:02.600] and Australia was when they were like,
[17:02.600 -> 17:06.440] okay, COVID's happening guys, like take it seriously.
[17:06.760 -> 17:08.000] And then the race got called off.
[17:08.260 -> 17:13.320] And so the T I think teams across the paddock then were like reduced to like
[17:13.700 -> 17:17.940] the absolute bare minimum who needs to make that car run and get the points and
[17:17.940 -> 17:20.200] like, obviously make the social channels run, blah, blah, blah.
[17:20.280 -> 17:20.560] Yep.
[17:21.020 -> 17:26.740] And because my role at that time wasn't considered like high priority, it isn't.
[17:26.740 -> 17:28.880] Nothing I do would make the car run.
[17:28.880 -> 17:30.640] They were like, you just got to stay home,
[17:30.640 -> 17:32.740] just do the general coverage
[17:32.740 -> 17:34.820] and people will feed you content.
[17:34.820 -> 17:35.660] And that was it.
[17:35.660 -> 17:37.580] So I was like, wow, this sucks.
[17:37.580 -> 17:39.560] It was like, it was there.
[17:39.560 -> 17:43.520] And I'm like, I did all this like stuff for like four,
[17:43.520 -> 17:44.960] maybe I can't remember the timing, but yeah,
[17:44.960 -> 17:46.760] a couple of months anyways.
[17:46.760 -> 17:47.960] And then it was like,
[17:47.960 -> 17:48.800] yep, ah.
[17:48.800 -> 17:49.640] Exactly.
[17:49.640 -> 17:50.460] Whisked away.
[17:50.460 -> 17:51.300] Exactly.
[17:51.300 -> 17:52.600] So after that, I stayed, I did,
[17:52.600 -> 17:54.060] I stayed for a while,
[17:54.060 -> 17:57.400] and I ended up doing a bunch of stuff anyways.
[17:57.400 -> 17:59.480] It was all good, it was all really fun things
[17:59.480 -> 18:01.440] to look back on, but yeah,
[18:01.440 -> 18:02.280] I was just decided, look,
[18:02.280 -> 18:04.640] I need to be more hands-on, you know?
[18:04.640 -> 18:08.260] I need to actually do what I was hired to do.
[18:08.260 -> 18:11.480] And then the McLaren role.
[18:11.480 -> 18:12.760] What, you went to McLaren?
[18:12.760 -> 18:13.600] So I was at McLaren all of last year.
[18:13.600 -> 18:15.920] This is just like a, the story is nuts.
[18:15.920 -> 18:17.240] So it was like doing freelance in between.
[18:17.240 -> 18:19.120] So I was doing like photo shoots, so like Formula E,
[18:19.120 -> 18:20.640] which is, yeah, Formula E and stuff,
[18:20.640 -> 18:22.560] which is like right around the corner.
[18:22.560 -> 18:24.320] And like, so I saw the signs were coming out.
[18:24.320 -> 18:25.180] We went to it, that's a nice bar. It's insane. And like, so I saw the signs were coming out. We went to it.
[18:25.180 -> 18:26.580] It's insane.
[18:26.580 -> 18:28.780] So, so yeah, I ended up working with a few teams
[18:28.780 -> 18:31.800] in Formula E now, just doing content creation and stuff.
[18:33.140 -> 18:34.860] And then some stuff with like two wheels as well.
[18:34.860 -> 18:37.860] It's like working with, with brands and just like, yeah,
[18:37.860 -> 18:39.140] it's been, it's been insane.
[18:39.140 -> 18:41.940] So I did McLaren last year and then towards the end,
[18:41.940 -> 18:44.180] I was like, I want, I want a bit more.
[18:44.180 -> 18:45.960] I'm like, I need that step up again,
[18:45.960 -> 18:47.140] I wanna be track side.
[18:48.060 -> 18:51.260] And then the role with Alpha popped up and they're like,
[18:51.260 -> 18:54.040] you know, we need someone who can do everything.
[18:54.040 -> 18:55.160] Yeah, I'm your man.
[18:55.160 -> 18:57.480] And that's what you wanted, you wanted to get hands on.
[18:57.480 -> 18:58.320] Yeah.
[18:58.320 -> 19:01.040] Do you know what, the more I meet people like you
[19:01.040 -> 19:03.360] and you in particular, the more I get fascinated
[19:03.360 -> 19:08.340] with like how you people work, like it's very easy to assume that you're a photographer and
[19:08.340 -> 19:10.920] then you just found this opportunity right yeah but after hearing your
[19:10.920 -> 19:13.740] stories you realize like the graph that you've been in and the stages that
[19:13.740 -> 19:16.860] you've been in but you've been working at like a high level yeah this whole
[19:16.860 -> 19:20.460] journey it's not as if you've been doing like there's never been a break so like
[19:20.460 -> 19:24.780] you know even like there was there was so many like like torn up decisions as
[19:24.780 -> 19:25.080] well because there's such they're not they are contrasting entries the music So like, you know, even like there was, there was so many like, like torn up decisions as well,
[19:25.080 -> 19:26.800] because there's such, they're not,
[19:26.800 -> 19:27.920] they are contrasting industries,
[19:27.920 -> 19:29.800] the music and the motorsport world, you know,
[19:29.800 -> 19:33.160] if you go down one, you kind of shut off the other.
[19:33.160 -> 19:35.300] And so whilst I still have that passion for like music
[19:35.300 -> 19:37.360] and doing all these live events,
[19:37.360 -> 19:39.600] go to festivals and whatnot, cause it's insane.
[19:39.600 -> 19:43.220] It's an insane time that happens in such a short space of,
[19:43.220 -> 19:44.680] you know, like, for instance, if you do,
[19:44.680 -> 19:47.800] when I did that, like the albums and stuff for Atlantic,
[19:47.800 -> 19:51.400] it's such like a, at the time, it's like, this is huge.
[19:51.400 -> 19:52.360] Like it's massive.
[19:52.360 -> 19:54.080] But then you leave that bubble and you're like,
[19:54.080 -> 19:57.400] actually this wasn't as big as I thought it was, you know?
[19:57.400 -> 19:59.260] So that's why every time I leave, I'm like,
[19:59.260 -> 20:00.440] oh, what's next?
[20:00.440 -> 20:02.220] What's the next thing?
[20:02.220 -> 20:03.600] But I'm stoked now, you know?
[20:03.600 -> 20:05.740] Cause like, this is what I wanted to do.
[20:05.740 -> 20:07.500] This track side roll was what I was supposed to do
[20:07.500 -> 20:10.580] with Lewis before the COVID stuff happened and whatnot.
[20:10.580 -> 20:11.780] So yeah.
[20:11.780 -> 20:12.820] It seems like a pretty cool job.
[20:12.820 -> 20:14.580] We just see you scooting around everywhere
[20:14.580 -> 20:15.420] with a camera, taking photos.
[20:15.420 -> 20:16.240] Do you know what?
[20:16.240 -> 20:17.740] You came to an event where we had the scooters, right?
[20:17.740 -> 20:19.220] Like that's done now.
[20:19.220 -> 20:20.180] There's no more scooters.
[20:20.180 -> 20:21.020] No, really?
[20:21.020 -> 20:21.860] They've been banned.
[20:21.860 -> 20:24.500] Well, they're actually not allowed in the paddock.
[20:24.500 -> 20:26.480] So I found this out at the last race. Yeah, really. They've been banned. Well, they're actually not allowed in the paddock. So I found this out at the last race.
[20:26.480 -> 20:27.320] Yeah, exactly.
[20:27.320 -> 20:28.140] Exactly.
[20:28.140 -> 20:29.800] Isn't it funny how they've been banned?
[20:29.800 -> 20:30.640] The week after we've had a race.
[20:30.640 -> 20:31.460] Because of my fucking toes.
[20:31.460 -> 20:32.300] You guys are so right.
[20:32.300 -> 20:34.480] Look at these boys.
[20:34.480 -> 20:36.820] This is what, this is what.
[20:36.820 -> 20:38.400] They ban it, we go over.
[20:38.400 -> 20:39.240] I love that.
[20:39.240 -> 20:40.080] With the F1 in the background, that is so sick.
[20:40.080 -> 20:41.560] Yeah, yeah, that's why I chose this one.
[20:41.560 -> 20:42.400] Yeah, that was amazing.
[20:42.400 -> 20:43.220] Because the other ones were like,
[20:43.220 -> 20:46.360] nah, this is a bit more VIP access and whatnot.
[20:46.360 -> 20:47.880] Do you know, we'll have exclusive access
[20:47.880 -> 20:49.480] to the scooters I reckon, next year.
[20:49.480 -> 20:50.920] Yeah, and Shai's gonna be our plus one.
[20:50.920 -> 20:52.840] The drivers, like they can do it.
[20:52.840 -> 20:53.680] Oh yeah, they can do whatever they want.
[20:53.680 -> 20:55.680] So is everybody else supposed to just run after them?
[20:55.680 -> 20:56.800] I don't, do you know what I mean?
[20:56.800 -> 20:57.640] Yeah.
[20:57.640 -> 20:58.480] It's a bit weird, I don't know, anyway.
[20:58.480 -> 21:00.480] They had a load of bikes, didn't they in Zambour?
[21:00.480 -> 21:01.320] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[21:01.320 -> 21:02.400] Yeah, totally, a load of bike.
[21:02.400 -> 21:03.320] Yeah, there's loads of bikes.
[21:03.320 -> 21:05.120] Loads of bikes, loads of scooters.
[21:05.120 -> 21:08.940] But I think it was a weird setup though, the paddock there.
[21:08.940 -> 21:10.200] So like you kind of need something
[21:10.200 -> 21:11.040] to get from one side to the other.
[21:11.040 -> 21:12.000] Because they were separate, right?
[21:12.000 -> 21:14.120] You know, especially in this role,
[21:14.120 -> 21:16.520] you are running all the time, you know, on your feet.
[21:16.520 -> 21:17.640] Yeah, you were always between.
[21:17.640 -> 21:18.640] Back and forth, back and forth.
[21:18.640 -> 21:21.760] Because you're in the garage, shooting, filming,
[21:21.760 -> 21:23.200] and then you're running back to edit and post.
[21:23.200 -> 21:25.240] Because like, it's, like the teams are competing, right? They're competing're running back to edit and post, because like, it's,
[21:25.240 -> 21:26.760] like the teams are competing, right?
[21:26.760 -> 21:28.440] They're competing on track, but it's,
[21:28.440 -> 21:30.320] nowadays, they're competing off track.
[21:30.320 -> 21:34.160] It's, and through social media, you know?
[21:34.160 -> 21:37.240] Like, the other day, or very recently,
[21:37.240 -> 21:39.200] maybe yesterday even, I think the Mercedes boys
[21:39.200 -> 21:42.000] hit 10 million on Instagram, and all the people
[21:42.000 -> 21:43.840] working in there were like, posting on LinkedIn and stuff,
[21:43.840 -> 21:45.680] and then you see the guys at McLaren,
[21:45.680 -> 21:47.160] like, oh, we missed out.
[21:47.160 -> 21:48.240] Cause there's competition there.
[21:48.240 -> 21:49.080] You know?
[21:49.080 -> 21:49.900] Like-
[21:49.900 -> 21:50.740] Yeah, for sure.
[21:50.740 -> 21:51.580] The social teams want to be better
[21:51.580 -> 21:52.400] than the other social teams.
[21:52.400 -> 21:53.240] That's it.
[21:53.240 -> 21:54.080] That's it.
[21:54.080 -> 21:54.900] You have to one up each other and stuff.
[21:54.900 -> 21:56.200] So if you can, if you can't be like,
[21:56.200 -> 21:57.120] I don't have a massive team.
[21:57.120 -> 21:58.480] It's just me running, running the show there.
[21:58.480 -> 21:59.360] But like, you know, if-
[21:59.360 -> 22:00.200] Just you.
[22:00.200 -> 22:01.600] And you weren't truly out running the show.
[22:01.600 -> 22:02.960] It's, it's, it's hard, man.
[22:02.960 -> 22:04.640] Like I'm, yeah, all the full,
[22:04.640 -> 22:06.060] all the photography, filming, like we'll do like partner content and stuff show. It's hard, man. Like I'm, yeah, all the photography, filming,
[22:06.060 -> 22:07.880] like we'll do like partner content and stuff.
[22:07.880 -> 22:09.820] Like it's all, yeah.
[22:09.820 -> 22:10.660] But it's-
[22:10.660 -> 22:11.820] It's what you wanted to do, hands on.
[22:11.820 -> 22:12.880] Like you want to be a big part of it.
[22:12.880 -> 22:14.780] Exactly, I'm stoked to be able to do it, honestly.
[22:14.780 -> 22:16.740] I'm really, I love this job.
[22:16.740 -> 22:18.780] The team are insane, they're great.
[22:18.780 -> 22:20.080] And the drivers are great.
[22:21.180 -> 22:22.540] Yeah, it's just, it's nonstop.
[22:22.540 -> 22:23.860] It's just go, go, go, go, go.
[22:23.860 -> 22:25.500] I was going to ask that, how'd you find it? How'd you find like being away so much? You said you've got a girlfriend at home. Yeah, it's just, it's nonstop. It's just go, go, go, go, go. I was going to ask that. How'd you find it?
[22:25.500 -> 22:27.520] How'd you find like being away so much?
[22:27.520 -> 22:28.480] You said you got a girlfriend at home.
[22:28.480 -> 22:29.800] Yeah, it's tough, man.
[22:29.800 -> 22:30.720] It's not easy.
[22:32.120 -> 22:36.120] Yeah, I was listening to like even F1 Mech's podcast
[22:36.120 -> 22:37.040] and he was saying the same thing.
[22:37.040 -> 22:38.320] Like he's got a kid as well, I think.
[22:38.320 -> 22:39.200] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[22:39.200 -> 22:40.040] It's hard, man.
[22:40.040 -> 22:41.240] Like people genuinely,
[22:41.240 -> 22:42.960] they've got like full families sitting at back home
[22:42.960 -> 22:44.320] and you're doing double, triple head.
[22:44.320 -> 22:46.080] Like the one we've just done was a triple
[22:46.080 -> 22:48.140] and like, it's hard dude.
[22:48.140 -> 22:49.640] Cause you miss out on so much.
[22:49.640 -> 22:51.520] Like all your friends are going out doing stuff
[22:51.520 -> 22:54.200] and you get major FOMO, but at the same time you're like,
[22:54.200 -> 22:55.040] do you know what?
[22:55.040 -> 22:57.800] This is what I signed up for.
[22:57.800 -> 23:00.400] I'm gonna do the absolute best I can.
[23:00.400 -> 23:03.240] And then, you know, yeah, it's not easy,
[23:03.240 -> 23:05.520] but I'm doing what I love and that's it.
[23:05.520 -> 23:06.600] So it's a great job.
[23:06.600 -> 23:07.440] I think it's great.
[23:07.440 -> 23:08.720] Dude, I absolutely love it.
[23:08.720 -> 23:10.320] It's it's don't get me, don't get me wrong.
[23:10.320 -> 23:11.160] It is hard.
[23:11.160 -> 23:15.420] Like it is physically, mentally, whatever exhausting,
[23:15.420 -> 23:17.580] but it's so rewarding at the same time to see
[23:17.580 -> 23:21.120] that you've been part of this, this story almost,
[23:21.120 -> 23:23.700] you know, for this, for this year anyways.
[23:24.920 -> 23:26.600] Yeah. I'm stoked at the deal.
[23:26.600 -> 23:28.080] And we've got more races next year,
[23:28.080 -> 23:29.720] assuming you're still gonna be around next year
[23:29.720 -> 23:32.280] or you're gonna slot off to another team next year.
[23:32.280 -> 23:33.120] Well, well.
[23:33.120 -> 23:37.680] I need to tick off the rest of the paddock.
[23:37.680 -> 23:39.440] The pit stop F40.
[23:39.440 -> 23:42.160] That needs to happen.
[23:42.160 -> 23:43.760] That definitely needs to happen.
[23:43.760 -> 23:46.120] That's a plan, we definitely will look into.
[23:46.120 -> 23:47.440] We can start recruiting all these people
[23:47.440 -> 23:49.000] that we have on Calum's gonna be the mechanic.
[23:49.000 -> 23:49.840] Shard's gonna be on camera.
[23:49.840 -> 23:50.680] Imagine we actually did that.
[23:50.680 -> 23:51.500] You got a team here.
[23:51.500 -> 23:52.480] You got drivers already.
[23:52.480 -> 23:53.320] You got-
[23:53.320 -> 23:54.140] So true.
[23:54.140 -> 23:54.980] I know, we actually have.
[23:54.980 -> 23:56.320] You're gonna get a team principal.
[23:56.320 -> 23:57.160] Oh, that'd be us.
[23:57.160 -> 23:58.960] We're gonna be shared team principals.
[23:58.960 -> 23:59.800] What else do you need?
[23:59.800 -> 24:01.680] One of us is gonna be the race engineer.
[24:01.680 -> 24:02.900] Who's gonna be HR?
[24:05.000 -> 24:06.640] What's that?
[24:07.480 -> 24:08.300] HR, huh? What?
[24:08.300 -> 24:09.440] I'm going to be second driver.
[24:09.440 -> 24:10.940] So he's going to be race engineer
[24:10.940 -> 24:11.780] and team boss at the same time.
[24:11.780 -> 24:13.360] And first driver's Josh Schubergen.
[24:13.360 -> 24:14.200] Like Zach Brown.
[24:14.200 -> 24:15.640] Yeah, I'll keep everything under control.
[24:15.640 -> 24:16.480] Don't worry about me.
[24:16.480 -> 24:19.160] He's got it, he's got it on lock.
[24:19.160 -> 24:20.880] Yeah, Zandvoort was amazing for us,
[24:20.880 -> 24:22.260] but I'm curious to know, like,
[24:22.260 -> 24:23.600] cause I remember texting you and you were like,
[24:23.600 -> 24:24.880] yeah, I'm getting pictures with the drivers
[24:24.880 -> 24:25.800] and you were doing all that stuff.
[24:25.800 -> 24:27.280] So what day did you get there?
[24:27.280 -> 24:28.960] And what does your weekend look like?
[24:28.960 -> 24:30.400] Like, so what are your requirements?
[24:30.400 -> 24:33.320] And yeah, so we, depends on the race.
[24:33.320 -> 24:35.360] Cause like the flyaways we get there earlier,
[24:35.360 -> 24:38.360] just so the team can like acclimatize and stuff to
[24:38.360 -> 24:40.080] said location.
[24:40.080 -> 24:44.120] But like these, usually these, these short hall ones,
[24:44.120 -> 24:45.880] we get there on the Wednesday.
[24:45.880 -> 24:48.040] And then there's a bit of work to do
[24:48.040 -> 24:50.440] and set up and stuff for like most of the team.
[24:50.440 -> 24:53.840] But our work like just hits Thursday, Thursday morning.
[24:53.840 -> 24:55.680] Cause the media days are now moved.
[24:55.680 -> 24:59.160] So I think last year they were on the Wednesday
[25:00.000 -> 25:02.200] or they were on, I actually don't know.
[25:02.200 -> 25:03.960] It was Wednesday, right?
[25:03.960 -> 25:05.280] Yeah, it was Wednesday in Zanvyl.
[25:05.280 -> 25:07.000] So basically everything shifted.
[25:07.000 -> 25:10.720] So the Thursdays now are like media days.
[25:10.720 -> 25:12.640] Don't take my word for that.
[25:12.640 -> 25:13.760] But basically for us anyways,
[25:13.760 -> 25:15.360] we get there Thursday, Thursday.
[25:15.360 -> 25:16.200] Da da da da da.
[25:16.200 -> 25:17.520] Da da da da da.
[25:17.520 -> 25:18.760] Da da da da da.
[25:18.760 -> 25:20.080] Da da da da da.
[25:20.080 -> 25:22.600] Welcome to Petsnuffer's house.
[25:23.640 -> 25:26.180] I don't even know what they have're about. He's one of us.
[25:27.320 -> 25:29.400] You boys are still delirious, aren't you?
[25:29.400 -> 25:31.200] Yeah, oh yeah.
[25:31.200 -> 25:32.720] Hey, we get there on the Thursday.
[25:32.720 -> 25:34.620] It's a bunch of media duties,
[25:34.620 -> 25:37.800] doing all the filming content and stuff like partners
[25:37.800 -> 25:39.680] and internal messages and stuff.
[25:40.560 -> 25:41.920] And then you do your track walks.
[25:41.920 -> 25:44.560] And then Friday is when the actual weekend
[25:44.560 -> 25:45.600] sort of happens
[25:45.600 -> 25:46.560] and kicks off.
[25:46.560 -> 25:50.640] So straight into FP1, FP2,
[25:50.640 -> 25:53.720] could be a sprint race on the Saturday or quali.
[25:53.720 -> 25:55.280] And then it's race on Sunday.
[25:55.280 -> 25:58.100] So it's, Thursdays are usually insane.
[25:58.100 -> 26:01.280] Cause you're, it's like a bunch of like obligations
[26:01.280 -> 26:02.880] and immediate duties.
[26:02.880 -> 26:04.240] Are you literally just getting WhatsApp
[26:04.240 -> 26:05.040] by someone being like, the drivers are here, come get photos of them. Like, how does it work there. You literally just get them WhatsApp by someone being like,
[26:05.040 -> 26:06.640] the drivers are here, come get photos of them.
[26:06.640 -> 26:07.480] Like how does it work there?
[26:07.480 -> 26:08.800] Do you just follow them around?
[26:08.800 -> 26:12.680] Usually, I mean, it's kind of, it's sort of like free, right?
[26:12.680 -> 26:16.920] It's the good thing about F1 is that you can be very like,
[26:16.920 -> 26:19.240] they sort of leave you to your creative devices, right?
[26:19.240 -> 26:21.120] So there's no set way to do it.
[26:21.120 -> 26:22.720] And you don't want to do the same thing every race.
[26:22.720 -> 26:25.020] I don't want to do the same thing every race. I don't want to do the same thing every race.
[26:26.520 -> 26:29.400] So yeah, it's basically like, you just get there,
[26:29.400 -> 26:31.880] see what's cool, what's great about the location,
[26:31.880 -> 26:34.280] or is there anything fun happening that week,
[26:34.280 -> 26:36.280] or if the drivers have special helmets they're launching,
[26:36.280 -> 26:37.920] or anything that might be happening,
[26:37.920 -> 26:39.880] you're like, okay, how do we tell this story?
[26:39.880 -> 26:41.760] How do we deliver this on our platforms?
[26:41.760 -> 26:43.520] And is it down to you to keep your finger on the pulse
[26:43.520 -> 26:45.440] with that stuff, so you know what's happening.
[26:45.440 -> 26:46.800] This is happening this week.
[26:46.800 -> 26:47.800] Let's film that.
[26:47.800 -> 26:50.100] So there's like, there'll be meetings like weeks
[26:50.100 -> 26:52.680] or that week or weeks in advance to say,
[26:52.680 -> 26:54.280] okay, this is happening next week.
[26:54.280 -> 26:55.240] What's the plan for this?
[26:55.240 -> 26:58.320] How do we go about launching this or announcing this
[26:58.320 -> 27:00.500] or doing it like whatever it might be.
[27:00.500 -> 27:02.360] There's always, there's so much planning that goes involved.
[27:02.360 -> 27:04.800] But also at the same time, there's the total opposite
[27:04.800 -> 27:06.440] where you just get thrown stuff
[27:06.440 -> 27:07.540] all the time.
[27:07.540 -> 27:08.540] And you just have to be on your,
[27:08.540 -> 27:09.700] you have to be quick on your feet, you know?
[27:09.700 -> 27:13.520] Like, and you're sort of left to like,
[27:13.520 -> 27:16.100] if your equipment doesn't keep up with you as well.
[27:16.100 -> 27:16.940] Cause I've had that as well.
[27:16.940 -> 27:20.320] Like, the cameras are, yeah, well not, not like terrible,
[27:20.320 -> 27:22.300] but like cameras overheating and stuff.
[27:22.300 -> 27:24.140] And you're like, you're like, you're about to.
[27:24.140 -> 27:25.660] That even happens sometimes when we're filming here. Dude, it sucks, right? Because like, you're like, in the moment, you're like, you're about to- That even happens sometimes when we're filming here.
[27:25.660 -> 27:26.960] Dude, it sucks, right?
[27:26.960 -> 27:30.380] Because like, you're given such short windows in F1.
[27:30.380 -> 27:32.920] Like you're given such limited time to do,
[27:32.920 -> 27:34.900] so like not limited time with the drivers per se,
[27:34.900 -> 27:38.000] but like more so limited time to get this activation
[27:38.000 -> 27:40.400] or whatever, this piece of thing done.
[27:40.400 -> 27:43.360] And so sometimes I've been in situations where like,
[27:43.360 -> 27:45.480] you know, I'm just about to film something
[27:45.480 -> 27:48.040] and they've got to run or catch a flight or something.
[27:48.040 -> 27:49.640] And it's like, right, this isn't working.
[27:49.640 -> 27:50.480] What do we do?
[27:50.480 -> 27:51.880] And so I'm waiting, I'm leaving the camera off,
[27:51.880 -> 27:54.040] just hoping like, okay, okay, you ready?
[27:54.040 -> 27:55.200] Okay, cool, just let me check something.
[27:55.200 -> 27:57.200] I'm waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting.
[27:57.200 -> 27:58.800] Okay, all right, cool, all right, switch on.
[27:58.800 -> 28:00.040] Oh, it works, okay, right.
[28:00.040 -> 28:02.080] So my head, I'm like screaming, the light bulb's going off,
[28:02.080 -> 28:03.520] but it's nothing, you got to keep straight face.
[28:03.520 -> 28:04.560] It's all professional.
[28:04.560 -> 28:05.180] We had that with VB and Joe, our interface blew up. Oh yeah, we like screaming, the light bulb's going off. But it's nothing, you gotta keep straight face. It's all professional. Yeah.
[28:05.180 -> 28:07.600] We had that with VB and Joe, our interface blew up.
[28:07.600 -> 28:08.440] Oh yeah.
[28:08.440 -> 28:09.960] We get there, the interface, this is a new one.
[28:09.960 -> 28:11.800] We just had to get that yesterday for this.
[28:11.800 -> 28:12.720] This is brand new for you.
[28:12.720 -> 28:14.200] You're the first guest to be using this box.
[28:14.200 -> 28:15.040] The whole thing blew up.
[28:15.040 -> 28:15.960] That sucks though.
[28:15.960 -> 28:18.080] Plugged it in, fireworks, and I smelled it.
[28:18.080 -> 28:19.160] It was completely burnt.
[28:19.160 -> 28:20.000] Yeah, it's fucked.
[28:20.000 -> 28:21.680] Luckily we had a Zoom recorder with us.
[28:21.680 -> 28:25.000] Bro, imagine if you guys went all that way and like...
[28:25.000 -> 28:29.600] To be fair, we genuinely would have used the camera audio.
[28:29.600 -> 28:30.440] I think we would have used the camera.
[28:30.440 -> 28:32.120] No, it's true, it's true.
[28:32.120 -> 28:32.960] But like...
[28:32.960 -> 28:34.080] I would have cried myself to sleep.
[28:34.080 -> 28:36.720] This guy is so defeated, honestly.
[28:36.720 -> 28:37.680] And to make it even worse,
[28:37.680 -> 28:39.600] he gets pulled over by the police on the way home.
[28:39.600 -> 28:40.640] No, really?
[28:40.640 -> 28:41.480] Yeah.
[28:41.480 -> 28:43.080] What for?
[28:43.080 -> 28:44.560] Driving at the speed limit, obviously.
[28:44.560 -> 28:46.000] Ah, one of those, yeah.
[28:46.000 -> 28:48.000] Yeah, they just wanted to say hello, maybe listen to a podcast.
[28:48.000 -> 28:50.000] Tell them to drive faster.
[28:50.000 -> 28:52.000] Can we have 90 quid?
[28:52.000 -> 28:54.000] Stay awake, have a good call.
[29:02.000 -> 29:04.000] I wanted to ask you,
[29:04.000 -> 29:07.800] what's your relationship like with the actual drivers themselves?
[29:07.800 -> 29:11.600] Because when we were in Zambor, you introduced us to Valtteri, which is cool.
[29:11.600 -> 29:13.800] But like, how closely do you work with them?
[29:13.800 -> 29:14.800] Oh, really close.
[29:14.800 -> 29:18.120] Because social media is like everything, right?
[29:18.120 -> 29:22.360] At the moment, it's anyways, not just for F1, for the drivers themselves.
[29:22.360 -> 29:25.480] So, you know, they're always keen
[29:25.480 -> 29:28.560] to listen into conversations or be part of conversations
[29:28.560 -> 29:29.960] when it comes to content.
[29:31.160 -> 29:32.540] You know, so at the end of the day,
[29:32.540 -> 29:34.880] there'll be like, who's getting them assets?
[29:34.880 -> 29:36.560] Like, how do we get them photos from the day
[29:36.560 -> 29:38.280] and stuff like that.
[29:38.280 -> 29:40.120] So usually it's just, you know, we just message them
[29:40.120 -> 29:43.200] like just directly just to figure out,
[29:43.200 -> 29:46.280] okay, here's a bunch of the best assets from today,
[29:46.280 -> 29:47.440] or here's some video content,
[29:47.440 -> 29:48.780] or here's something that we've posted
[29:48.780 -> 29:51.040] that you might be interested in sharing.
[29:52.440 -> 29:54.600] So it is, I mean, you spend so much time with them.
[29:54.600 -> 29:55.960] It's like every race, you know?
[29:55.960 -> 29:58.840] So, and then, you know, I've done like,
[30:00.560 -> 30:02.260] the Montreal trip was insane
[30:02.260 -> 30:05.440] because I don't know how I managed to get on this trip,
[30:05.440 -> 30:10.440] but we got a helicopter and it was like this car park
[30:10.680 -> 30:13.980] in the middle of nowhere, like the America side.
[30:15.100 -> 30:16.740] No, sorry, the Montreal side.
[30:16.740 -> 30:20.720] And it's a random car park of this dealership
[30:20.720 -> 30:22.280] and this helicopter's in the car park.
[30:22.280 -> 30:23.680] I'm like, this is weird, man.
[30:23.680 -> 30:27.400] So me, Valtteri, Tiffany, there's a few of us actually,
[30:27.400 -> 30:30.080] we went for like a day out with one of the partners,
[30:30.080 -> 30:31.920] and the video's posted on the Alpha channel,
[30:31.920 -> 30:32.960] so you can probably watch it.
[30:32.960 -> 30:37.960] But jump in this helicopter, fly over to the US side,
[30:39.720 -> 30:42.720] and then do this activation at this like farm,
[30:42.720 -> 30:45.720] it's like this whiskey farm. It's wicked.
[30:45.720 -> 30:46.560] It's unbelievable.
[30:46.560 -> 30:50.320] But the point I'm trying to make is that you spend time
[30:50.320 -> 30:51.960] doing all these fun things with these guys
[30:51.960 -> 30:54.640] and like, it's fun for them as much as it is for us.
[30:54.640 -> 30:56.480] So you end up building these like,
[30:56.480 -> 30:58.980] these relationships with them and just like, yeah,
[30:58.980 -> 31:01.520] obviously all professional and you know, to the point,
[31:01.520 -> 31:04.000] no messing about and I wouldn't probably have
[31:04.000 -> 31:05.720] the same conversation we have.
[31:05.720 -> 31:06.540] But.
[31:06.540 -> 31:09.440] Do you go out for dinner and have drinks and stuff or?
[31:09.440 -> 31:12.020] I've done like drinks with a few drivers,
[31:12.020 -> 31:14.860] not all of them that I've worked with, I mean.
[31:15.900 -> 31:18.040] But yeah, like you see them after,
[31:18.040 -> 31:21.260] cause like most, not most, yeah, I think most,
[31:21.260 -> 31:23.760] most events, most Sundays after the race,
[31:23.760 -> 31:25.440] they're all out at a club.
[31:25.440 -> 31:28.000] You'll see F1 drivers, F2 drivers, F3 drivers.
[31:28.000 -> 31:28.840] They're all there.
[31:28.840 -> 31:29.660] We know.
[31:29.660 -> 31:30.500] You know, exactly.
[31:30.500 -> 31:31.340] You know.
[31:31.340 -> 31:32.480] It's brilliant.
[31:32.480 -> 31:36.280] And it's like, they're all there having an insane time
[31:36.280 -> 31:39.300] and it's sort of like more of a bonding thing,
[31:39.300 -> 31:42.840] have fun, release, no phones, that sort of thing.
[31:42.840 -> 31:45.480] It's not a rule, but it's kind of like a respect thing, you know?
[31:45.480 -> 31:47.900] Just like have fun and just keep everything
[31:47.900 -> 31:49.140] off socials that night.
[31:49.140 -> 31:50.700] Just enjoy it, you know?
[31:50.700 -> 31:51.540] So-
[31:51.540 -> 31:53.380] You don't want to be that guy who like leaks the photo.
[31:53.380 -> 31:54.960] Dude, I've seen it happen before, man.
[31:54.960 -> 31:55.800] I've seen it happen before.
[31:55.800 -> 31:56.620] Really?
[31:56.620 -> 31:57.860] Yeah, cause like you, you could probably search it now,
[31:57.860 -> 32:01.840] like Toto Wolf drunk or Max Verstappen drunk.
[32:01.840 -> 32:02.920] And as soon as you see,
[32:02.920 -> 32:04.840] there's so many people like phone cameras
[32:04.840 -> 32:06.400] and they're just like ruining it.
[32:06.400 -> 32:09.720] Cause that's the time to like be part of the team.
[32:09.720 -> 32:10.860] And it's a personal time.
[32:10.860 -> 32:11.700] Yeah. That's it.
[32:11.700 -> 32:12.880] It's the time when you're away from the cameras.
[32:12.880 -> 32:13.880] Like don't fucking film.
[32:13.880 -> 32:14.840] Exactly. Don't do it.
[32:14.840 -> 32:15.720] Just put your phone down.
[32:15.720 -> 32:16.680] Just enjoy the moment.
[32:16.680 -> 32:19.800] It doesn't, not everything needs to be caught on camera.
[32:19.800 -> 32:20.920] You know? True.
[32:20.920 -> 32:22.840] I can imagine Joe absolutely loves your photos
[32:22.840 -> 32:24.440] cause he's into his fashion at the moment, isn't he?
[32:24.440 -> 32:25.320] So he wants to show off all his looks. Yeah, he's into his fashion at the moment isn't he?
[32:25.320 -> 32:26.320] So he wants to show off all his looks.
[32:26.320 -> 32:27.320] Yeah, he's brilliant.
[32:27.320 -> 32:28.320] Do you take most of the photos he posts?
[32:28.320 -> 32:32.120] Because I saw you also put Valtteri Post in one of them on a bike.
[32:32.120 -> 32:33.120] Yeah, yeah.
[32:33.120 -> 32:34.120] And you took that.
[32:34.120 -> 32:35.480] So did you have to go somewhere to take that?
[32:35.480 -> 32:37.000] It wasn't far, that was on the track.
[32:37.000 -> 32:40.800] It's like the old part of Monza.
[32:40.800 -> 32:44.120] It's like this insane vertical banking on the track.
[32:44.120 -> 32:45.480] So we just, we walked there.
[32:45.480 -> 32:47.440] Oh, well, he cycled there.
[32:47.440 -> 32:48.360] Actually, that was annoying
[32:48.360 -> 32:49.880] because we ended up trying to get there,
[32:49.880 -> 32:50.720] but they fenced it all off.
[32:50.720 -> 32:52.240] You just ran behind him on the bike.
[32:52.240 -> 32:53.600] Man, no, I wasn't.
[32:53.600 -> 32:56.120] I had to like, it was such a weird journey
[32:56.120 -> 32:56.960] to try and get there.
[32:56.960 -> 32:58.040] All these tracks are like,
[32:58.040 -> 32:59.360] some of them are really unique
[32:59.360 -> 33:00.640] where they've got like unique aspects
[33:00.640 -> 33:01.940] and stuff you can get to.
[33:01.940 -> 33:04.280] This one was like, you have to like,
[33:04.280 -> 33:08.240] we went to that fence, which was like a 15 minute walk to get to this fence and there's like a fence. We
[33:08.240 -> 33:10.600] didn't know there was a fence, there was a fence. You can't get past it, you're like,
[33:10.600 -> 33:13.560] right, fuck, how do we get around? So then we'd go all the way back through the paddock
[33:13.560 -> 33:16.800] all the way around. It was like a half an hour, he was waiting there just like up and
[33:16.800 -> 33:17.800] down, up and down.
[33:17.800 -> 33:21.360] So is that like Valtteri saying, I'm going to go cycle the track and you're like, cool,
[33:21.360 -> 33:24.880] I'll come get some snaps or is it Valtteri saying, I want you to get some sick pics for
[33:24.880 -> 33:25.200] the ground? A bit of both, a bit of both. Like that time, he was just like, cool, I'll come get some snaps. Or is it Valtteri saying, I want you to get some sick pics for the ground?
[33:25.200 -> 33:26.600] A bit of both, a bit of both.
[33:26.600 -> 33:28.880] Like that time he was just like,
[33:28.880 -> 33:30.480] I'm going to this part of the track.
[33:30.480 -> 33:33.120] So it was like, cool, right, let's get some photos.
[33:33.120 -> 33:35.120] It's kind of like a joint thing.
[33:35.120 -> 33:37.800] Like I know I'm there to do a job.
[33:37.800 -> 33:39.320] So if the boys need anything,
[33:39.320 -> 33:41.960] I'm there on hand to film anything they might
[33:41.960 -> 33:43.680] or photograph anything they might need.
[33:43.680 -> 33:46.840] So do you directly post as well on their pages
[33:46.840 -> 33:47.680] or like do you just send them the photos?
[33:47.680 -> 33:50.640] No, no, no, just on the alpha channels.
[33:50.640 -> 33:51.480] Cool.
[33:51.480 -> 33:52.300] Yeah, yeah.
[33:52.300 -> 33:53.740] And just like Instagram, not Instagram,
[33:53.740 -> 33:56.040] like airdrop them or I message them photos and stuff.
[33:56.040 -> 33:56.880] You were airdropping us.
[33:56.880 -> 33:57.700] Kind of like what I was doing with you guys.
[33:57.700 -> 33:58.540] You were airdropping us pictures every day.
[33:58.540 -> 34:00.600] But it's exactly like that, exactly like that.
[34:00.600 -> 34:01.440] I love the way you took them
[34:01.440 -> 34:02.920] and then we just see you up in the corner
[34:02.920 -> 34:04.240] and then you're on your laptop or whatever,
[34:04.240 -> 34:05.960] you're just editing away and then he comes back out
[34:05.960 -> 34:06.960] with all these photos.
[34:06.960 -> 34:08.960] You were in this private room which we couldn't get into.
[34:08.960 -> 34:10.320] I didn't even know there was a room there!
[34:10.320 -> 34:13.600] Yeah, it was like frosted glass and all I could see was your silhouette, like, what
[34:13.600 -> 34:15.600] are you editing away like this?
[34:15.600 -> 34:18.800] Just the outline of me and my cap.
[34:18.800 -> 34:22.960] I know you said you wanted to work in motorsports when you left that job earlier on, but are
[34:22.960 -> 34:24.600] you actually a petrolhead?
[34:24.600 -> 34:25.240] Do you love the race?
[34:25.240 -> 34:27.240] 100%, 100%, 100%.
[34:27.240 -> 34:30.760] Yeah, I like, I have been watching Formula One
[34:30.760 -> 34:33.880] for a very long time, but I was always,
[34:33.880 -> 34:36.200] I was always into both two and four wheel motorsports.
[34:36.200 -> 34:40.200] So like, yeah, anything, anything with an engine,
[34:40.200 -> 34:41.360] I was just like hooked on.
[34:41.360 -> 34:43.840] Cause like, in fact, before I was working at,
[34:43.840 -> 34:50.080] before I went to uni, I was working at BMW as a mechanic just like a for like like it was a very
[34:50.760 -> 34:55.040] It was part of a course. So whilst I was doing my it was like alongside my GCSEs and
[34:56.920 -> 34:59.120] This is what our friend Jake Smith did at school
[34:59.120 -> 35:03.840] And you start on like a really low wage and then when you leave they offer you like another world
[35:03.840 -> 35:09.040] So kind of but like mine was purely just for this course. So it was like
[35:09.600 -> 35:11.840] it was like a mechanic course and then
[35:12.640 -> 35:16.960] Um, you had to do like a placement as part of it. So I still got paid
[35:17.600 -> 35:22.080] but um, yeah, I've ended up doing being a mechanic for like a couple of months and like
[35:22.880 -> 35:25.120] I don't know man. I was like anything to do with an engine,
[35:25.120 -> 35:27.000] I was like, I'm there for it.
[35:27.000 -> 35:28.600] Anything hands-on, I was like,
[35:28.600 -> 35:30.720] cause I was, if I wasn't doing the more creative,
[35:30.720 -> 35:33.000] like I guess it is kind of hands-on,
[35:33.000 -> 35:35.040] like instead of working on engines,
[35:35.040 -> 35:35.880] I'm just working with cameras
[35:35.880 -> 35:38.040] and different types of equipment, I guess.
[35:38.040 -> 35:39.920] But yeah, just a different aspect to it.
[35:39.920 -> 35:40.760] But I love it now,
[35:40.760 -> 35:42.240] because now I get to photograph the things
[35:42.240 -> 35:48.620] that I love seeing, all the cars and the people people and because like even even you guys walk through the the
[35:49.040 -> 35:50.880] Grid, right?
[35:50.880 -> 35:55.520] Like you went to a race where there wasn't even that many celebrities like imagine what Miami was like
[35:55.520 -> 35:59.880] I'm a bit of a row and like so are you snapping anyone that you can find?
[36:00.360 -> 36:03.360] Yeah for me not really for like, you know, yeah
[36:03.520 -> 36:05.760] Yeah, just for I was like, this is sick.
[36:05.760 -> 36:07.280] Obviously when, like Keanu Reeves was there,
[36:07.280 -> 36:09.080] I was like, oh, man, this is, this is Matrix.
[36:09.080 -> 36:10.920] I remember your text come through,
[36:10.920 -> 36:12.640] guys, I've got you grid tickets.
[36:12.640 -> 36:13.960] We were sat outside, we probably,
[36:13.960 -> 36:15.160] I don't even know if we told the story,
[36:15.160 -> 36:16.360] but we were sat in the Heineken bar,
[36:16.360 -> 36:17.420] weren't we, having a drink.
[36:17.420 -> 36:18.680] Well, we thought we could only get one.
[36:18.680 -> 36:19.520] Yeah.
[36:19.520 -> 36:21.280] So me and Jake did like a spinny thing on his phone
[36:21.280 -> 36:22.100] and he won it.
[36:22.100 -> 36:22.940] No way.
[36:22.940 -> 36:23.780] It was like a random world, whoever it landed on.
[36:23.780 -> 36:25.480] And I was like, I'm fine. I'm fine.
[36:25.480 -> 36:26.300] I don't need it.
[36:26.300 -> 36:27.140] It's good.
[36:27.140 -> 36:28.640] And then all of a sudden one of the girls
[36:28.640 -> 36:30.320] from Alfa Romeo walked out and just linked arms
[36:30.320 -> 36:31.960] with both of us and we're like, off we go.
[36:31.960 -> 36:32.800] Let's, oh man.
[36:32.800 -> 36:33.620] Fuck yeah.
[36:33.620 -> 36:34.460] I love that.
[36:34.460 -> 36:35.280] I was standing there and I was thinking,
[36:35.280 -> 36:36.240] is this too good to be true?
[36:36.240 -> 36:37.160] Something's going to go wrong.
[36:37.160 -> 36:39.000] Until I'm actually on that grid, I'm not going to believe it.
[36:39.000 -> 36:39.820] I didn't believe it.
[36:39.820 -> 36:40.660] I didn't believe it.
[36:40.660 -> 36:42.520] It came down to the wire though.
[36:42.520 -> 36:43.520] Like it really did.
[36:43.520 -> 36:44.360] Yeah.
[36:44.360 -> 36:45.720] I was so stoked it worked out.
[36:45.720 -> 36:46.560] Were you on the grid?
[36:46.560 -> 36:47.380] Yeah, you were on the grid with us.
[36:47.380 -> 36:48.220] Yeah.
[36:48.220 -> 36:49.060] That's mad, because you're like on the grid,
[36:49.060 -> 36:52.200] but then like, you're also in the mix in the garages.
[36:52.200 -> 36:53.320] The cars are coming in and out
[36:53.320 -> 36:54.160] and you're just darting around.
[36:54.160 -> 36:55.200] That's the hard part, I think,
[36:55.200 -> 36:57.040] of being a content creator in F1,
[36:57.040 -> 37:00.440] is always trying to find something new to shoot.
[37:00.440 -> 37:01.720] Because if you think about it,
[37:01.720 -> 37:02.640] every race you go to-
[37:02.640 -> 37:03.480] Here we are.
[37:03.480 -> 37:04.300] It's-
[37:04.300 -> 37:05.160] There we go. We come to you. Saving the career. I go to, here we are. It's, there we go.
[37:05.160 -> 37:06.000] We come to you.
[37:06.000 -> 37:08.700] I saw your banner photo on YouTube.
[37:08.700 -> 37:09.540] I saw it.
[37:09.540 -> 37:10.360] I saw it.
[37:10.360 -> 37:11.200] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[37:11.200 -> 37:12.840] Yeah, because that banner before was rubbish
[37:12.840 -> 37:14.320] and we thought we'd use it for a great snap.
[37:14.320 -> 37:15.160] Mate, I like it.
[37:15.160 -> 37:15.980] I really like it.
[37:15.980 -> 37:17.680] But it's like, it's stuff like this, right?
[37:17.680 -> 37:19.920] How do we mix it up every single race?
[37:19.920 -> 37:21.400] Because the garages are the same.
[37:21.400 -> 37:22.560] The drivers are the same.
[37:22.560 -> 37:23.800] The colors are the same.
[37:23.800 -> 37:25.160] The clothing's the same.
[37:25.160 -> 37:26.960] So unless you've got like a special helmet,
[37:26.960 -> 37:28.440] what's different, how do you tell the story?
[37:28.440 -> 37:30.640] So I think it's every team, every team will like,
[37:30.640 -> 37:33.840] not suffer with that, but like struggle with those,
[37:33.840 -> 37:35.560] those challenges of trying to tell different stories
[37:35.560 -> 37:37.160] every single week, week in, week out.
[37:37.160 -> 37:38.960] And it's 24 races next year.
[37:38.960 -> 37:41.800] So you've got more, more trying to figure out more ways
[37:41.800 -> 37:44.120] to promote and-
[37:44.120 -> 37:45.720] We'll try and make it a bit easier next year.
[37:45.720 -> 37:46.800] I don't know what we can do.
[37:46.800 -> 37:48.520] I mean, I just want to, just my opinion,
[37:48.520 -> 37:50.760] like all you need is two amazing hosts in the paddock,
[37:50.760 -> 37:51.840] like to create content.
[37:51.840 -> 37:52.680] I'm just saying.
[37:52.680 -> 37:53.520] I was going to ask, like,
[37:53.520 -> 37:55.720] do you ever go in like the fan zone and connect anything?
[37:55.720 -> 37:56.560] But I guess for-
[37:56.560 -> 37:57.400] Sometimes.
[37:57.400 -> 37:58.220] Do you really?
[37:58.220 -> 37:59.160] Yeah, yeah, so it depends on what track,
[37:59.160 -> 38:01.480] because some of them have been like insane,
[38:01.480 -> 38:02.640] like the fans are nuts.
[38:02.640 -> 38:05.120] Like this is another problem too.
[38:05.120 -> 38:06.720] Like all the races just blurred into one.
[38:06.720 -> 38:08.480] So it's really hard for me to remember which one,
[38:08.480 -> 38:09.320] but like-
[38:09.320 -> 38:10.140] Zandvoort must've been nuts.
[38:10.140 -> 38:11.060] Zandvoort was nuts,
[38:11.060 -> 38:15.080] but I don't know if that was the most crazy I've seen.
[38:15.080 -> 38:16.560] Cause Monza was insane.
[38:16.560 -> 38:17.440] Of course, yeah.
[38:17.440 -> 38:18.700] Monza was mad.
[38:20.160 -> 38:21.000] I'm just trying to think.
[38:21.000 -> 38:22.140] Cause there's been like certain ones
[38:22.140 -> 38:24.160] where like the fans are right next to the paddock.
[38:24.160 -> 38:32.600] So you'd be able to like squeeze out, go in, see if there's anybody wearing an Alfa Romeo, anything, snap it, you know, just try and show that fan love.
[38:32.600 -> 38:35.160] Because we I mean, we did that at McLaren as well.
[38:35.160 -> 38:36.840] What like you just know the colours now.
[38:36.840 -> 38:37.760] So you just spot that, right?
[38:37.760 -> 38:38.400] Okay, right.
[38:38.800 -> 38:40.120] That's that's the cap to look out for.
[38:40.120 -> 38:40.640] That's the teaser.
[38:40.640 -> 38:41.800] We should have worn our hats to be honest.
[38:41.800 -> 38:42.960] They're on the wall.
[38:42.960 -> 38:43.480] Yeah.
[38:44.200 -> 38:45.840] Between the different F1 teams,
[38:45.840 -> 38:48.800] do you notice that they all work very differently?
[38:48.800 -> 38:49.640] Like-
[38:49.640 -> 38:50.460] It's a really good question.
[38:50.460 -> 38:52.440] I, no, they don't.
[38:52.440 -> 38:55.940] It varies with like the size of the teams,
[38:55.940 -> 38:58.000] but in terms of like the way in which they work,
[38:58.000 -> 39:00.680] it's very, very, very similar.
[39:00.680 -> 39:01.520] Very similar.
[39:01.520 -> 39:04.920] Because there's not too much to change.
[39:04.920 -> 39:05.000] Just the to change.
[39:06.440 -> 39:08.160] Just the styles change. So like, you might notice,
[39:08.160 -> 39:11.720] if you go onto McLaren's page after this
[39:11.720 -> 39:13.440] and you see their Instagram,
[39:13.440 -> 39:16.160] you'll see it's very, not colorful,
[39:16.160 -> 39:18.640] it's colored very orange.
[39:18.640 -> 39:20.560] And you'll see that theme throughout.
[39:20.560 -> 39:23.340] And so you might not be able to know
[39:23.340 -> 39:25.640] that there's like multiple photographers or videographers,
[39:25.640 -> 39:28.120] but there are, they're just using the same presets.
[39:28.120 -> 39:29.120] Presets and templates, yeah.
[39:29.120 -> 39:30.940] So that's what they do.
[39:30.940 -> 39:33.520] You'll see like some teams like Mercedes
[39:33.520 -> 39:34.880] will use like memes and stuff.
[39:34.880 -> 39:37.640] So in terms of those little tiny differences,
[39:37.640 -> 39:39.720] that's basically it, but aside that,
[39:39.720 -> 39:42.420] it's very, very, very similar, very similar.
[39:42.420 -> 39:43.760] So do you have to change your style
[39:43.760 -> 39:44.960] depending on what team you're with?
[39:44.960 -> 39:47.380] Because I know that you have like a preset that you go to
[39:47.380 -> 39:49.020] and then you might mix it up,
[39:49.020 -> 39:50.900] but all your photos, they do look the same,
[39:50.900 -> 39:52.980] but they're sick, like they all look amazing.
[39:52.980 -> 39:56.740] Well, so I haven't really changed too much.
[39:56.740 -> 40:00.420] I think with, I'm more experienced now
[40:00.420 -> 40:03.300] than I was when I was with Lewis, I think.
[40:03.300 -> 40:05.360] So like, you know, I,
[40:05.360 -> 40:10.360] there was the first time working with an individual who-
[40:10.480 -> 40:12.240] Lewis was your first art?
[40:12.240 -> 40:13.640] Yeah, well, so I think so.
[40:13.640 -> 40:14.720] So I obviously had,
[40:14.720 -> 40:16.440] I was playing around with presets and stuff then,
[40:16.440 -> 40:19.780] but like he, I think you'll find that different drivers
[40:19.780 -> 40:21.200] have different styles
[40:21.200 -> 40:22.840] and you might not see it right off the bat,
[40:22.840 -> 40:25.240] but they have particular styles that they like.
[40:25.240 -> 40:27.320] Like some drivers will like their photos
[40:27.320 -> 40:30.820] looking very grainy and dark, like Lewis.
[40:30.820 -> 40:34.360] If you look back through like 13th Witness
[40:34.360 -> 40:36.040] who shoots most of his stuff now,
[40:37.200 -> 40:38.600] you'll see like it's very grainy
[40:38.600 -> 40:40.340] and it's all added on presets and stuff.
[40:40.340 -> 40:41.640] You'll see other drivers are like
[40:41.640 -> 40:44.080] a little bit more clean cut, no edits and stuff.
[40:44.080 -> 40:47.800] Then you'll see some which are like totally over the top, like contrasty,
[40:47.800 -> 40:53.000] like just giving random examples, but they all have different ways of working.
[40:53.000 -> 40:57.800] So I feel like now I've got my presets and my style,
[40:57.800 -> 41:00.800] and depending on the client, depending on who it is,
[41:00.800 -> 41:04.200] I'll either tone it down or increase it.
[41:04.200 -> 41:06.760] So say for instance, recently I did a shoot
[41:06.760 -> 41:09.600] with Royal Enfield, the motorbike company.
[41:09.600 -> 41:12.360] And I kept that all in my style because I was like,
[41:12.360 -> 41:14.960] they've hired me to do this project.
[41:14.960 -> 41:15.800] Was that recent, recent?
[41:15.800 -> 41:17.280] I think I saw you posted it.
[41:17.280 -> 41:18.240] Just on the weekend.
[41:18.240 -> 41:19.200] Yeah, yeah, sorry.
[41:19.200 -> 41:23.120] So yeah, I'll go shoot everything that they need,
[41:23.120 -> 41:27.700] but I'll keep it all in my style, because it's, unless they specify
[41:27.700 -> 41:29.380] that they want something different.
[41:29.380 -> 41:31.340] And with the, I think even now,
[41:31.340 -> 41:32.920] if I were to go from, you know,
[41:32.920 -> 41:35.220] shooting for this team to a different team,
[41:35.220 -> 41:37.140] I don't know, I'd probably keep the same presets
[41:37.140 -> 41:40.080] and then mix it up if that was of request.
[41:40.080 -> 41:44.020] The idea is that it's not just the teams
[41:44.020 -> 41:48.720] that are like the brand that you are sort of molding and shaping and trying to keep this whole image.
[41:48.720 -> 41:53.520] It's the drivers as well. The drivers have their own brand. They're marketed in the exact same way.
[41:53.520 -> 42:03.520] Such an important job bro, because like with social media being so big as it is now, what people are seeing online is how you've edited it.
[42:03.520 -> 42:06.340] So they get an interpretation of that person,
[42:06.340 -> 42:07.860] but it's also you as well.
[42:07.860 -> 42:09.860] It's all part of the story, right?
[42:09.860 -> 42:12.420] So same thing, exactly that.
[42:12.420 -> 42:15.780] Like what's the brand and how are you promoting it?
[42:15.780 -> 42:18.100] And sometimes it can be a person.
[42:18.100 -> 42:19.460] This is the thing I've done throughout now.
[42:19.460 -> 42:20.420] So like even at Atlantic,
[42:20.420 -> 42:22.660] when I was working with specific artists,
[42:22.660 -> 42:24.700] they have a brand, they are a brand.
[42:24.700 -> 42:28.160] Like Anne Marie or whatever the name is,
[42:28.160 -> 42:30.960] like they're a brand and you're just promoting them
[42:30.960 -> 42:33.080] in a different way or a different light
[42:33.080 -> 42:36.680] to this brand which is Alfa Romeo or Red Bull
[42:36.680 -> 42:37.880] or whatever it might be.
[42:38.840 -> 42:39.960] That's literally what it comes down to.
[42:39.960 -> 42:43.240] It's just different ways of different brand identities.
[42:43.240 -> 42:46.180] Per whether it's a person or a brand.
[42:46.180 -> 42:47.280] It's yeah.
[42:47.280 -> 42:49.060] When did you first pick up a camera?
[42:49.060 -> 42:50.960] Because I don't know why, but my opinion,
[42:50.960 -> 42:53.240] if someone like you walked in with a camera,
[42:53.240 -> 42:54.840] you feel like you must love your camera.
[42:54.840 -> 42:56.920] Like I love filming stuff, I love taking photos,
[42:56.920 -> 42:59.160] but I don't love taking photos that much.
[42:59.160 -> 43:00.560] I'd rather people took them of me.
[43:00.560 -> 43:02.560] But like, when did you pick up a camera?
[43:02.560 -> 43:07.560] I got given my first film camera when I was 16.
[43:08.000 -> 43:10.860] I think it was like my dad's camera when he was at uni.
[43:10.860 -> 43:12.580] So I got handed that.
[43:12.580 -> 43:15.760] And I think since then, I like absolutely just,
[43:15.760 -> 43:18.340] I loved it for the memory aspect.
[43:18.340 -> 43:19.640] So, and I still do.
[43:19.640 -> 43:21.100] That part hasn't changed.
[43:21.100 -> 43:25.640] I'll like shoot for the sake of looking back on this one day
[43:25.640 -> 43:27.600] you know, less so for like, oh, this is cool.
[43:27.600 -> 43:29.520] Like, cause I also like living in the moment.
[43:29.520 -> 43:31.800] So there are times I just won't have, you know
[43:31.800 -> 43:32.720] a camera at all.
[43:32.720 -> 43:35.280] I'll just take my phone or whatever.
[43:35.280 -> 43:37.920] But I love it for the memory aspect.
[43:37.920 -> 43:40.040] So that entire time I've just like sort of learned
[43:40.040 -> 43:42.080] and developed and picked up like
[43:42.080 -> 43:44.040] I had a really shitty first camera.
[43:44.040 -> 43:45.400] Cause you go for the cheap shit first. You can't afford anything more. And then you just sort of build and build and build. There, I had a really shitty first camera because you go for the cheap shit first,
[43:45.400 -> 43:46.320] you can't afford anything more.
[43:46.320 -> 43:47.760] And then you just sort of build and build and build.
[43:47.760 -> 43:49.080] There's always the next step up.
[43:49.080 -> 43:52.200] And now it's so expensive, like stupidly expensive.
[43:52.200 -> 43:54.720] Like most of the photographers that you'll see in the paddock
[43:54.720 -> 43:56.840] I think at a minimum they would have spent,
[43:56.840 -> 43:58.640] the kit that they would be carrying
[43:58.640 -> 44:00.160] is probably about 10 grand.
[44:00.160 -> 44:01.000] Wow.
[44:01.000 -> 44:01.820] Which is insane.
[44:01.820 -> 44:02.660] Yeah, I know.
[44:02.660 -> 44:04.800] Lenses, memory cards, hard drives, SSD,
[44:04.800 -> 44:05.200] like, you know,
[44:05.200 -> 44:09.200] and you think about the amount of races we have and all the content we film and shoot all saved.
[44:09.200 -> 44:10.200] And how do we save all this stuff?
[44:10.200 -> 44:11.400] So it's all done on SSDs.
[44:11.400 -> 44:13.100] Are you happy to share what you use?
[44:13.100 -> 44:15.700] Because there's probably a few photographers and people out there who listen to this.
[44:15.700 -> 44:16.300] 100%.
[44:16.300 -> 44:19.800] So I'm probably the worst person to ask this because I keep chopping and changing.
[44:19.800 -> 44:20.300] Right.
[44:20.300 -> 44:23.300] But the kit I have now is a Canon.
[44:23.300 -> 44:24.200] I should have brought it with me, actually.
[44:24.200 -> 44:25.120] That would have been better. But I've got a Canon R5 Canon, I should have brought it with me actually, that would have been better,
[44:25.120 -> 44:29.400] but I've got a Canon R5 and then I've got three lenses.
[44:29.400 -> 44:31.600] So I've got the 15 to 35,
[44:31.600 -> 44:33.200] which is like the really wide angle.
[44:33.200 -> 44:34.320] Yep, for bird watching.
[44:34.320 -> 44:35.400] You film basically,
[44:35.400 -> 44:37.240] if I was to do an interview with you guys now,
[44:37.240 -> 44:38.760] I'd use that wide one.
[44:38.760 -> 44:39.840] Then I've got the 24 to 70,
[44:39.840 -> 44:41.720] which is pretty much what I use everything else for.
[44:41.720 -> 44:44.040] So like the photography and everything in the garage
[44:44.040 -> 44:47.020] and out and about the outside of the garage too.
[44:47.020 -> 44:48.100] And then the 70 to 200,
[44:48.100 -> 44:50.080] which is purely for shooting track stuff.
[44:50.080 -> 44:51.120] What brand are they, the lenses?
[44:51.120 -> 44:51.960] All Canon.
[44:51.960 -> 44:52.860] All Canon. All Canon currently.
[44:52.860 -> 44:55.120] So like, yeah, this is why I'm the worst person to ask
[44:55.120 -> 44:57.620] because I've shot last year, I was all Sony
[44:57.620 -> 45:00.120] and I was on different body Sony before that.
[45:00.120 -> 45:01.600] So I've switched all the time.
[45:01.600 -> 45:03.120] I switch, I wouldn't be surprised.
[45:03.120 -> 45:04.760] I'm tempted to switch back as well, so.
[45:04.760 -> 45:06.920] Do you have to buy your own camera gear? So I have, all the time. I switch, I wouldn't be surprised. I'm tempted to switch back as well. Do you have to buy your own camera gear?
[45:06.920 -> 45:11.920] So I have, I have personally, it's a lot, but I have.
[45:12.120 -> 45:14.920] So like, would the team like give you budget for camera gear
[45:14.920 -> 45:18.160] or does your job like mean you'd have to go into a row
[45:18.160 -> 45:19.000] and be like, this is what I'm-
[45:19.000 -> 45:20.000] I imagine them like having like,
[45:20.000 -> 45:21.600] oh, we've got a few cameras you could use,
[45:21.600 -> 45:24.760] you go in there and it's like a fucking disposable.
[45:24.760 -> 45:25.020] That's a fucking, one of those like disposable.
[45:25.020 -> 45:27.360] That's a fucking totem pole.
[45:27.360 -> 45:28.360] Nah, do you know what?
[45:28.360 -> 45:30.000] I've never really, I just,
[45:30.000 -> 45:32.160] I prefer using my own equipment, you know?
[45:32.160 -> 45:33.440] I know how it works.
[45:33.440 -> 45:34.280] I can keep it.
[45:34.280 -> 45:36.400] If I drop it, I won't feel as bad.
[45:37.480 -> 45:39.960] Just felt pretty bad about that one.
[45:39.960 -> 45:42.320] More so because I left glass all over your floor.
[45:42.320 -> 45:43.280] And it really sucks.
[45:43.280 -> 45:44.120] As long as the camera's on.
[45:44.120 -> 45:46.160] We'll put a shout out to Canon or Sony
[45:46.160 -> 45:47.880] if anyone's listening and you wanna
[45:47.880 -> 45:49.240] give a load of equipment to-
[45:49.240 -> 45:50.400] Yeah, do it please.
[45:50.400 -> 45:53.280] I will be much appreciated.
[45:53.280 -> 45:54.120] Yeah, don't be the first to do it.
[45:54.120 -> 45:54.940] And us too.
[45:54.940 -> 45:55.780] And us too.
[45:55.780 -> 45:56.620] And us too.
[45:56.620 -> 45:57.440] And us too.
[45:57.440 -> 45:58.280] You got a chance here guys, send some stuff.
[45:58.280 -> 45:59.120] That's it.
[45:59.120 -> 45:59.960] Honestly, ever since we've been doing this,
[45:59.960 -> 46:01.960] I've been reaching out to every single brand.
[46:01.960 -> 46:02.800] Like we need this, we need that.
[46:02.800 -> 46:03.620] Do you know what, it's worth it.
[46:03.620 -> 46:04.460] It's so worth it.
[46:04.460 -> 46:05.600] I feel like you boys could definitely get,
[46:05.600 -> 46:07.920] like, I mean, you should definitely have Heineken here.
[46:07.920 -> 46:08.760] I know.
[46:08.760 -> 46:11.440] You just need more brand partners on this thing.
[46:11.440 -> 46:12.280] I actually got a meeting with Heineken.
[46:12.280 -> 46:14.080] You've got loads of wall space, just fill them up.
[46:14.080 -> 46:15.880] I did a meeting with Heineken the other day,
[46:15.880 -> 46:17.280] not long ago, I went into the offices
[46:17.280 -> 46:18.760] and did a talk in front of them.
[46:18.760 -> 46:21.920] So, you know, I'm trying to get Heineken inside.
[46:21.920 -> 46:23.040] Get it, get it.
[46:23.040 -> 46:24.640] There's a load of people we're trying to get inside.
[46:24.640 -> 46:25.480] Do you know what?
[46:25.480 -> 46:26.640] There is room for stuff in the background,
[46:26.640 -> 46:30.200] but we want people like you bringing these amazing gifts.
[46:30.200 -> 46:31.080] No, I'm stoked, man.
[46:31.080 -> 46:31.920] I'm stoked.
[46:31.920 -> 46:33.520] I was so worried this wouldn't come in time,
[46:33.520 -> 46:34.960] because I was like, if it wasn't going to come this week,
[46:34.960 -> 46:36.480] I'm away now for the next two weeks.
[46:36.480 -> 46:37.320] Yeah.
[46:37.320 -> 46:38.580] When do you head off?
[46:38.580 -> 46:39.680] Monday.
[46:39.680 -> 46:43.840] So for the flyaways, you tend to go much earlier
[46:43.840 -> 46:44.680] in the week.
[46:44.680 -> 46:47.060] So Monday, get there on Tuesday afternoon,
[46:47.060 -> 46:48.680] and sort of hit the ground running Wednesday.
[46:48.680 -> 46:50.480] Because you're kind of there on time now.
[46:50.480 -> 46:53.360] So how do you, because what I tend to do,
[46:53.360 -> 46:54.440] when I went to like Montreal,
[46:54.440 -> 46:56.080] I'll go about the town and showcase the town.
[46:56.080 -> 46:56.920] Like, where are we?
[46:56.920 -> 46:57.880] Like Montreal.
[46:57.880 -> 46:58.720] It's all content, right?
[46:58.720 -> 46:59.540] Yeah, man.
[46:59.540 -> 47:00.380] Everything's content.
[47:00.380 -> 47:03.780] And fans love being closer to this sport, you know?
[47:03.780 -> 47:06.200] So like, whether it's a podcast they can find,
[47:06.200 -> 47:07.620] whether it's like content,
[47:07.620 -> 47:11.140] anything that they can use to get closer to the sport,
[47:12.120 -> 47:13.860] they will eat it up.
[47:13.860 -> 47:15.120] They will absolutely eat it up.
[47:15.120 -> 47:16.540] This is why Netflix has done so well.
[47:16.540 -> 47:17.380] I know, man.
[47:17.380 -> 47:19.280] You must have seen the change of Netflix
[47:19.280 -> 47:20.360] because you were in the sport.
[47:20.360 -> 47:21.200] Totally.
[47:21.200 -> 47:23.080] And like those guys,
[47:23.080 -> 47:25.980] they chop and change their storylines all the time.
[47:25.980 -> 47:26.820] It's insane.
[47:26.820 -> 47:27.660] Cause there's so much that's happened this year.
[47:27.660 -> 47:28.980] Well, bro, when we first watched it,
[47:28.980 -> 47:30.480] we didn't know anything about Formula One,
[47:30.480 -> 47:31.980] but we started watching season one again.
[47:31.980 -> 47:32.820] Yeah.
[47:32.820 -> 47:34.300] And you can see, you can see how there's like,
[47:34.300 -> 47:35.820] there's a scene where there's Christian Horner.
[47:35.820 -> 47:36.660] Yeah.
[47:36.660 -> 47:37.480] Forget the guy's name now.
[47:37.480 -> 47:38.820] He used to run Renault.
[47:39.820 -> 47:42.020] Oh yeah. I know you're talking about Adam Seagal.
[47:42.020 -> 47:42.860] Adam Seagal.
[47:42.860 -> 47:46.440] And they're creating, they're creating this storyline between them.
[47:46.440 -> 47:47.960] And really they're just stood there,
[47:47.960 -> 47:50.000] but they put like tense music over it.
[47:50.000 -> 47:51.360] And it's like, oh.
[47:51.360 -> 47:53.360] They're just dramatizing it, right?
[47:53.360 -> 47:56.680] But the effect of that is that there's this whole range
[47:56.680 -> 47:59.320] of new fans that have come into this sport.
[47:59.320 -> 48:02.400] And yet they're eating up like you wouldn't imagine.
[48:02.400 -> 48:04.840] So like, you're not wearing any like your merch,
[48:04.840 -> 48:06.880] but like if you were to do a merch range,
[48:06.880 -> 48:09.340] they would take it, they would eat it up.
[48:12.760 -> 48:15.800] Fucking works going on next door, bro.
[48:15.800 -> 48:17.200] They've literally just knocked down the car park.
[48:17.200 -> 48:18.640] Sorry man, I just had to shut the door.
[48:18.640 -> 48:20.480] Wakes me up every morning.
[48:20.480 -> 48:22.520] Eight o'clock on the dot, you just hear.
[48:22.520 -> 48:24.400] Brrrr, brrrr.
[48:24.400 -> 48:49.440] You are in that area though. I actually sleep through it. You sleep through it? I do go through it. But I sleep with my window wide open. Really? 8 o'clock on the dot you just hear... Drrrr like, do you know what I mean? This guy. This guy. Also
[48:49.440 -> 48:52.520] I can't eat food with a plastic knife and fork. Like I need to have proper cutlery.
[48:52.520 -> 48:58.520] But you're far too bougie. You're far too bougie. Come on man. I just can't sleep sitting
[48:58.520 -> 49:01.960] up. I don't know what it is. Yeah, no I feel you. I have to have like a load of wine or
[49:01.960 -> 49:05.640] beer or something. See what helps is the white noise. I find I sleep really well on planes
[49:05.640 -> 49:07.640] because of the white noise, the noise of the plane.
[49:07.640 -> 49:09.960] Yeah, I sleep with a fan on just to keep me going.
[49:09.960 -> 49:10.800] Yeah.
[49:10.800 -> 49:12.240] I do that too, every night without fail.
[49:12.240 -> 49:14.240] I can be freezing, it can be the dead of winter,
[49:14.240 -> 49:15.060] with a fan on.
[49:15.060 -> 49:16.960] We both got two like 60 quid fans in it,
[49:16.960 -> 49:18.520] a pucker as well.
[49:18.520 -> 49:20.200] Yeah, I love it.
[49:20.200 -> 49:21.600] I really wanted to ask you,
[49:21.600 -> 49:23.200] because we've had it in from other fans,
[49:23.200 -> 49:28.160] they've said like, what advice would you give to random people that want to work in motorsport?
[49:28.160 -> 49:31.440] Like I know there's so many roles and I know it's a generic question because there's for every single
[49:31.440 -> 49:35.600] role it's different, but like say for your job, like if someone was listening and like they think
[49:35.600 -> 49:41.440] oh I love taking photos or I love social media or what do you think would be like the best way in
[49:41.440 -> 49:46.320] or the best way to do it? With my role specifically? Yeah, for any role, I guess.
[49:46.320 -> 49:48.600] I think, okay, for my role specifically,
[49:48.600 -> 49:53.120] I'd say pick up a camera and shoot lower division races.
[49:53.120 -> 49:56.020] And like, I mean, if you can shoot,
[49:56.020 -> 49:57.840] if you can get accredited, fantastic.
[49:57.840 -> 50:01.560] If you can't, shoot from the grandstands.
[50:01.560 -> 50:03.300] Cause like a lot of the content that I shoot
[50:03.300 -> 50:04.340] is from the grandstands.
[50:04.340 -> 50:06.500] All the track stuff I shoot is from the grandstands. Like, a lot of the content that I shoot is from the grandstands, all the track stuff I shoot is from the grandstands.
[50:06.500 -> 50:09.100] Because I don't have the same access
[50:09.100 -> 50:11.940] that the track photographers get.
[50:11.940 -> 50:13.740] So I'm just trying to find like new ways to do that.
[50:13.740 -> 50:16.300] But like, it doesn't have to be F1 either.
[50:16.300 -> 50:19.080] Like I was shooting Rallycross and,
[50:20.220 -> 50:21.260] fuck what else was there man?
[50:21.260 -> 50:23.180] All these drift events at like Silverstone
[50:23.180 -> 50:25.640] and going to like car meetups and stuff. Just anything I could shoot that was related to what else was there, man? All these drift events at like Silverstone and going to like car meetups and stuff.
[50:25.640 -> 50:27.480] Just anything I could shoot
[50:27.480 -> 50:30.880] that was related to what I'm doing, I would be there.
[50:30.880 -> 50:35.880] And then alongside that, try and focus on brand first.
[50:36.000 -> 50:40.120] So, just purely from a photography perspective,
[50:40.120 -> 50:45.000] if you can like pick up a really,
[50:45.480 -> 50:49.600] if you have a nice watch or you're going to a festival
[50:49.600 -> 50:52.180] and you see a brand like Heineken there
[50:52.180 -> 50:54.020] and they have a Heineken bar pop up,
[50:54.020 -> 50:55.360] shoot the entire bar,
[50:55.360 -> 50:57.240] shoot everything in a really stylistic way.
[50:57.240 -> 50:59.160] So you have, you've got a portfolio now
[50:59.160 -> 51:01.560] of things that you can then present to, not to Heineken,
[51:01.560 -> 51:03.600] but to other brands who are smaller,
[51:03.600 -> 51:05.560] who can be like, hey, this is my day, right?
[51:05.560 -> 51:07.800] Would you, here's something I can create for you guys.
[51:07.800 -> 51:09.080] Would you be up for it?
[51:09.080 -> 51:10.980] Because I ended up picking up festival shoots
[51:10.980 -> 51:13.600] for drink brands and stuff, like all for money,
[51:13.600 -> 51:16.200] but at the same time, it was all adding to my portfolio.
[51:16.200 -> 51:17.480] Brand, brand, brand, brand, brand.
[51:17.480 -> 51:18.460] Because that's where the money is.
[51:18.460 -> 51:20.640] And that's what gets you into these events.
[51:20.640 -> 51:22.120] That's definitely the right mindset.
[51:22.120 -> 51:23.680] And that's definitely how I think like the media
[51:23.680 -> 51:25.040] and social world works.
[51:25.040 -> 51:26.960] Cause everyone's still learning so quick.
[51:26.960 -> 51:28.680] So like doing that and going to a festival
[51:28.680 -> 51:30.320] and shooting everything or creating content
[51:30.320 -> 51:31.800] and then going, look what I've done.
[51:31.800 -> 51:33.480] I can do that for you next week.
[51:33.480 -> 51:35.680] It's probably more valuable than scouring indeed
[51:35.680 -> 51:37.200] and looking for a fucking job
[51:37.200 -> 51:38.920] and applying for thousands of people.
[51:38.920 -> 51:41.240] But they see people ask, like I get asked this all the time.
[51:41.240 -> 51:42.240] Should I go to uni for this?
[51:42.240 -> 51:43.240] I'm like, absolutely not.
[51:43.240 -> 51:44.080] Do not do it.
[51:44.080 -> 51:46.520] Cause hands-on experience is everything.
[51:46.520 -> 51:48.040] So I've seen people make full-on
[51:48.040 -> 51:50.480] Monster Energy commercials in their bedroom,
[51:50.480 -> 51:52.240] and they send us videos, and we're like,
[51:52.240 -> 51:53.320] shit, this is awesome.
[51:53.320 -> 51:54.160] It's insane.
[51:54.160 -> 51:54.980] Yeah, because they want a job.
[51:54.980 -> 51:56.800] That stuff's how you do it, in my opinion.
[51:56.800 -> 51:59.320] It's all you do, you know, and you show what you can do.
[51:59.320 -> 52:00.440] It's so much quicker than-
[52:00.440 -> 52:01.680] People have done it to us, bro.
[52:01.680 -> 52:04.360] I mean, we're in a position where we both work on this,
[52:04.360 -> 52:06.320] so at the moment, we don't really need any help
[52:06.320 -> 52:09.960] with it but we've had people like DM us like they've done photos of us or they've
[52:09.960 -> 52:13.400] edited videos of us together and stuff and like fair play to you guys if you
[52:13.400 -> 52:18.640] are listening thanks we don't need you at the moment hopefully we will need a
[52:18.640 -> 52:21.520] team but we're full-time in this fabs quit his job like we just spend all day
[52:21.520 -> 52:25.680] editing I love that but like people are churning out content though, it's sick.
[52:25.680 -> 52:26.520] We churn out serious content.
[52:26.520 -> 52:28.080] And the numbers are insane.
[52:28.080 -> 52:29.960] Yeah, it's three podcasts this week,
[52:29.960 -> 52:31.400] three YouTube vids.
[52:31.400 -> 52:32.880] Literally was like two weeks ago,
[52:32.880 -> 52:34.200] we're filming the pod and we were going,
[52:34.200 -> 52:36.560] guys, get us to like 5,000 YouTube subs.
[52:36.560 -> 52:38.080] And like now we're coming up to 30K.
[52:38.080 -> 52:40.880] So like that YouTube sub jump's been pretty crazy.
[52:40.880 -> 52:41.720] Man.
[52:41.720 -> 52:42.540] Thanks to you, my friend.
[52:42.540 -> 52:43.380] You guys are smashing it, man.
[52:43.380 -> 52:45.920] You guys are on it, I'm so stoked for you boys.
[52:45.920 -> 52:47.440] We're gonna buy you a fucking car, as well.
[52:47.440 -> 52:48.280] Honestly, bro.
[52:48.280 -> 52:49.100] We said this.
[52:49.100 -> 52:49.940] I'm not gonna say no to that.
[52:49.940 -> 52:51.600] We said, when we got money, we're gonna buy Shia.
[52:51.600 -> 52:52.920] This is like a Lamborghini.
[52:52.920 -> 52:54.840] Honestly, I'm so stoked that you guys
[52:54.840 -> 52:55.680] have done what you've done.
[52:55.680 -> 52:58.800] I think it's only gonna get bigger now, too.
[52:58.800 -> 53:00.880] Without a doubt, it's only gonna grow.
[53:00.880 -> 53:02.320] So just keep at it.
[53:02.320 -> 53:04.280] Like, you guys are genuinely smashing it.
[53:04.280 -> 53:06.140] We just take it sort of one step at a time, don't we?
[53:06.140 -> 53:09.560] I try not to get it in my head too much.
[53:09.560 -> 53:11.560] Like me and Jake, we said this on last night's pod,
[53:11.560 -> 53:13.960] we wanna do like an, we wanna interview each other
[53:13.960 -> 53:14.800] at the end of the year.
[53:14.800 -> 53:16.240] But like I was like, I couldn't do it now
[53:16.240 -> 53:18.400] because I'm still in the mix.
[53:18.400 -> 53:20.400] Like I need to wait for this year to be done
[53:20.400 -> 53:23.000] for me to then look back and be like, shit, we've done that.
[53:23.000 -> 53:24.720] But how is it for you boys when you rock up to,
[53:24.720 -> 53:26.480] cause like, remember when I met you at the gate and I handed you the passes and then when you're walking through, people are like, shit, we've done that. But how is it for you boys when you rock up to, cause I remember when I met you at the gate
[53:26.480 -> 53:27.520] and I handed you the passes
[53:27.520 -> 53:28.360] and then when you're walking through
[53:28.360 -> 53:29.880] people are like, oh, pit stop, pit stop.
[53:29.880 -> 53:31.080] Like, that's sick.
[53:31.080 -> 53:31.900] That's so cool.
[53:31.900 -> 53:33.080] That's kind of the first,
[53:33.080 -> 53:35.160] well, we had it at Silverstone a little bit.
[53:35.160 -> 53:36.000] Yeah.
[53:36.000 -> 53:37.000] But like Zandvoort was the first time
[53:37.000 -> 53:39.840] that we've actually noticed it, I guess.
[53:39.840 -> 53:41.920] Cause in Silverstone, we were just in the fan zone.
[53:41.920 -> 53:43.800] So there was, you know, kids coming up and-
[53:43.800 -> 53:44.640] Insane.
[53:44.640 -> 53:47.840] Saying hello and that, but it's, yeah's yeah it's weird man. I noticed over the
[53:47.840 -> 53:51.480] weekend how quickly content spreaded because obviously Friday, Saturday, Sunday
[53:51.480 -> 53:54.400] we started posting loads of stuff from there and everyone was then aware we're
[53:54.400 -> 53:58.260] there and like we were doing cool stuff posting photos like Brad was posting
[53:58.260 -> 54:01.120] pictures of us, Michael was posting pictures of us so that when we came out
[54:01.120 -> 54:05.360] on Sunday loads of people knew who we were. And it was really crazy.
[54:05.360 -> 54:08.000] And like, we even noticed loads of our numbers went up.
[54:08.000 -> 54:09.240] Everyone was really excited.
[54:09.240 -> 54:11.440] And it just shows everyone at that Formula One race,
[54:11.440 -> 54:12.600] other than watching the race,
[54:12.600 -> 54:13.920] all their eyes on social.
[54:13.920 -> 54:14.760] Yeah.
[54:14.760 -> 54:17.280] That's why it's so important.
[54:17.280 -> 54:18.120] So this is another thing.
[54:18.120 -> 54:20.280] You know how like teams are like always updating
[54:20.280 -> 54:23.240] their Twitters to like what's happening live on track.
[54:23.240 -> 54:24.080] They're always doing it.
[54:24.080 -> 54:24.900] No matter what team it is,
[54:24.900 -> 54:26.280] they're all updating what's happening. Cause people are paying attention to that. You know, they'll happening live on track. They're always doing it, no matter what team it is, they're all updating what's happening.
[54:26.280 -> 54:28.120] Because people are paying attention to that.
[54:28.120 -> 54:29.440] You know, they'll watch it on TV,
[54:29.440 -> 54:30.580] they'll obviously follow the commentary,
[54:30.580 -> 54:31.980] but they want to know what their favorite team,
[54:31.980 -> 54:33.480] like what's happening, what's,
[54:33.480 -> 54:35.160] because that's where you're going to see it first.
[54:35.160 -> 54:37.240] You know, on TV you'll see the crashes
[54:37.240 -> 54:38.280] and the accidents and stuff,
[54:38.280 -> 54:40.200] but then social is where you'll figure out
[54:40.200 -> 54:41.840] what's actually happening, are the drivers okay,
[54:41.840 -> 54:43.680] and just to give you an example,
[54:43.680 -> 54:45.280] but it's like, they're always on,
[54:45.280 -> 54:47.040] people are always on social media.
[54:47.040 -> 54:50.000] And that's what it is now, it's just content.
[54:50.000 -> 54:52.280] How do you keep feeding this audience?
[54:52.280 -> 54:56.100] We spoke to Joe about his crash in the pod,
[54:56.100 -> 54:58.520] which was like really crazy to talk to him
[54:58.520 -> 55:00.160] because it's the first time we'd ever seen anything like that.
[55:00.160 -> 55:01.560] Thank God he's all right.
[55:01.560 -> 55:03.040] He says about it now, it doesn't even bother him,
[55:03.040 -> 55:04.580] like he's pushed past it completely.
[55:04.580 -> 55:06.080] But where were you at that point?
[55:06.080 -> 55:07.000] I was in the garage.
[55:07.000 -> 55:08.280] And what was it like?
[55:08.280 -> 55:09.160] Man, it was stressful.
[55:09.160 -> 55:11.000] I think it was the most stress I think I've ever felt
[55:11.000 -> 55:12.440] in my entire life.
[55:12.440 -> 55:17.440] It was tough because, yeah, I didn't know what to do
[55:17.440 -> 55:20.720] or say, like, you know, you don't know what's happening
[55:20.720 -> 55:23.480] until you get radioed in something like, you know,
[55:23.480 -> 55:27.280] he's out of the car, he's in the ambulance
[55:27.280 -> 55:30.160] or he's gone to medical, like you don't know what's going on.
[55:30.160 -> 55:32.080] It's just like any driver, you know,
[55:32.080 -> 55:34.200] like you don't want to see anybody be in that situation.
[55:34.200 -> 55:35.040] Well, that's it.
[55:35.040 -> 55:35.860] Once you're within the paddock,
[55:35.860 -> 55:36.960] you'd feel the same for any driver.
[55:36.960 -> 55:38.880] It doesn't have to be, even if it wasn't your team,
[55:38.880 -> 55:40.120] you'd still be there.
[55:40.120 -> 55:41.920] And that's one thing I love about Formula One.
[55:41.920 -> 55:43.480] You do see it when there's any crash,
[55:43.480 -> 55:45.280] like every team is like, wow.
[55:45.280 -> 55:46.120] Like I want-
[55:46.120 -> 55:47.280] George got out and ran over to him, didn't he?
[55:47.280 -> 55:48.320] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[55:48.320 -> 55:49.720] Yeah, like insane.
[55:49.720 -> 55:53.080] What, like, it's just the fact that he was like
[55:53.080 -> 55:54.600] standing there calling out, calling out.
[55:54.600 -> 55:57.120] Yeah, it was, man, that was, that moment was just,
[55:57.120 -> 55:58.440] because we didn't know any of this.
[55:58.440 -> 55:59.280] Yeah.
[55:59.280 -> 56:00.400] You know, we don't, we don't actually see it.
[56:00.400 -> 56:02.600] And it was just, yeah, it was mad.
[56:02.600 -> 56:03.920] It was insane.
[56:03.920 -> 56:06.520] Dude, if you don't mind me asking, how old are you?
[56:06.520 -> 56:07.520] I'm 28.
[56:07.520 -> 56:08.360] 28, so.
[56:08.360 -> 56:10.400] You have absolutely smashed it, mate.
[56:10.400 -> 56:12.000] You've killed it for what you've done so far.
[56:12.000 -> 56:13.360] To be able to say you've done all of that
[56:13.360 -> 56:14.880] and you're 28 is unreal.
[56:14.880 -> 56:16.660] And it means we're gonna get to be on this journey of you
[56:16.660 -> 56:17.500] for like a long time.
[56:17.500 -> 56:18.320] I love that.
[56:18.320 -> 56:19.160] No matter where we go or what we do.
[56:19.160 -> 56:20.080] That's the question, bro.
[56:20.080 -> 56:21.240] What's the next step for you?
[56:21.240 -> 56:22.800] Do you wanna stay in the sport for a while?
[56:22.800 -> 56:24.080] Yeah, yeah, for sure.
[56:24.080 -> 56:27.920] I think I found something I really love, you know?
[56:27.920 -> 56:30.680] And this team is insane.
[56:30.680 -> 56:32.620] They're honestly, they're really great.
[56:32.620 -> 56:33.460] Top down.
[56:34.640 -> 56:36.400] So I'm here to stay.
[56:36.400 -> 56:37.320] I'm here to stay for a while.
[56:37.320 -> 56:38.800] And then I don't know beyond that, man.
[56:38.800 -> 56:39.640] I don't know.
[56:39.640 -> 56:41.840] I'm just, I'm happy.
[56:41.840 -> 56:42.960] Just going to keep it this way.
[56:42.960 -> 56:45.360] As soon as, you know, if another challenge comes along, I'll consider it. But for now I'm happy, just going to keep it this way. As soon as, you know, if another challenge comes along,
[56:45.360 -> 56:46.200] I'll consider it.
[56:46.200 -> 56:49.040] But for now I'm here.
[56:49.040 -> 56:50.800] I think you're in a really safe place with Alfa Romeo
[56:50.800 -> 56:52.160] because like you said, the team are great.
[56:52.160 -> 56:53.680] And especially like people like Stefano
[56:53.680 -> 56:55.080] and all the other people that we met,
[56:55.080 -> 56:59.120] they're so creative and they're so willing to try new ideas.
[56:59.120 -> 57:00.200] And they're good to listen.
[57:00.200 -> 57:01.080] They listen, you know?
[57:01.080 -> 57:02.840] I know we stood there chatting for like two hours
[57:02.840 -> 57:04.760] outside that paddock, just idea, idea, idea.
[57:04.760 -> 57:10.400] We always talk about that because the fucking girl in hospitality made me the biggest whiskey coke.
[57:10.400 -> 57:15.400] So we, us three and Stefano were having this chat and I was like enjoying it.
[57:15.400 -> 57:17.800] By the time I rinsed my drink, I was so pissed.
[57:17.800 -> 57:18.800] Oh man.
[57:18.800 -> 57:22.400] I was just standing there like waiting like that, thinking, fuck me, how long is this conversation going on for?
[57:22.400 -> 57:25.560] Do you know what? I knew that that was the case because I came to talk to you boys after
[57:25.560 -> 57:27.240] and like, I think I was telling you something
[57:27.240 -> 57:29.840] about like the job I was in before or something.
[57:29.840 -> 57:31.840] And like, you were there, you were like looking,
[57:31.840 -> 57:33.960] you were like, exactly your face now.
[57:33.960 -> 57:34.800] Oh yeah, I'm pissed now.
[57:34.800 -> 57:36.840] And you were like, sort of dipping in and out
[57:36.840 -> 57:38.160] and like smiling, you were like.
[57:38.160 -> 57:43.160] I was like, yeah, this guy's fucking drunk, man.
[57:43.160 -> 57:44.240] I was lashed, man.
[57:44.240 -> 57:45.280] Don't give him any more drinks.
[57:45.280 -> 57:48.120] Cause it's a fucking Heineken bar, that's why.
[57:48.120 -> 57:49.840] You probably just sat on the floor drinking all the time.
[57:49.840 -> 57:50.680] Yeah, I was battered.
[57:50.680 -> 57:53.480] To be fair, the first day we were just sat outside
[57:53.480 -> 57:56.120] the Alfa Romeo motorhome on them two chairs,
[57:56.120 -> 57:59.120] like all day and just everyone that went past,
[57:59.120 -> 57:59.960] we were like, hi, hi, hi.
[57:59.960 -> 58:01.680] Do you know what, I felt so bad,
[58:01.680 -> 58:04.600] cause I was like, we're not really like doing anything.
[58:04.600 -> 58:08.960] No way, no one would be more happy just to sit there and watch.
[58:08.960 -> 58:10.680] We sat there and we were like, this is perfect.
[58:10.680 -> 58:11.680] This is the perfect place.
[58:11.680 -> 58:12.680] Yeah, we wanted to go there.
[58:12.680 -> 58:15.400] We would go over to the garage and be like, let's go back to the chairs.
[58:15.400 -> 58:16.400] We were just loving it.
[58:16.400 -> 58:19.160] It was actually really cool to go in the garage.
[58:19.160 -> 58:20.900] It was the first time we've ever seen it.
[58:20.900 -> 58:21.900] It's so different, isn't it?
[58:21.900 -> 58:24.000] Because you don't have the commentary or anything.
[58:24.000 -> 58:25.640] All you're hearing is comms when you're in the garage. It's such a different experience, isn't it? Cause you don't have the commentary or anything. You've just, all you're hearing is comms when you're in the garage.
[58:25.640 -> 58:28.120] It's such a different experience, isn't it?
[58:28.120 -> 58:30.640] I was fascinated by just how, like you said,
[58:30.640 -> 58:31.720] how to a T everyone is.
[58:31.720 -> 58:33.080] Cause there's that guy at the back of the car
[58:33.080 -> 58:35.520] that holds the pole and he like leans it up.
[58:35.520 -> 58:36.360] But when he comes back,
[58:36.360 -> 58:38.400] he's not even looking where the backboard is.
[58:38.400 -> 58:39.520] But then when he pulls it back,
[58:39.520 -> 58:41.800] it's always perfectly just missing the counter.
[58:41.800 -> 58:43.440] Everything's so synchronized.
[58:43.440 -> 58:44.640] And then as soon as the car goes out,
[58:44.640 -> 58:45.680] they like wipe the counter. Everything's so synchronized. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then as soon as the car goes out, they're like, wipe the floor.
[58:45.680 -> 58:50.160] You boys, this sport is so perfected, right?
[58:50.200 -> 58:55.040] Like these guys are like the absolute top of their game from
[58:55.040 -> 58:58.160] from no matter what role you think of, they are the very best.
[58:58.600 -> 59:03.040] So like they just know they just know what to do, when to do it, how to do it.
[59:03.280 -> 59:04.680] They've got it down to a T.
[59:04.680 -> 59:06.800] It's honestly, it's insane to watch.
[59:06.800 -> 59:09.160] Like even just across the paddock,
[59:09.160 -> 59:11.240] there's just so much talent.
[59:11.240 -> 59:12.400] It's insane.
[59:12.400 -> 59:15.560] They just, everything's perfect in F.
[59:15.560 -> 59:17.240] I mean, obviously there's sometimes there's cock-ups,
[59:17.240 -> 59:22.240] but it's insane to see how perfect they can get anything.
[59:22.720 -> 59:23.960] Pit stops or whatever.
[59:23.960 -> 59:24.800] Like it's crazy.
[59:24.800 -> 59:26.200] It even feeds through the media. Yeah
[59:28.320 -> 59:30.320] You are you are one of those people
[59:30.960 -> 59:36.440] Very integral part of the moving machine. I really appreciate it. It's tough bad. It's tough. We keep moving
[59:37.360 -> 59:41.440] I'm really excited to see what else we could do together. I'm sure at some point we'll get out to another race
[59:41.440 -> 59:48.120] I hope snaps will make it there's loads we can do. But brother, thank you so much for everything you've done for
[59:48.120 -> 59:52.720] us. You're always going to be a massive part of this journey. I appreciate it. Yeah, I
[59:52.720 -> 59:55.920] guess that brings us to the end of this episode of Pit Stop Podcast. It does, the camera's
[59:55.920 -> 59:59.800] just died as well. I guess that is the end. That one's still gone. That one's still on,
[59:59.800 -> 01:00:03.600] but that one's gone. So you're going to have to say hello to that one. That's all I'm going
[01:00:03.600 -> 01:00:06.000] to say. Thank you.
[01:00:06.000 -> 01:00:08.000] Guys, thank you so much for tuning in to the Pit Stop Podcast. I've been Fab.
[01:00:08.000 -> 01:00:10.000] I've been Jake. Shai, thank you so much for joining us.
[01:00:10.000 -> 01:00:12.000] You're an absolute legend.
[01:00:12.000 -> 01:00:14.000] Thank you for our gift. That is insane.
[01:00:14.000 -> 01:00:16.000] That's going on the wall for sure.
[01:00:16.000 -> 01:00:18.000] We'll get you to sign it.
[01:00:18.000 -> 01:00:20.000] It's the first time I've actually seen it.
[01:00:20.000 -> 01:00:22.000] It's so sick. Thank you so much.
[01:00:22.000 -> 01:00:24.000] Rate the podcast five stars, hit the follow button, and we'll be back on Monday.
[01:00:24.000 -> 01:00:25.720] Just so you all know. This is Monday's episode. so much. Rate the podcast 5 stars, hit the follow button and we'll be back on Monday
[01:00:25.720 -> 01:00:32.280] just so you all know. This is Monday's episode. So we're back on Thursday. Oh my god, at the
[01:00:32.280 -> 01:00:37.200] time people listen to this we're in Italy filming with a massive guest. Yes, we're in
[01:00:37.200 -> 01:00:43.760] Maranello, say no more. See you guys later, you'll have to guess. Shai, thank you bro.
[01:00:43.760 -> 01:00:46.000] Bye bye.
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