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Ferrari Test Driver ROBERT SHWARTZMAN On PitStop Podcast! Today's BONUS EPISODE is a very special one... We flew out to Italy for the day to film with the legend Robert Shwartzman in the Ferrari Museum in Maranello. Such an amazing place and such a fun day trip. Robert will be driving in FP1 at the Austin Grand Prix for Ferrari and it was great to chat with him before and learn more about his journey to where he is now. SUBSCRIBE for more guests... SO MANY COMING!
Robert thank you so much for taking the time to join us on the show, we loved having you on and would love to catch up soon. Wishing you all the best for the future, we're right behind you! Absolute legend and a pleasure to film with! Ferrari thank you so much for letting us film in the Museum. An amazing background and you guys were so helpful, we really appreciate that! Davide & Angelina you're absolute HEROS! See you soon
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**Episode Overview:**
The Pit Stop podcast, hosted by Jake Boys and Fabio Bocca, features a special guest interview with Robert Schwartzman, a Formula One driver for the Ferrari Driver Academy. The podcast is recorded in the Ferrari Museum in Maranello, Italy, and offers a unique perspective on Schwartzman's journey to Formula One and his experiences as a professional racing driver.
**Key Insights and Perspectives:**
* Schwartzman shares his excitement about his upcoming opportunity to drive in Formula One for the first time at the United States Grand Prix in Austin, Texas. He acknowledges the pressure and nerves that come with this new challenge but expresses his determination to prepare thoroughly and deliver strong results.
* Schwartzman emphasizes the importance of physical conditioning and simulator training in preparing for Formula One races. He highlights the need for neck training, upper body workouts, and extensive sim work to familiarize himself with the car's behavior and race strategies.
* Schwartzman describes the process of developing the new 2022 Formula One car, emphasizing the extensive sim work and collaboration with engineers to optimize the car's performance. He expresses curiosity about how closely the sim experience matches the actual driving experience.
* Schwartzman recounts his journey to becoming a professional racing driver, starting with his early passion for cars and his first experience driving a go-kart at the age of four. He highlights the role of his father in supporting his racing aspirations and the importance of hard work and dedication in achieving success in motorsport.
* Schwartzman discusses his involvement with the Ferrari Driver Academy, which he joined in 2017. He expresses his gratitude for the opportunity to work with Ferrari and the valuable experiences he has gained as a member of the academy, including living, training, and developing as a driver in Maranello.
* Schwartzman reveals his love for cars and his unique approach to naming his vehicles based on their colors and personalities. He emphasizes the importance of keeping his cars clean and well-maintained, considering them like pets that require attention and care.
* Schwartzman shares his dream Ferrari cars, expressing his admiration for the F50 and the FXXK. He describes the F50 as a childhood favorite and the FXXK as an incredible racetrack-focused vehicle with a powerful engine.
* Schwartzman reflects on his experiences in Formula 3 and Formula 2, highlighting the challenges and differences he encountered in each series. He acknowledges the difficulties he faced in Formula 2, particularly with adapting to the different car and driving style, but emphasizes his determination to learn and improve.
* Schwartzman discusses his role as a third driver for the Ferrari Formula One team, assisting with engineering discussions and providing input based on his experience as a professional racing driver. He emphasizes the importance of being a part of the team and contributing to the overall success of the team's efforts.
**Controversies and Insights:**
* Schwartzman's comments about his struggles in Formula 2 provide insight into the challenges that young drivers face in adapting to different cars and driving styles as they progress through the ranks of motorsport.
* Schwartzman's passion for cars and his unique approach to naming his vehicles offer a glimpse into his personality and his deep connection to the world of motorsport.
**Overall Message:**
The podcast episode provides an engaging and informative conversation with Robert Schwartzman, offering insights into his journey to Formula One, his experiences as a professional racing driver, and his relationship with the Ferrari team. Schwartzman's enthusiasm for motorsport and his dedication to his craft shine through, inspiring listeners with his determination and passion for racing. # Robert Shwartzman: The Rising Star of Ferrari
## Introduction
In this two-part podcast episode, we delve into the world of Formula One racing, specifically focusing on the rising star of Ferrari, Robert Shwartzman. The episode is hosted by Jake Boys and Fabio Bocca, who engage in a lively and informative conversation with Shwartzman, exploring his journey in the world of motorsports, his aspirations, and his experience as a Ferrari driver.
## Shwartzman's Background and Early Career
Robert Shwartzman's passion for racing began at an early age, and he quickly rose through the ranks of karting, showcasing exceptional talent and determination. His success in karting led him to Formula 4, where he continued to impress with his driving skills and strategic decision-making.
## Joining the Ferrari Driver Academy
In 2017, Shwartzman's career took a significant turn when he joined the prestigious Ferrari Driver Academy. This marked a pivotal moment for the young driver, as he gained access to world-class facilities, expert coaching, and the opportunity to learn from some of the best in the sport.
## Success in Formula 3 and Formula 2
Shwartzman's talent shone through in Formula 3, where he secured multiple victories and podium finishes. His impressive performances earned him the title of Formula 3 champion in 2019, further solidifying his status as a rising star in the racing world.
In Formula 2, Shwartzman continued to showcase his skills, consistently finishing among the top drivers and securing several podiums. His performances caught the attention of Formula One teams, and he soon found himself on the radar of Scuderia Ferrari.
## The Opportunity to Drive for Ferrari
In 2022, Shwartzman's dream came true when he was given the opportunity to drive for Ferrari in the first practice session of the United States Grand Prix. This marked a significant milestone in his career, and he expressed his excitement and gratitude for the chance to represent the iconic Italian team.
## Shwartzman's Approach to Racing
Shwartzman emphasized the importance of teamwork and collaboration in Formula One. He highlighted the value of working closely with his engineers and mechanics to optimize the car's performance and make strategic decisions during races.
## Insights into the Ferrari Team
Shwartzman provided valuable insights into the inner workings of the Ferrari team, highlighting the team's dedication to excellence and the constant pursuit of improvement. He spoke about the team's commitment to innovation and the utilization of cutting-edge technology to gain an edge on the competition.
## Conclusion
The podcast episode concluded with Shwartzman expressing his gratitude for the support he has received throughout his career and his excitement for the future. He emphasized the importance of staying focused and continuing to work hard, as he strives to achieve his ultimate goal of becoming a Formula One World Champion.
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[00:55.560 -> 00:56.560] Really? Yeah.
[00:56.560 -> 00:57.560] Can you freestyle now?
[00:57.560 -> 00:58.560] It's pretty mega.
[00:58.560 -> 00:59.560] Okay, come on.
[00:59.560 -> 01:15.880] Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of the Pit Stop podcast.
[01:15.880 -> 01:18.880] And you guessed it, the Pit Stop boys are on the road once again.
[01:18.880 -> 01:19.880] This place is amazing.
[01:19.880 -> 01:22.160] We are currently in the Ferrari Museum.
[01:22.160 -> 01:25.720] We've come out to Maranello for the day, flown into Bologna.
[01:25.720 -> 01:26.560] Bologna.
[01:26.560 -> 01:27.380] Is that right?
[01:27.380 -> 01:29.280] 7.30 flight out, and then we've got a flight back
[01:29.280 -> 01:30.640] straight after this.
[01:30.640 -> 01:33.180] But we have got a very special guest sat with us.
[01:33.180 -> 01:34.880] We do have a very special guest.
[01:34.880 -> 01:35.720] What is it?
[01:35.720 -> 01:36.560] Yeah, what?
[01:38.120 -> 01:39.680] Ladies and gents, please make some noise
[01:39.680 -> 01:40.760] for Robert Schwartzman.
[01:40.760 -> 01:41.600] Woo!
[01:41.600 -> 01:42.440] Yeah!
[01:42.440 -> 01:44.740] How are you doing, mate?
[01:44.740 -> 01:47.520] I'm good, you? Yeah, very good. Happy to be out here. Yeah are you doing mate? I'm good you? Yeah very good, happy to be out here.
[01:47.520 -> 01:52.400] Yeah you like Italy? Yeah well you are a bit Italian. I am, I'm half Italian.
[01:52.400 -> 01:56.520] Really? I don't speak any. I know, sacrilege. You need to, you need to
[01:56.520 -> 02:00.900] improve that. You can teach me a little bit. It's fine, it's easy, we make few
[02:00.900 -> 02:04.660] lessons, it's fine. Perfect, I'm happy to be here man. It was raining back in
[02:04.660 -> 02:05.600] England so we come here, there's a. Perfect, I'm happy to be here man. It was raining back in England.
[02:05.600 -> 02:08.040] So we come here, there's a bit of sunshine.
[02:08.040 -> 02:09.760] But yeah, how has your day been mate?
[02:09.760 -> 02:10.600] My day is awesome.
[02:10.600 -> 02:14.200] I woke up, had breakfast, good mood, arrived here.
[02:14.200 -> 02:15.920] Now we're gonna have a nice interview here,
[02:15.920 -> 02:16.920] we're gonna have a nice chat.
[02:16.920 -> 02:19.720] We're in a museum with Ferrari wins.
[02:19.720 -> 02:22.680] I don't know, later maybe you'll show them a bit
[02:22.680 -> 02:23.640] of the trophies.
[02:23.640 -> 02:25.920] It seems to be a really nice place to be in, you know?
[02:25.920 -> 02:27.760] and yeah, just have some fun
[02:27.760 -> 02:28.960] what is this called again?
[02:28.960 -> 02:32.160] Sala delle Vittorie
[02:32.160 -> 02:33.520] that's it, Sala delle Vittorie
[02:33.520 -> 02:35.760] it's probably the most beautiful place we've ever done a podcast
[02:35.760 -> 02:37.040] it's incredible, look at these cars
[02:37.040 -> 02:38.000] much better than our background at home
[02:38.000 -> 02:40.880] have you ever been on a podcast before?
[02:40.880 -> 02:42.400] no, that's the first time guys
[02:42.400 -> 02:43.360] this is your first time?
[02:43.360 -> 02:44.160] yes, it's my first time
[02:44.160 -> 02:44.960] wow
[02:44.960 -> 02:49.360] ok, so basically we just chat and it's like not a formal interview.
[02:49.360 -> 02:53.920] I've seen some, I've seen some, so I have the general idea it's much nicer like because
[02:53.920 -> 02:58.680] you can chat, you can laugh, you can tell stories and stuff. It's much more relaxed
[02:58.680 -> 03:02.160] interview we can call it this way. But yeah, it's my first time.
[03:02.160 -> 03:05.440] I want to go straight in with, you just had your birthday a couple of weeks ago.
[03:05.440 -> 03:06.560] You were out in Monza for it.
[03:07.440 -> 03:08.400] Was it Monza weekend?
[03:08.400 -> 03:09.280] Or have I got that completely wrong?
[03:09.280 -> 03:12.080] No, Monza was the weekend before, I think.
[03:12.080 -> 03:13.760] Okay, so the next one.
[03:13.760 -> 03:14.640] Get everything wrong here.
[03:14.640 -> 03:15.440] Yeah, it's fine.
[03:15.440 -> 03:16.320] How was your birthday?
[03:16.320 -> 03:17.200] What did you get up to?
[03:17.760 -> 03:19.840] Well, I just went with friends.
[03:20.560 -> 03:26.800] We went to separate a bit from the whole world, just to enjoy some time together.
[03:26.800 -> 03:30.560] We went out a little bit, had some nice places, nice dinner.
[03:30.560 -> 03:35.280] I don't know, just spent some time a bit with the close people around me and enjoyed it.
[03:35.280 -> 03:36.880] So it was really good.
[03:36.880 -> 03:37.880] A bit of partying?
[03:37.880 -> 03:38.880] Yeah, a little bit.
[03:38.880 -> 03:39.880] Not too much.
[03:39.880 -> 03:40.880] I've seen the dancing on TikTok.
[03:40.880 -> 03:41.880] I know you love to dance.
[03:41.880 -> 03:42.880] Oh, your TikTok account is fire.
[03:42.880 -> 03:43.880] Probably one of the best TikTok content creators in this world.
[03:43.880 -> 03:44.880] Well, thank you.
[03:44.880 -> 03:45.360] I'm Damian, I'm from the UK. I'm from the UK. I'm from the UK. I'm from the UK. I'm from the dancing on TikTok. I know you love to dance. Oh, your TikTok account is fire.
[03:45.360 -> 03:48.160] Probably one of the best TikTok content creators in this world.
[03:48.160 -> 03:50.960] Well, thank you. I'm doing my best, to be honest.
[03:50.960 -> 03:56.560] I don't know if you know, guys, but initially the TikTok idea for me was mainly just to
[03:56.560 -> 04:00.640] make people laugh and make it a bit more, you know, sort of happy mood.
[04:00.640 -> 04:06.240] And yeah, I think, I hope that people enjoyed watching my TikToks nowadays I
[04:06.240 -> 04:10.440] struggle a bit more because of the how much time I have because I spend more
[04:10.440 -> 04:14.680] time here working and I don't have much time on TikToks but yeah whenever I have
[04:14.680 -> 04:18.600] a free free time I'm always down to do some some cool ideas so maybe at some
[04:18.600 -> 04:28.680] point if you have some cool ideas you can you can share we can do something. We can do all sorts of dances. So you actually live here in Maranello?
[04:28.680 -> 04:34.440] Yes, correct. And you come here a lot? Yes, I have a lot of sim days so next to this
[04:34.440 -> 04:39.240] building there is the factory and I'm going there nearly every day well quite
[04:39.240 -> 04:44.440] a lot of days in a week and yeah I work there at the sim yeah like a proper work.
[04:44.440 -> 04:45.340] How often do you drive the sim? Yeah like a proper work. How often do
[04:45.340 -> 04:50.120] you drive the sim? Well let's say nowadays it's around three to four days
[04:50.120 -> 04:54.000] a week and the working week is five so basically most of the working days.
[04:54.000 -> 04:59.440] However soon FP1 in Austin. Yes. We have to congratulate you on that, that's
[04:59.440 -> 05:04.400] incredible. Thank you. How are you feeling right now knowing that that's what like a
[05:04.400 -> 05:05.000] month away?
[05:05.000 -> 05:10.000] Well, yeah, you know, it's, well, first of all, it's amazing. I'm very happy. I'm very excited.
[05:10.000 -> 05:15.000] At the same time, it's a bit nervous because, A, I was never been in America. Never.
[05:15.000 -> 05:16.000] You've never been to America?
[05:16.000 -> 05:18.000] I've never been in America. I don't know what it's like.
[05:18.000 -> 05:21.000] Everything's really big. That's what I found.
[05:22.000 -> 05:27.000] That's what I found. Alright, we're not going to talk about it.
[05:27.000 -> 05:29.000] What big are you referring to?
[05:29.000 -> 05:30.000] But it's fine, it's fine.
[05:30.000 -> 05:33.000] The food portion is massive.
[05:33.000 -> 05:34.000] It's fine, it's fine.
[05:34.000 -> 05:38.000] But yeah, so never been in America, never been in Austin.
[05:38.000 -> 05:40.000] It seems like a very difficult track.
[05:40.000 -> 05:43.000] I watched the races, I also did a bit of sim.
[05:43.000 -> 05:46.000] It's a pretty difficult track. So yeah, I'm a bit excited of sim. It's a pretty difficult track.
[05:46.000 -> 05:51.000] So yeah, I'm a bit excited but at the same time a little bit nervous, just because a
[05:51.000 -> 05:52.280] bit of pressure there.
[05:52.280 -> 05:59.000] But still I think it's an amazing opportunity and I just, this stage I have a month, I have
[05:59.000 -> 06:01.160] a month to prepare myself a bit for it.
[06:01.160 -> 06:10.560] We're also going to do some sim work with guys so I can, you know, get a bit used to how the Formula One is behaving in Austin and how everything works there. So like
[06:10.560 -> 06:16.240] this, whenever I sit down in the car I'm 100% fully ready and prepared and hopefully gonna show
[06:16.240 -> 06:19.760] you some nice results there. Oh we're gonna be cheering you on, we can't wait. Oh we're gonna
[06:19.760 -> 06:24.080] be tuning in. How do you prepare, I mean apart from getting in the sim, how do you prepare for
[06:24.080 -> 06:25.360] something like that? Well, obviously quite a simple one, physical mean, apart from getting in the sim, how do you prepare for something like that?
[06:27.880 -> 06:31.120] Well, obviously quite a simple one, physical conditions. So just going to the gym, you know, working out with my, with my trainer,
[06:31.140 -> 06:33.920] who is just, you know, typical stuff. Like for a driver,
[06:33.920 -> 06:38.080] we use most of the time is neck training or like upper body just to, to be,
[06:38.160 -> 06:40.520] to be fully fit in. Um,
[06:40.560 -> 06:44.040] then obviously the sim is the important thing, like I said,
[06:44.040 -> 06:47.360] because it's not just you sort of drive and just have fun
[06:47.360 -> 06:49.360] But at the same time you also learn
[06:49.640 -> 06:53.000] What's actually happening with it with a car in this track?
[06:53.000 -> 06:56.880] Where is the bombs the curbs which lines you should take which gears and everything?
[06:56.880 -> 07:01.840] So you already sort of before you even drive the real car you already set your sort of point marks
[07:01.840 -> 07:05.120] How it's gonna be on the actual track. So this
[07:05.120 -> 07:09.780] is very important. Also probably you, we also do that some preparation work, so
[07:09.780 -> 07:13.180] we discuss with engineers what's the program going to be like, which tires
[07:13.180 -> 07:16.260] we're going to use and what's the options we're going to get, so they also
[07:16.260 -> 07:20.500] can target a bit my work and what I should do for them as well to give them
[07:20.500 -> 07:24.180] some help as well, some info. So yeah, just general work together and then
[07:24.180 -> 07:25.040] when we go there,
[07:25.040 -> 07:26.640] hopefully it's all going to be spot on.
[07:26.640 -> 07:28.240] I'm sure it's going to be perfect, my friend.
[07:28.240 -> 07:32.320] Are you just doing Austin on the sim and on games over and over again on repeat?
[07:32.320 -> 07:34.240] Is it Austin on repeat ready for FP1?
[07:34.240 -> 07:37.760] Well, I will do it, not at this stage, but closer to the days,
[07:37.760 -> 07:40.640] I will sort of do most of it just Austin on repeat just to, you know...
[07:40.640 -> 07:42.320] I suppose there's no point doing another track, is there?
[07:42.320 -> 07:44.640] Yeah, of course. The main focus is going to be Austin.
[07:44.640 -> 07:46.000] Just drop a Ramon, probing for Austin.
[07:46.000 -> 07:51.000] First time in America, and first time in this season's regulation car.
[07:51.000 -> 07:53.000] But you've drove F1 cars from last season, right?
[07:53.000 -> 07:59.000] Yeah, from 2021, 2020, 2018. I drove different ones, but the new ones, still no.
[07:59.000 -> 08:00.000] You haven't driven 2022's car yet?
[08:00.000 -> 08:03.000] No, I did the development of it. A lot of development, a lot of work.
[08:03.000 -> 08:08.680] So on the sim, yeah, I know everything about it, but on the real actual road, no, not yet.
[08:08.680 -> 08:13.720] And I'm also curious to feel how close it is, how close it is to the sim and what's
[08:13.720 -> 08:17.000] the differences and how does it feel in actually in real car.
[08:17.000 -> 08:19.400] What, sorry man, what game do you use?
[08:19.400 -> 08:24.800] Like when, cause we use F1 2022, but you must have like a, you have like a dedicated sim,
[08:24.800 -> 08:29.240] right? Yeah. We've got traction control ABS everything yeah well we set quick lap
[08:29.240 -> 08:35.520] times as well I know well I know the F1 but it's the sim that we use I don't
[08:35.520 -> 08:38.480] know actually the name of the program honestly I don't know but I think it's
[08:38.480 -> 08:43.280] a it's a sort of like I don't know a special program that was built up
[08:43.280 -> 08:45.040] properly for actual work.
[08:45.040 -> 08:49.680] So the target on the sim is actually to get as close as possible to reality
[08:49.680 -> 08:54.440] because we know how many test days guys have in Formula One. They have
[08:54.440 -> 08:57.840] few test days at the beginning, a little bit maybe with Pirelli test and stuff,
[08:57.840 -> 09:01.520] but you don't really get much driving in the real car to get some experience
[09:01.520 -> 09:07.240] or some information on the car. So the simulator is the biggest tool the team has
[09:07.240 -> 09:09.920] to develop their car and to understand what's happening.
[09:09.920 -> 09:11.840] So as I said, I don't know the names,
[09:11.840 -> 09:14.080] but it's definitely not Formula One 2022.
[09:14.080 -> 09:15.840] That's I can tell you for sure.
[09:15.840 -> 09:16.680] Well, if you play it,
[09:16.680 -> 09:18.200] we'll have to like hop into a lobby sometime
[09:18.200 -> 09:19.040] and actually like try and race each other.
[09:19.040 -> 09:21.520] Yeah, it's been a while since I played like a Formula One
[09:21.520 -> 09:23.880] game. I think last time I did it was the
[09:23.880 -> 09:28.360] the Ferrari e-sports event, which was I think more than a year ago. So it's been a while since I drove like a Formula One game. I think last time I did it was the Ferrari eSports event which was more than a year ago so it's been a while
[09:28.360 -> 09:31.680] since I drove it. Let's take it right back to the beginning because yeah you
[09:31.680 -> 09:34.080] know we know about you what we've seen online and we're really excited to come
[09:34.080 -> 09:37.000] and chat to you but we'd love to talk about your journey to how you got here
[09:37.000 -> 09:40.520] like when did you start racing? Let's go right back to the beginning.
[09:40.520 -> 09:50.200] Let me go with it. Okay so I will tell you a pre-story what how did it actually happen that generally my dad put me in sort of like a go-kart and how he saw it.
[09:50.240 -> 09:56.000] So the story is quite interesting. Not many people know it, but hopefully now more people are going to listen to it.
[09:56.000 -> 09:58.000] Yeah, first go-kart exclusive. Let's go!
[09:58.000 -> 10:05.760] So basically we were in Israel and we went to my aunt and she has also a kid which is my cousin.
[10:05.760 -> 10:08.720] He's two years older than me. So he was four, I was two.
[10:09.200 -> 10:12.600] And they just gifted him like, you know, this like electrical quad,
[10:12.600 -> 10:14.760] like, you know, for kids, made out of plastic.
[10:14.760 -> 10:18.080] You put the pedal and you drive it. So basically, and they just give it to him.
[10:18.080 -> 10:21.280] And as a normal kid, he drove like for 10 minutes, then he got bored
[10:21.280 -> 10:24.880] and he just stood up and went to play some other games.
[10:30.640 -> 10:35.480] And when we went to the house, I saw the squad. And my dad was obviously looking at what is attracting me the most and he knew that I really
[10:35.480 -> 10:39.040] like cars and I had always the car models and stuff. And when he saw that, I
[10:39.040 -> 10:43.040] straightaway jumped on that quad. I was running this quad for like two hours
[10:43.040 -> 10:48.160] until the battery ran out. And he said there was like a little bit of garden and I was doing my
[10:48.160 -> 10:52.480] own racetrack at two years old so I was already like looking at the corners that
[10:52.480 -> 10:57.040] I was already like imagining that I'm driving something like real. So obviously
[10:57.040 -> 11:00.960] as my dad saw it he was like okay this he has something that you know
[11:00.960 -> 11:05.000] attracts him this way so it's definitely something he likes to do.
[11:05.000 -> 11:10.000] So when I was four, my dad, the first ever time, made me try the go-kart.
[11:10.000 -> 11:13.000] Very small go-kart. I think I have a picture somewhere where I was like...
[11:13.000 -> 11:15.000] Literally, I couldn't even reach the pedals.
[11:15.000 -> 11:16.000] I was so small.
[11:16.000 -> 11:18.000] If you can find the photo, we'll drop it on the video.
[11:18.000 -> 11:20.000] I'll try, I'll try.
[11:20.000 -> 11:23.000] But yeah, I was so small, it was so funny, this picture.
[11:23.000 -> 11:29.040] I had the go-kart, It's just four tires the chassis without any like bumpers or anything
[11:29.040 -> 11:33.780] just like a chassis with a steering wheel and a little little engine like I don't know 60 CC or whatever and
[11:35.180 -> 11:38.560] Yeah, then I tried it on the car park with with with my mates
[11:38.560 -> 11:40.160] There were some other kids as well driving
[11:40.160 -> 11:46.120] So we tried to see and I really liked it and it was something that my dad was like really
[11:46.680 -> 11:51.360] Seeing that I was into it and from then on he just he just started making me drive more and more
[11:51.360 -> 11:55.240] I start to compete in races and then I start like winning or like, you know
[11:55.240 -> 12:01.680] getting the podiums and he saw that I also have something that basically proves that I'm capable of doing that and
[12:01.940 -> 12:11.560] When I was six the first time I moved to Italy. We went to Italy because like in Europe, in Italy, there was the most amount of like professional racing, go-kart racing stuff.
[12:11.560 -> 12:18.360] So all the best categories and the most people and the most prestigious racing was actually in Italy.
[12:18.520 -> 12:23.480] So we moved to Italy and as I said, like it just then it just started to grow because I started again,
[12:23.480 -> 12:25.600] I started winning and started showing the results and my dad was like going going on and then with the age I said, just then it started to grow because I started winning and showing the results
[12:25.600 -> 12:27.480] and my dad was going on and on.
[12:27.480 -> 12:31.760] And then with the age I started getting up on the categories, basically like in school.
[12:31.760 -> 12:36.400] You know, you have the elementary, mid-school, high school and basically that's how my career
[12:36.400 -> 12:40.720] went up and then I just went forward and well, here I am.
[12:40.720 -> 12:41.720] It worked!
[12:41.720 -> 12:43.840] Yes, it did work.
[12:43.840 -> 12:47.000] How did you get involved in the greatest F1 team in the world?
[12:47.000 -> 12:51.000] Well, that started from the end of 2017.
[12:51.000 -> 12:57.000] I was in Formula Renault and at that stage I was not in any program with no one.
[12:57.000 -> 12:59.000] I was mainly just by myself.
[12:59.000 -> 13:09.880] And at some point I just received sort of like Let's call it invitation later from from Ferrari that they were interested in in putting me in their junior program or like
[13:10.000 -> 13:12.000] Driver Academy, it's called
[13:12.640 -> 13:16.680] And yeah, I was super hyped I was like damn I'm gonna be like a Ferrari
[13:21.120 -> 13:25.920] And yeah, and then we talked and at the end of the day, at the end of the 17,
[13:25.920 -> 13:29.080] I became a Ferrari driver academy driver and
[13:29.640 -> 13:34.400] from then on just my life started to go together with Ferrari.
[13:34.400 -> 13:40.360] I started living here, started working here, training and you know, sort of developing myself here.
[13:40.360 -> 13:50.000] And that's where it went. But yeah, it all begins from one I'm a huge car fan okay I love cars without that I think I would not enjoy as much
[13:50.000 -> 13:56.560] as I do the racing and anything related to cars environment because like you
[13:56.560 -> 14:01.480] might consider me crazy but I also sometimes speak with cars and I have the names of my cars
[14:01.480 -> 14:03.480] and stuff like this.
[14:03.480 -> 14:06.000] What car do you drive and what's your car called?
[14:06.000 -> 14:07.000] My car?
[14:07.000 -> 14:09.000] Yeah, what do you drive and what's it called?
[14:09.000 -> 14:12.000] Well, normally I drive a Stelvio.
[14:12.000 -> 14:13.000] Okay.
[14:13.000 -> 14:15.000] Because it's a company car, so I drive it.
[14:15.000 -> 14:17.000] Other cars I can't tell you.
[14:17.000 -> 14:19.000] It's a secret.
[14:19.000 -> 14:20.000] I can't tell you, unfortunately.
[14:20.000 -> 14:23.000] But I have other cars also.
[14:23.000 -> 14:26.760] The names, it depends. Sometimes I have a car that
[14:26.760 -> 14:32.560] has this emerald color and I call it Emerald as the color of the car.
[14:32.560 -> 14:38.160] Other cars I can call it a bit in a different sort of ways. It depends
[14:38.160 -> 14:41.360] on how I feel it and you know yeah I really treat them like they're real, like
[14:41.360 -> 14:44.800] really like they're real, like my pets or something. You keep them clean all the time?
[14:44.800 -> 14:45.000] No, not all the time, but I like they're real, like my pets or something. You keep them cleaned all the time?
[14:45.000 -> 14:48.500] No, not all the time, but I like to keep them clean, nice, everything.
[14:48.500 -> 14:53.000] If there is something broken, it's going to itch me so much that I need to immediately fix it.
[14:53.000 -> 14:55.000] Like immediately, it has to be perfect.
[14:55.000 -> 14:58.500] You wouldn't get along with Fab's guy, very much everything is broken on his car.
[14:58.500 -> 15:02.000] Honestly, we drove to Switzerland the other week, I don't know how it made it, man.
[15:02.000 -> 15:04.000] It was due to a service like 300 miles ago.
[15:04.000 -> 15:08.720] What car do you have? A Golf. A Golf golf a golf yeah but golf's arrives come on it's good mate it's a good car
[15:08.720 -> 15:13.120] it got us to where we needed to go every single engine light was on every single every single
[15:13.120 -> 15:17.680] light's on yeah all right we made it what would be your dream ferrari if you could pick any ferrari
[15:17.680 -> 15:22.080] what would you have oh that's a good one the road is a nice if I could actually choose two
[15:22.080 -> 15:25.680] one is gonna be an old one so it's f F50. I'm in love with F50.
[15:25.680 -> 15:30.360] That's why like when I was kid, I love F50. Now, I would probably take the
[15:31.000 -> 15:36.880] FXXK, I think it's called like this. FXXK. So it's basically a LaFerrari but for a racetrack.
[15:36.880 -> 15:41.860] Oh wow. It's unbelievable. It looks so beautiful. It's got a racing engine in it. Yeah, I don't know.
[15:41.860 -> 15:47.080] I'm not sure what engine it has to be honest, but I know that it's mainly used on the racetrack you can't it's not not road
[15:47.080 -> 15:51.960] car okay got you but yeah it's amazing like I would get that one and F50
[15:51.960 -> 15:57.080] you know what the 50 looks like right? no I don't know much about cars. F40?
[15:57.080 -> 16:05.400] give me a sec, a bit of education Ferrari cars going. Look at this. This.
[16:05.400 -> 16:06.400] Oh wow.
[16:06.400 -> 16:07.400] Yeah, that is pretty.
[16:07.400 -> 16:08.400] That's lovely.
[16:08.400 -> 16:09.400] That one.
[16:09.400 -> 16:10.400] That's a very pretty car.
[16:10.400 -> 16:11.400] It must be quite pricey, eh?
[16:11.400 -> 16:12.400] It is.
[16:12.400 -> 16:14.400] It's very expensive, it's very rare, but yeah.
[16:14.400 -> 16:16.880] I don't know, it's just so beautiful.
[16:16.880 -> 16:19.720] When I was a kid, I remember I used to have a poster on my wall and it had every single
[16:19.720 -> 16:22.040] Ferrari that I'd ever made.
[16:22.040 -> 16:24.840] And I used to pick out that one in particular, it was one of my favorites.
[16:24.840 -> 16:25.840] Never knew what it was called though.
[16:25.840 -> 16:30.800] Well that's good, I just had some car models when I was small, just collecting the car
[16:30.800 -> 16:31.800] models.
[16:31.800 -> 16:32.800] I still have them, I still have the collection.
[16:32.800 -> 16:33.800] You still have them?
[16:33.800 -> 16:34.800] So do you!
[16:34.800 -> 16:35.800] Yeah, I've got a few.
[16:35.800 -> 16:36.800] What are they?
[16:36.800 -> 16:37.800] They're called Mini Champs.
[16:37.800 -> 16:38.800] Mini Champs?
[16:38.800 -> 16:39.800] Mini Champs, yeah.
[16:39.800 -> 16:40.800] But they're like Formula 1 cars.
[16:40.800 -> 16:41.800] Oh right, okay.
[16:41.800 -> 16:48.800] No, I had just normal, like it was size 1 to 18, like normal cars and yeah, I was just collecting them, different types.
[16:48.800 -> 16:50.000] That's a cool collection to have.
[16:50.000 -> 16:52.000] Yeah, I still have it just for memory.
[16:52.000 -> 16:55.000] Well, that's the journey into where you got now, through the Driver Academy.
[16:55.000 -> 17:00.500] I was watching last night as I was going to bed all your highlights from F3. I want to start on F3.
[17:00.500 -> 17:01.000] Alright.
[17:01.000 -> 17:05.600] Because there was one thing you said when you won it, an interview straight after, you're standing there and
[17:06.240 -> 17:10.740] the guy comes up to you and you're like, I've had like two hours sleep in the last two days for this race.
[17:10.740 -> 17:16.680] I wanted to talk to you about that because when, you know, I do things and there's times where I can't sleep
[17:16.680 -> 17:21.900] or I can't stop thinking about it, but what's going through your head when you're about to, it's like a championship race?
[17:22.640 -> 17:28.440] Well, yeah, I can tell you, talk it through, it's actually an interesting story that it's as a mental race like well yeah I can tell you talk through it's actually interesting story that it's as a as a mental sort of
[17:28.440 -> 17:31.960] situation what was happening so yeah obviously imagine how much pressure I
[17:31.960 -> 17:36.400] had it's the final race I have like I'm fighting for the championship I have
[17:36.400 -> 17:41.440] good chances of winning but still it it's not done yet yeah I go I have sort
[17:41.440 -> 17:45.880] of a home race where there is gonna be a a lot of people watching me and it's even
[17:45.880 -> 17:48.280] more adding up to the situation.
[17:48.280 -> 17:54.560] So everything was going there and there is my family, my dad there, the people who I
[17:54.560 -> 17:57.120] love, everybody's cheering for me.
[17:57.120 -> 18:06.040] And two days before the qualifying, the two days I, like I said, I slept like two hours because I was like
[18:06.520 -> 18:12.720] constantly thinking about the like, what should I do or like what's gonna happen when I'm gonna become a
[18:12.920 -> 18:17.200] champion or if I'm not gonna become a champion. All of different type of thoughts
[18:17.920 -> 18:22.720] which were very difficult to get away. I knew it was like, come on, I need to sleep, like get it out of head.
[18:22.720 -> 18:28.160] But it still keeps on going, you know, it's like when you really really worry about something. It just doesn't go
[18:28.820 -> 18:33.980] So and to be honest when I when it when I arrived to the qualifying I was quite dead like
[18:35.060 -> 18:38.800] Mentally like I was very tired. Obviously. I slept four hours in two nights
[18:39.020 -> 18:45.100] This is not what what helps you especially for an athlete. It's not enough. Yeah. Yeah, that's not enough at all
[18:45.200 -> 18:51.100] So I was very very scared that okay now because of that I'm gonna sort of like screw it up
[18:51.400 -> 18:53.400] screw up the the qualifying and
[18:53.860 -> 18:58.440] Damn, like I was like what's gonna happen? But at the end of the day, I took Paul
[18:58.440 -> 19:01.580] Yeah, I took Paul and I was so surprised of
[19:02.800 -> 19:08.000] Of how I did it because I didn't understand like how I'm so tired. Normally I should be destroyed
[19:08.000 -> 19:10.000] I should not be focused or concentrated
[19:10.200 -> 19:16.200] But at the moment I sat down in the car and I went for quality. It's like I changed like I woke up the energy
[19:16.200 -> 19:21.760] Okay. Yeah, not the energy but like I woke up I and and I just drove the whole quality on just on my instincts
[19:21.760 -> 19:28.640] So I did not think of anything I was so tired of thinking because my brain was already so tired that I just
[19:28.640 -> 19:34.000] let my sort of instinct flow just drove the car as I feel like it driving and
[19:34.000 -> 19:37.400] obviously the car was amazing the car balance was good so everything was all
[19:37.400 -> 19:41.000] combined and then I took pole and as soon as I took pole I sort of had
[19:41.000 -> 19:45.360] inside myself like this calm where I was was like, all right, we took pole
[19:45.360 -> 19:47.900] We have a good starting position. I got extra four points
[19:47.900 -> 19:52.160] I can be calm and tomorrow we just need to finish the race and we take we take the title
[19:52.160 -> 19:54.820] So two season Formula 2 fourth and second, right?
[19:55.560 -> 19:58.560] Yes, that's correct. Yeah, that is correct. Yeah
[20:01.680 -> 20:04.240] How was the move from F3 to F2 for you
[20:04.760 -> 20:07.340] How was the move from F3 to F2 for you? Were they much different?
[20:07.340 -> 20:10.720] It was obviously very different.
[20:10.720 -> 20:17.120] Unfortunately for me it was very different because of my dad.
[20:17.120 -> 20:23.320] A bit the situation, the vibe and what I got used to all my life to have, I sort of didn't
[20:23.320 -> 20:24.320] have it.
[20:24.320 -> 20:26.640] So it was a very big thing for me
[20:26.640 -> 20:33.360] to get used to, like you know, I felt a bit alone and even though I knew there was a team behind and
[20:33.360 -> 20:37.920] there was people that were still pushing for me and they were all there, but still there was a very
[20:37.920 -> 20:47.360] big part of me that was missing inside of me. Yeah, how can I say, I can't say it was good or bad, it was just very different.
[20:48.240 -> 20:53.280] Obviously, the environment was, even though it was quite similar, it was still a different
[20:53.280 -> 20:59.360] championship, different things to learn and, you know, pit stops, different races,
[20:59.920 -> 21:05.080] just everything was very different. But still, I tried to focus on the main thing,
[21:05.080 -> 21:07.840] which was just the work and try to keep on working
[21:07.840 -> 21:10.440] and trying to do the best job as possible,
[21:10.440 -> 21:11.560] even with what I had.
[21:11.560 -> 21:15.640] And yes, well, I think still it was a very positive
[21:15.640 -> 21:17.120] and good season, even though, yeah,
[21:17.120 -> 21:19.740] maybe at the end of the championship
[21:19.740 -> 21:22.280] was not the result I wanted.
[21:22.280 -> 21:24.640] I'm pretty sure we could have done better.
[21:26.920 -> 21:34.820] But still, we had very good moments we had yeah like I said like good results if yeah if I'm
[21:34.820 -> 21:42.380] not wrong I still have the record of the first three races points lead like both
[21:42.380 -> 21:46.320] George and Charles and others yeah in three race weekends I
[21:46.320 -> 21:52.200] had the most points ever in F2. Let's go! Yeah I remember that but yeah I think F2
[21:52.200 -> 21:56.040] it was it was very hard it's very challenging to be honest the car itself
[21:56.040 -> 22:02.320] it's a very different and difficult car at least for me I I was struggling quite
[22:02.320 -> 22:08.940] a bit to understand how the car behaves because it was not fair like honestly suitable for my driving style and I was
[22:08.940 -> 22:13.900] sometimes you know a bit struggling how to find speed with this car so yeah was
[22:13.900 -> 22:18.420] was a big challenge. F3 was much more smooth and easy for me.
[22:18.420 -> 22:29.040] Well Fab actually wants to get into F4. I do. Do you think he's still old? I'm not sure, I don't know. It depends
[22:29.040 -> 22:34.200] how much prep he has and how much, you know. But he's never been in a go-kart and he's
[22:34.200 -> 22:39.560] 26. Yeah I have. At like a party once or twice. Yeah when I was a kid. So you never drove
[22:39.560 -> 22:43.880] a go-kart? I've driven a go-kart like 10 years ago, but I have the dream, I have the passion.
[22:43.880 -> 22:51.000] Alright I think you should start first working on the go-kart, getting used to the feeling of driving something actually on the road.
[22:51.000 -> 22:58.000] And then maybe at some point try the Formula 4. I mean, Formula 4 is not something super difficult.
[22:58.000 -> 23:02.000] I think you're still capable of doing it. It takes time.
[23:02.000 -> 23:04.000] This is everything I want to hear right now.
[23:04.000 -> 23:06.920] We love using all the want to hear on the
[23:06.920 -> 23:13.200] podcast to get in a seat yeah just make sure you're driving alone though I'm
[23:13.200 -> 23:22.080] gonna be race engineer fine you could be my teammate your teammate yeah I can be
[23:22.080 -> 23:27.680] your driver coach that helps they'll work work. alright deal, I'll driver coach you
[23:27.680 -> 23:30.960] we want to set up our own F4 team
[23:30.960 -> 23:34.480] F4 team? yeah. oh we got big goals?
[23:34.480 -> 23:38.000] we're shooting high. alright, ok, what's the name of it?
[23:38.000 -> 23:42.120] Pitstop. so Pitstop is going for a Pitstop right?
[23:42.120 -> 23:46.000] yeah So Pitstop is going for a Pitstop, right? Yeah, yeah. That's pretty much it.
[23:46.000 -> 23:48.000] Got my chance of shit now.
[23:48.000 -> 23:50.000] Yeah, we saw you in the garage at the last Grand Prix.
[23:50.000 -> 23:52.000] You know, you keep coming up on TV,
[23:52.000 -> 23:54.000] you're standing there with your headset on.
[23:54.000 -> 23:56.000] I wondered, like, over that weekend,
[23:56.000 -> 23:58.000] what are you taking in?
[23:58.000 -> 24:00.000] What information are you taking in whilst you're there?
[24:00.000 -> 24:02.000] Like, what are you doing over the weekend when you're there?
[24:02.000 -> 24:04.000] Well,
[24:04.000 -> 24:06.800] first of all, I'm mostly talking and chatting
[24:06.800 -> 24:08.480] and working with engineers.
[24:08.480 -> 24:12.680] So I'm sort of like a professional racing driver.
[24:12.680 -> 24:15.120] They always keep in touch with engineers and they work.
[24:15.120 -> 24:17.800] They have different people doing different stuff.
[24:17.800 -> 24:19.720] And I'm just there with them,
[24:19.720 -> 24:23.360] just listening to what they're talking about.
[24:23.360 -> 24:26.360] Obviously, sometimes we speak and we discuss some stuff,
[24:26.360 -> 24:33.160] I also help from my side from same experience to sort of give them some indications or some
[24:33.160 -> 24:38.600] help, obviously they know much more than I do in all the technical stuff with the car
[24:38.600 -> 24:43.960] and so I just try to sort of help from my side but at the same time also listen to what's
[24:43.960 -> 24:49.540] happening to learn like what they do in this situation, what's the plan in this, in another situation.
[24:49.540 -> 24:51.220] So yeah, it's just interesting.
[24:51.220 -> 24:56.700] I'm just being a part of a team and as a sort of like third driver who is unfortunately
[24:56.700 -> 25:01.960] at this stage not driving, but he is like an actual driver who is there with them and
[25:01.960 -> 25:03.300] like being a part of it.
[25:03.300 -> 25:08.360] So that's why whenever I'm with the headset I listen to what what the engineers talk about and
[25:08.360 -> 25:12.840] what they discuss with the driver and yeah like basically like being being
[25:12.840 -> 25:18.160] there next next to next to racing driver. Who are you closest with like not
[25:18.160 -> 25:21.240] in terms of other drivers but when you're at a race weekend who are you
[25:21.240 -> 25:27.600] like dealing with the most is it like your physio or your performance coach? Well, this year or last year?
[25:27.600 -> 25:29.440] I guess in F2 and F3.
[25:29.440 -> 25:30.880] Well, to be honest, it's hard to say.
[25:30.880 -> 25:34.280] I don't have a person which I dedicate the time the most
[25:34.280 -> 25:35.400] and then all the rest a little bit.
[25:35.400 -> 25:37.120] No, I think it's all quite equal.
[25:37.120 -> 25:40.080] I have the engineers, obviously, that I speak with.
[25:40.080 -> 25:42.400] I have my physio.
[25:42.400 -> 25:44.600] I have some, I don't know, my friends,
[25:44.600 -> 25:46.800] the people who I work with, who are like my friends,
[25:46.800 -> 25:49.080] who I can talk to, it's quite equal.
[25:49.080 -> 25:51.080] I try to make it quite, you know, equal.
[25:51.080 -> 25:54.520] Don't focus just on some one person and that's it.
[25:54.520 -> 25:55.440] Yeah.
[25:55.440 -> 25:58.520] But yeah, and if one as well, like whenever I work,
[25:58.520 -> 26:00.640] I always talk with a lot of people
[26:00.640 -> 26:02.440] and we discuss some stuff because, you know,
[26:02.440 -> 26:07.120] everybody has some information and some new stuff to give. What have your friends from
[26:07.120 -> 26:10.200] home been saying about the fact that you're gonna be driving in Austin FP1
[26:10.200 -> 26:14.100] in this season? Does everyone get really excited? Yes, there was actually yes yes
[26:14.100 -> 26:18.000] there was people like really calling me and saying yeah congratulations, finally
[26:18.000 -> 26:22.960] I was like yeah well calm it down all right. I've made it, I've made it. Yeah well I made it
[26:22.960 -> 26:25.480] yeah but I'm looking at more like calm it down, there is still
[26:25.480 -> 26:29.920] a way to go and we still need to do the good job, so too early for congratulations, come
[26:29.920 -> 26:35.320] on, thanks for it anyways that you say it, but I still, like, it's still not done, so
[26:35.320 -> 26:41.000] yeah, let's just, I try to focus on what I have to do, on my work and let's see what's
[26:41.000 -> 26:42.000] gonna happen.
[26:42.000 -> 26:43.000] What helmet will you be wearing?
[26:43.000 -> 26:44.000] Helmet?
[26:44.000 -> 26:45.200] Yeah, so have you got a helmet design that you'll wear for that? Yeah. And what's what's gonna happen. What helmet will you be wearing?
[26:45.200 -> 26:49.040] So have you got a helmet design that you're wear for that? Yeah. And what's on your helmet?
[26:49.040 -> 26:53.000] How do you design it? I think I'm gonna wear my normal helmet so my like
[26:53.000 -> 26:58.120] Ferrari my design helmet I don't think we're gonna do a special edition for
[26:58.120 -> 27:06.000] Austin I don't think so. You should put the pit Stop logo on it. May have a few branding issues there but it's worth a try.
[27:06.000 -> 27:08.000] Right on the top.
[27:08.000 -> 27:10.000] If you don't ask you don't get it.
[27:10.000 -> 27:12.000] Well that's it.
[27:12.000 -> 27:16.000] I'm not going to lie Jake, I would absolutely love to see that Pit Stop logo on his helmet.
[27:16.000 -> 27:18.000] I don't know if we're going to be able to make it happen but we can hope.
[27:18.000 -> 27:20.000] We can hope, we can hope.
[27:20.000 -> 27:22.000] Guys, really hope you've enjoyed part one.
[27:22.000 -> 27:24.000] I need to shoot off because I'm going to a wedding.
[27:24.000 -> 27:27.280] Ooh, Fabs is going to a... is it your wedding? No it's not, it's my sister's wedding.
[27:27.280 -> 27:31.160] We're filming this and uploading it on Saturday as a bonus episode we hope you
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[27:46.440 -> 27:49.720] Part two's got a bunch of exclusives and sneaky stories.
[27:49.720 -> 27:50.560] Oh yeah, you've got to listen to part two.
[27:50.560 -> 27:51.380] It's a big one.
[27:51.380 -> 27:53.000] Guys, make sure you tune in to part two,
[27:53.000 -> 27:54.780] but for now, au revoir.
[27:54.780 -> 27:56.120] Robert, you're an absolute legend.
[27:56.120 -> 27:58.680] Ferrari, thank you so much, and see you in part two.
[27:58.680 -> 28:03.680] ♪ Hey, yo ♪
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