Race week chat, F1 legends & Nyck de Vries?

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**Episode Overview:**

- This episode of the "Pistol Pocket" podcast, hosted by Jake Boys and Fabio Bocca, begins with an apology for not fulfilling listener requests in previous episodes.


- Fab mentions reaching out to SAS Who Dares Wins star Ollie Ollerton, a new Formula 1 fan, resulting in an upcoming SAS course participation for the hosts.


- The discussion shifts to the upcoming Baku Grand Prix, known for its tight track and potential for crashes.


- Fab shares his belief that the race won't have many major crashes due to the track's width and the drivers' tendency to make moves on the straights.


- Jake highlights the recent nickname given to Mick Schumacher, "the crash kid," due to his crashes at Monaco.


- Both hosts express their support for Schumacher and their belief in his potential, hoping that a strong performance will boost his confidence.


- The conversation moves to Romain Grosjean's crash in IndyCar, with both hosts expressing concern and relief that he is okay.


- They emphasize the inherent risk in motorsports and the importance of safety while acknowledging that the thrill of the sport comes from pushing limits.


- Fab mentions meeting a fan at a recent show and teases a surprise for listeners, keeping the details a secret to maintain intrigue.


- The hosts discuss Daniel Ricciardo's crash in Monaco qualifying and the subsequent rumors of his potential move to McLaren.


- They speculate on the possibility of a driver swap between Ricciardo and Pierre Gasly, with Gasly moving to McLaren and Ricciardo to AlphaTauri.


- The conversation expands to include Fernando Alonso's future, with both hosts agreeing that he is likely to remain with Alpine.


- Fab introduces a new rumor involving Formula E champion Nick De Vries, who is a Mercedes reserve driver.


- They discuss the new F1 rule requiring teams to hand over their cars to rookie drivers for practice sessions, explaining why different drivers have been seen in various cars.


- The hosts speculate on the possibility of De Vries replacing Lewis Hamilton at Mercedes in the future, considering his connection to the team and his impressive performance in Formula E.


- They discuss the significance of Hamilton potentially winning an eighth world championship, mentioning a Puma advertisement in the Czech Republic that prematurely declared him an eight-time champion.


- The episode concludes with the hosts expressing their belief that Hamilton will come back strong next season and their curiosity about which retired driver they would like to see back on the track. **Episode Overview:**

The podcast episode delves into a hypothetical scenario of bringing back legendary Formula One drivers from the past to compete in today's cars. The hosts, Jake Boys and Fabio Bocca, engage in a lively discussion about which drivers would excel in modern Formula One and the challenges they might face.

**Key Points:**

* The hosts ponder the possibility of scanning a driver's qualities and creating a robot with their skills and abilities. While they acknowledge the technological advancements in recent years, they express skepticism about the feasibility of such a concept in the near future.

* They discuss the impact of technological advancements on the sport, highlighting how the increased grip and downforce in modern Formula One cars might affect the driving styles of past drivers. They speculate that drivers from previous eras might struggle to adapt to the current cars' characteristics.

* The hosts engage in a hypothetical debate about which driver from the past would be most successful in today's Formula One. They consider drivers like Ayrton Senna, Lewis Hamilton, and Lando Norris, acknowledging the challenges of comparing drivers from different eras.

* They express their admiration for Ayrton Senna's exceptional skills and suggest that he would be a formidable competitor in today's Formula One, potentially capable of winning championships in either a Ferrari or a Red Bull.

* The hosts propose a hypothetical scenario where former drivers are called upon to compete in a one-off race due to a COVID-19 outbreak affecting current drivers and reserve drivers. They imagine a grid filled with legendary drivers from the past, racing in modern Formula One cars.

* They discuss the possibility of organizing a charity event featuring retired drivers competing in current cars, highlighting the excitement and nostalgia such an event would generate among Formula One fans.

* The hosts conclude the episode by teasing their upcoming appearance in a SAS (Special Air Service) challenge, expressing their apprehension and excitement about the physically demanding experience. They encourage listeners to watch the YouTube video of the challenge when it is released.

**Overall Message:**

The podcast episode offers an entertaining and thought-provoking discussion about the hypothetical return of legendary Formula One drivers to compete in today's cars. The hosts engage in lively debates, showcasing their knowledge and passion for the sport while also acknowledging the challenges and complexities of comparing drivers from different eras.

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[01:07.000 -> 01:11.000] Welcome back to the Pistol Pocket!
[01:11.000 -> 01:12.000] Woo!
[01:12.000 -> 01:13.000] Episode 31!
[01:13.000 -> 01:16.000] The crowd are going wild today!
[01:16.000 -> 01:19.000] Episode 31, what an achievement!
[01:19.000 -> 01:21.000] What an achievement, 31!
[01:21.000 -> 01:25.000] And I thought 31 was a milestone.
[01:25.000 -> 01:34.200] I don't know whether anyone's actually listened to them all yet or whether people are listening
[01:34.200 -> 01:35.640] in order, I don't know.
[01:35.640 -> 01:38.800] I think people listen not live.
[01:38.800 -> 01:42.720] No, I don't think they do either because whenever anyone tags us in a screenshot, they're not
[01:42.720 -> 01:44.280] listening to this week's.
[01:44.280 -> 01:47.760] It'll be like months ago. but then maybe some people like that
[01:47.760 -> 01:52.480] it's nice because I watched like a couple of podcasts but I don't I haven't
[01:52.480 -> 01:55.720] been back and watched all of them since the beginning I just join in whenever I
[01:55.720 -> 01:59.920] want there's ones that I miss but it's okay because I still loyal fan yeah I
[01:59.920 -> 02:02.400] mean if there was a good race and someone wants to come back and get our
[02:02.400 -> 02:06.640] opinion on it maybe some people do that absolutely speaking of Speaking of good races, Baku's next week.
[02:06.640 -> 02:10.080] Yeah, apparently it's one of the best on the calendar according to those of you on TikTok.
[02:10.080 -> 02:12.640] Apparently so, yeah, that's what you said in the comment section.
[02:12.640 -> 02:17.120] It's got that really tight little bit of track that I always smack straight into the wall.
[02:17.120 -> 02:19.600] Where the yellow DHL barrier is on the game.
[02:19.600 -> 02:22.480] And then I can never make the corner after it or the corner after it.
[02:22.480 -> 02:23.360] Yep, me too.
[02:23.360 -> 02:26.960] So I cannot wait to see what happens there this weekend.
[02:26.960 -> 02:33.480] But before we do get into that, Fab, you've done something pretty silly.
[02:33.480 -> 02:35.520] Now Fab's sent a few emails.
[02:35.520 -> 02:36.520] We know Fab loves...
[02:36.520 -> 02:39.880] Well, who's heard of SAS Who Dares Wins?
[02:39.880 -> 02:43.080] I reckon quite a lot of you have probably heard of SAS Who Dares Wins.
[02:43.080 -> 02:44.640] SAS Who Dares Wins.
[02:44.640 -> 02:46.080] Ollie Ollerton, to be precise.
[02:46.080 -> 02:46.580] Yeah.
[02:47.040 -> 02:51.280] Fab's been emailing Ollie Ollerton because he's a new Formula 1 fan
[02:51.280 -> 02:53.280] and his son is into go-karting.
[02:54.160 -> 02:58.000] And now somehow Fab's signed us up to take part in an SAS course
[02:58.000 -> 03:00.400] and I have no idea why he's done that.
[03:00.400 -> 03:03.760] I'm a twig and I can run about 10 minutes and I'll be puffing.
[03:03.760 -> 03:07.580] Mate, it's called Breakpoint. It's run Oli Ollerton up at his house I think in
[03:07.580 -> 03:11.480] Shrewsbury you and me a go and we're gonna do a podcast with him which will
[03:11.480 -> 03:14.780] be probably be a bonus episode. Which will be yeah be a bonus bonus episode
[03:14.780 -> 03:17.280] and it'll be great as well because he's a new Formula One fan so it'll be really
[03:17.280 -> 03:20.240] cool to get his opinion and everything. There's lots to talk about not just well
[03:20.240 -> 03:23.840] yeah new Formula One fan I wonder how he got into it. Well exactly and his son's
[03:23.840 -> 03:26.560] doing go-karting so that'll be really interesting to learn about as well
[03:26.560 -> 03:31.520] and his experience in the SAS but we will say now this isn't an advert we just reached out to him
[03:31.520 -> 03:36.240] because Fab loves SAS and he was a new Formula One fan and now we're doing some crazy bloody course
[03:36.240 -> 03:39.760] so we're gonna upload that on our YouTube when it's out it's going to be chaos.
[03:39.760 -> 03:43.120] It's gonna be absolutely mad we were actually before like we even started the podcast we
[03:43.120 -> 03:45.360] would say to each other like should we just join the SAS?
[03:45.360 -> 03:46.200] Should we just sack all this?
[03:46.200 -> 03:48.280] No, no, that's like, you would say,
[03:48.280 -> 03:49.120] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[03:49.120 -> 03:49.940] You would say,
[03:49.940 -> 03:52.400] sack everything up, Jake, and join the SAS.
[03:52.400 -> 03:54.880] No, I think it's just, it'll be good, regimented.
[03:54.880 -> 03:55.720] You know what you're doing,
[03:55.720 -> 03:56.720] well, you don't know what you're doing every day,
[03:56.720 -> 03:58.840] but you're in that routine, do you know what I mean?
[03:58.840 -> 04:00.720] Bro, you can't even remember 20 drivers on a grid,
[04:00.720 -> 04:02.320] let alone SAS training.
[04:02.320 -> 04:04.760] Yeah, you have to destroy that house and that car.
[04:04.760 -> 04:05.800] It's like, what, what?
[04:05.800 -> 04:06.640] Yeah.
[04:06.640 -> 04:07.460] No idea.
[04:07.460 -> 04:08.640] What are we doing in today's podcast, Fab?
[04:08.640 -> 04:09.480] What are we talking about?
[04:09.480 -> 04:11.640] Well, I mean, that's why I brought up Baku,
[04:11.640 -> 04:14.040] because it's a very tight track, isn't it?
[04:14.040 -> 04:14.880] Like we just said.
[04:14.880 -> 04:17.560] Yeah, it's got lots of long open straights.
[04:17.560 -> 04:19.760] Yes, how many DRS zones to be precise?
[04:19.760 -> 04:20.880] I believe it's two.
[04:24.280 -> 04:28.320] Hang on. No, I think it could be three. It's three yes. Yeah just thinking
[04:28.320 -> 04:33.280] back to the game. Yeah our last episode. Yeah well look at that. Epicly fun. Do you think
[04:33.280 -> 04:38.280] there's gonna be a lot of crashes? No no no no I don't think it's one of them tracks.
[04:38.280 -> 04:42.040] I think it is quite wide. I think the only place you might see someone lose a wing or
[04:42.040 -> 04:45.600] go into the back of someone. Only in certain sections.
[04:45.600 -> 04:47.040] The straight is wide.
[04:47.040 -> 04:47.880] That's what I mean.
[04:47.880 -> 04:49.920] And I feel like people will make their moves there.
[04:49.920 -> 04:50.800] And that's what I think.
[04:50.800 -> 04:52.520] You won't see many big crash I don't think,
[04:52.520 -> 04:53.400] but I think if anything,
[04:53.400 -> 04:54.740] someone might go into the back of someone
[04:54.740 -> 04:56.840] if someone breaks too quick or.
[04:56.840 -> 04:58.360] I think that could happen quite a bit
[04:58.360 -> 05:00.720] because there is them really tight sections,
[05:00.720 -> 05:02.200] but it is meant to be one of the best.
[05:02.200 -> 05:03.320] I've never watched it live,
[05:03.320 -> 05:05.240] but every single comment on our TikTok about it has said that Baku is be one of the best, I've never watched it live, but every single comment on our TikTok about it
[05:05.240 -> 05:07.140] has said that Baku is like,
[05:07.140 -> 05:09.000] one of the best tracks on the calendar,
[05:09.000 -> 05:10.040] and one of the best races.
[05:10.040 -> 05:11.160] So I am really excited.
[05:11.160 -> 05:13.080] Yeah, I'm intrigued to see why people think that.
[05:13.080 -> 05:15.040] I mean, we've done it on the game and it's pretty fun.
[05:15.040 -> 05:15.880] I'd say probably the straights.
[05:15.880 -> 05:17.000] You beat my time on the game.
[05:17.000 -> 05:18.800] I know, the only time. Which is unheard of.
[05:18.800 -> 05:22.320] The only fastest lap I have on F1 2021,
[05:22.320 -> 05:24.480] I have just set on Baku.
[05:24.480 -> 05:26.880] I'm not telling you what it is because you'll be at home saying
[05:26.880 -> 05:33.280] Oh my god, that's slow. Yeah, I do that on like, you know nose cone camera doing 700 kilometers
[05:33.280 -> 05:39.200] We're on a remote though. ABS turned off. Yeah, we are why don't use any assist? Yeah, right
[05:39.640 -> 05:44.280] Yeah, well, no, I just I'm hoping the reason I asked is because I'm hoping there isn't gonna be any crashes
[05:44.280 -> 05:46.280] But I mean we saw what happened at Monaco.
[05:46.280 -> 05:51.120] There was a few scuffs, grazes, little bits here and there.
[05:51.120 -> 05:53.120] I mean, a lot of the drivers were saying
[05:53.120 -> 05:55.520] that the cars are too big for Monaco now.
[05:55.520 -> 05:57.280] Obviously, Baku is going to be bigger,
[05:57.280 -> 05:58.920] but trying to get a bigger car
[05:58.920 -> 06:00.680] around a tight track like that,
[06:00.680 -> 06:03.080] I think it's going to be different for the drivers this year.
[06:03.080 -> 06:04.380] So, I mean, who knows?
[06:04.380 -> 06:09.340] We saw Riccardo, Schumacher, Latifi,
[06:09.340 -> 06:10.400] who else crashed at Monaco?
[06:10.400 -> 06:11.920] There was a few, few bits involved.
[06:11.920 -> 06:13.480] Albon caught someone's wheel, I think.
[06:13.480 -> 06:15.000] Yeah, there's a few little nibs and nabs.
[06:15.000 -> 06:17.000] I wouldn't be surprised whether that does happen again.
[06:17.000 -> 06:17.840] And you are right.
[06:17.840 -> 06:20.200] There is a really, really tight bit
[06:20.200 -> 06:21.420] that catches me out every time.
[06:21.420 -> 06:22.840] So we just have to wait and see.
[06:22.840 -> 06:25.040] You know, Mick Schumacher's got a new nickname
[06:25.040 -> 06:25.880] in the paddock.
[06:25.880 -> 06:26.700] What?
[06:26.700 -> 06:29.600] He's actually being called the crash kid.
[06:29.600 -> 06:30.600] Why?
[06:30.600 -> 06:31.440] Well, because of after-
[06:31.440 -> 06:32.280] Well, because he's had two crashes.
[06:32.280 -> 06:34.120] Because of after what happened at Monaco.
[06:34.120 -> 06:35.680] Yeah, that's not very nice.
[06:35.680 -> 06:36.800] It's not very nice, is it?
[06:36.800 -> 06:39.040] No, we want Mick to be world champion.
[06:39.040 -> 06:41.000] But I, we've spoke about it many times.
[06:41.000 -> 06:42.920] Do you think he has it in him?
[06:42.920 -> 06:45.840] Mate, I love Mick so much,
[06:45.840 -> 06:47.920] and I want more than anything him to be the best driver
[06:47.920 -> 06:50.240] in the world, like I've said every time.
[06:50.240 -> 06:52.800] But it is really difficult to look at the scenario
[06:52.800 -> 06:56.080] when Magnus has come in and done well in that car.
[06:56.080 -> 07:00.120] Mick Schumacher, 29 races, zero points.
[07:00.120 -> 07:00.940] Yeah, I mean.
[07:00.940 -> 07:02.280] That's not even like, not even zero wins, zero points.
[07:02.280 -> 07:05.040] Yeah, but 20 odd of them were last season,
[07:05.040 -> 07:06.520] and they were in the worst car on the grid
[07:06.520 -> 07:07.640] that was never gonna get points.
[07:07.640 -> 07:10.280] So you can't, realistically, they're all void.
[07:10.280 -> 07:12.560] He's done what, six races, no points.
[07:12.560 -> 07:14.120] Cause this season the car's good enough.
[07:14.120 -> 07:16.200] He will get points this season.
[07:16.200 -> 07:18.240] Mick will get points this season.
[07:18.240 -> 07:21.320] Maybe he needs like that first, like, in,
[07:21.320 -> 07:23.240] and then he'll just be in there all the time.
[07:23.240 -> 07:25.840] He needs to know that you're gonna be getting a tattoo if he gets points.
[07:25.840 -> 07:28.720] Yeah I will be getting a tattoo of Mick Schumacher if he gets any points this season.
[07:28.720 -> 07:30.240] And then he will definitely try and win.
[07:30.240 -> 07:33.080] Yeah, okay well let's try and get this to Mick.
[07:33.080 -> 07:36.240] I would love to get a tattoo of Mick, I'd love more than anything him to do well but
[07:36.240 -> 07:40.320] I just think he knows how bad he needs it and I believe he'll get it.
[07:40.320 -> 07:43.720] But I do think it'll be one of those if he gets like his first points I reckon he'll
[07:43.720 -> 07:46.860] then follow up next week with a better finish and then like he might drop out a little bit
[07:46.860 -> 07:51.980] Then he'll like podium or yeah, like a little bit more confidence. Yeah, it's got to be confidence for Mick, I think
[07:52.820 -> 07:56.620] Yeah, that's fair enough. Well speaking of crashes Romain Grosjean had another crash yesterday
[07:57.020 -> 07:59.900] In IndyCar? Yesterday being Saturday. In IndyCar?
[07:59.900 -> 08:06.320] Mmm, I saw a clip of Romain Grosjean doing this mad overtake at IndyCar that couple I don't understand IndyCar man
[08:06.320 -> 08:07.280] What is it?
[08:07.280 -> 08:09.440] Well, they're just like and they really quit
[08:09.440 -> 08:13.100] They're sort of like Formula One cars is just I guess not as much budget or not as much
[08:13.120 -> 08:18.280] They're like weird. They look a bit like the car from The Simpsons at home is futuristic car
[08:18.280 -> 08:22.760] They have like a plastic shield and then like a like a like a little heart above you
[08:22.760 -> 08:24.400] They're just weird-looking cars
[08:24.400 -> 08:26.120] They don't look like Formula One cars.
[08:26.120 -> 08:28.060] But I know Roman Grosjean went and did it.
[08:28.060 -> 08:29.720] Yeah, and he had a crash in qualifying.
[08:29.720 -> 08:30.740] Is he all right?
[08:30.740 -> 08:32.200] Yeah, he's sound, I think he's okay.
[08:32.200 -> 08:33.160] Just a little one.
[08:33.160 -> 08:35.000] But like after that crash that he had,
[08:35.000 -> 08:36.320] obviously the first thing that goes through
[08:36.320 -> 08:38.680] everyone's minds now is like, oh shit.
[08:38.680 -> 08:39.520] Yeah.
[08:39.520 -> 08:40.360] Is he gonna be all right?
[08:40.360 -> 08:41.480] You never wanna see anyone crash really,
[08:41.480 -> 08:42.300] but at the end of the day,
[08:42.300 -> 08:44.960] this is one of the reason this motorsport
[08:44.960 -> 08:47.360] is as big as it is is is because there is risk.
[08:47.360 -> 08:53.760] Yeah. I mean if it was constantly safe and no no one would see anyone get hurt
[08:53.760 -> 08:58.280] but if there was no risk of like extreme accidents or anything like that I mean
[08:58.280 -> 09:01.560] you'd completely lose what it is right because the reason it's so crazy is
[09:01.560 -> 09:08.160] because they're pushing to the limit at 200 miles an hour if you took that away completely
[09:08.160 -> 09:12.000] mate if this mic falls down anymore I'm gonna go berserk. Fab's having a mic issue
[09:12.000 -> 09:17.440] Fab's been away this weekend he was in Ireland he met a lovely fan at the
[09:17.440 -> 09:23.560] ferry port. Yeah tell them about the fan you met. So Fab was playing a show this
[09:23.560 -> 09:25.800] weekend he's actually got one coming up in London
[09:25.800 -> 09:30.520] very soon so if you do live in London, check that out, that'll be on socials very soon.
[09:30.520 -> 09:32.520] That'll be great if you guys came.
[09:32.520 -> 09:35.920] Fab, so Fab's hosting today's episode and we're about 8 minutes in and he still hasn't
[09:35.920 -> 09:40.040] told you what we're talking about in today's episode so I'll host it next week but...
[09:40.040 -> 09:42.040] I don't like to hear it, I don't like to hear it.
[09:42.040 -> 09:43.040] They won't be able to hear you Fab.
[09:43.040 -> 09:44.040] As they get through the box.
[09:44.040 -> 09:45.360] You've got to come back to the mic. They'll hear me, they'll hear me. Oh what, you've got a surprise for us have you? Surprise! No I haven't got, give old people surprises. They won't be able to hear you Fab. As they get through the pod. You've got to come back to the mic.
[09:45.360 -> 09:46.360] They'll hear me, they'll hear me.
[09:46.360 -> 09:48.360] Oh what, you've got a surprise for us have you?
[09:48.360 -> 09:49.360] Surprise!
[09:49.360 -> 09:50.760] No I haven't got, I want it to be a surprise.
[09:50.760 -> 09:53.560] I don't want people to know what this pod's gonna, this is like a journey guys.
[09:53.560 -> 09:56.760] I want you to just roll with it and not have a clue.
[09:56.760 -> 09:58.240] Not have a clue what's going on.
[09:58.240 -> 10:02.840] Yeah, speaking of crashes, again, Riccardo, crash, Monaco.
[10:02.840 -> 10:06.320] Not the greatest thing, obviously last pod we spoke about everything that was said. It was only in qualifying. Yeah, Crash, Monaco. Not the greatest thing. Obviously, last pod, we spoke about everything
[10:06.320 -> 10:07.160] that was said.
[10:07.160 -> 10:08.400] It was only in qualifying.
[10:08.400 -> 10:09.960] Yeah, but it's still-
[10:09.960 -> 10:11.560] He still got out.
[10:11.560 -> 10:12.960] But it's still not great, man.
[10:12.960 -> 10:15.040] And now there's chitter-chatter.
[10:15.040 -> 10:17.520] There's birds tweeting about Gasly
[10:17.520 -> 10:19.520] possibly going to McLaren.
[10:19.520 -> 10:24.000] Yeah, I think I was so shocked when,
[10:24.000 -> 10:25.480] what's the Mercedes guys,
[10:25.480 -> 10:27.680] what's the McLaren guy called?
[10:27.680 -> 10:28.520] Zach.
[10:28.520 -> 10:29.340] Zach Brown.
[10:29.340 -> 10:30.280] Yeah, when he came out and said,
[10:30.280 -> 10:31.280] we spoke about it last week,
[10:31.280 -> 10:33.280] but when he came out and said them comments on Ricciardo,
[10:33.280 -> 10:35.920] you said that it's cutthroat and he's being honest.
[10:35.920 -> 10:37.120] And I do agree he's being honest,
[10:37.120 -> 10:38.360] but you shouldn't say it.
[10:38.360 -> 10:40.560] It's pretty nasty, but.
[10:40.560 -> 10:43.200] Yeah, now he said it and all this stuff's coming out
[10:43.200 -> 10:45.780] about maybe Gasly to McLaren and that, I start to think like, maybe he knows it and all this stuff's coming out about maybe Gasly to McLaren and that I start to think
[10:45.780 -> 10:49.700] like maybe he knows it's happening and he's just like.
[10:49.700 -> 10:51.260] When do you see it happening?
[10:54.180 -> 10:56.380] It's a weird one because I'm still not a hundred percent
[10:56.380 -> 10:59.380] sure whether you can switch mid, mid, mid season.
[10:59.380 -> 11:01.060] But when you, when you, when you hear news,
[11:01.060 -> 11:03.140] when you hear a headline like that, you almost think like,
[11:03.140 -> 11:04.460] oh shit, it's going to happen like soon.
[11:04.460 -> 11:06.000] Like I don't know about you, but I do.
[11:06.000 -> 11:10.320] But I mean, Gasly's still got his contract with Red Bull until the end of 2023.
[11:10.320 -> 11:15.280] Yeah, I don't think it'll be a mid-season thing, but I think you could potentially see
[11:15.280 -> 11:18.880] Gasly at McLaren next year. And I think you could potentially see-
[11:18.880 -> 11:19.360] Next year?
[11:20.400 -> 11:25.280] Yeah, and I think you might see Ricciardo at AlphaTauri. I still think Ricciardo's got it in him.
[11:25.280 -> 11:26.880] What, you think they could do a straight swap?
[11:26.880 -> 11:35.520] I... yeah. Probably. I mean, I don't know. I do think Gasly and Lando would be good teammates. I do.
[11:35.520 -> 11:42.880] I don't know about that. Like, the initial thought is yeah, but I feel like Lando is really in the competition this year.
[11:42.880 -> 11:45.700] Like, not just how he's performing, but mentally.
[11:45.700 -> 11:48.220] Yeah, but he's nowhere near the competition points wise
[11:48.220 -> 11:49.620] and the car's nowhere near good enough.
[11:49.620 -> 11:50.540] The car's not good enough,
[11:50.540 -> 11:53.220] but in terms of headspace he is.
[11:53.220 -> 11:54.060] Yeah, oh God yeah, he wants to.
[11:54.060 -> 11:56.580] I think Lando's got the minerals to just,
[11:56.580 -> 11:57.420] do you know what I mean?
[11:57.420 -> 11:59.060] I don't, I just don't think.
[11:59.060 -> 12:00.460] How about this?
[12:00.460 -> 12:03.020] All right, Lewis Hamilton drops out,
[12:03.020 -> 12:10.960] Lando to Mercedes with Russell. Mate, he's just signed a massive deal. Yeah, and then yeah, let's fuck with that and then you've got
[12:11.760 -> 12:14.680] Gasly at McLaren with Fernando Alonso
[12:15.440 -> 12:19.040] God's sake good people are gonna get so bored of this without a loser Jack
[12:19.480 -> 12:22.720] Every single comment says he's not gonna join McLaren
[12:22.720 -> 12:26.000] I'm gonna join a name these people don't know what they're talking about.
[12:26.000 -> 12:28.000] I'm gonna be clipping you now, man.
[12:28.000 -> 12:29.000] Mate, Alonso-
[12:29.000 -> 12:32.000] Fernando Alonso is not gonna move teams. He'll be Alpine and out.
[12:32.000 -> 12:40.000] Alright, well if Lewis Hamilton then was to go and Lando didn't take his spot for some strange reason, I don't know why, but who-
[12:40.000 -> 12:42.000] Lando won't go to- it would be Ocon.
[12:42.000 -> 12:44.000] What, you think Ocon would replace Hamilton?
[12:44.000 -> 12:45.000] Yeah.
[12:45.000 -> 12:48.000] Do you know there's rumours of someone else?
[12:48.000 -> 12:49.000] Who?
[12:49.000 -> 12:51.000] Formula E driver, Nick De Vries.
[12:51.000 -> 12:52.000] I don't know if I've said that right.
[12:52.000 -> 12:53.000] Yes, yes.
[12:53.000 -> 12:54.000] Have you heard these rumours?
[12:54.000 -> 12:55.000] Yes, I've heard who that is.
[12:55.000 -> 12:57.000] Yeah, well a Formula E champion.
[12:57.000 -> 12:59.000] What, it's been rumoured to replace Hamilton?
[12:59.000 -> 13:00.000] When?
[13:00.000 -> 13:02.000] When his contract runs out at the end of...
[13:02.000 -> 13:03.000] Is it 2023 it runs out?
[13:03.000 -> 13:04.000] Probably, yeah.
[13:04.000 -> 13:09.080] It's not the end of this year, is it? I don't think it's very good this year. Oh, yeah, Nick DeVries of Deveree's. I've heard about him
[13:09.080 -> 13:13.200] I've never seen him race Nick with the why she thought he was in Formula two. He's a Formula E
[13:13.200 -> 13:18.680] He's the reigning Formula E champion. Well, and it gets deeper than that. Go on. Well, cut me cut me
[13:19.520 -> 13:25.040] Well, he drives for Mercedes. Yeah E. So connection there already.
[13:25.040 -> 13:26.200] What's the connection?
[13:28.120 -> 13:30.400] He drives for Mercedes in Formula E.
[13:30.400 -> 13:31.600] Yeah.
[13:31.600 -> 13:33.840] What's the connection with Hamilton?
[13:33.840 -> 13:34.680] Mercedes.
[13:36.120 -> 13:36.960] Got it.
[13:36.960 -> 13:38.040] Yeah, yeah.
[13:38.040 -> 13:38.880] Got it.
[13:38.880 -> 13:39.700] All right then.
[13:39.700 -> 13:40.540] It's got in now.
[13:40.540 -> 13:41.380] It's like what other connection?
[13:41.380 -> 13:42.200] Oh yeah.
[13:42.200 -> 13:43.960] So he's never actually raced in Formula One.
[13:43.960 -> 13:47.360] Now this is where shit. Oh, there's Now, this is where shit gets freaking crazy.
[13:47.360 -> 13:49.920] Maybe not for everyone else, but for you and me.
[13:49.920 -> 13:51.560] Do you remember when we were watching the Spanish Grand Prix
[13:51.560 -> 13:53.260] and we saw a couple of like random drivers
[13:53.260 -> 13:54.360] on free practice and we were like,
[13:54.360 -> 13:55.920] what the hell is that all about?
[13:55.920 -> 13:56.760] Yeah.
[13:56.760 -> 13:59.360] Well, it turns out that new rules,
[13:59.360 -> 14:00.960] see now listeners probably know this already,
[14:00.960 -> 14:02.440] but this just hit me like a ton of bricks
[14:02.440 -> 14:04.880] when I read this like five minutes before this podcast,
[14:04.880 -> 14:07.880] really unorganized it is a new
[14:07.880 -> 14:13.680] f1 rule as of 2022 which requires teams to hand over their cars to take a rookie
[14:13.680 -> 14:17.960] driver for a maximum of two GP appearances during at least two practice
[14:17.960 -> 14:21.280] sessions oh is that why they did it yes because I
[14:21.280 -> 14:25.040] wonder why there was loads of different was was debris's out then then he was in the Williams
[14:25.520 -> 14:30.560] No, and was he really yeah, and he was put in better lap times
[14:31.240 -> 14:32.920] than TV
[14:32.920 -> 14:37.000] Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised with re replaced Latifi. He was doing better than a TV
[14:37.000 -> 14:41.180] I'd struggle to see him going straight in because I feel like they use Williams as the Academy
[14:41.440 -> 14:45.680] Well, he is also a reserve driver. I didn't know that. He's the
[14:45.680 -> 14:49.600] official test driver for Mercedes and also a reserve driver. I did wonder why there was
[14:49.600 -> 14:53.600] like random drivers out there. But that makes sense now. But it all makes sense, I mean
[14:53.600 -> 14:56.960] everything's like working its way into each other. So he drives for Mercedes, a Formula
[14:56.960 -> 15:01.760] E, he's a reserve driver, a test driver, he's still kind of relatively young, I think he's
[15:01.760 -> 15:05.080] in his like mid to late 20s. So why didn't Mercedes pick him then?
[15:05.080 -> 15:09.560] If Mercedes needs to get two reserve drivers out as well, why did he go out in the Williams?
[15:09.560 -> 15:11.120] Because Williams is like the...
[15:11.120 -> 15:14.800] Yeah, but you know what I'm saying, if he's rumoured to go to Mercedes, why didn't he
[15:14.800 -> 15:17.680] go out as Williams is?
[15:17.680 -> 15:21.320] Maybe Mercedes just felt like they wanted both their drivers for Mercedes in a practice
[15:21.320 -> 15:22.320] session.
[15:22.320 -> 15:23.320] I wonder who they're going to bring though.
[15:23.320 -> 15:26.200] I wonder who Mercedes will bring up, Because if they have to do two.
[15:26.200 -> 15:27.200] Yeah, I don't know.
[15:27.200 -> 15:28.600] It'd be interesting to see if one...
[15:28.600 -> 15:29.480] So that's what it is.
[15:29.480 -> 15:30.880] If you're watching at home and you didn't understand,
[15:30.880 -> 15:32.080] I didn't know that either.
[15:32.080 -> 15:35.400] If in FP1, you ever see a different driver for a team,
[15:35.400 -> 15:38.200] every team is obliged to have to use
[15:38.200 -> 15:40.360] two reserve drivers at some point.
[15:40.360 -> 15:42.160] Twice a year, at least.
[15:42.160 -> 15:44.440] Oh, it'd be interesting to see when we get the next one then.
[15:44.440 -> 15:45.520] They obviously do it... Oh no, it's for a we get the next one then they obviously do it for a
[15:45.520 -> 15:47.800] maximum of two GP appearances they must
[15:47.800 -> 15:49.240] do it the tracks that the drivers feel
[15:49.240 -> 15:50.920] the most confident at yes they wouldn't
[15:50.920 -> 15:52.560] need the practice time I guess the main
[15:52.560 -> 15:54.240] drivers probably owners is a great
[15:54.240 -> 15:56.480] track everyone yeah however we've made
[15:56.480 -> 15:58.120] drivers went off span out everyone
[15:58.120 -> 15:59.320] struggled on that one corner man
[15:59.320 -> 16:00.400] everyone could have done with more
[16:00.400 -> 16:02.240] practice in Barcelona it's true it's
[16:02.240 -> 16:04.080] true but yeah I mean I just can't
[16:04.080 -> 16:06.480] believe he was outpacing the TV, that's pretty crazy.
[16:06.480 -> 16:08.120] Yeah, I mean.
[16:08.120 -> 16:11.240] But then Formula E, it's still Formula.
[16:11.240 -> 16:13.280] Like it's not a completely different car.
[16:13.280 -> 16:15.280] But how much, what's the speed difference?
[16:15.280 -> 16:16.440] I really don't know.
[16:16.440 -> 16:19.360] I think the Formula E cars have better acceleration,
[16:19.360 -> 16:21.560] but just less top speed, I assume.
[16:21.560 -> 16:23.800] I only think that because the electric cars
[16:23.800 -> 16:25.100] and GTA are really quick.
[16:25.100 -> 16:27.800] We are gonna know a little bit more about Formula E soon
[16:27.800 -> 16:30.040] because there's actually near outside our flat.
[16:30.040 -> 16:31.240] Like they do it around the Excel.
[16:31.240 -> 16:32.400] Did we say this last time?
[16:32.400 -> 16:33.240] I don't know if we did or not.
[16:33.240 -> 16:34.520] I think we have already told them, yeah.
[16:34.520 -> 16:35.600] We probably told them a million times.
[16:35.600 -> 16:37.160] Yeah, we probably repeat ourselves
[16:37.160 -> 16:38.440] about every single episode.
[16:38.440 -> 16:40.080] I don't even know why people are still listening.
[16:40.080 -> 16:41.640] No, me neither, but we're scrolling.
[16:41.640 -> 16:43.960] So, hey guys, hey new fans.
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[17:19.880 -> 17:23.160] but yeah going back to Nick and everything like that they're essentially
[17:23.160 -> 17:25.600] calling him Toto's insurance policy.
[17:25.600 -> 17:27.400] Because if Lewis Hamilton was to leave
[17:27.400 -> 17:29.900] at the end of his, I was gonna say tenancy,
[17:29.900 -> 17:32.760] but at the end of his contract,
[17:32.760 -> 17:34.680] because Toto's been stung before.
[17:34.680 -> 17:39.040] Obviously he had Hamilton and Rosberg,
[17:39.040 -> 17:42.840] and Rosberg, once he won that title back in 2016,
[17:42.840 -> 17:46.680] it was a last minute thing for him to just leave and retire.
[17:46.680 -> 17:48.240] Like they didn't know it was gonna happen.
[17:48.240 -> 17:49.400] So I think at that time,
[17:49.400 -> 17:51.480] even though this is before we were watching it,
[17:51.480 -> 17:53.440] at that time, Toto was sort of hung,
[17:53.440 -> 17:55.840] like, oh shit, well now I haven't got another driver.
[17:55.840 -> 17:58.920] I think Toto's prepped quite well with Ocon as well.
[17:58.920 -> 18:01.120] There's gotta be something between Ocon and Mercedes.
[18:01.120 -> 18:02.440] What's the relationship there then?
[18:02.440 -> 18:03.280] Explain to me.
[18:03.280 -> 18:04.440] Well Toto is Ocon's manager.
[18:04.440 -> 18:05.960] Oh yes, you said this. So there has to be something between Ocon and Mercedes. What's the relationship there then? Well Toto is Ocon's manager. Oh yes, you said this.
[18:05.960 -> 18:08.320] So there has to be something between Ocon and Mercedes
[18:08.320 -> 18:10.960] and Ocon is also a Mercedes Reserve driver,
[18:12.200 -> 18:14.000] even though he's at Alpine.
[18:14.000 -> 18:14.840] Okay.
[18:14.840 -> 18:16.120] So there could definitely be something.
[18:16.120 -> 18:17.720] You know what?
[18:17.720 -> 18:19.560] The Mercedes is looking better every week
[18:19.560 -> 18:21.800] and I still strongly believe Lewis Hamill
[18:21.800 -> 18:24.480] will win a race this season, maybe multiple podiums.
[18:24.480 -> 18:27.500] So he could be a long way off stopping yet.
[18:27.500 -> 18:32.760] I mean, this is a world champion that wants to beat the record of seven.
[18:32.760 -> 18:36.560] I'm sure he's not just going to go at the end of the season off his own choice, I'm
[18:36.560 -> 18:37.560] going to quit.
[18:37.560 -> 18:41.080] Because the Mercedes could come back, look how good of a constructor they are.
[18:41.080 -> 18:44.440] They could come back next season and just be unreal when he wins eighth and he's no
[18:44.440 -> 18:50.120] doubt the best driver ever. Yeah, if you're that close to something and you've worked all that time for it
[18:50.120 -> 18:54.820] I doubt you're just gonna randomly off your own back go. I'm done and let's be fair
[18:54.820 -> 18:58.200] Yeah, they can use Mercedes could use this year as like fuel, right?
[18:58.200 -> 19:02.520] So they look at like everything they've done to the car and they can make us like a solid decision
[19:02.520 -> 19:08.200] What's worked well up until this year and what doesn't work, has not worked well this year. And then so maybe the
[19:08.200 -> 19:11.480] next car will be unbelievable just because they know what to do and what not to do.
[19:11.480 -> 19:14.720] Maybe the reason you're seeing Russell finish higher than Hamilton every year is
[19:14.720 -> 19:18.920] because the two separate teams, their cars are different, maybe Russell's car is
[19:18.920 -> 19:24.160] being changed and adapted to be amazing this year within the points whilst
[19:24.160 -> 19:27.600] everything they're doing on Hamilton's is actually them planning ahead.
[19:27.600 -> 19:29.280] They're already pre-planning for next year.
[19:29.280 -> 19:32.880] Well, that's it, mate. So I didn't know this, but like Hamilton has actually already put in
[19:32.880 -> 19:36.560] things like to the team that he's already said, like, I don't want this on the car next year.
[19:36.560 -> 19:39.920] Yeah, well, that's maybe they are, because maybe they knew that this season they couldn't get near
[19:39.920 -> 19:44.800] Red Bull Ferrari. So Hamilton's using this year to get used to next year's car. Like maybe the
[19:44.800 -> 19:46.200] Mercedes car Hamilton's in
[19:46.200 -> 19:47.680] cause it's not going to be that many changes
[19:47.680 -> 19:48.880] between now and next year.
[19:48.880 -> 19:51.040] No, but maybe he's adapting a car
[19:51.040 -> 19:52.600] that next year is going to be better.
[19:52.600 -> 19:53.800] It could be monstrous.
[19:53.800 -> 19:54.640] That's what I mean.
[19:54.640 -> 19:56.800] This is a mind game, man.
[19:56.800 -> 19:58.440] This is one of the richest sports in the world
[19:58.440 -> 20:02.180] with the best engineers, best everything in the world.
[20:02.180 -> 20:03.880] They plan so far ahead.
[20:03.880 -> 20:06.680] We only know what we see and what we see on Drivers' Live
[20:06.680 -> 20:07.520] and TV.
[20:07.520 -> 20:08.340] Yeah, they must have a whole other,
[20:08.340 -> 20:10.320] like a smaller team just like looking forward to next year.
[20:10.320 -> 20:11.280] Yeah, God yeah.
[20:11.280 -> 20:13.480] Back in the factory, they'll be all over it.
[20:13.480 -> 20:14.540] Like maybe they are doing that.
[20:14.540 -> 20:16.720] Maybe they're prepping for Hamill next year to get his eighth.
[20:16.720 -> 20:19.680] But I just didn't know drivers ever had anything to do
[20:19.680 -> 20:22.000] with the say of like what goes into the car and stuff.
[20:22.000 -> 20:24.140] Well, Niki Lauda was one of the first drivers
[20:24.140 -> 20:25.640] to ever start that, wasn't he?
[20:25.640 -> 20:26.480] Was he?
[20:26.480 -> 20:27.300] Do you remember from the movie
[20:27.300 -> 20:28.920] when he went up to that team and he was like,
[20:28.920 -> 20:29.800] let me drive for it.
[20:29.800 -> 20:31.040] It was Ferrari, wasn't it?
[20:31.040 -> 20:33.080] It was like, let me drive for Ferrari
[20:33.080 -> 20:35.240] and I will do this to the car.
[20:35.240 -> 20:36.960] He was like a car genius.
[20:36.960 -> 20:38.000] And then he won everything
[20:38.000 -> 20:39.960] because they were changing his car.
[20:39.960 -> 20:41.200] And then I'm pretty sure his teammate
[20:41.200 -> 20:42.480] wanted the same bits in his car
[20:42.480 -> 20:43.920] and he wouldn't give it to him.
[20:43.920 -> 20:45.960] And Niki Lauda was like one of the first drivers
[20:45.960 -> 20:48.440] that come in and were like really changed.
[20:48.440 -> 20:49.920] I'm sure drivers have always been involved,
[20:49.920 -> 20:51.920] but Niki Lauda from that movie, I remember.
[20:51.920 -> 20:52.760] Do you know what?
[20:52.760 -> 20:53.820] I need to watch Senna, by the way.
[20:53.820 -> 20:54.800] Yeah, I've never seen that.
[20:54.800 -> 20:56.980] Yeah, I can't believe that we're sat here saying this
[20:56.980 -> 20:58.880] after being into the F1 for this long now.
[20:58.880 -> 20:59.920] What, this long?
[20:59.920 -> 21:00.760] But do you know what I'm saying?
[21:00.760 -> 21:01.580] Yeah.
[21:01.580 -> 21:03.560] We watched the Niki Lauda and James Hunt film,
[21:03.560 -> 21:05.200] but we need to watch the Senna film. Yeah, we do need to sit and watch all the films. We've seen stuff. Let and James Hunt film, but we need to watch the Senna film.
[21:05.200 -> 21:07.040] Yeah, we do need to sit and watch all the films.
[21:07.040 -> 21:07.880] We've seen stuff.
[21:07.880 -> 21:08.700] Let's watch it tonight.
[21:08.700 -> 21:09.920] Yeah, we could watch the Senna film tonight.
[21:09.920 -> 21:11.160] Then we could talk about it on Thursday.
[21:11.160 -> 21:13.980] And if you listen to it right now and watched it either,
[21:13.980 -> 21:16.600] try and listen to this, watch the Senna film
[21:16.600 -> 21:17.480] before Thursday.
[21:17.480 -> 21:19.000] And then when we come back, we'll have a chat about it.
[21:19.000 -> 21:20.340] Cause that could be a good idea.
[21:20.340 -> 21:22.160] Yeah, that'd be really good.
[21:22.160 -> 21:23.200] Yeah, I have no idea about it,
[21:23.200 -> 21:24.960] but I know Senna was without a doubt
[21:24.960 -> 21:29.120] one of the best drivers ever. I've seen so many clips undoubtedly so many clips
[21:29.120 -> 21:31.120] I've seen round corners man
[21:31.120 -> 21:35.500] Absolutely ridiculous. Do you know what's funny though? You just said it then like brushed over it
[21:35.500 -> 21:39.840] But you just mentioned Lewis getting his eighth title. Hmm. Just know it's quite funny
[21:40.400 -> 21:43.200] So I just read this online. There's a apparently there's a store
[21:43.200 -> 21:48.640] Yeah in the Czech Republic with a puma advert in the window and on the Puma advert it's like
[21:48.640 -> 21:51.760] a photo of Lewis Hamilton just like a promo for Lewis Hamilton and it says
[21:51.760 -> 21:54.160] Lewis Hamilton eight-time as world champion on it.
[21:54.160 -> 21:59.420] Really? Yeah and like there's this whole debate like it was it just a typo or is
[21:59.420 -> 22:03.220] this Puma being like still salty about what happened last year?
[22:03.220 -> 22:05.680] Where is it? In the Czech Republic.
[22:05.680 -> 22:08.840] Yeah, it's probably not their biggest hotspot,
[22:08.840 -> 22:10.720] brand wise, they probably just got sent
[22:10.720 -> 22:13.680] a load of marketing shit and haven't been re-sent anymore.
[22:13.680 -> 22:15.520] I mean, also he is sponsored.
[22:15.520 -> 22:16.360] That was probably a post that was made last year.
[22:16.360 -> 22:17.480] That's what I mean, yeah.
[22:17.480 -> 22:19.040] I mean, he is sponsored by Puma.
[22:19.040 -> 22:20.440] So maybe it is them being like,
[22:20.440 -> 22:22.040] look, he was rubbed last year.
[22:22.040 -> 22:23.240] But that's pretty funny if it is.
[22:23.240 -> 22:25.800] Yeah, or maybe they know something we don't mate.
[22:25.800 -> 22:28.440] And maybe Lewis Hamilton definitely wins next year.
[22:28.440 -> 22:30.240] But the only way-
[22:30.240 -> 22:31.080] It's all a fix.
[22:31.080 -> 22:31.900] Yeah.
[22:31.900 -> 22:33.500] All of F1 is a fix.
[22:33.500 -> 22:34.960] Imagine that, it's never.
[22:34.960 -> 22:36.360] But I do think next year,
[22:36.360 -> 22:38.200] Hamilton will come back really strong.
[22:39.120 -> 22:40.800] I only think that after saying,
[22:40.800 -> 22:42.280] because I kept saying for so long,
[22:42.280 -> 22:44.400] Hamilton might retire, he might go end of season.
[22:44.400 -> 22:45.900] Then I really thought about it.
[22:46.960 -> 22:49.400] And I just was like, nah, I don't see it happening.
[22:49.400 -> 22:51.160] Not anymore.
[22:51.160 -> 22:52.080] I think they wouldn't have,
[22:52.080 -> 22:53.560] I think that's why they brought Russell in,
[22:53.560 -> 22:56.360] solely just for this season to like get through,
[22:56.360 -> 22:59.520] let Russell learn, let him learn in the new car
[22:59.520 -> 23:01.600] and get Hamill in the car ready for next year.
[23:01.600 -> 23:03.960] Maybe next year, Hamill is just.
[23:03.960 -> 23:05.320] If there's any driver that you'd love to see
[23:05.320 -> 23:07.000] back on the track, who's retired?
[23:07.000 -> 23:08.000] Who would you pick?
[23:09.520 -> 23:11.880] Who also you think could probably put in a good shift
[23:11.880 -> 23:13.960] and you can pick whatever team they go to?
[23:14.880 -> 23:15.920] Wow, great question.
[23:15.920 -> 23:16.760] I don't know any.
[23:16.760 -> 23:18.160] Alive or dead.
[23:18.160 -> 23:19.000] Alive or dead.
[23:19.000 -> 23:19.840] Alive or dead?
[23:19.840 -> 23:22.120] Oh my God, Senna in the Red Bull.
[23:22.120 -> 23:22.960] Oh wow.
[23:22.960 -> 23:24.600] Because it takes corners so quick
[23:24.600 -> 23:27.040] and that guy drifted like no other. You put Senna in the Red Bull. Oh wow. Because it takes corners so quick and that guy drifted like no other.
[23:27.040 -> 23:30.880] You put Senna in that Red Bull, he would be a monster.
[23:30.880 -> 23:32.280] I do think, I wonder, yeah,
[23:32.280 -> 23:34.760] if like with the advancement of technology,
[23:34.760 -> 23:36.880] because you know how much like shit's getting so real
[23:36.880 -> 23:38.160] these days and shit like that.
[23:38.160 -> 23:41.200] I wonder if like, I don't know, if technology,
[23:41.200 -> 23:43.880] like this is me thinking way ahead here,
[23:43.880 -> 23:48.520] but if they could scan like the quality of a person like just everything about them
[23:48.520 -> 23:52.680] basically that their brain so they could take they could make like a like a
[23:52.680 -> 23:58.000] person who is essentially Senna all the skills and qualities that he had I just
[23:58.000 -> 24:02.400] put it in a new body or like a robot I don't think they'll be able to do that
[24:02.400 -> 24:06.000] stick it with an f1 car I mean I thought I knew what you were gonna say
[24:06.000 -> 24:06.840] and that went quite far for us.
[24:06.840 -> 24:08.520] What did you think I was gonna say then?
[24:08.520 -> 24:09.400] Well, I thought you were gonna say
[24:09.400 -> 24:11.640] they'd be able to look at like Senna's lap times
[24:11.640 -> 24:14.640] and look at like where he was quick, where he was slow,
[24:14.640 -> 24:16.520] proper judge it scientifically
[24:16.520 -> 24:19.840] and then match it up with like the current red bull time.
[24:19.840 -> 24:21.080] And then they'd be able to figure out
[24:21.080 -> 24:23.000] what Senna's time roughly would have been
[24:23.000 -> 24:24.480] in that red bull looking at the corner.
[24:24.480 -> 24:26.040] Oh yeah, but that's kind of what I meant.
[24:26.040 -> 24:26.880] But then like,
[24:26.880 -> 24:27.700] You actually want to fail the person.
[24:27.700 -> 24:29.640] Apply that to a robot, yeah,
[24:29.640 -> 24:30.680] and then send it round a track.
[24:30.680 -> 24:32.000] Maybe, mate, maybe.
[24:32.000 -> 24:32.920] That would be ledge.
[24:32.920 -> 24:34.240] It's a difficult one though,
[24:34.240 -> 24:35.600] because you've got to remember,
[24:35.600 -> 24:36.960] it's such a different era as well.
[24:36.960 -> 24:39.880] Like, maybe if you put Lewis Hamilton,
[24:39.880 -> 24:42.960] no, maybe if you put, I don't know,
[24:42.960 -> 24:46.860] Lando Norris in that car back then, Lando would have been terrible.
[24:46.860 -> 24:47.700] Maybe the-
[24:47.700 -> 24:49.440] We saw what Leclerc did to Niki Lauda's car.
[24:49.440 -> 24:50.800] Well mate, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[24:50.800 -> 24:53.840] Different cars, completely different types of driving.
[24:53.840 -> 24:55.680] They would have suited different people.
[24:55.680 -> 24:56.760] So maybe the current grip
[24:56.760 -> 24:57.920] wouldn't have been able to drive that car.
[24:57.920 -> 24:59.320] Maybe they wouldn't be able to drive this car.
[24:59.320 -> 25:01.800] I wonder whether it has actually got like easier.
[25:01.800 -> 25:03.200] But if they could adapt.
[25:03.200 -> 25:05.400] If these robots could adapt to the new car.
[25:05.400 -> 25:06.360] But if anyone could come back
[25:06.360 -> 25:07.960] and win the championship right now, it'd be Senna.
[25:07.960 -> 25:09.840] And I reckon he'd do it in a Ferrari.
[25:09.840 -> 25:12.240] I reckon he'd do it in a Red Bull.
[25:12.240 -> 25:13.880] They're probably the only two cars quick enough.
[25:13.880 -> 25:15.120] But I reckon if Senna was in there,
[25:15.120 -> 25:17.120] any of them teams he'd be winning, they're now.
[25:17.120 -> 25:21.280] I would love nothing more than like,
[25:21.280 -> 25:23.160] I don't know, COVID to like,
[25:23.160 -> 25:25.920] I wouldn't love this, but if COVID struck and there was a load of drivers and reserve drivers who couldn't come on and they were just like, I don't know, COVID to like, I wouldn't love this, but if COVID struck
[25:25.920 -> 25:27.800] and there was a load of drivers and reserve drivers
[25:27.800 -> 25:29.200] who couldn't come on and they were just like,
[25:29.200 -> 25:31.440] fuck, we have to do this race this week.
[25:31.440 -> 25:34.320] Like we need to get, to like call up Jenson Button,
[25:34.320 -> 25:37.280] they call up Felipe Massa, they call up fucking-
[25:37.280 -> 25:38.600] Well, like, old school-
[25:38.600 -> 25:42.480] Martin Brundle, like get all the boys on the grid.
[25:42.480 -> 25:43.320] That would be genius.
[25:43.320 -> 25:44.800] It would be class to get all of them in the new cars
[25:44.800 -> 25:45.600] and line them all up.
[25:45.600 -> 25:46.720] They should just do it for charity.
[25:46.720 -> 25:48.120] Yeah, maybe COVID doesn't have to happen.
[25:48.120 -> 25:50.400] Why do they have to get ill?
[25:50.400 -> 25:52.080] But like, if they did do that,
[25:52.080 -> 25:53.240] if they were just like, look,
[25:53.240 -> 25:55.640] like in like the four months or whatever that they have off
[25:55.640 -> 25:57.360] before, like when the season's off,
[25:57.360 -> 25:59.520] they should get like all these ex drivers
[25:59.520 -> 26:01.280] and put them in all the current cars,
[26:01.280 -> 26:04.800] a whole like 20 person grid and just give them a race.
[26:04.800 -> 26:06.440] Yeah, that would be good, like 20 laps.
[26:06.440 -> 26:07.840] Brundle in the Mercedes.
[26:07.840 -> 26:08.920] Who would win?
[26:08.920 -> 26:09.760] Brundle.
[26:09.760 -> 26:11.960] You reckon, if they bring back one of the current guys,
[26:11.960 -> 26:13.280] like the presenters or whatever, you think Brundle?
[26:13.280 -> 26:14.800] Nah, probably Jenson Button.
[26:14.800 -> 26:15.640] Do you?
[26:15.640 -> 26:16.460] I think David Hill.
[26:16.460 -> 26:17.300] He was a side of driver.
[26:17.300 -> 26:18.760] David Hill would come straight out.
[26:18.760 -> 26:21.520] David Hill's like, basically like my blood
[26:21.520 -> 26:23.600] because he won the championship in 1996
[26:23.600 -> 26:24.800] and I was born in 1996.
[26:24.800 -> 26:26.640] So me and him are like tight, but he doesn't know it.
[26:26.640 -> 26:27.840] You guys are essentially related.
[26:27.840 -> 26:31.400] Yeah, he doesn't have any idea who I am, but we're related.
[26:31.400 -> 26:32.520] Yeah, I was going to say, it's mad.
[26:32.520 -> 26:34.200] Yeah, how he didn't recognize you.
[26:34.200 -> 26:36.400] Because like my granddad's got really like
[26:36.400 -> 26:37.920] white gray hair like him.
[26:37.920 -> 26:40.520] Oh, you're saying your granddad could be Damon Hill.
[26:42.320 -> 26:45.320] No, but Damon Hill's a good looking chap. So, yeah.
[26:45.320 -> 26:46.320] Like he is, isn't he?
[26:46.320 -> 26:47.320] He's got like good hair.
[26:47.320 -> 26:48.320] Yeah, oh god yeah, yeah.
[26:48.320 -> 26:49.320] Yeah.
[26:49.320 -> 26:50.320] Anyway, next.
[26:50.320 -> 26:51.320] Yeah.
[26:51.320 -> 26:52.320] Anyway, that's all my notes dried up.
[26:52.320 -> 26:53.320] Oh, you've got all your notes gone already?
[26:53.320 -> 26:54.320] Pretty much, yeah.
[26:54.320 -> 26:55.320] Oh, well guys, we were only going to film a little quick episode today because as you
[26:55.320 -> 26:56.320] know, there's no race.
[26:56.320 -> 26:57.320] Our predictions will be coming on Thursday and I believe the next time we speak, me and
[26:57.320 -> 26:58.320] Fab would have been in the car.
[26:58.320 -> 26:59.320] We're going to be in the car.
[26:59.320 -> 27:00.320] We're going to be in the car.
[27:00.320 -> 27:01.320] We're going to be in the car.
[27:01.320 -> 27:02.320] We're going to be in the car.
[27:02.320 -> 27:03.320] We're going to be in the car.
[27:03.320 -> 27:04.320] We're going to be in the car.
[27:04.320 -> 27:05.460] We're going to be in the car. We're going to be in the car. We're going to be in the car. We're going you know there's no race. Our predictions will be coming on Thursday.
[27:05.460 -> 27:12.180] And I believe the next time we speak, me and Fab would have been to film the SAS thing.
[27:12.180 -> 27:14.780] Which is absolutely petrifying me.
[27:14.780 -> 27:16.780] We're gonna be broken. We're gonna be broken men.
[27:16.780 -> 27:18.780] We've watched like trailers of it online.
[27:18.780 -> 27:19.540] Yeah.
[27:19.540 -> 27:20.900] And uh, it looks pretty terrifying.
[27:20.900 -> 27:24.980] We're gonna do a Jake vs Fab, so it's up to you guys to pick who you wanna get behind.
[27:24.980 -> 27:25.960] Um, the episode of that's gonna be out next Tuesday as a bonus episode. It looks pretty terrifying. We're going to do a Jake versus Fab, so it's up to you guys to pick who you want to get behind.
[27:25.960 -> 27:29.960] The episode of that's going to be out next Tuesday as a bonus episode, because we still
[27:29.960 -> 27:32.020] want to get our Formula 1 stuff up.
[27:32.020 -> 27:35.320] But we do want all you guys to watch the YouTube video when it's out, because it's going to
[27:35.320 -> 27:36.320] be hilarious.
[27:36.320 -> 27:37.320] It's going to be awful.
[27:37.320 -> 27:40.000] You're going to see a different side of me and Jake.
[27:40.000 -> 27:42.840] Oh, you're going to see what we're really like, because I'm going to be holding something
[27:42.840 -> 27:47.560] above my head, shouting You're gonna see you're gonna see five minutes of pure strength
[27:48.160 -> 27:54.080] Determination willpower and then the next hour and a half of just two two lads struggling
[27:54.080 -> 28:02.040] I'm just getting shouted at by a guy who won't do anything. Yeah, carry this log ten miles. I've ordered us some nice army outfits. Yeah
[28:02.920 -> 28:04.100] Christ
[28:04.100 -> 28:06.120] No, it's gonna be hilarious
[28:06.120 -> 28:09.880] Thank you very much for joining us on this Monday morning. We hope you have an amazing week
[28:09.880 -> 28:17.240] It is race week Baku this weekend. We'll give you all our predictions and more chat about Baku on Thursday other than that
[28:18.120 -> 28:22.440] Wednesday's gonna be a long day for us. Maybe we should film the podcast before when before we go to
[28:23.040 -> 28:25.320] You've got a drive so long as well to get there.
[28:25.320 -> 28:26.160] I think it's probably a good shout, yeah.
[28:26.160 -> 28:27.960] We have to pre-record.
[28:27.960 -> 28:28.800] Pre-record.
[28:28.800 -> 28:29.620] Thursday's up, yeah.
[28:29.620 -> 28:30.460] Pre-record.
[28:30.460 -> 28:32.240] We'll see you guys Thursday morning.
[28:32.240 -> 28:33.160] Wish us luck.
[28:33.160 -> 28:36.660] Jake versus Fab with Ollie Ollerton is coming very,
[28:36.660 -> 28:37.500] very soon.
[28:37.500 -> 28:39.040] Get excited, people!
[28:39.040 -> 28:40.480] Get excited, it's gonna be great.
[28:40.480 -> 28:42.080] Give the podcast a five star review.
[28:42.080 -> 28:43.920] Like and subscribe if you haven't already.
[28:43.920 -> 28:48.160] And we'll see you guys on Thursday. Woo! Woo!
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