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2023 McLaren Driver Oscar Piastri has joined us on the PitStop podcast on OUR SOFA for today's very special episode. We've wanted Oscar on the podcast for a long time and are so glad we had this time with him to sit down and speak about his journey into Formula 1. There is no doubt that the young Australian driver is one of the most exciting talents to ever join the F1 grid. We can't wait to watch him race with Lando Norris next year at McLaren and hope you guys enjoy this EXCLUSIVE interview before Oscar Piastri enters Formula 1 off the back of 3 world championships in a row. A massive thank you to Oscar for coming to our flat and for giving us your time. Also a big thank you to Oscar's team you have been great and thank you for helping us make this happen! This is Part 1 of a two-part episode so make sure you check out Part 2! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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# The Pit Stop Podcast Episode Summary: Oscar Piastri's Journey to Formula One
**Introduction**
* Hosts Jake Boys and Fabio Bocca welcome their first-ever Formula One driver, Oscar Piastri, to the podcast.
* Piastri expresses his excitement about being on the show and shares his journey to becoming a Formula One driver.
**Early Years and Remote Control Car Racing**
* Piastri's passion for racing began with remote control car racing, where he competed in national championships and developed his skills.
* He transitioned to karting at the age of nine and quickly showed promise, eventually moving to England at 14 to pursue his racing career.
**Boarding School and Focus on Racing**
* Piastri attended boarding school in England, which provided him with structure and allowed him to focus on his racing.
* He acknowledges that the thought of boarding school was initially daunting, but he ultimately enjoyed the experience and credits it for helping him develop as a driver.
**Junior Career Success**
* Piastri won three consecutive championships in Formula Renault Euro Cup, Formula 3, and Formula 2, showcasing his exceptional talent and rapid progression through the junior ranks.
* He reflects on the challenges of balancing school and racing during his early years in England.
**Transition to Formula One**
* Piastri discusses the uncertainty he faced after winning Formula 2, as he knew the chances of securing a Formula One seat were slim.
* He expresses his disappointment at not being on the Formula One grid immediately, but acknowledges that the testing program with Alpine was the next best option.
* Piastri highlights the difficulty of watching his former competitors race while he was sidelined, but finds comfort in knowing he had already proven himself in the junior categories.
**Current Situation and Future Aspirations**
* Piastri shares his excitement about joining McLaren for the 2023 Formula One season and his eagerness to get back to racing.
* He emphasizes the importance of taking things one step at a time and focusing on improving as a driver.
* Piastri expresses his gratitude for the support he has received throughout his career and his determination to make the most of the opportunity with McLaren.
**Conclusion**
* The hosts thank Piastri for his time and express their admiration for his achievements.
* They wish him the best of luck in his Formula One career and look forward to following his progress. # Podcast Summary: Oscar Piastri's Journey to Formula One
## Early Success and Championship Wins:
- Oscar Piastri's first major championship victory came in the Renault Euro Cup Formula 4 series, where he clinched the title in Abu Dhabi.
- The championship battle was intense, with Piastri and Victor Martins emerging as the frontrunners.
- Piastri faced immense pressure and nervousness leading up to the final race, as a second-place finish would have resulted in a narrow defeat.
- He ultimately secured the championship with a win in the first race and a second-place finish in the second race.
## The Importance of Social Media:
- Piastri's social media presence offers a unique insight into his career journey, showcasing his progression from karting days to Formula One.
- He acknowledges that this level of social media exposure is relatively new for Formula One drivers.
- Piastri's Instagram account serves as a comprehensive documentation of his career, allowing fans to witness his growth and achievements.
## Formula 3 and Beyond:
- Piastri's success in Formula 3, including his championship win, is a testament to his talent and determination.
- He highlights the differences between Formula 3 and Formula 2, emphasizing the greater emphasis on driver skill in Formula 3.
- Piastri expresses his excitement about the upcoming Formula One season and his aspirations for the future.
## Additional Insights:
- Piastri discusses the challenges of adapting to different tracks and cars, emphasizing the importance of adaptability and learning.
- He shares his thoughts on the current state of Formula One, expressing optimism about the sport's future and the increasing popularity of Formula 3.
- Piastri acknowledges the influence of social media in Formula One, recognizing its potential to connect drivers with fans and enhance the overall fan experience.
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[01:00.680 -> 01:02.440] I mean, now here we are doing this.
[01:02.440 -> 01:04.960] Yeah, you've got an F1 driver sitting in your arm.
[01:04.960 -> 01:05.000] Well, that's it. Okay, no, you've got an F1 driver in your arm.
[01:05.000 -> 01:05.840] Well that's it.
[01:05.840 -> 01:07.160] Okay, no I'm not an F1 driver yet.
[01:07.160 -> 01:09.680] No, no, just for the beauty of it,
[01:09.680 -> 01:11.000] we've said F1 driver.
[01:11.000 -> 01:13.720] For the last week, F1 driver.
[01:13.720 -> 01:18.720] Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode
[01:23.960 -> 01:25.000] of the Pit Stop Podcast.
[01:25.000 -> 01:27.280] It's your two favourite podcasting lads.
[01:27.280 -> 01:32.080] And today, yeah, today is a very special episode once again, isn't it?
[01:32.080 -> 01:37.200] We have got a very special guest with us on our sofa, our first ever Formula One driver
[01:37.200 -> 01:39.080] to join us here in our flat.
[01:39.080 -> 01:40.280] Mate, we've done it.
[01:40.280 -> 01:44.240] We said at the start of this year, we wanted to get an F1 driver in our living room.
[01:44.240 -> 01:46.720] We've done a few drivers, but we've always been elsewhere.
[01:46.720 -> 01:50.000] But now this guy's sat right in front of us, I can't believe it.
[01:50.000 -> 01:52.000] Ladies and gentlemen, Oscar Piastri.
[01:52.480 -> 01:52.960] Thank you.
[01:52.960 -> 01:53.760] Thank you for being here.
[01:53.760 -> 01:56.320] It was an incredible course, thank you.
[01:58.560 -> 01:59.920] Cheers, thank you for having me.
[01:59.920 -> 02:02.080] How's things mate? How was the journey here, was it okay?
[02:02.640 -> 02:07.360] It was okay, a bit of a drive but it was pretty good, not too much traffic.
[02:07.360 -> 02:12.320] I was expecting there to be much more traffic being in London but it was a smooth journey.
[02:12.320 -> 02:14.400] We're a little bit further out here so it's not so bad.
[02:14.400 -> 02:16.960] It's good to see you again mate because we've bumped into you before.
[02:16.960 -> 02:18.960] Yes, yeah I was going to say you have bumped into me.
[02:18.960 -> 02:20.240] I was going to say do you remember that?
[02:20.240 -> 02:21.920] I don't, near my place.
[02:21.920 -> 02:29.560] It would be so funny to hear that story from your point of view because I'd love to Tell you it from ours. Yeah. Well from my point of view it was I think I
[02:30.080 -> 02:33.760] Think one of you good. I think it was you Jake. They got in touch and
[02:34.800 -> 02:41.240] I can't remember when it was it was like April or May or I've been like it was just as we started slightly earlier
[02:42.680 -> 02:46.420] I'd said from the beginning you were someone I wanted to get on.
[02:46.420 -> 02:48.500] So we'd reached out to you straight away,
[02:48.500 -> 02:50.240] even though the pod was like brand new
[02:50.240 -> 02:51.400] and you'd come back fair enough
[02:51.400 -> 02:52.880] and been like, yeah, all right, I'm up for it.
[02:52.880 -> 02:53.940] And then we'd bumped into you
[02:53.940 -> 02:55.840] like literally a couple of days later.
[02:56.720 -> 02:58.440] Yeah, we were at Ollie's house.
[02:58.440 -> 03:00.680] Just did a podcast with Ollie Caldwell at his flat.
[03:00.680 -> 03:01.600] Great guy.
[03:01.600 -> 03:03.440] Coming out, we were actually talking about you.
[03:03.440 -> 03:06.260] We were stood in his hallway talking about,
[03:06.260 -> 03:07.760] he was like, oh yeah, Oscar lives down the hallway.
[03:07.760 -> 03:08.960] We're like, oh, that's cool.
[03:08.960 -> 03:09.800] As you come out the front door,
[03:09.800 -> 03:11.480] you're literally walking down the hallway.
[03:11.480 -> 03:12.920] And so there's this awkward moment
[03:12.920 -> 03:14.760] where we're about to get in the lift
[03:14.760 -> 03:16.480] and I say to Jake, like, do we wait for him?
[03:16.480 -> 03:19.000] Or like, no, no, that's not, that's fucking weird.
[03:19.000 -> 03:22.360] And then we waited downstairs for you and then, yeah.
[03:22.360 -> 03:24.720] In all fairness, I was saying, no, let's go to the car.
[03:24.720 -> 03:25.960] Like, it'll be weird if we wait.
[03:25.960 -> 03:28.280] And Baz was like, no, we haven't said hello.
[03:28.280 -> 03:29.440] So we stood at the bottom of the lift,
[03:29.440 -> 03:31.720] you come out, we're like, Oscar, hello.
[03:31.720 -> 03:33.760] Yeah, well, cause for me,
[03:33.760 -> 03:35.400] like it took me a couple of seconds,
[03:35.400 -> 03:37.280] but then I realised who you guys were.
[03:37.280 -> 03:38.560] And then I was kind of like,
[03:38.560 -> 03:42.920] because I think we'd actually declined
[03:42.920 -> 03:45.440] that interview for that at that time.
[03:45.440 -> 03:48.600] Or I don't know, it got handballed off to someone else.
[03:48.600 -> 03:51.560] I put it off to whoever I was dealing with.
[03:51.560 -> 03:53.160] And then I think that got a no,
[03:53.160 -> 03:55.160] cause obviously this would have happened much earlier.
[03:55.160 -> 03:56.000] Otherwise, but.
[03:56.000 -> 03:57.560] So I was kind of like,
[03:57.560 -> 04:00.560] oh, I think we've just said no to these guys
[04:00.560 -> 04:02.200] and now they're at my house.
[04:02.200 -> 04:04.040] So yeah, no, that was funny.
[04:04.040 -> 04:07.640] But we made it and look, you got me over to your place.
[04:07.640 -> 04:08.480] So, well done.
[04:08.480 -> 04:09.320] We done.
[04:09.320 -> 04:10.200] I can't believe you're coming.
[04:10.200 -> 04:11.920] Thank you so much for being the first one
[04:11.920 -> 04:15.320] to actually be on our sofa in our flat.
[04:15.320 -> 04:16.160] It's pretty crazy.
[04:16.160 -> 04:17.960] You've drove here and you're still living
[04:17.960 -> 04:18.800] where you were before.
[04:18.800 -> 04:19.640] Yeah, yeah.
[04:19.640 -> 04:22.560] For now, probably not going into next year.
[04:22.560 -> 04:23.380] Yeah, fair.
[04:23.380 -> 04:24.220] New house.
[04:24.220 -> 04:25.460] Yeah, probably. Bigger house, probably. Yeah, fair. New house. Yeah, probably.
[04:25.460 -> 04:26.760] Bigger house, probably.
[04:27.940 -> 04:29.580] Maybe, yeah, we'll see.
[04:29.580 -> 04:30.420] Whilst we're actually on the,
[04:30.420 -> 04:32.060] I've seen a video of you online,
[04:32.060 -> 04:33.340] and I'm gonna jump straight to it.
[04:33.340 -> 04:34.900] It's of someone's filming you,
[04:34.900 -> 04:36.940] maybe a flatmate or someone,
[04:36.940 -> 04:38.420] and obviously there's stuff all over your room
[04:38.420 -> 04:40.660] because you travel a lot, saves us.
[04:40.660 -> 04:41.500] Oh, the curtain.
[04:41.500 -> 04:44.300] Yeah, mate, I know you love your sleep,
[04:44.300 -> 04:46.040] and I saw you had a blackout blind.
[04:46.040 -> 04:46.360] Yeah.
[04:46.360 -> 04:50.000] But it crapped me up because the blackout blind didn't cover the whole window.
[04:50.000 -> 04:52.280] I'm trying to think of that blackout blind.
[04:52.280 -> 04:54.480] Because I live with...
[04:54.480 -> 04:55.320] It might be a long time ago.
[04:55.320 -> 04:57.120] I live with Kyle Collette in...
[04:57.120 -> 05:00.200] He races in F3 this year.
[05:00.200 -> 05:01.480] And that might have been our...
[05:01.480 -> 05:04.080] I think that was our old flat.
[05:04.080 -> 05:11.160] And I... Well, it, my girlfriend actually bought this blackout blind, but it was getting to the
[05:11.160 -> 05:16.560] point where like during the day, it was so dark, I just couldn't see anything.
[05:16.560 -> 05:21.000] So, I left a little bit open because then I was waking up and like, sometimes you can
[05:21.000 -> 05:25.000] get a rough idea of what time it is like 5am, 6am or 9am
[05:25.000 -> 05:27.800] But sometimes, you know, like if I'd had a late night
[05:27.800 -> 05:31.300] I'd wake up and I'd be like, oh, it's still pitch black. I must, you know, I've got a few hours
[05:31.300 -> 05:32.000] I'll go back to sleep
[05:32.000 -> 05:34.300] Check my phone and it's like midday or something already
[05:34.300 -> 05:35.000] Sounds like us
[05:35.000 -> 05:36.300] Literally sounds like us
[05:36.300 -> 05:40.100] I thought you just bought a blind from the shop, put it up and realized it didn't fit the window
[05:40.100 -> 05:41.600] No, no, there was...
[05:41.600 -> 05:45.200] So my girlfriend bought... I think she bought two of them.
[05:45.200 -> 05:51.200] And so if I wanted to, I could have blacked out the whole room and the next wall and everything.
[05:51.200 -> 05:54.200] And then when we left that flat, I...
[05:54.200 -> 05:58.400] So my... Obviously, I've lived on my own for quite a while,
[05:58.400 -> 06:02.800] but there's still quite a few things that I'm picking up as I go along with life experience.
[06:02.800 -> 06:03.800] So, you know...
[06:03.800 -> 06:04.400] As we all are.
[06:04.400 -> 06:06.280] Exactly. You know know those little sticky things
[06:06.280 -> 06:08.320] you put on the wall to like the Velcro things?
[06:08.320 -> 06:10.400] Yeah, command strips.
[06:10.400 -> 06:11.240] Yes, those.
[06:11.240 -> 06:12.060] That's what we stick everything up with.
[06:12.060 -> 06:13.800] So I can see you guys have also had some difficulties
[06:13.800 -> 06:15.760] on the wall there.
[06:15.760 -> 06:17.400] Many holes in the wall.
[06:17.400 -> 06:19.080] They're about the times I've tried to put pictures up
[06:19.080 -> 06:20.640] in the middle of the night, it's just, boom.
[06:20.640 -> 06:23.640] Yeah, so I didn't realise that when you're supposed
[06:23.640 -> 06:28.000] to unstick them, you're supposed to pull them a certain way or like try and peel him off a certain way.
[06:28.000 -> 06:29.000] Oh, did you pull half the wall off with it?
[06:29.000 -> 06:36.000] Well, not half the wall but about, it was a pretty old flat so it'd been repainted a few times so probably about an inch of paint came off.
[06:36.000 -> 06:42.000] And there was like, I don't know, 15 velcro strips so yeah, that was a, that came out of the deposit after that flat.
[06:42.000 -> 06:46.240] But Kaio, he, we had a roll of duct tape.
[06:46.240 -> 06:48.640] I don't know why, but he duct taped the curtain
[06:48.640 -> 06:49.480] to the window.
[06:49.480 -> 06:53.260] So then we spent like one afternoon trying to get rid
[06:53.260 -> 06:55.240] of all the glue from the duct tape
[06:55.240 -> 06:58.200] because we just left all these marks over the window.
[06:58.200 -> 06:59.200] It just sounds like us.
[06:59.200 -> 07:00.040] I know.
[07:00.040 -> 07:01.240] It's just, it's just lads,
[07:01.240 -> 07:03.000] young lads trying to figure out life.
[07:03.000 -> 07:03.840] I've read all your tweets
[07:03.840 -> 07:05.280] cause we were doing our research.
[07:05.280 -> 07:07.280] We've actually done research for today's episode.
[07:07.280 -> 07:08.280] We did, we dived deep.
[07:08.280 -> 07:09.280] We thought it would be worth it.
[07:09.280 -> 07:10.280] We dived deep.
[07:10.280 -> 07:11.280] And yeah, I was reading the tweets, you're cooking?
[07:11.280 -> 07:12.280] Yes, my cooking.
[07:12.280 -> 07:13.760] I've been reading about all the tweets about cooking.
[07:13.760 -> 07:16.040] Oh, the prawn pasta, that looked really good.
[07:16.040 -> 07:17.400] Yeah, no, that one was good.
[07:17.400 -> 07:21.320] That one had some assistance from my girlfriend, but I'm going to take the credit for that
[07:21.320 -> 07:27.280] one, but my girlfriend does help me out with with the cooking. I haven't set too many things on fire
[07:27.840 -> 07:33.000] Recently, which is good. My cooking my cooking is not bad. I'm surprised you didn't set your clothes on fire
[07:33.000 -> 07:36.960] I saw you using your oven to dry your clothes. Yeah, so that flat was
[07:38.000 -> 07:40.000] the
[07:40.320 -> 07:42.320] What the issue was there but
[07:42.320 -> 07:45.220] Basically was taking forever for our clothes to dry
[07:45.220 -> 07:48.960] because I just think it stayed quite cold and there wasn't really any air passing through.
[07:48.960 -> 07:50.680] So I...
[07:50.680 -> 07:51.320] It's genius!
[07:51.320 -> 07:54.120] I was going to say, it's a genius idea because we should do it.
[07:54.120 -> 07:55.760] No matter how you explain it, it's genius.
[07:55.760 -> 07:57.240] I know, so...
[07:57.240 -> 08:02.440] Well, that's what I thought and then I started getting comments of like carbon monoxide poisoning and all sorts of stuff.
[08:02.440 -> 08:05.040] And I was like, maybe this isn't such a good idea anymore.
[08:05.040 -> 08:08.240] But anyway, I got my clothes in a dry enough state
[08:08.240 -> 08:09.080] that I could wear them.
[08:09.080 -> 08:11.200] Cause I think I was going somewhere important.
[08:11.200 -> 08:13.400] That's why I resorted to desperate measures.
[08:13.400 -> 08:17.080] But yeah, I haven't had to do that one since.
[08:17.080 -> 08:20.160] So hopefully, I've now got to wash a dryer in my new place.
[08:20.160 -> 08:23.320] So, Kyo's had an incident with that
[08:23.320 -> 08:27.440] where he didn't realize that the dryer isn't for all clothes.
[08:27.440 -> 08:31.360] So a lot of his like sports tops ended up becoming
[08:31.360 -> 08:32.760] about three sizes smaller.
[08:32.760 -> 08:36.800] So he took the hit on that one.
[08:36.800 -> 08:39.080] So I didn't have to learn that one myself,
[08:39.080 -> 08:41.240] but I also asked my mom whether I should do that or not.
[08:41.240 -> 08:44.640] So, you know, I'm still asking mom for all sorts of stuff,
[08:44.640 -> 08:46.080] even though she's on the other side of the world.
[08:46.080 -> 08:49.080] Oh man, we're nearly 27 and I still ask my mum every day.
[08:49.080 -> 08:50.080] Did I call her up yesterday?
[08:50.080 -> 08:51.080] Yeah you did.
[08:51.080 -> 08:53.480] I was like mum what setting should I wash the clothes on because they all shrink.
[08:53.480 -> 08:54.480] Yeah.
[08:54.480 -> 08:56.080] I put a dishwasher tablet in the washing machine.
[08:56.080 -> 08:57.080] Oh no.
[08:57.080 -> 08:58.080] That's not clever.
[08:58.080 -> 08:59.080] No.
[08:59.080 -> 09:00.080] But they do kind of look the same.
[09:00.080 -> 09:01.080] Yeah they do kind of look the same.
[09:01.080 -> 09:02.080] Well easy mistake.
[09:02.080 -> 09:03.080] Let's all just support each other here.
[09:03.080 -> 09:06.480] No but yeah you drove it today.
[09:06.480 -> 09:07.520] Thank you so much for being here.
[09:07.520 -> 09:09.400] We would love to talk to you about your journey,
[09:09.400 -> 09:12.560] you know, start to finish and get into all of that.
[09:12.560 -> 09:14.520] I did just want to say though, before we do that,
[09:14.520 -> 09:16.820] how do you find it driving a normal car
[09:16.820 -> 09:18.080] compared to a racing car?
[09:18.080 -> 09:18.960] Do you get bored?
[09:21.920 -> 09:25.000] No, like, I mean, it's very, very different.
[09:25.000 -> 09:26.560] Like there's a lot, there's actually,
[09:26.560 -> 09:28.360] I actually find driving on the road,
[09:29.320 -> 09:30.760] like there's a lot of things you gotta look out for.
[09:30.760 -> 09:31.680] You gotta look out for people,
[09:31.680 -> 09:33.880] you gotta look out for cars coming out of the way.
[09:33.880 -> 09:36.480] Like on a racetrack, it's actually reasonably simple.
[09:36.480 -> 09:37.920] Okay, you're going really fast, but-
[09:37.920 -> 09:39.080] You haven't got a park on a race,
[09:39.080 -> 09:40.720] I saw you parking down there, it was a bit.
[09:40.720 -> 09:42.560] Yeah, it was a little bit.
[09:42.560 -> 09:44.360] I just went and sat in that parking with shit.
[09:44.360 -> 09:46.000] It wasn't the best, I'll give you that.
[09:46.000 -> 09:48.000] And it's a small car too, so that's bad.
[09:48.000 -> 09:55.440] But like on a racetrack you just go straight and drive fast and yeah okay you've got other
[09:55.440 -> 09:59.760] people going pretty quick as well but you know you don't have cars going left right
[09:59.760 -> 10:06.740] or bikes or people walking, you know, dogs running out across So there's enough to keep you entertained on the road
[10:06.740 -> 10:10.020] as well in a very different way, but it's a bit slow.
[10:10.020 -> 10:12.380] Maybe I could ask that question that my dad had.
[10:12.380 -> 10:14.020] Oh yeah, it's a good time to do that, yeah.
[10:14.020 -> 10:17.420] So do you drive an automatic or do you drive a manual?
[10:17.420 -> 10:20.940] At the moment, a manual, but like the car I came in
[10:20.940 -> 10:22.340] this morning is not actually my car.
[10:22.340 -> 10:25.120] I'm borrowing a car because mine's getting fixed
[10:25.120 -> 10:28.000] at the moment, but normally an automatic.
[10:28.000 -> 10:29.440] So if you were driving an automatic,
[10:29.440 -> 10:32.480] would you use left foot braking in a normal car?
[10:32.480 -> 10:33.300] You wouldn't?
[10:33.300 -> 10:34.140] No.
[10:34.140 -> 10:34.980] Because-
[10:34.980 -> 10:35.800] That clears it out for your dad.
[10:35.800 -> 10:36.640] That does, yeah.
[10:36.640 -> 10:37.920] It's a burning question my dad had.
[10:37.920 -> 10:40.800] Yeah, because like the pedals are all offset
[10:40.800 -> 10:42.720] for like your right foot still.
[10:42.720 -> 10:44.600] So even if you try to left foot brake,
[10:44.600 -> 10:49.820] like your foot basically ends up on top of your right foot and like I
[10:49.820 -> 10:54.420] think my I think most racing drivers legs their left leg is trained to hit
[10:54.420 -> 10:59.100] the brake pedal really really hard I've tried left foot braking yeah smash my
[10:59.100 -> 11:02.380] head against the windscreen yeah it's not good so right foot braking all the way
[11:02.380 -> 11:05.280] there you go, dad. Now we know.
[11:05.280 -> 11:06.100] There you go, Aldo.
[11:06.100 -> 11:07.120] Hope you like that one.
[11:07.120 -> 11:09.680] Mate, we got so many, there's so much to talk about,
[11:09.680 -> 11:11.640] but let's start right at the beginning.
[11:12.520 -> 11:14.480] Your car, well, your childhood and your karting days.
[11:14.480 -> 11:15.320] Let's talk about that.
[11:15.320 -> 11:16.480] Well, we can start, I think earlier,
[11:16.480 -> 11:18.520] with the earliest remote control car racing.
[11:18.520 -> 11:19.360] Oh, yeah.
[11:19.360 -> 11:20.180] The first thing you did.
[11:20.180 -> 11:21.020] Yeah, so.
[11:21.020 -> 11:21.860] Mate, I've got to show you this.
[11:21.860 -> 11:22.960] Look at this, I used to do it.
[11:22.960 -> 11:23.800] Did you really?
[11:23.800 -> 11:25.880] Yeah, look at this, that's me and my remote control car
[11:25.880 -> 11:27.860] and I won trophies in that.
[11:27.860 -> 11:28.700] Yeah.
[11:28.700 -> 11:31.600] I see you're a Red Bull fan from the very early days.
[11:31.600 -> 11:33.920] I had a Red Bull in my car from the beginning.
[11:33.920 -> 11:34.760] I remember I-
[11:34.760 -> 11:35.580] It's just the hair for me.
[11:35.580 -> 11:39.120] I remember getting my mum to buy me that shell off eBay.
[11:39.120 -> 11:39.960] I found it online.
[11:39.960 -> 11:41.920] I remember changing all the engines,
[11:41.920 -> 11:42.760] everything you do.
[11:42.760 -> 11:44.080] It'd be in the back of a car boot.
[11:44.080 -> 11:45.680] Like you'd be driving around doing it all.
[11:45.680 -> 11:48.120] Yeah, no, that was, it was good fun.
[11:48.120 -> 11:48.940] That's where I started.
[11:48.940 -> 11:53.000] So I was like, I think six or seven years old.
[11:53.000 -> 11:54.520] And originally it was me and my dad,
[11:54.520 -> 11:58.360] we started racing off-road,
[11:58.360 -> 12:00.760] like electric remote control cars.
[12:00.760 -> 12:04.000] And then like that was, no, not electric, sorry.
[12:04.000 -> 12:04.920] It was nitro.
[12:04.920 -> 12:07.960] So like I had nitro fuel and all sorts of stuff.
[12:07.960 -> 12:09.920] And then my dad, I think after a couple of years
[12:09.920 -> 12:13.240] kind of realized that maybe that's not the best environment
[12:13.240 -> 12:15.600] for a six-year-old to be in with like, you know
[12:15.600 -> 12:18.600] poisonous nitrous and all sorts of stuff.
[12:18.600 -> 12:21.680] And the other thing was like, you have to go out
[12:21.680 -> 12:24.720] to the track and like marshal the next race.
[12:24.720 -> 12:30.140] So they have a bunch of different classes. then like if someone rolls their car over like the people from the race
[12:30.140 -> 12:32.140] You have to pick it up. You stand in the corners, right?
[12:32.140 -> 12:32.540] Of course
[12:32.540 -> 12:36.960] I was six or seven and like there's these cars flying through the air at like, you know
[12:36.960 -> 12:41.760] Nearly a hundred kilometers an hour in some cases. Are they that quick? Yeah, they're quick. They're really quick
[12:41.760 -> 12:44.920] So my dad was like there's no way you're doing that
[12:44.920 -> 12:45.040] So it was you know, there's no way you're doing that.
[12:45.040 -> 12:48.840] So, it was, you know, it was a lot of, he had to go do it and he would race himself.
[12:48.840 -> 12:51.160] So, he was, you know, running all over the place doing it.
[12:51.640 -> 12:58.880] So, then we went to on-road cars and that was easier for me to, you know, just do stuff.
[12:58.880 -> 13:02.520] And, you know, it was electric and not as much stuff to kill myself with.
[13:02.520 -> 13:03.560] So, that was good.
[13:03.560 -> 13:06.400] I can actually do more stuff, but it's really, really technical.
[13:06.400 -> 13:10.240] Like honestly, there's probably more stuff you can change
[13:10.240 -> 13:12.760] on one of those cars than you can on a race car.
[13:12.760 -> 13:15.280] Like compared to F2 and F3, okay, F1,
[13:15.280 -> 13:18.040] you build the whole car, but like F2 and F3,
[13:18.040 -> 13:19.680] there was definitely, I reckon,
[13:19.680 -> 13:21.680] more stuff you could change on a remote control car
[13:21.680 -> 13:24.400] that's, you know, like, what's that?
[13:24.400 -> 13:26.320] Half a meter long, not even. I remember all the parts you could change on a remote control car that's, you know, like, what's that, half a meter long, or not even.
[13:26.320 -> 13:28.000] I remember all the parts you could get for him.
[13:28.000 -> 13:30.080] You could get like different engines, different everything.
[13:30.080 -> 13:31.760] We used to do it in the back of Simon's car.
[13:31.760 -> 13:34.160] We'd literally have the boot open, all the stuff, drawers.
[13:34.160 -> 13:38.080] I did have one as a kid, but I never competed, but I did have one.
[13:38.080 -> 13:39.920] Yeah, but there's like, it was all kinds of stuff.
[13:39.920 -> 13:43.840] I used to race competitively, like we raced at the national championships
[13:43.840 -> 13:44.880] and all sorts of stuff.
[13:44.880 -> 13:45.040] So we used to go intoly, like we've raced at the national championships and all sorts of stuff.
[13:45.040 -> 13:47.760] So we used to go into interstate in Australia.
[13:47.760 -> 13:49.880] And yeah, you know, you rock up to a race
[13:49.880 -> 13:52.760] and you've got like a box full of like,
[13:52.760 -> 13:56.680] different thickness of shock oils to change that stuff.
[13:56.680 -> 13:59.440] And you know, 50 sets of tires.
[13:59.440 -> 14:00.640] Yeah, loads of wheels.
[14:00.640 -> 14:02.480] And you know, and you can use,
[14:02.480 -> 14:04.160] like it's basically open slather,
[14:04.160 -> 14:05.880] like you can use tire treatment. Again, open slave. Like you can use tire treatment again.
[14:05.880 -> 14:09.200] There's some pretty lethal chemical combinations in there,
[14:09.200 -> 14:11.820] but like you can, you know, tire warmers,
[14:11.820 -> 14:13.060] tire treatment stuff,
[14:13.060 -> 14:14.920] like there's all sorts of stuff you can do on there.
[14:14.920 -> 14:16.180] It was good fun.
[14:16.180 -> 14:18.960] And I think it helped a little bit when I went to karting
[14:18.960 -> 14:22.800] because like I knew a little bit roughly
[14:22.800 -> 14:27.000] like what a racing line was, sort of how to race even if you know
[14:27.140 -> 14:30.500] It's a bit different when you're holding a remote control versus sitting in the car
[14:30.500 -> 14:32.000] Because things hurt when you crash
[14:32.000 -> 14:35.000] Did you use one of the remote controls where you hold the square or where you're doing the round thing?
[14:35.000 -> 14:38.000] No, no with the like the actual wheel not like the joysticks
[14:38.000 -> 14:41.600] Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought so. Yeah, yeah people started using them at my club. It wasn't national
[14:41.600 -> 14:49.840] It was like a local club, but we still competed. I traveled around Sass That's unreal. So like the level before you've never really told me about this. Mate I used to love it.
[14:49.840 -> 14:55.900] I used to love it and everyone knew me as the guy that would just smash into everyone as you know. I would be losing.
[14:55.900 -> 14:58.620] Still carrying that trait through to the moment of one day.
[14:58.620 -> 15:00.620] Yeah, honestly it hasn't changed.
[15:00.620 -> 15:06.640] So did you know at that young age of six that you wanted to become a driver or was it just a hobby that you've enjoyed?
[15:06.640 -> 15:09.000] At that point, it was just a hobby that I enjoyed.
[15:09.000 -> 15:10.840] Like my dad basically just bought them
[15:10.840 -> 15:12.560] and he was like, do you want to have a go?
[15:12.560 -> 15:13.880] And we like, at the very beginning,
[15:13.880 -> 15:15.920] we just started taking it out in like the backyard
[15:15.920 -> 15:17.320] or the school oval.
[15:17.320 -> 15:19.600] We, I think we got in trouble a couple of times at school
[15:19.600 -> 15:21.160] for fanging them around there.
[15:21.160 -> 15:23.260] But then we started competing.
[15:23.260 -> 15:25.760] And then like, we met someone through there
[15:25.760 -> 15:28.120] who was sort of like in the karting scene
[15:28.120 -> 15:29.880] and like he had a daughter who had a go-kart
[15:29.880 -> 15:31.800] and he was actually the first person
[15:31.800 -> 15:34.000] who gave me a go in a go-kart.
[15:34.000 -> 15:37.060] That was when I was, I think like nine at that point.
[15:38.080 -> 15:40.680] So then once I did that, then I was kind of like,
[15:40.680 -> 15:42.760] oh, okay, I think I actually like this more
[15:42.760 -> 15:44.520] than remote control cars.
[15:44.520 -> 15:48.000] And then started that journey off. And then, you know, at the, even in karting though, I was just doing it, I think I actually like this more than remote control cars. Yeah. And then started that journey off and then, you know, even in karting though,
[15:48.000 -> 15:49.800] I was just doing it for fun at the start.
[15:49.800 -> 15:53.600] Like I was reasonably decent from the outset,
[15:53.600 -> 15:56.920] but like at the beginning, it never really crossed my mind that I'd be,
[15:57.360 -> 16:01.520] you know, firstly moving to the other side of the world five years or six years from that point.
[16:02.040 -> 16:05.720] And then, you know, reaching F1, that was, yeah,
[16:05.720 -> 16:07.480] that was not what I was thinking at all at that point.
[16:07.480 -> 16:09.600] It was just have fun and enjoy it.
[16:09.600 -> 16:10.440] So.
[16:10.440 -> 16:11.260] How old were you when you moved to England?
[16:11.260 -> 16:13.960] I was 14.
[16:13.960 -> 16:17.600] So I moved for the first six months with my dad.
[16:17.600 -> 16:22.320] And then when the school year started in September of 2016,
[16:22.320 -> 16:23.480] I went to boarding school.
[16:23.480 -> 16:25.640] So I went to boarding school for four years
[16:25.640 -> 16:28.080] and then yeah, now I'm-
[16:28.080 -> 16:30.120] I don't know anyone that's been to boarding school
[16:30.120 -> 16:30.960] like at all.
[16:30.960 -> 16:31.920] I don't have any friends to do.
[16:31.920 -> 16:33.160] What is it like?
[16:33.160 -> 16:35.680] Like, cause I used to be petrified of it.
[16:35.680 -> 16:36.520] Not gonna lie.
[16:36.520 -> 16:37.960] Cause my mom used to make jokes about it.
[16:37.960 -> 16:38.800] Yeah.
[16:38.800 -> 16:40.400] My mom used to joke about it.
[16:40.400 -> 16:41.240] If I was naughty,
[16:41.240 -> 16:42.880] I'd have to go stay somewhere I couldn't come back.
[16:42.880 -> 16:46.140] Well, not only are you away from your family,
[16:46.140 -> 16:47.480] but you're on the other side of the world.
[16:47.480 -> 16:51.020] Yeah, that was, I think being with my dad
[16:51.020 -> 16:53.200] for the first six months helped quite a lot
[16:53.200 -> 16:57.160] because I had him there and I could learn some things
[16:57.160 -> 16:59.560] with his guidance and stuff like that.
[17:00.600 -> 17:02.400] But for me, boarding school was actually,
[17:02.400 -> 17:04.020] I actually quite enjoyed it.
[17:04.020 -> 17:06.920] I mean, the thought of it when I first went there was like,
[17:06.920 -> 17:08.440] oh shit, I'm going to boarding school.
[17:08.440 -> 17:10.560] Like, this is the stuff of nightmares
[17:10.560 -> 17:12.680] for 13, 14 year old kids.
[17:12.680 -> 17:14.120] I don't know why, but I imagine it like,
[17:14.120 -> 17:15.760] like you see on TV, like old fashioned,
[17:15.760 -> 17:16.960] where there's just loads of single beds
[17:16.960 -> 17:17.800] all next to each other.
[17:17.800 -> 17:19.720] But I'm guessing you actually probably have a room, right?
[17:19.720 -> 17:21.560] Yeah, well, you've got like-
[17:21.560 -> 17:22.480] It's not like a prison,
[17:22.480 -> 17:24.880] but I imagine it like in the old days, like Victorian,
[17:24.880 -> 17:26.400] where there's like just loads of beds in one big room.
[17:26.400 -> 17:27.520] The toilet in the room.
[17:27.520 -> 17:30.160] No, no, no, it's not, it's changed from it.
[17:30.160 -> 17:32.400] I don't know if I imagine it like that.
[17:32.400 -> 17:37.920] It was alright, like the younger kids, like I think the year level below what I joined,
[17:37.920 -> 17:42.720] like they all stayed in the same big room, so there's probably like 10 of them there.
[17:43.440 -> 17:45.200] But then after that, you're in like rooms of two,
[17:45.200 -> 17:50.400] the like when you get to sixth form you're in rooms of one usually. So yeah it's pretty good.
[17:50.400 -> 17:56.320] But I think if I hadn't have been able to go out and go racing every few weeks or so,
[17:57.680 -> 18:02.720] would it have been the choice? Probably not. But I think for me school actually was really
[18:02.720 -> 18:06.160] beneficial because like those six months with my dad,
[18:06.160 -> 18:09.000] like, okay, it was nice that I had my dad there,
[18:09.000 -> 18:11.880] but like, I wasn't really doing school.
[18:11.880 -> 18:13.360] I wasn't really doing anything apart
[18:13.360 -> 18:14.800] from going to go-kart races.
[18:14.800 -> 18:17.280] So then like, you know, you'd spend the next two
[18:17.280 -> 18:18.760] or three weeks in between races,
[18:18.760 -> 18:20.960] just overthinking everything.
[18:20.960 -> 18:23.200] Like that's a bit of a habit of mine
[18:23.200 -> 18:24.740] that I've been trying to get rid of,
[18:24.740 -> 18:26.420] just overthinking stuff. And especially at that point of a habit of mine that I've been trying to get rid of, just overthinking stuff.
[18:26.420 -> 18:27.680] And especially at that point,
[18:27.680 -> 18:28.960] like when you've got no school,
[18:28.960 -> 18:30.200] you don't know anyone there,
[18:30.200 -> 18:31.360] you've got your dad,
[18:31.360 -> 18:34.600] you know, he's working quite a lot of the time.
[18:34.600 -> 18:37.960] Like you just overthink all the time.
[18:37.960 -> 18:40.180] And then it's not really that healthy, I don't think.
[18:40.180 -> 18:41.200] So then when I went to school,
[18:41.200 -> 18:44.000] like I was quite fortunate that all the people
[18:44.000 -> 18:46.080] in my boarding house
[18:52.000 -> 18:55.760] because not everyone can board or not everyone chooses to. So my house, all of the people in my year level actually boarded with me. So there was like 10 of us. So it was kind of like living
[18:55.760 -> 19:01.760] with, you know, eight or nine or 10 of your mates. So that was actually really, really good for me.
[19:01.760 -> 19:05.800] Do you remember like going back to boarding school when you were like having dinner
[19:05.800 -> 19:07.880] or chatting to your friends or having lunch?
[19:07.880 -> 19:09.600] At that time in your head,
[19:09.600 -> 19:11.640] did you think or even believe
[19:11.640 -> 19:13.520] that you would be in Formula One?
[19:13.520 -> 19:15.640] Like when you put yourself back then
[19:15.640 -> 19:16.480] and you're in boarding school,
[19:16.480 -> 19:19.120] you've moved to England to focus on racing.
[19:19.120 -> 19:21.040] Did you believe you could do it?
[19:21.880 -> 19:24.000] Well, at the start, I think,
[19:24.000 -> 19:26.460] I think I believed it was possible,
[19:26.460 -> 19:28.060] but I never really,
[19:30.400 -> 19:32.720] I almost never dared to think about it
[19:32.720 -> 19:36.140] because I knew the chances of it were so, so small.
[19:37.700 -> 19:39.760] And at that point, I really just wanted to become
[19:39.760 -> 19:42.480] a professional racing driver in anything really,
[19:42.480 -> 19:44.120] like getting paid to drive race cars.
[19:44.120 -> 19:47.240] That was the first aim and goal that I had.
[19:47.240 -> 19:51.240] And of course, you know, the best way to do that
[19:51.240 -> 19:54.600] is by going through the junior single-seater categories.
[19:54.600 -> 19:57.300] And then they went well,
[19:57.300 -> 19:59.520] and then they sort of just got better and better and better.
[19:59.520 -> 20:02.960] And then, you know, it was only really when I got into F2
[20:02.960 -> 20:04.360] where I was like, okay,
[20:04.360 -> 20:07.220] like there's no more junior categories
[20:07.220 -> 20:08.220] after this.
[20:08.220 -> 20:10.000] This is the last step.
[20:10.000 -> 20:16.280] And even at the start of that year, I was like, it might not happen this year, and there's
[20:16.280 -> 20:23.040] probably going to be another year of F2, and even still, the chances of getting to F1 are
[20:23.040 -> 20:25.040] really slim. Like, you know, even with my career,
[20:25.040 -> 20:28.160] I won F2 and then had the year out this year.
[20:28.160 -> 20:29.960] And, you know, there was not,
[20:29.960 -> 20:32.280] there was a few moments of uncertainty
[20:32.280 -> 20:34.120] even to get into F1 for next year.
[20:34.120 -> 20:36.760] So, you know, I knew at that point,
[20:36.760 -> 20:39.160] the chances were so slim that I just wanted to go racing
[20:39.160 -> 20:40.120] and do that as a job.
[20:40.120 -> 20:40.960] Yeah, yeah.
[20:40.960 -> 20:41.800] I wanted to ask that.
[20:41.800 -> 20:43.600] I mean, you've had a year off.
[20:43.600 -> 20:44.760] What were you feeling in that year?
[20:44.760 -> 20:46.120] I mean, you kind of just answered the question,
[20:46.120 -> 20:49.640] but what is it like, you know, that you've just won F2,
[20:49.640 -> 20:50.760] you know, the next step is F1,
[20:50.760 -> 20:53.560] but it's so hard to get into, you've got 20 people
[20:53.560 -> 20:56.000] and so many other people trying to get into the sport as
[20:56.000 -> 20:58.000] well, what were you feeling at that time?
[20:58.000 -> 21:02.240] I think once I, well, like I found out
[21:02.240 -> 21:03.720] that I wasn't going to be on the F1 grid
[21:03.720 -> 21:06.200] before F2 finished that year.
[21:07.200 -> 21:12.200] So, I was announced as Alpine's reserve things before the last two rounds of F2.
[21:12.200 -> 21:18.200] So, I knew from before the season finished that I wasn't going to be in F1 the next year,
[21:19.200 -> 21:22.200] which was a bit disappointing, I can't lie.
[21:22.200 -> 21:27.480] But, you know, this year we've had a good testing program with Alpine
[21:29.200 -> 21:34.200] and that was sort of the next best thing we could do
[21:35.440 -> 21:38.000] once I wasn't gonna get a seat.
[21:38.840 -> 21:41.520] But I'm a racing driver and I wanna go racing.
[21:41.520 -> 21:43.240] Yeah, you wanna race, it's competitive.
[21:43.240 -> 21:45.520] It's been a bit tricky, especially, I think it first hit me when I went to go racing. Yeah, you want to race. It's been a bit tricky, especially,
[21:45.520 -> 21:48.840] I think it first hit me when I went to the first race.
[21:48.840 -> 21:53.640] And there's F1, but then there's also F2 and F3 there.
[21:53.640 -> 21:57.600] And it's the people I've been racing against and looking up
[21:57.600 -> 22:00.440] to for the last four or five years.
[22:00.440 -> 22:02.280] And everyone's there racing.
[22:02.280 -> 22:04.400] All the people that I raced against the year before
[22:04.400 -> 22:05.440] were there racing. And then there that I raced against the year before over there racing.
[22:05.440 -> 22:08.540] And then there's kind of just me standing there watching.
[22:08.540 -> 22:10.920] So, that was a bit hard to deal with.
[22:10.920 -> 22:13.360] That's gotta be tough to see them all go out and doing it.
[22:13.360 -> 22:16.680] And you're just like, oh man, I wanna be on that track.
[22:16.680 -> 22:17.560] Pretty much, yeah.
[22:17.560 -> 22:20.700] And I knew I had a bit of comfort knowing
[22:20.700 -> 22:23.520] that the reason I was sitting out
[22:23.520 -> 22:25.320] was because I literally didn't have
[22:25.320 -> 22:27.600] any other junior categories to race.
[22:28.440 -> 22:30.280] So I knew that I had sort of like,
[22:30.280 -> 22:32.680] I knew I had my championships on the board
[22:32.680 -> 22:34.640] and that was never gonna change.
[22:36.240 -> 22:38.960] So I knew that sort of I'd done everything I could
[22:38.960 -> 22:40.760] to prove myself already.
[22:40.760 -> 22:44.920] So that part wasn't too frustrating or concerning.
[22:44.920 -> 22:48.280] It was more just, you know, I really want to go racing.
[22:48.280 -> 22:49.640] Your journey's incredible as well.
[22:49.640 -> 22:51.240] Cause you've, you've three championships in a row,
[22:51.240 -> 22:52.080] isn't it?
[22:52.080 -> 22:52.920] Was it even four?
[22:52.920 -> 22:53.960] Three, yeah.
[22:53.960 -> 22:55.360] In your rookie season too?
[22:56.840 -> 22:58.880] F3 and F2 are my rookie season, yeah.
[22:58.880 -> 23:01.080] My Euro cup was second year.
[23:01.080 -> 23:03.240] I can't even imagine what it's like to win one champ,
[23:03.240 -> 23:05.060] all the trophies in me are the remote control cars,
[23:05.060 -> 23:05.940] their third trophy.
[23:05.940 -> 23:07.220] So I've never won any.
[23:07.220 -> 23:08.060] So I can't imagine.
[23:08.060 -> 23:09.060] He's got a podium though, he's got a podium,
[23:09.060 -> 23:09.900] don't knock yourself.
[23:09.900 -> 23:11.380] I was actually going to edit a photo of me on the podium,
[23:11.380 -> 23:13.140] to try and put me on the top,
[23:13.140 -> 23:14.400] but I didn't get around to it.
[23:14.400 -> 23:15.860] No, yeah, what does it feel,
[23:15.860 -> 23:17.060] do you remember winning your first,
[23:17.060 -> 23:18.860] like the, was it Renault Formula 4?
[23:18.860 -> 23:19.700] Or my run?
[23:19.700 -> 23:21.620] It was Formula Renault Euro Cup, so it's-
[23:21.620 -> 23:23.140] That's not far off for me to be fair.
[23:23.140 -> 23:24.740] Not far off, so it's like,
[23:24.740 -> 23:28.320] it's what Formula Regional is today.
[23:28.320 -> 23:30.800] It's the same championship, but it's just a different name.
[23:30.800 -> 23:33.080] Is that, what's the difference,
[23:33.080 -> 23:35.200] like skill level wise, right?
[23:35.200 -> 23:37.120] Because could we get into Formula Four
[23:37.120 -> 23:37.960] is what we're asking.
[23:37.960 -> 23:41.000] You can just say no, you don't have to pretend.
[23:41.000 -> 23:42.920] I think with enough,
[23:42.920 -> 23:46.560] like I think without doing karting beforehand, it's difficult.
[23:47.080 -> 23:50.920] Because you learn so much in karting, not so much about...
[23:51.440 -> 23:56.920] There's things that don't really translate in terms of driving from go-karts to F4.
[23:56.960 -> 23:57.600] Yeah, fair.
[23:57.640 -> 24:02.160] But just having other people around you on track, learning how to race against people,
[24:02.400 -> 24:05.960] that stuff is what karting is so good
[24:05.960 -> 24:13.040] for. So you probably could and with enough testing, like you'd probably be decent. Like,
[24:13.040 -> 24:20.080] I don't think it's outside the realms of possibility. I haven't seen you guys drive, so I haven't
[24:20.080 -> 24:22.120] seen your lap times on the sim yet.
[24:22.120 -> 24:23.120] Oh yeah.
[24:23.120 -> 24:24.880] Oh, well, we actually haven't mentioned that yet.
[24:24.880 -> 24:26.080] People listening have no idea.
[24:26.080 -> 24:26.920] Yeah.
[24:26.920 -> 24:28.440] No, this leaderboard's been in the background
[24:28.440 -> 24:29.600] of our videos for quite a while.
[24:29.600 -> 24:30.920] We haven't really mentioned anything much about it.
[24:30.920 -> 24:32.360] For those of you watching on YouTube.
[24:32.360 -> 24:33.400] For those of you watching on YouTube,
[24:33.400 -> 24:35.360] if you're not, go check out the video.
[24:36.520 -> 24:37.400] We'll talk about that later.
[24:37.400 -> 24:38.240] Yes.
[24:38.240 -> 24:39.060] We'll get into it.
[24:39.060 -> 24:39.900] Yeah, we'll get into that later.
[24:39.900 -> 24:42.560] Yeah, so Renault Euro Cup Formula 4, you won it.
[24:42.560 -> 24:45.040] What was it like winning your first championship?
[24:45.040 -> 24:46.480] Do you remember that moment, that day?
[24:46.480 -> 24:48.160] Do you remember what you did after?
[24:48.160 -> 24:50.520] I remember that whole week before.
[24:50.520 -> 24:54.300] So the race was in Abu Dhabi in, I think it was October.
[24:54.300 -> 24:56.120] So it was hot.
[24:56.120 -> 24:59.920] It was like 36 degrees or something and pretty humid.
[25:00.920 -> 25:03.680] And yeah, that was pretty much the first time in my life
[25:03.680 -> 25:07.520] I'd been in a championship deciding situation. I was either much the first time in my life I'd been in like a championship deciding situation.
[25:07.520 -> 25:09.640] I was either going to come first or second.
[25:11.000 -> 25:15.240] And yeah, I won the first race of that weekend.
[25:15.240 -> 25:17.960] So I had a pretty big buffer into the second race
[25:17.960 -> 25:19.360] of the last race.
[25:20.360 -> 25:23.920] But like, I remember, like I physically felt weak
[25:23.920 -> 25:27.880] at some points because I was, you I was so nervous and stuff like that.
[25:27.880 -> 25:31.200] So it was firstly a massive relief
[25:31.200 -> 25:32.280] when I won the championship.
[25:32.280 -> 25:34.480] I think with all of my championships,
[25:34.480 -> 25:37.400] not so much F2 because it was a bit more comfortable
[25:37.400 -> 25:40.360] that year, but Formula Renault and F3,
[25:40.360 -> 25:42.440] the first one was like massive relief
[25:42.440 -> 25:44.440] because they both went down to the wire.
[25:42.460 -> 25:44.460] The first one was like massive relief because they both went down to the wire.
[25:45.700 -> 25:50.500] But you know, it's such a happy feeling after you win.
[25:50.500 -> 25:51.860] I'm in a very fortunate position
[25:51.860 -> 25:54.800] where I haven't come out on the other side of that yet.
[25:54.800 -> 25:55.980] Like I haven't finished second.
[25:55.980 -> 25:56.820] Perfect streak.
[25:56.820 -> 25:59.860] Yeah, so it's been good from that side of things,
[25:59.860 -> 26:04.300] but you know, even in F2, you know,
[26:04.300 -> 26:05.000] I had a decent point gap,
[26:08.800 -> 26:11.240] but even still, you still get nervous.
[26:11.240 -> 26:13.280] All it takes is a crash here, a crash there,
[26:13.280 -> 26:15.480] the other guy to do well, and all of a sudden,
[26:15.480 -> 26:16.960] you can level up so quickly
[26:16.960 -> 26:19.320] and all sorts of stuff goes through your head.
[26:19.320 -> 26:20.880] I can imagine, because you're racing in F4,
[26:20.880 -> 26:23.220] which is massive, and then you've got this chance
[26:23.220 -> 26:26.720] to win a championship, the night before, or even that week before.
[26:26.720 -> 26:28.240] It must be all you can think about.
[26:28.240 -> 26:29.960] Like I would be there, I wouldn't,
[26:29.960 -> 26:31.400] I'd just be lying in bed all night thinking,
[26:31.400 -> 26:32.240] what if this happens?
[26:32.240 -> 26:33.080] What if I win?
[26:33.080 -> 26:33.900] What if it?
[26:33.900 -> 26:36.280] It was really, it was pretty hard stuff.
[26:36.280 -> 26:40.080] Like there was me and Victor Martins actually,
[26:40.080 -> 26:42.720] who was fighting for the championship.
[26:42.720 -> 26:45.280] And the sort of story of that season
[26:45.280 -> 26:49.440] was it was more or less me or him winning every race.
[26:49.440 -> 26:51.160] So it went into the last round,
[26:51.160 -> 26:52.640] especially at the end of the season.
[26:52.640 -> 26:55.500] So at the end, into the last round,
[26:57.760 -> 26:59.000] it was basically me or him
[26:59.000 -> 27:01.920] that was gonna win both races probably,
[27:01.920 -> 27:03.400] or a combination of the two.
[27:03.400 -> 27:07.280] And Victor came out in practice and I'd been to Abu Dhabi a couple of times
[27:07.280 -> 27:10.000] before that so I was reasonably confident. Victor hadn't been there
[27:10.000 -> 27:13.840] before. And then we went out for the first
[27:13.840 -> 27:17.360] practice session and Victor was a second faster than all of us.
[27:17.360 -> 27:21.200] Like I was, my engineer was coming on the radio and he was like we're one second
[27:21.200 -> 27:26.640] off compared to Victor and we're P2. So I was like, oh shit, like that's not good.
[27:26.640 -> 27:29.080] Because then, you know, at least if I was further back
[27:29.080 -> 27:31.640] at least there's other people that could take points off him
[27:31.640 -> 27:34.640] because the scenario was if he won both races
[27:34.640 -> 27:36.640] and I finished second in both races
[27:36.640 -> 27:38.760] I would have lost by half a point.
[27:38.760 -> 27:39.960] It really was that close.
[27:39.960 -> 27:44.440] So I was like, okay, like if he wins both races, I lose.
[27:44.440 -> 27:46.840] And if I come second, which is a very good chance I will
[27:46.840 -> 27:50.000] in these two races, I'm gonna lose by half a fricking point.
[27:50.000 -> 27:54.000] So that was like, that scenario going in was like,
[27:54.000 -> 27:55.480] I cannot let that happen.
[27:55.480 -> 27:58.200] Otherwise it's gonna be chaos.
[27:58.200 -> 28:01.160] So unfortunately that didn't happen.
[28:01.160 -> 28:03.280] And I never had to relive that scenario,
[28:03.280 -> 28:05.760] but yeah, it was a tough one. It wasn't even long ago. No, that wasn't long ago. That's the that scenario, but yeah, it was a tough one.
[28:05.760 -> 28:06.920] It wasn't even long ago.
[28:06.920 -> 28:07.760] No, it wasn't long ago.
[28:07.760 -> 28:08.580] That's the crazy thing.
[28:08.580 -> 28:09.420] I know, it was three years ago.
[28:09.420 -> 28:11.160] A lot has happened since then.
[28:11.160 -> 28:12.960] Like just win, win, win.
[28:12.960 -> 28:13.800] Yeah.
[28:13.800 -> 28:15.480] That's what hit me straight away
[28:15.480 -> 28:17.880] was going through your Instagram, right?
[28:17.880 -> 28:20.720] You can scroll all the way back to your carting days, 2014.
[28:20.720 -> 28:23.120] I think your first picture that's on there at the minute
[28:23.120 -> 28:25.880] is like, was it practice for the nationals?
[28:25.880 -> 28:26.720] Car in nationals?
[28:26.720 -> 28:27.560] Probably something.
[28:27.560 -> 28:28.380] Probably something.
[28:28.380 -> 28:32.760] I think I can probably picture the photo on Instagram.
[28:32.760 -> 28:33.600] But yeah, it probably was.
[28:33.600 -> 28:34.800] It's just a picture of the track.
[28:34.800 -> 28:37.040] That's what, we had this amazing conversation last night.
[28:37.040 -> 28:39.560] Your whole life is on Instagram.
[28:39.560 -> 28:41.480] Everyone can see your come up.
[28:41.480 -> 28:43.720] And not many drivers have that.
[28:43.720 -> 28:46.200] You're kind of like a new generation really.
[28:46.200 -> 28:47.500] Which I think is cool for the fans.
[28:47.500 -> 28:49.320] I wanted your perspective on it.
[28:49.320 -> 28:52.760] And also just generally like the media around F1.
[28:52.760 -> 28:55.600] Yeah, I think you're right.
[28:56.680 -> 29:00.200] I think this sort of people that have just come into F1,
[29:00.200 -> 29:02.040] like we're sort of the first ones
[29:02.040 -> 29:05.440] that have had social media since we were like kids more or less
[29:06.640 -> 29:08.640] so yeah, like my
[29:09.640 -> 29:14.240] Ironically basically when I started doing good in carding was when my parents let me get into the ground
[29:17.840 -> 29:23.840] Well, I was my third it was what I turned 13, so they're like when you turn 13, I think that's the official age limit
[29:24.360 -> 29:26.280] So I went in 10, you can get it.
[29:26.280 -> 29:28.320] So, I turned 13 and yeah, just so happened
[29:28.320 -> 29:31.680] that that's when things started going well in my career.
[29:31.680 -> 29:35.200] So, yeah, it's nice to have that sort of all documented there
[29:35.200 -> 29:38.880] and for people to see it's nice.
[29:38.880 -> 29:41.760] I think if you're scrolling back that far back to photos
[29:41.760 -> 29:43.480] from 2014 or whenever it was,
[29:43.480 -> 29:47.000] then you probably got too much time on your hands for the...
[29:47.000 -> 29:48.000] Like I said, we don't need...
[29:48.000 -> 29:51.000] Or you're doing research, it's all you're doing research for the broadcast.
[29:51.000 -> 29:52.000] That's what it was, that's all it was.
[29:52.000 -> 29:53.000] Wanted to be prepared, you know?
[29:53.000 -> 29:54.000] Exactly.
[29:54.000 -> 29:56.000] We found that now, because we can actually have proper conversation, we've done well
[29:56.000 -> 29:57.000] today.
[29:57.000 -> 30:00.000] We have done really well, we've got all this shit out of the way, now we can just talk
[30:00.000 -> 30:01.000] crap.
[30:01.000 -> 30:03.000] No, no, we haven't, because there's things I need to ask about Formula 3.
[30:03.000 -> 30:08.240] Jake, I would love to hear what you've got to ask about Formula 3, but I think first we should go for a little break.
[30:08.240 -> 30:09.520] Oh, you want to have a break?
[30:09.520 -> 30:14.800] Well, I think the people are enjoying the episode, but maybe they want to stick the kettle on, have a cup of tea, maybe they've got something to do.
[30:14.800 -> 30:18.560] Yeah, it's fair enough. You can always come back later. We hope you have enjoyed part one.
[30:18.560 -> 30:27.760] Go and find part two if you want to listen right now. Rate the podcast five stars on your way. Click the follow button if you don't mind. Do all of it, Oscar's such a legend, I can't believe we had him
[30:27.760 -> 30:32.200] on our sofa. Let's be honest, it's actually crazy that Oscar Piastri is sat on our sofa
[30:32.200 -> 30:37.880] opposite us. This episode is amazing, we hope you've enjoyed part one, part two is longer,
[30:37.880 -> 30:42.960] part two is better, you're gonna absolutely love it. Yeah they are. Guys, thanks for tuning
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