Ollie Ollerton on being a new F1 fan & His CRAZY life stories

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[00:59.840 -> 01:00.720] That was crazy.
[01:00.720 -> 01:03.280] See, all I want to do now is just talk about shit like that.
[01:03.280 -> 01:06.000] Me too. We should do that on track. see all I want to do now is just talk about shit like that, fuck the formula 1
[01:06.000 -> 01:10.000] we should do that on, they should do that on track, you know what I mean?
[01:10.000 -> 01:14.000] get a couple of fucking militia cars in there and like make it real
[01:14.000 -> 01:17.000] they will make some different decisions I bet ya
[01:29.960 -> 01:35.360] Ladies and gents, welcome back to another episode of the Pit Stop podcast. Today is again another special episode because we're joined by a guest again.
[01:35.360 -> 01:40.000] Five years in the Royal Marines, six years in the Special Boat Service, four books, he's
[01:40.000 -> 01:43.760] been on TV and now he's on the Pit Stop podcast.
[01:43.760 -> 01:45.800] Make some noise for Ollie Ollerton.
[01:45.800 -> 01:47.360] Woo hoo.
[01:47.360 -> 01:48.200] Thank you very much.
[01:48.200 -> 01:49.320] Thank you for joining us.
[01:49.320 -> 01:50.160] It's a pleasure.
[01:50.160 -> 01:51.440] Thank you, Jake.
[01:51.440 -> 01:53.360] And God, I have to get mixed up here.
[01:53.360 -> 01:55.040] Thank you, Jake and Fabio.
[01:55.040 -> 01:55.880] I'll get there in the end.
[01:55.880 -> 01:58.320] It's the elderly mind.
[01:58.320 -> 02:00.240] The Alzheimer's is kicking in.
[02:00.240 -> 02:02.240] That's what I feel like as well.
[02:02.240 -> 02:03.400] How are you, man?
[02:03.400 -> 02:04.320] Really good.
[02:04.320 -> 02:05.280] Really good. Pump good, really good.
[02:05.280 -> 02:07.740] Pumped, feeling energetic.
[02:07.740 -> 02:10.400] I'm actually really glad we're out of this dead zone
[02:10.400 -> 02:11.960] we've been in for the past two years.
[02:11.960 -> 02:16.960] So for a front face in business, we got hit hard.
[02:17.000 -> 02:17.840] You know what I mean?
[02:17.840 -> 02:19.800] So it's nice to actually be out there,
[02:19.800 -> 02:21.120] again, engaging with people.
[02:21.120 -> 02:22.280] You can't be any connection
[02:22.280 -> 02:24.420] like the face-to-face connection.
[02:24.420 -> 02:26.640] You know, you can do as many Zoom calls
[02:26.640 -> 02:28.360] and it's just the same as podcast, isn't it?
[02:28.360 -> 02:31.000] You do a Zoom podcast, it's never the same.
[02:31.000 -> 02:32.800] But it was a good substitute while it lasted,
[02:32.800 -> 02:34.600] but I'm glad to be out of that.
[02:34.600 -> 02:36.920] And yeah, and getting our business climbing
[02:36.920 -> 02:38.260] back up to where it should be.
[02:38.260 -> 02:39.100] Amazing.
[02:39.100 -> 02:39.920] Well, we're here at Breakpoint.
[02:39.920 -> 02:42.120] This is the Breakpoint HQ, correct?
[02:42.120 -> 02:44.040] That is it, in Shrewsbury.
[02:44.040 -> 02:44.880] In Shrewsbury, yeah.
[02:44.880 -> 02:45.800] In Shropshire.
[02:45.800 -> 02:48.080] A lot of people don't know where that is, so.
[02:48.080 -> 02:48.920] We didn't until we-
[02:48.920 -> 02:49.740] That's a blessing, I know it is.
[02:49.740 -> 02:50.580] Until we mapped it.
[02:50.580 -> 02:53.200] And this is a bonus episode for us
[02:53.200 -> 02:54.460] because this is the first time
[02:54.460 -> 02:56.680] we've done a Jake versus Fab challenge.
[02:56.680 -> 02:58.200] So alongside with this podcast,
[02:58.200 -> 03:00.240] there'll be a YouTube video of us.
[03:00.240 -> 03:01.960] Yeah, you're just gonna have to watch it
[03:01.960 -> 03:03.360] because it's gonna be pretty crazy.
[03:03.360 -> 03:04.200] Oh, it's gonna be-
[03:04.200 -> 03:05.240] I'm actually really excited about that
[03:06.240 -> 03:11.340] First thought who do I think a win? Yeah, you know what? This is always the hard thing
[03:11.340 -> 03:15.680] It's like the program SAS who dies wins. Yeah, you can never judge a book by the cover
[03:15.680 -> 03:18.960] I know because you don't know what's going on between the ears. I like it
[03:19.400 -> 03:21.400] There you go
[03:22.320 -> 03:24.320] Nothing to do in my amazing physique
[03:24.680 -> 03:26.720] That's gone physique then it'd be a different story.
[03:26.720 -> 03:34.960] Before we jump into the cool stuff, let's just whittle over the main subject. We've been informed
[03:34.960 -> 03:38.880] you're a new Formula One fan. I am a new Formula One fan, yeah. How long have you watched it?
[03:38.880 -> 03:45.660] Listen, I've watched it on and off all my life but it's the first time because of my stepson William
[03:45.960 -> 03:51.660] It's the first time I've actually sat down and really got into it and then had it had like a personal commentator
[03:51.920 -> 03:52.420] Yeah
[03:52.420 -> 03:58.000] Well in my ear 24-7 that's telling me everything about anything from tires to engines to the drivers
[03:58.000 -> 04:01.480] You know all kinds of information that I usually wouldn't bother with. Yeah
[04:02.780 -> 04:05.120] Yeah, there is but I I love, you know what?
[04:05.120 -> 04:09.040] Everyone think, I'm not a team player, sports person.
[04:09.040 -> 04:10.260] You know what I mean?
[04:10.260 -> 04:12.880] And also looking back on my sort of life,
[04:12.880 -> 04:15.040] I've always been more of an individual,
[04:15.040 -> 04:16.040] you know, where people would think,
[04:16.040 -> 04:17.320] oh, you're military, you know,
[04:17.320 -> 04:19.080] you must be an amazing team player.
[04:19.080 -> 04:21.240] And that's one thing about the special forces
[04:21.240 -> 04:24.840] is the fact that the special forces are a group of leaders
[04:24.840 -> 04:27.600] and they're a group of leaders that work together and adapt to being a
[04:27.600 -> 04:30.940] team. You know, I mean it's not the other way around. It's not like a team that
[04:30.940 -> 04:34.820] has one leader. It's like you're a group of leaders. So really I do like the
[04:34.820 -> 04:38.580] individual team sports. You know, I mean when it's one person who gets one
[04:38.580 -> 04:41.900] person one, you know, and a lot of the stuff I love about F1 is because it's
[04:41.900 -> 04:48.540] not just about the performance of the car. I mean there's a lot of stuff that there's a lot more stuff that goes into the tactics everything the mindset
[04:48.540 -> 04:50.340] And that's the stuff I've really loved
[04:50.340 -> 04:50.760] Yeah
[04:50.760 -> 04:54.400] I mean that's kind of the reason that we wanted to get you in is because of I feel like
[04:54.560 -> 05:00.460] Any we'll get onto this later, but anytime you have someone performing at peak and their peak performance
[05:00.640 -> 05:08.400] It must be the same across like the mindset that you go into. It must be the same across different sports, different jobs, like...
[05:08.400 -> 05:12.200] Yeah, 100%. I mean at the end of the day, you know, that's why I say I do a lot of talks as well. A lot of
[05:12.200 -> 05:15.320] people think, oh, you're ex-special forces, you must come, you know, cut from a
[05:15.320 -> 05:18.200] different cloth. And I can remember the first time someone said that to me and
[05:18.200 -> 05:22.160] I was like, rubbish. I bleed and breathe just like you. We're all the same. We
[05:22.160 -> 05:25.400] make decisions based on emotion. And a lot of the stuff we do, you know,
[05:25.400 -> 05:27.160] a lot of the stuff we did was obviously
[05:27.160 -> 05:29.720] under extreme pressure, but it's still the same process.
[05:29.720 -> 05:32.000] It's still the same mind as anyone else.
[05:32.000 -> 05:34.960] Some people have different severities, different exposure,
[05:34.960 -> 05:36.960] but yeah, it's 100% the same.
[05:36.960 -> 05:39.360] So it doesn't matter what walk of life you come from,
[05:39.360 -> 05:42.480] we are all human, well, most of us are human.
[05:42.480 -> 05:45.360] So are you at the point with Formula One where you watch
[05:45.360 -> 05:47.000] every weekend or just every now and again?
[05:47.040 -> 05:48.120] No, every now and again.
[05:48.480 -> 05:50.560] So you know where we are this weekend? Do you know? Do you
[05:50.560 -> 05:50.960] have any idea?
[05:55.080 -> 05:56.080] Yeah, I do know where we are.
[05:56.080 -> 05:57.080] Fact checker in the corner.
[05:57.280 -> 05:58.400] I can't pronounce it.
[05:58.720 -> 06:00.440] Azerbaijan. Yeah, that's it.
[06:00.440 -> 06:02.560] I knew it was somewhere I couldn't pronounce.
[06:02.560 -> 06:03.640] I saw it coming out, I thought I'd help you out.
[06:03.640 -> 06:05.040] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[06:05.040 -> 06:06.360] So we are there.
[06:06.360 -> 06:07.960] Oh, don't, we are brand new as well.
[06:07.960 -> 06:09.200] If you'd asked me that, I wouldn't have known
[06:09.200 -> 06:10.400] unless I checked in the car.
[06:10.400 -> 06:12.200] So yeah, we're brand new fans.
[06:12.200 -> 06:13.760] We're gonna be talking a load of shite today probably.
[06:13.760 -> 06:15.720] Yeah, but the thing is at the end of the day,
[06:15.720 -> 06:16.920] what's the problem in that?
[06:16.920 -> 06:19.600] You know, there's all that ego that steps into it.
[06:19.600 -> 06:20.440] You know what I mean?
[06:20.440 -> 06:21.280] People I know more than you.
[06:21.280 -> 06:23.040] It's like, who gives a, you know, I went to the F1,
[06:23.040 -> 06:26.120] not F1, the, cause I love my motorbikes,
[06:26.120 -> 06:29.340] as you probably can tell by all the motorbikes here.
[06:29.340 -> 06:31.080] But, you know, I went to the British Super,
[06:31.080 -> 06:32.300] I know nothing about super bikes,
[06:32.300 -> 06:34.960] but I love watching that motorbike go around the track
[06:34.960 -> 06:36.400] and the whole race.
[06:36.400 -> 06:39.280] That doesn't mean, because I don't know,
[06:39.280 -> 06:40.920] because I don't know the history of everything.
[06:40.920 -> 06:42.000] I don't know all the riders.
[06:42.000 -> 06:42.840] I don't know.
[06:42.840 -> 06:44.600] It doesn't mean I don't enjoy it just like everyone else.
[06:44.600 -> 06:45.160] You know, it's like. That's it. That's I don't enjoy it just like everyone else, you know, it's like.
[06:45.160 -> 06:47.520] That's it, that's the gap that we've had to step into,
[06:47.520 -> 06:48.760] you know, Formula One as a whole
[06:48.760 -> 06:50.520] is like a fortress of a business, right?
[06:50.520 -> 06:53.160] And they haven't really had people come from nowhere
[06:53.160 -> 06:55.240] without being with a big brand.
[06:55.240 -> 06:56.920] Just go in and do all this stuff.
[06:56.920 -> 06:59.360] And we've just launched this on our own.
[06:59.360 -> 07:00.960] And it's done well.
[07:00.960 -> 07:01.960] It's just the beginning.
[07:01.960 -> 07:03.480] It's only been a couple of months,
[07:03.480 -> 07:07.460] but we're taking on this empire, really.
[07:07.460 -> 07:08.300] It really is.
[07:08.300 -> 07:10.320] We want to work with them and we want to get in,
[07:10.320 -> 07:12.280] but at the moment we're just doing everything on our own.
[07:12.280 -> 07:14.280] We keep using the term that like we've managed
[07:14.280 -> 07:15.480] to infiltrate the castle.
[07:15.480 -> 07:17.720] Cause I feel like it's always been a closed off sport.
[07:17.720 -> 07:18.560] It really has.
[07:18.560 -> 07:20.640] And we've kind of just wandered into it.
[07:20.640 -> 07:21.480] Yeah.
[07:21.480 -> 07:25.280] But it's that at every tier though, isn't it?
[07:25.280 -> 07:29.000] F1 is that at every tier, even to get in as being a driver
[07:29.000 -> 07:33.920] and everything is very, very, very niche, very clicky.
[07:33.920 -> 07:34.760] You know what I mean?
[07:34.760 -> 07:35.720] You have to be in the club, so to speak.
[07:35.720 -> 07:36.560] Yeah.
[07:36.560 -> 07:37.680] But I think that's changing now.
[07:37.680 -> 07:38.680] Yeah, well hopefully.
[07:38.680 -> 07:40.280] With stuff like, I mean, have you watched,
[07:40.280 -> 07:41.800] so did you get into it through watching
[07:41.800 -> 07:43.840] Drive to Survive on Netflix?
[07:43.840 -> 07:49.320] I got it, I did, yeah, absolutely. That we were we were forced to watch that at home by William.
[07:53.320 -> 07:59.720] I mean when it comes to watching TV, I'm very much I want to watch the real true life stories, you know, documentaries. Yeah
[08:00.280 -> 08:01.840] Sometimes I watch
[08:01.840 -> 08:05.160] Other things that sort of fiction based but really for me
[08:05.160 -> 08:08.220] it's about the real life stuff, the documentaries that really...
[08:08.220 -> 08:13.400] I completely agree, I was never into Formula One at all. I used to look at it and I was just so bored.
[08:13.400 -> 08:16.760] Don't get me wrong, still sometimes in the middle of a race I get so bored.
[08:16.760 -> 08:21.840] I'm honest, I'm not even a cars person really. But once you can start learning about the life of
[08:21.840 -> 08:25.440] these people and the journey and the training and how intense this is
[08:25.440 -> 08:28.120] and all the business behind it, the money,
[08:28.120 -> 08:30.240] I get 10 times more fascinated.
[08:30.240 -> 08:31.820] And now I don't just see it as a race.
[08:31.820 -> 08:34.760] I see these humans that push into that,
[08:34.760 -> 08:36.680] you know, the very limit every week
[08:36.680 -> 08:38.680] to get to where they want to, well, peak performance.
[08:38.680 -> 08:42.440] And yeah, it is that for me and Drive Survive shown that.
[08:42.440 -> 08:44.500] So it's been great for the sport.
[08:44.500 -> 08:45.920] Yeah, I think it's been good.
[08:45.920 -> 08:47.980] Yeah, talking about peak performance there.
[08:47.980 -> 08:52.000] So let's get onto that because I've always felt like
[08:52.000 -> 08:54.480] when you see these guys and they're going wheel to wheel
[08:54.480 -> 08:57.120] in these cars, I mean, they are so,
[08:57.120 -> 08:59.480] sometimes they show like slow-mo footage
[08:59.480 -> 09:01.720] of the drivers like close up and you can see their eyes
[09:01.720 -> 09:07.280] and you can just see that like laser focus in their eyes. And that was one of the main things that I wanted to ask
[09:07.280 -> 09:11.400] you about. When you're in a firefight and you've got like bullets pinging over
[09:11.400 -> 09:15.040] your head, I mean you're in that same zone and I hear a lot of people say that
[09:15.040 -> 09:18.480] time like slows down in those moments and shit, but could you explain to me a
[09:18.480 -> 09:25.500] bit more about when you are in that fully focused zone? The thing is, it's...
[09:25.500 -> 09:29.800] that moment is what I discuss a lot of that with corporate clients, etc.
[09:29.800 -> 09:31.800] The slowing down of the situation.
[09:31.800 -> 09:35.000] Let me talk about what happens when you get into a very stressful situation.
[09:35.000 -> 09:37.400] And this is what the F1 drivers must go through as well.
[09:37.400 -> 09:40.700] Is the fact that you're breathing and this is what F1 drivers
[09:40.700 -> 09:42.900] and anyone at that peak performance has to control.
[09:42.900 -> 09:47.680] It's your breathing. Because before you know it it you get into any stress situation your breathing you
[09:47.680 -> 09:50.640] don't even know you're doing it it's like falling into cold water but there's
[09:50.640 -> 09:54.320] no water there your breathing becomes erratic and what happens then is
[09:54.320 -> 09:58.000] cortisol starts to increase our brain can only handle five to nine bits of
[09:58.000 -> 10:02.240] information at any one time when we stress that goes down to one maximum two
[10:02.240 -> 10:08.320] so the whole thing with f1 or anyone at that level when you're in a firefight you have to strip down you have to triage
[10:08.320 -> 10:12.880] the situation lock out the outside world all the stuff that doesn't matter you
[10:12.880 -> 10:17.320] have to bring it down to what we call one meter square okay that one meter
[10:17.320 -> 10:20.720] square is forget everything on the outside bring it right in close to you
[10:20.720 -> 10:26.280] and focus on your immediate environment you know I, I really start to triage in that moment
[10:26.280 -> 10:28.580] what really matters at this moment.
[10:28.580 -> 10:30.940] When I was in one particular firefight
[10:30.940 -> 10:33.340] and it was a life-changing situation,
[10:33.340 -> 10:35.180] I won't go into that,
[10:35.180 -> 10:38.620] but I analyzed that time and time again,
[10:38.620 -> 10:41.860] because for me, this is when I left the special forces.
[10:41.860 -> 10:43.260] It was the first time in my life
[10:43.260 -> 10:45.160] that I hadn't got my team my life that I hadn't got
[10:45.160 -> 10:46.560] my team around me.
[10:46.560 -> 10:48.840] I hadn't got air support.
[10:48.840 -> 10:51.600] I hadn't got naval gunfire from a ship out at sea.
[10:51.600 -> 10:54.080] And it was in that moment that I literally shit myself.
[10:54.080 -> 10:56.160] So you were in a firefight after you'd left?
[10:56.160 -> 10:56.980] Oh yeah, yeah.
[10:56.980 -> 10:59.480] And when I went to, I went to Iraq as a contractor.
[10:59.480 -> 11:01.520] So with Denny, you met before,
[11:01.520 -> 11:03.800] and you know, we spent a lot of time in Iraq
[11:03.800 -> 11:06.320] and living in a war zone for six years five six years
[11:07.120 -> 11:10.000] And to be honest that was more dangerous than being in special forces
[11:10.000 -> 11:14.640] Wow, because you didn't have that support. Yeah, you know and it was I can remember that moment
[11:14.640 -> 11:18.720] And the reason I say I shit myself is because I've not shit myself before I swear on this pocket
[11:20.640 -> 11:24.720] I've not shit myself before and it was a strange emotion for me and I couldn't work
[11:24.720 -> 11:27.880] I was like what what is this feeling I was freezing I was actually
[11:27.880 -> 11:30.760] freezing in the moment I was like and it wasn't until...
[11:30.760 -> 11:32.760] What happened?
[11:32.760 -> 11:37.040] We're being chased by two cars two militia cars on the highway where I was
[11:37.040 -> 11:41.280] at the rear car we were protecting three cars in front...
[11:41.280 -> 11:43.280] So you were there on a protection mission basically?
[11:43.280 -> 11:47.880] Yeah yeah and you were being shot at by other cars? Yeah, two militia cars came up from
[11:47.880 -> 11:53.840] behind with eight gunmen in. There's two of us in the car and that's the
[11:53.840 -> 11:57.400] moment, you know, when the cars came screaming up from behind we didn't
[11:57.400 -> 12:00.520] think much of it at that point, just thought they were trying to get past and
[12:00.520 -> 12:09.560] then light came into the car because the windows has all come down and then AK-47s came out from every window and we realized we're in the shit. And I
[12:09.560 -> 12:13.520] started to go into that flap. I was like, you know, exactly what I'm talking about
[12:13.520 -> 12:16.840] that breathing when you're breathing erratically and your your brain is
[12:16.840 -> 12:20.720] getting so fogged and confused because it's flapping it just wants to take the
[12:20.720 -> 12:26.000] easy way out. But if you take the easy way out, you're gonna push into further danger.
[12:26.000 -> 12:29.480] You know, you can't go that way.
[12:29.480 -> 12:31.160] So really what happened for me in that moment
[12:31.160 -> 12:33.200] was the fact that that was happening
[12:33.200 -> 12:34.440] and I was thinking, holy shit,
[12:34.440 -> 12:36.800] I was getting so bogged down with worrying
[12:36.800 -> 12:39.940] about the people in front, 12 people we were looking after.
[12:39.940 -> 12:43.280] So bogged down with the responsibility of that.
[12:43.280 -> 12:44.880] Then I started to engage in fear,
[12:44.880 -> 12:47.380] all the things that could go wrong.
[12:47.380 -> 12:49.140] Like all these, you know, intelligence reports
[12:49.140 -> 12:50.260] about the cars being pulled over,
[12:50.260 -> 12:52.900] people, you know, executed and everything else.
[12:52.900 -> 12:54.580] I started to think about fear
[12:54.580 -> 12:55.980] and all the things that could go wrong.
[12:55.980 -> 12:58.080] That's what we do as humans, right?
[12:58.080 -> 13:00.660] If we let that fear start to embrace
[13:00.660 -> 13:04.260] or take control of us, we're never gonna be in,
[13:04.260 -> 13:06.680] it's gonna absolutely overwhelm us,
[13:06.680 -> 13:09.360] it's gonna put us in the worst place ever.
[13:09.360 -> 13:11.360] Fear is a mental and emotional rehearsal
[13:11.360 -> 13:12.600] of something you don't wanna happen.
[13:12.600 -> 13:15.200] You can't let it control you, same with any emotion.
[13:15.200 -> 13:16.880] So in that moment, what happened is
[13:16.880 -> 13:18.180] they then started shooting at us.
[13:18.180 -> 13:21.520] Now that did the opposite thing to what you would think,
[13:21.520 -> 13:23.080] and that snapped me out of that.
[13:23.080 -> 13:23.920] It psyched you up for it.
[13:23.920 -> 13:26.860] Yeah, it was like, it clipped me back into my old world.
[13:26.860 -> 13:28.400] And I was like, right, shit.
[13:28.400 -> 13:29.240] I took a breath,
[13:29.240 -> 13:31.780] like it was the first time I breathed in the last minute.
[13:31.780 -> 13:34.480] And that straight away lowered that cortisol,
[13:34.480 -> 13:37.520] gave me that mindset of clarity and not confusion.
[13:37.520 -> 13:39.080] And then I realized there was only one thing
[13:39.080 -> 13:39.920] I had to worry about,
[13:39.920 -> 13:41.200] and that was the people on the back bumper
[13:41.200 -> 13:42.760] that were shooting at us.
[13:42.760 -> 13:44.360] I didn't have to worry about the people in front,
[13:44.360 -> 13:45.760] that sounds quite selfish, but in that moment, they didn't matter. I didn't have to worry about the people in front. That sounds quite selfish,
[13:45.760 -> 13:48.240] but in that moment, they didn't matter.
[13:48.240 -> 13:49.740] I didn't have to worry about all the things
[13:49.740 -> 13:50.700] that could go wrong.
[13:50.700 -> 13:53.040] Again, mental and emotional rehearsal
[13:53.040 -> 13:54.640] for something you don't want to happen.
[13:54.640 -> 13:56.080] You can't let it control you.
[13:57.080 -> 13:58.120] You can't say there's no fear.
[13:58.120 -> 13:59.880] People that say, I haven't got any fear,
[13:59.880 -> 14:02.040] they're either dead or they're dying soon.
[14:02.040 -> 14:03.560] Fear's there for a reason.
[14:03.560 -> 14:05.680] You can't let it control you.
[14:05.680 -> 14:07.360] And in that moment, that was when,
[14:07.360 -> 14:08.480] it snapped me out of that, right,
[14:08.480 -> 14:09.480] I've got to focus on them.
[14:09.480 -> 14:11.280] I've whacked the car into the next lane over,
[14:11.280 -> 14:12.940] let them come in, I boxed them in,
[14:12.940 -> 14:14.240] so they couldn't go anywhere.
[14:14.240 -> 14:16.160] And at that point, I gave the order to open fire
[14:16.160 -> 14:19.300] at 130 Ks an hour on the highway.
[14:19.300 -> 14:22.160] We had this mental gunfight with the militia.
[14:22.160 -> 14:23.400] And we won.
[14:24.440 -> 14:29.000] All I want to do now is just talk about shit like that. Fuck the Formula 1.
[14:29.000 -> 14:38.000] We should do that on track. Get a couple of fucking militia cars in there and make it real.
[14:38.000 -> 14:41.000] They will make some different decisions I bet you.
[14:51.280 -> 14:54.560] But honestly, the reason I think it's important to talk about that is because that is exactly what they have got to control on track.
[14:54.560 -> 14:58.960] I don't need to know who they are to know that they've got to actually go through that.
[14:58.960 -> 15:00.660] They've got to control their breathing.
[15:00.660 -> 15:04.280] They've got to make sure that cortisol is not, you know, you get into a flappy situation
[15:04.280 -> 15:06.240] where you're touching tires and stuff like
[15:06.240 -> 15:11.600] That and you start flapping your breathing becomes erratic next thing you take make a decision or and take an action
[15:12.040 -> 15:15.800] That is just just your brain flapping. You're gonna go the wrong way
[15:15.800 -> 15:22.940] You know, it's about in those moments even when the intensity of this situation is flaring up. You can't go at the same speed
[15:22.940 -> 15:26.040] You've got to pull back and taking that breathing
[15:26.040 -> 15:29.400] or taking that breath and going into box breathing,
[15:29.400 -> 15:31.240] they teach it in yoga, I don't do yoga,
[15:31.240 -> 15:33.140] but I do know that box breathing,
[15:33.140 -> 15:35.680] it's controls that cortisol, it drops the cortisol
[15:35.680 -> 15:38.020] and it allows you to stay at your own speed
[15:38.020 -> 15:40.780] as opposed to being ragged around like a little rag doll.
[15:40.780 -> 15:42.640] You know, so it's exactly the same.
[15:42.640 -> 15:43.800] That makes sense.
[15:43.800 -> 15:46.440] And also you said about like it not being a team sport,
[15:46.440 -> 15:49.960] but again, if you're relying on people in the SES,
[15:49.960 -> 15:52.720] you know your brothers have got your back if you need it.
[15:52.720 -> 15:54.160] These guys are racing against each other,
[15:54.160 -> 15:55.740] they're competing against each other,
[15:55.740 -> 15:58.320] but at the same time, they must have that relationship
[15:58.320 -> 16:00.600] where they know that if they're will to will with someone,
[16:00.600 -> 16:02.920] that person isn't just gonna come and fucking wipe them out.
[16:02.920 -> 16:04.680] Yeah, they all have to have that level of trust.
[16:04.680 -> 16:06.720] So their lives are in everyone else's hands. It's that professional integrity, isn't just gonna come and fucking wipe them out. They all have to have that level of trust. Their lives are in everyone else's hands.
[16:06.720 -> 16:10.880] It's that professional integrity isn't it? But saying I mean at the end of the day
[16:10.880 -> 16:14.480] is very much a team sport because I mean look at the pit stop, the pit crews.
[16:14.480 -> 16:18.640] That fascinates me. We really wanted to get your opinion on that.
[16:18.640 -> 16:22.800] Because these people are so focused. It's unbelievable.
[16:22.800 -> 16:25.200] Any slip of that process
[16:25.200 -> 16:26.520] and everyone not knowing what they,
[16:26.520 -> 16:28.400] someone not knowing what they're doing in that moment
[16:28.400 -> 16:29.400] can cost a second.
[16:29.400 -> 16:31.960] I mean, a second is massive in that,
[16:31.960 -> 16:33.160] at that level, isn't it?
[16:33.160 -> 16:34.080] Yeah, definitely.
[16:34.080 -> 16:36.360] So really, I mean, it is very much a team sport in that,
[16:36.360 -> 16:40.160] but it relies on one person to be the front man, I suppose.
[16:40.160 -> 16:41.080] Yeah.
[16:41.080 -> 16:42.800] No, those pit stops are crazy.
[16:42.800 -> 16:46.380] Again, just like razor focus and we saw it for first time
[16:46.380 -> 16:50.160] But I didn't mean that's what you actually see the pits and we just saw them they ran out
[16:50.160 -> 16:55.580] They're so prepared. Yeah, we got walked into like that. Yeah, see it get done in that and yeah, I'm sure no idea
[16:55.580 -> 16:57.580] Yeah, we don't know
[16:58.100 -> 17:01.380] We have no idea how we've managed to wangle some of the stuff we have already
[17:02.020 -> 17:05.720] It's been pretty weird. We had a mission today to actually get you
[17:05.720 -> 17:07.940] to get as F1 tickets.
[17:07.940 -> 17:10.240] So I don't think they're going to be able to do that.
[17:10.240 -> 17:11.080] Oh yeah.
[17:11.080 -> 17:11.920] Silverstone.
[17:11.920 -> 17:12.740] Silverstone.
[17:12.740 -> 17:14.760] Well, we can ask everyone we know.
[17:14.760 -> 17:15.600] Yeah, do, do.
[17:15.600 -> 17:17.440] We can ask everyone.
[17:17.440 -> 17:19.040] I'm surprised you're not in luck already.
[17:19.040 -> 17:21.460] We won't have to peel your fingernails back
[17:21.460 -> 17:22.960] with a set of pliers afterwards.
[17:22.960 -> 17:24.280] Because that won the plan.
[17:24.280 -> 17:26.360] That's the final challenge.
[17:26.360 -> 17:28.240] Yeah, we don't know what the final challenge is.
[17:28.240 -> 17:29.080] Yeah.
[17:29.080 -> 17:29.920] The people listen to a book.
[17:29.920 -> 17:33.160] That was it, but you know what you've got to do now.
[17:33.160 -> 17:34.600] Have we said about this challenge thing that we're doing?
[17:34.600 -> 17:35.560] Yeah, I'm going to do it.
[17:35.560 -> 17:38.000] So after this, we're taking on,
[17:38.000 -> 17:40.440] well, we're taking on Breakpoint, I guess that's,
[17:40.440 -> 17:42.360] and we're going to be going up against,
[17:42.360 -> 17:43.240] well, I'm up against Fab.
[17:43.240 -> 17:44.160] We've got three challenges.
[17:44.160 -> 17:45.160] It'll all be on the YouTube.
[17:45.160 -> 17:46.320] This is a bonus episode,
[17:46.320 -> 17:48.080] but the video will be up with this.
[17:48.080 -> 17:50.560] So go on to our YouTube, Pit Stop, Jake and Fab.
[17:50.560 -> 17:51.640] Just go and watch that.
[17:51.640 -> 17:52.880] You're going to enjoy it.
[17:52.880 -> 17:54.120] Well, I'm saying that now.
[17:54.120 -> 17:54.960] I have no idea what's going to happen.
[17:54.960 -> 17:55.800] They'll enjoy watching it.
[17:55.800 -> 17:58.200] I don't know if we're going to be enjoying doing it.
[17:58.200 -> 17:59.600] We're going to enjoy it.
[17:59.600 -> 18:00.440] Yeah?
[18:00.440 -> 18:01.440] Yeah.
[18:01.440 -> 18:03.560] Break point, the break point stuff, we're going to enjoy it.
[18:03.560 -> 18:04.400] Yeah, okay.
[18:04.400 -> 18:05.960] We love seeing you in pain.
[18:05.960 -> 18:08.600] That's fine. It's going to be brutal.
[18:10.200 -> 18:12.220] Yeah. Another point I wanted to bring up was
[18:12.220 -> 18:14.440] you guys use the slogan, like cheerfulness
[18:14.440 -> 18:16.380] in the face of adversity.
[18:16.380 -> 18:18.280] Lewis Hamilton's going through a bit of a terrible time.
[18:18.280 -> 18:22.060] But yeah, he still always seems to be like positive
[18:22.060 -> 18:25.440] and carry that vibe for everything that he does,
[18:25.440 -> 18:26.560] which I think is really interesting
[18:26.560 -> 18:28.280] because if I'm having a bad day,
[18:28.280 -> 18:30.880] like I'm like a probably like a piece of shit
[18:30.880 -> 18:32.280] when I come home from work, aren't I?
[18:32.280 -> 18:33.900] Well, it's also significantly hard for him
[18:33.900 -> 18:35.760] because he's got to deal with that
[18:35.760 -> 18:37.880] also being one of the biggest sportsmen in the world.
[18:37.880 -> 18:39.800] You're being judged, you're just a person,
[18:39.800 -> 18:41.400] maybe we just go normal people.
[18:41.400 -> 18:42.960] He has a lot of influence.
[18:42.960 -> 18:44.880] I just don't believe he would be who he was
[18:44.880 -> 18:46.340] if he wasn't that of that
[18:46.340 -> 18:50.820] Mindset so you can't expect someone just to be positive when things are going well, of course, you're positive
[18:50.820 -> 18:54.900] It's when you are in a shit situation. You can be positive in that
[18:54.900 -> 18:58.940] It's the only thing that's going to get you out because what people tend to do is you would then
[18:59.260 -> 19:03.280] Focus on how much you hate something if you focus on how much you hate about yourself
[19:03.420 -> 19:08.300] How much you hate about the environment you focus on how much you hate about yourself, how much you hate about the environment, the situation, the bigger that becomes. You
[19:08.300 -> 19:11.220] know what I mean? So it's really important in those moments that you don't do that.
[19:11.220 -> 19:15.780] And you have to focus and sometimes be unrealistic in your mind about what's
[19:15.780 -> 19:19.560] happened and where you want to be. Like I was going through mental health issues
[19:19.560 -> 19:23.260] and the only thing that got me through that at that point was not thinking I
[19:23.260 -> 19:28.160] hate this, I hate myself, da da da da da. The more I did that, me through that at that point was not thinking I hate this I hate myself I did it the more I did that the bigger that became and the only way I
[19:28.160 -> 19:31.480] got through that I say right what do I want to look and feel like what do I
[19:31.480 -> 19:36.000] want you know and create that vision create that visualization of who that
[19:36.000 -> 19:39.400] person looked like who that and what that felt like and that's the one thing
[19:39.400 -> 19:51.700] that will pull you through that so yeah know, it's so important being positive in a absolutely brilliant situation is, you know, I mean, it's easy to do.
[19:51.700 -> 19:54.400] Yeah, but that's when it really matters.
[19:54.400 -> 19:59.000] It's having that, it's having that mindset that regardless of what
[19:59.000 -> 20:02.000] happens, you're going to focus on the silver lining, you know, I mean,
[20:02.000 -> 20:03.300] and that is so, so important.
[20:03.300 -> 20:07.480] I think every top, you know, top tier sports person
[20:07.480 -> 20:09.460] and certainly anyone in the special forces
[20:09.460 -> 20:10.780] is of that mindset, you know,
[20:10.780 -> 20:14.860] and also the fact that failure is a weapon.
[20:15.760 -> 20:16.880] You got to understand that, you know,
[20:16.880 -> 20:20.220] and it's in this world where people are faking perfection.
[20:20.220 -> 20:22.180] You know, I actually call it Egogram.
[20:22.180 -> 20:23.020] Good.
[20:23.020 -> 20:23.860] Yeah, I agree.
[20:23.860 -> 20:27.000] Everything online is fake. You know, It's like everyone is faking perfection.
[20:27.000 -> 20:28.000] I agree.
[20:28.000 -> 20:32.200] And it's creating this very false world because then everyone that aspires to be like someone
[20:32.200 -> 20:37.360] else that's successful has got this perfect picture, this picture of perfection.
[20:37.360 -> 20:41.080] But they've got to, you know, if kids or anyone really, but kids, especially kids, because
[20:41.080 -> 20:44.920] they're growing up into this, if they could understand that failure is an absolute weapon.
[20:44.920 -> 20:46.600] I'm going to keep on failing for the rest of my life
[20:46.600 -> 20:48.000] because I know my goals are big enough.
[20:48.000 -> 20:50.200] My books are all about failing.
[20:50.200 -> 20:51.500] You know, I mean, it's all about the failures.
[20:51.500 -> 20:53.600] What did we learn? Three points.
[20:53.600 -> 20:55.400] What went well? What didn't go well?
[20:55.400 -> 20:58.200] What am I going to do differently if it happens again?
[20:58.200 -> 21:00.600] You know, I mean, it's about having those debriefs and those points,
[21:00.600 -> 21:01.700] but the people that then go,
[21:01.700 -> 21:03.400] oh, this is shit, I'm not good enough
[21:03.400 -> 21:06.400] and I'm going to go back to where I was because that's safe.
[21:06.400 -> 21:08.200] They're the people that just, they've gone in life
[21:08.200 -> 21:09.200] and then later in life go,
[21:09.200 -> 21:10.520] I can't believe how shit my life is.
[21:10.520 -> 21:11.720] Yeah, I wish I'd have done something else.
[21:11.720 -> 21:13.720] Yeah, but it's just about those points.
[21:13.720 -> 21:14.920] What did I learn?
[21:14.920 -> 21:16.080] You know, and if you don't fail,
[21:16.080 -> 21:17.680] you're not working hard enough and that's the thing.
[21:17.680 -> 21:18.520] What are you gonna do?
[21:18.520 -> 21:20.800] Tiptoe through life until you die.
[21:20.800 -> 21:21.640] Yeah, it's like short-
[21:21.640 -> 21:22.600] Unfortunately, a lot of people are.
[21:22.600 -> 21:24.560] Short-term discomfort for long-term gain,
[21:24.560 -> 21:26.180] I hear people say all the time.
[21:26.180 -> 21:27.020] That's it.
[21:27.020 -> 21:29.240] That's break points bloody,
[21:29.240 -> 21:30.920] we're spreading weird changes in the world.
[21:30.920 -> 21:32.000] Oh shit, that's where I saw it.
[21:32.000 -> 21:32.840] Yeah, on the break point website.
[21:32.840 -> 21:34.880] Short term discomfort, long term gain.
[21:34.880 -> 21:35.720] Look.
[21:35.720 -> 21:37.640] I don't know if this was back when I was all moored out.
[21:37.640 -> 21:38.480] Are you joking?
[21:38.480 -> 21:39.320] It's a criminal messaging.
[21:39.320 -> 21:41.240] You didn't even know that was there.
[21:41.240 -> 21:42.080] You're joking.
[21:42.080 -> 21:43.400] He's seen it, he's seen it already.
[21:43.400 -> 21:53.840] I've seen it, it registered. I've seen it everywhere. I think I know who's going to win the challenge.
[21:53.840 -> 21:54.840] Oh, well, you.
[21:54.840 -> 21:55.840] Oh God.
[21:55.840 -> 21:56.840] But that is it.
[21:56.840 -> 21:57.840] It's all about short.
[21:57.840 -> 21:58.840] That's what break point is all about.
[21:58.840 -> 22:07.840] Cause people, you know, actually when we first started this business, people wanted us to change the name
[22:07.840 -> 22:11.340] of like, look at the world you come from, look at the name of the business and it does
[22:11.340 -> 22:15.240] it creates a breakpoint for, yeah, we're going to break but it's not, it's about a mental
[22:15.240 -> 22:19.800] breakthrough. It's about those moments of opportunity when things are getting tough,
[22:19.800 -> 22:24.960] where you keep pushing into that discomfort in line with the chosen goal. You know what
[22:24.960 -> 22:25.720] I mean?
[22:25.720 -> 22:30.760] It's just understanding that if you want any kind of a success in life, any kind of to
[22:30.760 -> 22:34.200] change anything, whether that could be negative habits or doing something that's pretty much
[22:34.200 -> 22:37.680] out there, you're going to go through a level of discomfort.
[22:37.680 -> 22:41.720] Nothing was ever great unless at some point you doubted your ability to do it.
[22:41.720 -> 22:44.960] So it's really about pushing through that short-term discomfort, long-term gain.
[22:44.960 -> 22:46.900] And again, the way that people are wired
[22:46.900 -> 22:52.620] We're wired the opposite way to take short-term comfort, but that leads to long-term pain that can be relationships
[22:53.740 -> 23:01.360] Drugs alcohol whatever is that can be all the manner of those things or a combination of but we are wired to take short-term
[23:01.360 -> 23:06.420] Comfort we are wires to take the path of least resistance and to conserve energy.
[23:06.420 -> 23:08.220] That is our survival instinct.
[23:08.220 -> 23:09.660] Once you start to understand that
[23:09.660 -> 23:11.740] and realize it's not just you,
[23:11.740 -> 23:13.960] and it's, you know, we become very insular
[23:13.960 -> 23:14.900] when we start to fail
[23:14.900 -> 23:17.020] and when we start to have mental health issues,
[23:17.020 -> 23:18.820] we feel lack of motivation and everything else.
[23:18.820 -> 23:21.780] But it's just, once you understand the way we're wired,
[23:21.780 -> 23:23.300] it changes everything.
[23:23.300 -> 23:25.560] Like I always say, and this will relate
[23:25.560 -> 23:27.560] because it relates to engines, but.
[23:27.560 -> 23:29.120] Oh, we know nothing about engines.
[23:29.120 -> 23:30.440] Well, I do know a little bit.
[23:30.440 -> 23:31.640] You probably know more about us than the audience.
[23:31.640 -> 23:33.240] I hope I do, I hope I do.
[23:33.240 -> 23:35.600] And I'm not being disrespectful there.
[23:35.600 -> 23:36.440] I know, that's right.
[23:36.440 -> 23:37.280] We're a bit weird.
[23:37.280 -> 23:38.800] I do know a bit more about engines
[23:38.800 -> 23:40.600] and with all the things I've got toys.
[23:40.600 -> 23:42.240] But really at the end of the day,
[23:42.240 -> 23:44.200] a mechanic can't fix a motorbike, a car,
[23:44.200 -> 23:47.560] he can't get it running to the best of its ability, unless he knows how the
[23:47.560 -> 23:50.600] machine works. It's the same with anything, it's the same with the computer, isn't it?
[23:50.600 -> 23:55.240] We're no different. Humans are no different. Once we understand how we work
[23:55.240 -> 23:59.400] and why we do the things that we do, we start to get an understanding. It's like,
[23:59.400 -> 24:03.480] it's like exposing our weaknesses. Going back to that thing, if we're always
[24:03.480 -> 24:05.160] faking perfection and we're never prepared to expose our weaknesses. Going back to that thing, if we're always faking perfection
[24:05.160 -> 24:07.160] and we're never prepared to expose our weaknesses,
[24:07.160 -> 24:09.080] it's like having a thief in your house
[24:09.080 -> 24:10.560] that you've got locked in the inside
[24:10.560 -> 24:13.480] and is thieving from it for the rest of your life.
[24:13.480 -> 24:14.800] And you don't expose him.
[24:14.800 -> 24:16.000] You know, that's exactly the same thing.
[24:16.000 -> 24:17.280] You have to expose your weaknesses.
[24:17.280 -> 24:19.680] Otherwise, you just don't go anywhere.
[24:19.680 -> 24:22.640] You just create this picture of perfection
[24:22.640 -> 24:27.300] and your whole aim in life is to create a perception of happiness and all good
[24:27.300 -> 24:29.300] and everything else for the audience.
[24:29.600 -> 24:30.300] Not for you.
[24:30.700 -> 24:32.400] Yeah, I think like most people do that.
[24:32.400 -> 24:33.000] These they do.
[24:33.000 -> 24:33.400] They do.
[24:33.400 -> 24:36.800] It's like everyone everyone's we become the byproducts.
[24:37.200 -> 24:40.000] Oh, I mean think about if people go and this is true as well
[24:40.000 -> 24:42.000] with people going lad an amazing job or people go and do
[24:42.000 -> 24:42.400] something cool.
[24:42.400 -> 24:44.400] The first thing they do is whack on Facebook the best fight.
[24:44.400 -> 24:45.900] You're not ringing someone or not me
[24:49.660 -> 24:51.660] They don't put any of the shit on it
[24:51.960 -> 24:59.360] But it's it's so bad for relationships because yeah, especially because you know girls or boys see stuff online. That isn't real or
[24:59.980 -> 25:06.040] Expect this relationship to be like that and if you're following these celebrities and millions of pounds that are doing these crazy holidays,
[25:06.040 -> 25:07.160] you're like, oh, my boyfriend.
[25:07.160 -> 25:08.240] Don't do that for me.
[25:08.240 -> 25:09.080] It's comparison.
[25:09.080 -> 25:11.440] It's such a toxic world.
[25:11.440 -> 25:13.200] And especially for like younger people,
[25:13.200 -> 25:15.960] it's so important that they're able to switch it out.
[25:15.960 -> 25:16.880] I mean, I'm quite lucky.
[25:16.880 -> 25:18.320] I've done social media for so long.
[25:18.320 -> 25:20.880] I've watched the change of how it's worked,
[25:20.880 -> 25:21.720] how everyone's done it.
[25:21.720 -> 25:24.600] And I look at it and even I'm like, this is ridiculous.
[25:24.600 -> 25:26.960] But a lot of young people are growing into this now and they haven't been there throughout the stage of when it wasn worked, how everyone's done it, and I look at it and even I'm like, this is ridiculous. But a lot of young people are growing into this now
[25:26.960 -> 25:28.520] and they haven't been there throughout the stage
[25:28.520 -> 25:30.000] of when it wasn't like that.
[25:30.000 -> 25:30.840] And now it's just normal.
[25:30.840 -> 25:31.680] And now it's just the real world.
[25:31.680 -> 25:33.200] But the thing is, you've got it right there, Fabio,
[25:33.200 -> 25:34.040] it's comparison.
[25:34.040 -> 25:36.280] The worst thing you can do is comparison
[25:36.280 -> 25:38.080] because a lot of people wanna be that
[25:38.080 -> 25:40.120] and they're so far away from that.
[25:40.120 -> 25:42.040] And they're not prepared when they start comparing
[25:42.040 -> 25:44.240] to actually be honest with where they're at.
[25:44.240 -> 25:45.480] The thing is, if you don't know where you're at,
[25:45.480 -> 25:46.320] you don't know where you're going.
[25:46.320 -> 25:47.160] You're always going to find people
[25:47.160 -> 25:49.320] who are better and better and better in any walk of life.
[25:49.320 -> 25:51.000] So like, if you're constantly comparing yourself
[25:51.000 -> 25:53.080] to other people, then you're never going to be happy.
[25:53.080 -> 25:54.640] I wonder why that is.
[25:54.640 -> 25:55.480] I can't remember what that is.
[25:55.480 -> 25:57.000] I saw that going out of the corner of my eye.
[25:57.000 -> 25:59.360] I was like, fucking hell, he's got remote control.
[25:59.360 -> 26:00.840] Usually, I have some technical errors
[26:00.840 -> 26:02.560] when we do podcasts, that's absolutely fine.
[26:02.560 -> 26:03.760] Yeah, normally it's mic stands.
[26:03.760 -> 26:05.560] Yeah, the mic stands are always falling over.
[26:05.560 -> 26:07.080] They're the things that make the podcast.
[26:07.080 -> 26:08.280] Gives it character.
[26:08.280 -> 26:10.000] How we looking, Matt? Camera set back up?
[26:10.000 -> 26:10.680] Camera's fine.
[26:10.680 -> 26:11.800] Camera's ready to roll.
[26:11.800 -> 26:14.160] The lens was fucking bored of my head.
[26:14.160 -> 26:16.160] Yeah.
[26:16.160 -> 26:17.960] No, I'm so glad we're talking about mental health,
[26:17.960 -> 26:19.920] because that's like the main thing that I've realised
[26:19.920 -> 26:21.080] in Formula One at the minute,
[26:21.080 -> 26:24.520] is how much of a fucking mind game it is for these drivers.
[26:24.520 -> 26:26.420] I don't know if you're aware of like Daniel Ricciardo
[26:27.000 -> 26:29.920] He's like having a bit of a rough time McLaren at the minute
[26:29.920 -> 26:35.740] He's not performing how he should be or how how people think he should be and then his team leader comes out and say yeah
[26:35.740 -> 26:39.840] Then sound comes out and we're not happy with his performance. I imagine he's in that team
[26:39.840 -> 26:50.360] So like the one guy who's meant to be looking out for you is now just how much I know You know how that is that really supposed to help you in that moment? That's gonna fucking absolutely destroy you
[26:50.360 -> 26:50.880] Yeah, yeah
[26:50.880 -> 26:56.680] You know I mean because that's then it starts a self-doubt and everything else and once before you know you lack self-worth and before you
[26:56.680 -> 27:00.120] Know you like not performing and you're so scared not to perform
[27:00.640 -> 27:05.680] To that, you know, you're so you know, I've got to perform that that's the worst thing you
[27:05.680 -> 27:10.440] can do you actually you then operating out of fear on a fear of performance you
[27:10.440 -> 27:13.440] know I mean which you're never gonna get the best of yourself but yeah I mean I
[27:13.440 -> 27:19.280] just can't believe how much it's changed from last year to this year you know the
[27:19.280 -> 27:27.740] difference in performance oh yeah and the cars. Like Hamilton. I mean yeah yeah. All of a sudden I didn't expect that.
[27:27.740 -> 27:33.060] You know I didn't expect, I expected him to, well I expected him to be sort of in
[27:33.060 -> 27:36.220] the front pack. Did you catch the end of last year then? Yeah yeah and I was
[27:36.220 -> 27:39.780] watching quite intensely last year. Yeah when it really peered up in the last race.
[27:39.780 -> 27:45.280] What was your thoughts around that then? Yeah well Verstappen I just love him mate. Yeah me too. You're a Red Bull fan? Yeah well I wouldn just, yeah, well, Verstappen, I just love him, mate.
[27:45.280 -> 27:46.120] Yeah, me too.
[27:46.120 -> 27:47.120] You're a Red Bull fan.
[27:47.120 -> 27:49.640] Yeah, well, I wouldn't say, I just like Verstappen,
[27:49.640 -> 27:51.720] I just like his mindset and everything.
[27:51.720 -> 27:53.800] And that's what I think is important, you know,
[27:53.800 -> 27:55.380] I mean, a lot of people will change their team
[27:55.380 -> 27:58.200] just due to the car, or that looks like a good car,
[27:58.200 -> 27:59.720] start following Ferrari or whatever,
[27:59.720 -> 28:01.760] but I think it's the individual that, you know,
[28:01.760 -> 28:03.440] if you like the individual and, you know,
[28:03.440 -> 28:05.040] the story and everything else, and I just, I just like, the individual that you know, if you like the individual and you know, the story and everything else.
[28:05.040 -> 28:07.520] And I just, I just like, I love that.
[28:07.520 -> 28:10.520] I know there's a lot of controversy, wasn't there,
[28:10.520 -> 28:13.960] about the, that final race, but I think it was...
[28:13.960 -> 28:14.800] Yeah, it was great.
[28:14.800 -> 28:15.620] Can we get in the lounge like that?
[28:15.620 -> 28:16.460] Come on, boys!
[28:16.460 -> 28:17.960] Screaming, screaming.
[28:17.960 -> 28:18.800] Brilliant, it was brilliant.
[28:18.800 -> 28:20.200] We'd only been watching it like two months,
[28:20.200 -> 28:21.040] and we was going mental at the TV, weren't we?
[28:21.040 -> 28:23.720] I think we, us lot must have started at the same time.
[28:23.720 -> 28:26.320] Yeah, yeah, that was exactly when that was exactly when we started watching.
[28:26.320 -> 28:28.800] And I mean, that's why I love the Stappen as well.
[28:28.800 -> 28:30.480] Cause I'm the same as you.
[28:30.480 -> 28:31.840] I thought this guy's great.
[28:31.840 -> 28:32.680] Great personality.
[28:32.680 -> 28:33.520] He's ruthless.
[28:33.520 -> 28:34.960] He gets stuck in.
[28:34.960 -> 28:36.680] Just a great driver.
[28:36.680 -> 28:38.960] And well, yeah, the end of last season was quite interesting.
[28:38.960 -> 28:41.240] A lot of people say it wasn't fair, but it's done now.
[28:41.240 -> 28:42.080] We're into a new season.
[28:42.080 -> 28:42.920] Yeah, it is what it is.
[28:42.920 -> 28:43.760] And yeah, like you said,
[28:43.760 -> 28:45.280] massive change from last season to now. Yeah, it's quite bizarre, isn't it? Do you think it's going to we're into a new season. It is what it is. And yeah like you said massive change from last season to now.
[28:45.280 -> 28:47.440] Yeah it's quite bizarre isn't it?
[28:47.440 -> 28:48.960] Do you think it's going to be a trend that carries on?
[28:48.960 -> 28:52.880] Do you think he's got the minerals to like year after year keep putting in that?
[28:52.880 -> 28:53.880] I don't know.
[28:53.880 -> 29:00.240] I mean at the end of the day you can be the best you know you can be the best physiologically
[29:00.240 -> 29:03.760] if that makes any sense but you know it's the tools isn't it?
[29:03.760 -> 29:07.400] You know if you've got a better car than someone else and the technology and everything,
[29:07.400 -> 29:10.800] you know, it depends on the tools that you've got at hand, doesn't it?
[29:10.800 -> 29:14.000] You know, if your car's not performing, it's... There's so many factors about that,
[29:14.000 -> 29:17.300] you know, it's not just... It's not like someone being a runner, you know,
[29:17.300 -> 29:20.900] the only things they've got to worry about is muscle cramps, really,
[29:20.900 -> 29:23.900] and you know what I mean, a pair of trainers that aren't as good as the last pair,
[29:23.900 -> 29:28.560] but so many factors in something like F1, you've got like a such a high tech piece of
[29:28.560 -> 29:33.040] equipment which can really change everything. Well have you seen the training that they do?
[29:33.600 -> 29:38.320] Yeah. Like with the neck weights? Yeah no exactly yeah. That's pretty brutal. They should come on
[29:38.320 -> 29:42.560] break point. We should get them here. I think they'd be too sick. You know what all the sports
[29:42.560 -> 29:45.640] teams are too scared. Amazing scared. They're too scared.
[29:45.640 -> 29:47.760] An F1 or even an F2 driver.
[29:47.760 -> 29:49.000] Let's set it up to break point.
[29:49.000 -> 29:49.840] Yeah, that's amazing.
[29:49.840 -> 29:50.680] We have a few.
[29:50.680 -> 29:52.560] And we'll just commentate.
[29:52.560 -> 29:54.240] Whilst you go in, I'll never do it.
[29:54.240 -> 29:56.640] Me and Fab, we stood at the back with the mics.
[29:56.640 -> 29:57.840] That'd be genius.
[29:57.840 -> 29:58.680] I'd love that.
[29:58.680 -> 30:00.920] But the thing is, we break, I mean, break point, really,
[30:00.920 -> 30:02.640] I mean, we're going to do something very different
[30:02.640 -> 30:04.400] with you guys to what break point does.
[30:04.400 -> 30:07.460] And we, you know, we used to do a lot of events, public events. We do one
[30:07.460 -> 30:13.040] event now, which there's no pictures in here. Yeah. Denied, which is for the public, but
[30:13.040 -> 30:19.240] it's for really top tier athletes. 36 hours of absolute hell. It's horrible. Like friends
[30:19.240 -> 30:23.000] asked me, I would like to do denied and I'm like, don't do it because we won't be friends
[30:23.000 -> 30:25.200] anymore. You know, it is horrible.
[30:25.200 -> 30:29.500] But the development afterwards in that short period of time is unbelievable.
[30:29.500 -> 30:34.700] 50% pass thereabouts, but the people that pass even the people that don't pass,
[30:34.700 -> 30:39.000] you know, they've such breakthroughs major breakthroughs.
[30:39.000 -> 30:39.500] Really?
[30:39.500 -> 30:40.400] Yeah major breakthroughs.
[30:40.400 -> 30:43.400] But the thing is when we do corporate stuff, it's all about mindset.
[30:43.400 -> 30:49.600] We go and tap into character assessments based on neuroscience and everything.
[30:49.600 -> 30:52.800] We don't, you know, so that's when it comes to, I'm just saying this because if
[30:52.800 -> 30:57.600] any sports team is watching now, any F1, we don't beast people.
[30:57.600 -> 30:59.100] It's all about the mindset.
[30:59.100 -> 31:02.100] So the corporate stuff and the more professional stuff we do, it's not about
[31:02.100 -> 31:04.700] the physical, it's about the mind. Because that's where it all starts.
[31:04.700 -> 31:05.560] I was thinking that today. It's like a lot of questions people ask is like, oh, do it's not about the physical it's about the mind because that's where it all starts I was thinking that today is
[31:05.560 -> 31:09.060] like a lot of questions people ask is like oh is it the mind or the body I'm
[31:09.060 -> 31:13.220] like there's no difference that they're not separate you know I mean they were
[31:13.220 -> 31:17.940] people seem to separate the mind and the body I can't do that without thinking
[31:17.940 -> 31:21.300] first you know I mean I can't do anything without thinking first it's all
[31:21.300 -> 31:29.680] got to work together there's no separation you know so once we start to understand that yeah it helps us all right any f1 drivers
[31:29.680 -> 31:33.280] that's a bit of a tip for you to do this afternoon yeah let's put the shout out
[31:33.280 -> 31:37.720] there to anyone anyone listening I meant for your challenge oh yeah it's all
[31:37.720 -> 31:42.160] about mind and the body okay okay we'll remember that no no I've taken it loads
[31:42.160 -> 31:45.160] I'm ready for this it It's a full 360 approach.
[31:45.160 -> 31:46.660] I'm prepared.
[31:46.660 -> 31:48.660] I don't feel any more confident than I did.
[31:48.660 -> 31:51.720] See Fabio is the realist.
[31:51.720 -> 31:52.560] Yeah.
[31:52.560 -> 31:53.380] You're the optimist.
[31:53.380 -> 31:54.580] Yeah.
[31:54.580 -> 31:55.540] I'm still gonna win.
[31:55.540 -> 31:57.780] But yeah, any F1 drivers out there
[31:57.780 -> 31:59.340] you want to take on the breakpoint challenge,
[31:59.340 -> 32:00.500] hit us up, hit Ollie up.
[32:00.500 -> 32:01.660] We'll set it up.
[32:01.660 -> 32:02.780] It'd be amazing.
[32:02.780 -> 32:03.940] Yeah, we'll do it.
[32:03.940 -> 32:05.360] One question I really wanted to ask you,
[32:05.360 -> 32:06.760] which I come up with in the car,
[32:06.760 -> 32:08.400] I was thinking about it and I was like,
[32:08.400 -> 32:11.760] when you were out doing what you were doing with SBS
[32:11.760 -> 32:13.320] and all these special forces missions,
[32:13.320 -> 32:15.960] and it's so intense and the adrenaline from it,
[32:15.960 -> 32:18.920] I guess is like so much going on at once.
[32:18.920 -> 32:22.640] How do you now get the same adrenaline rush now?
[32:22.640 -> 32:23.720] Is there something you do now
[32:23.720 -> 32:25.440] that brings you the same feeling or do you?
[32:27.080 -> 32:32.560] It's interesting because until I was I never felt settled in the special forces
[32:32.560 -> 32:40.160] I didn't feel settled until my life went spiraling out of control. I hit rock bottom at 43 years old and
[32:40.840 -> 32:45.200] and then I was you know, I had mental health issues and everything else.
[32:45.200 -> 32:48.900] And it was, it was at that moment that my life changed.
[32:48.900 -> 32:53.500] But prior to that moment, I wasn't happy in the Special Forces.
[32:53.500 -> 32:54.600] I wasn't happy in the Royal Marines.
[32:54.600 -> 32:56.900] I wasn't happy with any job I'd chosen.
[32:56.900 -> 32:58.800] I just didn't find my purpose or anything.
[32:58.800 -> 32:59.300] It's like...
[32:59.300 -> 33:00.000] Really?
[33:00.000 -> 33:01.200] Even when you were that high up?
[33:01.200 -> 33:01.500] Yeah.
[33:01.500 -> 33:02.000] No, I didn't.
[33:02.000 -> 33:03.000] You never felt like you had a purpose.
[33:03.000 -> 33:04.800] You know, this has been a dream since I was 14 years old.
[33:04.800 -> 33:07.500] It was like, you know, at school and I went, right, I'm joining the
[33:07.500 -> 33:10.100] Royal Marines and I lost all, I was good at school.
[33:10.100 -> 33:11.800] And then all of a sudden it went gone.
[33:13.600 -> 33:17.100] And because I was just focused on the Royal Marines, but then I got to
[33:17.100 -> 33:20.600] the Royal Marines, you know, I think I'd hyped it up so much in my head
[33:20.900 -> 33:24.300] that the reality of it when I got to it was so far removed from what
[33:24.300 -> 33:28.200] I thought it was and that then pushed me well it must be in the special forces so
[33:28.200 -> 33:33.320] I went and did that and I got there and went well I just didn't feel connected
[33:33.320 -> 33:38.600] to it yeah but so yeah and that's that's why I left and then I started bouncing
[33:38.600 -> 33:42.360] around war zones as a contractor thinking when you say contractor
[33:42.360 -> 33:50.840] mercenary yeah mercenary is a bit of an extreme term really because we were we were working for major infrastructure projects in Iraq
[33:52.000 -> 33:55.440] So we basically had an army of 2,000 Iraqis that worked for us
[33:55.440 -> 34:01.280] We trained him in bodyguard schools and everything else, but basically they call you a mercenary because you you'll fight for anyone
[34:01.880 -> 34:05.400] For a paycheck, okay, but we weren't really doing that as such
[34:05.400 -> 34:11.160] You know, we were putting a lot of money into the Iraqi communities, you know money wise giving him jobs and everything else
[34:11.160 -> 34:16.880] No, very pro Iraqi. So it was an awesome thing to do. But again, you know, I went there
[34:16.880 -> 34:18.400] I was drawn there for the cash
[34:18.400 -> 34:23.720] I am more cash there in two months than I earned in a whole year in the Special Forces. Really?
[34:23.720 -> 34:27.120] Yeah, this is actually yeah, I don't know if we'll go into it, but that's what we were like saying in the
[34:27.120 -> 34:29.040] car was like, would you get paid to be in the SAS?
[34:29.040 -> 34:30.240] Yeah, we had no idea.
[34:30.240 -> 34:34.480] Because you're, I mean, you're like risking your life. I mean, surely there's no price on that.
[34:34.480 -> 34:38.240] Yeah, without saying how much you get paid, but do you get paid for the risk you put in?
[34:38.240 -> 34:41.840] What? Like, I'd expect you got paid hundreds of thousands for doing that shit.
[34:41.840 -> 34:44.560] I got shot at five times today, you're putting for a bonus?
[34:44.560 -> 34:46.720] Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[34:46.720 -> 34:47.220] Like surely.
[34:47.220 -> 34:49.220] I nearly died.
[34:49.220 -> 34:51.220] Alright, extra hundred quid.
[34:53.220 -> 34:54.220] That's what we were thinking.
[34:54.220 -> 34:56.220] Well, I actually thought that would be right.
[34:56.220 -> 34:58.220] Or per task.
[34:58.220 -> 35:00.220] Yeah, well, commission.
[35:00.220 -> 35:02.220] Commission?
[35:04.220 -> 35:17.520] No. Yeah, the fact of the matter is you don't get paid much in the military, you know, my
[35:17.520 -> 35:20.200] wages weren't quite...
[35:20.200 -> 35:21.360] To risk your life though.
[35:21.360 -> 35:25.280] Yeah, but going to Iraq, I mean, Jesus Christ, as a contractor,
[35:25.280 -> 35:30.320] an ex-special forces contractor, and this was back in 2003, you know, like 13,000 a month,
[35:30.320 -> 35:35.840] tax-free, which was even decent, that's decent money today. Yeah, I mean, back in 2003, that
[35:35.840 -> 35:39.680] was absolutely, you know what I mean? It was like coming out of the military. So that was the draw
[35:39.680 -> 35:43.680] card to go over there and do that stuff. But again, I didn't feel connected. We're going back
[35:43.680 -> 35:49.280] to your question. I didn't feel connected. So, and it was only when I came out of there
[35:49.280 -> 35:54.920] when I got away from Iraq because my mental health was going, started getting really bad
[35:54.920 -> 36:00.320] and I need to be out away from a war zone. And then I went to, I said I was never going
[36:00.320 -> 36:04.040] to go back doing anything that would put me in danger. But then I stumbled over something
[36:04.040 -> 36:07.760] that was incredible and that was rescuing kids from child prostitution,
[36:07.760 -> 36:09.400] slavery in Southeast Asia.
[36:09.400 -> 36:11.560] And that was the turning point.
[36:12.420 -> 36:15.080] And the reason I say that is because I didn't go there
[36:15.080 -> 36:16.520] with any intention of finding anything.
[36:16.520 -> 36:17.840] I wasn't even paid for it,
[36:17.840 -> 36:21.760] but it was the most amazing thing I've ever done.
[36:21.760 -> 36:24.680] And the reason for that is the power of helping other people
[36:24.680 -> 36:26.260] is quite incredible.
[36:26.260 -> 36:28.580] And again, this day and age, people are losing that.
[36:28.580 -> 36:31.020] You know, people want more followers on Instagram
[36:31.020 -> 36:32.180] and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[36:32.180 -> 36:33.980] You know, people are prepared to walk over each other
[36:33.980 -> 36:35.820] to get a VIFA position.
[36:35.820 -> 36:38.780] And we're losing the power of helping other people.
[36:38.780 -> 36:40.700] And once you do that, the return on investment,
[36:40.700 -> 36:41.660] I wasn't being paid for that,
[36:41.660 -> 36:43.940] I paid to go there and do it.
[36:43.940 -> 36:50.800] I had a four-man team, and that was the best return on investment. I wasn't being paid for that. I paid to go there and do it. I had a four-man team and that was the best return on investment I've ever had.
[36:50.800 -> 36:57.700] And that would then become the, would underpin and be the DNA and heartbeat of
[36:57.700 -> 37:01.800] what Breakpoint does. And that is we create with, our mission is to create a
[37:01.800 -> 37:06.100] globally identified brand, recognized for the positive growth and development of others.
[37:06.400 -> 37:08.300] It's like in that four-man team.
[37:08.300 -> 37:09.000] What did you do?
[37:09.000 -> 37:10.700] What was a mission like that like for them?
[37:10.700 -> 37:13.300] Well, basically we there was satellite camps where the kids
[37:13.300 -> 37:16.100] were held on the the Thai border.
[37:16.200 -> 37:19.700] So basically they're being held there and then the cartels
[37:19.700 -> 37:22.700] will come up and basically run like it's like a recruitment
[37:22.700 -> 37:25.200] process. Kids will go to the
[37:25.200 -> 37:29.200] fishing villages, they didn't come back from the fishing villages. They went into
[37:29.200 -> 37:32.920] brothels, they went to sweatshops, so it's almost like a recruitment thing. So we
[37:32.920 -> 37:36.200] had to go in there with the cartels, between the cartels, get in there and
[37:36.200 -> 37:41.580] get in there, get the kids out and then get them to an orphanage, which we work
[37:41.580 -> 37:46.600] with in Southeast Asia. So it was just incredible that the work we're doing
[37:46.600 -> 37:50.000] so to get those kids, but then there's a massive
[37:50.000 -> 37:52.500] international incident.
[37:52.500 -> 37:55.000] We had to escape out of Thailand across the Burmese border
[37:55.000 -> 37:57.200] and then or the Thai border.
[37:57.200 -> 37:59.800] And then finally I've made we managed to get back
[37:59.800 -> 38:01.200] to Australia where I was living at the time.
[38:01.200 -> 38:03.100] And that's when I my life fell apart, you know,
[38:03.100 -> 38:05.040] because I'd actually found something that was so
[38:09.940 -> 38:13.720] Amazing for the first time was like that this beat the special forces it be anything I'd ever done in my life I said this I'm gonna be doing this for the rest of my life and then all of a sudden it crashed and burned
[38:13.720 -> 38:19.840] And that for me it was was it wasn't a good place to be drinking drugs, whatever. I was on this path
[38:19.840 -> 38:21.920] Yeah self-destruction and that point
[38:22.920 -> 38:23.520] You know
[38:23.520 -> 38:27.800] It got to a point where I started to think about suicide and stuff like that and little voice in my head said it doesn't end
[38:27.800 -> 38:28.400] like this.
[38:29.000 -> 38:33.700] And at that point I was like, right, that's when I had to cast my mind to where I wanted
[38:33.700 -> 38:36.700] to be and not get focused on where I was at that point moment in time.
[38:36.700 -> 38:39.200] Otherwise, I would become a victim of my circumstances.
[38:39.600 -> 38:40.700] So it's about casting my mind.
[38:40.700 -> 38:42.100] What does this new me look like?
[38:42.100 -> 38:43.000] What does it feel like?
[38:43.000 -> 38:47.100] And it was that journey in my mind that got the physical body to go there
[38:47.100 -> 38:48.880] and get me out of there.
[38:48.880 -> 38:50.800] You know, and that's shortly after that,
[38:50.800 -> 38:52.680] or a couple of years, few years after that,
[38:52.680 -> 38:56.080] I ended up back here before SAS UDAS wins,
[38:56.080 -> 38:59.600] you know, with this one dream about starting Breakpoint.
[38:59.600 -> 39:00.840] I had no money, had no nothing.
[39:00.840 -> 39:01.680] I was locked in a house.
[39:01.680 -> 39:04.320] I put myself into self-isolation for three months.
[39:04.320 -> 39:05.400] And that is when I really started to change the blueprint and feel I was locked in the house. I put myself into self-isolation for three months and that is when I really
[39:05.400 -> 39:08.300] start to change the blueprint and feel I was, you know, start to get rid of
[39:08.300 -> 39:12.200] negative habits, the drink and the drugs and everything else and I made
[39:12.200 -> 39:14.700] the foundation of who I am today.
[39:14.700 -> 39:18.600] Absolutely rock-solid, you know, because I have wanted to start a company
[39:18.600 -> 39:19.400] helping other people.
[39:19.400 -> 39:23.600] Can you imagine what my mind is saying when I'm in that broken state going
[39:23.600 -> 39:24.700] you want to help other people?
[39:24.700 -> 39:26.600] Look at the state. You can't even help yourself.
[39:26.600 -> 39:30.500] You're a loser, all this, you know, all that negative language we have.
[39:30.800 -> 39:32.200] And you have to push that aside.
[39:32.200 -> 39:35.300] You have to be unrealistic with what you want and still follow it.
[39:35.600 -> 39:39.000] And it's about switching off that negative voice and just pushing
[39:39.000 -> 39:40.100] through and that's...
[39:41.300 -> 39:44.200] And then all of a sudden after that, you know, we got the opportunity
[39:44.200 -> 39:46.600] for the TV, which was incredible.
[39:46.600 -> 39:48.600] That was SES Who Dares Wins.
[39:48.600 -> 39:51.800] And really for me, I didn't, I still, I hate the word celebrity.
[39:51.800 -> 39:53.800] It, you know, it doesn't mean anything to me.
[39:53.800 -> 39:56.500] Was celebrity the first one?
[39:56.500 -> 39:57.600] Was it the normal one?
[39:57.600 -> 39:59.300] No, I mean as in me being a celebrity.
[39:59.300 -> 39:59.900] Okay.
[39:59.900 -> 40:00.400] I hate that.
[40:00.400 -> 40:02.200] I don't, I wouldn't say I hate it.
[40:02.200 -> 40:06.800] I just, I'm not, I don't like being, unfortunately I it. I just I'm not I don't like being unfortunately I fit into that realm
[40:06.800 -> 40:10.600] that people say I was a celebrity but really for me, you know,
[40:10.600 -> 40:15.400] I'm my focus is break point and the TV stuff is a sideshow that I'm very
[40:15.400 -> 40:18.500] humbled and very glad to be a part of because it's lifted our business
[40:18.500 -> 40:21.200] up and yeah and give me a voice, you know, that's why I've got four
[40:21.200 -> 40:24.000] books and everything else and I've got a lot I owe to that.
[40:24.000 -> 40:26.040] But my focus is very much breakpoint. Yeah
[40:26.040 -> 40:29.240] I'm glad you're on it because I think there's a lot of people out here who need to hear
[40:29.380 -> 40:32.340] The words that you've just said yeah, so coming from your mouth
[40:32.340 -> 40:37.480] I think people people who are listening and who need to hear that maybe take action now. They've heard it from you
[40:37.480 -> 40:42.400] Yeah, well thing is everyone is capable of changing the lives. I don't care where they are. What you know, how bad it is
[40:42.860 -> 40:47.480] We're all capable of making that change and it starts here you know and I speak from
[40:47.480 -> 40:52.840] experience there so you know everyone can do can do that I think a lot human
[40:52.840 -> 40:57.360] nature again makes us feel that oh this is my life this is who I am this is my
[40:57.360 -> 41:03.880] DNA absolute bullshit all this messaging that we've been taught as kids and they
[41:03.880 -> 41:06.080] all leopard never changes its spots and everything you
[41:06.080 -> 41:09.440] can change you can be who you want to be. It just takes a bit
[41:09.440 -> 41:13.720] of focus and mental positive direction. Great.
[41:14.840 -> 41:16.280] Cool. I feel like I fucking needed that.
[41:16.320 -> 41:17.080] Yeah, well,
[41:17.160 -> 41:18.160] I feel pumped now.
[41:18.200 -> 41:21.400] Yeah, that's probably right. I need to get you pumped for
[41:21.400 -> 41:22.680] what's coming. Yeah, that was
[41:22.720 -> 41:24.160] I'm going in for the selection process.
[41:24.160 -> 41:25.040] Oh, yeah, Fab is desperate journey. Yes, that was... I'm going in for the selection process end of this year.
[41:25.040 -> 41:26.600] Yeah, Fab is desperate to join the SAS.
[41:26.600 -> 41:28.120] I keep telling him it's not happening.
[41:28.120 -> 41:29.640] Well, I've been talking about it,
[41:29.640 -> 41:31.800] maybe because I just watched a load of videos online,
[41:31.800 -> 41:32.640] but I was like, I could do that.
[41:32.640 -> 41:35.440] He sends him all the time, tells me he's gonna join.
[41:35.440 -> 41:36.280] Tells me he's gonna sign us up.
[41:36.280 -> 41:37.120] I'm like, Jake, I was like,
[41:37.120 -> 41:39.800] Jake, the sack pits the poor, let's sign up to the SAS.
[41:39.800 -> 41:40.840] Join the SAS.
[41:40.840 -> 41:42.400] Regimented, yeah.
[41:42.400 -> 41:44.200] Well, all you have to do is fill in the application,
[41:44.200 -> 41:52.480] do a little quiz and... And you long journey that's the point you know I mean it's you've got a
[41:52.480 -> 41:57.240] military experience before so the call of duty doesn't count them call of duty
[41:57.240 -> 42:10.840] doesn't know not really no bit of instinct maybe from it yeah yeah exactly reaction time fairly slow yeah it's probably just
[42:10.840 -> 42:19.840] not not worth me signing up one final thing before we end the podcast I just
[42:19.840 -> 42:22.680] wanted to say we don't have to go into the whole story because you've probably
[42:22.680 -> 42:25.140] spoke about a thousand times your Your chimp story is mad.
[42:26.020 -> 42:26.860] That is mad.
[42:26.860 -> 42:27.920] You know what, I love that story.
[42:27.920 -> 42:31.640] I do love the chimp story because it is something
[42:31.640 -> 42:34.880] that I only dealt with a couple of years ago
[42:34.880 -> 42:36.640] and it changed my life.
[42:36.640 -> 42:39.320] I went to Costa Rica and did an IOSCA.
[42:39.320 -> 42:40.720] IOSCA, yeah.
[42:40.720 -> 42:43.240] Oh yeah, so that's where it like brings it back.
[42:43.240 -> 42:45.000] And that's how you dealt with it?
[42:45.000 -> 42:48.000] Really? And up until that point, it always fucked you up or in the head?
[42:48.000 -> 42:53.000] It not because it's when it comes to trauma, that leads to like mental health issues.
[42:53.000 -> 42:56.000] It's like a that's like a silent assassin that you know,
[42:56.000 -> 43:01.000] I very quickly give the people a quick 30 seconds of that story so they can understand what happened.
[43:01.000 -> 43:05.000] So basically I was 10 years old and I was at the circus.
[43:05.000 -> 43:07.300] I ended up being, they were just setting up.
[43:07.300 -> 43:09.260] I was somewhere where I shouldn't have been,
[43:09.260 -> 43:12.540] being an annoying, inquisitive little 10 year old.
[43:12.540 -> 43:15.000] And then, you know, before I knew it, I was like,
[43:16.580 -> 43:17.840] there's this little baby chimp.
[43:17.840 -> 43:20.220] I was there like, oh, amazing baby chimp.
[43:20.220 -> 43:21.960] And it was feeding me and everything.
[43:21.960 -> 43:23.280] I was like, brilliant.
[43:23.280 -> 43:24.400] It's amazing.
[43:24.400 -> 43:25.640] It was passing me this food. It was like, it's brilliant. It's amazing. It was passing me this food.
[43:25.640 -> 43:28.680] It was just like, the moment was just incredible.
[43:28.680 -> 43:30.440] Timeless, it was timeless.
[43:30.440 -> 43:31.280] I was on my own.
[43:31.280 -> 43:32.240] It was this open expanse.
[43:32.240 -> 43:35.160] It was closed in around the back of the circus.
[43:35.160 -> 43:37.000] And then all of a sudden there was like a noise
[43:37.000 -> 43:39.440] and it was like a fighter jet screaming through the sky.
[43:39.440 -> 43:42.860] This moment of serenity was cut by this roar
[43:42.860 -> 43:44.240] that I'll never forget to this day.
[43:44.240 -> 43:45.360] And I could just
[43:45.360 -> 43:48.440] see something moving in the shadows behind and that was mummy or daddy who
[43:48.440 -> 43:53.880] wasn't happy, clearly. And then it started heading to me at Mac 10
[43:53.880 -> 43:58.040] going absolutely mental. It was about 50 kilograms. I didn't get a chance to
[43:58.040 -> 44:03.720] fucking weigh it but it was big. And the thing pounced about 20 foot through the air.
[44:03.720 -> 44:05.040] Yeah they can jump.
[44:05.040 -> 44:07.040] Yeah, and like landed on my chest,
[44:07.040 -> 44:08.200] pinned me to the floor.
[44:08.200 -> 44:10.040] So it's literally you're on the floor
[44:10.040 -> 44:10.880] and it's on top of you.
[44:10.880 -> 44:12.320] On top of me, yeah, on my chest.
[44:12.320 -> 44:13.160] I'm 10 years old, yeah,
[44:13.160 -> 44:14.760] and it's beating the shit out of me.
[44:14.760 -> 44:15.600] Yeah.
[44:15.600 -> 44:17.200] It's just like a drummer in a rock band
[44:17.200 -> 44:19.360] with his fist coming down to my chest,
[44:19.360 -> 44:21.040] and then it started biting me.
[44:21.040 -> 44:22.560] Blood starts flying everywhere.
[44:22.560 -> 44:24.120] There's bits being ripped off me.
[44:24.120 -> 44:27.480] And it was that moment that my life started,
[44:27.480 -> 44:28.960] my life lashed in front of me.
[44:28.960 -> 44:30.600] It didn't take long because I was fucking 10.
[44:30.600 -> 44:31.440] It was a little tough.
[44:31.440 -> 44:36.440] But in that moment I had to do something.
[44:38.640 -> 44:40.320] But in that moment I had to do something.
[44:40.320 -> 44:41.160] You know what I mean?
[44:41.160 -> 44:42.080] It was instinctive at that point.
[44:42.080 -> 44:44.040] And I took the fight to the chimp at 10.
[44:44.040 -> 44:46.000] And that's really that, you know,
[44:46.000 -> 44:47.080] and basically what happened,
[44:47.080 -> 44:48.440] I got a manuscript, my knee up to my chest,
[44:48.440 -> 44:51.640] I smashed out as hard as possible into the chimp,
[44:51.640 -> 44:52.800] knocked it to the floor.
[44:52.800 -> 44:55.480] And that gave me a few seconds just to get out of there.
[44:55.480 -> 44:56.840] I was racing across on my back,
[44:56.840 -> 44:58.260] trying to get away as I'm looking up,
[44:58.260 -> 45:00.080] this thing's getting to its feet
[45:00.080 -> 45:02.040] and it's like angrier than ever.
[45:02.040 -> 45:02.880] You know what I mean?
[45:02.880 -> 45:04.160] It's like so angry now.
[45:04.160 -> 45:05.880] It's like coming at me final attack and it just pelted at me. You know what I mean? It's like so angry now, it's like coming at me final attack
[45:05.880 -> 45:07.600] and it just pelted at me
[45:07.600 -> 45:09.360] and then it got to about there
[45:09.360 -> 45:11.680] and the chain caught it down the neck.
[45:11.680 -> 45:12.640] And if it wasn't for the chain,
[45:12.640 -> 45:14.520] I wouldn't be telling the story.
[45:14.520 -> 45:18.720] But that for me is break point.
[45:18.720 -> 45:20.320] And that was my first break point.
[45:20.320 -> 45:21.280] And the reason I say that,
[45:21.280 -> 45:22.360] and I always use that story,
[45:22.360 -> 45:23.760] especially in my corporate stuff,
[45:23.760 -> 45:26.840] is the fact that that is short-term discomfort long-term gain
[45:26.840 -> 45:31.000] short-term discomfort ten years old finding a chimp long-term gain the facts
[45:31.000 -> 45:35.520] I'm telling the story and also the fact no matter how bad your situation is you
[45:35.520 -> 45:39.080] always have choices. I think it says a lot about you as a person though because if I
[45:39.080 -> 45:44.480] think me as a ten-year-old like I can't imagine myself well I can't imagine myself having a chimp attack.
[45:44.480 -> 45:46.520] I think you'd be surprised though
[45:46.520 -> 45:48.520] Do you reckon everyone has it in them somewhere?
[45:48.520 -> 45:50.520] Yeah, should I mention about these challenges?
[45:50.520 -> 45:52.520] Yeah
[45:52.520 -> 45:54.520] Oh well, we'll have to find out
[45:54.520 -> 45:56.520] It's a fucking giant chip next to you
[45:56.520 -> 45:58.520] Oh my god, imagine that
[45:58.520 -> 46:00.520] That'd be brilliant wouldn't it
[46:00.520 -> 46:02.520] Or just a guy in a monkey suit
[46:02.520 -> 46:04.520] So anyway, the Ayahuasca
[46:04.520 -> 46:05.000] What were we saying?
[46:05.000 -> 46:07.000] Yeah, I know. I've heard of the story. It's fucking amazing.
[46:07.000 -> 46:09.000] Yeah, yeah, so where were we going before? You said tell everyone about the...
[46:09.000 -> 46:11.000] I can't remember where we were going with it.
[46:11.000 -> 46:13.000] Yeah, so the thing that brings it back or whatever it was.
[46:13.000 -> 46:26.360] Yeah, I think... Oh, yeah, yeah, the fact of the matter, when you go through something like a traumatic event, when you have, you know, and everyone, if they haven't yet, you will do at some point, go through a traumatic event, but childhood trauma is probably one of the worst
[46:26.360 -> 46:28.420] because you're like a sponge.
[46:28.420 -> 46:29.920] So really for me at 10 years old,
[46:29.920 -> 46:31.960] being attacked by that chimp,
[46:31.960 -> 46:34.840] one thing that you do, again,
[46:34.840 -> 46:37.600] it's like a self-preservation mechanism
[46:37.600 -> 46:39.960] is to be able to lock away the intimate trauma.
[46:40.840 -> 46:43.140] And that helps you get through the short term.
[46:44.500 -> 46:47.680] We lock it away, push it to one side, but you can't leave it locked to one side
[46:48.040 -> 46:52.100] It's got to be dealt with at some stage and I didn't deal with it. So that then
[46:52.960 -> 46:56.680] Started seeping out all the way through my life, you know, I mean when I look back
[46:57.400 -> 47:00.840] You know hindsight never won any wars, but it's good for reflection
[47:00.880 -> 47:08.640] It made me realize how significant that chimp attack was and how much it reflected in so many aspects of my life. Some positive because
[47:08.640 -> 47:12.080] someone asked a great question and that's, do you think if you hadn't been
[47:12.080 -> 47:15.740] attacked by the chimp that you would have got through Special Forces selection?
[47:15.740 -> 47:19.360] I've never, I don't know the answer to that but you know what I mean, it's like, it did
[47:19.360 -> 47:24.720] give me that like, I was just absolutely had this raging war with inside, inside
[47:24.720 -> 47:27.640] of me that helped me in some situations,
[47:27.640 -> 47:30.900] but in sort of a more normal environment,
[47:30.900 -> 47:31.940] wasn't that great.
[47:31.940 -> 47:32.780] You know what I mean?
[47:32.780 -> 47:35.680] It's a lack of consequence.
[47:35.680 -> 47:40.080] I just wanted to chase danger everywhere.
[47:40.080 -> 47:41.280] Because it's one of them situations
[47:41.280 -> 47:42.700] you experienced so young.
[47:42.700 -> 47:44.500] It is a situation you look at and you're like,
[47:44.500 -> 47:46.600] well, a 10 year old loses that.
[47:46.600 -> 47:48.440] Really, a fully grown chimp, you look at that
[47:48.440 -> 47:51.040] and you're like, well, that's death really.
[47:51.040 -> 47:53.160] So the fact that you've gone through that so young
[47:53.160 -> 47:54.520] and like got out of it,
[47:54.520 -> 47:56.840] and yeah, you lost a bit of your arms in the or something,
[47:56.840 -> 47:59.600] like it was, and it was like really traumatic or whatever,
[47:59.600 -> 48:00.680] but you did it so young
[48:00.680 -> 48:02.320] that you've probably lived all the way till now
[48:02.320 -> 48:05.520] with that feeling of it's happened to me
[48:05.520 -> 48:11.320] So yeah, we'll never fear that. No, no, probably never get a moment like that. No, no, no exactly
[48:11.320 -> 48:14.760] I hope they don't but you know, you went to this place didn't you that bring?
[48:14.760 -> 48:18.040] Yeah, no, it's what to the thing is going back to the trauma thing though
[48:18.040 -> 48:22.640] I think it's important to say that a lot of people fight to be who they were before the traumatic event
[48:22.640 -> 48:27.680] You're not that person anymore. Yeah it's so important you surrender to that
[48:27.680 -> 48:30.320] and stop fighting for someone you no longer are.
[48:30.320 -> 48:31.440] You're just not that person.
[48:31.440 -> 48:33.520] The trauma has changed you.
[48:33.520 -> 48:34.680] So you are no longer,
[48:34.680 -> 48:37.180] the more you fight to be who you were,
[48:37.180 -> 48:38.880] the more frustrating and the more,
[48:39.960 -> 48:41.760] you're just not gonna get anywhere.
[48:41.760 -> 48:44.040] It's just gonna be a really hard road for you.
[48:44.040 -> 48:47.280] So it's about accepting the fact that that's changed you and accept the new and
[48:47.960 -> 48:48.960] that I
[48:48.960 -> 48:51.520] when you relate that to the real world at the moment same with
[48:52.440 -> 48:56.480] Lockdowns and coat, you know people that are fighting to the life we had before
[48:57.280 -> 49:01.840] You know, I mean the people that have done that I've probably lost their businesses and everything else, you know
[49:01.840 -> 49:06.400] You can this it's no longer that way. Yeah know, there's a lot of things have changed.
[49:06.400 -> 49:07.440] But anyway, moving on.
[49:07.440 -> 49:10.140] But ayahuasca really took me back.
[49:10.140 -> 49:12.440] It took me back to that 10 year old experience.
[49:12.440 -> 49:13.900] And it was a crazy experience.
[49:13.900 -> 49:15.000] I actually became the chimp.
[49:15.000 -> 49:15.840] So does it really work?
[49:15.840 -> 49:16.680] So you're actually there.
[49:16.680 -> 49:17.500] 100% mate.
[49:17.500 -> 49:18.880] Because you're such a level-headed guy.
[49:18.880 -> 49:19.920] I'm looking at you and I'm like,
[49:19.920 -> 49:21.200] if you're telling me it works,
[49:21.200 -> 49:22.040] then I'm thinking, oh.
[49:22.040 -> 49:22.860] It works, 100%.
[49:22.860 -> 49:24.040] I went with a load of veterans.
[49:24.040 -> 49:26.500] You said you surrendered and you actually let yourself die in it.
[49:26.500 -> 49:29.400] And yeah, and you you became spirit, a fucking spirit.
[49:29.400 -> 49:29.700] Yeah.
[49:29.700 -> 49:30.600] How does that even feel?
[49:30.600 -> 49:31.200] What does it look like?
[49:31.200 -> 49:31.600] What is it?
[49:31.600 -> 49:32.000] Amazing.
[49:32.000 -> 49:32.900] I didn't want to come back.
[49:33.400 -> 49:33.800] I've heard you.
[49:33.800 -> 49:34.500] I've heard that before.
[49:34.500 -> 49:35.100] I didn't want to come back.
[49:35.100 -> 49:35.800] It was just like this.
[49:35.800 -> 49:39.200] It was just like this world where you're no longer a person.
[49:39.200 -> 49:41.700] It was just I was in this spirit world and it was just noises and
[49:41.700 -> 49:43.400] sounds and colors and everything.
[49:43.400 -> 49:45.560] It was just like unbelievable. It felt and everything. It was just like unbelievable.
[49:45.560 -> 49:47.080] It felt just amazing.
[49:47.080 -> 49:48.000] It was just brilliant.
[49:48.000 -> 49:50.320] And I didn't want to come back.
[49:50.320 -> 49:51.240] I was like, this is me.
[49:51.240 -> 49:52.040] I'm not going back.
[49:52.040 -> 49:55.720] And then the voice again, my head said it was like, people need you.
[49:56.400 -> 50:01.840] And then I came back into my physical body and, uh, and, and yeah, it was just,
[50:01.840 -> 50:03.000] it was just amazing.
[50:03.000 -> 50:06.840] But for me, it was like I was fighting against
[50:06.840 -> 50:08.640] dealing with the chimp, even when I was under,
[50:08.640 -> 50:10.800] like taking the medicine, which is,
[50:10.800 -> 50:14.060] it's a psychedelic, centuries old.
[50:15.240 -> 50:20.240] It's a plant, it's a mixture of two plants together
[50:20.380 -> 50:22.360] that they make into a tea,
[50:22.360 -> 50:24.480] which is then highly hallucinogenic.
[50:24.480 -> 50:27.600] So it takes you to a clearly different world.
[50:27.600 -> 50:32.700] And you know, for me, I it was so important for me because I went back
[50:32.700 -> 50:35.300] and all that time, you know, subconsciously or consciously.
[50:35.300 -> 50:39.400] I we're great at being victims as humans, you know, you give someone a
[50:39.400 -> 50:40.300] chance of being a victim.
[50:40.300 -> 50:43.600] They're all poor me, you know, I mean and that was kind of like me all
[50:43.600 -> 50:44.900] that through that was all poor me.
[50:44.900 -> 50:46.680] I've got attacked by the chimp
[50:46.680 -> 50:47.520] and everything else.
[50:47.520 -> 50:50.400] But I actually went back into that experience
[50:50.400 -> 50:51.640] and it was like I was actually there.
[50:51.640 -> 50:53.240] It wasn't like just a little dream.
[50:53.240 -> 50:54.080] Do you like see it?
[50:54.080 -> 50:54.900] I felt it.
[50:54.900 -> 50:55.740] You can actually feel it.
[50:55.740 -> 50:57.280] I felt it, I was feeling it.
[50:57.280 -> 51:00.480] I was looking out my eyes as a 10 year old.
[51:00.480 -> 51:03.120] Did you know that you're in this dreamlike state,
[51:03.120 -> 51:04.120] in the dreamlike state?
[51:04.120 -> 51:04.960] So when you're-
[51:04.960 -> 51:08.680] Well, it's so real, you're so lost in that world that you don't think I'm dreaming it, you know, you know, you're not
[51:10.240 -> 51:16.360] Separate aware, you know way you just in it and how long does it last in the dream for? Well, it depends
[51:17.160 -> 51:19.500] different parts of it, but you know you're under with
[51:20.680 -> 51:25.600] At the height of it, you know for an hour a good hour intensity, you know, four or five hours
[51:25.600 -> 51:27.760] we were we were you know under the
[51:28.520 -> 51:32.180] Medicine, but you four or five hours. Yeah, you into you all the way through the night
[51:32.180 -> 51:35.280] So you start about half past seven in the evening in the jungle in this Maloka?
[51:36.240 -> 51:39.760] And you're in the under the trance and on the journey
[51:40.640 -> 51:43.840] For good four or five hours. I was thinking it was like 20 minutes
[51:43.860 -> 51:46.240] For a good four or five hours. I was thinking it was like 20 minutes
[51:52.480 -> 51:54.480] But basically I came out I was talking about the victim and I was the boy and then all of a sudden I heard that roar that I heard when I was
[51:55.400 -> 51:57.400] You know when I was a kid
[51:57.520 -> 51:58.840] recognized and
[51:58.840 -> 52:02.520] Then it's I was still oh my god, the chimps come to us. So that intimate trauma
[52:02.520 -> 52:05.280] I talked about locking away was about to be unlocked and I was so
[52:05.280 -> 52:07.120] scared of that.
[52:07.120 -> 52:11.120] And then all of a sudden it flipped and I then went into the chimp.
[52:11.120 -> 52:12.280] Oh wow.
[52:12.280 -> 52:19.480] And I was then looking at me over my little baby chimp, you know, and it was it was crazy
[52:19.480 -> 52:22.800] because I could feel all the hair on my body.
[52:22.800 -> 52:27.960] I've just been laying on the ground because it was a hot summer's day. I could feel the leaves dropping off my back. It was
[52:27.960 -> 52:31.800] that intense. And afterwards when we had the debrief I was actually there like a
[52:31.800 -> 52:35.440] monkey in the maloca, my fists were on the floor and I was screeching like a gent.
[52:35.440 -> 52:41.080] Wow. Yeah it was that real. And then I had this computer sort of readout like
[52:41.080 -> 52:45.280] Terminator at me which was going threat threat threat and
[52:45.280 -> 52:48.560] I was just about I was about to go and attack me but that was the first thing I
[52:48.560 -> 52:52.660] didn't go and attack me but that then taught me so much compassion for the
[52:52.660 -> 52:57.000] chimp it took me out of being the victim and made me a part of the whole thing as
[52:57.000 -> 53:01.640] opposed to the yeah the most focal point of it I stepped into the chimps arena
[53:01.640 -> 53:04.800] that day it didn't come looking yeah and it was doing what any mother would do
[53:04.800 -> 53:05.200] and protect its young and that come looking for me and it was doing what any mother would do Yeah
[53:05.200 -> 53:11.560] And protect its young and that changed everything for me the compassion and everything I for that chimp then and that changed everything
[53:12.000 -> 53:15.300] So I have a question for you then. How would you suggest before we wrap this up?
[53:15.300 -> 53:20.640] How would you suggest people deal with their trauma in the past without taking a psychedelic hallucinogenic drug?
[53:20.920 -> 53:24.800] Yeah, you know there's different ways a lot of people won't want to do what I've done
[53:24.800 -> 53:25.600] That's quite extreme
[53:25.600 -> 53:30.800] But I do believe if you get the opportunities to do it probably can see why you did it because you were so young
[53:30.800 -> 53:33.520] So the memory would have probably been a bit. I don't know it's gonna happen
[53:33.520 -> 53:36.640] I didn't know I was gonna go back there. I didn't believe I was gonna go back there
[53:36.640 -> 53:39.240] My life is great now, you know, I mean I was like, oh, that's great
[53:39.240 -> 53:44.400] I didn't know what I really wanted from it, but I was good goes to where it's needed not where you want
[53:44.800 -> 53:48.520] Okay, well, you know, I mean so it just finds its own way it finds it you
[53:48.520 -> 54:00.120] can go in there so I want it because I want to be a better lover but it's not
[54:00.120 -> 54:03.880] gonna go to where you want it to go it's gonna go to exactly where it's needed so
[54:03.880 -> 54:05.980] for me that where it was needed,
[54:05.980 -> 54:07.500] it's I didn't really think I was like,
[54:07.500 -> 54:09.100] I didn't think I would go back to the chimp.
[54:09.100 -> 54:10.020] I thought that was resolved.
[54:10.020 -> 54:11.460] I thought it was finished,
[54:11.460 -> 54:13.780] but it clearly was not resolved.
[54:13.780 -> 54:14.620] You know what I mean?
[54:14.620 -> 54:15.860] There was a lot of stuff in my life that was happening
[54:15.860 -> 54:17.740] around that time, which was saying,
[54:17.740 -> 54:19.460] was taking me back to the chimp event.
[54:19.460 -> 54:20.700] It was some bizarre stuff.
[54:20.700 -> 54:22.420] If you read Breakpoint,
[54:22.420 -> 54:24.300] the crazy story about that chimp story
[54:24.300 -> 54:32.840] goes on for 30 years, you know, into Iraq and everything is mental. But yeah, but dealing with that.
[54:32.840 -> 54:38.760] And then the second night was when I did the Oscar and I actually got attacked by the chimp.
[54:38.760 -> 54:42.280] I went through that intimate trauma. It was horrible in that moment. And that's when I
[54:42.280 -> 54:45.260] died. And because I said to myself, what would have happened in that moment and that's when I died and because I said to myself what would have happened in that moment
[54:45.260 -> 54:46.960] If I just stopped fighting
[54:46.960 -> 54:52.480] You know, I mean it was like it was almost like freeze-frame. What would happen if I'd not taken the fight to the chimp?
[54:52.680 -> 54:55.560] Yeah, that would someone then everything became peaceful. I laid down
[54:55.560 -> 54:59.480] I can remember laying down and I'll open my eyes and I saw my wife
[54:59.480 -> 55:04.520] Her face was there laying next to me and I looked at her beautiful blue eyes and said don't worry
[55:04.520 -> 55:05.440] Just come with me and we looked at her beautiful blue eyes and said don't worry just come with me and
[55:05.440 -> 55:08.280] we both went into the spirit world like
[55:08.280 -> 55:10.560] a fucking Disney movie it was incredible
[55:10.560 -> 55:11.840] it was incredible and that's why I
[55:11.840 -> 55:12.840] didn't want to come back it was just
[55:12.840 -> 55:14.800] like this is brilliant I love it it's
[55:14.800 -> 55:16.400] just great felt the feeling was Wow
[55:16.400 -> 55:20.000] nuts that is nuts can't believe that
[55:20.000 -> 55:23.480] story time I want to go out there yeah
[55:23.480 -> 55:25.880] you should do it this is an amazing experience. I wonder where it would go. I have no idea what I'd see though. I want to go out there. I've enjoyed that. You should do it. It's an amazing
[55:25.880 -> 55:29.000] experience. I wonder where it would go. I have no idea what I'd see though. I'd be worried
[55:29.000 -> 55:32.000] about what could possibly happen. You'd probably be, yeah, you'd be surprised. Yeah, because
[55:32.000 -> 55:35.760] it might be something I've completely blanked out. Well, that's what we do. You know, you
[55:35.760 -> 55:39.440] blank out that intimate trauma of different events, different things in your life. But
[55:39.440 -> 55:44.480] like I say, it goes to where it's needed, not where you want. Well, there you go, Pitstop
[55:44.480 -> 55:46.360] fans. Well, there we go go that's the end of that
[55:46.360 -> 55:49.920] episode on the podcast but now you get the fun bit. Those of you listening
[55:49.920 -> 55:55.400] YouTube, Pitstop, Jake and Fab come and watch our little challenge. Head over. I'm
[55:55.400 -> 55:59.200] really excited now but it's funny because my energy is about to drain. We haven't done it yet so we
[55:59.200 -> 56:09.640] don't even know what's going to happen. We're all energetic, ready. I'm loving the smiles. The smiles will be wiped in about 10 minutes. ready yeah thank you very much for joining us only thank you thank you so
[56:09.640 -> 56:12.440] great it's been great talking to you I'm sure the people will love your insight
[56:12.440 -> 56:16.400] stories and hopefully we can come back with a Formula One driver for F2 yeah
[56:16.400 -> 56:21.840] well if you need us to like do a like a kidnap or anything like that we can
[56:21.840 -> 56:26.000] arrange that we've got vans yeah yeah Alright, no worries, we'll be in touch.
[56:26.000 -> 56:28.000] Oli man, thanks so much, mate. Cheers.
[56:28.000 -> 56:29.000] Thank you.
[56:29.000 -> 56:30.000] Class. Bye.
[56:30.000 -> 56:32.000] Class. Done. Class.
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