Podcast: Pitstop
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Welcome back to the PITSTOP PODCAST! It's Episode 49, and it is officially the Formula 1 Summer Break! We'll be hosting a load of guests every week throughout August, and we're kicking it off strong with Max Verstappen's Performance Coach; Brad Scanes! It was great to sit down with Brad and talk about his job and what it's like working alongside the World Champion. We hope you enjoy listening to Brad's stories as much as we did! Join us every Monday & Thursday for Q&As, guests, race predictions, and a whole load of laughter. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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**Navigating the F1 World with Max Verstappen's Performance Coach: Brad Skainz**
**Introduction:**
The Pit Stop Podcast welcomes Brad Skainz, the performance coach of the reigning Formula One World Champion, Max Verstappen. Brad shares his unique perspective on the world of F1, his role in Max's success, and the challenges and rewards of working with one of the most talented drivers in the sport.
**Key Insights:**
1. **Brad's Journey to F1:**
- Brad began his career as a physiotherapist, working with Team GB gymnasts before transitioning to Formula One with Max Verstappen.
- The opportunity arose through his connections in the F1 circuit, and he impressed Max and his family during their initial meeting.
- Brad emphasizes the importance of building a strong relationship with the driver, as they spend a significant amount of time together traveling, training, and competing.
2. **The Role of a Performance Coach:**
- Brad's primary responsibility is to ensure that Max is physically and mentally prepared for each race.
- This involves managing Max's training program, nutrition, hydration, and overall well-being.
- Brad also serves as Max's confidant and provides emotional support during challenging times.
3. **The Importance of Mental Strength:**
- Brad highlights the mental demands of Formula One, emphasizing the need for drivers to be resilient and focused under immense pressure.
- He describes Max as a driver who thrives under pressure and is able to maintain a positive mindset even in difficult situations.
4. **Unique Challenges of F1:**
- Brad discusses the logistical challenges of Formula One, with races taking place in 22 different countries and requiring extensive travel and setup.
- He also mentions the intense media scrutiny that drivers face, which can be mentally taxing.
5. **The Relationship with Max Verstappen:**
- Brad and Max have developed a strong friendship and mutual respect over the years.
- Brad emphasizes the importance of having clear boundaries and knowing when to switch between professional and personal interactions.
- They share a passion for football and often engage in friendly matches and FIFA gaming sessions.
6. **Pre-Race Routine:**
- Brad provides a detailed account of Max's pre-race routine, which includes warmup exercises, nutrition planning, and mental preparation.
- He highlights the importance of warming up the entire body, including the neck, which experiences significant G-forces during races.
7. **Managing Emotions:**
- Brad acknowledges the emotional rollercoaster that drivers experience, especially after disappointing qualifying sessions.
- He explains that his role involves keeping Max away from the media and allowing him to process his emotions privately.
- Brad emphasizes the need for drivers to be resilient and bounce back from setbacks.
8. **The Impact of Diet:**
- Brad stresses the significance of maintaining a strict diet to optimize performance.
- He explains that even a slight weight gain can affect a driver's lap times due to the weight regulations in Formula One.
**Conclusion:**
Brad Skainz offers a fascinating glimpse into the world of Formula One and the crucial role that performance coaches play in the success of drivers like Max Verstappen. He highlights the importance of physical and mental preparation, emotional support, and a strong driver-coach relationship. Brad's insights provide a deeper understanding of the challenges and rewards of working in the high-stakes environment of Formula One. # Formula One: Behind the Scenes with Brad Hartmann
## Introduction:
- Brad Hartmann, Red Bull Racing's Head of Performance, joins the Pit Stop Podcast for an insightful conversation.
- Hartmann discusses his role in ensuring Max Verstappen's peak performance, the dynamics within the Formula One paddock, and the upcoming races.
## Insights into Brad Hartmann's Role:
- Hartmann emphasizes the importance of dual qualifications for performance coaches in Formula One.
- He highlights the need for adaptability and the ability to cover all aspects of a driver's training and well-being.
- Hartmann shares his diverse background in professional sports, including football, basketball, and work with Team GB.
## The Formula One Paddock and Its Atmosphere:
- Hartmann describes the paddock as a tight-knit community where everyone knows each other.
- He mentions the exclusivity of Red Bull's motorhome and the challenges of gaining access to it.
- The atmosphere at the Dutch Grand Prix is described as electrifying, with an intense rivalry between Red Bull and Mercedes.
## The Demands of Formula One and Work-Life Balance:
- Hartmann acknowledges the demanding nature of Formula One, with extensive travel and missed personal events.
- He expresses his desire to continue in Formula One for a few more years but remains open to exploring other opportunities in the future.
- The challenges of maintaining a work-life balance while working in Formula One are discussed.
## Red Bull's Chances in the 2023 Season:
- Hartmann expresses cautious optimism about Red Bull's chances of retaining the championship.
- He emphasizes the unpredictable nature of Formula One and the potential for other teams to catch up.
- The importance of consistency and minimizing errors is highlighted as crucial factors in determining the outcome of the season.
## Hartmann's New Venture: The PhysioBrad App:
- Hartmann introduces his new app, PhysioBrad, which offers online physiotherapy and coaching services.
- He explains his decision to move his clinic online due to the challenges of juggling travel, family, and in-person appointments.
- Hartmann expresses his enthusiasm for helping individuals achieve their fitness goals through his app.
## Conclusion:
- The Pit Stop Podcast expresses gratitude to Brad Hartmann for sharing his insights and experiences.
- Hartmann extends his appreciation to the podcast hosts and looks forward to future interactions.
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[01:00.720 -> 01:05.600] Saturday night in Monaco is very good. Before the race? Yeah, not many of the team are out but
[01:05.600 -> 01:12.600] that's their kind of big party where all the VIP guests are there. You get to go. If you go to Monaco, yeah.
[01:12.600 -> 01:15.600] Hahaha, fair.
[01:27.000 -> 01:32.000] Welcome back to the Pit Stop Podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, it is the start of the summer break and as we promised, we've got
[01:32.000 -> 01:33.000] loads of guests.
[01:33.000 -> 01:34.500] We're starting off with a big one.
[01:34.500 -> 01:36.500] Yeah, we're kicking it off strong to be honest with you, mate.
[01:36.500 -> 01:37.500] Who have we got with us today?
[01:37.500 -> 01:41.000] Well, we'll let him introduce himself so he can tell you all what he does, but we have
[01:41.000 -> 01:42.000] got Mr. Brad Skains.
[01:42.000 -> 01:43.000] Woo-hoo!
[01:43.000 -> 01:44.000] Hi, guys.
[01:44.000 -> 01:45.600] Thank you very much for being here. Now, this is a special guest because he's come we have got Mr. Brad Skainz. Woo-hoo! Hi guys. Thank you very much for being here.
[01:45.600 -> 01:49.000] Now, this is a special guest because he's come straight from the race.
[01:49.000 -> 01:50.160] Yeah, flew in.
[01:50.160 -> 01:54.040] Working with a very special someone at the race as well.
[01:54.040 -> 01:55.040] What's that all about?
[01:55.040 -> 01:56.520] What did you get up to this weekend?
[01:56.520 -> 01:59.680] Yeah, so I'm the performance coach for Max Verstappen.
[01:59.680 -> 02:01.080] Oh, that sounds cool Evan.
[02:01.080 -> 02:02.080] That's pretty sick.
[02:02.080 -> 02:06.000] I'm sat here in a red hood top, you've got Max and Sam behind you.
[02:06.000 -> 02:10.000] I was just going through my wardrobe looking for t-shirts and all it was was a load of Ferrari tops.
[02:10.000 -> 02:12.000] I was like, probably shouldn't put them on.
[02:12.000 -> 02:14.000] Maybe I'll leave now.
[02:14.000 -> 02:16.000] How are you brother?
[02:16.000 -> 02:19.000] Yeah, all good. Looking forward to a couple of weeks off actually.
[02:19.000 -> 02:21.000] So it's nice to just chill for a moment.
[02:21.000 -> 02:23.000] It's been a busy start of the year, first half of the year.
[02:23.000 -> 02:25.000] Yeah, it has been.
[02:25.000 -> 02:27.040] Obviously the races are all squashed together this year
[02:27.040 -> 02:28.720] because they're finishing it early
[02:29.840 -> 02:31.560] than what they normally would do.
[02:31.560 -> 02:32.400] Oh, are they?
[02:32.400 -> 02:33.240] When does it normally finish?
[02:33.240 -> 02:34.600] So, well, the last two years
[02:34.600 -> 02:36.160] we've gone into the second week of December.
[02:36.160 -> 02:37.160] Yeah.
[02:37.160 -> 02:39.920] Traditionally it finishes last weekend of November,
[02:39.920 -> 02:41.160] first weekend of December.
[02:41.160 -> 02:42.000] Okay.
[02:42.000 -> 02:43.840] This year we're like the 20th of November.
[02:43.840 -> 02:44.680] Oh.
[02:44.680 -> 02:45.720] I think it was mainly because I wanted to finish
[02:45.720 -> 02:46.920] before the football world cup.
[02:46.920 -> 02:47.760] Oh yeah.
[02:47.760 -> 02:48.580] Yeah.
[02:48.580 -> 02:49.420] Cause it's out in Qatar, isn't it?
[02:49.420 -> 02:50.260] Yeah.
[02:50.260 -> 02:52.720] So that was our sharing TV viewings and stuff.
[02:52.720 -> 02:54.000] Wouldn't be, wouldn't be cool with it.
[02:54.000 -> 02:55.440] No.
[02:55.440 -> 02:56.280] Wow, Matt.
[02:56.280 -> 02:57.880] So why don't you tell us a little bit about what you do?
[02:57.880 -> 03:01.820] So you're Max Verstappen's performance coach.
[03:01.820 -> 03:02.660] Yeah.
[03:02.660 -> 03:06.000] So every drive will have a titled performance coach yw'r ffyrdd o ffynon. Iawn, felly mae pob drif yn cael
[03:06.000 -> 03:08.000] ffyrdd o ffynon yn y cyfnod.
[03:08.000 -> 03:10.000] Ac maen nhw'n dod o
[03:10.000 -> 03:12.000] o leoedd fysio neu o leoedd
[03:12.000 -> 03:14.000] sgiliau sgiliau oed, neu o leoedd
[03:14.000 -> 03:16.000] o ffynon. Felly mae fy nhyddiad yn
[03:16.000 -> 03:18.000] ffysiotherapydd. Rwyf hefyd
[03:18.000 -> 03:20.000] yn ffynon o ffynon o ffynon hefyd.
[03:20.000 -> 03:22.000] Ac ie,
[03:22.000 -> 03:24.000] yn y bôn, rwy'n gynnal
[03:24.000 -> 03:25.800] ei rhaglen o gyfnodau ffysigol a mentyl ar gyfer y meseg, ar gyfer and yeah, basically, you know, manage his program from a physical and mental preparation
[03:25.800 -> 03:27.840] for the season, for each race,
[03:28.720 -> 03:30.720] and working through race weekends.
[03:30.720 -> 03:32.500] Blimey, and you were with him last season
[03:32.500 -> 03:33.780] when he won the championship.
[03:33.780 -> 03:34.620] Yep.
[03:34.620 -> 03:36.620] So technically you trained a world champion.
[03:36.620 -> 03:38.240] Yeah, not my first actually, but.
[03:38.240 -> 03:40.480] What, oh shit, who else?
[03:40.480 -> 03:44.960] So not in motorsport, but I worked with Team GB
[03:44.960 -> 03:47.000] and in gymnastics.
[03:47.000 -> 03:48.000] Oh nice!
[03:48.000 -> 03:51.000] And another Max, Max Whitlock, we won world championships in Olympic gold medals.
[03:51.000 -> 03:55.000] Wow, look at you! Working with world champs left, right and centre.
[03:55.000 -> 03:57.000] Yeah, yeah, we try.
[03:57.000 -> 04:02.000] Which one's more strenuous, would you say, working with a GB athlete or working with a motorsport athlete?
[04:02.000 -> 04:07.480] It's completely different. If you take the pure physical nature of gymnastics,
[04:07.480 -> 04:09.640] that is one of the most demanding sports
[04:09.640 -> 04:11.560] in the entire world.
[04:11.560 -> 04:14.160] You take everything that comes with Formula One,
[04:14.160 -> 04:19.080] the travel, the physical demands, the media marketing,
[04:19.080 -> 04:22.880] pressure, tension that sits around just Formula One itself,
[04:22.880 -> 04:24.440] then that's, you know,
[04:24.440 -> 04:25.680] you don't find many sports like that.
[04:26.800 -> 04:28.800] Yeah, Formula One is definitely like a...
[04:29.680 -> 04:35.000] For me, it feels like it's in its own league just in terms of like logistics and everything that goes into it as well.
[04:35.000 -> 04:40.320] Yeah, you know, we this year were racing 22 different countries and that's, you know, moving
[04:41.000 -> 04:46.040] everything around to those 22 different countries and, you know and in short space of time as well.
[04:46.040 -> 04:48.280] So yeah, it's a hell of a setup.
[04:48.280 -> 04:49.120] Yeah.
[04:49.120 -> 04:50.160] Are you predominantly focused on,
[04:50.160 -> 04:51.520] so when you get there every week,
[04:51.520 -> 04:53.520] your job is literally just Max?
[04:53.520 -> 04:54.360] Yes.
[04:54.360 -> 04:55.180] So you're not worried about any,
[04:55.180 -> 04:57.360] you're not carrying any bits of a car or anything?
[04:57.360 -> 04:59.000] No, no, no, I'm just carrying his bits.
[04:59.000 -> 05:00.600] You're just carrying his bits, yeah.
[05:00.600 -> 05:02.520] Because we see you on the grid
[05:02.520 -> 05:03.800] and we see you always with Max,
[05:03.800 -> 05:08.540] you're right there, you know. Yeah. got his stuff and talking to him every day.
[05:08.540 -> 05:09.540] What is that like?
[05:09.540 -> 05:13.240] Because ultimately our audience want to know what it's like working with Max.
[05:13.240 -> 05:15.480] What's he like as a person?
[05:15.480 -> 05:17.120] What's your friendship like with him?
[05:17.120 -> 05:18.240] Yeah, it's cool.
[05:18.240 -> 05:22.880] And I always say you couldn't do this job if you weren't friends because you don't spend
[05:22.880 -> 05:23.880] that much time together.
[05:23.880 -> 05:26.560] You travel together, you're in hotels together.
[05:27.560 -> 05:31.400] So you have to get on with the person you're working with.
[05:31.400 -> 05:32.860] So yeah, no, he's a good guy.
[05:33.840 -> 05:36.560] You know, really down to earth guy, likes being at home,
[05:36.560 -> 05:38.520] spending time with family and friends.
[05:40.280 -> 05:43.920] We have a nice relationship in that we can, you know,
[05:43.920 -> 05:47.680] we can go for a dinner, we can chat about a football football we can sit down and watch the football play a bit of FIFA
[05:48.080 -> 05:50.080] but then also
[05:50.600 -> 05:52.600] Wow
[05:53.720 -> 05:56.040] Let's put it this way it took me three years to beat him so
[05:57.940 -> 05:59.940] But I have done that now
[06:00.880 -> 06:04.680] The other one of themselves like a hotel I've seen him where they have a box and you get out
[06:04.840 -> 06:05.200] Yeah, what's the oh like in a like a like one of those containers for like a hotel? I've seen them where they have like a box and you get out.
[06:05.200 -> 06:08.240] Oh, like in a, like a, like one of those containers
[06:08.240 -> 06:09.320] that you can move on wheels.
[06:09.320 -> 06:12.640] Yeah, it's like a, like a suitcase, lift it up,
[06:12.640 -> 06:14.000] screens there ready to go.
[06:14.000 -> 06:14.840] That's sick.
[06:14.840 -> 06:15.760] It's pretty cool.
[06:15.760 -> 06:17.920] Yeah, I heard that he actually plays like,
[06:17.920 -> 06:19.240] it was one of those facts,
[06:19.240 -> 06:20.960] like this was like months ago now when we first started,
[06:20.960 -> 06:22.700] we would like quiz in each other.
[06:22.700 -> 06:24.160] And one of the facts was like,
[06:24.160 -> 06:26.000] he just plays it before a race.
[06:26.000 -> 06:29.120] Like a lot of the guys go through all of like the numbers
[06:29.120 -> 06:30.720] and telemetry or is that what it's called?
[06:30.720 -> 06:32.560] But he's just playing X, X-Box.
[06:32.560 -> 06:33.800] I don't know how true that is.
[06:33.800 -> 06:38.080] No, if, if, if before a race is the night before,
[06:38.080 -> 06:40.440] you know, chilling in the hotel, then maybe, but yeah,
[06:40.440 -> 06:43.360] definitely not a track and track side.
[06:43.360 -> 06:44.200] Yeah.
[06:44.200 -> 06:46.560] I'm getting ready to see him in the back. but yeah, definitely not a track and... Track side. Yeah. Imagine that, the camera just pans around.
[06:46.560 -> 06:47.520] Everyone else getting ready,
[06:47.520 -> 06:49.160] just see him in the back playing FIFA.
[06:49.160 -> 06:52.600] Rather than warming up, he's just on the control pad.
[06:52.600 -> 06:54.640] So how long have you been a part of the F1
[06:54.640 -> 06:56.120] for doing this job?
[06:56.120 -> 06:57.200] As long as I've been with Max.
[06:57.200 -> 07:00.600] So my first job in F1 was working with Max.
[07:00.600 -> 07:01.800] So I'm in my third year.
[07:01.800 -> 07:04.400] That's not a very first gig, is it really?
[07:04.400 -> 07:05.360] Wow.
[07:05.360 -> 07:06.200] Yeah.
[07:06.200 -> 07:07.080] How'd you get a job like that?
[07:07.080 -> 07:08.880] So how'd you go from being like a physio
[07:08.880 -> 07:11.440] to doing it with the world champion?
[07:11.440 -> 07:14.120] Yeah, I think it's first off,
[07:14.120 -> 07:15.440] just being good at what you do.
[07:15.440 -> 07:17.040] And then second off, just having a bit of luck
[07:17.040 -> 07:19.320] and knowing the right people.
[07:19.320 -> 07:20.640] That's how it kind of worked for me.
[07:20.640 -> 07:23.480] I was a physiotherapist working with team GB,
[07:23.480 -> 07:25.460] working with the gymnasts.
[07:25.460 -> 07:28.620] I was working in a performance center in London
[07:28.620 -> 07:29.460] on Harley Street.
[07:29.460 -> 07:32.620] And then obviously the job with Max had come up
[07:32.620 -> 07:35.300] and I knew a few people that were working in
[07:35.300 -> 07:36.860] and around the F1 circuit.
[07:36.860 -> 07:39.420] My name got mentioned and then you just start
[07:39.420 -> 07:42.020] to have a few conversations and the rest is history.
[07:42.980 -> 07:47.100] I flew out after the season finale in Abu Dhabi
[07:47.100 -> 07:50.400] to Barcelona, so this was 2019 now.
[07:50.400 -> 07:54.120] Met Max and his family in Barcelona at the circuit
[07:54.120 -> 07:56.120] where they were test driving some cars.
[07:56.120 -> 07:57.920] And yeah, we just got on from there,
[07:57.920 -> 07:58.880] spent half a day with him.
[07:58.880 -> 08:00.400] We chatted about a few things,
[08:00.400 -> 08:02.360] talked about becoming world champion, and then-
[08:02.360 -> 08:03.600] Love it.
[08:03.600 -> 08:05.240] You know, he met with a few people
[08:05.240 -> 08:06.640] and it was down to him to decide.
[08:06.640 -> 08:09.400] And I think it's like you said at the start,
[08:09.400 -> 08:13.960] I think aside from what I'd done or the expertise I had,
[08:13.960 -> 08:16.440] cause everybody coming to that, that meeting
[08:16.440 -> 08:18.080] was going to have something about them
[08:18.080 -> 08:19.720] in terms of what they did.
[08:19.720 -> 08:22.840] But I just think the way we hit it off quite quickly.
[08:22.840 -> 08:25.320] Yeah. And also his family, you know,
[08:25.320 -> 08:26.840] I was there with his dad and, you know,
[08:26.840 -> 08:27.720] chatting away with him.
[08:27.720 -> 08:29.720] And I think that was the,
[08:29.720 -> 08:31.360] that was the reason I probably got the job.
[08:31.360 -> 08:32.180] Yeah.
[08:32.180 -> 08:34.720] I think having that relationship is like probably one of the
[08:34.720 -> 08:36.600] most important things you said anyway,
[08:36.600 -> 08:38.760] but just relating it back to Pit Stop,
[08:38.760 -> 08:40.600] the whole reason that we feel like this is,
[08:40.600 -> 08:41.440] this goes so well,
[08:41.440 -> 08:43.960] what we're doing is because we are two mates from school.
[08:43.960 -> 08:44.800] Yeah.
[08:44.800 -> 08:46.340] So when you have that connection
[08:46.340 -> 08:48.340] and then you bring it into like work,
[08:48.340 -> 08:51.580] it's just a recipe for the opposite to disaster.
[08:51.580 -> 08:52.420] Whatever that is.
[08:52.420 -> 08:54.740] Yeah, and you know, you've got to have your boundaries
[08:54.740 -> 08:55.580] at the same time.
[08:55.580 -> 08:58.140] You know, you've got to know when it's time to switch on
[08:58.140 -> 09:00.420] and focus and actually, you know,
[09:00.420 -> 09:02.960] we've got a race to get on with,
[09:02.960 -> 09:05.600] or, you know, training in between races or pre-season training when, you know, we've got a race to get on with, or, you know, training in between races
[09:05.600 -> 09:08.480] or pre-season training when, you know,
[09:08.480 -> 09:11.780] we've got work to do, we've got to get it done.
[09:11.780 -> 09:13.420] But yeah, that's why it works so well.
[09:13.420 -> 09:15.000] We know when we can switch off,
[09:15.000 -> 09:16.280] we know when we need to switch on.
[09:16.280 -> 09:18.560] I think it might be quite interesting to look at like,
[09:18.560 -> 09:22.240] well, last weekend, so what you've just got back from,
[09:22.240 -> 09:25.160] what's that like from you from the moment you get there
[09:25.160 -> 09:26.560] until the moment you come home?
[09:26.560 -> 09:27.560] Like what was this weekend like?
[09:27.560 -> 09:30.520] Cause as we know, Max's qualifying was 10th
[09:30.520 -> 09:31.360] and then he won.
[09:31.360 -> 09:32.720] So amazing weekend for Max.
[09:32.720 -> 09:34.440] Perfect time to get you.
[09:34.440 -> 09:35.720] Amazing drive.
[09:35.720 -> 09:37.200] Impressive performance from the whole team.
[09:37.200 -> 09:39.000] So to get you after that,
[09:39.000 -> 09:41.040] like what was it like start to finish this weekend?
[09:41.040 -> 09:41.880] That would be great too.
[09:41.880 -> 09:44.720] Yeah, there was a real buzz on Sunday night.
[09:44.720 -> 09:46.480] Everyone's gone into summer break thinking,
[09:46.480 -> 09:48.320] you know, we're pretty happy at the moment.
[09:48.320 -> 09:49.160] Smashed it.
[09:49.160 -> 09:49.980] It's good.
[09:49.980 -> 09:51.240] But yeah, so I would normally arrive
[09:51.240 -> 09:52.440] on a Wednesday or Thursday.
[09:52.440 -> 09:53.280] Okay.
[09:53.280 -> 09:54.320] So weekend just gone,
[09:54.320 -> 09:58.240] arrived Thursday morning, straight to track.
[09:58.240 -> 10:01.160] For me, you know, I start speaking to everyone
[10:01.160 -> 10:02.000] that's already there.
[10:02.000 -> 10:03.400] So go speak to the catering staff,
[10:03.400 -> 10:06.100] make sure meal plans are all sorted for the weekend,
[10:06.100 -> 10:07.220] checking with the engineers,
[10:07.220 -> 10:09.460] you know, one of the main things for me is
[10:09.460 -> 10:10.580] what's the weather gonna be like,
[10:10.580 -> 10:13.420] because we need to know what visors to put on the helmets.
[10:13.420 -> 10:14.260] And those sort of things.
[10:14.260 -> 10:15.100] So is that like your job?
[10:15.100 -> 10:15.940] You do that stuff?
[10:15.940 -> 10:18.380] Yeah, I think the best way to describe
[10:18.380 -> 10:21.960] what I do on a race weekend is I look after everything,
[10:21.960 -> 10:23.820] so Max just has to drive the car.
[10:23.820 -> 10:27.560] Cool, so you're basically sorting all of Max's questions for him.
[10:27.560 -> 10:28.400] Yeah.
[10:28.400 -> 10:29.240] Anything that he would need to know.
[10:29.240 -> 10:31.400] I set up meet times in the morning,
[10:31.400 -> 10:32.760] I drive him into the track,
[10:34.960 -> 10:36.960] sort out all his food, drink,
[10:36.960 -> 10:37.800] sort out all his gear.
[10:37.800 -> 10:39.040] So you drive him from the hotel?
[10:39.040 -> 10:39.860] Yeah.
[10:39.860 -> 10:40.700] Does he judge your driving?
[10:40.700 -> 10:42.200] Does he sit in the front seat and he's like,
[10:42.200 -> 10:43.040] oh, you know what,
[10:43.040 -> 10:44.600] people are like when they're a passenger.
[10:44.600 -> 10:46.800] Yeah, maybe when I go the wrong way a few times.
[10:46.800 -> 10:50.200] I'd love to see you and Max driving around
[10:50.200 -> 10:51.040] in the wrong way.
[10:51.040 -> 10:54.280] Yeah, I remember when I turned up to testing
[10:54.280 -> 10:58.320] in Barcelona in 2020 and they handed me the keys
[10:58.320 -> 11:00.280] to the Aston Martin and, you know,
[11:00.280 -> 11:01.400] I got to go and pick up Max.
[11:01.400 -> 11:02.560] I'm like, what?
[11:02.560 -> 11:06.480] I thought I'd take the long way. Yeah, yeah.
[11:06.480 -> 11:09.480] But yeah, I was sweating a bit that day.
[11:09.480 -> 11:11.440] Yeah, I was as well.
[11:11.440 -> 11:13.720] But this is it, you know, he's such a relaxed guy.
[11:13.720 -> 11:14.880] He doesn't care, you know,
[11:14.880 -> 11:17.640] we're just a couple of mates driving to the circuit.
[11:17.640 -> 11:19.600] So it was all good.
[11:19.600 -> 11:20.440] But yeah, you're obviously,
[11:20.440 -> 11:22.480] you're driving a Formula One driver around.
[11:22.480 -> 11:24.280] It's pretty interesting.
[11:24.280 -> 11:25.800] That's crazy. What you just said there, that's like a different around. It's interesting. That's pretty cool. That's crazy.
[11:25.800 -> 11:26.640] What you just said there,
[11:26.640 -> 11:28.640] that's like a different sort of a different skillset
[11:28.640 -> 11:30.400] in a way to like, you mean you have like the physio side
[11:30.400 -> 11:32.280] of things, but looking after everything else for him is like.
[11:32.280 -> 11:34.000] Yeah, it's almost like a PR management kind of.
[11:34.000 -> 11:35.680] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[11:35.680 -> 11:37.400] You basically just take care of everything.
[11:37.400 -> 11:40.200] So the schedule, you liaise with the PR guys,
[11:40.200 -> 11:42.120] the comms team as to when interviews are,
[11:42.120 -> 11:43.840] or maybe take a few out
[11:43.840 -> 11:45.320] cause the day's looking a bit busy.
[11:45.320 -> 11:49.880] And so yeah, it's everything that might impact
[11:49.880 -> 11:52.400] the performance of him getting on track, really.
[11:52.400 -> 11:53.240] Yeah, for sure.
[11:53.240 -> 11:54.160] Cause ultimately the goal for him there
[11:54.160 -> 11:55.160] that weekend is to race
[11:55.160 -> 11:57.560] and your goal is to make sure he puts in the best performance
[11:57.560 -> 11:58.760] Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
[11:58.760 -> 12:00.240] So you're there this weekend
[12:00.240 -> 12:02.160] and you're sorting all this stuff out on Friday
[12:02.160 -> 12:03.720] and then there's practice.
[12:03.720 -> 12:05.160] Yeah, so that was Thursday.
[12:05.160 -> 12:07.800] And then obviously back to the hotel Thursday night,
[12:07.800 -> 12:10.040] everything's set up ready to go for Friday.
[12:10.040 -> 12:13.140] You know, if there's any niggles or injuries
[12:13.140 -> 12:15.000] or anything needed, then, you know,
[12:15.000 -> 12:17.000] that's when the physio skills come in.
[12:17.000 -> 12:19.320] And then, yeah, we get into Friday.
[12:19.320 -> 12:21.140] Friday, you know, starts much of the same.
[12:21.140 -> 12:23.740] We drive into track, sort out the food and drink,
[12:23.740 -> 12:27.760] and then he'll go off and do his commitments.
[12:27.760 -> 12:30.280] He'll have the briefing meetings with the engineers,
[12:30.280 -> 12:31.640] and then we're hitting the track.
[12:31.640 -> 12:34.900] So 25 minutes before we're doing the garage,
[12:34.900 -> 12:35.900] we start to warm up.
[12:37.000 -> 12:40.000] So, you know, go through sort of 10 to 15 minute warmup,
[12:41.460 -> 12:44.400] and then it's hopping in the car and away we go.
[12:44.400 -> 12:47.680] So we warm up before every session, qualifying, race.
[12:49.040 -> 12:51.280] And then depending on the timings and stuff
[12:51.280 -> 12:54.160] is how we plan our nutrition and hydration
[12:54.160 -> 12:55.480] through the weekend.
[12:55.480 -> 12:57.240] We've seen some warmups on like Netflix
[12:57.240 -> 12:58.540] or whatever when they do it.
[12:58.540 -> 13:01.800] Is it mainly just like reaction stuff and stuff like that?
[13:01.800 -> 13:02.620] It's a combination.
[13:02.620 -> 13:07.120] So Formula One is quite unique in that the physical demands
[13:07.120 -> 13:08.180] kind of cover everything.
[13:08.180 -> 13:10.140] So you need to warm up the entire body.
[13:11.060 -> 13:13.900] So we always start off with some reaction games,
[13:13.900 -> 13:15.540] maybe using some of the pods,
[13:17.740 -> 13:19.460] other little reaction games,
[13:19.460 -> 13:22.020] juggling or vision games where you're having to track
[13:22.020 -> 13:24.780] and stuff there or respond to commands.
[13:24.780 -> 13:27.120] And then we get into something that raises the heart rate.
[13:27.120 -> 13:28.680] So it might be running on the spot.
[13:28.680 -> 13:30.280] I know a lot of drivers do a bit of skipping
[13:30.280 -> 13:32.160] or kicking a football around or something like that,
[13:32.160 -> 13:34.160] but you want to get the heart rate raised.
[13:34.160 -> 13:36.260] Not so important for practices and stuff,
[13:36.260 -> 13:39.460] but the moment when it comes to the start,
[13:39.460 -> 13:41.440] that's when your heart rate is the highest
[13:41.440 -> 13:43.800] and then during difficult overtake maneuvers as well.
[13:43.800 -> 13:45.680] So they need to feel that.
[13:47.020 -> 13:49.280] And then you move into some activation work.
[13:49.280 -> 13:51.840] So you want everything switched on in the lower body.
[13:51.840 -> 13:54.200] So we might do some squats, some calf raises,
[13:54.200 -> 13:56.480] some bridges coming into the upper body.
[13:56.480 -> 13:58.100] We might do a bit of chest press with a band
[13:58.100 -> 13:59.240] or pull aparts.
[14:00.400 -> 14:01.240] And then-
[14:01.240 -> 14:02.060] It's mad to hear it,
[14:02.060 -> 14:02.900] because everything you're saying clearly works.
[14:02.900 -> 14:04.600] Like this is working on the guy that's winning.
[14:04.600 -> 14:06.400] We should add some shit in there that isn't true.
[14:06.400 -> 14:08.800] Just so I'm sitting here talking about, you know what I mean?
[14:08.800 -> 14:10.000] A load of random stuff.
[14:10.000 -> 14:11.400] Yeah, you know how Williams would be listening.
[14:11.400 -> 14:13.800] Latifi's coach would be like, oh shit.
[14:13.800 -> 14:14.600] You see him start doing it.
[14:14.600 -> 14:15.800] That's what they're doing, yeah.
[14:15.800 -> 14:18.200] Yeah, like, what?
[14:18.200 -> 14:21.400] And then we get into the neck.
[14:21.400 -> 14:23.000] So warming up the neck is important.
[14:23.000 -> 14:23.600] The neck's a mad.
[14:23.600 -> 14:24.800] Yeah, get the bands around the neck.
[14:24.800 -> 14:25.120] Yeah, that's one of the most important things. Try and pull neck is important. Yeah, get the bands around the neck and-
[14:25.120 -> 14:25.960] Yeah, that's one of the most important things.
[14:25.960 -> 14:27.520] Try and pull his head off.
[14:27.520 -> 14:28.920] Yeah, I can't believe that.
[14:28.920 -> 14:29.920] What was the weight, Stacey?
[14:29.920 -> 14:30.760] What we did-
[14:30.760 -> 14:32.800] 20 kilos, is it?
[14:32.800 -> 14:35.640] Like when you're testing the neck and that?
[14:35.640 -> 14:36.480] Double that.
[14:36.480 -> 14:37.320] Yeah, that was F2.
[14:37.320 -> 14:38.160] That was F2.
[14:38.160 -> 14:39.760] Yeah, Ollie said he's doing 20, didn't he?
[14:39.760 -> 14:40.800] Yeah.
[14:40.800 -> 14:47.700] Yeah, so in Formula One, roughly speaking, you need to push back 40 kilos.
[14:47.700 -> 14:50.440] You need to push to the side between,
[14:50.440 -> 14:52.860] wow, 35 to 40 kilos each side.
[14:52.860 -> 14:56.080] And then going forward, it's probably about 25 kilos
[14:56.080 -> 14:58.640] because you're supported on the forwards.
[14:58.640 -> 15:00.640] And what's the reason for pulling back?
[15:00.640 -> 15:02.560] Just because of the way the G-force is in the car?
[15:02.560 -> 15:04.160] Is that the one that we most?
[15:04.160 -> 15:06.360] So when you brake, your head gets thrown forwards.
[15:06.360 -> 15:07.200] Oh, of course.
[15:07.200 -> 15:09.200] So it's the opposite, isn't it?
[15:09.200 -> 15:12.040] Yeah. Whereas when you're accelerating,
[15:12.040 -> 15:14.720] you're back into the back of the car anyway.
[15:14.720 -> 15:16.360] Do you train your neck like that?
[15:17.480 -> 15:19.600] So I did some filming,
[15:19.600 -> 15:23.600] some videos of the neck exercises that we use,
[15:23.600 -> 15:26.240] mainly when we were apart during COVID,
[15:26.240 -> 15:27.360] we were apart for a couple of months
[15:27.360 -> 15:29.280] because no one could go anywhere, could they?
[15:29.280 -> 15:32.480] So I was sending him some plans to work through
[15:32.480 -> 15:35.520] and I filmed a couple of the neck exercises
[15:35.520 -> 15:37.600] and I had neck pain for about a week after.
[15:37.600 -> 15:41.520] I'm trying to do some of them.
[15:41.520 -> 15:42.720] So yeah, they're tough.
[15:42.720 -> 15:43.600] They're tough.
[15:43.600 -> 15:45.360] I mean, we can pull,
[15:45.360 -> 15:48.800] I can pull between 20, 25 kilos to the side.
[15:49.800 -> 15:52.720] I tried at the testing facility that we use,
[15:52.720 -> 15:54.600] but again, had neck pain for about a week after.
[15:54.600 -> 15:57.480] So how do they do it week in, week out?
[15:57.480 -> 15:58.320] Just training.
[15:58.320 -> 15:59.140] Just train a lot.
[15:59.140 -> 15:59.980] Yeah, yeah, train a lot.
[15:59.980 -> 16:03.000] So we build the neck during pre-season
[16:03.000 -> 16:04.560] so that they're ready for testing.
[16:04.560 -> 16:06.560] Then by the time you come out of testing, they've done a lot of laps that the neck during pre-season so that they're ready for testing. Then by the time you come out of testing,
[16:06.560 -> 16:08.920] they've done a lot of laps that the neck is sore,
[16:08.920 -> 16:12.660] but it's like having a good pre-season workout on it.
[16:13.720 -> 16:15.360] And then after the first couple of races,
[16:15.360 -> 16:17.040] we don't really need to train neck again.
[16:17.040 -> 16:18.920] We'll do a little bit during summer break
[16:18.920 -> 16:21.240] just to feel it get ready again.
[16:21.240 -> 16:22.080] But the driving-
[16:22.080 -> 16:23.200] During the season, you don't need to,
[16:23.200 -> 16:24.520] because obviously they're in the car every week.
[16:24.520 -> 16:26.200] They're in the car, so you know,
[16:26.200 -> 16:29.320] go around Barcelona, you're having six G's 50 times then.
[16:29.320 -> 16:30.160] Yeah.
[16:30.160 -> 16:30.980] Yeah, you don't need a deal.
[16:30.980 -> 16:31.820] That's more than I can pull.
[16:31.820 -> 16:32.920] Yeah.
[16:32.920 -> 16:34.520] Have you had the chance to ever get in a,
[16:34.520 -> 16:37.040] not maybe an F1 car, but any race car like that or?
[16:37.040 -> 16:38.240] Yeah, I think an F1 car,
[16:38.240 -> 16:39.480] probably put in the wall straight away.
[16:39.480 -> 16:40.320] So.
[16:40.320 -> 16:42.800] That's what we think as well.
[16:42.800 -> 16:46.920] But yeah, I was fortunate that I was able to be driven
[16:46.920 -> 16:49.600] around the track by Max in a Porsche GT cup car.
[16:49.600 -> 16:51.600] So that was sick.
[16:51.600 -> 16:53.800] Well, I couldn't decide whether I wanted to be sick
[16:53.800 -> 16:54.640] or enjoy it.
[16:54.640 -> 16:58.480] Yeah man, that's insane.
[16:58.480 -> 17:00.480] But yeah, looking back, it was phenomenal.
[17:00.480 -> 17:05.000] Unbelievable to see him driving and being the car then.
[17:05.120 -> 17:06.040] It was wet as well.
[17:06.040 -> 17:08.800] And I was going around some of the corners.
[17:08.800 -> 17:11.600] I'm sitting there thinking he knows it's wet, doesn't he?
[17:11.600 -> 17:13.440] Of course he does.
[17:13.440 -> 17:16.320] He's one of the best drivers in the rain.
[17:16.320 -> 17:17.920] You're in good hands if you're with him.
[17:17.920 -> 17:20.040] Yeah, it was super fun.
[17:20.040 -> 17:21.920] Well, that was in Portimao as well.
[17:21.920 -> 17:23.280] So it's a pretty cool track.
[17:23.280 -> 17:24.120] Wow.
[17:24.120 -> 17:24.940] Where's that?
[17:24.940 -> 17:25.780] Portugal.
[17:25.780 -> 17:27.080] So we actually raced there the last two years,
[17:27.080 -> 17:30.360] but they filled the gaps with some of the COVID.
[17:30.360 -> 17:32.560] Oh yeah, I thought it was normally on the calendar.
[17:32.560 -> 17:34.840] Yeah, yeah, it was just a gap filler.
[17:34.840 -> 17:35.660] Oh, okay.
[17:35.660 -> 17:37.280] But it was a really, really cool track.
[17:37.280 -> 17:38.120] Yeah.
[17:38.120 -> 17:39.860] Nightmare to get in and out of with traffic,
[17:39.860 -> 17:41.840] but nice track and nice area, so.
[17:41.840 -> 17:42.680] Yeah.
[17:42.680 -> 17:44.480] So do you usually drive into the races?
[17:44.480 -> 17:46.840] Do you ever take a helicopter? No, nice area. Yeah. So do you usually drive into the races? Do you ever take a helicopter?
[17:46.840 -> 17:47.680] No, we drive.
[17:47.680 -> 17:48.500] Drive?
[17:48.500 -> 17:49.880] I find it weird that thought though,
[17:49.880 -> 17:51.600] that someone in the car in front of me
[17:51.600 -> 17:53.720] could just be like you with the world champion
[17:53.720 -> 17:54.560] on a normal road.
[17:54.560 -> 17:55.880] You'd see it's got Red Bull racing
[17:55.880 -> 17:56.720] down the side of the car.
[17:56.720 -> 17:57.560] Has it?
[17:57.560 -> 17:58.380] You'd know.
[17:58.380 -> 17:59.220] I would look out for it.
[17:59.220 -> 18:01.400] Got massive stuff being plastered along the side of it.
[18:01.400 -> 18:04.240] Yeah, no, we're driving Hondas at the moment
[18:04.240 -> 18:06.480] because we're still linked with Hondas. So we've got the Type R's. Yeah, I'm wearing a top driving Hondas at the moment because we're still linked with Honda so we got the type ours
[18:06.840 -> 18:10.660] Yeah, I'm wearing a top that's got Honda on it. It's a couple years old though. Yeah. Yeah
[18:10.660 -> 18:12.660] Red Bull bit old. Yeah
[18:12.660 -> 18:14.660] It's got Aston Martin on it
[18:14.660 -> 18:16.660] Horner had a word with you about that
[18:16.660 -> 18:18.660] Yeah Horner did, he told me it was old
[18:18.660 -> 18:20.660] If only we knew someone at Red Bull that could get us some
[18:20.660 -> 18:22.660] Yeah, that'd be handy
[18:22.660 -> 18:24.660] Laughter
[18:24.660 -> 18:32.200] Oh Lord It's not just the fitness though, it's so mental I guess. You have to be in their head
[18:32.200 -> 18:35.840] and understand how they're feeling when they're happy, when they're sad, when things are going
[18:35.840 -> 18:41.600] on. So on Saturday, obviously the Red Bull guys wouldn't have been happy with that qualifying
[18:41.600 -> 18:45.040] they made up for on Sunday, they were buzzing about it. But on Saturday, sorry,
[18:45.040 -> 18:47.000] when Max gets out of that car and he's 10th,
[18:47.000 -> 18:48.760] what's your job straight away?
[18:48.760 -> 18:50.160] Like when he gets out and talks to you,
[18:50.160 -> 18:52.000] like what are you thinking at that point?
[18:52.000 -> 18:54.760] Yeah, keep him away from any media
[18:54.760 -> 18:56.240] so he doesn't say anything stupid.
[18:56.240 -> 18:57.880] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[18:57.880 -> 19:00.040] That's why he's my favorite driver though, I love Max.
[19:00.040 -> 19:02.400] I can just imagine him in his head being flying to Zaytun.
[19:02.400 -> 19:03.360] That brings me on to like,
[19:03.360 -> 19:05.460] we were watching the Senna documentary. Okay.
[19:05.460 -> 19:07.840] And like, they obviously didn't have that shit back in the day.
[19:07.840 -> 19:09.600] They would go on camera and just say what they wanted.
[19:09.600 -> 19:10.100] Yeah, yeah.
[19:10.100 -> 19:11.040] See, I like that.
[19:11.040 -> 19:12.480] I actually prefer that.
[19:12.480 -> 19:15.280] I actually think the sport, if it had a driver that did that now,
[19:15.280 -> 19:16.880] would take it to the next level.
[19:16.880 -> 19:19.360] I think, I know they have to be clean sponsors, brands and that,
[19:19.360 -> 19:20.880] but I genuinely think it's...
[19:20.880 -> 19:22.480] It's such a shame because Max would be probably the one.
[19:22.480 -> 19:25.320] Max would be the first to run, man.
[19:25.320 -> 19:26.320] Just got it.
[19:26.320 -> 19:26.820] Yeah.
[19:26.820 -> 19:30.920] But no, I mean, going meet him outside the FIA garage,
[19:30.920 -> 19:32.680] you know, drinks and kit.
[19:32.680 -> 19:36.360] And, you know, in moments like that,
[19:36.360 -> 19:39.040] we probably don't say too much.
[19:39.040 -> 19:43.320] You know, that sort of qualifying where, you know,
[19:43.320 -> 19:45.000] you're thinking
[19:45.000 -> 19:46.040] Ferrari are bloody quick
[19:46.040 -> 19:48.980] and they're probably going to walk away with a race now.
[19:48.980 -> 19:51.740] On Saturday, we're thinking it's hard to pass.
[19:53.160 -> 19:54.480] If we can get to fifth,
[19:54.480 -> 19:57.000] that's going to be a really bloody good race.
[19:57.000 -> 19:59.400] Obviously it turned out a lot better for us,
[19:59.400 -> 20:00.240] but in that moment,
[20:00.240 -> 20:01.760] those things just need to be processed
[20:01.760 -> 20:04.200] and then they need to head back with the engineers
[20:04.200 -> 20:06.040] and decide what they're going gonna do on the next day.
[20:06.040 -> 20:06.880] So.
[20:06.880 -> 20:08.920] You've actually got a lot of stuff that goes into your job.
[20:08.920 -> 20:12.640] Cause you're also, you're managing like emotions as well
[20:12.640 -> 20:14.240] with that guy.
[20:14.240 -> 20:15.560] Yeah, yeah, for sure.
[20:15.560 -> 20:18.000] That's the nature of sport, you know,
[20:18.000 -> 20:20.920] sport doesn't come without emotions.
[20:20.920 -> 20:22.920] You have the ups and downs, the highs and lows.
[20:22.920 -> 20:27.900] And yeah, I think it's fine to have all those.
[20:28.000 -> 20:30.000] It's always, you know, how you bounce back from that
[20:30.000 -> 20:34.880] and keep things flexible that you can cope
[20:34.880 -> 20:36.040] and bounce back with it as well.
[20:36.040 -> 20:36.880] So yeah.
[20:36.880 -> 20:39.080] Do you feel a lot of pressure on your shoulders
[20:39.080 -> 20:41.560] like doing the job that you do?
[20:42.760 -> 20:45.020] I mean, if you mess something up,
[20:45.020 -> 20:48.740] then you're potentially losing a race win from that,
[20:48.740 -> 20:51.420] you know, mess a bit, get up helmet or whatever,
[20:51.420 -> 20:56.420] or something happens and Max doesn't go into the race
[20:57.260 -> 20:58.980] in the right frame of mind or whatever.
[20:58.980 -> 21:01.780] But, you know, he's an easy one to work with in that sense
[21:01.780 -> 21:04.100] because he has such a strong mindset.
[21:04.100 -> 21:07.240] And again, probably the reason why we get on so well
[21:07.240 -> 21:09.640] is we come from very similar backgrounds.
[21:09.640 -> 21:11.200] You know, we both love to win.
[21:11.200 -> 21:15.680] We're both competitive as hell and it just works.
[21:15.680 -> 21:18.680] I've seen other relationships within the paddock where,
[21:18.680 -> 21:22.000] you know, some drivers do bad on a Saturday
[21:22.000 -> 21:24.240] and that's their weekend done.
[21:24.240 -> 21:26.060] There's no way they're going to bounce back on a Sunday
[21:26.060 -> 21:28.040] because it's just, it's too hard for them to process it.
[21:28.040 -> 21:32.000] Whereas, you know, we can, we can deal with it,
[21:32.000 -> 21:34.000] put it away and move on and, and,
[21:34.000 -> 21:36.400] and just decide on what the next target is going to be.
[21:36.400 -> 21:38.640] Yeah. You said, if you ever, if you make a mistake,
[21:38.640 -> 21:39.760] you can mess up the whole race,
[21:39.760 -> 21:41.040] like a wrong visor or anything.
[21:41.040 -> 21:42.760] Have you ever done anything that has messed up the whole
[21:42.760 -> 21:43.600] race for Matt?
[21:43.600 -> 21:44.420] Not, not the whole race.
[21:44.420 -> 21:46.280] No, I've had a had a few hairy moments.
[21:46.280 -> 21:47.480] Really, what's the worst?
[21:47.480 -> 21:51.240] It's two things at the same time, both times.
[21:51.240 -> 21:54.040] And it's leaving, there's like a safety strip
[21:54.040 -> 21:56.400] on the inside of a visor.
[21:56.400 -> 21:57.560] And what's that?
[21:57.560 -> 21:59.640] It's like an anti-fog strip.
[21:59.640 -> 22:00.880] Oh, okay, yeah, yeah.
[22:00.880 -> 22:01.720] I've seen it on the outside
[22:01.720 -> 22:03.680] and they like rip it off, didn't they?
[22:03.680 -> 22:05.240] So that's a tear off.
[22:05.240 -> 22:07.520] So the tear offs are, you know,
[22:07.520 -> 22:10.640] if you get a stone that hits your visor and it chips it,
[22:10.640 -> 22:12.400] you can tear the bit of plastic off.
[22:12.400 -> 22:14.000] Also it actually stays on for the race.
[22:14.000 -> 22:14.840] Cause yeah.
[22:14.840 -> 22:16.540] Yeah, you've got nine tear offs on there.
[22:16.540 -> 22:18.880] You tear it off and you've got a clean, clean visor.
[22:18.880 -> 22:21.280] So if then that gets dirty, they tear it off, clean visor.
[22:21.280 -> 22:22.120] There's nine of them.
[22:22.120 -> 22:22.960] Yeah, there's nine of them on there.
[22:22.960 -> 22:24.240] Oh shit.
[22:24.240 -> 22:28.420] But so the anti-fog strip on the inside, if if you leave that on they can't see through the visor
[22:37.120 -> 22:39.120] Just before enough quality Oh
[22:40.520 -> 22:42.940] Literally everyone's waiting just to let him out of quality and you know
[22:42.940 -> 22:45.780] It's counting down the clocks counting down needs to get out and do his lap.
[22:45.780 -> 22:48.220] And I'm there with a pair of scissors trying to like scrape,
[22:48.220 -> 22:50.780] cause it's very hard to get if you haven't done it
[22:50.780 -> 22:52.060] before you put the visor on.
[22:52.060 -> 22:53.740] They're trying to scrape it off with a pair of scissors
[22:53.740 -> 22:56.580] and try and just catch the end so I can put it off.
[22:56.580 -> 22:58.400] We lost like 30 seconds,
[22:58.400 -> 23:01.060] like going out of the box at quality.
[23:01.060 -> 23:02.500] Probably another 15 more seconds,
[23:02.500 -> 23:03.540] we wouldn't have had time for a lap.
[23:03.540 -> 23:05.360] I bet you still come first though, didn't he?
[23:05.360 -> 23:08.760] I don't think he did at that time.
[23:08.760 -> 23:09.760] We'll just say he did.
[23:09.760 -> 23:10.600] Top three, top three.
[23:10.600 -> 23:13.120] Wow, what a crazy story.
[23:13.120 -> 23:14.840] Yeah, diet must be like a big thing as well.
[23:14.840 -> 23:17.000] Like if he was like two tenths off the pace
[23:17.000 -> 23:17.840] and then you realize, oh,
[23:17.840 -> 23:19.480] I gave him that chocolate bar before the race.
[23:19.480 -> 23:23.200] Did that kind of shit happen with that?
[23:23.200 -> 23:25.000] Yeah, a kilo relates to two or three temps.
[23:29.540 -> 23:32.100] So kilo overweight would relate to about two or three,
[23:32.100 -> 23:34.340] two or three hundreds, sorry, two or three hundreds.
[23:34.340 -> 23:36.860] Well, it's small margins, but it matters.
[23:36.860 -> 23:37.700] Yeah.
[23:39.020 -> 23:44.020] I remember in Russia, 2020, I think we were beaten
[23:47.860 -> 23:49.720] to a pole by two hundreds of a second. So if he was overweight at that time,
[23:49.720 -> 23:51.300] then it could have come down to that.
[23:51.300 -> 23:52.700] We weren't, so it was good, but.
[23:52.700 -> 23:53.540] Yeah.
[23:53.540 -> 23:54.740] Yeah, we see him like always weigh them
[23:54.740 -> 23:55.740] after the race and stuff.
[23:55.740 -> 23:57.200] Why do they weigh them after the race?
[23:57.200 -> 24:02.100] So there's a regulation on what the weight can be.
[24:02.100 -> 24:07.080] So driver plus kit, plus the seat needs to be 80 kilos.
[24:08.040 -> 24:12.920] If you're underweight, i.e. driver, seat and kit
[24:12.920 -> 24:15.820] comes in at 75 kilos, then the engineers have to put
[24:15.820 -> 24:18.320] five kilos of ballast into the car.
[24:18.320 -> 24:19.640] So it's even for everyone.
[24:19.640 -> 24:21.080] Yeah.
[24:21.080 -> 24:21.920] What's ballast?
[24:21.920 -> 24:23.640] We've spoke about this before.
[24:23.640 -> 24:24.640] We were like, what's ballast?
[24:24.640 -> 24:26.560] And I was like, oh, they just chuck some sand, like.
[24:26.560 -> 24:29.400] Is this where I thought they actually put sandbags?
[24:29.400 -> 24:31.360] Like ballast is like stone and sand together.
[24:31.360 -> 24:34.200] So yeah, I just thought they'd just chuck in a few stones.
[24:34.200 -> 24:37.280] I was saying that they'd actually just get a sandbag.
[24:37.280 -> 24:38.680] We've been rinsed quite a lot recently.
[24:38.680 -> 24:41.280] So they can put the weight kind of almost where they like.
[24:41.280 -> 24:43.280] They can position it a little bit nicely
[24:43.280 -> 24:44.560] for where they want it to be.
[24:44.560 -> 24:46.640] But, but yeah, if you say it basically takes it away kind of almost where they like that. You can position it a little bit nicely for where they want it to be.
[24:50.460 -> 24:53.460] So it basically takes it away from drivers being underweight for performance reasons.
[24:55.260 -> 24:59.380] So your kit weighs, so the seat weighs 1.5 kilos,
[24:59.380 -> 25:02.500] kit weighs about four, four and a half kilos.
[25:02.500 -> 25:07.480] So a driver's weight can be 74, 74 and a half kilos. So a driver's weight can be 74, 74 and a half kilos.
[25:09.440 -> 25:12.400] There's no benefit for a driver to be 60 kilos
[25:12.400 -> 25:13.680] versus 70 kilos.
[25:13.680 -> 25:14.520] Yeah.
[25:14.520 -> 25:15.340] Cause they're just gonna put the stuff in.
[25:15.340 -> 25:16.180] They're gonna put it in.
[25:16.180 -> 25:17.020] Yeah.
[25:17.020 -> 25:19.720] Whereas before there was a big benefit
[25:19.720 -> 25:22.380] from a driver being 60 kilos rather than 70 kilos.
[25:22.380 -> 25:24.080] So you had drivers starving themselves,
[25:24.080 -> 25:25.200] sitting in saunas. Oh shit. It's lap time. Yeah, yeah, I suppose. It's more lap time. So they had drivers starving themselves, sitting in saunas.
[25:25.200 -> 25:26.600] It's lap time.
[25:26.600 -> 25:27.840] Yeah, yeah, I suppose.
[25:27.840 -> 25:28.680] It's more lap time.
[25:28.680 -> 25:30.640] So they had the same thing in horse racing, didn't they?
[25:30.640 -> 25:33.320] Where Drocky's trying to be as low a weight as possible,
[25:33.320 -> 25:35.760] but now they have weight restrictions there as well.
[25:35.760 -> 25:38.400] When did they introduce the ballast then to the cars?
[25:38.400 -> 25:39.960] Oh, I'm not sure.
[25:39.960 -> 25:41.080] It was before my time.
[25:42.400 -> 25:44.720] It was only in like the last 10 years.
[25:44.720 -> 25:46.240] So it was a fairly recent thing.
[25:46.240 -> 25:48.320] Were you into Formula One before you got this job?
[25:48.320 -> 25:49.160] Absolutely not.
[25:49.160 -> 25:50.000] I love that.
[25:50.000 -> 25:50.840] That's sick.
[25:50.840 -> 25:53.280] That's like us, we've been, well, not like us,
[25:53.280 -> 25:54.240] because you work with the world champion,
[25:54.240 -> 25:55.080] not calling a job.
[25:55.080 -> 25:56.360] Oh, we will one day.
[25:56.360 -> 25:57.200] We will one day.
[25:57.200 -> 25:59.000] We'll have Max at it.
[25:59.000 -> 26:00.720] Yeah, that would be amazing.
[26:00.720 -> 26:02.160] That would be leg.
[26:02.160 -> 26:03.400] Yeah, like we're learning as well.
[26:03.400 -> 26:04.240] Yeah.
[26:04.240 -> 26:08.160] There's a lot for you to learn. I was Googling who Max Verstappen was at the airport
[26:08.160 -> 26:09.200] whilst I was going to meet him.
[26:09.200 -> 26:10.040] No.
[26:10.040 -> 26:10.860] Wow.
[26:10.860 -> 26:14.020] So it was a bit of like a crazy last minute thing
[26:14.020 -> 26:14.860] that you...
[26:14.860 -> 26:15.680] Yeah, it came around quick.
[26:15.680 -> 26:18.540] Obviously they finished the season
[26:18.540 -> 26:21.260] and then they were sorting it out after that.
[26:21.260 -> 26:23.900] So I think last race in Abu Dhabi
[26:23.900 -> 26:25.160] was probably like the fifthth or 6th of
[26:25.160 -> 26:30.120] December at that time. And I think I met him on like the 16th.
[26:30.120 -> 26:32.920] Of course you've only got three or four months until the season kicks off again.
[26:32.920 -> 26:39.680] Yeah, it was literally that. So I was in Monaco I think the 4th or 5th of January
[26:39.680 -> 26:44.440] ready to start pre-season from that time. So yeah, it happened quickly.
[26:44.440 -> 26:46.360] Because like you said, ultimately,
[26:46.360 -> 26:48.280] they get people put in front of them
[26:48.280 -> 26:49.360] and they want to pick someone,
[26:49.360 -> 26:51.720] they want to spend their time with that they trust
[26:51.720 -> 26:52.560] and whatever.
[26:52.560 -> 26:55.160] So you must have really created such an amazing friendship
[26:55.160 -> 26:56.320] from the beginning.
[26:56.320 -> 26:59.800] Do you feel like it became a lot stronger last year?
[26:59.800 -> 27:01.800] Because as we know, last year was amazing.
[27:01.800 -> 27:03.200] Such an incredible season.
[27:03.200 -> 27:05.740] It's probably so many highs, so many lows.
[27:05.740 -> 27:06.980] What that would have been,
[27:06.980 -> 27:08.720] was that like a hard season for you?
[27:08.720 -> 27:11.060] What was that whole year like?
[27:11.060 -> 27:12.160] The year was super fun.
[27:13.300 -> 27:15.940] I think it only got a little bit tricky towards the end.
[27:15.940 -> 27:18.660] Where, you know, the tension was building so much.
[27:18.660 -> 27:23.500] It was, you know, there was almost hatred
[27:23.500 -> 27:25.640] developing between Red Bull and Mercedes.
[27:25.640 -> 27:27.600] You know, they were next to each other in the paddock
[27:27.600 -> 27:29.920] and you could feel the tension from,
[27:29.920 -> 27:31.880] probably from Brazil onwards.
[27:31.880 -> 27:34.000] So Brazil, Saudi, Abu Dhabi,
[27:34.000 -> 27:35.440] there was real tension there.
[27:35.440 -> 27:36.280] Wow.
[27:36.280 -> 27:38.400] There was a few comments between Toto and Christian,
[27:38.400 -> 27:39.240] weren't there?
[27:39.240 -> 27:40.060] I remember hearing them too.
[27:40.060 -> 27:41.700] Yeah, and you know, they're normally there and stuff,
[27:41.700 -> 27:43.840] but it was the whole team.
[27:43.840 -> 27:44.680] Like everyone knew.
[27:44.680 -> 27:46.160] You weren't even like the crews and that.
[27:46.160 -> 27:50.240] Yeah, everyone knew how close we were to beating them.
[27:50.240 -> 27:53.560] And it was really a case of, you know,
[27:53.560 -> 27:55.000] if we mess up, it's going to be it.
[27:55.000 -> 27:56.840] Like, we're going to lose this championship.
[27:56.840 -> 27:58.840] It was that tight, it really was.
[28:00.160 -> 28:03.240] But you know, that's what you're in sport for.
[28:03.240 -> 28:04.800] It's good fun.
[28:04.800 -> 28:05.080] When, at the beginning of last season, when you were working with Max, like after pre-season, I say pre-season training, But, you know, that's what you're in sport for. It's good fun.
[28:05.080 -> 28:06.120] At the beginning of last season,
[28:06.120 -> 28:07.120] when you were working with Max,
[28:07.120 -> 28:08.400] like after pre-season,
[28:08.400 -> 28:10.600] I say pre-season training, like it's football.
[28:10.600 -> 28:11.440] Was it called?
[28:11.440 -> 28:12.260] It's exactly the same.
[28:12.260 -> 28:13.100] Is it the same? Yeah.
[28:13.100 -> 28:14.120] Like before last season?
[28:14.120 -> 28:15.200] Yeah.
[28:15.200 -> 28:16.680] Do you, when you were speaking to Max,
[28:16.680 -> 28:17.900] I know he's always out there to win
[28:17.900 -> 28:19.320] and always wants to be world champion,
[28:19.320 -> 28:20.640] like of course he does.
[28:20.640 -> 28:22.720] But did, do you think at the beginning of last season,
[28:22.720 -> 28:24.280] he thought he would win the championship
[28:24.280 -> 28:26.040] or he thought he could? Did he think, did he you think at the beginning of last season he thought he would win the championship or he thought he could did he think did he
[28:26.040 -> 28:32.440] think the car was ready? Not until we were probably in Bahrain first race
[28:32.440 -> 28:37.680] when we didn't win the race but we probably should have done yeah we only
[28:37.680 -> 28:42.560] lost because we went off track at turn four and had to give the position back
[28:42.560 -> 28:46.320] from then we thought hang on a, we've got a quick car.
[28:46.320 -> 28:47.160] Yeah.
[28:48.000 -> 28:50.920] And then I think we ran one the next couple of races
[28:50.920 -> 28:52.440] and that was that, so.
[28:52.440 -> 28:54.120] That must be so exciting work on one.
[28:54.120 -> 28:57.080] I must just be saying, the frills, the highs must be,
[28:57.080 -> 28:58.760] well, we saw you on TV, like we were saying,
[28:58.760 -> 28:59.920] when you and Callum were standing there
[28:59.920 -> 29:00.760] and he runs over you.
[29:00.760 -> 29:02.200] Oh yeah, the emotions that all you guys feel
[29:02.200 -> 29:03.600] when you get a win. It's so alleged.
[29:03.600 -> 29:04.440] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[29:04.440 -> 29:06.240] That must be the most rewarding part of your job though,
[29:06.240 -> 29:08.000] is that the big celebration like that?
[29:08.000 -> 29:09.280] Yeah, yeah, a hundred percent.
[29:09.280 -> 29:13.760] It's what you're in sport for.
[29:13.760 -> 29:16.080] Like you want to be competitive, you want to win.
[29:16.080 -> 29:19.960] And every week you want to have that chance of winning.
[29:19.960 -> 29:21.640] Yeah, I don't know.
[29:21.640 -> 29:22.840] Obviously people do.
[29:22.840 -> 29:26.400] I think I would definitely find it difficult
[29:26.400 -> 29:28.160] to be maybe at the other end of the paddock.
[29:28.160 -> 29:30.220] I know you then set your own goals
[29:30.220 -> 29:31.600] and what you want to achieve.
[29:31.600 -> 29:35.600] But yeah, I love winning.
[29:35.600 -> 29:37.360] Yeah, you're a winner.
[29:37.360 -> 29:41.120] And I feel like Red Bull are known for being,
[29:41.120 -> 29:42.000] for their parties.
[29:42.000 -> 29:44.440] I know in Monaco, they have like the pool party, is it?
[29:44.440 -> 29:45.240] Or the boat party or something like that? Yeah, yeah, Monaco party. Saturday know in Monaco, they have like the pool party, is it? Or the boat party or something like that?
[29:45.240 -> 29:46.880] Yeah, yeah, yeah, Monaco party.
[29:46.880 -> 29:49.240] Saturday night in Monaco is very good.
[29:49.240 -> 29:50.360] Saturday night?
[29:50.360 -> 29:51.200] Saturday night.
[29:51.200 -> 29:52.020] Before the race?
[29:52.020 -> 29:52.860] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[29:52.860 -> 29:54.960] Yeah, not many of the team are out,
[29:54.960 -> 29:57.760] but that's their kind of big party
[29:57.760 -> 29:59.920] where all the VIP guests are there.
[29:59.920 -> 30:00.760] Do you get to go?
[30:00.760 -> 30:02.120] If you go to Monaco, yeah.
[30:02.120 -> 30:02.960] Yeah.
[30:02.960 -> 30:03.800] Yeah.
[30:03.800 -> 30:11.400] He's there. Sunday morning, he's crawling out of bed. I'm slightly lucky that I just sit a little bit outside of the team.
[30:11.400 -> 30:18.840] But yeah, we've got the energy station, which is built in the harbour itself, four floors,
[30:18.840 -> 30:19.840] pool on the top.
[30:19.840 -> 30:20.840] Is that where it is?
[30:20.840 -> 30:21.840] Yeah, I saw the videos.
[30:21.840 -> 30:22.840] Is that just for Red Bull?
[30:22.840 -> 30:23.840] Yeah, just for Red Bull.
[30:23.840 -> 30:29.880] But then, you know, you have 2000 guests there on a Saturday night and everybody in one
[30:29.880 -> 30:31.880] I can always be at that point
[30:32.320 -> 30:36.280] Because like we say they're just covering so many different sports that they've moved with the times
[30:36.280 -> 30:39.540] They're just so unbelievable how many sports are involved in
[30:41.080 -> 30:43.080] 200
[30:44.000 -> 30:45.300] I've always loved Red Bull
[30:45.300 -> 30:47.100] cause I love like mountain biking.
[30:47.100 -> 30:47.940] Okay, cool.
[30:47.940 -> 30:49.540] And like skateboard, that kind of extreme sports
[30:49.540 -> 30:51.940] and like Red Bull are the best for that.
[30:51.940 -> 30:52.780] Yeah, yeah.
[30:52.780 -> 30:54.460] They're in all of those, all those different ones
[30:54.460 -> 30:55.900] with the snowboarding and the skiing
[30:55.900 -> 30:59.220] and they got break dancers that they serve.
[30:59.220 -> 31:00.340] Wow.
[31:00.340 -> 31:01.160] Yeah, yeah.
[31:01.160 -> 31:02.420] It's cool, really cool.
[31:02.420 -> 31:03.900] Do you, the guy, that was a question
[31:03.900 -> 31:06.000] I wanted to ask you earlier when you said about Simon,
[31:06.000 -> 31:09.000] are you the guy who takes Max's race suit to the race or will that already be there?
[31:09.000 -> 31:13.000] It'll already be there. Yeah, so I pack up the bag on a Sunday night and then...
[31:13.000 -> 31:14.000] Takes it to the race.
[31:14.000 -> 31:15.000] Yeah.
[31:15.000 -> 31:19.000] I just wonder how many he has, because I put it on on a Saturday for a team or whatever,
[31:19.000 -> 31:22.000] like someone takes the kit home and washes it.
[31:22.000 -> 31:24.000] Someone takes the kit home and washes it for Max.
[31:24.000 -> 31:26.400] Yeah, so on a Friday night I take the kit home and wash it. Do you actually? kit home and wash it for Max? Yeah, so on a Friday night, I take the kit home and wash it.
[31:26.400 -> 31:26.900] Do you actually?
[31:26.900 -> 31:28.000] Yeah, after the two practices.
[31:28.000 -> 31:28.400] See, it was worth asking.
[31:28.400 -> 31:29.200] Where do you wash it?
[31:29.200 -> 31:30.000] You wash it yourself?
[31:30.000 -> 31:30.800] Hotel laundry.
[31:30.800 -> 31:31.800] Hotel.
[31:31.800 -> 31:35.400] I just throw it in a bath, put a bit of shampoo on it, rub it around.
[31:35.400 -> 31:36.600] Hand washing it in the sink.
[31:36.600 -> 31:39.400] Take that back to the room.
[31:39.400 -> 31:41.200] Then I drop it off at a reception and go,
[31:41.200 -> 31:43.000] I'll go back to the hotel.
[31:43.000 -> 31:43.800] That's all right.
[31:43.800 -> 31:46.000] So you just have like one suit or a couple of them?
[31:46.000 -> 31:48.000] Nah, no, so for a race weekend,
[31:48.000 -> 31:50.240] we'll have six items of each pair of kit.
[31:50.240 -> 31:52.120] Ah, that makes perfect sense.
[31:52.120 -> 31:52.960] I suppose it is-
[31:52.960 -> 31:54.280] You can get away with four.
[31:54.280 -> 31:56.200] I don't think you could do less than four.
[31:56.200 -> 31:57.040] Oh, okay.
[31:57.040 -> 31:58.760] It's not often that the suit would get damaged,
[31:58.760 -> 31:59.800] although in the last race,
[31:59.800 -> 32:00.960] I saw Lewis Hamilton had like,
[32:00.960 -> 32:02.200] he had ripped his suit there.
[32:02.200 -> 32:03.020] Okay.
[32:03.020 -> 32:04.640] But do you get many, anything like that?
[32:05.600 -> 32:07.400] Unless obviously there's a giant crash, but you'd.
[32:07.400 -> 32:08.920] Yeah, no, not really.
[32:10.520 -> 32:13.840] Yeah, no, it's generally all fine.
[32:13.840 -> 32:15.920] We had a couple of occasions where, you know,
[32:15.920 -> 32:17.720] we get sent the wrong size boots or something
[32:17.720 -> 32:22.640] and then we're trying to find a size that he can wear.
[32:22.640 -> 32:24.240] He's got his special pair, like a gold pair or something.
[32:24.240 -> 32:28.680] Yeah, I don't know if you remember in Baku last year,
[32:28.680 -> 32:32.160] he was wearing a blue pair of boots.
[32:32.160 -> 32:33.280] You can check back and do that.
[32:33.280 -> 32:35.200] But that was basically because we were sent
[32:35.200 -> 32:40.200] the wrong size boots and we borrowed off of someone in F2.
[32:41.320 -> 32:42.160] Oh really?
[32:42.160 -> 32:42.980] The same size boot?
[32:42.980 -> 32:43.820] I wonder who that was.
[32:43.820 -> 32:44.660] That's hilarious.
[32:44.660 -> 32:46.040] It was Liam Lawson.
[32:46.040 -> 32:48.320] Oh, so were you running around trying to find someone?
[32:48.320 -> 32:50.280] Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
[32:50.280 -> 32:53.760] Well, the thing was, can I get Max's boots out here?
[32:53.760 -> 32:55.520] Baku's a tricky place to get to.
[32:55.520 -> 32:59.520] So, like the last of the flights really had gone,
[32:59.520 -> 33:01.240] because if there was a flight,
[33:01.240 -> 33:02.480] they would have put someone on the flight
[33:02.480 -> 33:05.200] with the boots to come out and hand them over.
[33:06.120 -> 33:11.200] But we just couldn't make it work. So we had to find an alternative.
[33:11.200 -> 33:13.600] The next best thing, some pre-owned boots.
[33:13.600 -> 33:14.200] Yeah.
[33:14.200 -> 33:17.600] I like how everything in Formula One seems so streamlined and perfect,
[33:17.600 -> 33:20.000] but then every now and then you have those little bits where it's like...
[33:20.600 -> 33:24.800] That's what I love about this pod though, because we're going to get people on and give people the opportunity to talk about it.
[33:24.800 -> 33:25.720] Yeah. And like just get these... We seem to get people on and give people the opportunity to talk about it. Yeah.
[33:25.720 -> 33:28.400] We seem to get like exclusives out of random people,
[33:28.400 -> 33:29.400] like just cool things.
[33:29.400 -> 33:31.240] Yeah. Pretty every, every guest that we've had on,
[33:31.240 -> 33:32.720] we've had like an exclusive story
[33:32.720 -> 33:34.320] that they've not told anyone else.
[33:34.320 -> 33:35.360] So if there is anything.
[33:35.360 -> 33:37.600] If there is anything crazy.
[33:37.600 -> 33:39.680] I'm not sure about that.
[33:39.680 -> 33:42.280] All right, we won't, we won't.
[33:42.000 -> 33:50.840] We've only just started. What was the party like after Abu Dhabi last year?
[33:50.840 -> 33:55.880] The party was pretty spectacular, yeah.
[33:55.880 -> 34:02.840] We started off at the main hotel at the track, the W, so like an outdoor party, a couple
[34:02.840 -> 34:04.880] of drinks there and then we moved to the Red Bull Yacht.
[34:04.880 -> 34:13.520] Oh yeah, that's where the real party started. said like an outdoor outdoor party a couple of drinks there and then we moved to the Red Bull yacht and I think we all got off the yacht around 7 a.m. and do
[34:13.520 -> 34:17.280] you know what cracked me up is that the recent video it was a Checo one Monaco
[34:17.280 -> 34:21.320] and he's coming off the boat and he's really drunk
[34:21.320 -> 34:25.440] there's a few news bits around that, wasn't there? Yeah.
[34:25.440 -> 34:28.520] But to me, it's important because it shows,
[34:28.520 -> 34:30.300] like, and Drive to Survive has done the same
[34:30.300 -> 34:31.140] for the sport as well.
[34:31.140 -> 34:32.280] These people are human.
[34:32.280 -> 34:33.120] Yeah.
[34:33.120 -> 34:35.480] Like before the sport, like you never,
[34:35.480 -> 34:38.080] and I just don't think that the people ever felt
[34:38.080 -> 34:39.800] like real people, the drivers, sorry,
[34:39.800 -> 34:41.960] because you never saw anything about them.
[34:41.960 -> 34:43.800] But when you do get little glimpses of like,
[34:43.800 -> 34:45.600] oh yeah, he's actually just a normal bloke.
[34:45.600 -> 34:47.360] Yeah, I think with Drive to Survive,
[34:47.360 -> 34:50.840] no one really knew that there was like stories
[34:50.840 -> 34:51.820] within the paddock, did they?
[34:51.820 -> 34:52.660] No.
[34:52.660 -> 34:55.200] You turn up at weekend, you drive a car around the track
[34:55.200 -> 34:56.080] and you go home.
[34:56.080 -> 35:00.080] Like no one really kind of knew all this stuff was going on.
[35:00.080 -> 35:03.040] So yes, it's been super cool for the sport, really has been.
[35:03.040 -> 35:08.480] We noticed that F1, like the paddocks quite- We'll be back as well. We're in it next year. Oh, yeah. Yeah
[35:08.480 -> 35:13.320] Oh, yeah, Max had it out the last one. Yeah, it's that the last two. Yeah
[35:13.840 -> 35:15.280] So yeah, we're we're back
[35:15.280 -> 35:18.960] I think we might be in it as well because we've been lingering about the paddock when the cameras have been
[35:19.640 -> 35:22.000] Wandering around the camera every time we see it. Yeah
[35:23.720 -> 35:27.520] We've been to... Imola, Barcelona and Silverstone.
[35:27.520 -> 35:28.360] Okay, wicked.
[35:28.360 -> 35:30.480] And somehow we've managed to get in the paddock every time.
[35:30.480 -> 35:31.320] So we've been pretty happy about that.
[35:31.320 -> 35:32.800] Every time we find a way in.
[35:32.800 -> 35:33.640] That's cool.
[35:33.640 -> 35:34.600] Even if we have to sneak in,
[35:34.600 -> 35:35.440] but we won't talk about that.
[35:35.440 -> 35:37.200] Oh, that's the funny story.
[35:37.200 -> 35:39.440] We were sat on the balcony talking about this last night.
[35:39.440 -> 35:42.200] It feels like us coming into the paddocks,
[35:42.200 -> 35:44.480] the first time was a bit of a surreal experience.
[35:44.480 -> 35:47.440] Cause we were like, we're just two lads, started a podcast, what the hell are we
[35:47.440 -> 35:51.040] doing in the paddock? But you walk up and down and obviously you've got Mercedes
[35:51.040 -> 35:54.720] and Red Bull down the other end and they're like the big dogs and like we
[35:54.720 -> 35:57.600] managed to get into a few of the other paddocks, like we've been in Alpine,
[35:57.600 -> 36:01.840] Williams and stuff but every time we walk past the Red Bull, it's just
[36:01.840 -> 36:10.760] like this fortress that we feel like we haven't got access to yeah we don't know anybody right well you know next time give me a
[36:10.760 -> 36:14.240] call and you can come and grab a Red Bull
[36:20.240 -> 36:26.720] you did say though it's such a cool-looking it's like, guys, I'm with Max, like, yeah, you did say though, you did say. It's such a cool looking motorhome as well, it looks legit, it's like a castle, isn't it?
[36:26.720 -> 36:28.280] Yeah, they're all massive,
[36:28.280 -> 36:29.640] but I don't know how they move all that stuff around.
[36:29.640 -> 36:31.640] Yeah, would you have seen that really big one?
[36:31.640 -> 36:33.000] Yeah, that was Nimla, yeah, yeah, yeah,
[36:33.000 -> 36:34.480] you would have seen the massive one, yeah.
[36:34.480 -> 36:36.360] So we have a couple of different specs that we run,
[36:36.360 -> 36:37.840] but for the main races,
[36:37.840 -> 36:41.840] there's like a four floor, huge building.
[36:41.840 -> 36:42.800] Four floors?
[36:42.800 -> 36:44.720] Yeah, yeah, it's pretty cool.
[36:44.720 -> 36:48.840] Blimey, hopefully he gets to go in that one. Yeah, it's pretty pretty cool
[36:50.840 -> 36:51.440] You have any more races plan
[36:57.300 -> 37:03.180] Yeah, Abu Dhabi, we're gonna have a W. Yeah. Oh, we're given loads of exclusive a for audience now. It shouldn't know that Oh, yeah, we'll bleep us what we said. Okay, we're also going to Dutch Grand Prix. Yeah, we could yeah is proper cool
[37:03.180 -> 37:05.820] I can't wait for that. Is that a good one?
[37:05.820 -> 37:08.420] The atmosphere around that is just unreal.
[37:08.420 -> 37:10.520] Like the only way I can describe it.
[37:10.520 -> 37:13.160] So I've only done Formula One for years.
[37:13.160 -> 37:14.560] It's not my sport.
[37:14.560 -> 37:16.620] There's guys that have done it for 25 years
[37:16.620 -> 37:17.460] and they turn around and say,
[37:17.460 -> 37:19.920] I've never seen an atmosphere like Holland last year.
[37:19.920 -> 37:22.920] And it was only 70% full last year for fans
[37:22.920 -> 37:25.560] because it was still kind of coming out of COVID.
[37:25.560 -> 37:27.280] So this year is a hundred percent.
[37:27.280 -> 37:28.400] And the only way I can describe it,
[37:28.400 -> 37:29.280] because I'm a football fan as well,
[37:29.280 -> 37:31.120] the only way I can describe it is,
[37:31.120 -> 37:34.480] it is a huge, you know, European champions league,
[37:34.480 -> 37:37.640] semi-final night, second leg, you're two nil down.
[37:37.640 -> 37:39.200] You know, it's, it is that.
[37:39.200 -> 37:42.640] It's going to be, I'm going to get so drunk.
[37:42.640 -> 37:45.600] That's the great thing about what we did.
[37:45.600 -> 37:46.680] We can drink during the day.
[37:46.680 -> 37:48.000] Yeah, I can't.
[37:48.000 -> 37:50.960] We just drink, then we have a party the whole time.
[37:50.960 -> 37:52.280] Pretty much, yeah.
[37:52.280 -> 37:54.880] Yeah, when we were in Imola, we got on Ted's notebook.
[37:54.880 -> 37:55.720] Okay.
[37:55.720 -> 37:56.540] And we were already like,
[37:56.540 -> 37:59.120] three quarters of the way.
[37:59.120 -> 37:59.960] Two of these two jokers.
[37:59.960 -> 38:01.560] We had no idea we were going on it.
[38:01.560 -> 38:03.480] We'd done two bottles of wine at lunch,
[38:03.480 -> 38:04.880] gin and tonics, everything.
[38:04.880 -> 38:06.440] And then our manager was like,
[38:06.440 -> 38:08.400] oh yeah, do you want to go to Teth's notebook?
[38:08.400 -> 38:10.320] And we literally had to walk over there
[38:10.320 -> 38:12.880] and we were like, oh, hello.
[38:12.880 -> 38:14.400] We're standing there like melons,
[38:14.400 -> 38:16.520] so scared on camera for the first time.
[38:16.520 -> 38:17.960] Yeah, it feels like ages ago now.
[38:17.960 -> 38:19.040] It does feel like ages ago now.
[38:19.040 -> 38:20.600] Cause now we feel like we're actually,
[38:20.600 -> 38:22.080] we're actually welcomed in the paddock a bit more.
[38:22.080 -> 38:24.800] We see people, people seem to know who we are.
[38:24.800 -> 38:26.360] I like hearing who does and who doesn't,
[38:26.360 -> 38:28.400] and where, cause we had a Formula E driver
[38:28.400 -> 38:29.480] on the other day and he was saying like
[38:29.480 -> 38:31.600] all their media team and people knew us.
[38:31.600 -> 38:34.080] So it's like really interesting to just hear
[38:34.080 -> 38:35.440] who's spoken about or what,
[38:35.440 -> 38:37.480] cause we've had different guests from different places.
[38:37.480 -> 38:38.320] Yeah, yeah.
[38:38.320 -> 38:39.840] Like, you know, Will Buxton.
[38:39.840 -> 38:40.660] Yep.
[38:40.660 -> 38:41.500] He was our first ever guest.
[38:41.500 -> 38:44.020] And he like gambled on us from the beginning,
[38:44.020 -> 38:46.800] like came on before we'd even started really.
[38:46.800 -> 38:48.600] So it's just led to that now we like see him
[38:48.600 -> 38:49.760] and we're like, oh, that's cool.
[38:49.760 -> 38:50.600] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[38:50.600 -> 38:53.480] It's nice to have like people we know
[38:53.480 -> 38:55.200] so we can get into Red Bull.
[38:55.200 -> 38:56.040] There you go.
[38:56.040 -> 38:57.960] That's it, Red Bull is the key.
[38:58.960 -> 39:01.400] We have a lot of people message us, like fans and that,
[39:01.400 -> 39:03.160] and they say like, you know,
[39:03.160 -> 39:05.820] we would love to work in the Formula One at some point.
[39:05.820 -> 39:08.320] So from your point of view, do you have any advice
[39:08.320 -> 39:09.420] or anything for people who would love
[39:09.420 -> 39:10.920] to actually work in the sport?
[39:13.360 -> 39:14.200] Yeah, it's tough.
[39:14.200 -> 39:18.440] I guess from, depends from what angle you're coming at.
[39:18.440 -> 39:19.920] There's obviously a lot more opportunities
[39:19.920 -> 39:22.560] from the mechanics, engineering side.
[39:22.560 -> 39:25.560] It's not a straightforward process,
[39:25.560 -> 39:28.600] but if you go to university, do an engineering degree,
[39:28.600 -> 39:31.960] you get a internship or placement at a team
[39:31.960 -> 39:34.080] and you work your way up there.
[39:34.080 -> 39:35.960] To work in sort of my side,
[39:35.960 -> 39:37.400] it's probably a little bit trickier
[39:37.400 -> 39:38.800] in the performance field.
[39:41.920 -> 39:44.360] An easier way in if you're a physiotherapist
[39:44.360 -> 39:45.340] would probably be
[39:45.340 -> 39:49.440] try become the the physio of a team itself or work at the factory or
[39:49.440 -> 39:54.520] something along those lines you know you can start off at Formula 3 teams or go
[39:54.520 -> 40:00.640] karting you know any grassroots sort of level stuff that you you can do. To work
[40:00.640 -> 40:05.040] up to a performance coach for a Formula One driver, that's, you know.
[40:05.040 -> 40:07.440] It's very much the top of the tree.
[40:07.440 -> 40:08.280] I mean, there's only 20 Formula One drivers.
[40:08.280 -> 40:10.680] It is, I mean, if you think of Formula One drivers
[40:10.680 -> 40:12.440] to get to become a Formula One driver,
[40:12.440 -> 40:13.480] you know, there's only 20 in the world.
[40:13.480 -> 40:14.320] Yeah.
[40:14.320 -> 40:16.800] So there's also only 20 performance coaches in the world
[40:16.800 -> 40:18.360] that can do that job too.
[40:19.440 -> 40:21.800] So I guess, you know, the only advice I've got is
[40:21.800 -> 40:23.560] you gotta work really hard,
[40:23.560 -> 40:26.240] become as good as you can at what you do.
[40:26.800 -> 40:28.840] You probably need to be dual qualified.
[40:28.880 -> 40:32.520] So I'm a physio and I'm a strength conditioning coach and I've got a sports
[40:32.520 -> 40:34.520] science degree. Um,
[40:34.540 -> 40:37.920] you've got sure conditioning coaches that are sports masseuses and sports
[40:37.920 -> 40:38.760] scientists as well.
[40:38.760 -> 40:43.760] So everybody's got a couple of things to their bow because you're essentially a
[40:44.080 -> 40:45.360] traveling one man band.
[40:45.360 -> 40:48.040] You need to be able to do everything required
[40:48.040 -> 40:49.520] for that driver.
[40:49.520 -> 40:52.400] Of course you can have outsourced resources,
[40:52.400 -> 40:55.440] nutritionist on hand to talk for or whatever.
[40:55.440 -> 40:57.120] But at the end of the day, you're with them
[40:57.120 -> 41:00.960] and you need to be able to cover all bases.
[41:02.960 -> 41:04.440] You can work in any sport.
[41:04.440 -> 41:06.480] Look at me, I didn't do Formula One before,
[41:06.480 -> 41:07.800] but I've worked in professional football,
[41:07.800 -> 41:09.160] I've worked in professional basketball,
[41:09.160 -> 41:11.140] I've worked with Team GB,
[41:11.140 -> 41:13.300] and then I've made myself into,
[41:13.300 -> 41:14.520] found myself into Formula One.
[41:14.520 -> 41:17.080] So, and it probably won't be the last spot I work in.
[41:17.080 -> 41:17.920] Yeah.
[41:17.920 -> 41:18.740] That's what I was going to ask you.
[41:18.740 -> 41:20.040] Yeah. Do you think, do you see yourself at Formula One
[41:20.040 -> 41:22.200] for the foreseeable now, or do you think?
[41:22.200 -> 41:23.040] I don't know.
[41:24.080 -> 41:26.200] You know, a few more years left in me yet.
[41:28.280 -> 41:30.720] Yeah, we'll just see how it goes year by year.
[41:32.520 -> 41:33.440] Yeah, no comment.
[41:33.440 -> 41:34.280] No comment?
[41:34.280 -> 41:36.080] Where do you go after Formula One?
[41:36.080 -> 41:38.040] You'd be training like astronauts next.
[41:38.040 -> 41:38.880] Yeah.
[41:38.880 -> 41:39.700] What else could you do?
[41:39.700 -> 41:42.640] I mean, it'd probably just be a different sport.
[41:42.640 -> 41:45.300] I think, and probably a lot of people,
[41:45.300 -> 41:47.440] you have people that spend a lot of time in Formula One,
[41:47.440 -> 41:49.940] but at the end of the day,
[41:49.940 -> 41:54.180] if you've got family and stuff, the travel is a lot.
[41:54.180 -> 41:56.900] And if they're going to add more races next year,
[41:56.900 -> 42:00.820] you know, there's potentially 24, 25 races next year.
[42:02.980 -> 42:04.580] That's half your weekends of the year
[42:04.580 -> 42:06.100] that you're traveling away.
[42:07.480 -> 42:08.720] You know, I miss a lot of weddings
[42:08.720 -> 42:12.140] and nights out with the boys and that sort of thing.
[42:12.140 -> 42:14.120] And you know, what I do is super cool.
[42:14.120 -> 42:15.520] You can't take it away from that,
[42:15.520 -> 42:17.040] but you miss that normal stuff as well.
[42:17.040 -> 42:18.280] Yeah, cause you just can't, you don't,
[42:18.280 -> 42:20.280] you can't ever just call in sick for this job.
[42:20.280 -> 42:21.120] No.
[42:21.120 -> 42:21.940] You can just turn around in a week.
[42:21.940 -> 42:23.080] What would happen if you were?
[42:23.080 -> 42:23.920] Oh my God, it's not Mackey.
[42:23.920 -> 42:24.760] Have you heard of this?
[42:24.760 -> 42:26.320] Like, you're actually been here on a weekend
[42:26.320 -> 42:29.480] and someone's had to be a cover performance coach.
[42:29.480 -> 42:31.640] Yeah, so our team physio stepped in a couple of times
[42:31.640 -> 42:33.960] when I haven't been around.
[42:33.960 -> 42:36.040] Most notably when my little girl was born.
[42:36.040 -> 42:37.000] Oh, congratulations.
[42:37.000 -> 42:37.840] So yeah, thank you.
[42:37.840 -> 42:40.120] That was last year actually,
[42:40.120 -> 42:43.040] between Portugal, no, between Imola and Portugal.
[42:44.780 -> 42:48.020] But even then it was only for a day.
[42:48.020 -> 42:50.180] So he covered Friday and I was back there on a Saturday.
[42:50.180 -> 42:53.980] And then flew home few days and then back out.
[42:53.980 -> 42:57.620] So yeah, she was born and I was back racing four days later.
[42:57.620 -> 42:58.460] Crazy.
[42:58.460 -> 42:59.280] That's nice.
[42:59.280 -> 43:00.720] That's the second question mate.
[43:00.720 -> 43:01.560] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[43:01.560 -> 43:08.360] You know, if Formula One driver is ill or they have a kid or you know, they're not gonna miss a race, are they?
[43:08.360 -> 43:10.560] No, it's true. You know, I'm not gonna miss out on 20
[43:11.640 -> 43:13.640] and race the car
[43:16.840 -> 43:21.360] We miss a race last year we lose championship, yeah, true. Wow. Yeah when you put it like that
[43:21.400 -> 43:25.720] Yeah, do you think Red Bull have it in the bag this year?
[43:27.160 -> 43:32.560] No, no, yeah, there's a long way to go as nine races to go if we have three DNFs then yeah, you know
[43:32.560 -> 43:40.320] That's that's game back on. It's a good lead. It's a good lead. But yeah, we haven't been the quickest car any race yet
[43:41.600 -> 43:44.400] You know, we've we've struggled our way through
[43:44.960 -> 43:45.320] We've won races because other teams have messed up. Yeah race yet. You know, we've struggled our way through.
[43:45.320 -> 43:49.240] We've won races because other teams have messed up.
[43:49.240 -> 43:53.080] So, you know, exactly.
[43:53.080 -> 43:55.420] But you look at that run of, I think it was five or six
[43:55.420 -> 43:59.200] races that we won, and you go through it,
[43:59.200 -> 44:02.920] Monaco, Barcelona, Ferrari should have won those,
[44:02.920 -> 44:04.160] but we ended up winning them.
[44:04.160 -> 44:06.920] So, we can't say it's over yet.
[44:06.920 -> 44:08.640] We're in a really strong position,
[44:08.640 -> 44:10.720] but there's still a long way to go.
[44:10.720 -> 44:13.040] Ask me again in Austin.
[44:13.040 -> 44:13.860] Yeah.
[44:13.860 -> 44:14.700] Oh, we really want to go to that.
[44:14.700 -> 44:15.540] We really want to go to Austin.
[44:15.540 -> 44:17.360] We desperately want to go there.
[44:17.360 -> 44:19.520] We're trying to look at like all the flights and that,
[44:19.520 -> 44:22.220] but you know, when we're only five months in,
[44:22.220 -> 44:24.240] we need to start earning a bit more money.
[44:24.240 -> 44:26.600] So we've got the money to be able to go to these places.
[44:26.600 -> 44:29.320] Cause blimey, did we spend a lot of money in Barcelona?
[44:29.320 -> 44:31.440] Yeah, we spent some serious.
[44:31.440 -> 44:33.320] It came to the last night and we had like,
[44:33.320 -> 44:35.080] I think it was like 800 quid between us.
[44:35.080 -> 44:37.520] And we were like, all right, it's our last night.
[44:37.520 -> 44:39.560] The whole lot was gone.
[44:39.560 -> 44:41.720] Oh my God, our manager was not happy, was she?
[44:41.720 -> 44:42.560] She's going to be listening to this,
[44:42.560 -> 44:44.400] we've just admitted that.
[44:44.400 -> 44:45.240] Oh shit.
[44:45.240 -> 44:46.080] Sorry.
[44:46.080 -> 44:46.900] Sorry.
[44:46.900 -> 44:47.740] Sorry.
[44:47.740 -> 44:48.580] Oh man.
[44:48.580 -> 44:51.520] But yeah, Austin's a really good one to go to.
[44:51.520 -> 44:52.560] That's definitely worth it.
[44:52.560 -> 44:53.920] I like all the American ones actually.
[44:53.920 -> 44:57.600] I like America, but there's always a big show around it.
[44:57.600 -> 44:59.080] It's always plenty to do.
[44:59.080 -> 45:01.440] Vegas is going to be nuts next year, isn't it?
[45:01.440 -> 45:03.440] That's going to be a party for the boys.
[45:03.440 -> 45:07.720] Yeah, you've got to get all your boys out to that one. I suppose you won't be able to go out anyway.
[45:07.720 -> 45:11.000] The whole time you'll look well. Stay a couple of extra days with you.
[45:11.000 -> 45:14.400] Well the party never stops in Vegas you could go out Sunday night and it would still be a ripper.
[45:14.400 -> 45:16.880] There we go Sunday night after we win.
[45:16.880 -> 45:18.160] I like that. I love it.
[45:18.160 -> 45:19.600] And we're gonna be there for sure.
[45:19.600 -> 45:22.160] Oh we'll be there. Without a shadow of a doubt.
[45:22.160 -> 45:28.360] Next year's gonna be decent man. Can't wait wait I noticed you bought your bag as well that looks like
[45:28.360 -> 45:32.000] it might have some training equipment in it I've got a few bits for me here and
[45:32.000 -> 45:37.800] a few little reaction games for you boys to try see we'll measure you against Max's scores
[45:37.800 -> 45:42.800] I got about 3 hours of sleep last night as well I'm gonna be horrendous
[45:42.800 -> 45:47.960] we're gonna be absolutely awful but yeah you'll put them videos on our Instagram and our TikTok.
[45:47.960 -> 45:50.320] Brad, thank you very much for joining us on the podcast.
[45:50.320 -> 45:51.320] No worries, it's been good fun.
[45:51.320 -> 45:52.320] Thank you so much.
[45:52.320 -> 45:54.000] You've got your new app, everything's happening for you.
[45:54.000 -> 45:55.000] What's that all about?
[45:55.000 -> 45:57.920] Yeah, so as I said, I'm a physio by trade.
[45:57.920 -> 46:04.480] I had a clinic, I had some shares in Chelmsford where I live, but juggling everything with
[46:04.480 -> 46:05.080] the travel
[46:05.080 -> 46:07.600] and a young family now as well,
[46:07.600 -> 46:08.960] going into clinic, you know,
[46:08.960 -> 46:10.180] the Monday I got back from a race
[46:10.180 -> 46:12.040] was becoming a bit unsustainable.
[46:12.040 -> 46:14.400] So I've moved everything online.
[46:14.400 -> 46:17.440] I now have the PhysioBrad app and people can sign up
[46:17.440 -> 46:21.160] and have online physio, online coaching from myself.
[46:21.160 -> 46:22.400] So can I do it?
[46:22.400 -> 46:23.240] You can, yeah.
[46:23.240 -> 46:25.780] I can be trained by Max Verstbing scope. I need that because I
[46:33.160 -> 46:35.400] Don't get those I need to get some weight
[46:43.840 -> 46:45.600] So you could sneak us in the
[46:45.600 -> 46:48.000] knighthood castle that is Red Bull in the paddock.
[46:48.000 -> 46:48.840] There we go.
[46:48.840 -> 46:49.680] Yeah.
[46:49.680 -> 46:51.920] He's like thinking, fuck, why did I say this?
[46:51.920 -> 46:53.400] Why did I say this live on a podcast?
[46:53.400 -> 46:54.240] I hate you guys, no way.
[46:54.240 -> 46:55.080] No way.
[46:55.080 -> 46:58.440] Right, we're gonna take on the Max Verstappen training now,
[46:58.440 -> 47:00.560] so you'll see the clips on our TikTok and Instagram.
[47:00.560 -> 47:02.400] Pit stop podcast, thank you for joining us
[47:02.400 -> 47:03.560] on the summer break.
[47:03.560 -> 47:07.000] There'll be another guest on Monday morning, and we'll see you guys then.
[47:07.000 -> 47:11.000] See you then guys, thanks for tuning in. Brad, thanks for being here. It's been a pleasure.
[47:11.000 -> 47:13.000] Thank you guys, appreciate it. See you later.
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