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Formula 2 driver Brad Benavides on Pitstop! What an incredible episode wow.. Brad, Thank you for being so honest with us and helping us understand all the financial struggles you and your family have been through to get you where you are today. It shows anything is possible and we love that. Best of luck for the rest of the season and we cant wait to catch up soon! Cheers mate
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**Navigating Financial Challenges in a Racing Career**
Brad Benavidez, a guest on the Pit Stop podcast hosted by Jake Boys and Fabio Bocca, shared his inspiring journey as a Formula 2 driver and the financial struggles he faced to pursue his racing aspirations.
**Humble Beginnings**
Growing up in Guatemala, Brad's initial passion for racing was ignited by watching karting races on a track near his home. Despite his family's limited financial resources, his father gifted him a small, outdated go-kart for Christmas when he was 11 years old.
**Swimming Background**
Brad's family had a strong swimming background, with his father and older brother being Olympic swimmers. Initially, Brad was also a promising swimmer, following in their footsteps. However, his true passion lay in racing.
**Transition to Karting**
At the age of 15, Brad made the difficult decision to prioritize karting over swimming. He spent five years gradually transitioning into the sport, dedicating himself to training and competing.
**Moving to Europe**
Brad's family recognized his potential and made the bold decision to move to Spain so he could pursue karting at a higher level. He began racing in Spanish competitions and eventually progressed to the World Series Karting (WSK) races, where he achieved a podium finish.
**Financial Struggles**
Despite his talent and dedication, Brad's racing career was constantly hindered by financial constraints. Each season, his family had to scramble to raise the necessary funds to cover race expenses. This often meant missing out on races or competing with limited resources.
**Balancing Sacrifice and Passion**
Brad acknowledged the sacrifices he had to make to pursue his racing dream. He trained extensively, often spending four hours a day in the gym or swimming. He also emphasized the importance of mental resilience in overcoming the challenges and setbacks he faced.
**Inspiration from Fellow Drivers**
Brad revealed that he was a fan of several Formula 2 and Formula 1 drivers before he became a racer himself. He admired their skills and achievements, and it motivated him to work harder and strive for success.
**Podium Finish and Growing Recognition**
Brad's first podium finish in a WSK race was a significant moment in his career. It boosted his confidence and brought him recognition within the karting community. He continued to move up the ranks, competing in the European championship level and finishing within the top 10.
**Ongoing Financial Hurdles**
Brad emphasized that the financial struggles he faced were not unique to him. Many aspiring racing drivers encounter similar challenges, and he hoped that his story would inspire others to persevere despite the obstacles.
**Conclusion**
Brad Benavidez's journey as a Formula 2 driver is a testament to his unwavering passion, determination, and resilience. Despite the financial hardships he encountered, he remained focused on his dream and continued to push forward. His story highlights the challenges that many aspiring racing drivers face and serves as an inspiration to those who dare to pursue their dreams, no matter the obstacles. **Introduction**
* Jake Boys and Fabio Bocca host the podcast.
**Early Career**
* Brad Benavides started karting at age 12.
* Racing in the shifter class, a race could cost up to $8,000.
* Benavides' family got better deals with the team as he began to perform well.
**Formula Renault**
* In 2019, Benavides' father had a good business opportunity and was able to afford half a season of Formula Renault.
* The budget for a full season was around $500,000.
* Benavides and Oscar Piastri were in the same race when they both crashed due to slippery conditions.
**Formula 3**
* In 2021, Benavides raced in Formula Regional, the feeder series to Formula 3.
* He had a slow car due to supply chain issues caused by COVID-19.
* Benavides pulled out of the championship after six rounds due to financial difficulties.
**Formula 2**
* Benavides' father went into debt to fund his 2022 Formula 3 season.
* In 2023, Benavides' sponsors are covering most of his Formula 2 season, but he still struggles financially.
* He sometimes has to share a hotel room with his teammate or sleep in a motorhome.
**Mindset and Motivation**
* Benavides tries not to feel burdened by his father's sacrifices and instead converts that love into more love to give back.
* He is able to switch off the pressure and race professionally.
**Sim Lap Challenge**
* Benavides set the fastest lap time on the Pit Stop sim racing challenge, beating Oscar Piastri and other drivers.
**Conclusion**
* Benavides is a talented driver who has overcome financial challenges to reach Formula 2.
* He is grateful for the support of his family and sponsors and is determined to succeed in racing. **Brad Benavides Interview: Insights, Aspirations, and Gratitude**
In this engaging podcast episode, Brad Benavides, a rising star in Formula 2, joins hosts Jake Boys and Fabio Bocca for an insightful and entertaining conversation. Brad shares his journey in racing, his aspirations, and his gratitude for the support he has received.
**Brad's Passion for Swimming and His Path to Racing:**
Brad reveals that if he hadn't pursued racing, he would have likely pursued a career in swimming. His passion for swimming stems from his early childhood, and he acknowledges that he would have dedicated himself to this sport if not for his racing career.
**Brad's Journey in Racing and His Recent Success:**
Brad discusses his journey in racing, highlighting his recent success in Formula 2. He expresses his excitement about topping the leaderboard for the fastest lap and his appreciation for the support he has received from his team and sponsors.
**Brad's Gratitude for His Sponsors and Their Support:**
Brad expresses his gratitude for his sponsors, particularly the financial advisory firm based in Dubai. He emphasizes their commitment to winning and their unwavering support, which has been instrumental in his success.
**Brad's Aspirations and His Belief in the Power of Success:**
Brad shares his aspirations for continued success in racing. He believes that the power of success breeds more success, and he draws motivation from the support of his sponsors and team.
**Celebration of Milestones: 70,000 YouTube Subscribers and Brad's Leaderboard Success:**
The hosts celebrate two significant milestones: reaching 70,000 subscribers on YouTube and Brad's achievement of topping the leaderboard for the fastest lap. They express their gratitude to the audience and Brad for their contributions to these milestones.
**Brad's Appreciation for the Support and Encouragement from the Podcast Hosts:**
Brad expresses his appreciation for the support and encouragement he has received from the podcast hosts. He acknowledges their genuine interest in his journey and their role in motivating him to achieve his goals.
**Conclusion: Brad's Positive Outlook and Gratitude for His Supporters:**
The podcast concludes with Brad's positive outlook on his racing career and his gratitude for the unwavering support he has received from his sponsors, team, and the podcast hosts. He emphasizes the importance of these relationships in his journey towards success.
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[00:59.920 -> 01:01.600] Before we get into today's episode,
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[01:25.880 -> 01:38.320] Ladies and gents, welcome back to Pit Stop.
[01:38.320 -> 01:40.520] It's 10 o'clock in the morning, haven't showered.
[01:40.520 -> 01:43.800] All right, I'm probably wearing the same clothes as I wore yesterday because we were at Silverstone.
[01:43.800 -> 01:45.000] Yeah, amazing weekend, amazing weekend.
[01:45.000 -> 01:46.000] Amazing weekend.
[01:46.000 -> 01:47.000] Amazing weekend with Heineken.
[01:47.000 -> 01:49.120] Massive shout out to them.
[01:49.120 -> 01:52.880] But we're up early today, guys, because we have another guest on the pod.
[01:52.880 -> 01:53.880] We do.
[01:53.880 -> 01:54.880] Sat right in front of us.
[01:54.880 -> 01:56.840] Can't wait to get into this episode.
[01:56.840 -> 01:59.440] Ladies and gentlemen, Brad Benavidez.
[01:59.440 -> 02:02.160] Thank you very much, my friend.
[02:02.160 -> 02:03.160] Thank you for joining us.
[02:03.160 -> 02:07.400] Yes, thank you so much for inviting me, this is honestly a pleasure.
[02:07.400 -> 02:12.720] I've been following you guys for already, almost since your inception, so like dated
[02:12.720 -> 02:15.720] let's say a year and a half ago that you guys started, right?
[02:15.720 -> 02:16.720] Yeah, about that, yeah.
[02:16.720 -> 02:18.840] About like a year that I've been following you guys.
[02:18.840 -> 02:19.840] That's really cool.
[02:19.840 -> 02:20.840] Yeah.
[02:20.840 -> 02:26.400] I love hearing it from the people we get on because, you like we were saying before we start filming for me and fabs
[02:26.400 -> 02:27.400] This is so much fun
[02:27.400 -> 02:29.000] You've just got two best mates
[02:29.000 -> 02:34.360] Filming it making a show and I know where we get all these cool people come to our flat to talk about their stories
[02:34.360 -> 02:39.820] And we can follow their journey, so we're really lucky that we get people like you on so thank you for coming
[02:39.820 -> 02:47.960] I know you were at Silverstone yesterday. You you've literally been this weekend and here we are. Yeah, it's like, literally last night when I was sleeping,
[02:47.960 -> 02:50.040] I was just reminding myself,
[02:50.040 -> 02:51.800] oh damn, this morning I was literally
[02:51.800 -> 02:54.080] in the F2 car racing.
[02:54.080 -> 02:56.920] It was definitely a fun weekend.
[02:56.920 -> 02:58.520] I enjoyed so much Silverstone.
[02:58.520 -> 03:02.400] The fan base in the UK is mega,
[03:02.400 -> 03:04.480] like in the circuit I think it was a record breaking.
[03:04.480 -> 03:05.720] Yeah, it was like over 400,000.
[03:05.720 -> 03:08.840] Oh, it was insane, 480,000 across the weekend, yeah.
[03:08.840 -> 03:14.720] Melbourne also was quite a lot as well, like around that number, but it was, yeah, so much
[03:14.720 -> 03:15.720] people so pretty excited.
[03:15.720 -> 03:16.720] Do you feel it?
[03:16.720 -> 03:20.040] Like when you're racing in the car, do you feel that there's like more going on, more
[03:20.040 -> 03:21.040] people, more hype?
[03:21.040 -> 03:26.000] Maybe, I mean not like whilst perhaps we're racing because it's
[03:26.000 -> 03:29.900] just the focus that you have to be putting into your work is beyond that
[03:29.900 -> 03:34.520] but obviously when we're done or like when we're going to the formation lap or
[03:34.520 -> 03:37.900] whatever like perhaps you can perceive it a little bit like in the
[03:37.900 -> 03:42.360] subconscious but then once you're actually focused and you know the
[03:42.360 -> 03:45.000] racing itself then not really.
[03:45.000 -> 03:52.000] But yeah, maybe when you're going to our secondary pits.
[03:52.000 -> 03:53.320] We were there this weekend as well.
[03:53.320 -> 03:54.720] We were in the F2 pit lane this weekend.
[03:54.720 -> 03:55.560] You guys did go?
[03:55.560 -> 03:56.720] Yeah, we went in for a bit.
[03:56.720 -> 03:57.480] Snuck in.
[03:57.480 -> 03:58.360] Oh, damn.
[03:58.360 -> 03:59.520] Because we talked about it.
[03:59.520 -> 04:01.840] I talked to you about inviting you over.
[04:01.840 -> 04:03.000] I'm sorry I just couldn't.
[04:03.000 -> 04:03.920] No, no, it's fine, man.
[04:03.920 -> 04:04.420] It's fine.
[04:04.420 -> 04:05.200] We managed to sneak in. Because with my. I'm sorry, I just couldn't. No, no, it's fine, man. It's fine, we managed to sneak in.
[04:05.200 -> 04:07.240] Yeah, because with my team, at least,
[04:07.240 -> 04:11.720] I always have to ask them prior to the race week
[04:11.720 -> 04:13.800] and how many guests I'm going to have
[04:13.800 -> 04:15.640] and how many passes they're going to give me.
[04:15.640 -> 04:18.120] And maximum always is three.
[04:18.120 -> 04:21.760] But we always get extra because my son, my teammate,
[04:21.760 -> 04:30.800] usually doesn't maximize the passes that he needs. So I always have around five or six, but most of them are go to my spot to my sponsors,
[04:30.800 -> 04:32.800] basically, which is the AIX investment group.
[04:33.200 -> 04:34.840] So it's a shirt today.
[04:34.840 -> 04:35.320] I like that.
[04:35.320 -> 04:35.640] Yeah.
[04:36.680 -> 04:36.960] Yeah.
[04:36.960 -> 04:37.760] Hold them dearly.
[04:37.760 -> 04:38.200] Always.
[04:38.200 -> 04:38.720] Yeah.
[04:38.720 -> 04:41.080] I can imagine a lot of people want them Silverstone tickets.
[04:41.080 -> 04:42.840] So yeah, I completely understand.
[04:42.840 -> 04:44.280] But no, thank you very much for trying.
[04:44.440 -> 04:48.840] Um, get them with Clem. Clem. Yeah, Yeah we've tried and I don't know if we should have
[04:48.840 -> 04:54.280] name-dropped him there. Maybe we'll bleep that. I think we're gonna bleep that. No it's alright.
[04:54.280 -> 05:02.520] I mean my reaction I mean I've always had an okay regard for him I'm just this
[05:02.520 -> 05:06.360] weekend you maybe messed my my races a bit.
[05:06.360 -> 05:09.040] Oh was it Clem that you had a bit of a run in with?
[05:09.040 -> 05:13.800] Saturday in the sprint race, I don't know what happened, he basically took me out.
[05:13.800 -> 05:14.800] Oh no, Clem!
[05:14.800 -> 05:15.800] Bro!
[05:15.800 -> 05:16.800] Bro, what are you doing?
[05:16.800 -> 05:26.880] Yeah, nah man, I mean it's a circumstance where you get a weekend almost semi-ruined, you know, because it's
[05:26.880 -> 05:28.200] there's three days.
[05:28.200 -> 05:30.200] It's Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
[05:30.200 -> 05:31.480] Saturday is ruined.
[05:31.480 -> 05:38.360] So it's 30%, 33% of the weekend that I wasn't able to drive because of basically one guy.
[05:38.360 -> 05:52.000] And then the last day, Sunday, part of it was also, you know, a bit affected by somebody that was, I don't know, doing some inconsistent stuff that he himself has shown.
[05:52.000 -> 06:02.000] And to me, you know, this year is like, I feel like my whole life has brought me to this moment in the grand scheme of racing.
[06:02.000 -> 06:06.880] That's my background, you know what I mean? Like there's no other meaning to my life. Basically, it's an existential
[06:07.560 -> 06:10.120] topic for me, the racing.
[06:11.720 -> 06:14.900] And it's a blessing that I'm in Formula 2 because
[06:15.960 -> 06:17.600] basically my
[06:17.600 -> 06:19.600] where I stand at the moment is
[06:20.520 -> 06:22.520] my family
[06:23.520 -> 06:35.720] always, let's say, brought up cash, capital, as my racing basically was
[06:35.720 -> 06:39.240] continued.
[06:39.240 -> 06:47.600] It's not like we had the cash since day one. There was first the dream of doing karting,
[06:47.600 -> 06:51.760] then we had my family went alongside me
[06:51.760 -> 06:56.160] and supported the idea, and they raised cash for that.
[06:56.160 -> 06:58.740] And then it was, okay, let's try to get into
[06:58.740 -> 07:00.480] any single-seater championship,
[07:00.480 -> 07:02.600] and then somehow he was able,
[07:02.600 -> 07:09.040] well, my dad basically, was able to make a business opportunity work
[07:11.920 -> 07:14.440] and he was able to raise the cash basically.
[07:14.440 -> 07:17.320] And that's literally, it's been step by step
[07:17.320 -> 07:21.040] and it's not like it's been there, the financial support,
[07:21.040 -> 07:25.000] it's been brought up
[07:25.160 -> 07:27.160] as the dream is continuing.
[07:27.160 -> 07:28.000] As it's progressed.
[07:28.000 -> 07:29.640] That's what we really want to touch on today
[07:29.640 -> 07:34.000] because we saw the TikTok video that you put out,
[07:34.000 -> 07:36.760] which was like, it's quite emotional.
[07:36.760 -> 07:38.200] And I know that you want to ask a lot of questions
[07:38.200 -> 07:39.040] about that side of it.
[07:39.040 -> 07:41.280] I saw that TikTok video and I thought it was incredible
[07:41.280 -> 07:43.640] because from a viewer's point of view,
[07:43.640 -> 07:46.640] a lot of the time you'd have no idea what's going on in the head of a driver
[07:46.720 -> 07:49.400] or like what's going on in their life off track, you know,
[07:49.520 -> 07:53.040] from a lot of fans that watch it, we'll just see a table of points,
[07:53.040 -> 07:55.600] follow the people at the top and that's who they talk about.
[07:56.000 -> 07:59.360] But when, you know, it seems like a high life, you know, being a racing driver,
[07:59.360 -> 08:02.320] you don't see the struggles that you guys have, you know, technically it is.
[08:02.360 -> 08:03.080] But yeah.
[08:03.080 -> 08:05.520] And then when I saw the TikTok, like it's emotional.
[08:05.520 -> 08:08.460] Like hearing you write about it and you say,
[08:09.320 -> 08:12.240] you know, the pressures that are currently on you
[08:12.240 -> 08:13.520] and how you feel.
[08:13.520 -> 08:15.160] And I wanted to just talk to you about it today
[08:15.160 -> 08:17.520] and firsthand, like just understand
[08:17.520 -> 08:19.120] what's currently going on in your world
[08:19.120 -> 08:20.080] and where you're at.
[08:20.080 -> 08:24.800] The general approach of a racing driver and what they do,
[08:24.800 -> 08:25.000] it does, it may seem as if it's the high life for sure. The general approach of a racing driver and what they do,
[08:26.040 -> 08:29.680] it may seem as if it's the high life for sure.
[08:29.680 -> 08:33.640] And that's the status quo.
[08:33.640 -> 08:35.160] That's the average racing driver.
[08:35.160 -> 08:36.000] That's their background.
[08:36.000 -> 08:40.320] They're coming from high society, basically.
[08:40.320 -> 08:43.200] Because of how expensive the sport is, right?
[08:43.200 -> 08:45.160] But I never really saw it like that.
[08:45.160 -> 08:46.920] I was first a swimmer.
[08:46.920 -> 08:48.760] I was living in Guatemala.
[08:48.760 -> 08:49.580] Well-
[08:49.580 -> 08:50.460] Because your dad is an Olympic swimmer, right?
[08:50.460 -> 08:51.300] Yeah, exactly.
[08:51.300 -> 08:54.160] So I'll just briefly say my story then.
[08:54.160 -> 08:56.680] I was born in the US, but my dad is from Guatemala
[08:56.680 -> 08:58.180] and my mom is from Colombia.
[08:58.180 -> 08:59.020] Cool.
[08:59.020 -> 09:01.480] And I moved to Guatemala when I was 10.
[09:01.480 -> 09:04.360] Basically, my family had a situation
[09:04.360 -> 09:05.560] where my dad was,
[09:05.560 -> 09:08.580] he basically went bankrupt and he had moved to Guatemala.
[09:08.580 -> 09:11.360] So I was living there the first like two years
[09:11.360 -> 09:15.960] and yeah, in not the greatest of financial states,
[09:15.960 -> 09:18.780] but where I actually moved to Guatemala,
[09:18.780 -> 09:21.640] I was actually never into racing before.
[09:21.640 -> 09:25.880] So like, I only got into racing once I was in Guatemala and after
[09:25.880 -> 09:31.720] like a year and a half and the place the house that we moved into actually neck
[09:31.720 -> 09:37.800] we were neighbors to a basically a race circuit it was a track yeah but it
[09:37.800 -> 09:50.840] wasn't an actual track it was just a quarter of a mile you know the quarter of a mile racing so like it's just a quarter of a
[09:50.840 -> 09:57.000] mile is drag racing you know this is straight but there was sometimes people
[09:57.000 -> 10:02.880] doing carting there because so it's a straight but then once the cars does the
[10:02.880 -> 10:09.280] drag racing they go down the straight yeah yeah they have to have like the the road to come back to the start of it so
[10:09.280 -> 10:12.960] basically the paved road to go to go to the back was like let's say the
[10:12.960 -> 10:15.640] circuit it was like three corners in it and then in the straight they would put
[10:15.640 -> 10:19.800] like cones so like to make an S and that was your track you know it was like
[10:19.800 -> 10:25.520] freaking 30-second track. I read that you got into karting through YouTube. Is that right?
[10:25.520 -> 10:27.360] Well, more professionally.
[10:27.360 -> 10:29.400] Initially, like the real inception
[10:29.400 -> 10:32.200] of how I literally got into motorsport was that.
[10:32.200 -> 10:35.840] When I moved to Guatemala, next door to where I was living,
[10:35.840 -> 10:39.840] like we were neighboring that track basically.
[10:39.840 -> 10:41.560] And that's how I would go.
[10:41.560 -> 10:43.360] I remember I would like play with a friend
[10:43.360 -> 10:44.760] that I had there and my neighbor,
[10:44.760 -> 10:49.120] and I'd be on the roof of that house, and I would literally see the carts
[10:49.120 -> 10:52.520] driving, and I would be like, whoa, that's crazy.
[10:52.520 -> 10:56.160] I'd see it like an absolute dream to even try one out.
[10:56.160 -> 11:03.240] Because in that moment, literally, we couldn't afford, basically, even school in Guatemala
[11:03.240 -> 11:04.240] was being something tough in that moment.
[11:04.240 -> 11:05.000] And how old were you here? I was about 10 here. Yeah, I was about 11. even school in Guatemala was being a tough moment.
[11:05.160 -> 11:06.280] It was about 10?
[11:06.280 -> 11:07.480] Yeah, I was about 11.
[11:07.480 -> 11:09.680] See, that's crazy because a lot of the people
[11:09.680 -> 11:11.040] that are currently in your grid,
[11:11.040 -> 11:12.000] that you're competing with,
[11:12.000 -> 11:13.960] probably would have won world championships
[11:13.960 -> 11:14.800] in kiting by the age of 11.
[11:14.800 -> 11:16.600] Or started kiting when they were like five or six,
[11:16.600 -> 11:17.440] which I think is nuts, by the way.
[11:17.440 -> 11:18.260] And you hadn't even got in one.
[11:18.260 -> 11:19.100] I think that's crazy.
[11:19.100 -> 11:21.460] Not necessarily, I mean, every story is different.
[11:21.460 -> 11:23.720] For example, Victor Martins, he started quite late as well.
[11:23.720 -> 11:26.000] He was a gymnastic, I don't know how you call it. He was a gymnast? A gymnast, Victor Martins, he started quite late as well. He was a gym, a gymnastic.
[11:26.200 -> 11:28.080] I don't know. He was a gymnast.
[11:28.280 -> 11:29.280] Yeah. What did he do?
[11:29.480 -> 11:30.480] What gymnastics?
[11:30.680 -> 11:34.400] Yeah, no, I think he was like a champion in gymnastics as well.
[11:34.600 -> 11:37.080] And and there's everybody has a different story.
[11:37.280 -> 11:39.160] Some people start earlier than others.
[11:39.360 -> 11:43.680] But that's what that's when I initially like, wow, I want to get into karting.
[11:43.880 -> 11:44.600] Yeah.
[11:44.800 -> 11:48.640] But obviously in that moment, though, we're not even close to financially being able to
[11:48.640 -> 11:49.640] support it.
[11:49.640 -> 11:54.560] Imagine like, from where I started and the financial backing that we could have had where
[11:54.560 -> 12:01.160] I started to now, and the levels that I've gone through, it's like, it's insane to believe
[12:01.160 -> 12:06.720] that that was where the inception was, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. But yeah, that's how it started.
[12:06.720 -> 12:12.560] And I tell my dad every single time that I'd see like Stewie, I call him Stewie, my dad.
[12:12.560 -> 12:14.880] Yeah, you see the carts over there and whatnot.
[12:14.880 -> 12:20.400] And he was like, he was catching on to my, to this, to this passion that I was starting
[12:20.400 -> 12:24.800] to, you know, to get over this carts and looking at them in this track.
[12:24.800 -> 12:25.480] And, and then eventually, like a year after for Christmas, he, I literally just woke up was starting to get over these carts and looking at them in this track.
[12:25.480 -> 12:29.880] And then eventually, like a year after for Christmas, I literally just woke up and went
[12:29.880 -> 12:35.880] downstairs and there was a small 60 cart, like the mini cart that he literally bought
[12:35.880 -> 12:36.880] for Christmas.
[12:36.880 -> 12:39.720] But it was like a really, really old dated go-kart.
[12:39.720 -> 12:41.200] It was like from the 90s.
[12:41.200 -> 12:42.200] That's sick.
[12:42.200 -> 12:46.000] I bet that still meant so much to you. Yeah,
[12:46.000 -> 12:50.320] in Guatemala, those were the karts that were around anyways. It's not like you could, they
[12:50.320 -> 12:56.000] weren't for sale modern karts. In Guatemala, the level of karting and the level of- I rate
[12:56.000 -> 12:59.200] that though. I rate that you didn't start with the best gear or anything like that.
[12:59.200 -> 13:04.440] You really had to work your way up. I'm pretty sure I have a photo. Yeah. I have photos of
[13:04.440 -> 13:11.880] it. I can show you guys. Show us after, then we can drop sure I have a photo. Yeah, I have photos of it. Show us after and we can drop it in. Yeah, that'd be cool. Yeah, so that's how initially I
[13:11.880 -> 13:19.960] started and then, but I was mainly a swimmer as well. So when I
[13:19.960 -> 13:24.160] was living in the US, ever since I can remember, ever since I have memory
[13:24.160 -> 13:26.760] or before I have memory,
[13:26.760 -> 13:29.040] I was a swimmer, because my dad was an Olympic swimmer.
[13:29.040 -> 13:32.360] Right, so did he want you to go in that direction
[13:32.360 -> 13:33.200] in the beginning?
[13:33.200 -> 13:34.020] Yeah, initially.
[13:34.020 -> 13:34.860] A lot cheaper than racing?
[13:34.860 -> 13:36.440] A lot cheaper, of course, yeah.
[13:36.440 -> 13:39.000] Swimming trunks don't cost quite as much as a go-kart.
[13:39.000 -> 13:42.880] Yeah, not even, yeah, oh my God.
[13:42.880 -> 13:45.160] Let alone just like the tires, imagine,
[13:45.160 -> 13:47.080] like you have to get into a race here in Europe
[13:47.080 -> 13:50.020] and just the tires cost like the whole setup
[13:50.020 -> 13:51.100] of a swimmer, right?
[13:51.100 -> 13:51.940] It's crazy.
[13:51.940 -> 13:54.100] I mean, how much do tires cost at that level?
[13:54.100 -> 13:57.200] Like 200 quid for like a set of tires, yeah.
[13:57.200 -> 13:58.360] Yeah, wow.
[13:58.360 -> 14:00.720] And it's all for nothing because you crash in T1
[14:00.720 -> 14:02.680] and then you get a hole in them and that's it.
[14:02.680 -> 14:03.640] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[14:03.640 -> 14:05.560] So imagine, just the levels. So yeah, I was initially a swimmer, and T1 and then you get a hole in them and that's it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[14:05.560 -> 14:06.560] Yeah.
[14:06.560 -> 14:07.560] So imagine the levels.
[14:07.560 -> 14:12.160] So yeah, I was initially a swimmer because also my older brother, he went, my dad, he
[14:12.160 -> 14:14.680] brought him up through that path as well.
[14:14.680 -> 14:16.360] And he would have wanted me to do that as well.
[14:16.360 -> 14:19.800] And like I said, ever since I can remember, I was doing that.
[14:19.800 -> 14:21.040] So your brother's a swimmer, you say?
[14:21.040 -> 14:22.040] As well.
[14:22.040 -> 14:23.040] Yeah.
[14:23.040 -> 14:24.040] Cool.
[14:24.040 -> 14:25.640] Cool. Both my dad and brother, Olympic swimmers.
[14:25.640 -> 14:26.480] Oh, man.
[14:26.480 -> 14:30.440] So I was brought up like mega disciplined swimming
[14:30.440 -> 14:32.600] in my household, you know?
[14:32.600 -> 14:37.240] So the discipline in terms of sporting background
[14:37.240 -> 14:41.920] that I was brought up into was there, was really there.
[14:41.920 -> 14:46.920] It's a athlete type of childhood in terms of swimming.
[14:49.160 -> 14:53.080] So, it was, karting was more just like a hobby.
[14:53.080 -> 14:56.160] Like, I would do it every once in a while
[14:56.160 -> 14:58.160] when we could, basically.
[14:58.160 -> 14:59.560] But mainly it was just swimming.
[14:59.560 -> 15:01.160] And it was literally like that,
[15:02.200 -> 15:06.600] but it was a slow process until like when I was 15 so imagine we
[15:06.600 -> 15:10.200] were talking about four years that of a slow process of me getting even more and
[15:10.200 -> 15:15.640] more and more into this side hobby that I loved anyways like I was and that's
[15:15.640 -> 15:20.840] that's the time where I was like becoming into YouTube like becoming a
[15:20.840 -> 15:25.060] total fan of karting and Formula One and just getting into the sport
[15:25.140 -> 15:30.180] But on from the sidelines because anyways, it was unimaginable to ever, you know
[15:30.180 -> 15:34.080] Become a Formula 2 driver become a Formula 1 driver not even karting in Europe
[15:34.080 -> 15:39.160] Like that was the level of my of my of my I gotta say you give me goosebumps
[15:43.840 -> 15:46.160] It's cool because like, you know, people,
[15:46.160 -> 15:49.140] I know people in Europe that let's say
[15:49.140 -> 15:51.520] they don't have the budget to start,
[15:51.520 -> 15:54.720] but it's just through, it's my story can, you know,
[15:54.720 -> 15:57.420] represent that if there is a will
[15:57.420 -> 16:00.560] and it's joined with love, with your family,
[16:00.560 -> 16:08.440] and there's that joint sacrifice and joint dream and faith, it could happen, you
[16:08.440 -> 16:09.440] know?
[16:09.440 -> 16:11.840] Not necessarily, it's impossible.
[16:11.840 -> 16:12.840] So yeah.
[16:12.840 -> 16:13.840] Yeah, yeah.
[16:13.840 -> 16:14.840] No, that's great.
[16:14.840 -> 16:15.840] Yeah.
[16:15.840 -> 16:20.000] So yeah, and then there was five years of this slow transition into wanting to actually
[16:20.000 -> 16:21.480] dedicate myself into it.
[16:21.480 -> 16:26.000] And once my dad was was actually you know being more
[16:26.000 -> 16:34.120] successful in his in his business operations I say we we then started to
[16:34.120 -> 16:39.640] get the opportunity of the idea of moving to Europe and doing carting and
[16:39.640 -> 16:46.640] as soon as that you know was was I was like, OK, maybe swimming can go fuck themselves.
[16:49.320 -> 16:52.160] Because it's not what I naturally aspire to do.
[16:52.160 -> 16:54.120] Because it was suffering.
[16:54.120 -> 17:07.520] Swimming is something that the only nice thing about swimming is when you're in the competition, you're preparing the nerves of going and doing your 100 meters freestyle or butterfly.
[17:07.520 -> 17:09.880] And that's the only nice part, the nerves,
[17:09.880 -> 17:12.760] the competing edge that you then have to have
[17:12.760 -> 17:16.960] when you're, you know, the last bit of the event
[17:16.960 -> 17:19.760] and you can't feel your legs and all that acid.
[17:19.760 -> 17:20.600] What is it called?
[17:20.600 -> 17:23.680] The acid, lactic acid is in your muscle.
[17:23.680 -> 17:24.520] You can't feel shit.
[17:24.520 -> 17:26.120] You're about to fucking, you know, pass out acid is in your muscle. You can't feel shit. You're about to fucking pass out.
[17:26.120 -> 17:26.960] Sorry for the language.
[17:26.960 -> 17:28.040] Yeah, no, no, fuck it, go for it.
[17:28.040 -> 17:29.640] We don't give a shit.
[17:29.640 -> 17:31.480] We don't give a shit.
[17:31.480 -> 17:36.480] Yeah, and that's the nice bit about swimming,
[17:36.640 -> 17:39.040] which is the competing part, but that's what I only liked.
[17:39.040 -> 17:42.560] I didn't really enjoy, which in let's say,
[17:42.560 -> 17:47.200] for us, the philosophical terms, now that I've grown, perhaps isn't the best way,
[17:47.200 -> 17:49.060] but because I was a kid, naturally when you're a kid,
[17:49.060 -> 17:51.120] you don't want to do things that you don't enjoy,
[17:51.120 -> 17:54.140] which is the practice part, which is the suffering part.
[17:54.140 -> 17:56.600] That's the bit that I didn't really enjoy from swimming,
[17:56.600 -> 17:59.040] but what I did enjoy, obviously, was the competing edge.
[17:59.040 -> 18:02.520] I'm a natural competitor, probably because I was brought up
[18:02.520 -> 18:04.280] since I was so young as a swimmer,
[18:04.280 -> 18:06.600] and I only wanted to win,
[18:06.600 -> 18:08.120] only wanted to win because I was,
[18:08.120 -> 18:11.480] that's what was being transferred to me by my dad.
[18:11.480 -> 18:13.880] Because he was the winner, he was Olympic swimmer.
[18:13.880 -> 18:15.800] So I had to then, you know, live up to that.
[18:15.800 -> 18:17.040] So you know what I mean?
[18:17.040 -> 18:18.440] But isn't it the same in Formula Two,
[18:18.440 -> 18:20.240] like the kind of the training that you have to do?
[18:20.240 -> 18:24.000] Is that, do you liken that to what it was like with swimming?
[18:24.000 -> 18:25.180] I think I'm even doing it more
[18:25.180 -> 18:28.380] So before I was doing it swimming I was sacrificing myself
[18:29.520 -> 18:31.420] Unwillingly, let's say
[18:31.420 -> 18:34.300] but I was doing it regardless and when I was younger and
[18:34.820 -> 18:36.640] And yeah, I wasn't enjoying it
[18:36.640 -> 18:43.240] But now on the other hand that I'm older and and I'm I just I just have to prepare for formula for to racing
[18:43.240 -> 18:46.600] I'm sacrificing myself even more than I was doing back then
[18:46.600 -> 18:49.160] when I was doing like four hours a day,
[18:49.160 -> 18:51.800] almost like six to 8K, eight kilometers,
[18:51.800 -> 18:55.360] which I don't know is a day in the swimming practice.
[18:55.360 -> 18:57.480] So yeah, I'm like now I'm literally,
[18:57.480 -> 18:59.980] because I'm free most of the time,
[18:59.980 -> 19:02.640] unless I'm preparing in the simulator doing iRacing,
[19:02.640 -> 19:04.920] I'm then in the gym or swimming as well,
[19:04.920 -> 19:06.780] like again, four hours a day.
[19:06.780 -> 19:09.640] Like even before, let's say I was putting four hours a day
[19:09.640 -> 19:10.840] or three hours a day on willingly,
[19:10.840 -> 19:14.520] now I'm putting maybe perhaps more hours and willingly.
[19:14.520 -> 19:15.360] You know?
[19:15.360 -> 19:16.180] But you wanna be there.
[19:16.180 -> 19:17.020] Like you wanna be doing that shit.
[19:17.020 -> 19:19.660] And swimming is part of your workout for driving?
[19:21.520 -> 19:23.000] I have to be honest with you guys.
[19:23.000 -> 19:24.960] Maybe swimming not so much.
[19:24.960 -> 19:25.000] Maybe I have maybe a honest with you guys, maybe swimming not so much.
[19:25.000 -> 19:29.000] Maybe I have a fucking backbone with that.
[19:29.000 -> 19:31.000] That's fair enough.
[19:31.000 -> 19:36.000] Yeah, it's mainly running and perhaps I do cycling sometimes.
[19:36.000 -> 19:44.000] Sometimes I do swimming, but I still have that fucking tick of not wanting to get inside the cold water.
[19:44.000 -> 19:46.000] That I have to go through every day.
[19:46.000 -> 19:49.000] So you're not into your ice bath before a race or anything like that?
[19:49.000 -> 19:50.000] I actually do do that.
[19:50.000 -> 19:51.000] You do?
[19:51.000 -> 19:52.000] In the morning, in the showers.
[19:52.000 -> 19:53.000] That sounds like torture to me, man.
[19:53.000 -> 19:54.000] How long have you done that?
[19:54.000 -> 19:56.000] Is it like a thing you've done for a while?
[19:56.000 -> 19:57.000] I actually started just this year.
[19:57.000 -> 19:58.000] Okay.
[19:58.000 -> 19:59.000] Yeah.
[19:59.000 -> 20:00.000] Because you did it for a while, didn't you?
[20:00.000 -> 20:02.000] I took a cold shower yesterday because there was no hot water.
[20:02.000 -> 20:03.000] Oh, what was that?
[20:03.000 -> 20:07.000] In the place where we were staying, bro, and I was like shivering like a dog.
[20:07.000 -> 20:12.240] The worst thing that I do is well I can't just like jump in and it's cold
[20:12.240 -> 20:15.240] water and then I'm there like two minutes cleaning everything that's it no
[20:15.240 -> 20:19.040] I have to first you know go with the hot water okay I'm cleaning everything and
[20:19.040 -> 20:23.080] then the last minute I do cold water yeah which I don't know if it's worse
[20:23.080 -> 20:25.960] because if you initially start with the cold water
[20:25.960 -> 20:29.980] Then you're getting used to it at the beginning and then like you're fine. And then you just finish off like that
[20:29.980 -> 20:32.740] I think what you do is better. I think what you do is better
[20:32.740 -> 20:37.440] I mean better in the sense that it's more comforting or better in the sense that when you get in the shower
[20:37.440 -> 20:39.920] You can like chill and be a bit relaxed in hot water
[20:40.000 -> 20:42.760] But then once you get in there, you have to pay the price even harder
[20:42.760 -> 20:48.000] Yeah, well, I think anyone anyone who takes a cold shower willingly is a psychopath.
[20:48.000 -> 20:51.600] Like a shower for me is I go in and I'm just I'm zenning out.
[20:51.600 -> 20:52.400] My music's on.
[20:52.400 -> 20:53.600] I'm blissed. Yeah.
[20:53.600 -> 20:55.500] I'm not gonna show this podcast then to my mom.
[20:55.500 -> 20:57.200] She's a psycho then.
[20:57.200 -> 20:58.800] Oh, she loves a cold shower?
[20:58.800 -> 21:00.600] She only does cold shower even in winter.
[21:00.600 -> 21:01.400] I'm so sorry mom.
[21:01.400 -> 21:02.600] I didn't mean it.
[21:02.600 -> 21:07.500] So then I moved to Spain and I started racing in,
[21:09.480 -> 21:11.800] like I told you before the podcast,
[21:11.800 -> 21:14.000] there was a coach that was like,
[21:14.000 -> 21:18.000] he came up to us and he was basically selling his services.
[21:18.000 -> 21:20.520] And his name is Felix Portero.
[21:20.520 -> 21:23.640] And I started with him basically in karting the first year,
[21:23.640 -> 21:25.000] which was 2017.
[21:25.000 -> 21:29.000] So I was around 16, basically.
[21:29.000 -> 21:32.000] 15 turning to 16, because I'm born in...
[21:32.000 -> 21:34.000] Oh no, yeah, 15 turning to 16.
[21:34.000 -> 21:40.000] And I did one year of racing in Spain, so Spanish level races.
[21:40.000 -> 21:44.000] But at the end of that year, I already moved...
[21:44.000 -> 21:48.200] Because I parted ways with him,
[21:48.200 -> 21:52.960] and I moved into not only racing in Spain,
[21:52.960 -> 21:56.120] but I moved into a couple races in Europe,
[21:56.120 -> 21:59.000] and the WSK, it's called WSK,
[21:59.000 -> 22:00.400] I don't know if you guys have seen those races.
[22:00.400 -> 22:01.400] Is that World Series Karting?
[22:01.400 -> 22:02.720] World Series Karting, exactly.
[22:02.720 -> 22:19.320] Oh my God, that was unbelievable. I had no idea I just guessed WSK. There's no way you guessed that. He was googling last night.
[22:19.320 -> 22:26.120] At the end of 2017 I did some WSK races. It went well for me. I had a podium
[22:26.120 -> 22:29.240] and it was like it was crazy for me to have a podium because like
[22:30.360 -> 22:34.400] Five years before that is when I started my complete
[22:35.220 -> 22:37.220] fanatic
[22:38.140 -> 22:42.960] What did you call it fanatic stage of my life of watching these WSK races
[22:42.960 -> 22:50.400] Yeah commentator Ian Silvestrin, which I don't know if you guys know him, but he's basically a commentator of all these WSK. He's commented
[22:51.560 -> 22:57.280] You know everybody that's in Formula 2 and even Formula 1 now, he was commenting Oscar Piastri, Logan
[22:58.120 -> 23:00.120] Filipe Drogobic
[23:01.880 -> 23:05.120] Like for example, it was a cool insight in my story.
[23:05.120 -> 23:07.440] For example, I was literally a fan first,
[23:07.440 -> 23:09.920] probably of people like Logan Sargent,
[23:09.920 -> 23:12.400] Felipe Drogovic, Oscar Piastri.
[23:12.400 -> 23:15.680] When I was in Guatemala, watching the karting races.
[23:15.680 -> 23:16.800] Wait, so how old are you?
[23:16.800 -> 23:18.120] I'm 20, 21, sorry.
[23:18.120 -> 23:19.840] 21, so how old's Felipe?
[23:19.840 -> 23:21.000] He must be like 24, 25.
[23:21.000 -> 23:22.760] Like my age, no, he's like 22.
[23:22.760 -> 23:23.600] Oh, really?
[23:23.600 -> 23:24.440] Yeah.
[23:24.440 -> 23:25.260] So you were like a fan of these guys back then? I was a fan of them because I was in Guatemala, so before I moved to Europe, I'm sure he's like 24. He's like my age. No, he's like 22. Oh really? Yeah. Damn.
[23:25.260 -> 23:26.100] So you're a fan of these guys.
[23:26.100 -> 23:28.520] I was a fan of them because I was in Guatemala.
[23:28.520 -> 23:29.600] So before I moved to Europe,
[23:29.600 -> 23:30.960] obviously when I was in Guatemala,
[23:30.960 -> 23:32.680] like when I was 12,
[23:32.680 -> 23:34.800] I was watching the karting races.
[23:34.800 -> 23:37.360] And for me, that was like fricking top notch level, right?
[23:37.360 -> 23:39.240] That was like the pinnacle of karting.
[23:39.240 -> 23:41.160] And I was a fan of karting in that moment.
[23:41.160 -> 23:44.920] I was like, even though it was newbie rookie level,
[23:44.920 -> 23:45.160] but I was still like a complete fan of it was newbie, rookie level, but I
[23:45.160 -> 23:49.280] was still like a complete fan of it. And when I would really like look up to the, to higher
[23:49.280 -> 23:54.480] level of, of, of karting races that was obviously in here in Europe. And the protagonists were,
[23:54.480 -> 23:59.800] you know, people like Sargent, that he was world champion in 2016, 2015. Drogovic, that
[23:59.800 -> 24:06.880] he was also racing alongside him. All these, all these drivers, even the ones that I'm in Formula 2 now.
[24:06.880 -> 24:08.680] I was literally a fan first of them.
[24:09.740 -> 24:13.600] I told this story to Logan when I did a F3 test with him
[24:13.600 -> 24:17.200] in Valencia in 2021, that was the first time I met him.
[24:17.200 -> 24:18.640] I told him, you know what, bro,
[24:18.640 -> 24:21.040] actually, because we were in the debrief for the team,
[24:21.040 -> 24:23.200] I'll tell you a quick story, funny story.
[24:24.120 -> 24:28.600] You were, let's say, first my idol
[24:28.600 -> 24:32.020] rather than like a Formula One driver in my racing career.
[24:32.020 -> 24:35.160] Like I literally had him in my wallpaper of my phone
[24:35.160 -> 24:37.960] and I was even thinking of doing like a poster
[24:37.960 -> 24:39.400] and putting him in my room.
[24:39.400 -> 24:40.880] And to that extent, I was a fan of him.
[24:40.880 -> 24:43.280] I never really did it when I was younger because I,
[24:43.280 -> 24:47.340] but I actually wanted, I would have wanted to do it. That's how like that's the level of
[24:48.700 -> 24:50.980] Admiration that I had towards him because he was American
[24:51.100 -> 24:57.580] He had just won the world championship and and I was like, you know, no nobody back then. Yeah, and we're quite in Guatemala
[24:57.580 -> 24:59.140] Yeah, but yeah
[24:59.140 -> 25:05.780] and so and then when I moved like I said when I was then finally there and I was in racing
[25:05.780 -> 25:08.520] and in these WSK races and I had my first podium
[25:08.520 -> 25:11.200] and the commentator, that was like for me,
[25:11.200 -> 25:15.580] my total like, yeah, inspiration
[25:15.580 -> 25:17.120] because also the commentator, right?
[25:17.120 -> 25:20.680] Like I just loved his entertaining skills
[25:20.680 -> 25:21.960] and his commentating skills.
[25:21.960 -> 25:22.800] Yeah, the energy.
[25:22.800 -> 25:23.880] Gave me goosebumps, yeah.
[25:23.880 -> 25:28.120] It's like when kids are watching Formula One races and the commentator give them goosebumps
[25:28.120 -> 25:31.960] So for me as well karting commentator was giving me these bumps and imagine out of nowhere
[25:31.960 -> 25:35.140] Boom, you get you get him commentating your first podium. Yeah
[25:36.120 -> 25:41.400] We have crofty doing it for sky David Croft and he I don't know if you've heard his commentary, but he's amazing
[25:43.040 -> 25:45.800] Great guy. Yeah. Yeah, of course. amazing. He's amazing. And we had him on the show, great guy. Yeah, yeah. Of course I saw it.
[25:45.800 -> 25:47.560] It was lights out and away we go.
[25:47.560 -> 25:48.800] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[25:48.800 -> 25:50.400] That was like really viral on TikTok.
[25:50.400 -> 25:51.800] Oh, on our pod?
[25:51.800 -> 25:52.640] Yeah.
[25:52.640 -> 25:53.460] Yeah.
[25:53.460 -> 25:54.520] It was like the most viral one, I think.
[25:54.520 -> 25:56.360] Yeah, I think it did go really big.
[25:56.360 -> 25:57.200] Yeah, we kind of fished for it.
[25:57.200 -> 25:59.080] We were like, we really would love you to say it.
[25:59.080 -> 26:01.520] Yeah, he was really kind to do that as well.
[26:01.520 -> 26:02.800] Good sport, man, yeah.
[26:02.800 -> 26:04.480] That was a good clout management.
[26:04.480 -> 26:05.000] We tried. It was Fab's idea, Fab. Yeah. That was good clout management. We tried.
[26:05.000 -> 26:06.000] It was Fab's idea.
[26:06.000 -> 26:07.000] Fab said it's incredible.
[26:07.000 -> 26:08.000] We tried.
[26:08.000 -> 26:09.000] We tried.
[26:09.000 -> 26:11.000] And I got the podium and that was awesome.
[26:11.000 -> 26:12.000] That was legit.
[26:12.000 -> 26:14.760] And my dream was already coming true.
[26:14.760 -> 26:19.160] And then from then on, it's just been moving up the ladder in the ranks.
[26:19.160 -> 26:27.340] Like I said, obviously for every single season, at the start of it, my family, we never had the money.
[26:27.340 -> 26:31.340] It was, like I said, it's been hand on hand,
[26:31.340 -> 26:34.420] like hand with hand, bringing up the cash
[26:34.420 -> 26:37.260] as the necessity arose, basically.
[26:40.120 -> 26:44.220] So, yeah, so 2018, again, did more cartoon races.
[26:44.220 -> 26:47.280] Obviously, it was, that year also was a financial struggle.
[26:47.280 -> 26:50.080] Like I said, it was, oh, this year, this next race,
[26:50.080 -> 26:51.480] we don't have the cash for it.
[26:51.480 -> 26:52.660] Perhaps we're not gonna do this race,
[26:52.660 -> 26:53.680] but then the next race we can.
[26:53.680 -> 26:55.280] So also, I'd say my,
[26:57.640 -> 27:00.740] the amount of races that I could also get into these years
[27:00.740 -> 27:03.520] when I was doing karting was also limited.
[27:03.520 -> 27:06.760] But still, I was doing them and it went well.
[27:06.760 -> 27:10.160] I was already in the European championship level,
[27:10.160 -> 27:11.600] like properly within the top 10.
[27:11.600 -> 27:13.160] Was it limited how many races you did
[27:13.160 -> 27:14.960] because doesn't it cost so much money
[27:14.960 -> 27:16.200] to go to a certain race?
[27:16.200 -> 27:17.560] Don't you have, it's expensive.
[27:17.560 -> 27:19.040] You don't like pay a ticket, do you?
[27:19.040 -> 27:20.840] Don't you pay per race or something?
[27:20.840 -> 27:22.080] So you pay to the team.
[27:22.080 -> 27:24.560] Usually you can have like a contract and you'd be like,
[27:24.560 -> 27:30.080] okay, I'm a B-roll art or Tony car driver for for this season and
[27:30.080 -> 27:34.200] then you have like you know on the calendar what are the races that you're
[27:34.200 -> 27:38.680] gonna be going into and this is like the best way to do it this is the way that
[27:38.680 -> 27:42.480] this is the proper way because then you're actually with a team and then the
[27:42.480 -> 27:45.200] they know that you're gonna be with them the whole year and
[27:45.760 -> 27:48.180] politically speaking as well you can have
[27:49.320 -> 27:55.160] Better material basically, you know with the the relationship then you have with the with also with the motorist
[27:55.360 -> 27:59.220] They know you they know you're gonna be there the whole year. They know that you have the budget
[27:59.220 -> 28:01.980] You already paid up front, you know the proper
[28:03.020 -> 28:05.000] the proper amount that they wanted,
[28:05.000 -> 28:05.800] that they asked for.
[28:05.800 -> 28:08.840] So it's, and yeah, that's like the proper way
[28:08.840 -> 28:13.080] to get into a year of karting, a season of karting.
[28:13.080 -> 28:15.280] Otherwise it's like you pay per race,
[28:15.280 -> 28:17.120] which is what we were doing.
[28:17.120 -> 28:18.600] And still it's really expensive.
[28:18.600 -> 28:22.160] Like a race in the shifter class where I was racing in,
[28:22.160 -> 28:25.040] like per race could be like 8k which is in that
[28:25.040 -> 28:29.840] moment. And how many races per year or season? 2018 for example might have
[28:29.840 -> 28:34.520] done let's say like six seven. Yeah yeah that's enough that's enough money that's
[28:34.520 -> 28:39.200] that ridiculous. Yeah it's just very expensive. Just like that and and that's
[28:39.200 -> 28:42.280] like because we weren't we weren't paying full price in the sense that
[28:42.280 -> 28:46.200] because the team that I was with like like we, I think we got also after,
[28:46.200 -> 28:48.540] after my first year with them, like my first events,
[28:48.540 -> 28:49.640] I was already on the podium.
[28:49.640 -> 28:53.280] I was like, you know, top three of their driver lineup
[28:53.280 -> 28:55.500] out of the 10 drivers that they had immediately.
[28:55.500 -> 28:58.040] So that was like, damn, that was also to my merit.
[28:58.040 -> 29:00.000] It was pretty cool that.
[29:00.000 -> 29:03.880] And that was also something that then allowed me to,
[29:03.880 -> 29:06.800] and my family to like get better deals with them per race
[29:06.800 -> 29:07.640] that we would go through.
[29:07.640 -> 29:09.920] So instead of paying full price, we'd just,
[29:09.920 -> 29:13.060] more to what it actually costed.
[29:13.060 -> 29:14.680] So, but yeah, it was still really expensive.
[29:14.680 -> 29:18.160] And yeah, that was 2018.
[29:18.160 -> 29:20.640] But then 2019, a miracle happened.
[29:20.640 -> 29:23.440] My dad had a really good business opportunity.
[29:23.440 -> 29:28.440] He basically made proper cash, 2019.
[29:28.740 -> 29:32.300] Not enough to do an actual, so what I did in 2019,
[29:32.300 -> 29:34.400] I was really quite old already, I was 17,
[29:34.400 -> 29:38.020] but I went into Formula Renault.
[29:38.020 -> 29:41.520] Which in a normal driving career,
[29:41.520 -> 29:43.440] let's say normal in the sense,
[29:43.440 -> 29:49.480] Oscar Piastri, Filip Jugovic, Logan Sargent, they any I'm saying these names because they're on the
[29:50.880 -> 29:57.400] Yeah, the average Joe racing driver that's coming with a like a good promising racing career
[29:59.200 -> 30:00.720] Yeah, they
[30:00.720 -> 30:05.740] They don't go directly into a championship like Formula Renault, which is now Formula Regional.
[30:05.740 -> 30:09.080] Drivers usually go through Formula Four,
[30:09.080 -> 30:10.780] pre-season testing Formula Four,
[30:10.780 -> 30:12.620] maybe one year, two seasons Formula Four,
[30:12.620 -> 30:15.020] and then they move into a season,
[30:15.020 -> 30:16.700] a championship like Formula Renault,
[30:16.700 -> 30:18.100] which is now Formula Regional.
[30:18.100 -> 30:20.060] So what is the cost of Formula Renault?
[30:20.980 -> 30:21.820] How much does that cost for a season?
[30:21.820 -> 30:22.900] Formula Renault, so that year,
[30:22.900 -> 30:28.040] my dad, like I said, he earned cash with his business.
[30:28.040 -> 30:32.540] And, but like I said, it wasn't enough for the whole 2019 season.
[30:32.540 -> 30:37.400] It was enough to just like to enter and let's say, okay, we can do the down payment on half
[30:37.400 -> 30:38.400] the season.
[30:38.400 -> 30:41.040] So that's what we did contractually speaking.
[30:41.040 -> 30:45.000] And I don't know if I should be saying this or not.
[30:45.580 -> 30:46.760] We can cut whatever we need to.
[30:46.760 -> 30:49.560] I don't know if it's like politically speaking
[30:49.560 -> 30:51.280] I should be saying it.
[30:51.280 -> 30:52.520] I think you're safe judging,
[30:52.520 -> 30:54.600] we've had this conversation with a few other people
[30:54.600 -> 30:56.080] and we've spoke about like, you know,
[30:56.080 -> 30:58.680] how much is an F4C, a 3C, you know,
[30:58.680 -> 31:00.440] so yeah, I think you're safe.
[31:00.440 -> 31:02.800] Okay, so yeah, it wasn't enough.
[31:02.800 -> 31:05.680] So what would be enough, the budget, following your question, is around, it wasn't enough. So then what it would what would be enough the budget?
[31:05.680 -> 31:10.040] It would following your question is around let's say from a rental from the region and I was like
[31:11.640 -> 31:15.180] Half a mil basically. Yeah, which is a lot
[31:16.980 -> 31:20.480] Much for a level which you know, even though it's part of the formula series
[31:20.480 -> 31:29.600] It's still you know quite low compared to F1. Yeah, exactly. And it costs that much money. That's mad. Even quite low compared to, imagine the amount of coverage that they get compared to
[31:29.600 -> 31:35.280] even F3, FIA F3. Yeah, you don't really. Yeah, not really. Nobody really knows it. At least F3 and F2
[31:35.280 -> 31:39.360] is on the the same calendar as F1, you know. Yeah. You can watch it on the same weekend. Yeah, that's
[31:39.360 -> 31:43.920] the only thing that gives it a lot more coverage, yeah. But then Formula Championships, like Formula
[31:43.920 -> 31:46.000] Regional, they're still quite expensive,
[31:46.000 -> 31:49.880] but because ultimately, you know, the level in it,
[31:49.880 -> 31:51.960] you know, there's the same teams,
[31:51.960 -> 31:53.440] it's the same kind of racing,
[31:53.440 -> 31:56.300] maybe just the car is a bit slower and whatnot,
[31:56.300 -> 31:58.080] but it's really just the same thing.
[31:58.080 -> 32:00.200] Because then the driver that won that championship,
[32:00.200 -> 32:01.760] boom, goes to F3, and then he's winning
[32:01.760 -> 32:02.800] in that championship as well,
[32:02.800 -> 32:04.280] the F3 championship.
[32:04.280 -> 32:07.320] So, yeah, like for example, like Oscar Piastra did,
[32:07.320 -> 32:08.680] you know, he won the Formula Renault
[32:08.680 -> 32:11.000] that year in 2019 when I was racing.
[32:11.000 -> 32:13.440] And then the next year in 2020, he won with Promo.
[32:13.440 -> 32:14.760] Yeah, in 2019.
[32:14.760 -> 32:16.480] Is he good?
[32:16.480 -> 32:19.160] Like how, because a lot of people,
[32:19.160 -> 32:20.160] I think he's unbelievable.
[32:20.160 -> 32:21.960] I have a funny story with him.
[32:21.960 -> 32:24.280] And I think, you know, maybe you can clip this in.
[32:24.280 -> 32:26.160] Yeah, we'll make a clip. Yes, if, you know, following you can clip this in. Yeah, we can clip it.
[32:26.160 -> 32:30.800] Yes, if you know, following your question, if he's good, I know that that year he did well,
[32:30.800 -> 32:38.000] but I do have a memory with him that we were in Budapest, Hungary, around seven or around six of
[32:38.000 -> 32:42.960] that, from the Renault, and we were on the formation, we were on the, not even the formation
[32:42.960 -> 32:45.000] lap, the lap to the grid. So, you know, that before the formation, we were on the formation, not even the formation lap, the lap to the grid.
[32:45.000 -> 32:46.680] So you know, before the formation,
[32:46.680 -> 32:49.160] we were on the lap to the grid, it was raining.
[32:49.160 -> 32:51.000] And he was just in front of me,
[32:51.000 -> 32:53.480] I was driving just behind him, we were all driving slow.
[32:53.480 -> 32:56.280] It was like raining quite hard, and it was aquaplaning,
[32:56.280 -> 32:57.360] so it was like super slippery,
[32:57.360 -> 32:59.200] there's so much standing water.
[32:59.200 -> 33:01.000] And we were just going super slow,
[33:01.000 -> 33:03.080] but out of nowhere, boom, in one of the corners,
[33:03.080 -> 33:08.040] boop, boop, boop, he he loses the car and lands in the barriers.
[33:08.040 -> 33:10.160] And then because I was behind him, I don't know,
[33:10.160 -> 33:12.200] I was taking his same line, the same shit happened to me.
[33:12.200 -> 33:16.360] We didn't race.
[33:16.360 -> 33:17.800] We didn't even start the race.
[33:17.800 -> 33:20.200] We didn't even make the formation lap.
[33:20.200 -> 33:21.040] Both of us.
[33:21.040 -> 33:23.760] And he was like the championship leader in that moment.
[33:23.760 -> 33:28.640] And it was just the two of us and we had to go in the carts like, yeah, Oscar bro.
[33:28.640 -> 33:29.640] That's funny.
[33:29.640 -> 33:31.640] Thanks for sharing that, that's hilarious.
[33:31.640 -> 33:35.880] Yeah, we have a lot of people say that he's like amazing and he's going to be great.
[33:35.880 -> 33:37.200] So it's really cool to hear stories like that.
[33:37.200 -> 33:39.080] Yeah, mega job yesterday as well, right?
[33:39.080 -> 33:42.960] Yeah, big shout out for him and Lando too.
[33:42.960 -> 33:44.800] Yeah, I know.
[33:44.800 -> 33:47.440] And so yeah, where were we from before?
[33:47.440 -> 33:50.360] Yeah, we're in 2019, we're getting towards Formula 2.
[33:50.360 -> 33:53.640] Yeah, so yeah, I did, sorry, it's been a long,
[33:53.640 -> 33:55.440] No, this is a good episode, this is loose.
[33:55.440 -> 33:57.280] It's been a great episode.
[33:57.280 -> 34:00.000] Sometimes it's really nice just to hear a raw story.
[34:00.000 -> 34:02.400] Like we don't like doing interviews where it's like,
[34:02.400 -> 34:04.680] what's this, what's that, what's this, what's this?
[34:04.680 -> 34:08.400] We genuinely just wanna sit back, have a chat and learn.
[34:08.400 -> 34:09.240] And this is great.
[34:09.240 -> 34:10.060] And I've learned a lot today.
[34:10.060 -> 34:12.680] Yeah, you're getting really truthful insight on,
[34:12.680 -> 34:14.260] yeah, everything.
[34:14.260 -> 34:16.000] Because other, maybe perhaps another story,
[34:16.000 -> 34:18.460] they can also be truthful on their insight,
[34:18.460 -> 34:19.960] but it's just like, yeah, so I did 2019,
[34:19.960 -> 34:21.960] and 2020, there and there and there and there,
[34:21.960 -> 34:22.800] and that's it, you know?
[34:22.800 -> 34:24.120] Because we had the budget, we had everything,
[34:24.120 -> 34:28.260] and that's cool, but no, like my story could,
[34:28.260 -> 34:31.280] you know, in that sense, at least financially speaking,
[34:31.280 -> 34:34.200] I could like give you more some troubling insight on it.
[34:34.200 -> 34:35.040] Yeah, no, it's just great for us to hear.
[34:35.040 -> 34:37.160] And I think the people at home need to hear it as well,
[34:37.160 -> 34:39.560] because, I mean, like I said, everyone assumes
[34:39.560 -> 34:40.940] that there's so much money,
[34:40.940 -> 34:42.200] but it's not the case for everyone.
[34:42.200 -> 34:49.060] We know Lewis didn't have the richest family, for instance for instance. Yeah it's nice to hear it from you. Yeah exactly so for
[34:49.060 -> 34:53.560] example yeah 2019 I didn't we didn't have the full budget but we had the
[34:53.560 -> 34:59.400] budget for the let's say to the equator of the of the championship and and that
[34:59.400 -> 35:04.160] that was basically it. Once we got to the like round six then we were in
[35:04.160 -> 35:10.040] in the hopes that we were gonna continue my dad was gonna continue raising money and his business was gonna continue good to grow
[35:10.400 -> 35:14.440] But it didn't so when we got to like round six the team was like, okay
[35:15.440 -> 35:20.400] Can we continue are we gonna get a pay and and really yeah, we do we do we do it
[35:20.400 -> 35:26.720] But then we ended up not being able to so yeah yeah, so we, that was, I could say half a season, 2019.
[35:26.720 -> 35:27.640] And you had to pull out.
[35:27.640 -> 35:29.600] Yeah, I had to pull out of the championship.
[35:29.600 -> 35:33.040] I did, it was, I think I did six rounds out of 10.
[35:33.040 -> 35:33.880] Yeah. Yeah.
[35:33.880 -> 35:35.320] Which was, which was decent amount.
[35:35.320 -> 35:38.480] How'd you feel at that time when you know that you can race
[35:38.480 -> 35:42.000] and you know that you can do it, but it's just the money.
[35:42.000 -> 35:42.840] It was fine.
[35:42.840 -> 35:44.640] I didn't feel, I don't feel bad for myself.
[35:44.640 -> 35:48.720] I didn't feel bad for anybody. I didn't feel bad for anybody.
[35:48.720 -> 35:52.480] Because I know that the whole start of it anyways was just a dream.
[35:52.480 -> 35:57.880] And it was just based on my dad's love basically and also both my parents and my family, my
[35:57.880 -> 35:58.880] sister as well.
[35:58.880 -> 36:07.280] It was just the love that they had to me and that was basically everything that was pushing the dreams to go
[36:07.520 -> 36:13.040] to move forward and if it didn't work out then like I was like, how could I not be grateful?
[36:13.040 -> 36:18.000] You know what I mean? Of course. Yeah. It's better than nothing and because of
[36:18.440 -> 36:24.100] you know, the idea that's behind it, you know, it's more, it's bigger than life.
[36:24.100 -> 36:25.600] It's bigger than what, how could I ever, you know, it's bigger than life, it's bigger than what...
[36:25.600 -> 36:32.800] how could I ever, you know, be sad that, you know, that they weren't able to continue fulfilling the
[36:33.440 -> 36:37.840] dream, like... For sure, yeah. That's a really nice mindset to have, and I can tell that you're
[36:37.840 -> 36:41.760] close to your family, because like you said, they're sat downstairs, right now, having a dream.
[36:42.800 -> 36:46.080] I think that's really important when you have a really high intent,
[36:46.080 -> 36:47.920] when you do something of such high intensity,
[36:47.920 -> 36:50.160] like racing, you need a really solid unit
[36:50.160 -> 36:51.760] around you of people.
[36:51.760 -> 36:52.800] So I think that's really special
[36:52.800 -> 36:54.120] that you have them as a family.
[36:54.120 -> 36:55.240] Yeah, thank you.
[36:55.240 -> 36:57.400] That's really where my gift is.
[36:57.400 -> 37:01.320] It's not, or also, for example, my sponsors,
[37:01.320 -> 37:02.360] we haven't talked about them yet,
[37:02.360 -> 37:06.640] but that's really, in my story, the gift that I've had,
[37:06.640 -> 37:09.720] which is the love that my family has to me
[37:09.720 -> 37:11.160] and towards the dream.
[37:11.160 -> 37:16.160] And that's really where all the meaning is, basically.
[37:17.080 -> 37:19.960] And then we get, so we're getting towards F2 now.
[37:19.960 -> 37:23.400] Yeah, so, well, then it was still a bumpy ride.
[37:23.400 -> 37:25.860] I'll really summarize it now quicker.
[37:25.860 -> 37:28.440] So 2019 did half a season financial issues,
[37:28.440 -> 37:32.400] 2020, COVID didn't race at all, not even karting.
[37:32.400 -> 37:33.240] Yeah.
[37:34.440 -> 37:37.480] But then 2021, again, my dad after COVID
[37:37.480 -> 37:40.120] was able to see the light at the end of the tunnel,
[37:40.120 -> 37:43.280] got another business opportunity, brought up some cash
[37:43.280 -> 37:47.440] and similar story to 2019, not
[37:47.440 -> 37:53.960] for the whole season though, just we did again, initiating with half the season and then we
[37:53.960 -> 37:57.200] would see if we can continue bringing up the cash.
[37:57.200 -> 38:05.000] We were unsuccessful with that again, so I did another half a season in 2021.
[38:05.000 -> 38:09.800] And then that's, by the way,
[38:09.800 -> 38:11.240] I'm just going to give you another insight
[38:11.240 -> 38:13.520] on something that perhaps you guys didn't really know.
[38:13.520 -> 38:16.360] But Formula Region, you guys know the championship, right?
[38:16.360 -> 38:17.560] We know a bit about it, yeah.
[38:17.560 -> 38:20.480] I don't know if it's great to be saying this,
[38:20.480 -> 38:24.000] but that championship could be so bullshit sometimes.
[38:24.000 -> 38:30.440] Yeah, because this politically speaking you can have a car, a chassis,
[38:30.440 -> 38:36.140] literally a chassis and to what it's it's speculation but it's let's say like
[38:36.140 -> 38:41.000] generally accepted speculation in the product even though you're gonna go talk
[38:41.000 -> 38:44.160] to the championship or to the people they're obviously gonna neglect it.
[38:44.160 -> 38:48.440] But this is information that you know, like I said generally speaking
[38:49.340 -> 38:56.260] people drivers know it in the grid from the regional that chassis can really differ from one to another and
[38:57.040 -> 38:59.040] especially, you know in
[38:59.960 -> 39:06.300] It's I don't want to you know being I don't want to be mean to the tattoos, which is the which is the
[39:06.820 -> 39:12.240] Fabric the ones that make the chassis status. That's who Chloe was talking about in front Formula F1 Academy
[39:12.320 -> 39:16.000] Yeah, what was it before that? Well, they use an F4 car don't they an F1 Academy?
[39:16.000 -> 39:19.140] Yeah, but she was saying there was two different chassis. One of them was a tattoo chassis
[39:19.240 -> 39:23.560] Yeah, and then there was no generation second generation sound that he knows it. Yeah for sure
[39:24.200 -> 39:25.960] Yeah, that's probably but that generation, second generation, something like that. He knows it. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, that's probably, but that's,
[39:25.960 -> 39:27.560] cause like each spec, like Tattoos,
[39:27.560 -> 39:29.160] there's one spec and then they go
[39:29.160 -> 39:31.160] and then the next generation is like
[39:31.160 -> 39:33.760] new generation of chassis basically.
[39:33.760 -> 39:36.560] But one thing that does affect is like, for example,
[39:38.640 -> 39:43.120] COVID, right, 2020, 21 or 2020,
[39:44.160 -> 39:50.000] the factories that were producing these chassis didn't have the same, you know,
[39:50.000 -> 39:53.760] in the iPhones that for example, there was a shortage because there was no, they ran out of
[39:53.760 -> 39:58.240] iPhones. Same thing happens in racing, you know, same thing happens in the factories that are
[39:58.240 -> 40:02.000] making these, these cars, they're running out of materials, they're running out of shit, because
[40:02.000 -> 40:06.320] the whole world was going crazy back then, right? Of course, yeah. So, you know,
[40:08.280 -> 40:12.520] they weren't giving the most quality built chassis that year
[40:12.520 -> 40:16.600] and that 2021, I had a car that honestly was just mega slow.
[40:16.600 -> 40:18.560] The chassis was shit basically.
[40:18.560 -> 40:22.180] I was like, in power card, I was three seconds off pole,
[40:22.180 -> 40:23.920] which is Gregory's Halsey,
[40:23.920 -> 40:25.200] and which was like the fifth round.
[40:25.200 -> 40:28.980] 2019, which was my first year in single seater
[40:28.980 -> 40:32.680] that I just came up from karting into single seater racing.
[40:32.680 -> 40:34.160] Super level that championship as well.
[40:34.160 -> 40:36.680] Like I said, Oscar Pesci was pole, power kart.
[40:36.680 -> 40:38.820] I was four tenths off him in my first year,
[40:38.820 -> 40:41.840] my fourth round ever, like ever in a single seater.
[40:41.840 -> 40:44.240] That year I had 2021.
[40:44.240 -> 40:47.840] So like two years after I was older. I was 19 instead of being 17
[40:48.840 -> 40:50.840] like in 2019
[40:50.840 -> 40:54.080] And I also had done more rounds, you know, I after
[40:54.760 -> 40:56.760] like one round
[40:57.100 -> 41:01.440] One track two years after and I was like two seconds and a half in
[41:02.080 -> 41:05.140] Relatively slower, which makes no sense. No, no, no.
[41:05.140 -> 41:05.980] Which is so yeah.
[41:05.980 -> 41:09.040] And so that year as well was really shit because of that,
[41:09.040 -> 41:11.240] because I was just, I did half the season,
[41:11.240 -> 41:14.160] barely could have done it anyways and off for nothing
[41:14.160 -> 41:16.240] because I was just completely in the back of the grid
[41:16.240 -> 41:17.080] no matter what I do.
[41:17.080 -> 41:17.900] That's really tough.
[41:17.900 -> 41:19.240] And I can't, I couldn't be saying anything,
[41:19.240 -> 41:21.400] but that's the truth, you know, the truth is,
[41:21.400 -> 41:22.560] and I want to speak the truth.
[41:22.560 -> 41:24.040] Of course.
[41:24.040 -> 41:24.920] You can't do anything.
[41:24.920 -> 41:25.760] You put. That's your story, like your story to be told, like people should know. You know, the truth is, and I want to speak the truth. Of course. You can't do anything. You put it.
[41:25.760 -> 41:27.620] That's your story, like your story to be told,
[41:27.620 -> 41:28.460] like people should know.
[41:28.460 -> 41:29.280] You know what?
[41:29.280 -> 41:30.120] And you should actually,
[41:30.120 -> 41:33.280] thank you, and you should actually talk about this a bit
[41:33.280 -> 41:34.960] with, with Gabby Bortolotto,
[41:34.960 -> 41:36.120] see what he has to say with it,
[41:36.120 -> 41:37.400] because he was, I actually know him
[41:37.400 -> 41:40.960] because he was my teammate initially for that year, 2021.
[41:40.960 -> 41:44.120] He was initially going to be my teammate in that team.
[41:44.120 -> 41:45.460] It was called DR.
[41:47.500 -> 41:48.760] Which they had just like,
[41:48.760 -> 41:51.720] they bought a complete new fleet of chassis,
[41:51.720 -> 41:53.300] well, 2021 chassis.
[41:53.300 -> 41:56.000] And it was me, Gabby, and another driver.
[41:56.000 -> 41:58.360] And we all three had like new cars.
[41:58.360 -> 41:59.280] And we were just like,
[41:59.280 -> 42:01.980] I remember Paul Ricard in the test, pre-season test,
[42:01.980 -> 42:09.360] because he initially had signed up with this team,
[42:09.360 -> 42:15.360] but we did the pre-season test, Paul Ricard, again, three seconds away from Paul, and I
[42:15.360 -> 42:20.840] was like, we were within two tenths, like Gabi was maybe one or two tenths quicker,
[42:20.840 -> 42:28.320] but we were still like three seconds basically, off of two seconds or something. And literally, you know, like literally a month after
[42:28.320 -> 42:29.960] when the championship was supposed to start,
[42:29.960 -> 42:31.080] the first round was supposed to start,
[42:31.080 -> 42:33.000] he went to another team.
[42:33.000 -> 42:36.360] Yeah, but not necessarily because the team is bad,
[42:36.360 -> 42:37.800] it's just because, you know, these type of things
[42:37.800 -> 42:39.800] can happen when you have one chassis
[42:39.800 -> 42:41.840] that isn't as good as the other one, you know.
[42:41.840 -> 42:44.680] So this is where like my knowledge probably
[42:44.680 -> 42:45.580] is limited a little bit.
[42:45.580 -> 42:48.560] I mean, as far as I know, so moving forward to F2 now,
[42:48.560 -> 42:51.800] we're under the impression that the cars are all the same
[42:51.800 -> 42:54.320] under the hood, but then the aero can change.
[42:54.320 -> 42:57.400] Do you have issues like this with the chassis in F2 as well?
[42:57.400 -> 42:59.080] That's the thing, like I said,
[42:59.080 -> 43:01.480] I'm talking about a very sensitive topic here
[43:01.480 -> 43:04.960] because we're talking about, you know, quality management
[43:04.960 -> 43:06.480] in a whole freaking
[43:07.520 -> 43:15.200] company, right? A manufacturer. But Formula 2, no. Dallara makes a much better job in being
[43:15.200 -> 43:20.400] consistent with their chassis, with their products. So in Formula 2, that doesn't really happen.
[43:20.400 -> 43:29.680] And what you were saying about 2019, that's more timing related, right? Because of COVID and problems in the factories. Yeah, that as well. Yeah. Yeah. Um, even though, like I said,
[43:29.680 -> 43:36.320] you can't completely, um, or perhaps you could, but they're not going to like the, the manufacturer
[43:36.320 -> 43:41.200] is not going to like, um, uh, create like, I don't know, like a, a test and they're going to put one
[43:41.200 -> 43:45.960] driver and, and the same driver, just go in one car and go to the other and then say, okay, you know what, this chassis,
[43:45.960 -> 43:47.880] you're right, and confirm that the chassis is not,
[43:47.880 -> 43:49.380] they're not gonna do that because it's like,
[43:49.380 -> 43:50.320] they can't do that, you know,
[43:50.320 -> 43:52.260] because otherwise they lose so much cash.
[43:52.260 -> 43:55.840] But that is the case, and like I said,
[43:55.840 -> 43:58.600] maybe ask him, maybe ask Gabby when it comes on.
[43:58.600 -> 43:59.960] What do you think about that?
[43:59.960 -> 44:03.600] Because, you know, he was with me, like I said,
[44:03.600 -> 44:05.340] we were both eating shit basically.
[44:06.240 -> 44:09.040] So yeah, and then F2, that doesn't really happen,
[44:09.040 -> 44:11.640] like I said, different manufacturers of Lara.
[44:11.640 -> 44:14.760] Perhaps it could happen, but really on a more micro level,
[44:14.760 -> 44:15.600] you know what I mean?
[44:15.600 -> 44:18.560] Like we're talking about maximum between one car,
[44:18.560 -> 44:19.920] one chassis and another,
[44:19.920 -> 44:22.120] perhaps one is built a bit differently
[44:22.120 -> 44:23.880] because obviously chassis can never be built
[44:23.880 -> 44:29.280] exactly the same, you know? But, but there's much more consistent with, with the Lara,
[44:29.280 -> 44:36.920] Formula 2 and Formula 3. So yeah, so 2021, it was a shit show, basically.
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[45:35.520 -> 45:39.280] Even though in that moment when we, because we had the budget to do those two races in
[45:39.280 -> 45:43.360] Euro Formula but we didn't have the budget to do a FIA F3 championship.
[45:44.800 -> 45:47.040] But my dad was like still pushing with,
[45:47.040 -> 45:48.360] because he first had, like I said,
[45:48.360 -> 45:50.480] the dream imprinted on his forehead.
[45:50.480 -> 45:54.320] And he would get into places that,
[45:54.320 -> 45:56.200] get into opportunities with teams or whatever
[45:56.200 -> 45:58.000] that he didn't know if it was gonna work or not,
[45:58.000 -> 45:59.520] but he was still like building,
[45:59.520 -> 46:01.040] paving the path for the idea.
[46:01.040 -> 46:02.280] Yeah, yeah, business man.
[46:02.280 -> 46:04.600] In this context, that's what he was doing.
[46:04.600 -> 46:05.600] Like he was saying, okay, you know what?
[46:05.600 -> 46:08.040] We're gonna do FIIA F3 with you guys next year,
[46:08.040 -> 46:10.600] but let's do these two rounds in this championship
[46:10.600 -> 46:12.800] and I'll prove to you guys that my son
[46:12.800 -> 46:14.080] could be capable of doing it.
[46:14.080 -> 46:15.920] And then I go, okay, but my dad didn't know
[46:15.920 -> 46:19.440] if we were gonna be able to do the FIIA F3 year either.
[46:19.440 -> 46:20.880] So he was sort of like risking it in that sense.
[46:20.880 -> 46:22.120] He was winging it a little bit, I like that though.
[46:22.120 -> 46:24.920] Because then you still have like a winter break.
[46:24.920 -> 46:26.320] So then that was, he was counting on
[46:26.320 -> 46:29.280] that break to then like bring up the money and with any business opportunity that he
[46:29.280 -> 46:30.280] could.
[46:30.280 -> 46:34.280] I love this whole like struggle, if you want to call it a struggle, like I just love that.
[46:34.280 -> 46:39.160] It's been literally on the limit, like I said, I could generically just summarize it, every
[46:39.160 -> 46:46.460] single step of the way in my motorsport career, it was always a struggle. It was never guaranteed at the beginning.
[46:46.460 -> 46:47.300] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[46:47.300 -> 46:48.920] Yeah, but that's why it means so much to you now, right?
[46:48.920 -> 46:51.540] Yeah, even now, even now though.
[46:51.540 -> 46:55.060] And I still have to get into that, but yeah.
[46:55.060 -> 46:56.020] Well, let's do that.
[46:56.020 -> 46:57.220] Let's talk about now.
[46:57.220 -> 46:59.420] Because like I said at the beginning,
[46:59.420 -> 47:01.660] that TikTok for me, I thought was really special.
[47:01.660 -> 47:03.140] I thought it was really raw.
[47:03.140 -> 47:05.520] And you don't see that from drivers much,
[47:05.520 -> 47:07.880] putting their emotions into a post.
[47:07.880 -> 47:09.800] So, you know, we want to know like,
[47:09.800 -> 47:11.280] yeah, where are you at with it?
[47:11.280 -> 47:13.720] Okay, where I'm at now,
[47:13.720 -> 47:16.360] it's a bit of a consequence of last year.
[47:16.360 -> 47:18.600] That was the last year that I had to talk about,
[47:18.600 -> 47:21.960] which was a 2022 F3 last year.
[47:21.960 -> 47:24.560] To bring up the money for that year,
[47:24.560 -> 47:28.960] my dad had to get into some business
[47:28.960 -> 47:33.960] that on paper initially should have worked, but it didn't.
[47:34.120 -> 47:38.240] And so the cash that he brought up,
[47:38.240 -> 47:40.700] he used it for last year racing.
[47:41.800 -> 47:43.600] But since the business didn't work,
[47:43.600 -> 47:45.600] like he's in debt basically.
[47:45.600 -> 47:49.580] And so at the moment he's currently quite in debt.
[47:49.580 -> 47:55.420] And so that's sort of carrying on to this year in the sense that even though he's not
[47:55.420 -> 48:02.360] paying anything this year for my F2 racing, it's my sponsors, AIX Investment Group.
[48:02.360 -> 48:04.280] Your sponsor covering your whole season?
[48:04.280 -> 48:05.060] Yeah. Wow. No, I mean, Group. Your sponsor covering your whole season. Yeah.
[48:05.060 -> 48:05.900] Wow.
[48:05.900 -> 48:09.120] No, I mean, basically nine, yeah, most of it.
[48:09.120 -> 48:10.440] That's amazing, bro.
[48:10.440 -> 48:11.280] That's amazing.
[48:11.280 -> 48:13.320] The bit that my dad had to,
[48:13.320 -> 48:15.680] he basically, he's, it's been really,
[48:15.680 -> 48:17.320] basically impossible because he's in debt
[48:17.320 -> 48:19.000] for all of last year.
[48:19.000 -> 48:19.880] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[48:19.880 -> 48:21.240] So, but anyways,
[48:21.240 -> 48:22.320] well, basically what we're trying to do
[48:22.320 -> 48:25.240] is find other sponsors to cover the rest of, well,
[48:25.240 -> 48:30.200] the part that he had to do, which was, let's say like 10, 10% of the contract, which was very little.
[48:30.440 -> 48:30.940] Yeah.
[48:32.480 -> 48:37.400] And in the grand scheme of, of, of the actual contract, you know, it's, it's little.
[48:37.800 -> 48:39.840] But yeah.
[48:40.180 -> 48:46.720] And so it's kind of weird because for example, I'm in Formula two, but we can't afford the hotel room
[48:46.720 -> 48:53.260] Yeah, I mean, it's kind of weird. Well, that's yeah, that's mad to hear. Yeah, like it. Do you know what this is?
[48:54.640 -> 48:59.520] Madness, like I said, it's but it's really this year that I've been struggling the most because other years my dad
[48:59.680 -> 49:00.840] Hadn't been doing that bad
[49:00.840 -> 49:05.420] Oh really the moments that we've been this as like in this situation is this year perhaps.
[49:05.420 -> 49:07.800] And when I literally started, so like 20,
[49:07.800 -> 49:10.360] I'm sort of like going back to,
[49:10.360 -> 49:12.480] I'm reminiscing on my roots of when I started,
[49:12.480 -> 49:13.480] initially started a car team,
[49:13.480 -> 49:14.720] that was much more of a struggle.
[49:14.720 -> 49:17.600] Then my dad was able to cover a bit more.
[49:17.600 -> 49:22.320] And like, I'm talking about 2019, 2018, 2020, 2021.
[49:22.320 -> 49:24.360] But yeah, it's because of last year
[49:24.360 -> 49:27.080] that really got us a bit fucked basically.
[49:27.080 -> 49:28.720] And yeah, and this year,
[49:28.720 -> 49:31.360] like you were sleeping an hour and a way,
[49:31.360 -> 49:33.280] an hour and a half away from the track.
[49:33.280 -> 49:36.520] I had to sleep with my teammate that was in a motorhome
[49:36.520 -> 49:38.200] and because we have to wake up so early,
[49:38.200 -> 49:40.320] I asked my teammate, could I stay with you?
[49:40.320 -> 49:42.840] Because the motorhome was just next to the track,
[49:42.840 -> 49:44.360] like 10 minutes away.
[49:44.360 -> 49:51.800] So yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, but you know even on top of all that, you know I'm still racing Formula 2 and I
[49:51.800 -> 49:58.880] have the blessing of the backing, of the financial backing which is like I said, it's unimaginable
[49:58.880 -> 50:05.800] because if you put it into perspective, into relative perspective. If it wouldn't have been because of them right now,
[50:06.800 -> 50:08.640] we wouldn't, like on paper,
[50:08.640 -> 50:11.720] we wouldn't have the budget even for a karting championship,
[50:11.720 -> 50:13.720] really, basically.
[50:14.520 -> 50:18.680] So, do you feel that pressure?
[50:18.680 -> 50:20.840] Do you feel a weight on your shoulders
[50:20.840 -> 50:23.600] that you want to perform in a race,
[50:23.600 -> 50:25.880] not just for yourself, but for your dad?
[50:28.640 -> 50:30.400] Because of kind of what he's sacrificed, I guess.
[50:30.400 -> 50:31.800] Yeah, yeah.
[50:31.800 -> 50:34.940] Well, consciously I tried to filter it out, you know,
[50:34.940 -> 50:36.420] I don't want to drive with any burdens
[50:36.420 -> 50:38.560] because it shouldn't be a burden, you know what I mean?
[50:38.560 -> 50:42.280] It only should, it only should, you know,
[50:42.280 -> 50:50.440] give me more power, give me more energy, you know, which I think ultimately it does, because like I said, you know, give me more power, give me more energy, you know Which I think ultimately it does because like I said, you know the funny thing about love and about you know
[50:50.440 -> 50:52.440] all of these very wholesome
[50:53.440 -> 50:55.360] backgrounds is that
[50:55.360 -> 51:00.600] Love only brings more love, you know what I mean? It's not like love can create hate. It doesn't make any sense
[51:00.600 -> 51:02.760] you know, the only thing that love does is in
[51:03.360 -> 51:08.400] incentive more love. And so, the gut feeling
[51:08.400 -> 51:13.500] that I have towards all my story and when I'm racing, and even if I'm going through
[51:13.500 -> 51:19.700] all these struggles, it isn't of ungratefulness. It's really just about converting all of that
[51:19.700 -> 51:25.820] love into more love to give back. So, I don't race with a burden, I think.
[51:25.820 -> 51:29.020] I somehow, when I'm in the moment,
[51:29.020 -> 51:31.020] I really do convert into something greater.
[51:31.020 -> 51:32.020] Yeah, and that's great, bro,
[51:32.020 -> 51:33.800] that you can switch it off like that.
[51:33.800 -> 51:37.140] Because me, personally, I would be a fucking nervous wreck
[51:37.140 -> 51:37.980] in that car.
[51:37.980 -> 51:40.060] I just know that I would probably crumble
[51:40.060 -> 51:41.700] if there was so much riding on it.
[51:41.700 -> 51:42.820] But the fact that you can just switch
[51:42.820 -> 51:43.660] into that professional,
[51:43.660 -> 51:45.920] that shows that you're a pro athlete to me.
[51:45.920 -> 51:48.120] I am absolutely loving this episode.
[51:48.120 -> 51:49.520] This has been amazing so far.
[51:49.520 -> 51:52.360] At this point, we do want to get you on the sim.
[51:52.360 -> 51:55.800] So let's grab your sim lap.
[51:55.800 -> 51:56.640] Let's do it!
[51:56.640 -> 51:58.000] Let's do it.
[51:58.000 -> 51:59.080] And here we go.
[51:59.080 -> 52:04.080] Brad's three laps start right here, right now, on Pit Stop.
[52:07.080 -> 52:08.960] Oscar Piastri to beat. Flying down into the first corner there.
[52:08.960 -> 52:09.960] Beautifully negotiated.
[52:09.960 -> 52:14.600] Now I must say, the practice laps that we have seen have been quite quick.
[52:14.600 -> 52:18.640] So, no pressure but we are excited to see what you can get out of here.
[52:18.640 -> 52:22.120] Round the final corner at the end of lap one.
[52:22.120 -> 52:27.000] And we just won't know what that time is yet but I think it's quite quick.
[52:27.000 -> 52:33.800] Brad you've just done your three laps man whereabouts roughly are you kind of
[52:33.800 -> 52:36.940] hoping do you think you may have come on the leaderboard you got some stiff
[52:36.940 -> 52:42.360] competition I've got to say at least at least give me better than Correa
[52:42.360 -> 52:47.000] because yeah he's my direct he's more of my direct competitor at the moment.
[52:47.000 -> 52:47.500] Yeah?
[52:47.500 -> 52:50.500] I want to be close to him at the moment.
[52:50.500 -> 52:52.500] The good news is that you've beaten me and Jake.
[52:53.000 -> 52:53.500] Okay.
[52:53.500 -> 52:54.500] For a start.
[52:55.500 -> 52:57.000] Yeah, so that's pretty good.
[52:57.000 -> 52:59.000] You've also beaten Billy Munger.
[52:59.500 -> 53:00.000] Okay.
[53:00.000 -> 53:02.000] Billy Munger set a decent time.
[53:02.500 -> 53:04.000] You've also beaten Freddie Hunt.
[53:04.000 -> 53:06.000] Now Freddie came and set a stonker of a lap
[53:06.000 -> 53:08.000] and you've beaten Freddie.
[53:08.000 -> 53:10.000] You've also beaten Correa.
[53:10.000 -> 53:12.000] Oh let's go!
[53:12.000 -> 53:14.000] Ok I can be happy now.
[53:14.000 -> 53:16.000] I just make up the number and I say I can be there.
[53:16.000 -> 53:18.000] You've also...
[53:20.000 -> 53:22.000] You've also beaten Felipe Drogobic.
[53:22.000 -> 53:24.000] Ok now I'm in the podium.
[53:24.000 -> 53:25.000] Brad Benavides. You've also beaten Felipe Drogobic. Okay, now I'm in the podium.
[53:31.000 -> 53:41.000] Brad Benavides, you set on the Pit Stop fastest lap, a one minute, oh, five, point six, two, one.
[53:41.000 -> 53:58.920] Brad Benavides, you are top of the Pit Stop fastest lap. You didn't show me on the time screen, did you? two one
[54:02.540 -> 54:06.900] Oscar was our first guest on he said an absolute stonker of a lap No one has been able to beat him since we've had let's go that many guests on and you've just gone top of
[54:06.900 -> 54:10.420] and they were like it was honestly it was like how many laps of prep was you
[54:10.420 -> 54:25.340] did about five laughs I didn't did I overdo it or I didn't believe it, someone has finally picked Oscar. Let's go. Someone new at the top of the pit stop fastest lap.
[54:25.340 -> 54:27.340] Not gonna do it in Formula 2, man, fuck.
[54:27.340 -> 54:32.340] It'd be, it's time for me to do it there as well.
[54:32.420 -> 54:34.260] I am buzzing with that.
[54:34.260 -> 54:36.380] Absolutely buzzing with that, mate.
[54:36.380 -> 54:38.420] That is so quick.
[54:38.420 -> 54:40.060] I really adore you guys, man, honestly.
[54:40.060 -> 54:43.540] I really feel your, the way that you guys are so nice
[54:43.540 -> 54:46.360] and really, I really appreciate you guys.
[54:46.360 -> 54:47.200] It's awesome.
[54:47.200 -> 54:48.400] Oh man, that means a lot.
[54:48.400 -> 54:49.560] And thank you for coming down, buddy,
[54:49.560 -> 54:52.600] because we know you're flying tonight, is it, or tomorrow?
[54:52.600 -> 54:53.420] Tomorrow, yeah.
[54:53.420 -> 54:54.480] Back to Valencia?
[54:54.480 -> 54:55.320] Yeah, yeah.
[54:55.320 -> 54:57.520] Yeah, so it's been an honor having you here, buddy.
[54:57.520 -> 54:59.520] And this is a question I always ask everyone at the end.
[54:59.520 -> 55:01.320] I quite like doing it now.
[55:01.320 -> 55:04.160] If you weren't racing, it's probably an obvious answer,
[55:04.160 -> 55:07.160] but if you weren't racing, what do you think you'd be doing?
[55:07.160 -> 55:11.300] I don't know if it was on here that you guys asked Oscar that and he said about the engineers
[55:11.300 -> 55:16.960] thing. It was here right? Yeah. I couldn't say I would have been an engineer because
[55:16.960 -> 55:20.720] I don't know. I mean I've always, I really liked it, but probably I'd be a swimmer to
[55:20.720 -> 55:24.080] be honest. That's, yeah. If I hadn't have done racing I would have just followed that
[55:24.080 -> 55:26.240] path and would have been a swimmer.
[55:26.240 -> 55:27.240] That's really cool, man.
[55:27.240 -> 55:28.360] What an amazing episode.
[55:28.360 -> 55:30.520] Brad, thank you so much for joining us.
[55:30.520 -> 55:32.640] Thank you so much for being so honest with us
[55:32.640 -> 55:33.640] and having a great chat.
[55:33.640 -> 55:36.280] I'm sure the audience would have really loved this one.
[55:36.280 -> 55:39.740] Everyone watching, please do go follow Brad's socials.
[55:39.740 -> 55:41.560] We can't wait to follow you for the rest of the year.
[55:41.560 -> 55:43.000] Best of luck with everything.
[55:43.000 -> 55:44.600] And a massive shout out to your sponsor as well.
[55:44.600 -> 55:45.640] I think we need to let everyone know
[55:45.640 -> 55:47.400] at home, give them a shout out man.
[55:47.400 -> 55:58.280] Yeah honestly, like I said, they're a blessing this year and they're really willing to win
[55:58.280 -> 56:02.240] and I really sense that.
[56:02.240 -> 56:08.540] Unfortunately it hasn't come yet but the power that they have behind is massive.
[56:09.720 -> 56:12.560] Because given that they're basically,
[56:12.560 -> 56:17.080] in my view and many people in that area view,
[56:17.080 -> 56:20.120] basically they're the most successful
[56:20.120 -> 56:22.240] financial advisory firm out there.
[56:22.240 -> 56:24.520] You know, like they're based in Dubai.
[56:24.520 -> 56:25.320] You know the Burj Khalifa
[56:25.360 -> 56:25.860] Yep
[56:25.860 -> 56:32.660] They're like the highest they're in the highest offices of that building like when I did the introduction when I did like the
[56:32.840 -> 56:34.520] the press release
[56:34.520 -> 56:36.440] For them of me
[56:36.440 -> 56:41.960] Doing the collaboration in this project with them. I did it in their in their office
[56:43.080 -> 56:47.000] What's it called terrace? Yeah, which is actually the highest office terrace in
[56:47.000 -> 56:48.000] the world.
[56:48.000 -> 56:49.000] Above the clouds.
[56:49.000 -> 56:51.520] Yeah, and me, and the club, it was a club, we were above the clouds, the highest office
[56:51.520 -> 56:57.720] terrace in the world, and I was doing me, Brian Benavides, the speech to the whole company,
[56:57.720 -> 57:00.120] thanking them for the opportunity.
[57:00.120 -> 57:06.320] So yeah, they really mean business business and they really can guarantee their clients
[57:06.320 -> 57:09.440] that they're gonna manage their wealth properly.
[57:09.440 -> 57:11.800] They're the best out there to do it.
[57:11.800 -> 57:14.180] And so if that's what's behind me,
[57:15.800 -> 57:17.680] I really can sense that success
[57:17.680 -> 57:21.160] and success only brings more success.
[57:21.160 -> 57:23.360] I have that power behind me
[57:23.360 -> 57:25.800] and I'm trying to convert it into,
[57:25.800 -> 57:27.880] into really good success and win, so.
[57:27.880 -> 57:28.840] Mate, that's so good to hear.
[57:28.840 -> 57:30.920] And you know, like with every guest that we have on the pod,
[57:30.920 -> 57:32.720] now that we, we feel like we know you a little bit,
[57:32.720 -> 57:35.200] we'll be rooting for you every race weekend.
[57:35.200 -> 57:37.040] I can't believe you've just,
[57:37.040 -> 57:38.720] you've just gone top on our leaderboard, so.
[57:38.720 -> 57:39.560] That is so close.
[57:39.560 -> 57:41.880] I hope Oscar's pissed off about that.
[57:41.880 -> 57:42.960] So we can celebrate that.
[57:42.960 -> 57:44.880] And we've also got something else to celebrate too.
[57:44.880 -> 57:45.760] Yeah, we do.
[57:45.760 -> 57:47.400] I need to get it.
[57:47.400 -> 57:48.920] Not only do we have someone
[57:48.920 -> 57:50.920] top of the Pissed Off Fastest lap,
[57:50.920 -> 57:53.800] but the YouTube has also hit 70,000 subscribers.
[57:53.800 -> 57:55.560] So let's celebrate that.
[57:55.560 -> 57:56.400] Yeah!
[57:56.400 -> 57:57.240] Let's go!
[57:57.240 -> 57:59.800] Yeah, 70,000 subscribers!
[57:59.800 -> 58:02.520] Bro, we have to clean all this up.
[58:02.520 -> 58:03.360] Big men.
[58:03.360 -> 58:04.200] Yeah.
[58:05.000 -> 58:05.840] Ladies and gents. Brad, thank you so much. Thanks for tuning men. Good. Good. Ladies and gents.
[58:05.840 -> 58:06.680] Brad, thank you so much.
[58:06.680 -> 58:07.520] No worries.
[58:07.520 -> 58:08.340] Thank you.
[58:08.340 -> 58:09.180] Brad, you're a legend.
[58:09.180 -> 58:10.020] Thank you, bro.
[58:10.020 -> 58:10.840] Cheers.
[58:10.840 -> 58:11.680] Woo!
[58:11.680 -> 58:12.520] Yeah!
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