HAAS F1 DRIVER - PIETRO FITTIPALDI ON PITSTOP!🤩

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**Navigating the Complexities of the Formula One Racing World with Pietro Fittipaldi**

**A Journey Through the Tracks: From NASCAR to Formula One**

Pietro Fittipaldi, a Brazilian-American racing driver, joins the podcast to share his remarkable journey through the world of motorsports. Born into a racing legacy, Fittipaldi's passion for speed and adrenaline began at an early age. Growing up in Miami, he was captivated by the Daytona 24 Hours race, igniting his desire to pursue a career in racing.

At the age of four, Fittipaldi received his first go-kart, marking the start of his racing career. From local karting events in Florida to competing against future Formula One drivers in the United States, Fittipaldi honed his skills and developed a competitive spirit. However, the path to Formula One was not without challenges.

**Finding Success in Unconventional Routes: NASCAR and IndyCar**

Recognizing the financial constraints of pursuing a career in European karting, Fittipaldi opted for a different route: NASCAR. Competing in late model races in North Carolina, he faced fierce competition from seasoned drivers and experienced the unique camaraderie and intensity of short-track oval racing.

Fittipaldi's success in NASCAR caught the attention of Telmex, a Mexican telecommunications company with a passion for promoting Mexican drivers in motorsports. Telmex offered Fittipaldi a sponsorship, enabling him to make the transition to European racing.

Fittipaldi's European journey began in the United Kingdom, where he competed in various junior formulas, including British Formula Renault and British F4. His talent and determination shone through as he secured victories and championships, propelling him towards his ultimate goal: Formula One.

**Stepping into the Spotlight: Formula One Debut and Reserve Driver Role**

In 2020, Fittipaldi received the call that every aspiring Formula One driver dreams of. Following Romain Grosjean's accident, Fittipaldi was thrust into the spotlight as Haas F1 Team's replacement driver for the final two races of the season. Despite the immense pressure and limited preparation time, Fittipaldi showcased his capabilities, demonstrating his composure and racing instincts.

Although a full-time Formula One seat has remained elusive, Fittipaldi's role as a reserve driver for Haas has provided him with valuable experience and insights into the pinnacle of motorsport. He actively participates in testing, development, and simulator work, continuously honing his skills and staying race-ready.

**Exploring New Horizons: Endurance Racing and Future Aspirations**

Fittipaldi's racing career has extended beyond Formula One. He has ventured into endurance racing, competing in the World Endurance Championship (WEC) with Team Jota. This new challenge has brought him success, including podium finishes and the opportunity to race against some of the world's top drivers.

Fittipaldi remains open to exploring different racing disciplines, including a potential return to NASCAR or IndyCar. However, his ultimate goal remains securing a full-time Formula One seat. He recognizes the intense competition and limited opportunities in the sport, but his unwavering determination and impressive performances keep his dream alive.

**From Unexpected Opportunity to Thrilling Performance**

Pietro's journey to Formula One was marked by an unexpected turn of events. Following a long break from driving, he received a call from Gunther Steiner, the Team Principal of Haas F1 Team, offering him the chance to race in the final two races of the 2020 Formula One season. Despite the short notice and lack of recent race experience, Pietro embraced the opportunity and delivered impressive performances.

**The Significance of Family Legacy and Support**

Pietro acknowledges the significant influence of his grandfather, Emerson Fittipaldi, and his uncles, Wilson and Christian Fittipaldi, all of whom have achieved success in motorsports. Their support and guidance have been instrumental in shaping Pietro's career and fueling his passion for racing.

**Balancing Pressure and Internal Motivation**

Pietro acknowledges the pressure that comes with the Fittipaldi name and the expectations associated with it. However, he emphasizes that his primary motivation stems from within, driven by his desire to succeed and perform at the highest level.

**The Unique Bond of Brothers in Racing**

Pietro shares his close relationship with his brother, Enzo Fittipaldi, who is also a racing driver. They often seek advice and support from each other, creating a strong bond that extends beyond the competitive aspect of the sport.

**The Role of Simulators in Formula One**

Pietro discusses the importance of simulator work in Formula One, highlighting its role in testing car setups, evaluating new parts, and preparing for race weekends. He emphasizes the extensive time and effort dedicated to simulator sessions, which can involve long hours of driving and data analysis.

**The Thrilling and Dangerous Eau Rouge Corner**

Pietro reflects on his experience with a severe crash at the Eau Rouge corner during a World Endurance Championship race. He describes the terrifying moments leading up to the impact, the subsequent pain, and the long recovery process. Despite the traumatic incident, Pietro maintains his love for the Spa-Francorchamps circuit, considering it his favorite track.

**Overcoming Adversity and Returning to Racing**

After his accident, Pietro faced a challenging rehabilitation process, determined to return to racing as soon as possible. He credits the exceptional medical care he received and his unwavering determination for his remarkable recovery.

**The Balancing Act of Racing and Personal Life**

Pietro acknowledges the challenges of maintaining a personal life while pursuing a demanding racing career. The constant travel and time commitment required by the sport make it difficult to maintain relationships and establish a stable home life.

**The Future of Formula One and Pietro's Aspirations**

Pietro expresses his excitement about the future of Formula One, particularly the introduction of new technologies and the increasing popularity of the sport. He remains focused on his goals of achieving success in Formula One and potentially transitioning to other racing series in the future.

**Record-Breaking Performance on the Simulator:**

They discuss a thrilling moment as Pietro sets an extraordinary record on the Formula One simulator, securing a top-four position with remarkable lap times. The hosts express their amazement at Pietro's exceptional skills and the significance of his achievement.

**Insights into Formula One:**

Pietro shares his experiences as a Haas Reserve Driver, providing valuable insights into the inner workings of a Formula One team. He emphasizes the importance of simulator work in preparing for race weekends and highlights the challenges drivers face during races, such as managing tire wear and fuel consumption.

**Scariest Moments in Career:**

When asked about the scariest moments in his career, Pietro recalls two harrowing incidents. The first was a severe crash in 2018 that left him with twisted legs and required extensive rehabilitation. The second occurred during a Formula 2 race when his brother, Enzo Fittipaldi, was involved in a serious accident right in front of him. Despite the terrifying nature of these experiences, Pietro maintains a positive outlook and acknowledges the importance of moving forward and learning from such incidents.

**Coping with Disappointing Races:**

Pietro reflects on his emotional state after a bad race. He admits to feeling frustrated and disappointed immediately afterward, but emphasizes the importance of moving on quickly and focusing on the next race. He also discusses the impact of factors beyond his control, such as mechanical issues or strategic decisions, on his emotional response to a disappointing race.

**A Typical Day at the Factory:**

Pietro provides a glimpse into his routine when working at the team's factory. He describes spending long hours on the simulator, developing and improving the Formula One game. He also shares his amusing experience with the underwhelming food options at the Ferrari factory, expressing his preference for the exceptional barbecue in Austin, Texas.

**Favorite Country to Race In:**

When asked about his favorite country to race in, Pietro enthusiastically mentions Austin, Texas. He praises the city's vibrant atmosphere and the delicious barbecue available there, particularly at Terry Black's Barbecue. He also expresses his desire to experience the city's famous bull-riding attraction.

**Talking to Himself During Races:**

Pietro reveals that he sometimes engages in self-criticism while driving, especially when he makes mistakes. He admits to uttering profanities in frustration, but acknowledges the importance of maintaining composure and avoiding expressing such thoughts over the team radio.

**Favorite Formula One Driver from Childhood:**

Pietro names Fernando Alonso as his favorite Formula One driver from his childhood. He admires Alonso's exceptional skills and believes he deserved more than two world championships. He refers to Alonso as "the king" of Formula One.

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[01:30.480 -> 01:34.520] I was actually in the toilet and Gunther sends me a message, I need you in the hospitality
[01:34.520 -> 01:35.720] at the track as soon as possible.
[01:35.720 -> 01:38.200] I'm like, oh shit, I got to get ready quick.
[01:38.200 -> 01:41.520] Like either something good or something bad is going to happen now because for him to
[01:41.520 -> 01:43.500] be like, you got to come here as soon as possible.
[01:43.500 -> 01:46.200] So I got to the track, he was there waiting for me in the hospitality
[01:46.200 -> 01:49.120] sitting down the table and he had these papers on the table he was like listen
[01:49.120 -> 01:52.200] are you ready and I said yeah I'm ready for anything and he goes no pitch you
[01:52.200 -> 01:58.760] got to say you're fucking born ready I'm fucking born ready
[02:09.720 -> 02:11.040] Ladies and gents, welcome back once again to Pit Stop. Today's a great day, man.
[02:11.040 -> 02:12.320] We've got a great guest.
[02:12.320 -> 02:16.480] I think anyone at home watching who's a motorsport fan is going to know this guy.
[02:16.480 -> 02:18.200] So blessed to have him in the flat.
[02:18.200 -> 02:20.000] Yeah, it's going to be a great episode.
[02:20.000 -> 02:21.000] Ladies and gentlemen, Pietro Fittipaldi.
[02:21.000 -> 02:22.000] Happy to be here.
[02:22.000 -> 02:23.000] Thank you guys.
[02:23.000 -> 02:24.000] How are you doing, brother?
[02:24.000 -> 02:25.800] You good? Yeah, very good. Super happy we're able to connect. Ladies and gentlemen, Pietro Fittipaldi. I'm happy to be here. Thank you guys.
[02:25.800 -> 02:26.800] How you doing brother?
[02:26.800 -> 02:27.800] You good?
[02:27.800 -> 02:28.800] Yeah, very good.
[02:28.800 -> 02:29.800] Super happy we're able to connect.
[02:29.800 -> 02:36.000] I just got back from Japan a few days ago and then we're off to Qatar in a few days
[02:36.000 -> 02:38.240] so it was good to come by over here.
[02:38.240 -> 02:39.920] Yeah man, I'm glad we managed to get it in.
[02:39.920 -> 02:42.360] I saw you in Japan, you were filming with Will Buxton.
[02:42.360 -> 02:43.640] You were on F1 bikes.
[02:43.640 -> 02:46.520] Yeah, so F1 TV sometimes, depending on the race,
[02:46.520 -> 02:48.560] they invite me to do the post-race show
[02:48.560 -> 02:51.240] and some stuff in between the practices and qualifying.
[02:51.240 -> 02:53.080] So I was there with Will.
[02:53.080 -> 02:55.560] I always try to do what he does.
[02:55.560 -> 02:57.240] You know, he's super good on TV and stuff.
[02:57.240 -> 02:58.080] He's amazing.
[02:58.080 -> 02:58.920] So it's always exciting.
[02:58.920 -> 02:59.740] How is that for you?
[02:59.740 -> 03:01.520] Like doing that in front of a camera?
[03:01.520 -> 03:03.440] I mean, honestly, I like it a lot
[03:03.440 -> 03:04.900] because when I'm there as a reserve driver
[03:04.900 -> 03:07.400] throughout the race weekend, sometimes there's not so much to do
[03:07.400 -> 03:11.840] so if they're able to you know get me on you know to do some TV work either
[03:11.840 -> 03:16.000] on Friday, Saturday or you know even Sunday after the race it's
[03:16.000 -> 03:19.280] it's always something else extra to do you know so I always enjoy it.
[03:19.280 -> 03:22.800] Yeah because right now you're a harsh reserve driver right?
[03:22.800 -> 03:25.480] So you have no idea, you go to all these race weekends
[03:25.480 -> 03:28.040] and sometimes you may never even put a race suit on
[03:28.040 -> 03:28.880] or anything.
[03:28.880 -> 03:31.120] Yeah, some race weekends, I mean, you arrive there
[03:31.120 -> 03:34.320] and you basically follow the weekend
[03:34.320 -> 03:36.640] as if you were gonna race, but by the time it gets
[03:36.640 -> 03:39.840] to Saturday and the driver's qualified, it's over
[03:39.840 -> 03:42.240] because after the driver qualifies the car,
[03:42.240 -> 03:44.680] even if, let's say they can't race on Sunday,
[03:44.680 -> 03:49.440] kind of what happened to Lance, you can't put another driver into the car.
[03:49.440 -> 03:52.800] You can go straight into qualifying, but you can't go straight into the race.
[03:52.800 -> 03:56.720] So actually in 2021, Nikita Mazepin got COVID.
[03:56.720 -> 04:00.560] We were still doing the COVID test and he had a COVID test, I think on Friday
[04:01.120 -> 04:05.560] and he got his results Saturday night and he was positive for COVID.
[04:05.560 -> 04:06.400] And the team were like,
[04:06.400 -> 04:08.620] oh, you might need to drive tomorrow on Sunday.
[04:08.620 -> 04:10.120] But then they were looking at the rules and stuff.
[04:10.120 -> 04:11.920] It's like, you can't go straight into the race.
[04:11.920 -> 04:12.800] Oh mate, what a shame.
[04:12.800 -> 04:15.120] Yeah, so basically throughout the race week
[04:15.120 -> 04:17.920] and I'm there kind of following the schedule with the team.
[04:17.920 -> 04:19.760] Some of the stuff I do with the team as well
[04:19.760 -> 04:24.760] is I do driver data and like onboard analysis.
[04:25.000 -> 04:25.280] So just to keep me busy throughout the race weekend. I do driver data and on-board analysis.
[04:27.640 -> 04:30.740] So just to keep me busy throughout the race weekend. So throughout the sessions, I'm with the engineers live,
[04:30.740 -> 04:33.640] like looking at all the data between our drivers
[04:33.640 -> 04:36.960] versus other drivers on the grid and between themselves
[04:36.960 -> 04:39.080] and passing that info on to the race engineer,
[04:39.080 -> 04:40.560] like live throughout the session.
[04:40.560 -> 04:42.880] So from my driver's point of view of like
[04:42.880 -> 04:47.200] where they can improve and stuff like that. So that keeps me busy as well throughout the race weekend plus
[04:47.200 -> 04:51.000] the f1 TV stuff which is cool. Are you kind of secretly hoping that like a
[04:51.000 -> 04:54.760] driver bins it in practice or something so you can just get in that seat?
[04:54.760 -> 04:59.000] No honestly you're doing it because you always hope for the chance that you'll
[04:59.000 -> 05:06.160] be able to to race which happened when you know Grosjean had his accident and stuff but you know, I mean
[05:06.160 -> 05:13.040] maybe a crash, no, but if the guy eats some dodgy food on Friday
[05:13.040 -> 05:14.400] and you get to hop in
[05:14.400 -> 05:16.400] you'll be happy for that
[05:16.400 -> 05:18.400] I'm winning this weekend
[05:18.400 -> 05:20.400] you never know what can happen, so you always gotta be ready
[05:20.400 -> 05:22.400] we're all 27 years old
[05:22.400 -> 05:24.400] oh really?
[05:24.400 -> 05:25.100] when were you guys born?
[05:25.100 -> 05:35.100] 96 February. I'm June 96. We all have very different lives but I want to go, I want to hear your story like from the
[05:35.100 -> 05:39.940] beginning because how on earth did you start in this racing? I know you have
[05:39.940 -> 05:43.780] the family legacy and everything with the name but when did you first get in a
[05:43.780 -> 05:45.140] car? Was there like a moment?
[05:45.140 -> 05:49.480] Yeah, so the year I was born actually in 96
[05:49.480 -> 05:52.080] was the year my grandfather stopped racing
[05:52.080 -> 05:54.240] because he had a big accident in Michigan
[05:54.240 -> 05:55.760] and like broke his back and his neck.
[05:55.760 -> 05:57.920] And it was one of several accidents he had.
[05:57.920 -> 05:59.960] So the doctors told him you have to stop racing.
[05:59.960 -> 06:02.140] That was the year I was born.
[06:02.140 -> 06:04.920] So when I was growing up, my granddad wasn't racing
[06:04.920 -> 06:06.960] but I had two of my uncles racing,
[06:06.960 -> 06:10.560] which was Christian Fittipaldi and Max Pappas,
[06:10.560 -> 06:12.580] who was married to my mom's sister.
[06:12.580 -> 06:15.240] And I grew up watching them race,
[06:15.240 -> 06:16.920] and they were racing like in the car,
[06:16.920 -> 06:19.680] they were racing Grand Dam back in the day,
[06:19.680 -> 06:21.320] which is what IMSA is now.
[06:21.320 -> 06:23.280] So doing like the Daytona 24 hours
[06:23.280 -> 06:24.660] and all that type of stuff.
[06:24.660 -> 06:28.080] So I, yeah, when I was a kid, I would go watch them
[06:28.080 -> 06:30.360] and I would always go to the Daytona 24 hours.
[06:30.360 -> 06:31.740] It was my favorite race.
[06:31.740 -> 06:35.240] Cause as a kid, I would stay in the motor home with them,
[06:35.240 -> 06:37.960] like up all night, you know, I don't need to sleep
[06:37.960 -> 06:39.440] cause the 24 hour race, whatever.
[06:39.440 -> 06:41.960] And you're doing stuff at like two, three in the morning
[06:41.960 -> 06:44.940] with some other friends there in the paddock as a kid,
[06:44.940 -> 06:49.760] you know, and watching the morning with some other friends there in the in the paddock as a kid you know and watching the cars. It's such a cool environment. Yeah it's like you do the little
[06:49.760 -> 06:54.940] camping thing outside the motorhome and you know that kind of was my what I
[06:54.940 -> 06:59.600] remember racing or racing from when I was a you know a kid that's what kind of
[06:59.600 -> 07:04.480] brought me into it and then when I was four my dad gave me my first go-kart and
[07:04.480 -> 07:05.100] it started with going you know like once every two months karting you know you go me into it. And then when I was four, my dad gave me my first go-kart.
[07:05.100 -> 07:09.400] And it started with going, you know, like once every two months, karting, you know,
[07:09.400 -> 07:13.360] you go to the track, my dad would take me, and then it became once a month, once a week,
[07:13.360 -> 07:17.320] twice a week, three times a week, and then I started competing when I was around six
[07:17.320 -> 07:18.680] or seven.
[07:18.680 -> 07:20.680] And it basically went on from there.
[07:20.680 -> 07:22.800] And this at the time, we were living in Miami.
[07:22.800 -> 07:29.120] So I was born in Miami and raised there. And yeah yeah and all my carding and stuff we did in in Florida
[07:29.120 -> 07:33.880] Brad was Miami as well yeah you know Brad yeah so I think Brad I never raced
[07:33.880 -> 07:36.760] with him but I think it was my brother so my brother's five years younger than
[07:36.760 -> 07:41.120] me Enzo and I think it was he would race with and so I raised this year and F2
[07:41.120 -> 07:45.680] together this year so a lot of the guys like in the US
[07:45.680 -> 07:47.760] and even drivers from South America,
[07:47.760 -> 07:49.400] they would come to Florida to do karting
[07:49.400 -> 07:51.920] because there was a big karting championship
[07:51.920 -> 07:54.600] which still exists called the Florida Winter Tour.
[07:54.600 -> 07:57.540] And so all like the, let's say the Americas,
[07:57.540 -> 08:00.000] they would come to that championship
[08:00.000 -> 08:02.280] and that's where we know some of the other drivers.
[08:02.280 -> 08:03.520] This thing behind me is the thing
[08:03.520 -> 08:07.240] that I'm so excited to hear your story, but I can't wait to see this.
[08:07.240 -> 08:08.960] One, because you know Brad already,
[08:08.960 -> 08:10.220] but two, because you do a lot of stuff
[08:10.220 -> 08:11.180] in the Haas sim, right?
[08:11.180 -> 08:14.180] Yeah, so we do a lot of simulator work.
[08:14.180 -> 08:16.720] That's something we do just as drivers to keep ready
[08:16.720 -> 08:18.880] and as well to help develop the car.
[08:18.880 -> 08:22.720] And me and my brother, we stream a lot on Twitch
[08:22.720 -> 08:27.120] and now on Kik, and we do a lot of virtual championships and races.
[08:27.120 -> 08:28.200] So it's the F1 game.
[08:28.200 -> 08:29.040] Yeah, yeah.
[08:29.040 -> 08:29.880] A lot of Austria I heard as well.
[08:29.880 -> 08:30.720] That's what I was gonna say.
[08:30.720 -> 08:31.540] We've seen it.
[08:31.540 -> 08:33.000] You're actually playing on the F1 game on there,
[08:33.000 -> 08:33.840] streaming, right?
[08:33.840 -> 08:36.160] Yeah, so we play a lot in the F1 game.
[08:36.160 -> 08:37.600] We have the FITI series.
[08:37.600 -> 08:40.160] It's like a championship and we get our partners involved
[08:40.160 -> 08:42.280] and we get some cool awards and stuff for everybody.
[08:42.280 -> 08:43.120] Can we join that?
[08:43.120 -> 08:43.960] For sure.
[08:43.960 -> 08:44.800] Anytime, bro.
[08:44.800 -> 08:47.080] We're terrorists, be back on this man, it's fine.
[08:47.080 -> 08:48.440] No, but we do it with the chat,
[08:48.440 -> 08:50.020] so people just come in and join.
[08:50.020 -> 08:53.040] We get the best chat racers, the guys are pretty good.
[08:53.040 -> 08:53.880] That'd be hilarious.
[08:53.880 -> 08:56.400] And some pro eSports guys in Brazil.
[08:56.400 -> 08:58.700] And we always like, every time we're back home
[08:58.700 -> 09:00.740] for a couple of weeks, we do this championship.
[09:00.740 -> 09:03.360] So we probably do it like three, four times a year.
[09:03.360 -> 09:04.920] And with like cool prizes and stuff.
[09:04.920 -> 09:06.160] So it's in the F1 game.
[09:06.160 -> 09:07.520] It's cool that you and your brother do that,
[09:07.520 -> 09:09.640] but it's also really cool that you have your YouTube
[09:09.640 -> 09:11.520] and the English version.
[09:11.520 -> 09:12.360] Yeah.
[09:12.360 -> 09:13.640] That's a really cool idea.
[09:13.640 -> 09:15.920] Yeah. So we have the English YouTube version.
[09:15.920 -> 09:18.400] It's a Fittipaldi brothers, English channel.
[09:18.400 -> 09:20.160] And we're still trying to grow it
[09:20.160 -> 09:22.920] because the Portuguese version is, it's big.
[09:22.920 -> 09:24.760] And we do a lot with it.
[09:24.760 -> 09:26.480] And on TikTok, most of our content there is English, but like all the YouTube version is big and we do a lot with it and on TikTok most of our content
[09:26.480 -> 09:32.560] there is English but like all the YouTube stuff is like behind the scenes and vlog stuff from our F2,
[09:32.560 -> 09:38.800] F1 and World Endurance Championship race weekends and we do it in English too but we're still
[09:38.800 -> 09:44.000] trying to grow it. It's small still but we put a lot of content out over there. That's great.
[09:44.000 -> 09:48.960] Let's take it back to your story so you were karting every couple of weeks. Where did it go
[09:48.960 -> 09:53.720] from there? Yeah so I would say you know around when I was eight that's when you
[09:53.720 -> 09:58.600] kind of start not yeah competitively karting. I mean you go the local club
[09:58.600 -> 10:05.720] race and stuff and and it went on from there and then doing karting until I was 14.
[10:05.720 -> 10:11.040] And we never really had the funding to go race in Europe with karts or anything like
[10:11.040 -> 10:17.080] that because everything in Europe is seen as being, I'd say, more professional in terms
[10:17.080 -> 10:20.940] of the karting environment, but a lot more expensive.
[10:20.940 -> 10:25.000] So if you have the needs, you go to Europe and you start racing karting over here.
[10:25.000 -> 10:29.000] But it's like the budgets to race here are crazy and we were never able to do that.
[10:29.000 -> 10:32.000] So we always stayed local in the US.
[10:32.000 -> 10:37.000] And actually the kids that we always raced against in karting was...
[10:37.000 -> 10:39.000] My brother was always racing against Logan Sargent.
[10:39.000 -> 10:41.000] So he was always there.
[10:41.000 -> 10:45.280] Actually my brother's teammate in F2, Zane Maloney as well, was racing with my brother.
[10:45.920 -> 10:51.120] I was racing with Logan's older brother, Dalton Sargent. So he was like...
[10:51.120 -> 10:51.920] Didn't even know he had a brother!
[10:51.920 -> 10:52.960] Didn't even know Logan had an older brother.
[10:52.960 -> 10:54.080] What was he like? Was he good?
[10:54.080 -> 11:00.000] He was very good. So we were like rivals in karting there. It was me, Dalton, a guy that's
[11:00.000 -> 11:06.420] an IndyCar now, Kyle Kirkwood, Oliver Askew, which used to race for McLaren Indy car,
[11:06.420 -> 11:08.960] and Patricio Ward.
[11:08.960 -> 11:11.040] So a lot of those guys, a lot of guys that ended up,
[11:11.040 -> 11:13.320] you know, ended up going pretty far in racing.
[11:13.320 -> 11:15.320] We're all racing locally together,
[11:15.320 -> 11:17.520] like in Florida and stuff.
[11:17.520 -> 11:20.540] So it's a small world, but basically when I was 14,
[11:20.540 -> 11:22.880] we were thinking about moving to cars.
[11:24.520 -> 11:28.760] And like I said, we didn't have the sponsorship to go to Europe, so I said, let's go the NASCAR
[11:28.760 -> 11:29.760] route.
[11:29.760 -> 11:34.960] Because NASCAR was more affordable at the time to start racing.
[11:34.960 -> 11:42.240] And I started racing late models, which are these big 500 horsepower NASCAR cars in North
[11:42.240 -> 11:43.240] Carolina.
[11:43.240 -> 11:44.240] Yeah, yeah.
[11:44.240 -> 11:46.160] And I started doing well over there
[11:46.160 -> 11:48.880] and ended up winning a championship when I was 15.
[11:48.880 -> 11:50.720] He's a man of short stature, but you
[11:50.720 -> 11:53.520] got to remember dynamite comes in small packages as well,
[11:53.520 -> 11:54.400] my friends.
[11:54.400 -> 11:57.560] He might be borrowing a booster seat from Dexter Jr. too.
[11:57.560 -> 12:00.240] That's true.
[12:00.240 -> 12:04.280] Into turn number one goes Pietro Fittipaldi to the outside.
[12:04.280 -> 12:05.000] Is that just on ovals?
[12:05.000 -> 12:07.000] Just on ovals and short track oval racing.
[12:07.000 -> 12:09.000] So they're like quarter mile tracks.
[12:09.000 -> 12:13.000] Like you do a lap in from like 15 seconds.
[12:13.000 -> 12:14.000] Oh wow.
[12:14.000 -> 12:15.000] Other tracks are like 20 seconds.
[12:15.000 -> 12:16.000] How fast are they going in the cars?
[12:16.000 -> 12:18.000] Dude, they're 500 horsepower cars.
[12:18.000 -> 12:19.000] They're like big.
[12:19.000 -> 12:22.000] They look exactly like the NASCAR Cup Series cars.
[12:22.000 -> 12:23.000] So like massive.
[12:23.000 -> 12:24.000] 500 horsepower.
[12:24.000 -> 12:26.480] So in that track, you probably get to like massive, 500 horsepower, so in that track you probably
[12:26.480 -> 12:31.520] get to like 115 miles an hour, 120, but if you go down the straight you'll go to like
[12:31.520 -> 12:35.880] 180, 200, it's 500 horsepower, it's like, it's a proper little car.
[12:35.880 -> 12:43.360] And I was 14, 15 racing, and I was racing against these guys who were in their 20s,
[12:43.360 -> 12:47.160] because in NASCAR a lot of these these guys own the cars and the races,
[12:47.160 -> 12:49.600] which is different from Europe, they have prize money.
[12:49.600 -> 12:54.760] So you have races where they would race and if you win the race, you win like $50,000.
[12:54.760 -> 12:58.640] So these guys were actually, that's what they were making a living out of.
[12:58.640 -> 13:04.140] They would run the car themselves with a couple of buddies or whatever, but they were super
[13:04.140 -> 13:06.000] good because they were racing every race weekend
[13:06.000 -> 13:12.000] and they would make money off the prize money that they would win from those races
[13:12.000 -> 13:19.000] but I started racing that and when I won the championship, I was really focused on just doing the NASCAR route
[13:19.000 -> 13:30.080] my family moved to North Carolina from Miami, my sister hated it because she had to leave all her friends and stuff, my mom too, and they moved just because of my racing. And it was gonna go
[13:30.080 -> 13:35.120] you know the NASCAR route and I was finally able to get the funding through
[13:35.120 -> 13:40.480] the Telmex program which is a program who funded Esteban Gutierrez and Sergio
[13:40.480 -> 13:45.000] Perez to Formula One. I know nothing about that by the way.
[13:45.000 -> 13:53.800] Yeah, so Telmex is a telecommunications company and it's owned by Carlos Slim and he's very
[13:53.800 -> 13:57.880] like he has a lot of passion for racing.
[13:57.880 -> 14:02.420] So his dream was always to get a Mexican driver to Formula One and one day be world champion.
[14:02.420 -> 14:06.320] So he funded Esteban and Sergio and some other Mexican drivers.
[14:06.320 -> 14:09.660] He's involved in NASCAR and I won the championship.
[14:10.560 -> 14:12.120] Basically, he said,
[14:12.120 -> 14:13.580] "'Why don't you join the Tomex program?
[14:13.580 -> 14:16.160] "'You'll be the first non-Mexican driver in the program,
[14:16.160 -> 14:19.120] "'but I'll fund your racing, but it's not NASCAR.
[14:19.120 -> 14:21.060] "'You'll have to go race in Europe.'"
[14:21.060 -> 14:21.900] And then that's when I made the-
[14:21.900 -> 14:22.720] I was like, you know what?
[14:22.720 -> 14:23.560] I'm gonna go.
[14:23.560 -> 14:24.400] So my family had just moved.
[14:24.400 -> 14:25.120] And then I was like, listen know what, I'm gonna go.
[14:25.120 -> 14:29.200] So my family had just moved and then I was like, listen,
[14:29.200 -> 14:31.440] we gotta take this risk and go to Europe.
[14:31.440 -> 14:35.960] So then I moved to the UK and I was 16 and I lived
[14:35.960 -> 14:38.760] with another Mexican racing driver who was part
[14:38.760 -> 14:40.200] of the program too.
[14:40.200 -> 14:44.620] And I raced here, British Formula Renault, British F4.
[14:44.620 -> 14:46.920] So I won the British Formula Renault British F4 so I won the British Formula Renault Championship I
[14:47.520 -> 14:52.320] won this Asian f3 championship called the MRF and then the World Series
[14:53.080 -> 14:58.200] 3.5 championship and then I got my chance then with Haas and other things
[14:58.600 -> 15:04.920] Have to be a pretty big change from Nascar over to here though because in Nascar doesn't let anything go like it was a mass
[15:04.920 -> 15:05.240] Yeah, it's pretty wild, right?
[15:05.240 -> 15:06.240] Yeah, it's very wild.
[15:06.240 -> 15:07.400] That was a massive change.
[15:07.400 -> 15:10.160] But like the team owners I was racing for in NASCAR,
[15:10.160 -> 15:12.260] it's a team called Lee Falk Racing.
[15:12.260 -> 15:15.240] And it was a dad and a son who ran it.
[15:15.240 -> 15:17.880] The dad was in his probably late fifties
[15:17.880 -> 15:19.660] and the son in the thirties.
[15:19.660 -> 15:23.240] And they were like super into like,
[15:23.240 -> 15:24.600] you have to be disciplined.
[15:24.600 -> 15:27.680] And like after the race, you're cleaning the car with us
[15:27.680 -> 15:29.400] and you're taking the car apart.
[15:29.400 -> 15:32.880] So I was able to learn like a lot from then.
[15:32.880 -> 15:35.440] And a lot of things that I wouldn't learn here
[15:35.440 -> 15:36.940] in like racing in Europe.
[15:37.840 -> 15:41.000] But really like Southern American style.
[15:41.000 -> 15:42.320] You know what I mean?
[15:42.320 -> 15:43.720] The people must be so different.
[15:43.720 -> 15:47.000] Have you seen Talladega Nights?? It's it's it's just like that
[15:47.000 -> 15:53.100] It's like that short track racing. I used to race at a track where I won. The championship was called Hickory Motor Speedway
[15:53.100 -> 15:59.720] It's one of the oldest NASCAR racing tracks in the US and it's still running and it's a small little track
[15:59.720 -> 16:01.440] You just look up Hickory Motor Speedway
[16:01.440 -> 16:07.280] you can see and it's like probably we are probably one of the oldest tracks in the US, if not the oldest.
[16:07.280 -> 16:12.280] And I mean, you'd go there, the races were on Saturday night, the would be filled, the
[16:12.280 -> 16:16.120] grandstands with like at least 4 or 5,000 people watching us race.
[16:16.120 -> 16:21.800] 30 of these late model cars in a quarter mile track, so it's like constant racing and carnage,
[16:21.800 -> 16:23.600] like wrecks happening everywhere.
[16:23.600 -> 16:25.420] The first race I ever went to,
[16:26.840 -> 16:28.880] there was a preliminary race before ours,
[16:28.880 -> 16:31.920] so kind of like F2, you know, this is F1.
[16:31.920 -> 16:36.040] I was there watching and the leaders ended up crashing
[16:36.040 -> 16:38.400] in the last corner, last lap.
[16:38.400 -> 16:41.640] The guy who got wrecked got out of the car,
[16:42.520 -> 16:44.960] climbed on the hood of the other car
[16:44.960 -> 16:46.820] as the other driver was climbing out
[16:46.820 -> 16:49.420] and literally like karate chopped him.
[16:49.420 -> 16:51.820] Like, I swear to God this happened.
[16:51.820 -> 16:54.940] And this was the first race I ever went to watch.
[16:54.940 -> 16:56.300] And it was like my introduction
[16:56.300 -> 16:59.040] to NASCAR short track racing.
[16:59.040 -> 17:00.340] The guy climbed on the hood
[17:00.340 -> 17:01.760] and as the guy was climbing,
[17:01.760 -> 17:02.600] like climbing out,
[17:02.600 -> 17:03.860] he does like a double leg,
[17:03.860 -> 17:05.340] like jumps into the guy's neck
[17:05.340 -> 17:10.560] I love that I might be like by I don't know whether I'm biased or not, but I think f1 needs
[17:12.440 -> 17:15.000] And it's like ice hockey, you know, they beat the shit
[17:15.000 -> 17:19.420] Yeah, and then once the drivers start fighting then it's like the teams then fight with each other, you know
[17:19.420 -> 17:21.240] Because it's like the drivers are finding the teams
[17:21.240 -> 17:26.300] There's always police at the races and the police gets involved, but it's like local police, you know?
[17:26.300 -> 17:28.360] So it's like, they're in with it, you know?
[17:28.360 -> 17:31.480] So they let it run for a bit for the show.
[17:31.480 -> 17:36.060] So that's how I got introduced to Southern NASCAR racing.
[17:36.060 -> 17:39.480] But that's what I learned kind of car racing from.
[17:39.480 -> 17:40.720] I did karting in Florida,
[17:40.720 -> 17:44.240] but what I got into introduced to car racing was with that.
[17:44.240 -> 17:47.280] And then I came to the UK. It was a different route.
[17:47.280 -> 17:49.480] What a story though, I love that, that's really cool.
[17:49.480 -> 17:51.480] So you moved straight to the UK?
[17:51.480 -> 17:56.200] Yeah so I moved to a town called Camberley, it's in Surrey.
[17:56.200 -> 17:57.000] Okay.
[17:57.000 -> 18:01.880] And I was 16 at the time and I was living with my teammate which was a
[18:01.880 -> 18:05.360] Mexican driver, part of the Tomex program too.
[18:07.440 -> 18:11.080] And yeah, we're living together. He was a bit older than me, but I was kind of not thrown in the deep end.
[18:11.080 -> 18:17.880] But I came in here, my dad stayed with me the first couple of weeks, and then it was just me and my teammate, Diego,
[18:18.400 -> 18:23.880] living in a house, which was actually a family friend's office.
[18:23.880 -> 18:24.920] It's like an office house.
[18:25.300 -> 18:30.060] Yeah. In a house, which was actually a family friend's office. It's like an office house Yeah and then they moved to a building but they they kept the the office house because it was
[18:30.380 -> 18:33.080] Like kind of a lucky chart for them because they became very successful
[18:33.200 -> 18:37.920] And they had a couple of their employees living there and they said you and Diego can live over here
[18:38.020 -> 18:41.980] So we were living in this house and I was it was interesting very crazy
[18:41.980 -> 18:47.440] But I got to learn a lot and didn't know how how to cook or anything, or do any of that stuff.
[18:47.440 -> 18:49.160] I was always living with my parents.
[18:49.160 -> 18:50.160] Yeah, we hear that a lot.
[18:50.160 -> 18:53.520] Don't we, drivers come on here, they say, because a lot of people had similar stories,
[18:53.520 -> 18:56.360] and then they're put through the same path of having to learn everything themselves.
[18:56.360 -> 19:00.240] Yeah, because there's things that when you're 16, I mean, you're living at home.
[19:00.240 -> 19:01.240] At least I had the luxury.
[19:01.240 -> 19:07.360] Like my mom was always at home cooking and doing all the stuff that when you're growing up
[19:07.360 -> 19:09.680] you don't even think about, I'm gonna have to put my clothes
[19:09.680 -> 19:12.480] in the laundry machine, like I never even turned the thing on
[19:12.480 -> 19:14.160] like I was 14, 15, I never even did that.
[19:14.160 -> 19:17.000] We still don't know how to turn it on.
[19:17.000 -> 19:17.840] No idea.
[19:17.840 -> 19:19.920] So you learn that when you come
[19:19.920 -> 19:21.920] and you end up living on your own.
[19:21.920 -> 19:24.820] So then you see the privileges you had
[19:24.820 -> 19:26.920] when you had your parents taking care of you.
[19:26.920 -> 19:28.400] I think you appreciate it a little bit more.
[19:28.400 -> 19:29.840] You must grow up so quick.
[19:29.840 -> 19:31.360] In the space of like a year, all of a sudden,
[19:31.360 -> 19:33.240] you learn all this new shit and you're like, wow.
[19:33.240 -> 19:34.080] Yeah, I think you do.
[19:34.080 -> 19:35.900] You mature a lot faster.
[19:35.900 -> 19:38.520] And I think then every time I go back home,
[19:38.520 -> 19:40.520] like through the off season,
[19:40.520 -> 19:43.200] then I think you appreciate things
[19:43.200 -> 19:45.840] that maybe before you didn't.
[19:45.840 -> 19:48.760] You've raced in ovals as well though. IndyCar ovals?
[19:48.760 -> 19:55.160] Yeah, so the NASCAR stuff was all ovals and then in IndyCar as well, I did the Indy 500.
[19:55.160 -> 19:58.880] So I have a good oval background.
[19:58.880 -> 20:05.880] I think I'm the first guy that started with NASCAR and ended up driving or racing in Formula One.
[20:05.880 -> 20:09.800] There's been like F1 to NASCAR with Juan Pablo Montoya
[20:09.800 -> 20:12.440] and even both my uncles raced NASCAR,
[20:12.440 -> 20:15.040] but there's never been a NASCAR,
[20:15.960 -> 20:19.240] let's say sanctioned champion to then go from NASCAR
[20:19.240 -> 20:21.680] to then F1.
[20:21.680 -> 20:22.880] Someone told me that, so I was like,
[20:22.880 -> 20:24.680] oh, that's a pretty cool stat.
[20:24.680 -> 20:25.840] Right in the Instagram bio. NASCAR to F1, so that's someone told me that's I was like, oh, it's pretty cool. Yeah, right in the Instagram. But yeah
[20:28.760 -> 20:31.360] But we don't know much about never watched it to be honest with you
[20:31.520 -> 20:36.240] It's kind of hard to get on the TV over here. Yeah, it is it is but it's a cool cool event
[20:36.240 -> 20:42.980] I recommend going to Daytona 500 obviously and then as well. There's a race called in Bristol
[20:43.480 -> 20:45.720] Bristol night race, which is a short track.
[20:45.720 -> 20:48.480] No, so it's the same name.
[20:48.480 -> 20:50.720] It's Bristol and I think it's in Tennessee.
[20:50.720 -> 20:55.360] And it's like a football stadium basically,
[20:55.360 -> 20:57.160] because the grandstands are like massive
[20:57.160 -> 20:58.760] in this little track.
[20:58.760 -> 21:01.800] And like you, when you're on the grandstands watching,
[21:01.800 -> 21:03.680] it feels like you're like on top of the track.
[21:03.680 -> 21:07.400] Yeah, that's sick. It's like an NFL stadium with a racetrack in the middle.
[21:07.400 -> 21:08.400] It's pretty cool.
[21:08.400 -> 21:10.600] Where we grew up, we had Arlington, didn't we?
[21:10.600 -> 21:11.440] Arlington, yeah.
[21:11.440 -> 21:13.160] So like Arlington Speedway, it was tiny.
[21:13.160 -> 21:15.080] You know, you could probably fit like 500 people there.
[21:15.080 -> 21:16.880] There wasn't really grandstands or anything.
[21:16.880 -> 21:19.920] It still goes now, but that's probably the closest thing
[21:19.920 -> 21:22.360] that I can imagine to going to see NASCAR
[21:22.360 -> 21:27.280] because it's small, you're right up front with the cars and like you got pieces of rubber coming through
[21:27.280 -> 21:29.440] Yeah, thing and hitting you in the face and that you can smell it
[21:30.760 -> 21:32.760] They do the caravan racing as well
[21:35.320 -> 21:37.660] They call it stock car racing the other stuff didn't they
[21:38.040 -> 21:43.680] So I think anyone can compete like you can just you put a roll cage in your car and you're going to go smash it
[21:43.680 -> 21:46.560] Up. Yeah now that they sell fried Oreos though.
[21:46.560 -> 21:47.400] Fried Oreos.
[21:47.400 -> 21:48.440] Fried Oreos, bro.
[21:48.440 -> 21:49.260] No.
[21:49.260 -> 21:50.200] Yeah. At Hickory Motor Speedway.
[21:50.200 -> 21:51.760] They got the best fried Oreos.
[21:52.680 -> 21:54.000] Are they like a batter?
[21:54.000 -> 21:54.840] Dude. Yeah.
[21:54.840 -> 21:57.040] They get Oreos and they just put it in the frying oil.
[21:57.040 -> 21:57.880] Yeah.
[21:57.880 -> 21:58.720] I've had a battered Mars bar.
[21:58.720 -> 22:00.000] Number one bestseller.
[22:00.000 -> 22:00.840] Yeah.
[22:00.840 -> 22:02.960] Have you had a battered Mars bar?
[22:02.960 -> 22:04.600] Have you tried a battered Mars bar?
[22:04.600 -> 22:05.440] No.
[22:05.440 -> 22:06.260] Is it good?
[22:06.260 -> 22:07.100] They're good, man.
[22:07.100 -> 22:09.560] Go to like a Chippy in the UK.
[22:09.560 -> 22:10.960] You have to bring the Mars bar.
[22:10.960 -> 22:11.800] Oh, and they'll-
[22:11.800 -> 22:12.620] But they'll do it for you.
[22:12.620 -> 22:13.460] It's unreal.
[22:13.460 -> 22:14.280] It's unreal.
[22:14.280 -> 22:16.680] Would you ever be interested in going back to NASCAR?
[22:16.680 -> 22:17.640] Yeah, I would, honestly.
[22:17.640 -> 22:20.320] I really like NASCAR racing.
[22:20.320 -> 22:22.040] I like oval racing.
[22:22.040 -> 22:24.320] And as well, going back one day to race an Indy car.
[22:24.320 -> 22:27.280] You know, it's always been a dream of mine as well to race full-time in Indy cars, so
[22:28.120 -> 22:33.500] That's something that I'd always be be open to doing. But at this point in your career you are with Haas
[22:34.140 -> 22:38.080] Yeah, so is that like every race thing? Yeah, so I go to
[22:38.760 -> 22:43.220] Basically this year out of the 23 races. I've I'm gonna attend 18
[22:43.320 -> 22:43.820] Okay
[22:43.820 -> 22:46.640] And the other races I don't go is because it clashes
[22:46.640 -> 22:48.680] with what I'm racing in WEC,
[22:48.680 -> 22:50.320] in the World Endurance Championship.
[22:50.320 -> 22:51.660] So I'm racing with an English team,
[22:51.660 -> 22:53.440] it's called Team Jota.
[22:53.440 -> 22:56.700] And they're a very successful team in endurance racing.
[22:56.700 -> 22:58.480] And so yeah, when I have clashes
[22:58.480 -> 22:59.760] with other racing commitments,
[22:59.760 -> 23:03.580] then I'm able to go do my racing
[23:03.580 -> 23:06.200] and miss those events with Haz's nice that you can do that.
[23:06.200 -> 23:09.800] Was the goal always to get a full-time F1 seat?
[23:09.800 -> 23:12.400] Yeah, that was always the goal.
[23:12.400 -> 23:15.400] But that goal was always very difficult.
[23:15.400 -> 23:19.000] Because if you think about it in Formula 1, there's only 20 race seats, right?
[23:19.000 -> 23:25.000] And not every year a driver gets out of a seat and a new one comes in.
[23:25.380 -> 23:28.180] So if you think about it, maybe let's say on a good year,
[23:28.180 -> 23:32.260] maybe three or four maximum drivers get replaced
[23:32.260 -> 23:36.480] with new guys, but I'd say even four is a bit optimistic.
[23:36.480 -> 23:39.840] And yeah, and you'd think maybe there's seven
[23:39.840 -> 23:40.800] or eight reserve drivers.
[23:40.800 -> 23:46.080] So in total, there's like 28 roles as driver in Formula One,
[23:46.080 -> 23:48.620] and you're competing with so many other drivers
[23:48.620 -> 23:49.520] trying to get in.
[23:50.660 -> 23:53.020] So I think that's why it's, you know,
[23:53.020 -> 23:54.540] that's always been the goal and the dream,
[23:54.540 -> 23:56.500] but it is always very, very difficult
[23:56.500 -> 23:57.900] to make it to Formula One.
[23:57.900 -> 23:59.020] And that's still the goal now,
[23:59.020 -> 24:00.540] like it could still happen, you know?
[24:00.540 -> 24:01.500] No, it could still happen.
[24:01.500 -> 24:03.820] Obviously it's difficult.
[24:03.820 -> 24:05.720] I mean, I raced two races in Formula
[24:05.720 -> 24:11.200] One in 2020 when Roman had his accident. I've been with the team now for, it's my fifth
[24:11.200 -> 24:17.520] season and I do a lot of the testing for the team and the development and that's something
[24:17.520 -> 24:23.320] that as a driver I've been able to learn a lot from. But for sure, the goal with myself
[24:23.320 -> 24:27.640] is one day to race full-time in Formula 1.
[24:27.640 -> 24:29.640] But I know the position I am in my career now, too.
[24:29.640 -> 24:32.400] I've been doing very well in endurance racing as well.
[24:32.400 -> 24:37.360] So there's opportunities for me next year to do keep racing in endurance racing, which
[24:37.360 -> 24:43.680] is pretty exciting nowadays with the new hypercar class with Ferrari, Toyota, Porsche, BMW
[24:43.680 -> 24:45.640] all in it.
[24:47.520 -> 24:50.520] And if I can keep my, you know, do that and still keep my role as reserve driver in Formula One,
[24:50.520 -> 24:53.080] that's something that I'd be open to doing.
[24:53.080 -> 24:54.780] But for sure, if there's ever the opportunity
[24:54.780 -> 24:57.000] to go race full-time in F1, I mean,
[24:57.000 -> 24:59.780] any driver would take that any day, so.
[24:59.780 -> 25:02.400] When you stepped into that F1 car,
[25:02.400 -> 25:04.800] because of Grosjean's crash and you had them two races,
[25:04.800 -> 25:06.300] did you feel ready for it?
[25:06.300 -> 25:07.580] Because that must've been a pretty big,
[25:07.580 -> 25:09.520] like you're in, you're up.
[25:09.520 -> 25:12.020] So it was pretty crazy.
[25:12.020 -> 25:13.860] Because that year was the COVID year,
[25:15.380 -> 25:20.060] I was planned to race in Super Formula in 2020 in Japan.
[25:20.060 -> 25:23.420] And because of COVID, that ended up not happening.
[25:23.420 -> 25:29.200] So it was like the only year that I stayed without driving a race car for over like nine months.
[25:29.200 -> 25:32.960] Because I was supposed to be racing in Japan and because of COVID they canceled it.
[25:32.960 -> 25:33.460] Yeah.
[25:34.720 -> 25:36.800] So I was just doing my reserve driver role with Haas.
[25:37.360 -> 25:41.760] And when this race, when this thing happened, it was at the end of the year.
[25:41.760 -> 25:47.160] And I hadn't been inside a race car for for nine months and like usually the longest I'd
[25:47.160 -> 25:52.400] Ever stayed without being you know driving a car was like two months. So this was the longest time
[25:52.400 -> 25:58.080] I've ever been without driving anything. Oh my god, and I'm driving now my first Formula one race the most
[25:58.600 -> 26:02.240] Let's say unprepared or unrace fit that I was in my whole life
[26:02.240 -> 26:08.400] And the way it worked like obviously Grosjean had the accident on Sunday. Yeah, and we didn't know how he was doing
[26:09.480 -> 26:15.960] So but I always knew that there was a possibility that I might need to race. I woke up Monday morning and
[26:16.800 -> 26:21.000] I I was I was actually in the toilet and Gunther sends me a message
[26:21.000 -> 26:25.040] He goes I need you in the need you in the hospitality at the track
[26:25.040 -> 26:26.480] as soon as possible.
[26:26.480 -> 26:28.480] And I'm like, oh shit, I gotta get ready quick.
[26:28.480 -> 26:30.760] And go to the track.
[26:30.760 -> 26:32.560] It's like either something good or something bad
[26:32.560 -> 26:33.400] is gonna happen now.
[26:33.400 -> 26:34.640] Cause for him to be like,
[26:34.640 -> 26:36.160] you gotta come here as soon as possible.
[26:36.160 -> 26:37.960] It's like, did I mess up something?
[26:37.960 -> 26:41.960] Or so I got to the track and he was there waiting for me
[26:41.960 -> 26:45.440] in the hospitality, sitting down the table and he had these papers on the table. And I was like, for me in the hospitality, sitting down at the table.
[26:45.440 -> 26:47.400] And he had these papers on the table.
[26:47.400 -> 26:49.020] And I was like, is he going to fire me,
[26:49.020 -> 26:51.320] or he's going to tell me something good here?
[26:51.320 -> 26:51.840] So I arrive.
[26:51.840 -> 26:52.640] I sat down.
[26:52.640 -> 26:55.760] And he started speaking.
[26:55.760 -> 26:59.080] And he was like, listen, are you ready?
[26:59.080 -> 27:00.680] And I said, what do you mean?
[27:00.680 -> 27:02.120] I said, and he goes, are you ready?
[27:02.120 -> 27:04.120] And I said, yeah, I'm ready for anything.
[27:04.120 -> 27:05.520] And he goes, no, Pietro, you got to say, you're ready for anything. And he goes, no, Pietro, you gotta say,
[27:05.520 -> 27:06.800] you're fucking born ready.
[27:06.800 -> 27:09.680] And I said, all right, Gunther, I'm fucking born ready.
[27:09.680 -> 27:12.000] So he goes, so here are the papers
[27:12.000 -> 27:15.660] and we want you to do the final two races in Formula One
[27:15.660 -> 27:17.580] because Roman, he's healthy and stuff,
[27:17.580 -> 27:20.520] but he won't be able to do the Bahrain and Abu Dhabi
[27:20.520 -> 27:21.920] and we want you in the car.
[27:21.920 -> 27:23.240] So then I go, I sign the papers
[27:23.240 -> 27:27.280] and then I was in to drive the last two races.
[27:27.280 -> 27:29.960] Luckily I had Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday
[27:29.960 -> 27:31.780] to prepare with the team.
[27:31.780 -> 27:33.920] So it wasn't like a Liam Lawson call up
[27:33.920 -> 27:36.240] where it was middle of the day,
[27:36.240 -> 27:38.520] like you gotta get in now.
[27:38.520 -> 27:40.300] I had a few days to prepare.
[27:41.340 -> 27:42.280] But honestly, as I said,
[27:42.280 -> 27:44.320] it was the longest I hadn't been driving.
[27:50.700 -> 27:58.300] But when you get in, it takes you a few laps, one run, and you're already back in the groove. It's like if you haven't ridden a bicycle for a long time, or if you haven't played a video game that, let's say, you were really good at for a long time, and you start playing it again, it kind of...
[27:58.300 -> 27:59.000] It comes back.
[27:59.000 -> 28:01.300] It comes back very fast.
[28:01.300 -> 28:05.520] So it came back fast, and we performed really well.
[28:05.520 -> 28:12.720] Like even in Abu Dhabi, if you look at the qualifying there, I was on par with Kevin Magnussen at the time.
[28:12.720 -> 28:19.040] And in the race as well, we had a good strategy. We overtook him and we were on for a decent finish.
[28:19.040 -> 28:27.360] Haz had the worst car of the season that year. Then we had some gearbox problems that we had to do some extra pit stops, but we, you know
[28:27.360 -> 28:29.520] I got in and we had a really good performance.
[28:29.520 -> 28:31.400] And I think for me, that was a person
[28:31.400 -> 28:32.720] that was really, really important.
[28:32.720 -> 28:34.560] When you walked out of hospitality that day
[28:34.560 -> 28:36.880] after being given them papers, do you remember
[28:36.880 -> 28:38.400] like the first person you text?
[28:38.400 -> 28:40.200] I was trying to call my dad
[28:40.200 -> 28:43.000] but my dad was sleeping in the US
[28:43.000 -> 28:44.160] cause my dad always works with me
[28:44.160 -> 28:45.560] and my brother very closely. Yeah, and
[28:46.360 -> 28:51.760] I was like obviously extremely excited and I was trying to call him but they were in the States
[28:51.760 -> 28:53.440] So it was like super early for them
[28:53.440 -> 28:57.480] I kept trying to ring him ring and they wouldn't answer and everybody that I knew was sleeping
[28:57.760 -> 29:00.320] So by the time they woke up it was like
[29:01.280 -> 29:09.680] 4 p.m. In the afternoon in Bahrain and I already had they woke up to the news basically so I couldn't speak to anybody like close to me until
[29:09.680 -> 29:14.120] they woke up and already saw the news because everybody was sleeping.
[29:14.120 -> 29:17.880] It was a bit of a buzzkill, I'm trying to call some people that I know
[29:17.880 -> 29:23.600] they'll be like, I'm racing Formula One, nobody's awake.
[29:23.600 -> 29:30.000] How much of a kind of relationship or like how much of an interest does your granddad show with what you do?
[29:30.000 -> 29:34.000] Yeah, so my granddad, he's basically...
[29:34.000 -> 29:36.000] Because he's a legend, I mean, you know it.
[29:36.000 -> 29:39.000] When I first told my dad that you were coming on the pod, he was like, what?
[29:39.000 -> 29:42.000] A fit of power, that's F1 royalty.
[29:42.000 -> 29:47.440] Yeah, so obviously my grandfather in racing, yeah, as you said,
[29:47.440 -> 29:49.360] he's a legend, especially in Brazil.
[29:49.360 -> 29:53.280] I think he opened the doors for Brazilian racing drivers
[29:53.280 -> 29:56.560] in Formula 1 because he was the first successful Brazilian
[29:56.560 -> 30:01.200] Formula 1 driver and the first Brazilian F1 champion.
[30:01.200 -> 30:04.920] And not only him, but having both my uncles who
[30:04.920 -> 30:10.280] are involved in racing and to have their support is like is a massive privilege, you know
[30:11.360 -> 30:16.560] Because I get up, you know messages from a lot of people and even some family friends
[30:16.560 -> 30:18.200] I go if I if I wanted to start racing
[30:18.200 -> 30:21.160] What do I have to do and I always had that kind of?
[30:21.520 -> 30:24.600] Easy to me like I know exactly what I need to do
[30:24.840 -> 30:25.320] If I want to go racing like I kind of easy to me, like I know exactly what I need to do
[30:25.320 -> 30:26.280] if I wanna go racing.
[30:26.280 -> 30:29.640] Like I kinda know the path in a way.
[30:29.640 -> 30:31.880] So to get into motorsport, it was natural.
[30:31.880 -> 30:33.960] Where like if someone that, you know,
[30:33.960 -> 30:35.440] isn't involved in motorsport,
[30:35.440 -> 30:37.320] it's difficult to be like, how do I,
[30:37.320 -> 30:40.440] what are the steps I need to make to get to Formula One?
[30:40.440 -> 30:42.560] To actually find that out and do it, it's hard.
[30:42.560 -> 30:45.960] And I, both me and my brother had that from the beginning.
[30:45.960 -> 30:48.560] So I think that for us was a very big help.
[30:48.560 -> 30:51.400] Do you feel pressure to try and kind of live up to,
[30:51.400 -> 30:52.940] you know, what your granddad and your uncles did?
[30:52.940 -> 30:54.580] Yeah, you know, people ask me that a lot.
[30:54.580 -> 30:57.120] And for me, it's like, I'm doing what I love
[30:57.120 -> 31:01.320] and I'm doing it because I want to be successful.
[31:01.320 -> 31:05.400] And I've always been very competitive in anything I do.
[31:05.400 -> 31:08.120] So I just play a lot of basketball and football
[31:08.120 -> 31:10.600] and I always like doing the sport
[31:10.600 -> 31:12.960] because of the competition aspect of it.
[31:12.960 -> 31:15.600] And for me, racing is something that I'm very good at
[31:15.600 -> 31:18.040] and I like the competing aspect of it
[31:18.040 -> 31:19.720] and I wanna do it to win.
[31:19.720 -> 31:22.280] So the pressure comes from myself
[31:22.280 -> 31:26.240] because if I'm not doing well, I'm not going to be happy.
[31:26.240 -> 31:28.240] I'm not just doing it to, you know,
[31:28.240 -> 31:29.480] I like racing cars and stuff.
[31:29.480 -> 31:30.320] It's not, I want to win.
[31:30.320 -> 31:32.180] So, and be successful in what I'm doing.
[31:32.180 -> 31:35.520] So I think the pressure is a lot more from within
[31:35.520 -> 31:39.040] than from what anybody else outside can give.
[31:39.040 -> 31:40.680] And that's what I feel.
[31:40.680 -> 31:43.080] It's pretty special having like a family connection
[31:43.080 -> 31:44.040] running all the way through.
[31:44.040 -> 31:47.520] Cause like, I mean, your brother's an F F2 so he must lean on you and speak to you
[31:47.520 -> 31:51.680] about stuff. Does he think he's better than you? We both think we're better than each other.
[31:52.720 -> 31:57.920] Well we need to get him on, you can both sit and laugh. We've never, there was the only race we did
[31:57.920 -> 32:02.080] together it was a karting race, it was a club race where they mixed two classes because he was five
[32:02.080 -> 32:06.880] years younger so we're always too big of an age difference but it was the one race where they mix two classes, because he was five years younger, so we're always too big of an age difference, but it was the one race where they mixed the classes and the
[32:06.880 -> 32:12.840] karts were kind of similar, and I was like, I don't know, 12 at the time, and he was like
[32:12.840 -> 32:18.900] seven or eight, and we start the race, and he crashes into me, gets his kart stuck on
[32:18.900 -> 32:23.360] top of mine, and Enzo's always been super small, I mean, he was eight at the time, but
[32:23.360 -> 32:25.400] he was like, I mean, the kid was always very small.
[32:25.400 -> 32:26.520] There's pictures of him carting,
[32:26.520 -> 32:28.960] like he looks like a baby in the cart.
[32:28.960 -> 32:31.400] And it was the only race we raced against each other.
[32:31.400 -> 32:33.580] We crashed, his car was stuck on mine.
[32:33.580 -> 32:35.160] I was trying to lift his cart out of mine
[32:35.160 -> 32:37.720] and he was flicking me off while I was doing it.
[32:37.720 -> 32:40.000] Like an eight year old Denzo.
[32:40.000 -> 32:42.800] You motherfucker, you wrecked me, whatever.
[32:43.680 -> 32:44.920] So that was the only race.
[32:44.920 -> 32:47.560] So one day I want to race him on a real track
[32:47.560 -> 32:49.440] with the race car and then we can.
[32:49.440 -> 32:52.640] That's a dream actually one day to either be racing
[32:52.640 -> 32:55.880] in Formula One together or in IndyCar or something.
[32:55.880 -> 32:56.960] That'd be the ultimate dream.
[32:56.960 -> 32:58.440] Cause me and him were super close.
[32:58.440 -> 33:01.780] We've lived together all the time.
[33:01.780 -> 33:07.380] And yeah, every F1 race that I'm there with haas. I'm also there trying to help him and
[33:08.120 -> 33:13.640] When he's coming to my races, he's there supporting me. So that's great. Yeah, we have a really strong bond
[33:13.640 -> 33:13.840] Yeah
[33:13.840 -> 33:15.360] We hear a few people that say
[33:15.360 -> 33:20.400] The people that do the test driving and the sim work for the teams they never get the credit they deserve
[33:20.600 -> 33:22.800] Like we've got a lot of friends who've done it for
[33:22.960 -> 33:26.720] other teams and stuff and we just hear that they never get the credit because
[33:26.720 -> 33:28.840] you're putting in an unbelievable amount of work, right?
[33:28.840 -> 33:29.800] In the sim and.
[33:29.800 -> 33:30.640] Yeah, it is.
[33:30.640 -> 33:31.460] It is difficult.
[33:31.460 -> 33:33.160] I remember the first year with Haas in 2019,
[33:33.160 -> 33:34.680] I think we did a,
[33:34.680 -> 33:37.300] it was like 60 to 70 days of simulator work.
[33:37.300 -> 33:39.920] And the simulator stuff you do is like you arrive nine in
[33:39.920 -> 33:42.720] the morning and you leave at six and you have a one hour
[33:42.720 -> 33:43.540] break.
[33:43.540 -> 33:49.040] It's like a normal job day, one hour break of lunch, but if you think about you're doing like six hours
[33:49.040 -> 33:53.800] of driving on the simulator, like probably doing like 150 laps a day.
[33:53.800 -> 33:59.840] So like that, I did over close to like 10,000 laps on the simulator, so it's
[33:59.840 -> 34:03.600] like hours, hours of pounding and it's um yeah.
[34:03.600 -> 34:05.160] And what are you trying to get there?
[34:05.160 -> 34:06.760] What are they asking you for?
[34:06.760 -> 34:09.360] So the driver, you're there, you know,
[34:09.360 -> 34:11.820] to give your feedback and, you know, do the driving.
[34:11.820 -> 34:13.400] So drive as best as you can,
[34:13.400 -> 34:16.840] but they're testing things on the car.
[34:16.840 -> 34:19.200] So different setups before a race weekend.
[34:19.200 -> 34:21.660] So if we're racing in Barcelona next weekend,
[34:21.660 -> 34:24.160] they're gonna put the base setup of what they think is best
[34:24.160 -> 34:29.460] for Barcelona on the simulator. I'm gonna drive it and test it, if I feel like the balance
[34:29.460 -> 34:36.440] of the car can be better, they're gonna make those changes on the simulator to get the
[34:36.440 -> 34:39.380] setup better before the race weekend even starts.
[34:39.380 -> 34:43.600] And as well, if they have new parts and new things, aero parts that they wanna test on
[34:43.600 -> 34:51.080] the car, everything that they do nowadays, it's all simulation online, which they call like CFD.
[34:51.080 -> 34:54.560] So they're able to integrate that onto the simulator.
[34:54.560 -> 34:58.580] So if they're making aero gains with new parts and stuff, they're actually able to put that
[34:58.580 -> 35:01.300] into the simulator Formula One car.
[35:01.300 -> 35:04.360] And we're able to see the differences it does with handling and stuff.
[35:04.360 -> 35:05.320] What do you use?
[35:05.320 -> 35:06.320] F123?
[35:06.320 -> 35:09.800] Yeah, some iRacing here and there.
[35:09.800 -> 35:12.400] Do they ever do simulator laps in the rain?
[35:12.400 -> 35:15.680] No, in the rain no, because it's so hard to simulate the rain.
[35:15.680 -> 35:17.400] Oh yeah, I wasn't sure whether they could simulate that.
[35:17.400 -> 35:23.040] Because the rain is so inconsistent, it's hard to simulate the rain and stuff.
[35:23.040 -> 35:27.000] So it's always dry, dry weather.
[35:27.000 -> 35:28.320] You probably can't talk too much about it,
[35:28.320 -> 35:30.560] but like what is like an F1 team sim like?
[35:30.560 -> 35:33.800] And I know they probably vary from team to team.
[35:33.800 -> 35:37.120] We went to, which is a team.
[35:37.120 -> 35:39.640] And they had a room probably about this size
[35:39.640 -> 35:41.880] with like kind of like, it's like half a car in it,
[35:41.880 -> 35:43.720] you know, and you get in, but you put the gloves on.
[35:43.720 -> 35:44.560] Did we wear a helmet?
[35:44.560 -> 35:46.160] I don't think we did, but we had like,
[35:46.160 -> 35:47.520] we had the suit, didn't we?
[35:47.520 -> 35:48.360] We had something.
[35:48.360 -> 35:49.180] Oh yeah, we dressed up.
[35:49.180 -> 35:51.600] And the screen kind of comes all the way around here.
[35:51.600 -> 35:52.480] And it's awesome, man.
[35:52.480 -> 35:53.320] It's so cool.
[35:53.320 -> 35:54.960] So what's it like in a Haas Sim?
[35:54.960 -> 35:58.000] So we as well use the Ferrari simulator.
[35:58.000 -> 36:00.920] And what it is, it's, you have the form.
[36:00.920 -> 36:05.000] So we actually have a Formula One chassis on this platform,
[36:05.400 -> 36:08.160] and around the platform is the screen,
[36:08.160 -> 36:09.500] kind of how you set it.
[36:09.500 -> 36:11.200] So you have the screen like this,
[36:11.200 -> 36:13.060] you have the chassis in the middle,
[36:13.060 -> 36:16.320] but our platform, instead of being fixed on the ground,
[36:16.320 -> 36:20.480] it's like suspended on these thing called actuators,
[36:20.480 -> 36:22.520] which are these massive beams,
[36:22.520 -> 36:25.300] and you're probably like 10, 15 meters up in the air.
[36:25.300 -> 36:27.640] So I have to climb a ladder to get in.
[36:27.640 -> 36:28.480] Oh, that's crazy.
[36:28.480 -> 36:31.620] Yeah, and when it starts up, it lifts.
[36:31.620 -> 36:33.840] And when you're going through the corners
[36:33.840 -> 36:35.000] or accelerating or braking,
[36:35.000 -> 36:37.960] the whole platform is either moving forward, back,
[36:37.960 -> 36:39.280] or left, right, or whatever,
[36:39.280 -> 36:42.760] to simulate some of the movements
[36:42.760 -> 36:44.040] that you would feel in the race car.
[36:44.040 -> 36:45.620] I can tell you, I didn't do that. I can tell you, I didn't do that.
[36:45.620 -> 36:48.520] I can tell you now I didn't do that.
[36:48.520 -> 36:51.860] How similar is it to a real car?
[36:51.860 -> 36:53.740] Cause you can compare both now, cause you've done it.
[36:53.740 -> 36:55.580] Like for a racing driver, it's a massive,
[36:55.580 -> 36:59.320] it's a very good tool to, if you don't know the track
[36:59.320 -> 37:01.140] and you need to learn the track,
[37:01.140 -> 37:02.860] if you do the simulator work,
[37:02.860 -> 37:07.520] like you arrive a hundred percent more prepared for the race weekend.
[37:08.960 -> 37:11.740] Now, if it's a track that you've gone many times
[37:11.740 -> 37:14.340] already before and you've raced already there
[37:14.340 -> 37:17.420] with a Formula One car, it's maybe not a massive gain
[37:17.420 -> 37:19.660] because it's still, it's similar,
[37:19.660 -> 37:23.140] but it's not the same as the Formula One car
[37:23.140 -> 37:24.480] or any race car.
[37:24.480 -> 37:28.160] What you can get from it is you get like your brake references, you get you know
[37:28.160 -> 37:34.480] the apex points and stuff, so kind of the tendencies of the track. But what's
[37:34.480 -> 37:37.520] really good for a driver, let's say even if you know the track and the car
[37:37.520 -> 37:41.960] well, is you use the simulator to go over the race weekend with your race
[37:41.960 -> 37:47.680] engineers before the weekend even starts. So you kind of do a simulation of the race weekend.
[37:47.680 -> 37:48.840] Over the pits?
[37:48.840 -> 37:51.560] Yeah, and like kind of the overall strategy
[37:51.560 -> 37:53.400] and what your run plan is and stuff
[37:53.400 -> 37:56.200] and what setup changes you might possibly do
[37:56.200 -> 37:57.320] in the racetrack.
[37:57.320 -> 37:59.560] You do that all before you even get to the track.
[37:59.560 -> 38:01.240] Every driver does that on the grid before a race?
[38:01.240 -> 38:02.640] Most drivers do.
[38:02.640 -> 38:04.400] And at least with other series as well,
[38:04.400 -> 38:05.840] you do that as a preparation
[38:06.120 -> 38:10.120] Which is good because like you you prepare you run through the race weekend before you get there
[38:10.120 -> 38:15.360] So when you get there you kind of feel you're in the the groove of things before you even get to FP1
[38:15.360 -> 38:19.460] So you would spend more time in the sim than Hulkenberg and Magnussen? Yeah
[38:19.920 -> 38:22.320] Would you? Definitely. I could be completely wrong here
[38:22.320 -> 38:26.460] But would there not be like a massive benefit in them spending a load more time in the sim
[38:26.460 -> 38:27.980] and then turning up on race weekend?
[38:27.980 -> 38:31.620] Yeah, I guess, but I think it's more driver dependent
[38:31.620 -> 38:34.740] because there's 23 race weekends in Formula One
[38:34.740 -> 38:36.500] and they're racing every race weekend.
[38:36.500 -> 38:37.320] Like.
[38:37.320 -> 38:38.160] True, they can't date.
[38:38.160 -> 38:41.180] They can't sometimes, they don't have enough time.
[38:41.180 -> 38:42.000] That's true.
[38:42.000 -> 38:42.840] But even for me this year
[38:42.840 -> 38:44.660] with all my other racing commitments and stuff,
[38:44.660 -> 38:46.120] like I've been traveling, it's 52 weeks of the year Enough time. That's true. But even for me this year with all my other racing commitments and stuff like
[38:49.520 -> 38:50.200] I've been traveling. It's 52 weeks of the year and
[38:57.880 -> 38:58.440] 36 of the weeks. I'm at a racetrack. Well, it's been like non-stop like the past five weeks. It was back-to-back racing
[39:03.560 -> 39:06.640] So you don't get sick of it? No, I don't I have the more the better honestly, because I love it. I may be at a certain point,
[39:09.680 -> 39:10.400] yeah, but at the moment it's hard to have a girlfriend because
[39:13.840 -> 39:20.480] you're traveling all the time to be honest. Do you have a girlfriend? No, I had one.
[39:28.000 -> 39:30.000] It happens, it's life. No, it was a long distance thing, it's very difficult. It happens, it's life.
[39:30.000 -> 39:34.000] No, it's difficult with the traveling and stuff, you know.
[39:34.000 -> 39:35.000] Yeah, I hear that.
[39:39.000 -> 39:40.000] So you're in WEC now.
[39:40.000 -> 39:41.000] Yeah.
[39:41.000 -> 39:46.320] You had a pretty bad crash, we know about about in Spa, up Eau Rouge.
[39:46.320 -> 39:48.960] We had JM Correa on the pod
[39:48.960 -> 39:51.140] and he had a terrible crash there as well.
[39:51.140 -> 39:54.280] So it's mad for us to see like how many people
[39:54.280 -> 39:55.300] crash in this area,
[39:55.300 -> 39:57.280] but what was that experience like for you?
[39:57.280 -> 39:59.300] And what are your thoughts on the track?
[39:59.300 -> 40:00.140] I mean, should it,
[40:00.140 -> 40:02.120] people think it should be banned or changed
[40:02.120 -> 40:03.140] or what do you think?
[40:03.140 -> 40:04.020] Yeah, it's crazy, man.
[40:04.020 -> 40:07.520] It's like the amount of accidents that happen in that corner.
[40:07.520 -> 40:16.320] It's impressive. It's probably one of the most dangerous corners I would say in like the F1 calendar or the European racing circuits.
[40:16.320 -> 40:27.000] And the interesting thing is I had an accident there, you know, I broke both my legs, but it still is my favorite racing track.
[40:27.000 -> 40:28.560] And that's the wild thing.
[40:28.560 -> 40:32.560] So for me, every time I go race at Spa, I still love it.
[40:32.560 -> 40:35.960] And whether they should change the track or the corner there, which they already tried
[40:35.960 -> 40:41.120] doing with moving the barriers back, but it's still not enough in my opinion.
[40:41.120 -> 40:45.800] Whether they should just change the layout or whatever, is something I think they should consider.
[40:45.800 -> 40:47.600] Because even without that corner,
[40:47.600 -> 40:49.560] the rest of the track is still amazing.
[40:49.560 -> 40:52.440] Like, if I were to get a car, or any race car,
[40:52.440 -> 40:54.440] and I would drive on a track,
[40:54.440 -> 40:56.080] after a certain point, it would get boring,
[40:56.080 -> 40:57.240] if there was no competition,
[40:57.240 -> 40:58.560] because I'm always, you know,
[40:58.560 -> 41:00.680] I really like the competition part of it.
[41:00.680 -> 41:02.800] But if there's one track that I could drive any car
[41:02.800 -> 41:05.000] and still have fun on my own is Spa.
[41:05.000 -> 41:09.000] Because the track is like everything just connects. It's like so enjoyable to drive.
[41:09.000 -> 41:15.000] But that corner at the time I was racing in the World Endurance Championship with an LMP1 car.
[41:15.000 -> 41:20.000] Which was a fast car. It had almost like a thousand horsepower and stuff.
[41:20.000 -> 41:25.600] And I was out for qualifying. And yeah, going through a rouge,
[41:25.600 -> 41:27.560] I was going up the corner
[41:27.560 -> 41:31.720] and I noticed that everything in the car shut off
[41:31.720 -> 41:33.600] and I lost power steering.
[41:33.600 -> 41:34.960] So you know how the road car,
[41:34.960 -> 41:36.640] when you turn, it's very light.
[41:36.640 -> 41:37.760] When the cars have power steering,
[41:37.760 -> 41:40.120] the steering wheel is very light.
[41:40.120 -> 41:41.720] When that system fails,
[41:41.720 -> 41:44.200] like the car, the steering wheel becomes
[41:44.200 -> 41:45.840] like a rock, basically.
[41:45.840 -> 41:48.200] So the whole system shut off.
[41:48.200 -> 41:49.040] Wow.
[41:49.040 -> 41:49.860] And I had-
[41:49.860 -> 41:50.760] So it wasn't even your fault, man.
[41:50.760 -> 41:52.500] No, so the car just shut off.
[41:52.500 -> 41:55.760] They had an electrical issue and I had no steering.
[41:55.760 -> 41:57.440] So I went straight in the wall
[41:57.440 -> 42:00.860] and I was never worried about getting in crashes.
[42:00.860 -> 42:02.760] And when you see a crash coming,
[42:02.760 -> 42:06.080] I never actually got scared or worried about it.
[42:06.080 -> 42:07.760] But this is the first time that like,
[42:07.760 -> 42:09.900] before I hit the wall, like in my head,
[42:09.900 -> 42:12.800] I was like, fuck dude, this is gonna be big.
[42:12.800 -> 42:16.360] And I remember hitting the wall and like I kind of,
[42:17.680 -> 42:20.840] after a few seconds, I kind of came back to life
[42:20.840 -> 42:24.040] or whatever, I remember the door of the car opened
[42:24.040 -> 42:26.680] because a prototype car, so it's a closed cockpit.
[42:26.680 -> 42:28.360] The door of the car opened and I was like,
[42:28.360 -> 42:29.520] all right, I'm gonna climb out of the car.
[42:29.520 -> 42:32.080] So I went to unbuckle, and when I went to climb out,
[42:32.080 -> 42:35.800] I was like, Jesus, my legs are like hurting.
[42:35.800 -> 42:38.960] When I looked down, my legs were like,
[42:38.960 -> 42:43.960] my left leg was like this, with the bone out of the suit.
[42:44.640 -> 42:46.120] And my right ankle was like, my foot was like this, with the bone out of the suit. And my right
[42:46.120 -> 42:50.680] ankle was like my foot was like here. So I was when I looked
[42:50.680 -> 42:54.400] down, like all my legs were like in a Z. Basically, because what
[42:54.400 -> 42:57.120] happened is when I hit the wall, the front left tire came into
[42:57.120 -> 43:02.920] the cockpit, and just smashed my legs. And that's when the pain
[43:02.920 -> 43:05.680] started coming in. I think it's something to do with adrenaline
[43:05.680 -> 43:07.820] where initially you don't really realize it.
[43:07.820 -> 43:09.600] I think I was in like a little bit of a shock
[43:09.600 -> 43:11.720] so when I went to climb out I had no issue.
[43:11.720 -> 43:14.440] Then when I looked down I was like oh fuck
[43:14.440 -> 43:17.480] because I saw my legs, it was a compound fracture
[43:17.480 -> 43:21.860] so the bones pierced the skin and the suit and everything.
[43:21.860 -> 43:26.080] So I remember the marshals coming in and I was like,
[43:26.080 -> 43:27.160] dude, my legs, my legs.
[43:27.160 -> 43:29.160] And they were telling me to calm down.
[43:29.160 -> 43:32.460] It took them 30 minutes to get me out of the car.
[43:32.460 -> 43:35.160] Cause it was like the chassis was all kind of bent in.
[43:35.160 -> 43:37.840] And I remember at the time, like the marshal was like,
[43:37.840 -> 43:38.680] just hold my hand.
[43:38.680 -> 43:39.880] And I was like holding his hand.
[43:39.880 -> 43:43.540] And over time, like, I remember my strength going away.
[43:43.540 -> 43:51.680] Cause like initially like you're grabbing on strong and then towards the end you're just touching the guy's hand or whatever.
[43:51.680 -> 43:57.200] But it was just because I was in so much pain and I was awake throughout the whole time.
[43:57.200 -> 44:03.360] And I remember two instances where instead of blacking out, my vision got all white.
[44:03.360 -> 44:04.940] It was really weird.
[44:04.940 -> 44:06.440] Everything started whitening out. It got completely white. And like my vision got all white. It was really weird, like everything started whiting out,
[44:06.440 -> 44:09.800] it got completely white, and then my vision would come back.
[44:09.800 -> 44:10.960] And it happened twice.
[44:10.960 -> 44:11.800] That's scary.
[44:11.800 -> 44:12.640] Yeah, it was weird.
[44:12.640 -> 44:14.880] Like I remember telling them, I was like,
[44:14.880 -> 44:16.560] listen, I can't see, I can't see.
[44:16.560 -> 44:18.920] But it wasn't like a blackout, it was like all white.
[44:18.920 -> 44:19.760] Wow.
[44:19.760 -> 44:21.080] I think it must be something with adrenaline
[44:21.080 -> 44:22.580] or shock with the pain.
[44:23.480 -> 44:27.120] But they finally got the car ready to get me out.
[44:27.120 -> 44:30.400] And I remember that as soon as they lifted me,
[44:30.400 -> 44:31.620] it was like a massive pain.
[44:31.620 -> 44:33.600] And then I was like, I blacked out.
[44:33.600 -> 44:38.600] And then I woke up in the hospital and they were on the,
[44:39.700 -> 44:40.540] what is it?
[44:40.540 -> 44:41.360] The stroller bed or whatever.
[44:41.360 -> 44:42.840] The stretcher.
[44:42.840 -> 44:44.040] And I remember it was like,
[44:44.040 -> 44:47.080] you know those movies where the guy, the actor wakes up
[44:47.080 -> 44:49.580] and he sees the faces all blurry,
[44:49.580 -> 44:52.080] the lights and the people talking.
[44:52.080 -> 44:55.500] Man, it was like exactly the same.
[44:55.500 -> 44:57.960] It was like, you hear the voices kind of like
[44:57.960 -> 44:59.880] in another room, but they're right there.
[44:59.880 -> 45:01.840] Everything's blurry and you see the lights.
[45:01.840 -> 45:02.840] Oh my God, that's so good.
[45:02.840 -> 45:04.120] So it was like that.
[45:04.120 -> 45:08.520] And yeah, basically they had to do surgery that night
[45:08.520 -> 45:12.040] there in Belgium because when the bones are exposed
[45:12.040 -> 45:15.240] and stuff, if you take too long, it risks infection.
[45:15.240 -> 45:16.520] Were you losing a lot of blood?
[45:16.520 -> 45:19.680] Yeah, I was losing blood, but it was controllable.
[45:20.560 -> 45:22.360] But basically they had to do surgery that night
[45:22.360 -> 45:24.240] because if you leave it open, it's like,
[45:24.240 -> 45:26.760] you can risk infection and then it's a problem.
[45:26.760 -> 45:28.080] So then they put a, yeah,
[45:28.080 -> 45:30.080] I still have the rod on this leg
[45:30.080 -> 45:32.040] with two screws here and here.
[45:32.040 -> 45:33.300] And then on my right ankle,
[45:33.300 -> 45:36.000] they had to reconstruct it, which is more difficult.
[45:36.920 -> 45:38.440] So they did it with like,
[45:38.440 -> 45:41.460] there's some plates and seven screws.
[45:41.460 -> 45:44.040] And yeah, but then from there,
[45:44.040 -> 45:46.280] the guy had told me I was only going to be
[45:46.280 -> 45:52.160] back racing in a year, the surgeon told me, and I was racing IndyCar at the time, I had
[45:52.160 -> 45:56.760] some opportunities in IndyCar. And actually I still hadn't signed with Haas, I was going
[45:56.760 -> 46:01.240] to do a test for them in July and the accident was in May and obviously I couldn't do the
[46:01.240 -> 46:09.120] test but I had IndyCar races to do and I actually flew back to the States, to Indianapolis,
[46:09.360 -> 46:14.360] because Indianapolis have the best rehab doctors for racing.
[46:14.520 -> 46:16.640] And I lived in the motor home,
[46:16.640 -> 46:19.160] inside the Indianapolis Motor Speedway with my mom,
[46:19.160 -> 46:21.040] because they have a medical center there.
[46:21.040 -> 46:25.000] And I stayed there for two months in the motor home
[46:25.860 -> 46:28.060] and doing rehab and physical therapy every day
[46:28.060 -> 46:30.760] there in the track with all the doctors and stuff.
[46:30.760 -> 46:33.440] And two and a half months after my accident,
[46:33.440 -> 46:36.160] I went back racing IndyCar.
[46:36.160 -> 46:39.640] My bone was still broken, but I had this contract
[46:39.640 -> 46:42.120] in IndyCar and I didn't want to give up the races.
[46:42.120 -> 46:42.960] So.
[46:42.960 -> 46:45.980] Bro, they put the doctor there.
[46:45.980 -> 46:47.120] His name is Dr. Tremel.
[46:47.120 -> 46:49.280] He's like a legendary IndyCar doctor.
[46:49.280 -> 46:52.940] He took care of Nelson Piquet and like a bunch of drivers.
[46:52.940 -> 46:56.520] And we made this carbon fiber brace for my leg
[46:56.520 -> 46:57.680] to protect my left leg.
[46:57.680 -> 46:58.520] Wow.
[46:58.520 -> 47:01.080] And when I would go do my race,
[47:01.080 -> 47:02.560] because I was still in under pain
[47:02.560 -> 47:04.080] because the bone wasn't healed,
[47:04.080 -> 47:08.560] they would give me these pain shot me these pain shots, pain killers.
[47:08.560 -> 47:12.200] It's called Toradol, just to kind of help my leg and numb it.
[47:12.200 -> 47:14.520] And I did four IndyCar races, yeah,
[47:14.520 -> 47:16.240] two and a half months after my accident.
[47:16.240 -> 47:19.080] Had my best IndyCar finishes in the top 10.
[47:19.080 -> 47:20.600] I couldn't even brake properly.
[47:20.600 -> 47:21.680] I was gonna say, how did you brake?
[47:21.680 -> 47:22.720] You should have, that would have really hurt.
[47:22.720 -> 47:24.280] Yeah, no, it was hurting.
[47:24.280 -> 47:28.160] Honestly, it was hurting. I was braking at like 70% of the pressure I should have
[47:28.640 -> 47:32.440] Maybe it was a bit too soon, but doing well in IndyCar it
[47:33.120 -> 47:37.080] in those races it uh, I then got the chance to
[47:37.880 -> 47:41.760] To do the test with has at the end of that year. So supposed to be in July
[47:41.760 -> 47:49.360] I had my accident and I was always keeping Gunther up to date and stuff and I said, listen I'm back in IndyCar now, this is
[47:49.360 -> 47:52.600] the proof, like I've finished in the top 10 and stuff and like I'm doing well and
[47:52.600 -> 47:56.560] he's like, great let's put you in the car then at the end of the season. So I think
[47:56.560 -> 47:59.240] if I wouldn't have done those races I wouldn't have gotten the chance with Haas
[47:59.240 -> 48:04.640] and I didn't tell Gunther still, by the time I did the test in Abu Dhabi at
[48:04.640 -> 48:07.000] the end of the year my leg still wasn't healed. I didn't tell Gunt still, by the time I did the test in Abu Dhabi at the end of the year, my leg still wasn't healed.
[48:07.000 -> 48:16.000] I didn't want to tell him that because the testing in Formula 1 is so valuable, you don't want to risk a guy that's not ready to do it and put him in the car and waste those miles.
[48:16.000 -> 48:30.560] So I didn't tell him at the time and when I did my seat fit and stuff with the F1 car, I wasn't wearing the brace or anything, so I was just doing it normal. But then the day of the test, I put the brace under my suit and hoping that nobody would
[48:30.560 -> 48:34.160] notice, and I got in the car and I drove.
[48:34.160 -> 48:37.240] And the only time I got out of the car was to go eat lunch at half day.
[48:37.240 -> 48:38.560] And no one knew?
[48:38.560 -> 48:39.760] Nobody knew because I put it under the suit.
[48:39.760 -> 48:44.400] So if you look at the photos of me from that first test in 2018, if you look at my left
[48:44.400 -> 48:46.040] leg, there's like this bulky thing.
[48:46.040 -> 48:47.600] And that's because I-
[48:47.600 -> 48:48.440] I like your style, mate.
[48:48.440 -> 48:49.280] I like your style.
[48:49.280 -> 48:51.320] I'm not going to miss a Formula One test
[48:51.320 -> 48:52.840] because he might think I'm not ready.
[48:52.840 -> 48:53.920] So I wasn't going to tell them
[48:53.920 -> 48:55.600] that my leg wasn't healed yet.
[48:55.600 -> 48:56.440] That's commitment.
[48:56.440 -> 48:58.880] So then I did it and I still haven't,
[48:58.880 -> 49:01.320] I never got the subject back with him,
[49:01.320 -> 49:04.200] but I never actually told him that I was still racing
[49:04.200 -> 49:05.600] with the brakes. yeah, one day.
[49:05.600 -> 49:07.800] I'll send him the video.
[49:07.800 -> 49:09.360] But yeah, sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
[49:09.360 -> 49:10.200] You gotta do what you gotta do.
[49:10.200 -> 49:11.200] I respect that a lot.
[49:11.200 -> 49:13.040] It worked out as the right thing to do though.
[49:13.040 -> 49:13.920] No, it worked out,
[49:13.920 -> 49:16.320] because if I would have waited till the end of the year,
[49:16.320 -> 49:18.360] I would have lost the opportunity, an Indy car,
[49:18.360 -> 49:20.640] and then the Haas Formula One thing
[49:20.640 -> 49:21.680] would have been then for the next,
[49:21.680 -> 49:23.520] then you never know what would have happened.
[49:23.520 -> 49:24.360] So.
[49:24.360 -> 49:28.000] Well, yeah, mate, thank you very much for sharing us that story I think it's
[49:28.000 -> 49:32.560] now time we time get you on the fast lap sounds good so you're gonna have a
[49:32.560 -> 49:36.560] couple of practice laps okay then you'll set three laps and relax the best time
[49:36.560 -> 49:40.720] cool then we'll add you to the board so sounds good let's do you think you can
[49:40.720 -> 49:46.000] be Brad oh man you gotta you gotta believe it to make it happen, right? He's quick, bro. He is quick.
[49:46.000 -> 49:48.000] Let's hit it. Let's do it.
[49:48.000 -> 49:50.000] So Pietro's on the sim. He did just make a comment.
[49:50.000 -> 49:52.000] He said, dude, are these pedals meant to be like that?
[49:52.000 -> 49:54.000] I said, yep. They're flying, man.
[49:54.000 -> 49:56.000] That's the gang. They're flying, look at that.
[49:56.000 -> 49:58.000] That's the Pitstop gang.
[49:58.000 -> 50:00.000] Need some improvisation over here.
[50:00.000 -> 50:02.000] That's what you get when you come on Pitstop.
[50:02.000 -> 50:04.000] We know he's friends with Brad Benavidez.
[50:04.000 -> 50:07.040] Are they gonna be mates after he spanks him?
[50:07.040 -> 50:08.040] Let's see.
[50:08.040 -> 50:10.520] Trying to get some beef going, bro.
[50:10.520 -> 50:11.840] That's what we need.
[50:11.840 -> 50:12.840] That's how it starts.
[50:12.840 -> 50:15.000] Yeah, you guys can scrap it out in the car park later.
[50:15.000 -> 50:18.440] It's quite interesting watching these pros do it right, because when we do it, we've
[50:18.440 -> 50:20.000] got full traction on you.
[50:20.000 -> 50:23.120] You can just second gear, round the corner, fly out.
[50:23.120 -> 50:26.500] You ain't going to spin out, but these guys are driving like, realistically.
[50:26.500 -> 50:27.500] It's weird.
[50:27.500 -> 50:29.000] Oh, this might be quite a good lap.
[50:29.500 -> 50:31.500] I got tracked in this one this summer.
[50:31.500 -> 50:34.500] That's alright, don't worry about it, you should have seen Brad Benavidez.
[50:37.500 -> 50:38.500] Brad's on the grass!
[50:38.500 -> 50:40.500] Brad went on the grass!
[50:40.500 -> 50:44.500] Are you changing gears instinctively, or do you have to think about it?
[50:44.500 -> 50:45.080] Instinctively. That's crazy. You get used to it, you know. Are you changing gears instinctively or do you have to think about it?
[50:45.080 -> 50:46.080] Instinctively.
[50:46.080 -> 50:47.080] That's crazy.
[50:47.080 -> 50:48.080] You get used to it, you know.
[50:48.080 -> 50:51.040] Could we have someone close to the top of the leaderboard here?
[50:51.040 -> 50:52.040] Have a look at that leaderboard.
[50:52.040 -> 50:53.040] What do you think, Pabs?
[50:53.040 -> 50:56.880] I think it's looking pretty damn good, but we'll see.
[50:56.880 -> 51:00.120] Especially considering Matt Gallagher uses a sim every day.
[51:00.120 -> 51:03.120] Oh my God, you saw that, didn't you?
[51:03.120 -> 51:07.000] He's just seen the screen and I've just seen the screen.
[51:07.000 -> 51:12.000] What did it say? Is it P1? Okay, sit down.
[51:12.000 -> 51:17.000] Okay, Pietro. How we doing?
[51:17.000 -> 51:21.000] You've definitely seen it. How do you think you did?
[51:21.000 -> 51:25.600] I don't know, honestly, I think I did pretty decent.
[51:25.600 -> 51:30.280] I will say all three laps you did were very good.
[51:30.280 -> 51:31.120] Okay.
[51:31.120 -> 51:34.280] All very good, they were all so close.
[51:34.280 -> 51:36.120] So where would you be happy with?
[51:37.480 -> 51:41.480] Honestly, I don't know, anywhere in the top three.
[51:41.480 -> 51:42.840] Well, first, obviously, but.
[51:42.840 -> 51:45.280] Okay, this is a big moment. in the top three well first obviously but
[51:48.880 -> 51:57.680] okay this is a big moment
[52:01.440 -> 52:09.960] okay okay which does bring us near the top yeah it's near the top that's top four near the top. Yeah, it's near the top. That's top four. That's top four. And a 105, 486 without a boom.
[52:09.960 -> 52:10.460] 480, bro.
[52:10.460 -> 52:13.440] Oh my god!
[52:13.440 -> 52:13.920] There you go.
[52:13.920 -> 52:14.420] There you go.
[52:14.420 -> 52:16.400] That's top four!
[52:16.400 -> 52:16.900] Oh shit.
[52:16.900 -> 52:19.360] That's top four!
[52:19.360 -> 52:20.340] All right, boy.
[52:20.340 -> 52:21.320] Woo!
[52:21.320 -> 52:23.280] That's unbelievable!
[52:23.280 -> 52:29.560] Dude, you're couch and computer. Wow, OK. boy every time I set one of these
[52:29.560 -> 52:46.000] things up Look at the wall! It was worth it! It was worth it bro, it was worth it.
[52:46.000 -> 52:48.000] That is mega, that is absolutely mega.
[52:48.000 -> 52:50.000] Legends, thank you man.
[52:50.000 -> 52:52.000] Every single lap was in the 105s.
[52:52.000 -> 52:54.000] Every single one of your laps won.
[52:54.000 -> 52:56.000] All three of the laps were quicker than Brad's.
[52:56.000 -> 52:58.000] That's crazy.
[52:58.000 -> 53:00.000] That is absolutely insane.
[53:00.000 -> 53:02.000] It was my, I got used to the pedals quick, you know, that's why.
[53:02.000 -> 53:04.000] Well there we have it.
[53:04.000 -> 53:07.040] Someone new at the top of the pistol
[53:07.680 -> 53:14.420] That looks unbelievable the original record hold Oscar was first for a good eight months really and he was the first
[53:14.420 -> 53:19.200] He was the first guest on so he only had us to be Wow and he just went in straightaway did it
[53:19.200 -> 53:23.260] I didn't really give me a lot of these guys have like quite a few practice laps. Really you only had a few
[53:24.400 -> 53:25.240] I just can't believe all three of the laps beat Brad A lot of these guys have like quite a few practice laps. Really? You only had a few. Yeah, you did have a lot left.
[53:25.240 -> 53:27.760] I just can't believe all three of the laps beat Brad.
[53:27.760 -> 53:28.760] That is insane.
[53:28.760 -> 53:29.760] Bonkers, mate.
[53:29.760 -> 53:30.760] That's bonkers.
[53:30.760 -> 53:31.760] That's crazy.
[53:31.760 -> 53:32.760] Do you think someone could easily beat you?
[53:32.760 -> 53:33.760] They were definitely good laps.
[53:33.760 -> 53:34.760] They were good laps.
[53:34.760 -> 53:35.760] Yeah, they were good laps.
[53:35.760 -> 53:36.760] So, I don't know.
[53:36.760 -> 53:38.760] I noticed you race with glasses on, bro.
[53:38.760 -> 53:39.760] I was going to say.
[53:39.760 -> 53:40.760] Yeah, yeah.
[53:40.760 -> 53:41.760] So, I race with glasses.
[53:41.760 -> 53:43.000] So, in the race car, I use glasses as well.
[53:43.000 -> 53:44.000] Do you?
[53:44.000 -> 53:46.400] Under the helmet? I used to wear wear contacts before but they're too difficult.
[53:46.400 -> 53:49.640] With endurance racing, because you're getting out of the car and getting back in, if I need
[53:49.640 -> 53:54.540] to change my contacts with dirty hands, I change to glasses.
[53:54.540 -> 53:55.960] So you wear them underneath the helmet?
[53:55.960 -> 53:56.960] Yeah.
[53:56.960 -> 53:57.960] Wow, that's mad.
[53:57.960 -> 53:58.960] I know.
[53:58.960 -> 53:59.960] That's cool though.
[53:59.960 -> 54:02.520] Yeah, I've always worn it.
[54:02.520 -> 54:06.000] The only time it gets difficult is if it gets foggy and stuff in the pit lane
[54:06.000 -> 54:08.600] But once you go out, like the wind starts blowing, it's alright
[54:08.600 -> 54:10.000] You can still see far enough ahead
[54:10.000 -> 54:10.500] Yeah
[54:10.500 -> 54:12.000] That's handy there
[54:12.000 -> 54:15.500] For today's episode, we asked our listeners to send in a couple of questions
[54:15.500 -> 54:19.000] So we'll just finish with some questions from our listeners
[54:19.000 -> 54:22.500] Jamie Fellon has said, what's the scariest moment you've ever had in your career?
[54:22.500 -> 54:26.360] So, yeah, I would say the scariest moment was from my crash in 2018,
[54:26.360 -> 54:30.320] just being inside the car and seeing my legs all twisted and stuff.
[54:30.320 -> 54:31.200] Yeah, that's pretty scary.
[54:31.200 -> 54:35.040] Blood and bone and yeah, that was for sure the scariest moment.
[54:35.040 -> 54:35.400] What about-
[54:35.400 -> 54:36.560] No, actually no.
[54:36.560 -> 54:36.920] Oh?
[54:36.920 -> 54:41.080] There's another, the other scariest moment was when I was out of the race car
[54:41.080 -> 54:43.360] and I was still there as a Haas Reserve driver.
[54:43.360 -> 54:50.000] It was in Saudi Arabia, My brother was racing Formula 2 and he had his worst accident of his life and
[54:50.000 -> 54:53.600] it happened right in front of me. It was on the start, tailpoint share stalled and
[54:53.600 -> 54:59.560] Enzo hit him full-on and I was there on the pit wall so I was able to see
[54:59.560 -> 55:04.240] everything and I only saw him getting in the ambulance so I didn't know what
[55:04.240 -> 55:05.200] state he was in,
[55:05.200 -> 55:08.560] but his car, like the pedals were all smashed,
[55:08.560 -> 55:10.120] like all the way up to the knees.
[55:10.120 -> 55:13.380] So I said, dude, this guy, his legs are cooked.
[55:13.380 -> 55:15.240] Like similar to what happened to Juan,
[55:15.240 -> 55:18.920] like I was like, I think his legs are like mangled.
[55:18.920 -> 55:20.360] So that was the scariest moment,
[55:20.360 -> 55:21.680] cause I hadn't seen him yet.
[55:21.680 -> 55:27.280] And luckily he only shattered, he only broke his heel. So heel so that was alright but that was a scare because it wasn't
[55:27.280 -> 55:31.520] me you know if it's me but if it's my brother it was like I have no control of
[55:31.520 -> 55:36.200] anything so. Matilde Beard has said what is your first thought after a bad race?
[55:36.200 -> 55:40.480] Ah you're just pissed and disappointed the Monday and Tuesday after a bad race
[55:40.480 -> 55:46.800] is always terrible and then by Wednesday you're okay by Thursday, you're on to the next one.
[55:46.800 -> 55:48.080] Yeah, you got to move on pretty quick
[55:48.080 -> 55:49.000] from it really, haven't you?
[55:49.000 -> 55:50.440] Yeah, you got to move on fast, yeah.
[55:50.440 -> 55:52.640] I guess it would also depend on why it was a bad race.
[55:52.640 -> 55:54.840] Like if it was your fault, if it wasn't your fault.
[55:54.840 -> 55:56.060] Yeah, if it was my fault
[55:56.060 -> 55:57.520] and it was clear where I can improve,
[55:57.520 -> 56:00.080] then sometimes it's like a bit painful,
[56:00.080 -> 56:02.260] but like, you know that it can be better.
[56:03.200 -> 56:04.840] If it was something that was out of your control
[56:04.840 -> 56:06.840] that took away like a podium or a win, then it's like, I think it can be better. If it was something that was out of your control that took away a podium or a win,
[56:06.840 -> 56:09.600] then it's like, I think it hurts even more.
[56:09.600 -> 56:11.840] Mofadea, I can't announce that,
[56:11.840 -> 56:13.400] I have no idea how that says.
[56:13.400 -> 56:14.840] They say, what does an average day look like
[56:14.840 -> 56:16.360] when you're helping the team in the factory?
[56:16.360 -> 56:17.760] So if you're turning up at the factory,
[56:17.760 -> 56:19.360] you said you get there at 9 a.m.
[56:19.360 -> 56:20.200] and you're on the sim making the game.
[56:20.200 -> 56:22.200] Yeah, usually if I'm ever at the factory,
[56:23.600 -> 56:25.480] because the simulator we use, it's in Ferrari, so we go to the Ferrari factory. So if I'm ever factory, it's or cause the simulator we use it's in Ferrari.
[56:25.480 -> 56:27.080] So we go to the Ferrari factory.
[56:27.080 -> 56:29.200] So if I'm ever there, it's to use a simulator.
[56:29.200 -> 56:30.880] And it's like, you're from nine to five,
[56:30.880 -> 56:34.040] nine to six on the sim, stop for lunch.
[56:34.040 -> 56:39.040] And there, dude, there's the food at the Ferrari factory
[56:39.080 -> 56:40.200] is not good.
[56:40.200 -> 56:41.840] My honesty and I was thinking Italy,
[56:41.840 -> 56:43.920] like it would be great, but the food there
[56:43.920 -> 56:45.120] at for whatever reason the
[56:45.200 -> 56:49.040] In the factory there. It is not as boiling the bag pastas or bro
[56:49.040 -> 56:56.960] It's like very plain it's very plain and there's really good restaurants around there. Yeah, and the food there is not so it's not very motivating but
[56:57.520 -> 57:03.640] Sorry, Tracy. MN has said what's your favorite country to race in but you said you love spa. Would you say that's so
[57:04.160 -> 57:07.020] Spa is a racetrack, and then as a,
[57:07.020 -> 57:09.680] like, let's say, as the town and stuff,
[57:09.680 -> 57:12.020] I really like Austin, Texas.
[57:12.020 -> 57:13.080] It's a fun, it's a fun town.
[57:13.080 -> 57:13.920] We're desperate to go out there for that.
[57:13.920 -> 57:14.760] Yeah, it's really fun.
[57:14.760 -> 57:16.520] We've got that coming up in the next month, so.
[57:16.520 -> 57:17.960] Yeah, yeah, it's a really fun city.
[57:17.960 -> 57:18.800] I'd love to go out there,
[57:18.800 -> 57:20.800] get on the back of one of them bull things.
[57:20.800 -> 57:22.240] Yeah, the barbecue there too.
[57:22.240 -> 57:24.280] That's what I was gonna say, bro, I just want the barbecue.
[57:24.280 -> 57:25.600] Well, there's a place called Terry Black's
[57:25.600 -> 57:27.640] barbecue I go there every year it's in
[57:27.640 -> 57:30.680] the the city center amazing fuck the
[57:30.680 -> 57:32.760] race and I'm just going to the brisket
[57:32.760 -> 57:35.320] I'm gonna read the risk is a cool
[57:35.320 -> 57:37.520] answer is that yeah I was joking by the
[57:37.520 -> 57:40.000] way oh six friends or anyone has said do
[57:40.000 -> 57:41.560] you ever talk to yourself when you're
[57:41.560 -> 57:43.200] driving the car I think when you're
[57:43.200 -> 57:45.320] pissed off yeah do you like you start kind of cussing at yourself like you're driving the car? I think when you're pissed off, yeah. Do you?
[57:45.320 -> 57:47.240] Like you start kind of cussing at yourself.
[57:47.240 -> 57:49.280] Like you're kind of like, dude, what the fuck are you doing?
[57:49.280 -> 57:51.960] Like stuff like that, you know, like in your head.
[57:53.700 -> 57:55.960] But yeah, I think the worst is sometimes
[57:55.960 -> 57:57.160] like if you're pissed at something
[57:57.160 -> 57:58.780] and then back soon you have the radio open
[57:58.780 -> 58:00.840] because sometimes the radio is a latch on button
[58:00.840 -> 58:01.760] so you don't have to hold it.
[58:01.760 -> 58:03.880] You click it and it latches open.
[58:03.880 -> 58:07.960] Sometimes you forget and you start saying some shit and the team is here
[58:07.960 -> 58:09.960] Gunther's a dick man!
[58:09.960 -> 58:11.960] Gunther's a dick!
[58:11.960 -> 58:17.960] Final question from Zoe Devalenca has said favorite f1 driver from your childhood?
[58:17.960 -> 58:26.800] my favorite f1 driver from my childhood, I would say Fernando Alonso. That's his favorite as well.
[58:26.800 -> 58:27.680] Yeah.
[58:27.680 -> 58:28.520] The king.
[58:28.520 -> 58:29.360] Overall, bro.
[58:29.360 -> 58:31.560] The guy needs more than two championships.
[58:31.560 -> 58:32.400] Yeah, he does.
[58:32.400 -> 58:33.220] I know he had it.
[58:33.220 -> 58:34.060] He deserves more, yeah.
[58:34.060 -> 58:35.240] Yeah, he is the king.
[58:35.240 -> 58:36.720] Oh, Pietro, mate.
[58:36.720 -> 58:38.320] Thank you so much for coming in today.
[58:38.320 -> 58:39.300] It's been an honor.
[58:39.300 -> 58:40.960] I can't believe we got your name on the board.
[58:40.960 -> 58:43.640] I can't believe you fucking topped it.
[58:43.640 -> 58:44.480] It's like, wow.
[58:44.480 -> 58:46.000] This is gonna be a big clean up job.
[58:46.000 -> 58:47.000] Yeah, this is going to be you.
[58:47.000 -> 58:48.000] Yeah, good luck with that guys.
[58:48.000 -> 58:50.000] Do you know what happened last time he done this?
[58:50.000 -> 58:52.000] He kind of ran the hoove around here and it was still everywhere.
[58:52.000 -> 58:53.000] For about a month.
[58:53.000 -> 58:54.000] Yeah.
[58:54.000 -> 58:55.000] Jesus bro.
[58:55.000 -> 58:57.000] Yeah, but anyways, honestly guys, thanks so much for having me.
[58:57.000 -> 58:58.000] It was very fun.
[58:58.000 -> 59:00.000] Next time I'll come on with Enzo.
[59:00.000 -> 59:01.000] Yeah, for sure.
[59:01.000 -> 59:02.000] See if he can be my time.
[59:02.000 -> 59:03.000] We'll go karting too.
[59:03.000 -> 59:04.000] We'll do the karting.
[59:04.000 -> 59:08.000] So thank you very much. And congrats on everything you guys are achieving as well.
[59:08.000 -> 59:10.280] It's really cool to see your channel grow so much.
[59:10.280 -> 59:11.120] So it's awesome.
[59:11.120 -> 59:12.120] Thank you so much, bro, it means a lot.
[59:12.120 -> 59:12.440] Thanks, man.
[59:12.440 -> 59:13.200] I appreciate it.
[59:13.200 -> 59:14.120] Cheers, mate.
[59:14.120 -> 59:15.160] Thanks for watching.
[59:15.160 -> 59:16.040] Goodbye.
[59:16.040 -> 59:17.760] Yes, bro.
[59:17.760 -> 59:18.760] Thank you so much.
[59:18.760 -> 59:19.760] A class episode.
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