Canadian GP 2023 F1 race review

Spanners and Trumpets are joined by F1 media breakout star Antonia Rankin and F1 Tik Tok titan Cristina Lee Mace as they dodge all the wildlife at the Canadian Grand Prix. From Alonso’s attempt to Hamilton’s hopes, from the wonders of Williams to the inevitable Safety Car shuffle, no pass on the finish line for points goes unbroadcast in this, the latest episode of Missed Apex Podcast. 

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**Summary of the Canadian Grand Prix Race Review Podcast**

The Missed Apex podcast crew, joined by F1 media breakout star Antonia Rankin and F1 Tik Tok titan Cristina Lee Mace, dissect the Canadian Grand Prix.

**Key Points:**

* Despite the lack of a clear frontrunner, the race provided some exciting moments and strategic battles.
* Aston Martin showed promising signs with their upgrades, with Fernando Alonso expressing confidence in their ability to challenge Red Bull.
* The midfield battle intensified, with Mercedes and Aston Martin emerging as potential contenders for second place in the championship.
* George Russell's mistake cost him a podium finish, highlighting the pressure he faces as Lewis Hamilton's teammate.
* Sergio Perez's struggles continued, with a poor qualifying session and an inability to make up positions during the race.
* Ferrari's strategic blunders once again hindered their drivers, with Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz expressing frustration with the team's decision-making.
* The Canadian Grand Prix highlighted the need for better communication and trust between drivers and pit walls, particularly at Ferrari.
* Lance Stroll's performance in Canada was a positive sign, but he needs to show more consistency to match his teammate Fernando Alonso.
* The different characteristics of each circuit will play a role in determining the competitiveness of the various teams throughout the season.
* The battle between Alonso and Hamilton for second place in the championship is heating up, with both drivers showing strong pace and determination.

**Overall Message:**

The Canadian Grand Prix provided some exciting racing and strategic battles, but also highlighted the ongoing issues faced by Ferrari and the pressure on George Russell as Lewis Hamilton's teammate. The midfield battle is intensifying, and the different characteristics of upcoming circuits will play a role in determining the competitiveness of the various teams. # Missed Apex Podcast Transcript Summary

**Canada Grand Prix Recap**

- Fernando Alonso's attempt to pass Lewis Hamilton resulted in a safety car, highlighting the strategic importance of fuel management and potential fuel pump issues.
- Hulkenberg's penalty for a track limits infringement disrupted Mercedes' strategy and prevented them from taking advantage of the safety car restart.
- Alonso's pursuit of race leader Max Verstappen was hindered by tire temperature issues and a rear brake problem, leading to cautious driving and missed opportunities.

**Unsafe Pit Release Controversy**

- Lewis Hamilton's pit release ahead of Alonso sparked debate regarding the definition of an unsafe release in Formula One.
- The stewards deemed the release safe, emphasizing the subjective nature of the regulations and the reliance on stewards' judgment in such situations.
- The incident highlighted the need for clearer guidelines and consistent enforcement of pit lane safety regulations.

**George Russell's Sophomore Struggles**

- Russell's crash during the race was seen as a setback in his development as a top-tier driver, raising questions about his ability to consistently perform at the highest level.
- His struggles were attributed to a combination of factors, including pressure to match Lewis Hamilton's pace, lack of self-critical analysis, and the challenge of adapting to a new team and car.
- Russell's comments about other drivers' spatial awareness were seen as ironic given his own recent incidents.

**Max Verstappen's Dominant Performance**

- Verstappen's controlled and efficient race showcased his ability to manage tire issues and maintain a comfortable lead, extending his championship advantage.
- His performance highlighted the strength of the Red Bull car and his status as a top contender for the world championship.

**Sergio Perez's Ongoing Struggles**

- Perez's disappointing qualifying and race performances raised concerns about his form and consistency as a teammate to Verstappen.
- His struggles were attributed to a combination of factors, including setup issues, lack of confidence, and potential changes in his approach or routine.
- The team's analytical approach to problem-solving was questioned, as Perez's issues persisted despite the team's reputation for self-criticism and problem-solving. **Thing of the Weekend:**

* Antonia Rankin: Lando Norris' fighting spirit until the last lap.
* Christina Lee Mace: George Russell's double overtake on De Vries and Magnussen.
* Matt Trumpets: The strategic decisions made during the safety car period.

**Bad Thing of the Weekend:**

* Antonia Rankin: Nick De Vries and Kevin Magnussen's collision.
* Christina Lee Mace: McLaren's unsportsmanlike behavior during the safety car period.
* Matt Trumpets: Sergio Perez's qualifying performance.

**Controversial Moments:**

* The stewards' decision to penalize Norris for impeding Piastri during the safety car period.
* The stewards' decision not to penalize Norris for backing up the field during the safety car period.
* The stewards' decision to penalize Perez for impeding Albon during qualifying.

**Insights and Perspectives:**

* Sergio Perez is a reliable and capable driver, but he is not a title contender.
* McLaren's unsportsmanlike behavior during the safety car period was a strategic move to gain an advantage, but it was also against the spirit of sportsmanship.
* The safety car period created a unique opportunity for strategic decision-making, which added excitement to the race.

**Overall Message:**

The Canadian Grand Prix was a race of strategy, controversy, and exciting battles. The strategic decisions made during the safety car period were particularly noteworthy, as they had a significant impact on the outcome of the race. # Missed Apex Podcast: Canadian Grand Prix Review

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## Key Points and Main Arguments:

* **Williams' Strategy:** The team's decision to switch to slick tires during qualifying and take advantage of the safety car period was a strategic masterstroke, leading to strong results for Alex Albon and Nicholas Latifi.

* **Alonso's and Hamilton's Strategy:** There was discussion about whether Fernando Alonso and Lewis Hamilton could have improved their positions by staying out during the safety car period, but the consensus was that they made the right call to pit.

* **Hamilton's Tire Management:** Hamilton's ability to manage his tires effectively throughout the race was highlighted as a key factor in his strong performance and eventual podium finish.

* **Missed Apex Awards:**

* **Thing of the Weekend:** Cristina Lee Mace awarded this to Lewis Hamilton for his impressive tire management.

* **Missed Apex:** Antonia Rankin gave this to Nick De Vries for his subpar driving and defending, while Cristina Lee Mace criticized the camera angle on the main straight for providing poor coverage of the race. Matt Trumpets expressed frustration with the lack of a backup plan for the CCTV issues during Free Practice 1, and he also criticized Lando Norris for his reckless driving and five-second penalty.

## Notable Quotes:

* "I hope this doesn't go too deep, but I wonder, could Alonzo, could Hamilton have done better by staying out during the safety car?" - Antonia Rankin

* "Lewis Hamilton doing what Lewis Hamilton does best, which is, yeah, not going out there and thrashing his tires, going out there, managing stints, and actually kind of delivering." - Cristina Lee Mace

* "I'm going to give an honourable mention or dishonourable mention I suppose in this case to Nick De Vries. Just not the standard of racing I would expect from a driver of his calibre, the standard of defending you would expect from an F1 driver, generally disappointing battles from his side." - Antonia Rankin

* "For me it's that barrier and the camera angle going down the main straight into turn one. I don't know who allowed that camera to be set up that way." - Cristina Lee Mace

* "I'm really frustrated, because I had mine all lined up and it was guaranteed to enrage everybody." - Matt Trumpets

## Controversies and Insights:

* There was some debate about whether Alonso and Hamilton could have improved their positions by staying out during the safety car period, but the consensus was that they made the right call to pit.

* Antonia Rankin's criticism of Nick De Vries' driving and defending was met with some disagreement from the other panelists, who felt that he was simply being cautious and respectful in his battles.

* Matt Trumpets' frustration with the lack of a backup plan for the CCTV issues during Free Practice 1 highlighted the importance of having contingency plans in place for unforeseen circumstances.

## Overall Message and Takeaway:

The Canadian Grand Prix provided exciting racing and strategic battles, with Williams emerging as a surprise performer and Lewis Hamilton showcasing his tire management skills. The Missed Apex panel engaged in lively discussions about various aspects of the race, providing insightful analysis and entertaining commentary.

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[01:03.000 -> 01:20.000] You are listening to Miss apex podcast. We live at one.
[01:20.000 -> 01:25.280] Welcome to missed apex podcast. I'm your host Ready, but my friends call me Spanners. So
[01:25.920 -> 01:28.800] let's be friends. The title of today's show is
[01:29.440 -> 01:37.280] Canada Dry? And that show title was suggested by Uncle Steve in our Patreon Slack group. Welcome to our Canadian Grand Prix
[01:37.600 -> 01:43.840] race review, a race that kind of fizzled after the safety car strategies were left on the table,
[01:44.080 -> 01:48.000] but another interesting chapter in the F1 2023 season.
[01:48.000 -> 01:55.000] So we'll ask, has the field closed the gap to Red Bull? Is the Aston Martin hype train back on the rails?
[01:55.000 -> 02:00.000] And is Russell up to the task of being the future king of Mercedes?
[02:00.000 -> 02:06.040] We'll also ask, why can't Paris do Saturdays? and why is Hulkenberg destined to never get
[02:06.040 -> 02:07.100] a podium.
[02:07.100 -> 02:10.780] We are an independent podcast produced in the podcasting shed with the kind permission
[02:10.780 -> 02:11.780] of our better halves.
[02:11.780 -> 02:15.440] We aim to bring you a race review before your Monday morning commute.
[02:15.440 -> 02:22.640] We might be wrong, but we're first.
[02:22.640 -> 02:26.720] I'm joined in the shed by Matt to Rumpets.
[02:26.720 -> 02:27.720] How's it going, Matt?
[02:27.720 -> 02:32.480] Well, since we didn't see a groundhog on track, I'm afraid to report that it's going to be
[02:32.480 -> 02:35.840] six more weeks of Max winning that we're up for.
[02:35.840 -> 02:39.040] I thought you were going to say we'd have to watch the Canadian Grand Prix again until
[02:39.040 -> 02:40.040] spring.
[02:40.040 -> 02:49.760] Well, that would have that was my other option, but I went the other direction this time. We're also joined by resident tech expert and TikTok sensation, Antonia Rankine.
[02:49.760 -> 02:51.040] How's it going, Antonia?
[02:51.040 -> 02:54.560] Hi, yeah, I hope you don't have to watch that race on repeat because it was a race of
[02:54.560 -> 02:56.320] should have, would have and could have.
[02:56.320 -> 03:00.160] Well, we'll explore that and I'm delighted we're being joined again by Canadian,
[03:00.160 -> 03:02.720] and it's not just a token Canadian, Christina Mace.
[03:02.720 -> 03:03.600] How's it going, Christina?
[03:04.480 -> 03:09.520] It's going okay. I'm running on four hours of sleep and two energy drinks. So we'll see.
[03:09.520 -> 03:14.480] Ah, to be 20-something again. Right, let's get into the Canadian Grand Prix.
[03:21.520 -> 03:26.400] Okay, I think actually, Matt, the most interesting thing, like we normally look for like a big
[03:26.400 -> 03:32.180] ticket item, a big race, a clashing of Titans throughout a Grand Prix.
[03:32.180 -> 03:34.200] This race didn't deliver that.
[03:34.200 -> 03:39.800] However, perhaps the biggest talking point is it did look a little bit like the field
[03:39.800 -> 03:42.260] had closed the gap on Red Bull.
[03:42.260 -> 03:44.040] Is that real?
[03:44.040 -> 03:47.480] All those accountants back at the FIA are like, I told you so.
[03:47.520 -> 03:51.280] I told you so. Eventually that testing restriction would matter.
[03:51.600 -> 03:54.640] It's to answer your actual question.
[03:54.640 -> 03:56.640] Sorry about that. To answer your actual question.
[03:56.880 -> 03:58.640] It sure seemed like it, didn't it?
[03:58.800 -> 04:03.840] Now, Montreal is not a, quote unquote, representative track in the way that
[04:03.840 -> 04:05.720] Barcelona is, so you
[04:05.720 -> 04:07.660] got to add that in there.
[04:07.660 -> 04:13.880] But Aston brought a fairly huge upgrade, and there was distinctly a moment where Alonso
[04:13.880 -> 04:20.520] was on the radio, and he was being told to lift and coast, and he said, I'll do whatever,
[04:20.520 -> 04:21.920] I want to win this thing.
[04:21.920 -> 04:25.600] And I believe that's not just an Alonso saying Alonso things
[04:25.600 -> 04:29.820] I think he genuinely thought at a certain point in the race that they had the pace
[04:30.280 -> 04:37.360] To take it to the Red Bull. Unfortunately, I think other other things intervened. But yeah, it's sure looking close right now
[04:38.080 -> 04:40.280] Rankin yeah, so I was gonna say yeah
[04:40.280 -> 04:45.200] Well Alonso was saying that he'd potentially be two seconds behind and that's that's what they were aiming for
[04:45.960 -> 04:48.400] Yeah, I mean at the start of the race
[04:48.400 -> 04:54.340] It was quite refreshing to see that Lewis Hamilton only managed to drop out of DRS after four laps and not the normal
[04:54.340 -> 04:57.620] Half a lap that everyone else seems to be training behind Verstappen
[04:57.620 -> 05:03.080] I mean the gaps did seem to have closed up a little bit and it was a really promising race in a lot of ways
[05:03.080 -> 05:07.920] I mean, it was great to see Mercedes fighting up there, obviously with George, there was an unfortunate
[05:07.920 -> 05:11.680] mistake ruined his race. It happened. But yeah, with the Aston Martins as well, they
[05:11.680 -> 05:17.200] brought a very big upgrade that did seem actually to have them in pretty good stead. I think
[05:17.200 -> 05:21.520] there was a brief mention at the end of the race that Alonso was fighting a little bit
[05:21.520 -> 05:30.600] of an issue. So given his performance for the race, he actually did a blimming fantastic job to stick it in P2. With that said though, Lance was in a
[05:30.600 -> 05:34.820] bit of no man's land for the rest of the race. I have to say it was a bit of an underwhelming
[05:34.820 -> 05:39.720] race result from him. I mean, he got a little bit stuck in that DRS train, so those upgrades
[05:39.720 -> 05:43.880] obviously didn't put him pegs above everyone else because otherwise he would have been
[05:43.880 -> 05:47.120] blitzing through it. But yeah, definitely some promise.
[05:47.120 -> 05:51.520] And something else that was underwhelming, Christina, I don't want you to feel attacked
[05:51.520 -> 05:57.600] as our token Canadian, but obviously every single year people wheel out the 2011 race
[05:57.600 -> 06:05.520] with eight red flags, four billion pit stops, Jenson Button sticking his teammate in the wall and hitting everybody.
[06:06.480 -> 06:12.000] It's a great track, I love it, but you need to supply rain every year, I think, to make it buzz,
[06:12.000 -> 06:20.880] don't you? The predictability with which that track also gets rain is pretty stellar. It does
[06:20.880 -> 06:25.040] make me question kind of why they continue to hold the race at this time
[06:25.040 -> 06:29.120] of year because Montreal consistently gets rain during that time.
[06:29.120 -> 06:32.680] So, you know, yes, it's good for the spectacle of it all that they're hosting it during
[06:32.680 -> 06:38.520] this time, but I also pity all of the Canadians that are just in the stands in their rain
[06:38.520 -> 06:41.520] ponchos and I could just feel the dampness.
[06:41.520 -> 06:43.320] Jason Vale – Well, they're not used to it.
[06:43.320 -> 06:46.240] Like, if there's any nations where you go,
[06:46.240 -> 06:50.560] they're going to be okay being rained on. If you had to pick any three nations to fill the stands,
[06:50.560 -> 06:54.800] you go, right, well, the Brits are happy being rained on, probably the Dutch, because they live
[06:54.800 -> 06:57.280] basically underwater, and the Canadians.
[06:57.280 -> 07:02.880] KS Yeah, Canadians and bad weather kind of go hand in hand. It is typically not an issue, but
[07:03.920 -> 07:05.680] you would prefer to be dry and warm and
[07:05.680 -> 07:06.680] comfortable.
[07:06.680 -> 07:12.040] Yeah, I mean in F1, obviously rain is the great equalizer, so it really is nice, especially
[07:12.040 -> 07:16.280] at a circuit like Montreal, where we get a little bit of that thrown in. And in Quali
[07:16.280 -> 07:18.840] yesterday, it really proved to be a decisive factor.
[07:18.840 -> 07:20.600] Oh man, yeah.
[07:20.600 -> 07:27.580] Verstappen showed his just masterful performance, I I think yesterday in Quali. He was fantastic.
[07:27.580 -> 07:31.000] And I mean, there were some really, really stellar examples. Alexander Alban, where he
[07:31.000 -> 07:37.720] navigated the dry patches of the track to a T. It was amazing to watch.
[07:37.720 -> 07:41.400] I think it is worth actually just lingering on qualifying a little bit because it was
[07:41.400 -> 07:50.480] such a mixed up qualifying session. In that Q2, Antonia, Williams obviously gets some of the credit for going, hang on, this might be dry
[07:50.480 -> 07:57.360] conditions. But you make a mistake, you go offline, you don't end up producing what Albon
[07:57.360 -> 08:01.120] produced. And it wasn't just one lap, I think he put in two or three real good laps.
[08:01.760 -> 08:05.360] Yeah, I think as a team generally they made some very intelligent
[08:05.360 -> 08:09.920] calls strategically in Qualy, you know, they put the right tyres on in the slicks window in the
[08:09.920 -> 08:15.600] right time before the rain rejoined and you know, Qualy effectively ended early, didn't it, with
[08:15.600 -> 08:19.440] the rain picking up again. Yeah, Q2 was like the most interesting bit of that, wasn't it?
[08:19.440 -> 08:25.120] Well, exactly, but I just, I really do want to give credit where it's due to Alban because his
[08:25.120 -> 08:32.520] performance was just so skillful. It was masterful the way he navigated those conditions. And
[08:32.520 -> 08:36.580] it makes me almost sad that he is kind of peaking almost in his technical skills now
[08:36.580 -> 08:41.220] as opposed to a few years ago in the Red Bull because I would love to see him in a higher
[08:41.220 -> 08:50.040] performing car now, especially now that he's doing almost these George Russellian moves in Williams where it's like, okay, cool, he can make the step
[08:50.040 -> 08:51.360] up now, he can graduate.
[08:51.360 -> 08:56.640] George Russellian. I like that, Matt. Hey, Matt, you've been a big long term fan of Alex
[08:56.640 -> 09:01.200] Albon. So to see a performance like that where you go, yeah, driver skill is really going
[09:01.200 -> 09:09.520] to be a differentiating factor here. He's got arguably the worst car on the grid, and then suddenly to pop up and just be lighting
[09:09.520 -> 09:10.720] up that timesheet.
[09:10.720 -> 09:14.880] Yes, of course, the tire choice made a difference, but there would have been other drivers who'd
[09:14.880 -> 09:17.760] made that same tire choice and not made it stick.
[09:17.760 -> 09:20.640] And that actually, that could have affected the whole qualifying, because he showed you
[09:20.640 -> 09:27.080] could do it, whereas, I don't know, some other drivers might have gone out there on on on slicks and put it in the wall.
[09:27.280 -> 09:28.680] So it is interesting.
[09:28.880 -> 09:31.720] A lot of times qualifying doesn't matter that much.
[09:31.920 -> 09:34.320] But Albin's choice, or I would assume
[09:34.520 -> 09:40.440] William's choice to put him on slicks or the pair of them in Q2 changed everything
[09:40.640 -> 09:46.720] about this race and not just for Albin because he was so fast, we have Leclerc wanting
[09:46.720 -> 09:50.960] to be on those tires and not, and now we have proof that Leclerc was right, and once again,
[09:50.960 -> 09:56.720] Ferrari was wrong, and qualifying at least. We have Perez, we have a lot of people bailing late
[09:56.720 -> 10:02.240] to get onto these tires after the best conditions have passed, and only the people who could get
[10:02.240 -> 10:05.200] temperature into those tires, which was not an easy task,
[10:05.200 -> 10:10.160] were able to actually take advantage of it. So we saw people like Alonzo elect to stay on edders,
[10:10.160 -> 10:15.120] smart move I think, given his lap timings, and actually get through into Q3 easy,
[10:15.120 -> 10:21.400] but other people, like Perez, went on to the slick slate, couldn't get them working,
[10:21.400 -> 10:25.840] and then went on to the inners and didn't have enough time to get them back up to temperature and make
[10:25.840 -> 10:28.400] It through and that affected his entire race. So
[10:28.920 -> 10:34.900] This is a weird race and again also in the race where Williams made the dominant strategy call
[10:35.240 -> 10:39.280] Every time and drove almost all of the action that we're gonna talk about
[10:39.600 -> 10:49.400] Well, it just goes to show how important it is to be proactive in making these strategy calls and to be completely on the ball because the reactivity of some of these teams was
[10:49.400 -> 10:53.200] shocking. I mean, you know, you know, Ferrari really dropped the ball in qualy.
[10:53.200 -> 10:55.000] She said it, she said the F word.
[10:55.000 -> 10:57.880] I'm so sorry. I know this is a family friendly show.
[10:57.880 -> 10:58.880] That was the saddest.
[10:58.880 -> 11:07.200] We did well, but yeah, it was hard to watch. And I mean, at times, I honestly, and I say this hand on
[11:07.200 -> 11:11.200] heart, think if you put me in that Ferrari pit box, I could do a better job.
[11:11.200 -> 11:17.640] Honestly, for the last few years, I think a lot of people think that. And the most crushing
[11:17.640 -> 11:28.240] thing I've ever heard was Leclerc going, we, hi, I'm a talented and fantastic race driver and i'm here on track in my race car and i've
[11:28.240 -> 11:34.800] been doing this for ages i'm i'm pretty good at it please can i have some slick tires because i
[11:34.800 -> 11:40.960] think that's the best tire for this condition and then his engineer go yeah but like all the cool
[11:40.960 -> 11:48.000] kids are still on intermediate so that's what he That's what he said, he said, Max is on Inters, therefore you stay on Inters too.
[11:48.000 -> 11:53.000] That's heartbreaking, like, the drivers are telling Ferrari what to do,
[11:53.000 -> 11:57.000] and time after time, they're just inventing.
[11:57.000 -> 11:59.000] That's what they're doing, Antonio, they're inventing.
[11:59.000 -> 12:02.000] I mean, you saw it in the race today, Sainz talking to his pit wall engineer,
[12:02.000 -> 12:05.060] going, I can stay out, let me stay out, and then the pit wall engineer going, I can stay out, let me stay out.
[12:05.060 -> 12:06.460] And then the pit wall engineer going,
[12:06.460 -> 12:07.900] okay, stay out, stay out, stay out.
[12:07.900 -> 12:11.820] Like we know that's not you telling Sines what to do.
[12:11.820 -> 12:14.740] That was Sines forcing your hand going,
[12:14.740 -> 12:16.100] I know better here.
[12:16.100 -> 12:18.700] And I've been saying this for months and for months
[12:18.700 -> 12:19.980] and for months.
[12:19.980 -> 12:22.020] There is such a breakdown in communication
[12:22.020 -> 12:24.380] between the Ferrari pit wall and their drivers
[12:24.380 -> 12:27.720] because first of all, the drivers aren't getting the information that they need.
[12:27.720 -> 12:31.720] Signs in quali, for example, why was he not told that there were faster cars approaching?
[12:31.720 -> 12:32.840] Oh my god, yes!
[12:32.840 -> 12:34.840] That is such a basic principle of quali.
[12:34.840 -> 12:39.200] You get told when there is a faster car approaching so that you don't impede them.
[12:39.200 -> 12:41.960] That's one of your main jobs as a pit wall engineer.
[12:41.960 -> 12:44.440] Again, something that I watched it and I went,
[12:44.440 -> 12:45.100] well I could have told him that someone was it and I went, well, I could
[12:45.100 -> 12:46.660] have told him that someone was coming.
[12:46.660 -> 12:49.720] I could watch his GPS, pay me some money.
[12:49.720 -> 12:53.620] Like come on, you know, and there is such a breakdown between what the pit rule are
[12:53.620 -> 12:57.780] telling the drivers, but not just that, what they're listening to from the drivers. It's
[12:57.780 -> 13:03.340] like they don't trust the drivers to make the right call whatsoever. And these drivers
[13:03.340 -> 13:05.440] are blimming fantastic. I said at the start
[13:05.440 -> 13:11.840] of the 2022 season, Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz were the best driver lineup on the grid.
[13:11.840 -> 13:14.440] And look where they are now. Not a championship between them.
[13:14.440 -> 13:18.240] That's a right old rant. That is a right old rant. Trumpet.
[13:18.240 -> 13:19.240] I apologize.
[13:19.240 -> 13:22.680] Trumpet, tell her why she's wrong. Defend her.
[13:22.680 -> 13:25.920] Well, okay. Here's why you were wrong
[13:27.920 -> 13:28.080] First of all, it was very clear
[13:32.800 -> 13:33.600] Engineer heard what Charles little clerk had to say about those tires and just ignored him. Yeah
[13:40.260 -> 13:40.920] Second of all, I would wager there was a nine-hour meeting with all of the engineers top management
[13:46.400 -> 13:50.720] Elkann vineya and all those people pointing out how LeClerc was right. So when it was Carlos' turn to say, I want to stay out, whoever was in charge of making that choice, they like to call
[13:50.720 -> 13:56.000] them decision makers apparently these days, was like, oh yeah, that guy got dragged for ignoring
[13:56.000 -> 14:01.520] Charles. I think I'll listen to what Carlos has to say. But you are right. I think the symptom,
[14:02.080 -> 14:08.220] I think it's a symptom though. I think the issue is with the decision-making process
[14:08.220 -> 14:11.800] and with the culture of the team.
[14:11.800 -> 14:14.940] No one is, they're told this is a strategy
[14:14.940 -> 14:16.620] and whoever's in charge of that strategy
[14:16.620 -> 14:18.860] will not wander outside of that box
[14:18.860 -> 14:20.780] unless they hear from 19 different people
[14:20.780 -> 14:22.660] signed off in triplicate.
[14:22.660 -> 14:26.720] And that's what we've seen over and over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Christina?
[14:26.720 -> 14:32.160] Well, as much as I am always discouraged by Ferrari these days, I'm also mildly encouraged
[14:32.160 -> 14:38.800] because they have a new team principal and we're nearing that halfway mark of three year. And so,
[14:38.800 -> 14:42.080] I am hoping that we're going to start seeing change soon.
[14:42.080 -> 14:48.000] The Vasseur effect getting infused in, eh? I mean, you would hope
[14:48.000 -> 14:52.320] that it would have some change. You would hope that hiring a new person, because they recognize
[14:52.320 -> 14:57.600] at the end of last year, we have a problem and we need to attack it. And they've chosen that to be
[14:57.600 -> 15:03.920] the new team principal. So fingers crossed that now that he's been there for six months, maybe
[15:03.920 -> 15:05.680] we'll start seeing changes
[15:05.680 -> 15:10.320] after summer break. Maybe we have to wait for a full year. I'm hoping it doesn't take that long,
[15:10.320 -> 15:18.800] but I'm being stupid probably, but I am hoping that we're near the end of this horrendous...
[15:18.800 -> 15:22.480] No, no, not stupid. I think mean. So I'm going to say,
[15:22.480 -> 15:28.040] how dare you, Christina? How dare you give Ferrari fans hope? They are out
[15:28.040 -> 15:34.320] there and they have worked hard to remove all vessel of hope out of their body and there you
[15:34.320 -> 15:43.840] are sprinkling some new hope in. Antonio. See this is the thing, I don't think that
[15:43.840 -> 15:46.000] Bignotto was the issue with Ferrari, I think
[15:46.000 -> 15:51.240] Ferrari was the issue with Ferrari, they are their own worst enemy. I think there are issues
[15:51.240 -> 15:57.500] in every layer of Ferrari's team wherein the breakdowns in communication are at every single
[15:57.500 -> 16:03.200] stage because I wish it were a quick fix but I guess after six months, surely it doesn't
[16:03.200 -> 16:09.440] take six months for people to start learning from their mistakes. I mean it's been so long.
[16:09.440 -> 16:10.800] It's been 84 years.
[16:12.960 -> 16:18.640] It has been centuries, you know, and how does it take this long for a team to go,
[16:18.640 -> 16:24.800] oh actually we should listen to our drivers who are amongst the most talented individuals at this
[16:24.800 -> 16:25.680] in the world.
[16:25.680 -> 16:29.440] You know, we've got a new team principal at Aston Martin and he's absolutely killing it.
[16:29.440 -> 16:34.400] They're doing great. So I just, I don't think it's that simple. I wish it were.
[16:35.040 -> 16:37.120] Okay. Yeah, go on.
[16:38.560 -> 16:43.360] Overall though, I do agree that Benito probably wasn't the problem, but I do think replacing him
[16:43.360 -> 16:48.280] could potentially be the solution because he very obviously just kept denying and denying that there was a
[16:48.280 -> 16:52.040] problem and Bassaraf at the very least is saying, we recognise there are things we can
[16:52.040 -> 16:56.000] do better. And that's, I think that's where I'm getting the most hope is that he's actually
[16:56.000 -> 16:58.440] acknowledging and saying, we're going to make change.
[16:58.440 -> 17:02.960] Stop it, stop it. They've been through, they've been through enough. But look, look, this
[17:02.960 -> 17:09.280] has been a very difficult topic. And if you've been affected with any of the issues that we've led with here today you know you can email us
[17:09.280 -> 17:14.560] feedback at missedapex.net and if you see a Ferrari fan just just out and about you know
[17:14.560 -> 17:25.520] see someone in a Ferrari shirt or a Ferrari hat just just offer them a hug that hold them close and say, look, we're all F1 fans. It's going to be okay.
[17:30.400 -> 17:33.920] I don't think it's going to be okay, but don't tell them that. Right, let's move on to something
[17:33.920 -> 17:41.600] more positive, Matt, and that is Aston Martin, who were being very bullish in the form of
[17:41.600 -> 17:49.520] Fernando Alonso saying, we're going to be two seconds behind Red Bull. We're going to really be pushing them. The Canadian upgrades are going to be really great.
[17:49.520 -> 17:57.600] Now, I wonder whether there was a really positive step up with an upgrade, or whether they just
[17:57.600 -> 18:07.280] thought the upgrades that they've been bringing or the package they have was going to suit Canada because they were so confident about
[18:07.280 -> 18:12.120] how their performance was going to be in the Canadian Grand Prix and it kind of did come to
[18:12.120 -> 18:17.320] fruition. We were back to where we would expect them to have been given their previous season
[18:17.320 -> 18:21.000] performance. So upgrades, track specific, where we at?
[18:21.000 -> 18:27.600] No, I don't think they're track specific. I think Aston will have circuits where it does better
[18:27.600 -> 18:30.040] because of the inherent characteristics of the car.
[18:30.040 -> 18:33.080] It has an extremely good amount of downforce.
[18:33.080 -> 18:35.820] It is not as efficient as a Red Bull car,
[18:35.820 -> 18:39.160] but the place that they have always dominated
[18:39.160 -> 18:41.840] and Red Bull, Mercedes, any team on the grid,
[18:41.840 -> 18:44.440] the place they've dominated since they showed up
[18:44.440 -> 18:47.160] with their car has been in the braking zones.
[18:47.160 -> 18:52.120] They are better on braking than any other team right now on the grid.
[18:52.120 -> 18:55.640] And you can see it into turn one, you can see it into the hairpin.
[18:55.640 -> 19:01.660] So any race that features these kinds of really big braking zones, you can look for Aston
[19:01.660 -> 19:03.560] to be making some hay.
[19:03.560 -> 19:08.640] That said, they're talking like a team who's very confident in their correlation between
[19:08.640 -> 19:12.880] their CFD and wind tunnel and what they see.
[19:12.880 -> 19:13.880] And think about it, too.
[19:13.880 -> 19:19.360] This is like, FP1 was gone because of the TV issue, we might talk about that later.
[19:19.360 -> 19:26.380] FP2 was wet mass qualifying, FP3 equal disaster, not at all representative track conditions,
[19:26.380 -> 19:32.260] and with a brand new huge upgrade, they walked into the race on Sunday and came a lot closer
[19:32.260 -> 19:35.100] to winning it than probably most people thought they could have.
[19:35.100 -> 19:39.660] Yeah, I mean, going back to what you said about braking, you would think on a circuit
[19:39.660 -> 19:46.840] like in Canada, where braking is very intense, they would absolutely dominate. However, they
[19:46.840 -> 19:53.340] weren't necessarily right on top. I mean, it took until lap 22 for Alonso to take Hamilton,
[19:53.340 -> 19:57.320] so it wasn't quite as emphatic as I think you would have expected it to be.
[19:57.320 -> 20:02.480] Yeah, so if you want to kind of ruin it, Matt, for... if you want to ruin it for Aston Martin
[20:02.480 -> 20:05.040] fans and Alonso fans, there's a few factors.
[20:05.040 -> 20:12.160] So it's a track that isn't testing, for example, Mercedes' new downforce high speed
[20:12.160 -> 20:15.160] corner upgrade.
[20:15.160 -> 20:19.520] So Mercedes was sort of nerfed in that way and they knew, Mercedes knew in advance and
[20:19.520 -> 20:23.520] they said in advance it's not going to suit us, the track layout and the track surface.
[20:23.520 -> 20:30.920] So if I wanted to ruin it for Alonso fans, you could say perhaps this is a temporary reprieve. Oh, well, yeah, I mean the
[20:31.560 -> 20:38.480] nature of the circuit will benefit some cars more than others and this is definitely one that played to the strengths that
[20:39.120 -> 20:45.040] Aston absolutely had. Okay, so look at let's look at the dynamic between the two drivers.
[20:45.040 -> 20:49.280] Christina, Lawrence Stroll said by the end of the season,
[20:50.000 -> 20:54.480] Lance Stroll, your, and now your government will be listening to this,
[20:54.480 -> 21:00.080] your compatriot Lance Stroll will be level with Fernando Alonso by the end of the season.
[21:00.080 -> 21:01.600] That's what the team boss says.
[21:01.600 -> 21:02.240] True or false?
[21:02.960 -> 21:03.600] That's false.
[21:04.720 -> 21:06.400] You're going to get kicked out of Canada.
[21:08.800 -> 21:12.320] It's all good. I'm going to be heading out on my own anyway soon. But look,
[21:13.680 -> 21:18.720] I think it's just very... Oh, what's the word? It's on to my tongue, but very presumptuous to
[21:18.720 -> 21:30.800] say that this driver who has been consistently in the midfield for his entire career could come close to being on par with a two-time world champion who, under the right circumstances,
[21:30.800 -> 21:33.960] could have won many other championships in the last couple years.
[21:33.960 -> 21:36.800] Like, he is a world championship caliber driver.
[21:36.800 -> 21:43.120] So to say that Lance could come close to that performance of Alonso, that Lance could learn
[21:43.120 -> 21:45.600] from Alonso, I think would be much more
[21:45.600 -> 21:46.800] appropriate and encouraging.
[21:46.800 -> 21:47.800] He didn't say that.
[21:47.800 -> 21:48.800] I know he didn't say that.
[21:48.800 -> 21:54.400] He said he's going to be level with the two-time world champion and F1 great Alonso.
[21:54.400 -> 21:58.600] Yeah, it's one of those statements that pretty much everybody can see right through
[21:58.600 -> 22:04.600] and just be like, you know what, we get it dad, it's your kid, but you know.
[22:04.600 -> 22:05.160] I know, it's bad. Anton's your kid, but you know.
[22:05.220 -> 22:05.860] I know it's bad.
[22:05.860 -> 22:09.020] Antonia, can Christina come and live with you when she gets kicked out of Canada?
[22:10.860 -> 22:15.140] You are more than welcome anytime, as long as you put some respect on Lance's name.
[22:15.460 -> 22:21.240] I think the daddy's boy of F1 could do a bit better than we're all giving him credit.
[22:21.820 -> 22:24.100] I completely agree.
[22:24.140 -> 22:27.160] Level with Alonso is a huge stretch. However,
[22:27.160 -> 22:31.560] they are in the same machinery. In theory, they should, well, not in theory, there should
[22:31.560 -> 22:37.360] not be the gap that there is. Alonso pushing for constant podiums and Lance struggling
[22:37.360 -> 22:43.640] to tread water down in the midfield is completely unacceptable. As simple as it gets, these
[22:43.640 -> 22:46.680] drivers are the 20 best drivers in the world. They
[22:46.680 -> 22:52.620] need to be competitive. If Alonso is the best in the game, yeah, fair enough. Lance is also
[22:52.620 -> 22:56.360] meant to be amongst the best in the game. And if he's not keeping up with his teammate
[22:56.360 -> 23:01.640] who is the most comparable driver to himself in terms of performance this season, then
[23:01.640 -> 23:09.800] they really, really seriously need to have a look at him because I think it's, it's been a while now to be completely honest that he hasn't lived
[23:09.800 -> 23:15.120] up to the standards that he should be living up to. So whilst I think, yes, he's a great
[23:15.120 -> 23:21.280] driver and he could, yeah, have the potential to be up there fighting for podiums, there
[23:21.280 -> 23:25.340] has to be a barrier as to why he isn't because at the moment I've been quite underwhelmed
[23:25.340 -> 23:26.340] with how he's performing.
[23:26.340 -> 23:31.300] And Matt, bearing in mind that in the apocalypse Canada is going to be one of your closest
[23:31.300 -> 23:34.500] safe zones, interject carefully.
[23:34.500 -> 23:35.500] I don't know.
[23:35.500 -> 23:38.900] It's been on fire recently, so I'm not as convinced of that as I previously was.
[23:38.900 -> 23:39.900] Good point.
[23:39.900 -> 23:41.980] I would swim, swim for Greenland.
[23:41.980 -> 23:45.320] I think that's where we're all headed.
[23:45.320 -> 23:48.080] I'm going to make a counter-argument here.
[23:48.080 -> 23:53.640] Aside from qualifying, which I honestly just can't remember why Lance wound up where he
[23:53.640 -> 23:58.680] did or even where he wound up, he had a really good race today.
[23:58.680 -> 23:59.680] Really?
[23:59.680 -> 24:02.040] He had a pretty spectacular race today.
[24:02.040 -> 24:03.960] In fact, now imagine this.
[24:03.960 -> 24:06.880] I'm a driver and my team pits me the lap before
[24:06.880 -> 24:15.040] the safety car comes out. That would be Lance. And then they see something in the data and they
[24:15.040 -> 24:22.320] pit me like five laps before everybody else. And I go from basically like the back P15 or whatever,
[24:28.480 -> 24:29.040] like the back p15 or whatever and I wind up in ninth place because I passed the guy in 10th
[24:36.960 -> 24:47.920] on the line on the last lap. Lance was for quite some time the fastest guy on the track after his second pit stop for the new fresh hard tires and pretty much all the midfield wound up going for that two-stop strategy as a result, but it was
[24:47.920 -> 24:53.280] an optical illusion. They did it to get him out of traffic and let him run in free air, because
[24:53.280 -> 24:58.720] traffic, the T-word, which I think we're going to talk about later with Antonia, is definitely a
[24:58.720 -> 25:02.720] thing that affected the race today. I see your very well-reasoned and
[25:02.720 -> 25:06.620] understandable points, and I raise you, but what about every
[25:06.620 -> 25:08.100] single other race?
[25:08.100 -> 25:12.820] No, there is that. And there's definitely a broader conversation to be had there. But
[25:12.820 -> 25:18.020] actually, Antonio, I wanted to go to you next because Bruce in the Patreon live chat, patreon.com
[25:18.020 -> 25:22.740] forward slash missed apex support an independent podcast was talking about this being a point
[25:22.740 -> 25:25.400] and square circuit. So I think I was trying
[25:25.400 -> 25:29.720] to allude to it when I say, well, okay, this isn't the sort of track that the Mercedes
[25:29.720 -> 25:35.000] upgrades would be aimed at. And it looks like the battle for second place, because Ferrari
[25:35.000 -> 25:38.740] are just desperate to take themselves out of it. The battle for second place really
[25:38.740 -> 25:44.340] is between Hamilton and Alonso at the moment. So give me some insight a little bit into,
[25:44.340 -> 25:51.780] you know, how the different cars will suit different circuits. What's the main characteristics of each
[25:51.780 -> 25:54.460] car that we can look at in the races coming up?
[25:54.460 -> 26:00.040] Well, like Matt was saying, a circuit like this in Canada should, in theory, be very
[26:00.040 -> 26:07.200] well suited to the Aston Martins. So Pirelli actually rated Canada as a 5 out of 5 in braking
[26:07.200 -> 26:14.800] intensity, which is why we saw so many braking issues in so many of the cars, aka George Russell
[26:14.800 -> 26:20.800] at Mercedes. It really did not suit their car this weekend. George's brakes overheated, probably also
[26:20.800 -> 26:30.320] due to being in the DRS train actually. not being in clean air really would have caused those brakes to overheat even more so than they were already struggling from just how
[26:30.320 -> 26:35.280] intense the circuit is. But I mean in terms of you know straight line speed this this circuit in
[26:35.280 -> 26:41.200] Canada has a lot of long DRS zones broken up for example by the final chicane at the end where the
[26:41.200 -> 26:48.520] wall of champions, I have to say I was very very upset not to see the wall of champions be kissed today even it wasn't even given a little peck
[26:48.520 -> 26:51.740] very disappointing I'm not I wasn't alluding to anything there I'm just saying we haven't
[26:51.740 -> 26:56.080] seen Alonso in there we haven't seen Lewis or Verstappen it would have been nice but
[26:56.080 -> 27:00.480] I mean yeah that the thing about Canada like you said earlier it's got a lot of defining
[27:00.480 -> 27:05.360] characteristics that make it not a quote-unquote usual circuit. But Aston Martin
[27:05.360 -> 27:10.640] did have the upper hand today in terms of the characteristics of the circuit and they should
[27:10.640 -> 27:12.800] have, that's why I'm saying they should have done better than they did.
[27:18.000 -> 27:23.200] So I think we're gonna move on briefly but I think that the natural stage, Matt, I think is
[27:23.200 -> 27:30.000] we talk about the battle. I think the major battle was between Alonso and Hamilton today. So we can kind of, we
[27:30.000 -> 27:36.720] can straddle that, but I know, I know you think, and I disagree with you that, that
[27:36.720 -> 27:42.120] Alonso had a chance to pressure for the win today. But I honestly think the battle was
[27:42.120 -> 27:49.120] between Alonso and Hamilton. So, you know, let's get, let's get into that. But firstly, why do you think that Alonso had a chance at a win today. But I honestly think the battle was between Alonso and Hamilton. So, you know, let's get into that. Firstly, why do you think that Alonso had a chance at a win today?
[27:49.120 -> 27:55.120] Okay, well, let's go with the assumption the Aston was properly fueled and or didn't have a
[27:55.120 -> 28:00.240] problem with the fuel pump so that we didn't have to lift and coast. Didn't cost him a lot of time,
[28:00.240 -> 28:07.380] but it definitely cost you in your braking because it breaks more than you'd like them to and braking is clearly a big
[28:07.440 -> 28:10.020] Advantage for the Huston so right off the bat
[28:10.020 -> 28:14.620] You've got one sure but to be fair if if they did under fuel hoping for a safety car
[28:14.620 -> 28:19.000] And that's a good bet at Canada that there will be safety cars and there was
[28:19.640 -> 28:22.320] That is still part of your overall strategy
[28:22.320 -> 28:29.040] So if there's less safety cars than you want or no safety, and you end up having to lift and coast because you under-fuelled,
[28:29.040 -> 28:32.080] we can still factor that in when you talk about inherent performance.
[28:32.080 -> 28:37.600] CW2 Second of all, because it might have been a fuel pump problem, it might not have been an
[28:37.600 -> 28:41.760] under-fuel. I think there was a period of time where the team wasn't sure what was going on,
[28:41.760 -> 28:49.960] and they were being conservative to make sure there was a fuel sample for the FIA post-race because they've had some previous experience in that
[28:49.960 -> 28:52.080] department, if I remember correctly.
[28:52.080 -> 28:55.520] Second of all, we can blame Hulkenberg.
[28:55.520 -> 28:56.520] Yes!
[28:56.520 -> 28:58.660] How dare he!
[28:58.660 -> 29:04.000] Because he got that ridiculous penalty that kicked him out of second place.
[29:04.000 -> 29:09.120] And second place was the dirty side of the grid on a track that got hugely rained on
[29:09.120 -> 29:11.240] and was covered in dust.
[29:11.240 -> 29:16.640] If Alonso had been starting in third where Hamilton started, we'd have had Alonso chasing
[29:16.640 -> 29:17.880] Max from the start.
[29:17.880 -> 29:23.200] And I think we would have seen a different character to those first 22 or so laps.
[29:23.200 -> 29:25.000] Yeah, just to touch on that briefly,
[29:25.000 -> 29:29.000] I would have thought that Hulkenberg getting that penalty
[29:29.000 -> 29:32.000] would have been a godsend for Mercedes, right?
[29:32.000 -> 29:34.000] Because that in theory should have prevented them
[29:34.000 -> 29:40.000] from being stuck behind a really pesky DRS train type dynamic
[29:40.000 -> 29:41.000] in the first few laps.
[29:41.000 -> 29:44.000] So you would have thought, ah, fantastic,
[29:44.000 -> 29:46.160] Mercedes, second row lockout,
[29:46.160 -> 29:52.640] off they go into the sunset towards Max Verstappen. And they didn't. So I think that penalty in so
[29:52.640 -> 29:57.760] many ways was very underwhelming. Of course, also for Hülkenberg, I'm sure he didn't like it very
[29:57.760 -> 30:02.640] much either. Yeah, but Hülkenberg's made his deal. He made his deal with the devil. He will be
[30:02.640 -> 30:09.640] a fantastically handsome and rich F1 driver for years to come. And I think he'll still be racing at 50. But he is doomed.
[30:09.640 -> 30:11.360] Okay, we've had enough of your crush on Hulkenberg.
[30:11.360 -> 30:18.600] He is doomed to never ever get a podium. Have you seen that man's jaw? My goodness. My goodness.
[30:18.600 -> 30:31.000] He's like a Viking god. I will not back down from this, Miss Rankin. I will not back down. But Matt, Matt, I honestly do disagree with you that there was any serious prospect of Alonso challenging.
[30:31.000 -> 30:36.000] I really feel like they should have been looking backwards in their mirrors.
[30:36.000 -> 30:41.000] Initially losing out to Hamilton just meant that his battle with Hamilton was harder today.
[30:41.000 -> 30:48.940] Well, yeah, because it's not an easy place to pass and because because Aston isn't as fast in a straight line as, say, a Williams.
[30:48.940 -> 30:52.080] But I just put you the woulda, coulda, shoulda to you.
[30:52.080 -> 30:59.700] Had Alonzo persisted after Max, and on the hard tire where Verstappen admitted on the
[30:59.700 -> 31:10.200] radio twice, and in the cool-down room afterwards as as well that they were struggling to get those tires up to temperature the higher down force the
[31:10.200 -> 31:16.680] higher down force Aston would have had a serious advantage on that hard tire
[31:16.680 -> 31:21.040] against the Red Bull and he would have gone into that third stint a lot closer
[31:21.040 -> 31:27.780] to Max now the other thing I want to point out to you, and this is why, did you notice how Max sounded
[31:27.780 -> 31:31.440] kind of anxious about this until we started hearing
[31:31.440 -> 31:33.100] all the lift and coast messages,
[31:33.100 -> 31:35.420] and then we also got additional confirmation
[31:35.420 -> 31:37.820] Alonzo had a rear brake problem.
[31:37.820 -> 31:40.340] That's when he was being relaxed and laughing
[31:40.340 -> 31:43.100] about almost crashing himself out of the Grand Prix.
[31:43.100 -> 31:44.940] Up until then, he was telling the team,
[31:44.940 -> 31:45.680] look, these tires are no good, and the team was like, yeah, dude, we heard of the Grand Prix. Up until then, he was telling the team, look, these tires are no good.
[31:45.680 -> 31:47.360] And the team was like, yeah, dude,
[31:47.360 -> 31:48.840] we heard you the first time.
[31:48.840 -> 31:51.240] You're just going to need to drive this car for a while.
[31:51.240 -> 31:52.320] Okey dokes.
[31:52.320 -> 31:54.280] Yeah, not the only race engineer that
[31:54.280 -> 31:56.960] had some harsh words for their drivers this weekend.
[31:56.960 -> 31:59.240] But yeah, Antonio, the Aston Martin
[31:59.240 -> 32:01.120] looked really good on the hards.
[32:01.120 -> 32:03.000] Like, they specifically, it's so weird.
[32:03.000 -> 32:06.240] Like, any low grip condition, the Aston Martin seemed to come to life.
[32:06.240 -> 32:10.160] So as soon as the rain came on Saturday, they looked great. As soon as it dried out,
[32:10.160 -> 32:15.920] the advantage went away. When the teams were forced onto the higher tyre early by the safety car,
[32:16.560 -> 32:22.640] suddenly Aston Martin came to life again. Yeah, I mean, Pirelli have spoken about Canada saying
[32:22.640 -> 32:26.960] that it's typically a low asphalt abrasiveness,
[32:26.960 -> 32:32.720] in terms of intensiveness on the tires. It's not too difficult Canada, that's why we were
[32:32.720 -> 32:37.840] on the softest side of the tire spectrum. But I mean, just going back to the original
[32:37.840 -> 32:48.320] point, I think if Aston Martin were anywhere near Red Bull, Fernando Alonso took Hamilton lap 22 in a 70 lap race. He had 48 laps
[32:48.320 -> 32:54.320] to catch, even catch up to Max Verstappen. And he didn't. He wasn't really even that close.
[32:54.320 -> 32:58.720] The only time he closed up the gap was when Verstappen was just chilling out front, you know,
[32:58.720 -> 33:06.080] having his, you know, every Sunday chill drive in the park that he seems to be doing quite regularly now.
[33:07.680 -> 33:14.640] I know there were issues and I know the car wasn't perfect but it wasn't close enough in my opinion.
[33:14.640 -> 33:22.080] But Alonso would have gone to the front quicker were it not for Lewis Hamilton cutting him off
[33:22.080 -> 33:26.960] and doing an unsafe rejoin in the pit lane. So at the safety car pits,
[33:26.960 -> 33:32.560] they all came in for hards. Lewis Hamilton had a slightly slower stop, got ahead, made Fernando
[33:32.560 -> 33:39.360] Alonso pump the brakes, dramatically wiggle on the steering wheel. But, Christina, should that have
[33:39.360 -> 33:46.000] been a penalty for Lewis Hamilton? I don't think so. At the end of the day,
[33:46.000 -> 33:48.000] at the end of the day,
[33:48.000 -> 33:50.000] when they're all going into the pits during that
[33:50.000 -> 33:52.000] time frame, they know that
[33:52.000 -> 33:54.000] they have to keep it really tight. They know that they have to be
[33:54.000 -> 33:56.000] keeping an eye out. And at the end of the day, Fernando did that.
[33:56.000 -> 33:58.000] He kept an eye on things.
[33:58.000 -> 34:00.000] He saw that someone was releasing
[34:00.000 -> 34:02.000] and he reacted accordingly.
[34:02.000 -> 34:04.000] Everything went the way it was supposed to go.
[34:04.000 -> 34:08.880] I don't think it was an unsafe release. I think it was, these are drivers that have really quick reaction times and if we
[34:08.880 -> 34:12.720] release a car at this time, the other driver is going to notice and see and it'll be fine.
[34:13.280 -> 34:20.800] I highly recommend after our chat with Jules and Lucas at the weekend, talking about people who
[34:20.800 -> 34:28.200] just love to play up to the cameras. You know, there's always that situation in football where, you know, someone takes a shot from 25 yards. The power of the
[34:28.200 -> 34:33.200] shot is fully dissipated by the time it gets to the keeper, but he does like a big rolling
[34:33.200 -> 34:39.800] dive and you just know, you know, that is for the cameras. Nigel Mansell pushing his
[34:39.800 -> 34:47.260] Lotus collapsing, woe is me, for the cameras. Antonia, come on. Alonso, on the steering
[34:47.260 -> 34:52.740] wheel, panicking, oh my goodness, I nearly died, the Mercedes in front of me, oh woe
[34:52.740 -> 34:56.380] is me, we only just avoided catastrophe.
[34:56.380 -> 35:01.180] Yeah, so the reason I don't watch football is because if I wanted to watch actors I'd
[35:01.180 -> 35:10.840] watch a film. And I'm starting to see a little bit of that coming into the F1 radio messages. And to use some of my psychology knowledge here,
[35:10.840 -> 35:14.960] you will notice as you watch it, there are certain buzzwords thrown around on the radio
[35:14.960 -> 35:21.000] by pit wall engineers, you know. So when the unsafe quote unquote release happened, Alonso's
[35:21.000 -> 35:26.160] engineer came on and went, yeah, that was dangerous. And Alonso will
[35:26.160 -> 35:32.360] go, that was really unsafe. Almost as if they're trying to plant the idea in the stewards'
[35:32.360 -> 35:38.160] brains, like you hear that? That was unsafe. They released him in an unsafe, you know,
[35:38.160 -> 35:43.880] and it's like, come on, come on. We are, we are watching what is happening. And exactly
[35:43.880 -> 35:47.520] as Christina said, these are the drivers with the fastest reaction times,
[35:47.520 -> 35:49.480] probably of anyone on the planet.
[35:49.480 -> 35:51.360] They can see when a car is heading towards them.
[35:51.360 -> 35:52.280] There was no collision.
[35:52.280 -> 35:54.520] There was no even almost collision.
[35:54.520 -> 35:56.360] He didn't need to grab on the wheel and go,
[35:56.360 -> 35:58.080] oh my gosh, ah!
[35:58.080 -> 36:00.760] You know, it felt a little bit theatrical
[36:00.760 -> 36:02.120] playing up to the knowledge
[36:02.120 -> 36:03.440] that the stewards are listening in.
[36:03.440 -> 36:08.400] And I think we've started to notice that a little bit more and more. Whenever something happens
[36:08.400 -> 36:12.420] that a driver doesn't like, they come on the radio to their pit wall engineers, appearing
[36:12.420 -> 36:16.120] surreptitious going, Oh my goodness, did you see that?
[36:16.120 -> 36:19.000] But you don't mean Fernando. Fernando wouldn't do that.
[36:19.000 -> 36:24.640] Never, never. Of course, of course. That car, that car ahead of me could explode
[36:24.640 -> 36:25.360] into flames
[36:25.360 -> 36:29.900] and throw pieces of my car everywhere and kill me. You should black and orange flag
[36:29.900 -> 36:35.520] it immediately. The last lap before the race. So that was Lando Norris with Ocon's rear
[36:35.520 -> 36:39.660] wing that was kind of moving. It was wobbling a little bit. He's like, yeah, that is going
[36:39.660 -> 36:45.520] to literally take my head off. You need to definitely disqualify him. By the way, honourable mention
[36:45.520 -> 36:52.320] for Lando Norris because the last lap attempt really held on the outside until the last
[36:52.320 -> 36:58.040] possible moment and then went for the escape road. But yeah, four out of ten for him. He
[36:58.040 -> 37:02.160] has to get a meatball flag. I think that that car was basically doing that throughout the
[37:02.160 -> 37:06.040] whole weekend. And I think if that was going to get pulled up, it was going to get pulled up before that.
[37:06.760 -> 37:11.680] Antonia, quickly, and then I know that Christina has some regulations for us,
[37:11.920 -> 37:13.520] for the unsafe rejoin.
[37:13.680 -> 37:14.880] So I want to get into those as well.
[37:15.360 -> 37:19.000] Yeah, no, I mean, Ted Kravitz noted it literally at the start of the Grand Prix,
[37:19.000 -> 37:21.640] said, oh, that Alpine rear wing's looking a little bit wobbly.
[37:21.640 -> 37:29.360] And Landa would have been following him for a good few laps before saying anything. It was very much a, he literally said, again, buzzword,
[37:29.360 -> 37:34.440] he went, that could be so dangerous if that flies like, oh my God, that would be like,
[37:34.440 -> 37:40.840] that would be like meatballs flying all over my face. Meatballs. Oh my God. But Christina,
[37:40.840 -> 37:46.800] in our WhatsApp chat, when, when Hamilton came out in front of Alonso, a lot of people
[37:46.800 -> 37:53.080] said slam dunk penalty. Martin Brundle on the commentary said slam dunk penalty. And
[37:53.080 -> 37:58.320] I think people also were saying, well, if you cause a driver to brake, then that's a
[37:58.320 -> 38:06.180] penalty. Now, if you, on your driving test, pull out of a junction, out of a T-junction, say you turn right and
[38:06.180 -> 38:11.800] you cause a driver that was on the major road to slow down and brake, you will get marks
[38:11.800 -> 38:16.480] on your driving test. But is that the rule in the F1 pit lane?
[38:16.480 -> 38:22.680] It's not. The only regulation that you have is that cars must not be released from a garage
[38:22.680 -> 38:27.720] or pit stop position in a way that could endanger pit lane personnel or another driver.
[38:27.720 -> 38:28.720] That's...
[38:28.720 -> 38:33.680] Which, incredibly subjective, some people are sensitive and are like, oh my goodness,
[38:33.680 -> 38:36.000] my life flashed before my eyes, which...
[38:36.000 -> 38:37.000] I nearly died.
[38:37.000 -> 38:41.120] Exactly, it's like, there are many things that you can nearly die at, sweetie, that
[38:41.120 -> 38:43.600] doesn't mean that you actually nearly died.
[38:43.600 -> 38:49.640] Like I've met five-year-olds that have just as good theatrics as some of these F1 drivers. It's fantastic. But like
[38:49.640 -> 38:54.920] many penalties, so much of it is just down to the stewards. The regulations are ladled
[38:54.920 -> 39:00.040] with the stewards may impose a penalty. They do not have to, but they may. And again, this
[39:00.040 -> 39:05.760] is one of those situations where nothing is not nothing is ever penalty wise necessarily a slam dunk
[39:05.760 -> 39:11.040] because it's all down to somebody's personal judgment. And again, with these regulations being
[39:11.040 -> 39:19.760] so ambiguous, open ended, some of them do have good history and good precedent. And others don't.
[39:19.760 -> 39:25.640] So it's, it's one of those penalties where in my mind, they're quite random, aren't they,
[39:25.640 -> 39:26.640] Antonia?
[39:26.640 -> 39:27.640] Yeah.
[39:27.640 -> 39:28.640] Yeah.
[39:28.640 -> 39:35.960] I mean, after the 2021 race, yes, a lot of faith was lost in the objectivity of stewards.
[39:35.960 -> 39:42.400] However, because these regulations are subjective, we do have to think, okay, the stewards know
[39:42.400 -> 39:43.600] what they're doing.
[39:43.600 -> 39:47.440] If a penalty is necessary in this circumstance, they will enforce it.
[39:47.800 -> 39:51.880] And in a similar but slightly different circumstance, they will not, you know,
[39:52.040 -> 39:55.400] whilst there are subjectivities within the regulations,
[39:55.680 -> 40:00.040] it is incumbent upon us to remember that is for good reason.
[40:00.040 -> 40:03.840] And the penalty will be enforced on a situation dependent basis.
[40:03.840 -> 40:06.240] It will change every time according
[40:06.240 -> 40:13.200] to each individual offense or non-offense. So yeah, there are some subjectivities within
[40:13.200 -> 40:17.880] the regulations, but that isn't a bad thing. That doesn't necessarily mean a bad thing,
[40:17.880 -> 40:24.280] you know. Not every single behavior has to either be right or wrong in racing. That's
[40:24.280 -> 40:25.200] not how it works.
[40:25.200 -> 40:26.920] I think in this particular circumstance,
[40:26.920 -> 40:29.920] so obviously if there's a car flying down the pit lane
[40:29.920 -> 40:33.960] at pit lane speeds, and you just happen to pull out
[40:33.960 -> 40:37.080] in the pit lane and you block them,
[40:37.080 -> 40:38.400] yeah, unsafe release, I get that.
[40:38.400 -> 40:41.460] But in a situation where you're coming in line of stern,
[40:41.460 -> 40:44.520] the people releasing Hamilton can't possibly know
[40:44.520 -> 40:47.680] that he was 0.8 seconds slower to
[40:47.680 -> 40:53.520] change the tyres. And by the way, that has been quite crucial over the last couple of seasons.
[40:53.520 -> 41:00.240] Mercedes pit stops have been generally just that little bit slower. A lot of good Mercedes pit
[41:00.240 -> 41:05.160] stops are much closer to three seconds than two seconds. And here we saw a situation
[41:05.160 -> 41:09.920] where it was actually quite critical. But there's no way the person releasing them can
[41:09.920 -> 41:15.160] know that Alonso did it in 2.2 seconds and Mercedes did it in three seconds. It's really
[41:15.160 -> 41:21.280] hard to make that difference. So in this situation, yeah, okay, Alonso was inconvenienced, but
[41:21.280 -> 41:23.080] it's not unsafe. Matt?
[41:23.080 -> 41:27.160] Yeah, well, I want to say a lot of these could be dealt with by
[41:27.640 -> 41:31.420] Realizing that if you added if the other car didn't have brakes
[41:32.920 -> 41:36.640] Release. Okay guys, I think we're gonna move on to
[41:37.760 -> 41:40.320] actually, I think one of the biggest fails of
[41:41.120 -> 41:43.120] this race and that is
[41:47.320 -> 41:53.400] of this race and that is George Russell really I think dropping the ball in a situation where he had a chance to press forward and to stake his claim really
[41:53.400 -> 41:58.640] into where he fits into the overall picture of Formula One. So he was in
[41:58.640 -> 42:03.480] arguably the second or third best race car this weekend. He was up there
[42:03.480 -> 42:05.720] fighting, he's got Max Verstappen up ahead.
[42:05.920 -> 42:07.560] He's got Lewis Hamilton in second place.
[42:07.760 -> 42:09.560] He's got Fernando Alonso in third place.
[42:09.600 -> 42:12.360] His team is sandwiching Aston Martin,
[42:12.360 -> 42:15.400] their direct rivals, and he puts it in the wall.
[42:15.880 -> 42:20.760] To me, Matt, this feels like a big, a big fail.
[42:20.760 -> 42:24.320] Like this is a big, big setback in Project Russell.
[42:24.840 -> 42:30.400] I think we could call it the sophomore struggles. He's established himself at the team.
[42:30.400 -> 42:37.920] He's done well enough against his teammate. And now, now the hard yards begin.
[42:38.640 -> 42:44.560] And this happens, I've used this analogy before, but a lot of times in music, when you play a show,
[42:44.560 -> 42:46.440] the first time you're in, you're so on top a show the first time you're in you're so on top
[42:46.440 -> 42:49.820] Of it second time you're in you're on top of it the fourth or fifth time
[42:49.820 -> 42:51.560] You don't quite know the book
[42:51.560 -> 42:56.320] But you're also not really paying the same amount of attention and that's where the mistakes happen
[42:56.320 -> 43:03.100] And I think that's what we're seeing at Russell. He's gotten comfortable, but he doesn't have the mastery of Hamilton yet
[43:03.100 -> 43:10.260] So we're seeing these mistakes silly mistakes mistakes that you wouldn't expect him to make it's part of the process
[43:10.420 -> 43:17.080] But the question is how much will that affect him and his standing in the team until he gets past it now Christina
[43:17.080 -> 43:19.500] You're relatively new to the missed apex realm
[43:19.560 -> 43:22.640] So what I what I like is I like people
[43:22.840 -> 43:25.580] To tell me who they support as drivers so that we can
[43:25.580 -> 43:28.220] put their comments into context.
[43:28.220 -> 43:33.060] Now I'm famously neutral, but I do understand that some people have...
[43:33.060 -> 43:34.740] Stop, stop, stop.
[43:34.740 -> 43:36.900] Some people have favourite drivers.
[43:36.900 -> 43:41.500] Christina, just from a fandom point of view, where do you lie and particularly relating
[43:41.500 -> 43:43.580] to like Lewis Hamilton?
[43:43.580 -> 43:45.840] The big ones this season that I'm like hardcore
[43:45.840 -> 43:48.360] wanting to see results from are Pierre Gasly.
[43:48.360 -> 43:49.200] Nice.
[43:49.200 -> 43:50.020] Yuki Tsunoda.
[43:50.020 -> 43:50.860] Yes.
[43:50.860 -> 43:54.560] And, oh, there was a third one I was excited about.
[43:54.560 -> 43:55.560] Oscar Piastri.
[43:55.560 -> 43:56.880] Oh, sorry about that.
[43:56.880 -> 43:57.800] Yeah, okay.
[43:57.800 -> 43:59.640] So how about George Russell?
[43:59.640 -> 44:03.760] Does George Russell tickle your fan tingle at all?
[44:03.760 -> 44:04.600] Not yet.
[44:04.600 -> 44:06.880] No. I feel like he is still,
[44:06.880 -> 44:08.760] I think one day he's gonna sparkle,
[44:08.760 -> 44:10.480] one day he's gonna get that shimmer in his eye
[44:10.480 -> 44:13.960] and just be like on his way to being top at the top,
[44:13.960 -> 44:15.000] best of the best.
[44:15.000 -> 44:18.320] But I think right now he's kind of just waiting.
[44:18.320 -> 44:19.860] Like he's still very much, I feel like,
[44:19.860 -> 44:21.420] in a learning curve situation
[44:21.420 -> 44:24.800] where he's not fine tuning his own driving
[44:24.800 -> 44:26.080] because he knows that these are his
[44:26.080 -> 44:32.000] personal faults. I feel like he's kind of just still getting comfortable in Mercedes almost
[44:32.000 -> 44:36.240] and not having that ability to be extremely self-critical and extremely fine-tuning.
[44:36.240 -> 44:40.000] I think you've hit the nail on the head there. Yeah, and this is the thing, like,
[44:40.000 -> 44:51.600] you don't sense at all that he's self-critical. You sense that in his world, he's pushing himself as the complete package, pushing to the top. And I wonder, I'll go to Matt for this actually,
[44:51.600 -> 44:57.920] I wonder if that's the source of today's error, which is like, he was off the pace,
[44:58.640 -> 45:08.000] he was dropping back from Alonso, he's already asking for what alternative strategies might work, and they said, no, no, no, just go faster, mate.
[45:08.000 -> 45:16.000] Try to go faster and hit the wall. And that does smack of just someone just out of their, someone driving out of their comfort zone today.
[45:16.000 -> 45:27.880] He was told to, he was told to drive out of his comfort zone. He did, and he hit the wall, which is why I can't be overly critical. Well, except for, you know, more experienced hands will just simply go as
[45:27.880 -> 45:29.800] fast as they can without crashing.
[45:29.800 -> 45:30.120] Yeah.
[45:30.520 -> 45:33.440] They're not going to get baited into that, which is, I think that was a
[45:33.440 -> 45:37.480] Schumacher claim at Haas too, which I think was actually quite valid.
[45:38.000 -> 45:41.440] Um, but for Russell, no, he didn't have the pace today.
[45:41.560 -> 45:46.400] He was desperate, I believe desperate to be up or around Hamilton or
[45:46.400 -> 45:52.480] to find a way around him. And when told, it was just it was a it was a mistake that we saw Max
[45:52.480 -> 45:58.480] make and not crash. And the difference, once again, I think is mainly one of experience. He just was
[45:58.480 -> 46:07.200] slightly out of his depth this particular weekend. And he's going to get less forgiveness the longer he's at
[46:07.200 -> 46:08.200] the team.
[46:08.200 -> 46:09.880] Yeah, I completely agree.
[46:09.880 -> 46:14.480] The longer he's there, the less he's going to be allowed to abide his time and wait for
[46:14.480 -> 46:16.600] his time to come.
[46:16.600 -> 46:21.640] There comes a point where you are no longer in the fastest car on the grid.
[46:21.640 -> 46:30.480] You know, George Russell moved to Mercedes and was expecting an almost immediate world championship, I think. And you get the impression that whilst he is irrefutably,
[46:30.480 -> 46:35.920] in my opinion, one of the best drivers on the grid and phenomenally talented, a small mistake.
[46:35.920 -> 46:36.880] I don't agree.
[46:36.880 -> 46:38.240] Don't you dare shake your head.
[46:38.240 -> 46:41.360] I... well, okay, let's have a fight. Let's have a fight.
[46:41.360 -> 46:42.720] Oh, okay, square up. Let's go. Square up.
[46:42.720 -> 46:49.000] Okay, here we go. Here we go. Russell, the last two seasons has showed that he doesn't have the ultimate pace of the top drivers
[46:49.000 -> 46:55.000] and he cannot compete on race pace with a slightly beyond his peak Lewis Hamilton.
[46:55.000 -> 46:57.000] He is not the future of Mercedes.
[46:57.000 -> 47:04.000] I see that. And I raise you. Is he meant to be directly in line with a seven time world champion?
[47:04.000 -> 47:05.680] I thought that was the whole point.
[47:06.240 -> 47:10.880] He is a phenomenal driver, George Russell, but again, I think there's an element of
[47:11.840 -> 47:17.280] unrealized talent in the fact that he's kind of waiting for the car to grow around him
[47:17.280 -> 47:26.000] rather than him growing into the car. He's kind of waiting for Mercedes to get back into their heyday, I think, and get back into
[47:26.000 -> 47:32.000] their phenomenal, excellent performance. And then he'll start showing all of his potential
[47:32.000 -> 47:34.040] once the car is more behind him.
[47:34.040 -> 47:39.440] Okay, so whilst you're fundamentally wrong, I think you've rescued it slightly in that
[47:39.440 -> 47:45.600] if Lewis Hamilton retires and Mercedes completely rally around George Russell and build the team around
[47:45.600 -> 47:52.840] him, which I believe every F1 team should build around a number one driver, then yes,
[47:52.840 -> 47:56.840] maybe Russell could do that. But at the moment, he's got a massive problem, which is that
[47:56.840 -> 48:01.760] every year that Lewis Hamilton stays in the sport and he can't match him on race pace,
[48:01.760 -> 48:05.520] all he can do is what he's been doing, which is go for the alternate
[48:05.520 -> 48:10.800] strategies and it's made him look good on occasion, but it's a paper tiger.
[48:10.800 -> 48:17.760] Yeah, it's the alternate strategies have got him lucky occasionally, isn't it? You know,
[48:17.760 -> 48:23.040] whenever Hamilton fails, he does well. Whenever the opponents don't do well, George does.
[48:23.040 -> 48:25.280] There have been a lot of cases where
[48:25.280 -> 48:30.680] he's kind of grown out of the misfortune of others, which again is unfortunate because
[48:30.680 -> 48:37.360] I do think he has so much potential, Russell. But I think a lot of that isn't realized yet,
[48:37.360 -> 48:42.480] unfortunately, because we saw it at Williams. He was so used to fighting against the car.
[48:42.480 -> 48:45.520] I think in Mercedes, he of had got the false impression
[48:45.520 -> 48:50.080] that he wouldn't have to fight against a car anymore, which of course has turned out not to be
[48:50.080 -> 48:55.760] true. How's that worked out? Yeah, it's just Matt, I don't know. He came out and he said
[48:56.880 -> 49:01.840] a lot of drivers out there don't have spatial awareness, which would have been way more
[49:02.560 -> 49:05.760] profound had he not just hit his own teammate in qualifying
[49:05.760 -> 49:12.880] the weekend before and rejoined unsafely in Monaco. But he's yeah, I just I don't know.
[49:12.880 -> 49:16.480] It feels like he's just biting off more than he can chew. And maybe he should be just saying,
[49:16.480 -> 49:21.720] okay, I'm going to be Hamilton's out and out number two here. I'm going to play the team
[49:21.720 -> 49:27.280] game. I know there's a shelf life on on Lewis retiring in 2024. I'm going to play the team game. I know there's a shelf life on Lewis retiring. In 2024, I'm going
[49:27.280 -> 49:33.200] to show that I've got the pace. I'm going to build the team around me as Hamilton retires.
[49:33.200 -> 49:40.000] But I don't know, the way he's just pushing to be number one beyond what he's actually delivering
[49:40.000 -> 49:51.200] makes me sad for the well-wishers of George Russell. Yeah, I mean, gosh, those comments were pretty savage, weren't they, when he said that? But
[49:51.760 -> 49:58.480] it's a problem for him. He says he's faster than Lewis, but he's not putting the results
[49:59.040 -> 50:07.320] there yet, because in Formula One, it's about more than just raw pace. So he's not complete in the way
[50:07.320 -> 50:12.240] that Hamilton is, in the way that Verstappen is, in the way that Alonso is.
[50:12.240 -> 50:18.280] Maybe you could sort of put signs there, except for he's not maybe quite fast
[50:18.280 -> 50:22.920] enough. I mean, I feel like with Verstappen, Alonso, and Hamilton we're
[50:22.920 -> 50:29.040] talking about three drivers on a very distinct plateau, and no one else in the grid
[50:29.040 -> 50:29.720] is there.
[50:29.720 -> 50:32.040] They might occasionally bounce up there for a race.
[50:32.040 -> 50:35.680] But for the consistency, for the completeness of it,
[50:35.680 -> 50:37.720] this is Russell's struggle now.
[50:37.720 -> 50:41.040] And he would be smart, as you suggest,
[50:41.040 -> 50:46.960] to simply put his head down, know in his heart that yes, in qualifying I can probably...
[50:46.960 -> 50:48.720] The inequality is there, yeah.
[50:48.720 -> 50:53.760] Yeah, I've got the raw pace over Lewis now, and then ask the following question,
[50:53.760 -> 50:59.600] if that's the case, why am I doing worse in the races very regularly right now?
[50:59.600 -> 51:06.280] And start answering that. That's what he really needs to do.
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[52:34.480 -> 52:45.680] Antonio, the live chat is coming in defensive of Russell and I sort of agree. The team is built around
[52:45.680 -> 52:48.000] Lewis Hamilton. This is Lewis Hamilton's team.
[52:48.000 -> 52:52.360] Yeah, I mean, Paddy in the live chat said, to be fair to Russell with Mick Schumacher
[52:52.360 -> 52:54.000] in the wings, why try?
[52:54.000 -> 52:57.640] He's probably feeling quite safe, yeah.
[52:57.640 -> 53:02.920] But it all jokes aside, it raises the point that Matt was making, which is with all of
[53:02.920 -> 53:10.320] the greats on the grid, why try? It's like trying, you know, it would be like me waltzing into the boxing ring and I could
[53:10.320 -> 53:16.360] try my best to look good, but if Connor McGregor's there, you know, I don't know why I chose
[53:16.360 -> 53:19.320] boxing as an analogy. I know nothing about it.
[53:19.320 -> 53:20.320] It showed.
[53:20.320 -> 53:21.320] Do you know what I mean?
[53:21.320 -> 53:25.520] That showed really quickly. That was a paper towel in a water fight.
[53:25.520 -> 53:29.480] If I tried to do a penalty shootout and John Terry was next to me.
[53:29.480 -> 53:32.480] Wow. Yeah, you need to update your soccer references also.
[53:32.480 -> 53:37.000] Gosh, I need to stick to F1. But my point is, there are so many greats on the grid right
[53:37.000 -> 53:41.280] now. Verstappen is a great in the making, arguably already a great. We've got Lewis,
[53:41.280 -> 53:46.000] we've got Alonso. It's so hard to assert yourself as a good driver amongst these guys.
[53:46.000 -> 53:48.000] And that's why I completely agree with Matt.
[53:48.000 -> 53:52.000] He's just got to get his head down and figure out where his strengths are,
[53:52.000 -> 53:56.000] how to exploit them and how to build up on where he's lacking.
[53:56.000 -> 54:02.000] Okay, so we come to Verstappen and I struggle when a driver is in a dominant car
[54:02.000 -> 54:04.000] to really talk about their performance.
[54:04.000 -> 54:07.840] So I'm offloading it to you, to Christina. Rate Verstappen's race?
[54:08.640 -> 54:10.960] Like, solid seven out of ten.
[54:10.960 -> 54:11.520] Yeah, solid, isn't it?
[54:11.520 -> 54:15.920] Like, he did the job. He did exactly what he was supposed to do. Well, actually, no,
[54:15.920 -> 54:20.720] he was struggling a little bit on his tires, so I'll give him like an eight, 8.5, because he did
[54:20.720 -> 54:25.360] manage something that was proving to be a little bit of a challenge, but not a crazy challenge.
[54:25.360 -> 54:33.040] So, you know, overall good job, but again, he has a car that just does so much, like you said.
[54:33.040 -> 54:38.000] It's really hard to evaluate him, like, so hard.
[54:38.000 -> 54:41.280] So people who were going to yell at me for being a Perez fan would say,
[54:41.280 -> 54:44.720] well Perez shows what a good job Verstappen is doing.
[54:44.720 -> 54:49.040] And again, I'm too sad to talk about the ongoing struggles of Sergio Perez.
[54:49.200 -> 54:51.280] So I'm going to dump that on you as well, Christina.
[54:52.800 -> 54:54.840] Look, I don't know what is going on.
[54:54.840 -> 54:58.120] I don't know if he changed his schedule, like his morning routine or something, but
[54:58.640 -> 55:09.800] the way he's struggling in qualifying is absolutely just mind-blowing. Like, it's a good car. Presumably he hasn't
[55:09.800 -> 55:15.640] changed anything drastic about his approach to how he sets up, does his setup, but there's
[55:15.640 -> 55:20.520] something that's seriously going wrong. And the part that kind of baffles me is that this
[55:20.520 -> 55:30.700] is a team that's incredibly self-critical. This is a team that is very good at being analytical and not accepting fault and failure.
[55:30.700 -> 55:37.020] And so as much as part of it is Perez and him, so much of this, especially compared
[55:37.020 -> 55:43.220] to Verstappen, he's not living up to the potential of that car that we have seen him do.
[55:43.220 -> 55:44.220] That's the other thing that's disappointing.
[55:44.220 -> 55:46.520] It's just not even in comparison to Verstappen.
[55:46.520 -> 55:50.200] It's in comparison to what we've seen him do before.
[55:50.200 -> 55:52.200] And so that's where the disappointment really comes
[55:52.200 -> 55:54.320] for me, is that he can do better.
[55:54.320 -> 55:55.320] Why isn't he?
[55:55.320 -> 55:58.800] And I do think part of it falls on the team
[55:58.800 -> 56:03.040] as well, because if a driver is struggling and having
[56:03.040 -> 56:06.160] the yips for whatever reason, how do you handle that?
[56:06.160 -> 56:10.960] How do you attack that? How do you help solve that problem? It's not going to disappear by just
[56:10.960 -> 56:16.240] hoping for the best. Okay, you said that out loud and I don't think we're supposed to say the Y
[56:16.240 -> 56:21.920] word out loud. But look, Christina, as a Paris fan, I'm with you exactly. That's the same thing
[56:22.640 -> 56:26.980] I'm yelling at. I've seen you drive so well thing I'm yelling at. It's like, I've seen you drive so well.
[56:26.980 -> 56:28.940] Like, I've seen you pull these performances out.
[56:28.940 -> 56:32.600] I've seen you, like, win a race from the back of the grid
[56:32.600 -> 56:34.180] in not the fastest car.
[56:34.180 -> 56:36.620] What on earth is going on?
[56:36.620 -> 56:38.020] No, no, it's a serious question.
[56:38.020 -> 56:39.020] What on earth is going on?
[56:39.020 -> 56:41.940] Please, please answer and solve it somehow.
[56:41.940 -> 56:43.000] Fair enough, Matt.
[56:44.340 -> 56:48.100] Well, I would like to state that I cannot believe
[56:48.100 -> 56:51.400] I have been doing this podcast with you so long.
[56:51.400 -> 56:53.440] I am now finding myself in the position
[56:53.440 -> 56:56.960] of defending Sergio Perez, but yet here I am.
[56:56.960 -> 56:58.260] Yeah, Stockholm syndrome.
[56:59.680 -> 57:00.840] Yeah, go on, let's go.
[57:00.840 -> 57:03.200] First of all, kudos to Max,
[57:03.200 -> 57:06.800] because in the crazy weather and qualifying
[57:06.800 -> 57:10.600] He was the one that absolutely got the job done in that car
[57:10.880 -> 57:16.360] So if you want to talk about why max deserves a high driver rating, I just point at quality and say look there you go
[57:16.360 -> 57:23.240] It's done. Yeah, we can argue about how dominant the Red Bull is now how close Aston might have been how much pressure they were under
[57:23.280 -> 57:30.240] That's all subjective. Qualifying? That's not. He did the job, nobody else did. But we can also talk about why that
[57:30.240 -> 57:36.080] qualifying was a particular challenge for Perez, which had to do with the tires and the temperature.
[57:36.080 -> 57:41.520] Perez is a noted tire whisperer, which means he makes the tires last a long time, which means he's
[57:41.520 -> 57:45.440] very careful with the slip angles of the tire, which makes them last a long time, which means he's very careful with the slip angles of the tire, which makes them last
[57:45.440 -> 57:51.840] a long time, but which means that much less energy goes into the tire, meaning it doesn't get as hot
[57:51.840 -> 57:56.960] as quick. And this is where I think Red Bull's strategy kind of dropped the ball with him.
[57:56.960 -> 58:01.120] They didn't put him on slicks at the start, they didn't bring him in at the end of his
[58:01.120 -> 58:06.160] outlap to put him on slicks, like Albon was already on, and the way they made
[58:06.160 -> 58:12.720] him change tires essentially guaranteed him to have cold tires for all of his attempts in Q2.
[58:12.720 -> 58:19.200] And despite that, he still got kind of close. It wasn't that bad. And then he had a very good
[58:19.200 -> 58:28.080] recovery race today. It was hard to pass, even in the best car, especially in traffic. And he they
[58:28.080 -> 58:33.740] managed to get him up there and he managed to give them fastest lap of the race when
[58:33.740 -> 58:40.160] they asked him to. He did the jobs. I don't know that I would count this weekend's performance
[58:40.160 -> 58:44.480] in with a straight up. Yep. In with a straight up miss in with a straight up. Oh, there you
[58:44.480 -> 58:45.800] are. There's Q3,
[58:45.800 -> 58:47.280] oops, I drove off the track
[58:47.280 -> 58:49.220] and gave up my only chance to get through.
[58:49.220 -> 58:50.980] It wasn't that kind of a thing.
[58:50.980 -> 58:55.740] It was much more nuanced and complex from his point of view,
[58:55.740 -> 58:58.580] and I think from the team's point of view as well.
[58:58.580 -> 59:01.360] Ah, yes, good old reliable Perez,
[59:01.360 -> 59:03.860] doing the job that he is expected to do
[59:03.860 -> 59:06.960] as a good number two driver should.
[59:06.960 -> 59:14.040] He's in my opinion shaping up to be the Valtteri Bottas to Verstappen's Hamilton.
[59:14.040 -> 59:15.880] No, don't do that.
[59:15.880 -> 59:18.880] He's going to start eating porridge real soon.
[59:18.880 -> 59:19.880] You just wait.
[59:19.880 -> 59:24.320] Well, at least we get to see some, what, some bot photos in a river, I guess.
[59:24.320 -> 59:25.760] No, of course, it's the most important component of a number two driver. Well, at least we get to see some what some butt photos in a river, I guess
[59:32.880 -> 59:33.280] The most important component of a number two driver. Yeah, that was the highlight of Bottas's career or Butt-Ass as he was fondly known
[59:35.280 -> 59:35.800] No, I think Perez
[59:39.560 -> 59:43.060] Bless him. We've had this conversation before actually where we've said Oh, is he going to is he gonna push for World Championships?
[59:43.060 -> 59:51.440] Because he thinks he can push for a World championship this season he thinks he can challenge max no i'm sorry you can't but you're
[59:51.440 -> 59:57.200] doing a really great job of supporting his dreams you know i think the meanest possible way you
[59:57.200 -> 01:00:04.000] could have said that i can't get devastated with how you said that i just i have the utmost respect
[01:00:04.000 -> 01:00:06.320] for checo because he's brilliant,
[01:00:06.320 -> 01:00:11.280] fantastic, good driver, reliable and oh we've just had some news in, Christian Horn has revealed that
[01:00:11.280 -> 01:00:17.040] the remains of the bird that Verstappen hit got stuck behind the front right brake duct for the
[01:00:17.040 -> 01:00:23.280] whole race. Right, okay, goodness. So Verstappen put on that performance with bird body in his
[01:00:23.840 -> 01:00:26.080] grill. That changes the score, yeah.
[01:00:26.080 -> 01:00:27.400] It does, it does.
[01:00:27.400 -> 01:00:29.400] Yeah, it does a little bit.
[01:00:29.400 -> 01:00:30.400] Pitch to ride.
[01:00:30.400 -> 01:00:34.720] Anyway, but what I'm saying is, you know, Perez isn't going to get world championships.
[01:00:34.720 -> 01:00:39.040] I think that much is an unfortunate reality, but he's doing a pretty good job of supporting
[01:00:39.040 -> 01:00:43.400] Verstappen and doing all of the things that a number two driver should be doing.
[01:00:43.400 -> 01:00:45.440] He's the good, reliable,
[01:00:45.440 -> 01:00:53.320] tire whispering, good defender. He checks all of the boxes except the pure, carnal,
[01:00:53.320 -> 01:00:57.120] need to win, fire from hell, you know.
[01:00:57.120 -> 01:01:07.040] Stop, stop! He's already dead! Stop kicking! My goodness! Right, speaking of, you know, stop kicking. McLaren.
[01:01:12.160 -> 01:01:19.920] Any McLaren fans on the panel? What is there to say? I mean, they showed real promise at the start
[01:01:19.920 -> 01:01:25.840] of the race. They really, I think they were running P7, P8. They just kind of got lost in the DRS
[01:01:25.840 -> 01:01:34.280] train, didn't they? They were pretty un-anything, really. I mean, Norris had a couple of rushes
[01:01:34.280 -> 01:01:39.880] with penalties. Obviously, there was the impeding incident, but then also the backing up during
[01:01:39.880 -> 01:01:46.320] the safety car for unsportsmanlike behaviour, which I thought was very rogue, to be honest.
[01:01:46.320 -> 01:01:51.120] That's a weird one. It's a situation we've come across quite a lot with the double stack and a
[01:01:51.120 -> 01:01:57.200] driver trying to make sure that he's not penalised by that, giving himself enough space behind his
[01:01:57.200 -> 01:02:03.840] teammate. Christina, what do the regulations tell us about unsportsmanlike behaviour? That's the
[01:02:03.840 -> 01:02:05.560] vaguest of vague terms.
[01:02:05.560 -> 01:02:12.400] KS. Well, the regulation isn't much clearer. It's equally as vague as when we were talking
[01:02:12.400 -> 01:02:18.440] about the unsafe release. It's any infringement of the principles of fairness in competition,
[01:02:18.440 -> 01:02:23.740] behaviour in an unsportsmanlike manner, or attempt to influence the result of a competition
[01:02:23.740 -> 01:02:25.440] in a way that is contrary
[01:02:25.440 -> 01:02:29.760] to sporting ethics. And I'm sure that there's a whole manual somewhere out there of sporting
[01:02:29.760 -> 01:02:33.200] ethics. Heck, there's probably a university course or something you could take. But
[01:02:35.200 -> 01:02:40.720] I understand if he was backing up the field extremely significantly. And I'd have to go
[01:02:40.720 -> 01:02:45.120] back and look and see exactly how bad it was, because quite frankly,
[01:02:45.120 -> 01:02:50.560] I don't remember them giving the McLarens any screen time up until Norris started complaining
[01:02:50.560 -> 01:02:57.920] about the back wing, which, brutal. Oh yeah, 50 kph in Turn 10, and they're usually what,
[01:02:57.920 -> 01:03:06.480] around 80? So then yes, that's a significant back up. Yeah. I think it depends where you did the backing up.
[01:03:06.480 -> 01:03:08.760] So like, did you like break early?
[01:03:08.760 -> 01:03:10.280] Did you just not lift?
[01:03:10.280 -> 01:03:12.080] Matt, there's a lot of...
[01:03:12.080 -> 01:03:15.400] Matt, in fact, you and me, we've had a lot of discussions with the racing drivers we
[01:03:15.400 -> 01:03:20.480] know with Brad Philpott, obviously, and Alex Brundle, you know, and we've talked about
[01:03:20.480 -> 01:03:31.440] like in a hairpin, I think Luffield's like a really good example at Silverstone, like do if there's a car behind you, are you obliged to get on the power at the expected point? And if you
[01:03:31.440 -> 01:03:36.720] don't and someone drives into the back of you, whose fault is that? So yeah, there's a lot of
[01:03:36.720 -> 01:03:41.120] these discussions around sportsmanship, especially when it comes to like a corner exit. But the more
[01:03:41.120 -> 01:03:45.680] usual thing people have done in the past is slow down in the entrance
[01:03:45.680 -> 01:03:50.880] and that's been slammed down on. So Norris has taken a different tactic here.
[01:03:51.600 -> 01:03:58.640] Yeah, he has. And I think, again, it's just a matter of degree. The reason they absolutely
[01:03:58.640 -> 01:04:06.320] nailed his hide to the wall was because they measured a 50 kilometer an hour differences, Christina correctly noted,
[01:04:06.320 -> 01:04:13.520] between him and Piastri in turn 10, as they were heading down the street to the pits. And that was
[01:04:13.520 -> 01:04:21.040] only in order to give McLaren a big enough gap so they could double stack and not lose a place.
[01:04:21.040 -> 01:04:25.960] Had he done that in the pit entry, he absolutely would have been penalized
[01:04:25.960 -> 01:04:29.240] for it. I think the stewards looked at it and said, well, if that happened in the pit
[01:04:29.240 -> 01:04:34.640] entry, what would we have done? We'd have penalized him. So we should penalize him for
[01:04:34.640 -> 01:04:39.600] that, but we don't have a regulation for it in the Formula One sporting regulations. What
[01:04:39.600 -> 01:04:47.860] do we have in the International Sporting Code, which is the go-to document for all racing drivers
[01:04:47.860 -> 01:04:49.860] and behaviors and infringements
[01:04:49.860 -> 01:04:51.100] and everything else like that.
[01:04:51.100 -> 01:04:54.280] And they said, well, inherently that's unfair.
[01:04:54.280 -> 01:04:55.980] So there you go.
[01:04:55.980 -> 01:04:57.700] I don't know, I really struggle with this one
[01:04:57.700 -> 01:05:00.020] because I don't think it's so black and white.
[01:05:00.020 -> 01:05:03.060] I think, you know, it was a bit harsh
[01:05:03.060 -> 01:05:04.220] to penalize him for this
[01:05:04.220 -> 01:05:07.000] because drivers trying to find creative ways
[01:05:07.000 -> 01:05:08.920] to get around the regulations.
[01:05:08.920 -> 01:05:10.920] Again, I've said this so many times,
[01:05:10.920 -> 01:05:12.480] but at what point do we just say,
[01:05:12.480 -> 01:05:14.760] yeah, it's racing, that's just a strategy
[01:05:14.760 -> 01:05:15.960] that they've employed.
[01:05:16.880 -> 01:05:20.160] Unethical, yes, but it was during a safety car period.
[01:05:20.160 -> 01:05:24.880] You know, it didn't really affect anyone that badly.
[01:05:24.880 -> 01:05:27.040] You know, it just meant that McLaren had
[01:05:27.040 -> 01:05:33.360] a good chance to double stack. I mean, I completely understand that it is, yes, it is unsportsmanlike,
[01:05:33.360 -> 01:05:39.120] but it's surely all defending is unsportsmanlike because you want the best for your team.
[01:05:39.120 -> 01:05:45.760] But I like that kind of gamesmanship. So as much as everything that happened in Abu Dhabi 2021
[01:05:45.760 -> 01:05:51.760] stabs me in the heart and I hate it and we should burn everything about it, I like the fact that
[01:05:51.760 -> 01:05:58.800] all through 2021 Red Bull deployed all the resources they had available. So they deployed Perez because
[01:05:58.800 -> 01:06:03.840] they had him available. I don't agree that they should have a whole second team available unless
[01:06:03.840 -> 01:06:07.440] Mercedes also had that, in which case, fair game.
[01:06:07.440 -> 01:06:12.920] Like if Mercedes wanted to deploy Williams drivers in the same way that Red Bull deployed
[01:06:12.920 -> 01:06:18.240] Alfa Tauri drivers, I love all that sporting element, all that strategy element.
[01:06:18.240 -> 01:06:22.960] So there comes a point, Matt, where we just go, yeah, you know what, let drivers game
[01:06:22.960 -> 01:06:23.960] the system.
[01:06:23.960 -> 01:06:25.260] Let them use every bit of the rules
[01:06:25.260 -> 01:06:31.280] Let them defend and I would say that if it was a 5 or a 10 mile an hour discrepancy
[01:06:31.560 -> 01:06:35.360] He probably would have gotten away with it. Okay, but I always thought 50 kph
[01:06:36.160 -> 01:06:38.160] under a safety car
[01:06:38.460 -> 01:06:44.600] How do you not take that seriously as as a safety issue if nothing else would be my response?
[01:06:44.600 -> 01:06:45.440] Maybe maybe drivers could be more germane to that. They could they could be like, oh no seriously as a safety issue if nothing else, would be my response. Maybe
[01:06:45.440 -> 01:06:49.600] drivers could be more germane to that. They could be like, oh no, no, 50 kph.
[01:06:49.600 -> 01:06:54.240] You might see that variant, but I would guess most drivers are expecting to be
[01:06:54.240 -> 01:06:58.320] going more or less exactly the same speed through there, and that's a pretty
[01:06:58.320 -> 01:07:03.680] big enough difference to make me go, eh, maybe, maybe. Maybe contextually it
[01:07:03.680 -> 01:07:06.780] was more dangerous than we know.
[01:07:06.780 -> 01:07:12.140] And so, so fair enough, although it wasn't strictly against the letter of the F1 sporting
[01:07:12.140 -> 01:07:13.740] codes per se.
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[01:08:32.620 -> 01:08:36.940] to the awards.
[01:08:36.940 -> 01:08:47.240] It's the podium of the Canadian Grand Prix. Max Verstappen takes a victory that looked comfortable, but may not have been so comfortable.
[01:08:47.240 -> 01:08:51.600] Could it be foreboding of a title challenge to come?
[01:08:51.680 -> 01:08:56.520] Let's all keep that hope injected into our veins that we'll have some fights for P1.
[01:08:56.640 -> 01:09:01.280] The most fascinating fight out there, however, has to be Lewis Hamilton
[01:09:01.440 -> 01:09:04.880] versus Fernando Alonso over the next six or seven races.
[01:09:05.000 -> 01:09:06.560] Who can keep that going? Fernando Alonso over the next six or seven races. Who can keep that going?
[01:09:06.560 -> 01:09:09.800] Fernando Alonso has had the car advantage going forward
[01:09:09.800 -> 01:09:13.280] and he's certainly the number one driver for Aston Martin.
[01:09:13.280 -> 01:09:16.080] Mercedes now listening to James Allison.
[01:09:16.080 -> 01:09:21.200] He sounds like a kid literally just unwrapping LOL dolls,
[01:09:21.200 -> 01:09:22.560] layer after layer.
[01:09:22.560 -> 01:09:24.240] So he's just like pulling off layers going,
[01:09:24.240 -> 01:09:25.140] oh, now the doll's got a new booty, new sunglasses for my LOL dolls, layer after layer. So he's just like pulling off layers going, oh, now the
[01:09:25.140 -> 01:09:30.500] doll's got a new booty, new sunglasses for my LOL dolls. And he is just every single
[01:09:30.500 -> 01:09:34.220] race saying, wow, you know, we're going to bring more stuff, more stuff. And they just
[01:09:34.220 -> 01:09:38.540] seem to have this package going together. So Lewis Hamilton versus Fernando Alonso,
[01:09:38.540 -> 01:09:45.480] I think is going to be one of the biggest, most exciting battles to look forward to for the remainder of 2023.
[01:09:45.680 -> 01:09:47.840] But our panel here is now going to cast
[01:09:48.040 -> 01:09:52.400] judgment over the Canadian Grand Prix of 2023.
[01:09:52.400 -> 01:09:53.640] And we've got a couple of awards,
[01:09:53.840 -> 01:09:56.320] a good thing award and a bad thing award.
[01:09:56.520 -> 01:10:00.520] So let's start with the thing of the weekend.
[01:10:03.600 -> 01:10:09.080] Let me introduce you to the panel you've enjoyed listening to today. We've got Antonia Rankin,
[01:10:09.080 -> 01:10:14.760] who is annoyingly just, you're just, you're everywhere. You're infusing yourself into
[01:10:14.760 -> 01:10:23.520] the F1 culture. And I hate to say it, you did very well on the podcast that dare not
[01:10:23.520 -> 01:10:25.400] speak its name.
[01:10:25.400 -> 01:10:29.320] It is a betrayal, but it was wonderful to see you on such a big platform.
[01:10:29.320 -> 01:10:30.320] Thank you.
[01:10:30.320 -> 01:10:33.800] Yeah, it's been a bit crazy recently, but I mean, I'll never forget my roots.
[01:10:33.800 -> 01:10:35.480] Miss David Pecks runs through my blood.
[01:10:35.480 -> 01:10:37.640] Yeah, we're literally the best one.
[01:10:37.640 -> 01:10:38.960] So never forget that.
[01:10:38.960 -> 01:10:39.960] Oh yeah, my favourite.
[01:10:39.960 -> 01:10:43.760] Follow F1Antonia on TikTok.
[01:10:43.760 -> 01:10:44.760] I remembered it.
[01:10:44.760 -> 01:10:45.520] Well done. You've got something like 60,000 follows on TikTok. I remembered it. Well done.
[01:10:47.600 -> 01:10:48.880] Something like 60,000 follows on there. It's absolutely nuts.
[01:10:48.880 -> 01:10:51.040] They're fun. They're informative.
[01:10:51.040 -> 01:10:53.760] Anytime your TikToks appear on my feed, they're great.
[01:10:53.760 -> 01:10:54.800] So go and follow Antonia.
[01:10:54.800 -> 01:10:56.640] The links will be in the show notes below
[01:10:56.640 -> 01:11:00.240] and also on Twitter, F1Antonia there also.
[01:11:00.960 -> 01:11:02.720] Antonia J Rankin.
[01:11:02.720 -> 01:11:03.920] I should change that, shouldn't I?
[01:11:03.920 -> 01:11:05.400] It makes life easier. Yeah. No one cares about the J. Good. I should change that, shouldn't I? It makes life easier.
[01:11:05.400 -> 01:11:07.360] Yeah, no one cares about the J. Good.
[01:11:07.360 -> 01:11:08.360] I'll get on that.
[01:11:08.360 -> 01:11:12.500] But moving on, what was your thing of the weekend this weekend?
[01:11:12.500 -> 01:11:20.200] I'm going to give it to Lando Norris for absolutely blasting it until the end. He really put his
[01:11:20.200 -> 01:11:26.240] everything into battling until the last, literally the last lap and it's really nice to see,
[01:11:26.240 -> 01:11:30.840] to be honest, every place matters, every single millisecond, I guess for him, especially this
[01:11:30.840 -> 01:11:36.840] weekend matters. And the fighting spirit that he has, I think is what makes him such a fantastic
[01:11:36.840 -> 01:11:38.320] driver. So full creds for that.
[01:11:38.320 -> 01:11:43.080] He tried his heart out to get the stewards to disqualify the car in front and then in
[01:11:43.080 -> 01:11:46.400] the end, in the end he resorted to trying to
[01:11:46.400 -> 01:11:53.200] overtake him. So yes, you're absolutely right. Okay, so Norris gets Antonia's vote. Christina,
[01:11:53.200 -> 01:12:00.080] also very active on TikTok, you do a lot of like explainer type videos. I think like people who are
[01:12:00.080 -> 01:12:07.600] newer to the sport, I think like would benefit you just giving everything in a very, dare I say, a journalistic style.
[01:12:07.600 -> 01:12:10.840] I've been told that, yes.
[01:12:10.840 -> 01:12:13.840] And where can we find you on TikTok? What should we search?
[01:12:13.840 -> 01:12:15.240] Christina dot fast cars.
[01:12:15.240 -> 01:12:20.520] Oh yeah, these cars are pretty fast. Go and click in the show notes below. So from this
[01:12:20.520 -> 01:12:25.120] Canadian Grand Prix, who is the thing of the weekend, or what is the thing of the weekend,
[01:12:25.120 -> 01:12:30.160] or when was the thing of the weekend for you? I'm actually going to give it to George Russell.
[01:12:30.160 -> 01:12:31.760] What? When he got snuck in,
[01:12:31.760 -> 01:12:35.120] he snuck in the double overtake on De Vries. Oh, that was good.
[01:12:35.120 -> 01:12:36.960] And I want to say Magnussen. That was quite good.
[01:12:36.960 -> 01:12:42.240] They were getting all tied up with each other and not really paying attention,
[01:12:42.240 -> 01:12:46.640] and they let a heavy hitter through. That was a stupid move on their part.
[01:12:47.280 -> 01:12:48.960] Good moment of opportunity for him.
[01:12:48.960 -> 01:12:50.720] And you've just invoked this segment.
[01:12:51.360 -> 01:12:52.320] Whose fault is it?
[01:12:52.320 -> 01:12:54.240] I can't believe we haven't had one yet.
[01:12:54.240 -> 01:12:58.880] It was actually such a well-behaved race that we didn't have a whose fault is it.
[01:12:58.880 -> 01:13:05.400] So firstly, I'm disappointed that there wasn't a, there goes Russell, because it was very
[01:13:05.400 -> 01:13:10.520] reminiscent wasn't it of the Lewis Hamilton 2022 Silverstone where Perez was battling
[01:13:10.520 -> 01:13:16.160] with Leclerc into the Vale chicane and Lewis Hamilton managed to dive his way through and
[01:13:16.160 -> 01:13:21.680] that almost now I think iconic commentary of, there goes Hamilton. It was a very similar
[01:13:21.680 -> 01:13:28.360] move from George Russell, but that led to further incidents between
[01:13:28.360 -> 01:13:33.640] De Vries and Magnussen. Who's got a take on whose fault it was between De Vries and Magnussen?
[01:13:33.640 -> 01:13:34.640] Antonia.
[01:13:34.640 -> 01:13:41.480] This links into my You Missed the Apex award, because I think Nick De Vries versus Magnussen
[01:13:41.480 -> 01:13:47.040] there was just shocking. It was awful. I'm aware he locked up, there
[01:13:47.040 -> 01:13:51.720] wasn't a lot he could do and then Magnussen being on the outside had nowhere to go or
[01:13:51.720 -> 01:13:57.440] he overbraked, you know, but it was just really bad racing from him. And I know De Vries to
[01:13:57.440 -> 01:14:01.800] be better, you know, he's the Formula E champion, he's a good driver, but it was just, for me
[01:14:01.800 -> 01:14:05.440] there was really poor race craft shown from him. Definitely
[01:14:05.440 -> 01:14:10.240] his fault and just not a good clean battle. Not a good battle full stop to be honest.
[01:14:10.240 -> 01:14:13.720] No, it was scrappy. And actually, Matt, I think you'll have some insight in this like
[01:14:13.720 -> 01:14:18.920] the freezer has been struggling on the brakes. And again, it's in the braking zones where
[01:14:18.920 -> 01:14:21.480] he seems to look the least comfortable.
[01:14:21.480 -> 01:14:26.400] Yeah, well, Canada is a particularly difficult track for brakes and
[01:14:26.400 -> 01:14:34.760] braking. So I'm not really surprised by that. Alpha Tauri has been, well, they haven't been
[01:14:34.760 -> 01:14:42.040] the greatest of manufacturers this season. So he doesn't have a particularly great platform to work
[01:14:42.040 -> 01:14:46.680] with. And you know, look, the mistake that took them both up the escape road. Fair enough. He was
[01:14:46.680 -> 01:14:50.520] on the inside, it was dusty, he locked up. I'm a bit surprised,
[01:14:50.520 -> 01:14:54.120] actually, that Magnuson hadn't already slowed down and was
[01:14:54.120 -> 01:14:58.400] aiming for a cutback looking at DeVries positioning. But it was
[01:14:58.400 -> 01:15:02.400] really the previous corner that seemed kind of clunky to me. And
[01:15:02.880 -> 01:15:06.160] I know we sort of argue on on-corner exit,
[01:15:06.160 -> 01:15:10.520] but it seemed like he was not leaving Magnuson enough room
[01:15:10.520 -> 01:15:14.880] on corner exit that sort of led to this entire thing.
[01:15:14.880 -> 01:15:15.840] Yeah.
[01:15:15.840 -> 01:15:17.840] Yeah, yeah, in turn one, he definitely,
[01:15:17.840 -> 01:15:20.440] like, he pushed him all the way out, Magnuson.
[01:15:20.440 -> 01:15:23.000] And I think Magnuson actually was quite compliant.
[01:15:23.000 -> 01:15:27.280] So he went all the way off to the point that it wasn't disaster
[01:15:27.620 -> 01:15:32.880] But if he'd have held his ground if Magnussen had kept all four wheels on the track, which I think he's entitled to do
[01:15:32.880 -> 01:15:38.120] I think I ends up being quite that ends up being quite a bad that have ends up being quite a bad crash
[01:15:38.760 -> 01:15:45.280] Yeah, and so I mean to me that fundamentally means it's DeVries' fault for the whole thing.
[01:15:45.280 -> 01:15:48.400] Because I think, frankly, if he kept a tighter line, he did just...
[01:15:48.400 -> 01:15:51.240] Magnussen had more or less given up on that.
[01:15:51.240 -> 01:15:54.340] The only reason DeVries was still passing him was because he spent...
[01:15:54.340 -> 01:15:58.460] They had contact, and he spent so much time shoving him to the outside of the track, instead
[01:15:58.460 -> 01:16:03.120] of just getting on with taking a clean line and getting on with getting past him.
[01:16:03.120 -> 01:16:08.000] Okay, so a diversion there by Christina, but you're sticking with Russell, Thing of the Weekend.
[01:16:08.560 -> 01:16:14.000] Oh, absolutely. I'm sticking with it. It was a lovely move. It was well-timed.
[01:16:15.120 -> 01:16:16.320] It was just nicely done.
[01:16:16.880 -> 01:16:20.880] You're wrong about that. What else are you wrong about? I don't know if we can trust any of the
[01:16:20.880 -> 01:16:25.520] regulation stuff you've said now. Fair enough, fair enough.
[01:16:25.520 -> 01:16:33.840] That's your thing of the weekend, Matt. Two rumpets. You are at MattPT55 on Twitter. You're
[01:16:33.840 -> 01:16:39.520] often wrong about stuff on Twitter as well. Follow Matt just to argue with him. He honestly,
[01:16:39.520 -> 01:16:41.640] he loves it. He absolutely loves that.
[01:16:41.640 -> 01:16:46.820] It entertains me for hours on end. I love nothing better than arguing with people on
[01:16:46.820 -> 01:16:50.920] Twitter as long as we're having a conversation and it's not just shouting.
[01:16:50.920 -> 01:16:57.720] No, resort to personal insults immediately. That is the way to Matt Trumpet's heart. But
[01:16:57.720 -> 01:17:03.500] the way to the best thing of the weekend is to ask you directly, Matt, what was your thing
[01:17:03.500 -> 01:17:10.640] of the weekend? Well, this is hard because what I really want to say is it's got to be Alex Alba and 58 laps on
[01:17:10.640 -> 01:17:17.040] the hard tires, staying in P7. But I'm going to go back to what I said earlier. It's the people
[01:17:17.040 -> 01:17:23.760] who chose to not come in during the safety car that made this race so absolutely interesting.
[01:17:23.760 -> 01:17:30.040] I wonder about that. the safety car that made this race so absolutely interesting. So, I will give it to them with their strong nod to the Williams Strategy Department for
[01:17:30.040 -> 01:17:34.660] getting the slicks right in QALY and then getting the safety car call also right.
[01:17:34.660 -> 01:17:36.160] This is a broader thing.
[01:17:36.160 -> 01:17:41.660] I hope this doesn't go too deep, but I wonder, could Alonzo, could Hamilton have done better
[01:17:41.660 -> 01:17:44.280] by staying out during the safety car?
[01:17:44.280 -> 01:17:48.000] Archon. Archon. Could Hamilton have done better by staying out during the safety car? Ocon. I was convinced plan A was go to the end
[01:17:48.000 -> 01:17:53.360] But what they saw they were tricked by Lance Stroll's times, but Lance Stroll's times were in
[01:17:53.920 -> 01:17:58.280] Clean air. So they saw how fast the fresh tire was in clean air
[01:17:58.280 -> 01:18:03.960] They put it on and then it just wasn't that fast in traffic. That's what happened. All right
[01:18:04.400 -> 01:18:06.080] Okay, and the other thing, I was
[01:18:06.080 -> 01:18:12.240] trying to think of another strategy thing. Lewis Hamilton triggered the second stop quite early
[01:18:12.240 -> 01:18:18.560] because the hards weren't working for him. I wonder, could they have gone to mediums earlier
[01:18:18.560 -> 01:18:24.400] and kind of shaken things up a bit more? You would have had to look at the pit window
[01:18:24.400 -> 01:18:25.280] behind him.
[01:18:25.280 -> 01:18:28.160] Ah, good point. He would have wanted to come out on those
[01:18:28.160 -> 01:18:34.160] mediums ahead of Leclerc finished behind him. So it would have, it was really down to, you can see
[01:18:34.160 -> 01:18:38.320] actually I'm looking at the pit stop summary right now because you know, that's my kind of life.
[01:18:38.320 -> 01:18:47.440] And I can see Leclerc signs was in, Perez was in 37, signs 38, Leclerc 39, Hamilton 40, Alonzo 41, Max 42.
[01:18:47.440 -> 01:18:53.680] So as that pit stop gap appeared, they pitted, but they couldn't do it until the gap behind
[01:18:53.680 -> 01:18:54.680] them was there.
[01:18:54.680 -> 01:18:57.040] Otherwise, they were stuck behind slower cars.
[01:18:57.040 -> 01:18:59.880] Ask me what my thing of the weekend was.
[01:18:59.880 -> 01:19:00.880] You know, I'm really curious.
[01:19:00.880 -> 01:19:03.240] I tried to steal all of the really good things.
[01:19:03.240 -> 01:19:11.360] I mean, I've got Williams, I've got Albon, I've got the safety car things. What's on your mind? What's left?
[01:19:11.360 -> 01:19:15.040] Yeah, what could your thing of the week be? My thing? Oh, thanks for asking. Okay,
[01:19:15.040 -> 01:19:22.080] so my thing of the weekend is Lewis Hamilton and the way that he was able to manage his tire stints.
[01:19:22.080 -> 01:19:26.960] I think we saw Lewis Hamilton doing what Lewis Hamilton does best, which is, yeah,
[01:19:26.960 -> 01:19:29.540] not going out there and thrashing his tyres,
[01:19:29.540 -> 01:19:31.520] going out there, managing stints,
[01:19:31.520 -> 01:19:32.900] and actually kind of delivering.
[01:19:32.900 -> 01:19:37.000] And if you look at the medium tyre stint at the end,
[01:19:37.000 -> 01:19:38.200] there was real potential.
[01:19:38.200 -> 01:19:40.000] Had they had more time on the medium
[01:19:40.000 -> 01:19:42.040] and less time on the hards, he could have gone
[01:19:42.040 -> 01:19:43.960] and taken the fight to Fernando Alonso,
[01:19:43.960 -> 01:19:48.720] and I would have loved to have seen that. At one point they did get within 1.4 seconds
[01:19:48.720 -> 01:19:53.140] I think Hamilton got within Fernando Alonso, which kind of made them panic and shake them
[01:19:53.140 -> 01:19:59.440] out of their fuel saving. But going forward with this package on non-street circuit tracks,
[01:19:59.440 -> 01:20:12.280] I think Lewis Hamilton is going to be a force to be reckoned with. OK, so that's all the good thing, and I like the good thing award, the thing of the weekend,
[01:20:12.280 -> 01:20:17.160] because we get to be super positive, lovely people. Now, let's get into the worst of the
[01:20:17.160 -> 01:20:24.240] mud-slinking armchair strategist and driver stuff as we ask, who missed the apex?
[01:20:24.240 -> 01:20:26.320] Oh no, you missed the apex.
[01:20:26.320 -> 01:20:31.800] All right, Antonia. I know it's beyond you normally to get super negative, but who missed
[01:20:31.800 -> 01:20:33.120] the apex for you?
[01:20:33.120 -> 01:20:37.520] Yeah, as I mentioned earlier, I'm going to give an honourable mention or dishonourable
[01:20:37.520 -> 01:20:42.200] mention I suppose in this case to Nick De Vries. Just not the standard of racing I would
[01:20:42.200 -> 01:20:46.720] expect from a driver of his calibre, the standard of defending you would expect from an F1 driver,
[01:20:46.720 -> 01:20:49.640] generally disappointing battles from his side.
[01:20:49.640 -> 01:20:56.920] But primarily I would like to give my missed apex award to the single piece of commentary
[01:20:56.920 -> 01:21:04.600] from Crofty wherein he said, the old switcheroo, and I think I threw up in my mouth a little bit.
[01:21:04.600 -> 01:21:06.580] Oh no, that's super harsh mate!
[01:21:07.240 -> 01:21:13.040] Commentary is so hard though because you just run out of things to say so quickly and he is you know
[01:21:13.620 -> 01:21:19.260] Crofty's the guy I grew up listening to with all of this. That's so interesting. Yeah, that's that single line
[01:21:20.000 -> 01:21:22.000] Big no from me. Sorry chief
[01:21:23.100 -> 01:21:27.480] David Croft is undoubtedly the voice of f1 for a generation
[01:21:27.480 -> 01:21:31.100] It does it week in week out and you do very quickly run out of things to say
[01:21:31.100 -> 01:21:36.560] so recently I was putting together a show reel and I remember I did two full seasons of commentary and
[01:21:37.320 -> 01:21:43.440] And I was paid to do it and I looked I went back to find a clip and I couldn't find a single clip
[01:21:43.440 -> 01:21:45.600] I was proud of because I was terrible
[01:21:45.600 -> 01:21:52.560] at commentary. Commentary is so hard but well there I go, Rankin dropping the bomb on David
[01:21:52.560 -> 01:21:59.520] Croft there. Christina, who missed the apex for you? For me it's that barrier and the camera angle
[01:22:00.400 -> 01:22:06.480] going down the main straight into turn one. I don't know who allowed that camera to be set up that way.
[01:22:06.480 -> 01:22:11.040] I don't know how, with three practice sessions and qualifying, they still kept that camera
[01:22:11.040 -> 01:22:14.520] there for the race and how they kept using it.
[01:22:14.520 -> 01:22:20.400] It would follow the cars down the main straight and then keep following them when they disappeared
[01:22:20.400 -> 01:22:24.720] underneath behind this little wall.
[01:22:24.720 -> 01:22:25.880] Just cut to another camera angle.
[01:22:25.880 -> 01:22:28.360] You have hundreds of cameras on this track.
[01:22:28.360 -> 01:22:30.240] Just make the switch earlier.
[01:22:30.240 -> 01:22:33.120] I don't need to see for like a good two seconds,
[01:22:33.120 -> 01:22:35.720] just the little camera mounts bobbing up and down.
[01:22:36.640 -> 01:22:38.720] That's not necessary for my enjoyment of this race.
[01:22:38.720 -> 01:22:41.280] A lot of people were criticizing the broadcast.
[01:22:41.280 -> 01:22:43.040] And it's hard to keep track of stuff,
[01:22:43.040 -> 01:22:50.000] but it just felt like you go, this is Montreal Montreal we've seen better camera angles in the past we've seen this race come to life
[01:22:50.000 -> 01:22:56.400] better in the past. Exactly. All right Matt Trumpets I know you can barely say a crossed
[01:22:56.400 -> 01:23:07.480] word ever you're just not that kind of guy unless. Me, clouds, yo, never. Okay, but, you know, given that you're old and cranky, could you try, could you try and
[01:23:07.480 -> 01:23:10.120] find something negative?
[01:23:10.120 -> 01:23:12.160] Who missed the apex for you?
[01:23:12.160 -> 01:23:17.200] I'm really frustrated, because I had mine all lined up and it was guaranteed to enrage
[01:23:17.200 -> 01:23:18.200] everybody.
[01:23:18.200 -> 01:23:19.200] Yeah.
[01:23:19.200 -> 01:23:23.240] But then you've mentioned the TV and that made me think about the CCTV issue in Free
[01:23:23.240 -> 01:23:25.360] Practice 1 also possibly being a
[01:23:25.360 -> 01:23:26.360] missed apex.
[01:23:26.360 -> 01:23:30.000] Because like, if I'm in the FIA, how do I not have a backup worked out with Evelyn
[01:23:30.000 -> 01:23:32.400] who brings cameras to every single race?
[01:23:32.400 -> 01:23:37.360] But I'm going to take a deep breath, count to 10 backwards, and I'm going to tell you
[01:23:37.360 -> 01:23:40.000] who really missed the apex in this race.
[01:23:40.000 -> 01:23:41.800] Orlando Norris.
[01:23:41.800 -> 01:23:43.000] Why?
[01:23:43.000 -> 01:23:44.000] Do you recall?
[01:23:44.000 -> 01:23:45.280] No. Norris being behind? Do you recall? No.
[01:23:45.280 -> 01:23:47.360] Norris being behind Piastri.
[01:23:47.360 -> 01:23:48.440] Yes.
[01:23:48.440 -> 01:23:55.040] And then dive bombing him into turn 10 with a five second penalty hanging off of his rear
[01:23:55.040 -> 01:23:56.040] wing.
[01:23:56.040 -> 01:23:57.040] Yeah.
[01:23:57.040 -> 01:24:06.160] And that wound up putting McLaren, I believe, entirely out of the points because otherwise it would have been Piastri up there
[01:24:06.160 -> 01:24:12.080] chasing Ocon and finishing either in ninth or if Stroll managed to get past Bottas and
[01:24:12.080 -> 01:24:13.540] Piastri, 10th.
[01:24:13.540 -> 01:24:19.920] So yeah, I'm going to say that Norris's selfish behavior trying to get ahead of his five second
[01:24:19.920 -> 01:24:25.760] penalty and still be in the points cost his team their only shot this weekend after he
[01:24:25.760 -> 01:24:30.560] was penalized for his unsportsmanlike behavior.
[01:24:30.560 -> 01:24:32.840] And I'm going to give my missed apex award.
[01:24:32.840 -> 01:24:33.840] Wow.
[01:24:33.840 -> 01:24:35.720] No one picked Ferrari's strategy team.
[01:24:35.720 -> 01:24:36.720] Oh my God.
[01:24:36.720 -> 01:24:47.660] So like they got the broad race strategy correct, but for Saturday alone, obviously they have to get the missed apex award. Carlos
[01:24:47.660 -> 01:24:54.740] Sainz blocking Ocon in the most dangerous way possible at the end of a fast lap. Having
[01:24:54.740 -> 01:24:59.020] actually, if you look at Sainz's qualifying lap, they had him in traffic and they had
[01:24:59.020 -> 01:25:05.920] him in terrible situations nearly entirely through Saturday, Matt. Joey, like, if you actually were keeping an eye on signs,
[01:25:05.920 -> 01:25:10.920] he was the victim much more than he was the perpetrator.
[01:25:11.120 -> 01:25:14.120] And of course, Ferrari completely blowing it
[01:25:14.120 -> 01:25:17.640] on getting Leclerc kicked out in Q2.
[01:25:17.640 -> 01:25:19.480] So yeah, thank you to everyone
[01:25:19.480 -> 01:25:21.920] for not picking Ferrari ahead of me.
[01:25:21.920 -> 01:25:23.040] You're welcome.
[01:25:23.040 -> 01:25:24.760] And I think it was Gasly, but yeah,
[01:25:24.760 -> 01:25:26.360] they were shocking on Saturday. Oh, sorry, Gas me. You're welcome. And I think it was Gasly, but yeah, they were shocking on Saturday.
[01:25:26.360 -> 01:25:27.360] Oh, sorry.
[01:25:27.360 -> 01:25:28.360] On Sunday.
[01:25:28.360 -> 01:25:34.120] And just like, I don't know, I went with the broken clock thing, but I guess they were
[01:25:34.120 -> 01:25:37.080] normal on Sunday.
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[01:26:21.440 -> 01:27:01.000] be kind, and have fun. This was MrApexPodcast. Comment of the week. I don't know why the sound isn't happening on that, Matt, but I
[01:27:01.000 -> 01:27:06.640] think I actually sung that as well as my wife sings it. So I think no one will notice the difference
[01:27:06.960 -> 01:27:08.960] So do I do it again?
[01:27:09.000 -> 01:27:15.200] Do you sound exactly like your wife? I have to do it more of a cockney don't I comment of the way?
[01:27:15.840 -> 01:27:21.960] In it and now that was that no one will know that wasn't Nick so that we're good there
[01:27:21.960 -> 01:27:25.320] But given that I will never be welcome in your home again.
[01:27:25.320 -> 01:27:31.920] Given that it's 10 past midnight in the UK, please keep it to a few nominations for comment
[01:27:31.920 -> 01:27:32.920] of the week.
[01:27:32.920 -> 01:27:33.920] Christina, are you still with us?
[01:27:33.920 -> 01:27:34.920] Be our judge.
[01:27:34.920 -> 01:27:35.920] Yeah.
[01:27:35.920 -> 01:27:36.920] You pick comment of the week.
[01:27:36.920 -> 01:27:37.920] You're the judge.
[01:27:37.920 -> 01:27:38.920] Go.
[01:27:38.920 -> 01:27:39.920] Here we go.
[01:27:39.920 -> 01:27:40.920] Okay.
[01:27:40.920 -> 01:27:41.920] We're going to start with Mia F1.
[01:27:41.920 -> 01:27:45.680] The clerk should have signs on his pit wall and vice versa.
[01:27:46.240 -> 01:27:51.920] Oh, just just like, yeah, they only drive like just have either Leclerc or signs and swap them
[01:27:51.920 -> 01:27:57.520] and then make Xavi drive the car. That sounds like a plan. I don't see. I genuinely don't
[01:27:57.520 -> 01:28:03.120] see how that could be worse. So that's fine. Patty is in with turning Ferrari around is
[01:28:03.120 -> 01:28:06.240] going to be like when you have to talk a parent through how to fix their
[01:28:06.240 -> 01:28:11.320] Computer over the phone. Oh my god. He's like that and I've had to do that so much
[01:28:11.320 -> 01:28:18.300] No, mom like no the mouse is the no, it's not. No, you don't have to type LOAD anymore
[01:28:18.300 -> 01:28:21.380] No, there's no there's no cassette anymore. It's fine
[01:28:21.380 -> 01:28:25.940] I don't want to double down but he added added, quote, It says Windows 3.1
[01:28:25.940 -> 01:28:27.780] has updates, but I've been ignoring
[01:28:27.780 -> 01:28:28.280] it.
[01:28:28.280 -> 01:28:30.640] 3.1 was the best version,
[01:28:30.720 -> 01:28:31.520] to be fair.
[01:28:31.520 -> 01:28:33.720] Minesweeper, that was the peak.
[01:28:34.760 -> 01:28:36.800] Martin Weinantz is in with Aston
[01:28:36.800 -> 01:28:38.680] ditched the Merc philosophy before
[01:28:38.680 -> 01:28:39.840] Merc themselves.
[01:28:40.000 -> 01:28:41.240] Now, maybe, yeah, they copied
[01:28:41.240 -> 01:28:43.220] Red Bull. That's maybe what Mercedes
[01:28:43.220 -> 01:28:43.720] should do.
[01:28:44.320 -> 01:28:47.680] Maybe indeed. And finally, we'll end with Connie Stewart, who said
[01:28:47.680 -> 01:28:53.360] Lando is so frustrated he wishes he signed a long-term contract with Ferrari.
[01:28:53.360 -> 01:28:58.160] He looked so happy, didn't he? He looked so happy when he signed that long-term deal. Him and Le
[01:28:58.160 -> 01:29:02.640] Clercq signing on the paper. They looked amazing. Right. Is that all the candidates?
[01:29:02.640 -> 01:29:03.680] That's all the candidates.
[01:29:03.680 -> 01:29:09.040] Christina, who wins Comment of the Week? I have to give it to the computer one.
[01:29:09.600 -> 01:29:14.800] That would be Patti, for turning Ferrari around is going to be like when you have to talk a parent
[01:29:14.800 -> 01:29:21.280] through how to fix their computer over the phone. Well done, Patti. Oh, it's not playing. Comment of
[01:29:21.280 -> 01:29:27.000] the Week! That actually, that goes out literally on the YouTube and to the patrons.
[01:29:27.000 -> 01:29:29.000] So I hope you appreciate that.
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