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No, you read that right - Sergio Perez did win the 2022 Austrian Grand Prix for Ferrari; at least if the television graphics operator is to be believed. But this wasn't the only error to laugh off from the weekend - remember the Vettel-gate, physio-gate & then track limits?
The FIA, Race Control & the Stewards - definitely topped our Eight Sleep list of race performers! And guess what, our dearest @f1statsguru (aka Sundaram) made it to this list, too. His awesome stat on Lando Norris was read-out on the global Formula 1 feed by Crofty aka David Croft!
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In this episode of the Inside Line F1 Podcast, Soumil and Kunal review the 2022 Austrian Grand Prix - Charles Leclerc's stupendous win (finally!). But why did Red Bull Racing struggle at their home venue? And reliability continues to play a part in this year's title battle - could Carlos Sainz have scored a 1-2 for Ferrari?
@f1statsguru hosts his stats review segment - a fantastic stat on Mick & Michael Schumacher; lots to tune in for!
(Season 2022, Episode 41)
Follow our hosts: Sundaram Ramaswami, Soumil Arora and Kunal Shah
Image courtesy: Ferrari
Here's a summary of the Inside Line F1 Podcast episode reviewing the 2022 Austrian Grand Prix:
**Race Review:**
* Charles Leclerc secured a dominant win for Ferrari, ending his five-race winless streak.
* Red Bull faced tire management issues and struggled to match Ferrari's pace.
* Max Verstappen pitted early for a two-stop strategy, prompting others to follow suit.
* Ferrari maintained their strategy and tire management, allowing Leclerc to control the race.
* Carlos Sainz retired due to a power unit issue, costing Ferrari a potential 1-2 finish.
* Sergio Perez recovered from a grid penalty to finish fifth, gaining valuable points for Red Bull.
**Race Performers:**
* Fernando Alonso impressed with a recovery drive from the back of the grid to finish in the points.
* Mick Schumacher continued his strong form, scoring points in consecutive races for the first time.
* Valtteri Bottas' five-race podium streak in Austria came to an end with an 11th-place finish.
**Controversies and Insights:**
* The FIA faced criticism for excessive fines, track limits penalties, and their handling of the Sebastian Vettel jewelry ban.
* Vettel expressed frustration with the FIA's treatment, leading to speculation about his future in Formula One.
* The sprint race format provided exciting wheel-to-wheel action, including a five-car battle for position.
**Overall Takeaway:**
Ferrari demonstrated their potential to challenge Red Bull for the championship, but reliability concerns remain a factor. The midfield battle continues to heat up, with Haas and McLaren showing strong performances. The FIA's actions and decisions continue to draw scrutiny and debate within the Formula One community.
# Inside Line F1 Podcast Episode 41: 2022 Austrian Grand Prix Review
## Introduction:
- The podcast begins with a discussion about the various errors that occurred during the Austrian Grand Prix weekend, including the misidentification of Sergio Perez as the race winner and the confusion surrounding track limits.
- The hosts highlight the FIA, Race Control, and the Stewards as the top performers of the race, with a special mention to Sundaram Ramaswami (@f1statsguru) for his insightful stat on Lando Norris that was featured on the global Formula 1 feed.
## Race Review:
- The hosts review the Austrian Grand Prix, focusing on Charles Leclerc's dominant victory for Ferrari.
- They discuss Red Bull Racing's struggles at their home venue and speculate on whether Carlos Sainz could have secured a 1-2 finish for Ferrari if not for reliability issues.
- Sundaram Ramaswami presents his stats segment, including an intriguing comparison between Mick and Michael Schumacher.
## Mercedes' Performance:
- The hosts analyze Mercedes' performance at the Austrian Grand Prix, noting their impressive podium finish with Lewis Hamilton despite a challenging qualifying session and early-race incidents.
- They discuss the team's current position in the Constructors' Championship and the challenges they face in catching up to Ferrari and Red Bull.
- The hosts question whether the Austrian Grand Prix was a genuine step forward for Mercedes in terms of pace and look ahead to the French Grand Prix for further insights.
## Race Control Controversies:
- The hosts delve into the various controversies surrounding race control decisions, particularly the inconsistency in penalties for similar incidents involving Max Verstappen and Alex Albon.
- They highlight the challenges faced by race control in adjudicating wheel-to-wheel battles and the importance of finding a consistent approach.
- The hosts also discuss the incidents involving drivers being weighed after the race and the FIA's efforts to prevent potential loopholes.
## Track Limits Debate:
- The hosts engage in a discussion about track limits, emphasizing the challenges drivers face in staying within the white lines, especially at blind corners like Turn 10.
- They debate the merits of using gravel and grass as natural deterrents for exceeding track limits and acknowledge the difficulties in relying solely on slow-motion technology to determine penalties.
- The hosts express their hope that the FIA, drivers, and George Russell can find a solution to the track limits issue before the upcoming French Grand Prix.
## Conclusion:
- The hosts wrap up the podcast by expressing their excitement for the upcoming French Grand Prix and tease the preview episode that will provide more insights into the race.
- They encourage listeners to like, share, and leave comments on the podcast to support their efforts.
[00:00.000 -> 00:21.600] This is a message from the future.
[00:21.600 -> 00:25.560] It's the year 2035 and the FIA are on a deleting spree. If you
[00:25.560 -> 00:30.760] can hear this right now, you're probably very lucky. But that's just what it is. The FIA
[00:30.760 -> 00:36.480] are going on deleting everything and this particular episode somehow has survived. Folks,
[00:36.480 -> 00:41.240] welcome to the Inside Line Empty Podcast. Welcome to this special Austrian GP review
[00:41.240 -> 00:45.760] episode over here. And my name is Somal Arora. I hope I have not been
[00:45.760 -> 00:49.920] deleted in the future considering the way FIA are going about the things and I'm joined by Kunal Shah
[00:49.920 -> 00:54.720] the former marketing host, marketing head I'm sorry of the Force India F1 team who also is an
[00:54.720 -> 00:59.840] FIA accredited F1 journalist. Have they deleted journalists at all in the future Kunal? What's
[00:59.840 -> 01:05.680] going on there? Maybe they're going to have bots replace us at some point or I don't know, but
[01:05.680 -> 01:14.320] oh my god, this was literally the 2022 lap time deleted Grand Prix in Austria, because I don't
[01:14.320 -> 01:18.560] know, I mean, you know, maybe they were just like, hey, it's summer, we need some more work, so why
[01:18.560 -> 01:26.400] don't we just go about and delete all the lap times we possibly can. There were 43 lap times deleted
[01:26.400 -> 01:30.000] from the 2022 Austrian Grand Prix.
[01:30.000 -> 01:32.480] I think the fun would have been if driver number 44
[01:32.480 -> 01:34.800] would have been the 44th lap time deleted
[01:34.800 -> 01:37.040] on lap number 44.
[01:38.880 -> 01:40.240] Oh yeah, oh wow.
[01:40.240 -> 01:43.180] And this is so much other stuff
[01:43.180 -> 01:44.880] that they got themselves involved into as well.
[01:44.880 -> 01:45.040] We should discuss it in more depth later Kunal, There's just so much other stuff that they got themselves involved into as well.
[01:45.040 -> 01:49.040] We should discuss it in more depth later, Kunal, but they were going on collecting fine
[01:49.040 -> 01:55.620] after fine, I think 20 grand euros that is, from Sebastian Vettel, 30,000 suspended fines
[01:55.620 -> 02:01.040] from the top three in terms of an infringement for their Parkfarm regulations with the physios
[02:01.040 -> 02:02.040] as well.
[02:02.040 -> 02:04.480] What is it, the FIR getting super rich this weekend?
[02:04.480 -> 02:06.740] Not that they actually got the money for the suspended fines but
[02:06.740 -> 02:13.460] fair enough it's it's a good earning. You know it's like last year the big joke
[02:13.460 -> 02:17.880] was when Max touched the DRS and there was a massive fine that they collected
[02:17.880 -> 02:21.580] and that was last year's target maybe this year's target is a little different
[02:21.580 -> 02:28.760] so 25,000 for Fetal which was, and then 10,000 each suspended for the top three drivers.
[02:28.760 -> 02:33.060] And yeah, of course, we will go in depth
[02:33.060 -> 02:37.560] about why the podium trial was sort of brought in
[02:37.560 -> 02:40.100] and they called it a Park Fomee infringement.
[02:40.100 -> 02:41.280] It's for future reasons.
[02:41.280 -> 02:43.640] There is a more serious footing for that as well.
[02:43.640 -> 02:45.120] But yeah, there was that.
[02:45.120 -> 02:50.880] And then I don't even know what's happened on the jewelry ban. You know, that suddenly has gone cold.
[02:51.440 -> 02:57.680] Neither Lewis nor the FIA are making any, you know, talks about it. But the worst of all,
[02:57.680 -> 03:07.680] Samuel, and I say the worst of all, was when the FIA labeled the most gentle manly role model driver ever in the recent history of
[03:07.680 -> 03:15.440] Formula One to be not a role model towards younger drivers. I mean, Sebastian Vettel,
[03:15.440 -> 03:21.200] can you imagine? They managed to piss off Sebastian Vettel, one of the probably seems
[03:21.200 -> 03:27.800] like the most tough driver to piss off. Something Astonston Martin does wrong he's like don't worry we'll come back they forget to put
[03:27.800 -> 03:31.920] a tire on his car yeah that's okay we'll put it the next race you know he just
[03:31.920 -> 03:36.760] seems so calm and collected and you know I don't know how could they manage to
[03:36.760 -> 03:40.200] piss off Sebastian Vettel maybe they need really need to stand in the mirror
[03:40.200 -> 03:45.320] and ask themselves that. I know I know know Kunal, maybe they were just dressing
[03:45.320 -> 03:48.820] up like Maurizio Ribbene and maybe they were just showing him pictures of the
[03:48.820 -> 03:53.400] old 2017-2018 Ferrari because that's like the most logical thing that
[03:53.400 -> 03:56.160] can piss off Sebastian Vettel at this stage but I think he even might be
[03:56.160 -> 03:59.800] beyond that so it's absurd how it's gone but it's really put his weekend on a
[03:59.800 -> 04:03.240] pear-shaped trajectory because after that he did end up becoming the Vettel
[04:03.240 -> 04:05.040] of 2019-20, not
[04:05.040 -> 04:09.600] by choice, there were accidents that happened but there was also really some great stuff
[04:09.600 -> 04:13.920] that happened otherwise and we should talk about that but first we have to take a small
[04:13.920 -> 04:14.920] break.
[04:14.920 -> 04:15.920] We'll be back.
[04:15.920 -> 04:21.800] Hey folks, welcome back into the InsideLineF1 podcast.
[04:21.800 -> 04:27.320] We were on the subject of Sebastian Vettel and how the FIA have actually incidentally managed to piss him off.
[04:27.320 -> 04:33.720] That's something absurd, but before we discuss more of it in depth, we should talk about
[04:33.720 -> 04:35.520] the bigger issues.
[04:35.520 -> 04:41.400] Leclerc finally getting a win, 5 races later, and I couldn't believe the fact that it was
[04:41.400 -> 04:43.240] Australia when he got his last win.
[04:43.240 -> 04:46.680] These 5 races have flown past, but in terms of points he's dropped so much,
[04:47.040 -> 04:50.080] finally, there is some momentum, but it's not without drama.
[04:50.080 -> 04:53.120] It's like Ferrari get either strategy or reliability on one day.
[04:54.840 -> 04:58.320] Thankfully for Leclerc, he actually had both in Austria.
[04:58.680 -> 05:03.440] Although the last few laps, he would have probably wondered if he had any reliability going his way.
[05:03.920 -> 05:09.920] And, you know, Charles Leclerc entered July saying, I need to make this month count.
[05:09.920 -> 05:13.720] Four Grand Prix's out of which two are done, and
[05:13.720 -> 05:18.640] one sprint out of which the sprint is done as well, and he is trying to make it count.
[05:18.640 -> 05:21.520] Of course, he would have loved to win in Silverstone and
[05:21.520 -> 05:31.040] then get lots of points back against Max Verstappen. But, you know, all the overtaking that he couldn't do in those last five races.
[05:31.160 -> 05:31.660] Okay.
[05:32.000 -> 05:36.480] In fact, in all the races in 2022, I would say he managed to do all that
[05:36.480 -> 05:40.440] overtaking against Max Verstappen in Austria itself.
[05:40.920 -> 05:47.920] Three times, Samuel, three times we saw Leclerc overtake Max Verstappen for the lead
[05:47.920 -> 05:52.880] of the Grand Prix and I think that was pretty fantastic. It was almost as if he wanted to take
[05:52.880 -> 05:57.760] out all the vengeance like come on you pass me here now you get it back you pass me there now
[05:57.760 -> 06:03.520] you get one for this one but it's amazing how that happened and we are going to talk about more on why
[06:03.520 -> 06:05.600] Ferrari just were better this weekend
[06:05.600 -> 06:09.600] and what really happened with the Clerk's throttle that's also a major point of discussion but
[06:09.600 -> 06:14.160] we should do that in a second but we've actually not quite brought in one of our favourite segments
[06:14.160 -> 06:18.400] so far on the podcast which is rating the race and this time Kunal we've also got to talk about
[06:18.400 -> 06:23.200] the sprint race because in general it seemed like we had more action on the weekend of course the
[06:23.200 -> 06:25.620] desired consequence of bringing the sprint race in.
[06:25.620 -> 06:26.980] How would you rate it?
[06:26.980 -> 06:29.380] Now, for the sprint, I'll go first.
[06:29.380 -> 06:30.620] I have to go for an eight.
[06:30.620 -> 06:31.620] It was tremendous.
[06:31.620 -> 06:34.500] We got to see Mick Schumacher fighting and that's more like it.
[06:34.500 -> 06:38.420] But in the race as well, I had a friend come over and he was pretty happy about that.
[06:38.420 -> 06:39.420] A new Formula One fan.
[06:39.420 -> 06:40.420] He said, yeah, this is fun.
[06:40.420 -> 06:41.580] A good way to spend two hours.
[06:41.580 -> 06:46.320] So can't be a bad thing to give them a 7 on 10. It is a decent
[06:46.320 -> 06:53.840] show in the end. I was going to give 11 on 10 for the sprint and 12 on 10 for the Grand Prix. I mean
[06:53.840 -> 06:58.720] I'm very generous sometimes this is one of those Mondays that I'm really generous. I think the
[06:58.720 -> 07:03.680] sprint was fun because we had the Ferraris fighting they were allowed to fight and then
[07:03.680 -> 07:05.760] like you said you know Mick Schumacher,
[07:05.760 -> 07:08.960] he was told to hold station behind Kevin Magnussen,
[07:08.960 -> 07:10.000] so he was really pissed.
[07:10.000 -> 07:13.440] And there was Schumacher versus Hamilton, and that was fun, you know,
[07:13.440 -> 07:15.680] watching Hamilton pull off all those moves.
[07:15.680 -> 07:18.880] And then how can we forget, you know, Sergio Perez,
[07:18.880 -> 07:24.160] he has almost made it a certain that every few Grand Prix guys,
[07:24.160 -> 07:26.700] I will start at the back and I
[07:26.700 -> 07:30.880] will have a recovery drive and I will tell all you guys why I deserve the
[07:30.880 -> 07:34.860] number two seat even though I have a two-year extension you know and it was
[07:34.860 -> 07:39.120] unfortunate whatever happened to Perez on race day on Sunday with George
[07:39.120 -> 07:43.580] Russell but I guess turn for number two Red Bull driver we have to expect
[07:43.580 -> 07:45.300] something every time we
[07:45.300 -> 07:50.040] come to Austria-Sommerl that just seems natural to be you know anymore
[07:50.040 -> 07:53.280] Albin has gone through it Perez went through it and Perez went through it
[07:53.280 -> 07:58.000] again and of course it was a Mercedes driver there itself. You're actually
[07:58.000 -> 08:03.320] right about that it's happened so many times now maybe it's just a particular
[08:03.320 -> 08:06.280] connection with the number two Red Bull car in that particular corner.
[08:06.280 -> 08:09.040] And we were so crazed about it, we actually
[08:09.040 -> 08:11.680] ended up calling the podcast the Outside Line of Phone Podcast
[08:11.680 -> 08:13.560] last year, because there were so many incidents
[08:13.560 -> 08:14.720] at that particular corner.
[08:14.720 -> 08:16.880] But luckily, the one big incident
[08:16.880 -> 08:20.720] that was able to be, of course, that was clean at the end,
[08:20.720 -> 08:23.120] I'm trying to articulate it in the best way possible,
[08:23.120 -> 08:28.480] was the battle between Schumacher and Hamilton. And was the reason why we raped the sprint so highly.
[08:28.480 -> 08:33.840] And Kunal, yes Mick got passed, yes Kevin should have helped him out, whatever happened,
[08:33.840 -> 08:38.840] happened, but the fact is, his positioning of the car in the sprint race, that was just
[08:38.840 -> 08:43.440] immaculate because indeed he did have the assistance of the DRS many times, but he just
[08:43.440 -> 08:48.320] was forcing Hamilton to go on the outside. And when you've seen what can happen over there, especially Hamilton,
[08:48.320 -> 08:52.640] because of course he had that crash with Alex Albon back in the day, he would be more conscious
[08:52.640 -> 08:57.040] of that. And that consistently made sure that Mick was ahead. That's very smart driving. It's
[08:57.040 -> 09:02.720] like he's come out of his shell. It literally seems that, you know, like I tweeted, it became
[09:02.720 -> 09:06.800] a very popular tweet. It was like Mick has engaged Michael Moore, you know, like I tweeted, and it became a very popular tweet. It was like, Mick has engaged Michael Moore, you know?
[09:06.800 -> 09:09.640] He scored in Silverstone, his first points.
[09:09.640 -> 09:12.440] He would have, he should have scored in the sprint.
[09:12.440 -> 09:15.520] And then he would have also scored in the Grand Prix.
[09:15.520 -> 09:17.520] So he would have literally gone from having no points
[09:17.520 -> 09:20.280] for almost 30 races to having consecutive points
[09:20.280 -> 09:22.640] in three times they've gone racing.
[09:22.640 -> 09:26.320] And yes, you know, he was positioning his car very well.
[09:26.320 -> 09:28.440] He battled Max Verstappen,
[09:28.440 -> 09:30.320] the reigning world champion in Silverstone.
[09:30.320 -> 09:32.160] He battled Lewis Hamilton,
[09:32.160 -> 09:34.400] a seven times world champion in Austria.
[09:34.400 -> 09:37.980] And I think that will do fantastic for his prospects.
[09:38.960 -> 09:40.400] And Haas in itself,
[09:40.400 -> 09:46.980] I mean, just having two races back to back in the points is pretty fantastic
[09:46.980 -> 09:51.600] But to me Samuel, you know, I don't mean to take away from what we should talk about
[09:51.600 -> 09:55.380] Which is the eight sleep performers of the race for me
[09:55.820 -> 10:00.840] Mick Schumacher was the eight sleep performer through the entire weekend. You know, he was great in qualifying
[10:00.980 -> 10:09.720] He was great in the sprint and then he was fantastic in the race yesterday itself. Yeah and the fact that he was faster than Kevin Magnuson
[10:09.720 -> 10:13.900] also is a big testament to his ability and that his confidence seems to be back.
[10:13.900 -> 10:18.420] Now I know part of it is down to the fact that Kevin Magnuson's engine
[10:18.420 -> 10:21.980] wasn't quite functioning at 100% towards the end but Mick was able to
[10:21.980 -> 10:26.360] capitalize on everything he got and yes yes, you will be saying, why are you
[10:26.360 -> 10:28.600] making this a Mick Schumacher bandwagon podcast?
[10:28.600 -> 10:29.480] We just love him.
[10:29.480 -> 10:30.280] He's just very nice.
[10:30.280 -> 10:32.360] But apart from Mick as well, good point,
[10:32.360 -> 10:34.520] we have other drivers to talk about as well in terms
[10:34.520 -> 10:36.520] of the eight sleep performance of the weekend.
[10:36.520 -> 10:40.680] And I, Kunal, for one reason, cannot look beyond Fernando
[10:40.680 -> 10:43.440] Alonso and the finger wag of doom.
[10:43.440 -> 10:44.680] That for Yuki Tsunoda.
[10:44.680 -> 10:49.240] I think there's been a word of a new psychologist coming along for Yuki Tsunoda, maybe to help
[10:49.240 -> 10:50.920] him out and maybe calm him down.
[10:50.920 -> 10:55.600] I think that new psychologist is nobody else apart from Fernando Alonso, his old idol himself,
[10:55.600 -> 11:01.360] because while overtaking him at around 300 on the grass, Alonso wags his finger.
[11:01.360 -> 11:02.360] This guy.
[11:02.360 -> 11:05.360] But that's not the only reason why i'm mentioning him over here in general
[11:05.360 -> 11:10.240] as well his driving was fantastic when he got the chance to he almost could have finished eighth or
[11:10.240 -> 11:15.440] sixth perhaps starting from the back of the grid so that's very fernando alonso-esque of course
[11:15.440 -> 11:19.600] after going on the grass and not losing any speed at all which is again something miraculous that
[11:19.600 -> 11:25.280] only he can do this is why you know when yuki Sonoda said Fernando Alonso is one of
[11:25.280 -> 11:30.640] his idols he probably missed that famous interview where Fernando Alonso said
[11:30.640 -> 11:37.080] that you have to leave the space all the time you have to leave the space right
[11:37.080 -> 11:40.600] but to be honest you know what the younger Fernando would have probably
[11:40.600 -> 11:48.640] chosen another finger to wag at Yuki Sanoda. It was the statesman like Fernando saying, no, no, no, boy, you can't do that.
[11:48.640 -> 11:52.740] But, you know, it was, it was great to see Fernando do what he did.
[11:52.740 -> 11:59.360] He overtook Valtteri Bottas for 10th on the last lap of the race, which I think was pretty fantastic.
[11:59.360 -> 12:06.480] He overtook, he was P12 or something, and then he overtook P11 and P10, finished P10 eventually.
[12:06.480 -> 12:09.500] And this is despite having two major issues on the weekend.
[12:09.500 -> 12:13.200] In sprint, his car refused to start, right?
[12:13.200 -> 12:15.280] He had an electronics issue.
[12:15.280 -> 12:16.720] They brought an external battery
[12:16.720 -> 12:19.180] and even with that, it refused to start.
[12:19.180 -> 12:20.440] So he was literally relegated
[12:20.440 -> 12:22.160] to the back of the grid on Sunday.
[12:22.160 -> 12:24.600] And then on Sunday, under the VSC,
[12:24.600 -> 12:26.680] he actually pitted two laps in succession
[12:26.680 -> 12:28.480] because the first time he pitted,
[12:28.480 -> 12:30.400] he actually felt different vibrations,
[12:30.400 -> 12:33.240] which he probably didn't feel through the race.
[12:33.240 -> 12:34.840] So he came back in again.
[12:34.840 -> 12:38.400] And despite that, he actually went ahead
[12:38.400 -> 12:39.640] and finished in the points.
[12:39.640 -> 12:42.000] So Fernando Alonso, the statesman,
[12:42.000 -> 12:45.000] the dude who literally
[12:45.480 -> 12:49.280] is making racing and Formula One and Alpine just so much fun.
[12:49.280 -> 12:52.400] I mean, yes, Ocon has been getting the big results
[12:52.400 -> 12:55.720] and so on, but Fernando is Fernando after a point, you know?
[12:56.800 -> 12:57.640] Yeah, exactly.
[12:57.640 -> 13:00.000] And there was also great footage of him
[13:00.000 -> 13:02.980] constantly driving over his grid slot in FP2 as well,
[13:02.980 -> 13:09.580] so that he could put in more rubber onto his grid slot for the sprint race. That was one thing. And I suppose there's this
[13:09.580 -> 13:13.740] theory going around that Alonso said that the tyres were fine after his first watch
[13:13.740 -> 13:18.560] pit stop because he wanted to dodge a penalty from the FIA, a black flag with orange discs,
[13:18.560 -> 13:22.620] that one. So I don't know if that's true or not, but if it is, I wouldn't be surprised
[13:22.620 -> 13:28.820] because it's Fernando Alonso after all. But his finger wag canal or the five, not five wide, but the five car battle
[13:28.820 -> 13:34.360] that we had with the two horses, one Alfa Romeo and one McLaren and Alonso in the middle,
[13:34.360 -> 13:38.220] obviously, was that the favorite moment of the race for you or was it the Alonso finger
[13:38.220 -> 13:43.460] wag? Oh, it has to be the five cars going into one. I mean, you know, Baku, which was
[13:43.460 -> 13:45.520] a few races ago, started to give us three cars going into one. I mean you know Baku which was a few races ago started to give us
[13:45.520 -> 13:49.920] three cars going into one corner and we were all like oh my god you know this is so
[13:49.920 -> 13:57.520] on formula one like. Suddenly we've got five cars going into one corner right and the mix of
[13:57.520 -> 14:02.480] the cars is the is the interesting part. There were two Haases last year they were nowhere. There was
[14:02.480 -> 14:05.600] one Alfa Romeo last year they were nowhere itself. There one Alfa Romeo. Last year they were nowhere itself.
[14:05.600 -> 14:10.880] There was a McLaren and then there was an Alpine and guess what? McLaren and Alpine now are
[14:11.600 -> 14:17.280] tied for fourth position in the Constructors' Championship. So it just shows
[14:17.280 -> 14:23.040] the rules reset has helped newer teams come into the mix and of course hence the
[14:23.040 -> 14:26.720] 2022 rules are allowing cars and drivers to
[14:26.720 -> 14:32.400] sort of follow each other closer and make for some very exciting wheel-to-wheel action. I mean
[14:32.960 -> 14:37.440] you know yes on one hand we had Leclerc overtake Verstappen as though Verstappen almost didn't
[14:37.440 -> 14:46.240] exist on track or was probably driving the Toro Rosso from the past. But to watch that five into one
[14:46.240 -> 14:49.040] was pretty fantastic for me, Samuel.
[14:49.040 -> 14:51.280] And we are talking of the Haases
[14:51.280 -> 14:54.000] and courtesy our dear friend F1StatsGuru
[14:54.000 -> 14:57.840] who has become world famous after Crofty
[14:57.840 -> 15:01.060] read out his Lando Norris stat on the world feed
[15:01.060 -> 15:03.560] and especially on Sky Sports F1, right?
[15:03.560 -> 15:06.960] So F1StatsGuru stats guru aka Sundaram has given
[15:06.960 -> 15:12.320] two very interesting stats on Haas which I'm going to read out so Haas now have more points in the
[15:12.320 -> 15:20.400] first 11 races of 2022 they have 34 points than they did in the last three seasons combined they
[15:20.400 -> 15:27.160] had 31 points combined in the last three seasons, right? And then the second stat is Haas has accumulated more points
[15:27.160 -> 15:29.840] in this double header, 19 points,
[15:29.840 -> 15:33.880] than McLaren, Aston Martin, Alpha Romeo,
[15:33.880 -> 15:36.440] Alpha Tauri and Williams combined.
[15:36.440 -> 15:37.800] So you add all those teams up,
[15:37.800 -> 15:42.120] they had 18 points compared to Haas having 19 points.
[15:42.120 -> 15:43.240] So there we go.
[15:43.240 -> 15:48.960] Thank you, Mr. F1 St stats guru. Now that is fantastic.
[15:48.960 -> 15:53.360] Sorry I took one from Will Buxton's playbook but another driver to talk about in terms of
[15:53.360 -> 15:57.680] the Aidsley performers who was absolutely fantastic and that put the straight face
[15:57.680 -> 16:02.160] was Charlotte Clerkenhal because as I mentioned at the top there was just this feeling going
[16:02.160 -> 16:10.480] around into the weekend that this might be it, this will be the one where finally Ferrari can deliver a punch to Red Bull and with their championship
[16:10.480 -> 16:16.560] challenger but as I mentioned not without drama just that throttle issue got us all so scared and
[16:16.560 -> 16:22.000] at the end we all just thought well are Ferrari going to lose to themselves once again but Leclerc
[16:22.000 -> 16:25.400] spot on all the way through. I was just wondering if he actually
[16:25.400 -> 16:27.400] had the pace so well and so early on,
[16:27.400 -> 16:29.700] just why didn't he get the job done in the sprint race?
[16:29.700 -> 16:31.200] He could have gotten an extra point.
[16:31.200 -> 16:33.580] And that, of course, is a very complacent question to ask,
[16:33.580 -> 16:36.360] because that means that we're just suddenly assuming
[16:36.360 -> 16:39.800] that Ferrari are by far and away the faster car at this stage,
[16:39.800 -> 16:42.120] but of course, could be very track specific.
[16:42.120 -> 16:48.160] To be actually Ferrari's pace, and even what we saw that Ferrari
[16:48.160 -> 16:55.360] being the quicker car was yes a little track specific but more so also conditions specific
[16:55.360 -> 17:00.560] I would say right because it's good to sort of dig into deep because it's the first time again
[17:00.560 -> 17:06.040] courtesy F1 Stats Guru, the first time Ferrari have actually won consecutive
[17:06.040 -> 17:09.480] races since Italy and Singapore 2019.
[17:09.480 -> 17:16.360] And the best stat, of course, is that the last time Ferrari won in Austria was back
[17:16.360 -> 17:19.660] in 2003 with Michael Schumacher, right?
[17:19.660 -> 17:21.200] But why don't we get into specifics?
[17:21.200 -> 17:22.200] Yes, Samuel?
[17:22.200 -> 17:24.800] That's the year I was born.
[17:24.800 -> 17:26.120] That's how far off it
[17:26.120 -> 17:32.040] was. Yes, so Ferrari hadn't won till you hit maturity and you became an adult. Yes, there
[17:32.040 -> 17:38.080] you go. Okay, so Samuel, let's actually, you know, stats aside, all the fun and the facts
[17:38.080 -> 17:45.120] aside, let's get into some specific questions. They've actually come on from F1StatsGuru, the Instagram page.
[17:48.720 -> 17:52.120] So first is what issues did Max Verstappen have? It's come from a handle which says Dave 2024.
[17:52.120 -> 17:53.800] So it's literally we're talking about the future.
[17:53.920 -> 17:58.680] Right. And then the second was, was Red Bull Racing at their peak?
[17:58.680 -> 18:00.560] And this has come from Sivansh Vora.
[18:00.680 -> 18:05.000] Right. So to me, the big issues that Red Bull Racing faced
[18:06.500 -> 18:08.920] was of tire management, right?
[18:08.920 -> 18:12.900] They in fact had the worst tire management of anybody
[18:12.900 -> 18:14.860] on the grid, let alone Ferrari,
[18:14.860 -> 18:17.060] which is why they reacted quickly.
[18:17.060 -> 18:19.260] And they said, okay, we are eating our tires up.
[18:19.260 -> 18:21.940] And this was when Max said the first time
[18:21.940 -> 18:24.920] when Charles sort of closed in on him,
[18:24.920 -> 18:26.080] when Max turned around and said, I can't hold him back for so long. And that's when they said, first time when Charles sort of closed in on him, when Max turned around and said
[18:26.080 -> 18:30.960] I can't hold him back for so long and that's when they said you know what, let's just, we're burning
[18:30.960 -> 18:38.000] through our tires, let's just take as many tires as we can. So the big challenge was tire degradation.
[18:38.000 -> 18:43.600] Now we can ask why did they not face the issue on Saturday and why did they face the issue on Sunday
[18:43.600 -> 18:47.560] because in the sprint, Max didn't have any such problem.
[18:47.560 -> 18:51.720] So in the sprint, the conditions were different than we had overnight rain and
[18:51.720 -> 18:54.040] the conditions on Sunday were much cooler.
[18:54.040 -> 18:58.000] And that's probably what caught Red Bull Racing out.
[18:58.000 -> 19:02.320] So that's the key reason why we saw what we did.
[19:02.320 -> 19:07.680] And hence, yes, Ferrari were the quicker car but like I said a
[19:07.680 -> 19:14.240] little track specific but also a lot more conditions specific Somal. Yeah and this just means that as
[19:14.240 -> 19:18.480] we go on to other circuits as well the competitive balance could be changing and that's a good thing
[19:18.480 -> 19:23.840] for us because at a particular point in the race especially after Maxwin for a second stop it seemed
[19:23.840 -> 19:28.200] like the race was gone Red Bull were always on the back foot and we were now just wondering,
[19:28.200 -> 19:33.320] well, will Ferrari throw it up in their own way or will it happen somehow, somehow externally?
[19:33.320 -> 19:38.920] But they managed to hold on to their nerves only just at the end. That's a big important
[19:38.920 -> 19:42.920] point. But yeah, it always seemed like Max was on the back foot. It never seemed like
[19:42.920 -> 19:48.160] Max would be able to come out of that bubble of the two-stop strategy and of course he was kind of forced into that
[19:48.160 -> 19:52.400] early stop so it was never like he was on cycle as well. So always at the back foot,
[19:52.400 -> 19:58.720] the car never quite worked as well as it should have ideally. And the point that really frustrates
[19:58.720 -> 20:02.960] me and every other fan Kunal at the end was that we were kind of robbed of a good finish
[20:02.960 -> 20:25.720] because the clerk had that obvious throttle issue that he was complaining about and we all had our on Where did that pace go? I tried to read about it. I tried to look for some comments from Verstappen
[20:25.720 -> 20:28.040] and Red Bull Racing, but they haven't mentioned anything
[20:28.040 -> 20:28.640] specifically.
[20:28.640 -> 20:30.960] They're just saying, yeah, the pace was good at the end.
[20:30.960 -> 20:34.560] Yeah, well, the way they see it, at a race
[20:34.560 -> 20:36.640] when they had the worst degradation of probably
[20:36.640 -> 20:40.160] any of the teams, they still came home in second, right?
[20:40.160 -> 20:41.440] So it was damage limitation.
[20:41.440 -> 20:43.520] It was just getting points and adding points
[20:43.520 -> 20:45.760] to the driver's championship tally.
[20:45.760 -> 20:51.040] At the end of the day, Leclerc did very well to still drive around the problem.
[20:51.040 -> 20:53.280] They were matching very similar lap times as well.
[20:53.280 -> 20:58.080] And this just goes to show that Ferrari and Charles Leclerc had the upper hand.
[20:58.080 -> 21:04.320] And the issue that he had was the throttle was not going back to default position, right?
[21:04.320 -> 21:06.680] Which is why he started to lift and coast,
[21:06.680 -> 21:10.840] and which is why he was also seen shifting or downshifting
[21:10.840 -> 21:13.960] before entering corners much earlier than before.
[21:13.960 -> 21:15.760] But that then leads us to a question,
[21:15.760 -> 21:18.600] given Ferrari's reliability, would Sainz
[21:18.600 -> 21:23.160] have finished second had he not had the DNF?
[21:23.160 -> 21:26.000] And this is a question come from Max Atli 12.
[21:26.800 -> 21:33.600] My belief is that Ferrari had the pace to score a one-two finish and, you know, take more points
[21:33.600 -> 21:40.400] of Max Verstappen, but we all know how that eventually sort of turned out. And then Tanim99
[21:40.400 -> 21:45.960] has asked, why did everyone change to two stops? and the first reason was Max Verstappen
[21:45.960 -> 21:50.640] by pitting early and you know finding a video sorry finding a gap in the field
[21:50.640 -> 21:55.320] he realized that that's it I'm gonna go and do a two-stop and then everyone else
[21:55.320 -> 22:00.040] realized that maybe this is turning a race into two stops and I remember you
[22:00.040 -> 22:03.320] know there was this time when pretty much everybody else was pitting except
[22:03.320 -> 22:14.760] for Ferrari now historically this of course know, leads us to question, oh, my God, is this Ferrari always again just messing the tire strategy up?
[22:14.760 -> 22:16.320] But they knew what they were doing.
[22:16.680 -> 22:26.480] They knew that even if they were going to do a two stopper, they would still pit at their ideal pit windows rather than reacting to Max Verstappen. So
[22:26.480 -> 22:31.600] they probably knew early on that they had better tyre management and hence better tyre
[22:31.600 -> 22:37.200] performance to stick to their plans rather than keep reacting to Red Bull and Verstappen's
[22:37.200 -> 22:42.080] pit stop. Let's put it into a journal this one. It's one of those rare occasions when
[22:42.080 -> 22:45.760] Ferrari have got strategy right. It's a moment of celebration, guys.
[22:45.760 -> 22:48.360] Why aren't we speaking with a more excited tone?
[22:48.360 -> 22:51.200] It doesn't happen often, but it's good to see this.
[22:51.200 -> 22:54.320] But what was not good to see, Kunal, was Carlos Sainz's retirement.
[22:54.320 -> 22:58.080] Now, we have, of course, discussed this particular question about where he would have been, but
[22:58.080 -> 23:03.480] the way the car was parked awkwardly at that position with the marshals, let's say not
[23:03.480 -> 23:05.860] as quick as they normally were in situations
[23:05.860 -> 23:09.960] like this. Of course, it's a hilly situation, but the car catching itself on fire, the car
[23:09.960 -> 23:14.440] rolling backwards, the car, signs having to jump out of a moving car as well. It's just
[23:14.440 -> 23:19.840] Hollywood-esque stuff in a way, but not ideal. And that aside, the safety element aside,
[23:19.840 -> 23:23.800] it's just a Ferrari losing more points. And they're not there yet in terms of the constructors
[23:23.800 -> 23:27.260] championship because Perez orchestrated a wonderful recovery. He's got losing more points and they're not there yet in terms of the Constructors Championship because Perez orchestrated a wonderful recovery. He's
[23:27.260 -> 23:31.160] got far more points than Sainz did this weekend and it's all just by just getting
[23:31.160 -> 23:34.520] to the finish line. It's just terrible the way things are working. You know it's
[23:34.520 -> 23:40.600] very very surprising that we are halfway through 2022 and reliability is still a
[23:40.600 -> 23:45.000] very constant factor for the top two teams.
[23:45.080 -> 23:48.320] And I assume that it's going to be a continuing factor,
[23:48.320 -> 23:51.880] which is why the 38 points gap
[23:51.880 -> 23:55.320] that Max Verstappen has at the top
[23:55.320 -> 23:57.200] doesn't seem comfortable,
[23:57.200 -> 24:01.040] even though we've crossed halfway mark of the season,
[24:01.040 -> 24:03.080] because, hey, for all you know,
[24:03.080 -> 24:05.160] it could be Max's car that could have
[24:05.160 -> 24:06.320] the reliability issue.
[24:06.320 -> 24:10.120] I mean, you know, Perez had a reliability issue just a couple of races ago in Canada,
[24:10.120 -> 24:11.160] for example, right.
[24:11.360 -> 24:16.760] But the good part is that the title battle that we all want to make sure we all hope
[24:16.880 -> 24:21.800] that goes on till very late into the season seems like it is going to be that.
[24:21.800 -> 24:26.520] And all those talks about his signs in the battle, is it going to be Perez Verstappen, et cetera,
[24:26.520 -> 24:27.920] a couple of races like this, and we
[24:27.920 -> 24:32.040] know it's going to be Leclerc versus Verstappen, period.
[24:32.040 -> 24:33.400] Yep, unfortunately.
[24:33.400 -> 24:35.540] Let's hope that more competitors can join in.
[24:35.540 -> 24:40.840] But now, it's time for a newly, let's say,
[24:40.840 -> 24:42.400] no, what's the term I'm looking for?
[24:42.400 -> 24:44.520] A colleague, Sundaram, F1 stats crew,
[24:44.520 -> 24:48.480] who's just made it onto the Sky Global broadcast as canal mentioned a couple of minutes ago
[24:49.120 -> 24:53.440] He's beaming with pride over this last weekend and he's got some great stats to share with you
[24:53.520 -> 24:56.640] So it's time to listen in the stats review right now
[24:57.840 -> 25:03.280] Hey folks, it's time to do the stats review of the austrian grand prix. I'm sundaram also known as the f1 stats guru
[25:03.440 -> 25:05.520] Let's get straight into the numbers.
[25:05.520 -> 25:10.000] Charlotte Clerk won the race, his first win, in 8 races, which firmly puts Ferrari's
[25:10.000 -> 25:14.540] championship fight back on track. They of course do have a few reliability issues which
[25:14.540 -> 25:18.940] they have to iron out. But nevertheless, Ferrari have always seemed like title contenders
[25:18.940 -> 25:24.480] from the get-go this season, but strangely, they had not won two races in a row this year.
[25:24.480 -> 25:25.160] That's finally
[25:25.160 -> 25:29.440] done with Carlos Sainz winning the last time out in Great Britain and Charles Leclerc this
[25:29.440 -> 25:34.000] time, which means that Ferrari have taken their first back to back race wins in F1 since
[25:34.000 -> 25:40.300] Italy Singapore in 2019. Max Verstappen was the F1 sprint winner, but he was of no match
[25:40.300 -> 25:51.440] for Leclerc's pace in that Ferrari, which raises a question, how many times has the sprint winner actually won the main race on the Sunday? Just once in the 5 sprint weekends
[25:51.440 -> 25:56.740] so far. Verstappen however did finish P2 and now he has the second most podiums in the
[25:56.740 -> 26:02.560] hybrid era after Lewis Hamilton, he went past Valtteri Bottas' tally of 67 podiums this
[26:02.560 -> 26:05.560] weekend. Talking about Bottas, he had a brilliant streak
[26:05.560 -> 26:11.760] of 5 podiums in Austria but sadly came to an end after he finished P11. He must be gutted
[26:11.760 -> 26:16.080] that he's not scored in the last two races and he'll want to make a points comeback
[26:16.080 -> 26:19.000] very very soon. Lastly, let's talk about the person who's
[26:19.000 -> 26:23.800] been giving us some brilliant moments of racing in this doubleheader, Mick Schumacher. He
[26:23.800 -> 26:27.920] scored his first points in Silverstone and this time he scored his first points in Austria as
[26:27.920 -> 26:32.520] well finishing sixth after starting ninth. Coincidentally his father Michael
[26:32.520 -> 26:36.680] Schumacher also got his first points in Austria starting the race ninth and
[26:36.680 -> 26:41.800] finishing sixth. This was way back in 1997. Well that was the stats review of
[26:41.800 -> 26:47.620] the Austrian Grand Prix. There are many more stats from this exciting race, which you can definitely find on my
[26:47.620 -> 26:50.200] Instagram and Twitter under the name F1StatsGuru.
[26:50.200 -> 26:53.560] I'll see you guys later.
[26:53.560 -> 26:59.080] Welcome back in folks to the InsideLineF1 podcast and the last voice you heard was F1StatsGuru.
[26:59.080 -> 27:00.680] Do check him out on social media.
[27:00.680 -> 27:05.440] He's got this wonderful little video with this famous channel called the Lollipop F1 Comics, where
[27:05.440 -> 27:10.040] they've just discussed a really interesting stat about Hamilton
[27:10.040 -> 27:11.480] driving past the Hamilton Street.
[27:11.480 -> 27:13.360] And they've made a lovely little comic on that.
[27:13.360 -> 27:14.600] So feel free to check it out.
[27:14.600 -> 27:15.560] That's an amazing thing.
[27:15.560 -> 27:17.520] And both of them, great creators who
[27:17.520 -> 27:20.000] are just making F1 content at the top level.
[27:20.000 -> 27:21.480] And you should check that out.
[27:21.480 -> 27:23.520] But there's also another thing we
[27:23.520 -> 27:25.440] want to talk about on the podcast right now.
[27:25.440 -> 27:27.240] It's been, what, 20, 25 odd minutes?
[27:27.240 -> 27:29.640] And we haven't spoken about the third car on the podium
[27:29.640 -> 27:32.440] canal, which was Mercedes and Lewis Hamilton.
[27:32.440 -> 27:35.240] I never thought on Friday that this
[27:35.240 -> 27:38.320] would be the end scenario after the really tricky qualifying
[27:38.320 -> 27:39.480] session that they had.
[27:39.480 -> 27:41.360] And then on Saturday, Hamilton, of course,
[27:41.360 -> 27:43.080] tangling with a couple of drivers,
[27:43.080 -> 27:47.500] then making that big fight with Mick Schumacher that made the headlines all over the world.
[27:47.500 -> 27:52.360] It seemed like the most unlikely result, but correct me if I'm wrong, the best way to summarize
[27:52.360 -> 27:55.720] their weekend would be that they had the worst weekend possible, but the best result possible
[27:55.720 -> 27:56.720] at the end.
[27:56.720 -> 27:59.440] That's actually very spot on.
[27:59.440 -> 28:04.300] Question that I've received on Twitter several times was it something with the Mercedes cars
[28:04.300 -> 28:07.200] that both the drivers had a crash on Friday?
[28:07.200 -> 28:09.820] Well, the truth is they actually were quicker
[28:09.820 -> 28:11.960] than they expected, but they weren't quicker
[28:11.960 -> 28:13.800] than they would have wanted to be,
[28:13.800 -> 28:15.120] so they weren't able to take the fight.
[28:15.120 -> 28:18.500] So the drivers are just pushing a little too much
[28:18.500 -> 28:21.640] in an attempt to qualify higher up the grid on Friday,
[28:21.640 -> 28:23.320] which is why they had double crashes.
[28:23.320 -> 28:28.960] And like Dr. Wolf said, that yes yes they've actually found solutions to their problems but
[28:28.960 -> 28:32.160] they're still lacking two or three tenths and that's why they are not up
[28:32.160 -> 28:37.880] there fighting alongside the Red Bulls and the Ferraris I would say some will
[28:37.880 -> 28:42.320] but and Mercedes now you know are on a podium scoring streak they have actually
[28:42.320 -> 28:47.320] been on the podium four times in the last four races, which is fantastic.
[28:47.320 -> 28:51.120] Lewis has been on the podium in P3
[28:51.120 -> 28:53.800] for the last three consecutive races.
[28:53.800 -> 28:58.800] Three and four is their best race finishing result in 2022.
[28:59.980 -> 29:02.200] And I think they've scored that five times.
[29:02.200 -> 29:04.120] They are yet to score a top two finish.
[29:04.120 -> 29:05.600] So whenever that happens,
[29:05.600 -> 29:08.160] it's gonna be pretty epic for Mercedes
[29:08.160 -> 29:09.720] and for their drivers as well.
[29:09.720 -> 29:12.600] But overall, you know, they're in the space
[29:12.600 -> 29:14.400] where they end up being in no man's land
[29:14.400 -> 29:16.320] in most of the time in the races.
[29:16.320 -> 29:20.960] And, you know, they are like almost three and a half times
[29:20.960 -> 29:23.000] the points of McLaren,
[29:23.000 -> 29:29.160] but still close to 75 points away from Ferrari in P2.
[29:29.160 -> 29:31.720] So they're more or less going to settle for third place
[29:31.720 -> 29:35.040] in the Constructors' Championship in 2022,
[29:35.040 -> 29:38.920] unless they are able to begin a dominating streak at some point
[29:38.920 -> 29:40.840] of time later in the season.
[29:40.840 -> 29:43.320] And when you consider the gap that they have to Ferrari,
[29:43.320 -> 29:45.040] it's not like if they do get a
[29:45.040 -> 29:50.000] good upgrade, they may not be able to fight for P2 because it's very, very limited that
[29:50.000 -> 29:54.160] gap and I love the fact that they're consistently getting in the points, even though the car
[29:54.160 -> 29:57.720] might not be where they are. But the question that I really have in mind, Kunal, which I
[29:57.720 -> 30:02.360] don't think we'll be able to answer until France, is that was this genuinely a step
[30:02.360 -> 30:06.580] in the right direction in terms of pace? Because in qualifying, it seemed like it,
[30:06.580 -> 30:08.480] but we never quite got the chance to check it out
[30:08.480 -> 30:10.940] in the race because of course, Russell had his crash,
[30:10.940 -> 30:13.300] Hamilton was fighting back from the mid-pack,
[30:13.300 -> 30:15.920] and so we were never able to see them close enough
[30:15.920 -> 30:18.540] to get a representative idea of where they actually stood
[30:18.540 -> 30:19.620] in relation to each other.
[30:19.620 -> 30:22.340] So that's a fun fact to look out for in France.
[30:22.340 -> 30:24.860] Along with that, we also have to look at race control
[30:24.860 -> 30:29.600] because this is one incident that's been genuinely irritating me. Not to the extent
[30:29.600 -> 30:33.920] that it's ruining my night's sleep, of course, that would be terrible, but Verstappen's battle
[30:33.920 -> 30:40.080] versus Mick Schumacher in the UK at Silverstone, amazing stuff, absolutely killer stuff, the kind
[30:40.080 -> 30:44.480] of stuff that Formula 1 wants you to watch every day of the week. But at the same time, we had a
[30:44.480 -> 30:46.600] similar move with Alex Albon and Landon Norris.
[30:46.600 -> 30:49.440] Albon, of course, struggling with understeer on his car.
[30:49.440 -> 30:53.200] He wasn't as aggressive, let's put it that way, in the sprint race.
[30:53.200 -> 30:57.000] And then Landon Norris had to go wide over the other side of the sausage curves, and
[30:57.000 -> 30:58.040] then he rejoined.
[30:58.040 -> 31:00.320] But Albon got a five-second penalty for that.
[31:00.320 -> 31:02.400] Max didn't get anything for whatever he did in Silverstone.
[31:02.400 -> 31:04.240] So I'm no racing driver.
[31:04.240 -> 31:05.520] I'm no perfect judge of this.
[31:05.520 -> 31:07.800] I don't know what's black or what's white,
[31:07.800 -> 31:09.860] because it really isn't in the world of racing.
[31:09.860 -> 31:11.240] But it can't continue this way, right?
[31:11.240 -> 31:13.880] For two incidents that are so similar in nature.
[31:13.880 -> 31:14.840] So where's the line?
[31:14.840 -> 31:15.680] Where's the goalpost?
[31:15.680 -> 31:16.720] As Alex Albon said.
[31:18.020 -> 31:20.280] And that's the question that all the drivers
[31:20.280 -> 31:22.480] have actually been asking race control as well,
[31:22.480 -> 31:25.920] which is where the whole Friday briefing went out of hand.
[31:25.920 -> 31:27.920] And apparently Sebastian Vettel was like,
[31:27.920 -> 31:30.120] I've been doing these briefings for 15 years
[31:30.120 -> 31:30.960] and blah, blah, blah,
[31:30.960 -> 31:33.480] and things just spiraled out of control.
[31:33.480 -> 31:37.120] I'm hoping that they're able to find a solution that works
[31:37.120 -> 31:40.440] because yes, you know, with more racier cars
[31:40.440 -> 31:42.480] that are able to follow each other
[31:42.480 -> 31:45.000] with more rivalries up and down the grid.
[31:45.000 -> 31:50.000] This was going to be one of the areas that Formula One should have foreseen that yes,
[31:50.000 -> 31:55.000] adjudicating wheel to wheel battles and calling fairness, unfairness, etc.
[31:55.000 -> 32:01.000] is only going to get that much, you know, it's only there's only that much more load on them.
[32:01.000 -> 32:07.300] Right. And, you know, but hats off. I mean, the FIA were like we said at the start of the episode,
[32:07.300 -> 32:09.300] you know, one of the A3 performers of the race,
[32:09.300 -> 32:12.720] because yes, they're consistently inconsistent.
[32:12.720 -> 32:14.060] It takes a lot to do that.
[32:14.060 -> 32:16.180] And then we spoke about all the other
[32:16.180 -> 32:19.780] not so important critical, you know,
[32:19.780 -> 32:22.500] off-track incidents that they sort of raised issues
[32:22.500 -> 32:23.340] for as well.
[32:23.340 -> 32:24.860] But we should talk about the podium trial
[32:24.860 -> 32:27.120] and what actually happened, because it's important
[32:27.120 -> 32:29.520] to sort of discuss that, right?
[32:29.520 -> 32:33.320] And I'm sure all you guys have seen that the drivers are
[32:33.320 -> 32:36.640] weighed after a race as well, because there is a minimum
[32:36.640 -> 32:38.440] weight that the driver and the car both
[32:38.440 -> 32:43.120] need to match for passing post-race scrutineering,
[32:43.120 -> 32:43.800] right?
[32:43.800 -> 32:47.920] And this is where, in the old times,
[32:47.920 -> 32:49.180] nobody else would be allowed.
[32:49.180 -> 32:52.620] But now for TV purposes, drivers,
[32:52.620 -> 32:54.840] sorry, media is being allowed to go speak to drivers
[32:54.840 -> 32:56.360] and hence the physios land up
[32:56.360 -> 32:58.180] and they get all sorts of help,
[32:58.180 -> 33:01.300] which they of course need to have as well, right?
[33:01.300 -> 33:03.700] Now, this is where the FIA says there is an element
[33:03.700 -> 33:06.400] where somebody could sneak in something to a driver
[33:06.400 -> 33:10.800] to increase his weight, and suddenly then the car,
[33:10.800 -> 33:13.360] you know, and the driver weight could be more
[33:13.360 -> 33:14.680] than it actually was in the race.
[33:14.680 -> 33:17.520] So various ways that they're trying to plug loopholes
[33:17.520 -> 33:20.640] while still keeping the sport as TV friendly as possible.
[33:20.640 -> 33:25.840] Just again, one of those scenarios that I could think of, which is what I shared.
[33:25.840 -> 33:31.680] So don't take it very literally that the drivers are carrying lead in their pockets to make sure
[33:31.680 -> 33:36.880] that they weigh heavier than they do. But yes, there were incidents that happened. There was
[33:37.760 -> 33:46.520] Russell and Perez. There was Gasly and Vettel. There was Albon and Vettel. And then, of course, track limits.
[33:46.520 -> 33:48.120] I mean, lots of things.
[33:48.120 -> 33:52.000] The FIA just found their ways of being as busy as they could
[33:52.000 -> 33:53.920] this weekend, Samil.
[33:53.920 -> 33:56.800] Yeah, and we likely discussed the subject of track limits
[33:56.800 -> 33:57.720] at the very top.
[33:57.720 -> 34:00.520] But I'm still, of course, I'm not a driver,
[34:00.520 -> 34:02.000] so I don't have 100% take on it.
[34:02.000 -> 34:03.420] But Max Verstappen said that it's
[34:03.420 -> 34:09.800] really hard to stay within the white lines because sometimes you approach blind corners, turn 9, I mean
[34:09.800 -> 34:13.360] turn 10 of course, I mean if you consider turn 2 as a corner which it isn't but yeah
[34:13.360 -> 34:18.960] turn 10 officially is partially a blind corner and that was where the major issue with track
[34:18.960 -> 34:22.880] limits generally was. So you kind of have to sympathize with the drivers a little bit
[34:22.880 -> 34:26.680] but the rules are the rules Kunal and that's what it should be.
[34:26.680 -> 34:30.440] Once you say that the white line is not the limit, where do you stop?
[34:30.440 -> 34:31.680] Are the end of the curbs the limit?
[34:31.680 -> 34:33.280] Are the sausage curbs the limit?
[34:33.280 -> 34:36.880] So I mean, best would be to put gravel, but that's not physically possible everywhere,
[34:36.880 -> 34:37.880] right?
[34:37.880 -> 34:41.640] So are you on the same side as the stewards, which I think I am on the side that the white
[34:41.640 -> 34:42.640] line is the limit.
[34:42.640 -> 34:44.940] You shall not cross it in any case whatsoever.
[34:44.940 -> 34:47.180] If you are to go slow, so be it, because that's legal.
[34:47.180 -> 34:48.840] That's what you have to do.
[34:48.840 -> 34:50.000] That's an interesting point.
[34:50.000 -> 34:52.680] And Lando Norris actually said that sometimes you just
[34:52.680 -> 34:54.800] had a gust of wind that would take you
[34:54.800 -> 34:57.080] three, four centimeters on either side of the line.
[34:57.080 -> 34:59.360] And he said, you don't do that for advantage.
[34:59.360 -> 35:02.440] It was just laws of physics that would just
[35:02.440 -> 35:05.280] make you go over the white line if that so be the
[35:05.280 -> 35:09.440] case and he was one of the drivers who actually had a penalty. So to me just
[35:09.440 -> 35:14.240] letting the drivers use as much of the exit curb and then keeping grass and
[35:14.240 -> 35:18.520] gravel there is probably the best thing. So you're not really relying on all
[35:18.520 -> 35:21.920] those slow-motion technologies which are then seeing oh was there actually
[35:21.920 -> 35:25.200] contact, was the shoulder of the tire on the white line
[35:25.200 -> 35:26.800] on this side or the other side?
[35:26.800 -> 35:29.440] And, you know, just make extra work of stewarding.
[35:29.440 -> 35:30.760] We probably don't want that.
[35:30.760 -> 35:34.100] We just want to make sure that it's, of course, clean.
[35:34.100 -> 35:36.500] Nobody gets an unfair advantage.
[35:36.500 -> 35:40.460] And, you know, gravel and grass and so on is just good.
[35:40.460 -> 35:42.040] Let the drivers go and figure it out.
[35:42.040 -> 35:45.800] I mean, if somebody thinks going over a sausage curb is quick, let them do that.
[35:45.800 -> 35:48.400] But of course, they're going to get car damage,
[35:48.400 -> 35:50.240] especially with these ground effect cars.
[35:50.240 -> 35:51.480] We've all seen what happens
[35:51.480 -> 35:53.300] when you end up damaging the floors,
[35:53.300 -> 35:57.520] but I guess you and I will never be the last authority
[35:57.520 -> 35:58.500] to speak on this.
[35:58.500 -> 36:02.280] Let the FIA, the drivers led by George Russell
[36:02.280 -> 36:05.360] and the gentle manly Sebastian Vettel
[36:05.360 -> 36:06.640] figured it out, Samu.
[36:06.640 -> 36:07.760] Yep, exactly.
[36:07.760 -> 36:10.360] And let's hope that they do find a solution rather quickly,
[36:10.360 -> 36:13.320] because the next race is France coming up in a couple of weeks.
[36:13.320 -> 36:15.920] And we really want to see a good race over there,
[36:15.920 -> 36:17.720] one where we have fair racing.
[36:17.720 -> 36:19.000] And we know the rules, right?
[36:19.000 -> 36:20.040] What's right, what's not.
[36:20.040 -> 36:22.680] But generally, the racing has been fantastic.
[36:22.680 -> 36:25.080] Ferrari are back to winning ways again, two wins in a row.
[36:25.080 -> 36:27.720] Things look bright for the championship battle.
[36:27.720 -> 36:29.760] And let's hope that we have a good race in France.
[36:29.760 -> 36:31.920] But what's there to look forward to for that one?
[36:31.920 -> 36:33.080] Well, that we're going to tell you
[36:33.080 -> 36:34.840] on the preview episode of the French GP
[36:34.840 -> 36:37.200] right here on the Inside Line F1 podcast.
[36:37.200 -> 36:39.040] So stay tuned for that one.
[36:39.040 -> 36:40.240] And see you then, folks.
[36:40.240 -> 36:42.160] I hope you've enjoyed listening to this episode.
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[36:47.760 -> 36:50.880] Formula 1 and I suppose, bye bye.
[36:50.880 -> 36:51.880] See you next time Mark.
[36:51.880 -> None] Have a nice time. you