Max Verstappen to win it ALL? 2023 Spanish GP Review

Podcast: Inside Line F1

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Mon, 05 Jun 2023 08:54:51 +0000

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We've moved on from asking if Red Bull Racing will win all races in 2023. We're now wondering, if it will be Max Verstappen who will win all the remaining races in 2023!


The current and double World Champion cruised on his way to victory in the 2023 Spanish Grand Prix. Verstappen has now scored a hat-trick of wins - Miami, Monaco and Spain.


In this episode of the Inside Line F1 Podcast, Soumil Arora and Kunal Shah review the 2023 Spanish Grand Prix. Is Mercedes' pace for real? Is Ferrari's tyre degradation for real? And what about Aston Martin, why did the hype around 'Mission 33' turn to dust?


The time penalty for Yuki Tsunoda, was the justified? Valtteri Bottas' struggles and Fernando Alonso telling Lance Stroll to not be worried...let's relive some of the best moments of the 2023 Spanish Grand Prix.


@f1statsguru present his stats preview segment (around 22:00 mins), tune in!


(Season 2023, Episode 27)




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Summary

**Summary of the Inside Line F1 Podcast Episode 27: 2023 Spanish Grand Prix Review**

* The Inside Line F1 Podcast hosts, Soumil Arora and Kunal Shah, review the exciting 2023 Spanish Grand Prix.
* Max Verstappen's dominance continues as he secures his third consecutive victory in Miami, Monaco, and Spain.
* Red Bull Racing's strategy and car performance are unmatched, leading to speculation about whether Verstappen can win every remaining race of the season.
* Ferrari's struggles persist, with Carlos Sainz performing well but Charles Leclerc facing issues with tire degradation and a confusing strategy.
* Mercedes shows signs of improvement with a double podium finish, but questions remain about the consistency of their upgrades.
* Aston Martin's "Mission 33" hype fades as Fernando Alonso and Lance Stroll encounter difficulties.
* Yuki Tsunoda receives a time penalty, sparking debate about its fairness.
* Valtteri Bottas continues his streak of non-point-scoring finishes.
* The race features no safety cars or yellow flags, resulting in a clean and action-packed event.
* McLaren's performance in the cold temperatures surprises many, with both cars finishing in the top 10.
* Lando Norris' cheerful demeanor adds to the excitement of the race weekend.
* Qualifying remains an unpredictable and thrilling session, with Leclerc qualifying out in Q1 but only 1.1 seconds behind Verstappen.
* The intense competition and unpredictable nature of the season keep fans engaged and eager for the upcoming races. # Inside Line F1 Podcast: Episode 27 - Spanish Grand Prix Review

**Key Insights and Perspectives:**

* Max Verstappen's dominance continues with a hat-trick of wins in Miami, Monaco, and Spain, raising questions about whether he can win all the remaining races in 2023.


* Mercedes' pace appears to have improved, but it remains to be seen if it is genuine or a result of specific factors at the Spanish Grand Prix.


* Ferrari's tire degradation issues were evident once again, raising concerns about their ability to challenge Red Bull and Mercedes consistently.


* Aston Martin's struggles continued, with their "Mission 33" hype failing to materialize, leaving them behind Mercedes in the Constructors' Championship.


* Yuki Tsunoda received a controversial time penalty for an incident with Kevin Magnussen, sparking debate about the stewards' decision-making and consistency.


* Valtteri Bottas' struggles continued in Spain, with the former Mercedes driver yet to find his form at Alfa Romeo.


* Fernando Alonso's encouraging performance in Spain, including his defense against Lance Stroll, highlighted his fighting spirit and potential to challenge for the championship.

**Important Quotes and Statements:**

* "Is Mercedes' pace for real? Is Ferrari's tire degradation for real? And what about Aston Martin, why did the hype around 'Mission 33' turn to dust?" - The podcast hosts pose key questions arising from the Spanish Grand Prix.


* "The time penalty for Yuki Tsunoda, was the justified? Valtteri Bottas' struggles and Fernando Alonso telling Lance Stroll to not be worried...let's relive some of the best moments of the 2023 Spanish Grand Prix." - The hosts highlight some of the notable moments from the race.


* "Carlos Sainz should have just stuck it on the outside on the opening lap and then gone on to the radio and said, Max didn't leave me room. And then guess what the Max would have gotten? He would have gotten a five-second penalty." - Kunal Shah suggests an alternative scenario that could have resulted in a different outcome for the incident between Sainz and Verstappen.


* "I think that's what's going to happen out of all of this. But yeah, that was the most ridiculous penalty ever." - Soumil Arora expresses his frustration with the stewards' decision to penalize Tsunoda.


* "Yuki Tsunoda was. That was just a look of pure pain." - The hosts describe Tsunoda's dejected reaction to the penalty.


* "A true Alonso versus Wischtappen, no holds barred, elbows out battle is what I'd love to see." - Arora expresses his desire for a fierce battle between Alonso and Verstappen.

**Overall Message and Takeaway:**

The Spanish Grand Prix provided further evidence of Red Bull and Verstappen's dominance, while also highlighting the challenges faced by other teams such as Mercedes, Ferrari, and Aston Martin. The controversial penalty against Tsunoda sparked discussions about the consistency and fairness of stewarding decisions in Formula One. The podcast emphasizes the potential for exciting battles and storylines as the championship progresses, particularly between Alonso and Verstappen.

Raw Transcript with Timestamps

[00:00.000 -> 00:27.440] Guys, we actually had a race. No, we're not talking about one for P1. That didn't happen. Formula One didn't have a race this time.
[00:27.440 -> 00:31.720] It was Formula 1.5 and it was beautiful.
[00:31.720 -> 00:38.180] We had so many battles, so many overtakes and at the end of the day, a good strategic battle where Ferrari
[00:38.480 -> 00:39.920] eventually managed to
[00:39.920 -> 00:46.800] lose their focus a little bit and eventually stumbled to whatever result they did. Not on the podium and Shah Alaklai also not on the points.
[00:46.800 -> 00:47.840] Disappointing?
[00:47.840 -> 00:50.160] At this stage, I think we'd probably be the ones,
[00:50.160 -> 00:52.160] the stupid ones if we think that we're disappointed.
[00:52.160 -> 00:55.040] The expectations need to be set right anyway.
[00:55.040 -> 00:56.960] But that's just one part of it.
[00:56.960 -> 00:59.840] On this episode of the Inside Line F1 podcast,
[00:59.840 -> 01:04.960] yes, we will discuss why Ferrari put Leclerc on a hard, soft, hard strategy,
[01:04.960 -> 01:05.120] with his hard compound stint lasting less than his soft compound stint. Yes, we will discuss why Ferrari put Leclerc on a hard, soft, hard strategy,
[01:05.120 -> 01:08.720] with his hard compound stint lasting less than his soft compound stint,
[01:08.720 -> 01:11.200] but there's also going to be a lot more other chatter as well.
[01:11.200 -> 01:16.400] A lot more about Max Verstappen, a lot more about McLaren and what happened to their race,
[01:16.400 -> 01:21.360] and a lot more about Mercedes and just genuinely, are they in it for real?
[01:21.360 -> 01:22.880] And are their upgrades working?
[01:22.880 -> 01:26.860] All of this and more is going to be a part of this 2023 Spanish GP review
[01:26.860 -> 01:28.960] on the InsideLine F1 podcast.
[01:28.960 -> 01:31.160] Firstly, thank you so much for joining in.
[01:31.160 -> 01:32.600] My name is Somal Arora.
[01:32.600 -> 01:35.680] I am the host of The Driving Force on Disney Plus Hotstar
[01:35.680 -> 01:39.080] and also the Indian Racing League broadcast on Star Sports.
[01:39.080 -> 01:41.000] And joining me as always is Kunal Shah,
[01:41.000 -> 01:43.480] the former marketing head of the Force India F1 team,
[01:43.480 -> 01:45.200] who's also an FIA
[01:45.200 -> 01:50.240] accredited Formula One journalist working with the Viaplay network. And this time, Kunal,
[01:50.240 -> 01:56.160] we saw a good race with no safety cars, no yellow flags, and a winner who could literally
[01:56.160 -> 02:00.240] be checking his phone while driving, or maybe even stopping and sleeping and maybe even
[02:00.240 -> 02:02.920] recreating the turtle and the rabbit kind of story.
[02:02.920 -> 02:06.040] My goodness, we should go back to asking ourselves a question.
[02:06.040 -> 02:09.040] What actually makes a good race?
[02:09.040 -> 02:13.600] Because I think it's becoming a very regular occurrence.
[02:13.600 -> 02:18.080] No safety car, no yellows, no retirements as well.
[02:18.080 -> 02:19.680] All 20 drivers finished.
[02:19.680 -> 02:22.440] It was, of course, only a shame that I
[02:22.440 -> 02:25.360] think the 20th driver was Logan Sargent, which is a given just
[02:25.360 -> 02:32.720] the way that P1 was Max Verstappen. But 19th was Valtteri Bottas, which also somewhat is becoming
[02:32.720 -> 02:40.480] a given. But sticking to what makes a good race, I mean, seven teams in the top 10 in qualifying
[02:40.480 -> 02:45.560] and in the race, and in in qualifying top six were six different
[02:45.560 -> 02:51.880] cars and since we spoke of since we spoke of safety cars etc I'm gonna you
[02:51.880 -> 02:56.560] know I'm gonna read out Nico Hulkenberg's radio message after the race
[02:56.560 -> 03:01.880] he actually said we don't get safety cars around these days don't we? Yeah
[03:01.880 -> 03:07.760] it's true it's true barely but nevertheless, I think the battling made up for
[03:07.760 -> 03:13.360] it. So before we just talk about all the upgrades and how all the teams fared out, can we just get
[03:13.360 -> 03:19.440] Max Verstappen out of the way Kunal? Because at this point really, there's so much excellence
[03:19.440 -> 03:24.320] that there's so little to be said about it. The car was just dominant, four tenths ahead in
[03:24.320 -> 03:28.800] qualifying without even trying, there was a better lap time going to come there, four tenths faster
[03:28.800 -> 03:33.800] with his banker lap. It is scary to be honest with you, I think he's on course to beat his
[03:33.800 -> 03:38.760] own record and the only thing that's on my mind right now is, if you're Sergio Perez,
[03:38.760 -> 03:43.560] how are you going to overturn this gap? Because remember, last year F1 stats guru has rightly
[03:43.560 -> 03:45.520] reported Verstappen broke the record
[03:45.520 -> 03:51.520] for the highest points gap overturned to Leclerc that was with 46 points to win a championship.
[03:51.520 -> 03:56.640] This time Kunal Sergio Perez is already 53 points behind.
[03:58.800 -> 04:05.840] And you know Samuel I've gone to this phase into ask you know know, everybody's been asking, can Red Bull Racing
[04:05.840 -> 04:09.600] win all the races this season? Now, hey, I'm actually turning the question back.
[04:09.600 -> 04:16.480] Can Max Verstappen win all the races for Red Bull Racing this season? And I know we have a lot of
[04:16.480 -> 04:21.600] fans and a lot of love from Mexico, so I don't want to take anything away from Checo. The truth
[04:21.600 -> 04:29.840] is Checo actually admitted that, I think in the last couple of races he's tried to change his driving style to extract more from the car. I also think the whole
[04:29.840 -> 04:34.400] pressure of being in a championship fight, oh my god it's now or never, maybe that's the case that
[04:34.400 -> 04:39.760] you know he's also battling so he's been binning it and qualifying and you know not being as clean
[04:39.760 -> 04:45.400] as the Checo we've known. But you know I'd love to see how this whole story pans out.
[04:45.400 -> 04:46.960] But at the same time, oh my goodness,
[04:46.960 -> 04:48.840] can Max really win everything else?
[04:48.840 -> 04:51.920] Because his performance is somewhat like the standard.
[04:51.920 -> 04:54.240] And then everybody falls in line behind him.
[04:54.240 -> 04:56.360] And we just tune in to watch races
[04:56.360 -> 04:58.920] to see how unpredictable that line from P2
[04:58.920 -> 05:02.560] to whatever it goes on to.
[05:02.560 -> 05:07.140] Seriously, I swear, it's just like Formula One is essentially a
[05:07.140 -> 05:11.380] sport where cars go around in circles, Mercedes complain eventually get a good
[05:11.380 -> 05:15.780] result, Ferrari bottle things up, there's some sort of chaos, Yuki Tsunoda always
[05:15.780 -> 05:19.220] has a good race until he doesn't and then he complains on the radio and gets
[05:19.220 -> 05:23.540] no points and eventually at the end of it all, Max Verstappen wins. If we just
[05:23.540 -> 05:30.800] sum up the sport very very succinctly in like 15-20 seconds. And Logan Sargent is last. I mean,
[05:32.800 -> 05:37.680] I think he's doing okay, but it's just where it is, you know, he's currently in a place where he's
[05:37.680 -> 05:43.920] last and maybe Valtteri Bottas will continue his non-point scoring streak. He's, you know,
[05:43.920 -> 05:48.320] Bottas scored in Bahrain and then has had six races of no score whatsoever.
[05:48.720 -> 05:51.520] And this is where people are like, dude, why are you even talking about Bottas?
[05:51.520 -> 05:58.040] But the truth is Bottas and Joe now have the same number of points this season, you know, for each.
[05:58.360 -> 06:02.920] And if Bottas is suddenly waiting, saying, I'll be an Audi driver in 2026,
[06:03.200 -> 06:05.160] I fail to see how he's going to be an Audi driver in 2026, I fail to see how he's gonna be an
[06:05.160 -> 06:11.120] Audi half driver in 2024 because Audi is you know taking more and more stake as
[06:11.120 -> 06:16.280] every year goes by. I think there's 25% this year, it's 50% next year. So will he
[06:16.280 -> 06:21.600] even be a 50% Audi driver in 24 is what we should be thinking. But you know like
[06:21.600 -> 06:26.660] like Ferrari, Bottas has said there's something wrong with the car and we're trying to figure out why.
[06:26.660 -> 06:29.300] And Ferrari said, there's something wrong with,
[06:29.300 -> 06:30.300] or at least Leclerc said,
[06:30.300 -> 06:31.740] we know there's something wrong with the car
[06:31.740 -> 06:32.580] and we don't know why.
[06:32.580 -> 06:36.820] So suddenly, it's like going down a black hole
[06:36.820 -> 06:38.460] where the deeper you go,
[06:38.460 -> 06:40.940] it's like, you're like, oh my God,
[06:40.940 -> 06:42.820] that is wrong, but I don't know what it is.
[06:42.820 -> 06:50.920] It's like tumbling down the rabbit hole typical Matrix style. It's horrible actually do we want to go
[06:50.920 -> 06:55.760] to Ferrari? Let's just do Ferrari already right it's a little silly I think in any
[06:55.760 -> 06:59.440] relationship Kunal when you get to that stage where okay I might just now being
[06:59.440 -> 07:03.160] the preachy guy here but again whenever it tends to happen right whenever you're
[07:03.160 -> 07:10.080] at that stage where you just don't know what's happening, how do you even go ahead from there? And how do you explain the
[07:10.080 -> 07:15.280] pace in qualifying? Because literally, Ferrari did a big routine check, checked out everything,
[07:15.280 -> 07:20.720] changed the rear end of the car, and still nothing changed. On the other hand, Carlos Sainz was just
[07:20.720 -> 07:26.640] able to dial it in. Okay, he only got, well, a half decent position
[07:26.640 -> 07:28.320] compared to where he eventually started off.
[07:28.320 -> 07:30.640] But again, Leclerc, it was just so random
[07:30.640 -> 07:33.240] where he just can't even pinpoint what exactly is it.
[07:33.240 -> 07:34.080] Is it the driver?
[07:34.080 -> 07:35.040] Is it the car?
[07:35.040 -> 07:35.920] Is it the rear end?
[07:35.920 -> 07:36.760] Is it the strategy?
[07:36.760 -> 07:40.160] Because everything just seemed to be equally horrible.
[07:40.160 -> 07:41.880] Like I mentioned it at the start, right?
[07:41.880 -> 07:46.160] Leclerc's strategy, the hard, hard soft hard. We had a post-race
[07:46.160 -> 07:50.640] interaction with a veteran F1 journalist Abhishek Takle here in Mumbai as well and that's one
[07:50.640 -> 07:55.760] question we posed to him as well and even he looked flabbergasted like why is your soft compound
[07:55.760 -> 08:00.880] stint literally longer than your hard compound stint and it's not like max right that they put
[08:00.880 -> 08:04.720] on the hard tire and it didn't quite work out and they're like okay let's put it back off because
[08:04.720 -> 08:07.040] we have time and we could make an extra pit stop and
[08:07.040 -> 08:08.520] still go for a better tire.
[08:08.520 -> 08:13.000] No, they literally went on the hard tire again at the end of the race when the club didn't
[08:13.000 -> 08:14.000] want it.
[08:14.000 -> 08:15.000] What the hell?
[08:15.000 -> 08:19.560] I think Ferrari largely have been saying that they have been inconsistent through their
[08:19.560 -> 08:20.920] tire usage cycle.
[08:20.920 -> 08:22.640] That's what we clearly saw.
[08:22.640 -> 08:28.320] 17 laps in the start on the hard and then 25 laps on the soft
[08:28.320 -> 08:30.040] and then 25 laps again on the hard.
[08:30.040 -> 08:32.800] And then we saw the classic battle.
[08:32.800 -> 08:35.800] Leclerc said, oh, no, can we please have the soft?
[08:35.800 -> 08:37.440] And Ferrari said, no, it'll be the hard.
[08:37.440 -> 08:38.920] And then they give him the hard.
[08:38.920 -> 08:41.880] And then he was actually good on that hard compound.
[08:41.880 -> 08:45.200] So Ferrari's tire utilization and their degradation
[08:45.200 -> 08:47.280] was where the big challenge was.
[08:47.280 -> 08:49.680] But I think I probably figured out what
[08:49.680 -> 08:51.400] was wrong with Leclerc's car.
[08:51.400 -> 08:52.760] There was a mechanical problem.
[08:52.760 -> 08:55.200] That's the true story.
[08:55.200 -> 08:57.280] But I think the car was just a right-hander,
[08:57.280 -> 08:59.000] because the car was really wonderful
[08:59.000 -> 09:01.600] through the right-hand corners, but struggled
[09:01.600 -> 09:02.880] into the left-hand corners.
[09:02.880 -> 09:03.960] And why do I know this?
[09:03.960 -> 09:07.860] Because I'm the reverse. I'm a left-hhander I struggle with things on my right but I'm
[09:07.860 -> 09:12.300] very good with things on my left so maybe that's one of the theories that are there.
[09:12.300 -> 09:15.840] Actually, now that you mention it in bike racing it's a very
[09:15.840 -> 09:20.220] prominent thing even the greats like Valentino Rossi had a preferred side
[09:20.220 -> 09:24.020] while turning the bike on although that makes more sense because it's a more
[09:24.020 -> 09:29.360] physical thing so it's more about how your body aligns it. But with cars as well, I've never quite heard that
[09:29.360 -> 09:37.520] before. Imagine running that Saturday Ferrari at the Indy 500, which is all left-hander corners.
[09:38.560 -> 09:45.000] Oh boy, it'll all go south. And you know what, Kunal, I think their weekend was equally south as well.
[09:45.200 -> 09:52.160] It's just how? At the end of the day as well with Ferrari, the way the pace was managed. Look, look, I think at this point
[09:52.840 -> 09:58.520] Let's just try to figure out in what ways can Ferrari manage to disappoint the poor chap again?
[09:58.720 -> 10:03.960] Like seriously, it sounds like a cliche now, Kunal, but every single time
[10:03.960 -> 10:05.260] we're coming up with new ways.
[10:05.260 -> 10:06.100] And did you know what,
[10:06.100 -> 10:07.980] in the Thursday media session, right?
[10:07.980 -> 10:09.060] In the show and tell session,
[10:09.060 -> 10:11.540] where you're meant to showcase your new upgraded car
[10:11.540 -> 10:12.820] to all the media,
[10:12.820 -> 10:15.500] Ferrari eventually put out this one beautiful looking
[10:15.500 -> 10:17.300] Ferrari car with all the journalists were looking at,
[10:17.300 -> 10:19.180] inspecting for 30, 40 minutes.
[10:19.180 -> 10:21.020] They were very closely getting to the car,
[10:21.020 -> 10:23.180] as close as possible without touching it,
[10:23.180 -> 10:28.720] scanning sides of it, the sideboard, the front wing, the rear wing looking underneath and all the journalists were like,
[10:28.720 -> 10:34.000] well this looks awfully similar, have they changed anything? And then Ferrari realized that, oh no,
[10:34.000 -> 10:38.800] we've actually put out the old car, we now need to drag out the new upgraded Ferrari outside and
[10:38.800 -> 10:48.400] that just shows you how clueless the team can be. I actually missed this. I wouldn't have known had we not recorded this. Oh my goodness. And
[10:48.400 -> 10:52.960] you know, we were talking of how everyone's going to bring upgrades and Red Bull was bringing an
[10:52.960 -> 10:57.760] upgrade. Will they bring a zero part and suddenly still beat the field? Ferrari, of course, ended up
[10:57.760 -> 11:03.440] bringing a Red Bull looking car, much as Mercedes also finally brought some upgrades. So with this
[11:03.440 -> 11:08.320] whole talk of, oh my God, in 2022, so many different philosophies,
[11:08.320 -> 11:09.960] and now everybody's just like,
[11:09.960 -> 11:11.360] let's just run a Formula Red Bull
[11:11.360 -> 11:13.160] because that's how we know we can win.
[11:13.160 -> 11:16.880] Because such was Max's advantage, Samuel,
[11:16.880 -> 11:19.520] that he started on a harder compound
[11:20.680 -> 11:21.800] than everybody else around him.
[11:21.800 -> 11:24.800] He was on the medium while everybody else was on the soft.
[11:24.800 -> 11:34.080] And remember, the run from the start grid to turn one is one of the longest ones in the corner in Spain.
[11:34.080 -> 11:40.480] So he was so confident that I remember one of his, you know, on Viaplay we had a start grid interview
[11:40.480 -> 11:48.560] or just before and Max Verstappen said, even if Carlos takes me into turn one,
[11:48.560 -> 11:53.760] I am not worried, we have the race pace to beat him later. Like that's how much confidence they
[11:54.320 -> 12:02.000] are able to drive with. And overall, I think it was a fairly interesting race, lots of overtakes
[12:02.000 -> 12:08.960] and lots of stops. I think every driver made two stops, there were four or five drivers that did three stops. There were four or five drivers that
[12:08.960 -> 12:14.880] actually did use every compound through the stop. So I think Nico Halkenberg, Kevin Marknusen,
[12:14.880 -> 12:20.240] maybe even Yuki Sonoda, yeah, they used the soft hard medium, all three compounds trying to
[12:20.240 -> 12:26.360] get through positions. So all in all, it was very chaotic in the pit lane, on the track.
[12:26.360 -> 12:32.240] But, you know, it's like, I wouldn't still rate it as a classic. I don't know about you.
[12:32.240 -> 12:38.160] Yeah, it's just been, it can't be a classic. It's just the way it is, simply. But no,
[12:38.160 -> 12:42.480] on a very honest note, I think this race leaves you with more questions than answers,
[12:42.480 -> 12:50.080] which is the amazing part in my mind that we're still quite confused about Mercedes, about how genuine their upgrade base is, because
[12:50.080 -> 12:56.080] the way they manage the tyres all the way through, that first stint was incredible, literally 20-25
[12:56.080 -> 13:01.200] odd laps on the soft compound tyres and even Mercedes themselves apparently were confused about
[13:01.200 -> 13:05.280] how our tyre management is just that good. Of course, a lot of it can be
[13:05.280 -> 13:10.160] boiled down to the track temperature, about how the heat just really tended to suit Mercedes quite
[13:10.160 -> 13:14.640] a fair bit and also it was sort of cooler down than Friday which meant that their expectations
[13:14.640 -> 13:18.960] for tyre wear were much much different and again compared to the simulations, so they were
[13:18.960 -> 13:23.360] pleasantly surprised at the end of the day. But say what you want Kunal, we're in the grey about
[13:23.360 -> 13:29.840] how good this Mercedes can be at other tracks, we're in the grey about Aston Martin as well about how bad their car was
[13:29.840 -> 13:35.600] this weekend and just what was it, was it just a flow damage after Q1 that really impeded Fernando
[13:35.600 -> 13:40.800] all the way through in qualifying, was it just terrible tyre wear because we saw Aston Martin's
[13:40.800 -> 13:44.720] onboards all the way through the race and both Alonso and Stroll had to nurse the car all the
[13:44.720 -> 13:48.160] way through and the way the degradation impacted them was just
[13:48.160 -> 13:53.040] beyond me. They were lapping in similar lap times to Alpine and then Alpine of all the teams
[13:53.040 -> 13:57.280] had a super disappointing weekend because when they had pace as good as Aston Martin,
[13:57.280 -> 14:02.800] they could only salvage P8 and P10. So eventually you're just left with more questions than answers
[14:02.800 -> 14:07.000] and I feel that's the sign of a good race where you're hungry to know more.
[14:07.000 -> 14:09.720] And that I think is nailed on pretty well.
[14:09.720 -> 14:13.000] Apart from the Red Bull stuff, by the way, which Max Verstappen really killed it.
[14:13.000 -> 14:15.000] What Grand Slam this time, Kunal?
[14:15.000 -> 14:16.000] Yeah.
[14:16.000 -> 14:19.760] Led every lap, set fastest lap, caught pole position and won the race.
[14:19.760 -> 14:22.640] And he led all free practice sessions as well.
[14:22.640 -> 14:25.960] So suddenly he's raising the bar for the grand shalem as well,
[14:25.960 -> 14:29.480] saying not just the typical three factors, but also, hey,
[14:29.480 -> 14:32.520] I was quickest in free practices and whatever.
[14:32.520 -> 14:34.360] But a very interesting point.
[14:34.360 -> 14:39.020] So my understanding is that a lot of performances
[14:39.020 -> 14:41.920] that we saw, or a lot of performances that didn't
[14:41.920 -> 14:45.400] happen, case in point, say, Aston Martin,
[14:45.400 -> 14:50.120] was maybe track, temperature, and tire specific.
[14:50.120 -> 14:51.880] So I'm going to put three T's,
[14:51.880 -> 14:53.160] track, temperature, and tire.
[14:53.160 -> 14:56.020] Track, you know, the last corner,
[14:56.020 -> 14:59.360] which frankly actually seemed to offer good racing,
[14:59.360 -> 15:01.420] suddenly put a new variable for the teams
[15:01.420 -> 15:04.960] which they were trying to find a balance on the car for.
[15:04.960 -> 15:08.040] Then temperature was cooler on Saturday,
[15:08.040 -> 15:10.860] which saw the likes of McLaren suddenly shine
[15:10.860 -> 15:13.000] because they were able to keep their,
[15:13.000 -> 15:14.480] they were able to hit the sweet spot.
[15:14.480 -> 15:16.360] Something Ferrari, for example, said,
[15:16.360 -> 15:18.800] we were either in the sweet spot or we were way off it.
[15:18.800 -> 15:20.080] There was nothing in the middle.
[15:20.080 -> 15:23.500] So like the diva thing that, you know, Mercedes said.
[15:23.500 -> 15:25.720] And then the third was tires.
[15:25.720 -> 15:28.880] Pirelli brought their hardest compounds,
[15:28.880 -> 15:33.120] thinking that, oh my god, Spain is anyway so crazy on the tires.
[15:33.120 -> 15:34.640] And now we have these two new corners
[15:34.640 -> 15:36.180] which will kill the tires even more.
[15:36.180 -> 15:39.160] So they correctly assumed and brought the hardest tires.
[15:39.160 -> 15:41.760] Now, those tires were so difficult to bring
[15:41.760 -> 15:44.080] into the range that if you got it into the range,
[15:44.080 -> 15:45.640] suddenly you were really quick. Otherwise, you were just trying to work and bring bring into the range that if you got it into the range, suddenly you were really quick.
[15:45.640 -> 15:47.720] Otherwise, you were just trying to work and bring them
[15:47.720 -> 15:48.380] into the range.
[15:48.380 -> 15:52.040] So Mercedes's upgrades, did they really work?
[15:52.040 -> 15:55.240] Or was it a formula of these three Ts
[15:55.240 -> 15:58.840] that ended up working and giving Mercedes a double podium
[15:58.840 -> 16:02.640] result, which is what I'd love to know,
[16:02.640 -> 16:04.360] how things pan out in Canada.
[16:04.360 -> 16:06.120] And like you said said lots more questions and
[16:06.920 -> 16:10.280] I like it. I like it. It's it's fun. It leaves you
[16:10.840 -> 16:13.360] hunting for more and in that case as well
[16:13.360 -> 16:19.520] I also like it when George Russell is in a good mood eventually because when he's not he becomes just so
[16:19.760 -> 16:28.640] Annoying eventually, but when he's happy Kunal he suddenly becomes the rain man and he's sensing some rain as well. And he's just sort of screwing around with the team as well when
[16:28.640 -> 16:33.080] he's just saying, oh no, it wasn't a solid move. It was just solid. What's up with this
[16:33.080 -> 16:38.240] guy? I really, really love him. Although it's annoying, but it's some character, which is
[16:38.240 -> 16:43.200] what we so badly miss. And on the other side of the things as well, Fernando Alonso is
[16:43.200 -> 16:50.160] losing character. I mean, it's like, it's something that one of our really dear friends and attendees at the
[16:51.040 -> 16:56.400] InsideLine F1 podcast, F1 Pitstop yesterday said, that Alonso is now working at a corporate job
[16:56.400 -> 17:01.120] where he has to suck up for the boss's son. And that radio message eventually, it's,
[17:01.680 -> 17:05.280] I think it shows the difference between Alonso and Verstappen, where Max Verstappen,
[17:05.280 -> 17:08.440] he's such a bad person. He doesn't care for Sergio, doesn't tell him that, oh, Sergio
[17:08.440 -> 17:12.200] has made a good move, or doesn't give him his break-bys. But Fernando Alonso does all
[17:12.200 -> 17:15.880] of these things and then also says, oh, no, don't worry, my friend, I'm just creating
[17:15.880 -> 17:20.800] a gap behind you. He's a good guy. I think finally, finally, he's maturing, Kunal, at
[17:20.800 -> 17:28.480] 41 years old? Well I'm gonna first start with George Russell he also
[17:28.480 -> 17:32.000] ended up telling Mercedes the minute he left the pits I think it was the first
[17:32.000 -> 17:36.960] stop great pit stop lads you know so he was in that really good mood and when he
[17:36.960 -> 17:41.160] said oh is it the sweat or is it the rain I actually switched to the official
[17:41.160 -> 17:47.200] f1 radar channel that I have and I was like he is saying turn 5 but
[17:47.200 -> 17:51.760] actually at turn 10 there were rain clouds and suddenly I remember telling everybody in the
[17:51.760 -> 17:58.320] broadcast studio oh my god I think rain is coming and we showed the weather radar you know just
[17:58.320 -> 18:05.720] because George Russell said is it the rain is it the sweat It was so strange. He triggered everybody. I'm pretty sure everybody went through this. Okay, and
[18:06.480 -> 18:07.680] but
[18:07.680 -> 18:13.080] Eventually, he he finished so much higher than where he started. He pulled off a lot of moves
[18:13.280 -> 18:18.920] he was you know, he could he he had some great overtakes on on track as as well and
[18:20.340 -> 18:24.600] Finally about Fernando Alonso the whole mission 33 hype
[18:25.000 -> 18:25.320] Finally about Fernando Alonso, the whole Mission 33 hype
[18:27.400 -> 18:29.480] suddenly died down in Spain. I was hoping Taylor Swift would come and sort of,
[18:29.480 -> 18:31.160] you know, give him home crowd support,
[18:31.160 -> 18:33.400] but there were lots of footballers,
[18:33.400 -> 18:36.240] there was Shakira out there, but nothing for Fernando.
[18:36.240 -> 18:39.920] And I liked that whole moment between him and Stroll,
[18:39.920 -> 18:42.320] where he said, tell Lance to not worry.
[18:42.320 -> 18:45.200] It's like, oh my God, if I attack you,
[18:45.200 -> 18:46.200] you better be worried.
[18:46.200 -> 18:48.560] You have no clue how I can attack you.
[18:48.560 -> 18:50.760] But tell Lance to not be worried.
[18:50.760 -> 18:53.680] And then he actually said, six, seven, seven, six,
[18:53.680 -> 18:56.520] we bring teams as a point, what difference?
[18:56.520 -> 18:58.840] You know, it's all in the same.
[18:58.840 -> 19:02.240] But yeah, you can see he's building onto something more
[19:02.240 -> 19:05.560] at Aston Martin than just having driven.
[19:05.560 -> 19:07.240] And is the next battle going to be,
[19:07.240 -> 19:10.760] will it be the son who will be the team principal,
[19:10.760 -> 19:13.720] or will it be Fernando Alonso?
[19:13.720 -> 19:16.040] But anyway, that's all just, you know,
[19:16.040 -> 19:20.280] it's just subjective talk that we are going on to.
[19:20.280 -> 19:21.880] But I find it interesting.
[19:21.880 -> 19:23.640] You mentioned something in the preview,
[19:23.640 -> 19:31.840] didn't you, Kunal, that Fernando Alonso's some, some, what was it the blood age or was it the metabolic age was some 31
[19:31.840 -> 19:32.840] years old, right?
[19:32.840 -> 19:33.840] Or something on the other?
[19:33.840 -> 19:35.320] No, he was 33 years old.
[19:35.320 -> 19:36.640] 33 years old.
[19:36.640 -> 19:40.560] At what point does a human being normally mature?
[19:40.560 -> 19:44.920] Because I've heard for guys, it's normally around the age of 21, 24, thereabouts, you
[19:44.920 -> 19:47.000] start to become more mature, You look at the bigger picture.
[19:47.000 -> 19:49.000] It's happening. Slowly.
[19:49.000 -> 19:53.000] Depending on who you ask. I don't think people think I'm mature enough.
[19:53.000 -> 19:54.000] But anyway.
[19:54.000 -> 19:57.000] But I'll tell you who actually has matured.
[19:57.000 -> 19:59.000] Or I don't know if it's...
[19:59.000 -> 20:02.000] Just one step back to Ferrari.
[20:02.000 -> 20:05.360] Things got so desperate for them and Carlos Sainz
[20:05.360 -> 20:06.960] in the race that Carlos Sainz
[20:06.960 -> 20:08.880] had to ask the pit wall for help.
[20:08.880 -> 20:10.000] Oh, yes.
[20:10.000 -> 20:12.360] For strategy, the chief strategy officer
[20:12.360 -> 20:15.000] who drives also the car, number 55,
[20:15.000 -> 20:17.440] Chile, who was second, also Spanish.
[20:17.440 -> 20:20.420] He asked the pit wall for help,
[20:20.420 -> 20:22.800] saying, do what it takes to beat Checo.
[20:22.800 -> 20:25.880] And then of course, that wasn't the case.
[20:25.880 -> 20:26.380] Why?
[20:26.380 -> 20:27.680] Why, Carlos?
[20:27.680 -> 20:30.240] Aren't you meant to be the smart one around here?
[20:30.240 -> 20:33.760] Aren't you meant to be literally the one who guides the strategy
[20:33.760 -> 20:35.160] team on their strategies?
[20:35.160 -> 20:36.560] Why are you asking them for help?
[20:36.560 -> 20:39.480] And eventually, they did help out Leclerc quite a fair bit.
[20:39.480 -> 20:42.920] But we should get back with more on other teams as well.
[20:42.920 -> 20:45.880] We really want to talk about McLaren and Alpine as well.
[20:45.880 -> 20:51.280] And also on that Yuki Tsunoda penalty because I am annoyed quite a fair bit.
[20:51.280 -> 20:56.060] But to cheer me up a little bit and to also give us more context on just how good Max
[20:56.060 -> 20:59.080] and Red Bull Racing were, it's time for the stats review.
[20:59.080 -> 21:03.040] And F1 Stats Guru is going to present some really fun numbers about the Spanish GP.
[21:03.040 -> 21:04.040] Let's listen in.
[21:04.040 -> 21:07.800] Hey folks, it's time to do the stats review of the Spanish Grand Prix. My name is Sundaram,
[21:07.800 -> 21:12.640] also known as the F1 Stats Guru. Let's get straight into the numbers. Now, Red Bull have won the 99th
[21:12.640 -> 21:16.480] race in Formula 1 history and soon enough, they're going to be entering that elite,
[21:16.480 -> 21:21.600] Sunsurance club of race winners, which has teams like Ferrari, McLaren, Williams and Mercedes.
[21:21.600 -> 21:25.580] The lead driver Max Verstappen has just taken his 40th win
[21:25.580 -> 21:30.960] in the sport and is just one short of the legendary Ed and Senna's tally of 41 wins.
[21:30.960 -> 21:35.840] The interesting bit is 30 of those 40 wins have come since 2021 and so rapid has been
[21:35.840 -> 21:40.800] his rise that he could actually become the sport's third most successful driver at
[21:40.800 -> 21:45.280] the end of this season only behind Lewis Hamilton and Michael Schumacher.
[21:45.280 -> 21:49.840] Red Bull have also won their last 8 races on the trot and they are within touching distance
[21:49.840 -> 21:55.700] of McLaren's overall record of 11 which they set 35 years ago with Ayrton Senna and
[21:55.700 -> 21:56.700] Alan Prost.
[21:56.700 -> 22:00.440] Now over 3 decades a lot of teams have come close to that record but no one has even actually
[22:00.440 -> 22:03.920] equalled it and Red Bull have a couple of home races coming up so it's going to be
[22:03.920 -> 22:07.360] very interesting to see if they can equal that record or even do
[22:07.360 -> 22:11.400] better than that. Max Verstappen has a healthy margin of 53 points over the
[22:11.400 -> 22:14.880] second-place driver in the championship which actually is Sergio Perez but the
[22:14.880 -> 22:19.240] fact is no one has actually overturned such a huge deficit on route to the
[22:19.240 -> 22:23.440] world title. Verstappen himself holds the record of 46 points which he did last
[22:23.440 -> 22:25.840] year but 53 points looks a
[22:25.840 -> 22:31.120] very challenging task and we are all wondering how soon can he actually win the title this year.
[22:31.120 -> 22:34.320] Now we also need to talk about the track because the Spanish Grand Prix has had the sort of
[22:34.320 -> 22:39.120] reputation that it's a dull race where you don't see a lot of overtakes, but ever since they've
[22:39.120 -> 22:44.240] made a couple of changes to their last sector, things have slightly changed. They made turn 10,
[22:44.240 -> 22:45.280] a sweeping left hander and
[22:45.280 -> 22:49.600] this year they removed a couple of slow chicanes, making the entry speed into the main straight
[22:49.600 -> 22:55.280] a lot quicker, which also helped overtaking. Because this year we saw a total of 49 passes
[22:55.280 -> 22:59.280] at Barcelona, the most that we've seen here in the hybrid era.
[22:59.280 -> 23:03.440] And lastly, we need to talk about the lack of DNFs, because this is the 12th race in
[23:03.440 -> 23:09.560] Formula 1 history to not have a single race retirement. And I've just been wondering, 8 of those 12 races
[23:09.560 -> 23:13.480] have actually been in the hybrid era itself. So does that mean that reliability has improved
[23:13.480 -> 23:17.280] so much over the years and decades that we really don't have a lot of retirements at
[23:17.280 -> 23:21.320] all? Or is it the fact that drivers have become so much more skilled and alert that they don't
[23:21.320 -> 23:27.200] crash into each other or into the barriers? Something that we actually frequently see in the past couple of seasons.
[23:27.200 -> 23:29.280] But that was the stats review of the Spanish Grand Prix.
[23:29.280 -> 23:30.480] I hope you folks enjoyed that.
[23:30.480 -> 23:33.440] There were a lot more interesting stats and facts from this race itself.
[23:33.440 -> 23:36.880] So if you would like to see them, do follow me on my Instagram and Twitter under the name
[23:36.880 -> 23:37.880] of F1StatsGuru.
[23:37.880 -> 23:38.880] I'll see you folks soon.
[23:38.880 -> 23:44.120] Strange isn't it Kunal, that after Miami, so close in, we just have another race that
[23:44.120 -> 23:47.760] has no yellow flags, no safety cars, nothing or the other.
[23:47.760 -> 23:51.600] It's funny that it still has turned out to be quite a good race.
[23:51.600 -> 23:57.360] And in part as well, because we saw other teams like McLaren and also other stories like Alpine to watch for.
[23:57.360 -> 24:00.160] Because those two things really kept me hooked.
[24:00.160 -> 24:03.360] Alpine, firstly. It's so disappointing.
[24:03.360 -> 24:07.280] P8 and P10 is just not representative enough
[24:07.280 -> 24:11.200] about how good they were all the weekend. I mean, their pace was very, very similar
[24:11.200 -> 24:16.040] to what we saw with Aston Martin all the way through. Gasly got the unfortunate penalty.
[24:16.040 -> 24:20.360] Ocon obviously had to pester Fernando Alonso because obviously he had to pester Fernando
[24:20.360 -> 24:24.440] Alonso. It wouldn't make sense without it. But if you look at it this way, wouldn't it
[24:24.440 -> 24:28.680] be fun to be now a part of an Alpine board meeting where Otmar Safner is just going to
[24:28.680 -> 24:32.000] get his head chewed off again? Or are they going to be celebrating because McLaren got
[24:32.000 -> 24:36.880] barely any points? I mean, if you want to be in a board meeting with them, firstly,
[24:36.880 -> 24:40.720] you have to ask how many people actually sit in a board meeting and how good is your French
[24:40.720 -> 24:45.080] because they are very French. I really doubt we have French listeners.
[24:45.080 -> 24:49.520] Now that would really surprise me if we had French listeners.
[24:49.520 -> 24:52.760] It would surprise me as much as not seeing Fernando Alonso
[24:52.760 -> 24:55.160] on the podium because that sort of had become our template
[24:55.160 -> 24:57.400] that we got used to, two Red Bull drivers and Fernando
[24:57.400 -> 24:58.480] on the podium, right?
[24:58.480 -> 24:59.920] Exactly.
[24:59.920 -> 25:04.960] But Lance Stroll, we had a stats review by F1 Stats Guru.
[25:04.960 -> 25:05.000] My stat for this episode is Lance Stroll and we had a stats review by F1 Stats Guru.
[25:05.000 -> 25:09.520] My stat for this episode is Lance Stroll and Charles Leclerc
[25:09.520 -> 25:14.040] have now scored points in the same number of races in 2023,
[25:14.040 -> 25:19.160] which is only four races out of seven.
[25:19.160 -> 25:23.800] And it just goes to show, what's going
[25:23.800 -> 25:25.400] to happen with Leclerc and Ferrari.
[25:25.400 -> 25:28.700] Are more rumors going to come out between now and Canada?
[25:28.700 -> 25:30.700] Because that's typically what ends up happening.
[25:30.700 -> 25:34.400] But anyway, and you mentioned McLaren.
[25:34.400 -> 25:40.900] I think McLaren was just very good under the cold temperatures to have both the cars there in the top 10.
[25:40.900 -> 25:43.900] And, you know, to see you mentioned a happy George Russell.
[25:43.900 -> 25:45.040] I would say even a happy
[25:45.040 -> 25:50.560] chirpy Lando Norris is so much fun to talk to. On Saturday, he said, oh, wow, we just got it here.
[25:50.560 -> 25:54.320] You know, oh, wow, are we P3? You know, that typical. And then he got out of the car, he's like,
[25:54.320 -> 26:02.160] we will be lapped three times over even though we are in P3. So I think, all in all,
[26:03.120 -> 26:06.320] it just goes to show how tight it is.
[26:06.320 -> 26:09.400] Because in qualifying, Leclerc was out in Q1,
[26:09.400 -> 26:13.080] but he was just 1.1 seconds slower than Max Verstappen.
[26:13.080 -> 26:15.400] And then, of course, 6 tenths slower was Logan Sargent,
[26:15.400 -> 26:17.040] but we just leave that aside.
[26:17.040 -> 26:22.200] So that's just how close things are in general, Samuel,
[26:22.200 -> 26:23.320] I would say, especially.
[26:23.320 -> 26:29.980] I mean, qualifying is now even more my most favorite session of the weekend. Yeah likewise anything can
[26:29.980 -> 26:33.840] happen which is so amazing anything barring a Max Verstappen poor position
[26:33.840 -> 26:38.320] that is just a normal and with that actually let's go to things that are
[26:38.320 -> 26:43.640] also just about as normal which is as I earlier mentioned Yuki Sonoda having a
[26:43.640 -> 26:46.320] great race scoring decent points until
[26:46.320 -> 26:51.200] the last 10 laps, when something or the other goes wrong, he screams and shouts on the radio,
[26:51.200 -> 26:55.840] he gets some sort of penalty or he just makes a mistake on his own and eventually he ends up in
[26:55.840 -> 27:01.920] P11 or P12. As always, it's become the Yuki Sonoda template and it really hurts me because
[27:01.920 -> 27:10.160] I like him, I like him and which is why his penalty really stings me Kunal because the more I watch it, the more I get annoyed about thinking, well,
[27:10.160 -> 27:15.600] what did you expect Yuki to do? Like, where should the guy go? He's literally turning in super early
[27:15.600 -> 27:21.120] to make sure that he's touching the early apex of the turn of the first corner basically. And
[27:21.120 -> 27:25.760] Jogwan, you should be more aware that the fact that there's no room on the outside to
[27:25.760 -> 27:29.600] make a move at that case. Okay, sure. Heading into the breaking zone, his wheels were marginally,
[27:29.600 -> 27:34.640] only like a half an inch ahead of Yuki Tsunoda. But isn't it common knowledge that turn one can't
[27:34.640 -> 27:39.360] be taken from outside to inside to outside? That's just not how you do it. But you're the
[27:39.360 -> 27:50.040] one who's raced far more than me. How do you look at this and how annoyed are you? Because clearly everyone is pissed, everyone just bawling jog on you. And there was so much space
[27:50.040 -> 27:54.000] that you could have flown maybe a go-kart through you know between the two
[27:54.000 -> 27:58.240] cars I would say but but I think that's you know you said you can expect
[27:58.240 -> 28:01.000] anything and you actually expected anything from the stewards but that
[28:01.000 -> 28:04.200] makes me wonder you know Carlos Sainz should have just stuck it on the outside
[28:04.200 -> 28:08.160] on the opening lap and then gone on to the radio and said, Max didn't
[28:08.160 -> 28:11.960] leave me room. And then guess what the Max would have got? He would have gotten a five
[28:11.960 -> 28:15.760] second penalty. But no, at that time, the stewards would have said, we treat opening
[28:15.760 -> 28:29.060] laps differently to every other 65 laps of the race. And our let them race philosophy is so twisted and can be bent and molded to how we see it.
[28:29.060 -> 28:31.100] And then when Gunter Steiner,
[28:31.100 -> 28:32.800] or now this time it will be Franz Tost,
[28:32.800 -> 28:37.420] who will probably sit in the Canada team principal
[28:37.420 -> 28:40.040] press interviews and call for better stewarding,
[28:40.040 -> 28:42.100] and then he will be given a warning
[28:42.100 -> 28:45.440] by the FIA media delegate for speaking against the FIA.
[28:45.440 -> 28:49.600] I think that's what's going to happen out of all of this. But yeah, that was the most ridiculous
[28:49.600 -> 28:56.000] penalty ever. Yeah, seriously. And just take a look at how dejected and disappointed Yuki
[28:56.000 -> 29:07.680] Tsunoda was. That was just a look of pure pain. And his dejection we heard in English. I would love to hear his dejection in Japanese.
[29:07.680 -> 29:16.480] So if we have fans in Japan who want to write in to us and share some notes on how dejected Yuki was in Japanese, I would love for that.
[29:16.480 -> 29:22.320] Oh yeah, actually because we've only ever heard him properly in English and he swears a lot when he's in English.
[29:22.320 -> 29:27.440] So I just want to know, I'm very curious actually, does he do the same when he's talking in Japanese as well? It would be fun to know but
[29:27.440 -> 29:32.080] yeah, probably now is not the time to rain on his parade at the end of the day. But a fun weekend
[29:32.080 -> 29:38.560] on the whole, yes Verstappen would have won but Formula 1, okay it's boring. Formula 1.5 was
[29:38.560 -> 29:43.200] excellent and in the race for the championship canal, only an 18 point gap between Sergio Perez
[29:43.200 -> 29:50.080] and Fernando Alonso. So things are heating up over here as well. And Mercedes is ahead of Aston Martin and
[29:50.080 -> 29:54.320] you know we kept asking will Mercedes actually try and catch up Aston Martin now we have to ask the
[29:54.320 -> 30:00.320] reverse question can Aston Martin really catch up with Mercedes so I don't know we don't really ask
[30:00.320 -> 30:06.840] that question with a lot of confidence but but somehow Fernando actually felt like Spain was an outlier,
[30:06.840 -> 30:08.100] which is a strange thing, but yeah,
[30:08.100 -> 30:10.280] he sounded like it was an outlier and they'll be back
[30:10.280 -> 30:14.060] and they'll still be chasing Red Bull come the next race.
[30:14.060 -> 30:15.720] And I would love for that to happen.
[30:15.720 -> 30:18.880] A true Alonso versus Wischtappen,
[30:18.880 -> 30:22.980] no holds barred, elbows out battle is what I'd love to see.
[30:22.980 -> 30:24.440] And guess what he was?
[30:24.440 -> 30:27.220] P2 in Canada last year, wasn't he?
[30:27.220 -> 30:28.820] So Canada is coming up.
[30:28.820 -> 30:29.720] Yeah, with Alpine.
[30:29.720 -> 30:31.140] And Alpine was really good there.
[30:31.140 -> 30:36.100] So let's hope the Aston Martin is also good in Canada.
[30:36.100 -> 30:37.540] Should be fun as well.
[30:37.540 -> 30:39.080] Well, let's talk about more of that
[30:39.080 -> 30:42.500] and all the other stories on Formula One in our next episode.
[30:42.500 -> 30:44.900] But for now, folks, that's about all from here.
[30:44.900 -> 30:47.040] Thank you so much for listening, and we'll be back
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