Did Drivers gang up against the FIA? 2023 Austrian GP Review

With over 1,200 track limit violations in the 2023 Austrian Grand Prix, we wonder if the drivers ganged up against the FIA to prove a point. After all, track limits is a recurring issue at the Red Bull Ring - an issue that almost no one is trying to find a permanent and more reliable solution for.

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In this episode of the Inside Line F1 Podcast, Soumil and Kunal banter on track limits, what happened, why it happened and what's next? Are you surprised that no other team protested? And are you some of the few even more surprised that Alpine didn't further protest Esteban Ocon's post-race time penalties? After all, Ocon was one of two drivers (the other being George Russell) who was given no in-race notification of violation. Just FIA things, we know.

Also, Ferrari got their race strategy right two races in a row - but Carlos Sainz (and maybe Charles Leclerc) knows that the podium was his. Sergio Perez had two Qualifying sessions and he decided to mess up at least one. Lando Norris proved that Austria is his happy hunting ground.

Toto Wolff's pleading Lewis Hamilton to drive the Mercedes, Carlos Sainz being 'intimidated' by Sergio Perez, Norris-Hamilton playing sensors and a lot more in our review episode of the 2023 Austrian Grand Prix.

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(Season 2023, Episode 33)

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**Track Limits:**

* The Austrian Grand Prix witnessed a staggering 1,200 track limit violations, prompting speculation that drivers were intentionally pushing the boundaries to challenge the FIA's authority.
* The excessive track limit infringements led to numerous penalties, including a post-race 30-second penalty for Esteban Ocon, who was initially unaware of his violations during the race.
* The incident highlighted the need for a more reliable and efficient system for monitoring track limits, with suggestions ranging from gravel traps to AI-powered sensors.
* The FIA's handling of the situation, particularly the delayed penalty for Ocon, raised questions about the consistency and transparency of race control.

**Ferrari's Strategy:**

* Ferrari's strategic decisions in Austria yielded positive results, with Carlos Sainz securing P4 and Charles Leclerc finishing P2, despite a slow pit stop and a double stack.
* The team's ability to recover from these setbacks demonstrated their improved pit stop performance and overall race strategy.
* Sainz's defense against Sergio Perez was particularly impressive, showcasing his tenacity and skill in wheel-to-wheel combat.

**Max Verstappen's Dominance:**

* Max Verstappen's victory in Austria marked his fifth win at the Red Bull Ring and Red Bull Racing's 101st victory overall.
* Verstappen's commanding performance, including a strategic pit stop late in the race, highlighted his exceptional talent and consistency.
* The Dutchman's dominance has drawn comparisons to Kimi Raikkonen's achievements, with Verstappen matching Raikkonen's tally of 21 wins in just 14 months.

**Mercedes' Struggles:**

* Mercedes endured a challenging race in Austria, with Lewis Hamilton struggling to extract pace from the car and finishing outside the points.
* Team principal Toto Wolff's radio message to Hamilton, pleading with him to drive the car despite its poor performance, sparked discussions about driver motivation and the team's current situation.
* The team's struggles underscored the difficulties they face in developing a competitive car for the 2023 season.

**Sebastian Vettel vs. Max Verstappen:**

* Dr. Helmut Marko, Red Bull Racing's motorsport advisor, compared Sebastian Vettel and Max Verstappen, two of the team's most successful drivers.
* Marko highlighted Verstappen's natural talent and ease in adapting to different conditions, while acknowledging Vettel's meticulous approach to engineering and race preparation.

**Milestone Numbers:**

* The Austrian Grand Prix featured several milestone achievements, including:
* Max Verstappen's 21st win in 14 months, equaling Kimi Raikkonen's tally over 19 seasons.
* Red Bull Racing's 101st victory, solidifying their position as one of the most successful teams in Formula One history.
* Lando Norris's 100th Grand Prix start, marking a significant milestone in his career. **Inside Line F1 Podcast: Austrian Grand Prix Review**

**Key Points:**

* The Austrian Grand Prix witnessed an unprecedented number of track limit violations, resulting in over 1,200 potential breaches, 83 lap times deleted, and numerous post-race time penalties.


* Max Verstappen's dominance continued, with the race marking his 32nd victory since 2021, equaling Fernando Alonso's tally over the past two decades.


* Verstappen also achieved the longest consecutive laps led in Formula 1 history, surpassing Ayrton Senna and Alberto Ascari, and became the only driver to earn 34 points in a race weekend twice.


* Charles Leclerc led the race for 10 laps, the longest stint for a non-Red Bull driver since George Russell at the 2022 Sao Paulo Grand Prix.


* McLaren's performance in Austria was encouraging, with Lando Norris securing P4, attributed to cooler conditions and upgrades to the car.


* The FIA's handling of track limit violations was questioned, with drivers expressing confusion and frustration over the lack of real-time notifications.


* The podcast hosts discussed the upcoming British Grand Prix and invited listeners to join them for a live race screening event in Mumbai.

**Summary:**

The Inside Line F1 Podcast delved into the intricacies of the Austrian Grand Prix, focusing on the extraordinary number of track limit violations and the subsequent penalties. The hosts analyzed Max Verstappen's continued dominance, highlighting his impressive statistics and achievements. They also acknowledged Charles Leclerc's brief lead and McLaren's promising performance, particularly with the upgrades to their car. The podcast addressed the FIA's controversial handling of track limit violations, expressing empathy for the drivers' confusion and frustration. The hosts concluded by discussing the upcoming British Grand Prix and extended an invitation to listeners to join them for a live race screening event in Mumbai.

[00:00.000 -> 00:25.880] What just happened? Was that a race? Or was that just a challenge from the FIA to check how many
[00:25.880 -> 00:31.680] times they can constantly keep checking if half an inch of a tire is outside a
[00:31.680 -> 00:35.600] line that's actually not meant to be the limit because we all think that the
[00:35.600 -> 00:39.440] white line is the limit but it's not anymore so it's the curb so you can't
[00:39.440 -> 00:46.160] exceed it but if you do you get a penalty. Track limits are... First infringement that's
[00:46.160 -> 00:52.840] your first violation for this episode already. First vio... okay whatever okay but
[00:52.840 -> 00:59.880] track limits are... It's so far... Second because that's the second. Oh goodness
[00:59.880 -> 01:06.600] are we doing it again now? I mean I had to. How many are we gonna end up with Kunal?
[01:06.600 -> 01:10.800] Are we gonna end up with twelve hundred mentions of the word track limits
[01:10.800 -> 01:15.920] because that is what the FIA did yesterday. Why don't we just ask our
[01:15.920 -> 01:20.640] listeners to count at the end of the whole episode but oh my goodness I
[01:20.640 -> 01:28.600] couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe what was actually happening and I'll tell you where when I realized what was happening and I know
[01:28.600 -> 01:31.880] you're yet to introduce the show yet to introduce all of us but I have to say
[01:31.880 -> 01:36.360] this Nico Hulkenberg and I you know there are personal reasons why I follow
[01:36.360 -> 01:41.040] his race a little bit more closely than some everybody else's right Nico
[01:41.040 -> 01:46.160] Hulkenberg parks on the on the. He says, I have no power.
[01:46.160 -> 01:49.160] And then I'm seeing the race control dashboard saying,
[01:49.160 -> 01:52.360] Niko Hulkenberg, you know, track limits, track limits.
[01:52.360 -> 01:56.200] And then suddenly five laps after he's retired,
[01:56.200 -> 02:00.800] he gets a black and white flag and then a time penalty.
[02:00.800 -> 02:03.560] And I'm like, okay, I know what's happening.
[02:03.560 -> 02:07.120] We are all on lap 24. But race control
[02:07.120 -> 02:14.720] is still on lap 18 or something. And that's, that's the moot reason why Aston Martin actually
[02:14.720 -> 02:20.080] protested because they realized that the checkered flag had dropped in the eyes of the television and
[02:20.080 -> 02:29.040] Formula One and all of that. But race control was still several laps before. So in terms of managing all the beep track limit violations.
[02:29.040 -> 02:32.880] Well, we've already gone to seven mentions of track limits.
[02:32.880 -> 02:34.320] I think let's keep a target Kunal.
[02:34.320 -> 02:38.120] Let's not go beyond 50.
[02:38.120 -> 02:39.600] I think 50 is a reasonable amount
[02:39.600 -> 02:41.440] considering how many the drivers have had.
[02:41.440 -> 02:43.080] Well, let's just do the math, right?
[02:43.080 -> 02:46.160] We had 1 had 1200 infringements
[02:46.960 -> 02:53.680] in one race. 71 laps, Kunal. If we do the math, that's roughly what? I think you mentioned it
[02:53.680 -> 02:57.360] to me in the morning. It's too early for me to sort of figure out. But what? 60 odd infringements
[02:57.360 -> 03:07.900] per lap? 60 odd infringements per lap. No, it's 60 odd infringements per driver over a 71 lap race, which means almost,
[03:07.900 -> 03:12.140] almost one infringement per lap, right?
[03:12.140 -> 03:16.740] And still sticking on to the mat, a 71 lap race,
[03:16.740 -> 03:21.740] 20 drivers into two corners is roughly 2,480
[03:22.060 -> 03:24.300] possible violations.
[03:24.300 -> 03:27.120] And the drivers had more than 1, 1200. The FIA after a point
[03:27.120 -> 03:32.160] was just like oh my god you know let's not reveal the actual number but I can
[03:32.160 -> 03:39.580] tell you Samuel without any guarantees but this was just the FIA bearing the
[03:39.580 -> 03:42.360] brunt of the drivers. The drivers probably had a drivers briefing after
[03:42.360 -> 03:48.160] all the Friday Saturday violations and said you know what let's gang up, let's all of us go
[03:48.160 -> 03:53.420] all out every lap and let's leave it to the FI to do what they have to do. Yeah
[03:53.420 -> 03:56.780] exactly I mean after a point you can't even do anything in that case as well
[03:56.780 -> 04:02.060] because you as a driver just cannot see and I before the start of this episode
[04:02.060 -> 04:05.880] was thinking okay well maybe one driver has got it right.
[04:06.040 -> 04:09.520] And then maybe we can use that driver as an example and say, yes,
[04:09.560 -> 04:13.120] if one driver can do it, all the other 19 drivers should follow.
[04:13.320 -> 04:17.160] But guess what Kunal, we thought that one driver got it right, Esteban Ocon,
[04:17.360 -> 04:21.120] and eventually he got the biggest penalty of them all,
[04:21.200 -> 04:27.680] 30 seconds after the race was over. It is, yeah, it's track limits.
[04:27.680 -> 04:33.760] The other driver who actually did not have track limit violations also was George Russell,
[04:33.760 -> 04:40.640] right? But yes, Ocon is just more fun to discuss, more fun to make fun of because he's had what,
[04:40.640 -> 04:46.080] three time penalties in the opening lap of the opening race of the season. Thought couldn't get worse.
[04:46.080 -> 04:49.280] He got four, there's four or five this time or six actually.
[04:49.280 -> 04:52.520] But it's a very Hollywood like thing, isn't it?
[04:52.520 -> 04:54.880] He's getting all the drama in the world.
[04:54.880 -> 04:56.360] I wonder where it comes from.
[04:56.360 -> 04:57.360] Maybe the owners?
[04:57.360 -> 05:05.840] It comes from the new owners, the 200 million that investment that Hollywood Group has made.
[05:05.840 -> 05:12.160] But Somil, one sec, we cannot fault Esteban Ocon for this. We cannot, we should not, on a very
[05:12.160 -> 05:17.280] serious note. Yes, we've just sort of made a fun joke about him. And the reason why I say this is,
[05:18.880 -> 05:29.280] through the race, Esteban Ocon wasn't notified even once that he was violating. So he kept doing what he thought he was doing right, that he was not violating.
[05:29.280 -> 05:31.200] And the truth is he actually kept violating.
[05:31.200 -> 05:35.960] But since race control, race control were probably focusing on the other 19 drivers
[05:35.960 -> 05:39.320] or 18 drivers and not so much on Ocon and Russell, they didn't tell him.
[05:39.320 -> 05:41.080] So he didn't know, he kept doing what he had to do.
[05:41.080 -> 05:42.620] So he kept violating.
[05:42.620 -> 05:45.520] And then suddenly post-race it's like boom that's it
[05:45.520 -> 05:52.960] you know what you went all out but this is where why is Alpine not protesting because all of this
[05:52.960 -> 06:01.600] seems like human it everything is human adjudicated right will the FIA release an audit of how they
[06:01.600 -> 06:08.180] actually did this how did they you know go through all the violations how did they put the time penalties how do they
[06:08.180 -> 06:10.860] delete lap times how do they come up with a final result because the final
[06:10.860 -> 06:16.020] result actually is not changed much I mean except for Aston Martin gaining a
[06:16.020 -> 06:19.380] few more points the final result hasn't really changed much despite all that
[06:19.380 -> 06:24.420] drama. Wait a second are you just suggesting that the FI is going to be
[06:24.420 -> 06:25.720] transparent I don't know I don't think that happened before right I think they Wait a second, are you just suggesting that the FI is going to be transparent?
[06:25.720 -> 06:26.720] I don't know.
[06:26.720 -> 06:27.960] I don't think that happened before.
[06:27.960 -> 06:28.960] Right?
[06:28.960 -> 06:32.720] I think they tried to be once, but they made a big grand report of 20 odd pages with a
[06:32.720 -> 06:36.200] lot of stuff written in it that mentioned that they made a mistake, but still didn't
[06:36.200 -> 06:39.680] mention that we made a mistake and eventually ended up with no change whatsoever.
[06:39.680 -> 06:40.680] Rings a bell?
[06:40.680 -> 06:41.680] No?
[06:41.680 -> 06:42.680] Yeah.
[06:42.680 -> 06:48.900] Well, my timeline is filled with A Abu Dhabi 2021 references throughout.
[06:48.900 -> 06:52.300] But, but, but, but looping back to the whole point on Esteban Ocon,
[06:52.300 -> 06:55.500] it's funny because now Alpine are going to sit down, have a one hour
[06:55.500 -> 06:59.600] meeting about this, about how can we not violate track limits and the
[06:59.600 -> 07:02.300] next race that we go to, they'll end up getting a penalty for track
[07:02.300 -> 07:02.800] limits again.
[07:02.800 -> 07:09.200] So it's just the way life is, just the way life is if you're an Alpine fan. But I want to talk about this for a
[07:09.200 -> 07:14.640] second as well about how inconsistent things are. On a serious note, okay wait, it's been seven
[07:14.640 -> 07:19.280] minutes, we haven't introduced ourselves. We get carried away sometimes, a lot like the drivers,
[07:19.280 -> 07:25.440] a lot like Lewis Hamilton who also ended up complaining so much on the radio and had to become a part-time race
[07:25.440 -> 07:31.520] steward. But this is the Inside Line F1 podcast, strategically named so because we know that on
[07:31.520 -> 07:36.640] the outside line you get track limits penalties. My name is Somal Arora, I'm the host of the Indian
[07:36.640 -> 07:41.920] Racing League on Starsports. Joining me as always is Kunal Shah, the former marketing head of the
[07:41.920 -> 07:45.680] Force India F1 team, the scout and the head of the
[07:45.680 -> 07:50.720] Force India driver academy in the past, and also an FIA accredited Formula One journalist.
[07:50.720 -> 07:55.840] We're also going to have F1 stats guru on the show, who is now a part of the WTF1 talent
[07:55.840 -> 07:58.960] roster as well for his stats review of this race.
[07:58.960 -> 08:01.400] But let's get into track limits again.
[08:01.400 -> 08:02.880] Do we want to talk about it more?
[08:02.880 -> 08:04.240] No, we have to.
[08:04.240 -> 08:05.040] We have to.
[08:05.040 -> 08:11.880] It's a big serious problem. I am telling you the FIA just bore the brunt of
[08:11.880 -> 08:15.080] drivers ganging up. That's what I said at the start of the show. I think that's the
[08:15.080 -> 08:19.080] smartest thing I'm gonna say till such time they find a solution. The day the
[08:19.080 -> 08:23.520] drivers gang up against the FIA, this is what happens. But what could be the
[08:23.520 -> 08:27.920] solution? Literally, because we still have the drivers trying to police it.
[08:27.920 -> 08:30.200] Yes, we saw that the FIA were a few laps behind,
[08:30.200 -> 08:31.640] which is fair.
[08:31.640 -> 08:33.620] And I wonder operationally, right?
[08:33.620 -> 08:35.720] How many people did they hire, Kunal?
[08:35.720 -> 08:38.720] Because I saw when I was going past to Dadar Social
[08:38.720 -> 08:41.800] for our amazing post-race and pre-race event yesterday,
[08:41.800 -> 08:43.720] I went past DCS's office,
[08:43.720 -> 08:48.240] because it's just on the way, right? And the lights were on all the way through the night. People were
[08:48.240 -> 08:51.040] working there. I'm sure I'm sure they must have outsourced this to some random
[08:51.040 -> 08:56.680] Indian call center company right but... And TCS is anyway an official partner of
[08:56.680 -> 09:03.240] Formula One still in Tata Communications. But yes I think they need to ramp up
[09:03.240 -> 09:05.320] there. They need to scale up their operations if
[09:05.320 -> 09:07.880] they're going to continue to do this manually.
[09:07.880 -> 09:13.540] I mean, frankly, every single person that I spoke to, and I speak to a lot of people
[09:13.540 -> 09:16.640] during Formula One weekends, mind you guys, okay, as does Samuel.
[09:16.640 -> 09:22.680] Samuel was hosting this crazy race screening with about 80 people in the house going raging
[09:22.680 -> 09:25.360] about their drivers and some amazing,
[09:25.360 -> 09:26.800] and a fantastic quiz, which, you know,
[09:26.800 -> 09:28.400] we should at some point do it online,
[09:28.400 -> 09:30.960] but anyway, that's for another time.
[09:30.960 -> 09:34.160] The people I spoke to, every person thought
[09:34.160 -> 09:36.440] that they were track limit sensors
[09:36.440 -> 09:38.780] that were doing this automatically.
[09:38.780 -> 09:40.520] There were a couple of AI experts, you know,
[09:40.520 -> 09:42.320] everybody wants to be an AI expert, right?
[09:42.320 -> 09:43.520] With all the Twitter threads saying,
[09:43.520 -> 09:45.920] five things you need to learn about AI and so on.
[09:45.920 -> 09:48.040] Maybe we need to get the FIA to read about that.
[09:48.040 -> 09:52.000] But the AI experts were saying, put a sensor,
[09:52.000 -> 09:54.240] there's a techno fix, there's an algorithm,
[09:54.240 -> 09:55.080] it'll do this.
[09:55.080 -> 09:58.320] And I said, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I agree.
[09:58.320 -> 10:00.520] But the fact that it actually came out of this
[10:00.520 -> 10:02.880] is that it's all human done.
[10:02.880 -> 10:06.320] And the chances of human error when it comes to the
[10:06.320 -> 10:13.360] FIA is incredibly high as we know and I'm making a reference to you know a term that's been trend
[10:13.360 -> 10:17.600] that's been trending after Abu Dhabi 2021 but no I'm not trying to polarize the fan base though the
[10:17.600 -> 10:27.360] point is now we know it's actually human. I'm a little shocked that the world's most tech advanced sport doesn't have tech
[10:28.400 -> 10:32.240] to pull these track limits. And you asked an interesting question, what should we do?
[10:32.960 -> 10:39.440] I think gravel is not an answer, even though I think it is an answer. I would say just leave
[10:39.440 -> 10:43.840] it to the drivers, let them figure out where the track starts and ends and let it go.
[10:43.840 -> 10:46.000] And maybe that'll also add to entertainment.
[10:46.000 -> 10:51.000] It's much like how, you know, now there's this whole debate about 2026.
[10:51.000 -> 10:56.000] The cars are getting heavier and heavier and just being added, you know, more and more weight.
[10:56.000 -> 11:05.000] It's like as Formula 1 gets older, it's just adding more weight to its body mass, you know, as much like we all humans do.
[11:05.160 -> 11:08.800] The teams have said, TRFI, remove a weight limit,
[11:08.800 -> 11:11.260] leave it to us to make the lightest cars we can,
[11:11.260 -> 11:12.880] which sounds interesting, right?
[11:12.880 -> 11:14.300] Do the same thing with track limits.
[11:14.300 -> 11:17.100] Tell the drivers, here's a track, go racing, no problem.
[11:17.100 -> 11:17.940] Make it happen.
[11:17.940 -> 11:22.860] And of course, maybe that way also has potential pitfalls,
[11:22.860 -> 11:24.840] but it just seems, sounds more fun
[11:24.840 -> 11:25.840] rather than finding out five,
[11:25.840 -> 11:30.720] six hours after a race what has happened. No, actually let's just evaluate this for a minute
[11:30.720 -> 11:37.120] because we have to then also speak a lot more about Max and also the fact that someone apart
[11:37.120 -> 11:42.560] from Max has led a lap in a race for the first time in ages, but we will get to that in a second.
[11:42.560 -> 11:49.280] I want to stay on this chat because legitimately, right, we all think that gravel is the solution, as you rightly mentioned, Gunaal, it's not,
[11:49.280 -> 11:53.520] because let's not forget there is a world outside of Formula One and gravel traps, although they
[11:53.520 -> 11:58.400] might not beat Formula One cars, they will beat motorbikes, they will beat Formula Three cars,
[11:58.400 -> 12:03.440] they will beat sports cars, and those things are hard to get out. And you could just say,
[12:03.440 -> 12:05.360] okay, well, the marshals will bring a tractor
[12:05.360 -> 12:06.580] and things can be easy, right?
[12:06.580 -> 12:07.720] Well, not if you're a paid driver
[12:07.720 -> 12:09.240] and you're paying by the hour.
[12:09.240 -> 12:11.400] And if you have a marshal coming into the circuit
[12:11.400 -> 12:13.280] taking 15 minutes to get your car off,
[12:13.280 -> 12:16.160] well, that's a quarter of your hour basically gone.
[12:16.160 -> 12:18.760] So that's not really a legitimate solution
[12:18.760 -> 12:20.000] to find a way out, right?
[12:20.000 -> 12:23.160] And on that subject of drivers deciding,
[12:23.160 -> 12:25.720] I think we're just going back to square one,
[12:25.720 -> 12:28.520] or I think square zero, because we've always,
[12:28.520 -> 12:29.520] I think it's silly, right?
[12:29.520 -> 12:31.220] Cricket has been around forever.
[12:31.220 -> 12:33.220] They've made sure that if you tie a match
[12:33.220 -> 12:34.600] at the end of a game,
[12:34.600 -> 12:37.400] and the scores are still tied in the first super over,
[12:37.400 -> 12:38.640] there has to be a second super over.
[12:38.640 -> 12:40.800] They've of course made that mistake and learned.
[12:40.800 -> 12:42.240] Football has made that mistake and learned
[12:42.240 -> 12:44.620] about offside and VAR and all that.
[12:44.620 -> 12:48.960] But racing just hasn't for some reason, Kunal. I don't know why. It's meant to be the most tech
[12:48.960 -> 12:54.400] heavy, the most advanced, but it's a sport where the rules are always grey. The only correct rule
[12:54.400 -> 12:59.280] is you just have to be first to win, but everything else across categories is all just different.
[12:59.280 -> 13:03.520] Why can't we even agree on what is fair racing as well in the first place? Because this week for
[13:03.520 -> 13:09.120] once, we got to see some really fair racing, but I'm sure two weeks down the line when we go to a track where racing
[13:09.120 -> 13:14.480] is more tricky the FIA will have problems on that as well so I wonder why this happens in the first
[13:14.480 -> 13:20.080] place like what is racing meant to be? And you're right it literally seems like you know make it
[13:20.080 -> 13:25.200] along on the way as you go kind of approach when it comes to governance.
[13:25.200 -> 13:28.400] And I don't know, despite all of this,
[13:28.400 -> 13:29.680] sport is flourishing,
[13:29.680 -> 13:32.280] teams have multi-billion dollar valuations,
[13:32.280 -> 13:34.160] more and more fans are being added
[13:34.160 -> 13:36.200] to everything that's happening.
[13:36.200 -> 13:39.320] And I think it's just how the FIA
[13:39.320 -> 13:41.320] and Formula One will end up being.
[13:41.320 -> 13:42.520] And I keep wondering,
[13:42.520 -> 13:45.040] what if Aston Martin hadn't
[13:45.040 -> 13:49.640] protested okay what would have happened we would have all been like oh wow that
[13:49.640 -> 13:53.000] was a fantastic race race control would have said okay let's forget the last
[13:53.000 -> 13:57.800] eight or eleven laps that we've still not sort of seen and let's move on
[13:57.800 -> 14:06.240] because interestingly and I keep doing this I'm'm on Twitter, at the rate, Kunal A. Shah,
[14:06.240 -> 14:08.040] for anybody who wants to follow.
[14:08.040 -> 14:10.600] I tweet out a lot of driver radio messages
[14:10.600 -> 14:11.920] that don't make it to the feed.
[14:11.920 -> 14:14.100] In fact, all of them that don't make it to the feed.
[14:14.100 -> 14:17.080] And Fernando Alonso's post-race driver message
[14:17.080 -> 14:20.260] literally said, we are within 10 seconds of Carlos Sainz.
[14:20.260 -> 14:22.920] And guess who benefited from that protest?
[14:22.920 -> 14:32.480] Fernando Alonso. And seriously, I mean, this race was also a proof that the stewards actually had enough.
[14:32.480 -> 14:34.800] And they sent things back to race control saying,
[14:34.800 -> 14:37.120] Dear race control, please deal with the mess.
[14:37.840 -> 14:42.800] And Austrian Grand Prix has been extended till 2030.
[14:42.800 -> 14:45.760] So I really hope that they are able to find a
[14:45.760 -> 14:51.520] solution to all of this and and if the FIA transparency all of that all of
[14:51.520 -> 14:55.480] those questions Somal, yes I would love to read an audit report of how exactly
[14:55.480 -> 15:02.040] all of this happened. Unlikely, unlikely but we will see on that front. I want to
[15:02.040 -> 15:05.840] for a second now talk about Ferrari. I think that's enough on enough on
[15:05.840 -> 15:11.840] track limits to the point where I think it's a little the whole situation is a little bit overkill
[15:11.840 -> 15:18.720] but I want to talk about Ferrari for a second because for once we saw them have things work out
[15:18.720 -> 15:26.080] and even in this whole controlled chaos where eventually Ferrari got the best possible result. Penalty aside, I think let's
[15:26.080 -> 15:32.640] focus on what happened on the track not off it. Wink wink, nudge nudge. But we have to talk about
[15:32.640 -> 15:37.280] the whole strategy game because when Ferrari had that double stack Kunal, it seemed like,
[15:37.280 -> 15:43.760] why are you doing something that you know you can't do? When they had a 4.5 second pit stop
[15:43.760 -> 15:46.160] each, it's like, come on, man, you should have seen
[15:46.160 -> 15:51.040] this coming. But even in all this controlled chaos, it ended up working. Although they had
[15:51.040 -> 15:55.200] the faster driver behind, which is not really meant to happen at the end of the day, with Carlos
[15:55.200 -> 16:00.560] Sainz eventually getting the chequered flag in P4 and then falling all the way back. At the end,
[16:01.280 -> 16:08.240] I think it's the best that they could have done. Because what else would they have done? Their pace in qualifying and all the entire field was bunched up by just eight tenths,
[16:08.240 -> 16:12.560] which is amazing. But their pace in qualifying was right up there. They're dead, although it
[16:12.560 -> 16:18.560] became a problem towards the end, but it wasn't as bad as it used to be. So I think the signs,
[16:18.560 -> 16:23.600] not out of science, but the signs generally are looking bright. And in this P2 battle,
[16:23.600 -> 16:25.200] we both didn't even
[16:25.200 -> 16:26.920] pick Ferrari, any of their drivers,
[16:26.920 -> 16:28.680] to finish in P2 this weekend.
[16:28.680 -> 16:32.160] I think that, to me, is the beauty of this weekend.
[16:32.160 -> 16:34.360] I think you picked Hamilton, I picked Alonso,
[16:34.360 -> 16:36.280] or the other way around, or something.
[16:36.280 -> 16:40.520] And the two of them were nowhere close to the podium
[16:40.520 -> 16:42.040] whatsoever.
[16:42.040 -> 16:46.080] And just goes to show that if you take Max Verstappen out of the
[16:46.080 -> 16:51.920] equation the battle is genuinely awesome behind them I mean and Ferrari got it
[16:51.920 -> 16:55.440] right two races in a row let's remember that the previous race also they got it
[16:55.440 -> 17:00.520] right of the whatever safety car they didn't pay they made positions and you
[17:00.520 -> 17:09.360] know to put it bluntly yes yes, the slower driver finished ahead. They told, they used team orders and sort of reined in Carlos Sainz, which
[17:09.360 -> 17:13.240] I'm sure he was angry about because Carlos Sainz was angry about a lot of
[17:13.240 -> 17:15.960] things and you spoke about the slow stops and the double stacks.
[17:15.960 -> 17:21.160] Imagine Ferrari's margin of error that despite being so quick in pit stops
[17:21.160 -> 17:31.440] throughout the whole season, they actually messed up in Austria, but still had enough of a margin to go back and claim those positions that they sort of lost, right? But
[17:32.480 -> 17:39.120] we, you know, whether it's a good race or a bad race, Ferrari's pit wall always bears the brunt
[17:39.120 -> 17:47.520] of Carlos Sainz's frustration on the radio. Doesn't matter. He is incredibly honest open. He's very Marco-like on
[17:47.520 -> 17:52.080] the radio. But guys, we should have extended and then the favorite radio message of it all.
[17:52.960 -> 18:01.280] Checo is intimidating me. I have no clue. I mean, isn't going wheel to wheel in every sort of
[18:01.280 -> 18:07.120] intimidation? It can be. I be I mean firstly helmets off to Carlos
[18:07.120 -> 18:12.680] Sainz brilliant defense against Checo Perez. Why is helmets off to Carlos?
[18:12.680 -> 18:16.360] I mean instead of the hats off the helmets off is my motorcade version I was
[18:16.360 -> 18:23.640] saying yeah I thought helmet is off to Carlos. Oh no god damn it maybe we've had him on
[18:23.640 -> 18:31.120] the podcast I'm thinking about him way too much. What do you say? Yeah, so great defense against
[18:31.120 -> 18:34.720] Checo and yes that intimidating thing you're gonna hear it back in the
[18:34.720 -> 18:40.840] midseason review, you'll hear it back in the postseason, inside line, F1 parody
[18:40.840 -> 18:45.800] awards and whatnot. But I was amazed at that radio message. Yeah it was
[18:45.800 -> 18:50.740] very intimidating. I think if racing drivers end up seeing this when they're
[18:50.740 -> 18:54.860] racing on track I think it's about time they go home because if a racing driver
[18:54.860 -> 18:58.980] is intimidating you by just being there I'm sure it's great to hear the
[18:58.980 -> 19:03.320] psychology behind it because we never quite get to see drivers that open but
[19:03.320 -> 19:06.240] if you're being intimidated by that, probably the
[19:06.240 -> 19:11.680] wrong sport mate but it is fun. I think eventually all that happened, all the chaos that was fun
[19:11.680 -> 19:18.320] and I want to talk about this fact as well that we got to see racing this weekend Kunal,
[19:18.320 -> 19:23.200] we really did. George Russell in the sprint was amazing, he had quite a few battles around the
[19:23.200 -> 19:30.000] outside here and there. Esteban Ocon got his elbows out quite a fair bit. Lando Norris, of course, anti stall happened and
[19:30.000 -> 19:34.960] then he couldn't quite get a move on. So that's why he had to be a little frisky. Even in yesterday's
[19:34.960 -> 19:41.680] race, his fight with Carlos Sainz was A1, chef's kiss. Carlos Sainz's fight with Sergio Perez was
[19:41.680 -> 19:45.880] beautiful as well. This is just one circuit that makes you realize how...
[19:45.880 -> 19:49.800] It's not that hard to get Formula 1 cars fighting and I think...
[19:49.800 -> 19:54.800] With these cars, because they're bulkier, because they're trickier to follow, because they're harder to make move around...
[19:54.800 -> 19:58.280] You just appreciate each battle a little bit more.
[19:58.280 -> 19:59.680] And I feel...
[19:59.680 -> 20:02.540] The only key to success for good racing, Kunal, is...
[20:02.540 -> 20:06.980] Just increase the braking distances because we saw in the sprint the fact that the braking distances were longer
[20:06.980 -> 20:11.360] gave so much more volatility and drivers could fight everywhere. Isn't that what
[20:11.360 -> 20:15.640] we all love to see at the end of the day? My goodness you have packed in so much
[20:15.640 -> 20:18.840] information in the last couple of minutes that I don't know what to pick
[20:18.840 -> 20:27.060] next but yes I think the racing was fantastic and the sprint gave us a different way of racing
[20:27.060 -> 20:31.140] around Austria because of the whole conditions changing and you know from
[20:31.140 -> 20:35.060] wet to dry and somewhere in the middle and all of that and then Sunday was a
[20:35.060 -> 20:40.580] purely dry race again very very interesting battles that happened but I
[20:40.580 -> 20:45.640] am gonna pick on Saturday first. Firstly, Ferrari messed up the Saturday.
[20:45.640 -> 20:49.400] And, you know, Charles Leclerc, for all that talent,
[20:49.400 -> 20:51.760] all the charisma he brings, and all the empathy
[20:51.760 -> 20:54.120] that he also evokes from all of us,
[20:54.120 -> 20:55.560] actually turned around and said,
[20:55.560 -> 20:57.000] I'm good in the wet, I'm good in the dry,
[20:57.000 -> 20:59.200] I'm not good when it's half wet, half dry,
[20:59.200 -> 21:01.080] and I don't know why I can't extract things.
[21:01.080 -> 21:03.520] And that's a bit strange, because you'd assume that,
[21:03.520 -> 21:05.440] you know, the team and
[21:05.440 -> 21:09.840] the driver would know how to extract the most of any situation by the time they get into Formula
[21:09.840 -> 21:17.840] One but okay that's one part. Talking of the sprint Max Verstappen, Checo Perez on the start
[21:17.840 -> 21:28.800] opening at the start opening lap, Checo gets a run in and then Max into turn three. That was Max Verstappen annoyed at his best.
[21:28.800 -> 21:31.560] He was like, I am not gonna make the corner.
[21:31.560 -> 21:33.840] I'm not gonna let you make the corner.
[21:33.840 -> 21:35.560] And if you wanna make the corner,
[21:35.560 -> 21:37.120] you gotta turn in and hit me,
[21:37.120 -> 21:40.080] which was what Hamilton Rosberg did in 2016.
[21:40.080 -> 21:43.400] Because Verstappen braked really, really late.
[21:43.400 -> 21:45.120] And he was not braking for the corner.
[21:45.120 -> 21:47.120] He was not braking to turn in.
[21:47.120 -> 21:49.320] He was braking to slow down Checo Perez.
[21:49.320 -> 21:53.040] And I think Verstappen doesn't mind being beaten.
[21:53.040 -> 21:57.920] He just minds being beaten by Hamilton and Checo Perez.
[21:57.920 -> 22:01.520] I mean, that's just my reading, but yeah, okay.
[22:01.520 -> 22:05.000] And I think overall, let's applaud Max Verstappen.
[22:05.420 -> 22:07.300] You know, he scored the 34 points,
[22:07.300 -> 22:09.940] the 8% of all the points that were available in the season
[22:09.940 -> 22:11.700] with just so much ease.
[22:11.700 -> 22:15.840] His fifth win in Austria, Red Bull's 101st victory.
[22:18.260 -> 22:22.660] I think Max now has won as many races in the last 14 months,
[22:22.660 -> 22:28.720] 21 races as Kimi scored over 19 seasons in Formula 1.
[22:28.720 -> 22:29.760] OK.
[22:29.760 -> 22:33.440] And yeah, I mean, at the end of the day,
[22:33.440 -> 22:36.520] Samuel, there were two other drivers who had
[22:36.520 -> 22:38.040] very interesting radio messages.
[22:38.040 -> 22:40.480] We'll talk about Lewis Hamilton a little later in the show.
[22:40.480 -> 22:43.880] But Max Verstappen, two laps to the end,
[22:43.880 -> 22:46.800] actually forced Red Bull into making
[22:46.800 -> 22:51.920] a pit stop. And he had what, a two or three second margin on Charles Leclerc and he said
[22:51.920 -> 22:56.840] guys, but if we don't take the risk when we have 24 seconds of a margin, what's the point?
[22:56.840 -> 23:02.240] And guess what? Red Bull pitted. And then he still ended up what, finishing five seconds
[23:02.240 -> 23:05.480] ahead of Leclerc. So wow what a driver
[23:05.480 -> 23:11.120] it's great to see history being made. Yeah I think the more the races go on
[23:11.120 -> 23:17.040] the more you start to appreciate it. Of course it is boring but it's it's still
[23:17.040 -> 23:21.040] it puts you more in awe because you can't pull out a 21 second gap in a
[23:21.040 -> 23:28.480] sprint race. That is frankly unbelievable even after you've had a terrible lap one where you forced everyone to move around a
[23:28.480 -> 23:30.400] little bit, go for some really crazy moves.
[23:30.680 -> 23:33.400] Not to say that he's the cleanest in the world because we saw what happened in
[23:33.400 -> 23:37.600] qualifying where he intentionally impeded Lewis Hamilton and there's no two ways
[23:37.600 -> 23:40.800] about it, but in the race is just a class apart.
[23:40.800 -> 23:44.320] So that was our one minute for Max Verstappen and Red Bull Racing.
[23:44.320 -> 23:45.040] We're done
[23:45.040 -> 23:50.400] with it, done with the obligations. No, we'll actually tell you what makes Max so good because
[23:50.400 -> 23:55.920] Dr. Helmut Marko came on the InsideLine F1 podcast last week. And because it's Sebastian Vettel's
[23:55.920 -> 24:00.560] birthday when we're recording today as well, we thought, hey, why not ask Helmut Marko a week in
[24:00.560 -> 24:05.200] advance, how does he think Sebastian Vettel and Helmut Ma... ah, Sebastian Vettel
[24:05.200 -> 24:09.760] and Max Verstappen compare? So, let's hear from Dr. Marco himself about how two of his
[24:09.760 -> 24:15.040] greatest finds compare against each other. Sebastian and Max, they've contributed to
[24:15.040 -> 24:21.560] 79 of the 100 wins that Red Bull Racing has had. Two finds both made by you. What do you
[24:21.560 -> 24:31.280] see as the difference between the two of them,. Marco? First of all they are different characters, both completely focused on racing and they had an
[24:31.280 -> 24:40.080] unbelievable talent. Maybe Max is more natural, Seb is going into the smallest detail. To be an
[24:40.080 -> 24:50.560] engineer with him was not a nice time. If you want something he was and he was looking at looking at it there was no nothing what was by accident everything was
[24:50.560 -> 24:59.800] clearly planned and also executed in this way main difference maybe max does
[24:59.800 -> 25:06.080] it more easy it's more natural. But those are great drivers, no doubt.
[25:06.080 -> 25:08.080] More natural, Kunal.
[25:08.080 -> 25:09.000] That's a word.
[25:09.000 -> 25:09.880] That's a word to have.
[25:09.880 -> 25:13.080] And you could see Sergio Perez struggling to keep up
[25:13.080 -> 25:14.880] because in one qualifying session,
[25:14.880 -> 25:15.920] he absolutely nailed it.
[25:15.920 -> 25:17.080] Still not good enough.
[25:17.080 -> 25:18.160] But in the other one,
[25:18.160 -> 25:20.000] he just couldn't keep up with the natural talent.
[25:20.000 -> 25:21.720] P14 at the end of the day.
[25:21.720 -> 25:24.280] And that for me was such an utter disappointment
[25:24.280 -> 25:28.580] because if anything, he should have been there. he should have been challenging but I think at this
[25:28.580 -> 25:32.860] point it makes no sense right because we've been saying this forever so it's just light
[25:32.860 -> 25:35.780] pass it doesn't even make sense anymore to talk about it.
[25:35.780 -> 25:41.500] I'll tell you what else didn't make sense to me, the Mercedes on the Sunday was really
[25:41.500 -> 25:45.280] bad but Toto Wolf actually went on to the radio
[25:45.280 -> 25:51.840] saying, Lewis, we know the car is really bad, please drive it. I couldn't get my
[25:51.840 -> 25:58.600] hands around the whole pleading. I mean, A, he is being paid millions of dollars or
[25:58.600 -> 26:04.240] pounds or euros, whatever currency works for you, to race that car. So it's not
[26:04.240 -> 26:05.120] that he's doing it for free
[26:05.120 -> 26:07.160] and then he's hanging around the back of the circuit.
[26:07.160 -> 26:09.720] Yes, it's not the car, but hey, it was on the podium,
[26:09.720 -> 26:11.360] just to race a goal.
[26:11.360 -> 26:15.080] So life is always gonna have fluctuations,
[26:15.080 -> 26:17.560] back and forth, and some good days, some bad days,
[26:17.560 -> 26:18.380] some great days.
[26:18.380 -> 26:21.320] Lewis keeps saying this all the time in his interviews.
[26:21.320 -> 26:23.720] He's so grateful for everything that comes.
[26:23.720 -> 26:29.360] I just couldn't wrap my head around the whole pleading and I know I polarized the fan base on
[26:29.360 -> 26:34.020] Twitter, my Twitter still beeping even you know 36 hours after I said it. I said
[26:34.020 -> 26:39.320] there are at least 12 other drivers who would die to race that Mercedes okay and
[26:39.320 -> 26:43.360] then boom this is where I think I polarized the fan bases even on the
[26:43.360 -> 26:50.240] podcast. So I couldn't get my my you know wrap my head around that whole please drive the car thing I mean he's being paid to
[26:50.240 -> 26:56.400] drive that car it just happens to be bad on this particular day but hey it's your choice you drive
[26:56.400 -> 27:02.160] it or not. So what's Lewis going to get at the end of this race because the fans got a letter last
[27:02.160 -> 27:08.520] year from a series performing poorly. Lewis definitely is getting a few million dollars after this race but yeah
[27:08.520 -> 27:15.600] fans get a letter, Lewis gets all the notes. I mean the printed notes. It's funny
[27:15.600 -> 27:19.680] how it works though and I love it because you can get to see who he is in
[27:19.680 -> 27:23.760] the moment. I'm getting a little philosophical about this I'll admit but
[27:23.760 -> 27:25.160] isn't it fun that
[27:25.160 -> 27:29.760] we get to see what the driver thinks of? And I love Lewis for that. It surely might not
[27:29.760 -> 27:35.320] be the most ideal situation because he preaches to be grateful, to be tough in the moment,
[27:35.320 -> 27:39.680] but it only goes to show that he's human. And suddenly all the Red Bull fans hate me
[27:39.680 -> 27:42.960] because I've only given one minute to Max and two minutes to Lewis and I'm talking about
[27:42.960 -> 27:46.020] how Lewis is human and okay know okay but the point is I
[27:46.020 -> 27:50.880] appreciate emotion because that's what makes you feel connected to a racing driver and Lewis Hamilton is
[27:51.520 -> 27:55.000] Definitely definitely still in showing that but emotion is one thing
[27:55.520 -> 27:59.760] Numbers are a different thing and this race Kunal had so many
[28:00.440 -> 28:02.120] Milestone numbers broken as well
[28:02.120 -> 28:09.120] So let's listen in to f1 stats crew who now of course is a part of the WTF1 talent roster as well and so fresh from
[28:09.120 -> 28:13.200] that he's got a stats review from the Austrian GP. Let's hear him out.
[28:13.200 -> 28:17.080] Hey folks it's time to do the stats review of the Austrian Grand Prix. My
[28:17.080 -> 28:20.800] name is Sundaram also known as the F1 stats guru. We are not going to be
[28:20.800 -> 28:24.400] talking about time penalties to be honest because there were 1200 potential
[28:24.400 -> 28:29.080] breaches, 83 lap times deleted and quite a few time penalties handed out.
[28:29.080 -> 28:35.200] I really don't remember seeing any other race in Formula 1 history handing out so many penalties,
[28:35.200 -> 28:36.880] post race especially.
[28:36.880 -> 28:41.040] So quite clearly this could be the race with the most time penalties ever.
[28:41.040 -> 28:44.600] But let's get straight into the numbers, because we have to talk about Max Verstappen and Red
[28:44.600 -> 28:45.400] Bull. Of course, Verstappen and Red Bull.
[28:45.400 -> 28:49.400] Of course, Verstappen led the first 24 laps of the race and then decided to come into
[28:49.400 -> 28:53.840] the pits, which saw him handing over the lead of the race to Charles Leclerc.
[28:53.840 -> 29:00.280] And that brought an end to Max Verstappen's very dominant lead at the front, 248 consecutive
[29:00.280 -> 29:01.280] laps.
[29:01.280 -> 29:10.120] That's actually the longest such streak in the past 35 years and the third longest streak overall for a driver at the front with only Ayrton Senna and Alberto Ascari
[29:10.120 -> 29:13.380] who have done longer laps at the front of the grid.
[29:13.380 -> 29:18.160] But these are now my favourite stats. You see, Verstappen has won 32 races since the
[29:18.160 -> 29:23.320] start of 2021, his first championship winning year. And that's the same number of wins that
[29:23.320 -> 29:29.920] Fernando Alonso has in the last two decades, since 2001. And all it's taken Verstappen is the last two and
[29:29.920 -> 29:35.360] a half years of Red Bull dominance. Very interesting. Verstappen also bagged the maximum points
[29:35.360 -> 29:39.740] available from the race week in 34 because he won the sprint race. He won the main Grand
[29:39.740 -> 29:44.400] Prix and he also took the fastest lap point. And he's only the second driver to do this.
[29:44.400 -> 29:49.160] George Russell was the only other one to do it in Brazil last year. But Verstappen is the only
[29:49.160 -> 29:54.280] one to do it twice, he actually took 34 points from last year's Imola race or the Emilia
[29:54.280 -> 29:55.280] Romagna Grand Prix.
[29:55.280 -> 29:59.400] And I've been waiting to mention this next stat, you see Verstappen has been leading
[29:59.400 -> 30:05.320] the world championship for 26 consecutive races and that marks the longest streak since Fernando
[30:05.320 -> 30:11.800] Alonso's 33 race lead in 2005 and 2006. And if he continues this way, Verstappen could
[30:11.800 -> 30:15.320] pretty much break that milestone as well later this year.
[30:15.320 -> 30:19.160] And lastly, Charles Leclerc led the Austrian Grand Prix for a total of 10 laps, and that's
[30:19.160 -> 30:24.440] the longest a non-Red Bull driver has been at the front of the pack since George Russell
[30:24.440 -> 30:25.200] at last year's
[30:25.200 -> 30:26.440] Sao Paulo Grand Prix.
[30:26.440 -> 30:31.520] It seems a bit of a rarity these days, seeing a non-Red Bull driver leading a race.
[30:31.520 -> 30:33.680] But that was the stats review of the Austrian Grand Prix.
[30:33.680 -> 30:35.000] I hope you folks enjoyed that.
[30:35.000 -> 30:38.960] For more such interesting stats and facts from this race weekend, do follow me on my
[30:38.960 -> 30:41.160] Twitter and Instagram under the name F1StatsGroup.
[30:41.160 -> 30:44.000] I'll see you folks very soon.
[30:44.000 -> 30:46.480] Welcome back in folks to the Insideline F1 podcast.
[30:47.200 -> 30:52.080] Ah, first time in ages that any driver apart from Max Verstappen has led a race.
[30:52.080 -> 30:58.480] But that's just one part of it. Before we end Kunal, McLaren is one thing we have to talk about.
[30:58.480 -> 31:02.640] I think it's the toughest team in the world to support mentally. They really play around with
[31:02.640 -> 31:07.400] their emotions a lot. And I know at this point, you'll stop me and say Ferrari but you're on the point to
[31:07.400 -> 31:11.160] get used to disappointment so I think let's just keep that aside but McLaren
[31:11.160 -> 31:15.160] really toy with your emotions huh. Oscar Piastri having such a crazy one and
[31:15.160 -> 31:18.800] then obviously melting your heart with that stupid meme that he's come up with
[31:18.800 -> 31:23.480] with a jetpack driver unfortunately crashing. He's okay the jetpack rider but
[31:23.480 -> 31:25.520] Piastri gave us that brilliant meme.
[31:25.520 -> 31:31.920] The jetpack driver busted track limits and how? He did, he did. He was actually, and you know what,
[31:31.920 -> 31:39.520] it was outside turn nine as well of all places in the world. So, I hope everybody paid homage
[31:39.520 -> 31:50.600] to turn nine and ten this weekend, I would say say maybe we should have recorded this right there sitting it's you know there itself someone saying there we go this is where
[31:50.600 -> 31:55.000] we are recording this is where all the track limits etc happened but you're
[31:55.000 -> 32:00.000] talking of McLaren the first person the first driver at least on the team radio
[32:00.000 -> 32:05.040] to turn into an FIA sensor was Lando Norris. He got Lewis Hamilton that
[32:05.040 -> 32:12.320] penalty. Let's remember. Did he just say that he turned into an FIA censor? With a straight face?
[32:12.320 -> 32:17.840] He turned Lewis Hamilton then into the penalty that you know he got that
[32:17.840 -> 32:23.320] penalty and then he turned Hamilton also into a censor. Hamilton's like I got a
[32:23.320 -> 32:25.280] penalty, he gets a penalty, you got a penalty, he gets a penalty,
[32:25.280 -> 32:27.480] you gets a penalty, she gets a penalty,
[32:27.480 -> 32:28.640] everybody gets a penalty.
[32:28.640 -> 32:30.000] But why aren't they getting a penalty?
[32:30.000 -> 32:31.400] Are you guys checking or not?
[32:31.400 -> 32:36.280] I mean, poor drivers, I feel really, really bad for them
[32:36.280 -> 32:40.600] that they had no clue if they were going off or not.
[32:40.600 -> 32:42.000] And by the time they were told,
[32:42.000 -> 32:44.120] you know, this is like the classic days of karting.
[32:44.120 -> 32:46.040] A lot of drivers said, racing in like the classic days of karting. A lot of drivers said racing in Australia
[32:46.040 -> 32:47.120] was like racing in karting.
[32:47.120 -> 32:50.040] In karting, when you go rental karting, Somil,
[32:50.040 -> 32:51.920] what's the worst thing that happens?
[32:51.920 -> 32:54.360] And I, you know, I used to work a lot with my dad
[32:54.360 -> 32:55.920] and my coach on this.
[32:55.920 -> 32:58.360] By the time you finish your 10 laps,
[32:58.360 -> 32:59.960] after you finish your 10 laps,
[32:59.960 -> 33:02.440] you're told lap three was your fastest
[33:02.440 -> 33:04.600] and you have no memory of where your lap three was.
[33:04.600 -> 33:05.440] Exactly.
[33:05.440 -> 33:09.760] You don't get real time timing in karting.
[33:09.760 -> 33:11.480] I mean, unless you put, you know,
[33:11.480 -> 33:13.720] you put a lot of electronics, which costs money.
[33:13.720 -> 33:14.760] This was the same thing.
[33:14.760 -> 33:15.760] You're on lap 25.
[33:15.760 -> 33:19.160] I said, by the way, lap 13, you had an infringement.
[33:19.160 -> 33:20.360] You've got to better remember.
[33:20.360 -> 33:22.920] You're like, hey, but I, lap 13 to lap 25,
[33:22.920 -> 33:27.400] I did the same thing all times over, times over. And, you know, it
[33:27.400 -> 33:30.200] just didn't make sense to me. But yes, you talk, you talked
[33:30.200 -> 33:34.120] about Oscar Piastri, not a sadly upgraded McLaren, Piastri, and
[33:34.440 -> 33:36.800] Piastri is going to get it in Silverstone. Let's see how that
[33:36.800 -> 33:39.640] goes. But before we wrap up, you know, something I'm still trying
[33:39.640 -> 33:49.760] to wrap up in my head, with over 1200 violations. Finally, the FIA deleted just 83 laps, okay.
[33:51.600 -> 33:55.080] That's less than 10% of the laps that actually got deleted,
[33:55.080 -> 33:57.840] which makes me wonder what happened
[33:57.840 -> 34:01.840] to the other 1117 violations,
[34:01.840 -> 34:06.480] because if there's a violation and there was this whole math, you know,
[34:06.480 -> 34:08.560] you get three strikes, the fourth strike,
[34:08.560 -> 34:10.320] you get a blackened, no, the three strikes
[34:10.320 -> 34:13.320] is a black and white flag, fourth strike is five seconds,
[34:13.320 -> 34:15.000] fifth strike is 10 seconds,
[34:15.000 -> 34:17.640] then the FIA made it up along the way even more.
[34:17.640 -> 34:19.280] Then they said, ah, there were too many,
[34:19.280 -> 34:21.160] you know, too many violations.
[34:21.160 -> 34:23.120] So after your fifth strike and 10 seconds,
[34:23.120 -> 34:29.080] you would get a reset, and then you'd start from zero again okay and yeah yeah that's true they have
[34:29.080 -> 34:32.520] actually written this down in the document I'm not making I am NOT making
[34:32.520 -> 34:38.080] things up as I go along 31 whatever 35 minutes into this episode but the FIA
[34:38.080 -> 34:47.080] literally did that so my point is it was a crazy, crazy race. Track limits, Austrian Grand Prix.
[34:47.080 -> 34:49.960] We've said that several years to the end.
[34:49.960 -> 34:53.320] I don't think we're going to stop saying this till 2030.
[34:53.320 -> 34:54.680] Yeah, exactly.
[34:54.680 -> 34:56.980] But one last note to close on.
[34:56.980 -> 35:00.280] We have to talk about McLaren, because this is huge.
[35:00.280 -> 35:03.840] P4 is frankly fantastic, Kunal.
[35:03.840 -> 35:06.240] And I know a lot of it could be attributed down to the cooler
[35:06.240 -> 35:12.640] conditions which just allow the tyres and the aero on the car to work better. Now the technicalities
[35:12.640 -> 35:17.920] behind it, I think you'd be much rather better be informed about that by someone like Giorgio
[35:17.920 -> 35:22.240] Piola who does the diagrams and understands the car that well. That's not who we are and that's
[35:22.240 -> 35:25.360] not what we're here for but quite simply Kunal this is
[35:25.360 -> 35:31.280] encouraging because even on Sunday yes it was what 22-24 odd degrees the track temperature
[35:31.280 -> 35:34.240] and everything the ambient temperature around there so track temperature must have been
[35:34.240 -> 35:40.400] slightly higher but nevertheless by conventional standards that's still a little towards the hotter
[35:40.400 -> 35:45.160] side and McLaren performed there as well. So it's not bad actually.
[35:45.160 -> 35:54.160] Yeah, McLaren actually told PS3 on the radio that the upgrades are working and that he
[35:54.160 -> 36:01.920] will have them next sort of race when he gets to race there, which is Silverstone.
[36:01.920 -> 36:03.820] But yeah, lots to look forward to.
[36:03.820 -> 36:05.200] It's already race week and we're going to have an exciting race is Silverstone. But yeah, lots to look forward to. It's already race week.
[36:05.200 -> 36:09.800] And we're going to have an exciting race in Silverstone.
[36:09.800 -> 36:14.440] We say that each time to promote Formula 1.
[36:14.440 -> 36:18.440] Unbiased, and that's about it.
[36:18.440 -> 36:22.160] I'm wanting to see what are the upgrades a lot of other teams
[36:22.160 -> 36:22.660] are bringing.
[36:22.660 -> 36:29.800] Because even with all those upgrades, Red Bull and Max Verstappen still are finishing miles
[36:29.800 -> 36:35.280] ahead of everybody else they can. I think I really appreciate what that reddit user
[36:35.280 -> 36:37.960] has done I don't know who it was but I was just scrolling through yesterday
[36:37.960 -> 36:42.000] they've taped Max Verstappen's name on the score sheet on the on the timing
[36:42.000 -> 36:45.040] sheet so everything else beyond that that is good so
[36:45.040 -> 36:51.120] congratulations to Sharla Clark what an amazing race win but join us next Sunday at Car Social
[36:51.120 -> 36:55.360] folks if you are in Mumbai we're going to be having another similar event to what we had at
[36:55.360 -> 37:00.080] Dadar Social this past Sunday and if you are listening in from that event guys thank you thank
[37:00.080 -> 37:04.400] you for coming it's amazing to hear your opinions in the pre-race and post-race show and we're going
[37:04.400 -> 37:07.800] to be having more of that along with the quiz, along with hopefully
[37:07.800 -> 37:09.000] a simulator there as well.
[37:09.000 -> 37:11.580] So hopefully we get to see you there this Sunday.
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[37:36.800 -> None] Don't exceed it. Bye bye. you