Was the Formula 1 Qatar GP Chaotic Good or Chaotic Bad? | Grid Walk October 12, 2023

Formula 1 is basically a traveling circus and the Qatar Grand Prix felt like that but on steroids! The entire weekend at the Qatar Grand Prix seemed like the most chaotic F1 race weekend so far! Briana and Nicole talked about everything that happened in Qatar and more on the new episode of Grid Walk!

Oscar Piastri finished P1 in the Sprint Race in Qatar!! Grid Walk has to take a moment to celebrate this awesome weekend for Mclaren F1 Team’s driver Oscar Piastri! Oscar Piastri was the bright spot in the middle of the chaotic race weekend. Briana shares her favorite Oscar Piastri moments from the Qatar Grand Prix weekend!

Almost every F1 driver appeared to be in rough shape after the grueling Qatar GP. Many F1 drivers were taken to the medical team, needed assistance getting out of cars, or were physically sick. Briana and Nicole discuss what should be done to better protect F1 drivers’ safety. Is the Qatar GP safe enough for F1 to continue racing?

There were several moments from the race weekend that just made us go “uhhhh..WTF?” Can you believe this moment at the Qatar Grand Prix solidified Max Verstappen’s Driver Championship? How was the Drivers Championship Trophy NOT ready for when Verstappen secured the championship after the F1 Sprint Race? Verstappen becoming a champion wasn’t a surprise!

The tire chaos of the Qatar GP went to a new level and it wasn’t the usual F1 tire strategy chaos! Pirelli had to put lap limits on the tires for the Qatar Grand Prix. Why did Pirelli have to implement this rule for Qatar? What the heck are “pyramid curbs?”

Briana & Nicole each have a Qatar GP podium dedicated to a different F1 team! Will Nicole ever learn her lesson when it comes to Scuderia Ferrari? Nicole shares the moments from the Qatar Grand Prix weekend that made her question why she ever put her F1 faith in Scuderia Ferrari? Was it possible for Carlos Sainz to have a worse weekend? Briana shares the moments from Qatar that had her wondering if MoneyGram Haas F1 Team was an actual F1 team?

This seems to be becoming a weekly discussion at Grid Walk, was the Qatar GP the last straw for Sergio Perez’s seat with Red Bull Racing? Briana and Nicole try to answer “should” and “will” Red Bull Racing replace Checo Perez! Is it likely that Red Bull Racing is putting off a Checo Perez announcement until after the Mexican Grand Prix!

Hear the results of the Qatar Grand Prix post-race polls answered by Grid Walk followers! Included in those polls is the FIA’s recent announcement about Andretti! Is it just a matter of time before Liberty Media/Formula One Management announce an 11th F1 team or would it be because they were pressured to do so?

Grid Walk heads Into The Wild to discuss the latest saga of Formula 1 and track limit violations! (Special shoutout to F1 Multiviewer for the track limit violations tracker!) Should track violations even be monitored in F1? If so, how can the FIA be better at monitoring track limits?

Previous Track Limits Discussion Referenced

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00:00 F1 in this Local News

03:50 Formation Lap

06:12 Podium: Best Oscar Piastri Moments of the Weekend

11:01 Driver Safety in Formula One

22:24 Podium: What is Formula 1?

28:24 Why Did the Tires Get Limits at the Qatar GP?

37:01 Podium: Nicole Rants About Ferrari

41:58 Checo Has Another Bad Race Weekend

46:39 Race Weekend Poll Results

56:22 Travis Kelce & Lightning McQueen

58:02 Into the Wild: Monitoring Track Limits

01:02:17 Podium: Is Haas Real?

01:03:55 Yellow Sector Notes

**Race Safety Concerns:**

* Multiple drivers experienced severe physical distress post-race, including blackouts, nausea, and vomiting.
* Lance Stroll reported blacking out for 20-25 laps during the race and required assistance exiting his car.
* Lando Norris revealed that over half the grid sought medical attention after the race.
* The FIA announced an investigation into the issue and promised to implement measures to enhance driver safety.

**Oscar Piastri's Breakout Performance:**

* Secured pole position for the sprint shootout, although it was technically not a pole.
* Won the sprint race, marking his first F1 victory.
* Displayed a humorous and engaging online presence, garnering praise from fans and media.

**Pirelli Tire Restrictions:**

* Pirelli imposed lap limits on all tires due to concerns about tire shredding caused by new pyramid curbs on the track.
* The decision aimed to prevent tire explosions and potential accidents during the race.
* Despite the limitations, the race lacked strategic diversity and excitement.

**Max Verstappen's Championship Victory:**

* Verstappen clinched the championship after Sergio Perez crashed out of the sprint race.
* The abrupt and anticlimactic manner of the championship conclusion drew criticism from some fans and pundits.
* Notably, the trophy for Verstappen's championship win was not prepared, leading to confusion and disappointment.

**Track Limit Controversies:**

* Track limits were monitored and enforced throughout the race, resulting in several drivers losing lap times.
* The strict enforcement of track limits generated debate among fans and experts.
* Some argued that the penalties were excessive and hindered the flow of the race.

**Andretti's F1 Bid:**

* F1 teams and personnel shared their initial thoughts on Andretti's bid to join the Formula One grid.
* The FIA's public pressure for an announcement sparked discussions about Andretti's potential acceptance into the Concorde Agreement.
* The inclusion of Andretti in Formula One remains uncertain, with various factors and opinions influencing the decision-making process.

**Yellow Sector Notes:**

* A segment dedicated to highlighting noteworthy stories from each team on the grid.
* This section provides insights into the performances, challenges, and developments within each team.
* It serves as a comprehensive overview of the race weekend from a team-by-team perspective.

**Race Strategy and Tire Management**

- The hosts criticize the FIA's decision to mandate three pit stops during the race, arguing that it led to a lack of strategy and excitement.
- They also discuss the problems caused by the aggressive pyramid-shaped curbs at the Losail International Circuit, which resulted in numerous tire failures.

**Ferrari's Struggles**

- Klein and Katz analyze Ferrari's disappointing performance at the Qatar GP, particularly Carlos Sainz's failure to start the race due to a grid penalty.
- They express their frustration with Ferrari's ongoing struggles and question the team's decision-making.

**Checo's Crash and Red Bull's Future**

- The hosts discuss Sergio Perez's crash during the race and speculate on its impact on his future with Red Bull Racing.
- They consider the possibility of Red Bull replacing Perez with another driver, such as Daniel Ricciardo or Oscar Piastri.

**Gridwalk Polls**

- The hosts share the results of their post-race polls conducted on social media.
- The polls reveal that the majority of fans believe that the FIA needs to improve its methods for determining race conditions and that Oscar Piastri's performance has been impressive.

**Andretti's Bid for an F1 Team**

- Klein and Katz discuss the ongoing saga of Andretti Autosport's attempt to join Formula One as the 11th team.
- They analyze the challenges facing Andretti and the potential impact of their entry on the sport.

**Track Limits and the FIA's Response**

- The hosts praise the FIA for its improved handling of track limits monitoring during the Qatar GP compared to previous races.
- They suggest that the FIA could further improve its efficiency by utilizing advanced technology.

**Grid Walk:**

* The hosts discuss various topics observed during their walk around the Formula One paddock, including:
* Max Verstappen's special world champion helmet design.
* Lewis Hamilton's cryptic Instagram activity hinting at a new venture.
* Mercedes' upcoming new floor for the USGP.
* Astraea's departure from Ferrari as a sponsor and potential move to Aston Martin.
* Lance Stroll's investigation by the FIA for incidents during the previous race.
* McLaren's record-breaking 1.8-second pit stop.
* Alpine's missed opportunity in signing Oscar Piastri.
* Daniel Ricciardo's last race with McLaren for the season and his upcoming music release.
* Williams' USGP merchandise line.
* Valtteri Bottas' collaboration with a coffee brand.
* Haas' announcement of rookie driver FP1 sessions.
* Pirelli's extension as the tire supplier for Formula One until 2027.

**Discussion:**

* The hosts share their thoughts on the craziest part of the race weekend, acknowledging the numerous noteworthy events.
* They emphasize the importance of reviews and interactions with the podcast in helping them and other listeners.
* They invite listeners to join their daily grid walks on social media platforms and express their gratitude for the support.

[00:00.000 -> 00:04.320] Oh my gosh, can you tell me the quote that your dad sent you?
[00:04.320 -> 00:10.560] Okay, so my dad, we get, we still get like an actual newspaper because you know some people
[00:10.560 -> 00:17.120] just are the way that they are. So shout out to Newsday. It is the Long Island paper and my dad
[00:17.120 -> 00:24.720] was very excited to tell me that Formula One was in the Newsday of Sunday, October 8th.
[00:25.000 -> 00:25.840] in the news day of Sunday, October 8th.
[00:29.240 -> 00:32.080] Look at how big, okay, so if you're in the audio, first off, you're missing out on a whole lot of fun.
[00:32.080 -> 00:34.800] Second, literally, I don't think this news article
[00:34.800 -> 00:36.320] is bigger than the palm of my hand.
[00:36.320 -> 00:38.760] It is not, it is three sentences.
[00:39.760 -> 00:41.480] So, as I will read to you.
[00:41.480 -> 00:49.080] And what Nicole is also not including audio listeners is that her dad very clearly cut out a piece
[00:49.080 -> 00:51.840] of the local newspaper for her.
[00:51.840 -> 00:56.340] It's not that, here's the whole newspaper or here's the page it's on.
[00:56.340 -> 01:00.800] It's just the little snippet about F1 has been cut out and given to her.
[01:00.800 -> 01:01.800] It's so cute.
[01:01.800 -> 01:07.220] Disclaimer, he used to mail me stuff like this in Miami. I
[01:07.740 -> 01:09.740] Did rip this out
[01:09.780 -> 01:13.660] With him. I know I did rip this out, but he would do this
[01:13.660 -> 01:19.360] But he did bring the paper to me folded and was like this I'm shocked
[01:19.360 -> 01:22.700] It's not highlighted to be very fair. Like it was a meticulous
[01:22.000 -> 01:25.280] highlighted to be very fair like it was
[01:29.040 -> 01:33.760] Yeah, he I have many of a newspaper cutout But it is very Papa Katz to cut out the newspaper and give it to me
[01:34.500 -> 01:40.360] It's usually left on my pillow. So this but it's the Sunday paper. So I was home. I know it's so adorable
[01:40.400 -> 01:45.520] I really and I love my dad will always give me the newspaper of things
[01:45.520 -> 01:52.280] that I like and I enjoy and f1 is on in the Long Island news except if you were
[01:52.280 -> 01:59.720] to read this little blurb about the f1 season to a person who has never watched
[01:59.720 -> 02:05.280] f1 they would have a very different picture of what the F1 season or just like kind of
[02:05.280 -> 02:06.880] what it's painted like.
[02:06.880 -> 02:10.920] Because when I read it, I cackled out loud.
[02:10.920 -> 02:15.120] So it does say Verstappen F1 champion.
[02:15.120 -> 02:19.940] Max Verstappen secured the Formula One title for the third straight year in a season of
[02:19.940 -> 02:23.040] near total domination for the Red Bull driver.
[02:23.040 -> 02:25.840] Verstappen finished second in the sprint race
[02:25.840 -> 02:32.240] in Qatar and Sergio Perez, the only driver who could catch him in the standings, crashed out.
[02:35.760 -> 02:39.920] You know what? I think that is a perfect description of what has happened all season,
[02:39.920 -> 02:42.880] except that Max finished second instead of first.
[02:44.560 -> 02:47.720] Like, as I'm reading this, I'm like,
[02:47.720 -> 02:49.360] all right, general, general, general.
[02:49.360 -> 02:51.560] And then it's like, ah, all right, Sergio Perez,
[02:51.560 -> 02:55.520] the only driver who could catch him in the standings,
[02:55.520 -> 02:56.340] crashed out.
[02:56.340 -> 02:57.800] Mathematically.
[02:57.800 -> 02:58.640] And I'm like, okay.
[02:58.640 -> 02:59.760] But not reality.
[03:01.600 -> 03:08.520] Crashed out of the season, gave up on trying, is trying too hard, oh god.
[03:08.520 -> 03:11.200] All of it kind of true.
[03:11.200 -> 03:12.200] So they're not wrong.
[03:12.200 -> 03:18.260] No, it is an accurate statement, but you're right, it's kind of misleading.
[03:18.260 -> 03:29.860] I cackled so hard at this, so I really hope either whoever wrote this is Like a diehard f1 fan, and this was just a great joke or whoever wrote this really
[03:30.400 -> 03:32.400] Has no idea like I guess
[03:33.000 -> 03:40.200] We got to talk about the f1 thing that happened yesterday. This was in the Sunday paper the big paper here it is
[03:42.520 -> 03:49.120] The local Long Island look along auto racing this auto rate there it is. The local Long Island. Local Long Island. Auto racing. Auto race. There it is.
[03:50.480 -> 03:55.360] Formula One is a traveling circus, but the Qatar GP felt like it was that on steroids.
[03:55.360 -> 04:01.360] There is so much to discuss this week. My brain, like we thought last week was a packed episode.
[04:01.360 -> 04:08.440] This week is an insanely packed episode. We discuss what should be done to better protect driver safety after a race that sent almost
[04:08.440 -> 04:12.400] half the grid to seek medical help after it was over.
[04:12.400 -> 04:17.240] Oscar Piachi continues to have a breakout season, so we celebrate that bright spot in
[04:17.240 -> 04:20.920] the middle of what was a chaotic race weekend that stressed me out.
[04:20.920 -> 04:26.120] Then we go back to the circus tent to discuss why Pirelli had to put lap limits
[04:26.120 -> 04:30.160] on all its tires this weekend and spoiler alert, it had nothing to do with Pirelli.
[04:30.160 -> 04:38.260] So stop giving them s***. I'm weirdly protective of a Pirelli. Don't ask me why. It's a weekly
[04:38.260 -> 04:43.180] discussion at this point. But was this the end of Paris at Red Bull? Did we see it this
[04:43.180 -> 04:45.680] weekend? We'll discuss.
[04:45.680 -> 04:51.120] F1 teams and personnel gave us their first thoughts about Andretti after the FIA's public
[04:51.120 -> 04:52.920] pressure of an announcement.
[04:52.920 -> 04:57.800] We discussed when or if F1 will accept them into the concord agreement.
[04:57.800 -> 05:02.000] And of course, because this race weekend needed to have everything, we got the headache of
[05:02.000 -> 05:06.720] track limits for the first time since the Austrian GP.
[05:06.720 -> 05:14.000] Not Australian, Austrian. Should this even be monitored and if so how can it be improved? So
[05:14.000 -> 05:19.920] we all don't have the headache of it every week. Lastly, as always, we end the show with yellow
[05:19.920 -> 05:24.240] sector notes. One story you should know from every team on the grid. That wraps up the formation
[05:24.240 -> 05:27.720] lap for episode 38 of GridWalk, a weekly Formula 1 podcast
[05:27.720 -> 05:31.920] that believes there are fascinating stories to discuss across the entire F1 grid, hence
[05:31.920 -> 05:33.840] the yellow sector notes at the end.
[05:33.840 -> 05:38.720] In case you haven't listened to the end and haven't put that together, you know.
[05:38.720 -> 05:39.720] You should.
[05:39.720 -> 05:40.720] Exciting.
[05:40.720 -> 05:41.720] Even hot.
[05:41.720 -> 05:44.480] Yeah, the end is really fun and will always be the most chaotic.
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[06:12.500 -> 06:25.000] My first podium of the race weekend. It is time for us to celebrate Oscar Piastri as the bright, shining light of this crappy race weekend admittedly.
[06:25.640 -> 06:27.080] But Oscar had a great weekend.
[06:27.080 -> 06:29.800] So we need to start the show with celebrating him
[06:29.800 -> 06:33.360] before we just complain about everything else essentially.
[06:33.360 -> 06:34.320] Yeah, he deserves it.
[06:34.320 -> 06:37.020] He deserves the actual celebration and positivity
[06:37.020 -> 06:39.100] that this race had.
[06:39.100 -> 06:41.420] Kind of the only bit of it.
[06:42.560 -> 06:47.440] So before I get into the podium, this is my favorite Oscar moments of
[06:47.440 -> 06:53.840] the weekend. Now of course him getting pole for the sprint shootout was exciting, even though it's
[06:53.840 -> 07:00.480] technically not a pole. Of course him winning the sprint was the highlight of the weekend.
[07:01.280 -> 07:09.240] But everyone knows that. So putting that P1 on the podium felt less fun. So these are three of my favorite, like chaoticness things that
[07:09.240 -> 07:11.220] happened with Oscar this weekend.
[07:11.620 -> 07:16.220] And so those two obvious, like on track things aside, like I wouldn't describe
[07:16.220 -> 07:19.420] any of the things on my podium here as on track.
[07:19.760 -> 07:21.020] I didn't even mean to do that.
[07:21.020 -> 07:24.000] I'm just so excited about all the Oscar things.
[07:24.000 -> 07:25.440] So it just was,
[07:33.600 -> 07:34.640] we're getting pretty early. All right. P3 in my favorite Oscar moments of the weekend
[07:37.120 -> 07:40.400] was him posting his own office meme.
[07:47.400 -> 07:54.260] So Oscar had his P3 in normal qualifying revoked because of track limits, so he lost the lap time, he became P6, but McLaren didn't un-post their P3 graphic, and Oscar replied
[07:54.260 -> 08:00.760] on Twitter and posted him the, the like, office-y meme where he turns to the camera and it zooms
[08:00.760 -> 08:06.200] in on his face, if on YouTube I will put it the screen. Beneath the photo, because everyone's like,
[08:06.200 -> 08:07.540] McLaren, you should take this down.
[08:07.540 -> 08:10.540] And even Oscar was like, I think you should take this down.
[08:14.140 -> 08:14.980] Incredible.
[08:14.980 -> 08:18.340] Oscar's internet presence was on another level this weekend.
[08:19.380 -> 08:21.700] Speaking of, my P2.
[08:21.700 -> 08:23.240] P1, P2, P6.
[08:32.000 -> 08:32.640] my p2 p1 p2 p6 so similarly oscar was in the photo for the top three in quali this week
[08:38.480 -> 08:45.520] because they couldn't find lewis so oscar just stuck around and then he posted the photo with the caption p1 p2 p6 and then the shrug emoji and I was on the floor.
[08:46.640 -> 08:48.520] Way to lean into it.
[08:49.120 -> 08:50.560] He really did.
[08:53.080 -> 08:54.120] Part-time comedian, part-time F1 driver.
[08:58.040 -> 09:02.320] If you asked me at the beginning of the season, if by this point, Oscar would have come out of his shell to this degree, I wouldn't have expected this at all.
[09:02.400 -> 09:04.160] But I love every minute of it.
[09:04.200 -> 09:07.600] His chaotic presence in like this quiet, understated way,
[09:07.600 -> 09:10.960] this is not on my podium, but honorable mention aside here,
[09:10.960 -> 09:16.240] Oscar's reaction to winning the sprint race that was so monotone
[09:16.240 -> 09:19.720] deserves recognition for my favorite Oscar moments of the weekend.
[09:19.720 -> 09:27.860] He uses phrases like, golly gee, oh gosh, oh, like like and not in a way and not in like
[09:27.860 -> 09:32.480] the George Russell way of like language it's there's something different about
[09:32.480 -> 09:38.420] it that just feels so innocent and just like oh matter of fact like oh yeah I
[09:38.420 -> 09:48.720] guess that's how this is you won this sprint you! You won your first race in F1! Cool, thanks guys for all the
[09:48.720 -> 09:53.200] hard work, that was fun. Liked that. Woo! You know, like.
[09:53.200 -> 09:59.480] Oh wow, that's so great. I'm so happy to hear that's how that all went down.
[09:59.480 -> 10:07.280] I love it! I think at some point he goes, I think I like the P1 board. Like, yes, I think so too, Oscar.
[10:08.200 -> 10:09.040] It's so great.
[10:10.040 -> 10:12.240] But that is not actually on my podium
[10:12.240 -> 10:15.000] because there were too many good Oscar moments this weekend.
[10:15.000 -> 10:18.960] My P1 is after he got pole in the sprint shootout
[10:18.960 -> 10:20.760] and he says, I think I'm gonna give the FIA
[10:20.760 -> 10:22.160] five minutes to confer.
[10:23.360 -> 10:25.800] It can't be easy to be interviewed to give the FIA five minutes to confirm.
[10:30.400 -> 10:30.500] It can't be easy to be interviewed and told in the interview that your P3 is removed,
[10:35.200 -> 10:35.900] but then to like turn it into such a great quote and like retort the next day.
[10:39.200 -> 10:39.300] And also I think we should all just give the FIA a breather all the time.
[10:40.000 -> 10:40.600] It was pointed. It was spot on.
[10:40.600 -> 10:41.300] It was funny.
[10:41.500 -> 10:42.700] 10 out of 10 Oscar.
[10:43.000 -> 10:46.220] Best moment of the Oscar piastri weekend,
[10:46.220 -> 10:48.920] not including actually winning the sprint.
[10:48.920 -> 10:51.120] His banter of leaning into the like,
[10:51.120 -> 10:52.160] well, I guess, you know,
[10:52.160 -> 10:55.920] hopefully we'll have another redo of this interview.
[10:55.920 -> 10:58.840] Him leaning into all of that, A plus.
[10:58.840 -> 11:00.240] Never seen anything like it.
[11:00.240 -> 11:02.320] Drivers take notes.
[11:02.320 -> 11:10.480] There were a lot of moments that made the Qatar GP like quite a unique weekend.
[11:10.480 -> 11:14.640] I guess good and bad depending on how you want to look at it.
[11:14.640 -> 11:20.640] Definitely on the bad side, this unbelievable aftermath that we're kind
[11:20.640 -> 11:25.000] of seeing or not kind of that we're definitely seeing and vocalizing
[11:25.000 -> 11:29.300] and immediately saw from all the drivers, like health-wise and comments afterwards of
[11:29.300 -> 11:36.760] during the race and how excruciatingly difficult it was and the being sick mid-race, almost
[11:36.760 -> 11:37.760] fainting mid-race.
[11:37.760 -> 11:45.000] I mean, there's an unbelievable list of things that drivers said were occurring or happened after the race.
[11:46.120 -> 11:53.280] And it brings up the wonderful question of the regulation and making sure that
[11:53.320 -> 11:58.320] race conditions are optimized for safety for drivers.
[11:58.320 -> 12:03.360] And maybe that needs to be considered when determining, you know, certain race
[12:03.360 -> 12:06.720] stints or just overall racing conditions,
[12:06.720 -> 12:11.360] like for certain tracks needs to be just maybe considered and monitored better.
[12:11.360 -> 12:18.920] Um, because I don't think having drivers blacking out in corners while going hundreds of miles per
[12:18.920 -> 12:26.000] hour is a great idea. Understatement. Understatement of the century.
[12:26.000 -> 12:28.000] Yeah, I have a list here of
[12:28.000 -> 12:30.000] everything that we know about
[12:30.000 -> 12:32.000] post this race.
[12:32.000 -> 12:34.000] Most drivers
[12:34.000 -> 12:36.000] couldn't even stand up and get out of the car
[12:36.000 -> 12:38.000] including what we saw
[12:38.000 -> 12:40.000] with Alex Albon who needed assistance
[12:40.000 -> 12:42.000] to physically get out of his car
[12:42.000 -> 12:44.000] and by the way, if you don't know, the FIA have
[12:44.000 -> 12:48.320] these safety rules in place where all the drivers need to be able to get out of
[12:48.320 -> 12:54.200] their car within five seconds. Um, so that's why like there's mechanisms to unseatbelt
[12:54.200 -> 13:02.200] yourself. And so basically Alex Albon was so sick that if his car got in an accident
[13:02.200 -> 13:05.920] or lit on fire, he wouldn't have been able to get himself out of the car.
[13:05.920 -> 13:10.960] Just when we're talking about, like, what this all means.
[13:10.960 -> 13:15.280] Sergeant actually had to retire mid-race because he was so unwell.
[13:15.280 -> 13:20.480] Esmaul Okan threw up inside his helmet at lap 15.
[13:20.480 -> 13:28.480] We are talking about drivers who are conditioned to do this consistently at a heightened thing
[13:28.480 -> 13:34.480] and Ocamp was so sick and felt so awful that by lap 15 he was puking.
[13:34.480 -> 13:39.400] Stroll was blacking out in all the high speed corners, which by the way of the 16 corners
[13:39.400 -> 13:45.420] is about 10 of them, for the last 20 to 25 laps of the race, he said, and immediately went to an
[13:45.420 -> 13:49.800] ambulance to get Carted to the hospital post race.
[13:49.800 -> 13:52.480] Russell said he kept feeling like he was about to faint.
[13:52.480 -> 13:55.000] So similar to stroll.
[13:55.000 -> 13:59.160] Alonso felt so awful that he actually asked them to chuck a bucket of water on him during
[13:59.160 -> 14:01.200] the pit stop.
[14:01.200 -> 14:06.000] And this is Alonso, who's Mr. I'm super macho strong man, I don't need anything.
[14:06.000 -> 14:10.000] And that's him saying he really, really doesn't feel good.
[14:10.000 -> 14:12.000] His seat was on fire.
[14:12.000 -> 14:16.000] Like actually. Not actually, but it says what he says.
[14:16.000 -> 14:19.000] And this is just what we know about.
[14:19.000 -> 14:25.280] Lando, in a post-race interview, said that more than half the drivers went and saw
[14:25.280 -> 14:34.040] the med team post this race. This is not... this is a level of safety. If you're... if
[14:34.040 -> 14:41.840] drivers are blacking out in corners this could have turned so bad so quickly and
[14:41.840 -> 14:47.280] the only reason it didn't is because these are highly trained performance
[14:47.280 -> 14:52.720] athletes and like I know a lot of people like to make fun of Stroll's skills but the fact that he
[14:52.720 -> 14:58.800] was able to keep the car on track despite consistently blacking out for 20 to 25 laps
[14:58.800 -> 15:07.440] that's insane. His on-board footage of him getting out of the car and him like walking and you see he
[15:07.440 -> 15:14.160] like can't keep his balance and like has to like lean on the ambulance like it is so terrifying
[15:14.160 -> 15:18.600] to think that he was just operating the vehicle that he was hitting in.
[15:18.600 -> 15:19.600] At 200 miles per hour.
[15:19.600 -> 15:27.760] Right like at any speed at all but just, it was a very frightening sight to see these drivers
[15:27.760 -> 15:30.360] in that, in that condition post race.
[15:30.360 -> 15:35.760] And we're two races from Singapore, which is supposed to be the like nightmare race
[15:35.760 -> 15:37.080] of the season.
[15:37.080 -> 15:42.040] And every single driver, even the ones that didn't end up having to go to the hospital
[15:42.040 -> 15:45.020] said that this was the absolute worst race of their entire career
[15:45.020 -> 15:47.660] It was leaps and bounds worse than Singapore
[15:48.700 -> 15:51.460] There have been a lot of really bad takes about this. I
[15:52.220 -> 15:58.900] Will fundamentally never agree with that drivers are making a contract that is their life
[15:59.500 -> 16:01.500] to do this
[16:01.700 -> 16:09.440] Like that just because this is a high risk sport doesn't mean that they have to be
[16:09.440 -> 16:17.680] subjected to things that can be fixed or conditions that are beyond unsafe. This is the same conversation
[16:17.680 -> 16:25.600] we have when it is tsunami raining and there's no visibility and people get mad that the drivers aren't out on track.
[16:25.600 -> 16:29.400] I do not watch F1 because there's a risk of someone dying.
[16:29.400 -> 16:33.400] I watch F1 despite the fact that there's a risk of someone dying.
[16:33.400 -> 16:40.300] That is not... I will never get behind the like glory...
[16:40.300 -> 16:47.280] Oh yes, like it would have been so great if like Stroll crashed out because he was passing
[16:47.280 -> 16:48.520] out in the car.
[16:48.520 -> 16:54.380] Like it is not okay to put athletes in situations like this.
[16:54.380 -> 17:02.480] And the fact that there is no system in place for the safety of the drivers to be monitored
[17:02.480 -> 17:07.440] in the moment to then red flag the race in some way.
[17:07.440 -> 17:13.160] And this is just going to continue to be an issue as weather gets more extreme with global
[17:13.160 -> 17:14.160] warming.
[17:14.160 -> 17:22.600] So, I am not hopeful, but I am hoping for the FIA to start figuring out how to monitor
[17:22.600 -> 17:29.000] this now and put something in place now or we are going to see drivers start to die because of things like this.
[17:32.000 -> 17:48.080] Yeah, it's not something that can be taken lightly and I mean, anyone that makes the argument of like, this is what they've signed up for. It's like, no, I mean, no one signs up for dying at their day job and also like an overwhelming
[17:48.080 -> 17:52.920] amount of the race calendar this is not the conditions that are being raced in so like
[17:52.920 -> 17:59.240] no it's not what they signed up for I also agree I'm I mean I'm optimistic I'm hoping
[17:59.240 -> 18:08.040] that this is like enough public backlash and pressure and like just circumstantial evidence or just, I mean,
[18:08.040 -> 18:13.100] just it being the right thing to do, that there'd just be a little bit more regulations
[18:13.100 -> 18:14.100] in this sense.
[18:14.100 -> 18:18.140] And maybe, I mean, there was just so many of, you know, drivers are always pushing themselves
[18:18.140 -> 18:19.140] to the limit.
[18:19.140 -> 18:30.080] So there's also the factor of like the, you know know pushing to the 18 lap per tire thing and like everyone's going as much as they possibly can but you kind of always
[18:30.080 -> 18:33.360] that's what drivers are kind of always saying that they're doing so there has to be a little
[18:33.360 -> 18:40.480] bit more regulating of the conditions per track. I don't know. It's also like the same,
[18:40.480 -> 18:43.920] I know I compare things to the NFL all the time, I'm sorry it's my second love,
[18:43.920 -> 18:46.500] but a lot of this falls in line.
[18:46.500 -> 18:50.500] Like you have to protect athletes because they are not wired to protect themselves.
[18:50.500 -> 18:54.000] Like, do you know how much pressure is on Lance right now?
[18:54.000 -> 19:01.500] And he probably should have removed himself from that race, but he can't do that because of how much pressure is on him to perform right now.
[19:01.500 -> 19:06.480] And in the NFL, we have the same conversation with concussions
[19:06.480 -> 19:13.000] all the time, where everyone's like, well, if a NFL player actually has a concussion,
[19:13.000 -> 19:17.880] they should remove themselves from the game. But they would never do that, because it's
[19:17.880 -> 19:22.840] their job and their livelihood, and they're so competitive. And F1 drivers have a similar
[19:22.840 -> 19:26.080] kind of thing as NFL players where you can
[19:26.080 -> 19:28.080] lose your job like that.
[19:28.080 -> 19:29.080] Like being so...
[19:29.080 -> 19:36.040] Your 53-man roster sounds huge and that's like not a huge thing at all.
[19:36.040 -> 19:40.200] I mean, you can also make the case that like the argument of like not necessarily they're
[19:40.200 -> 19:43.380] gonna know, like know when to say no.
[19:43.380 -> 19:45.400] You could hear in Logan's radio and
[19:45.400 -> 19:50.400] I currently the state of his career, not ideal, the state of his seat probably
[19:50.400 -> 19:55.920] really up in the air of you know if it all not already decided like him just
[19:55.920 -> 20:00.360] him making that choice on the radio that's also then being publicized on
[20:00.360 -> 20:06.440] television of him choosing to retire from that race before everyone knows about everything else going on,
[20:06.440 -> 20:09.740] doesn't look too great on him at all.
[20:09.740 -> 20:10.580] It's, yeah.
[20:10.580 -> 20:11.640] No.
[20:11.640 -> 20:14.220] And then you have these awful macho men online,
[20:14.220 -> 20:15.980] like, this is why you do this.
[20:15.980 -> 20:18.980] It's like, no, you protect people.
[20:18.980 -> 20:21.060] Like, they shouldn't have to do this for their job.
[20:21.060 -> 20:22.320] And that will always be something
[20:22.320 -> 20:23.820] I'm so passionate about in sports,
[20:23.820 -> 20:29.360] that like regulating bodies need to be there to protect their athletes, to make sure this
[20:29.360 -> 20:33.840] is as safe as possible. We should never be making arguments in favor of making a sport
[20:33.840 -> 20:34.840] less safe.
[20:34.840 -> 20:40.080] An individual athlete, to your point of, is for their livelihood, for their job, like
[20:40.080 -> 20:48.080] they're always going to want to be saying they're going to do their job. But when an organization like within Formula One or within the NFL,
[20:49.000 -> 20:54.000] and they're able to see like proven causes of concussions or the lasting
[20:55.220 -> 20:57.840] effects of X, Y, Z concussions,
[20:59.440 -> 21:01.280] things with driving, anything like that,
[21:01.280 -> 21:09.000] like it's becomes your responsibility as that organization to be looking after the people that are getting involved in your sport.
[21:09.000 -> 21:20.000] Or else, like, what's what, you see no value in them after your sport, or the longevity, or their life, or that they're disposable to you, it's, it's icky, it's yucky.
[21:20.000 -> 21:32.720] It's literally one of the two things the FIA is in charge of. They're in charge of safety and they're in charge of regulations. But that being said, I have a very low bar for the FIA doing well.
[21:32.720 -> 21:38.160] And they actually did put out a statement this week that they're looking into ways to
[21:38.160 -> 21:42.880] solve this problem and monitor this problem and to make sure that the drivers aren't being
[21:42.880 -> 21:45.680] put into an unsafe position
[21:45.680 -> 21:50.960] like this again because again we want to see athletes challenge themselves and that's why
[21:50.960 -> 21:58.320] we have races like Singapore that are hard but for reasons like this but I will also point out that
[21:58.320 -> 22:03.600] this race is supposed to be slightly later in the year next year so it should be cooler but most
[22:03.600 -> 22:05.420] experts say it's really not gonna be
[22:05.420 -> 22:06.640] that much cooler next year.
[22:06.640 -> 22:10.640] So this will come up again next year.
[22:10.640 -> 22:15.000] So I hope whatever, like, so good on the FIA
[22:15.000 -> 22:15.920] for putting out a statement
[22:15.920 -> 22:17.800] that they're actually gonna care on it, about it.
[22:17.800 -> 22:18.680] But they've done that before
[22:18.680 -> 22:19.860] and we need them to follow through
[22:19.860 -> 22:21.880] and coming up with a way to do this.
[22:21.880 -> 22:24.720] Now you've said the words, now do things about the words.
[22:26.480 -> 22:33.880] Things that happened this race weekend that had me just going WTF. Really? Like it's not
[22:33.880 -> 22:38.320] even things, we're talking a lot in the show today about things that were frustrating or
[22:38.320 -> 22:43.940] inefficient. I wouldn't say these fall into the frustrating category. These are things
[22:43.940 -> 22:46.660] that just have a loading screen on my head
[22:46.660 -> 22:47.860] where it's like, really?
[22:47.860 -> 22:50.380] Like this sport is this way?
[22:50.380 -> 22:51.220] Really?
[22:51.220 -> 22:53.300] This is what's happening right now?
[22:53.300 -> 22:55.680] Okay, great, we'll lean into it.
[22:58.240 -> 23:03.240] In P3, Max winning the championship
[23:03.380 -> 23:09.040] as soon as Paris crashed out of the sprint.
[23:09.040 -> 23:10.040] Such a WTF moment.
[23:10.040 -> 23:15.440] It felt like a very fitting way for this season of all seasons to end, but having to listen
[23:15.440 -> 23:23.580] to the F1 TV broadcasters go, oh, well, that means Max Verstappen is the driver's champion,
[23:23.580 -> 23:25.680] and they were like really trying to get into it. It was
[23:26.960 -> 23:31.520] the least exciting way for this whole thing to come to a conclusion,
[23:31.520 -> 23:35.840] in a season that has not been exciting competition-wise.
[23:36.720 -> 23:45.000] It felt like the next clip in the office meme clip from the last race of, you know,
[23:45.000 -> 23:49.160] ah, here's Max coming into pit and here's up Chaco in the car.
[23:49.160 -> 23:53.080] Like it just totally felt like it would be the next transition
[23:53.400 -> 23:55.600] moment of like, ah, okay.
[23:55.600 -> 23:58.920] And he wins because Chaco crashed.
[23:59.160 -> 24:02.400] P2 moments that had me going, really?
[24:03.040 -> 24:03.720] WTF?
[24:04.680 -> 24:06.480] The fact that they didn't have the trophy
[24:06.480 -> 24:14.520] ready for Max. He needed, we knew going into this weekend, that he needed to
[24:14.520 -> 24:19.480] score, he needed P6 or above in the sprint. No one thought that he was
[24:19.480 -> 24:26.400] winning the championship this weekend. They've had weeks of warning and he... they didn't have
[24:26.400 -> 24:31.040] the trophy? I don't understand this sport sometimes.
[24:31.040 -> 24:37.520] Did you really think? Like, like, come on. Let's be like a little realistic. Like,
[24:37.520 -> 24:45.280] like, come on. You're not... I mean, I guess maybe... I don't know. It's dumb, maybe, I don't know.
[24:45.280 -> 24:47.280] As an aside,
[24:47.280 -> 24:49.280] poor Oscar.
[24:49.280 -> 24:52.480] But like, they didn't even celebrate Maxwell.
[24:52.480 -> 24:55.360] Like, yeah, they made the whole thing, this whole world champion thing,
[24:55.360 -> 24:57.360] no one could hand him a trophy.
[24:57.360 -> 25:02.080] We watched the president of the FIA rush to give him a sprint P2 trophy,
[25:02.080 -> 25:04.080] in the wrong order, by the way.
[25:04.080 -> 25:08.240] Like, F1, if you haven't noticed, has like a very specific order of how they hand out trophies,
[25:08.240 -> 25:14.480] and it always starts with P1. But Mohammed bin Salman rushed and gave Max P2, and then you have,
[25:14.480 -> 25:20.080] then you see Stefano Domenicoli, who is the president of F1, panic and then give Oscar
[25:20.080 -> 25:25.800] the P1 trophy after that. The whole thing was chaos, why was there no championship trophy
[25:25.800 -> 25:26.800] there ready?
[25:26.800 -> 25:28.120] I don't understand.
[25:28.120 -> 25:33.160] It felt like everyone was talking about Oscar, but every light was screaming Max, and then
[25:33.160 -> 25:37.220] it was like, not- I was like, what are we watching right now?
[25:37.220 -> 25:38.380] How is there no trophy?
[25:38.380 -> 25:42.560] Why does it feel like everyone's arguing over who's gonna give everyone like a Sprint Race
[25:42.560 -> 25:45.200] trophy and why is no one prepared for like what we
[25:46.000 -> 25:54.560] everyone knew what was going to happen today right um and then i'm i am disappointed in baked into
[25:54.560 -> 26:00.960] this like what wtf is happening here like oscar's first race win even though it's sprint and like
[26:00.960 -> 26:06.240] that whole thing aside we're not gonna get any iconic celebrations from that because he wasn't even
[26:06.240 -> 26:09.720] allowed up on the little winning stage thing. All he did was like
[26:09.720 -> 26:12.800] slowly get out of his car and walk over and shake the hands of
[26:12.800 -> 26:15.840] everyone's team, which honestly felt a little fitting. And then
[26:15.840 -> 26:18.200] the photo that you know, they always take the race winning
[26:18.200 -> 26:23.200] photo at the end. There was Max's face behind it. It wasn't
[26:23.200 -> 26:26.000] even an Oscar celebration.
[26:28.400 -> 26:28.800] Yep.
[26:29.040 -> 26:30.360] There it was everywhere.
[26:30.400 -> 26:34.140] It just was the let's celebrate Max at the sprint race.
[26:34.140 -> 26:37.960] It all felt very strange and confusing.
[26:37.960 -> 26:40.880] It was a marketing nightmare.
[26:42.000 -> 26:44.040] WTF is this sport?
[26:44.520 -> 26:49.840] I cool. nightmare. WTM is this sport. It felt really weird to have like be a confirmed drivers champion and
[26:49.840 -> 26:56.080] like you didn't have fans on the track. Like that also looked very strange and weird of like,
[26:56.080 -> 27:02.480] Max we're stopping and like there's no you don't have fans invading the track for a sprint race.
[27:03.520 -> 27:08.100] And they had the whole graphic package ready, but no trophy ready!
[27:08.100 -> 27:12.520] Like, at least give- so similarly, we don't get an iconic photo of Max winning his third
[27:12.520 -> 27:15.360] championship with him lifting the trophy or having- it's like-
[27:15.360 -> 27:18.840] I- bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh
[27:18.840 -> 27:20.640] But that's not P1.
[27:20.640 -> 27:23.280] Somehow that was not P1.
[27:23.280 -> 27:27.440] Because P1, to me, was when Alex found out that he was promoted
[27:27.440 -> 27:32.520] in the sprint race and he decided to post on social media what looked to be a very well
[27:32.520 -> 27:42.360] done stake that looked like a 7. And as soon as I saw that I said, doesn't matter what
[27:42.360 -> 27:50.080] else happens on track this week, that is P1 on my podium of moments that made me go, what is going on?
[27:50.080 -> 27:55.760] When I saw that, I thought it was a fan account. And then I said, wait, no, this is Alex. Alex
[27:55.760 -> 28:03.200] really was like, oh, it's a number seven. Like, what? What? What? Is he seven? Is he
[28:03.200 -> 28:07.040] the age seven? Is he this many fingers? Years old?
[28:09.680 -> 28:15.680] And I also wanted this to be P1 because the other two things on this podium are like size,
[28:16.320 -> 28:23.520] what is going on? This is, what is going on? Like, they're different vibes and I like the
[28:23.520 -> 28:25.000] what's going on a lot more.
[28:26.840 -> 28:28.240] All right, on top of all the things
[28:28.240 -> 28:30.400] we've already talked about,
[28:30.400 -> 28:32.000] there was tire chaos this week,
[28:32.000 -> 28:33.840] but not my favorite kind of tire chaos.
[28:33.840 -> 28:36.800] There wasn't strategy excitement,
[28:36.800 -> 28:39.760] and we didn't get to see converging ideas.
[28:39.760 -> 28:41.680] No, no, no, no.
[28:41.680 -> 28:42.520] Coming into this-
[28:42.520 -> 28:43.360] I don't like it.
[28:43.360 -> 28:44.200] I don't like it either.
[28:44.200 -> 28:49.160] Did not work. They, oh, and this is reminding me, stay tuned until later in the show because we're going
[28:49.160 -> 28:52.800] to go through the results of all of our polls of the weekend that we put up on our Instagram
[28:52.800 -> 28:57.000] page because there's something that pertains to this.
[28:57.000 -> 29:02.960] So we discovered Saturday morning that there was an issue with the tires.
[29:02.960 -> 29:06.840] And we mentioned this in the preview show, but they made updates to this track
[29:06.840 -> 29:08.880] where they put in new curves
[29:08.880 -> 29:11.400] and a little background and bare bones
[29:11.400 -> 29:13.100] on how these processes work.
[29:13.100 -> 29:15.640] So every single F1 circuit,
[29:15.640 -> 29:17.340] actually every single circuit
[29:17.340 -> 29:22.160] on any FIA-sanctioned motorsport
[29:22.160 -> 29:23.880] is reviewed by the FIA
[29:23.880 -> 29:24.840] and it needs to hit,
[29:24.840 -> 29:26.160] admittedlyly very strict
[29:26.160 -> 29:32.240] safety standards. So when this track had to get updated these new curbs that
[29:32.240 -> 29:36.400] I've been calling the pyramid curbs I don't know how accurate that is but
[29:36.400 -> 29:41.560] basically they look... That is the online vocab. Okay great great so despite my
[29:41.560 -> 29:46.660] limited social media this weekend at least I picked up on the correct verbiage,
[29:48.620 -> 29:50.820] they put in these pyramid curbs
[29:50.820 -> 29:53.500] at various corners around the track.
[29:53.500 -> 29:58.500] And they had to be approved by the FIA safety standards.
[29:59.020 -> 30:03.980] And what Pirelli learned after Friday
[30:03.980 -> 30:08.000] is that these pointy curbs were essentially shredding
[30:08.000 -> 30:17.120] the tires. Which felt like something that could be thought of ahead of time, but wasn't.
[30:17.120 -> 30:22.240] I don't know why at this track in particular, and I'm sure there was actually a reason.
[30:22.240 -> 30:31.040] So this is me saying if you know put it in the comments like I would like to learn why for the first time ever pyramid pointy curbs was what they decided to
[30:31.040 -> 30:36.480] go with. Because sometimes these decisions are made because other racing series race there but
[30:37.600 -> 30:47.680] that applies to other tracks and I've never seen this before. I don't know. So pointy curbs, tires go over pointy curbs, it shreds the tires. And
[30:48.640 -> 30:54.160] Pirelli was faced with, alright, either we just let the teams do whatever they want and we're
[30:54.160 -> 31:02.160] gonna have a bunch of tire explosions come Sunday, or we put some things in place to try to mitigate
[31:02.160 -> 31:07.340] this. So they extended the curb out in turn 13
[31:07.340 -> 31:08.180] and basically said,
[31:08.180 -> 31:10.280] please just don't go over these pointy curbs
[31:10.280 -> 31:13.800] and just like listen to this new white line.
[31:13.800 -> 31:16.560] And then they put limits on the amount of laps
[31:16.560 -> 31:19.200] that every set of tires could do.
[31:19.200 -> 31:21.420] And for what they were dealt,
[31:21.420 -> 31:23.320] the hands they were dealt,
[31:23.320 -> 31:25.480] I think Pirelli and the FIA did a good
[31:25.480 -> 31:30.680] job mitigating circumstances because as not fun as the strategy convergence was in the
[31:30.680 -> 31:35.320] race, I think it would have been less fun if there was just random DNFs the entire time
[31:35.320 -> 31:40.440] because people's tires were popping. And that would definitely be the less safe option,
[31:40.440 -> 31:48.040] and after just reeling about, I care about safety, I don't want crashes where they can be avoided.
[31:48.040 -> 31:50.500] It was great that they made this decision
[31:50.500 -> 31:52.100] and they were proactive,
[31:52.100 -> 31:54.780] but whose idea was it to put pointy curbs?
[31:57.380 -> 32:01.620] My thoughts initially, pointy curbs,
[32:04.480 -> 32:06.180] lack of tire strategy.
[32:08.940 -> 32:14.500] Pirelli, relatively quickly trying to figure out the best solution.
[32:16.380 -> 32:17.940] Yeah.
[32:17.940 -> 32:19.940] And if you, not you,
[32:20.180 -> 32:24.500] collective you listening to this, are on the team that are blaming Pirelli for this,
[32:24.500 -> 32:30.080] they don't have this issue at any other track. This is not Pirelli's fault. They, of course,
[32:30.080 -> 32:35.120] pointy curb, like, they did the best they can with it. They are not the people to blame here.
[32:35.840 -> 32:45.220] Like, no, I would really honestly love for someone to explain to me, more of like the purpose of these pyramid
[32:46.140 -> 32:51.300] Triangle curbs. They just I guess look cool. I think they just look like they're gonna shred your tires
[32:52.360 -> 32:54.360] and the photo of
[32:54.500 -> 33:01.660] I believe it was it was a McLaren tire that I had first saw when I was seeing like what was happening to tires
[33:01.660 -> 33:08.820] Oh my gosh, it's a nightmare. Like, Pearlie had to do something. Um, so it's unfortunate of like
[33:08.820 -> 33:12.360] what it ultimately like came to be. It felt like I was
[33:12.360 -> 33:18.300] watching like a like the middle school version of an F1 race
[33:18.300 -> 33:22.320] cuz it was like, okay, how old are these tires? Alright, so
[33:22.320 -> 33:26.560] now you know, so we're gonna get this lap coming, and it's just like not what I
[33:27.280 -> 33:29.720] Enjoy from enough one race one of our
[33:30.140 -> 33:31.880] like favorite parts is
[33:31.880 -> 33:35.620] teams having to come up with their own type of strategy for pit stops and
[33:35.720 -> 33:42.640] The tires that they're gonna use everything like that makes f1 so special so that announcement happening was like oh
[33:42.900 -> 33:45.120] They're doing things so that there's
[33:46.080 -> 33:51.520] less DNFs and less like boom tires. But at the same time, it's like, okay, well, like now
[33:52.080 -> 33:56.880] I have a lot more of an expectation of what I'm seeing on Sunday, which was less like,
[33:57.680 -> 34:03.040] I don't know, I was less excited about Versa. Strategy convergence is never exciting because
[34:03.040 -> 34:05.000] that just means Red Bull's going to win.
[34:05.000 -> 34:15.000] Which we know going in anyway is probably already going to happen, but it just solidifies it even more if that's possible.
[34:15.000 -> 34:26.360] Yeah, and somehow it is because there's very exciting like, oh, you got that strategy call right. Because
[34:26.360 -> 34:32.320] the more restraints you put on their ability to come up with different strategies that
[34:32.320 -> 34:36.540] might result in the same outcome, because they're all using these fancy softwares where
[34:36.540 -> 34:40.720] they plug in a bunch of stuff and it outputs the best possible strategies and then from
[34:40.720 -> 34:47.800] that they decide, but that they're all just doing that theoretically, so people can get it right and people can get it wrong.
[34:47.800 -> 34:49.320] And like the more rules there are,
[34:49.320 -> 34:51.320] the less opportunity there is actually
[34:51.320 -> 34:53.360] for someone to get it wrong.
[34:53.360 -> 34:55.520] And maybe that affects and we get a different winner
[34:55.520 -> 34:57.640] or a different podium or a surprise thing
[34:57.640 -> 34:58.960] that everyone likes.
[34:58.960 -> 35:02.720] Yeah, especially when it's as specific as 18 laps.
[35:02.720 -> 35:09.200] You're like, okay, it three got okay cool it was
[35:09.200 -> 35:16.320] it felt so routine. Yeah and unlike some of the other things that there are to talk about coming
[35:16.320 -> 35:22.160] out of this this this part of it is is not going to affect anything else like no other track has
[35:22.160 -> 35:32.160] these pyramid curves hopefully they'll get rid of them by next year. I do think it proved that mandating three pit stops or whatever ideas people keep
[35:32.160 -> 35:36.160] floating out there doesn't make for a better F1 race. I could have told you that already but now
[35:36.160 -> 35:41.120] everyone got to see it and test it and it didn't make for a better F1 race. And I don't blame
[35:41.120 -> 35:46.760] anyone for this but I can't imagine what it felt like to watch that race
[35:46.760 -> 35:49.280] without all the supplemental stuff we had.
[35:49.280 -> 35:54.400] Like I had the graphic, I had all my normal live timing, but then I also had the graphic
[35:54.400 -> 35:59.360] up of like all the different sets the drivers had and how many laps they got to go on it.
[35:59.360 -> 36:02.680] And I don't blame the booths for this at all.
[36:02.680 -> 36:05.800] Like they had no ability to prepare at all
[36:05.800 -> 36:08.680] on how to broadcast a race like this.
[36:08.680 -> 36:12.360] So it just felt like they were filling air and time
[36:12.360 -> 36:15.160] until the final round of pit stops
[36:15.160 -> 36:17.720] because they just didn't know how to talk about it.
[36:18.600 -> 36:19.720] So again, I don't blame them.
[36:19.720 -> 36:23.400] Like, this was an unreasonable thing.
[36:23.400 -> 36:24.640] Like, hey, in three hours,
[36:24.640 -> 36:25.720] like figure out how to broadcast
[36:25.720 -> 36:29.840] a race that's organized how it's never been organized before.
[36:29.840 -> 36:33.120] But I can't imagine how awful that viewing experience would have been.
[36:33.120 -> 36:40.080] Yeah, I heard, just from the commentator perspective, the amount of times I heard, oh, well, Max
[36:40.080 -> 36:44.600] Verstappen's gonna have to pit in the next four laps, in the next three laps, in the
[36:44.600 -> 36:46.400] next two laps, in the next lap, we know he's gonna pit. We definitely knowin's gonna have to pit in the next four laps, in the next three laps, in the next two lap, in the next lap.
[36:46.400 -> 36:47.400] We know he's gonna pit.
[36:47.400 -> 36:48.640] We definitely know he's gonna hit.
[36:48.640 -> 36:51.440] Up here is the radio that's confirming that he's gonna pit.
[36:51.440 -> 36:53.080] Like, yeah, okay, great.
[36:53.080 -> 36:58.560] Like, we talk about maybe something else, but yeah, to your point, there's not as much
[36:58.560 -> 37:12.840] prep time for that as being able to develop a story in a different way. Okay so we're back on this Ferrari thing again about I just can't learn my lesson.
[37:12.840 -> 37:14.280] I can't learn my lesson with this.
[37:14.280 -> 37:20.520] I can't just every time I think I'm done and then I come back and then it all just blows
[37:20.520 -> 37:21.740] up in my face.
[37:21.740 -> 37:25.200] So of course my after my hot takes
[37:25.200 -> 37:30.400] last week, my podiums of Qatar are every single moment Ferrari
[37:30.400 -> 37:35.000] made me go, why oh why did I have any faith at all that this
[37:35.000 -> 37:37.160] was gonna go well for Ferrari?
[37:38.400 -> 37:41.960] Some context to this that really made me laugh. And this didn't
[37:41.960 -> 37:44.840] actually end up in the show. It was on the cutting room floor.
[37:49.920 -> 37:55.160] The show we have like this 20 minute conversation last week previewing the GP with Bryson. And we do all this analysis about how we think Ferrari is going to struggle
[37:55.160 -> 38:00.040] at this race. And then it rolls right into predictions. And Nicole goes all in on Ferrari.
[38:00.040 -> 38:08.280] And we laughed for a good seven minutes, at least. That all got cut about the juxtaposition of the two things.
[38:08.600 -> 38:12.560] So either way, I'm glad that like something good content was going to come out of
[38:12.560 -> 38:14.280] this either way. And I'm glad it's a podium.
[38:14.760 -> 38:17.240] Oh yes. Oh no. It's a hundred percent.
[38:17.280 -> 38:23.000] I, of anything, always listen to Bryson, I guess, because I just was like, nope.
[38:23.480 -> 38:24.560] F1 can't always.
[38:24.460 -> 38:25.520] Bryson I guess because I just was like nope f1 can't always
[38:27.520 -> 38:27.960] in the ways that I
[38:34.760 -> 38:35.280] Hope and want it to be and just want to have some fun sometimes because sometimes that just makes me lose
[38:37.280 -> 38:37.520] unbelievably
[38:44.960 -> 38:45.420] Roulette I know no, but not with Ferrari and that's the point of this podium. So P3,
[38:47.360 -> 38:52.360] every complaining radio about Ferrari and qualifying.
[38:53.720 -> 38:58.720] I just kept having to hear, what is this red car doing?
[38:59.120 -> 39:00.520] Do they think this is the race?
[39:00.520 -> 39:01.880] Why are they driving so slow?
[39:01.880 -> 39:03.080] Why are they racing?
[39:03.080 -> 39:04.320] But, but, and I'm just like, what?
[39:04.320 -> 39:07.920] I continued to be like, what is happening?
[39:07.920 -> 39:11.480] And I'm already stressed out enough about quality on a Friday because I just, it can't,
[39:11.480 -> 39:13.120] it doesn't work well in my brain.
[39:13.120 -> 39:17.440] So already seeing this happening on Friday, I don't feel like things are going well for
[39:17.440 -> 39:19.360] the rest of the weekend.
[39:19.360 -> 39:20.360] Yeah.
[39:20.360 -> 39:21.360] Yeah.
[39:21.360 -> 39:24.360] I have nothing to add.
[39:24.360 -> 39:25.000] That's just so sad. Yeah, I mean, there's nothing really to add to add. That's just so sad.
[39:25.000 -> 39:29.500] Yeah, I mean, there's nothing really to add to that because that's just fact. And, uh,
[39:29.500 -> 39:34.000] because it doesn't go well at all because P2...
[39:34.000 -> 39:36.000] Carlos qualifying P12.
[39:36.000 -> 39:43.000] I feel- wait, hold on, hold on. Before we- because I feel bad doing that noise there
[39:43.000 -> 40:10.960] because that is more like a BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII golden weekend and Friday it was spit in Nicole's face Carlos qualifies p12
[40:12.560 -> 40:18.320] not even a q1 it's not even like we're not even in the realm of a possibility I
[40:18.320 -> 40:32.080] was I didn't even get the realm of qualifying before I was like well there goes my weekend so don't even go back
[40:32.080 -> 40:34.440] to the other parts of the sound board
[40:34.440 -> 40:38.480] because my one and I don't care if it's
[40:38.480 -> 41:06.880] obvious but here it goes. Carlos Sainz not starting in the race. He legitimately caused every penalty to occur
[41:06.880 -> 41:14.000] because Kevin Magnuson pulls up in his spot because there was no spot on the grid where his car was
[41:14.000 -> 41:20.160] supposed to be because he didn't drive. So I couldn't even get those points because the man
[41:20.160 -> 41:26.200] didn't race. Never let me pick a Ferrari ever again play this back for me every
[41:26.200 -> 41:31.600] single time in the future that I think I have any sort of hope no done done so
[41:31.600 -> 41:43.400] can't do it I love you so much I can't can't I can't you can't like how often
[41:43.400 -> 41:48.000] do you think someone to be on the podium of a race and they don't even start?
[41:48.000 -> 41:54.000] It's not even like it was like a turn one collision which we're not even- I didn't even mean that about anything.
[41:54.000 -> 42:07.800] It didn't even- no it didn't even make it! Didn't even make it! Checo, Checo, Checo crashed out according to Newsday on Long Island.
[42:07.800 -> 42:08.800] Accurate statements.
[42:08.800 -> 42:17.520] I did feel bad because of all the accidents and things that have happened this season.
[42:17.520 -> 42:20.880] This was the first crash that I didn't feel like was his fault, but it did feel like a
[42:20.880 -> 42:25.680] fitting way for the Red Bulls season to come to its final conclusion.
[42:25.680 -> 42:27.480] Max won because Checo crashed.
[42:27.480 -> 42:35.600] Yeah, it really tied a nice, beautiful bow, Cherry on top of it all, like, you did it!
[42:35.600 -> 42:37.800] Way to go!
[42:37.800 -> 42:39.480] I guess, yeah.
[42:39.480 -> 42:48.500] It felt like a really anticlimactic to like the most expected finish before like a month and a
[42:48.500 -> 42:51.300] half before it's over.
[42:51.300 -> 43:00.640] Okay, so on a scale of one to 10, how over is Checo's career in the Red Bull seat?
[43:00.640 -> 43:03.660] One being, oh, he's definitely in that seat next year.
[43:03.660 -> 43:05.960] Ten being he is definitely out of that seat.
[43:05.960 -> 43:06.840] It's a given.
[43:08.920 -> 43:10.360] Ooh, okay.
[43:10.360 -> 43:14.560] So, in terms of what I think,
[43:14.560 -> 43:17.160] or like when Red Bull, like,
[43:17.160 -> 43:19.320] are we asking in my perspective?
[43:19.320 -> 43:22.360] Yeah, should, if you were the decision maker,
[43:22.360 -> 43:24.960] and then do you think Red Bull will actually do it?
[43:26.960 -> 43:34.720] I'll give you mine. I think it's an eight on should and will Red Bull actually do it? I'm
[43:34.720 -> 43:40.400] I'm teetering towards closer than I've been in a while and I think it's a six because Helmet Marco
[43:40.400 -> 43:46.200] did make very pointed statements this week and they hadn't done that up until
[43:46.200 -> 43:47.200] this point.
[43:47.200 -> 43:51.520] I mean, Helmet Marco threatens everyone all the time, so it's been shocking that he hasn't
[43:51.520 -> 43:54.520] been threatening Checo in the media.
[43:54.520 -> 44:00.760] So I feel like I'm going to answer, do I think it's happened?
[44:00.760 -> 44:04.600] I'm at an 11 out of 10.
[44:04.600 -> 44:06.040] Do I think Red Bull is?
[44:06.040 -> 44:09.960] I think Red Bull's just waiting for the moment.
[44:09.960 -> 44:16.080] I really buy into the theory, just like part of my lingo.
[44:16.080 -> 44:22.800] If like Checo can't, like doesn't solidify like second place in drivers, then post-season
[44:22.800 -> 44:28.600] we're getting like, it's getting the, like we're getting the announcement.
[44:28.600 -> 44:33.400] Like if the rest of the season is just such an unbelievable nightmare that he just can't
[44:33.400 -> 44:37.740] do anything, then I feel like we'll get it in the offseason.
[44:37.740 -> 44:42.800] So part of my brain on the 1-10 on Red Bull is more like a matter of time when.
[44:42.800 -> 44:49.780] So do I feel like we're getting the announcement tomorrow I think I'm at like a five like if I woke up tomorrow and got it I would be as
[44:49.780 -> 44:55.000] shocked and not shocked at the exact same time when it comes to offseason I feel like
[44:55.000 -> 44:58.840] it would make a little bit more sense with everything that we're going through but the
[44:58.840 -> 45:04.520] fact that they announced three Al Fatahri drivers and like shows they're thinking about
[45:04.520 -> 45:05.480] it shows they're thinking about it.
[45:05.480 -> 45:06.940] Shows they're thinking about it.
[45:06.940 -> 45:09.520] We're coming into like a Daniel Ricciardo return.
[45:09.520 -> 45:10.920] So that's going to be like what everyone
[45:10.920 -> 45:13.720] in like the Red Bull world is like leaning into.
[45:13.720 -> 45:16.600] There's going to be like horses and whatever.
[45:16.600 -> 45:20.440] Like it's, I don't think it's going to be,
[45:20.440 -> 45:24.080] they're going to divert the Checo tension momentarily.
[45:24.080 -> 45:46.460] They still have to go to Mexico. Like they can't, they cannot, be and then there not be Checo next year. And then you can't say there will be no Checo and then go to Mexico.
[45:46.460 -> 45:49.100] That is a nightmare waiting to happen.
[45:49.720 -> 45:50.020] Yeah.
[45:50.020 -> 45:54.860] On my surprise scale, announce any announcement before Mexico.
[45:55.220 -> 45:59.200] Like I will scream if I wake up in the morning to an announcement.
[45:59.700 -> 46:01.480] Like that would blow my mind.
[46:01.660 -> 46:02.520] Pre-Mexico.
[46:02.700 -> 46:03.020] Yeah.
[46:03.240 -> 46:04.080] I think you're right.
[46:04.080 -> 46:04.660] I agree.
[46:04.660 -> 46:06.280] Post-Mexico. Yeah. I think you're right, I agree. Post-Mexico, like,
[46:07.500 -> 46:09.840] an announcement wouldn't really surprise me
[46:09.840 -> 46:11.480] at all at this point.
[46:11.480 -> 46:12.600] Yeah.
[46:12.600 -> 46:16.500] I have heard people rumoring and just theorizing,
[46:16.500 -> 46:18.280] like this is not based on any reporting.
[46:18.280 -> 46:20.080] I've just seen people theorizing
[46:20.080 -> 46:24.240] that Checo might be negotiating with Williams,
[46:24.240 -> 46:25.980] because Williams does have this open seat.
[46:25.980 -> 46:28.500] And I'm sure Checo doesn't want to leave the grid,
[46:28.500 -> 46:31.420] but, and the Williams hasn't looked that bad.
[46:31.420 -> 46:34.140] And if he just wanted like a decent midfield seat
[46:34.140 -> 46:38.460] and like that, like it felt like it made sense.
[46:38.460 -> 46:40.640] The Alex Albon pipeline.
[46:42.220 -> 46:48.800] Gridwalk polls, gridwalk polls. Welcome to when we read our social media polls, thanks for
[46:48.800 -> 46:55.920] participating. Make sure you follow us at gridwalk show, particularly on Instagram, we do a lot of fun
[46:55.920 -> 47:06.480] things, but one of those is post race weekend, we have polls. So here's a rundown of what you all, if you participated, thought about some of the big
[47:06.480 -> 47:09.680] notes in the race weekend.
[47:09.680 -> 47:13.200] So for starters, does the FIA need a better way to determine if racing conditions are
[47:13.200 -> 47:17.600] safe for drivers after most needed medical attention post-race?
[47:17.600 -> 47:19.600] The options were yes, no, I'm undecided.
[47:19.600 -> 47:22.480] 100% of people who voted said yes.
[47:22.480 -> 47:23.960] This is not a disputed thing.
[47:23.960 -> 47:30.160] I thought some people were going to say no based on the uproar on social media but no, no, not at all. Good people, good people.
[47:30.160 -> 47:36.080] Yeah, Gridwock followers, you all rock. Alright, poll number two. What is your opinion on Oscar
[47:36.080 -> 47:42.720] Piastri? The options were WOW in all caps and unimpressed. 100% of the people said wow.
[47:43.680 -> 47:47.520] I don't know how you can not be impressed at this point.
[47:47.520 -> 47:52.600] Everyone thinks so highly of Lando and his skills and Oscar is doing so well. Pretty
[47:52.600 -> 47:59.640] good race pace. After seeing it, mandating more pit stops made the race and the options
[47:59.640 -> 48:05.660] were it should always be like this, strategy convergence was boring, or it did not affect my enjoyment.
[48:05.660 -> 48:09.360] The winner here was 50% said it didn't affect their enjoyment.
[48:09.360 -> 48:10.360] Huh.
[48:10.360 -> 48:12.720] Interesting, right?
[48:12.720 -> 48:15.280] I definitely did not.
[48:15.280 -> 48:17.280] It affected mine.
[48:17.280 -> 48:19.560] Yeah, me either.
[48:19.560 -> 48:20.560] We say this every week.
[48:20.560 -> 48:23.760] Who knows that people besides us do this?
[48:23.760 -> 48:30.800] Thank you! every week. We say this every week, but will Red Bull replace Paras before next season?
[48:30.800 -> 48:37.520] And the options were yes, no, no, but they should. And the winner was no, but they should with 44%.
[48:38.240 -> 48:45.440] The second place was actually no, that people, most people, 33% of people did not think that Paris should be replaced.
[48:46.960 -> 48:53.680] I guess that's fair. Like, you know, I think there's the should he be in the is he being
[48:53.680 -> 48:59.200] supported? Like that strikes a whole other conversation of of it all. Again, I'd love.
[49:00.000 -> 49:05.360] I think it is very nuanced. I don't think Checo is failing in Red Bull because he's a bad driver.
[49:05.360 -> 49:09.520] No. Of course not. Yes, I hope that's very clear. I hope this is like,
[49:09.520 -> 49:16.400] even if this is your first episode listening of Gridwalk, that's nothing against his driving.
[49:16.400 -> 49:20.880] No. I'm just personally invested in having an interesting championship, and the only way to
[49:20.880 -> 49:30.200] make that happen is to put someone in that seat who might be able to compete with max so like if you put a Lando in that seat, there's at least a choice an option and a
[49:30.960 -> 49:35.440] Possibility we can hold on to we all know at this point what Checo is in comparison to max
[49:35.440 -> 49:43.320] So if we go into next season with that or honestly with Daniel Ricardo either and I'm sorry like there's just no hope
[49:43.800 -> 49:45.360] No Hi either and I'm sorry, like, there's just no hope. No, there's no entertainment.
[49:45.360 -> 49:50.560] How I, I, don't, look, don't listen to Daniel Ricciardo. If you're listening,
[49:50.560 -> 49:55.760] I'm covering my Daniel Ricciardo hat. I have said, and I will say again, Daniel Ricciardo
[49:55.760 -> 50:07.280] in the Red Bull seat is someone that will be team mortars for Max. Like, I don't buy into that he would be a competitive person against Max.
[50:07.280 -> 50:14.440] It would be the, I think, the dream driver of falling into line of what they would want
[50:14.440 -> 50:18.720] to support of Max and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[50:18.720 -> 50:21.680] So I also don't think that would necessarily be the most exciting thing.
[50:21.680 -> 50:24.040] Would I be amped about it for, like, the content?
[50:24.040 -> 50:29.280] Of course, but, like, that's two separate two separate like pieces that we're discussing right now.
[50:29.320 -> 50:31.280] It would have been very interesting to see if like,
[50:31.880 -> 50:33.280] they make me fall asleep.
[50:33.280 -> 50:34.360] Sorry, bad timing.
[50:34.360 -> 50:35.360] I thought that was the worst.
[50:35.360 -> 50:38.800] I just kept thinking, I just always keep thinking back to like
[50:39.080 -> 50:41.320] Checo of Monaco last year of like,
[50:41.760 -> 50:44.880] the, oh, I should have held out of signing my contract and like this, that,
[50:44.880 -> 50:45.040] and everything felt, that, and
[50:45.040 -> 50:50.900] everything felt like so alive and just like, this was going to be like this unstoppable
[50:50.900 -> 50:56.600] duo everywhere and it fell flat so fast.
[50:56.600 -> 50:59.080] They make me fall asleep.
[50:59.080 -> 51:04.120] F1 teams were heavy against Andretti to the media this week.
[51:04.120 -> 51:08.400] They even had some of the drivers out there making quotes about it as well.
[51:08.400 -> 51:11.660] How long until F1 approves the 11th team?
[51:11.660 -> 51:16.080] The options were during the upcoming North American Tripleheader, which if they were
[51:16.080 -> 51:19.680] going to approve them would feel like a good PR time to do it.
[51:19.680 -> 51:21.440] By the end of this season?
[51:21.440 -> 51:22.840] In the offseason?
[51:22.840 -> 51:30.080] Never. end of this season, in the offseason, never. And the winner was in the offseason at 57%.
[51:30.080 -> 51:34.640] What did you vote? I don't honestly, I actually don't remember which one I voted. I remember
[51:34.640 -> 51:39.880] looking at either saying, I think if, if the pressure is working, I think it will be in
[51:39.880 -> 51:47.560] the offseason. If F1 and Liberty Media sticks to their guns, I think they'll say no. And
[51:47.560 -> 51:53.560] I don't, I am so unsure of how this will play out. So I don't remember how I voted, but
[51:53.560 -> 52:00.440] those were, those were my two in that, in that belief of, I don't think it, if, go,
[52:00.440 -> 52:06.440] oh yes, you have all the answers. I do you ended up voting offseason just me. Yeah. Yeah
[52:07.240 -> 52:10.920] there is some interesting things at play here because
[52:11.940 -> 52:12.960] well
[52:12.960 -> 52:15.320] The European Union has much stricter
[52:15.920 -> 52:21.660] Antitrust laws than America, but I just realized that I think it they're not in Europe anymore
[52:21.660 -> 52:25.320] They're just in the UK and I don't know anything about the UK's
[52:25.320 -> 52:31.720] antitrust laws in comparison. Basically what I'm rambling about here is that there's more
[52:31.720 -> 52:40.520] at play. Like they might actually end up needing...Andretti probably could take F1 to court with an antitrust
[52:40.520 -> 52:46.720] case if they don't get approved. So I do think there's some element of inevitability,
[52:46.720 -> 52:51.720] but it's what F1 makes Andre give up for the approval.
[52:52.740 -> 52:53.580] Right.
[52:53.580 -> 52:57.380] It just, it felt like seeing so much business
[52:57.380 -> 53:00.180] and the way that business business does the business,
[53:00.180 -> 53:03.020] as soon as FIA, as the FIA like released
[53:03.020 -> 53:04.540] this whole big public statement,
[53:04.540 -> 53:06.400] it was kind of just felt like it was like,
[53:06.400 -> 53:12.800] oh, like F1's going to maybe pull a, like, okay, fine. Like you're going to pressure us into doing
[53:12.800 -> 53:17.520] this. Like, sure. Well, like it's going to happen. Let's see you crash and burn. Not that they want
[53:17.520 -> 53:21.040] it to do that, but it's almost like if you're going to push to a point of like, you want this
[53:21.040 -> 53:26.000] so bad and it just then happens. I mean, not that I want necessarily
[53:26.000 -> 53:33.640] like another team to like, come in and not do well, but it, I still have not just not seen any
[53:33.640 -> 53:34.760] evidence of that way.
[53:35.560 -> 53:41.800] The FIA has definitely decided that this is what they're going to use their non-existent political
[53:41.800 -> 53:46.720] capital on by strong arming F1 into this decision. I don't know if you saw that
[53:46.720 -> 53:52.320] Mohammed bin Salam this weekend came out and said that F1 needs less races and more teams
[53:52.320 -> 53:56.400] and I don't think you can blatantly put on a silver platter what makes them more money
[53:57.040 -> 54:03.280] than that. Like what makes FOM the most money is more races because they can sell the media rights
[54:03.280 -> 54:07.400] and they get tickets and the FIA makes more money the more teams there are.
[54:07.400 -> 54:11.200] So like, yep, we get that that's what you want and we get that that's what Liberty Media
[54:11.200 -> 54:13.960] wants and that's honestly what makes this whole thing so interesting is that they have
[54:13.960 -> 54:16.880] conflicting things to push for.
[54:16.880 -> 54:21.960] Someone starts throwing around like manufacturer talk and I'm just like stop.
[54:21.960 -> 54:26.800] Your side of this is so evidently clear like I and I will say I've said
[54:26.800 -> 54:31.200] this before and I will say it again but Andre is not bringing a manufacturer with them they're
[54:31.200 -> 54:36.880] bringing a sponsor with them the same way that I don't believe Ford is a real manufacturer
[54:36.880 -> 54:42.800] Red Bull is making power units and slapping a Ford badge on it they're it's a sponsorship like
[54:48.200 -> 54:53.000] it. It's a sponsorship. Like having more OEMs in the sport required the OEMs to make, to manufacture the engines. You know? So, eh.
[54:53.000 -> 54:59.440] Maybe we'll get to go a week without talking about Andre, but probably not yet.
[54:59.440 -> 55:05.280] I highly doubt we'll go an entire week. right, two more polls here. Should track limits
[55:05.280 -> 55:10.200] be monitored at all? 80% of the people said yes, which they're right, because
[55:10.200 -> 55:18.280] rules. It ain't hard. Yeah, we'll talk more about that in a second. We'll talk
[55:18.280 -> 55:23.240] more about that in an upcoming segment. And last poll of the weekend was overall
[55:23.240 -> 55:26.720] the Qatar GP weekend was essentially chaotic
[55:26.720 -> 55:29.080] good, chaotic evil, chaotic neutral.
[55:29.080 -> 55:33.720] But I phrased it as chaotic but enjoyable, chaotic in a bad way, and chaotic neutral
[55:33.720 -> 55:34.720] was the last option.
[55:34.720 -> 55:42.160] 56% of people who voted said chaotic bad, 33% said chaotic good, and 11% said chaotic
[55:42.160 -> 55:43.160] neutral.
[55:43.160 -> 55:44.160] Where did you land on this, Nicole?
[55:44.160 -> 55:52.440] I think I said chaotic bad. Yeah. Yeah. That was definitely my energy and my mood.
[55:52.440 -> 55:59.040] There was opportunity for chaotic good and then it just went so far off the
[55:59.040 -> 56:04.120] rails with negative safety and track limits and tire limits and like
[56:04.120 -> 56:06.160] everything we've talked about today that I was
[56:06.160 -> 56:11.680] just like ah and then and then the unspeakable happens that we are avoiding as the elephant
[56:11.680 -> 56:17.280] in the room for a reason what happened I mean I know what happened don't tell me there was a
[56:17.280 -> 56:25.720] grand prix and everything went great it great, it was fine.
[56:29.960 -> 56:34.000] Um, speaking of Ka-chow, I have a very big concern about the- how much Travis Kelsey does look like Lightning McQueen with a mustache.
[56:38.600 -> 56:40.600] Have you not seen this on Twitter?
[56:40.600 -> 56:42.360] Is this just a meme thing?
[56:42.360 -> 56:46.320] I should have known that my timeline is like this.
[56:46.320 -> 56:52.800] Yeah, so there's a lot on social media a lot for the last four or five days. So it could be there.
[56:52.800 -> 56:59.840] And I just didn't even know when I saw it. I don't know life before seeing lightning McKelsey,
[56:59.840 -> 57:05.000] but I can't go back to not seeing it because it literally is just,
[57:05.000 -> 57:07.500] like people just were like, you know,
[57:07.500 -> 57:08.340] it's him you're supposed to.
[57:08.340 -> 57:09.720] Things are shifting in my brain
[57:09.720 -> 57:13.280] that I don't know how to feel about.
[57:13.280 -> 57:16.800] I really blame Lightning McQueen being red on all of this.
[57:16.800 -> 57:17.640] I really think it was.
[57:17.640 -> 57:18.720] It definitely doesn't help.
[57:18.720 -> 57:23.720] It doesn't, it really, it's super cheap, all of it's there.
[57:24.360 -> 57:26.200] I don't know if he looks more or less like it
[57:26.200 -> 57:27.920] because of the mustache, though.
[57:27.920 -> 57:31.280] Like, I'm thinking like him with one of his different looks.
[57:31.280 -> 57:33.840] Like, it might just be the buzz cut and the mustache.
[57:33.840 -> 57:36.320] It is, and it's weird because every time I've seen it,
[57:36.320 -> 57:40.440] it's also people just put his mustache on Lightning McQueen.
[57:40.440 -> 57:42.520] So it's a combination of all of it,
[57:42.520 -> 57:43.400] and I don't know why,
[57:43.400 -> 57:46.300] because Lightning McQueen doesn't give me mustache energy.
[57:46.300 -> 57:49.800] How did we get here? I just said this. That's how we got here.
[57:49.800 -> 57:51.800] I just brought this up.
[57:51.800 -> 57:54.300] Now this is not getting cut out.
[57:54.300 -> 57:59.500] That other thing is, but this is definitely staying in the podcast.
[57:59.500 -> 58:03.100] Comment below, does Travis Kelsey look like Lightning McQueen,
[58:03.100 -> 58:05.400] or does Lightning McQueen look like Travis Kelsey?
[58:06.160 -> 58:10.400] Well, the multi viewer track limits graphic was
[58:11.120 -> 58:13.120] beautiful help this week
[58:13.380 -> 58:19.600] For starters, if you don't use F1 multi viewer, you are missing out. It is the greatest gift to F1 fans everywhere. They also have
[58:20.360 -> 58:25.000] World Endurance Championship and IndyCar multi vieweriewer options, if you watched those series.
[58:25.000 -> 58:31.000] This is not a sponsored plug, this is just me obsessing over the fact that multiviewer has made my F1 experience, like,
[58:31.000 -> 58:35.000] it's gone from something I enjoy to something I obsess over.
[58:35.000 -> 58:40.000] It is the best thing ever. And the track limits tracker, well, it just feels silly.
[58:40.000 -> 58:44.000] Oh, incredible, beautiful, just, really.
[58:44.000 -> 58:47.320] Hey, YouTube audience. Who isn't using
[58:47.320 -> 58:51.880] multi viewer? I don't think I've ever met a person, but so. People who don't have access
[58:51.880 -> 58:58.000] to F1 TV. Which I also am sorry for you if you don't get access to F1 TV, because F1
[58:58.000 -> 59:08.320] TV is awesome. Yeah, that it is. But, track limits are annoying to watch but I am team they should be monitored and I'm going to be
[59:08.320 -> 59:13.840] annoying and talk about the NFL for the second time this week already but if someone makes a catch in
[59:13.840 -> 59:19.360] the NFL but they don't get their feet in bounds it's not a catch because the rules are you have
[59:19.360 -> 59:25.920] to stay in bounds so to me if an F1 driver does a fast lap but they didn't stay in bounds. So to me, if an F1 driver does a fast lap, but they didn't stay in
[59:25.920 -> 59:32.880] bounds, then it's not a fast lap. So I'm kind of team, yeah, gotta penalize the
[59:32.880 -> 59:37.220] driver if they're not gonna follow the rules. So I'm definitely not, ah just let
[59:37.220 -> 59:46.280] it go. No, there are rules. We penalize drivers for rules, but I'm also team it's really annoying as a viewer of this sport.
[59:47.720 -> 59:54.720] Yeah, the end of like, oh my god, like my favorite driver, look at this, do it so well, or oh wow, look at this driver, da da da.
[59:54.720 -> 01:00:01.760] Up track limits, bloop, there they go, back to the bottom and that's no fun because then I'm like, what am I watching?
[01:00:01.760 -> 01:00:09.600] What's the point? I might as well just like wait till the session's over and then just see where everything falls and like, lays out.
[01:00:09.600 -> 01:00:16.200] I'm not one to compliment the FIA much, if you're an avid listener of this podcast, but
[01:00:16.200 -> 01:00:26.720] I have to say, this weekend, compared to Austria, which was in July, was the FIA were so much faster. And I don't think they missed anything.
[01:00:26.720 -> 01:00:29.780] And there wasn't any confusion of,
[01:00:29.780 -> 01:00:32.820] like, I don't know if you remember those qualifying sessions
[01:00:32.820 -> 01:00:34.720] where they were like sitting in the garage
[01:00:34.720 -> 01:00:36.400] between sessions for ages,
[01:00:36.400 -> 01:00:38.420] as like they sifted through all the laps
[01:00:38.420 -> 01:00:40.580] to figure out if there were track limits.
[01:00:40.580 -> 01:00:43.280] Like they did a much better job monitoring.
[01:00:43.280 -> 01:00:44.120] If you're interested-
[01:00:44.120 -> 01:00:45.960] The response time was a lot better. Unbelievably better. It really felt like a driver did a much better job monitoring. The response time was a lot better.
[01:00:45.960 -> 01:00:46.960] Unbelievably better.
[01:00:46.960 -> 01:00:52.480] It really felt like a driver did a lap and then we immediately were told whether or not
[01:00:52.480 -> 01:00:56.120] it was within bounds.
[01:00:56.120 -> 01:01:01.960] If you're interested though in how the FIA could get even better, we did a whole segment
[01:01:01.960 -> 01:01:06.300] after that GP in July where we broke down all the
[01:01:06.300 -> 01:01:10.200] different technology that the FIA could be using to make their lives even easier
[01:01:10.200 -> 01:01:13.320] in monitoring this. We'll link that in the comments below. If you're watching on
[01:01:13.320 -> 01:01:17.560] YouTube also put it in that little card that pops up in the corner like there.
[01:01:17.560 -> 01:01:26.880] I actually realized I don't know if I'm pointing in the right direction so I don't know one of these corners yeah Nicole's just waving
[01:01:28.880 -> 01:01:36.800] um but the FIA did better this weekend in telling us immediately what was going on um
[01:01:36.800 -> 01:01:40.720] understanding had how sick all the drivers were feeling I understand why there were about seven
[01:01:40.720 -> 01:01:45.240] million track limits violations during the race itself because yeah, they
[01:01:45.240 -> 01:01:49.600] couldn't keep it on track because they were feeling awful.
[01:01:49.600 -> 01:01:54.760] And I second compliment of the FIA in this segment is that I was really impressed that
[01:01:54.760 -> 01:01:59.280] they came out after the race and said they're evaluating whether or not this race and Austria
[01:01:59.280 -> 01:02:03.840] can stay on the calendar going forward because they are the only two circuits this year so
[01:02:03.840 -> 01:02:05.880] far that have even had this as an issue
[01:02:05.880 -> 01:02:08.120] because of the layouts of the track.
[01:02:08.120 -> 01:02:11.040] And I think that's really fair that they should,
[01:02:11.040 -> 01:02:13.960] I mean, I think the FIA needs to get better at monitoring it
[01:02:13.960 -> 01:02:17.400] and I think the track should be able to make changes
[01:02:17.400 -> 01:02:20.620] to make it a more enjoyable watching experience for us.
[01:02:21.820 -> 01:02:24.480] The last podium of this race weekend
[01:02:24.480 -> 01:02:26.000] is called Is Haas Real?
[01:02:31.440 -> 01:02:37.120] And this is a special podium because there's only a P2 and a P1, because nothing else feels like it
[01:02:37.120 -> 01:02:41.680] was deserving of being with these other two things. And yes, this is really just an excuse
[01:02:41.680 -> 01:02:50.400] to talk about this. So in P2, Nico Hulkenberg gets a 10 second penalty for starting in the wrong position.
[01:02:50.400 -> 01:02:51.800] How?
[01:02:51.800 -> 01:02:53.120] Why?
[01:02:53.120 -> 01:02:54.360] How?
[01:02:54.360 -> 01:02:57.520] It just forgets.
[01:02:57.520 -> 01:03:00.440] Ah, open space, must move.
[01:03:00.440 -> 01:03:01.720] Right.
[01:03:01.720 -> 01:03:07.500] It's not that they all line up on the grid before the formation lap and he's in a specific place,
[01:03:07.500 -> 01:03:12.500] and then when he comes in from the formation lap, moves to a different place.
[01:03:12.500 -> 01:03:18.500] But, how is Haas real? I don't know. Haas exists.
[01:03:18.500 -> 01:03:22.000] Ken's car is... Ken's job is car.
[01:03:47.000 -> 01:03:48.000] Ken's job is car. P1 is Hoss real. Hanging a cup outside to measure the wind direction. This multi-million dollar sporting organization. Cup.
[01:03:48.000 -> 01:03:49.000] Cup.
[01:03:49.000 -> 01:03:50.000] Cup.
[01:03:50.000 -> 01:03:51.000] That's it.
[01:03:51.000 -> 01:03:52.000] Is Hustle real?
[01:03:52.000 -> 01:03:53.000] Cup?
[01:03:53.000 -> 01:03:54.000] Welcome back to Yellow Sector Notes.
[01:03:54.000 -> 01:03:55.000] Not the fastest walk around F1, but we will complete a full lap around the paddock hitting
[01:03:55.000 -> 01:03:56.000] every F1 garage.
[01:03:56.000 -> 01:03:57.000] Starting with Red Bull, Max had a really cool special world champion helmet, and we'll
[01:03:57.000 -> 01:03:58.000] be talking about that in a bit.
[01:03:58.000 -> 01:03:59.000] But first, let's get into the video.
[01:03:59.000 -> 01:04:00.000] Welcome back to Yellow Sector Notes.
[01:04:00.000 -> 01:04:01.000] Not the fastest walk around F1, but we will complete a full lap around the paddock hitting
[01:04:01.000 -> 01:04:02.000] every F1 garage.
[01:04:02.000 -> 01:04:03.000] Starting with Red Bull, Max had a really cool special world champion helmet, and we'll
[01:04:03.000 -> 01:04:04.000] be talking about that in a bit.
[01:04:04.000 -> 01:04:07.040] But first, let's get into the video. Welcome back to Yellow Sector Notes. Not the fastest walk around F1, but we will complete a full lap around the paddock hitting every F1 garage.
[01:04:07.040 -> 01:04:10.480] Starting with Red Bull, Maxx had a really cool special world champion helmet this weekend,
[01:04:10.480 -> 01:04:11.880] I loved the color scheme.
[01:04:11.880 -> 01:04:19.400] Lewis continues to tease some new venture by following a private Instagram account.
[01:04:19.400 -> 01:04:24.440] Also Mercedes note additional, they confirmed that there's going to be a new floor coming
[01:04:24.440 -> 01:04:30.040] to the USGP. It has been decently formally announced now that Astraea plans to
[01:04:30.040 -> 01:04:33.120] leave Ferrari as a sponsor at the end of the season and it's rumored that they
[01:04:33.120 -> 01:04:37.000] might join Alonso at Aston Martin. So basically the Spanish beer brand that has gone
[01:04:37.000 -> 01:04:44.680] everywhere with Carlos Sainz is leaving Carlos Sainz. I don't know, drama. Lance is apparently under FIA
[01:04:44.680 -> 01:04:47.560] investigation for some of the incidents that happened at
[01:04:47.560 -> 01:04:49.280] the GP last weekend.
[01:04:49.280 -> 01:04:53.760] McLaren, if you haven't heard, set a world record with their 1.8 second pit stop this
[01:04:53.760 -> 01:04:55.240] weekend which is absurd.
[01:04:55.240 -> 01:04:59.960] It's also crazy that Red Bull no longer holds that record because they are like the pit
[01:04:59.960 -> 01:05:02.480] stop kings and queens.
[01:05:02.480 -> 01:05:06.780] Alpine probably should have signed Oscar Piastri. Moving on to
[01:05:06.780 -> 01:05:11.680] Al-Fatahri. This is Nicole's last race without Daniel Ricciardo for at least
[01:05:11.680 -> 01:05:18.100] the rest of the season. He's also teased that he's dropping music. If you're not
[01:05:18.100 -> 01:05:21.980] watching on YouTube, Nicole is silently screaming right now for all the reasons
[01:05:21.980 -> 01:05:27.440] and things we just said. Williams dropped their USGP merch line again this year.
[01:05:27.440 -> 01:05:31.680] I mean, I still super regret not getting the hockey jersey that they dropped last year.
[01:05:31.680 -> 01:05:33.000] It was so cool.
[01:05:33.000 -> 01:05:34.560] I'm sad I missed the opportunity.
[01:05:34.560 -> 01:05:37.040] So if you like something, pick it up, because you'll probably regret it.
[01:05:37.040 -> 01:05:41.920] Williams continues to do the most with their merch, and I liked it.
[01:05:41.920 -> 01:05:45.500] VB has teased that he's dropping a coffee collab.
[01:05:45.500 -> 01:05:48.260] Haas announced their rookie driver FP1 sessions.
[01:05:48.260 -> 01:05:50.460] The first is going to be at the Mexico GP.
[01:05:50.460 -> 01:05:52.100] And last but not least, guess what?
[01:05:52.100 -> 01:05:57.420] Pirelli is back until 2027 as the F1 tire supplier.
[01:05:57.420 -> 01:05:59.820] I'm super hyped.
[01:05:59.820 -> 01:06:03.380] That is the grid walk for October 12th, 2023 completed.
[01:06:03.380 -> 01:06:05.340] How was my sector time today, Nicole?
[01:06:05.340 -> 01:06:07.940] Faster than Lauren Stroll gave
[01:06:07.940 -> 01:06:10.660] Anti-Andretti joining the Grid quotes.
[01:06:12.420 -> 01:06:14.460] Oh, he was there super fast.
[01:06:14.460 -> 01:06:16.300] Oh, you basically had to know
[01:06:16.300 -> 01:06:18.100] he was almost gonna be first.
[01:06:18.100 -> 01:06:21.500] You know what, they all got together
[01:06:21.500 -> 01:06:23.700] and decided who's gonna be the face
[01:06:23.700 -> 01:06:24.840] and do this first interview.
[01:06:24.840 -> 01:06:26.400] And it honestly was probably a good choice
[01:06:26.400 -> 01:06:28.400] I volunteer as tribute
[01:06:28.700 -> 01:06:30.800] Thank you to voiceover man
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[01:07:31.080 -> 01:07:34.720] every single Thursday, and we sincerely hope you join us.
[01:07:34.720 -> 01:07:38.520] But today kind of felt like a grid avoidance
[01:07:38.520 -> 01:07:40.480] of whatever happened to turn one in guitar
[01:07:40.480 -> 01:07:41.320] and not a gridwalk.
[01:07:41.320 -> 01:07:42.720] Nothing happened to turn one in guitar.
[01:07:42.720 -> 01:07:44.000] I don't know what you're talking about.
[01:07:44.000 -> 01:07:45.280] It starts at turn two. It starts at turn two.
[01:07:45.280 -> 01:07:46.480] It starts at turn two.