The Austrian GP was [DELETED FOR TRACK LIMITS] | Formula 1 British Grand Prix Preview | Grid Walk July 6, 2023

The Austrian Grand Prix was definitely [DELETED FOR VIOLATING TRACK LIMITS]. On episode 24 of Grid Walk, Briana and Nicole go through the events that led to a podium for Max Verstappen, Charles Leclerc, and Sergio Perez.

Several drivers have purchased a ticket to Frustration Station after the Austrian Grand Prix! Scuderia Ferrari did not make it easy for driver Carlos Sainz who was clearly upset on the team radio. The other Ferrari driver Charles Leclerc also had a moment of distress on the radio when the team was trying to convince him of a 3 stop race! If Sergio Perez wants to convince Oracle Red Bull Racing that he deserves his seat he better not let MoneyGram Haas F1 Team’s driver Nico Hülkenberg pass him. Meanwhile at Scuderia Alpha Tauri, Yuki Tsunoda would probably love to be driving any other car on the F1 grid. Mercedes-AMG Petronas F1 Team and Lewis Hamilton sounded like they couldn’t wait for the Austrian Grand Prix to be over.

After all of the track limits penalties at the Austrian Grand Prix, it is time for the return of Into The Wild. Briana does a deep dive into what the “zebras” of other motorsports do for their regulation practices. What is Video Assistant Referee? Why are walls, sausage curbs, gravel traps, grass not the answer? How can the Snickometer in cricket and Hawk-Eye in tennis help F1 stewards?

It’s Sir Lewis Hamilton Week also known as the British Grand Prix! Silverstone is basically a guarantee for some great racing. Will Lewis Hamilton have a better home race with Mercedes-AMG Petronas F1 Team? How will the new Pirelli tires affect the race weekend? Was Mclaren F1 Team’s success at the Austrian Grand Prix showing that their upgrades worked or was it just Lando Norris’s driving?

SPOILER ALERT: Either Briana or Nicole picked a drive besides Oracle Red Bull Racing’s Max Verstappen to finish P1 at Silverstone.

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00:00 It is Sir Lewis Hamilton Week!

02:20 Welcome to The Austrian GP Frustration Station

04:26 Carlos Sainz & Ferrari

08:15 Charles Leclerc

09:49 Lance Stroll

10:46 Lewis Hamilton & Mercedes

12:51 Welcome to the Coping Corner

16:26 Yuki Tsunoda

18:12 Checo Perez

19:28 Formula 1 Fans!

24:06 Into the Wild: The FIA have a Track Limits Problem

33:08 Research Into Options to Help Stewarding

36:38 Moto GP

39:20 Cricket

40:46 Tennis

42:10 Hockey and Soccer (Futbol)

42:34 NFL

43:05 NASCAR

43:59 Formula E

49:35 British Grand Prix Preview

54:36 F1 British GP Predictions

01:01:19 F1 Academy Race Predictions

01:04:23 Yellow Sector Notes: One Story From Every Team

**Frustration Station:**

* **Carlos Sainz:** His struggles with Ferrari's strategy calls, leading to a missed podium opportunity.
* **Charles Leclerc:** His frustration with Ferrari's three-stop strategy proposal, showcasing his growth in asserting his opinions.
* **Lance Stroll:** Aston Martin's puzzling decision to pit him three times in a race where minimizing pit stops was crucial.
* **Lewis Hamilton:** His struggles with Mercedes' car setup, leading to a disappointing race and growing concerns about the team's competitiveness.
* **Yuki Tsunoda:** His ongoing struggles with the AlphaTauri car, despite his impressive performances in previous races.
* **Sergio Perez:** His underwhelming performance, falling behind the Ferrari that intended to do a three-stop strategy and being overtaken by Nico Hulkenberg in a Haas during the sprint race.

**Into the Wild: Track Limit Solutions:**

* **Safety:** Any solution must prioritize safety and avoid increasing the risk of DNFs.
* **Consistency:** The FIA needs to apply the rules correctly and consistently during races, rather than relying on drivers to "do better."
* **Exploitation:** Drivers and teams will always seek advantages, so the onus is on the FIA to effectively regulate and control the races.

**Current Situation and Issues:**

* **Manual Review:** The FIA's current system relies on race control personnel manually reviewing photo and video feeds to determine track limit violations.
* **Speed and Accuracy:** The manual review process is slow and subjective, leading to delays and potential inaccuracies in decision-making.
* **Volume of Data:** The sheer number of data points that need to be reviewed (hundreds of thousands) makes it challenging for the race control team to effectively monitor all aspects of the race.

**FIA's Video Assistant Referee (VAR):**

* **Misinterpretation:** The FIA's implementation of VAR is not a true video assistant referee system, as it lacks the decision-making authority of a traditional VAR in other sports.
* **Limited Functionality:** The FIA's VAR, known as the Remote Operations Center (ROC), serves as a supporting resource without the power to directly influence stewarding or race control decisions.

**Potential Solutions:**

* **Automated Systems:** Utilizing AI and computer algorithms to assist in track limit monitoring, reducing the reliance on manual reviews and increasing the speed and accuracy of decision-making.
* **Real-Time Feedback:** Providing real-time feedback to drivers during the race, alerting them to potential track limit violations and encouraging compliance.
* **Clearer Guidelines:** Establishing clearer and more objective track limit guidelines to reduce ambiguity and ensure consistent application of the rules.
* **Increased Penalties:** Implementing stricter penalties for repeated track limit violations to deter drivers from pushing the boundaries.
* **Collaboration with Other Sports:** Learning from other sports that have successfully implemented track limit monitoring systems, such as MotoGP and IndyCar.

**Track Limits:**

* The current system for monitoring track limits is inadequate, leading to inconsistent and controversial rulings.
* The FIA has been criticized for its handling of track limits, with many calling for a more transparent and objective approach.
* Several potential solutions exist, including the use of pressure tubes, Hawkeye Innovations technology, and lasers.

**Technology:**

* The podcast explores various technological solutions that could be implemented to improve track limits monitoring.
* Pressure tubes, which detect when a car goes off-track, are used in MotoGP and could be adapted for Formula One.
* Hawkeye Innovations technology, which uses multiple cameras to create a virtual representation of the track, could also be used to monitor track limits.
* Lasers, which can detect the difference in paint between the track and the runoff area, offer a cost-effective and accurate solution.

**Silverstone Predictions:**

* The British Grand Prix is set to take place at Silverstone, a track that is known for its high-speed corners and challenging layout.
* Mercedes is expected to perform well at Silverstone, as the track suits their car's characteristics.
* Ferrari and Aston Martin are also bringing new tire compounds to the race, which could give them an advantage.
* McLaren's recent upgrade has shown promise, but it remains to be seen if it will be effective at Silverstone.

**Hopium:**

* The podcast concludes with a discussion of the upcoming British Grand Prix and predictions for the race.
* The hosts express their hope that Lewis Hamilton will win his home race, although they acknowledge that Max Verstappen is the favorite.

**Additional Points:**

* The podcast highlights the importance of finding a solution to the track limits issue, as it has become a major source of controversy and frustration in Formula One.
* The hosts emphasize the need for the FIA to take a more proactive approach to addressing the problem and implementing a fair and consistent system for monitoring track limits.
* The discussion of technological solutions provides a glimpse into the future of Formula One and the potential for technology to improve the sport.
* The podcast's predictions for the British Grand Prix add an element of excitement and anticipation to the upcoming race.

## F1 Predictions

- Briana and Nicole both predict that McLaren will score the most points among the bottom-ranked teams.
- They also agree that Esteban Ocon will finish in the top 10.

## F1 Academy Predictions

- Briana selects Hamda Al Qubaisi, Marta Garcia, and Lena Buhler as her top three picks.
- Nicole chooses Hamda Al Qubaisi, Marta Garcia, and Carrie Schreiner.

## Yellow Sector Notes

- The hosts discuss various news and updates from the Formula One paddock.
- They talk about Max Verstappen and Christian Horner's concerns about the 2026 regulations, Carlos Sainz's criticism of Ferrari's strategy calls, and Lewis Hamilton's special British GP hat.
- They also discuss Esteban Ocon's tribute to Anthoine Hubert, Gunther Steiner's continued criticism of the FIA, and Audi's announcement of its first development driver.

## Conclusion

- The hosts wrap up the podcast by discussing McLaren's special chrome livery for the British GP and Williams' special livery to honor their 800th Grand Prix entry.
- They also encourage listeners to follow and interact with the podcast on social media.

[00:00.000 -> 00:02.320] I had some coffee, I now feel like I'm ready to do this.
[00:03.920 -> 00:06.800] Chugs Celsius in victory hoping.
[00:08.000 -> 00:12.000] Chugs from Lewis Hamilton mug while wearing Lewis Hamilton world champion shirt and Lewis
[00:12.000 -> 00:14.880] Hamilton hat to manifest positive things.
[00:15.760 -> 00:21.680] Cole and Brown are lined up on the grid, it's lights out and away we go this week's grid walk.
[00:23.680 -> 00:27.680] Well there was a race last weekend and I guess we have to talk about it because that's
[00:27.680 -> 00:29.760] what we do every week.
[00:29.760 -> 00:33.200] Unless the FIA deletes this episode for track limits.
[00:33.200 -> 00:35.200] Five seconds for track limits attorney.
[00:35.200 -> 00:38.080] Thank you, voiceover man.
[00:38.080 -> 00:42.540] Before we get started, a reminder up front, don't forget to follow the podcast wherever
[00:42.540 -> 00:43.540] you're listening to it.
[00:43.540 -> 00:47.240] Subscribe on YouTube, leave us a comment or review.
[00:47.240 -> 00:51.320] For this week, let us know which of the many track limit solutions we're going to discuss
[00:51.320 -> 00:53.440] is your favorite option for F1.
[00:53.440 -> 00:57.900] But today, episode 24, the Kobe Bryant episode of Gridwalk.
[00:57.900 -> 01:00.600] Also the Joe Guan Yu episode.
[01:00.600 -> 01:07.000] Yes, which is one of my favorite fun facts is that he drives under 24 because he loves Kobe Bryant.
[01:07.000 -> 01:14.000] All right, today though, we're gonna see who bought a ticket at the frustration station after the Austrian GP.
[01:14.000 -> 01:21.000] A race that gave us plenty of headlines, but none of them seem to have anything to do with the actual racing or on-track performance.
[01:21.000 -> 01:35.380] We're gonna then take the train from the frustration station into the
[01:35.380 -> 01:42.840] wild to examine the zebras of Formula One and their decisions or lack thereof. We review
[01:42.840 -> 01:45.680] all the possible solutions for track limit monitoring and
[01:45.680 -> 01:50.040] what what do other racing series use what can f1 learn from other sports
[01:50.040 -> 01:54.640] because there are a lot of ways that this problem can be solved so we're
[01:54.640 -> 01:59.360] gonna talk about all of them. We then turn our attention to Sir Lewis Hamilton
[01:59.360 -> 02:06.880] Grand Prix. It's Lewis Hamilton week. What teams are bringing upgrades?
[02:06.880 -> 02:10.280] How does this circuit differ from last week at the Red Bull Ring?
[02:10.280 -> 02:14.280] And of course we will make our predictions for the race.
[02:14.280 -> 02:17.120] I think I've been putting it off long enough now though.
[02:17.120 -> 02:19.680] All aboard to Frustration Station.
[02:19.680 -> 02:25.060] Attention all passengers, the train is now approaching frustration station all
[02:25.060 -> 02:29.780] ticket purchasers please report to track 8. I like that we can laugh now because
[02:29.780 -> 02:36.380] I definitely wasn't laughing necessarily on Sunday while watching this race I was
[02:36.380 -> 02:45.000] screaming screaming I was so angry I felt so frustrated for because it's the best word to use.
[02:46.000 -> 03:08.640] It was an unenjoyable experience to watch, despite like, like I'm not even upset about who got penalties or that there were penalties. It was the way that it, the story of the race had to be told, because the way the stewarding was being administered
[03:09.360 -> 03:14.320] and it was it was like they decided midway through the race that they were going to care
[03:14.320 -> 03:17.760] about track limits and then they were only going to care about it when someone complained over the
[03:17.760 -> 03:26.560] radio about it and it just the entire it made the experience unpleasant. Yeah, I was in the frustration station
[03:27.400 -> 03:29.400] It felt like we were watching
[03:31.020 -> 03:35.920] That kid in class that starts caring like halfway through the semester they're like, oh my god
[03:35.920 -> 03:39.820] I'm gonna fail this prop like this class if I don't start like turning in things
[03:39.920 -> 03:43.480] What are the homework that I missed and need to catch up with like now?
[03:43.480 -> 03:47.800] But but but but but but but but but all this stuff and and then it was just like a
[03:48.080 -> 03:52.800] Scramble to finish it and just oh we didn't have time to review all these things. It's like do better fix this
[03:53.540 -> 03:55.440] it was so
[03:55.440 -> 03:59.180] not the not the way I wanted to be watching the race and
[03:59.520 -> 04:05.440] Not what again to your point what I wanted to be listening people talking about during the race.
[04:06.480 -> 04:11.520] This is the FIA's doing if they only review things when drivers complain over the radio
[04:11.520 -> 04:15.840] and it gets played on the live feed what are the drivers going to do more of complain over the live
[04:15.840 -> 04:25.000] feed but there there were other frustrations. So who's our first passenger at the Frustration Station?
[04:25.000 -> 04:27.000] Who's bought a ticket?
[04:27.000 -> 04:30.000] Carlos Sainz, please report to track 8 at Frustration Station.
[04:30.000 -> 04:33.000] Your train is almost ready to depart.
[04:33.000 -> 04:39.000] So actually the inspiration to this segment while watching the race I had in my brain
[04:39.000 -> 04:44.000] was before all of the madness of the crazy track limit penalties calling,
[04:44.000 -> 04:50.200] was Carlos Sainz and just his existence
[04:50.200 -> 04:59.680] with Ferrari and just his entire radio with Ferrari between when to pit and long pit stops.
[04:59.680 -> 05:05.920] It was just I felt like it was watching a slow like catching like a slow house catching fire like
[05:05.920 -> 05:15.920] it was just oh couldn't accent waiting to happen. Charles and Carlos were uh one after another on
[05:15.920 -> 05:22.160] track when the race started Carlos had more pace which isn't normally the case but he did but then
[05:22.160 -> 05:25.080] he wasn't allowed to pass his teammate, but
[05:25.080 -> 05:30.120] we had to hear them go back and forth on the radio three or four times, where, again, we
[05:30.120 -> 05:34.080] had to listen to a Ferrari engineer go, I don't know, I'll get back to you instead of
[05:34.080 -> 05:35.080] like...
[05:35.080 -> 05:36.080] Hold position.
[05:36.080 -> 05:37.080] Hold, well, there's just...
[05:37.080 -> 05:38.080] But that was when he started to say things.
[05:38.080 -> 05:41.640] For right now, for right now, it was always like a for right now, just keep doing what
[05:41.640 -> 05:51.280] you're doing with like the implication of like,'ll let you know like but it was not a I'll let you know it was just like a I don't know what's going on it
[05:51.280 -> 05:55.600] always comes across as I don't know what's going on I'll get back to you it's a lot of please hold
[05:55.600 -> 06:07.460] please hold please hold I'll get back to you so then when the safety car came out and they needed to decide what to do, Ferrari has proven this season
[06:07.460 -> 06:14.000] that they are incapable of splitting the strategies, which is driving me crazy
[06:14.000 -> 06:20.640] because the car is not as fast as Max's Red Bull. It's just not. So if there was
[06:20.640 -> 06:25.160] a chance to win this race, you split the strategies.
[06:25.160 -> 06:30.000] And yes, would that mean one of your drivers is going to finish higher than the other?
[06:30.000 -> 06:32.320] Maybe to some extreme degree? Yes.
[06:32.320 -> 06:39.480] But what they did is they pit both of them back-to-back in a double stack at the end of the safety car.
[06:39.480 -> 06:46.200] Which means not only did Carlos have a long stop, but he didn't actually get the benefit of pitting under the safety car because he pit after
[06:46.480 -> 06:50.240] Carlos- after Charles did. God, the C's, so hard.
[06:51.560 -> 06:53.560] Carlos, Charles. And...
[06:53.840 -> 07:00.720] But maybe he could have finished on the podium in front of Checo if he wasn't screwed by the strategy.
[07:00.720 -> 07:10.960] Now, of course, penalties, blah blah blah, it would have all been taken away. Anyway, I'm not talking about that it's just this is the second race week in a row where Ferrari has been unable to split their strategies and
[07:11.280 -> 07:17.320] Carlos has gotten a strategy that didn't make sense for his position on track because they can only think about one thing at a time
[07:18.520 -> 07:20.720] They were like, ah, okay pit stop cable
[07:21.160 -> 07:23.120] Charles is in front of Carlos right now
[07:23.120 -> 07:25.280] So he goes in first and obviously
[07:25.280 -> 07:30.080] we just do the same time and then they go and then everything will just be fine. No,
[07:30.080 -> 07:34.000] no, no. It's like, you think that they're going to have them walking, like running into
[07:34.000 -> 07:38.440] the pit lane, holding hands. It's insane. They can't split strategy like that. They
[07:38.440 -> 07:47.760] just will not let themselves. Uh, but yeah, this was again, all before the penalty madness started. I was like, wow,
[07:47.760 -> 07:54.080] you could just hear how unbelievably annoyed and angry Carlos is on the radio of just let me pass.
[07:54.080 -> 07:57.680] I have the pace. I have the pace. And you could see that it was there. And then it just all
[07:57.680 -> 08:07.000] went away so very fast and strategy screw over. You know, it's a bad week when I'm looking at our list of frustration station passengers
[08:07.000 -> 08:09.120] and Charles Leclerc is not on it.
[08:09.120 -> 08:12.640] Charles Leclerc, please report to track 8 at frustration station.
[08:12.640 -> 08:15.160] Your train is almost ready to depart.
[08:15.160 -> 08:20.280] So before we move off Ferrari, can I just, can we all do a moment of silence for the
[08:20.280 -> 08:26.480] fact that Ferrari actually pitched to their driver a three-stop in a race with the
[08:26.480 -> 08:33.200] longest pit delta where it would make most sense to make a one-stop work if it was anywhere feasible
[08:33.200 -> 08:39.760] or possible and Charles over the radio in the moment had to like freak out to his engineer
[08:39.760 -> 08:45.800] and like you could hear him he was essentially like is this a joke? No, no, no, no! Are you pranking me?
[08:45.800 -> 08:48.160] He's like, we're not gonna do that.
[08:48.160 -> 08:49.680] In what world?
[08:51.280 -> 08:54.080] Again, another one that we don't have on this list,
[08:54.080 -> 08:55.960] but in what world did Aston Martin think,
[08:55.960 -> 08:57.160] you know what we need to do?
[08:57.160 -> 08:59.440] We need to pit Lance Stroll three times
[08:59.440 -> 09:03.520] in a race where you wanna pit the least amount possible.
[09:03.520 -> 09:07.000] Lance Stroll, please report to track 8 at Frustration Station.
[09:07.000 -> 09:09.000] Your train is getting ready to leave.
[09:09.000 -> 09:15.000] Like, so I am frust- like, both of those deserve a ticket.
[09:15.000 -> 09:17.000] There's just too many other good things to talk about.
[09:17.000 -> 09:20.000] But before we got off Ferrari, I just needed to mention
[09:20.000 -> 09:23.000] that the only way Ferrari decided to think about
[09:23.000 -> 09:25.360] doing two different strategies this week
[09:25.360 -> 09:28.480] was to give Charlotte Clary a three-stop race.
[09:30.640 -> 09:37.760] And it was like when he was in P1 for that like tiny like unbelievable window that no one knew
[09:37.760 -> 09:42.720] like you know except for Charles like I can do this I can I can hold I can I can do it which
[09:42.720 -> 09:45.280] like not that I mean I'll speak for myself
[09:45.280 -> 09:50.860] I knew I knew that wasn't gonna last Max was just like done it done it and then like goes
[09:51.160 -> 09:56.400] But at that timing of you know, oh, we're considering this no, no, no
[09:56.680 -> 09:59.280] It was great. I could not believe it
[10:00.720 -> 10:02.720] Both of their podium spots
[10:03.400 -> 10:06.320] in that moment.
[10:06.320 -> 10:11.360] I'm actually really proud of Charles for finally not just loosening to the team.
[10:11.360 -> 10:20.120] This is technically, we're having this conversation on technically a good weekend for Ferrari.
[10:20.120 -> 10:23.880] Which it was not a good weekend!
[10:23.880 -> 10:25.600] I don't care about the stupid podium
[10:25.600 -> 10:28.740] because no one's competing with Max, so it doesn't matter.
[10:28.740 -> 10:29.960] Like, guess what's going to happen?
[10:29.960 -> 10:31.640] If Ferrari makes a faster car,
[10:31.640 -> 10:33.640] they're going to go back to doing what they did before,
[10:33.640 -> 10:35.880] which was losing out in strategy of hit stops
[10:35.880 -> 10:37.840] and everything intangible.
[10:37.840 -> 10:40.840] And their tires are just going to like be eaten away anyway,
[10:40.840 -> 10:42.280] so it doesn't even matter.
[10:42.280 -> 10:43.640] Oh, this is this weekend.
[10:43.640 -> 10:44.480] Ooh.
[10:48.080 -> 10:54.480] Lewis Hamilton, please report to track eight at frustration station your train is getting ready to leave. I was a frustrated Lewis
[10:54.480 -> 11:06.000] Hamilton fan. It was just a frustrating race for Lewis in so many directions that I just wanted to fast forward to Silverstone.
[11:06.000 -> 11:13.000] I was so, after the sprint shootout, I was like, I'm done, okay, I'm ready.
[11:13.000 -> 11:17.000] And again, not that it really meant, Saturday didn't really mean anything
[11:17.000 -> 11:21.000] in the overall grand scheme of things, but I was just like...
[11:21.000 -> 11:22.000] Sprints never do.
[11:22.000 -> 11:24.000] I just didn't, it was done.
[11:24.000 -> 11:25.800] I didn't feel good about it.
[11:25.800 -> 11:27.400] It made me grumpy for Sunday.
[11:27.400 -> 11:34.000] And then I was just grumpy Sunday watching the race and hearing
[11:34.700 -> 11:40.600] other drivers policing other drivers and hearing Louis continuously
[11:40.600 -> 11:44.400] be frustrated about the car on the radio.
[11:44.400 -> 11:46.560] continuously be frustrated about the car on the radio.
[11:50.680 -> 11:53.400] Now, I will confess that I spent that much time talking about the Ferrari situation because I was avoiding what I knew it was
[11:53.400 -> 11:55.720] next. The next ticket sold here.
[11:55.720 -> 11:59.040] Yeah, you the conversation felt to a natural end. And it was
[11:59.040 -> 12:01.880] like, we were both like, hey, now we have to kind of talk
[12:01.880 -> 12:07.000] about how this was not a good race for Sir Lewis.
[12:07.000 -> 12:10.000] Well, I don't think that's unfair.
[12:10.000 -> 12:12.000] I don't think, I think it was...
[12:12.000 -> 12:20.000] It wasn't a good race for Mercedes, because a bad race for Lewis Hamilton, he still was significantly faster than George Russell the entire time.
[12:20.000 -> 12:21.000] Right.
[12:21.000 -> 12:27.040] Despite the penalties putting him behind, like that was like no no he was
[12:27.040 -> 12:36.960] faster than george all weekend yeah i it was just the car didn't have pace in austria this weekend
[12:36.960 -> 12:48.600] and fair that track's always been a boogie track for mercedes to some degree. I think it's important. All right. Welcome. Hold on. Nicole, where's
[12:48.600 -> 12:55.280] the hope alarm? Get it ready. Welcome to the coping corner. Here we shall cope together.
[12:55.280 -> 13:01.640] All right. It is always a boogie track for Mercedes. I don't think we expected it to
[13:01.640 -> 13:10.960] go that bad, but a track that they're not traditionally good at, with high altitudes that they don't build the car around, like Mercedes, we know
[13:10.960 -> 13:14.460] Mercedes goes well at a track like Barcelona.
[13:14.460 -> 13:18.000] This was not going to be a track like that.
[13:18.000 -> 13:24.480] Also something that happens in Austria every year is the lap is so short, with so many
[13:24.480 -> 13:28.320] predominantly straights, that it really does bring the field
[13:28.320 -> 13:32.720] together. You'll notice like there were headlines everywhere that like the difference between P1 and
[13:32.720 -> 13:39.520] P20 was 8 tenths. Like I don't think we're going to see that anywhere else. All of this means that
[13:39.520 -> 13:45.480] if the team doesn't get the setup right in on a sprint weekend where there's only one hour of practice,
[13:45.480 -> 13:48.280] yeah, it's going to suck all weekend.
[13:48.280 -> 13:49.160] And guess what?
[13:49.160 -> 13:51.460] Mercedes didn't get the setup right
[13:51.460 -> 13:55.280] after one hour of practice, and it sucked.
[13:55.280 -> 13:58.160] It really, really sucked.
[13:58.160 -> 14:02.880] So, in the moment, I was really upset,
[14:02.880 -> 14:04.520] and you and I spoke afterwards,
[14:04.520 -> 14:05.600] and Deering, and throughout the whole thing you and I spoke afterwards and during and throughout the
[14:05.600 -> 14:09.440] whole thing and I think we both just wanted to claw our own eyes out. We were like just let it
[14:09.440 -> 14:16.000] be over. Like let this pain be over. But upon reflection, I don't think we are seeing
[14:19.280 -> 14:24.080] this. We are moving into what is supposed to be and what is likely to be Mercedes' best
[14:25.200 -> 14:31.560] moving into what is supposed to be and what is likely to be Mercedes best race track situation of the entire year. If it goes badly this weekend at a track that
[14:31.560 -> 14:37.680] is like designed to suit their car I will be worried. But right now I'm not
[14:37.680 -> 14:43.760] like panicked I'm just... I want to forget it ever happened.
[14:43.760 -> 14:48.680] I was like waiting for the but like the alarm is coming.
[14:48.680 -> 14:52.400] It's like, these are all very fair and real things about the situation that Mercedes had
[14:52.400 -> 14:53.400] to live through.
[14:53.400 -> 14:57.120] And we had to watch and witness them go through.
[14:57.120 -> 15:02.440] And there was a but coming because it was just, I feel like for a while we've been,
[15:02.440 -> 15:05.560] but Silverstone, but Silverstone will have upgrades with Silverstone.
[15:05.560 -> 15:07.280] There'll be new tires, but Silverstone,
[15:07.280 -> 15:08.240] we like Silverstone.
[15:08.240 -> 15:09.080] Silverstone provides us with-
[15:09.080 -> 15:10.200] Oh, the new tires won't help them.
[15:10.200 -> 15:11.040] We'll talk about that.
[15:11.040 -> 15:12.360] Well, like we, right, right.
[15:12.360 -> 15:16.440] Just lots of up in the air, like-
[15:16.440 -> 15:17.280] Yeah.
[15:17.280 -> 15:20.640] Things can be different than it can be now.
[15:20.640 -> 15:24.680] And obviously Red Bull Ring was not giving us that at all.
[15:26.320 -> 15:28.320] And obviously Red Bull Ring was not giving us that at all. And yeah, Toto's…
[15:28.320 -> 15:30.320] Toto's radio.
[15:30.320 -> 15:35.680] I mean, it was exactly… but you know what?
[15:35.680 -> 15:39.360] Lewis was what we were all feeling, of like, cars, no pace, cars, no pace!
[15:39.360 -> 15:42.000] And Toto was like, you know, just needed to say it.
[15:42.000 -> 15:43.320] I know, I know.
[15:43.320 -> 15:45.760] The car is bad, just drive. And I'm just like...
[15:46.400 -> 15:51.200] Lewis is in the frustration station because that car sucked last weekend. And he needs a better car.
[15:52.240 -> 15:58.640] Please and thank you. Please and thank you. Announce a contract extension so that you can do
[15:58.640 -> 16:08.180] it. Please and thank you. It's weird to... Yeah, I heard that's not coming this week. Yeah. Well, I I wouldn't believe it would be coming after like
[16:08.500 -> 16:11.680] Being trapped in this car this weekend either, you know
[16:12.480 -> 16:16.580] Louis was like I need X number more whatever that is
[16:17.040 -> 16:21.060] He's like if you're gonna give me this car, I need more. Thank you. Yeah, Yuki
[16:21.060 -> 16:27.200] Sonoda, please report to track 8 at Frustration Station. Your train is getting ready to depart.
[16:27.200 -> 16:31.000] So kind of also throwing to another person being trapped
[16:31.000 -> 16:37.440] in, I guess, a car right now.
[16:37.440 -> 16:40.680] There's been so much speculation around Yuki and, you know,
[16:40.680 -> 16:42.640] like, oh, he's going into the Red Bull scene
[16:42.640 -> 16:43.920] and this, that, whatever.
[16:43.920 -> 16:45.720] So I just feel like Yuki
[16:46.120 -> 16:50.040] Probably owns a frustration station most weekends and different things like that
[16:50.400 -> 16:53.040] but particularly going into this weekend when
[16:53.560 -> 16:57.920] he was such a hot topic of conversation across the board in Formula One and
[16:58.240 -> 17:05.680] Checo wasn't really a topic of conversation besides being the topic of conversation is him not being a topic of
[17:05.680 -> 17:09.000] conversation. Yeah, him being like really slow and then it's kind of seemed almost
[17:09.000 -> 17:15.400] immediately that there was like a flip in the universe back on that. Just a hard
[17:15.400 -> 17:21.920] time to be at AlphaTauri. Yeah. I mean if people were looking and expecting Yuki
[17:21.920 -> 17:25.080] Tsunoda like with all of that talk, to perform
[17:25.080 -> 17:29.480] any higher than he did this weekend, Yuki Tsunoda fighting for points this year has
[17:29.480 -> 17:32.760] been a miracle, because that car is so bad.
[17:32.760 -> 17:37.760] So yeah, I think Yuki Tsunoda is definitely at the Frustration Station, and that station
[17:37.760 -> 17:41.840] is looking for a ticket out of Alphatari as fast as possible, whether that's to the Red
[17:41.840 -> 17:43.160] Bull or somewhere else.
[17:43.160 -> 17:48.960] But I don't think there was anything about Yuki's skill this weekend.
[17:48.960 -> 17:51.460] Like, I don't think anything changed.
[17:51.460 -> 17:54.480] Like someone should still give him a seat that's not that Afatari.
[17:54.480 -> 17:58.600] And I don't think Red Bull actually has any other choices, but Yuki for that
[17:58.840 -> 18:02.760] Red Bull upgrade, because they haven't been developing junior drivers.
[18:02.800 -> 18:03.640] So.
[18:04.920 -> 18:05.060] What do you mean? Checo is great. Checo is fine. because they haven't been developing junior drivers, so.
[18:05.900 -> 18:06.720] What do you mean? Checo's great.
[18:06.720 -> 18:07.560] Checo's fine.
[18:07.560 -> 18:11.620] Checo's suddenly here, maybe again.
[18:12.880 -> 18:16.740] Checo finished behind the Ferrari.
[18:16.740 -> 18:20.160] The Ferrari that wanted to do three stops.
[18:21.300 -> 18:22.560] Uh-huh.
[18:22.560 -> 18:28.320] We watched Checo get passed by Nico Hulkenberg in a Haas during the sprint race.
[18:29.120 -> 18:34.240] Sergio Perez, please report to track 8 at frustration station. Your train is almost ready to depart.
[18:35.440 -> 18:39.920] I thought I was still dreaming. Literally watching that. I was like, what is this?
[18:39.920 -> 18:46.880] This is a such a bizarre combination of vehicles and I'm literally seeing a Haas pass.
[18:48.880 -> 18:51.440] What? Yeah, no, really definitely bad.
[18:53.440 -> 18:58.240] Checo benefited from the fact that Mercedes and Aston both dropped the ball this week.
[18:59.040 -> 19:07.380] Neither Mercedes nor Aston got the setup right, were able to perform at this circuit at the level that they should have been, and therefore the gap
[19:07.820 -> 19:11.500] between Checo and Max was filled by less cars this week.
[19:12.060 -> 19:19.600] Nicole Katz, please report to track 8 at Frustration Station. Brianna Klein, please report to track 8 at Frustration Station. F1 fans,
[19:19.600 -> 19:25.840] please report to track 8 at Frustration Station. VoiceOver guy, please report to track 8 at frustration station
[19:25.840 -> 19:30.160] Your train is getting ready to depart. I thought it frustrating the constant
[19:30.880 -> 19:32.280] policing or
[19:32.280 -> 19:38.040] Drivers playing stewards on the radio and maybe it's more just like I'm sure like everyone was starting to do it
[19:38.080 -> 19:42.700] But it's also which ones were particularly selected to be aired on the broadcast
[19:42.700 -> 19:47.880] So then which ones were continuously aired on broadcast really made it seem like that particular
[19:47.880 -> 19:54.440] driver or drivers was doing it more than everyone was and it's just so not I'm
[19:54.440 -> 19:59.160] like okay I don't need this to be your discussion on the radio this is gonna be
[19:59.160 -> 20:02.200] the radio broadcast that I get on the radio it's just like what you're seeing
[20:02.200 -> 20:06.720] it's like fantastic no this isn't what your job is to do.
[20:06.720 -> 20:09.380] That's not what I want to hear you be talking about.
[20:09.380 -> 20:12.860] As F1 fans, I think we've all collectively been calling
[20:12.860 -> 20:15.660] for better stewarding, a better following
[20:15.660 -> 20:17.860] of the regulations during races.
[20:17.860 -> 20:19.340] And we want all of that.
[20:19.340 -> 20:22.820] And then it almost felt like the FIA were like laughing
[20:22.820 -> 20:24.260] at us, like, oh, you want that?
[20:24.260 -> 20:29.040] All right, well, we're going to do exactly what you said and it's's gonna be awful. And it's like, no no no, we wanted you to
[20:29.040 -> 20:37.360] do your job well. But to your point, like it all it was all inconsistent and poorly done, which
[20:37.360 -> 20:51.520] made which is also what made it so frustrating. I really felt in lifetime and upon reflection, so in both stages of my brain, as if the race
[20:51.520 -> 20:57.920] control and stewards got themselves into a pickle that they realized they couldn't back
[20:57.920 -> 20:59.120] out of.
[20:59.120 -> 21:02.600] So Lando is complaining, complaining, complaining over the radio about Lewis.
[21:02.600 -> 21:04.280] It's being aired on the feed.
[21:04.280 -> 21:08.720] And the stewards then looked at it because Lando was complaining. And this,
[21:08.720 -> 21:12.800] by the way, has happened across the races. And it's driven me crazy, but we just got
[21:12.800 -> 21:16.760] it to an extreme degree in this race. And the stewards were like, fine, Lando, you're
[21:16.760 -> 21:20.520] complaining, we'll look at that. Oh, okay, it's true. We'll give Lewis a penalty. So
[21:20.520 -> 21:26.460] then everyone looks at each other and goes, oh, so you'll review anything we complain about
[21:26.460 -> 21:29.320] unless it comes out of Lewis Hamilton's mouth.
[21:29.320 -> 21:30.440] Okay, very cool.
[21:30.440 -> 21:33.280] So then everyone starts to complain
[21:33.280 -> 21:37.760] and the stewards go, oh crap, we created this for ourselves.
[21:37.760 -> 21:40.740] And that's why if you feel like you're watching these races
[21:40.740 -> 21:42.480] and over the last year-ish,
[21:42.480 -> 21:46.680] there's been an uptick of drivers on the radio being
[21:46.680 -> 21:51.000] like, oh wow that that rear wing looks really dangerous someone should look at
[21:51.000 -> 21:54.520] that. It's because the stewards have put themselves in the situation where they
[21:54.520 -> 21:59.120] only review things if someone complains. And all that does is create more
[21:59.120 -> 22:03.520] complaining and it creates the feeling of inconsistency that is actually
[22:03.520 -> 22:05.760] happening because they're
[22:05.760 -> 22:10.800] only reviewing what's being complained. So of course when you get to the end of the race
[22:10.800 -> 22:15.680] and Aston Martin looks around and they go, huh, everyone went off track limits, and guess what
[22:15.680 -> 22:28.120] we could do? If we submit a thing, then they have to review that. And then we get the notice that the stewards have to review 1,200 instances of track limits
[22:28.120 -> 22:34.000] because Aston complained in order to figure out what the race actually was.
[22:34.000 -> 22:37.760] And that all started because they went, okay, Lando, you're complaining a lot.
[22:37.760 -> 22:40.200] We'll go give Lewis Hamilton a penalty for you.
[22:40.200 -> 22:43.560] I want to watch athletes get every advantage they can get.
[22:43.560 -> 22:46.320] That is part of their job description and their MO.
[22:46.320 -> 22:49.100] I hate watching refs be incompetent,
[22:49.100 -> 22:51.840] where the best way to get that edge
[22:51.840 -> 22:53.680] is by whining and complaining.
[22:53.680 -> 22:56.400] And it's just like, I'm going, like, just,
[22:56.400 -> 22:59.800] it makes me want to chuck my computer across the room
[22:59.800 -> 23:01.560] and it makes me dislike all of them.
[23:01.560 -> 23:03.080] I'm like, just go away.
[23:03.080 -> 23:04.360] I don't want to watch it.
[23:05.760 -> 23:08.800] Yeah, no, it literally creates like a tattletale parade.
[23:08.800 -> 23:12.360] Like that's literally, and no one likes a tattletale.
[23:12.360 -> 23:13.840] Like that's literally what it is.
[23:13.840 -> 23:16.760] And you're so right that it's, they're only,
[23:16.760 -> 23:18.680] they just started to only review
[23:18.680 -> 23:20.680] what everyone was complaining about
[23:20.680 -> 23:23.300] because then it was like on TV
[23:23.300 -> 23:28.460] and then it was people were talking about it online or that's just how it was getting their attention and different things
[23:28.460 -> 23:33.520] like that. But it just then created that was the only discourse that we were hearing and
[23:33.520 -> 23:39.280] I was so sick and tired of it by the end. Like across the board, everyone was talking
[23:39.280 -> 23:43.960] about it down like Max was complaining about it. I mean, not that he's unfamiliar with
[23:43.960 -> 23:44.960] it.
[23:44.960 -> 23:46.080] Not that he needed to, but he still was.
[23:46.080 -> 23:46.920] Right?
[23:46.920 -> 23:48.640] Well, and also that it's not like the first time
[23:48.640 -> 23:53.000] he's been discussing track limits on the radio, whatever.
[23:53.000 -> 23:54.280] Yeah, I was frustrated.
[23:54.280 -> 23:55.480] It was really annoying.
[23:55.480 -> 23:58.680] I'm hoping that there's just a different way
[23:58.680 -> 24:01.160] to go about and handle all of this
[24:01.160 -> 24:03.040] because it really was ruining
[24:03.040 -> 24:05.920] the race watching experience.
[24:07.840 -> 24:14.640] Welcome to an Into the Wild segment. So essentially, like, essentially referees in other
[24:14.640 -> 24:19.920] sports wear black and white, so they're called the Zebras. The FIA are the Zebras of F1 because
[24:19.920 -> 24:27.340] they're the referees. So we are into the wild. We also think that most of their decisions are wild and inconsistent and feel like we're in a jungle. Woo! Here we are.
[24:27.340 -> 24:36.120] So since we have left the frustration station and my brain, you know, went on a
[24:36.120 -> 24:49.360] three-mile hike and really tried to expel some energy and frustration myself. Then I had to go to, all right, we have to fix this problem.
[24:50.160 -> 24:58.160] And I have brought her into the wild segment today, various solutions and research done about
[24:58.160 -> 25:05.440] how can we fix this problem. Now we will circle back to the question I'm about to ask at the end of this, after we
[25:05.440 -> 25:07.040] run through all the questions.
[25:07.040 -> 25:13.200] But I do think a fundamental flaw in having this conversation is, does the FIA actually
[25:13.200 -> 25:16.480] care to fix their stewarding in this area?
[25:16.480 -> 25:19.600] Do they care to actually get better at this?
[25:19.600 -> 25:25.600] I don't know the answer to that, but we are going to go into this conversation assuming they do,
[25:26.320 -> 25:34.240] and these are providing options in that direction, because as fans I would like this to get better,
[25:34.240 -> 25:40.000] and I would like to believe they would want to get better. A couple of other basis to these
[25:42.920 -> 25:51.440] track limit solutions. Safety, if there is a solution but it is fundamentally unsafe, it's not going to be
[25:51.440 -> 25:54.680] a solution we like or want to talk about here.
[25:54.680 -> 25:58.740] Also, I don't think DNFs are fun.
[25:58.740 -> 26:06.320] So if it's unsafe and or just creates a massive uptick in DNFs, you'll probably hear us not like it so much.
[26:06.320 -> 26:11.520] Another foundation is we want the stewards to apply the rules correctly and consistently
[26:11.520 -> 26:17.920] during F1 races. We are never in favor of the, well, drivers should just do better. No, no, no.
[26:17.920 -> 26:22.240] Drivers are going to take every advantage they want. I want my refs to do things well and to
[26:22.240 -> 26:26.560] police them correctly. So again, if you're thinking that, that's your argument.
[26:26.560 -> 26:28.560] This isn't going to be the discussion or place for you.
[26:29.280 -> 26:33.760] And the third one is that drivers and teams will take advantage of everything.
[26:33.760 -> 26:36.960] We are not in the gentleman era of the 60s,
[26:36.960 -> 26:41.360] as if we're pretending like drivers and teams didn't cheat all the time then too.
[26:41.360 -> 26:44.800] The reason we have refs is to do this.
[26:44.800 -> 26:46.880] So I don't know why we put it on anyone
[26:46.880 -> 26:53.280] other than the refs and the FIA to correctly steward and control their races. So fundamental
[26:53.280 -> 26:57.840] basis here. If you still want you can go scream in the comments. It helps the algorithm. Thank you.
[26:57.840 -> 27:06.640] Okay so to recap here. I did a bunch of foundational research on what is the current situation.
[27:06.640 -> 27:11.080] What is actually going on in the FIA and in the race control?
[27:11.080 -> 27:16.520] What are the stewards doing during a race to the extent that they have told us what
[27:16.520 -> 27:18.160] they're doing?
[27:18.160 -> 27:26.960] So they have a race control room with tons of photo and video feeds that they are reviewing manually for
[27:26.960 -> 27:33.360] this. So someone needs to see something in those photo video feeds, then they will take
[27:33.360 -> 27:38.000] that and give that to someone and they will review and with their eyeballs and the photo
[27:38.000 -> 27:48.600] video that they have, determine was that track limits. I think a big issue with this is how inaccurate and subjective
[27:48.600 -> 27:53.680] it can be. But you're always going to have an element of that in refereeing a sport.
[27:53.680 -> 27:57.640] Like, it's, there's human nature to this. And that's okay. There's not going to be a
[27:57.640 -> 28:08.720] perfect computer that can do this with the tech that we have ether. But I think the bigger issue is the rate and speed at which they can do what I just said.
[28:08.720 -> 28:19.520] So you need a lot of people to be able to review nearly 1,500 laps at 10 quarters for an entire race.
[28:19.520 -> 28:25.000] So there's a speed issue here.
[28:25.000 -> 28:31.000] That is also not even including all the other things they need to watch for.
[28:31.000 -> 28:37.000] So, you know, pit lane infringements, like racing incidents, you know, you need to give
[28:37.000 -> 28:40.000] someone the meatball flag, which we haven't really seen this season.
[28:40.000 -> 28:44.500] Like, there are so many other things that they need to look for that we're talking about
[28:44.500 -> 28:45.120] like hundreds of thousands of data points that need to look for that we're talking about hundreds
[28:45.120 -> 28:50.200] of thousands of data points that need to be reviewed by these people that is only coming
[28:50.200 -> 28:53.800] in via photo video right now.
[28:53.800 -> 29:08.280] Now post-2021, when the FIA did their review of their practices, They said that they were implementing a video assistant referee, referred
[29:08.280 -> 29:14.860] to as VAR. This is something that I think a lot of soccer fans will know and hear more
[29:14.860 -> 29:32.280] than like American fans. So like, you know, European football fans know a lot about VAR. Now, a video assistant referee, what it essentially is, is computer algorithms assisting the referee.
[29:32.280 -> 29:38.600] That is not what F1 said they were going to or did implement.
[29:38.600 -> 29:45.000] What F1 is calling their VAR is essentially a remote operations center.
[29:45.600 -> 29:48.040] And I'm gonna read a quote here
[29:48.040 -> 29:51.760] from the Autosport announcement from March of 2022
[29:51.760 -> 29:55.160] that was announcing that the FIA was gonna do this.
[29:57.720 -> 30:00.400] While similar in principle to the VAR in football,
[30:00.400 -> 30:03.020] the ROC, which is the remote operations center,
[30:03.020 -> 30:04.960] will act as a supporting resource
[30:04.960 -> 30:07.200] for the race direction team with data comparable
[30:07.200 -> 30:12.720] to that of more than 10 simultaneous football matches, including over 140 video and audio
[30:12.720 -> 30:13.720] sources.
[30:13.720 -> 30:20.020] It goes on to say that this remote operation center, though, has no stewarding or race
[30:20.020 -> 30:22.360] control power.
[30:22.360 -> 30:27.120] So it was incredibly unclear to me at the time and now upon revisiting this,
[30:27.120 -> 30:34.240] what the point of having them there is if they can't help or like even signal to the race control
[30:34.240 -> 30:41.280] team like, hey, like if the remote operations center was going through like, hey, you're all
[30:41.280 -> 30:44.640] just going to look at turn 10 and then they were sending those to the stewards, that would make a
[30:44.640 -> 30:45.800] lot of sense to me.
[30:45.800 -> 30:48.160] But I don't think that's what's happening here.
[30:48.160 -> 30:50.840] And I'm a little unclear what they're actually doing.
[30:50.840 -> 30:57.400] So then I've been trying to find people following up on what is happening.
[30:57.400 -> 31:01.760] The limited information about this remote operations center is unreal.
[31:01.760 -> 31:06.240] There were about 12 articles in the history made about this that I could find from
[31:06.240 -> 31:12.240] reputable journalists. And this is over a year and a half of this thing existing, and I could find
[31:12.240 -> 31:18.240] 12 articles. So in November of last year, which was right after the Japanese Grand Prix,
[31:19.280 -> 31:26.520] the race wrote an article where they referenced F1's VAR and really was just talking about how
[31:27.020 -> 31:32.380] last year's stewarding and penalty and all of it was like worse than they could even remember
[31:32.640 -> 31:37.200] So actually it was the race commenting that they don't know what the VAR is doing or how it's helping
[31:38.360 -> 31:39.840] The
[31:39.840 -> 31:43.000] the most recent mention of VAR in F1
[31:43.400 -> 31:50.000] was after a piece of the fly in Kevin Magnuson car went and injured the fan.
[31:50.000 -> 32:00.000] The FIA was quoted as saying they'll use the footage that their VAR has to review the accident and improve safety in the future.
[32:02.000 -> 32:07.000] Which to me is not VAR, that's just having footage.
[32:07.000 -> 32:14.760] Yeah, now I was like, I don't understand what, I, from what I was understanding the VAR does,
[32:14.760 -> 32:19.240] doesn't have that, but, right, I don't, I'm confused.
[32:19.240 -> 32:23.840] So, VAR, Video Assistant Referee, doesn't exist in F1.
[32:23.840 -> 32:28.320] At least based on the documentation that is accessible and out there.
[32:28.320 -> 32:34.720] Now, I would implore some journalists to stick their head in there and see what they...
[32:34.720 -> 32:37.120] Like, I'm not a journalist, I can't do that.
[32:37.120 -> 32:40.960] But, you know, those of you who are there, could someone give us an update on what this
[32:40.960 -> 32:44.000] remote operation center is actually doing?
[32:44.000 -> 32:45.120] Because the only update we've
[32:45.120 -> 32:51.200] gotten is that they're helping after races for the FIA to improve safety. Which I'm not saying
[32:51.200 -> 32:58.640] isn't needed. That is totally needed. But I wanted to give a foundation for the current situation
[32:58.640 -> 33:04.880] of what is going on that is publicly accessible in F1's race stewarding. Before we get into
[33:04.040 -> 33:08.760] on that is publicly accessible in F1's race stewarding. Before we get into how the F do we fix this,
[33:08.760 -> 33:11.920] I have come to the conclusion that there are three options
[33:11.920 -> 33:13.480] based on other sports.
[33:14.360 -> 33:17.800] One, we create a system with enough stewards
[33:17.800 -> 33:20.520] that allows them to manually review track limits
[33:20.520 -> 33:22.520] in a timely and consistent manner
[33:22.520 -> 33:25.160] via the photo video way they're doing now. I think the big, like they're doing this in a timely and consistent manner via the photo video way they're doing now.
[33:25.160 -> 33:30.000] I think the big, like, they're doing this in a way that's an incredible lift with not
[33:30.000 -> 33:31.840] enough people to do it.
[33:31.840 -> 33:35.800] And I think we, you and I criticize the FIA all the time, but we're really criticizing
[33:35.800 -> 33:36.800] high leadership.
[33:36.800 -> 33:41.360] I think the stewards in race control are doing the best they can, but they seem severely
[33:41.360 -> 33:47.280] understaffed and under-tooled to do their job well. Which is why it seems like the race control after the race was like,
[33:47.280 -> 33:51.040] yeah, we have this giant stack of things we want to go through, can we please?
[33:51.680 -> 33:54.560] And thankfully, Aston Martin was like, can you please?
[33:54.560 -> 33:56.320] And the FIA was like, damn, fine, okay.
[33:56.320 -> 34:05.000] Yeah, but I'm just imagining the team of the size of the team that they would need
[34:05.160 -> 34:07.360] in order to review all of those things.
[34:07.360 -> 34:11.580] But yeah, the 1200 instances to review statement
[34:11.580 -> 34:14.100] definitely had like the energy of like a manager
[34:14.100 -> 34:15.800] standing up for its people of like,
[34:15.800 -> 34:18.300] we are doing the best we can.
[34:18.300 -> 34:22.600] This is what we have to do, so you leave us alone.
[34:22.600 -> 34:23.920] I said there's three options
[34:23.920 -> 34:25.280] and option one was improve the current
[34:25.280 -> 34:29.920] situation. I wouldn't recommend only that and the reality is I think a combination of all three of
[34:29.920 -> 34:38.800] these options might work. I feel like in almost every work scenario entirely the answer of more
[34:38.800 -> 34:46.720] manpower or more like team members like usually can really help. So I think that's fair to say across the board.
[34:46.720 -> 34:47.720] To start, yeah.
[34:47.720 -> 34:50.120] Give the team more resources.
[34:50.120 -> 34:52.480] Normally, that's a good answer to start with.
[34:52.480 -> 34:57.640] The second option I see a lot of people really talking about as like this quick, easy fix.
[34:57.640 -> 35:02.960] And it's provide a physical barrier that makes track limits physically impossible or incredibly
[35:02.960 -> 35:05.480] punitive for the driver or team.
[35:05.480 -> 35:07.600] And you'll hear people talk about sausage curves,
[35:07.600 -> 35:10.680] gravel traps, grass, and or a wall.
[35:10.680 -> 35:11.760] So I'm gonna quickly run through
[35:11.760 -> 35:14.680] why I hate all four of these options.
[35:14.680 -> 35:16.720] Wall, we have circuits with walls,
[35:16.720 -> 35:19.040] and sometimes it's fun to not have circuits
[35:19.040 -> 35:20.440] with walls that are street tracks.
[35:20.440 -> 35:22.800] So it would really suck if F1 only went
[35:22.800 -> 35:24.740] to circuits with walls.
[35:25.000 -> 35:27.280] Two, sausage curves.
[35:27.280 -> 35:28.840] They launch cars.
[35:28.840 -> 35:30.380] They are incredibly unsafe.
[35:30.380 -> 35:34.760] We should just never see a sausage curve ever on any circuit ever.
[35:34.760 -> 35:36.840] Three, gravel traps.
[35:36.840 -> 35:44.680] Gravel traps are not as unsafe as sausage curves, but they create situations where cars
[35:44.680 -> 35:45.860] flip.
[35:45.860 -> 35:50.720] Like Joe Bong Yu's car went flying and then was flipping like that, not exclusively because
[35:50.720 -> 35:54.460] of all these external factors, it was also partially because of the gravel.
[35:54.460 -> 35:57.560] And that's what gravel does, it creates flip opportunities.
[35:57.560 -> 36:00.660] So does grass, which was the fourth option.
[36:00.660 -> 36:11.000] Gravel traps also make it more likely that a driver DNFs and it wrecks cars. And in a cost cap era, the last thing I want to see is teams having to divert funds to fix cars
[36:11.000 -> 36:14.000] away from upgrades to catch up to the teams in the front.
[36:14.000 -> 36:18.400] I also just don't think DNFs are fun when cars get stuck in gravel traps.
[36:18.400 -> 36:21.000] That doesn't improve a situation for me.
[36:21.000 -> 36:24.600] So while, yes, technically all four of these things would just mean like,
[36:24.600 -> 36:29.400] oh, well, no one's gonna do track limits, but they're unsafe and they're not fun. And I
[36:29.400 -> 36:34.480] think we could just, again, it all goes back to can the FIA just do their job correctly?
[36:34.480 -> 36:39.720] We don't need to fix things for the FIA. They just need to do their job better. So that
[36:39.720 -> 36:45.680] leads me to some kind of technology assist. We're always going to have people refereeing. They're
[36:45.680 -> 36:50.560] probably just going to need to hire more stewards and people in race control. But that doesn't
[36:50.560 -> 36:55.280] mean there can't be a technology assist. And this was the real fun I had in the research.
[36:55.280 -> 37:01.640] So I started looking at what other race series did for starters. And MotoGP actually implemented
[37:01.640 -> 37:05.880] really cool tech. We're at key corners of the circuits they go to.
[37:05.880 -> 37:08.260] They include pressure tubes.
[37:08.260 -> 37:11.200] So if you go off track,
[37:11.200 -> 37:14.320] you will put pressure on this tube later on the track,
[37:14.320 -> 37:16.880] and then it will just get pinged to race control.
[37:16.880 -> 37:18.720] Then race control has a list of things
[37:18.720 -> 37:19.880] where things got pinged,
[37:19.880 -> 37:21.860] and they can review each instance.
[37:21.860 -> 37:24.160] And you hear the FIA talk about
[37:24.160 -> 37:25.720] how they actually implement that, and they have leniency that. And you hear the FIA talk about how they actually implement that,
[37:25.720 -> 37:27.960] and they have leniency that's specifically
[37:27.960 -> 37:29.680] communicated to the drivers.
[37:29.680 -> 37:32.000] So, things like turn one.
[37:32.000 -> 37:34.320] Like if turn one at the start of the race,
[37:34.320 -> 37:38.200] for lap one, they say as long as you don't create
[37:38.200 -> 37:39.840] a lasting advantage for yourself,
[37:39.840 -> 37:43.480] you're not gonna get tipped, like, for track limits there.
[37:43.480 -> 37:44.640] They're not gonna give you a penalty
[37:44.640 -> 37:46.040] because, you know, John Smith pushed off, you know, Sally Sue. going to get ticked for track limits. They're not going to give you a penalty because John
[37:46.040 -> 37:53.440] Smith pushed off Sally Sue. So Sally Sue's not going to get a track limits penalty because
[37:53.440 -> 37:58.840] John Smith was a dick. So they still review them all manually, but they don't have to
[37:58.840 -> 38:04.760] be looking for them and identify the opportunities themselves because the motorcycle with the
[38:04.760 -> 38:07.440] person on it weighs enough that it triggers the pressure.
[38:07.440 -> 38:13.120] Like a notification or it's like when you go through a red light camera or something like
[38:13.120 -> 38:18.560] that. This just seems like such an easy automatic answer. I'm like, how, what, okay, done, next,
[38:18.560 -> 38:30.080] great, solve this solution. Yeah, now I will point out that if we put this in f1 it is not the cheapest solution
[38:30.080 -> 38:37.040] and they would need to create a way to figure out where to put it to uh because you know f1 cars do
[38:37.040 -> 38:49.500] have uh four tires instead of two so we're we're talking about uh a width here. And we don't just want it to ping every time, like, two tires are put off track,
[38:49.500 -> 38:51.200] because that's not track limits in F1.
[38:51.200 -> 38:55.500] So it is a little complicated. There would need to be a very specific F1 solution here.
[38:55.500 -> 39:01.000] Like a sensor on, like, both tires would need to, like, cross over, like, the thing and the...
[39:01.000 -> 39:05.200] Yeah, okay, now it's getting complicated in my brain and pass the technology that I
[39:05.200 -> 39:11.520] understand. Not that I, I mean pressure tubes I understand, but like pressure ah touches pass got
[39:11.520 -> 39:17.840] it got it. But the technology exists and there are so many really smart people who could take that
[39:17.840 -> 39:22.160] technology and be like here's how we're going to implement it in FY. Then I started looking at what
[39:22.160 -> 39:26.720] other sports do. I will point, and there's just cool tech in
[39:26.720 -> 39:31.200] this area all around refereeing. And it made me really frustrated that the quote-unquote pinnacle
[39:31.200 -> 39:37.120] of motorsports is so behind in this area, because every single sport I looked into is using some of
[39:37.120 -> 39:42.480] the revolutionary tech I'm going to get into here. So, and by the way, when I say revolutionary,
[39:42.480 -> 39:45.320] I mean things that have been implemented in other sports for 30 years.
[39:45.880 -> 39:46.840] Just so we're clear.
[39:48.260 -> 39:52.180] In cricket, they have a thing called a snick-o-meter,
[39:52.740 -> 39:59.020] which uses sound waves to detect whether a ball went off the side of their bat.
[39:59.760 -> 40:09.360] And so, essentially, all the footy, the photo video gets put into this put into this snick-o-meter, and they can
[40:09.360 -> 40:15.020] look at the waveforms, and they know what it looks like, they know what the sound looks
[40:15.020 -> 40:19.000] like when it hits a bat versus the ball hitting something else.
[40:19.000 -> 40:20.680] That's crazy.
[40:20.680 -> 40:22.840] Isn't that a great solution?
[40:22.840 -> 40:28.440] Yes. Now, again, I don't know one to one application for F1.
[40:28.440 -> 40:33.520] You would probably create a runoff area where if it's run over it creates a different sound.
[40:33.520 -> 40:34.520] So it's possible.
[40:34.520 -> 40:37.520] Technology exists to do something with sound.
[40:37.520 -> 40:42.280] This also led me into a whole area about Hawkeye innovations.
[40:42.280 -> 40:45.600] So if you've ever watched tennis and there's a challenge
[40:45.600 -> 40:49.720] and then they review where the ball hit and they have this really cool tech
[40:49.720 -> 40:54.160] where it visualizes it for you that's Hawkeye Innovation. So what it
[40:54.160 -> 40:58.880] essentially that tech is is that they have stationary cameras set up at every
[40:58.880 -> 41:08.160] single angle and then this algorithm can input all that data and calculate to the measurement of three millimeters.
[41:09.080 -> 41:13.360] 3.6 millimeters is the gray area for this,
[41:13.360 -> 41:15.600] the direction of where the ball would have hit,
[41:15.600 -> 41:19.160] and then it visualizes that for not only the referees,
[41:19.160 -> 41:21.560] but us viewing on TV.
[41:21.560 -> 41:23.560] And do you know what's like,
[41:23.560 -> 41:26.560] if it is accurate enough to 3.6 millimeters,
[41:26.560 -> 41:32.720] I really think that's enough accuracy to determine if a giant F1 car went off track. Physics
[41:32.720 -> 41:39.720] is crazy. So how that would need to be done in F1 is they would need to set up a ton of
[41:39.720 -> 41:45.880] stationary cameras around whatever corner they want to look at, and then it would trigger
[41:45.880 -> 41:50.120] an alert like, hey, we think this is one, and the steward would have the data and be
[41:50.120 -> 41:53.900] like, yes, no, yes, no, yes, no.
[41:53.900 -> 42:01.320] So there is a cost of them having to set up the cameras everywhere they go, but we're
[42:01.320 -> 42:03.560] not trying to save the FIA money here, okay?
[42:03.560 -> 42:09.600] Yeah, that's not the goal here. This is the solution. This isn't, you know, budget and class.
[42:09.600 -> 42:15.600] This is the same technology that they use in hockey and in soccer for goal line technology
[42:15.600 -> 42:20.100] to determine whether or not the puck or the ball actually went into the net.
[42:20.100 -> 42:26.240] Because, you know, sometimes a hockey puck gets sent in the net and just because of physics it ricochets out like you don't know the
[42:26.240 -> 42:30.880] Details in soccer did it actually go in the way it was supposed to
[42:31.600 -> 42:37.760] This gold line technology is Hawkeye innovations. The NFL also has implemented implemented this
[42:37.800 -> 42:43.080] So what the NFL uses Hawkeye innovations for is that when the refs have to review something it
[42:43.280 -> 42:46.980] Automatically syncs up every single video camera feed.
[42:46.980 -> 42:49.880] So if you ever see like, oh, was that a catch or not?
[42:49.880 -> 42:50.880] Or was that a touchdown or not?
[42:50.880 -> 42:54.940] And they're going to all these different angles, the ref actually gets them all synced up together
[42:54.940 -> 42:58.480] so they can correlate things perfectly.
[42:58.480 -> 43:01.360] Again, technology assist.
[43:01.360 -> 43:02.360] That's what we're talking about.
[43:02.360 -> 43:06.240] Like make the jobs of the stewards easier. Another really
[43:06.240 -> 43:11.760] cool area is that NASCAR uses Hawkeye innovations, so a racing series. One of the big things
[43:11.760 -> 43:16.280] they use this for is pit lane monitoring. But what I thought was so cool about their
[43:16.280 -> 43:28.480] use of Hawkeye innovations is that they're using machine learning to teach these algorithms what a mistake is. So Hawkeye's software just pings the stewards,
[43:28.480 -> 43:31.280] hey, I think there was an infraction here.
[43:31.280 -> 43:34.840] So in NASCAR, I've learned that in a pit stop,
[43:34.840 -> 43:37.360] there's a certain point where people have to be
[43:37.360 -> 43:40.720] behind the wall, and then they can come out from the wall
[43:40.720 -> 43:42.240] and perform the pit stop.
[43:42.240 -> 43:44.220] So they have these cameras set up
[43:44.220 -> 43:45.280] and this machine learning
[43:45.280 -> 43:52.880] algorithm that says, oh, I think this person here that's surrounded in a box came out too soon. And
[43:52.880 -> 43:58.160] then a steward just has to review what the machine told it was triggered were penalties.
[43:59.280 -> 44:06.320] Lastly, Formula E has also tested out Hawkeye innovations for track limits specifically.
[44:06.320 -> 44:10.840] I think it had that weekend was a rough weekend for that circuit.
[44:10.840 -> 44:14.640] They tried it out when they went to a brand new circuit in India.
[44:14.640 -> 44:18.000] It doesn't seem like anyone had complaints about the track limits issue.
[44:18.000 -> 44:19.240] They just didn't like the circuit.
[44:19.240 -> 44:22.440] So all the coverage was about that.
[44:22.440 -> 44:25.280] But this leads me to the solution I think they actually need to do.
[44:26.880 -> 44:34.160] And it is lasers. And this was brought to my attention by a fantastic, actually LinkedIn
[44:34.160 -> 44:39.280] blog written by Lucas Degrassi, who's a current Formula E driver. He has a lot of experience across
[44:39.280 -> 44:46.320] multiple different racing series. And his article about this brought my attention to, wow, oh my gosh,
[44:46.320 -> 44:50.720] this is the solution. It is the cheapest solution, it is the easiest solution, it combines everything
[44:50.720 -> 44:51.720] we're talking about.
[44:51.720 -> 44:53.620] Laser sound pool too.
[44:53.620 -> 44:57.480] If you are only listening, I would recommend going over to YouTube right now because there's
[44:57.480 -> 45:01.560] going to be a visual example of what we are watching here, or what we're talking about
[45:01.560 -> 45:06.480] here. But I will do my best to explain it verbally anyway.
[45:07.840 -> 45:14.080] All right, what we are looking at is a graphic with the track and a white line that is the track
[45:14.080 -> 45:18.800] limits for the white line, and we have an F1 car. It does have a little red dot in the middle,
[45:18.800 -> 45:26.520] and this is our sensor. So the proposal is there are lasers that can pick up difference in paint.
[45:26.520 -> 45:31.280] So, this is a car, you have a laser right in the center of it.
[45:31.280 -> 45:35.440] It's going down the track, it's doing its business.
[45:35.440 -> 45:40.320] The yellow line here, it represents the full width of an F1 car in regulations, and then
[45:40.320 -> 45:44.240] you have the half width of an F1 car in regulations with this red line.
[45:44.240 -> 45:48.720] Now these things are all standard. We can fit a laser to the center of an F1 car
[45:48.720 -> 45:52.480] and then we know how wide it's allowed to be in the regulations.
[45:54.160 -> 46:08.160] So what you can do is after the white line you can measure out like the width of an f1 car and the half width of an f1 car and then you can
[46:08.160 -> 46:20.160] paint a different colored line down the distance of half of an f1 car. Now I'm
[46:20.160 -> 46:24.440] using half of an f1 car here for example obviously you just need the sensor to
[46:24.440 -> 46:25.600] line up. I put a sensor in the center of a car therefore I'm using half of an F1 car here for example. Obviously you just need the sensor to line up.
[46:25.600 -> 46:30.720] I put a sensor in the center of a car therefore I'm putting the line halfway through an F1 car.
[46:30.720 -> 46:36.960] You can put the sensor anywhere. Right. So and the example we're visually looking at is a straight
[46:36.960 -> 46:42.240] line. It is very unlikely that this would be done in a straight line fashion. But the con... I just
[46:42.240 -> 46:53.360] wanted to make it visually easy to understand. But the concept is imagine the Austrian track, you have turn 10, and then at the same distance and radius
[46:53.360 -> 46:58.160] around turn 10, you just draw a line in the color that the sensor is programmed to pick
[46:58.160 -> 47:05.200] up at the correct distance. So then let's say an F1 car is driving down the road, we have this like,
[47:05.200 -> 47:08.720] secondary, we have the track limits line, but then we have the detection line,
[47:09.600 -> 47:16.880] and oh no, the car went over for track limits! But since it went over, it was detected. And then,
[47:17.680 -> 47:26.880] and then all the stewards get a ping of, Lewis Hamilton went off at turn 10 because the sensor picked it up and then they're able
[47:26.880 -> 47:31.920] to pull it up and confirm it because we want human review of these things. These aren't
[47:31.920 -> 47:37.000] all like computer and technology is only good as the human wielding it. So that way they're
[47:37.000 -> 47:40.160] not having to sit there staring at a camera going did they go off did they go off it's
[47:40.160 -> 47:45.200] like no the sensor triggered it they went off. It is perfectly measured, great.
[47:45.200 -> 47:50.400] And that, that is the magical solution to track limits. And you know how much cheaper that is
[47:50.400 -> 47:56.720] versus setting up like six cameras at every corner to do this accurately? You could paint lines.
[47:57.600 -> 48:03.040] There you go. That is my solution to track limits. Thank you, Lucas Degrassi. That was an incredible
[48:03.040 -> 48:05.200] article. I will link it in the
[48:05.200 -> 48:11.600] descriptions of everything because you should read his discussion of this. It needs to happen.
[48:11.600 -> 48:16.000] So I've been yammering about track limits for too long, but I hope everyone learned something cool
[48:16.640 -> 48:28.320] and mostly I hope everyone understands that this is a solvable solution. And if the FIA say otherwise, again, I will scream.
[48:28.320 -> 48:32.040] Because even post-race, they've come out and they've said,
[48:32.040 -> 48:34.320] oh, well, we told that they need Red Bull Ring,
[48:34.320 -> 48:35.680] they need to put a gravel track there.
[48:35.680 -> 48:37.840] The Red Bull Ring didn't want to put a gravel track there.
[48:37.840 -> 48:39.840] It's like, but yeah, gravel's not the solution.
[48:39.840 -> 48:41.960] And good job, FIA, trying to make it seem like
[48:41.960 -> 48:43.600] it's not your fault.
[48:47.600 -> 48:49.960] I threw way too much information at you. What are you thinking?
[48:49.960 -> 48:51.600] I'm sorry.
[48:51.600 -> 48:56.960] No, I am honestly was so convinced like after hearing pressure tube, I was like, yeah, of
[48:56.960 -> 49:00.240] course this has to be it because it just makes so much sense.
[49:00.240 -> 49:06.400] Obviously this, the paint and sensors, and then you can also say that the solution is lasers
[49:06.480 -> 49:11.520] Which is not only more affordable, but sounds really cool. So
[49:12.560 -> 49:17.540] You there you go. You just outlaid several very possible solutions so that we just don't have
[49:18.200 -> 49:19.760] this I
[49:19.760 -> 49:26.840] mean it will continue like you said, but as but as much of a frustrating aspect of the Grand
[49:26.840 -> 49:31.720] Prix weekend for track limits as it was this past weekend.
[49:31.720 -> 49:33.040] So I'm all for it.
[49:33.040 -> 49:35.000] Let's bring some lasers to Epoine.
[49:35.000 -> 49:38.280] It's my favorite race of the year.
[49:38.280 -> 49:41.000] Silverstone week!
[49:41.000 -> 49:43.120] Oh my gosh, I'm so, so, so excited.
[49:43.120 -> 49:45.320] I love Silverstone too.
[49:45.320 -> 49:51.440] It's such a good track. It's so fun. And I'm putting on record ahead of time that even
[49:51.440 -> 49:56.840] when Max wins this Grand Prix by a million seconds, I'm still like, I love Silverstone
[49:56.840 -> 50:03.720] Week. It's just, it's one of those really special tracks. That's always a good time.
[50:03.720 -> 50:06.600] Yeah, everyone loves Silverstone and I agree.
[50:06.600 -> 50:11.400] It's not like we're going in with any sort of extra magical hope as fun as that would
[50:11.400 -> 50:14.540] be, but it's fun to watch.
[50:14.540 -> 50:16.480] Some guaranteed good racing, I feel.
[50:16.480 -> 50:19.680] All right, do you want the Hopium?
[50:19.680 -> 50:21.800] Oh, just give it to me.
[50:21.800 -> 50:29.880] Give me the hopium. This track is incredibly similar to Spain.
[50:29.880 -> 50:33.000] The Pirelli graphic visualizes this great.
[50:33.000 -> 50:35.320] There is so much tire stress.
[50:35.320 -> 50:39.820] They are bringing a new compound of tires that Aston Martin and Ferrari are very excited
[50:39.820 -> 50:42.880] about because it should help their problems a little bit.
[50:42.880 -> 50:45.600] But Mercedes is so great on its tires.
[50:51.440 -> 50:53.680] This is a race designed to be good for that Mercedes car and how they design their cars.
[50:58.000 -> 51:04.000] If you're looking for a good comparable of performance, if you're like, oh, I want to see how XYZ team might perform here, Barcelona. Go look at Barcelona. I will say it's raining on
[51:04.000 -> 51:09.600] Saturday, which makes me upset for all the reasons we say every week which is like why do we need
[51:09.600 -> 51:19.300] another wet quali? Global warming really needs to stop and go away. But yeah
[51:19.300 -> 51:23.940] Pirelli graphic this week is basically just says rough on tires which is why
[51:23.940 -> 51:27.800] they're bringing their hardest compounds and why we're excited for Mercedes because if it's
[51:27.800 -> 51:32.740] rough on tires it's traditionally good for Mercedes. Yeah it's gonna be some
[51:32.740 -> 51:38.740] great management we'll be able to see and gosh I need a more positive Mercedes
[51:38.740 -> 51:47.960] weekend than this past weekend. Oh my gosh. It's Hamilton week, please be a good week.
[51:47.960 -> 51:54.080] I will, I realize I said very like passively like, oh, and Pirelli's bringing new tires.
[51:54.080 -> 51:59.080] If you haven't, you know, you're not a big tire nerd like me.
[51:59.080 -> 52:05.160] Pirelli builds their tires based on expectations of the amount of like car performance
[52:05.160 -> 52:09.560] So just downforce that the cars and pressure the car the tires are under
[52:10.080 -> 52:12.080] they get
[52:12.080 -> 52:18.040] information from the teams before the start of the year in the winter of like how much downforce the teams think they're gonna be
[52:18.040 -> 52:21.840] Creating on their cars and they showed up the beginning of the year and Pirelli went. Oh
[52:22.760 -> 52:25.040] you are all putting a lot more stress
[52:25.040 -> 52:31.000] on these tires than we thought. So the tire, it's basically a new construction, I believe
[52:31.000 -> 52:37.660] is the right way to say, is what Pirelli is bringing. It should, basically the goal is
[52:37.660 -> 52:42.100] to always have tires that don't explode, because we do want tires that degrade, because that's
[52:42.100 -> 52:49.600] what creates strategy, but they don't explode under the stress. So Pirelli's saying that there should be no change in their performance
[52:49.600 -> 52:53.880] at all, and it's not going to be a factor for any of the teams. The reality is, we're
[52:53.880 -> 52:57.680] dealing with such fine margins that there will be some effect on the teams. But all
[52:57.680 -> 53:04.440] the teams got to try the new tires at Spain, actually, in a free practice. So no team is
[53:04.440 -> 53:07.200] coming in blind, not having run them before.
[53:07.200 -> 53:09.600] I'm sure they've all simulated to high heavens
[53:09.600 -> 53:12.120] what they're gonna do.
[53:12.120 -> 53:13.760] But that's what's happening this weekend.
[53:13.760 -> 53:16.600] And it could affect things, because Ferrari and S Martin,
[53:16.600 -> 53:18.880] that are not as good on their tires as the Mercedes team,
[53:18.880 -> 53:22.240] are very excited about these new tires being brought.
[53:22.240 -> 53:25.680] So I'm sure they would help those teams a little bit.
[53:25.680 -> 53:27.400] Ferrari's great with tires.
[53:27.400 -> 53:29.180] What do you mean?
[53:31.400 -> 53:34.340] The biggest wild card for me this weekend is McLaren.
[53:34.340 -> 53:39.340] Like how much their upgrade, was it a fluke
[53:39.760 -> 53:42.640] or was it Austria specific?
[53:42.640 -> 53:44.440] Because that track is very different
[53:44.440 -> 53:45.440] than the track we're going to.
[53:45.440 -> 53:50.560] So all the same reasons that I'm saying things shouldn't be quite as awful for Mercedes this
[53:50.560 -> 53:57.200] week, it's the same reason I'm kind of skeptical of McLaren being amazing last week.
[53:57.200 -> 53:59.960] Is Lando Norris just an Austria specialist?
[53:59.960 -> 54:04.440] Or is that upgrade actually going to put them in the mix now?
[54:04.440 -> 54:05.400] Did they jump Alpine?
[54:05.400 -> 54:06.400] Yeah, that's a good question.
[54:06.400 -> 54:07.400] I agree.
[54:07.400 -> 54:14.120] I don't know where to be placing them just yet as well with, I mean, I think we're just
[54:14.120 -> 54:19.360] starting to see like, maybe it is this upgrade or maybe it's not, or slightly, and it's a
[54:19.360 -> 54:22.480] combination of Lando's driving or different things like that.
[54:22.480 -> 54:30.280] We've seen a little bit more of a push from Oscar, but I'm interested to see where that falls yet because I mostly just don't
[54:30.280 -> 54:36.440] know where to be placing them when I'm trying to do predictions for races.
[54:36.440 -> 54:48.680] An update on this. So remember we reset points back to zero at summer break. I currently have 44 points, Nicole has 23. This is the third weekend
[54:48.680 -> 54:57.520] in a row where we, you and I only got Max Verstappen right. After a really good streak
[54:57.520 -> 55:02.320] for most of the season of us getting other things correct in our predictions, Spain,
[55:02.320 -> 55:08.160] Canada, and Austria, the only things we've gotten right are Max Verstappen. So it's two points, two points, two points.
[55:08.160 -> 55:15.560] To be fair, you did guess in the end that McLaren was going to be the highest amount
[55:15.560 -> 55:20.600] of points scoring for teams in the back of the grid, but that was because you said, you
[55:20.600 -> 55:24.200] picked Alvattari and I picked Williams, so then that's when you were like, oh, it's going
[55:24.200 -> 55:26.920] to be McLaren because we didn't pick McLaren.
[55:26.920 -> 55:32.720] So you were right, just not where it counts, which I'm appreciative because I need points.
[55:32.720 -> 55:38.560] If you look back at my predictions, particularly from last week, I was like one position off
[55:38.560 -> 55:40.600] for most things.
[55:40.600 -> 55:46.240] Like I think I did Esteban, we both did Esteban P8 in the sprint. I'm pretty sure he was P7.
[55:46.240 -> 55:50.960] Like, I picked Alex for P10, he was P11.
[55:50.960 -> 55:54.880] Like, it was, I picked Checo for P4, he was P3.
[55:54.880 -> 55:59.300] Like, I had the most frustrating week of predictions where I was right, because it's incredibly
[55:59.300 -> 56:01.280] hard to get things that spot on.
[56:01.280 -> 56:05.280] So like, I was as in the ballpark as someone could possibly
[56:05.280 -> 56:09.880] be. But got no points for it. So it doesn't matter because everything is just do you get
[56:09.880 -> 56:15.480] points for it? So yes, I'm decently far ahead here. But we have a reset coming in three
[56:15.480 -> 56:18.160] races. And then we're back to square one.
[56:18.160 -> 56:24.320] Holy moly, I can't believe that it's already three races and then it's halfway through.
[56:24.320 -> 56:27.360] But wow, wild. Okay, Nicole, who'd you
[56:27.360 -> 56:34.000] pick as P1? Oh, wow. Plot twist to nothing and no one at all. As much as I still would love to
[56:34.000 -> 56:41.440] change this, it's Max. I put Max. Max. It's Max. I have Max. So I'm up by 19 points. Oh,
[56:41.440 -> 56:46.160] you're gonna do a thing. Oh Oh god. I'm picking Lewis.
[56:52.880 -> 56:53.520] You said the thing! You did the thing! Oh my god. I did the thing. Now my sanity, sane brain,
[56:58.080 -> 57:08.520] please no one bet off of my picks. Like if you're if you're for some reason listening to this and make putting like money behind any of these, don't do it. But I don't need those two points, and I need positive vibes.
[57:08.520 -> 57:15.440] And therefore, I think Lewis Hamilton is going to win the British Grand Prix this year.
[57:15.440 -> 57:18.880] I think I need to clarify, I think Lewis Hamilton is going to win the British Grand Prix this
[57:18.880 -> 57:19.880] year.
[57:19.880 -> 57:24.080] Kitee Yeah, okay, you're welcome for giving you
[57:24.080 -> 57:27.680] such a lead that you can have this fun of
[57:27.680 -> 57:28.680] these picks.
[57:28.680 -> 57:32.240] That's basically all I'm going to say about that, because as much as I really wanted to
[57:32.240 -> 57:35.600] do that, I couldn't because I need...
[57:35.600 -> 57:38.400] I'm trying to catch up in whatever way I can.
[57:38.400 -> 57:40.640] I do think Mercedes is going to be better this weekend.
[57:40.640 -> 57:42.120] Do I think he's going to actually beat Max?
[57:42.120 -> 57:44.840] I don't know, but I'm going to put it out in the universe that I think Lewis Hamilton
[57:44.840 -> 57:47.680] is going to win the race this weekend. Do I think he's going to actually beat Max? I don't know, but I'm going to put it out in the universe that I think Lewis Hamilton is going to win the race this weekend.
[57:50.000 -> 57:57.920] Okay, really on edge now. That's cool. My P4 is Fernando. I have Fernando there because I may be
[57:57.920 -> 58:03.120] hoping that I meet, again, I was doing that math of I have Lewis on the podium. I just needed to
[58:02.240 -> 58:05.460] I was doing that math of I have Lewis on the podium. I just needed to have Max at P1,
[58:05.460 -> 58:07.380] but I have Lewis there somewhere
[58:07.380 -> 58:10.780] and Fernando can watch from P4.
[58:10.780 -> 58:12.080] Who do you have at P4?
[58:13.560 -> 58:14.900] I have George.
[58:14.900 -> 58:15.740] Okay.
[58:17.020 -> 58:19.600] I also, like, I would like him to have a good home Grand Prix
[58:19.600 -> 58:21.300] particularly after last year.
[58:22.560 -> 58:24.180] So I think George.
[58:29.680 -> 58:36.400] I will, I want to give a little bit of a disclaimer here, is that the way I did this is I did my actual predictions and
[58:36.400 -> 58:42.080] then I just made Lewis P1. So the rest of these aren't like scaling off Lewis
[58:42.080 -> 58:49.380] being P1. These are scaling off what I thought. I feel that's a statement that there is that yes i'm george p four
[58:49.380 -> 58:52.280] everything's made up in the points don't matter in the place to be a matter of
[58:52.280 -> 58:53.720] the points don't matter
[58:53.720 -> 58:55.920] nobody really matters that it
[58:55.920 -> 58:57.920] like on our podcast written
[58:57.920 -> 59:04.920] for eternity i'm saying that those hamilton is going to win this country
[59:04.920 -> 59:05.160] i can't even say words of so nervous about that p seven Hamilton is going to win this Grand Prix.
[59:05.160 -> 59:06.480] I can't even say words.
[59:06.480 -> 59:08.120] I'm so nervous about that.
[59:08.120 -> 59:09.120] All right.
[59:09.120 -> 59:10.120] P7.
[59:10.120 -> 59:11.880] My P7.
[59:11.880 -> 59:14.680] I have Lance for my P7.
[59:14.680 -> 59:20.440] I'm again avoiding talking about the horses again, as I did last week.
[59:20.440 -> 59:25.440] I'm not going to bring them up and I I'm gonna keep every other team in my picks
[59:25.440 -> 59:30.680] so I have Lance and P7. How about you? Well I do have the Prancing Horse in a P7
[59:30.680 -> 59:36.880] here and I have Carlos Sainz as my P7. Mm-hmm fair very fair pick I'm just still
[59:36.880 -> 59:43.600] mad at them so I just still not picking them they did me dirty. Many weeks of them.
[59:43.600 -> 59:46.520] Many weeks in a row. As soon as I stop
[59:46.520 -> 59:52.560] picking them, they start showing up kind of in a way, but not really. But yeah, despite
[59:52.560 -> 59:58.200] all the other things. Alright, my P10, I'm picking a driver I haven't actually picked
[59:58.200 -> 01:00:08.120] this season yet. I'm going with Pierre Gasly. I feel like there definitely was an early on race that you picked Pierre at once.
[01:00:08.120 -> 01:00:10.840] We picked, there was definitely one race where you and I picked the French Peans.
[01:00:10.840 -> 01:00:15.200] It may have not been for P10 though, it might've been at another point.
[01:00:15.200 -> 01:00:18.120] But I picked Esteban, so we're back at it again.
[01:00:18.120 -> 01:00:21.880] I bet some of you are like, we've done this before.
[01:00:21.880 -> 01:00:24.480] And the Battle of the French Peans in P10 maybe.
[01:00:24.480 -> 01:00:25.700] Yeah, it felt fun.
[01:00:25.700 -> 01:00:29.700] It felt like Alpine was a good, good pick back over there.
[01:00:29.700 -> 01:00:31.800] It's likely that I feel like they're going to be in that,
[01:00:32.200 -> 01:00:34.700] but like 7 to 10 spot.
[01:00:34.700 -> 01:00:37.900] Yeah, they did well in Spain.
[01:00:38.300 -> 01:00:40.700] I think they'll do better than they did this weekend.
[01:00:41.000 -> 01:00:43.200] And I think because I think they'll do better than they did
[01:00:43.200 -> 01:00:43.700] this weekend.
[01:00:43.700 -> 01:00:45.440] I think Esmond will be higher than P10.
[01:00:45.440 -> 01:00:47.440] There you go.
[01:00:47.440 -> 01:00:51.680] Yeah. All right. I went with McLaren this week.
[01:00:51.680 -> 01:00:56.600] I also went with McLaren. I felt like such a dummy last week after just not... and as
[01:00:56.600 -> 01:01:03.920] we're talking about it, it's gonna be McLaren. We knew it. We felt it. We should have known.
[01:01:03.920 -> 01:01:04.920] And we did.
[01:01:04.920 -> 01:01:08.440] And now that we picked them, it's not going to be McLaren, which scores the most points
[01:01:08.440 -> 01:01:13.840] at the bottom of the standings, but hey, you know, we'll see.
[01:01:13.840 -> 01:01:18.160] At least if I get this one wrong, I won't feel so silly as I did picking Alfa Tauri
[01:01:18.160 -> 01:01:20.480] last week.
[01:01:20.480 -> 01:01:21.920] It's not just an F1 race week.
[01:01:21.920 -> 01:01:25.640] It's an F1 Academy race week as well.
[01:01:28.220 -> 01:01:29.600] F1 Academy heads to Monza!
[01:01:31.840 -> 01:01:32.700] Unlike our F1 predictions, we do...
[01:01:36.840 -> 01:01:37.640] We get the points of whatever drivers we draft for the weekend.
[01:01:41.240 -> 01:01:41.580] We both will draft three of the F1 Academy drivers.
[01:01:44.540 -> 01:01:44.680] We can only pick two in the top seven and
[01:01:46.440 -> 01:01:48.360] then we have to pick one from the bottom half of the standings at least.
[01:01:48.360 -> 01:01:49.760] We can pick more than one.
[01:01:49.760 -> 01:01:52.360] And then, yeah.
[01:01:52.360 -> 01:01:54.400] At this point in the standings,
[01:01:54.400 -> 01:01:58.000] I had a big week at round four in Zandvoort.
[01:01:58.000 -> 01:02:00.600] I got 95 points, Nicole only got 28,
[01:02:00.600 -> 01:02:02.300] so it puts the total standings
[01:02:02.300 -> 01:02:04.240] after the two rounds we've done predictions for
[01:02:04.240 -> 01:02:05.620] at 145 to
[01:02:05.620 -> 01:02:06.620] 106.
[01:02:06.620 -> 01:02:07.620] So still very close.
[01:02:07.620 -> 01:02:13.800] Yes, but I am seeding my first pick so I can take pick two and three.
[01:02:13.800 -> 01:02:18.000] So I'm giving Brianna first pick this time around.
[01:02:18.000 -> 01:02:25.000] Okay, well, Hamza did an incredible job winning two races last week.
[01:02:25.720 -> 01:02:27.360] And she seems to be on a roll.
[01:02:27.360 -> 01:02:30.600] She's only five points behind in the total standings now.
[01:02:30.600 -> 01:02:32.480] And it feels right that I pick her again.
[01:02:32.480 -> 01:02:35.900] Like I just wanna keep riding the hot hand.
[01:02:35.900 -> 01:02:39.000] Yeah, I also wanted you to decide basically
[01:02:39.000 -> 01:02:43.400] who was gonna go first so that then I can just decide
[01:02:43.400 -> 01:02:47.040] my next two based on at least my second pick based on, at least my second pick, based on whoever you,
[01:02:47.040 -> 01:02:48.500] whoever you would pick.
[01:02:48.500 -> 01:02:49.340] I was so depressed.
[01:02:49.340 -> 01:02:51.960] I was like, I don't want to have to decide
[01:02:51.960 -> 01:02:53.260] between Hamda and Marta,
[01:02:53.260 -> 01:02:55.080] who I'm definitely taking Marta as my second pick,
[01:02:55.080 -> 01:02:57.840] and then Lena's gonna be my third pick
[01:02:57.840 -> 01:02:59.000] as the other backup.
[01:03:00.140 -> 01:03:01.540] I remember last week,
[01:03:01.540 -> 01:03:03.800] you were debating whether or not to take Lena,
[01:03:03.800 -> 01:03:09.500] and you were really distraught about not taking Lena and I think she, you know,
[01:03:09.500 -> 01:03:20.000] She had a good weekend. She showed me why I was, I should have and was debating to pick her. So this week I'm definitely keeping her in my picks.
[01:03:30.400 -> 01:03:31.400] Okay, so for my next two picks, at least one of them needs to be in the bottom half of the stampings.
[01:03:31.400 -> 01:03:38.320] So they're in Monza this week, which is a weird circuit because it's just that big long
[01:03:38.320 -> 01:03:41.240] straight and little to no turns.
[01:03:41.240 -> 01:03:45.420] So I'm trying to look at their other tracks to see like who did
[01:03:45.420 -> 01:03:51.280] well at a similar circuit like that. So I'm gonna go with Amelie and Bianca. Both had
[01:03:51.280 -> 01:03:55.040] decent weekends in Barcelona which was another high-speed track so I think that's what I'm
[01:03:55.040 -> 01:04:02.420] gonna go with. I think that's very solid picks. My next pick was going to be Bianca so I am
[01:04:02.420 -> 01:04:05.120] gonna go up with my next backup but still very happy to be
[01:04:05.120 -> 01:04:10.040] picking her Carrie Schreiner. So good picks I think I feel good it'll be
[01:04:10.040 -> 01:04:15.420] exciting to see how their weekend goes in Monza and getting a couple of
[01:04:15.420 -> 01:04:18.920] different race instances is always interesting to see like you know
[01:04:18.920 -> 01:04:23.560] multiple race winners I enjoyed that aspect of F1 Academy so cool.
[01:04:23.560 -> 01:04:26.880] Yellow sector notes not the fastest walk around F1,
[01:04:26.880 -> 01:04:29.080] but we will complete a full lap around the paddock
[01:04:29.080 -> 01:04:31.840] hitting every F1 garage.
[01:04:31.840 -> 01:04:33.280] Max Verstappen and Christian Horner
[01:04:33.280 -> 01:04:35.680] are upset about the 2026 regulations
[01:04:35.680 -> 01:04:38.240] that they have seen so far.
[01:04:38.240 -> 01:04:40.720] Carlos Sainz is right that the strategy calls for his race
[01:04:40.720 -> 01:04:41.840] were dreadful.
[01:04:41.840 -> 01:04:44.600] The only person able to complain as much as Carlos Sainz
[01:04:44.600 -> 01:04:47.380] about the strategy during the Austrian GP was Lance Stroll with
[01:04:47.380 -> 01:04:52.600] his three pit stops. Lewis Hamilton has a special British GP hat. It is neon,
[01:04:52.600 -> 01:04:55.200] similar to last year. He says he does that because he likes to be able to see
[01:04:55.200 -> 01:05:00.680] all the fans as he drives by. Esteban Ocon ran the initials on
[01:05:00.680 -> 01:05:05.040] his car for Diallo Van Hoof after his death in a crash at Spa this
[01:05:05.040 -> 01:05:08.520] weekend. We do know we didn't actually get into it or discuss it. Honestly,
[01:05:08.520 -> 01:05:14.360] selfishly, I'm still processing it. I hate Spa. I hate it every year. Just change the
[01:05:14.360 -> 01:05:19.200] corner, please. Thank you. Gunther continues to publicly criticize the FIA
[01:05:19.200 -> 01:05:23.120] for their inconsistency despite the fine he received for his last public
[01:05:23.120 -> 01:05:32.760] statements. This time he was criticizing their inconsistency, despite the fine he received for his last public statement. This time he was criticizing their inconsistency, penalizing for impeding during this past weekend.
[01:05:32.760 -> 01:05:36.560] Audi has announced its first development driver as they continue to ramp up towards their
[01:05:36.560 -> 01:05:39.080] 2026 F1 entry.
[01:05:39.080 -> 01:05:41.800] Alfa Tauri are in talks with title sponsors for next year.
[01:05:41.800 -> 01:05:47.760] Team Principal Franz Tost told reporters that is the reason they're likely not going to go back to Toro Rosso.
[01:05:48.400 -> 01:05:53.680] Scream, cry, we're all upset about it. Toro Rosso was probably the funniest name in all of F1 in my
[01:05:53.680 -> 01:06:00.640] opinion. McLaren will have a special livery at Silverstone this week. It is chrome. They
[01:06:00.640 -> 01:06:06.440] advertised it like this is meant to hearken back to the one they ran from 06-04 notably with Lewis Hamilton
[01:06:07.400 -> 01:06:12.200] But instead of the red color, it's orange and it's actually just a big group Google Chrome
[01:06:12.760 -> 01:06:14.520] advertisement, so
[01:06:14.520 -> 01:06:16.200] It's lame in my opinion
[01:06:16.200 -> 01:06:16.800] I mean
[01:06:16.800 -> 01:06:23.000] I'm happy there's chrome like but you can't advertise that you're gonna do a throwback livery and then not do the throwback livery in my
[01:06:23.680 -> 01:06:30.000] personal opinion. But it looks like they're just trying to save money cost on paint is like how when I saw that
[01:06:30.000 -> 01:06:34.320] I was like okay like this just looks like you're trying to cut corners here and save your weight
[01:06:34.320 -> 01:06:41.600] cost and save money because of paint. The reality is like most things the answer is that the FIA
[01:06:41.600 -> 01:06:46.560] only lets teams completely change their livery and not just the secondary colors of their livery
[01:06:46.660 -> 01:06:50.820] Once a season and McLaren has already done that at the Monaco GP
[01:06:50.880 -> 01:06:54.380] So apparently all they could do was leave the papaya
[01:06:54.460 -> 01:07:00.680] But I think the reality is the marketing team thought that they could market this as like, oh, it's this throwback thing
[01:07:00.680 -> 01:07:04.240] But it's not a throwback thing and that just left most fans like me
[01:07:04.040 -> 01:07:08.000] throwback thing but it's not a throwback thing and that just left most fans like me disappointed because I would love to see the car that Lewis Hamilton won
[01:07:08.000 -> 01:07:11.760] that wrote his first world championship and going back around the track because
[01:07:11.760 -> 01:07:17.200] it was a cool livery but this is not that. Williams will also run a special
[01:07:17.200 -> 01:07:21.160] livery this weekend in honor of their 800 grand prix entry. Reminder that this
[01:07:21.160 -> 01:07:26.160] is their 799th due to the cancellation of the MLGP, but the livery they
[01:07:26.160 -> 01:07:30.600] will run will be in homage to late founder Sir Frank Williams.
[01:07:30.600 -> 01:07:33.920] We actually haven't seen a picture of what their livery is yet.
[01:07:33.920 -> 01:07:38.820] When you're all listening to this, we probably should have seen it in the pit lane.
[01:07:38.820 -> 01:07:43.660] But because the MLGP was cancelled and even though this is now just their 799th Grand
[01:07:43.660 -> 01:07:47.520] Prix, they wanted to keep most of their celebrations for their home Grand Prix, which I think is a really good move.
[01:07:48.720 -> 01:07:55.040] So that is the grid walk for Sir Lewis Hamilton Week completed. How's my sector time today,
[01:07:55.040 -> 01:08:00.640] Nicole? Faster than the FA wasn't reviewing all of the track limit violations from this past weekend.
[01:08:00.640 -> 01:08:01.600] So low bar.
[01:08:08.720 -> 01:08:13.800] weekend so low bar thank you so much to voiceover man thank you to the greatest of all time the the goat of goats sir lewis hamilton happy sir lewis hamilton
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[01:09:03.560 -> 01:09:05.840] But today felt like a grid celebration of Lewis
[01:09:05.840 -> 01:09:07.120] and not a grid walk.
[01:09:07.120 -> 01:09:08.620] Lewis Hamilton Week!