Podcast: Grid Walk
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This Week On the ALEX ALBON (#23) episode of Grid Walk! It’s always sunny in Formula 1… at least somewhere across the multiverse! In this universe the gang attempts to cover everything happening in the world of F1!
BWT Alpine F1 Team has two superheroes and a dude from Philly in the headlines providing us with the first true valuation of an F1 team since the sale of Williams Racing! Ryan Reynolds, Rob McElhenney and Michael B. Jordan are part of an investment group that has acquired a 24% stake in BWT Alpine F1 Team for $218 million. This would give BWT Alpine F1 Team an evaluation of just under $1 BILLION! Does this mean we can now confidently say that some F1 teams are worth more than a billion dollars? What does this tell us about the current bid price for parties interested in joining the F1 Grid, is it enough?
Gossip Grid is back to give you a look into the lives of the paddock elite (when it comes to F1 and pop culture)! Nicole catches us up on F1 in pop culture which is basically what Lewis Hamilton did during his week off! BWT Alpine F1 Team driver Pierre Gasly was spotted at a Coldplay concert belting out what song? Mercedes-AMG Petronas F1 Team driver Lewis Hamilton headed to Paris Fashion Week to support Pharrell Williams at his first show as Creative Director of Louis Vuitton Menswear. Zhou Guanyu is a driver for Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake AND a brand ambassador for Dior! Zhou Guanyu supported Dior at Paris Fashion Week from the front row of their show. Blink and you might miss Lewis Hamilton's cameo in Stormzy’s newest music video! Ice T wants to make sure you don’t miss his support for Lewis Hamilton! How did Ice T clear up any confusion on Twitter? Lewis Hamilton hopped on a helicopter so he didn’t miss which performance at Glastonbury?
Even though it is only June, it is time to start talking about F1 Silly Season, as the silliness is obviously brewing! Will we see any announcements from Scuderia Ferrari regarding extensions for their drivers Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz Jr.? Will Mercedes-AMG Petronas F1 Team and Lewis Hamilton announce an extended contract at Silverstone? Oracle Red Bull Racing is definitely causing a lot of the SILLY! Has Nyck de Vries’s fate for the 2024 F1 season already been decided? Will Yuki Tsunoda be called up to replace Sergio Perez as Max Verstappen’s teammate? Will Daniel Ricciardo be returning to the F1 grid with Scuderia AlphaTauri?Briana and Nicole bring you a preview of this weekend’s Austrian Grand Prix! Briana breaks down the latest Pirelli tire graphic! Will we finally get a qualifying session without rain? This weekend the Red Bull Ring will feature a Spring Race which means a Spring Shootout! Will Max Verstappen top the podium in Spielberg? Will Sergio Perez be able to silence the haters? Can Williams Racing and Alex Albon stay in the points like they did at the Canadian Grand Prix?
Could we see an Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant F1 Team driver, Fernando Alonso or Lance Stroll on the podium? Will Mercedes-AMG Petronas F1 Team remain in the fight?
Grid Walk is a weekly Formula 1 show that releases every Thursday. For daily F1 content follow @gridwalkshow on all social media platforms.
00:00 It’s Always Sunny in Formula 1
01:49 Alpine’s New Investors
20:16 Expanding the F1 Grid
27:51 Gossip Grid: F1 in Pop Culture
32:24 Silly Season is Here
33:42 Carlos Sainz & Charles Leclerc Extension Talk
36:03 Lewis Hamilton’s Contract
36:40 The Red Bull & AlphaTauri Seats
44:57 Briana Pitches the 2023 Red Bull Lineup
47:01 Austrian Grand Prix Preview
52:50 Austrian Grand Prix & Sprint Predictions
59:50 Yellow Sector Notes: One Story From Each Team
"Gridlock: Alpine's New Investors, F1 Team Valuations, and Ryan Reynolds' Marketing Potential"**
* Alpine F1 Team has secured a significant investment from a group led by Hollywood celebrities Ryan Reynolds, Rob McElhenney, and Michael B. Jordan, along with various financial investors.
* This investment values Alpine at approximately $900 million, making it the first time since the sale of Williams that an F1 team's valuation has been publicly disclosed.
* The valuation of Alpine highlights the remarkable growth and financial health of Formula One teams in recent years, with the value of a mid-tier team quadrupling in just three years.
* Ryan Reynolds' involvement in Alpine has sparked discussions about the potential for increased marketing opportunities and fan engagement for the team.
* The episode explores the challenges Alpine faces in improving its marketing and fan base, including a lack of clear identity and a perceived corporate safety approach.
* The hosts discuss the ongoing debate surrounding the expansion of the F1 grid, with the FIA pushing for more teams and the current teams resisting due to concerns about diluting the value of their franchises.
* The episode concludes with a segment called "Gossip Grid," which covers recent fashion-related activities of F1 drivers during Paris Fashion Week, including Pierre Gasly, Lando Norris, and Lewis Hamilton.
**Additional Points:**
* The episode emphasizes the growing importance of marketing and fan engagement in Formula One, with teams seeking new ways to attract and retain fans.
* The valuation of Alpine serves as a benchmark for the financial strength of F1 teams and the potential for future investment opportunities.
* The hosts acknowledge the challenges faced by Alpine in improving its marketing and fan base, suggesting that the team needs to find a way to differentiate itself and create a stronger identity.
* The discussion on grid expansion highlights the complex dynamics between the FIA and the F1 teams, with both sides having valid arguments for their respective positions.
* The "Gossip Grid" segment provides a lighthearted look at the off-track activities of F1 drivers, offering a glimpse into their personal lives and interests.
# Formula One: The Austrian Grand Prix and Silly Season Speculation
## Gossip Grid:
- Nicole Katz and Briana L. Klein discuss various Formula One-related topics, including:
- Ferrari's contract negotiations with Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz.
- Rumors of Lewis Hamilton signing a contract extension with Mercedes at the British Grand Prix.
- The uncertain future of Alex Albon, Yuki Tsunoda, Daniel Ricciardo, and Liam Lawson in the Red Bull and AlphaTauri teams.
## Silly Season Speculation:
- The hosts delve into the ongoing driver movement rumors and potential lineup changes for the 2024 Formula One season.
- They consider the possibility of Yuki Tsunoda moving up to the Red Bull team, Alex Palou joining AlphaTauri, and Daniel Ricciardo returning to Red Bull or taking a seat at AlphaTauri.
- Nicole expresses her desire for a chaotic and entertaining Red Bull lineup featuring Max Verstappen, Yuki Tsunoda, Alex Palou, and Daniel Ricciardo.
## Pirelli Tire Graphic Analysis:
- The hosts analyze the Pirelli tire graphic for the Austrian Grand Prix, noting the increased stress on the rear of the car.
- They predict that this could benefit Mercedes and hinder Ferrari and Aston Martin.
- They also discuss the unique characteristics of the Red Bull Ring circuit, which features a mix of slow, medium, and fast corners, as well as long straights.
## Predictions for the Austrian Grand Prix:
- Nicole and Briana share their predictions for the upcoming race, taking into account the weather forecast, the performance of different teams and drivers, and the circuit layout.
- They express their hope for a dry qualifying session to allow for a proper evaluation of team upgrades.
**Predictions for the Sprint and Grand Prix:**
* **Sprint:**
* Team with the most points: Mercedes
* Last to receive the Goofy Sprint medal (P3): Lewis Hamilton
* Last in the points (P8): Esteban Ocon
* **Grand Prix:**
* P1: Max Verstappen
* P4: Sergio Perez
* P4 (just missing the podium): Fernando Alonso
* P7: Esteban Ocon
* P10 (last in the points): Alex Albon
**Team Scoring Predictions:**
* Most points in the bottom half of the standings: McLaren
**Yellow Sector Notes:**
* Checo Pérez to do a show run in the RB7 through the streets of Madrid on July 15.
* Mercedes hires two prominent engineers from Ferrari's engine division.
* Lance Stroll believes he should be knighted.
* Ferrari had a filming day to test upgrades.
* Esma Noghan went on vacation with Mick Schumacher.
* Oscar Piastri played cricket in Australia with the Sky Sports team.
* Williams to have a special 800th GP livery at Silverstone.
* Jensen Button to do show runs at Silverstone in the 1992 title-winning FW14B.
* Joe and Nicole attended the Berlin Special Olympics.
* Haas to use the Austrian Grand Prix as a test session.
* Yuki Tsunoda added to the list of Red Bull drivers driving at the Red Bull event in Germany in September.
**Question of the Week:**
* What do you want to see Ryan Reynolds do with Alpine?
[00:00.000 -> 00:07.280] Someone on the grid 23 Kevin someone is number Alex Alex is 23. Oh, I feel awful
[00:17.520 -> 00:23.200] Has anyone ever asked Alex Albon if he's a Michael Jordan family did he grow up watching basketball and did he pick 23
[00:25.500 -> 00:26.500] Well, that's a Michael Jordan fan. Did he grow up watching basketball? And did he pick 23? These are all the questions that I suddenly didn't know that I had. And now I suddenly have.
[00:27.200 -> 00:28.900] Well, that's a deep dive for later.
[00:31.000 -> 00:34.200] Because now I'm imagining a tiny little Alex Albon in a Chicago
[00:34.200 -> 00:34.900] Bulls jersey.
[00:35.600 -> 00:37.900] Cole and Brianna are lined up on the grid.
[00:37.900 -> 00:41.800] It's lights out and away we go on this week's Gridlock.
[00:43.500 -> 00:47.160] It's always sunny in Formula 1, at least somewhere across the multiverse,
[00:47.160 -> 00:48.200] but in this universe,
[00:48.200 -> 00:51.440] the gang attempts to predict the Australian GP.
[00:51.440 -> 00:53.960] We ask if we'll ever get a dry qualifying.
[00:53.960 -> 00:55.420] Please don't rain this weekend,
[00:55.420 -> 00:58.280] even though I've seen all the weather reports.
[00:58.280 -> 01:00.360] Nicole catches us up on F1 in pop culture,
[01:00.360 -> 01:04.360] which is really just the Lewis Hamilton report this week.
[01:04.360 -> 01:07.360] But first, Alpine has two superheroes
[01:07.360 -> 01:10.360] and a dude from Philly in the headlines,
[01:10.360 -> 01:12.360] providing us for the first time the valuation
[01:12.360 -> 01:15.400] of an F1 team since the sale of Williams.
[01:15.400 -> 01:16.500] So much to get into.
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[01:46.880 -> 01:54.160] now let's go talk about Deadpool. There have been rumors for at least a full year now that
[01:54.160 -> 02:00.080] Alpine has been looking for some infusion of capital into their F1 team, because it's
[02:00.080 -> 02:06.080] well reported that when it comes to infrastructure and just general capital investment, they
[02:06.080 -> 02:09.200] lag behind the top three teams.
[02:09.200 -> 02:13.080] We don't actually even know if they're fully, like last year, if they fully hit the cost
[02:13.080 -> 02:15.840] cap number.
[02:15.840 -> 02:22.160] But they got that infusion, and it came with a really fun headline.
[02:22.160 -> 02:26.560] And I think we need to address the fact that three really big names in
[02:26.560 -> 02:37.680] Hollywood got to be the headline of what was a $218 million purchase of 24% equity in the Alpine
[02:37.680 -> 02:48.640] F1 team. Um, yeah. So when I woke up to the headline of Ryan Reynolds invest in Alpine, I thought
[02:48.640 -> 02:51.840] I was dreaming.
[02:51.840 -> 02:56.320] And then it was followed up with Rob McElhoney, which makes so much sense because I don't
[02:56.320 -> 03:00.960] think the two of them are now able to invest in anything not together.
[03:00.960 -> 03:04.120] And Michael B. Jordan.
[03:04.120 -> 03:10.000] And I love headlines like this, because it's a big investment group and they are just...
[03:10.000 -> 03:18.000] And like it's probably mostly like people in finance whose names we wouldn't care about.
[03:18.000 -> 03:22.000] But because Ryan Reynolds' name is there, that gets to be the headline.
[03:22.000 -> 03:29.280] And there was the big like breaking news graphic that F1 uses that it was just Ryan Reynolds' face, which made me a little salty for Michael
[03:29.280 -> 03:34.000] B. Jordan, and, like, I want to see his face on a giant F1 graphic.
[03:34.000 -> 03:39.440] Yeah, I think it's just, people know Ryan Reynolds, I mean, people know Michael B. Jordan,
[03:39.440 -> 03:40.720] not that they don't know any- Come on!
[03:40.720 -> 03:45.440] Right, I know, as I'm saying this, I was, but's as also as I live in the household and the
[03:45.440 -> 03:48.480] Super Bowl commercials I was really excited about Michael B. Jordan being a commercial
[03:48.480 -> 03:54.280] and my dad was like I thought it was Michael Jordan from the basketball and I'm just like
[03:54.280 -> 03:59.440] no you just don't know pop culture so that's what I have like happening in my brain and
[03:59.440 -> 04:05.980] but huge headline I think it's I think Ryan Reynolds also has developed this
[04:09.120 -> 04:14.660] Magic of a headline wherever he is like putting an investment It seems that like people really enjoy it or it ends up being very lucrative for him in some fashion
[04:14.660 -> 04:17.500] Whether it's actual money or just really interesting press
[04:17.940 -> 04:22.100] So I think that's why he's like the really easy like lump on here
[04:22.100 -> 04:28.300] but yeah, it's so incredible the amount of headlines that were just like list all three of them like Ryan Reynolds, Rob
[04:28.300 -> 04:32.180] McElhenney and Michael B. Jordan like went to a race and was like that one
[04:32.180 -> 04:39.740] which is like so not at all what happened, not at all what an investment group is but that's how I'll imagine it happened.
[04:39.740 -> 04:46.000] So there are two non-celebrity things that I really want to talk about with this.
[04:46.000 -> 04:56.500] The first one being, this is the first time since the sale of Williams that we now have a in-stone valuation of how much an F1 team costs.
[04:56.500 -> 05:00.000] And this is a middling, midfield...
[05:00.000 -> 05:10.880] This is not like the Mercedes-Red Bull Ferraris of the world. This is Alpine we're talking about. That since they've returned to the grid, they're just there.
[05:10.880 -> 05:16.160] Yeah, I would say they're the team that is in probably the
[05:16.160 -> 05:19.440] most identity crisis as they're trying to figure out who they
[05:19.440 -> 05:23.960] want to be on the grid and what their branding is and kind
[05:23.960 -> 05:26.140] of the back and forth with like, their branding is and kind of the back and forth with like Rennel
[05:26.140 -> 05:30.440] and Alpine and referring to like that whole,
[05:30.440 -> 05:31.900] again, confusing web of memes.
[05:31.900 -> 05:36.900] Alpine decided to do what HBO Max just did
[05:37.160 -> 05:40.860] where they said, we have this big brand cache in HBO.
[05:40.860 -> 05:47.560] Let's drop that part of it and become Max streaming. Alpine basically did the same
[05:47.560 -> 05:52.260] thing where they had like this historic name in Renault that has a history in F1 and racing
[05:52.260 -> 06:00.280] and they said, you know what we should do? We should go buy something else. And I guess
[06:00.280 -> 06:04.360] like I hear you screaming in the comments all the reasons why they did it and they want
[06:04.360 -> 06:05.440] to they want to promote their
[06:05.440 -> 06:10.080] Sports car brand yada yada yada. It's still kind of silly and it's still the same vibe
[06:10.640 -> 06:16.160] I would support you more if your car was pink all the time. Yes. Yes
[06:16.400 -> 06:23.900] Honestly that that is the key to this but that so before I get into the marketing which is also the pink car of it all
[06:23.900 -> 06:26.480] I So, before I get into the marketing, which is also the pink car of it all, I think that
[06:26.480 -> 06:31.360] it's worth pointing out that when Williams sold, it sold for the amount that this investment
[06:31.360 -> 06:35.060] group just bought a 24% share.
[06:35.060 -> 06:49.780] So in three years time, the value of an F1 team has quadrupled. And this is like, it's hard with these entities that don't sell to get a clear
[06:49.780 -> 06:56.620] market indication like this. And I think we can now very clearly say that a good F1 team is worth
[06:56.620 -> 07:07.760] well over a billion dollars because this puts Alpine at about 900 million-ish. So like, yeah, billion dollars. We're talking billion
[07:07.760 -> 07:08.760] dollar franchises.
[07:08.760 -> 07:14.100] Yeah, I mean, technically, if you want to think of it as a team, if you want to look
[07:14.100 -> 07:19.960] at Alpine as the last time they've won, which aka Renault was like 2006, like almost 20
[07:19.960 -> 07:27.480] years ago, and they're getting some type of valuation close to a billion dollars is crazy.
[07:27.480 -> 07:30.980] So even if you want to be looking at them falling in the constructors in fourth place
[07:30.980 -> 07:35.760] last year, whatever way you want to look at that, that still puts three teams above them,
[07:35.760 -> 07:40.840] which would definitely put, I mean, I would feel very comfortable in saying Ferrari's
[07:40.840 -> 07:48.760] worth over a billion dollars and Red Bull Mercedes, no question. So it's just incredible to be thinking what the evaluation
[07:48.760 -> 07:49.880] of the other teams could be.
[07:49.880 -> 07:54.100] It would be very interesting to see the Williams deal go through now,
[07:55.100 -> 07:59.220] just given like what would be the strength and value of
[07:59.680 -> 08:04.940] the Williams racing name and and also just having that
[08:04.940 -> 08:07.800] already established spot spot no matter current
[08:07.800 -> 08:09.680] success of the team.
[08:09.680 -> 08:14.480] We've been hearing rumors that three teams got offers for over a billion dollars and
[08:14.480 -> 08:16.880] they were rejected because they felt like they were too little.
[08:16.880 -> 08:21.720] And when you see that headline, like various F1 teams won't sell for a billion dollars,
[08:21.720 -> 08:27.240] I now see why. Like I 100% see why. Because
[08:27.240 -> 08:31.800] of the teams, like I don't think I'd put Alpine, like even though they finished fourth to your
[08:31.800 -> 08:35.460] point, like I don't think they're the fourth most valuable team on the grid because of
[08:35.460 -> 08:46.240] infrastructure and investment. Like Audi is buying into Alpha, into Sauber and I believe Sauber's facilities are more recent and up to date than
[08:47.760 -> 08:55.600] Alpines are so like and this is just the F1 team it the equity has nothing to do with the engine
[08:55.600 -> 09:03.840] division as well so I the number blows my mind and all of this is because like I personally from a
[09:03.840 -> 09:05.280] sporting perspective have an
[09:05.280 -> 09:11.680] issue with the cost cap and how they're handling the cost cap, but this is the financial result of
[09:11.680 -> 09:19.600] having fixed costs. The health of this sport in three years because of that cost cap is wild.
[09:20.560 -> 09:26.300] Yeah, and teams are being kind of forced to, I mean, I think a lot of them want to be looking
[09:26.300 -> 09:32.020] for other ways to get in a cash flow intake and like different investment and different
[09:32.020 -> 09:34.620] opportunities and different pinpoints that way.
[09:34.620 -> 09:40.240] But it also just feels like with this big boom of F1 and obviously the growth and the
[09:40.240 -> 09:46.640] interest and the value skyrocketing so very quickly. It will be really interesting
[09:47.520 -> 09:54.240] if it'll continue to kind of maybe be like a bubble. Who knows what this entire interest
[09:54.240 -> 09:58.080] will turn into and the growth will turn into, whether it's expanding the calendar or
[09:58.800 -> 10:06.000] adding new cities to the calendar. I mean, we're talking about last week how F1 Arcade is expanding to arcades across
[10:06.000 -> 10:11.440] like the globe. So, and that's like just, it's like an entity that if you want to be looking,
[10:11.440 -> 10:18.960] you think Formula One, you think Grand Prix races, you don't think of an urban metropolitan arcade
[10:18.960 -> 10:25.440] bar. Like it's, it's a crazy brand extension already. So it's, I don't know, maybe some people do.
[10:25.440 -> 10:28.980] Someone clearly did and is now hopefully got a promotion
[10:28.980 -> 10:31.440] for thinking of this amazing idea.
[10:31.440 -> 10:34.860] But whatever it can continue to evolve into,
[10:34.860 -> 10:37.280] I think will just open up more room
[10:37.280 -> 10:38.840] for different types of investors
[10:38.840 -> 10:42.080] that we probably never would have anticipated
[10:43.040 -> 10:45.840] investing at all or having any sort of interest in F1. I mean,
[10:45.840 -> 10:49.600] I think you could have also said the same thing about Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney when they
[10:49.600 -> 10:57.600] invested in Rexxum. Everyone was like, what? This sounds kind of real world Ted Lasso-y type vibes,
[10:57.600 -> 11:03.760] and so who's to say that they can't just go somewhere and do it again-ish? I know it's not
[11:03.760 -> 11:09.200] the same, but they're not like, oh, yeah. Me! And that's a perfect transition. This is a perfect transition into the marketing
[11:09.200 -> 11:15.960] aspect of this. And I pulled up some quick numbers here to talk about how with the boom
[11:15.960 -> 11:26.760] of F1, I personally see that Alpine seems to have lagged behind in fan interest and fan popularity. And so I'm
[11:26.760 -> 11:31.800] going to compare them to McLaren, for example. These are not NBL numbers,
[11:31.800 -> 11:37.760] but as of recording this on Tuesday, June 27th, McLaren has 10.5 million
[11:37.760 -> 11:43.960] followers on their Instagram account. Then Ferrari has 11.3 million followers
[11:43.960 -> 11:46.000] on their Instagram account.
[11:46.000 -> 11:49.400] Mercedes has 11 million followers.
[11:49.400 -> 11:50.920] And I had Red Bull right here.
[11:50.920 -> 11:51.920] There it is.
[11:51.920 -> 11:54.280] Red Bull has 10 million followers.
[11:54.280 -> 11:56.600] Alpine has 2.8.
[11:56.600 -> 12:01.960] Which puts them in the league of Alfa Romeo that has 2.1.
[12:01.960 -> 12:10.240] So and this is a factory team, a works team, with history in motorsports, so you can't say,
[12:10.800 -> 12:14.960] oh McLaren has more because of their history. Like, do they have a better history? Yes.
[12:14.960 -> 12:19.040] But do they also have a fantastic marketing department that I don't think Alpine has?
[12:19.600 -> 12:26.440] Yes. They also, like, performance-wise, like, you can can't say like, well, well, McLaren's
[12:26.440 -> 12:32.740] had fantastic performance like the other ones I've read. No. But there's a reason I'm harping
[12:32.740 -> 12:37.840] on the McLaren's because on track, they're pretty, they're relatively speaking one to
[12:37.840 -> 12:41.460] one. I mean, we can talk about the British audience for the French audience. I can't
[12:41.460 -> 12:45.440] get in the weeds. But in modern day Formula One,
[12:45.440 -> 12:48.280] the team with the most missed opportunities
[12:48.280 -> 12:51.300] when it comes to marketing, I believe is Alpine.
[12:51.300 -> 12:54.320] Which means that the team that can benefit the most
[12:54.320 -> 12:59.320] from the marketing master himself, Ryan Reynolds,
[12:59.440 -> 13:01.800] like this feels like Alpine going,
[13:01.800 -> 13:03.720] okay, yeah, you have money.
[13:03.720 -> 13:05.640] I mean, the reality is they took this for the money,
[13:05.640 -> 13:08.860] but me from the outside, I'm like, please leverage this.
[13:10.280 -> 13:14.560] But my worry is with a team like Repsim,
[13:14.560 -> 13:16.880] he could do whatever the hell he wants.
[13:16.880 -> 13:18.480] With something like Mint Mobile,
[13:18.480 -> 13:21.840] they're like, yeah, yeah, Ryan Reynolds, do your thing.
[13:21.840 -> 13:30.080] F1 is notoriously tight with the ability to shoot things, do anything fun.
[13:30.080 -> 13:36.040] Like do you think the team, the reason the teams don't do more on social during the weekend
[13:36.040 -> 13:40.800] isn't because they don't want to. It's because there's these broadcast rights deals in place
[13:40.800 -> 13:45.200] that don't allow them to. Have you ever been in the United States and have
[13:45.200 -> 13:49.580] been unable to watch a Sky Sports video that has nothing to do with On Track but because
[13:49.580 -> 13:54.120] it was filmed at a Grand Prix, you need to go to like the back alleys of Reddit to find
[13:54.120 -> 14:00.360] a version of that video to watch? Uh huh. That's because of these crazy, crazy tight
[14:00.360 -> 14:08.000] broadcast deals that have loosened slightly since the post-Bernie era, but Ryan Reynolds
[14:08.000 -> 14:12.480] is not going to be able to do whatever he wants. Ryan Reynolds is going to be given this tiny box
[14:12.480 -> 14:21.680] to play in, and I am not convinced yet that he can make that work. Yeah, and as I think,
[14:28.960 -> 14:36.760] Yeah, and as I think to make a very like broad statement or not broad, but a very like potential hot take and just kind of like reflecting on reasons why maybe like Alpine isn't winning
[14:36.760 -> 14:39.680] in the marketing game, or at least my brain was thinking in terms of like the social media
[14:39.680 -> 14:42.160] numbers and this is like a live thought I'm happening right now.
[14:42.160 -> 14:47.560] So if this is all garbage and you disagree, anyone listening like that that's so fair, because it could be nothing. But I'm
[14:47.560 -> 14:48.560] curious of your take.
[14:48.560 -> 14:52.520] Stop qualifying me. Give me your fun take.
[14:52.520 -> 14:56.520] Like watching Drive to Survive, not even just the most recent season with everything with
[14:56.520 -> 15:02.400] Alpine, but Rydal was, it was always kind of spun of like them, not them being, not
[15:02.400 -> 15:09.900] like, like kind of played as the villain. so I could see why the newer fans wouldn't necessarily be like diving
[15:09.900 -> 15:13.760] immediately to go follow and then weren't part of that like rebrand or
[15:13.760 -> 15:16.580] like there could just be a lot of things where they miss the mark to your point
[15:16.580 -> 15:20.740] like I just remember and again as I'm sitting here in a Daniel Riccardo shirt
[15:20.740 -> 15:25.080] but as I was remember watching Drive to survive and having such the awful
[15:25.080 -> 15:30.760] taste in my mouth of like how that all went through and just the way that that that was
[15:30.760 -> 15:31.760] played out.
[15:31.760 -> 15:36.400] So I feel like maybe if a lot of new fans were introduced to teams this way via drive
[15:36.400 -> 15:40.720] to survive and like that was their initial opinion on things and then Alpine is rental,
[15:40.720 -> 15:44.160] but it's not rental and like that could be part of it too.
[15:44.160 -> 15:45.120] That's like the random piece, but I's not Reynold. That could be part of it too, that's the random piece.
[15:45.840 -> 15:51.440] But I think you're so spot on. I think McLaren, again, is that great example of history in the
[15:51.440 -> 15:59.200] sport, not necessarily stellar, unbelievable, top-notch performance on track, but still having
[15:59.200 -> 16:05.000] a really unbelievable marketing presence across the board.
[16:05.000 -> 16:06.000] People love-
[16:06.000 -> 16:07.000] They don't seem to have a-
[16:07.000 -> 16:13.000] Yeah, no, they're able to get the new fans, or people are excited to say,
[16:13.000 -> 16:15.000] I'm, go Papaya!
[16:15.000 -> 16:20.000] And it's like, you haven't seen a podium in who knows, I don't know how long.
[16:20.000 -> 16:25.560] But people are still so proud and excited, and it doesn't matter,
[16:25.560 -> 16:27.720] because they just love the McLaren branding
[16:27.720 -> 16:29.280] and what it comes with,
[16:29.280 -> 16:31.840] and Alpine is totally missing that.
[16:31.840 -> 16:33.900] Yeah, and it's shocking to me,
[16:33.900 -> 16:36.180] because your Daniel Ricciardo point,
[16:36.180 -> 16:40.640] like, Alpine and Renault have had great drivers.
[16:40.640 -> 16:43.360] Like, they had the Daniel Ricciardo bump,
[16:43.360 -> 16:46.080] then they had the Fernando Alonso bump, then they had the Fernando Alonso bump,
[16:46.080 -> 16:51.460] then they had the Scandal bump. Like Red Bull is the villain. Mercedes sometimes
[16:51.460 -> 16:54.560] were the villain in Drive to Survive. Like I don't know how much of it is like
[16:54.560 -> 17:03.380] a villain thing but like a lack of identity to latch on to. That is... and I do
[17:03.380 -> 17:06.760] think they have a driver pairing right now that's not providing that,
[17:06.760 -> 17:15.160] and I love Esty Besty, but like, him and Pierre aren't Fernando and Daniel Ricciardo.
[17:15.160 -> 17:23.480] And I don't, they also seem reluctant to lean into the French team thing, like, they scream
[17:23.480 -> 17:27.680] corporate safety. And so you know what fixes corporate safety
[17:28.480 -> 17:34.480] you know Ryan Reynolds oh wait I don't think he's going to be able to do like it would be
[17:34.480 -> 17:41.760] in a dream world like Ryan Reynolds shit like god put Ryan Reynolds in a room with Aatmar and just
[17:41.760 -> 17:53.040] make him feel uncomfortable like yes like this is like there is stuff there like there it's just not. Yeah Otmar's definitely never seen Deadpool
[17:53.040 -> 17:58.720] and I don't foresee that he will. I'm hoping that this deal again as we're talking about like
[17:58.720 -> 18:03.120] investment groups and things and as cool of an idea it would be for like Ryan Reynolds just to
[18:03.120 -> 18:05.000] walk in somewhere and be like, do all of this!
[18:05.000 -> 18:10.360] Obviously that's not what would go down, but it would be really interesting just because
[18:10.360 -> 18:16.160] a lot of the members of this group, and as Reynolds' CEO wants to say, it's not about
[18:16.160 -> 18:19.960] the money, like, okay, it is, but them having-
[18:19.960 -> 18:21.120] They needed this capital investment.
[18:21.120 -> 18:25.500] Of course, and it feels like it could be a little bit too late, but they are talking about wanting
[18:25.500 -> 18:28.760] to put a lot of the investment towards hospitality and things
[18:28.760 -> 18:29.880] for fans.
[18:29.880 -> 18:32.340] And there is certain members and lots
[18:32.340 -> 18:35.400] of different members of this investment group that have
[18:35.400 -> 18:38.160] ownerships and participations in other soccer teams
[18:38.160 -> 18:40.240] and other sporting events overall.
[18:40.240 -> 18:41.940] So I think the conversation in the room
[18:41.940 -> 18:44.520] could be really interesting about just what has worked
[18:44.520 -> 18:45.680] and hasn't worked from different types of
[18:45.680 -> 18:51.680] people. It's weird that Ryan Reynolds is could be just in that room of
[18:51.680 -> 18:57.280] conversation. He should! Right! Bring him! Bring Rob! Bring Michael B. Jordan! Like
[18:57.280 -> 19:01.680] these are these like yes they're celebrity names but like if Ryan
[19:01.680 -> 19:08.880] Reynolds agency is not in that room it doesn't have to be him it needs to be his advertising agency is not in the room for the marketing conversation.
[19:08.880 -> 19:10.400] That is a missed opportunity.
[19:10.400 -> 19:14.800] Oh, yeah, 100%. I think and then again, I mean, driving force as to why I think he would
[19:15.600 -> 19:20.160] want to have been a part of this and anyone would have want him to be a part of this.
[19:20.160 -> 19:23.360] So that's but that's me coming from the place of maybe they'll be
[19:24.000 -> 19:30.000] better and they'll be doing everything that they say that they're going to be doing marketing-wise.
[19:30.000 -> 19:35.500] But it's cool to see that they're like, oh, that just the value is at a billion dollars.
[19:35.500 -> 19:38.500] Would I necessarily agree for that for all people?
[19:38.500 -> 19:46.560] I don't know right now, but I think in general for the health of the sport and where it's going, that it is really just cool to see. And kind of where you're at.
[19:46.560 -> 19:49.040] In summary, holy crap, F1 teams are now
[19:49.040 -> 19:51.240] worth over a billion dollars.
[19:51.240 -> 19:55.720] And F1, loosen the reins and let Ryan Reynolds do something fun,
[19:55.720 -> 19:56.320] please.
[19:56.320 -> 19:59.560] We don't actually think you will, but I will ask for it.
[19:59.560 -> 20:02.080] Gridwalk will be here asking for you
[20:02.080 -> 20:10.120] to do something fun that is not just like, not the normal thing you do with celebrities f1 like you're you're too like even stodgy with your celebrities
[20:10.120 -> 20:15.640] Like let him loose to do whatever and put Otmer in a room and make him watch Deadpool and react
[20:16.520 -> 20:23.240] If everyone teams are worth over a billion dollars. I think we are seeing now why this
[20:24.280 -> 20:29.300] Conversation about adding new teams to the grid has been so contentious.
[20:29.300 -> 20:37.600] So a reminder, we did a whole segment, if I remember I will link it in the comments below, what episode it was on.
[20:37.600 -> 20:45.880] That we did an F1 ring, where we broke down why the FIA wants more teams on the grid and why the F1 teams don't.
[20:45.880 -> 20:48.000] And now we're seeing the raw numbers of that.
[20:48.000 -> 20:55.240] A quick wrap-up summary is the FIA gets a flat fee for the number of teams on the grid.
[20:55.240 -> 21:02.480] But as we see now, the teams create value in the value of their franchise, which is
[21:02.480 -> 21:03.480] the team.
[21:03.480 -> 21:06.960] And the more franchises there are, it dilutes that
[21:06.960 -> 21:15.840] value. So if there are 15 F1 teams, then one is less valuable than what being one of 15 is less
[21:15.840 -> 21:25.760] valuable than being one of 10. But to the FIA, if they got paid $10 a team, they go from making $100 to $150, essentially.
[21:25.760 -> 21:27.120] And they're like, more money.
[21:27.120 -> 21:31.200] And that is the main contention point in all of this.
[21:32.000 -> 21:38.400] So now that we have some raw numbers of the actual cost of an F1 team,
[21:38.400 -> 21:40.000] a middle-of-the-road F1 team,
[21:40.640 -> 21:50.600] I can totally understand why a 200 million entry fee is laughable to F1 teams right now.
[21:50.600 -> 21:54.600] To them, that is maybe a quarter of the value of their franchise.
[21:54.600 -> 21:55.600] Maybe.
[21:55.600 -> 22:08.560] So, I don't currently see a great avenue for more teams entering the grid. And if they do, it's gonna cost a billion dollars to enter to join the
[22:08.560 -> 22:08.960] grid.
[22:11.920 -> 22:17.240] It is insanity. I was already really on the sides of the teams
[22:17.240 -> 22:19.800] with this. I mean, like, look, you got to have a bigger birthday
[22:19.800 -> 22:22.000] cake at the birthday party if you're gonna have more people at
[22:22.000 -> 22:24.920] the birthday party. So you can't just be splitting the same
[22:24.920 -> 22:27.020] amount of funds like great for, you
[22:27.020 -> 22:33.680] know, the head who just gets as much as he wants, but this is clear proof that
[22:34.260 -> 22:35.720] teams are right to turn away offers.
[22:35.720 -> 22:39.840] And that it's also literally laughable.
[22:39.840 -> 22:45.920] I mean, this, the buy-in was now, God, this investment is literally under a quarter.
[22:45.920 -> 22:48.400] It is, and it's just under a quarter,
[22:48.400 -> 22:50.320] which you know that that, of course, was the big battle,
[22:50.320 -> 22:52.120] like, had to be such back and forth
[22:52.120 -> 22:56.440] in the deal of like 25, 24, 20, 20,
[22:56.440 -> 22:58.800] like that is so, I can see the shark tank
[22:58.800 -> 22:59.880] of it all happening.
[22:59.880 -> 23:03.440] So it's just so driving the force home
[23:03.440 -> 23:06.560] that it's just under a quarter that this was just
[23:06.560 -> 23:09.240] a investment for.
[23:09.240 -> 23:11.160] Like what would that buy-in even do?
[23:11.160 -> 23:13.120] It really just seems like such a cash grab.
[23:13.120 -> 23:16.600] It's not going to provide any sort of legitimacy in the bid.
[23:16.600 -> 23:23.260] And then I think it just points to that, God, it really limits who would be able to create
[23:23.260 -> 23:25.920] a new team just based on funding?
[23:25.920 -> 23:29.920] Like that population of people or groups in the world
[23:29.920 -> 23:34.920] is like very specific and just not as like accessible.
[23:35.640 -> 23:39.520] So I think then it brings back up the question of like,
[23:39.520 -> 23:40.880] is this even feasible?
[23:40.880 -> 23:41.960] Is this possible?
[23:41.960 -> 23:44.800] Is this the type of like way you want teams to be coming in?
[23:44.800 -> 23:45.480] Every time we talk about this, we land on more is not always better. even feasible? Is this possible? Is this the type of like way you want teams to be coming in?
[23:45.480 -> 23:49.720] Every time we talk about this, we land on more is not always better. I don't need more
[23:49.720 -> 23:56.920] teams to watch more teams go slow. Like we have 10 teams, and nine of them can't be fast
[23:56.920 -> 24:06.160] enough to compete with Red Bull on a weekend. I don't think more teams in the back of the grid will solve that problem. I don't
[24:06.160 -> 24:12.080] foresee that improving the product. So it all comes down to
[24:12.240 -> 24:16.940] so like as a fan, I don't know if like I do want, I do want
[24:16.940 -> 24:22.040] more driver opportunities. So I understand that. But I don't
[24:22.040 -> 24:24.560] want more uncompetitive teams.
[24:24.000 -> 24:30.500] But I don't want more uncompetitive teams. So my brain just started laughing at like trying to process how much
[24:30.500 -> 24:34.900] buying in like coming in with a brand-new team would cost to not
[24:34.900 -> 24:37.400] only literally exist but to be competitive.
[24:37.400 -> 24:42.100] It's impossible.
[24:42.100 -> 24:55.000] I always say like until we have 10 reasonably competitive teams, until we have one team competing with Red Bull, I don't want to hear about 12, 13, 14 teams on the grid.
[24:55.000 -> 25:05.720] I don't care. I just want 10 competitive ones. To me, this doesn't see an improvement in the product as a fan. And then you and I also come from this
[25:05.720 -> 25:07.620] from a business perspective part of our brain,
[25:07.620 -> 25:11.100] which is why it's interesting when, you know,
[25:11.100 -> 25:14.200] Stefano DiMincale, who's the CEO of F1,
[25:14.200 -> 25:17.240] what conveniently right before this was announced
[25:17.240 -> 25:21.720] did a big interview on the Beyond the Grid podcast,
[25:21.720 -> 25:23.420] which is an F1 podcast.
[25:23.420 -> 25:27.200] So he essentially went on his own company's podcast
[25:27.200 -> 25:32.720] and he talked about how they are working with the FIA like they're supposed to on whether or not to
[25:32.720 -> 25:48.000] expand the grid, but he was like that entry fee is going to be enormous to do this. And I completely understand why, because his job as the CEO of F1 is to sell this product.
[25:48.000 -> 25:53.000] And I don't think more teams are going to help him sell the product.
[25:53.000 -> 25:57.000] It's not like their broadcasting deals are going to get larger.
[25:57.000 -> 26:07.000] More teams doesn't mean they can increase ticket prices more than they already have to go to a Grand Prix. Like every single revenue stream that comes back into the teams,
[26:07.000 -> 26:11.000] I don't see any of them getting larger just with the grid getting larger.
[26:11.000 -> 26:15.000] Yeah, I felt a lot of relief hearing him explicitly say,
[26:15.000 -> 26:20.000] like, I don't think racing would be better with 20 cars on the grid.
[26:20.000 -> 26:23.000] Like, I don't, and it's like, oh, thank goodness.
[26:23.000 -> 26:25.360] Like, it's not, because I feel like it would be very easy
[26:25.360 -> 26:27.080] for someone in a position like that,
[26:27.080 -> 26:29.360] especially with this unbelievable boom that's happening,
[26:29.360 -> 26:31.680] to just be like, let's flood it, flood it, let's,
[26:31.680 -> 26:34.520] but with his history in the sport and understanding of it,
[26:34.520 -> 26:37.560] and I think like understanding that piece of the quality
[26:37.560 -> 26:42.560] and the clear evidence of the gap amongst all of the teams,
[26:42.560 -> 26:47.840] AKA one and nine, needing to be fixed before adding any
[26:47.840 -> 26:52.160] additional. Just that's the that's the right answer. That's the common sense there, not the
[26:52.160 -> 26:56.640] cash grab. Like none of this is me complaining that Red Bull is dominant. It's more just me
[26:56.640 -> 27:02.320] saying more throwing more at the the quote unquote problem that Red Bull is dominant doesn't make it
[27:02.320 -> 27:09.540] any different. Like inexperienced engineering teams will not all of a sudden be better than Mercedes.
[27:09.960 -> 27:11.100] Like, that's not.
[27:11.260 -> 27:13.020] And why are they also dominant?
[27:13.220 -> 27:16.700] Oh, because they spent so much money that they spent more money
[27:16.700 -> 27:17.640] than they should have spent.
[27:17.640 -> 27:18.460] Why money?
[27:18.460 -> 27:23.020] Oh, because it costs money to have a good car.
[27:26.440 -> 27:30.600] Yeah, no, but I do think we're gonna get more new teams, but I
[27:30.600 -> 27:34.720] think they're gonna come at a price similar to the what we
[27:34.720 -> 27:38.560] just saw is the value of Valpean. Do you know any
[27:38.560 -> 27:39.400] billionaires?
[27:40.840 -> 27:41.240] No.
[27:41.240 -> 27:42.240] You wanna buy an F1 team?
[27:42.440 -> 27:44.040] I would love to I cannot.
[27:51.440 -> 27:55.680] Hey, podcast listeners. Gossip Grid here, your guide to F1's paddock elites. Hello everyone, welcome back to Gossip Grid for all things F1 and pop culture.
[27:55.680 -> 27:59.500] And this is a gossip grid that has come unbelievably full circle for me.
[27:59.500 -> 28:03.600] So today I have to start Gossip Grid with a very special question from Ms. Serena Van
[28:03.600 -> 28:05.760] Der Woodsen, the Blake Lively.
[28:05.760 -> 28:07.680] When are we seeing you on the grid?
[28:07.680 -> 28:10.760] Because the paddock fits are going to serve so hard.
[28:10.760 -> 28:13.600] Just my PSA, have to start Gossip Grid that way.
[28:13.600 -> 28:16.960] We have a little bit of a week off, so drivers have a little bit more free time, so a lot
[28:16.960 -> 28:19.080] of them headed to Paris for Fashion Week.
[28:19.080 -> 28:22.960] So Pierre was attending a Louis Vuitton fashion show and was sporting some really interesting
[28:22.960 -> 28:23.960] denim jorts.
[28:23.960 -> 28:28.600] He sat next to English soccer player Marcus Rashford and June Ambrose, who's the
[28:28.600 -> 28:33.280] creative director of the women's basketball for Puma, and she also designed the line for
[28:33.280 -> 28:37.400] Puma and Ferrari. Then, after all that, Jean-Pierre went to go see Coldplay and he really loves
[28:37.400 -> 28:45.280] the song Paradise. Go check out the video, somewhere on the internet internet he goes hard to paradise. Joe was that.
[28:46.640 -> 28:47.800] I don't know if you have something to say, I'm sorry.
[28:47.800 -> 28:50.160] I'm just like, no I'm actually good.
[28:50.160 -> 28:52.400] Joe, our favorite Dior brand ambassador
[28:52.400 -> 28:54.100] was spotted front row seats at their show
[28:54.100 -> 28:55.120] for Paris Fashion Week.
[28:55.120 -> 28:57.520] He somehow makes an outfit composed of white pants,
[28:57.520 -> 28:59.520] a blue and white striped shirt, and a green vest look.
[28:59.520 -> 29:01.020] None of that sounds like it should make sense
[29:01.020 -> 29:03.560] or even sound attractive.
[29:03.560 -> 29:06.400] And he pulls it off and it was absolutely incredible.
[29:06.400 -> 29:08.400] But it would not be any fashion week
[29:08.400 -> 29:10.880] if we did not talk about Mr. Sir Louis Hamilton,
[29:10.880 -> 29:12.560] who was also at the same Louis Vuitton show
[29:12.560 -> 29:13.980] that Pierre went to as well.
[29:13.980 -> 29:15.800] It was Pharrell's first show as creative director
[29:15.800 -> 29:18.560] of the menswear line, so really big to have a lot
[29:18.560 -> 29:21.120] of big names and celebrity faces were showing up there.
[29:21.120 -> 29:23.200] Louis' outfit was this beautiful, minimalistic,
[29:23.200 -> 29:25.360] all black look with this stunning Louis Vuitton
[29:25.360 -> 29:30.480] Damir jacket and also he's really leaning into the men with pearl necklaces on trend and I fully
[29:30.480 -> 29:34.080] support it. I absolutely love it. Lewis was spotted chatting with a whole bunch of different celebrities
[29:34.080 -> 29:37.440] but one that particularly caught the attention of a lot of fans online was him chit-chatting with
[29:37.440 -> 29:41.520] Kim Kardashian. We've heard a lot about the Drake curse but now there's a sudden rumor about
[29:41.520 -> 29:47.160] the Kim Kardashian curse. So a couple weeks ago she was sporting an Arsenal jersey at the Emirates Stadium
[29:47.160 -> 29:50.520] during a match and they ended up losing the league title to Manchester City so
[29:50.520 -> 29:53.080] every single fan is freaking out telling Lewis that he has to stay away if he
[29:53.080 -> 29:57.640] wants to continue winning world titles so just an alarm to all athletes out
[29:57.640 -> 30:00.840] there that the Kardashians may have a curse there. Then Lewis was spotted at
[30:00.840 -> 30:03.840] another fashion show at the Wells Bonner fashion show and hung out with Jalen
[30:03.840 -> 30:08.640] Brown of the Boston Celtics. Thank you GQ Sports for being my go-to of finding what everything and everywhere F1
[30:08.640 -> 30:10.320] drivers are doing in their off weeks.
[30:10.320 -> 30:14.360] Beautiful beige double-breasted suit, beige pants, beige shoes, monochromatic vibes, absolutely
[30:14.360 -> 30:15.360] incredible.
[30:15.360 -> 30:17.360] And the Lewis show is not over because it never is.
[30:17.360 -> 30:19.160] It's his world and we're just living in it.
[30:19.160 -> 30:23.400] So British rapper Stormzy released a music video for his new song Longevity Flow and
[30:23.400 -> 30:27.000] right around the one minute mark you will see the one and only Sir Lewis Hamilton looking like he's giving
[30:27.000 -> 30:32.240] Stormzy basically a private tour or some kind of like escorting him around multiple old
[30:32.240 -> 30:34.440] Mercedes F1 cars.
[30:34.440 -> 30:37.560] If you blink you'll miss it but again go check it out in his new music video it's at around
[30:37.560 -> 30:38.860] 59 seconds.
[30:38.860 -> 30:42.160] So if all of the fun in music videos and in Paris wasn't enough for Lewis on his week
[30:42.160 -> 30:46.160] off he went to Glastonbury, took a helicopter straight to the stage, watched Elton John perform
[30:46.160 -> 30:49.720] backstage with Canadian filmmaker and Elton John's husband David Furnish
[30:49.720 -> 30:54.120] was also seen in the same VIP backstage spot with Andrew Garfield, Aaron
[30:54.120 -> 30:56.640] Taylor-Johnson, everyone was at Glastonbury this weekend. Elton John's
[30:56.640 -> 30:59.560] performance was very anticipated and potentially one of their biggest
[30:59.560 -> 31:04.000] performances ever for the festival. Today Ice-T made it
[31:04.000 -> 31:06.520] very clear that after he was on the Drink Champagne's podcast,
[31:06.520 -> 31:09.800] rocking a Mercedes F1 jersey, he received a lot of buzz of people wondering,
[31:09.800 -> 31:10.920] is he a Lewis Hamilton fan?
[31:10.920 -> 31:13.160] He wanted to put all of the questions to rest and
[31:13.160 -> 31:15.840] immediately confirm that he is a longtime Lewis Hamilton fan by tweeting
[31:15.840 -> 31:17.400] a throwback picture of him and Lewis.
[31:17.400 -> 31:19.520] And like, Lewis could be 14 in that photo.
[31:19.520 -> 31:21.400] I mean, he's definitely probably already won at least one or
[31:21.400 -> 31:23.400] two world championship titles by that time.
[31:23.400 -> 31:24.920] But he definitely looks very, very young.
[31:24.920 -> 31:25.120] It's not a recent photo. So shout out to Ice-T for being a longtime fan. probably already won at least one or two world championship titles by that time, but he definitely looks very, very young.
[31:25.120 -> 31:27.720] It's not a recent photo, so shout out to Ice-T for being a long-time fan.
[31:27.720 -> 31:32.500] It was pre-Lewis Hamilton with a stylist and a good haircut, because it was definitely
[31:32.500 -> 31:38.240] McLaren times where they made him have a buzz cut, and the baggy cargo shorts were definitely
[31:38.240 -> 31:39.240] giving 2000s.
[31:39.240 -> 31:43.560] Yeah, there's a lot of screaming early 2000s.
[31:43.560 -> 31:47.440] It kind of looks like Lewis Hamilton cosplaying as Adam Sandler.
[31:47.440 -> 31:49.160] Like, that is what it's very much like.
[31:49.160 -> 31:53.960] It's my favorite era to look at of Lewis Hamilton photos, because if you told that kid that
[31:53.960 -> 31:57.600] he would look like this now, he'd probably be like, oh, no, racing.
[31:57.600 -> 31:58.600] And I'm like, oh, this.
[31:58.600 -> 31:59.600] Yeah, yeah.
[31:59.600 -> 32:02.040] Like, the, oh, I love the evolution of Lewis Hamilton.
[32:02.040 -> 32:05.880] So it was a really great way to just kind of prove a long time fan, been here forever, supporting the GOAT.
[32:05.880 -> 32:07.640] Obviously not even in Washington.
[32:07.640 -> 32:09.560] So that's a lot of, that's basically everything I have
[32:09.560 -> 32:11.840] for today's Gossip Grid, a big time Lewis Hamilton show
[32:11.840 -> 32:12.800] this week, but that's always funny
[32:12.800 -> 32:13.680] because we have a lot to talk about.
[32:13.680 -> 32:15.320] But I do have one more big question
[32:15.320 -> 32:17.440] to wrap up this Gossip Grid, because it's been lingering
[32:17.440 -> 32:19.680] in my mind ever since the Alpine announcement.
[32:19.680 -> 32:22.640] So Esty Besty, you've given us a Spider-Man helmet.
[32:22.640 -> 32:24.720] Are you gonna have a Deadpool helmet now?
[32:24.720 -> 32:27.600] I can't believe we're already talking about Silly Season.
[32:27.600 -> 32:30.440] I mean, I can, because the sport is the silliest thing ever,
[32:30.440 -> 32:31.760] and I feel like every season is,
[32:31.760 -> 32:34.440] like, just, Silly Season should just be the F1 calendar.
[32:34.440 -> 32:36.480] Not when they're not racing.
[32:38.120 -> 32:41.120] It also just, I thought it would start sooner.
[32:41.120 -> 32:42.720] It's the end of June, and this is the first time
[32:42.720 -> 32:44.120] we really felt like we needed to put, like,
[32:44.120 -> 32:48.000] a driver movement Silly Season topic on the show rundown, which is...
[32:48.000 -> 32:51.000] Somehow feels late, but also way too early.
[32:51.000 -> 32:59.000] Yeah, I think it feels... Part of me feels like it's been just enough time for people to see what's happening with Red Bull.
[32:59.000 -> 33:06.200] It's just enough time to see who right behind Red Bull is catching up, like we're already seeing with some like B-spec upgrades and like legitimate upgrades that like could be something.
[33:06.200 -> 33:09.720] And then beginning to see like consistent difference
[33:09.720 -> 33:12.240] in driver performance or like teammate performances.
[33:12.240 -> 33:14.240] And then like that, it just so naturally sparks
[33:14.240 -> 33:16.280] conversation just because people can see numbers of like,
[33:16.280 -> 33:18.600] okay, if you guys have that car,
[33:18.600 -> 33:21.360] why are you not like holding hands across the finish line?
[33:21.360 -> 33:22.840] Which it's more complex than that,
[33:22.840 -> 33:25.520] but it feels like there's
[33:25.520 -> 33:30.160] just been enough data that can spark the conversation. Yeah, there's enough data mixed
[33:30.160 -> 33:36.000] with a heat bend with no racing and people needing to fill headlines, so I have six headlines to run
[33:36.000 -> 33:40.400] through with you right now, because somehow there are six things and most of them are Red Bull,
[33:40.400 -> 33:44.160] because of course most of them are Red Bull related. Let's start with Ferrari. There have
[33:44.160 -> 33:48.100] been rumors about Charles and Carlos are in various stages of discussions for extensions.
[33:48.100 -> 33:51.560] They're both signed on through next season, through the 2024 season.
[33:51.560 -> 33:55.900] But it seems like according to where you look, and just remember that like a lot of the Italian
[33:55.900 -> 33:58.240] media is kind of like reading the Daily Mail.
[33:58.240 -> 34:00.600] So what are your thoughts?
[34:00.600 -> 34:05.760] Do you think both one, both one or neither will sign an extension in the next couple months like
[34:05.760 -> 34:13.520] we're hearing? I feel that they will both end up signing extensions. I don't necessarily believe
[34:13.520 -> 34:18.800] that they will both be signed before the end of this season. I can very much see it going into
[34:18.800 -> 34:23.520] next year and both or one. And I honestly don't necessarily have, I mean if I were to pick one
[34:23.520 -> 34:27.260] that they're going to like extend, no I honestly I feel like it would be I just think
[34:27.260 -> 34:29.960] they're gonna end up with extending I just feel like it could just be like
[34:29.960 -> 34:34.300] start of next year like we see promise and this is their announcement they need
[34:34.300 -> 34:37.960] some kind of like hope of extension I feel like the way that the season's
[34:37.960 -> 34:41.060] going and this is me assuming that the vibes are not gonna change at Ferrari by
[34:41.060 -> 34:44.020] the end of the season people are not assumption people are not gonna want
[34:44.020 -> 34:46.640] that like positive news of your two
[34:46.640 -> 34:49.100] drivers that you don't really feel like are performing when
[34:49.100 -> 34:51.100] I don't necessarily think it's their fault
[34:51.100 -> 34:51.820] are sticking around.
[34:51.820 -> 34:53.560] And then it could be like a Ferrari fever
[34:53.560 -> 34:56.380] dream next year of extension, hope, it's here.
[34:56.380 -> 34:58.020] And then it all happens all over again.
[34:58.020 -> 35:01.580] I think that if I was Ferrari, I would not
[35:01.580 -> 35:04.120] announce anything until I have both of them to announce.
[35:04.120 -> 35:05.560] And I would announce both of them to announce, and I would announce
[35:05.560 -> 35:09.640] both of them in like a dead period on the calendar at some point.
[35:09.640 -> 35:12.640] Like I would definitely not do it around race time, and I would announce both of them at
[35:12.640 -> 35:13.640] the same time.
[35:13.640 -> 35:16.040] Because I do think they're both going to get extensions, and nothing would be worse than
[35:16.040 -> 35:19.520] announcing a Carlos Sainz extension and not a Charles or vice versa.
[35:19.520 -> 35:22.120] Just sign both of them, and then announce it at the same time.
[35:22.120 -> 35:25.280] I do think it would be smart for Ferrari to
[35:29.040 -> 35:32.320] lock both of them down in the sense that, like, just remove any conversation. Like, there's enough chaos going around Ferrari. If you can, like, say both of our drivers are here
[35:32.320 -> 35:36.320] through 2025, that would just, like, people would stop talking about, like, one of the things.
[35:37.040 -> 35:41.680] Maybe. But would they? No, they wouldn't. Instead of my Daniels with car owners,
[35:41.680 -> 35:45.440] will they really talk about anything in terms of extension?
[35:45.440 -> 35:46.960] OK, we can't get to that topic yet.
[35:46.960 -> 35:48.360] No, no, no, no, no, but I don't even
[35:48.360 -> 35:49.600] mean in what's currently happening now,
[35:49.600 -> 35:51.040] of just a flashback of last year,
[35:51.040 -> 35:52.640] or just how many instances do we see,
[35:52.640 -> 35:54.040] like, oh, your contracts were this long,
[35:54.040 -> 35:54.640] and this is where it is.
[35:54.640 -> 35:56.200] Contracts are real in F1.
[35:56.200 -> 35:57.760] I'm agreeing with you on everywhere that you said,
[35:57.760 -> 35:59.080] it would be smart for a Ferrari.
[35:59.080 -> 36:00.160] And that's when also my brain says,
[36:00.160 -> 36:01.960] so they're probably not going to do that.
[36:01.960 -> 36:03.120] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[36:03.120 -> 36:06.080] Another subtle topic before we get to Red Bull Chaos.
[36:06.080 -> 36:08.360] Apparently, Louis' contract is signed
[36:08.360 -> 36:09.860] and will be announced at Silverstone.
[36:09.860 -> 36:11.960] I've been saying all season that we're
[36:11.960 -> 36:13.480] going to get the announcement because the home Grand Prix
[36:13.480 -> 36:14.120] is going to be a big deal.
[36:14.120 -> 36:15.580] And I've wanted them to do it sooner
[36:15.580 -> 36:17.800] to quell my personal anxieties about all of this.
[36:17.800 -> 36:19.040] But do you think we're going to get
[36:19.040 -> 36:20.280] the announcement in two weeks?
[36:20.280 -> 36:21.320] 100%.
[36:21.320 -> 36:22.320] That is where my gut is.
[36:22.320 -> 36:23.360] That's what I feel.
[36:23.360 -> 36:25.840] And I think for anything, if the team is like,
[36:25.840 -> 36:29.360] aka Toto or any other quotes, but last week we were talking specifically about like different
[36:29.360 -> 36:33.760] quotes we were hearing from Toto of Hope about Silverstone and upgrades, I think it's a good
[36:33.760 -> 36:38.560] way to spend like no matter what comes out of Silverstone, having Lewis as an extended contract
[36:38.560 -> 36:45.720] anyway, that's a plus. We have to get to all the Red Bull things. I'm gonna bookend this with Daniel Riccardo
[36:45.720 -> 36:50.440] because that's a lot to unpack. But we'll start with, it seems like everyone and their
[36:50.440 -> 36:54.900] mother is in line for the Alpha Tauri seat that doesn't currently exist but kind of exists.
[36:54.900 -> 36:57.760] So you can't talk about the Alpha Tauri seat without talking about the Red Bull seat. So
[36:57.760 -> 37:01.800] I'm gonna try to sum this up all together. So it seems like Chuck goes out at the end
[37:01.800 -> 37:05.700] of this year, even if he's not out during this year. Of course, Red Bull can get impatient and kick him out now.
[37:06.140 -> 37:08.120] Everyone keeps saying that Yuki's in line for that seat,
[37:08.120 -> 37:11.840] but Yuki has come out and made a quote that he's just looking to step up to a better team.
[37:12.600 -> 37:14.600] Just that, that's it. Just a better team.
[37:15.200 -> 37:20.280] Honda is going to, Aston Martin is going to be a Honda's works team, and Honda's always made it very clear that they want
[37:20.280 -> 37:23.000] Yuki in a seat, which is why he is in the Red Bull family.
[37:23.560 -> 37:29.000] So Checo might be out, Yuki might be in that seat, therefore there might be two Alphatari seats, but all
[37:29.000 -> 37:32.640] of that is because it's pretty much known now that Nick is going to lose his seat, even
[37:32.640 -> 37:36.040] it's like the unspoken, spoken truth, like we all just act like it's going to happen,
[37:36.040 -> 37:39.000] which makes me really sad. So, who's going to be in the Alphatari seat? Is it going to
[37:39.000 -> 37:43.600] be super fast IndyCar driver Alex Polo, who's publicly said that he requested a meeting
[37:43.600 -> 37:48.140] with Helmut Marko because he wants to be in F1? Is it going to be Liam Lawson, who's the like Red Bull
[37:48.140 -> 37:54.040] Junior driver they seem to just like have there and not want to drive in F1 ever? Or
[37:54.040 -> 37:59.880] is it going to be Mr. Daniel Ricciardo, who it was announced this, we already knew this,
[37:59.880 -> 38:02.980] but it was reconfirmed this week that he's going to be doing one of the Pirelli tire
[38:02.980 -> 38:08.320] testing for Red Bull. And Christian Warner has said that is to evaluate whether or not he can
[38:08.320 -> 38:12.200] drive a car, essentially. And Daniel Ricciardo has said that he's willing to take an Alfa
[38:12.200 -> 38:17.200] Tauri seat to work back up to the Red Bull team. I just threw a ton of information out.
[38:17.200 -> 38:21.600] Nicole, there are three, there's always three non-Max Verstappen Red Bull seats open. Who
[38:21.600 -> 38:25.840] do you foresee as their 2024 lineup as we're talking June 27th,
[38:25.840 -> 38:30.640] 2023? Actually, how about this? Who do you foresee at this point and then who do you want? And I
[38:30.640 -> 38:39.120] think we should both give some Red Bull lineups. Oh my gosh. Okay. Where to begin with? That's a
[38:39.120 -> 38:44.480] lot to unpack right now. It's not emotional for you at all. No, definitely not at all. And I'm
[38:44.480 -> 38:45.120] really struggling
[38:45.120 -> 38:49.520] with being the Nicole Katz Daniel Riccardo fan that's trying her best not to process any of this
[38:49.520 -> 38:53.440] information until an announcement is made. And Nicole Katz that hosts an F1 podcast where she
[38:53.440 -> 38:57.600] has to have legitimate conversations about the things that are happening in the news. So we're
[38:57.600 -> 39:08.840] gonna start with talking about Nick DeVries. You see why I like all these headlines, like I can't talk, it's so hard to discuss anything
[39:08.840 -> 39:12.600] about Red Bull without all of them being interconnected.
[39:12.600 -> 39:15.940] Because Red Bull has four seats and they all work together and whether Yuki gets moved
[39:15.940 -> 39:18.840] up to the top team and what do they do with Chico and what do they do with Nick DeVries,
[39:18.840 -> 39:21.720] like all of it is just like mush.
[39:21.720 -> 39:24.800] Red Bull's unhappy with all of their drivers that are not named Max Verstappen could be
[39:24.800 -> 39:26.440] the title of this segment.
[39:26.440 -> 39:32.520] Yes, yes. I feel very sorry for Nick. It feels like it was like the easiest, it seems to
[39:32.520 -> 39:37.000] be just like the easiest not decision decision. And all of like the Helmut Marko quotes, I
[39:37.000 -> 39:40.200] mean, I feel like it's very rare that I read one that doesn't give me like a, oh, this
[39:40.200 -> 39:41.200] feels like bullying.
[39:41.200 -> 39:42.200] Don't listen to Voldemort.
[39:42.200 -> 39:43.200] I know, I know.
[39:43.200 -> 39:44.840] Of them, we have.
[39:44.840 -> 39:50.000] Sometimes he slithers through my Twitter timeline. And I'm just like, don't talk about Nick that
[39:50.000 -> 39:55.200] way. I can't. But yeah, it's incredible the amount of hope last year. He's everyone's
[39:55.200 -> 39:59.960] team. He's everywhere. And now he's potentially going to be nowhere.
[39:59.960 -> 40:04.760] The signing, even at the time, felt very much like Red Bull trying to get one over on Mercedes
[40:04.760 -> 40:09.280] than them actually wanting Nick DeVries. And to your point, I just I feel bad for him as a human,
[40:09.280 -> 40:13.040] like who like this was his dream. He wanted this seat finally. He thought he was making a good
[40:13.040 -> 40:20.160] choice. Like I feel bad. Yeah, it's just I think gonna be a really short-lived dream for him,
[40:20.160 -> 40:25.480] at least for right now. And then who knows how things will shuffle and open up.
[40:25.480 -> 40:29.320] I don't foresee any removal of Checo during the season.
[40:29.320 -> 40:33.320] I don't, I think that is a PR nightmare coming from Red Bull.
[40:33.320 -> 40:36.840] Not that they haven't done it in the past, I just particularly think Checo fan base is
[40:36.840 -> 40:38.840] different than other drivers this has occurred with.
[40:38.840 -> 40:42.640] Yeah, than like drivers at the beginning of their career that they shuffled around, yeah.
[40:42.640 -> 40:48.200] I think that if any team on the grid is able to put some pressure on Red Bull, I think
[40:48.200 -> 40:49.200] they would make a change.
[40:49.200 -> 40:54.320] Especially if, let's say in their brains, they've slotted in Yuki for the seat next
[40:54.320 -> 40:59.760] year and it would be easy for them to just put Yuki in the seat this year, and another
[40:59.760 -> 41:03.920] team is putting some kind of pressure on Red Bull, I could see maybe.
[41:03.920 -> 41:05.120] Red Bull released a video,
[41:05.680 -> 41:11.040] I believe today, it might have been yesterday, of Yuki and Max driving like mega monster trucks,
[41:11.040 -> 41:16.960] and it is the most wild pairing of people I've ever seen participate in any activity ever.
[41:16.960 -> 41:21.760] And all I talked about this last week! Like, it is, right, it is like, I just love the opening
[41:21.760 -> 41:28.480] up like, I'm with the shortest F1 driver on the grid. I'm just like, this in a garage would be kind of crazy and in a fun way.
[41:28.480 -> 41:29.480] Right.
[41:29.480 -> 41:30.480] But I also like chaos.
[41:30.480 -> 41:31.480] Okay.
[41:31.480 -> 41:35.160] So I do want to say, and again, this is now where I'm getting to the Daniel Ricciardo
[41:35.160 -> 41:38.720] of it all, because I know this is, I need to formulate real thoughts and acknowledge
[41:38.720 -> 41:40.200] that this is real.
[41:40.200 -> 41:43.800] So me not processing it as a fan until it's news and wanting to be a good podcast host
[41:43.800 -> 41:46.160] and coming to terms that I don't think he will be in the Red Bull seat. I don't. But I want you to process it as a fan until it's news and wanting to be a good podcast host, I'm coming to terms that I don't think he will be in the Red Bull seat.
[41:46.160 -> 41:46.400] I don't.
[41:46.400 -> 41:48.800] But I want you to process it as a fan. It's much better content.
[41:49.840 -> 41:53.520] He's gonna be in the Red Bull seat and he's gonna fight Max and he's gonna become...
[41:53.520 -> 41:54.560] Yeah, no, I'm not...
[41:54.560 -> 41:57.840] You don't actually feel that way. But I actually want to know, as someone who is
[41:57.840 -> 42:01.520] a diehard Daniel Ricciardo fan, would you want him in that Al-Fatahri seat?
[42:01.520 -> 42:06.680] Like, if you were putting together... Yes, they're not gonna put him straight in the Red Bull seat. But if you were formulating an Al-Fatahri seat? If you were putting together... Yes, they're not going to put him straight in the Red Bull seat, but if you were formulating
[42:06.680 -> 42:10.840] an Al-Fatahri lineup for next year, would you hope he was in it?
[42:10.840 -> 42:15.040] Is there a desire to see him racing on the grid again in that car?
[42:15.040 -> 42:16.040] I...
[42:16.040 -> 42:17.080] See, that's the caveat, is in that car.
[42:17.080 -> 42:21.840] Just because right now, I think, God, just listening to Nick and Yuki driving that Al-Fatahri
[42:21.840 -> 42:24.880] car right now just sounds like you're making someone drive a brick.
[42:24.880 -> 42:28.520] It sounds painful, it sounds impossible, it sounds frustrating, and it's no surprise that
[42:28.520 -> 42:31.720] that's not where the eyes of Red Bull go or looking to be...
[42:31.720 -> 42:34.400] Look, Alfatari is not...
[42:34.400 -> 42:35.400] It's just there.
[42:35.400 -> 42:39.800] It is Red Bull's sister team that they just use to form and make their drivers sometimes
[42:39.800 -> 42:40.800] maybe...
[42:40.800 -> 42:42.360] It depends.
[42:42.360 -> 42:46.740] It is not the place for Daniel Ricciardo, in my opinion, but if the
[42:46.740 -> 42:50.760] way that this is all shuffling and who I am as a Daniel Ricciardo fan – put him there
[42:50.760 -> 42:55.260] for a year because I want some fun back. That is my so-not-serious, I-don't-think-it'll-be-good-for-his-career
[42:55.260 -> 42:58.100] move unless it eventually somehow put him back in the Red Bull seat, which I don't
[42:58.100 -> 43:01.740] think would necessarily make him competitive to Max. I think it would still be just a second
[43:01.740 -> 43:06.320] to Max, but that would be – again, I'm not even foreseeing him in that seat at all.
[43:06.320 -> 43:11.280] So in my brain it's either the Alvatare seat or nowhere else, and I just foresee him being
[43:11.280 -> 43:13.080] back on the grid, but incredibly frustrated.
[43:13.080 -> 43:17.720] Well, I mean, because I'm asking, and I wanted to know your perspective as a fan, because
[43:17.720 -> 43:22.000] as a non-Daniel Ricciardo fan, I don't feel any desire for him to be back on the grid.
[43:22.000 -> 43:23.000] That doesn't interest me.
[43:23.000 -> 43:25.200] Even in the Red Bull seat, I just don't care.
[43:25.200 -> 43:31.760] But I want to hear your perspective, because, like, you last year, you were so sad when
[43:31.760 -> 43:33.240] he didn't have a drive for this year.
[43:33.240 -> 43:37.720] So that's why it's actually really surprising for me to hear how subdued and not...
[43:37.720 -> 43:42.280] I mean, there's withholding excitement, but there's also, like, I know you decently well,
[43:42.280 -> 43:46.520] this is not just you withholding excitement, this is you kind, kinda not being excited at the prospect of Daniel Ricciardo being
[43:46.520 -> 43:47.520] in the Alpha Tauri.
[43:47.520 -> 43:49.440] GENESIS This is where I make the comparison come fully
[43:49.440 -> 43:52.220] well you'll understand where my brain is coming from.
[43:52.220 -> 43:54.120] I love the album 1989.
[43:54.120 -> 43:58.040] Taylor Swift had horrendous mental health during the era of 1989, so it puts a bad taste
[43:58.040 -> 43:59.040] in my mouth.
[43:59.040 -> 44:03.160] Daniel Ricciardo, being on the grid but in a car that underperforms, causing him unbelievable
[44:03.160 -> 44:05.620] mental health issues and frustration, I don't want to see again.
[44:05.620 -> 44:08.420] Especially now seeing him being very happy and the endeavors,
[44:08.420 -> 44:10.860] seemingly looks very happy in what he's pursuing and doing.
[44:10.860 -> 44:12.420] And he says he wants to be on the grid,
[44:12.420 -> 44:14.900] but just in comparison of where we've seen him recently
[44:14.900 -> 44:16.660] and compared to now, just emotionally,
[44:16.660 -> 44:18.540] he just seems to be glowing.
[44:18.540 -> 44:21.540] So I, as a Daniel Riccardo fan, am not
[44:21.540 -> 44:24.260] jumping at the idea of him being in a very similar situation
[44:24.260 -> 44:26.640] where you're just like, hey, you're back on the grid, but you're driving a brick.
[44:26.640 -> 44:27.120] You're driving a tractor.
[44:27.120 -> 44:27.920] In a worse car.
[44:27.920 -> 44:28.160] Yeah!
[44:28.720 -> 44:32.880] Yeah. I will put the caveat in your brain to ponder on, and then we should move on from
[44:32.880 -> 44:36.800] Daniel Ricciardo specifically, that if he's driving that Avatari, it's because Red Bull
[44:36.800 -> 44:41.360] doesn't think all hope is lost, that he could one day be back in the Red Bull. Which is why
[44:41.360 -> 44:48.400] it's different than the McLaren situation, in my opinion. Like, Red Bull, I don't think will just throw Dayton. Red Bull knows they can have the PR of
[44:48.400 -> 44:52.480] Daniel Ricciardo without having to give him an F1 car. So if they put him in that F1 car, they
[44:52.480 -> 44:56.960] think not all hope is lost. But, you know, they got the Nick DeVries thing wrong, so I'm like, what does Red Bull know?
[44:59.360 -> 45:02.800] Now, if I'm formulating the Red Bull lineup I want for next year,
[45:03.240 -> 45:04.380] formulating the Red Bull lineup I want for next year.
[45:05.760 -> 45:08.200] So this is not logical. This is hopes, dreams, and wants, okay?
[45:09.160 -> 45:11.000] I want Max Verstappen and I want Yuki Tsunoda
[45:11.000 -> 45:12.160] because I want the chaotic duo
[45:12.160 -> 45:13.920] and I think Yuki is driving out of his mind
[45:13.920 -> 45:15.280] and deserves the call up.
[45:16.720 -> 45:19.420] And then I want Alex Polo and Daniel Ricciardo
[45:19.420 -> 45:21.080] in the AlphaTauri.
[45:21.080 -> 45:26.280] Because if Alex Polo, who is an incredible IndyCar driver, wants the F1 drive, I want someone to give him the FTari. Because if Alex Below, who is an incredible IndyCar driver, wants the
[45:26.280 -> 45:30.400] F1 drive, I want someone to give him the F1 drive. And I think if you put him next to
[45:30.400 -> 45:33.720] Daniel Ricciardo and he does well, I think that will bode well for his stock. And we
[45:33.720 -> 45:37.120] get a little bit of Daniel Ricciardo chaos back on the grid, which it is missing. Like,
[45:37.120 -> 45:40.760] I don't think anyone's going to fill that without him. So. And plus it would make you
[45:40.760 -> 45:44.000] really happy. And if we could go through another Daniel Ricciardo season on the pod. Oh my
[45:44.000 -> 45:47.360] gosh. So that's my dream scenario.
[45:47.360 -> 45:48.240] How do you feel?
[45:48.240 -> 45:50.040] Would you sign on to dream scenario?
[45:50.040 -> 45:51.400] I definitely am signing on.
[45:51.400 -> 45:52.720] I wanted to press my, I just feel
[45:52.720 -> 45:55.040] like I need to join in on the, like, I'm sorry, Liam.
[45:55.040 -> 45:56.000] Like, it's going to be.
[45:56.000 -> 45:56.680] Oh, yeah.
[45:56.680 -> 45:57.180] Yeah.
[45:57.180 -> 45:58.880] No, my favorite thing on the internet
[45:58.880 -> 46:00.600] yesterday in the alpineness of it all
[46:00.600 -> 46:01.720] is like, Ryan Reynolds will probably
[46:01.720 -> 46:03.520] end up in a Red Bull seat before Liam does.
[46:03.520 -> 46:08.880] And I could not, I was laughing for so long. So sorry Liam, I do.
[46:08.880 -> 46:12.560] My logical lineup is Liam instead of Daniel Ricciardo. I put Daniel Ricciardo in there
[46:12.560 -> 46:16.960] because I want to watch you, Nicole Katz, get to see Daniel Ricciardo in an Alfatari,
[46:16.960 -> 46:20.320] not because I want to see Daniel Ricciardo in an Alfatari. I think the whole point of
[46:20.320 -> 46:24.480] having a development team is to develop drivers, not to put your old slow drivers, but that's
[46:24.480 -> 46:25.060] okay.
[46:25.060 -> 46:26.060] Whatever.
[46:26.060 -> 46:27.060] Chaos.
[46:27.060 -> 46:28.060] I just love chaos.
[46:28.060 -> 46:29.060] Content.
[46:29.060 -> 46:30.060] You're in for the content.
[46:30.060 -> 46:31.060] Yes!
[46:31.060 -> 46:32.060] Yeah, no, this wasn't...
[46:32.060 -> 46:34.020] Yeah, the logical answer is too easy.
[46:34.020 -> 46:35.020] Wow, that's so funny.
[46:35.020 -> 46:38.780] I know, Yuki deserves the call-up, but I was going to say the logical answer of Yuki in
[46:38.780 -> 46:41.700] that Red Bull seat, that is going to be... would be chaos.
[46:41.700 -> 46:45.640] Look, Red Bull, if you're not going to provide on-track entertainment, I feel like I'm going to say this every week.
[46:45.640 -> 46:47.240] We talked about this in the pod last week.
[46:47.240 -> 46:49.480] Red Bull, if you are not going to give me a second seat that is competitive
[46:49.480 -> 46:52.920] with your first seat, even remotely, even just finishing P2 competitive,
[46:52.920 -> 46:55.400] why don't you call up Yuuki and just give me some chaos and some excitement
[46:55.400 -> 46:56.320] and more content like that?
[46:56.320 -> 46:57.080] Like, come on.
[46:57.080 -> 46:59.640] You, Red Bull, I know you're itching to make an in-season driver change.
[46:59.640 -> 47:01.240] Please.
[47:01.240 -> 47:04.360] I hope that when people ask you about, like, what is it that you like about F1,
[47:04.360 -> 47:07.480] and then you're just like, this, it's just Pirelli tire graphics.
[47:07.480 -> 47:12.560] All right, we're at Red Bull Ring, which is my favorite, least favorite.
[47:12.560 -> 47:15.480] Okay, so I've always really wanted to go to the Red Bull Ring track.
[47:15.480 -> 47:16.480] I think it's beautiful.
[47:16.480 -> 47:20.440] You get great photography, like Carlos Sainz in a field of daisies, sad because his Ferrari's
[47:20.440 -> 47:21.440] on fire.
[47:21.440 -> 47:23.080] Like, it seems like a really cool track.
[47:23.080 -> 47:27.600] But before we break down the Grand Prix and make our predictions and I get to go through the Pirelli tire graphic and all the exciting
[47:27.600 -> 47:31.520] things, I do want to make it known to anyone who's listening to this who is attending,
[47:31.520 -> 47:35.920] I know there is a grid click group chat in a females and motorsports at the Instagram account,
[47:35.920 -> 47:39.680] females at motorsports have both put together great group chats for anyone who is not a straight
[47:39.680 -> 47:43.680] white male who is attending the race this weekend. We have hopes that the organizers did what they
[47:43.680 -> 47:45.960] said and that they're going to make this a much safer, friendlier
[47:45.960 -> 47:48.560] environment for people who are not straight white males.
[47:48.560 -> 47:50.220] But I just, if you hadn't heard, please
[47:50.220 -> 47:53.480] go to the Grid Click account or the Females in Motorsports
[47:53.480 -> 47:54.720] account and join the group chats and make
[47:54.720 -> 47:56.180] sure you have a community of people
[47:56.180 -> 47:57.640] you're going to be there with.
[47:57.640 -> 48:01.360] That is my PSA before we talk about the Austrian GP.
[48:01.360 -> 48:02.560] Anything I missed there?
[48:02.560 -> 48:03.280] No, you nailed it.
[48:03.280 -> 48:05.000] And I want to be like, just don't let people be mean to you,
[48:05.000 -> 48:07.000] but some people are just mean, so good to have a support system there.
[48:07.000 -> 48:11.000] Because last year there was some not very pretty moments.
[48:11.000 -> 48:14.000] So make sure you have a good support system if you're attending, and have fun.
[48:14.000 -> 48:15.000] Yeah.
[48:15.000 -> 48:17.000] And we're heading into the European season, where this really was an issue last year.
[48:17.000 -> 48:20.000] So I know both of those accounts do that at most of these races.
[48:20.000 -> 48:24.000] So if you're going to Spa, for example, I will say the same thing then,
[48:24.000 -> 48:27.960] but I'll say now, like, join the group chat and connect with other people who are there.
[48:27.960 -> 48:34.540] Okay, so moving into previewing the race itself. Nicole, I am devastated that we're supposed
[48:34.540 -> 48:41.440] to have a wet quali again. I just want to be able to evaluate these upgrades. And the
[48:41.440 -> 48:51.120] best way to do that is in qualifying, and we can't do it right now and I'm still frustrated. And it's gonna rain like all weekend. Woo. So before we give our
[48:51.120 -> 48:56.080] predictions, and since we already have it locked in, so we're not given any advantages anywhere,
[48:56.080 -> 48:59.840] we have the Pirelli tire graphic, which is my favorite thing to look at all week. So I will
[48:59.840 -> 49:04.240] point out that this race, if you look at the amazing... Oh, if you're listening, you can head
[49:04.240 -> 49:06.560] over to YouTube, see this, but if not, head to
[49:06.560 -> 49:09.880] Pirelli's Motorsport Twitter, Instagram, etc., any of their social media accounts on their
[49:09.880 -> 49:13.520] website and you can look at this graphic with us.
[49:13.520 -> 49:18.160] But compared to last week, there's a lot more stress on the rear of the car this week.
[49:18.160 -> 49:21.920] And right now, if there's more tire stress, that is bad for Ferrari and bad for Aston,
[49:21.920 -> 49:22.920] better for Mercedes.
[49:22.920 -> 49:29.200] You'll notice I'm not talking about Red Bull because it doesn't matter. The other thing I'll bring up is that this is one of the
[49:29.200 -> 49:34.320] circuits on the calendar that I think has the most, like one of the most collections of different
[49:34.320 -> 49:37.120] types of corners. There's slow speed corners, there are medium speed corners, and there are
[49:37.120 -> 49:42.320] fast corners, and there's also three really long straights. So it's one of those tracks that will
[49:42.320 -> 49:48.440] evaluate overall performance. So you'll see Mercedes probably doing decently well at the fast twisty part of the track,
[49:48.440 -> 49:52.140] which is the end of sector 2 and the beginning of sector 3, and then you'll see Red Bull fast everywhere.
[49:52.140 -> 49:55.640] And you might see, like, a Williams really fast on the three straights.
[49:57.380 -> 50:01.680] It's a really great analysis when I just get to say that you'll just see Red Bull fast everywhere because they're Red Bull.
[50:01.680 -> 50:02.800] They're fast.
[50:02.800 -> 50:04.400] Right.
[50:04.400 -> 50:07.920] It is... I do think people are still
[50:09.120 -> 50:14.240] relatively positive about the Ferrari power unit performance, like the straight lines with the
[50:14.240 -> 50:18.320] right hand turns, like, is something that theoretically should favor Ferrari. So like
[50:18.320 -> 50:22.480] Ferrari did well at Baku. Ferrari's pace, even though they messed up in qualifying, was decent
[50:22.480 -> 50:25.280] last weekend in Canada. So if we're taking Red Bull out of the equation,
[50:25.280 -> 50:27.180] you should see Ferrari decently well,
[50:27.180 -> 50:29.720] like compared to Mercedes with the right hand turns,
[50:29.720 -> 50:30.720] where Mercedes will do much better
[50:30.720 -> 50:32.680] in the flowing bits of it all.
[50:32.680 -> 50:34.680] And it's kind of somewhere between the extremes
[50:34.680 -> 50:36.760] of Ferrari and Mercedes traditionally.
[50:36.760 -> 50:41.240] But this is also the shortest track for time on the calendar
[50:41.240 -> 50:43.220] because it's really just, it's fast.
[50:43.220 -> 50:44.120] It's the fast straights
[50:44.120 -> 50:50.560] and it's the fast corners in the middle. So that's my my I love the Pirelli graphic discussion.
[50:50.560 -> 50:53.760] Did I miss anything Nicole that's worth talking about?
[50:53.760 -> 50:58.840] You nailed it. They really did nail it. It is it'll definitely be an interesting circuit.
[50:58.840 -> 51:10.000] Definitely one of a kind. So I think no rain. No rain, please. No rain, no rain, please no rain! It's gonna rain, unfortunately. We won't be seeing those softs for very long, if at all.
[51:10.000 -> 51:13.240] If this is your first gridwalk, the reason I keep screaming for no rain is because Red
[51:13.240 -> 51:16.040] Bull controls its pace so much in the Grand Prix, because it just needs to go faster than
[51:16.040 -> 51:18.160] everyone else, it doesn't need to go its fastest.
[51:18.160 -> 51:21.120] But in qualifying, we get a preview of how fast the Red Bull is and how close everyone
[51:21.120 -> 51:22.120] is to the Red Bull.
[51:22.120 -> 51:27.600] And if it's rainy and an interrupted crazy session, we don't get that. And I just want to know, are we talking two
[51:27.600 -> 51:31.560] seconds? Are we talking a half a second? Are we talking a couple tenths? How much closer
[51:31.560 -> 51:33.720] do teams get to Red Bull? And we're not going to know if it rants.
[51:33.720 -> 51:37.400] Can you zoom in? What's the lap record? Is that Carlos 2020?
[51:37.400 -> 51:38.400] Yes.
[51:38.400 -> 51:42.080] One minute, five seconds.
[51:42.080 -> 51:48.320] That's scary. That's so scary to think about what the RB19 could do if that was Carlo Sainz three years
[51:48.320 -> 51:49.320] ago.
[51:49.320 -> 51:50.320] Imo McLaren, yeah.
[51:50.320 -> 51:56.080] I believe, I can't remember if this is the qualifying lap record or the in-race lap record,
[51:56.080 -> 51:57.080] but I think it's qualifying.
[51:57.080 -> 52:00.760] Yeah, that would make more sense, but that would be scary to see Red Bull do that in
[52:00.760 -> 52:02.600] qualifying if it was dry.
[52:02.600 -> 52:05.800] Yeah, so it needs to be dry.
[52:05.800 -> 52:08.880] And oh gosh, I want it to be dry.
[52:08.880 -> 52:12.760] But yeah, it's a really short lap, which also means that in qualifying, again, if it's dry,
[52:12.760 -> 52:16.560] that we're going to see like drivers get to do multiple laps.
[52:16.560 -> 52:18.960] It's also so it's also a sprint race this weekend.
[52:18.960 -> 52:24.340] And you know, I don't think the sprint is long enough in order to actually create any
[52:24.340 -> 52:25.360] tire degradation,
[52:25.360 -> 52:30.620] but I'm relatively optimistic at least that Pirelli brought the three softest compounds
[52:30.620 -> 52:33.320] in hopes that maybe some of them degrade during the sprint race.
[52:33.320 -> 52:37.160] And if that is the case, then maybe we'll have, I'm not even gonna put that out there.
[52:37.160 -> 52:40.560] The sprint's gonna be boring, but like we get two qualifying sessions, maybe one of
[52:40.560 -> 52:41.960] the qualifying sessions won't be wet.
[52:41.960 -> 52:44.720] That, you know, we have the sprint shootout and maybe the sprint shootout will come in
[52:44.720 -> 52:45.000] clutch and not be wet, please. Fingers crossed at least one of them pretty please no't be wet. That, you know, we have the sprint shootout and maybe the sprint shootout will come in clutch.
[52:45.000 -> 52:46.000] It'd not be wet, please.
[52:46.000 -> 52:48.000] Fingers crossed at least one of them pretty please no wet.
[52:48.000 -> 52:49.000] Really hope so.
[52:50.000 -> 52:51.000] Let's make some predictions.
[52:51.000 -> 52:53.000] Update on where we are.
[52:53.000 -> 52:57.000] Last week we were both right that Max won and nothing else, but it didn't matter because Alex Albon was P7.
[52:57.000 -> 53:00.000] So I was happily wrong in all of our predictions.
[53:00.000 -> 53:05.880] A reminder that we do predictions, like our season ends at summer break and then we reset
[53:05.880 -> 53:09.880] back to zero, so I think I'm up by about 20 points right now, but we have four races to
[53:09.880 -> 53:10.880] go.
[53:10.880 -> 53:11.880] Is that all?
[53:11.880 -> 53:14.760] I feel like it has to be more, but we'll, sure, we'll take that.
[53:14.760 -> 53:17.880] We also do sprint week picks that are slightly different.
[53:17.880 -> 53:20.360] So we'll start with the sprint because in the weekend is first.
[53:20.360 -> 53:21.360] Yeah.
[53:21.360 -> 53:22.360] Yeah.
[53:22.360 -> 53:23.360] All right.
[53:23.360 -> 53:24.360] So these are a little different than our normal picks.
[53:24.360 -> 53:28.840] We're going to start with what team do you think is going to score the most points during the sprint?
[53:28.840 -> 53:31.800] And spoiler alert, what Nicole and I both did was how low does Checo need to finish
[53:31.800 -> 53:36.080] for the answer to not be Red Bull? So Nicole, did you decide that the answer here is Red
[53:36.080 -> 53:38.840] Bull? Or do you think Checo is going to finish below that threshold?
[53:38.840 -> 53:42.820] I put Aston Martin because what do I have to lose?
[53:42.820 -> 53:45.000] So I also went not with Red Bull because it felt fun,
[53:45.000 -> 53:46.000] but I put Mercedes.
[53:46.000 -> 53:47.000] I knew it, I knew it!
[53:47.000 -> 53:49.000] Yeah, yeah.
[53:49.000 -> 53:51.000] So George Russell, finish above Checo.
[53:51.000 -> 53:53.000] It's really what we're talking about here.
[53:53.000 -> 53:57.000] But in serious analysis, I think of all the top teams,
[53:57.000 -> 54:01.000] and I think Ferrari is the fourth slowest team,
[54:01.000 -> 54:02.000] so I'm not counting them.
[54:02.000 -> 54:03.000] So of the three top performing teams,
[54:03.000 -> 54:09.920] Mercedes duo is collectively performing the best right now. So, But I think Alonso, I don't know, I don't know, but
[54:09.920 -> 54:14.320] I'm glad we both didn't pick Red Bull. No, the PEMDAS that I was doing was doing Aston Martin
[54:14.320 -> 54:20.160] math and Mercedes math and trying to do all of those things. I was like, okay, okay, and then
[54:20.160 -> 54:23.680] just went with Aston. Something different. I don't think I, I don't remember who I picked last time.
[54:23.680 -> 54:25.460] Probably Red Bull. We both picked Red Bull. And Red Bull, so. We picked, we both picked Red Bull.
[54:25.460 -> 54:26.300] We both picked Red Bull, yeah.
[54:26.300 -> 54:28.560] Yeah, and we were both right.
[54:28.560 -> 54:31.320] All right, so then who do we think is going to be the last
[54:31.320 -> 54:33.200] to receive the Goofy Sprint medal?
[54:33.200 -> 54:35.760] So P3 last on the podium.
[54:35.760 -> 54:36.600] Who do you got?
[54:36.600 -> 54:38.040] I have Lewis.
[54:38.040 -> 54:40.680] Oh, I was going back and forth, but I have Alonso.
[54:40.680 -> 54:42.920] Okay, that's very, yeah, that's, that's.
[54:42.920 -> 54:44.720] Which makes sense with our other points,
[54:44.720 -> 54:46.320] because I'm assuming you mentally had Alonso finishing
[54:46.320 -> 54:48.880] P2, which is why you picked Aston Martin for the most points, and I mentally have Lewis
[54:48.880 -> 54:51.480] finishing P2, which is why I have Mercedes for the most points.
[54:51.480 -> 54:52.480] All right, finish this out!
[54:52.480 -> 54:53.480] Math!
[54:53.480 -> 54:54.480] That's what this all is!
[54:54.480 -> 54:59.040] Finishing this out with, who do you think is going to be last in the points for the
[54:59.040 -> 55:01.080] sprint, which is P8?
[55:01.080 -> 55:12.000] So in my P8, I am doing some, I guess you would, driver math that would cause other drivers in the top four to not be there for where I have this because in my P8 I have Esteban.
[55:12.000 -> 55:17.000] God, I do too. Estebesti, yes, I do too!
[55:17.000 -> 55:26.960] God, I thought I was being so like, oh yeah, I'm gonna throw in Esteban because something's gonna happen to someone in the top eight that's that's gonna be fun!
[55:28.640 -> 55:29.360] Mwahahahaha I'm in your head.
[55:34.160 -> 55:38.880] Although I need to have different choices than you to beat you but you know what sometimes- Yeah this is good for me strategy-wise but not as fun for me week-to-week-wise.
[55:38.880 -> 55:42.400] But this is again we did that same math we did the math of if a red bullet falls
[55:42.400 -> 55:44.480] so who do we want to go in that makes sense?
[55:44.480 -> 55:45.080] I mean I think Checo will still be in the points. same math. We did the math of if a red bullet falls, so who do we want to go in? That makes sense.
[55:45.080 -> 55:49.600] I mean, I think Checo will still be in the points. But I think an engine might explode
[55:49.600 -> 55:53.440] or something. I just think it's more likely for something to happen than not. But now
[55:53.440 -> 55:56.400] I'm even saying that out loud, and the sprint isn't long enough for something to happen.
[55:56.400 -> 55:59.280] So but whatever, SC-MSC points, make me happy.
[55:59.280 -> 56:00.280] I agree.
[56:00.280 -> 56:05.480] All right. So Grand Prix predictions, the same ones we normally do. Nicole, did
[56:05.480 -> 56:09.480] you do this big scary thing and pick anyone for P1 not named Max Verstappen?
[56:09.480 -> 56:14.520] Because I don't want to stop your heart like you did to me the last time we did this. No,
[56:14.520 -> 56:18.240] Max is still in my P1. It's been the same typed out Max in all caps since the first
[56:18.240 -> 56:23.220] race on this sheet. I haven't changed it at all. No jokes here.
[56:23.220 -> 56:25.960] Someone needs to prove to me otherwise until I change it.
[56:25.960 -> 56:26.960] Yes.
[56:26.960 -> 56:30.680] So who do you have as you're just missing the podium in P4?
[56:30.680 -> 56:31.680] Checo.
[56:31.680 -> 56:32.680] Okay.
[56:32.680 -> 56:38.760] I think Checo will have a less awful weekend and will end up P4 in the Grand Prix.
[56:38.760 -> 56:39.960] That's my prediction.
[56:39.960 -> 56:40.960] I have Fernando.
[56:40.960 -> 56:41.960] Ooh!
[56:41.960 -> 56:45.520] You got Fernando off the podium.
[56:45.520 -> 56:47.320] I did, and I hope he's too.
[56:47.320 -> 56:48.000] I hope for it.
[56:48.000 -> 56:49.200] Mercedes in front of him.
[56:49.200 -> 56:52.240] But yeah, no, I have him in my P4 of just missing the podium.
[56:52.240 -> 56:55.160] There's just something about it that just feels good when I decide that.
[56:55.160 -> 56:55.660] Yeah.
[56:55.660 -> 56:58.000] All right, what do you have in your P7?
[56:58.000 -> 57:02.360] In my P7, to go off of my P8 continued pick,
[57:02.360 -> 57:07.360] I have Esti Besti finishing P7 in the race. I'm being very optimistic.
[57:07.360 -> 57:11.320] But that's what I'm going with here. Because as I continue with my picks, there is a certain
[57:11.320 -> 57:15.000] team that I am not acknowledging. As I said, I would no longer acknowledge them in my picks.
[57:15.000 -> 57:17.000] So I'm picking Esteban in P7.
[57:17.000 -> 57:21.000] You're not picking Alex Alphon to repeat?
[57:21.000 -> 57:22.000] No.
[57:22.000 -> 57:47.100] I went with Lance. Okay. Yeah, I think I'm gonna always, I will always be rooting for him to be higher. I don't think if there are was literally, I was like, they can't, I'm not going to save them.
[57:48.540 -> 57:49.120] Horses.
[57:49.340 -> 57:49.840] Okay.
[57:51.260 -> 57:56.580] And then we have for P10, last in the points this week, who are you hoping or predicting?
[57:57.340 -> 57:57.520] Okay.
[57:57.520 -> 57:58.520] This one was really hard.
[57:58.860 -> 57:59.360] Yeah.
[57:59.980 -> 58:04.540] And it's really difficult every week, but I think I'm going to go with Alex Albon.
[58:04.820 -> 58:07.280] I also went with Alex Albon.
[58:07.280 -> 58:09.760] Because I don't think what happened last week was a fluke.
[58:09.760 -> 58:11.480] And I think there's three long straights.
[58:11.480 -> 58:14.040] And I think the upgrade did really help.
[58:14.040 -> 58:16.360] But I do think you can pass better here than in Canada.
[58:16.360 -> 58:19.120] I honestly even regret saying it out loud.
[58:19.120 -> 58:19.920] I pick Alex.
[58:19.920 -> 58:22.080] I, again, was going with, then I'll say it,
[58:22.080 -> 58:23.760] I avoided Ferrari like the plague here.
[58:23.760 -> 58:24.840] So I filled in accordingly.
[58:24.840 -> 58:25.900] And I also agree with you,
[58:25.900 -> 58:28.020] I don't think Alex's P7 was a fluke.
[58:28.020 -> 58:30.020] I think, again, it's a testament to what we said
[58:30.020 -> 58:33.220] about his skill as a driver.
[58:33.220 -> 58:34.620] And if he can make some magic happen,
[58:34.620 -> 58:36.260] that magic can get him in the points.
[58:36.260 -> 58:37.500] And this circuit, I think,
[58:37.500 -> 58:40.220] gives him the ability and place to do so.
[58:40.220 -> 58:44.620] And William seems so willing to give him a off strategy
[58:44.620 -> 58:46.080] to try to make something happen,
[58:46.080 -> 58:49.680] which I can't say for a lot of the teams that are fighting for the back of the points there.
[58:49.680 -> 58:52.960] So they're willing to do something bold and it could work out, or it could not, right? Because
[58:52.960 -> 58:57.760] that's what the reality of bold is. I will say that the other driver I had in this position
[58:57.760 -> 59:06.760] was Yuki. Because I think as much as that AlphaTauri is is bad, like Yugi's been able to put in some incredible performances
[59:06.760 -> 59:08.880] and I think Canada was actually more of a fluke
[59:08.880 -> 59:12.480] for Yugi not being in contention for those points there
[59:12.480 -> 59:17.140] than it being a fluke for Williams to be there.
[59:17.140 -> 59:18.920] But that leads into what team do I think
[59:18.920 -> 59:19.960] in the bottom half of the standings
[59:19.960 -> 59:21.280] is gonna score the most points this week?
[59:21.280 -> 59:23.720] And I decided to go with Al-Fatahri.
[59:23.720 -> 59:27.840] Okay, and I decided to go with Williams because I usually like to split.
[59:27.840 -> 59:30.800] It's gonna be McLaren. Yeah it's gonna be McLaren. Because it's the week we didn't pick McLaren.
[59:30.800 -> 59:34.520] And I was really like and every time I'm like I feel like I'm always picking
[59:34.520 -> 59:38.280] Alex in my P10 and then I'll pick McLaren as like and I'll be like one of
[59:38.280 -> 59:41.240] these one of these will hit and make me you know get me points and make me feel
[59:41.240 -> 59:45.480] good or like Alex has points and this time I'm going all in.
[59:45.480 -> 59:47.280] I believe in Alex Albon.
[59:47.280 -> 59:48.320] I believe in Albon Pets.
[59:48.320 -> 59:48.820] I believe.
[59:48.820 -> 59:52.080] It's the end of the show, which means one thing.
[59:52.080 -> 59:53.360] Welcome to Yellow Sector Notes.
[59:53.360 -> 59:55.560] It's not the fastest walk around in F1, but we will complete a full lap
[59:55.560 -> 59:57.880] around the paddock hitting every F1 garage.
[59:57.880 -> 01:00:00.200] Starting with Red Bull, as we often do, Checo
[01:00:00.200 -> 01:00:04.040] will be doing a show run in the RB7 through the streets of Madrid on July 15.
[01:00:04.040 -> 01:00:07.160] Oh, and your friendly reminder that you'll notice my YellowellSector note isn't a lot of those
[01:00:07.160 -> 01:00:10.560] quotes going around, and it's because do not listen to Voldemort.
[01:00:10.560 -> 01:00:14.440] Anything he says is not true, substantiated in any way.
[01:00:14.440 -> 01:00:16.800] When Voldemort says things, we ignore them in one ear out the other.
[01:00:16.800 -> 01:00:17.800] Thank you.
[01:00:17.800 -> 01:00:18.800] So Checo, showrun.
[01:00:18.800 -> 01:00:19.800] Seems really cool.
[01:00:19.800 -> 01:00:20.800] I would love to go to Madrid to see it.
[01:00:20.800 -> 01:00:24.000] Mercedes has hired two prominent engineers from the engines division over at Ferrari
[01:00:24.000 -> 01:00:28.360] that will begin work on their 2026 engine later this year.
[01:00:28.360 -> 01:00:30.360] Lauren Stroll thinks he should be knighted.
[01:00:30.360 -> 01:00:33.160] Ferrari had a filming day this week, and while these days are used for filming, they're also
[01:00:33.160 -> 01:00:36.780] the only allocated track testing time the teams receive, so I'd be interested in what
[01:00:36.780 -> 01:00:39.800] upgrades they tried out on their filming day.
[01:00:39.800 -> 01:00:43.640] Esma Noghan went on vacation with his bestie Mick Schumacher this week.
[01:00:43.640 -> 01:00:48.640] Oscar Piastri played cricket in Australia with the Sky Sports team and you can watch that video on their YouTube channel.
[01:00:48.640 -> 01:00:52.960] That's also from this footage is where I found that Oscar and I have the same favorite food,
[01:00:52.960 -> 01:00:56.880] which if you told me that the Australians' favorite food was also chicken parm, I would be
[01:00:56.880 -> 01:01:03.680] shocked. But it is literally pizza but the crust is chicken so he makes good decisions. I have to
[01:01:03.680 -> 01:01:06.160] tell everyone that in the pre-show when we were like
[01:01:06.160 -> 01:01:10.080] rerunning over this and we were talking about my yellow sector notes for the week I went really
[01:01:10.080 -> 01:01:15.120] chicken parm even though I know this medical and she screamed at me it's pizza but the crust is
[01:01:15.120 -> 01:01:21.600] chicken it is pizza but the crust is chicken we have to release it's a chicken stinger
[01:01:23.360 -> 01:01:26.000] it's fried chicken it's not just chicken it's fried chicken it's a chicken stinger! It's fried chicken, it's not just chicken, it's fried chicken.
[01:01:26.000 -> 01:01:28.000] It's a fried chicken pizza.
[01:01:28.000 -> 01:01:29.000] Anyway.
[01:01:29.000 -> 01:01:32.000] We had to delay the start of this podcast because I was laughing so hard because just starting
[01:01:32.000 -> 01:01:35.000] to post with the whole body just like through the camera I was like screaming.
[01:01:35.000 -> 01:01:36.000] Okay.
[01:01:36.000 -> 01:01:37.000] Not wrong.
[01:01:37.000 -> 01:01:39.000] Nope, no it's not wrong.
[01:01:39.000 -> 01:01:43.000] Williams will have a special 800th GP livery at Silverstone this year.
[01:01:43.000 -> 01:01:48.360] They're going to be celebrating at Silverstone and Hungary, which is their 799th GP and their 800th GP, but they wanted
[01:01:48.360 -> 01:01:51.320] the hometown fans in Silverstone to be able to experience the celebration, even though
[01:01:51.320 -> 01:01:56.880] it is Grand Prix 799. Jensen Button will also be doing show runs at Silverstone in the 1992
[01:01:56.880 -> 01:02:01.680] title-winning FW14B. Williams, please name your cars things that are not a mouthful,
[01:02:01.680 -> 01:02:07.840] but that was really cool. So as a recap, at Silverstone, Williams is going to be celebrating their 800th Grand Prix,
[01:02:07.840 -> 01:02:08.960] won Grand Prix earlier.
[01:02:08.960 -> 01:02:10.480] For that, Jensen Button's going to be doing show runs.
[01:02:10.480 -> 01:02:11.300] And also a reminder, this is when
[01:02:11.300 -> 01:02:13.480] Brad Pitt's movie starts filming.
[01:02:13.480 -> 01:02:14.720] So if you're at Silverstone, you're
[01:02:14.720 -> 01:02:16.800] going to see a lot of wild things on track.
[01:02:16.800 -> 01:02:20.200] Joe and you attended the Berlin Special Olympics this week.
[01:02:20.200 -> 01:02:22.640] Haas will be using this week's Grand Prix as a test session.
[01:02:22.640 -> 01:02:24.480] Gunther told Chris Medlin via TheRacer.com,
[01:02:24.480 -> 01:02:25.720] that's always comforting going to a Grand Prix.
[01:02:25.720 -> 01:02:27.720] It's just going to be a test for us.
[01:02:27.720 -> 01:02:29.360] And lastly, Yuki has been added to the list
[01:02:29.360 -> 01:02:30.720] of Red Bull drivers driving at the Red Bull event
[01:02:30.720 -> 01:02:31.880] in Germany come September.
[01:02:31.880 -> 01:02:35.080] He's going to be driving the race-winning Honda GT3 car.
[01:02:35.080 -> 01:02:37.200] That is the gridlock for June 29, 2023 completed.
[01:02:37.200 -> 01:02:38.880] How was my sector fed today, Nicole?
[01:02:38.880 -> 01:02:41.000] Faster than the Barbie movie marketing team
[01:02:41.000 -> 01:02:43.000] constructed that entire Barbie dream house in Malibu.
[01:02:43.000 -> 01:02:45.440] I feel like that popped up out of nowhere.
[01:02:45.440 -> 01:02:51.000] But thank you to VoiceOverMan, Pirelli Tire Graphics, major MVP always consistently, and
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[01:03:02.120 -> 01:03:03.120] Question of the week.
[01:03:03.120 -> 01:03:05.240] What do you want to see Ryan Reynolds do with Alpine?
[01:03:05.240 -> 01:03:07.200] I think we already decided that we need to see
[01:03:07.200 -> 01:03:09.600] Atmar and him sit down and watch Deadpool together.
[01:03:09.600 -> 01:03:10.820] So what kind of content do you want to see
[01:03:10.820 -> 01:03:12.440] with Ryan Reynolds filming with Alpine?
[01:03:12.440 -> 01:03:14.160] Take advantage of this opportunity, guys.
[01:03:14.160 -> 01:03:15.000] I thought of another one.
[01:03:15.000 -> 01:03:17.080] Maybe it will spark some things in everyone's brain.
[01:03:17.080 -> 01:03:19.720] I want Michael B. Jordan to do a boxing training
[01:03:19.720 -> 01:03:21.200] with both of the drivers.
[01:03:21.200 -> 01:03:22.160] Make it Creed themed.
[01:03:22.160 -> 01:03:24.240] I would love to see them go through some Creed training.
[01:03:24.240 -> 01:03:27.720] So let's also get Michael B. Jordan out there too. And they need to, like it needs to be
[01:03:27.720 -> 01:03:30.380] a call back to Rocky and they need to go to Philadelphia and run up the stairs. But that's
[01:03:30.380 -> 01:03:36.140] just the Philly fan in me talking. So your Philly is showing. Yes, my Philly is showing.
[01:03:36.140 -> 01:03:39.040] But basically give us some feedback. Let us know, comment below what you like about this
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[01:04:01.940 -> 01:04:04.840] But today felt like a grid tap dance, not a grid walk.
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