Is a DNF a Penalty? | Chaotic Weekend for Formula 1 in Australia | Grid Walk April 6, 2023

A chaotic Formula 1 Australian Grand Prix means a chaotic new episode of Grid Walk! Nicole stayed up way past her bedtime to watch the Formula 1 Australian Grand Prix. Briana quizzes Nicole on different moments of the race to see if her “2 AM brain” will remember anything! Grid Walk heads back Into the Wild after the marathon of red flags done by the FIA (Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile) at the Formula 1 Australian Grand Prix. Along with multiple restarts the Formula 1 Australian Grand Prix brought up an interesting penalty discussion regarding the FIA. Who can forget the heartbreaking radio from Scuderia Ferrari driver Carlos Sainz Jr.? Is the FIA (Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile) right that a DNF is punishment enough instead of a penalty? How did the FIA completely ignore the actions of Williams Racing driver Logan Sargeant? Are we only seeing the start of fights at BWT Alpine F1 Team between Pierre Gasly and Esteban Ocon?Nicole steps up on to her soapbox to give Red Bull Racing third driver Daniel Ricciardo all the reasons he should take the Haas F1 Team seat and return to the grid. Can Daniel Ricciardo be convinced or did the departure from Mclaren F1 Team discourage him from joining another team?Scuderia Ferrari takes over the Misery Corner on this week’s episode. The Formula 1 Australian Grand Prix was a tough one for both Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz Jr.. After a second DNF of the season, is Charles Leclerc just unlucky? Will Carlos Sainz be able to stay optimistic after his penalty pushed him out of the points in the F1 Australian Grand Prix.Briana and Nicole are back with one of a kind podiums for the Formula 1 Australian Grand Prix. Why did Scuderia AlphaTauri driver Yuki Tsunoda hop over a barricade? What were the hysterical quotes from British commentator Jolyon Palmer? Are things looking up for Oscar Piastri and Mclaren F1 Team? What were Nicole’s favorite Daniel Ricciardo moments? How is Mercedes-AMG Petronas F1 Team utilizing team principal Toto Wolff for social media content?Grid Walk Reads The Rules so you don’t have to! Briana and Nicole break down the official rulebook to determine if Red Bull Racing driver Max Verstappen should have received a penalty for how he lined up on the grid at the Formula 1 Australian Grand Prix. Is this another inconsistent call by FIA? What was Lewis Hamilton asking the Mercedes F1 Team in an attempt to clear up the race confusion? This topic is fresh in the minds of Formula 1 fans after the recent penalties of Aston Martin F1 Team driver Fernando Alonso and Alpine F1 Team driver Esteban Ocon.Grid Walk is a weekly Formula 1 show that releases every Thursday. For daily F1 content follow @gridwalkshow on all social media platforms.

1. **Quiz on Race Incidents:**
- Nicole struggled to recall the driver who helped the engineers by dragging the tire cart during the long waiting period. The correct answer was Fernando Alonso.
- Julian Palmer, not a driver, made the comment "What are they investigating themselves?" during the standing restart investigation.
- Nico Hulkenberg's Ferrari engine failure on the final lap caused him to fall back significantly behind Haas.

2. **Resurgence of Hope and Red Bull's Reliability:**
- Mercedes showed improved pace, raising hopes for a more competitive season.
- Red Bull's reliability concerns emerged, with Max Verstappen experiencing an engine issue during qualifying.

3. **Ferrari's Struggles:**
- The team faced continued difficulties with their car's performance and reliability.
- Charles Leclerc crashed during qualifying, while Carlos Sainz received a penalty for an incident during the race.

4. **FIA's Controversial Decisions:**
- The FIA's handling of the race was heavily criticized, particularly their decisions regarding red flags, standing restarts, and penalty allocations.
- The inconsistent application of penalties, with Carlos Sainz receiving a penalty while Pierre Gasly and Logan Sargeant escaped punishment for similar incidents, drew criticism.
- The decision to reorder the race back to the order before the second standing restart, instead of maintaining the order after the restart, was also questioned.

5. **Potential Reduction in Practice Time:**
- The FIA is considering reducing practice time during race weekends to increase the unpredictability and excitement of races.
- The Australian Grand Prix provided a live test of this concept, with limited practice sessions due to the red flags and restarts.
- The impact of reduced practice time on driver performance and team strategies was discussed.

6. **Into the Wild:**
- The hosts criticized the FIA's decision-making and lack of clear communication during the race.
- The FIA's tendency to prioritize entertainment over safety and fair competition was questioned.
- The inconsistencies in penalty allocations and the lack of transparency in the decision-making process were highlighted.

7. **FIA's Red Flag Decisions:**
- The FIA's decision to red flag the race after safety incidents was debated.
- The lack of clear criteria for red flags and the potential manipulation of the rules for entertainment purposes were discussed.
- The need for better communication and transparency from the FIA was emphasized.

8. **Inconsistent Penalty Allocations:**
- The FIA's inconsistent approach to penalties, with Carlos Sainz receiving a penalty while Pierre Gasly and Logan Sargeant did not, was criticized.
- The hosts questioned the rationale behind the FIA's decisions and the lack of clarity in the penalty system.
- The impact of inconsistent penalties on driver morale and team strategies was discussed.

9. **Reordering of Race Order:**
- The FIA's decision to reorder the race back to the order before the second standing restart was analyzed.
- The hosts read Article 53.3 of the sporting regulations, which states that the order should be taken at the last point where all car positions could be determined.
- The confusion surrounding the timing screens and the different orders that were displayed was discussed.

**Daniel Ricciardo's Future**

* Klein makes a passionate case for Daniel Ricciardo to join the Haas F1 team, arguing that it would be a good opportunity for him to regain his competitive spirit and enjoy racing again without the pressure of being in a top team.
* She acknowledges Ricciardo's hesitance to join a backmarker team, but emphasizes that Haas has shown promise under Guenther Steiner's leadership and that Ricciardo could have a positive impact on the team's performance.
* Katz agrees that Haas would be a good fit for Ricciardo, especially considering his love for money and his desire to have fun while racing.

**Ferrari's Development Plans**

* The hosts express their concern over Ferrari's lack of transparency regarding their development plans.
* They note that Ferrari is currently the fourth fastest car on the grid and has experienced reliability issues, with Charles Leclerc retiring from two of the three races so far.
* Despite this, they have been unable to find any information about Ferrari's plans to improve the car's performance, leading them to speculate that there may be internal disagreements or a lack of a clear direction within the team.

**Wholesome Moments and Top Social Media Posts**

* Klein and Katz share their favorite wholesome moments from the Australian Grand Prix weekend, including Yuki Tsunoda's fan interactions, Oscar Piastri scoring points in his home race, and Daniel Ricciardo's positive attitude despite his struggles.
* They also highlight some of the best social media posts from the weekend, including a video of Esteban Ocon and Pierre Gasly cooking burgers for Jack Doohan, a photo of Toto Wolff dressed as Darth Vader, and Alfa Romeo's post with question marks representing their finishing positions.

**Confusion Over Starting Grid Penalties**

* The hosts discuss the controversy surrounding the penalties handed out to Esteban Ocon and Fernando Alonso for lining up incorrectly on the grid, while Max Verstappen escaped punishment for a similar offense.
* They read the relevant rule from the FIA Sporting Regulations, which states that any part of the contact patch of the front tires must be outside the lines at the time of the start signal.
* Klein and Katz interpret this rule to mean that both front tires must be completely clear of the lines, and they question why the FIA applied the rule differently in the cases of Ocon and Alonso compared to Verstappen.

**Yellow Sector Notes**

* The hosts briefly mention some news and developments from around the paddock, including Red Bull's licensing deal with Yeti, Aston Martin's merch line with Fernando Alonso's company Kamoa, and Mercedes' tie-dye merch collection.

**Overall Message**

* The overall message of the podcast is that Formula One needs to improve its communication and transparency, both in terms of race regulations and team development plans.
* The hosts also emphasize the importance of creating more wholesome and engaging content for fans, and they celebrate the positive moments that can be found even in a challenging and unpredictable sport like Formula One. **Formula One News and Updates**

* Mercedes' fan merchandise lacks variety, particularly in color options.

* Charles Leclerc's stolen watch: Police arrest suspects and release footage of Leclerc pursuing the thieves.

* AlphaTauri's internal drama: One driver causing chaos by taking out their teammate during a race.

* Esteban Ocon debuts a new jacket, exciting his fans.

* McLaren's boss, Zak Brown, challenges Christian Horner and Toto Wolff to a race and a boxing match, respectively.

* Robert Kubica countersues Williams in a Florida court for damages to his reputation.

* Nico Hülkenberg expresses dissatisfaction with the Australian GP's management.

* Valtteri Bottas' race-worn helmet from the Australian GP is up for auction, with proceeds benefiting Save the Children.

* Nicholas Latifi shoots content for the Auto Meal Club of Monaco.

**Gridwalk Show Updates**

* The hosts express gratitude to VoiceOver Man, their mothers, and their four-legged executive producers.

* Listeners are encouraged to turn on auto downloads, rate and review the podcast, and follow the show on social media.

* The hosts tease upcoming F1 spring break content, including 25 days of sponsored reviews and daily gridwalks.

* New episodes of the Gridwalk Show are released every Thursday.

[00:00.000 -> 00:08.560] Hi, Nicole. Hello. So I thought before we get into the meat of the gridwalk episode today,
[00:10.320 -> 00:28.640] for those of you who live in different parts of the world, Nicole lives in New York. The Australian from what was it 11 p.m. oh no 1 a.m. to 4 a.m. yeah 1 to 4.
[00:28.640 -> 00:36.160] Right, so Nicole's a little delirious she also tweeted like she live tweeted it so if you want to see some of the
[00:36.160 -> 00:40.440] delirious thoughts head over to her Twitter but I'm gonna quiz Nicole on
[00:40.440 -> 00:44.360] three quizzes of things that are like headline things that happen or things
[00:44.360 -> 00:49.320] Nicole and I have actually talked about like but talked about during the race.
[00:49.320 -> 00:55.440] Just see just how much information she retained between the hours of 1 and 4am.
[00:55.440 -> 01:00.960] Really worried after the second restart it all just started to get really foggy of just
[01:00.960 -> 01:07.760] like what is happening so who knows nothing good happens after 2am so great
[01:08.800 -> 01:14.800] cold ground are lined up on the grid it's lights out and away we go this week's grid walk
[01:16.400 -> 01:22.320] question one during the really long waiting period where they were figuring out what to do
[01:22.800 -> 01:24.520] period where they were figuring out what to do
[01:28.040 -> 01:30.080] after the first standing restart, or no, after the second standing restart
[01:30.080 -> 01:32.680] before they did the silly lap with the safety car.
[01:32.680 -> 01:35.520] So the 45 minutes where we were just waiting.
[01:35.520 -> 01:38.600] One of the drivers helped his engineers
[01:38.600 -> 01:42.280] by dragging out the tire cart for them.
[01:42.280 -> 01:43.880] Which driver did this?
[01:43.880 -> 01:47.960] Oh no, I remember like seeing this and I
[01:47.960 -> 01:58.240] can't remember who it was. Oh no. Oh I'm gonna guess something so wrong. I'm
[01:58.240 -> 02:08.880] trying to now think who was still in play at this point. So technically there's only 12 drivers you could guess from.
[02:08.880 -> 02:18.240] So you have a 1 in 12 shot if you just guess. Who... also like who's likely to do it, you
[02:18.240 -> 02:26.280] know? Um... oh I don't remember. This is a shot in the dark answer because I really don't remember.
[02:26.280 -> 02:29.360] I'm going to say Oscar.
[02:29.360 -> 02:33.960] No, it was Fernando Alonso.
[02:33.960 -> 02:38.480] Oh, that's a trick question.
[02:38.480 -> 02:41.040] Because you would never think he would be likely to do that.
[02:41.040 -> 02:42.640] Yes, I know.
[02:42.640 -> 02:45.960] And my brain was like, sayonzo and I'm like no brain
[02:45.960 -> 02:52.040] you don't remember right Brianna's also unlikely to ask an Alonzo question yes
[02:52.040 -> 03:00.600] yeah all of it was there you fooled me who said what are they investigating
[03:00.600 -> 03:06.800] themselves and what were they talking about?
[03:13.960 -> 03:14.080] Oh my god, I really I'm totally gonna butcher this because and so bizarre how I remember hearing all of these things
[03:17.980 -> 03:18.800] When I try to think of a face, it's just like a blur of nothing
[03:20.800 -> 03:22.600] What are they investigating themselves?
[03:24.600 -> 03:29.200] Max Verstappen. Nope, it was Julian Palmer in the booth. And this is what's particularly
[03:29.200 -> 03:34.240] funny about this is Nicole and I had a huge text thread back and forth about how funny this was,
[03:34.240 -> 03:40.720] and he was talking about that, the standing restart that caused all the crashes, and up on
[03:40.720 -> 03:46.680] the screen there was a graphic that said, you know, start procedure under investigation.
[03:46.680 -> 03:49.520] And he's like, what are they investigating themselves?
[03:49.520 -> 03:50.320] Yep.
[03:50.320 -> 03:53.160] Literally, I'm like, the whole time, I'm like, as I'm saying,
[03:53.160 -> 03:56.120] I'm like, I can't, no, I can't think of any driver that would say this.
[03:56.120 -> 03:58.880] And then I probably say the one driver that would never say it.
[03:59.120 -> 04:00.040] Because I'm like, I don't know.
[04:00.040 -> 04:01.320] And it was not a driver.
[04:01.320 -> 04:02.080] That's why.
[04:03.560 -> 04:04.560] Bombing.
[04:02.000 -> 04:14.280] And it was not a driver. That's why. Alright. The last thing is something happened to Nico Hulkenberg on the final lap behind
[04:14.280 -> 04:19.840] that safety car. What happened to Nico Hulkenberg?
[04:19.840 -> 04:27.860] Nico had to, I can't even come up with a real answer of something that would have happened
[04:27.860 -> 04:35.080] on track that caused him to unbelievably fall back and just be Haas.
[04:35.080 -> 04:36.080] He sneezed.
[04:36.080 -> 04:37.080] I didn't say he fell back.
[04:37.080 -> 04:42.080] I know, this is me just making an assumption of what, I cannot remember what happened with
[04:42.080 -> 04:43.920] Nico in that race at all.
[04:43.920 -> 04:45.280] Like at all.
[04:51.840 -> 04:52.400] In the last lap, while they were just following the safety car for a dumb show run, essentially,
[04:59.840 -> 05:05.440] um, the Ferrari engine decided to go kaput and he literally trundled the car to the very end. Wow, oh yes, yeah, yeah, I remember waking up and then seeing that later.
[05:05.440 -> 05:08.640] And no one probs anything.
[05:08.640 -> 05:12.880] I did watch the race. Can't tell by this quiz.
[05:14.240 -> 05:20.800] To be fair to Nicole, before we started, I gave her my like, cutting room floor question,
[05:21.360 -> 05:25.120] which is who called the standing restart a quote stupid rule on
[05:25.120 -> 05:29.320] the radio and she did guess correctly that that was Alonso. And then I said I'm
[05:29.320 -> 05:34.440] gonna get all of the ones wrong on the pod so maybe I'm psychic. I do have one
[05:34.440 -> 05:37.520] more on the cutting room floor if you want to attempt to redeem yourself. Oh my
[05:37.520 -> 05:42.680] god I think I need some kind of redemption because this is embarrassing.
[05:42.680 -> 05:47.440] So this was also a quote one that happened over the radio.
[05:47.440 -> 05:56.340] One of the drivers was asked by their engineers about the final restart
[05:56.340 -> 06:07.480] order and their response was bleep you tell me. Do you know who said that?
[06:09.080 -> 06:10.620] I thought this one was too hard, actually, which is why I left it on the cutting room floor,
[06:10.620 -> 06:11.460] but it was funny.
[06:11.460 -> 06:12.580] I didn't know, because this is hard,
[06:12.580 -> 06:15.240] because my brain just wants to now say Fernando Alonso
[06:15.240 -> 06:16.400] for like every answer, but I'm like,
[06:16.400 -> 06:19.200] there's no way that she would have also had like
[06:19.200 -> 06:22.940] another Fernando Alonso question.
[06:22.940 -> 06:25.000] So I'm gonna say again, Max Verstappen.
[06:25.000 -> 06:33.000] See, that is a really likely answer. But this one was actually also Hulkenberg, where his engineer said,
[06:33.000 -> 06:37.000] Do you know where Norris is in the new order? And he said, bleep, you tell me.
[06:37.000 -> 06:41.000] Right, right. Max doesn't care about the order that's passed.
[06:41.000 -> 06:45.840] No, Max knows Max has won. Right, that's all he needs to know.
[06:45.840 -> 06:52.800] But so, all right, well, you know what guys? Australia time zones are hard and I watched the
[06:52.800 -> 07:10.400] race. She did. Max won. I live tweeted it, there's evidence. Let lead us into an extra long break between races. Before we get
[07:10.400 -> 07:16.320] started on anything, just reminding everyone that we are doing something we're calling F1 Spring
[07:16.320 -> 07:21.680] Break over on all of our social media channels. You can follow us wherever you do social media
[07:21.680 -> 07:26.280] at Gridwalk Show and we're going gonna be posting videos every single day,
[07:26.280 -> 07:28.960] reviewing a different F1 sponsor.
[07:28.960 -> 07:31.960] So still happy, still tons of content,
[07:31.960 -> 07:35.880] but before we get into spring break mode on the pod,
[07:35.880 -> 07:38.600] we have to talk about the Australian GP
[07:38.600 -> 07:40.040] and all the things happening.
[07:41.160 -> 07:43.480] So in the show today, we're gonna discuss
[07:43.480 -> 07:46.320] the resurgence of hope and pace around the
[07:46.320 -> 07:50.080] Mercedes and Red Bull's reliability.
[07:50.080 -> 07:56.120] We're also going to attempt to figure out what is going on with the Ferrari car.
[07:56.120 -> 08:02.640] We'll read the rules for you on many things, so you don't have to read the FIA regulations
[08:02.640 -> 08:06.900] because we did it for you, including that photo circling of Macs
[08:06.960 -> 08:09.700] potentially incorrectly lined up on the grid.
[08:10.360 -> 08:13.260] Finally, we're going to circle back to our conversation last week
[08:13.340 -> 08:16.160] about F1 potentially reducing practice time after the weekend,
[08:16.240 -> 08:20.600] because they technically reduced practice time this weekend
[08:20.660 -> 08:21.740] with all the...
[08:21.800 -> 08:25.600] We got a live test of what that would be like, essentially. So we're
[08:25.600 -> 08:31.120] going to talk about that again. All of this happened, and I'm eager to talk about it,
[08:31.680 -> 08:39.520] but for the second race week, post pod, whatever this is, in a row, we have to start by heading
[08:39.520 -> 08:47.400] into the wild. Oh boy. All right, reminder of what this segment is. We call the FIA the Zebras
[08:47.400 -> 08:53.260] because we refer to them as the refs of F1. Traditionally, in most other sports we
[08:53.260 -> 08:58.580] watch, refs wear black and white stripes, refs are the Zebras. Therefore, we are
[08:58.580 -> 09:07.400] going into the wild. The FIA's decision-making is also confusing. Some might say wild, therefore double meanings.
[09:07.400 -> 09:09.400] We're into the wild right now.
[09:10.820 -> 09:14.060] We do think that's clever. Yes, you don't have to comment that.
[09:14.060 -> 09:16.060] And you could, yeah, because we know it is.
[09:16.060 -> 09:18.060] Yeah, yeah.
[09:18.900 -> 09:22.400] There's a lot to talk about here. There's so much to get to.
[09:22.400 -> 09:30.320] I hate race weekends, personally, where the result is at the biggest storylines to come out are the FIA, and
[09:30.320 -> 09:36.600] it is that kind of race weekend. So we can litigate penalties and talk about
[09:36.600 -> 09:40.040] red flags and restart orders, and we're definitely gonna get to that and do that.
[09:40.040 -> 09:47.100] But I want to start by throwing a question to you, Nicole. Both answers, totally fair. There's no right or wrong answer here.
[09:47.800 -> 09:49.800] Did the red flags and
[09:50.740 -> 09:55.980] restart chaos make this race more fun and enjoyable for you to watch?
[09:56.500 -> 10:00.300] Or less fun, or did it have no impact at all?
[10:01.160 -> 10:03.040] Personally, just for you,
[10:03.040 -> 10:06.000] what effect does this have on your race viewing experience?
[10:07.280 -> 10:12.400] So the first disclaimer I have to say is just based on, as we discussed,
[10:12.400 -> 10:15.760] the timing of this race for me being from one to four in the morning,
[10:17.280 -> 10:22.400] I was like, every time another red flag happened, I was like, no, I need to close my eyes.
[10:22.500 -> 10:27.500] I was like, no, I need to close my eyes. But I do think that if this was more of the timeframe when,
[10:28.500 -> 10:30.400] you know, we get to watch races,
[10:30.400 -> 10:31.860] which is still pretty early,
[10:31.860 -> 10:35.060] but not in the middle of when I'm trying to sleep,
[10:35.060 -> 10:38.380] I tend to find this chaos a little bit more
[10:38.380 -> 10:42.400] or a lot more interesting to an extent that as long as,
[10:42.400 -> 10:46.040] if this chaos is happening and there can be some form of
[10:46.040 -> 10:51.760] what I would say is like proper racing afterwards, I feel like it can be
[10:51.760 -> 10:56.800] exciting and bring cars closer together especially in a season where Red Bull is
[10:56.800 -> 11:01.240] so ahead that you only have a few opportunities to be so close to maybe
[11:01.240 -> 11:06.000] try to catch up. So I tend to enjoy it more, except when
[11:06.000 -> 11:10.320] something happens where it's like, we're gonna drive a lap around! So there's like
[11:10.320 -> 11:16.800] caveats to it, but I tend to enjoy chaos when it comes to a week weekend. So I'm going to
[11:16.800 -> 11:21.480] ask you some clarifying questions. I want to be clear. I know what you mean,
[11:21.480 -> 11:29.840] but I'm gonna be the comment section for a second and give you an opportunity to clarify your answer here okay do you think it's more
[11:29.840 -> 11:35.320] or less fun when the FIA make up rules to manufacture racing that I do not
[11:35.320 -> 11:41.640] enjoy I do not think that yeah I mean the FIA the FIA's inconsistency in
[11:41.640 -> 11:48.000] their rule-calling very much much ruins a race experience. I think
[11:48.000 -> 11:57.560] when it is a proper and consistent process, a red flag situation could make a race experience
[11:57.560 -> 12:04.000] could be a little bit more chaotic, thus more interesting to watch. I do not enjoy FIA's
[12:04.000 -> 12:06.400] inconsistent rule calling and procedures
[12:06.400 -> 12:10.320] when it comes to races and handling these types of things.
[12:10.320 -> 12:19.680] Do you think when the governance of the sport manufactures things for excitement, such as
[12:19.680 -> 12:25.360] turning a safety car into a red flag, or changing up the order, or making something a standing
[12:25.360 -> 12:35.920] restart when it shouldn't be, or just applying penalties for entertainment, does that actually
[12:35.920 -> 12:40.080] improve your enjoyment of the race in the middle of the race?
[12:40.080 -> 12:41.960] No. No, not at all.
[12:41.960 -> 12:46.640] Okay. No, because that just feels, it's just, it kind of makes it like unnecessary.
[12:46.640 -> 12:47.640] It's like, what's the point?
[12:47.640 -> 12:51.320] Like, what's the point of putting all this broken cars and things?
[12:51.320 -> 12:52.320] Why are we at?
[12:52.320 -> 12:54.480] Well, it's not a race at that point.
[12:54.480 -> 12:59.400] So no, no, the FIA, and it's, again, it's the pick and choosing of when they feel like
[12:59.400 -> 13:05.760] being involved in things and when they suddenly feel like we're really gonna you know here
[13:05.760 -> 13:09.280] are rules and we're gonna enforce them and sometimes they're just like what's
[13:09.280 -> 13:19.440] happened what rules for anyone listening I'm covering my eyes yeah yeah okay so I
[13:19.440 -> 13:26.480] asked a bad question led you down the wrong road because I'm in a very similar space as you are where
[13:26.480 -> 13:34.480] while a normal red flag or a standing restart followed by the rules or teams being penalized
[13:35.360 -> 13:44.320] correctly can add to enjoyment of a race no part of watching the race this weekend did I find
[13:46.000 -> 13:50.000] No part of watching the race this weekend did I find enjoyable. Involving that part.
[13:50.000 -> 13:55.000] So when there was a red flag because Alex Albon crashed,
[13:55.000 -> 13:57.000] and they needed to clear the track,
[13:57.000 -> 14:02.000] while I didn't necessarily think there needed to be a red flag,
[14:02.000 -> 14:08.960] I was like, okay, this makes sense. But so much of everything else
[14:10.880 -> 14:19.680] felt manufactured, and it's often assumed that the confusing and unclear decisions that the
[14:19.680 -> 14:29.040] FIA are making, they're making for entertainment. And that's why I wanted to start the conversation here, because I don't actually think it's providing
[14:29.040 -> 14:35.160] additional entertainment. So is this storyline that it's, oh it's for the
[14:35.160 -> 14:38.880] Netflix generation, or the FIA is just trying to make racing more exciting, is
[14:38.880 -> 14:43.760] that just a manufactured storyline to distract us from the fact that this
[14:43.760 -> 14:45.200] sport is just incredibly
[14:45.200 -> 14:50.480] mismanaged with background deals? I don't know what would be worse.
[14:51.600 -> 14:59.680] Like, it's both just whether it's on purpose or just poor management, it's like kind of one
[14:59.680 -> 15:04.480] and the same to me. I don't want to think that because if you're thinking about any sort of
[15:06.800 -> 15:12.120] same to me. I don't want to think that because if you're thinking about any sort of other sport governing body interfering in a sport that way at all, like it would just cause
[15:12.120 -> 15:16.760] it an unbelievable uprising. That's why it's so funny that this consistently happened to
[15:16.760 -> 15:21.040] the FIA and F1 and you have people like this, that way, but like there's still, I don't
[15:21.040 -> 15:27.480] know, it just feel like in other sports there would be so much more of an uproar about it. And it's so common in F1.
[15:27.480 -> 15:30.720] So yeah, I just think it's the,
[15:30.720 -> 15:32.240] I think it's management, it's just management.
[15:32.240 -> 15:36.560] It's just bad management, but it both can be true.
[15:36.560 -> 15:40.040] So why are, like, I think it gets back to,
[15:40.040 -> 15:43.560] why are the, why is the media, why are us as fans,
[15:43.560 -> 15:45.920] why are we all just defaulting to,
[15:45.920 -> 15:50.560] well the FIA is doing this because of entertainment? I don't, and to your point,
[15:50.560 -> 15:54.960] I don't really care why the FIA is doing it, but I think we're missing the point.
[15:55.680 -> 16:01.280] Like, we shouldn't be leaving the Australian GP and all of the discourses around, well this is
[16:01.280 -> 16:06.560] like, why Netflix is bad, or this is why the sport needs to not care
[16:06.560 -> 16:13.680] about entertainment. I think that is an assumption, that the FIA is making all of these decisions
[16:13.680 -> 16:21.160] and purposefully stewarding their sport incorrectly because of entertainment. I think we just
[16:21.160 -> 16:27.040] need to fix the fact that they're not stewarding the sport correctly. I don't care about the rationale behind it.
[16:27.040 -> 16:29.360] Because that storyline is so divisive.
[16:29.360 -> 16:35.120] It's there so people can go yell- we can all go yell at each other instead of yelling at the FIA.
[16:35.120 -> 16:37.280] Which is why I leave weekends like this, like,
[16:37.280 -> 16:40.320] okay, so no one had fun, so who are we yelling at?
[16:40.320 -> 16:44.480] Right, like, I've talked to Americans, casual fans,
[16:44.480 -> 16:47.600] I've talked to hardcore fans, tech fans, racing
[16:47.600 -> 16:55.000] fans, fans who just like the drivers, all fans, and the general consensus is, what is
[16:55.000 -> 16:56.560] going on with this sport?
[16:56.560 -> 16:58.960] Why can't they follow their own rules?
[16:58.960 -> 17:04.200] I've yet to hear someone respond with, well that was fun!
[17:04.200 -> 17:06.000] And who are they doing this for?
[17:06.000 -> 17:09.000] And it's not like race cars are boring.
[17:09.000 -> 17:14.000] They're so, like, they're going hundreds of miles per hour on, like,
[17:14.000 -> 17:20.000] and I can't, and even if it, you know, there's this major gap, and if you want to make the argument of like,
[17:20.000 -> 17:32.160] oh well, Red Bull's just like so ahead that it's not interesting. It's like, stop that storyline for like a second. And there's 18 other cars on the grid that are driving crazy fast, all
[17:32.160 -> 17:36.720] this technology. There's so many other things going on. And again, why we started a podcast
[17:36.720 -> 17:40.520] called Gridwalk, because we want to talk about everything up and down the grid, because it's
[17:40.520 -> 17:43.960] not just about who's in P1. It's not just about who's in the front. Is it what people
[17:43.960 -> 17:49.280] talk about all the time? Sure. But even all of these choices didn't make that better anyway,
[17:49.280 -> 17:56.800] because Max still won! And there was no chance, unless Max crashed, that he was going to lose
[17:56.800 -> 18:07.640] that race. So I just have decided, I'm gonna conspiracy theory this for a second that this whole like f1s being ruined for entertainment purposes
[18:08.160 -> 18:12.400] Is just a bad storyline that is fundamentally incorrect
[18:12.440 -> 18:18.840] Even if that was F the F I is intention because no one is more entertained. We're all just frustrated
[18:19.040 -> 18:21.040] Everyone's frustrated and upset
[18:22.440 -> 18:27.800] So I'm like begging the the people spreading those narratives to like
[18:27.800 -> 18:34.380] no one, no one thinks this is more fun. And now we have three more topics that we need
[18:34.380 -> 18:39.680] to get into about things that the FIA did that are worthy of going into the wild and
[18:39.680 -> 18:44.560] spending an entire podcast on in itself. It's just...
[18:44.560 -> 18:45.000] Damn zebras. Damn zebras. an entire podcast on in itself. It's just...
[18:45.000 -> 18:47.000] Damn zebras.
[18:47.000 -> 18:49.000] Damn zebras!
[18:49.000 -> 18:53.000] Alright, wanna move into some specific decisions?
[18:53.000 -> 18:55.000] Yes.
[18:55.000 -> 18:57.000] Alright, red flags.
[18:57.000 -> 19:01.000] So, instead of long safety card periods,
[19:01.000 -> 19:06.000] they, FIA really decided that they were gonna red flag this.
[19:06.000 -> 19:12.000] Yes, after many of these, I think you could have said that the cars could have
[19:12.000 -> 19:17.000] gone around for 10 laps slowly behind a safety car, or they could have red flagged it.
[19:17.000 -> 19:21.000] That was kind of the decisions they were making, particularly for the Aalbach,
[19:21.000 -> 19:25.440] and I think the Kevin Magnuson one too. Yeah.
[19:32.480 -> 19:33.520] Um, I think there's two parts of these decisions. One is, do we like that they did that?
[19:49.280 -> 19:56.880] And then the other one is, it, it's presumed that this decision to do this was a another backroom deal where the teams FOM and the FIA all decided that if a safety car is going to take a lot of laps on in the Grand Prix they'll red flag it to not
[19:56.880 -> 20:07.240] lose those laps. So one side of it is do we like the decision and the other side of it is, do we like the decision? And the other side of it is, are we OK with how
[20:07.240 -> 20:10.240] they made that decision?
[20:10.240 -> 20:13.000] And I'm going to throw both of those questions to you.
[20:13.000 -> 20:15.520] OK.
[20:15.520 -> 20:16.600] Immediate gut feeling.
[20:16.600 -> 20:21.760] Do not feel OK about the decision.
[20:21.760 -> 20:23.120] It feels sketchy.
[20:23.120 -> 20:28.700] It feels weird. However, thinking from just a perspective of like,
[20:28.700 -> 20:31.760] would I hate to be watching cars just drive around?
[20:31.760 -> 20:33.900] Like if I was thinking about the Australian Grand Prix
[20:33.900 -> 20:35.680] and the amount of like laps that would have been
[20:35.680 -> 20:38.420] behind a safety car that then like wasn't actual racing,
[20:38.420 -> 20:40.380] but then, I don't know, we ended up,
[20:40.380 -> 20:42.220] it just felt like we were just sitting around
[20:42.220 -> 20:43.780] and like no one knew what was going on.
[20:43.780 -> 20:48.320] So I just feel like it could have been handled better that maybe we could have gotten like the racing. But
[20:48.320 -> 20:52.240] again, I'm just asking for more communication during those long extended periods because they
[20:52.240 -> 20:57.200] just become so much more frustrating of like, look, I'll sit, you just tell me why what's happening
[20:57.200 -> 21:03.760] on the track, make it make sense that it's a red flag. And then I'm like, okay, sure.
[21:04.480 -> 21:09.540] So from the perspective of the teams, I can see like, you know what, they don't
[21:09.540 -> 21:11.100] want to be wasting their tires.
[21:11.100 -> 21:13.920] They want to be able to race and like use their actual strategy.
[21:13.920 -> 21:17.940] And you can't do that behind a safety car, but you can't just
[21:17.940 -> 21:19.820] throw red flag every single time.
[21:19.840 -> 21:21.060] It becomes unnecessary.
[21:21.060 -> 21:24.040] It gets to the point that's like, it's an inconsistency.
[21:24.040 -> 21:27.560] And then it's like, well, then what's the point of having a safety car? Just red flag it every single
[21:27.560 -> 21:28.560] time.
[21:28.560 -> 21:34.680] Yeah, it definitely felt silly in the moment. I mean, and if they were behind a safety car
[21:34.680 -> 21:38.720] after Kevin Magnuson and it wasn't a standing restart, then technically there wouldn't have
[21:38.720 -> 21:45.000] been that big crash. Theoretically, I don't know, butterfly effect, who knows?
[21:45.000 -> 21:47.880] Yeah, I think I'm with you.
[21:47.880 -> 21:54.240] I'm not super anti the idea of red flagging it.
[21:54.240 -> 21:59.320] I'm anti the fact that it's not written down beforehand and told to all of us, to your
[21:59.320 -> 22:03.080] point about communication.
[22:03.080 -> 22:08.160] The red flag regulations are very clear that it's supposed to be red flagged
[22:08.160 -> 22:09.160] for safety.
[22:09.160 -> 22:16.040] So, after the Alex Alba caution, they red flagged it and they said it was for gravel.
[22:16.040 -> 22:20.640] And to your point about communication, nothing feels dumber than when it's the middle of
[22:20.640 -> 22:24.720] the night, you're watching a Grand Prix, and they said, nope, we're going to pause in racing,
[22:24.720 -> 22:29.920] we're going to ruin everyone's tire strategies because of gravel like yeah that
[22:29.920 -> 22:36.960] feels so exciting like woo but if they at the beginning of the weekend said hey we're gonna
[22:36.960 -> 22:42.800] implement this new rule and there's going to be you know the the red and black flag i don't think
[22:42.800 -> 22:46.260] in the there's already a red and black flag, but flag people
[22:46.260 -> 22:48.620] I'm really sorry. I got that wrong. Oh
[22:49.260 -> 22:51.760] There's so many flags and a lot of them aren't used
[22:52.260 -> 22:54.440] And that's gonna be for hey
[22:54.440 -> 22:58.100] We think that this safety car is gonna be over five laps
[22:58.100 -> 23:03.220] And if the safety car is gonna be over five laps, we're going to do this special type of red flag
[23:03.980 -> 23:05.280] Then we all wouldn't be sitting there being like do you think we're going to do this special type of red flag. Then we all wouldn't be
[23:05.280 -> 23:11.040] sitting there being like, do you think we're dumb? Like, you're talking like, I know that
[23:11.040 -> 23:17.280] it's not because of gravel. I could figure that out in the moment. So it's, and then
[23:17.280 -> 23:23.760] it feels manipulative. Yeah. It feels really crazy. I'm just like, well, what are we doing
[23:23.760 -> 23:27.760] here? And then also hearing the drivers on the radio continue and like jumping around from driver
[23:27.760 -> 23:30.920] to driver of like them just being like, well, what's going on?
[23:30.920 -> 23:33.800] And so many engineers also not knowing what's going on.
[23:33.800 -> 23:39.080] Like it was just like, I mean, you and I were having a conversation and it's still, I was
[23:39.080 -> 23:40.200] cackling at it.
[23:40.200 -> 23:44.520] And it's still funny now when you're like, Louis is confused as am I.
[23:44.520 -> 23:45.920] It was just, no one knew what was happening and like, Lewis is confused as am I. It was just no one knew what
[23:45.920 -> 23:50.560] was happening and there you couldn't get any answers and that I hate to say I've gotten used
[23:50.560 -> 23:56.960] to that with the commentators but like there was nowhere you couldn't get information from
[23:57.520 -> 24:04.800] people that were there. It was unbelievable. Yeah and I hate that every conversation about the FIA
[24:04.800 -> 24:06.480] and their stewarding goes back to,
[24:06.480 -> 24:09.280] you know if you just talked to us we would be okay?
[24:09.280 -> 24:10.280] Like hire a PR team.
[24:10.280 -> 24:14.720] You know what I realized I didn't even put on our show outline for today?
[24:14.720 -> 24:19.320] Is the fact that they can no longer celebrate because the FIA thought that being the no
[24:19.320 -> 24:26.240] fun organization was like, is their goal, and last week was no, no bikes or things with wheels on track
[24:26.240 -> 24:35.520] walks. And this week is no more iconic celebrations. Like no bikes, no celebrating and not a lot
[24:35.520 -> 24:48.580] of racing. Unclear rules. We're going to manipulate them to what we like and you can't have fun. That was the message from the FIA this weekend. Thanks!
[24:52.200 -> 24:59.660] All right, but I think we were hammering them a lot, but I do like the idea of
[24:59.660 -> 25:04.860] them red flagging and not spending tons of laps under a safety car. I also think
[25:04.860 -> 25:09.080] that's safer for marshals who have to go out and clear up the track.
[25:09.080 -> 25:14.480] It was sunny this weekend at the Grand Prix, but normally the sheer amount of crashes like
[25:14.480 -> 25:19.920] this can happen a lot on rainy days, so it's even scarier for the marshals.
[25:19.920 -> 25:29.000] Just communicate it, set a clear rule that we could follow. Like, I should not be Googling the FIA sporting regulations in the middle of a race.
[25:29.000 -> 25:32.000] That's my one ask.
[25:32.000 -> 25:36.000] So we're going to talk more about that, because, guess what?
[25:36.000 -> 25:41.000] We had confusing penalty allocations, where only one driver got a penalty,
[25:41.000 -> 25:47.960] and it was Carlos Sainz, but for some reason, Logan was to drive straight into the back of Nick DeVries car and no penalty
[25:47.960 -> 25:51.600] and Pierre was allowed to not look in his mirror and completely take out his
[25:51.600 -> 25:55.720] teammate. Actually, if you go back and you watch the whole thing, everything that
[25:55.720 -> 25:59.200] happens with the exception of Logan taking out Nick DeVries all pretty much
[25:59.200 -> 26:07.920] happens because of what Pierre did. So instead of litigating the details of Carlos's penalty in particular,
[26:09.040 -> 26:16.080] because it gives me a headache and I think it's silly, I want to discuss this inconsistency from
[26:16.080 -> 26:21.920] the FIA. And it seems like, again, they've made this backroom agreement where if you DNF,
[26:21.920 -> 26:32.680] they decide you've suffered enough, we not gonna give you a penalty. I'm just gonna throw that at you. How? Why? Are you just as irate
[26:32.680 -> 26:39.280] about this as me? Yes it does not make any sense. Just because you do not
[26:39.280 -> 26:47.000] finish in race does not mean that maybe you don't get points. And, oh wow, who would be receiving the points?
[26:47.000 -> 26:49.500] Mr. Penalty Points, Pierre.
[26:49.500 -> 26:52.000] And what would happen if he would have gotten points?
[26:52.000 -> 26:54.500] He would be missing the next race.
[26:54.500 -> 27:01.000] So, there's just too many points of, like,
[27:01.000 -> 27:06.480] if this was somebody else, the odds of, like, I feel like a penalty being a
[27:06.480 -> 27:11.520] bigger deal would be put into play. Because of course, the whole Alpete situation, this was
[27:11.520 -> 27:17.840] another team. And Pierre drove into them. It would be- But that doesn't explain Logan not getting
[27:17.840 -> 27:29.200] points. Yeah, that I don't have the answer for. And if they said, we're going to, Pierre's going to get this unimportant in-race penalty,
[27:29.200 -> 27:33.160] but we're not gonna penalize his license for X, Y, Z reason,
[27:33.160 -> 27:35.040] because they have changed the penalty rules.
[27:35.040 -> 27:37.600] And I think half of Pierre's license points
[27:37.600 -> 27:39.160] technically wouldn't be there.
[27:40.040 -> 27:45.000] So I really don't think anyone would be like super upset
[27:45.180 -> 27:47.900] if the FIA came out and were like,
[27:47.900 -> 27:50.940] this is a five second penalty for causing a collision
[27:50.940 -> 27:53.960] because the regulation is if you are found
[27:53.960 -> 27:55.260] to cause a collision,
[27:55.260 -> 27:57.580] it is an automatic five second penalty.
[27:57.580 -> 27:58.700] And then underneath that,
[27:58.700 -> 28:00.500] they said no penalty points will be applied
[28:00.500 -> 28:01.480] to peers license.
[28:01.480 -> 28:04.700] I really don't think anyone would be up in arms about it.
[28:04.700 -> 28:08.960] Similarly, if they were like five second penalty for causing a collision on Logan,
[28:08.960 -> 28:11.840] it doesn't matter, he didn't get points. Okay?
[28:13.360 -> 28:17.520] But, and, yes, it's not like it's, this is like the last race of the season.
[28:17.520 -> 28:22.480] Like, okay, we'll put in a five second penalty for the next race. So when they come into Pit Stop,
[28:22.480 -> 28:31.120] they have to wait five seconds before they touch the car. Like, why can't it go to the next race? It makes no sense to me.
[28:31.120 -> 28:36.800] Because like, okay, you'll just ruin your team's whole weekend and like, that's it.
[28:36.800 -> 28:41.120] We're just, that's nothing. No penalties for that. I, yeah, I don't know.
[28:41.120 -> 28:48.440] And then Curlips gets a penalty? And so that's a thing is if they decided not to penalize Carlos because their whole thing was a will be
[28:48.440 -> 28:52.640] didn't penalize Logan and Pierre because it was a first-lap thing it's like so
[28:52.640 -> 28:57.320] it was Carlos's mm-hmm and again I'm not going to litigate whether or not Carlos
[28:57.320 -> 29:11.860] was a penalty it's the inconsistency of it you either have to give them all penalties or you give none of them penalties. And, like, Carlos' sad radio. It's the one thing I thought that, that is,
[29:11.860 -> 29:12.720] Now you remember it.
[29:12.720 -> 29:18.320] That is burned into my brain because it made my heart so sad. Yeah.
[29:18.320 -> 29:22.200] It's to his point, and Vassour said this afterwards, it was like,
[29:22.200 -> 29:24.520] that was the quickest penalty decision we've ever heard.
[29:24.520 -> 29:31.120] It took them hours to decide to not apply the rules to Fernando Alonso, but Carlos gets a five-second
[29:31.120 -> 29:37.680] penalty instantly. But no, Pierre and Logan didn't do anything wrong. Like, I just, it all comes back
[29:37.680 -> 29:43.200] to you need to be, like, and then I, again, I'm sitting there in the middle of the race going
[29:43.200 -> 29:45.040] through the rules of the regulations
[29:45.040 -> 29:49.120] to try to figure out why Carlos was a penalty and why these other ones weren't. And the answer is,
[29:49.120 -> 29:54.640] they DNF'd. And there's this stupid gentleman's agreement right now with the sport?
[29:54.640 -> 29:56.160] Yes, yes, that's exactly what it is.
[29:58.880 -> 30:03.120] All right, we're getting to the end of the Into the Wild, and I'm just getting more and more irate
[30:03.120 -> 30:09.800] and like outlandish about it. Because we have one more thing to talk about and this one
[30:09.800 -> 30:17.200] actually involves me reading a regulation. So we have to talk about the
[30:17.200 -> 30:28.560] decision to reorder the race back to the order before the second standing restart, versus keeping it at the order post restart.
[30:28.560 -> 30:32.400] Article 53.3 of the sporting regulations,
[30:32.400 -> 30:35.360] if anyone wants to go back and look at it,
[30:36.400 -> 30:39.160] and there's part of it that says,
[30:39.160 -> 30:43.000] in all cases, the order will be taken at the last point
[30:43.000 -> 30:51.660] which it was possible to determine the position of all cars. All such cars will then be permitted to resume the
[30:51.660 -> 30:56.340] on-track session." So essentially what this says, I'm gonna read it one more
[30:56.340 -> 31:00.640] time so everyone can let it sink in, in all cases the order will be taken at the
[31:00.640 -> 31:05.400] last point at which it was possible to determine the position of all cars.
[31:05.400 -> 31:10.480] So essentially, at the last possible position that the FIA was able to say that was definitely
[31:10.480 -> 31:15.520] the order, that's the order that would be selected.
[31:15.520 -> 31:29.360] Now where this gets muddy is that in the timing screens, there was essentially a order that was not the order they went with,
[31:29.360 -> 31:34.400] the order a little bit later, but before all the crashes. So really we have three
[31:34.400 -> 31:41.480] orders here. We have how they started at the grid for the restart, how the shakeout
[31:41.480 -> 31:46.880] was at the very end. There was this time in the middle, before all the crashes started,
[31:46.880 -> 31:51.120] where they'd done some mini sectors, where there was a new order.
[31:52.080 -> 31:54.320] But for some reason, they didn't go with that order.
[31:55.600 -> 31:59.520] They went with the order from the restart.
[32:01.520 -> 32:03.600] And I can't really tell them they were wrong,
[32:03.600 -> 32:08.480] because the regulation literally says...
[32:08.480 -> 32:12.080] At basically it was like, whatever you guys figured it out.
[32:12.080 -> 32:15.440] And how do I judge their judgment?
[32:15.440 -> 32:20.400] Because the regulation is just whatever you think is right.
[32:20.400 -> 32:26.080] And my question in all of this is, why did- if that is the case, if the regulation literally
[32:26.080 -> 32:29.840] says, I don't know, whatever you guys think is right, why did this take so long?
[32:29.840 -> 32:36.360] Right, they clearly make the decision, but then my other question is, okay, I can look
[32:36.360 -> 32:49.280] at a little map for a subscription that I paid for, and I can get some kind of idea of an order when it's working, which goes in and out.
[32:49.280 -> 32:54.720] But what do you mean that you gotta go to the start to figure out the order?
[32:54.720 -> 32:56.240] Like, it makes no sense.
[32:56.240 -> 33:00.880] But to your point, literally whatever you say is right, how do you not know?
[33:00.880 -> 33:06.640] How do you not know going into if this happens, if there's a crash at any start,
[33:06.640 -> 33:11.760] let alone a restart, what do you then do? Like, this is not like this has never happened before.
[33:13.520 -> 33:18.320] I think we ended the last Into the Wild segment with a very similar thing, which is why doesn't
[33:18.320 -> 33:24.640] the FIA have a PR team? Why don't they have better communication? Why don't they do any
[33:24.640 -> 33:26.000] pre-planning situation management?
[33:26.000 -> 33:29.000] Oh, we're going to have a standing restart.
[33:29.000 -> 33:32.000] Let's make sure we have all the things in place to make sure if there's a crash,
[33:32.000 -> 33:36.000] which tends to happen with cold tires and standing restart,
[33:36.000 -> 33:39.000] and chaos and people tired at the end of a long race,
[33:39.000 -> 33:41.000] like maybe I just...
[33:41.000 -> 33:44.000] They always come across.
[33:44.000 -> 33:46.380] This might not be what they're like in the back room,
[33:46.380 -> 33:49.080] but it always comes across like,
[33:49.080 -> 33:50.620] I have no idea what's going on.
[33:51.880 -> 33:52.720] I have no idea.
[33:52.720 -> 33:54.800] And everyone's like, well, why, well, why, well, why,
[33:54.800 -> 33:56.940] and everyone on TV, no one has any idea.
[33:56.940 -> 33:58.800] Everyone in the paddock, no one has any idea.
[33:58.800 -> 34:00.120] And then a decision is made
[34:00.120 -> 34:02.280] and no one understands why that decision was made.
[34:02.280 -> 34:03.300] And then there's a rule
[34:03.300 -> 34:10.640] and whatever the rule ends up being is, the FAA has the discretion to decide. And the only reason we know what the rules are
[34:10.640 -> 34:15.760] is because we have to sit there and google through the list of sporting regulations ourselves,
[34:16.400 -> 34:28.640] which is just... I have to say in no other sport I've ever followed have I had to look up a rule book ever. It's wild that I have to do it so often.
[34:28.640 -> 34:36.880] It was a big week as we've just gone over so many things that happened in Australia and we didn't even
[34:36.880 -> 34:42.000] mention Daniel Riccardo, which I know we've talked about so much in the last week and I am
[34:42.560 -> 34:47.280] only going to be ranting about Danny Rick for a
[34:47.280 -> 34:49.280] little while longer. Just kidding. I'm never gonna stop.
[34:49.280 -> 34:50.280] That's a lie.
[34:50.280 -> 34:58.200] Right. I will never stop. Hence why I'm here today to step upon my soapbox and speak directly
[34:58.200 -> 35:05.000] to Daniel Riccardo about why he should just take the Haas seat,
[35:05.200 -> 35:07.600] let Kevin go hang out with his adorable daughter
[35:07.600 -> 35:10.520] and just take the Haas seat.
[35:10.520 -> 35:12.240] And that's what I'm here today.
[35:12.240 -> 35:15.160] I have some solid points and Daniel,
[35:15.160 -> 35:16.640] I know you're listening
[35:16.640 -> 35:18.800] because you're an avid listener to the pod.
[35:18.800 -> 35:19.680] So.
[35:19.680 -> 35:20.680] I can't wait.
[35:20.680 -> 35:22.440] This is gonna be a good one.
[35:22.440 -> 35:23.660] Adding context,
[35:24.520 -> 35:25.900] Daniel Ricc Ricardo chose not to
[35:25.900 -> 35:31.060] drive because he doesn't want to drive for a back marker team. He now has said
[35:31.060 -> 35:34.460] some inklings that he's like oh I might want to be in a car again next year and
[35:34.460 -> 35:40.060] everyone's going okay but it's gonna be like the Haas right? Over to your soap
[35:40.060 -> 35:49.440] box now. Steps on soap box, box of soap. Hi, hello, Danny Rick. You're a race car driver.
[35:49.440 -> 35:58.240] You, in your free time, do motorsports. You like to go fast. So this whole job,
[35:59.120 -> 36:07.040] going fast in a car, and I understand using the word fast to describe Haas, not very common. There we go.
[36:07.920 -> 36:14.720] Hence, could be referred to as a tractor. However, Haas is still an F1 car and you can still
[36:14.720 -> 36:18.880] go fast for your job. Not out of the question.
[36:21.600 -> 36:27.320] Next, we understand that how things ended with McLaren were ugly.
[36:27.320 -> 36:28.320] No one liked it.
[36:28.320 -> 36:29.400] It did not feel good.
[36:29.400 -> 36:34.000] You make a public statement on your Instagram story about how you're committed to the cause,
[36:34.000 -> 36:39.700] and then suddenly it doesn't really seem like it was fully your decision to leave.
[36:39.700 -> 36:52.000] So don't you want to end your driving career on your terms when you really want to and not because some papaya team just kicked you out and blamed all of their problems on you?
[36:52.000 -> 36:58.000] You can come back and do it all over and decide to leave when you want to.
[37:01.000 -> 37:07.000] You're a competitive guy. I understand that. It's one of my favorite qualities about you because I am too of a competitive person.
[37:07.000 -> 37:16.000] And Haas and competitive are basically opposites. But look what Niko is doing on Saturdays.
[37:16.000 -> 37:21.000] Something's happening in that car during qualifying where he's like not completely out in Q3.
[37:21.000 -> 37:25.880] You could at least make a show of Saturdays and have a whole ton of
[37:25.880 -> 37:31.400] fun during qualifying, depending if qualifying stays Saturdays, whatever. So there could
[37:31.400 -> 37:38.160] still be some sparkle there. You can find the magic at Haas. We know you love money
[37:38.160 -> 37:46.880] because that's been, honestly, we know the real driving force behind a lot of career decisions that you've made.
[37:46.880 -> 37:48.380] And that's okay!
[37:48.380 -> 37:51.240] Because money's great, money is fun.
[37:51.240 -> 37:54.520] You love money sometimes more than you love being competitive.
[37:54.520 -> 37:55.880] And I don't judge you.
[37:55.880 -> 37:59.920] I judge you a little bit for that, but I don't hold it unbelievably against you because you're
[37:59.920 -> 38:01.040] a human.
[38:01.040 -> 38:06.000] I would absolutely love to be earning 18 million dollars for basically taking a gap year.
[38:06.000 -> 38:12.000] Right, yeah, and to just like run around with Red Bull and record random things.
[38:12.000 -> 38:17.000] Like, stand there and diffuse the tension between Max and Checo.
[38:17.000 -> 38:19.000] He's a very expensive therapist.
[38:19.000 -> 38:22.000] Create more tension. I love it. It's great.
[38:22.000 -> 38:27.520] Being rich looks so much fun. And here's the thing.
[38:27.520 -> 38:34.160] I think Haas, not like they're going to give you a paying you minimum wage. Haas, I think
[38:34.160 -> 38:51.640] would find proper funds in their budget to allocate to a salary for you for probably probably too overpriced contract. So come on back. I don't need to go into the PR marketing
[38:51.640 -> 38:58.560] rant of just you're a PR genius. So the only thing I will touch upon, think of the gold
[38:58.560 -> 39:08.920] viral guaranteed content that you could have just by putting Daniel Riccardo and Gunther in the same video. Done. Great. Imagine that. Non-stop. Every single weekend.
[39:11.040 -> 39:16.000] Competing at Haas is basically like your senior year when you only take electives.
[39:16.880 -> 39:24.000] The bar is so unbelievably low that you would have to screw up so bad to be considered a disappointment.
[39:23.840 -> 39:24.840] would have to screw up so bad to be considered a disappointment.
[39:31.440 -> 39:32.560] So coming back again, bar is so low that people will just be so happy that you're there.
[39:41.880 -> 39:42.640] So in closing, because I have to be realistic as if Danny Rick is listening to this entire thing, and this is how he's deciding if he really wants to pursue the grid.
[39:45.360 -> 39:46.000] A seat in a competitive team, at least next year,
[39:53.600 -> 40:07.400] not going to be available. So if your heart at all is still on the grid, just take the damn seat, please. You only have the relevancy and this opportunity for so long before the younger drivers become more relevant and no one's
[40:07.400 -> 40:10.800] looking to have you in a seat anymore.
[40:10.800 -> 40:16.520] But honestly, after this weekend and seeing how happy he was, if your mental health is
[40:16.520 -> 40:21.120] so much better off the grid, be the PR man off track.
[40:21.120 -> 40:22.760] I support you.
[40:22.760 -> 40:27.040] Become a commentator on F1 TV and I will also be happy. Thank you.
[40:29.120 -> 40:33.760] I really enjoyed your soapbox. I was laughing through the whole thing. I had to put myself
[40:33.760 -> 40:41.760] on mute so you can get your full soapbox moment. But I hope you feel good and I hope he listens to
[40:41.760 -> 40:47.680] you. I am shocked though that on your list of rationale to take the Haas seat,
[40:48.320 -> 40:54.480] one of them isn't that he can just yell Nico Hulkenberg's name at all points.
[40:55.760 -> 41:01.920] It felt like it was going to fall under the PR area, and if I needed to pick like what would
[41:01.920 -> 41:06.720] create the better content like driving home is like the potential of like,
[41:06.720 -> 41:09.040] think of what you and Gunther could do,
[41:09.040 -> 41:10.840] standing in front of big boats,
[41:10.840 -> 41:15.080] the Miami GP content could be unbelievable.
[41:15.080 -> 41:15.920] Really?
[41:15.920 -> 41:18.580] You could not get three more random personalities in a room
[41:18.580 -> 41:21.180] if it's Nico, Daniel and Gunther?
[41:22.040 -> 41:22.880] Right?
[41:24.200 -> 41:29.920] Unbelievable. It probably goes without saying that I'm very embedded
[41:29.920 -> 41:36.320] in F1 news. A, because I can't half like anything. Anything I like needs to become
[41:36.320 -> 41:41.960] the personality. I obsess over it. Which I know you can relate to. But also B, because
[41:41.960 -> 41:45.140] of this podcast, so I do spend a lot of time reading and learning
[41:45.140 -> 41:49.180] what's going on and like staying up to date on various things.
[41:49.180 -> 41:53.500] Yet I can find zero information about Ferrari's development plans.
[41:53.500 -> 41:58.460] Ferrari is the fourth fastest car in the field, and it looked like the Alpine could have been
[41:58.460 -> 42:01.720] faster at points this weekend.
[42:01.720 -> 42:03.940] They have zero reliability right now.
[42:03.940 -> 42:08.040] Charles has DNF'd in two of the three races.
[42:08.040 -> 42:13.800] And I just, I've spent a lot of time in prep for this recording, trying to find, okay,
[42:13.800 -> 42:14.800] what's their plan?
[42:14.800 -> 42:17.560] I wanted to be able to come here and discuss their development plan and when we're going
[42:17.560 -> 42:20.640] to see things, because I can tell you right now that we're going to see things from Mercedes
[42:20.640 -> 42:21.640] and Imola.
[42:21.640 -> 42:24.520] We're going to see stuff from McLaren, just next race at Baku.
[42:24.520 -> 42:28.560] Like, like the teams that are struggling besides Ferrari, I feel like I know what the deal is.
[42:29.760 -> 42:32.320] What is going on with the Ferraris? I wasn't able to find it anywhere,
[42:32.320 -> 42:34.560] please tell me you were able to find something.
[42:34.560 -> 42:41.840] I was not. I was also looking up just any kind of inkling that wasn't,
[42:42.480 -> 42:47.920] that was from a reliable source and wasn't just like, oh, we heard this from this.
[42:47.920 -> 42:50.940] I could not find a quote from anybody from Ferrari
[42:50.940 -> 42:52.560] discussing potential plans.
[42:53.520 -> 42:56.280] So I know we're like, what's going on at Ferrari?
[42:56.280 -> 42:58.680] I kind of think Ferrari is also like,
[42:58.680 -> 43:00.680] what's going on at Ferrari?
[43:00.680 -> 43:01.500] Like I think that-
[43:01.500 -> 43:04.160] There's no quote because there's no plan.
[43:04.160 -> 43:08.920] Because there's no plan or there's so many plans that there isn't one and there's maybe
[43:08.920 -> 43:14.280] like one room that maybe they know and there's like a whiteboard where there's like four
[43:14.280 -> 43:15.280] plans.
[43:15.280 -> 43:22.360] Plan A, plan B, plan C, plan D. And everyone is just outside being like, we don't know
[43:22.360 -> 43:26.000] except for those people in the room and those people in the room are not talking to anybody.
[43:26.000 -> 43:26.920] Who are those people?
[43:26.920 -> 43:28.160] I have no idea.
[43:28.160 -> 43:30.600] It's like the puppets of the Prancing Horses,
[43:30.600 -> 43:34.000] but I don't think anyone really knows.
[43:34.000 -> 43:36.440] That would be such a change for Ferrari.
[43:36.440 -> 43:39.840] I'm just so used to us knowing everything about Ferrari
[43:39.840 -> 43:42.840] and because everything leaks or everything's communicated
[43:42.840 -> 43:44.680] or at least something is made up.
[43:44.680 -> 43:46.980] So then they have to correct the story. I
[43:48.280 -> 43:52.060] For the first time in a long time for my yellow sector notes later
[43:52.060 -> 43:57.720] I had to struggle to find a note about Ferrari. There's normally so much going on. I
[43:59.560 -> 44:03.100] Genuinely, I know they brought a small upgrade to Jetta
[44:03.880 -> 44:05.500] But that's not a,
[44:05.500 -> 44:08.500] oh, we've really slid back, here's the plan.
[44:10.500 -> 44:16.500] I don't, again, I don't know if it was, and just like, Charles is,
[44:17.500 -> 44:22.000] it's hard to even have him as like part of the conversation besides just being like,
[44:24.000 -> 44:25.000] power unit,
[44:25.240 -> 44:27.120] oh, like this is still a thing.
[44:27.120 -> 44:29.080] And you know, we're not here to speculate
[44:29.080 -> 44:30.880] like what's going on with him
[44:30.880 -> 44:33.120] and where he's driving, anything like that.
[44:33.120 -> 44:34.520] But just like, there's not,
[44:34.520 -> 44:37.760] we can't even have the performance of his car
[44:37.760 -> 44:41.520] as like a real discussion of like where they're at
[44:41.520 -> 44:45.000] because we haven't seen it.
[44:45.440 -> 44:48.680] When we were creating the show notes and we were like,
[44:48.680 -> 44:50.200] well, we definitely have to talk about Ferrari
[44:50.200 -> 44:54.780] because it's a big deal that Ferrari is the fourth,
[44:54.780 -> 44:58.840] maybe fifth fastest car right now for the last two races.
[44:58.840 -> 44:59.680] That's a big deal.
[44:59.680 -> 45:01.520] They've really slid back.
[45:01.520 -> 45:03.940] And then we were both like, okay, we'll go research
[45:03.940 -> 45:05.280] like what the plan is like,
[45:05.280 -> 45:09.920] make this a pot. I'm glad it wasn't just me. I couldn't find anything.
[45:12.000 -> 45:17.280] Ferrari, tell us the plan. Are you abandoning the car concept? Like someone tell us what's going on.
[45:18.720 -> 45:23.760] It'll be interesting when we finally do get some kind of statement upgrade and just like
[45:23.760 -> 45:25.360] some acknowledgement of something it
[45:25.360 -> 45:29.280] kind of also feels like when the FIA like finally makes a decision I feel like that's kind of gonna
[45:29.280 -> 45:34.160] be like this similar thing of when Ferrari lets us know when they're gonna update the car or
[45:34.160 -> 45:39.280] something and you know well if you know maybe Charles gets the upgraded not Carlos well will
[45:39.280 -> 45:45.660] we see it do anything we don't know like doesn't- it's so frustrating because I-
[45:45.660 -> 45:50.800] they're Ferrari. They're supposed to be up at the front. This should be a
[45:50.800 -> 45:57.640] no-brainer. And I'm just, every weekend, like, hello? What's happening?
[45:57.640 -> 45:59.640] What's going on?
[45:59.640 -> 46:05.600] Gridwalk, the show that's just constantly asking for better PR and communications.
[46:05.600 -> 46:08.600] It's not that hard.
[46:08.600 -> 46:13.000] I would be fine if they were even lying to us, like, this is the plan.
[46:13.000 -> 46:17.600] I couldn't even find, to your point, a quote that was, like, anything.
[46:17.600 -> 46:23.100] Yeah, lips are really tied at Ferrari.
[46:23.100 -> 46:28.060] And it's more concerning to me than it is like, oh, they got
[46:28.060 -> 46:31.680] something good. Like, I don't think I don't know it. I don't
[46:31.680 -> 46:36.680] have a good feeling about the lack of communication.
[46:37.760 -> 46:40.640] Well, I will I'll give the positive spin, even though I
[46:40.640 -> 46:47.200] feel exactly how you're feeling. Maybe it's showing that Fred is able to make an actual impact on the
[46:47.200 -> 46:50.920] team. If he's able to come in there and actually keep everyone
[46:50.960 -> 46:56.400] a Ferrari type lift, that's impressive to me. And I don't
[46:56.400 -> 46:57.760] know if that's what's actually happening.
[46:58.120 -> 47:02.320] Right, right. But let's play the world play like in the world of
[47:02.360 -> 47:04.920] that is what's happening. It would be Wow, you know, he's
[47:04.920 -> 47:05.800] really following through.
[47:05.800 -> 47:10.640] It's exactly all he was talking about before fully starting and in the middle
[47:10.640 -> 47:14.040] of the off season of communication is a big problem, communication, this, that.
[47:14.280 -> 47:19.400] And yeah, I think Ferrari being Ferrari and Italian media and, you know, people
[47:19.400 -> 47:24.040] who know people like things can get out and people can say things, but you know,
[47:24.040 -> 47:28.080] what if you have a leader who's really serious about that and says they're gonna crack down on and
[47:28.080 -> 47:34.760] you know make it a tight well-run ship but I don't feel like that's what's
[47:34.760 -> 47:51.920] happening but sure I hope for Ferrari that is what's happening you know Charles you know last year Max DNF'd in Iran and Australia so hang on
[47:51.920 -> 47:58.360] to that for you look you have a long f1 spring break hang on to that oh I mean I
[47:58.360 -> 48:05.240] don't I was thinking yeah yeah yeah this. To clarify, I don't feel that way and
[48:05.980 -> 48:09.120] don't believe that will happen, but just to ha ha ha
[48:10.240 -> 48:14.600] Every race week we come with some podiums of the weekend that
[48:15.200 -> 48:20.200] Normally don't have a lot to do with on-track action, but just things we would like to award
[48:20.200 -> 48:24.920] I think I'm gonna start with my quotes of the weekend
[48:25.000 -> 48:30.000] All right, P3, when Julian Palmer said,
[48:30.000 -> 48:34.000] I forgot that Botas was here this weekend.
[48:34.000 -> 48:38.000] Boo!
[48:38.000 -> 48:42.000] How could you forget about Valtteri Botas?
[48:42.000 -> 48:45.840] It makes me sad, because I could never forget about him, especially in his
[48:45.840 -> 48:54.000] honorary home of Australia. Yeah, he had a great, great off-track week, a rough on-track week. It
[48:54.000 -> 49:00.160] just felt like peak Julian trying to fill for the 45 minutes when the FIA was just trying to figure
[49:00.160 -> 49:05.680] their stuff out, and he seemed just as tired as me, which is why I thought it was deserving of an award.
[49:05.680 -> 49:10.200] Oh yes, I respect the hustle and it was very hard to fill that time.
[49:10.200 -> 49:15.560] I just love VB and will just never forget him, but yeah, no, it was very funny trying
[49:15.560 -> 49:16.560] to make the content.
[49:16.560 -> 49:23.800] All right, uh, P2, I'm gonna give one quote here, but it was really a collection of quotes,
[49:23.800 -> 49:26.180] which was Lewis on the radio to Bono when he said,
[49:26.260 -> 49:27.680] how do you get back here?
[49:27.760 -> 49:31.100] But really, it was just the series of things he said
[49:31.180 -> 49:34.060] as the race was restarting for that one safety lap.
[49:34.140 -> 49:37.100] It was all just questions of confusion of what was going on.
[49:39.060 -> 49:40.360] How do you get back here?
[49:40.440 -> 49:42.940] -♪
[49:43.020 -> 49:44.980] It really just felt like a sitcom.
[49:45.400 -> 49:49.080] Like, it did feel like there should have been, like, a laughing track throughout the race of just felt like a sitcom. Like it did feel like there should have been like a laughing track throughout the race
[49:49.080 -> 49:52.840] of just like, da da da da da da da.
[49:52.840 -> 49:55.840] Lewis going, who's behind me right now?
[49:55.840 -> 49:59.400] Bono going, Alonzo, how did you get back here?
[49:59.400 -> 50:00.400] Comedic perfection.
[50:00.400 -> 50:03.600] Great photo of the weekend.
[50:03.600 -> 50:06.600] And P1 was again Julian Palmer.
[50:07.100 -> 50:09.100] What are they investigating? Themselves?
[50:10.500 -> 50:11.700] Fantastic.
[50:16.100 -> 50:18.500] Just saying what we were all thinking at the time.
[50:20.400 -> 50:24.300] It was one of those moments of really like, did he just say that?
[50:22.520 -> 50:24.200] It was one of those moments of really like, did he just say that?
[50:26.520 -> 50:30.080] I just, I didn't give an honorable mention,
[50:30.080 -> 50:31.880] but I just thought of one,
[50:31.880 -> 50:35.720] which is the amount of times that Alex and Julian
[50:35.720 -> 50:38.200] in the booth just kept talking about how long it's been
[50:38.200 -> 50:42.600] since David Coulthard left the booth to go do interviews
[50:42.600 -> 50:45.000] for the podium finishers.
[50:45.620 -> 50:46.460] They just took me like-
[50:46.460 -> 50:47.540] He's still standing there.
[50:47.540 -> 50:50.260] Yeah, well, he left 15 minutes ago.
[50:50.260 -> 50:51.940] Well, he left 30 minutes ago.
[50:51.940 -> 50:54.060] Wow, he's been standing there for 45 minutes
[50:54.060 -> 50:55.500] and just went on and on.
[50:55.500 -> 50:57.180] It was really a good time.
[50:57.180 -> 50:58.020] Those were my top-
[50:58.020 -> 50:59.300] It's like, he didn't come back yet.
[50:59.300 -> 51:00.140] He's still there.
[51:00.140 -> 51:00.980] Got it, good.
[51:00.980 -> 51:02.420] Got it, we know, thanks.
[51:02.420 -> 51:03.940] I wonder if he got a tea.
[51:03.940 -> 51:06.320] Like, you know that they were really filling when they said,
[51:06.320 -> 51:09.120] I wonder if David Goldfield got a tea.
[51:11.440 -> 51:13.280] And those are my quotes of the weekend.
[51:13.760 -> 51:15.000] Oh, fantastic.
[51:15.000 -> 51:16.200] Well, I have,
[51:17.440 -> 51:20.600] I have my favorite wholesome moments of the weekend.
[51:20.600 -> 51:22.320] Basically moments that just like really
[51:23.280 -> 51:27.000] tug on the heartstrings. They're not all Danny Rick moments,
[51:27.000 -> 51:29.640] although I did really want to do an all Danny Rick podium, but I
[51:29.640 -> 51:31.160] was on my soapbox enough today.
[51:31.600 -> 51:35.720] Yeah, you had an all Danny Rick segment. So I really think
[51:36.000 -> 51:40.320] right, right. So that's why he doesn't have a whole podium. So
[51:40.320 -> 51:47.340] wholesome moments throughout the entire weekend. I do want to start with an honorary mention
[51:47.340 -> 51:50.820] of one of the days this weekend,
[51:50.820 -> 51:52.800] Danny Rick was driving in and they have all the fans.
[51:52.800 -> 51:53.680] There was a bunch of signs.
[51:53.680 -> 51:55.220] There was one fan that had a sign that says,
[51:55.220 -> 51:57.960] I wrote a song for Daniel Riccardo.
[51:57.960 -> 51:59.600] And then when you flip the sign over,
[51:59.600 -> 52:02.900] it says Danny Rick, and then there's a QR code.
[52:02.900 -> 52:08.840] And Danny Rick took a picture of the kid's sign and then also took a picture of the QR code and posted all of
[52:08.840 -> 52:15.240] this on either his Instagram or on the Daniel3JPEG account. It's so so cute.
[52:15.240 -> 52:20.320] Just wholesome, adorable content. I gotta believe that that made that fans year
[52:20.320 -> 52:26.240] and interacting with him than being on the Instagram. That's so cute, I didn't know about that.
[52:26.240 -> 52:34.960] He's so adorable. P3 of wholesome moments. Yuki, entire fan interaction this whole weekend.
[52:35.600 -> 52:41.280] There was videos of him jumping barriers to go meet fans and then Alphatari had a family of
[52:41.280 -> 52:45.800] and adorable tiny children who wrote fan letters to Yuki, and they brought
[52:45.800 -> 52:50.280] the family to meet Yuki and said, why wouldn't we just let them deliver this letter too?
[52:50.280 -> 52:54.760] So Yuki had some incredibly great fan interaction moments.
[52:54.760 -> 53:01.400] So shout out to Yuki for going the extra mile and really making the fans feel special.
[53:01.400 -> 53:03.920] I can't believe he jumped that barrier.
[53:03.920 -> 53:05.200] That was really impressive.
[53:05.200 -> 53:10.720] And all the security was like, what is he doing? What? They were just like, it was Mr. Krebs name
[53:10.720 -> 53:17.520] everywhere. Yeah. It was no question. He's like, I'm here. Yeah. Crazy. But super hops.
[53:19.360 -> 53:29.780] A wholesome moment. P2. Oscar scoring points at his home race just I can't imagine it's
[53:29.780 -> 53:35.160] like writing a movie especially not expecting the Clarence to have the
[53:35.160 -> 53:38.460] weekend at all that they had and that's where we'll leave that but very happy
[53:38.460 -> 53:45.300] for Oscar supposed to be in the points! Okay. Doesn't matter.
[53:45.300 -> 53:48.400] I mean matters for so many reasons, but when it comes down
[53:48.400 -> 53:48.900] to the whole-
[53:48.900 -> 53:49.600] But he'll hold them.
[53:50.100 -> 53:50.700] Right.
[53:51.900 -> 53:52.200] Yes.
[53:52.200 -> 53:54.900] Home race, points, very great.
[53:54.900 -> 53:56.600] I'm sure his parents were thrilled.
[53:57.000 -> 53:58.700] Controversial podium here.
[53:59.800 -> 54:02.700] Oh, yeah, again, clarifying why it's wholesome moments that
[54:02.700 -> 54:05.800] made my heart strings go, yay.
[54:05.800 -> 54:06.400] Okay.
[54:06.400 -> 54:11.700] And P1, again, wholesome moments for me.
[54:12.600 -> 54:17.200] Any moment that Danny Rick was on TV during the race or qualifying and
[54:17.200 -> 54:21.100] people started to cheer and then he saw he was on TV and he had big,
[54:21.100 -> 54:24.700] big smiles and it was adorable and it was great and it just showed
[54:24.700 -> 54:30.760] positive mental health growth and again my P1 my podium wholesome moments
[54:30.760 -> 54:36.000] thank you very much I thought that was very wholesome because he just he did
[54:36.000 -> 54:51.720] seem genuinely happy all right I have one more podium. Woo! It's top team social media posts of the weekend.
[54:51.720 -> 54:59.720] In P3, it's the video that F1 and Alpine put out of Esteban and Pierre cooking burgers
[54:59.720 -> 55:01.720] for Jack Duhon.
[55:01.720 -> 55:07.000] We love creative, creative content.
[55:07.000 -> 55:14.760] Yeah, really great content and I appreciate that Alpine has decided the solution is Jack.
[55:14.760 -> 55:17.200] Just put Jack in the middle and everything will be fine.
[55:17.200 -> 55:26.400] P1 and P2, I went back and forth on what should be P1 and what should be P2. But I went with P2, Darth Toto.
[55:34.400 -> 55:40.240] I love Darth Toto. I love Darth Toto, especially then when it's next to the Darth Kermit.
[55:40.240 -> 55:46.680] Yep, yep, yep. It was fantastic. Good job Mercedes. And in P1
[55:47.800 -> 55:51.720] Alfa Romeo posting question marks as their team finishing positions
[55:52.400 -> 55:56.620] Because it was just how we all felt. It was their normal graphic and a bunch of huh?
[56:02.000 -> 56:05.000] Really just knew the vibes. They just felt the vibes.
[56:05.000 -> 56:12.000] I also could love all of those post race things because you could tell how the teams were feeling.
[56:12.000 -> 56:18.000] The teams like Alpha or Mayo were just like, whoo, this chaos doesn't involve us. Let's be funny online.
[56:18.000 -> 56:25.000] And the teams that it did involve were very silent and did not find it as funny as the rest of us did.
[56:25.000 -> 56:36.000] No, they definitely did not. And then you could also just tell when some, you know, social media admins were like really writing their like 11th cup of coffee and just needed it all to end.
[56:36.000 -> 56:43.000] And said, we just need to tweet this. We need to get the post race graphic out and then we'll go to bed. And I felt that.
[56:43.000 -> 56:45.920] That's kind of what your tweets probably sounded like.
[56:47.520 -> 56:48.720] That's what they felt like.
[56:54.080 -> 57:02.800] So especially after Jedha and we- with Esteban and Fernando and starting at the grid, we've- I feel
[57:02.800 -> 57:09.000] like almost exhausted the topic of not lining up correctly on the grid as a penalty.
[57:09.000 -> 57:21.000] And then I saw photos online from multiple angles of Max lined up, not lined up, past the line.
[57:21.000 -> 57:28.760] I can't figure out why the way that Max had lined up was not a penalty,
[57:28.760 -> 57:34.560] but then Esteban and Fernando so clearly was.
[57:34.560 -> 57:43.000] Yeah, so we could probably call this entire show this segment, but this segment is, We
[57:43.000 -> 57:47.040] Read the Rules for You. And I'm gonna
[57:47.040 -> 57:51.040] read the rule right now that I unfortunately had to look up to figure
[57:51.040 -> 57:56.680] out why Max wasn't penalized, but Esteban and Alonso were, and hopefully this will
[57:56.680 -> 58:07.020] help, or we'll just continue to be confused. So there are three different ways you can be penalized for an incorrect
[58:07.020 -> 58:14.020] starting location. A is you moved at this you moved I'm not even gonna read this
[58:14.020 -> 58:20.760] you move too early you jump-started I think we all get that one. B you position
[58:20.760 -> 58:27.360] your car in a way where the transponder that's reading your start time can't read your start time.
[58:28.160 -> 58:30.960] So basically, again, a secondary false start,
[58:31.760 -> 58:34.420] because they can't even judge whether or not you false started.
[58:35.440 -> 58:37.440] But then part C
[58:38.000 -> 58:40.000] is what we're talking about here,
[58:40.640 -> 58:41.680] and it's
[58:41.680 -> 58:47.280] any part of the contact patch of its front tires outside the lines
[58:47.280 -> 58:55.900] front and sides at the time of the start signal. I'll read it one more time
[58:55.900 -> 59:01.920] because a lot of words mumbled. Any part of the contact patch of its front tires
[59:01.920 -> 59:07.760] outside of the lines front and sides at the time of the start signal.
[59:07.760 -> 59:16.000] So essentially what this is saying is that the contact patch of the tire needs to be outside
[59:16.000 -> 59:31.040] the lines, which can be inferred as if any part of the tire's contact patch is touching the lines, then it's in. So, tennis rules,
[59:31.040 -> 59:36.480] essentially. So, if the, you know, except it's tennis rules, except they haven't implemented
[59:36.480 -> 59:45.920] the technology for the replay. So, essentially, interpreting the rules that way, because so much of F1 is interpreting
[59:45.920 -> 59:51.960] the rules that way, if outside means not touching the line, now, you could argue that the grid
[59:51.960 -> 59:57.180] lines are pretty thick, so outside could mean, theoretically, also touching the line, but
[59:57.180 -> 01:00:03.120] I'm interpreting them the way the FIA applied the rules this week, which is as long as the
[01:00:03.120 -> 01:00:05.360] front tires both have contact patches on
[01:00:05.360 -> 01:00:10.600] the line, technically the rules are followed. Max was definitely playing with
[01:00:10.600 -> 01:00:14.840] fire though, because when you see the video, he stops correctly in the grid and
[01:00:14.840 -> 01:00:20.280] then chose to inch forward to get that little edge, which is totally fair, but if
[01:00:20.280 -> 01:00:25.000] he literally just, like like just a little breath,
[01:00:25.580 -> 01:00:29.080] he would have been against the rules
[01:00:29.080 -> 01:00:31.000] according to the rules.
[01:00:31.000 -> 01:00:34.520] But that is unbelievably confusing still.
[01:00:34.520 -> 01:00:37.240] And again, why did I have to look up the rules
[01:00:37.240 -> 01:00:38.760] so many times this week?
[01:00:40.360 -> 01:00:44.160] So can it be like a one tires touching?
[01:00:49.720 -> 01:00:50.480] Or is it like both have to be like only touching a little bit like I?
[01:00:53.340 -> 01:00:54.800] It just seems like there's so much like
[01:00:57.120 -> 01:00:58.280] interpretation perspective my
[01:01:00.320 -> 01:01:11.060] Understanding and hold on now. I have to reread it again My understanding is that the difference between Alonzo and Ocon's penalties is that one of their tires was out the side and was not touching. Therefore, so I think you need
[01:01:11.060 -> 01:01:19.380] both tires inside or touching. Not outside because all, yes, because it says tires. So
[01:01:19.380 -> 01:01:26.560] any part of the contact patch of its front tires. So the tires cannot be outside of the line.
[01:01:26.560 -> 01:01:29.240] And they're interpreting that as if one tire
[01:01:29.240 -> 01:01:31.480] is touching the line, but the other one is not,
[01:01:31.480 -> 01:01:33.440] then you're outside the lines
[01:01:33.440 -> 01:01:36.560] because you're supposed to be within your grid slot.
[01:01:36.560 -> 01:01:38.000] Why can't it just be like,
[01:01:38.000 -> 01:01:41.000] be in front of white line of grid slot?
[01:01:41.960 -> 01:01:43.440] Well, my whole thing is,
[01:01:43.440 -> 01:01:45.240] why can't you just implement
[01:01:45.240 -> 01:01:48.520] the technology to do this?
[01:01:48.520 -> 01:01:51.360] Like, we shouldn't be like a steward needs to go there
[01:01:51.360 -> 01:01:56.360] and like zoom in on the image, like, oh, what is, yeah.
[01:01:56.360 -> 01:01:57.520] It was on Twitter,
[01:01:57.520 -> 01:02:00.800] like zooms in from every grandstand perspective.
[01:02:00.800 -> 01:02:04.180] Right, that's essentially what they do a lot of the time.
[01:02:04.180 -> 01:02:07.460] When again, tennis, like we can
[01:02:07.460 -> 01:02:14.160] figure out if a tennis ball touches a fraction of a smaller white line.
[01:02:14.160 -> 01:02:18.400] So I really think we can put sensors in these tires to figure this out.
[01:02:18.400 -> 01:02:19.400] I know that technology is there.
[01:02:19.400 -> 01:02:20.400] F1 is too poor.
[01:02:20.400 -> 01:02:23.640] F1 is, they don't have the money.
[01:02:23.640 -> 01:02:28.240] They cannot spend the money. Can't do it. Nope. Nope.
[01:02:28.240 -> 01:02:32.400] There you go. We read the regulations for you. Hopefully it's slightly clearer if you're
[01:02:32.400 -> 01:02:39.280] listening right now. If it's not, we're just as confused as you. Welcome back to Yellow Sector
[01:02:39.280 -> 01:02:43.280] Notes. Not the fastest walk around F1, but we will complete a full lap around the paddock,
[01:02:43.280 -> 01:02:45.920] hitting every F1 garage.
[01:02:45.920 -> 01:02:49.480] RedBull have officially announced their licensing deal with Yeti, which we did hear about a
[01:02:49.480 -> 01:02:52.760] couple months ago, but it's official now because they posted a photo of Max with his
[01:02:52.760 -> 01:02:55.520] trophy and champagne in a Yeti cooler.
[01:02:55.520 -> 01:02:59.920] I personally associate Yeti coolers with fishing and college fraternities, so I'm excited
[01:02:59.920 -> 01:03:04.000] to see the brand match and the content they will create.
[01:03:04.000 -> 01:03:08.760] Aston Martin released a merch line with Fernando Alonso's merch company, Kamoa.
[01:03:08.760 -> 01:03:13.120] Mercedes released a special tie-dye merch line this weekend.
[01:03:13.120 -> 01:03:14.480] This was made for me.
[01:03:14.480 -> 01:03:19.000] I completely believe that their merch team had me in mind for this.
[01:03:19.000 -> 01:03:20.200] I love it.
[01:03:20.200 -> 01:03:21.960] More tie-dye, please.
[01:03:21.960 -> 01:03:27.280] Mercedes makes really fun fan merch. So I just want it to be purple.
[01:03:27.280 -> 01:03:32.200] It's gray and white. I want a purple variant. Please.
[01:03:32.200 -> 01:03:36.360] Yes. Yeah. No, I'm being too picky. I'm being greedy. You're right.
[01:03:36.360 -> 01:03:41.520] Charlotte Clare had his very expensive watch stolen last April and we got news
[01:03:41.520 -> 01:03:50.400] this week that the police arrested suspects and with that they released footage of Charles chasing after the thieves like he was Batman.
[01:03:50.400 -> 01:03:55.160] Alphian is currently in hiding after one of their drivers took out their other
[01:03:55.160 -> 01:03:59.440] driver at the race this weekend so from my note for them relates to things that
[01:03:59.440 -> 01:04:04.160] happened before the race. Don't let the chaos of the weekend distract you from
[01:04:04.160 -> 01:04:06.080] the fact that Esteban debuted
[01:04:06.080 -> 01:04:12.160] a new jacket this weekend, which if you're also an Esti Bestie fan like we are, that's a big deal.
[01:04:12.160 -> 01:04:18.560] It's a really big deal. McLaren boss Zach Brown wants to find a way to be competitive with the
[01:04:18.560 -> 01:04:25.340] top dogs of F1 this year, so he challenged Christian Horner himself to a race at Silverstone, and Toto
[01:04:25.340 -> 01:04:27.520] Wolfe to a boxing match in Vegas.
[01:04:27.520 -> 01:04:33.320] I have to say it's a creative way to try to win a championship this year.
[01:04:33.320 -> 01:04:38.520] Rocket is countersuing Williams for damages to his reputation in a Florida court.
[01:04:38.520 -> 01:04:41.680] Well, I could just leave it there because that's a sentence.
[01:04:41.680 -> 01:04:48.860] I will remind you that Rocket lost a suit in London court to Williams in the last year because they failed to pay their
[01:04:48.860 -> 01:04:55.780] title sponsorship in 2020. This is a countersuit in Florida courts.
[01:04:55.780 -> 01:05:01.660] Oh, Nico Harkenberry is vocally upset about how the Australian GP was run.
[01:05:01.660 -> 01:05:05.280] Nico, now you haven't been in the sport for a while. Welcome. This
[01:05:05.280 -> 01:05:10.520] is how it is now. Vivi's race worn helmet from the Australian GP is up for auction on
[01:05:10.520 -> 01:05:22.160] F1 athletics until April 11th. All the proceeds will go to the non-for-profit Save the Children.
[01:05:22.160 -> 01:05:25.760] Nick was shooting content for the Auto Meal Club of Monaco early this week.
[01:05:26.320 -> 01:05:32.080] And on that note, that's the grid walk for April 6, 2023 completed. How was my second time today,
[01:05:32.080 -> 01:05:38.160] Nicole? Much faster than the final lap of the Australian GP behind the safety car.
[01:05:41.440 -> 01:05:43.840] No, not saying much, but it was very fast.
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