Podcast: Grid Walk
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Silly season hasn’t even officially started yet episode 26 of Grid Walk is full of F1 silliness! The German and Italian media have the Formula 1 rumor mill going! Are there new F1 teams joining the grid? Did multiple teams break the cost cap during the 2022 F1 Season? Find out all of this and MORE with Briana and Nicole on this episode of Grid Walk!
Google Translate Corner is back with a double whammy this week! The German media has reported that 2 applications for new F1 teams on the grid have been accepted. The whispers say the applications belong to Andretti Autosport and Hitech Grand Prix even though 4 applications were submitted in total to the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA). Formula One Management (FOM) and the current F1 teams are not going to be happy about this… How would the addition of 2 more F1 teams affect the F1 fan experience of watching a race?
While Grid Walk’s Italian is better than German, we’re still thankful for Google Translate to give us the details of the F1 budget cap rumors. What does F1 President Stefano Domenicalli say about sporting penalties in F1? Is it just a better idea for F1 teams to break the cost cap in order to catch up to Oracle Red Bull Racing, especially if the FIA’s consequences aren’t tough? Money is tied to race pace, which is how we got here in the first place!
The Hungarian Grand Prix is the penultimate F1 race before the summer break a.k.a silly season! Grid Walk is here with a full preview of the Hungarian Grand Prix and you know there is a Pirelli Tire graphic involved. How is it possible that Oracle Red Bull Racing is bringing upgrades to Hungary? Will Mclaren Formula 1 Team be able to maintain their pace from Silverstone? What is the brand new F1 Qualifying format we will see on Saturday? Will F1 fans see a Qualifying session without rain? Even though Christian Horner says otherwise, should Sergio Perez be nervous?
Briana and Nicole bring you their Hungarian F1 Grand Prix Predictions! Did Briana return to picking Max Verstappen as the race winner? Where will BWT Alpine F1 Team driver Esteban Ocon fall? Someone picks a Scuderia Ferrari driver?? Is it Charles Leclerlc or Carlos Sainz?? In honor of Daniel Ricciardo’s return to the grid there are special Daniel Ricciardo Predictions!
Grid Walk is a weekly Formula 1 show that releases every Thursday. For daily F1 content follow @gridwalkshow on all social media platforms.
IndyCar Videos:
00:00 Formation Lap
02:18 Rumor: New Teams Approved By the FIA
18:54 Rumor: 3 Formula 1 Teams Broke the Cost Cap in 2022
26:16 F1 Hungarian Grand Prix Preview
27:22 New Qualifying Format
34:27 Hungaroring Details
39:44 Do We Want Rain?
41:06 How Much Pressure Is Sergio Perez Under This Weekend?
45:50 Timeline for Checo to Lose his Red Bull Seat
48:50 Grand Prix Predictions
59:42 Special Daniel Ricciardo Predictions
01:01:50 Yellow Sector Notes
# Gridwalk: Voices of F1 - Episode 26: A Deep Dive into Formula One's Hottest Topics
- Hosts Briana L. Klein and Nicole Katz kick off the 26th episode of Gridwalk, marking half a year of insightful discussions on Formula One.
## Main Segments:
### 1. Prize Picks Promotion:
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### 2. Interview with Matthew Marsh:
- The episode features an interview with Matthew Marsh, a prominent voice in Formula One broadcasting and a consultant in the world of motorsport.
- Matthew shares his unique journey from being a commentator to establishing Acuity Drapageon, a company that helps brands connect with motorsport events.
- He discusses how he leverages his credibility as a broadcaster to attract clients and promote their messages effectively.
- Matthew reminisces about his time as part of the "golden crew" of Formula One commentators alongside Paula Malcomson, Alex Yoong, Sanjeev Bala, Chris Goodwin, and Steve Slater.
### 3. Expansion of Formula One Grid:
- The podcast delves into the recent news regarding the potential expansion of the Formula One grid with four new teams expressing interest: Andretti Autosport, Hitech Grand Prix, Rodin Motorsport, and Project Lucky Sun.
- The FIA has reportedly approved the Andretti and Hitech bids, but the Formula One Management (FOM) and the existing teams have expressed resistance to the expansion.
- Briana and Nicole analyze the political dynamics at play, with the FIA seeking to assert its authority and the teams prioritizing their financial interests.
- They discuss the potential consequences of adding new teams, including the dilution of prize money and the impact on the overall quality of racing.
### 4. Financial Regulations and Cost Cap Breaches:
- The podcast addresses rumors circulating in the Italian branch of motorsport.com alleging that three Formula One teams have breached the cost cap regulations.
- Briana and Nicole express their frustration with the current state of the cost cap regulations, arguing that they hinder competition and prevent other teams from catching up to Red Bull's dominance.
- They emphasize the need for stricter enforcement of the regulations and question the effectiveness of the current penalties for breaking the cost cap.
- The hosts discuss the potential sporting penalties that could be imposed on the teams that breached the cost cap and the implications for the championship standings.
### 5. New Qualifying Format Trial:
- The upcoming Belgian Grand Prix will witness the trial of a new qualifying format, where drivers will use hard tires in Q1, medium tires in Q2, and soft tires in Q3.
- This format aims to reduce the number of tires Pirelli needs to bring to each race, making it more environmentally friendly.
- Briana and Nicole express skepticism about the new format, arguing that it will not significantly improve the spectacle of qualifying and may even lead to issues with tire warm-up.
# Formula One: Hungarian Grand Prix Predictions and Analysis
## Qualifying Format Changes
- Pirelli is introducing a new qualifying format for the Hungarian Grand Prix, with drivers using hard, medium, and soft tires in Q1, Q2, and Q3, respectively.
- The goal is to improve sustainability by reducing the number of tires used during qualifying.
- Some experts believe this change could lead to more strategic racing, while others argue that it may make qualifying less exciting.
## Tire Strategy and Degradation
- Pirelli is bringing a softer range of tires to the Hungaroring this weekend, which could lead to more tire degradation and potentially a two-stop race.
- However, the track is not particularly demanding on tires, so a one-stop strategy may still be possible.
- The tire strategy will be crucial in determining the outcome of the race, as teams will need to find the right balance between speed and tire life.
## Sergio Perez's Performance and Future at Red Bull
- Sergio Perez has been underperforming compared to his teammate Max Verstappen this season, leading to speculation about his future at Red Bull.
- Perez needs to improve his qualifying performance and race pace if he wants to secure his seat for next season.
- The Hungarian Grand Prix is a crucial race for Perez, as he needs to demonstrate his ability to challenge Verstappen and help Red Bull secure the Constructors' Championship.
## Daniel Ricciardo's Return to Formula One
- Daniel Ricciardo is making his return to Formula One with McLaren after a disappointing spell at Renault and McLaren.
- Ricciardo will be partnered with Lando Norris, who has been in impressive form this season.
- Ricciardo's performance at the Hungaroring will be closely watched, as he looks to prove that he can still compete at the highest level.
## Predictions for the Hungarian Grand Prix
- Max Verstappen is the favorite to win the Hungarian Grand Prix, given his dominant form this season.
- George Russell is a potential challenger for the podium, as Mercedes is expected to be more competitive at the Hungaroring.
- Esteban Ocon and Charles Leclerc are also in contention for a top-five finish.
- Lance Stroll and Daniel Ricciardo are the most likely drivers from the bottom five teams to score points.
## Special Daniel Ricciardo Predictions
- Ricciardo to finish in the top 10: 3 points
- Ricciardo to score more points than his teammate Lando Norris: 2 points
* Christian Lundgaard's Victory in IndyCar:
* Lundgaard's historic win in IndyCar, becoming the first Dane to win an IndyCar race.
* The heartwarming moment of his friend's emotional reaction to his victory.
* The unique bet between Lundgaard and his friend to grow and not shave their mustaches until his first IndyCar win.
* The iconic moment of them shaving their mustaches on the podium after the race.
* Christian Horner's Interview on F1 Nation:
* Horner's discussion about Nick Devereux's firing and the stability of the Czechos seat.
* Dedicated Kids Feed for UK Broadcast:
* Sky Sports UK's initiative to provide a dedicated kids feed for the race, featuring young commentators, unique graphics, and Nico Rosberg and Danica Patrick as expert commentators.
* Mercedes, Aston Martin, Williams, and McLaren at Goodwood Festival of Speed:
* The participation of several F1 teams and drivers in the Goodwood Festival of Speed, including Oscar Piastri, Alex Albon, Logan Sargent, Mick Schumacher, and Sebastian Vettel.
* Toto Wolff's Teaching at Harvard Business School:
* Wolff's return to Harvard Business School as a visiting professor.
* F1's Plans for Lighter and Louder Engines in 2026:
* The ongoing discussions and efforts to make the engines of the 2026 regulations lighter and louder.
**Additional Highlights:**
* Nicole Katz's enthusiastic reaction to Christian Lundgaard's victory and the subsequent mustache shaving.
* The hosts' predictions for Daniel Ricciardo's performance in his first race back and whether he will qualify above or below Yuki Tsunoda.
* The hosts' excitement about the upcoming Hungarian Grand Prix and their anticipation for Daniel Ricciardo's return to the grid.
* The light-hearted banter and camaraderie between the hosts throughout the podcast.
[00:00.000 -> 00:02.000] No punishment? Cool, I'll do that.
[00:02.000 -> 00:06.500] I can't. The rules are... everything's made up and the points don't matter.
[00:06.500 -> 00:07.500] It's fine.
[00:07.500 -> 00:08.500] Yeah, it's sports.
[00:08.500 -> 00:13.500] Cooling down our lineup on the grid, it's lights out and away we go.
[00:13.500 -> 00:15.000] This week's Gridwalk.
[00:16.500 -> 00:22.500] This is the 26th episode of Gridwalk, which is a big deal because we've now done a half year's worth of Gridwalk episodes.
[00:22.500 -> 00:24.500] Plus three or four bonus episodes.
[00:24.500 -> 00:27.840] And I feel like we only started yesterday.
[00:27.840 -> 00:29.040] We blinked and we're here!
[00:29.920 -> 00:31.200] Almost silly season!
[00:31.200 -> 00:35.280] Well, I can't think of a better collection of topics for our 26th episode
[00:35.280 -> 00:39.760] because we have items from all different facets of Formula 1 that we find interesting.
[00:40.400 -> 00:43.120] Prize picks will match your first deposit up to $100.
[00:43.920 -> 01:09.560] Just visit prizepicks.com slash get100 and use code get100. Hi folks, welcome to the InsideLine F1 Podcast and this is the second part of Voices of F1
[01:09.560 -> 01:15.260] with Matthew Marsh, the voice of Formula 1 in Asia with Fox Sports and GoF1 who now is
[01:15.260 -> 01:20.220] also working in his own company called Acuity Drapageon which is a motorsport consultancy
[01:20.220 -> 01:25.040] that helps brands link up in the world of motorsport and promote their message
[01:25.040 -> 01:29.200] and promote their company a little bit better. Well what Matthew does is
[01:29.200 -> 01:33.720] something very interesting. He eventually helps out putting these deals forward
[01:33.720 -> 01:37.840] and helps said companies to advertise in the world of motorsports. So that could
[01:37.840 -> 01:43.400] mean say companies like Epson, like NTT, like HKT. He's helped these guys
[01:43.400 -> 01:46.200] associate with teams and maybe events in
[01:46.200 -> 01:49.780] the world of motorsport and in this episode he tells us exactly how he does
[01:49.780 -> 01:54.040] it and what are the core principles that he follows. Without any further ado, let's
[01:54.040 -> 02:00.720] listen to Matthew. But what's interesting is I've never quite heard the story of
[02:00.720 -> 02:09.360] any other broadcaster adding their credibility to their work while they are a broadcaster so that that's a bit of a first. Have you heard
[02:09.360 -> 02:12.960] of anyone else like that ever before Matthew because that is a unique story
[02:12.960 -> 02:17.640] in a way. No? Yeah again totally by chance I didn't mean it to happen that
[02:17.640 -> 02:22.680] way. Oh come on you can brag about it and say it was part of L plan. Oh yes exactly
[02:22.680 -> 02:26.320] L plan yeah. You can add the tactic. Carry on, carry on.
[02:27.520 -> 02:32.240] Exactly. Oh no, but that's crazy how it all panned out. And then after Porsche,
[02:33.040 -> 02:38.320] there was Le Mans, there was Daytona, but in terms of the TV coverage as well, there was that
[02:38.320 -> 02:46.720] golden crew that we all remember of you, of Paula, of Alex. I think Sanjeev Bala was right there at the circuits, Chris Goodwin
[02:46.720 -> 02:52.080] and Steve Slater as well. What was that crew like working with? Because from our perspective,
[02:52.080 -> 02:56.800] at least while watching, it seemed to be a world of fun, tuning in an hour before the race,
[02:56.800 -> 03:02.480] just watching on 20 minutes after. That seemed like the quintessential Formula 1 program and
[03:02.480 -> 03:05.040] established you guys as the voices of F1 in Asia for us.
[03:06.200 -> 03:08.200] Hmm. Well, thank you for that. Yeah, I
[03:10.240 -> 03:13.500] It's a long time ago now, isn't it? Doesn't quite feel like it though, does it?
[03:14.240 -> 03:19.160] Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it? It's a good point, but it is 20 years ago, I think. Oh really? Maybe.
[03:19.720 -> 03:26.960] No, I mean, okay, of course Paula and myself and Alex were on until just last year, but Steve Slater's
[03:26.960 -> 03:34.080] voice, it's a bit like James Allen's voice. You hear it and you think, who's that? Wow,
[03:34.080 -> 03:38.160] it's James Allen. And it's because there are periods of time when the different commentators
[03:38.160 -> 03:44.400] were... Then there's a project called Lucky Son, which is by a wealthy Hong Kong Chinese
[03:48.400 -> 03:54.520] Then there's a project called Lucky Sun, which is by a wealthy Hong Kong Chinese billionaire. And then there is Rodin Motorsport, which is connected to Australian billionaire David
[03:54.520 -> 03:59.200] Dicker, who made his fortune by distributing computer hardware and software.
[03:59.200 -> 04:02.200] Now all of these, the answer is they're going to be connected to a billionaire, just so
[04:02.200 -> 04:04.840] we're clear.
[04:04.840 -> 04:09.200] And we want them to be, weirdly, because you need enough money to invest and actually be
[04:09.200 -> 04:15.920] competitive so we are talking billions. So those are the four teams that applied. The rumor is
[04:15.920 -> 04:21.040] the I'm just going to go with high tech from here on out but that the high tech Grand Prix and the
[04:21.040 -> 04:26.640] Andretti Autosport bids were approved by the FIA, and that the FIA will be announcing that soon.
[04:26.640 -> 04:32.500] So what is holding up the announcement is that technically Formula One management, which
[04:32.500 -> 04:39.700] is the, well, management side of Formula One, that's what Liberty Media owns, has a veto
[04:39.700 -> 04:41.280] right.
[04:41.280 -> 04:46.000] And Liberty Media and the teams have all said, we don't want new teams.
[04:46.000 -> 04:49.000] So they've kind of dug their heels in.
[04:49.000 -> 04:57.000] And what AMUS discusses throughout the article, and what they're reporting on, is essentially we have a political war here.
[04:57.000 -> 05:05.400] Where Mohammed, who is the head of the FIA, is being quoted as he wants to
[05:06.660 -> 05:10.180] show his strength. I was gonna say that in a much more inappropriate way.
[05:10.180 -> 05:13.760] And he thinks that he can strong arm the FOM
[05:13.760 -> 05:17.200] and he wants to show the FOM who's boss, essentially.
[05:17.200 -> 05:20.400] By announcing new teams and forcing FOM and Liberty
[05:20.400 -> 05:22.840] and the teams to have to just accept it,
[05:22.840 -> 05:24.560] the FOM and the teams are saying,
[05:24.560 -> 05:27.220] no, you are not going to do that.
[05:27.220 -> 05:29.120] I love describing really serious matters
[05:29.120 -> 05:31.960] as if it's just two girls fighting in a teenage bathroom.
[05:33.260 -> 05:37.900] So that is the summary of what is going on here
[05:37.900 -> 05:41.860] is we have a political battle playing out behind the scenes
[05:41.860 -> 05:45.840] where Liberty and the teams don't want new teams, and the
[05:45.840 -> 05:51.400] FIA is trying to show their strength and power and force new teams onto the grid.
[05:51.400 -> 05:54.920] So, Nicole, how do you see this playing out?
[05:54.920 -> 05:59.680] And that's a lot I just threw at you and the listening audience.
[05:59.680 -> 06:01.920] How are you feeling?
[06:01.920 -> 06:05.000] Just a feeling, just a whole lot of things.
[06:05.000 -> 06:14.000] My initial response when reading this translated article was going to be like,
[06:14.000 -> 06:26.260] FLM and the teams have made it so abundantly clear that not only do they currently feel like they cannot have more teams be joining the grid, but they need more than just like
[06:26.920 -> 06:28.160] Okay, they have the cash
[06:28.160 -> 06:33.860] they have the whatever teams that are joining are coming in being like you said all of them are gonna be backed by a
[06:33.920 -> 06:40.580] Billionaire because it's like you cannot be part of that conversation without coming in with a money figure like that
[06:40.580 -> 06:42.860] But even if you're coming in with the money figure like that
[06:42.860 -> 06:48.320] Like how much is that person going to be continuously pouring money into this? Because as we have
[06:48.320 -> 06:54.000] recently seen, Alpine being roughly under a billion dollars and they're not necessarily
[06:54.000 -> 06:59.900] like right behind Red Bull. So if we want to just look at like that cost alone, it's
[06:59.900 -> 07:06.180] not going to be like this new team is going to be suddenly up in the front running next to Max Verstappen.
[07:06.180 -> 07:13.660] So it definitely does feel like it's a little bit more of a show all your cards, like I'm
[07:13.660 -> 07:20.600] all in ego move from the FIA at this point in time, because nothing else has come out
[07:20.600 -> 07:29.960] unless it's just not public knowledge, which it really must, you know, could be of what was pitched behind the scenes, what are these teams coming in with and everything
[07:29.960 -> 07:39.080] like that, that could maybe, you know, make the teams and FOM feel better about their
[07:39.080 -> 07:44.600] concerns about not only splitting the pot of money, or just, you know, being able to
[07:44.600 -> 07:45.200] know that these teams are coming in for the benefit of the or just, you know, being able to know that these teams
[07:45.200 -> 07:49.400] are coming in for the benefit of the sport and making it more lucrative and not just
[07:49.400 -> 07:53.280] because they're like going in for a cash grab or something silly like that.
[07:53.280 -> 07:54.280] Yeah, I don't know.
[07:54.280 -> 07:57.280] It doesn't feel good to me.
[07:57.280 -> 07:58.280] Yeah.
[07:58.280 -> 08:02.960] Gosh, my brain is in seven different places, but I'm realizing something I forgot to say
[08:02.960 -> 08:07.820] at the beginning is the reason why the FIA can approve them but FOM also has to
[08:07.820 -> 08:10.460] approve them is there's this thing called the Concord Agreement which is
[08:10.460 -> 08:15.620] how they decide to split the money so technically the F if I'm understanding
[08:15.620 -> 08:19.080] the complicated regulations and rules I'm reading correctly let me add the
[08:19.080 -> 08:26.920] asterisks I did I tried really hard to understand fully. But basically, what I think it means
[08:26.920 -> 08:30.600] is that the FIA can approve these teams
[08:30.600 -> 08:32.560] to be on the grid and race.
[08:32.560 -> 08:35.160] But unless the FOM and the teams let them
[08:35.160 -> 08:38.720] into the Concord Agreement, they are racing,
[08:38.720 -> 08:42.960] but don't get to split the pot of money.
[08:42.960 -> 08:48.760] So hypothetically speaking, let's say, you know, Andretti races and let's, if FOM
[08:48.760 -> 08:55.680] vetoes, is Andretti then able to race and let's say they, like, a magical world finished forth
[08:55.680 -> 09:02.200] in the constructors, like, does like money just skip over? Like, is it just like, boop, boop, boop?
[09:02.200 -> 09:05.200] So, I don't think they would ever let it get to that place.
[09:05.200 -> 09:05.480] Right.
[09:05.480 -> 09:07.120] I'm being honest.
[09:07.120 -> 09:08.480] I mean, that would be bizarre.
[09:08.480 -> 09:09.160] Wild.
[09:09.160 -> 09:09.560] Yeah.
[09:09.560 -> 09:12.040] And I guess it would be wild, but we would never see it
[09:12.040 -> 09:14.880] because this is all technically is behind the scenes anyway.
[09:16.840 -> 09:20.800] I think I think also I think Liberty technically has a veto on
[09:21.640 -> 09:27.760] they can't veto the FIA approving any teams, but they can veto who the teams
[09:27.760 -> 09:33.520] are. So there could be a way where Liberty Media says, oh, I'm totally fine. And I keep
[09:33.520 -> 09:37.600] saying Liberty Media, but it's really Formula One management. So Formula One management
[09:37.600 -> 09:42.560] could get around this also by saying, hey, we don't like the teams you picked. So we're
[09:42.560 -> 09:46.760] going to veto the teams. And then the FIA is like, but you vetoed all the teams.
[09:46.760 -> 09:48.340] And then it's like, oh, well,
[09:48.340 -> 09:51.140] but so much of this is like interpersonal dynamics
[09:51.140 -> 09:51.980] and relationships.
[09:51.980 -> 09:54.780] So I think a lot of this reporting from this article
[09:54.780 -> 09:59.040] and other things we're seeing is leaks of what's coming out.
[09:59.040 -> 10:01.440] I don't really personally care
[10:01.440 -> 10:03.720] if F1 teams make more money or not.
[10:03.720 -> 10:05.560] That is not of personal interest to me.
[10:05.560 -> 10:10.400] And I know a hang up on a lot of this is that they don't think a $200 million buy-in
[10:10.400 -> 10:15.980] to the Concord Agreement is enough money, and that they want that to be larger.
[10:15.980 -> 10:18.900] And so that part I really don't care about.
[10:18.900 -> 10:22.120] I mentally chuck that out. I'm like, who cares?
[10:22.120 -> 10:26.320] But the part I do personally as a fan care about is I don't
[10:26.320 -> 10:34.520] think more is more. Yeah. I don't. We have 20 drivers and 10 teams and we've had one
[10:34.520 -> 10:41.080] team win every race this season. We've had one driver win all but two races. Throwing
[10:41.080 -> 10:46.040] two new teams with zero infrastructure and having to invest billions of dollars to
[10:46.040 -> 10:51.600] just get to a level of Williams, that's not more entertaining.
[10:51.600 -> 10:52.880] That's not going to improve my Sundays.
[10:52.880 -> 10:56.640] That's not going to make F1 a more exciting product for me.
[10:56.640 -> 11:01.400] The only benefit is that that means there's more drivers on the grid, but that's never
[11:01.400 -> 11:08.100] been me personally as an F1 viewer. That is not something that I feel particularly passionate
[11:08.100 -> 11:11.400] about in any way, like I don't think four more drivers,
[11:11.400 -> 11:14.320] but I also really acknowledge the fan experience
[11:14.320 -> 11:15.520] and what people are talking about
[11:15.520 -> 11:16.920] when they say they want that.
[11:16.920 -> 11:19.800] I think, cool, that sounds great.
[11:19.800 -> 11:21.200] Like if you want more drivers,
[11:21.200 -> 11:23.400] there are definitely drivers I wish had seats,
[11:23.400 -> 11:25.840] but I don't think what's preventing them from having seats.
[11:25.880 -> 11:28.680] Like I would love that if Colton Herna right now was in that Alpha
[11:28.680 -> 11:29.920] Tari seat, like he was supposed to be.
[11:30.280 -> 11:32.880] But what is preventing him from that is not more teams.
[11:33.000 -> 11:34.680] He still doesn't have the super license points.
[11:34.680 -> 11:37.480] Even if Andretti gets a team, guess what's preventing that?
[11:37.480 -> 11:38.280] The FIA.
[11:40.120 -> 11:44.000] So to me, there's like a lot of like, oh, well, there's all these drivers.
[11:44.000 -> 11:44.640] We want seats.
[11:44.640 -> 11:45.640] And it's like, yeah, me too.
[11:45.640 -> 11:47.040] The issue is the FIA.
[11:47.040 -> 11:49.000] It's not the lack of teams.
[11:49.000 -> 11:51.680] So what a surprise.
[11:51.680 -> 11:55.320] It all goes back to the FIA.
[11:55.320 -> 11:56.600] And I want to be very clear.
[11:56.600 -> 11:58.440] I mean, the FIA leadership, I know
[11:58.440 -> 12:00.800] there's a lot of really good people working for the FIA,
[12:00.800 -> 12:03.680] just trying to do their jobs, and are not
[12:03.680 -> 12:06.080] in decision-making positions right now for the things we're talking about. We're not saying every single person at the FIA just trying to do their jobs, are not in decision-making positions right now
[12:06.080 -> 12:06.920] for the things we're talking about.
[12:06.920 -> 12:09.080] Not saying every single person at the FIA,
[12:09.080 -> 12:11.080] but you know who you are.
[12:14.080 -> 12:16.280] Yeah, so I just,
[12:17.920 -> 12:19.800] I think what's going to happen
[12:19.800 -> 12:23.120] is we are going to get these two new teams on the grid.
[12:23.120 -> 12:29.960] But I am very interested to see what the FIA ends up having to give up in order to make
[12:29.960 -> 12:33.540] this quote-unquote win they're looking for happen.
[12:33.540 -> 12:38.360] To your point earlier about how teams are just not doing a good job of getting fans
[12:38.360 -> 12:46.720] on their side, it so feels like this topic is happening in a way that's like backburner to teams. Like it feels
[12:46.720 -> 12:51.420] like there's so much happening internally in the season that it feels like every so
[12:51.420 -> 12:56.500] often we'll get like a side comment from a team principal or someone on some type of
[12:56.500 -> 13:01.400] staff and it's not really like a formulated like here's really where we all stand on this.
[13:01.400 -> 13:06.320] Like here's a piece of athlete about this. So I think
[13:06.320 -> 13:12.960] that's so spot on. If the teams could continue to get together in a way and vocalize like a stance
[13:12.960 -> 13:18.880] about why they feel like this could not be beneficial for the sport overall, and not just
[13:18.880 -> 13:23.120] in the sense of because I also don't care if, you know, teams have more, you know, nether,
[13:24.080 -> 13:26.320] whatever they're all breaking up and getting.
[13:26.320 -> 13:27.360] Lots of money in F1.
[13:27.360 -> 13:30.520] That's not brand new news to absolutely anyone at all.
[13:30.520 -> 13:35.520] But just for the quality of the sport and not talking,
[13:36.040 -> 13:38.560] again, we're not talking about in terms of financials here.
[13:38.560 -> 13:39.400] So it's literally quality.
[13:39.400 -> 13:40.720] Like for us as viewers.
[13:40.720 -> 13:44.960] For us, and how we, and as you acknowledge,
[13:44.960 -> 13:46.000] there's some people that want to see more
[13:46.000 -> 13:51.360] drivers, but acknowledging how we as F1 fans like to watch F1 races and what we would hope
[13:51.360 -> 13:57.080] to see it to be now. Like I would love for it not to be like a ha-ha joke for Haas to
[13:57.080 -> 14:06.200] be in a P3 starting position or any sort of type of thing and be competing and then eventually fall back and it just be like a DNF situation.
[14:06.200 -> 14:07.200] Like for to have-
[14:07.200 -> 14:08.200] To constantly-
[14:08.200 -> 14:09.200] Right.
[14:09.200 -> 14:13.400] I just, you know, like, haha, we love seeing Nico do things in quali and then it just
[14:13.400 -> 14:19.400] like go to fire on Sundays, but for maybe it to go a little bit farther than that, like
[14:19.400 -> 14:25.280] maybe to the end of the race where it's not max, it's almost like a lap and a half ahead of everybody,
[14:31.280 -> 14:35.280] would be really lovely and enhance the quality of F1 as a sport. So it would be great to see all the teams get together on a unified front to vocalize this or else I feel like it is going to
[14:35.280 -> 14:40.320] end up being some backroom shady deal. We're going to end up with two more teams on the grid and FIA
[14:40.320 -> 14:44.720] is going to give up something and it's kind of going to look just really sketch. And I don't
[14:44.720 -> 14:47.840] know, I just don't feel like it's necessarily going to be better. I feel like we is going to give up something and it's kind of going to look just really sketch. And I don't know, I just don't feel like it's necessarily going to be better.
[14:47.840 -> 14:50.240] I feel like we're going to end up with more, I don't want to say more
[14:50.800 -> 14:59.760] Haases because that feels negative, but we're going to end up with a couple tractors on the grid.
[15:00.560 -> 15:06.920] Well, we talk a lot about how we feel like we're living in the peak of F1 right now,
[15:06.920 -> 15:10.980] and F1 doesn't feel like it's spiking in growth anymore.
[15:10.980 -> 15:16.740] It feels like they're working, and working well, to maintain what was built.
[15:16.740 -> 15:19.020] But I'm intrigued.
[15:19.020 -> 15:24.860] The last time F1 added new teams, they're, I guess, haus.
[15:24.860 -> 15:27.500] But then before that, they added two new teams
[15:27.500 -> 15:31.460] and they were not on the grid anymore. Like you wouldn't know who they are. And they,
[15:31.460 -> 15:37.980] it doesn't work. Like adding new teams rarely works. And it's sad that like Haas is the
[15:37.980 -> 15:44.100] modern success story of, and the only reason Haas didn't collapse is because of the financial
[15:44.100 -> 15:48.520] regulations that were put in place, which is our next Google Translate corner we will talk about in a moment.
[15:48.520 -> 15:51.320] There's your tease.
[15:51.320 -> 15:53.440] So it's a little...
[15:53.440 -> 15:56.960] I'm like what?
[15:56.960 -> 16:02.940] So we're gonna watch other teams drive around in the back, not be able to financially invest
[16:02.940 -> 16:07.920] in this, and then maybe the sport, I don't predict
[16:07.920 -> 16:12.880] the sport to always be this financially healthy. So like what's it gonna mean then? I don't
[16:12.880 -> 16:20.440] know. Just stand by more, more isn't more. Always. And I agree, this is definitely, 100%
[16:20.440 -> 16:29.920] gonna come down to some backroom deal. We're probably not... it's gonna be months before we figure out what they gave up. But it seems clear to me that
[16:29.920 -> 16:39.640] the FIA really wants this and views this as a win for them. But I'm intrigued what
[16:39.640 -> 16:43.440] they will have to give up to get said win. And you know what I would like for
[16:43.440 -> 16:49.660] them to give up? Having to properly steward their races. Thank you. I mean I hope they don't
[16:49.660 -> 16:54.000] give up properly stewarding. No no no I mean like they'll actually have to start
[16:54.000 -> 16:58.680] caring because Liberty Media is like hey you're making us look bad all the time.
[16:58.680 -> 17:04.120] Like there's this tension that like there's the tension about this but I
[17:04.120 -> 17:05.080] think this story is a tension subsidiary of the tension about this, but I think this story
[17:05.080 -> 17:10.980] is a tension subsidiary of the fact that FOM is like, you are prevent, your inability to
[17:10.980 -> 17:15.820] correctly regulate and steward this sport is preventing us from making this sport not
[17:15.820 -> 17:16.820] a laughingstock.
[17:16.820 -> 17:22.420] Like, there's a reason that the next story we're going to get into that I won't transition
[17:22.420 -> 17:30.560] to now, I will let you say words first
[17:32.560 -> 17:32.600] Louis keep his
[17:36.520 -> 17:42.280] Piercing and jewelry in forever and never bring it up ever ever again If you let us do this like it's gonna be something like silly and dumb. I don't know. I'm over it
[17:42.280 -> 17:43.280] I don't think
[17:43.280 -> 17:45.920] Liberty is gonna let them get away with... There's going to be
[17:45.920 -> 17:50.440] some big political chip that the FIA is going to have to play. I don't know if we're ever
[17:50.440 -> 17:51.440] going to know what it is.
[17:51.440 -> 17:56.840] And it'd be worth it. I mean, if we see some kind of unbelievable, huge change. So look,
[17:56.840 -> 18:02.840] maybe if the FIA is willing to be safer and actually steward in an appropriate way...
[18:02.840 -> 18:03.840] Yeah, have more teams.
[18:03.840 -> 18:05.280] I'd love to let them. Yeah, have more teams.
[18:05.320 -> 18:06.200] Sure, go for it.
[18:06.440 -> 18:06.960] Uh huh.
[18:07.200 -> 18:10.000] If that's what it takes. Wow. Congratulations. You did.
[18:10.360 -> 18:13.320] Yeah. You know, I know they approved the Andretti bid, by
[18:13.320 -> 18:16.320] the way. Because Michael Andretti came out and
[18:16.320 -> 18:22.520] apologized for the fact that he called F1 teams greedy. So yeah,
[18:22.560 -> 18:26.640] like actual reporting has confirmed it. But as soon as I saw that quote, I went,
[18:26.640 -> 18:28.160] oh, the Andretti bridge was approved.
[18:28.160 -> 18:32.520] I mean, you knew that if there was any, it had, like, Andretti was gonna, like, there
[18:32.520 -> 18:37.680] was gonna be so much money thrown at that that it had to be at least one, like, approved
[18:37.680 -> 18:38.680] initially.
[18:38.680 -> 18:41.680] There was no way Andretti wasn't gonna be part of that initial conversation.
[18:41.680 -> 18:46.600] We've made that abundantly clear in the early episodes.
[18:48.440 -> 18:50.160] I think we're gonna have to bring back F1 Ring when this officially gets approved.
[18:50.160 -> 18:54.760] Oh, all of the new members of the grid and old, oh boy.
[18:56.320 -> 18:57.160] Close enough.
[18:58.200 -> 19:01.160] All right, Google Translate corner number two.
[19:01.160 -> 19:04.000] And that's because motorsport.com,
[19:04.000 -> 19:07.560] but the Italian branch of it, is reporting
[19:07.560 -> 19:13.680] that three teams have broken the cost cap, and we are going to get an announcement at
[19:13.680 -> 19:14.940] the end of this month.
[19:14.940 -> 19:18.400] So essentially they're going to give us the announcement right before they go into summer
[19:18.400 -> 19:21.120] shutdown.
[19:21.120 -> 19:33.000] The reason I fully believe that there are definitely teams that broke the cost cap is because the president of FOM, Stefano Domenicoli, is going around publicly campaigning that the regulations,
[19:33.000 -> 19:39.760] the punishment for breaking a cost cap regulation needs to be sporting, and that they don't think that the punishment for Red Bull was enough.
[19:39.760 -> 19:45.700] So we have three teams that broke the cost cap, allegedly, according to these decently
[19:45.700 -> 19:46.700] sourced rumors.
[19:46.700 -> 19:51.000] Like this seems like a well-reported rumor.
[19:51.000 -> 19:53.860] Like this is, it might be more, might be less, we don't know how much they broke the cost
[19:53.860 -> 19:58.500] cap, we don't know which teams, which we don't necessarily need to speculate on, because
[19:58.500 -> 20:01.820] we're going to apparently find out in two weeks.
[20:01.820 -> 20:09.400] But it brings up a couple of things. One, my major problem with the
[20:09.400 -> 20:16.720] cost cap is that in a sport where money gives you pace, the fact that no teams can
[20:16.720 -> 20:20.400] spend more money than other teams, no one's gonna catch up to Red Bull and it's
[20:20.400 -> 20:25.040] really frustrating to me. Like, this is what we're stuck with. Great. This is really fun.
[20:26.800 -> 20:29.680] But two, let's just say in this theoretical world,
[20:30.400 -> 20:35.440] like, what, let's even say Red Bull broke it again. Like, let's, let's just say that happens.
[20:35.440 -> 20:39.920] You're telling me that two teams broke the cost cap and neither of them are any closer to Red Bull
[20:39.920 -> 20:44.080] than what the other nine teams are? If you're gonna break the cost cap, please break it better.
[20:41.960 -> 20:43.120] than what the other nine teams are. If you're gonna break the cost cap,
[20:43.120 -> 20:44.360] please break it better.
[20:47.440 -> 20:48.760] The amount of times that we've chanted
[20:48.760 -> 20:50.200] for certain teams last year,
[20:50.200 -> 20:52.200] be like, just break the cost cap,
[20:52.200 -> 20:53.800] just do it, or even this year,
[20:53.800 -> 20:55.960] it's like, now you've seen what happens.
[20:55.960 -> 20:59.420] Just overspend, and now thinking that maybe,
[20:59.420 -> 21:01.320] like if it was Red Bull plus two other teams,
[21:01.320 -> 21:04.200] that like, hi, hello, you overspent,
[21:04.200 -> 21:05.800] and it's still not happening. Like, hello, you overspent and it's still not happening.
[21:05.800 -> 21:08.800] Like, I hope you overspent by a nickel.
[21:08.800 -> 21:11.120] Right, and I don't know that Red Bull is one of the teams.
[21:11.120 -> 21:11.960] I'm not saying that they are.
[21:11.960 -> 21:14.840] This is hypothetically under the assumption if.
[21:14.840 -> 21:18.320] Right, hypothetically, there are two to three teams
[21:18.320 -> 21:20.700] on the grid that broke the cost cap,
[21:20.700 -> 21:23.520] but yet can't compete with Red Bull.
[21:24.560 -> 21:25.980] What?
[21:25.980 -> 21:30.500] We haven't had a different team win a race this season
[21:30.500 -> 21:33.240] but you're telling me three broke the cost cap.
[21:34.240 -> 21:37.040] I can't believe, like, let's say this comes out.
[21:37.040 -> 21:40.240] The only, really, the only thing you're gonna hear
[21:40.240 -> 21:42.600] if this drops and we're doing a reaction,
[21:42.600 -> 21:44.440] we come in with a bonus episode like,
[21:44.440 -> 21:45.080] oh my god
[21:51.440 -> 21:52.440] Cost-cut regulations so and so broke the rules if Mercedes is on that list and that w14 is this bad
[21:53.800 -> 21:57.060] with them Breaking the cost cap. I'm not gonna be mad at them for breaking the cost cap
[21:57.060 -> 21:59.680] I'm gonna be mad at them for breaking the cost cap poorly. I
[22:01.200 -> 22:03.280] Have to agree with you there. Yeah
[22:08.640 -> 22:15.860] I have to agree with you there. Yeah. Um, no, I really am just like, I, I wanted to the, at that point be any other team because I just need, I need, I need to be like, ah,
[22:15.860 -> 22:21.800] that makes so much sense. That makes sense. Thank you. McLaren. Oh, you guys, you did
[22:21.800 -> 22:27.280] it right. You did it. And you also both have money, so it's okay like if
[22:27.680 -> 22:29.200] It's not okay
[22:29.200 -> 22:32.800] I'm just saying in general for the sake of yeah are in the sport
[22:33.260 -> 22:38.680] Red Bull has already done it so much so other people need to do it in order to we need to start over we need to
[22:38.680 -> 22:46.000] Start the whole thing over we everyone just start fresh start with a box and everyone needs to start racing with this budget of that.
[22:46.000 -> 22:48.880] And then I just can't, cause Red Bull's too far ahead.
[22:49.780 -> 22:52.020] It all brings, it always comes back to,
[22:52.960 -> 22:55.360] regulations only work if people follow them.
[22:55.360 -> 22:57.080] So you're telling, like, that was my whole thing
[22:57.080 -> 22:59.640] with the Red Bull, like breaking
[22:59.640 -> 23:00.840] of the financial regulations.
[23:00.840 -> 23:02.940] It's like, great, so Red Bull broke them.
[23:02.940 -> 23:04.260] Then we're not going to strip them
[23:04.260 -> 23:08.560] of any of their championships. Oh, so we're now communicating to everyone that there's
[23:08.560 -> 23:14.960] no punishment for this. So it makes complete sense to me that we had three teams go, no
[23:14.960 -> 23:21.360] punishment? Cool, I'll do that. And then they broke... And then so what, this is all a farce.
[23:21.360 -> 23:28.840] Like, people are just going to keep breaking. Like, and so if we get a sporting penalty this year, oh my gosh, imagine
[23:28.840 -> 23:31.800] the nightmare. So we can't get Lewis Hamilton back his championship from
[23:31.800 -> 23:36.320] 2021. But now we're going to punish three teams for what they did last year.
[23:37.280 -> 23:41.120] I just like there's no winning. Like, and I'm not even trying to be a
[23:41.120 -> 23:44.720] conspiracy theorist that the reason Red Bull like didn't get a sporting
[23:44.720 -> 23:51.440] penalties because of that or whatever, whatever like I just could see this all happening like in slow motion
[23:51.440 -> 23:56.880] where like if we want them to follow these regulations you need to enforce them so of
[23:56.880 -> 24:02.080] course when they didn't enforce the right like Red Bull won the most publicized championship
[24:02.080 -> 24:06.160] in modern F1 history that it came down to the wire,
[24:06.160 -> 24:11.040] that we all know they cheated on, then they cheated again, that we found out they cheated
[24:11.040 -> 24:16.080] more than we thought they cheated, and you didn't take it away. And so of course everyone's like,
[24:16.080 -> 24:21.280] like, I'm like, yeah, just throw the money at the wall. Like, it's just, why have the
[24:21.280 -> 24:27.680] financial regulations? Yeah. And part of my brain has this fear that, like, let's say back to,
[24:27.680 -> 24:32.960] hypothetically speaking, those three teams are not Red Bull, like, at all,
[24:32.960 -> 24:39.600] and those three teams were taking the gamble of them going into last year being like,
[24:39.600 -> 24:43.840] Red Bull overspent, or whoever, whatever, XYZ overspent.
[24:43.840 -> 24:45.680] So we are also going to overspend
[24:45.680 -> 24:52.280] going with their gut or going with the belief that the penalties would be as not harsh as
[24:52.280 -> 24:57.600] they were not. And they're like, cool, so we'll just do that this year. But it all just,
[24:57.600 -> 25:02.520] I guess you could say fell through because you didn't catch up to Red Bull in that sense
[25:02.520 -> 25:06.840] at all. And now it's just kind of like a waiting game and then imagine if it was
[25:06.840 -> 25:13.100] Three teams that are not Red Bull or anybody else and then all of them get sporting penalties to your point. Yeah, I would be
[25:14.120 -> 25:17.160] Very upset so it'll be over six months later
[25:17.760 -> 25:26.400] Right. I will never be able to get over the unbelievable upside down backwardness of this like financial review
[25:26.400 -> 25:31.840] of the I can't I cannot have the poppin circumstance of celebrating a constructors
[25:31.840 -> 25:37.600] championship and a driver's championship while the budget checking balances occurs in the middle of
[25:37.600 -> 25:43.200] the following season when he's already probably locked up his next championship I can't it makes
[25:45.340 -> 25:46.500] Probably locked up his next championship. I can't it makes no sense at all
[25:48.500 -> 25:49.960] That I that's all
[25:56.260 -> 25:57.040] In and I guess you could say a summary of this mess do we feel like
[25:59.040 -> 25:59.420] any of these
[26:01.420 -> 26:02.080] financial regulations are
[26:03.800 -> 26:05.000] working to Get closer to Red Bull at all.
[26:06.840 -> 26:09.080] No, I think it's making it harder to get closer to Red Bull.
[26:09.080 -> 26:10.940] I agree with you a hundred percent.
[26:14.760 -> 26:15.600] This is fun.
[26:17.680 -> 26:22.680] We are in race three of this final four
[26:23.160 -> 26:24.960] crunch into silly season.
[26:24.960 -> 26:25.000] God, it's, I feel like this has been like an unbelievable stretch, Race three of this final four Crunch into Silly season.
[26:25.000 -> 26:28.240] God, I feel like this has been like an unbelievable stretch,
[26:28.240 -> 26:30.100] even though we just had a race weekend,
[26:30.100 -> 26:32.520] or an entire weekend off from racing.
[26:32.520 -> 26:33.360] But-
[26:33.360 -> 26:36.840] It's hungry, spa, back to back, and then summer break.
[26:38.200 -> 26:39.720] And I feel like we just started.
[26:39.720 -> 26:43.280] And honestly, Silverstone was so much to process
[26:43.280 -> 26:47.400] that I just think a weekend off in between was appropriate.
[26:47.400 -> 26:57.300] It was too much the process of it being our favorite circuit to watch, of trying to understand what happened with McLaren,
[26:57.300 -> 27:05.800] and kind of just moving forward. And also, I'm nervous about Red Bull upgrades because
[27:06.880 -> 27:12.080] what, what do you mean the you that thing can be upgraded? That
[27:12.080 -> 27:16.200] doesn't seem fair. But we'll get into that later in the pod.
[27:17.720 -> 27:21.400] Lots of interesting things going on this weekend, including a
[27:21.400 -> 27:26.840] brand new qualifying format. So we're I even know, where do we want to start?
[27:26.840 -> 27:29.160] You want to dive in with quali, since that's
[27:29.160 -> 27:31.760] one of our pieces of the entire weekend,
[27:31.760 -> 27:38.960] and it involves our favorite thing of tire compounds.
[27:38.960 -> 27:40.560] Yeah.
[27:40.560 -> 27:46.160] So they're debuting a new qualifying format test this weekend
[27:46.160 -> 27:47.560] that was supposed to debut in Imola.
[27:47.560 -> 27:49.960] We actually had a whole segment recorded about this already.
[27:49.960 -> 27:54.160] That was completely scrapped because the race did not happen.
[27:55.120 -> 28:00.040] But, uh, right now qualifying, they just use soft tires.
[28:00.240 -> 28:04.200] What they're testing out is a qualifying format where in Q1, they use hards.
[28:04.400 -> 28:07.400] Q2, they use mediums and Q1s they use softs.
[28:08.200 -> 28:09.620] Now,
[28:09.620 -> 28:12.340] you'll hear a bunch of reasons that are like, ah,
[28:12.340 -> 28:16.160] it's gonna be more exciting and more competitive and I'll touch on that in a minute.
[28:16.400 -> 28:19.500] But the true reason of this is it means that
[28:20.120 -> 28:24.560] Pirelli can bring less tires. So theoretically it's gonna be better for the environment.
[28:22.000 -> 28:25.000] Pirelli can bring less tires. So theoretically, it's going to be better for the environment.
[28:25.000 -> 28:29.000] So by outlining what tires can be used in each qualifying session,
[28:29.000 -> 28:34.000] they're able to bring two less sets of tires per driver.
[28:34.000 -> 28:38.000] And so if you take there's 20 drivers, there's 24 races,
[28:38.000 -> 28:41.000] like you're saving a lot of tires, essentially,
[28:41.000 -> 28:46.540] over the course of a season, if they implemented this format. Things
[28:46.540 -> 28:54.360] that are not true. This is not going to improve the show in any way. The pace of
[28:54.360 -> 28:58.240] a car is the pace of a car. The only difference now is guess what in Q1 we're
[28:58.240 -> 29:02.560] gonna have to watch the Mercedes cars go around for six laps to warm up a pair of
[29:02.560 -> 29:06.080] hard tires before putting in their qualifying lap
[29:06.080 -> 29:12.160] because tire warm-up for teams is going to be rough if you have problems with tire warm-up.
[29:13.440 -> 29:18.720] Also some of the joy of qualifying is seeing like the crazy times get put on the board
[29:18.720 -> 29:25.840] and for Q1 and Q2 we're not going to see that because they're going to be on hards and mediums instead of on softs.
[29:27.680 -> 29:33.760] So I don't believe this is going to improve the show, but if this is Pirelli's effort at
[29:35.440 -> 29:46.960] overall improving sustainability, cool. Okay. Like I'm fine with with it i think actually a more interesting solution in my personal opinion
[29:46.960 -> 29:53.760] would be make it so you don't get um like normally there's enough tires where over the course of
[29:53.760 -> 30:08.560] qualifying you can run five softs which means that uh the faster teams will run used at one point because you normally do two runs a qualifying session
[30:08.560 -> 30:12.880] and use up five sets of tires. I think it would be more interesting to say you only
[30:12.880 -> 30:19.320] get one set of softs in Q1, one set of softs in Q2, and one set of softs in Q3. So you
[30:19.320 -> 30:31.360] don't get two sets of new tires. I think there would be like an interesting strategic element there of oh well do you only go out once then and save your new your you
[30:31.360 -> 30:36.680] your new pair till the end or do you still do two runs and one of them's used
[30:36.680 -> 30:42.480] like that to me it achieves the same goal that we're talking about here I
[30:42.480 -> 30:45.040] don't know why I need to watch qualifying on hearts.
[30:45.040 -> 30:46.320] It just doesn't sound exciting.
[30:46.320 -> 30:49.800] But that is, in summary, what we're getting this weekend.
[30:49.800 -> 30:51.520] We're getting this new qualifying format
[30:51.520 -> 30:54.200] that's supposed, if it works and they implement it,
[30:54.200 -> 30:57.480] it's going to help Pirelli be able to bring less tires.
[30:57.480 -> 31:02.440] Yeah, when I originally heard this format
[31:02.440 -> 31:08.240] and how it was announced, then kind of, you know, the solution of it all
[31:08.240 -> 31:13.760] has been, ah, yes, sustainability and two tires are saved per driver.
[31:13.760 -> 31:19.600] I'm like, okay, so someone had a spreadsheet and someone just ran, how many ways can we
[31:19.600 -> 31:25.280] set this up so that we can, you know, right, which is really, really cool.
[31:25.280 -> 31:27.360] So there is definitely a spreadsheet.
[31:27.360 -> 31:32.280] There's a tab on some spreadsheet somewhere that is that exact way that you just outlined.
[31:32.280 -> 31:36.200] But for some reason, and I don't know if it's just because it'll look nicer on a Pirelli
[31:36.200 -> 31:40.880] graphic because then you have hard, medium, soft, and it works that way and it just looks
[31:40.880 -> 31:42.360] really nice.
[31:42.360 -> 31:47.340] That's literally what it feels like someone picked for this qualifying format and
[31:49.240 -> 31:51.240] Then go
[31:51.480 -> 31:56.000] We just want tractors we it just sounds just it looks
[31:56.640 -> 31:59.800] just too easy as how it seems because I
[32:00.400 -> 32:03.880] Your way sounds like it makes so much more sense in terms of racing. I
[32:05.280 -> 32:09.760] your way sounds like it makes so much more sense in terms of racing. I don't know what this like it feels like there's like reins being put on the
[32:09.760 -> 32:13.680] racing which like who wants that especially when like qualifying the
[32:13.680 -> 32:17.920] entire like point is go fast I mean like everyone wants to go fast like
[32:17.920 -> 32:27.300] qualifying is literally like now go so fast. It's also so I understand that the more messed up a qualifying can
[32:27.300 -> 32:30.860] get the more messed up a grid is the more exciting the race is because cars
[32:30.860 -> 32:36.660] are out of place so I fundamentally understand that but I hate that F1
[32:36.660 -> 32:41.500] doesn't realize that their best product is qualifying and can we stop messing
[32:41.500 -> 32:44.900] with it like we had the sprint qualifying and it was so lame everyone
[32:44.900 -> 32:45.300] was like fine we won't get rid? Like we had the sprint qualifying and it was so lame. Everyone was like fine
[32:45.300 -> 32:46.500] We won't get rid of qualifying
[32:46.500 -> 32:51.860] We promise we'll just like make the sprint this separate other thing and then like then they're trying to do this and everyone's like well
[32:51.860 -> 32:54.580] Why are you messing with qualifying? The qualifying is your good thing
[32:54.980 -> 33:00.480] Like qualifying is the fun thing and like the race is like the sometimes fun sometimes not thing
[33:00.580 -> 33:03.620] But I get that they're messing with qualifying in order to improve the race
[33:03.620 -> 33:10.320] And I could to your point about a spreadsheet, I can see the presentation of if we go hard,
[33:10.320 -> 33:16.640] medium, soft, it might mix up the grid. Because some cars like certain compounds better than
[33:16.640 -> 33:24.080] others, which is true. But I don't think that just because, like, the Mercedes car might
[33:24.080 -> 33:26.640] not like the hard as much, that that means all of a
[33:26.640 -> 33:29.080] sudden they're going to be out in Q1.
[33:29.080 -> 33:33.160] I don't think this is going to dramatically shake up the grid.
[33:33.160 -> 33:36.760] Oh, I also want to throw in the caveat, because apparently it is going to rain, that if it
[33:36.760 -> 33:40.440] rains, all of this gets thrown out the window.
[33:40.440 -> 33:45.000] Even if it rains, just for the beginning of Q1, you can use softs in every other quali.
[33:45.000 -> 33:49.000] Like this only happens if we have a dry qualifying session.
[33:49.000 -> 33:52.000] I can't.
[33:52.000 -> 33:55.000] The rules are... everything's made up and the points don't matter.
[33:55.000 -> 33:57.000] It's fine.
[33:57.000 -> 33:58.000] Yeah, it's sports.
[33:58.000 -> 34:02.000] That is exactly all that it is.
[34:02.000 -> 34:07.120] But I think it's just really difficult to be trying to implement like these kind of
[34:08.920 -> 34:10.320] Variable
[34:10.320 -> 34:15.460] Neutralizers when red bull is so unbelievably ahead after certain
[34:16.240 -> 34:23.880] Cost-Crap cause cost crap. Yeah. Yeah, that's exactly it but cost cap leave it in future Brianna when I'm editing this
[34:27.680 -> 34:34.320] I did but was I wrong not at all all right probably tire graphics some of my favorite moments of the week
[34:34.320 -> 34:45.000] whoo all right so a couple things of note they Pirelli brought a tier softer compounds this year.
[34:46.420 -> 34:48.200] So last year at the Hungarum ring,
[34:48.200 -> 34:50.600] we got the C2, three and four.
[34:50.600 -> 34:52.700] This year we have the three, four and five.
[34:52.700 -> 34:54.960] So we got a softer step down,
[34:54.960 -> 34:56.620] which I am always excited about
[34:56.620 -> 34:58.680] because the more the tires degrade,
[34:58.680 -> 35:01.520] the better it is for us as viewers.
[35:02.860 -> 35:04.180] Nicole has a tire question.
[35:04.180 -> 35:10.520] But if we're currently struggling with the degradation of the tires, is this kind of
[35:10.520 -> 35:15.320] feeling like we're, I mean, not that you know exactly the makeup of these exact tires, but
[35:15.320 -> 35:19.100] does this, if we're even a step down, if they're not degrading fast enough, are we just going
[35:19.100 -> 35:25.920] to be kind of like in the same spot as a year ago, maybe?
[35:25.920 -> 35:29.600] That is a very good question.
[35:29.600 -> 35:31.760] I actually think this weekend for it,
[35:31.760 -> 35:33.880] this is the softest range of tires.
[35:33.880 -> 35:35.120] That's the best way to put it.
[35:35.120 -> 35:37.480] They could not bring softer tires than this.
[35:37.480 -> 35:40.800] So for that reason, they went a softer step than last year,
[35:40.800 -> 35:42.440] and they couldn't go any softer.
[35:42.440 -> 35:43.860] So I think this weekend is actually
[35:43.860 -> 35:45.060] going to be the test
[35:45.060 -> 35:47.140] to answer the question you are asking.
[35:47.140 -> 35:47.980] Fantastic.
[35:47.980 -> 35:51.220] We've like, we talked a lot after last week
[35:51.220 -> 35:53.180] after Silverstone of like, okay,
[35:53.180 -> 35:55.060] is it this new construction of tire?
[35:55.060 -> 35:57.700] That's the issue that they brought last week
[35:57.700 -> 35:59.300] or is Pirelli too conservative?
[35:59.300 -> 36:01.540] This is not a conservative choice.
[36:01.540 -> 36:03.220] This is a bolder choice than I think
[36:03.220 -> 36:04.900] they've actually made all season.
[36:04.480 -> 36:06.800] not a conservative choice. This is a bolder choice than I think they've actually made all season.
[36:14.000 -> 36:26.080] So if if we have a clear one stop and tires are not falling off at all, then we have a tire issue to your point. Because this track, as you notice from the many threes and twos here is kind of a middle of the road tire stress
[36:27.360 -> 36:34.480] track where there's a lot of braking into in medium and slower quarters and there's huge
[36:34.480 -> 36:45.320] downforce like we're going to see uh monaco type wings at a track like this so there is a lot of pressure being put on the tires.
[36:48.920 -> 36:51.200] So I, gosh, if we do not get, if we get a situation where people are running softs
[36:51.200 -> 36:53.700] in the race, like there's a bigger issue going on.
[36:54.800 -> 36:57.460] Yeah, big, big red flag immediately right there.
[36:57.460 -> 37:01.440] The Pirelli is not doing something right.
[37:01.440 -> 37:08.920] Yeah, and I always, hi, tire lover, I'm always very defensive of Pirelli because I think
[37:08.920 -> 37:14.920] that they're in a lose-lose situation where they were brought in to be a tire supplier
[37:14.920 -> 37:21.040] to get tires to degrade. And then they did that and then the narrative set by people
[37:21.040 -> 37:25.280] was that oh my god look at, I think they called them for years, chocolate tires.
[37:25.840 -> 37:32.480] And then Pirelli's like, I'm in this in order to sell my tires. Like you can't. And so Pirelli
[37:32.480 -> 37:39.200] meeting what we want, better racing. So tires that degrade more, we can't be upset when they do that
[37:39.200 -> 37:44.240] and ruin their business. So now we're at this point in the Pirelli contract where Pirelli is
[37:46.060 -> 37:52.760] business. So now we're at this point in the Pirelli contract where Pirelli is constantly too conservative and it's because they can't ruin their business, which I completely respect.
[37:52.760 -> 37:59.720] So if the tires are really hard this weekend, everyone please make a pact that we thank
[37:59.720 -> 38:10.620] Pirelli for that. Because that is good for us. We want teams to be struggling with their tires! Because a two-stop is always better for racing, or something that's a
[38:10.620 -> 38:14.640] borderline one-stop two-stop. Which is an interesting thing about this track, is
[38:14.640 -> 38:20.560] that it's surprisingly for a dedicated track, this is not a street circuit, it is
[38:20.560 -> 38:26.420] nearly impossible to overtake in this track. So teams want this to be a one-stop.
[38:26.420 -> 38:30.880] So if we have a combination of super soft compounds,
[38:30.880 -> 38:33.040] because this is the softest in the range,
[38:33.040 -> 38:36.120] that is making it really hard for teams to do a one-stop,
[38:36.120 -> 38:38.320] but teams try to do a one-stop,
[38:38.320 -> 38:41.120] and then some teams try to do a two-stop,
[38:41.120 -> 38:42.320] and then at the end of the race,
[38:42.320 -> 38:44.080] we have the strategy convergence
[38:44.080 -> 38:48.800] where the times for the one-stoppers are really falling back, but the times for the two-stop and then at the end of the race we have the strategy convergence where the times for the one-stoppers are really falling back but the times for
[38:48.800 -> 38:52.000] the two-stoppers like we might have someone chasing someone down for second
[38:52.000 -> 38:56.200] place because of course we're not talking about first place here and so
[38:56.200 -> 39:00.460] like we could have like Mercedes and Lewis Hamilton going along on a one-stop
[39:00.460 -> 39:04.800] and his times are getting slower and then we have a Charles Leclerc on a
[39:04.800 -> 39:05.160] two-stop and his times are going really. And then we have a Charlotte Claire on a two
[39:05.160 -> 39:08.920] stop and his times are going really fast and he's trying to catch Lewis before the end
[39:08.920 -> 39:14.040] of the race. Like that's what a one stop to a two stop can do when the tires lose life
[39:14.040 -> 39:20.760] and lap time. So that's, I feel like I give this rant every Pirelli tire review.
[39:20.760 -> 39:25.400] And you're not wrong.
[39:25.400 -> 39:26.400] You're not wrong.
[39:26.400 -> 39:27.400] All very solid points.
[39:27.400 -> 39:29.120] So, you know, we shall see.
[39:29.120 -> 39:30.120] It shall be interesting.
[39:30.120 -> 39:33.160] Yeah, those panic... there's nothing like it.
[39:33.160 -> 39:38.040] Those last couple laps of a race when there's just been such an unbelievable, incredible
[39:38.040 -> 39:41.960] difference, entire strategy just create, like, such an unbelievable panic.
[39:41.960 -> 39:43.880] I would love to see it again.
[39:43.880 -> 39:44.880] And it might rain.
[39:44.880 -> 39:46.080] Of course. So, who knows. So again. And it might rain. Of course. So who knows.
[39:47.600 -> 39:52.960] So do we want it to rain during QALY this time so that we can just throw this out the window of,
[39:54.000 -> 40:00.160] like, things? Like do we want it to rain for a little bit in Q1 just so that we can just throw
[40:00.160 -> 40:01.280] all this out the window?
[40:02.080 -> 40:06.020] Well, that would be better. Like, it raining a little bit in Q1 would be better
[40:06.020 -> 40:08.480] for the consistency of my year over year data
[40:08.480 -> 40:11.000] where I'm trying to see the development of teams.
[40:12.080 -> 40:14.600] Until next year when you're totally just like,
[40:14.600 -> 40:16.760] I have nothing.
[40:16.760 -> 40:18.080] Right.
[40:18.080 -> 40:20.660] But I actually would wanna see the new qualifying format
[40:20.660 -> 40:23.980] because I just would be interested to see if it works
[40:23.980 -> 40:26.040] and maybe it doesn't affect
[40:26.040 -> 40:30.160] anything and then Pirelli can, like, maybe we end up liking it. Like, you don't know
[40:30.160 -> 40:35.640] until we see it. And they're going to test it anyway, so the fact that they just keep
[40:35.640 -> 40:39.920] moving the mark of testing it, like, we might as well just test it, but it might rain in
[40:39.920 -> 40:42.360] every QALY session till the end of time.
[40:42.360 -> 40:43.360] It's caused.
[40:43.360 -> 40:49.780] Yeah. I more don't want it to rain because selfishly as a Mercedes fan, I think Mercedes might
[40:49.780 -> 40:55.240] not suck at this track, and I would like to see the performance of their new front wing
[40:55.240 -> 41:00.400] that was brought specifically for corners like the corners at the Hungaro Ring.
[41:00.400 -> 41:05.000] So it would be better for me selfish, to see if that front wing works.
[41:05.000 -> 41:08.000] So that's kind of how I feel.
[41:09.000 -> 41:17.000] Okay. And now we approach the subject, because I think this is going to be a major subject for what I believe the rest of the season.
[41:17.000 -> 41:21.000] But who even knows anymore, because I can't keep track of absolutely...
[41:21.000 -> 41:29.800] I mean, not that I can't keep track of absolutely anything, things happen sometimes when I least expect it let's talk about Checo
[41:29.800 -> 41:34.240] there's a lot of pressure on him and he can say is whatever he wants in the
[41:34.240 -> 41:38.720] press and as many times people ask him that he's not concerned of who has a
[41:38.720 -> 41:45.080] seat anywhere now but like if you're in Red Bull and if you're not.
[41:49.320 -> 41:49.800] Finishing P2 because again, as you're saying P1 Max has locked up.
[41:54.400 -> 41:58.320] Red Bull's not to like be losing the constructors or giving anyone an opportunity to gain enough points that they could not be locked into the
[41:58.320 -> 42:00.040] constructors in any possible chance.
[42:00.340 -> 42:04.240] They want to be locked in a P1 P2 situation and checko this season
[42:04.240 -> 42:06.280] has not been giving them that
[42:07.240 -> 42:14.240] Danny Rick is coming back to the grid this weekend and I'm trying to contain my Danny Rick excitement and speak about this from a
[42:14.940 -> 42:16.860] logistical standpoint
[42:16.860 -> 42:19.600] There's a lot of pressure from all sides
[42:20.380 -> 42:22.940] Do we realistically think that?
[42:23.800 -> 42:26.300] Do you think that there's actual pressure on him?
[42:26.300 -> 42:28.100] Do you think he should be nervous?
[42:28.100 -> 42:28.600] Right.
[42:28.600 -> 42:29.100] Yeah.
[42:29.100 -> 42:29.600] Okay.
[42:29.600 -> 42:30.100] Yeah.
[42:30.100 -> 42:30.600] Yeah.
[42:30.600 -> 42:31.800] Earth to check.
[42:31.800 -> 42:32.700] Don't be worried.
[42:32.700 -> 42:35.200] You're literally number two at Red Bull.
[42:35.200 -> 42:36.200] They can do whatever they want.
[42:36.200 -> 42:39.900] This was like, yeah, the number two car at Red Bull is like,
[42:39.900 -> 42:41.600] you should just always be worried.
[42:41.600 -> 42:44.700] Anyone who thought he shouldn't have been worried, even for
[42:44.700 -> 42:45.040] the last year, he should have always been worried. Anyone who thought he shouldn't have been worried, even for the last
[42:45.040 -> 42:52.480] year, he should have always been worried. Yeah. I think he got the kiss of death. As soon as you
[42:52.480 -> 42:58.080] get the, uh, we are backing you. Like, as soon as you get the backing statement, it's really just
[42:58.080 -> 43:02.640] the kiss of death. Yeah, so just Christian Horner is kind of like, we're not looking to replace
[43:02.640 -> 43:08.580] anybody, but you know, it's always really interesting to see what other drivers are doing xyz otherwhere.
[43:08.580 -> 43:09.580] It's like, other...
[43:09.580 -> 43:10.580] Everywhere else!
[43:10.580 -> 43:16.820] But yeah, no, you never want, no, you only want to hear Christian Horner talking about
[43:16.820 -> 43:20.440] you and no other driver ever.
[43:20.440 -> 43:22.800] I actually think you just don't want Christian talking about you.
[43:22.800 -> 43:30.000] As soon as Christian has to talk about you to the press, I think, out of the context of winning a race, I don't think you want that.
[43:30.000 -> 43:45.520] I think what we're seeing at, he gets it. I think
[43:45.520 -> 43:50.720] if neither of them are able to impress the big ups, then they'll go poach someone else
[43:50.720 -> 43:55.920] and he'll get it. Like, I think we're seeing the end of Checo in that Red Bull seat.
[43:55.920 -> 43:59.040] Red Bull's perfect around the grid and elsewhere.
[43:59.040 -> 44:06.080] Oh yeah, I think Red Bull has called every driver currently on the grid that they think is
[44:06.080 -> 44:08.480] at least serviceable.
[44:08.480 -> 44:09.680] Hey, you up?
[44:09.680 -> 44:11.720] Hey, you up?
[44:11.720 -> 44:12.560] Hey.
[44:13.600 -> 44:14.440] Hey.
[44:15.960 -> 44:18.960] Hey, you wanna, you want us to buy you out of that contract?
[44:19.880 -> 44:22.160] Hey, Alex Albaugh, like, gosh, going back,
[44:22.160 -> 44:23.920] talk about going back to an ex.
[44:26.720 -> 44:31.200] But I do think that not only is Checo on a back foot because of everything that's already happening, the fact that they're
[44:31.200 -> 44:36.800] bringing these massive side pod upgrades this weekend on top of everything else, Red Bull's
[44:36.800 -> 44:41.280] bringing like what hopefully would be their last major upgrade of the season that's supposed to
[44:41.280 -> 44:49.280] give them three plus tenths of lap time, which I never- like lap time assumptions, like who the hell knows. But we're about to see Red Bull take a
[44:49.280 -> 44:54.800] huge jump forward again, if we ever thought that someone was closing that gap. And we don't know
[44:54.800 -> 45:01.120] what they already can do! Like I still feel like the car could just like flip a switch and fly,
[45:01.120 -> 45:06.560] like who knows what this upgrade's gonna do. Yeah and so
[45:06.560 -> 45:09.400] Checo was already feeling like he's on the back foot of being able to control
[45:09.400 -> 45:14.280] the car then has to deal with a completely upgraded car this weekend. I
[45:14.280 -> 45:26.960] I am worried for him this week like and I wonder because because we know the Alpha Tauri is a dog, so, like, it's...
[45:26.960 -> 45:29.200] I wonder how many races...
[45:29.200 -> 45:33.480] Like, let's take the Daniel Riccardo out of it for a second.
[45:33.480 -> 45:37.960] But let's say, like, part of the reason Daniel Riccardo is there as well is so they can evaluate
[45:37.960 -> 45:38.960] Yuki.
[45:38.960 -> 45:41.320] They're evaluating both of them.
[45:41.320 -> 45:47.640] But let's say for the sake of your phantom, Daniel Riccardo destroys Yuki
[45:47.640 -> 45:54.680] for the next two races before summer break. Do you think, or vice versa, let's say Yuki
[45:54.680 -> 46:00.320] wrecks Daniel Riccardo for the next two races before summer break in pace and quality and
[46:00.320 -> 46:07.920] all the things, do you think they get the upgrade that quickly or do you think they'll even they'll give it longer? Like do you think he's actually
[46:07.920 -> 46:12.160] like where where in your betting odds right now are you for Checo making it to
[46:12.160 -> 46:16.300] the end of the season assuming one of the two AlphaTauri drivers is making the
[46:16.300 -> 46:21.540] other driver look silly? That's the line I'm going with here. Like if I think
[46:21.540 -> 46:25.400] Checo meaning that they're gonna call it before the end of the season? Mm-hmm. I don't that they're gonna call it before the end of the season?
[46:25.400 -> 46:27.560] I don't think they're gonna call it before the end of the season.
[46:27.560 -> 46:32.800] And I only think, and that is strictly only because of when Mexico is on the calendar.
[46:32.800 -> 46:34.920] Oh, that's a good point.
[46:34.920 -> 46:36.360] And that's it.
[46:36.360 -> 46:41.560] That's my whole entire argument, is they'll finish it out, they'll win P1, they'll, you
[46:41.560 -> 46:46.840] know, they'll, Max will win, Constructors will win, they'll go through the whole entire thing, and then
[46:46.840 -> 46:48.840] it'll be like a...
[46:48.840 -> 46:50.960] Do you think we'll get the announcement before then, though?
[46:50.960 -> 46:53.440] Or do you think we're gonna go to Mexico?
[46:53.440 -> 46:55.680] Right after Mexico.
[46:55.680 -> 46:56.680] Then what is it, Brazil?
[46:56.680 -> 46:59.520] And it's like the Brazil race week, and it's like, bye!
[46:59.520 -> 47:01.480] We're like going into Abu Dhabi.
[47:01.480 -> 47:09.380] It's like the last race, but if that happens before Mexico, someone,
[47:09.380 -> 47:13.340] I mean not that I think that Red Bull is lacking guts already because I think that's like their
[47:13.340 -> 47:20.320] whole entire shtick, but wow, I would be super, super surprised about that.
[47:20.320 -> 47:24.980] I mean unless then immediately like things begin, unless like then discussions go somewhere
[47:24.980 -> 47:28.160] else and then that's starting the whole conversation of then where Checo would go
[47:28.160 -> 47:33.440] elsewhere. And my brain is still trying to process Danny Rick being at Alphatari. So,
[47:33.440 -> 47:38.000] but I don't, I'm not forcing that being prior to Mexico.
[47:38.960 -> 47:44.720] Yeah, I guess except Checo, if, like, I think a lot of it comes down to Checo's camp,
[47:44.720 -> 47:45.640] because we found
[47:45.640 -> 47:49.040] this Danny Rick announcement wasn't supposed to happen the moment it happened, it was actually
[47:49.040 -> 47:52.620] Nick's camp that leaked it, because they were like, F this, we're not playing along with
[47:52.620 -> 47:57.500] your niceties here, and we're not going to make this easy on your PR team.
[47:57.500 -> 48:05.000] Like I wonder if Checo would want to know earlier to negotiate with other teams.
[48:05.000 -> 48:13.000] So I think what Checo and Checo's team wants might actually dictate the timeline of this.
[48:13.000 -> 48:18.000] And also whatever goes down in Silly Season. I think that's a guarantee.
[48:18.000 -> 48:19.000] When seats open up.
[48:19.000 -> 48:25.120] Right. So we'll see because I think that then opens up the conversation of who Checo would be
[48:25.120 -> 48:27.360] talking to?
[48:27.360 -> 48:29.480] Or if anyone, or maybe-
[48:29.480 -> 48:32.400] Because he was out of seat before this Red Bull scene.
[48:32.400 -> 48:33.400] Mm-hmm.
[48:33.400 -> 48:34.400] Yeah.
[48:34.400 -> 48:40.320] But, bringing this back to Hungry, I think that this is a huge qualifying for Checo.
[48:40.320 -> 48:44.120] And I think, he doesn't need to qualify well, he just needs to make it to Q3, and I think
[48:44.120 -> 48:45.040] we stop. Which is so crazy to even be saying that he just needs to make it to q3 and I think we stop
[48:45.040 -> 48:50.480] which is so crazy to even be saying that he just needs to make it to q3 in the red bull
[48:50.480 -> 48:58.400] in the rocket ship we're gonna do some predictions like we do every week uh it is not only is it the
[48:58.400 -> 49:11.160] second to last race before summer break that also means it's the second to last race before we completely reset our predictions. So an update last week for the British GP, Nicole scored five points
[49:11.160 -> 49:16.200] getting the her prediction that Max Verstappen was going to win right and getting her prediction
[49:16.200 -> 49:21.480] that McLaren is going to score the most points of the bottom five teams in the standings.
[49:21.480 -> 49:28.480] Earth shattering. I mean, you're saying that like that now, but no one had any idea. We make our predictions before any cars hit the track. We had zero
[49:28.480 -> 49:33.200] idea what was going to go on with that McLaren. Yeah, but we were picking McLaren vs. Haas,
[49:33.200 -> 49:38.480] Alfa Romeo, Alfa Tauri, and Williams. Like, I was... And neither of us picked McLaren
[49:38.480 -> 49:47.600] the week before, so... But, and then I scored three points because I didn't pick Max Verstappen to win the race
[49:47.600 -> 49:50.840] and I did pick McLaren.
[49:50.840 -> 49:54.920] I had another frustrating week where I was like one position off for like all my position
[49:54.920 -> 50:02.520] predictions, but I have 47 points and Nicole has 28.
[50:02.520 -> 50:07.360] This week we have more points on the line though, because in addition to our normal
[50:07.360 -> 50:13.080] predictions, we're going to do two Danny Rick themed predictions, both worth an additional
[50:13.080 -> 50:14.080] two points.
[50:14.080 -> 50:15.080] Three points?
[50:15.080 -> 50:16.080] Two points?
[50:16.080 -> 50:17.080] Which one do you want?
[50:17.080 -> 50:18.080] Sure, three.
[50:18.080 -> 50:19.080] What do I have to lose?
[50:19.080 -> 50:25.000] Probably nothing, because I'm already losing.
[50:25.000 -> 50:29.000] Both words and an additional three points.
[50:29.000 -> 50:35.000] So, starting where we always start, Nicole, who do you have winning the race?
[50:35.000 -> 50:42.000] I'm going to just keep going until someone just proves me differently.
[50:42.000 -> 50:47.120] It's still Max. I have Max winning. I had a lot of
[50:47.120 -> 50:51.460] fun not picking Max Verstappen last week to win this race, but I did pick Max
[50:51.460 -> 50:56.120] Verstappen to win the race this weekend. Last weekend it was a British Grand Prix
[50:56.120 -> 51:00.400] special, but I agree until someone else proves that they can win a race, I will
[51:00.400 -> 51:08.320] continue to pick Max. Fantastic. Yeah. Welcome back to this side of the track. And we
[51:08.320 -> 51:11.320] missed you. It looked a lot more fun over there for the
[51:11.320 -> 51:14.200] episode, but it was really good to get those points.
[51:14.240 -> 51:14.520] Yeah.
[51:16.880 -> 51:19.600] Who do you have for your P4 just missing your podium?
[51:20.760 -> 51:24.320] All right. Now we enter the stretch of I hate all the
[51:24.320 -> 51:26.680] predictions I've made.
[51:26.680 -> 51:30.600] But I'm going to say something I feel like I've been saying for weeks now, which is I
[51:30.600 -> 51:36.480] really don't think Checo can perform worse in qualifying than he has been performing.
[51:36.480 -> 51:40.760] His race pace, Checo's race pace has actually been good.
[51:40.760 -> 51:44.160] He's just starting too far back for us to notice.
[51:44.160 -> 51:45.640] So I don't think his qualifying
[51:45.640 -> 51:49.960] performance is going to be perfect, but I think it's going to be good enough for him
[51:49.960 -> 51:55.960] to finish P4. Do you think he's going to get out of, do you think he's going to, do you
[51:55.960 -> 52:08.040] think Checo's going to make it to Q3 not affecting your predictions anywhere else? No, but I think he's gonna get out of Q1. I think is what I would, I
[52:08.040 -> 52:14.960] yeah, I think Checo will not be out in Q3, but I don't think he's going to qualify at
[52:14.960 -> 52:18.920] least in the top eight. But I think the Red Bulls are rocket ship and his race pace has
[52:18.920 -> 52:25.560] been decent. So I think he'll be fine in the race. So P4, not on the
[52:25.560 -> 52:29.880] podium, but P4. What about you? Who's your P4?
[52:30.320 -> 52:34.760] So my P4 of just missing the podium, I am doing a whole bunch
[52:34.760 -> 52:42.840] of my preferred F1 PEMDAS. And my P4, I have George Russell. So
[52:42.840 -> 52:47.560] you can try and figure out who I have in between and where I want other things to fall
[52:47.560 -> 52:51.160] and I'm not going to fill it in for you, but I have George Russell in P4.
[52:51.160 -> 52:55.600] I also haven't picked George in a minute, so it just kind of felt like I was spicing
[52:55.600 -> 52:57.640] it up a little.
[52:57.640 -> 53:04.320] I am hopeful and the data shows me that Mercedes should have a better weekend than last weekend.
[53:04.320 -> 53:08.560] And last weekend, look, Lewis was on the podium last weekend. It wasn't a bad weekend, even though it felt awful.
[53:08.560 -> 53:12.240] This P4 jumped around. I had this jumped around a little bit, but I settled on.
[53:12.960 -> 53:18.160] My P4, P7, and P10 felt like a nightmare to pick. I can't believe I've landed on what I've
[53:18.160 -> 53:29.400] landed on, but I'm living with it. So who's your P7, Nicole? You start this time. So my P7 best of the rest, I am kind of going by the vibes of,
[53:29.400 -> 53:32.400] I feel like cars that will be good at Monaco might be good in Hungary,
[53:32.400 -> 53:38.000] and particularly driver that had a good race in Monaco was Estibesti Esteban Ocon.
[53:38.000 -> 53:41.000] So I have Esteban and P7.
[53:41.000 -> 53:42.600] Who do you have in P7?
[53:42.600 -> 53:45.680] I also think that Alpine should perform better here, but I...
[53:46.640 -> 53:53.600] it's really hard to predict Alpine's performance, but I actually went with a Ferrari driver,
[53:53.600 -> 54:00.320] and I went with Charlotte Clare in my P7, because I am not confident that the Ferrari...
[54:00.960 -> 54:07.000] Nicole, did you just fall? I knocked over Taylor Swift in my stunt. I'm so sorry Taylor, this is so fun. I don't remember the last time she's picked Charles for anything.
[54:07.000 -> 54:09.000] Okay, I'm losing it.
[54:09.000 -> 54:18.000] I don't ever trust the Ferraris, but I think they will not be, if we're ranking the teams under Red Bull,
[54:18.000 -> 54:22.000] I don't think they're going to be the worst. So I think they're going to fall right in the middle,
[54:22.000 -> 54:27.600] and P7 to me feels like right in the middle.
[54:27.600 -> 54:29.400] So Charlotte Clare P7.
[54:29.400 -> 54:30.900] F1 Pembeg.
[54:30.900 -> 54:32.200] Yeah.
[54:32.200 -> 54:32.600] Yeah.
[54:32.600 -> 54:36.400] It's also just famous last words.
[54:36.400 -> 54:41.600] I just don't think they will anything else famous last for a long time.
[54:41.600 -> 54:43.600] And they will do the opposite.
[54:43.600 -> 54:46.080] But last week was such a disaster. A lot the opposite. But last week was such a disaster.
[54:46.080 -> 54:50.640] A lot of this is last week was such a disaster. We're going to a completely different track.
[54:51.600 -> 54:58.320] Ferrari is normally good on tight twisty bits. Traditionally, this isn't a tire eater circuit.
[54:58.320 -> 55:05.000] Tires might not matter. And so sad. They should have been so much better last week. They just totally botched it.
[55:05.000 -> 55:08.000] All of the times. All of the times.
[55:08.000 -> 55:10.000] All right. Who should go P10?
[55:10.000 -> 55:19.000] We get to wrap out P10, our last in the points. I'm going to go last because I'm going to go last.
[55:19.000 -> 55:26.440] Oh, yeah. I already inferred who you're picking. So I went with Lance Stroll for P10. I really don't
[55:26.440 -> 55:30.000] know what's going on with the Aston Martin because they did bring this
[55:30.000 -> 55:34.040] massive upgrade a couple races ago and it just hasn't materialized in any way
[55:34.040 -> 55:40.680] but I think they all season have better been better on tracks with slower turns
[55:40.680 -> 55:45.580] and not high-speed corners so I think Alonzo is gonna be a little higher
[55:45.580 -> 55:49.720] up I don't think they're gonna like jump again to the front I'd be really I'd be
[55:49.720 -> 55:55.300] really surprised if they jumped up a lot again so I'm hoping points for Lance
[55:55.300 -> 55:59.460] that would make me happy P-10 all right Nicole you can do your thing
[55:59.460 -> 56:08.480] do your thing because I can and because it's possible and look everyone I understand
[56:08.480 -> 56:16.260] Alfatari's car sucks it is I I mean it's just it's a it's a brick I've been
[56:16.260 -> 56:25.000] calling it a brick all season but because I can and because I'm able to Last in the points is Mr. DANIEL RICARDO!
[56:25.000 -> 56:33.880] And it's fine, and it's fine, and it's fine, because I don't feel hopeful.
[56:33.880 -> 56:44.400] I'm doing it because I can, and because his face is on the garage!
[56:44.400 -> 56:47.920] If anyone hasn't listened or watched our bonus episode, which was our
[56:47.920 -> 56:52.680] immediate reaction, if you want to see like a really fun version of Nicole, I would highly
[56:52.680 -> 56:58.760] recommend going and watching it. I used to have a landline behind me, but this landline
[56:58.760 -> 57:08.000] was removed so I can't ask for help on this landline. I will. I'll give some actual Alphatari analysis, because
[57:08.000 -> 57:12.960] look, Alphatari getting points isn't crazy. Yuki has gotten points this season. Yeah,
[57:12.960 -> 57:17.680] Nicole has her fingers in her ears. She's not nervous. But this is, Nicole, this is not for
[57:17.680 -> 57:22.240] you. I know you know what I'm about to say, but I feel like for those listening who expect a little
[57:22.240 -> 57:25.120] bit of analysis, we should provide some.
[57:25.120 -> 57:29.440] And it's that Alcantara's issue all season has been the breaks.
[57:29.440 -> 57:35.200] And Daniel Ricciardo makes up his lap time as a, like, breaker, and this circuit requires
[57:35.200 -> 57:37.000] a lot of braking.
[57:37.000 -> 57:43.320] But that doesn't mean it's impossible, and oh my god.
[57:43.320 -> 57:44.320] I wish it was on purpose.
[57:44.320 -> 57:47.440] I wish I could claim it was on purpose, but even my tripod was
[57:47.440 -> 57:53.960] like, nope, we don't want to hear it. Daniel's won this race before. He can do it again.
[57:53.960 -> 57:59.640] Not really. I mean, imagine that. No, Nicole, hope alarm. Hope alarm myself. I gotta chill
[57:59.640 -> 58:06.000] down. Daniel Riccardo, P10 is where...
[58:06.000 -> 58:09.000] Look, I can't say anything.
[58:09.000 -> 58:12.000] I picked Lewis Hamilton to win the race last week.
[58:12.000 -> 58:15.000] So before we get back to Daniel...
[58:15.000 -> 58:19.000] You make me think of this hope of Lewis winning and I'm just like,
[58:19.000 -> 58:22.000] he's gonna finish in the points!
[58:22.000 -> 58:23.000] Daniel Ricciardo!
[58:23.000 -> 58:26.200] Oh, I would cry. That's how just poetic of
[58:26.200 -> 58:27.700] this moment would be for me.
[58:27.700 -> 58:31.400] I think you should just be happy if Daniel Ricciardo finishes the race.
[58:31.400 -> 58:35.700] I would. I'm gonna cry if he finishes the race.
[58:35.700 -> 58:41.280] I think you're gonna cry in FP1 just when he's on track. Okay, but before we get to
[58:41.280 -> 58:44.880] more Daniel Ricciardo stuff, because we do have our special Daniel Ricciardo predictions.
[58:44.880 -> 58:48.480] Nicole, real quick, who do you have of our bottom five in the
[58:48.480 -> 58:51.040] Constructors' standings? Who do you have scoring the most points this week?
[58:51.680 -> 58:58.560] So I did go by the rest of my picks here. So I did pick Alpine as the highest scoring point,
[58:58.560 -> 59:03.360] just because I have a 5S, 5C, and P7. I mean, I kind of hope that follows through.
[59:03.600 -> 59:09.980] I have high estimation of P7. I mean, I kind of hope that follows through. I also picked Alpine, mostly because I am done picking teams that are not Alpine or
[59:09.980 -> 59:15.000] McLaren as they swap places into P6 and the Constructors, because I feel silly when I do it!
[59:15.000 -> 59:22.700] Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if Alex Albon gives us a reason to, you know, eat our words, go for it, Alex.
[59:22.700 -> 59:24.000] I give you permission.
[59:24.000 -> 59:28.000] Hey, I'm telling you all next week that Alex Albon is going to be in my predictions,
[59:28.000 -> 59:35.000] and Williams is going to be the team I pick, even after saying that I'm going to stop picking teams that are not Alpine and McLaren.
[59:35.000 -> 59:39.000] It will be Williams next week at Spa. This track? No, not so much.
[59:39.000 -> 59:42.000] But I will be fully on that Williams hype train next week at Spa.
[59:42.000 -> 59:45.980] Alright, Daniel Ricciardo predictions.
[59:45.980 -> 59:48.800] So, since Nicole has already revealed hers,
[59:48.800 -> 59:50.640] one of them is that we were predicting
[59:50.640 -> 59:52.400] where Daniel Ricciardo was gonna finish the race.
[59:52.400 -> 59:54.400] Nicole has predicted that hers is P10.
[59:55.500 -> 59:57.120] So my prediction is P17.
[59:58.760 -> 01:00:00.580] I can't hear you, P10!
[01:00:02.080 -> 01:00:05.760] Okay, and then the other prediction we're gonna do is
[01:00:06.640 -> 01:00:10.980] Do you think Daniel Ricardo in his first race week back is going to qualify?
[01:00:11.700 -> 01:00:14.180] below or above Yuki Sonoda
[01:00:14.920 -> 01:00:16.920] He's gonna get Paul. What do you mean?
[01:00:18.240 -> 01:00:24.320] I'm going to inform and for everyone who is only listening that through that entire segment
[01:00:24.760 -> 01:00:29.640] Nicole has been like cha-cha with her hands. I guess is the best way to do it. I
[01:00:30.580 -> 01:00:36.820] Don't know how to describe it. Yes, but Nicole has been dancing and basically ignoring everything
[01:00:36.820 -> 01:00:41.320] I'm saying which is totally fine. She's just in delusional happy Daniel Riccardo fan
[01:00:41.320 -> 01:00:45.120] I will also point out that for the first time in a whole year now,
[01:00:45.120 -> 01:00:49.120] because in a weirdly poetic way, Hungary was where everything went down last year,
[01:00:50.480 -> 01:00:55.520] Nicole has brought out her McLaren Daniel Riccardo jersey that she swore to never wear again.
[01:00:56.640 -> 01:00:59.840] The irony is so not lost on me.
[01:01:00.560 -> 01:01:04.160] Yeah, yeah. But it's a cool jersey, so I'm glad you're willing to wear it again.
[01:01:04.160 -> 01:01:05.440] It's expensive. So it's also just, you know, everyone, not it's a cool jersey, so I'm glad you're willing to wear it again. It's expensive.
[01:01:05.440 -> 01:01:08.800] So, it's also just, you know, everyone, not an Oscar jersey.
[01:01:08.800 -> 01:01:13.360] Yes, it is a Daniel Riccardo jersey that I did buy before it all went down.
[01:01:13.360 -> 01:01:15.280] Oh, and I didn't say it out loud.
[01:01:15.280 -> 01:01:18.960] I actually, I think Yuki's going to outqualify Daniel Riccardo.
[01:01:18.960 -> 01:01:19.960] Poll position.
[01:01:19.960 -> 01:01:22.840] Sorry, I forgot to ask because I already had my answer.
[01:01:22.840 -> 01:01:23.840] No, it's okay.
[01:01:23.840 -> 01:01:27.240] I think, I think we, I just got to throw it in.
[01:01:27.240 -> 01:01:30.520] Those are our predictions.
[01:01:30.520 -> 01:01:31.600] All right, hold on, Nicole.
[01:01:31.600 -> 01:01:35.480] Let me give you some music to dance off to.
[01:01:35.480 -> 01:01:35.960] Here we go.
[01:01:43.560 -> 01:01:55.680] Gosh, this is going to be great in a report card. Welcome back to Yellow Sector Notes.
[01:01:55.680 -> 01:01:59.240] Not the fastest walk around F1, but we will complete a full lap around the paddock, hitting
[01:01:59.240 -> 01:02:01.040] every F1 garage.
[01:02:01.040 -> 01:02:04.360] Because this segment is my opportunity to tell you about news topics and things that
[01:02:04.360 -> 01:02:08.800] happened that we didn't get a chance to cover, I'm going a little bit off grid this week.
[01:02:08.800 -> 01:02:10.640] And I'm starting with an IndyCar story.
[01:02:10.640 -> 01:02:11.960] That's a different grid.
[01:02:11.960 -> 01:02:13.600] Uh-huh, different grid.
[01:02:13.600 -> 01:02:16.120] But I make a tenuous F1 connection.
[01:02:16.120 -> 01:02:19.400] And that's because this weekend Christian Lundgaard, who was a formerly an F2 driver,
[01:02:19.400 -> 01:02:24.960] by the way that's my tenuous F1 connection, won his first race in IndyCar in his second
[01:02:24.960 -> 01:02:26.120] season in the series.
[01:02:26.120 -> 01:02:29.300] This story is exciting for so many reasons, and you might think I'm saying it's exciting
[01:02:29.300 -> 01:02:33.240] because he's driving for a back-of-the-grid team that even failed to qualify all their
[01:02:33.240 -> 01:02:35.840] cars for the Indy 500, but that's not why I'm talking about this.
[01:02:35.840 -> 01:02:39.740] I'm talking about this for two other reasons that are much more important.
[01:02:39.740 -> 01:02:44.120] Reason number one, when Christian crossed the line first, they put a camera right on
[01:02:44.120 -> 01:02:46.080] his best friend who attended this
[01:02:46.080 -> 01:02:50.800] race and he doesn't normally attend races, he just happened to come to this one and his friend was
[01:02:50.800 -> 01:02:55.520] bawling his eyes out, so happy and proud for his friend and it was one of the sweetest displays of
[01:02:55.520 -> 01:03:01.120] friendship that I've seen, specifically like male friendship, and I just started crying. Like I was
[01:03:01.120 -> 01:03:10.040] happy for Christian to win his first race, like that's really exciting. But I just bawling tears watching his friend cry so happy for his friend to
[01:03:10.040 -> 01:03:14.040] win this race. And a reminder that IndyCar is a spec series, so winning is really fucking
[01:03:14.040 -> 01:03:19.920] hard. You would think that's all. No, no, no, that is not actually the true reason.
[01:03:19.920 -> 01:03:23.240] I didn't just want to bring this up because I wanted to talk about how I cried watching
[01:03:23.240 -> 01:03:33.560] the IndyCar race this weekend. No, no, no. Christian and this same best friend made a bet that they would both grow and not shave their mustaches until he won his first IndyCar race.
[01:03:33.560 -> 01:03:37.560] And these mustaches were getting a bit old.
[01:03:37.560 -> 01:03:46.800] And in some of the best content I've seen of the entire year, they both shaved their stashes on the podium post-champagne. So, Nicole,
[01:03:48.000 -> 01:03:53.200] we're gonna watch both of these moments. I'm gonna share his friend crying so you can feel
[01:03:53.200 -> 01:04:00.160] heartfelt, and then we're gonna watch him shave his mustache because it was just glorious. I will
[01:04:00.160 -> 01:04:06.440] say that when I saw him win the race, I just tweeted in all caps, SHAVE THE STASH!
[01:04:06.440 -> 01:04:08.440] And he heard you, and he did.
[01:04:08.440 -> 01:04:11.940] More importantly, IndyCarb, who doesn't normally jump on things this well,
[01:04:11.940 -> 01:04:14.940] like, got him- like, I thought he was gonna go home and shave it,
[01:04:14.940 -> 01:04:17.440] and no no no, their content found a razor, and-
[01:04:17.440 -> 01:04:22.940] Alright, so, uh, you'll all hear us in a moment after we finish watching this.
[01:04:22.940 -> 01:04:24.940] Oh my gosh!
[01:04:23.560 -> 01:04:25.560] us in a moment after we finish watching this. Oh my gosh!
[01:04:28.560 -> 01:04:30.560] That's so awesome!
[01:04:31.560 -> 01:04:34.560] He'd never been to a race before!
[01:04:36.560 -> 01:04:38.560] That's unbelievable.
[01:04:39.560 -> 01:04:41.560] Awwww!
[01:04:41.560 -> 01:04:44.560] Shave the stache! Shave the stache!
[01:04:44.560 -> 01:04:45.000] Wait, my favorite part is that the random man goes, Awww! Shave the stache. Shave the stache.
[01:04:45.000 -> 01:04:47.000] Wait, my favorite part is that the random man goes,
[01:04:47.000 -> 01:04:49.000] You're gorgeous.
[01:04:49.000 -> 01:04:52.000] Like, just like listen to this random journalist.
[01:04:52.000 -> 01:04:56.000] Multiple, multiple people, or multiple times of saying,
[01:04:56.000 -> 01:04:58.000] You're gorgeous.
[01:04:58.000 -> 01:05:02.000] The long cut of this video is that he calls his friend up,
[01:05:02.000 -> 01:05:04.000] and then he hands his friend the razor, and it goes,
[01:05:04.000 -> 01:05:08.940] No, no, no, you do it. And then he had to shave his friend's stache.
[01:05:08.940 -> 01:05:15.460] Iconic. All right now back to our regularly scheduled programming and now
[01:05:15.460 -> 01:05:23.620] that the stache was shaved. Obviously we'll link both of
[01:05:23.620 -> 01:05:25.000] those in our show notes.
[01:05:25.000 -> 01:05:29.000] So if you also missed this fantastic moment, you can watch it.
[01:05:29.000 -> 01:05:34.000] All right, Christian Horner was interviewed on the F1 run podcast F1 Nation this week,
[01:05:34.000 -> 01:05:41.000] where he discussed all the details that led to Nick Devereux's firing and reassured everyone the Czechos seat is safe.
[01:05:41.000 -> 01:05:47.080] There will be a dedicated kids feed for the race this weekend in the UK on Sky Sports.
[01:05:47.080 -> 01:05:51.080] The broadcast will feature young commentators, unique graphics, and Nico Rosberg and Danica
[01:05:51.080 -> 01:05:53.600] Patrick are going to be the adults in the room.
[01:05:53.600 -> 01:05:54.600] I'm happy for Danica.
[01:05:54.600 -> 01:05:55.600] That seems cool.
[01:05:55.600 -> 01:06:00.080] Mercedes, Aston Martin, Williams, and McLaren all participated in the Goodwood Festival
[01:06:00.080 -> 01:06:01.520] of Speed in England last weekend.
[01:06:01.520 -> 01:06:08.240] Oscar Piastri, Alex Alba, Logan Sargent, Mick Schumacher, and Sebastian Vettel were just a few of the current and former F1 drivers who participated
[01:06:08.240 -> 01:06:13.520] in this event. Toto was back at the Harvard Business School teaching this week. And finally,
[01:06:13.520 -> 01:06:18.640] F1 is looking to make the engines of the 2026 regulations lighter and louder. That is the
[01:06:18.640 -> 01:06:22.800] gridwalk for July 20th, 2023 completed. How was my sector time today, Nicole?
[01:06:23.720 -> 01:06:28.320] With 2023 completed, how was my sector time today, Nicole? Faster than Red Bull is probably going to fire Treco.
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[01:07:17.640 -> 01:07:23.240] We will be back to walk the Formula One grid every single Thursday and we sincerely hope
[01:07:23.240 -> 01:07:27.420] you join us. Today felt like a grid meeting instead of a grid walk.
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