F1MG Spanish GP 2023 Betting Review and Race Reactions

Podcast: F1 Money Gang

Published Date:

Thu, 08 Jun 2023 08:15:22 -0500

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49:07

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Summary

### Introduction

- Welcome to the Spanish Grand Prix Review Show with Dolcetto (@Call_of_Footy on Twitter) and Del Tiro.
- The show is brought to you by BetStamps, a new partner that provides access to nearly 50 sportsbooks and DFS apps in North America.
- This episode focuses on the Spanish Grand Prix and the performance of various teams and drivers.


### Community Bet

- The community bet for the Spanish Grand Prix was "over 10-second margin at 1.6 or -167 odds."
- This bet was a winner, as Max Verstappen won the race by over 20 seconds.
- The community bet has been very successful this season, going 5-2 overall and 18-5 all-time.


### Team and Driver Performances

**Ferrari:**

- Ferrari had a disappointing race, with Charles Leclerc finishing in fourth place and Carlos Sainz Jr. retiring due to a mechanical issue.
- Leclerc was frustrated with the team's strategy and questioned why they chose hard tires instead of softs.
- The team's struggles continued, with Leclerc expressing concerns about recurring issues that they cannot identify.


**Red Bull:**

- Max Verstappen dominated the race, winning by a large margin and securing his third Grand Slam of the season.
- Verstappen's performance was so strong that he could have won even if he hadn't changed tires at the end of the race.
- Red Bull's dominance is expected to continue, but there may be opportunities for other teams to challenge them on certain tracks.


**Mercedes:**

- Mercedes had a strong race, with George Russell and Lewis Hamilton finishing in second and third place, respectively.
- Russell was particularly impressive, showing great pace and overtaking several cars during the race.
- The team's upgrades seem to be working, and they may be able to challenge Red Bull more consistently in the future.


**Other Teams and Drivers:**

- Guanyu Zhou had a solid race for Alfa Romeo, finishing in ninth place and continuing to outperform his teammate, Valtteri Bottas.
- Alpine scored double points with Fernando Alonso and Esteban Ocon finishing in fifth and seventh place, respectively.
- Sergio Perez had a disappointing race for Red Bull, finishing in fourth place after struggling with tire wear and making mistakes.



**Spanish Grand Prix Recap and Insights:**

- The hosts express their excitement about their new partnership with Betstamp.app, which provides access to various sportsbooks and DFS apps in North America.


- They also promote their Discord server and website, encouraging listeners to engage with them and support their content.


- The hosts rate the Spanish Grand Prix a 7 out of 10, praising the entertainment value and strategic elements brought by multiple pit stops.


- They acknowledge the skepticism surrounding the new layout of the Barcelona-Catalunya circuit, but ultimately find it interesting and look forward to seeing how it evolves in future races.


- The hosts discuss their attendance at the IndyCar race in Detroit, Michigan, expressing their positive experience and recommending it to motorsports enthusiasts.


- They highlight the accessibility of the track, allowing spectators to watch the race from various vantage points for free.


- They also mention meeting a Discord member, Jim Sauce, and emphasize the sense of community among F1 fans.


- The hosts speculate on the possibility of a higher-ranked race coming to Detroit in 2028, but refrain from revealing more details.


- They encourage listeners to join their Discord server for IndyCar content and share their success in making accurate predictions for the IndyCar matchups.


**Canadian Grand Prix Preview:**

- The hosts preview the upcoming Canadian Grand Prix, emphasizing its characteristics as a powertrack.


- They predict that Red Bull will continue to dominate due to their car's strength in high-speed sections.


- They suggest keeping an eye on Aston Martin and Haas, who may perform well on this type of track.


- They also mention the potential for Williams to surprise and advise caution with McLaren due to their struggles with draggy circuits.


- The hosts discuss Fernando Alonso's qualifying performance last year in Canada, suggesting the possibility of a strong qualifying result for Alpine.


- They emphasize the importance of monitoring weather conditions, as rain could impact the race strategy.


- The hosts announce plans for another sim race on F1 22 Canada GP and encourage listeners to join the Discord server to participate.

### Conclusion

- The Spanish Grand Prix was a dominant performance by Max Verstappen and Red Bull.
- Mercedes showed signs of improvement, while Ferrari continued to struggle.
- Several other teams and drivers had notable performances, including Guanyu Zhou, Alpine, and Sergio Perez.
- The Formula One season continues with the Monaco Grand Prix next weekend.

Raw Transcript with Timestamps

[00:00.000 -> 00:06.640] Welcome to the F1 Money Gang Review Show with our one and only Dolcetto,
[00:06.640 -> 00:09.720] aka at Call of Footy on Twitter.
[00:09.720 -> 00:14.680] We are here to recap the weekend at the F1MG Discord with our tipsters.
[00:14.680 -> 00:20.280] We had a lot of action this weekend and the race itself, the Spanish Grand Prix race.
[00:20.280 -> 00:21.960] But before we get into it,
[00:21.960 -> 00:24.800] the show is actually brought to you by BetStamps,
[00:24.800 -> 00:27.000] a new partner that we just signed with last week.
[00:27.000 -> 00:35.000] We have a landing page basically where it gives you the ability to shop many markets within your area, your state I should say.
[00:35.000 -> 00:48.120] It should have all the books aggregated with all these promo offerings from like MGM, DraftKings, whatever is offered in your state. So again, there is a landing page where you can actually get access to these books.
[00:48.160 -> 00:52.880] But yeah, more importantly, the Spanish Grand Prix.
[00:53.120 -> 00:55.320] What is going on, Del Tiro?
[00:55.320 -> 01:00.640] Well, I I missed it for the first time because I had a long weekend here.
[01:00.640 -> 01:04.360] I went to the Detroit GP with with our only
[01:07.920 -> 01:12.760] Chris or Tegrity Betts. So this was the first race I missed in three years I think since my last son
[01:12.760 -> 01:18.480] was born and yeah and I had to watch it today so I could do the show with
[01:18.480 -> 01:22.600] you because I was like, when you texted me I was like sure I'll do a show but I
[01:22.600 -> 01:25.840] gotta watch the the race first I can't just come here and talk.
[01:25.840 -> 01:27.600] I I completely forgot.
[01:27.600 -> 01:28.840] I know it was a busy weekend.
[01:28.840 -> 01:37.200] We'll get into that here later, because there was the IndyCar race in Detroit for the listeners out there.
[01:37.840 -> 01:41.800] He was busy with our own mech integrity bets.
[01:42.560 -> 01:43.560] He was also out there.
[01:43.560 -> 01:44.960] So not going to lie.
[01:44.960 -> 01:47.600] I had a little FOMO, wanted to be there so bad.
[01:47.800 -> 01:50.040] But yes, you did miss the race.
[01:50.240 -> 01:55.640] Yeah, yeah, I it was it was a pretty good weekend from the from the team.
[01:55.840 -> 01:59.240] That's for sure. And I saw the community bet.
[01:59.440 -> 02:02.680] That was the one the community bet for sure.
[02:02.880 -> 02:06.880] Yes, we are now five and two on the season.
[02:07.420 -> 02:09.320] Again, I'm going to repeat this.
[02:09.320 -> 02:11.700] It should be six and one.
[02:12.060 -> 02:14.400] Thanks to the Aussie Grand Prix.
[02:14.400 -> 02:16.760] But yes, five and two for the season.
[02:16.800 -> 02:19.060] Eighteen and five all time.
[02:19.080 -> 02:19.980] It is.
[02:19.980 -> 02:22.720] I mean, that's a pretty phenomenal record right there.
[02:23.540 -> 02:24.320] Pretty phenomenal.
[02:24.320 -> 02:27.340] Last year, we went 14 and three and we're already well,
[02:28.200 -> 02:30.400] five and two hours of four and two or five.
[02:30.400 -> 02:34.060] And I think it's I think it's time to I think I must have changed their graphics.
[02:34.060 -> 02:35.340] Sorry. No. Yeah.
[02:35.340 -> 02:37.100] Five and two regardless.
[02:37.100 -> 02:40.140] Community bet just on fire for the viewers.
[02:40.140 -> 02:44.200] If you don't know what or listeners, if you're listening on from on Spotify
[02:44.200 -> 02:45.840] or Apple, our discord're listening on Spotify or Apple.
[02:51.920 -> 02:56.080] Our Discord, we launch the vote for your best pick for the for the weekend. So it has to be a pick that just opens up after qualifying.
[02:56.080 -> 02:59.120] And I don't know exactly what time we we tend to post it,
[02:59.120 -> 03:02.480] but usually it's definitely always after qualifying when odds are posting.
[03:02.480 -> 03:05.400] So sometime in the late afternoon,
[03:05.400 -> 03:08.080] late afternoon in the US time.
[03:08.160 -> 03:10.440] Yeah. So probably late evening.
[03:10.440 -> 03:13.320] I know it's going to be tough for people that are overseas, but
[03:14.040 -> 03:18.800] basically we open the vote and it stays open until what?
[03:18.800 -> 03:20.880] About a couple hours before the race.
[03:20.880 -> 03:24.760] And then that's when we actually get the votes going and we tally who has the best.
[03:24.760 -> 03:30.160] And this week, the winning vote for the pick that we wanted
[03:30.160 -> 03:39.040] was over 10 second margin at 1.6 or minus 167 odds, which,
[03:39.040 -> 03:41.480] I mean, was just easy money.
[03:41.480 -> 03:42.320] I mean, it was free.
[03:42.320 -> 03:42.820] It was free.
[03:42.820 -> 03:44.200] It was free money.
[03:44.200 -> 03:47.800] But there was a little tidbit from our own team
[03:47.800 -> 03:49.000] man in the Discord.
[03:49.000 -> 03:51.320] And he did say, he said this.
[03:51.320 -> 03:54.520] If you played the top three today,
[03:54.520 -> 03:56.920] so I don't know which one is exactly that is on there.
[03:56.920 -> 04:01.240] So definitely it's the over 10 second margin.
[04:01.240 -> 04:02.280] We'll get into it.
[04:02.280 -> 04:07.440] But you would have profited 1.75 units. I think year to date
[04:08.000 -> 04:13.520] He had because he's tallying this throughout the year year to date if you played the top three bets every time
[04:14.160 -> 04:17.200] you'd be up 11.2 units meaning
[04:18.000 -> 04:21.360] You just bet the top three votes every week
[04:22.160 -> 04:25.000] You would have been up 11 units already.
[04:25.000 -> 04:26.000] Incredible.
[04:26.000 -> 04:31.800] The second thing he said is, if you played any play with at least
[04:31.800 -> 04:35.000] two votes today, you would have made two units.
[04:35.000 -> 04:38.200] And I think I didn't have the year today, but it's just pretty
[04:38.200 -> 04:40.000] crazy. Just the community bet alone.
[04:40.000 -> 04:43.200] You could just go there, wait till a couple hours before the
[04:43.200 -> 04:48.600] race, cherry pick, take the top three, do whatever you want, play them all.
[04:49.120 -> 04:51.960] I don't know about that, but play them, play whatever you want.
[04:52.240 -> 04:53.280] You'd still profit.
[04:53.280 -> 04:56.360] Yeah. And that's the one thing that that it's that is really
[04:56.360 -> 04:58.760] I saw somebody post in the discord about
[04:59.800 -> 05:02.200] the community bet is that,
[05:02.200 -> 05:04.840] you know, like you could look at the community back.
[05:06.400 -> 05:09.800] You could pick and choose what you want because it's usually people's favorite bet on there.
[05:09.800 -> 05:13.400] Like you said, I don't know what the year to date is, but I'm sure you're going to be
[05:13.400 -> 05:14.400] up.
[05:14.400 -> 05:15.400] For sure.
[05:15.400 -> 05:19.940] And I think probably half of them, most of us will post something in there.
[05:19.940 -> 05:21.440] We may have that play or not.
[05:21.440 -> 05:26.760] But yeah, I just think it's just another addition to what F1
[05:26.760 -> 05:33.040] Money Game brings, which is you have all these fantastic tipsters, including yourself. And
[05:33.040 -> 05:39.520] then, hell, we just have this community just where we just say, let's all vote on our best.
[05:39.520 -> 05:44.440] And usually we get about 10 picks in there. So it's pretty, pretty incredible, I gotta
[05:44.440 -> 05:45.880] say. Yeah.
[05:45.880 -> 09:26.320] And that will bring me to, you know. you you you you you you you you you to You
[09:29.320 -> 09:30.160] Expecting Ferrari to do a little bit better. Well
[09:37.040 -> 09:39.320] I won't say signs. I mean signs that all kind of we we expected that from him But like Leclerc Wow, Jesus, man
[09:40.680 -> 09:47.260] I'm very vocal about the guy. I know I am I'm very very vocal about him
[09:47.940 -> 09:51.480] But I'm I got a few I just feel so bad now at this point
[09:51.480 -> 09:57.160] I really do feel bad for him because this team is doing him. Absolutely. No favors none whatsoever
[09:57.800 -> 10:02.940] They did not help him out with his strategy as well. They he was like
[10:03.660 -> 10:06.040] Questioning why not go with softs?
[10:06.040 -> 10:07.360] Maybe that was the right call.
[10:07.360 -> 10:08.400] Maybe it wasn't.
[10:08.400 -> 10:11.360] They went to hards and they ended up and he just wasn't getting pace.
[10:11.960 -> 10:15.720] Either way, I just that's just it's just not working out with
[10:15.800 -> 10:17.880] with him in the in Ferrari right now.
[10:17.880 -> 10:20.000] It's just not they're not on the same page.
[10:20.000 -> 10:23.960] And I and I and I watched the race, you know, this afternoon.
[10:23.960 -> 10:30.440] And and I saw, you know, I could tell that he was very, very frustrated.
[10:30.440 -> 10:37.360] And then I read some articles after he pretty much said, like, we have issues that we don't even know where the issues are.
[10:37.360 -> 10:38.480] Like, we can't figure it out.
[10:38.480 -> 10:39.520] They know where it is.
[10:39.520 -> 10:42.320] They just, they don't want to say anything.
[10:42.320 -> 10:42.800] Of course.
[10:42.800 -> 10:43.480] Yeah, yeah.
[10:43.480 -> 10:46.200] But I mean, like, he's there's it's not only one issue
[10:46.200 -> 10:52.260] There's maybe two three four issues a lot and he says like it just they keep coming up and we don't see an end to it
[10:52.260 -> 10:54.260] So it's like I do feel bad for him
[10:54.300 -> 11:01.300] But then at the same place is like I'm sorry to say this, but they're the four best team right now on the go
[11:01.300 -> 11:09.360] Oh, there I would I mean like if if Alpine didn't crush in Australia, they'll be pretty close right now. Oh, I would. I mean, like if if Alpine didn't crash in Australia, they'll be pretty close right now.
[11:09.360 -> 11:13.360] You know, there I would be worried about Alpine at this point.
[11:13.360 -> 11:16.360] This is the way you're performing.
[11:16.360 -> 11:17.440] Although.
[11:17.440 -> 11:23.600] I'm going to still feel like it's tradition to say that it's pretty sad, though.
[11:23.600 -> 11:27.220] You still had a pretty fast car you had a
[11:27.220 -> 11:33.320] faster car than Williams and you still were stuck behind Logan sergeant a
[11:33.320 -> 11:41.000] rookie in a Williams that has a floor that was built up from Home Depot I know
[11:41.000 -> 11:45.600] lights will like that one but it it's just you got to do better than that
[11:45.840 -> 11:51.240] Come on, like I was supposed to you got to do better than that. I watched the few laps
[11:51.240 -> 11:54.360] I can't remember which lap it was but Leclerc was stuck behind
[11:55.160 -> 11:59.640] Nick DeVrie for about 34 laps with DRS and I'm like
[12:00.880 -> 12:01.920] overtaking
[12:01.920 -> 12:03.000] like I mean
[12:03.000 -> 12:07.920] And the reason why I will I will get him on him about that is because he was in the back for
[12:07.920 -> 12:11.240] the longest time, but he still got pretty close up to...
[12:11.240 -> 12:14.800] Like you should not, in a Ferrari, you should not be back there with the Williams.
[12:14.800 -> 12:15.800] I'm sorry.
[12:15.800 -> 12:19.240] You just can't be back there fighting a Williams and Alfa Tauri.
[12:19.240 -> 12:20.240] Sure.
[12:20.240 -> 12:21.240] Okay.
[12:21.240 -> 12:27.320] If you're near an Alpine or whatever, you're in the top ten. Okay, I get it but
[12:27.800 -> 12:29.800] Not back there. No, I'm sorry
[12:30.760 -> 12:35.920] So I'm gonna I'm gonna slam them both Ferrari and Leclerc on that one. Yeah
[12:36.080 -> 12:42.660] Well, why would while we're here slaying people? What about yeah Paris, I think he's on a loser in this race
[12:42.660 -> 12:44.840] I know that he got up there but I
[12:44.840 -> 12:45.880] Paris, I think he's on a loser in this race. I know that he got up there, but I
[12:49.140 -> 12:54.720] From my point of view. He's in this dominant car I would say as I was as good as Max's and I feel like if Max was starting at 12
[12:55.000 -> 13:00.120] Max would have still won this race and Sergio just cannot keep I'm not sure what it is
[13:00.120 -> 13:05.000] I think that in my category I'll rate him as a loser in this race.
[13:05.000 -> 13:17.000] Totally. And I think from my perspective, he's had a phenomenal first quarter of the season.
[13:17.000 -> 13:30.280] And it's shown. He's a street king, whatever you want to throw a nickname, I don't care. But in reality, I've say this just so many times,
[13:30.280 -> 13:34.800] there's differences between the great drivers on the grid
[13:34.800 -> 13:36.760] versus good drivers.
[13:36.760 -> 13:39.320] Obviously, if you're on the grid,
[13:39.320 -> 13:42.000] you're pretty much a good driver.
[13:42.000 -> 13:47.440] Maybe the bottom three, you can argue, should not be there, but insert two or three, whatever.
[13:47.440 -> 13:52.640] But about 70% of the grid should be good. And then you have the
[13:52.640 -> 13:58.120] top 10% as great. He kept I think it's a little unfair for
[13:58.120 -> 14:00.920] people to put them on a pedal stool and say like he should be
[14:00.920 -> 14:05.360] great, though. This is what you get with Sergio Perez. I mean, this
[14:05.360 -> 14:12.560] is the type of driver he's always been. It's been that way since he was with Force India,
[14:12.560 -> 14:17.720] right? Like these are, I mean, he was, he showed flashes at time, but he also struggled.
[14:17.720 -> 14:22.400] This is what I, the difference between good and great is the consistency factor. He doesn't
[14:22.400 -> 14:29.320] have consistency. And we've seen this countless amount of times with different drivers over the past decade.
[14:29.320 -> 14:36.960] I mean, even longer too, but from when I've been watching in the past, like 10, 12 years,
[14:36.960 -> 14:39.400] that's what you see is just these drivers come and go.
[14:39.400 -> 14:42.560] Yeah, but do you think that he's better than Danny Rick?
[14:42.560 -> 14:46.800] If you put them both, if Danny was in this car right now, would you think that he's better than Danny Rick if you put them both if Danny was in this car right now
[14:46.800 -> 14:53.120] would you think that he'll be better at this point in the season? God that's tough man that's a good
[14:53.120 -> 14:57.360] one. Because because everybody keeps talking in the news oh he's gonna get sacked and Danny's
[14:57.360 -> 15:02.240] gonna take over the seed which could I think that's a little that's a little extreme but if
[15:02.240 -> 15:07.780] he keeps if he keeps having a uh situation like Albion or Gasly when they
[15:07.780 -> 15:10.940] took over the second seed, okay, I see that.
[15:10.940 -> 15:17.940] But you know, it's not like he didn't get into the top five, right?
[15:17.940 -> 15:20.060] He was fifth, right?
[15:20.060 -> 15:28.880] He finished fourth. Fourth. Fourth. So he finished in the top five still, unlike others.
[15:28.880 -> 15:32.720] Where it will be a problem, yes, is
[15:32.720 -> 15:36.600] if we start seeing Mercedes, Aston Martin, whoever,
[15:36.600 -> 15:39.120] is challenging in the Constructor Championship
[15:39.120 -> 15:40.680] in any way.
[15:40.680 -> 15:43.360] Because you're still getting points that way, right?
[15:43.360 -> 15:48.880] Like if there's a challenge there, I believe, yeah, they might start thinking about that.
[15:48.880 -> 15:52.500] And what I say, I don't think Ricardo should be in that seat.
[15:52.500 -> 15:54.180] I think Perez should still stick around.
[15:54.180 -> 15:55.400] I think Perez is fine.
[15:56.320 -> 15:58.980] He just, yeah, I mean all week and he struggled.
[15:58.980 -> 16:01.600] And I can even point to last year too.
[16:02.240 -> 16:04.960] I mean, I don't remember where he finished last year.
[16:06.080 -> 16:12.800] Let me just try to find it very quick. In the Spanish Grand Prix, but I remember when I was doing my research,
[16:14.240 -> 16:19.440] he was consistently throughout FPs and qualifying one, two, three sessions. He wasn't really in the
[16:19.440 -> 16:28.040] top two, he just made it in the top two last year at the end of the race. So a Little little let's pump the brakes on he's gonna get sacked. Yeah
[16:28.840 -> 16:34.640] No, I agree. I think that he should be he will be totally fine continue on this season
[16:34.640 -> 16:37.800] But you just see all these rumors and stuff. So that's why we're sure for sure
[16:37.800 -> 16:45.760] Oh, well talking about losers and this one is gonna go for reegade because he I know he lost a few
[16:45.760 -> 16:51.880] bets but Austin Martin so I watched the race and I did I watched a little bit of
[16:51.880 -> 16:57.360] qualifying and I know that if I had a bet out there I would have lost it and
[16:57.360 -> 17:02.440] I would have been pissed off because I don't understand what the you know like
[17:02.440 -> 17:05.480] I know they were struggling with tires I know they were having issues with that.
[17:05.540 -> 17:06.520] And actually.
[17:07.040 -> 17:10.840] Stro was, was performing well, but I'm looking at it in the long run.
[17:10.840 -> 17:15.480] If you're, if you're having a long, so as a, as a challenger, like really
[17:15.480 -> 17:20.440] at this point of the season, wouldn't you let do a team order and let
[17:20.440 -> 17:24.680] a long, so go in front of stroll to get that extra point or two that at
[17:24.680 -> 17:27.000] the end of the season that point can matter.
[17:27.000 -> 17:28.000] I don't know.
[17:28.000 -> 17:30.280] To me that was a big fail.
[17:30.280 -> 17:31.280] That's to me.
[17:31.280 -> 17:33.320] That's why I rate him as losers in this race.
[17:33.320 -> 17:34.320] I agree.
[17:34.320 -> 17:35.320] I agree.
[17:35.320 -> 17:36.320] I don't know.
[17:36.320 -> 17:37.320] Like I get Alonso.
[17:37.320 -> 17:40.720] No, I can't say I get it.
[17:40.720 -> 17:41.720] I don't.
[17:41.720 -> 17:44.440] It wasn't like Stro was challenging.
[17:44.440 -> 17:49.440] I get why he's he's just trying to maybe make the boss happy.
[17:49.440 -> 17:51.200] Maybe there's things we don't know.
[17:51.200 -> 17:53.840] Right. Like he has something with the strolls right now.
[17:53.840 -> 17:59.120] He's trying to mold land land stroll into a driver.
[17:59.120 -> 18:00.720] Right. There's something there.
[18:00.720 -> 18:04.880] Right. I get it from that standpoint, from a human perspective, I guess you should say.
[18:04.320 -> 18:12.000] something there, right? I get it from that standpoint, from a human perspective, I guess you should say. But from this situation, no way. You are still fighting for points. You're still
[18:12.000 -> 18:18.000] trying to, for both constructor standings and yourself, this could come back and bite you in
[18:18.000 -> 18:25.920] the ass. You got, what happened to the Alonzo of old where he'd be like fighting for it is kind of where I was like where did that
[18:25.920 -> 18:33.120] why is he all of us I love the the softness of Alonso these days it's cool but seriously like
[18:33.120 -> 18:38.080] I mean he was a second behind he he had they should have easily he should have easily he
[18:38.080 -> 18:42.160] should have easily been past him he was he was gonna pass him yeah there was no reason for you
[18:42.160 -> 18:45.560] to keep him uh behind but that's up.
[18:45.560 -> 18:48.520] You know, I know that Renegade was not happy about this.
[18:48.520 -> 18:49.520] Yeah.
[18:49.520 -> 18:54.440] And just to be on that, Aston Martin's problems this weekend.
[18:54.440 -> 18:59.600] I mean, one, Alonso had struggled last year here at Spain.
[18:59.600 -> 19:04.240] Like I know it's supposed to be his home race and all that fun stuff, but I mean, he had
[19:04.240 -> 19:06.040] some big struggles even in the Alpine
[19:06.040 -> 19:07.480] last year here.
[19:07.480 -> 19:10.480] It even carried over this year.
[19:10.480 -> 19:11.920] It could be him.
[19:11.920 -> 19:14.520] Most will put on the car, too.
[19:14.520 -> 19:16.440] It's still a very draggy car.
[19:16.440 -> 19:21.240] It doesn't have good DRS effectiveness as well.
[19:21.240 -> 19:23.240] In those straights, that's where they
[19:23.240 -> 19:24.720] struggle the entire weekend.
[19:24.720 -> 19:29.200] I know. And then obviously, Spain is one of those tracks that is pretty heavy on on tire
[19:29.200 -> 19:33.640] dag and they just had they were one of the few teams that also struggled big time with
[19:33.640 -> 19:41.360] that. So, yeah, definitely, definitely a bad showing from them. Yeah. And I got a couple
[19:41.360 -> 19:45.380] more like, you know know mentions here, you know
[19:48.800 -> 19:55.360] How how do you you you luckily got there in top three and qualifying and then
[19:56.080 -> 19:59.800] You make this rookie mistake that it ruined him. That was it
[19:59.800 -> 20:02.840] They had no other just needed a little bit of patience little
[20:03.240 -> 20:08.000] Patience there if he just did not get on the throttle so early.
[20:08.000 -> 20:12.000] If he just saw that there's no way he's going to creep. Where are you going?
[20:12.000 -> 20:16.000] Where are you going to go?
[20:16.000 -> 20:20.000] Just get a little patience and then you're still there.
[20:20.000 -> 20:22.000] You're still into it. Yeah, absolutely.
[20:22.000 -> 20:26.800] I did not watch any interviews if he had any after the race if he was ever asked
[20:26.800 -> 20:29.260] But I need to go back and look see what he said
[20:29.260 -> 20:35.700] But yeah, I would agree that he had a rookie mistake and the other one a time nickel Hulkenberg
[20:35.700 -> 20:42.080] I mean this guy is always I feel like he's been in q3 to have the races to his year and then
[20:42.560 -> 20:46.000] Race time comes up. He doesn't even finish in the top 12.
[20:47.520 -> 20:49.520] I think that's another Haas...
[20:50.320 -> 20:51.680] It's a Haas issue for sure.
[20:52.240 -> 20:56.240] And I don't know if it's just like, no race pace maybe?
[20:58.080 -> 21:02.160] So we were doing a lot of the data this weekend on race pace, entire day,
[21:02.160 -> 21:05.360] and there was a few that I called out in the discord that
[21:05.360 -> 21:11.920] was pretty alarming to me. One of them was Ocon and then Hulkenberg was another.
[21:13.280 -> 21:18.560] Those were two where I'm like, Jesus, these guys had a big drop off when you can see it in their
[21:18.560 -> 21:28.120] FP practices. There was a big drop off in their race pace simulations. That it's just this is, yeah, I mean,
[21:28.120 -> 21:31.680] you're going to find that with a lot of teams that have.
[21:31.680 -> 21:34.360] Haas, I think, got the fastest speed this weekend, too.
[21:34.360 -> 21:35.360] That's a big reason why.
[21:35.360 -> 21:38.000] They can go and do a hot lap pretty quick.
[21:38.000 -> 21:40.640] It's the Ferrari, same situation.
[21:40.640 -> 21:43.160] They can go do a hot lap, but then they fall off.
[21:43.160 -> 21:44.600] The wheels fall off.
[21:44.600 -> 21:49.280] And that's where the team management should realize this
[21:49.280 -> 21:55.920] like are you trying to pull the whip out yeah are you this is why Mercedes you
[21:55.920 -> 22:01.840] know at times last year and you may see it this year's they spec the car before
[22:01.840 -> 22:07.340] park for me they would rather have it for race settings going into qualifying.
[22:07.340 -> 22:11.900] So they don't have they know like we may not get this top spot, maybe.
[22:12.080 -> 22:14.500] And it's you've got to be very strategic, right?
[22:14.500 -> 22:15.440] Do it at the right track.
[22:15.440 -> 22:16.740] So do it at Monaco.
[22:16.740 -> 22:17.540] Go for it, right?
[22:17.540 -> 22:18.700] Like do what you need.
[22:18.700 -> 22:22.500] But like here where you're going to have a two stopper and all that stuff,
[22:22.540 -> 22:26.640] maybe you should have spec'd your car a little bit more to have better tire dag
[22:27.040 -> 22:31.040] Even if you're gonna take a ding in qualifying, I just don't understand it sometimes. Yeah
[22:32.000 -> 22:36.720] Well enough of the losers. Let's uh, let's talk about some of the winners and of course
[22:37.360 -> 22:41.040] the big winner max, uh his third grand slam
[22:42.080 -> 22:45.000] uh, I mean total domination over the field.
[22:45.000 -> 22:50.160] I think that even if he didn't change those tires at the end,
[22:50.160 -> 22:53.640] he would have easily won by 25 plus seconds.
[22:53.640 -> 22:56.240] No, easy.
[22:56.240 -> 22:58.960] There comes a point where we were betting him
[22:58.960 -> 23:03.640] at minus 300 to win a race.
[23:03.640 -> 23:06.080] Now we started to bet his margin soon.
[23:06.080 -> 23:07.600] The margin is going to be unbearable.
[23:07.600 -> 23:10.000] It's already it's already they were talking about it today.
[23:10.000 -> 23:11.720] They said that it's already getting new.
[23:11.720 -> 23:15.560] The ten second plus is like at already one.
[23:16.600 -> 23:19.720] No, it was like minus one 20 or something to start.
[23:19.720 -> 23:22.320] But it's like, well, do I take that like at this point?
[23:22.600 -> 23:30.980] And I remember last year, last year, last week, the entire when it first opened, I was like, man, do I take this at plus 160 on Bovato?
[23:30.980 -> 23:35.180] It's not the best because you were able to even get it at two to one on a lot of I think
[23:35.180 -> 23:39.760] a lot of people said that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I didn't have access to that. So I was like,
[23:39.760 -> 23:46.900] no, we'll just wait. We'll be patient. And then next thing next thing you know boom got nuked. I Mean, do you see him dropping off?
[23:47.680 -> 23:49.040] anytime soon
[23:49.040 -> 23:51.040] No, I think that if anything
[23:51.960 -> 23:55.320] So I have a perspective on like all the cars and everything
[23:55.320 -> 24:03.360] You're gonna start seeing cars drop off in pace because now you're going to components. Everything is one where yeah, right?
[24:03.360 -> 24:07.000] you're gonna start getting to that period and there...
[24:07.000 -> 24:12.000] It doesn't sound like they were doing a whole lot with upgrades until, I think, now.
[24:12.000 -> 24:16.000] I think they're gonna now start introducing more upgrades, so...
[24:16.000 -> 24:18.000] I mean, it's gonna be hard, man.
[24:18.000 -> 24:23.000] Which maybe we're gonna see some value then when he starts at P20 and...
[24:23.000 -> 24:25.480] I think you're gonna see... Yeah, that's what's going to take.
[24:25.480 -> 24:28.920] Right. Is him to make a mistake at a track certain something like that.
[24:28.920 -> 24:32.920] Right. But when it comes to a power track like you're going to see this weekend,
[24:32.920 -> 24:37.880] that's it's going to be pretty hard to beat him in any of these races.
[24:38.680 -> 24:42.760] I do believe like in tracks like Monaco type,
[24:42.760 -> 24:44.880] you know, where there's slow corners and whatnot.
[24:44.880 -> 24:45.000] Still did great. Different story. Different story. Right. tracks like Monaco type, you know, where there's slow corners and whatnot.
[24:45.000 -> 24:46.560] He still did great, though.
[24:46.560 -> 24:47.960] Different story, different story, right?
[24:47.960 -> 24:54.560] Like now, insert Aston Martin, insert Mercedes, insert those Alpine even.
[24:54.560 -> 24:57.640] Funny how I don't mention Ferrari, but yes, you get what I'm saying.
[24:57.640 -> 25:02.920] Yeah, well, you know, talking about the Mercedes, I think they were probably the biggest winners
[25:02.920 -> 25:08.560] of all, I think, this Oh yeah. You know double podium I think that Russell I don't know who
[25:08.560 -> 25:14.000] won driver of the day but I would have voted for him. I didn't see who won it
[25:14.000 -> 25:18.720] but you know everybody this week I see all the slander on Russell everybody
[25:18.720 -> 25:23.360] talking crap about him and he's this he's a diva he cries about everything
[25:23.360 -> 25:29.680] but I don't get all all of them. Isn't the f1 drivers I don't hate it's not like
[25:29.680 -> 25:33.760] Russell is a winner like he's won championships have you ever watched a
[25:33.760 -> 25:40.400] race or a meta race car driver I mean everyone is gonna be a diva ever it's
[25:40.400 -> 25:47.180] like all these drivers are fighting for one thing one thing
[25:47.880 -> 25:51.800] He won it is so hard and you have to be cocky
[25:51.800 -> 25:53.800] You have to be arrogant
[25:53.880 -> 26:01.200] against all these you've got to be the alpha against all the others because if you don't if you are not then you're gonna get
[26:01.200 -> 26:02.960] whipped around the track
[26:02.960 -> 26:06.240] you're just gonna get just absolutely whipped around because you have to have that mentality when you're gonna get whipped around the track. You're just gonna get just absolutely whipped around
[26:06.240 -> 26:08.560] because you have to have that mentality
[26:08.560 -> 26:11.040] when you're trying to go late breaking
[26:11.040 -> 26:12.320] and trying to hit the apex,
[26:12.320 -> 26:14.720] trying to pass someone offline, whatever it is.
[26:15.280 -> 26:16.560] You gotta have that mentality.
[26:16.560 -> 26:17.920] I mean, I was watching Russell
[26:17.920 -> 26:19.760] when he changed to the softs
[26:19.760 -> 26:22.720] and he was about like eight or nine seconds behind signs.
[26:22.720 -> 26:24.560] And I think like within like four laps,
[26:24.560 -> 26:25.480] he was down to like
[26:26.140 -> 26:28.280] like four side like like
[26:28.880 -> 26:34.720] Maybe three four seconds back from him and he was just pushing pushing. I know them the Mercedes had a great weekend
[26:34.720 -> 26:39.600] I know that they they had no days and they were keeping up. Of course, you couldn't keep up with max
[26:39.720 -> 26:46.320] But still last 12 to 13 laps the Mercedes had the pace with the Sergio's Red Bull
[26:46.560 -> 26:48.560] Yes, he was gaining towards the end
[26:48.720 -> 26:54.880] But I but I I just think that this was a big win for for them with the component upgrades that they were doing
[26:55.280 -> 26:56.400] I think
[26:56.400 -> 27:05.600] Whatever they they they did worked. Maybe it's a track specific. I feel like this this track camera is gonna translate to
[27:12.100 -> 27:13.480] To Montreal. I feel like the money money money, you know, the Montreal is similar to this track, but I could be wrong in my mind
[27:15.480 -> 27:16.280] So, well, yes, absolutely
[27:18.280 -> 27:19.000] Absolutely, the upgrades are working
[27:24.520 -> 27:25.280] But we you know, I don't even think I'm surprised because we saw this last year, right? They start off so
[27:31.060 -> 27:35.460] Poorly in the first half of the season you can see the results. They just kept getting better and better and better They just after upgrade after upgrade. It's just continued. You're seeing it again, right?
[27:35.680 -> 27:42.440] Not saying Red Bull be scared or anything like that. I'm also not saying like it's going to translate every weekend
[27:42.440 -> 27:45.480] I don't know if it will translate, actually, to this weekend.
[27:45.480 -> 27:46.940] It probably will.
[27:46.940 -> 27:49.420] But again, we're going into a track
[27:49.420 -> 27:52.780] where you're going to have a lower downforce setup compared
[27:52.780 -> 27:54.460] to what you normally would.
[27:54.460 -> 27:57.580] Here's a test, right?
[27:57.580 -> 28:00.620] I would just, it's a testament to, again,
[28:00.620 -> 28:03.160] what they focus on, which is how do we
[28:03.160 -> 28:10.240] get the most effective performance in terms of speed and cornering in a car,
[28:10.560 -> 28:17.040] but also not at the expense of our tires. And this is why this
[28:17.040 -> 28:21.640] team excels. They focus on tires. Tires are so critical
[28:21.680 -> 28:27.440] their car doesn't matter what it can do if you can't use the tires.
[28:27.440 -> 28:32.240] Exhibit A Ferrari, but this is exactly why. And this was something I pointed out in the
[28:32.240 -> 28:38.120] data this weekend where I was just stunned. First off, they ran so many laps on those
[28:38.120 -> 28:46.400] stops. And I think I saw 13 or 14 laps or something like that on the end of FP2 practice.
[28:46.400 -> 28:49.280] And it was absolutely consistent in the times
[28:49.280 -> 28:51.880] that they were achieving throughout those sessions.
[28:51.880 -> 28:54.920] Both Hamilton and I was like, wow, this is good.
[28:54.920 -> 28:56.560] And that's what prompted me to say,
[28:56.560 -> 28:58.640] I got to look at Mercedes top six
[28:58.640 -> 29:02.640] and then Bovada gifted me with a three to one.
[29:02.640 -> 29:03.480] I saw it.
[29:03.480 -> 29:08.380] I was like, what? Yeah. Like you're going gonna give me that. All right, I'll take that
[29:08.520 -> 29:14.160] There was a little caution in my my eyes because I did see they also miss price asked to Martin top six
[29:14.160 -> 29:16.160] I did take that
[29:16.280 -> 29:21.620] Miss price plays right and I tried to be careful as well. I wasn't sure about rain. I should probably
[29:22.320 -> 29:27.800] Unloaded but I've been early season. season's been kind of conservative play for me.
[29:27.800 -> 29:31.560] But yeah, it just shows how good they are at that.
[29:31.560 -> 29:36.920] And a little disclaimer, we are both Mercedes guys, so just FYI.
[29:36.920 -> 29:40.280] And also to talk a little crap here,
[29:40.280 -> 29:42.360] if you're watching this on YouTube,
[29:42.360 -> 29:44.080] this is the closest the Ferrari will
[29:44.080 -> 29:46.320] get to the podium with Lewis holding the Ferrari
[29:46.320 -> 29:49.240] champion bottle.
[29:49.240 -> 29:50.400] Oh, I just noticed that.
[29:50.400 -> 29:50.960] Oh, jeez.
[29:50.960 -> 29:52.200] All jokes, guys.
[29:52.200 -> 29:53.960] All jokes.
[29:53.960 -> 29:56.600] We had a pretty healthy conversation,
[29:56.600 -> 29:58.760] I will say, in the Discord today.
[29:58.760 -> 30:02.280] I felt like I was, well, Jinx was there.
[30:02.280 -> 30:10.880] He was probably having a good chuckle. But we you know, just your typical Lewis Hamilton bash, Mercedes bash.
[30:10.880 -> 30:12.280] And I'm like, here we go.
[30:12.280 -> 30:13.240] I have to do this.
[30:13.240 -> 30:14.240] All right, here we go.
[30:14.240 -> 30:15.040] Here we go.
[30:15.040 -> 30:17.360] Well, I will leave you with this.
[30:17.360 -> 30:19.880] Yeah, you keep he's in the record books.
[30:19.880 -> 30:21.240] You can't take that away.
[30:21.240 -> 30:21.600] That's right.
[30:21.600 -> 30:23.720] So everyone can cry about it.
[30:23.720 -> 30:25.520] Yeah. And the last few, I would say, like winners for this race, you can't take that away. So everyone can cry about it.
[30:29.920 -> 30:33.200] And the last few, I would say like winners for this race, like a couple like mentioned is Guan Yu.
[30:33.200 -> 30:35.040] He finished in P9.
[30:35.040 -> 30:38.280] He has been getting better and better in the alpha.
[30:38.280 -> 30:40.760] He has been totally dominating Bottas.
[30:40.760 -> 30:42.320] I feel like, I'm sorry, Chris,
[30:42.320 -> 30:44.200] I know that Bottas is your man,
[30:44.200 -> 30:50.240] but what he did to try he was he was fighting for those points the whole race
[30:50.240 -> 30:55.000] He was in PA p9 p10 p11. He just kept going back and forth
[30:55.400 -> 31:01.080] I I didn't follow much of him over the weekend, but I know that he started at p13
[31:01.800 -> 31:05.000] Or 14 and he finishing the points.
[31:05.320 -> 31:06.520] I was impressed.
[31:06.520 -> 31:08.720] I think that there's a lot of promise.
[31:08.720 -> 31:09.600] I do like him.
[31:09.600 -> 31:11.820] I think that he's a decent driver.
[31:11.820 -> 31:14.560] So that's my take on that one.
[31:14.560 -> 31:17.020] I have a love hate for that guy right now
[31:17.020 -> 31:20.640] because the early season I was, yeah, I was on him.
[31:20.640 -> 31:23.640] I think I'm O and three backing him,
[31:24.960 -> 31:29.440] but whether it's him, the team, definitely
[31:29.440 -> 31:37.200] a lot is the team. But what a performance. I mean, he had a really good, good start coming
[31:37.200 -> 31:44.760] out out of the gates and just kept climbing up the field. And he just he had a solid race.
[31:44.760 -> 31:46.580] And funny enough, that picture right there,
[31:46.580 -> 31:48.840] I think you see the Alpha Atari in there.
[31:49.340 -> 31:51.440] That was you keep him behind the whole time.
[31:53.180 -> 31:54.920] I don't want to go too deep into that.
[31:54.920 -> 31:57.080] I think that was a very questionable
[31:57.920 -> 32:00.920] five second penalty that was given, but I'm not going to complain
[32:00.920 -> 32:05.220] because it leads into the Alpine double points, because without
[32:05.220 -> 32:09.640] that, we would have never hit that double points, which is basically a default bet for
[32:09.640 -> 32:15.140] me every week. It seems like at this since last year. But yeah, Joe, just going back
[32:15.140 -> 32:21.020] to Joe, it was really just a phenomenal race. I do like what he can do. I don't think Alfa
[32:21.020 -> 32:25.680] Romeo is doing him any favors with the way the car is set up.
[32:25.680 -> 32:29.720] I was actually surprised he got into P9 to be honest with you and it pisses me off because
[32:29.720 -> 32:34.640] I've backed that guy so many times and I wanted to back him but I said no, that's it, after
[32:34.640 -> 32:36.160] three times, that's it, you're in jail.
[32:36.160 -> 32:39.360] I'm not betting you until proven otherwise.
[32:39.360 -> 32:40.360] Yeah.
[32:40.360 -> 32:45.160] No, no, that's why when I was watching the race I watched, you know, like I was you know
[32:45.160 -> 32:49.440] like follow him and they were showing him a couple times battling with Yuki and and
[32:49.960 -> 32:52.280] You know, it was just like he showed maturity
[32:53.120 -> 33:00.400] Patience and you know to me in this car to finishing points starting from four or five spots
[33:01.400 -> 33:07.440] Below is impressive. So I mean you got in the top you got in the top 10 like no one expected
[33:07.440 -> 33:14.800] you to be there no I mean we expected you to be like p12 at the best you know yeah and yeah and
[33:14.800 -> 33:19.440] you said thanks to the points I'll be in double points like you said it's an automatic bet used
[33:19.440 -> 33:25.840] to be for me now I take it with caution. I didn't take it this week.
[33:25.840 -> 33:32.440] This week, it opened at, I think it was like minus 150 odd.
[33:32.440 -> 33:35.240] So it juiced up big time.
[33:35.240 -> 33:37.040] It was like, ooh, no.
[33:37.040 -> 33:38.880] And I was getting it at plus odds last week.
[33:38.880 -> 33:40.800] It was like plus 110.
[33:40.800 -> 33:43.560] 110, yeah, something like that.
[33:43.560 -> 33:45.520] But yeah, here we are this week
[33:46.280 -> 33:53.200] They've ghastly fell out of the top 10 which gave me the opportunity to say oh nice
[33:53.200 -> 33:55.360] I can get it basically at even odds
[33:56.640 -> 33:58.640] Yeah, of course, I'm gonna take that
[33:58.760 -> 34:04.040] You know, they were they're definitely gonna climb up to I mean alpines doing a pretty good job
[34:04.040 -> 34:10.240] I I've always I've been pretty vocal about it. I do like Atmar. I think he's a pretty good
[34:11.840 -> 34:16.320] director over there. I just... I just hope that, yeah, he'll keep it up.
[34:17.040 -> 34:25.760] Nice. Well, I want to ask you about... I want you to give me your honest rating on this race from 1 to 10.
[34:25.760 -> 34:32.040] 10 being an amazing race, 1 being horrible. What do you rate this race? I know
[34:32.040 -> 34:37.960] with the new layout, do you like it? How do you rate it? I actually, I would
[34:37.960 -> 34:49.600] rate it 7 out of 10. I was entertained for sure. I mean, again, I go back to if you're not focused on Max,
[34:49.600 -> 34:53.520] which most casual fans will be, and I don't blame you because
[34:53.520 -> 34:54.000] you do.
[34:54.000 -> 34:55.360] You're focused on a winner.
[34:55.360 -> 34:56.200] Of course.
[34:56.200 -> 34:56.700] Yeah.
[34:56.720 -> 35:00.480] I mean, there was a lot of action when you have multiple
[35:00.480 -> 35:01.080] pit stops.
[35:01.080 -> 35:02.080] It makes it so much.
[35:02.080 -> 35:06.940] It makes it much more fun to see what could potentially happen.
[35:06.940 -> 35:09.440] What a team is going to do. I totally agree. I like that.
[35:09.440 -> 35:15.520] Yeah, like, you know, there's one that should instantly trigger to you to say like, yeah,
[35:15.520 -> 35:19.680] tires should fall off fairly quick because if you've got to do two stops, right?
[35:19.680 -> 35:20.680] Yeah.
[35:20.680 -> 35:28.840] And then, so you have a strategy there that plays in hand. And I just think you saw a lot of pretty good racing.
[35:28.840 -> 35:31.340] You saw like passing lots of overtakes.
[35:31.340 -> 35:33.820] Lots. Yeah, there was there was some pretty good.
[35:33.820 -> 35:37.560] There was a lot of fight in the midfield, even like lower.
[35:37.920 -> 35:40.160] So, yeah, I totally agree.
[35:40.160 -> 35:43.600] And then the layout, I was very skeptical.
[35:47.000 -> 35:49.320] As I've driven that on the sim many times,
[35:49.320 -> 35:51.080] and I actually absolutely hate that track.
[35:51.080 -> 35:51.960] Oh, me too.
[35:51.960 -> 35:52.800] I hate it.
[35:52.800 -> 35:57.840] It's probably one of the ones I just, not just F1 2022
[35:57.840 -> 36:02.360] or whatever, I mean, all the even GT series, ACC, all those.
[36:02.360 -> 36:08.400] I hate it because there's, in Sector 3, which they changed.
[36:08.400 -> 36:12.200] In 2021, they changed it from this tight kind of hairpin
[36:12.200 -> 36:14.200] into the last turn.
[36:14.200 -> 36:18.440] And then you got the chicane and everything like that.
[36:18.440 -> 36:21.000] And then they removed that chicane and just had this.
[36:21.000 -> 36:23.580] And I think that was actually pretty interesting
[36:23.580 -> 36:25.500] from an F1 car because it did make them go faster and made had this. And I think that was actually pretty interesting from an F1 car
[36:25.500 -> 36:28.240] because it did make them go faster and made them.
[36:28.380 -> 36:30.240] Yeah. Oh, yeah. 100%.
[36:30.240 -> 36:34.280] Yeah. So I I let's see it another year, I guess.
[36:34.280 -> 36:36.700] Well, I will. I will accept it for what it is.
[36:38.080 -> 36:40.380] But yeah, I thought it was a seven out of 10.
[36:40.380 -> 36:41.940] I thought it was pretty entertaining.
[36:41.940 -> 36:47.960] I was watching religiously like what's happening in the midfield constantly there was always a battle I
[36:47.960 -> 36:52.280] totally I'll give it yeah probably the same rating and I did like it and like
[36:52.280 -> 36:58.480] you I hate that sector 3 I always lose my and always always lose it at the very
[36:58.480 -> 37:03.680] end that last quarter the last turn before that hairpin as we call it
[37:03.680 -> 37:06.320] always I hated it and I still hate it i try to
[37:06.320 -> 37:13.440] skip that race if i can uh but uh oh yeah talking about new tracks to shift gears a little bit uh
[37:13.440 -> 37:20.000] this weekend um you know like we mentioned we went to the indy car in detroit you know i live in
[37:20.000 -> 37:28.400] detroit uh our old chris integrity bats came from Florida. He flew in, met his
[37:28.400 -> 37:34.440] buddy from the internet, we met, he stayed here for the weekend, had a lot of fun.
[37:34.440 -> 37:39.080] I got to tell you this guys, this was my first IndyCar race, never been to one.
[37:39.080 -> 37:44.400] Don't really know much about it. People ask me, hey if you're into F1, why
[37:44.400 -> 37:49.640] aren't you into IndyCar? I just never, I never was. I grew up in Europe, I never
[37:49.640 -> 37:55.320] watched IndyCar. It was my first race, I had a lot of fun. On Saturday, the event
[37:55.320 -> 38:01.280] had DJs from all around, our own Steve Aoki was there, we had a lot of fun on
[38:01.280 -> 38:07.520] Hard Plaza. I would tell you this, you this, if you're a traveling fan,
[38:07.520 -> 38:11.480] or even if you're a fan of water racing,
[38:11.480 -> 38:14.640] you could take your kids there to watch it for free.
[38:15.640 -> 38:18.600] I mean, I don't wanna slander the sponsors
[38:18.600 -> 38:20.860] and everybody of IndyCar, but honestly,
[38:20.860 -> 38:23.540] this track gives you the ability to watch the race
[38:23.540 -> 38:24.840] at so many spots.
[38:24.840 -> 38:30.320] You are right on the track, and you can watch it for free at about 10 to 20 different spots
[38:30.320 -> 38:33.520] around the whole track.
[38:33.520 -> 38:42.280] We did have a rooftop access, which, you know, lots of food options, drinks, great view of
[38:42.280 -> 38:46.320] the main street and then there was the there was a turn three four and
[38:46.320 -> 38:52.080] five were right in front of us so we saw a lot of action and then they had these big lounges where
[38:52.080 -> 38:57.840] you could watch it on the tv so if you're from the Detroit area or from any neighboring state
[38:57.840 -> 39:05.000] or anywhere and you love IndyCar highly recommended very affordable for for the normal fan.
[39:05.080 -> 39:08.280] And I gotta say, you know, like we actually,
[39:08.280 -> 39:12.880] we also met a Discord member, Jim Jim Sauce.
[39:12.880 -> 39:14.480] He also is from Detroit.
[39:14.480 -> 39:17.320] And I gotta tell you this, we met the guy,
[39:17.320 -> 39:19.640] and if you're watching this on YouTube again,
[39:19.640 -> 39:20.800] I'll show a graphic.
[39:20.800 -> 39:22.080] I don't have a picture of him,
[39:22.080 -> 39:24.840] but I'll show you what I think we saw.
[39:24.840 -> 39:30.000] He said in the discord guys look for a tall Polish guy with a cap on and
[39:30.000 -> 39:34.240] there was a lot of people there I was standing in line with Chris getting a
[39:34.240 -> 39:41.160] beer and you cannot miss this guy he did not over exaggerate he was tall me is
[39:41.160 -> 39:47.740] Yuki and he is Krista Porzingis. This guy was so tall but super nice guy.
[39:47.740 -> 39:53.580] Jim was very, you know, very nice. We talked a little bit about the F1.
[39:53.580 -> 39:58.120] We talked about IndyCar. Just, you know, like it was amazing to meet
[39:58.120 -> 40:01.820] somebody from the Discord, you know. We're just a bunch of internet dudes and we
[40:01.820 -> 40:05.360] met in person. I hope to see some more fans from the Discord
[40:05.360 -> 40:08.720] at anywhere else around the world. So that's my IndyCar.
[40:08.720 -> 40:13.600] Sounds like a lot of fun. Yeah, and I mean, so you said this was your first time.
[40:14.480 -> 40:15.520] IndyCar, yes.
[40:15.520 -> 40:20.800] Yeah, I like, I don't know how many races you actually watched, but what was,
[40:20.800 -> 40:28.400] what did you think of the actual race product itself? Well, me being here and I saw the track and I was like,
[40:28.400 -> 40:30.600] where are these cars going to pass each other?
[40:30.600 -> 40:34.360] Like it is like honestly, I saw the I've walked on this track.
[40:34.360 -> 40:38.360] I've walked on these streets and and there was a lot of overtakes.
[40:38.360 -> 40:40.360] We saw a lot of them.
[40:40.360 -> 40:44.200] Chris said, Nick, get ready to see a lot of crashes here.
[40:44.200 -> 40:45.120] It's going to be a lot. And here. It's gonna be a lot.
[40:45.120 -> 40:47.120] Yeah, we've been talking about that.
[40:47.120 -> 40:48.840] Within the first minute and a half,
[40:48.840 -> 40:52.040] I think that his boy, Kalem, spun out or hit something.
[40:52.040 -> 40:54.120] I think he ran over something,
[40:54.120 -> 40:56.480] but it was like literally the first lap.
[40:58.200 -> 41:00.680] So yeah, it was, but it was a lot of fun.
[41:00.680 -> 41:03.320] And you know, like we, you know,
[41:03.320 -> 41:04.840] we walked through these bridges
[41:04.840 -> 41:05.160] to get
[41:05.160 -> 41:10.080] through our little area and then we were right above the actual track and you
[41:10.080 -> 41:14.560] could feel the power of the cars when they come by it if you're a racing fan
[41:14.560 -> 41:19.480] it feels amazing so it was it was it was great that it was so close to home and I
[41:19.480 -> 41:25.800] definitely recommend it and I really enjoyed enjoyed it. I'm really jealous
[41:26.440 -> 41:30.280] You know, it's in your backyard. You get the street circuit
[41:31.200 -> 41:35.920] It seemed like a good a really fun time. Yes. I was skeptical
[41:35.920 -> 41:39.520] I I did I kind of wished it was still at Belle Island
[41:39.520 -> 41:47.100] I do kind of miss that track that because for them from the race perspective. It definitely was a lot different
[41:47.880 -> 41:51.240] There were like I want to say like seven yellow flags
[41:51.920 -> 41:57.320] Or a lot of wrecks. Yeah, well, I heard that there's a the reason why it's not there
[41:57.880 -> 42:00.080] first of the person who owned Belle Isle
[42:00.600 -> 42:05.280] Gave it to the state and they wanted to turn it into a national park there, which
[42:05.280 -> 42:09.980] is nice, you know, but I heard some other rumors that there could be something happening
[42:09.980 -> 42:16.520] in 2028 in Detroit. I'm not going to say what it is. I heard it from a reliable source.
[42:16.520 -> 42:28.320] So 2028 Elon Musk is taking over Detroit. No, I wish he was buying it. He's buying it all. There's a higher ranked race possibly coming here to Detroit.
[42:29.480 -> 42:32.320] In 2020. So that's all I got to say.
[42:33.960 -> 42:39.240] We'll talk offline. I will tell you. Yeah. So, um, well, yeah, but that's awesome.
[42:39.240 -> 42:42.520] That you guys had a good time. Yes. Seemed like a great time.
[42:42.560 -> 42:45.840] I sounded like you enjoyed the race itself
[42:45.840 -> 42:53.680] to all. And by the way, just if you've never been to an IndyCar, what you just said, I mean,
[42:53.680 -> 42:59.840] motorsports go to one. I don't care what it is. Go experience it. If you've never been to an F1
[42:59.840 -> 43:06.720] race, go experience an IndyCar race, go experience an IMSA race, go to your local track and just watch.
[43:06.720 -> 43:07.520] It is fun.
[43:07.520 -> 43:09.320] It is an experience for the weekend.
[43:09.320 -> 43:10.000] That's amazing.
[43:10.000 -> 43:11.800] They make it for.
[43:11.800 -> 43:13.680] But yes, just very quickly on the IndyCar,
[43:13.680 -> 43:16.680] because I do want to throw out something.
[43:16.680 -> 43:20.840] Chris and I are basically, we're the IndyCar guys in our F1
[43:20.840 -> 43:22.600] Money Game Discord.
[43:22.600 -> 43:27.120] So give us a holler if you guys are into IndyCar.
[43:27.120 -> 43:29.120] We are just on it this season.
[43:29.120 -> 43:30.000] We're on fire.
[43:30.000 -> 43:31.080] We are talking it.
[43:31.080 -> 43:35.000] I mean, hell, and a track that was just full of unknowns.
[43:35.000 -> 43:38.200] I picked out three, four matchups,
[43:38.200 -> 43:40.720] head to head matchups and three out of four hits.
[43:40.720 -> 43:47.100] So I mean, we're just right now rolling in IndyCar, so come into the Discord if you
[43:47.100 -> 43:49.220] want IndyCar content, we have that for you.
[43:49.220 -> 43:54.420] Yeah, and talking about, you know, being so close to Canada, you know, we could talk a
[43:54.420 -> 44:02.220] little bit about the Canada GP and it's also close, I mean, closer to me than you, but
[44:02.220 -> 44:07.340] Chris said I've never been so close to a border in my life that I, he literally like looked at us like,
[44:07.340 -> 44:09.180] Nick, I could swim across there.
[44:09.180 -> 44:12.140] Like it was like, hey, wave to the Canadians.
[44:12.140 -> 44:13.260] Yeah.
[44:13.260 -> 44:18.060] So, but Canada GP, excited about it?
[44:18.060 -> 44:22.500] Any input, any kind of quick tips, anything you can see?
[44:22.500 -> 44:26.720] Honestly, I know the oil, so this one, it should be a powertrack.
[44:27.760 -> 44:34.320] You know, there's, I guess, I mean, you might be able to compare some of it to a little bit of
[44:34.320 -> 44:40.480] Aussie nowadays. But right now, powertrack, I mean, Red Bull's definitely got the,
[44:41.200 -> 44:46.620] it's going to be your favorite. I'd be very interested to see Aston Martin.
[44:47.120 -> 44:50.880] Yeah. Aston Martin and what they will be able to bring to this this race.
[44:51.300 -> 44:55.340] You would one thing I will say, tire deck should be lower
[44:55.520 -> 44:58.220] at Canada in the Canadian GP.
[44:58.680 -> 45:01.840] The surface is pretty it's it's one.
[45:01.900 -> 45:05.640] It's got one of the lowest micro macro surfaces
[45:05.640 -> 45:06.600] out of all the surfaces.
[45:06.600 -> 45:09.320] So tire deck shouldn't be a huge issue,
[45:09.320 -> 45:11.240] but let's see what Pirelli is going to throw at us
[45:11.240 -> 45:13.200] with their compounds.
[45:13.200 -> 45:18.880] But again, I would stay away from maybe potentially
[45:18.880 -> 45:20.280] like a McLaren.
[45:20.280 -> 45:24.160] I would be very cautious of them because in a type of track
[45:24.160 -> 45:26.240] like this where it's gonna be draggy
[45:26.520 -> 45:30.260] They got this barn door for a freaking wing in the back
[45:31.040 -> 45:34.760] And that's where I'm interested to see a Samaritan because they usually have pretty bad
[45:35.360 -> 45:43.240] Dr. Drs effectiveness to here Haas might be interesting here. Well, you had him Haas double q3
[45:43.240 -> 45:44.640] There you go
[45:44.640 -> 45:47.120] Haas is gonna definitely. There you go. Haas is going to definitely probably excel
[45:47.120 -> 45:53.040] definitely in qualifying. Let's just at least go there first. And I could see Hulkenberg easily
[45:54.080 -> 46:01.040] Magnuson even just really showing up. And they started five and six with Mick last year and Kevin.
[46:01.040 -> 46:05.520] Yeah. And and this is pretty much, I would say, the same car as last year. Yeah. And this is pretty much I would say the same car as last year.
[46:05.520 -> 46:09.360] And basically, basically, and that's just because of the way it's set up. You know,
[46:09.360 -> 46:16.320] they have the car set up and it's fast. It can it's got really good DRS effectiveness. It's one of
[46:16.320 -> 46:22.240] probably one of the top teams with that. So look for them, maybe Williams and keep an eye on them.
[46:22.240 -> 46:25.160] You also mentioned, you know, Alonso.
[46:25.160 -> 46:28.920] And there was one thing that I looked at is like, you know, if you're going to bet
[46:28.920 -> 46:32.480] qualifying and you already mentioned the Red Bull is still going to continue to
[46:32.480 -> 46:34.040] dominate. It is a power track.
[46:34.280 -> 46:41.320] And I was going to say, Alonso got P2 here last year in qualifying and he was in the
[46:41.320 -> 46:44.320] Alpine. And I feel like this Austin Martin is better than the Alpine.
[46:44.320 -> 46:50.160] So if you're looking for any one, two markets out there and qualifying, that could be a good bet,
[46:50.160 -> 46:56.240] depending on the odds, of course. So obviously, I've even forgot what I had for lunch yesterday.
[46:56.240 -> 47:03.040] But I don't recall if last year that was one of the sessions was raining. It was raining. Yes. Yep.
[47:03.040 -> 47:06.400] Okay, so that was the one. So definitely, we're still always
[47:06.400 -> 47:07.800] going to pay attention to weather.
[47:07.800 -> 47:08.760] Yeah, of course, yeah.
[47:08.760 -> 47:12.840] But yeah, that's something to keep in mind with that one.
[47:12.840 -> 47:15.960] But yes, this should be hopefully fun.
[47:15.960 -> 47:17.840] We'll see.
[47:17.840 -> 47:22.160] But other than that, I would say to all our users, listeners,
[47:22.160 -> 47:25.240] anywhere, coming to the Discord, we'll be active.
[47:25.240 -> 47:31.800] Give me the week to really acclimate to what we expect, maybe potentially for FPs.
[47:31.800 -> 47:35.680] I don't think odds will start dropping until the weekend, though.
[47:35.680 -> 47:39.680] We'll definitely be scouring the internet for it.
[47:39.680 -> 47:47.400] Yeah, and one last thing before we close doors here is this coming up weekend we're planning on
[47:47.400 -> 47:58.800] doing another sim race on F1 22 Canada GP so get in the discord connect with Tigrity
[47:58.800 -> 48:07.040] and then he will get you linked in the group and then let's have some fun racing right so oh yeah i gotta i gotta
[48:07.040 -> 48:13.520] get on that man i gotta practice i gotta get some laps in jesus yeah because i'm gonna be out of town
[48:13.520 -> 48:19.760] this entire week so i gotta i gotta i gotta make sure i get in the top five there you go there's
[48:19.760 -> 48:25.840] some pretty good guys in this yes by the way we had, we had 20. We had close to 20. I think we had 19
[48:25.840 -> 48:31.760] for last year. 19. And then like I think only 14 showed up, I think it was. And we had a couple
[48:31.760 -> 48:37.600] with issues with Internet issues. So so it was we had we had about we had 20 sign up and some
[48:37.600 -> 48:43.840] couldn't make it at the last second, but really good time. A lot of fun. And there's again,
[48:43.840 -> 48:46.040] some really there's some good guys out there
[48:46.040 -> 48:50.940] There's some max for stappins, but don't be don't be alarmed. It's okay. We could crush him. Oh
[48:51.800 -> 48:54.860] yeah, all right, man, well it was good chatting as always and
[48:55.880 -> 49:04.080] We will do I think just look out for a betting preview show next week some sometime for the Canada GP
[49:04.640 -> 49:06.640] Yeah, all right, man
[49:07.040 -> 49:09.040] well
[49:02.580 -> 49:08.660] betting preview show next week some sometime for the Canada GP yeah all right man

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