F1 Money Gang USGP Early Preview Ep.7

Quick recap of Japanese GP and early USGP Preview with a sprinkle of 2023 futures.  Underdog Fantasy Promo Code F1MONEYGANG and Free Discord: http://discord.gg/nT4wb3ayHU

# Formula One Money Gang Podcast Episode Summary: Japanese GP Recap, USGP Preview, and 2023 Futures

## Japanese Grand Prix Recap

- Max Verstappen secured the 2022 Drivers' Championship title.
- The race was heavily impacted by rain, leading to a delayed start and a red flag period.
- Several drivers made strategic errors due to the unpredictable weather conditions.
- Despite the challenging circumstances, some drivers managed to capitalize on the chaos and secure impressive results.

## US Grand Prix Preview

- The upcoming US Grand Prix is set to take place in Austin, Texas.
- The Circuit of the Americas is known for its challenging layout, featuring a mix of high-speed straights and technical corners.
- The weather forecast for the race weekend is expected to be dry, providing more stable conditions for the drivers.
- Odds and betting lines for the race are currently available, with Max Verstappen favored to win.
- Key factors to consider when placing bets include driver performance, team strategies, and potential weather changes.

## 2023 Futures Bets

- Early odds for the 2023 Formula One season are already available.
- Max Verstappen is the clear favorite to win the Drivers' Championship again, with Lewis Hamilton and Charles Leclerc as potential challengers.
- Mercedes and Red Bull are expected to remain the top teams, with Ferrari aiming to bounce back from a disappointing 2022 campaign.
- Other teams to watch include Alpine, McLaren, and Aston Martin, who could potentially challenge for podium finishes.
- Betting on futures markets can offer long-term value, but it also carries a higher level of risk.

## Notable Insights and Controversies

- The reliability of the new generation of Formula One cars has improved in recent races, reducing the number of retirements.
- The budget cap regulations have had a significant impact on team spending, leading to more competitive racing throughout the field.
- The dominance of Red Bull and Max Verstappen has sparked discussions about the need for rule changes to promote closer competition.
- The future of the sport is being shaped by ongoing discussions about sustainability, cost control, and the introduction of new technologies.


## Japanese Grand Prix Recap:

- Max Verstappen's dominance continued as he secured another victory, extending his lead in the Drivers' Championship.
- Sergio Perez finished second, followed by Charles Leclerc in third place.
- Lewis Hamilton and George Russell finished fourth and fifth respectively, showcasing Mercedes' improved performance.

## US Grand Prix Preview:

- The upcoming race at the Circuit of the Americas is expected to be an exciting battle between Red Bull and Ferrari.
- Mercedes is aiming for a strong finish to the season and will be looking to capitalize on any mistakes made by the frontrunners.
- The race could potentially decide the outcome of the Constructors' Championship.

## 2023 Season Outlook:

- Mercedes' struggles throughout the 2022 season have raised questions about their competitiveness in the upcoming year.
- Ferrari has shown flashes of brilliance but needs to improve their consistency and reliability.
- Red Bull remains the team to beat, with Max Verstappen as the favorite to retain his Drivers' Championship title.

## Key Points and Insights:

- Mercedes faces an uphill battle to catch up to Red Bull and Ferrari in 2023.
- Ferrari's strength lies in their ability to develop their car, but their on-track performance needs improvement.
- Red Bull's success is attributed to their aggressive approach and their ability to capitalize on Mercedes' mistakes.
- The second drivers for Red Bull and Ferrari, Sergio Perez and Carlos Sainz, have made more mistakes compared to their teammates.
- Mercedes' consistency and the reliability of their drivers, Lewis Hamilton and George Russell, could be key factors in their potential resurgence.

## Overall Takeaway:

The 2023 Formula One season promises to be an exciting battle between Red Bull, Ferrari, and Mercedes. While Mercedes faces challenges in catching up, their determination and the talent of their drivers could lead to a surprise resurgence. The upcoming US Grand Prix is a crucial race that could potentially decide the outcome of the Constructors' Championship.

[00:00.000 -> 00:09.800] And we're back, the F1 Money Gang podcast here for the US Grand Prix Preview Show. I
[00:09.800 -> 00:17.040] know that we have about a week until we get to the actual US GP, but of course, we're
[00:17.040 -> 00:21.040] going to be here. We're going to give you some content and to kick things off, we'll
[00:21.040 -> 00:25.600] probably go in with a little recap, maybe talk about the disaster that
[00:25.600 -> 00:32.240] was the Japanese GP, lots of activity that was happening all weekend. I don't know about you
[00:32.240 -> 00:39.680] guys. I kind of got bit on that Sunday with my bets, made some few key mistakes, which we can
[00:39.680 -> 00:45.760] talk about. And then after that, we can talk about the USGP. I know that there's some odds out there,
[00:46.480 -> 00:52.240] as well as let's talk some futures. I think there's some future odds. But first, I guess
[00:52.240 -> 01:00.640] I'll say it as painful as it is for me to say, congrats to Max Verstappen. You won,
[01:01.520 -> 01:06.800] and that's all I'm going to give him. So yeah, we will kick things off.
[01:06.800 -> 01:14.480] We got Dolcetto, we got Lights Out, and we got our man, Jinx, the Eugene.
[01:14.480 -> 01:16.320] So welcome, fellas. How are you feeling?
[01:20.160 -> 01:22.480] All right, everything's good, man. Everything's good.
[01:22.480 -> 01:29.200] It was a great 4am race for me since I was the only one that probably stayed up to watch it
[01:30.200 -> 01:36.800] Probably snooze off a couple of times in between the red flag and the actual race restart
[01:37.480 -> 01:41.000] But it was a good race. I and I had a good bedding weekend. I
[01:41.800 -> 01:46.160] Went one and one on the pod. I had the over 17 and a half drivers
[01:46.160 -> 01:51.680] classified which I was so worried about but that hit and then of course the
[01:51.680 -> 01:56.480] first lap no retirement that should have never even race should have never even
[01:56.480 -> 02:03.840] started as normal you know so and then I had another couple I had two more pick I
[02:03.840 -> 02:06.620] had actually three more picks on the discord you know like you know me I had another couple I had two more pick I had actually three more picks on the discord
[02:07.000 -> 02:10.480] You know like, you know me I had the Alpine double points
[02:11.360 -> 02:17.540] That cashed in I had a couple head-to-heads that there was a lot of sweat there at the end with
[02:18.840 -> 02:26.720] Both us and and one you they had I had bought us to beat him and it was such a sweat at the end,
[02:26.720 -> 02:33.680] you know, because both had the old tires and he was just losing pace and but they all won.
[02:33.680 -> 02:38.360] So when four and one on the weekend, so I was kind of happy and it was all good.
[02:38.360 -> 02:44.400] Yeah, I kind of want to just touch very quickly on that one with the first first lap retirement
[02:44.400 -> 02:45.340] being zero.
[02:45.900 -> 02:48.520] That's where I made my mistake actually.
[02:48.520 -> 02:53.540] And typically what I like to do is when there's news flashing,
[02:53.580 -> 02:58.040] like minutes before the race, you want to strike on some odds that, you
[02:58.040 -> 03:00.020] know, you can really get the advantage.
[03:00.580 -> 03:04.000] My mistake was, was believing that they were actually going to start
[03:04.000 -> 03:06.000] the race with a safety car.
[03:06.000 -> 03:10.000] Kind of like they said that they said it, they were going to do it.
[03:10.000 -> 03:19.000] I was actually really shocked that they were all on intermediates to start off with after they were claiming there. It was just there were a lot of wet spots.
[03:19.000 -> 03:25.520] I was actually pretty shocked. So, yeah, regrets really did kick in pretty fast.
[03:25.520 -> 03:28.480] But you know what?
[03:28.480 -> 03:31.480] In hindsight, everything sucks at that time.
[03:31.480 -> 03:34.220] But when you think back to it, I still would do it every time.
[03:34.220 -> 03:36.620] Maybe I shouldn't have gone overboard.
[03:36.620 -> 03:39.720] I did have a long night of partying that night.
[03:39.720 -> 03:44.480] So maybe the alcohol talked to me a little bit more to push more units.
[03:44.480 -> 03:46.560] But yeah, I was pretty
[03:46.560 -> 03:51.200] disappointed that that happened, but I would do it every time. I would say that. So yeah.
[03:51.200 -> 03:52.720] Yeah. I mean, it is a good bet.
[03:54.080 -> 03:57.200] Oh yeah. And especially in that situation, right? Like this is what we're supposed to do
[03:58.720 -> 04:06.020] is maximize in situations like this. And again, there's gonna be a lot of situations in F1 where something happens.
[04:06.020 -> 04:09.540] And another example was Gasly starting
[04:09.540 -> 04:11.060] at the back of the grid.
[04:11.060 -> 04:12.660] I mean, I just added on.
[04:12.660 -> 04:15.700] Yeah, so I just added on to my Yuki over Gasly,
[04:15.700 -> 04:17.740] but the books didn't catch that.
[04:17.740 -> 04:20.060] Obviously the timing was middle of the night,
[04:20.060 -> 04:23.520] but still, you could still capitalize on that stuff.
[04:23.520 -> 04:27.180] So, but yeah, what about Jinx?
[04:27.180 -> 04:28.020] What about you?
[04:28.020 -> 04:29.720] What are your thoughts on this man?
[04:31.040 -> 04:35.200] Not this one specifically, but the race, how did you feel?
[04:35.200 -> 04:38.080] I mean, it was less painful than Singapore.
[04:38.080 -> 04:39.680] So, I mean, that's a positive.
[04:40.880 -> 04:44.720] I mean, we started out with Russell top six in practice
[04:44.720 -> 04:46.500] and he had car issues, didn't
[04:46.500 -> 04:48.300] come out until 20 minutes left.
[04:48.300 -> 04:51.740] And when he came out, the track was at its wettest and FB one.
[04:51.740 -> 04:56.780] So that's always great to start off the week, um, with a kick in the gut like that.
[04:56.780 -> 05:01.180] Um, we rode max and FB three and he took care of business.
[05:01.180 -> 05:04.540] Um, in the race, I went signs of her Perez.
[05:04.540 -> 05:05.720] And I mean, that, that doesn't really
[05:05.720 -> 05:12.560] need to be talked about. Um, we all saw, um, congrats to Carwell signs now with his fourth
[05:12.560 -> 05:19.920] last place finish of the year. I believe he was 60 to one. Um, in comparison, Latifi has
[05:19.920 -> 05:26.500] zero last place finishes on the year. So anyone who thinks betting Latifi at plus 150,
[05:26.500 -> 05:27.580] you don't know shit.
[05:28.980 -> 05:32.740] You know, might as well take a roll on signs at 66 to one,
[05:32.740 -> 05:35.140] cause he's had four last place finishes.
[05:36.080 -> 05:41.080] I bet Gasly, when the line shifted against him,
[05:41.180 -> 05:43.420] this was like two, three hours before,
[05:43.420 -> 05:44.940] and the news wasn't released.
[05:44.940 -> 05:46.360] He was plus odds for stroll.
[05:47.240 -> 05:51.640] Um, I mean, ultimately I'm just glad Gasly's alive after that race.
[05:51.640 -> 05:53.040] I mean, he could have died.
[05:53.140 -> 05:58.800] So, um, I mean, I'll take that, but I mean, a 22nd time penalty for
[05:58.800 -> 06:00.680] a guy almost getting killed.
[06:00.680 -> 06:08.680] I mean, I mean, you know, the ration of net have never even started in. I don't know what the FAA is doing
[06:08.680 -> 06:11.640] there. I mean, you're blaming a guy in a race and pitch
[06:11.640 -> 06:15.440] darkness with torrential downpour for nearly like hitting
[06:15.440 -> 06:20.360] a safety, like, or they claim it's a safety, but it's it's a
[06:20.360 -> 06:26.400] tractor. I mean, they were just, I mean, basically eight years to the anniversary of Jules
[06:26.400 -> 06:32.880] Bianchi. So that was just pretty sickening. No, see, um, hit Magnuson over Albon at plus odds on
[06:32.880 -> 06:41.440] the first lap and then, um, lost the Yuki group. He was matched against, uh, Joe and Gasly and
[06:41.440 -> 06:46.640] then stroll. So another terrible week. Um,, you know, glad to still be there.
[06:47.200 -> 06:49.920] You know, glad to still see all the drivers made it out in one piece
[06:49.920 -> 06:53.760] and, you know, had a birthday Saturday night, but no luck my way.
[06:53.760 -> 06:57.080] But, you know, that's how the cookie crumbles were damn use of that this year.
[06:57.080 -> 07:01.200] But, you know, I'm having shit show of a race, but at least,
[07:01.200 -> 07:04.280] you know, all 20 guys are going to be able to race next week.
[07:04.760 -> 07:05.760] By the way happy
[07:05.760 -> 07:13.680] birthday Jinx he is the young and up-and-coming better of this crew not like this old man that
[07:13.680 -> 07:34.080] is talking on the mic so again happy birthday. Yeah happy 21st man. Yeah yeah he's finally he can legally gamble and drink. You're what 26, 27? Oh man. Yeah so yeah and you know
[07:34.080 -> 07:40.080] there was a lot of there was I mean again rain's always going to bring chaos we all know that.
[07:41.600 -> 07:48.280] One thing I will say is don't do what I did. I think I got a little horny is what I would say
[07:48.280 -> 07:49.780] on trying to make these bets.
[07:49.780 -> 07:53.720] I think we're just at the stretch of what, four more races.
[07:53.720 -> 07:57.560] You kind of get excited, made pretty good profits this year
[07:57.560 -> 07:59.460] and I just kind of pushed the envelope.
[07:59.460 -> 08:02.800] One of them I did really like too
[08:02.800 -> 08:07.060] was what Lights Out was calling out as the fastest pit stop.
[08:07.700 -> 08:11.800] And my God, that was so close and hitting lights.
[08:12.440 -> 08:13.280] How close was that?
[08:15.120 -> 08:15.400] Yeah.
[08:15.400 -> 08:16.320] What was it again?
[08:16.760 -> 08:18.720] Two to one hundredths of a second.
[08:18.760 -> 08:22.760] It's just so I don't, I don't even, I don't even, it makes me want to puke
[08:22.760 -> 08:25.460] because it wasn't an Alpha Tor Tory that just beat him by that.
[08:26.000 -> 08:26.160] Yeah.
[08:26.160 -> 08:31.960] I'm glad I'm glad I didn't watch the race live because Aston Martin posted the best,
[08:32.600 -> 08:35.760] uh, like fastest pit stops for the first round there.
[08:36.300 -> 08:41.380] And then it was guys late pit stop, which was unnecessary by the way.
[08:41.560 -> 08:43.500] Um, that's the one that beat it.
[08:44.040 -> 08:46.920] If you guys remember the head, I think Yuki was like in points.
[08:47.200 -> 08:49.920] He's intense and I pitted him for some reason so that he could go on better
[08:49.920 -> 08:54.640] tires and start 15 and hopefully pass five people to get back where he was.
[08:55.360 -> 08:56.680] It just didn't make any sense.
[08:56.720 -> 08:59.280] Uh, guys, he was a little farther back, so they took the risk and
[08:59.280 -> 09:01.360] pitted him, I guess, fair enough.
[09:01.480 -> 09:04.240] You know, um, yeah, 20 to one.
[09:04.720 -> 09:09.700] I was feeling really, really good about it, but, uh, it's, it's hard to back a
[09:09.700 -> 09:13.040] dog like that because the house just has so many outs and that was one of them.
[09:13.420 -> 09:17.640] So, um, and Red Bull didn't even win it either.
[09:17.680 -> 09:21.100] So whatever, at least it'll bring the line back to more beddable for Red Bull.
[09:21.360 -> 09:26.000] Cause I mean, in dry conditions, uh, fairly predictable track, predictable
[09:26.000 -> 09:27.200] weather, Red Bull should be the.
[09:28.120 -> 09:28.620] Yeah.
[09:28.780 -> 09:29.960] Yeah, no, absolutely.
[09:29.960 -> 09:35.480] And maybe we can start transitioning into, uh, the US GP.
[09:35.720 -> 09:39.800] Uh, I'm very excited as everyone knows.
[09:39.840 -> 09:42.400] Uh, this is the first race.
[09:42.480 -> 09:45.940] Well, actually technical, I forgot we had Miami this year.
[09:45.940 -> 09:50.740] So technically second race, uh, in the U S and we're going to have three next year.
[09:51.220 -> 09:52.300] It's in Austin.
[09:52.420 -> 09:57.420] Uh, let's start with the weather right now, whether in Texas,
[09:57.500 -> 10:01.540] as someone that's lived here, we have not seen rain as often as.
[10:02.020 -> 10:04.200] All these racetracks have been seeing.
[10:04.200 -> 10:06.640] So if it, if it rains that weekend,
[10:06.640 -> 10:12.080] I will seriously lose my shit. But right now it's calling for no rain. It should be pretty dry,
[10:13.040 -> 10:16.640] you know, maybe partly cloudy at most. Obviously, this can change in a week.
[10:18.080 -> 10:21.440] But we're looking about we're going to get a little bit cooler temperatures. So we're not
[10:21.440 -> 10:32.640] going to see as like the since we're in the the U S now, I can, I'm going to use Fahrenheit, um, 85 plus degrees. I think it might be around there, but it's looking
[10:32.640 -> 10:36.400] like the track is, it's going to, it's going to be a nice weekend actually for the race.
[10:36.400 -> 10:43.520] So it's next weekend. As far as the layout, it is, I mean, really it's honestly comparable to
[10:43.520 -> 10:45.760] Singapore. It's got a little bit of everything.
[10:45.760 -> 10:49.040] It's got hairpins, it's got chicanes, long straight.
[10:49.600 -> 10:53.600] It's probably got the longer straight compared to Singapore.
[10:54.880 -> 10:59.440] And I mean, honestly, I think when it comes to the setup of the car,
[10:59.440 -> 11:03.200] you're not going to see a big difference in between these teams
[11:03.200 -> 11:09.040] and how they set it up for Singapore to this. I mean, it's either going to be balanced or maybe a little bit more high downforce.
[11:09.040 -> 11:16.960] It just depends. A couple of things that just kind of pop into mind is, you know, if there is some heat,
[11:17.840 -> 11:28.360] tire degradation is going to be a key and heat to those engines, such as like a Renault engine or maybe a Ferrari.
[11:28.360 -> 11:33.440] So things like they might not have it turned up all the way in first few practices because
[11:33.440 -> 11:36.960] of that. That's what Ferrari likes to do. They like to keep it turned down just to keep
[11:36.960 -> 11:40.680] the reliability. And that's another thing we've seen. The reliability has improved with
[11:40.680 -> 11:46.300] these cars over the over the past, like, I don't know, five races, six races in terms of that.
[11:47.240 -> 11:47.740] So, yeah.
[11:48.520 -> 11:54.340] Uh, there's not really a whole lot of odds out, but I haven't really spotted anything.
[11:54.360 -> 12:00.420] I think first initial thought is, is what, what is everyone thinking in terms of now
[12:00.420 -> 12:14.000] that Max is one, does he actually push or does he actually just, you know, ship it in just has a little fun does what he can but won't really push as hard when he needs to.
[12:14.000 -> 12:20.000] So, any of you guys have thoughts on that.
[12:20.000 -> 12:25.680] Well I could start. I think that he still wants to get that record for most wins in the season.
[12:25.680 -> 12:29.840] So I don't know if this is going to happen this weekend.
[12:29.840 -> 12:34.280] There's still quite a few more races left.
[12:34.280 -> 12:36.520] But from what I know, I kind of just
[12:36.520 -> 12:41.360] quickly looked at last year's race, just kind of like
[12:41.360 -> 12:43.880] overview, like a quick one.
[12:43.880 -> 12:47.960] And from the first look look as we all know
[12:48.520 -> 12:53.280] This is also a very wide track is very open. Even if you make a mistake you could come back again
[12:53.920 -> 12:59.680] And I do I will still probably back it depends on the odds. Of course, no retirement on the first lap
[12:59.680 -> 13:04.480] I know turn one is very dangerous because it's a it's kind of like you're going from the main straight
[13:04.480 -> 13:08.980] Then you're turning that wide left so we could see a collision there
[13:08.980 -> 13:16.320] I mean it happens, but other than that like if we escape turn one, it is a very open track
[13:16.840 -> 13:17.980] quick turns
[13:17.980 -> 13:18.940] I
[13:18.940 -> 13:20.940] like that and also over
[13:21.720 -> 13:26.940] 17 and a half I would say would be the line for even money for drivers.
[13:26.940 -> 13:29.940] It is a quick track.
[13:29.940 -> 13:30.940] I don't know.
[13:30.940 -> 13:37.740] Like you said, there's not many odds out there, so we can't really know what to expect yet.
[13:37.740 -> 13:40.340] But I do expect Max to still push.
[13:40.340 -> 13:45.000] Yeah, and I do like your no retirement at first,
[13:45.000 -> 13:48.400] because this turn one is actually different, right? I mean, it's uphill.
[13:48.400 -> 13:50.680] It's actually a little bit wider. It gives,
[13:50.680 -> 13:55.360] it gives a little bit more room in that hairpin for cars and hopefully not make
[13:55.360 -> 14:00.280] mistakes. So unless you're a Latifi or a Gasly, I mean, yeah,
[14:00.280 -> 14:04.520] I would see that it's going to be pretty cordial going into that first turn.
[14:04.520 -> 14:05.200] And of course no rain, right? Hopefully no rain. I mean, yeah, I would see that it's going to be pretty cordial going into that first turn.
[14:05.880 -> 14:07.920] And of course no rain, right? Hopefully no rain.
[14:08.040 -> 14:10.920] You know, I I'm telling you guys, I am telling you,
[14:10.920 -> 14:14.840] we haven't seen rain like that much rain in Texas.
[14:14.880 -> 14:19.280] I would say maybe like four inches in the past two months.
[14:19.440 -> 14:23.480] That's not a lot. So if it rains, I might lose it, but yes.
[14:23.920 -> 14:27.000] And then the, you said over 17 and a half as well.
[14:27.000 -> 14:31.000] Yeah. I mean, that's actually going to be a solid bet.
[14:31.000 -> 14:33.000] And again, that goes back to the weather, right?
[14:33.000 -> 14:36.000] If it's too hot, I would be cautious of it, but if it's actually pretty cool,
[14:36.000 -> 14:40.000] if we're talking about like low eighties, high seventies,
[14:40.000 -> 14:42.000] it's very possible that could be the temps.
[14:42.000 -> 14:45.480] Then I actually like that even more.
[14:45.580 -> 14:46.960] Um, absolutely.
[14:46.960 -> 14:46.980] Yeah.
[14:46.980 -> 14:51.360] Cause I looked at last year's and, uh, I seen that there, you know, uh, gas
[14:51.360 -> 14:56.940] to header retirement early on with a suspension issues and, uh, Esteban Alcon,
[14:57.000 -> 15:03.360] uh, he retired, uh, 10 lap, uh, 12 laps before with some mechanical issues.
[15:03.360 -> 15:05.400] And actually I'll also retired as well but
[15:05.400 -> 15:10.080] he classified because he was only four laps before the end of the race so he
[15:10.080 -> 15:14.920] was classified so it's you know like again we could have one big accident and
[15:14.920 -> 15:19.880] the over can go but uh just like I mentioned because of the wide track the
[15:19.880 -> 15:24.120] fast track I like the over yeah yeah I look again it depends on the weather
[15:24.120 -> 15:25.000] yeah in which you know again next week we'll have a podcast we'll do a preview I like the over. Yeah. Yeah. I look again, it depends on the weather. Yeah.
[15:25.000 -> 15:29.000] And which, you know, again, next week we'll have a podcast, we'll do a preview.
[15:29.000 -> 15:33.000] We'll be a little bit more aligned on that, but so this is just a preview, not telling
[15:33.000 -> 15:36.000] everyone to go out and make your bets, even though you can't really make bets on those.
[15:36.000 -> 15:40.000] So, uh, yeah, so that's, yeah, those are good picks.
[15:40.000 -> 15:41.000] I ain't definitely eyeing those.
[15:41.000 -> 15:44.000] Um, so yeah, I, I kind of dig those.
[15:44.000 -> 15:47.440] What about, uh, what about you Jinx? Do you have
[15:47.440 -> 15:52.960] anything in mind? I mean, Max got it locked up but um I mean,
[15:52.960 -> 15:55.280] it's a pretty close battle right now for second in the
[15:55.280 -> 15:58.460] driver's standings. Perez is ahead by a single point to
[15:58.460 -> 16:02.340] Leclerc. So, I mean, I know they're gonna be pushing for
[16:02.340 -> 16:05.040] Max but I mean, at this point, you know,
[16:05.040 -> 16:06.240] he's got everything locked up.
[16:06.240 -> 16:09.600] So maybe there'll be going more for Perez to try and,
[16:09.600 -> 16:12.360] you know, get second, you know, get the one, two.
[16:12.360 -> 16:14.480] I mean, other than that, I mean,
[16:14.480 -> 16:16.460] Red Bull's basically got the constructors locked up.
[16:16.460 -> 16:18.220] I don't think there's real, I mean,
[16:18.220 -> 16:21.720] I think that can last Ferrari one, twos and Red Bull,
[16:21.720 -> 16:22.980] DNFs, both drivers.
[16:22.980 -> 16:25.900] I don't think there's any chance they can do anything about that.
[16:25.940 -> 16:28.240] Um, Mercedes is pretty far back to get second.
[16:28.780 -> 16:34.700] Um, I mean, maybe I can ask some art now for a male battle, but I mean, I know
[16:34.700 -> 16:37.980] Hassan Alpha Tori, they're tied for eighth in the constructors, but we're
[16:37.980 -> 16:40.980] at the point of the year, there's four races left, you know, we're going to
[16:40.980 -> 16:47.320] start seeing teams, you know, planning for next year, um, maybe, you know, Perez and LeClaire will be battling it out.
[16:48.440 -> 16:52.300] Um, I mean, not going to really be, you know, taking anything more than a unit
[16:52.300 -> 16:57.420] before we see anything on track because this got four races left and I mean, you
[16:57.420 -> 17:02.320] know, with the budget, the way it is, you know, why, why risk your cars going into
[17:02.320 -> 17:02.880] next year?
[17:04.040 -> 17:08.440] Yeah, no, I, uh, I Yeah, no, I still wanna say though,
[17:08.440 -> 17:09.800] you're still gonna see a battle
[17:09.800 -> 17:11.520] between Ferrari and Mercedes,
[17:11.520 -> 17:13.880] just because there's still money on the line
[17:13.880 -> 17:17.200] for that constructor second place.
[17:17.200 -> 17:18.040] So I mean-
[17:18.040 -> 17:19.520] No, but I mean, Mercedes is,
[17:20.760 -> 17:23.320] I mean, they're about 65 points behind, so.
[17:23.320 -> 17:24.520] Yeah, it's still far.
[17:24.520 -> 17:28.880] So like this would have to be the race they have to capitalize.
[17:28.880 -> 17:32.400] Definitely, like this, this has to be the one.
[17:32.400 -> 17:40.520] If they can do it, if they can beat out Charles Leclerc and Sainz somehow, then they might
[17:40.520 -> 17:41.520] have a chance.
[17:41.520 -> 17:45.880] But otherwise, yeah, it's still far away.
[17:45.880 -> 17:50.880] But yeah, no, I think that the budget thing
[17:52.600 -> 17:54.520] has been obviously talked about.
[17:54.520 -> 17:55.940] I don't know that we,
[17:57.840 -> 17:59.580] I don't know if anyone actually understands it,
[17:59.580 -> 18:01.920] so I don't even think it's really something
[18:01.920 -> 18:07.760] we should discuss, but it is funny seeing all the memes go around this past week with, uh,
[18:08.480 -> 18:10.040] with red bulls catering menu.
[18:10.240 -> 18:14.040] I can't wait to see what next year's is like, but lights.
[18:14.280 -> 18:15.000] What about you?
[18:15.160 -> 18:18.360] Do you have any early thoughts for next week?
[18:18.360 -> 18:20.400] I'm just looking forward to a race with no rain.
[18:20.400 -> 18:24.240] Like I think last, definitely the last two have had days with rain.
[18:24.360 -> 18:29.200] I want to say even last couple in Europe there to close out that one too.
[18:29.200 -> 18:33.960] So, um, the discord has been battling through the rain, which
[18:34.120 -> 18:35.680] makes all sorts of variants.
[18:35.740 -> 18:38.520] And it's just harder to dial in on a little more random.
[18:39.120 -> 18:44.240] Um, we saw what we can do, like qualifying was dry in Japan and we just
[18:44.240 -> 18:49.040] dialed right in on that with the, with the over underlines on underdog, uh, that was
[18:49.040 -> 18:51.860] definitely the most profitable session of the weekend.
[18:51.980 -> 18:54.160] And so I'm looking forward to that in Austin.
[18:54.340 -> 18:56.680] Uh, the key there is, is getting on lines early, whether it's
[18:56.680 -> 19:01.500] price picks or underdog and then, um, Finding, finding good pairs and locking
[19:01.500 -> 19:10.080] them up, I think last week we saw, uh, underdog doesn't like Alex Albon. They usually drop a line on him. That's way too high. So you get a, um,
[19:10.960 -> 19:17.600] high probability pick there. And then they, they have to pick one of Paris or science to, um, be
[19:17.600 -> 19:22.480] third or fourth. And they often get that wrong. So there's usually a couple opportunities there.
[19:22.480 -> 19:28.280] And then outside of Latifi, like he's usually 18 and a half, 19 and a half.
[19:28.800 -> 19:32.880] And then they have to put somebody else behind them at 17 and a half or 18 and a
[19:32.880 -> 19:33.280] half.
[19:33.680 -> 19:35.320] I think Mick was 18 and a half.
[19:35.320 -> 19:39.440] He started at the last two qualifying sessions and, uh, usually qualifies
[19:39.440 -> 19:40.200] pretty okay.
[19:40.280 -> 19:44.600] Like sometimes those hosses will sneak into Q2, uh, and they usually
[19:44.600 -> 19:46.200] don't qualify second last.
[19:46.200 -> 19:47.680] So that line is a little undeserved.
[19:47.680 -> 19:51.760] So I'm looking for value on the qualifying over and under lines.
[19:51.760 -> 19:56.760] As for the traditional sports book stuff, I saw Perez to win three or more.
[19:56.760 -> 19:58.960] So basically one more was plus 200.
[19:58.960 -> 20:03.680] I think he's getting a little more hype because he just won one.
[20:03.680 -> 20:05.520] So I don't want to buy high on that one.
[20:05.520 -> 20:10.680] I think I want to wait and let a USGP go by and then see what Perez's odds are,
[20:11.080 -> 20:12.640] especially with Mexico coming up.
[20:12.720 -> 20:17.520] Um, yeah, for him to win one of the next four, I don't think is, is asking too
[20:17.520 -> 20:22.540] much, but, um, as Del Chato pointed out, like Max is going for that, for that
[20:22.540 -> 20:24.120] winning season of all time.
[20:24.520 -> 20:27.960] Uh, so there's absolutely no doubt about who the best of all time is.
[20:27.960 -> 20:29.800] So that might hurt Paris.
[20:30.220 -> 20:32.140] Um, it's hard to back Charles right now.
[20:32.140 -> 20:33.180] He just looks horrible.
[20:33.400 -> 20:39.980] I think he took advantage of Ferrari when they started out the season, um, way ahead
[20:39.980 -> 20:43.400] in terms of car development over the rest of the field, and now that everybody else
[20:43.400 -> 20:46.160] has caught up, he just doesn't seem to have that championship mentality.
[20:46.160 -> 20:49.960] It's like, um, yeah, always finds a way to get second or worse.
[20:50.060 -> 20:53.520] And, and, uh, we saw what happened even like last race, you know, he
[20:54.040 -> 20:57.340] lifted on the very last corner to, to give up second place.
[20:57.340 -> 21:01.480] So, um, yeah, those are some of my early thoughts and just want to reiterate.
[21:01.480 -> 21:02.920] I'm really looking forward to some dry weather.
[21:02.920 -> 21:07.120] That's when the stats and the projections and the, um, you know,
[21:07.120 -> 21:09.760] advanced data that we all look at, that's when we can dial in and have
[21:09.760 -> 21:13.200] some sort of confidence on the ranges and, uh, and the outcomes.
[21:13.200 -> 21:13.840] So, yeah.
[21:14.440 -> 21:14.680] Yeah.
[21:14.680 -> 21:19.280] I think, uh, FP three is, uh, I guess quality for Singapore is going to be a
[21:19.280 -> 21:27.980] good early benchmark for me to go into the race, but I probably just gonna, I mean, it's going
[21:27.980 -> 21:31.780] to be nice actually Friday. We were going to have the sessions in the afternoon. Maybe
[21:31.780 -> 21:36.880] we'll do another life Twitch session session. I don't know. Um, I know that that was pretty
[21:36.880 -> 21:43.440] fun last week doing that with y'all. Um, pretty good time, but, um, yeah, again, I think just
[21:43.440 -> 21:47.880] the early benchmark would be Singapore or Singapore, Japanese
[21:47.880 -> 21:51.360] GP, maybe look back at like the French GP.
[21:51.360 -> 21:55.280] I think that track has some similarities where you can look at that, but it's kind of far
[21:55.280 -> 21:56.280] back.
[21:56.280 -> 21:59.240] Yeah, so it'll be very interesting.
[21:59.240 -> 22:00.240] I do agree.
[22:00.240 -> 22:03.440] A lot of love for Checo.
[22:03.440 -> 22:09.480] I think I feel like I'm the only one that feels like he's not going to win the Mexican
[22:09.480 -> 22:11.200] GP.
[22:11.200 -> 22:17.200] I honestly, I just, I think that Mercedes is there.
[22:17.200 -> 22:19.560] I feel like a broken record.
[22:19.560 -> 22:24.280] I say, I feel like I've been saying this almost every week for the past four weeks or so.
[22:24.280 -> 22:25.520] They're going to win one. It's going to happen, but I've been saying this almost every week for the past four weeks or so. They're going to win one.
[22:25.520 -> 22:27.800] It's going to happen, but I have been very consistent.
[22:27.800 -> 22:29.340] If there is going to be one, they're going to win.
[22:29.340 -> 22:31.020] It's going to be Brazil.
[22:31.020 -> 22:32.020] That is the one.
[22:32.020 -> 22:34.120] That's the one I'm going to, that's my shot.
[22:34.120 -> 22:36.920] I'm calling it there.
[22:36.920 -> 22:41.120] Let's go ahead and just dive into just futures bet 2023.
[22:41.120 -> 22:49.440] I know that right now the season's basically over, but not over. We got actually some early
[22:50.320 -> 22:57.680] future lines for next year. Even one of the people in Discord, Soxman, giving you a shoutout,
[22:57.680 -> 23:05.840] you called out the Perez plus 150, I think, for this year actually to win, you can actually get that for plus 175.
[23:05.840 -> 23:10.640] Uh, not that I'm looking at it at MGM, but for next year, they already got the driver's
[23:10.640 -> 23:12.160] championship 2023.
[23:12.160 -> 23:19.400] Um, looks like Max is obviously the leader in this at a minus one 35 odd Lewis second
[23:19.400 -> 23:22.800] plus 300 Charles Eclair at plus 400.
[23:22.800 -> 23:27.000] And then we got 1400 for Russell sign Russell, Sine 1,600.
[23:27.000 -> 23:29.000] Wow, Perez, 2,200. Crazy.
[23:29.000 -> 23:31.000] So, yeah, we got odds for next year.
[23:31.000 -> 23:32.000] What do you guys think?
[23:35.000 -> 23:36.000] I can't even...
[23:37.000 -> 23:39.000] Man, it's so hard.
[23:39.000 -> 23:40.000] I just don't know.
[23:40.000 -> 23:43.000] I mean, like we discussed this before the pod,
[23:43.000 -> 23:45.800] Max and these odds at minus one
[23:46.640 -> 23:51.780] 35 did you say it was yeah minus for 35. That's a good bad. I really is
[23:51.780 -> 23:57.480] I mean it really is not a fan of Red Bull so I can't really root and pay the juice
[23:58.320 -> 24:03.640] Offered the season long, but you know what bet we're gonna make guys and we're going to request it again
[24:04.000 -> 24:07.100] we're gonna go to Bovada and we're going to request for a
[24:07.960 -> 24:14.900] Safety and a virtual safety car for every race for next year get those plus six thousand six hundred out and with it, right?
[24:15.040 -> 24:17.360] Yeah. Oh, yeah. Absolutely cross
[24:18.200 -> 24:19.340] Absolutely
[24:19.340 -> 24:21.340] Definitely, and if you guys don't know about this
[24:22.380 -> 24:26.580] Apparently you can be requesting these odds through Twitter and you just got to
[24:26.580 -> 24:30.900] add them or hashtag them. I can't remember what it was, what the hashtag was.
[24:31.740 -> 24:36.780] What's your wager. And, and they will just, they'll put it up for you. Um,
[24:36.900 -> 24:41.500] so it's pretty amazing. I love it. But yeah, I, it's crazy. I,
[24:42.060 -> 24:45.120] you know, I took the future bet and I hate futures bets. I hate them.
[24:45.120 -> 24:45.460] I hate them.
[24:45.460 -> 24:45.860] I hate them.
[24:45.920 -> 24:48.320] But when it, where it makes sense, I will definitely do them.
[24:49.040 -> 24:51.200] This one kind of does in a way.
[24:51.520 -> 24:55.160] Um, I mean, max isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
[24:55.420 -> 24:57.620] You're not going to see it at minus one 35.
[24:57.920 -> 25:02.480] The only way you see it at minus one 35 is like what happened this year
[25:02.880 -> 25:05.400] where he just, what did he have?
[25:05.400 -> 25:07.800] Two DNFs in the first three or four races.
[25:08.020 -> 25:11.040] And, you know, kind of unfortunate situation for him.
[25:11.920 -> 25:15.880] I was lucky enough to have grabbed him at like plus two Oh five odds at the time
[25:15.880 -> 25:19.160] when everyone was just like, Oh, Ferrari is actually going to do it this year.
[25:19.560 -> 25:21.960] No, no, it was, it was too easy to take.
[25:22.000 -> 25:27.400] I probably should have just unleashed the fury on that 205 looking back, but you're
[25:27.400 -> 25:31.160] just not going to see those types of odds unless that happens, which I don't think that
[25:31.160 -> 25:36.640] replicates next year because now they've had a full season under these new cars.
[25:36.640 -> 25:37.640] They have better understanding.
[25:37.640 -> 25:41.760] They didn't have to, they don't have to worry about the little things, worrying about porpoising
[25:41.760 -> 25:49.400] or anything like that when it comes to the car anymore. So now they could just focus on really fine tuning the actual spec of the car.
[25:50.600 -> 25:53.300] So yeah, it's kind of do dig it.
[25:53.600 -> 25:55.400] What about you guys, Jinx?
[25:55.400 -> 25:58.100] Yeah, I mean, I'd wait.
[25:58.600 -> 26:04.000] I mean, even this year, you know, in testing, everyone saw the side pods Mercedes had and,
[26:04.000 -> 26:06.840] you know, they thought it was going to be a dominant Mercedes year.
[26:06.840 -> 26:11.040] But I mean, this is a down year, honestly, for Mercedes with all the issues they've had
[26:11.040 -> 26:13.880] to deal with, how uncomfortable the cars are to drive.
[26:13.880 -> 26:21.320] But I mean, they've been at worst, you know, a fifth, sixth place car, week in, week out.
[26:21.320 -> 26:26.620] Most likely they're going to be third this year, so they'll get more. Um, R and D time for next year.
[26:27.920 -> 26:32.180] I know we saw Ferrari basically bagged the last two years, but I mean, I still
[26:32.180 -> 26:35.820] don't think we expected them to come out the gate the first couple of weeks.
[26:35.820 -> 26:37.040] Like they did.
[26:37.040 -> 26:41.980] I mean, yeah, max DNF Bahrain and the DNF Australia, but what Claire
[26:41.980 -> 26:50.400] had the pace, both of those races. So, I mean, they just be laying, um, minus one 35 when we got, you know,
[26:50.860 -> 26:54.020] months and months to go before the season even starts and testing.
[26:54.020 -> 26:55.420] I just think that's too much.
[26:56.320 -> 27:01.560] Um, I mean, granted, I mean, it's, I mean, the red bulls had a good two years, but
[27:01.800 -> 27:03.520] I mean, we saw what happened last year.
[27:04.300 -> 27:08.920] Um, max basically dominated the year and Mercedes figured out, you know,
[27:08.920 -> 27:10.400] they could just turn the engines up.
[27:11.040 -> 27:15.600] They could just, you know, race three, four races with one engine and turn it
[27:15.600 -> 27:19.520] all the way up and they were, you know, a second faster, a lap towards the end of
[27:19.520 -> 27:19.880] the year.
[27:19.960 -> 27:24.440] So, um, I mean, it's, it's, it's tough to bet against Mercedes.
[27:24.480 -> 27:24.700] So, um, I mean, it's just, it's tough to bet against Mercedes.
[27:29.760 -> 27:32.240] Um, but I mean, I don't, I, outside of the big three, nobody's going to have a real shot next year.
[27:34.220 -> 27:34.880] I love it.
[27:35.080 -> 27:35.640] I love it.
[27:35.680 -> 27:38.980] And it just hypes me up for next season, to be honest with you, man.
[27:38.980 -> 27:42.880] When you say that, it really hypes me up because I can't wait.
[27:43.040 -> 27:47.600] Like this was just a crappy season for them.
[27:47.600 -> 27:48.440] So.
[27:48.440 -> 27:50.860] I think we can almost get like, you know, head to heads.
[27:50.860 -> 27:53.220] And I mean, I would almost lean like constructors
[27:53.220 -> 27:55.720] and drivers towards the Mercedes over a Ferrari.
[27:56.780 -> 27:58.340] They just so consistent this year
[27:58.340 -> 28:00.600] and the cars have just been so uncomfortable
[28:00.600 -> 28:01.440] for them to drive.
[28:01.440 -> 28:04.080] And they've just, they've persevered.
[28:04.080 -> 28:08.040] I mean, congrats on Red Bull and winning, you know, the title this year,
[28:08.040 -> 28:12.800] but it's just, Ferrari's had the faster car, you know, at least the first half
[28:12.800 -> 28:14.260] of the year, almost every week they did.
[28:14.260 -> 28:17.460] And they just did everything they could to throw the title away this year.
[28:18.100 -> 28:21.980] Um, I, I just, I can't see Ferrari bouncing back next year.
[28:22.420 -> 28:25.440] I mean, I'd be surprised if they even won another race this year
[28:32.320 -> 28:38.480] with just how much they've bundled this year. Yeah, I like the takes you got, man. Those are some good ones. And again, I think you and I both are in the same boat. I think next year could be
[28:38.480 -> 28:45.680] totally different. I actually still hope that Ferrari does get a little bit better about their reliability
[28:45.680 -> 28:48.180] and strategy.
[28:48.180 -> 28:54.560] It would be fun to see a three horse race for the driver's championship, but obviously
[28:54.560 -> 28:56.760] they don't probably be a three horse race.
[28:56.760 -> 29:01.400] I mean, they'll probably be strong on the streets like they were last year, but I mean,
[29:01.400 -> 29:03.040] but you know how it is.
[29:03.040 -> 29:04.040] Yeah.
[29:04.040 -> 29:05.980] But Mercedes isn't going to have a year like this
[29:05.980 -> 29:08.100] where they're, you know, struggling for a win.
[29:08.100 -> 29:09.780] Yeah, that won't happen.
[29:09.780 -> 29:12.520] Mercedes at worst next year will be number two.
[29:12.520 -> 29:14.920] And I think we'll see Ferrari regress back to third.
[29:15.220 -> 29:16.420] And I mean, the dominant third.
[29:16.420 -> 29:19.020] I mean, you know, Alpine will probably be the fourth best.
[29:19.620 -> 29:22.660] Maybe McLaren, but Norris is going to have to carry.
[29:22.660 -> 29:24.860] But I mean, we'll have the big three.
[29:24.860 -> 29:27.160] But I think, you know, it'll be closer to next
[29:27.160 -> 29:30.960] year or last year was, you know, we'll have red bull and Mercedes back up at the
[29:30.960 -> 29:31.240] top.
[29:32.360 -> 29:33.880] Well, I can tell you this.
[29:34.200 -> 29:39.000] Toto already is baking in a big catering budget for 2023.
[29:39.240 -> 29:40.000] I just know it.
[29:40.080 -> 29:41.160] The menu's huge.
[29:41.200 -> 29:44.520] It's large talking about like 3 million plus.
[29:44.720 -> 29:45.600] So he's ready.
[29:46.560 -> 29:54.400] A lot of sick days. A lot of sick days. Yes. All right. Well, yeah, lights. What about you?
[29:54.400 -> 30:00.800] Let's get your thoughts before we sign off here. I just, I don't think the, I don't think Mercedes
[30:00.800 -> 30:05.280] saying they'll be competitive next year. Like I don't understand where they have the, where, like where they've shown that
[30:05.360 -> 30:06.840] they seem just way off.
[30:06.840 -> 30:12.900] I think there was like a mid season burst of optimism where it's like, maybe when
[30:12.900 -> 30:16.400] we're on European tracks, the car will show better and they botched that.
[30:16.400 -> 30:17.600] Like, they're not even close right now.
[30:17.600 -> 30:18.000] I don't know.
[30:18.000 -> 30:21.840] I don't think they're going to magically somehow catch up to the other two.
[30:22.320 -> 30:29.720] Um, like I think Ferrari strength is probably when they can work on their car,
[30:29.800 -> 30:33.880] like when they're not on the track and they're on on track team is blowing it.
[30:34.440 -> 30:36.080] And, uh, rebels moving target.
[30:36.080 -> 30:37.480] They're going to keep developing as well.
[30:37.480 -> 30:39.200] It sounds like Honda's back on board now.
[30:39.680 -> 30:43.480] Uh, you know, refreshed, refreshed commitment from them.
[30:44.040 -> 30:46.000] Uh, Mercedes is a long way to go. That's the truth of it. It seems like Toto back on board now, uh, you know, refreshed, well, refreshed commitment from them.
[30:46.520 -> 30:47.900] Uh, Mercedes has a long way to go.
[30:47.900 -> 30:48.680] That's the truth of it.
[30:48.720 -> 30:52.480] It seems like total is finally figuring out, you know, maybe I have to roll
[30:52.480 -> 30:56.320] in my sleeves and get my elbows out and play dirty here, uh, cause I mean,
[30:56.320 -> 30:58.960] clearly Red Bull figured that out a long time ago, that was the only chance they
[30:58.960 -> 31:02.600] were going to catch Lewis on those old cars and they managed to squeak out a
[31:02.600 -> 31:07.520] win last year and then this year, um, you know, with the new cars, they've, they've been
[31:07.520 -> 31:11.320] head and shoulders better, um, on the, at least on the car side anyway.
[31:11.320 -> 31:13.400] So Mercedes has a ways to go.
[31:13.440 -> 31:16.520] Uh, I certainly wouldn't be putting money on them until they show it.
[31:16.920 -> 31:19.960] And, uh, I think as you started off the show with max at minus
[31:19.960 -> 31:24.440] one 30 and minus one 50 to win next year, you got to think that's going to look
[31:24.560 -> 31:26.200] maybe like this time next year.
[31:26.200 -> 31:28.280] Like, why didn't I put the house on that one?
[31:28.920 -> 31:31.400] Not that I would ever recommend that on a future is back.
[31:31.400 -> 31:35.280] Cause you got to wait so long, but, um, yeah, we'll see.
[31:35.280 -> 31:36.140] We'll see what next year brings.
[31:36.140 -> 31:39.720] Anyway, it's, it's kind of sad that the base season's basically winding down.
[31:39.720 -> 31:46.540] Like you not obviously very different from last year and this year it was really won and lost in the middle of the
[31:46.540 -> 31:47.460] season in Europe there.
[31:47.500 -> 31:49.740] So, um, we'll enjoy a few more races.
[31:50.120 -> 31:53.720] Obviously we created an amazing, amazing crew in the discord.
[31:54.200 -> 31:57.100] Uh, as you look back over those messages from the start, there's
[31:57.100 -> 32:00.920] some really good memories in there and just super grateful to have met you all.
[32:00.920 -> 32:04.240] And, and, uh, the real, the real money we made were the friends
[32:04.240 -> 32:06.320] we made along the way. Yeah, yeah.
[32:06.960 -> 32:12.160] Yeah, I mean, I'll just chime in real quick. I mean, I'm not saying Mercedes has the fastest
[32:12.160 -> 32:17.120] car, but just consistency wise, and I mean, they're just their guys. They don't make mistakes,
[32:17.760 -> 32:24.080] Hamilton and Russell, like all year. I mean, Red Bull's got, but I mean, you look at the second
[32:24.080 -> 32:28.880] drivers, I mean, Sainz and Perez, they've both made mistakes, and especially's got, but I mean, you know, you look at the second drivers, I mean, signs and Perez, they both made mistakes and especially Claire,
[32:28.880 -> 32:30.140] he's made some mistakes too.
[32:30.140 -> 32:35.120] So I just, uh, for our earth, Mercedes can just up that car a little
[32:35.120 -> 32:38.220] bit, it doesn't need to be, you know, I mean, even signs is one of the
[32:38.220 -> 32:40.960] race this year, so let's give them a competent car.
[32:41.340 -> 32:43.220] Um, I think they got the drivers for it.
[32:43.980 -> 32:44.300] Yeah.
[32:44.300 -> 32:48.280] And, and it's not like like they they really had some power
[32:48.280 -> 32:52.280] struggles in the beginning of the year. Lots of issues. And
[32:52.280 -> 32:54.820] just when you thought it was going to be a disastrous season,
[32:54.820 -> 32:57.840] they still did show up. They were at one point, they were
[32:57.840 -> 33:03.800] just podium after podium. And I, yeah, I truly believe that they
[33:03.800 -> 33:06.360] will find a way to get up there.
[33:06.360 -> 33:07.680] Will they beat max?
[33:08.200 -> 33:12.780] I mean, that's definitely hard to say right now, but you never know, right?
[33:12.780 -> 33:18.140] Like anything can change between now and next year and in total, we trust.
[33:18.920 -> 33:22.360] And I'll just leave you with this, uh, lights out.
[33:22.380 -> 33:26.440] How dare you, how dare you slander Mercedes like that? Just
[33:26.440 -> 33:35.240] no. I just can't wait actually for next year. I do want to see a Max versus Hamilton. Just
[33:35.240 -> 33:40.680] yeah, that would be fun with Lights Out. We'll just be chirping at each other the entire
[33:40.680 -> 33:46.880] time probably. Yeah, I'll give you even odds on Hamilton to beat Max.
[33:48.720 -> 33:55.280] Put your money where your mouth is. Well, on that case, we got to end the pod. I will not take that
[33:55.280 -> 34:07.000] bet. No, guys, this is great. And Lights, just want to echo what you just said. Yeah, everyone in this Discord has been absolutely amazing,
[34:07.000 -> 34:10.000] from Jinx to Del Cheddo to you, Lights,
[34:10.000 -> 34:16.000] to the many different folks that have just jumped into the Discord with us.
[34:16.000 -> 34:21.000] As someone that had more of a narrow-minded way of betting F1,
[34:21.000 -> 34:24.000] you guys introduced some other ways, some other angles.
[34:24.000 -> 34:27.800] I never touched FP1 until we started talking more about trends.
[34:27.800 -> 34:30.600] I mean, to all our listeners out there,
[34:30.600 -> 34:35.400] these are reasons why you should get into the Discord, listen to the podcast.
[34:35.400 -> 34:39.000] There are just a lot of sharp guys bringing lots of different inputs
[34:39.000 -> 34:42.500] from all different angles to where you can maximize a bet.
[34:42.500 -> 34:44.400] You don't have to like everyone's bet.
[34:44.400 -> 34:46.960] You can just pick and choose.
[34:46.960 -> 34:51.040] It's all a cart, so you can just have some fun with it.
[34:51.040 -> 34:53.280] But with that being said, that was fun, guys.
[34:53.280 -> 34:56.760] We will be back next week for the USGP.
[34:56.760 -> 34:58.560] I am looking forward to it.
[34:58.560 -> 35:02.080] So yeah, for now, we'll sign off and see y'all next week.
[34:59.350 -> 35:01.750] For now, we'll sign off and see you all next week.