Podcast: F1 Money Gang
Published Date:
Wed, 23 Aug 2023 22:06:18 -0500
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33:45
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## Formula One Money Gang Podcast Episode Summary:
### Race Week Preview: Dutch Grand Prix
- The Dutch Grand Prix is set to take place at Zandvoort, a track similar to the Hungaroring with medium to high downforce requirements.
- The race weekend begins on Friday, September 2nd, with free practice sessions.
- The qualifying sessions will be held on Saturday, September 3rd, to determine the starting grid for the race.
- The main race will take place on Sunday, September 4th, with a total of 72 laps to complete.
### Free Money Friday Picks:
- **Lando Norris Top 3:** Priced at +160 to +165, this pick is based on McLaren's strong performance at tracks like Hungary, where they have been the second-fastest car on the grid.
- **George Russell Top 3:** Offered at +500, this pick takes into account Russell's previous success at Zandvoort and his recent strong performances in practice sessions.
- **Esteban Ocon Head-to-Head vs. Pierre Gasly:** Ocon has a slight advantage over Gasly in previous races, and the odds for this pick are favorable at around -135.
### Additional Picks:
- **Mercedes Double Top 6 Finish:** This pick is based on Mercedes' strong performance at Hungary, a track with similar characteristics to Zandvoort.
- **Charles Leclerc Over Sergio Perez in FP1:** Leclerc has consistently outperformed Perez in practice sessions and qualifying in recent races, making this pick attractive at odds of -110.
- **Lance Stroll Over Alpine Drivers in FP1:** This pick is based on Stroll's strong performance in FP1 sessions and the fact that Alpine drivers have not been as competitive in practice.
- **Russell Over Oscar Piastri in FP1:** Both drivers are expected to perform well, but Russell has a slight edge due to his experience and recent form.
- **Aston Martin Double Top 10 Finish:** This pick is based on Aston Martin's recent improvements and the fact that they have been consistently finishing in the top 10.
- **Max Verstappen Fastest Qualifier, Fastest Lap, and Race Win:** This parlay bet is based on Verstappen's dominance this season and his strong record at Zandvoort.
### Weather Forecast:
- There is a 35-40% chance of rain during the race weekend, which could impact the strategies and performances of the teams.
### Notable Quotes:
- "McLaren and the car setup they have right now just in general and they really seem like the second-fastest car on the grid." - Renegade
- "It's not really a track that Gas has had the best success in. Ocon's just kind of been Ocon." - Integrity Bets
- "Mercedes did quite well at Hungary and it's a similar, quite similar track, just a bit slopes and stuff like that, and banking." - Renegade
- "This is a track if they can just get it right, get the qualifying right, get in that top six, be in the top five, you give yourself a chance to be second or third." - Integrity Bets
- "Forget about the race. Forget about sprint races. I removed all that when I was just looking at the past three races." - Integrity Bets
- "Charles has been quick all year. It's just the longevity of that car that kills him every single time." - Renegade
- "I really like renegades double, the Mercedes top six. It's good." - Chris
- "The books are just, I mean, we're halfway through. There's just not too much value." - Chris
- "Ferrari and Aston Martin are kind of in their own tier right now." - Integrity Bets
- "Max is not gonna have a 40-second lead. So I think I mean they are the best pit crew. It's not like they can just take their time got to be a little quick this time." - Renegade
- "It's a lot of sense. It does,, I'm getting a lot of sense." - Integrity Bets
- "I'm hoping to capture some data points. I definitely would like to attack the head-to-head market on Sunday, for Sunday that is. But as of right now, that's really all I had." - Integrity Bets
[00:00.000 -> 00:25.320] Welcome to the F1 Money Gang podcast.
[00:25.320 -> 00:26.600] We are back.
[00:26.700 -> 00:31.240] It is post summer break feels like an eternity.
[00:31.740 -> 00:33.180] And here we are guys.
[00:33.240 -> 00:38.360] Uh, but before we get started, uh, this segment is brought you by our
[00:38.360 -> 00:40.440] partners underdog fantasy sports.
[00:40.520 -> 00:45.000] Uh, F1 Money Gang is the promo code, 100% deposit match
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[00:51.800 -> 00:55.840] who does a lot of fantasy leagues and soon to be pick-ems.
[00:55.840 -> 00:58.040] And I feel like I'm missing other people.
[00:58.040 -> 01:00.280] Betstamp, Betstamp is another one.
[01:01.520 -> 01:03.720] And I don't know, I think we got like four
[01:03.720 -> 01:05.760] or five different partners, but let's get into it.
[01:05.760 -> 01:06.840] That's neither here nor there.
[01:06.840 -> 01:10.240] We want to get into the race week.
[01:10.240 -> 01:12.600] Before we get into it, Zandvoort.
[01:12.600 -> 01:20.320] This track is going to be similar to Hungry.
[01:20.320 -> 01:23.440] I know there are different comparisons.
[01:23.440 -> 01:25.880] We're talking about a higher downforce track.
[01:26.000 -> 01:31.160] So pretty, you know, medium to medium high, even downforce,
[01:31.200 -> 01:32.520] maybe higher, even than that.
[01:33.360 -> 01:35.720] Uh, so tires are going to be very critical.
[01:35.840 -> 01:37.720] That's they're bringing the hardest compounds.
[01:37.720 -> 01:39.480] So the C1, C2, C3.
[01:40.520 -> 01:44.300] Um, but yeah, has a couple of bankings, which is going to be
[01:44.300 -> 01:46.120] very critical to a lot of teams. Um, but yeah, has a couple of bankings, which is going to be very critical to a lot of teams.
[01:46.120 -> 01:49.000] Um, but yeah, here we are.
[01:49.000 -> 01:53.680] I got renegade and integrity bets with us.
[01:53.680 -> 01:54.680] What's going on guys?
[01:54.680 -> 01:57.680] So feel like break.
[01:57.680 -> 01:58.680] It's over.
[01:58.680 -> 01:59.680] Yes.
[01:59.680 -> 02:00.680] Seriously.
[02:00.680 -> 02:01.840] It feels like an eternity.
[02:01.840 -> 02:04.920] However, we did have a very active summer break.
[02:04.920 -> 02:06.240] We did have IndyCar.
[02:06.240 -> 02:14.320] We had NASCAR. For our American listeners, the NFL preseason kicked off. I know that a bunch of us
[02:14.320 -> 02:21.520] were pretty excited about that. We were very active. And I actually had a very awesome two
[02:21.520 -> 02:25.920] and a half weeks, thanks to the F1 money gang who were just posting
[02:25.920 -> 02:32.520] plays left and right. Mac and I were just dominating the NFL preseason. I expect regression
[02:32.520 -> 02:33.520] to come now.
[02:33.520 -> 02:39.520] No, I mean, definitely not. Red right. Let us team. Yeah. Yeah. And it was we stayed
[02:39.520 -> 02:45.760] busy all spring break. It was a good IndyCar tries. Uh, that is really well. Oh, IndyCar definitely. Yeah.
[02:45.760 -> 02:47.760] Well, Paul is fantastic for being preseason.
[02:47.760 -> 02:50.320] I'll take it, but yeah.
[02:50.320 -> 02:51.320] Yeah.
[02:51.320 -> 02:54.800] And I know we're more interested in F1, but there is three weeks left.
[02:54.800 -> 02:56.680] I think three races left for IndyCar.
[02:56.680 -> 02:58.460] So that's coming to a close.
[02:58.460 -> 03:03.760] If you want any of the IndyCar content, come to, uh, integrity bets, Chris, myself, we
[03:03.760 -> 03:06.880] will have that for you. And then Renegades,
[03:06.880 -> 03:13.120] they are our ponies expert. So if you ever want the ponies, he's got his own
[03:14.800 -> 03:19.200] hustle going with that. So if you can subscribe to him, I don't know how much it is. I don't know
[03:19.200 -> 03:23.920] what the tiering is. I don't want to ruin his streak after I tried to follow him and he got,
[03:23.920 -> 03:26.300] he went broke after I started tailing him.
[03:27.900 -> 03:29.140] It's true. It's true.
[03:31.220 -> 03:35.260] All right, let's get into it. Um, racist this Friday, excited.
[03:35.860 -> 03:39.100] I'm excited, but I'm also torn. I'm not going to be there.
[03:39.120 -> 03:42.660] I'm not going to watch most of these sessions or probably we'll try,
[03:44.060 -> 03:47.760] but let's get into free money Friday. We got to kick it off there man. It's been so long
[03:48.440 -> 03:53.220] What's what's something you've been eyeing? I know we've talked about it actually and I think I actually tailed it already
[03:53.240 -> 03:55.240] So yeah, we've got a couple
[03:55.520 -> 03:57.920] Some good plus odds, which is nice for a change
[03:57.920 -> 04:01.600] You don't really have to go out of your way and spend some money on you know, some
[04:02.320 -> 04:03.520] FB1
[04:03.520 -> 04:08.320] shenanigans First play this jumped out to me was Lando top 3
[04:09.200 -> 04:14.400] that's priced at plus 160. I think it's good anywhere from 165 to 160.
[04:17.440 -> 04:22.720] Hungry was really good for McLaren and the car setup they have right now just in general
[04:23.280 -> 04:33.440] and they really seem like the second fastest car on the grid. So a post 165 it's kind of you know it's
[04:33.440 -> 04:39.400] practice so of course treat it like practice but with McLaren and the
[04:39.400 -> 04:44.420] results he had at Hungary and that car I got in a shame in it. We're gonna go
[04:44.420 -> 04:48.240] it's like a unit and a quarter. I think to win over that bounces out
[04:49.040 -> 04:53.980] And then the nice little hedge I saw George Russell top three you can get a plus 500
[04:56.100 -> 05:03.880] Mercedes has been tricky in practice. They will look dead the entire time and then with two minutes left here comes, you know
[05:04.480 -> 05:08.000] Russell Lewis and Russell wanted to on some sauce and just blow
[05:08.000 -> 05:10.940] everybody out. But he had Russell had some really good
[05:10.940 -> 05:13.920] success here last year. So kind of just piggybacking off of that
[05:13.920 -> 05:17.360] and trying to get some magic with a plus 500. You can put
[05:17.360 -> 05:20.040] like point two on there and get your unit back if Lando doesn't
[05:20.040 -> 05:24.800] have I mean, but you know, Lando, Lando, Russell, two,
[05:24.800 -> 05:25.720] three, we're looking real good
[05:26.800 -> 05:28.800] Yeah
[05:29.160 -> 05:33.240] No, yeah, but head to head wise I like the I like the Ocon
[05:33.800 -> 05:40.540] Of a ghastly it's not really a track that gas has had the best success in Ocon's just kind of been Ocon
[05:41.760 -> 05:43.760] It's been kind of hard to find
[05:44.360 -> 05:49.080] Previous if he wants really both have either finished or ran this year
[05:49.800 -> 05:52.000] But when they do Ocons had a slight advantage over
[05:52.680 -> 05:54.680] pretty good advantages actually
[05:55.120 -> 05:59.040] Right now that's a minus 135. So feel good about that one as well
[05:59.040 -> 06:03.600] I'm not gonna go too heavy on it, you know still practice, but yeah
[06:03.600 -> 06:06.880] It's not not really impressed with Pierre's performances
[06:06.880 -> 06:09.080] here in the past and Ocon's done fairly well.
[06:09.080 -> 06:12.160] So pretty good, pretty confident about that one.
[06:12.160 -> 06:13.720] I like that.
[06:13.720 -> 06:15.720] Yeah, and I think the Ocon,
[06:17.360 -> 06:18.560] do you want to say DraftKings?
[06:18.560 -> 06:19.760] I don't know if all of KMB,
[06:19.760 -> 06:21.420] but DraftKings, I saw that last night,
[06:21.420 -> 06:23.720] was around minus 145 for that.
[06:23.720 -> 06:24.560] I got a 135.
[06:24.560 -> 06:25.980] Is it 135?
[06:25.980 -> 06:26.820] Okay.
[06:27.920 -> 06:30.020] But yeah, I want to go back to the Russell.
[06:30.020 -> 06:32.000] That's one of my favorites.
[06:32.000 -> 06:34.740] That's definitely, you know what is funny is
[06:35.760 -> 06:38.480] that has been at six to one most of the year
[06:38.480 -> 06:42.520] until they actually, like you said in that trend,
[06:42.520 -> 06:44.940] they will do their long stint run in the beginning.
[06:44.940 -> 06:45.800] You'll see them.
[06:45.800 -> 06:49.040] And they even did this last year at the Dutch GP.
[06:49.040 -> 06:52.480] They did like 18 laps on hards before they said,
[06:52.480 -> 06:54.140] all right, we're going to slap on the softs
[06:54.140 -> 06:56.380] and last like two minutes
[06:56.380 -> 06:58.240] before they took the top of the time.
[06:58.240 -> 07:00.860] And they've been doing that over and over again
[07:00.860 -> 07:03.240] in just about most of these practice sessions.
[07:03.240 -> 07:06.320] So five to one definitely.
[07:06.600 -> 07:06.960] Yeah.
[07:07.160 -> 07:08.120] It is a nice number.
[07:08.120 -> 07:09.400] He pulled a, he pulled a P one here.
[07:09.480 -> 07:13.400] Um, if he won last year, um, to get a couple of top threes as well.
[07:13.400 -> 07:14.520] So, yeah.
[07:14.520 -> 07:17.760] And it's like four to one on some books, even for that top
[07:17.760 -> 07:19.720] three, Lewis Hamilton is three to one.
[07:20.040 -> 07:27.520] So I get why they may be, uh, like bearish on Russell because he has been kind of finicky
[07:27.520 -> 07:33.360] with the car this year, at least, but it still doesn't justify that he has those long odds,
[07:33.360 -> 07:39.760] right. For a top three, we're talking about top three too. So yeah, knowing that strategy.
[07:39.760 -> 07:47.640] So definitely something, uh, I definitely love that. And,. And the Landon Norris play, which I do want to get Renegade's input
[07:47.640 -> 07:49.280] on McLaren here in a second,
[07:49.280 -> 07:52.840] but Norris top three, right?
[07:52.840 -> 07:56.200] I mean, how many times have we seen him just top the chart
[07:56.200 -> 07:58.840] at some point in all, in these FP sessions,
[07:58.840 -> 08:01.820] especially here recently with the car, the way it is.
[08:01.820 -> 08:04.380] This car should suit them well.
[08:07.720 -> 08:09.060] It is a low, higher downforce track.
[08:10.280 -> 08:12.080] You drag efficiency. Isn't going to be as big of a concern.
[08:12.080 -> 08:16.320] I know that they're, they struggle on the straights, but I don't think this straight
[08:16.320 -> 08:20.520] is going to be something that will hinder them as much as like, or I want to say last
[08:20.520 -> 08:24.800] week, but the last race where the spa has just had a bunch of just straights, um,
[08:24.800 -> 08:25.960] where it was going to kill him.
[08:25.960 -> 08:31.120] So and even in his like shitbox he had last year, did fairly well.
[08:31.120 -> 08:33.080] That's some fives and fours.
[08:33.080 -> 08:34.080] So not terrible.
[08:34.080 -> 08:36.800] Yeah, yeah, no, no, it's not terrible.
[08:36.800 -> 08:44.120] But yeah, Renegade, before we get to a pick, what are your thoughts on the McLaren this
[08:44.120 -> 08:45.600] weekend? What do you think they're going to do?
[08:47.120 -> 08:53.360] I think they should be much, much better than Spa. I don't know what happened there.
[08:54.400 -> 09:01.040] I mean, how can you get that wrong that somehow like passes are overtaking you,
[09:01.040 -> 09:05.320] you're on the hard tires. I mean, that was a disaster.
[09:08.520 -> 09:10.000] It would have been interesting to see what he actually would have done because he looked a bit stronger that weekend.
[09:10.760 -> 09:11.480] But yeah.
[09:12.120 -> 09:12.520] Oh yeah.
[09:12.520 -> 09:13.040] That's right.
[09:13.200 -> 09:13.360] Yeah.
[09:13.360 -> 09:14.200] I forgot about that.
[09:14.200 -> 09:17.960] He had the, he, he just turned into a, on turn one.
[09:18.000 -> 09:18.440] That's right.
[09:18.480 -> 09:18.720] Yeah.
[09:18.720 -> 09:19.320] I forgot about that.
[09:21.360 -> 09:25.000] But they've done well at Silverstone, at Austria, at Hungary.
[09:26.360 -> 09:28.560] I mean, they're different enough tracks
[09:28.560 -> 09:31.240] and this should be one that suits them the most.
[09:31.240 -> 09:32.060] Yeah.
[09:32.060 -> 09:34.280] So they should be having a good weekend.
[09:34.280 -> 09:36.040] Give me that confidence, baby.
[09:36.040 -> 09:37.460] Give me that confidence.
[09:37.460 -> 09:39.740] Yeah, no, I like that.
[09:41.320 -> 09:45.280] Cool, well, so we got one free money Friday out of the way.
[09:45.880 -> 09:48.560] Do you have a free money Friday by chance or no?
[09:50.240 -> 09:51.080] Uh, no.
[09:53.640 -> 09:58.840] Okay. Yeah. Yeah. This guy is dialed in. All right. So tell me what,
[09:58.840 -> 10:02.120] uh, what you got, what do you got for this week and what's your favorite?
[10:04.000 -> 10:08.560] Uh, so I've got already some bets out.
[10:08.560 -> 10:16.680] Just I think double Mercedes, double top six Mercedes is pretty good.
[10:16.680 -> 10:24.640] Mercedes did quite well at Hungary and it's a similar, quite similar track, just a bit
[10:24.640 -> 10:28.000] slopes and stuff like that, and banking.
[10:28.000 -> 10:38.000] And yeah, I think that's a good shot. But I think one nearer the race is if George Russell doesn't qualify well,
[10:38.000 -> 10:51.280] or like Declare is in front of Hamilton, because this is a very high tyre stress race. I want to get a car that's good on its tyres
[10:51.280 -> 10:56.320] ahead of a car not good at its tyres so maybe Russell with a sign, something like that.
[10:59.120 -> 11:06.000] And I think even I was looking at a parlay for Hamilton to beat Russell and the fair to be signs because
[11:06.000 -> 11:09.960] they're both much better than their teammates at time management.
[11:09.960 -> 11:15.720] And I think like especially at this track that will help a lot.
[11:15.720 -> 11:17.400] Yeah, no.
[11:17.400 -> 11:21.480] Yeah, this it's this is fun this weekend.
[11:21.480 -> 11:27.820] And I'm kind of pissed I'm not going to be here for this weekend too, because we literally just had a track
[11:27.820 -> 11:33.020] that has very similar characteristics, two races ago.
[11:33.020 -> 11:37.540] So we have a very good benchmark on a lot of these cars going into this race.
[11:37.540 -> 11:41.140] We have an understanding what we're three fourths through the season.
[11:41.140 -> 11:50.780] We understand these teams with how they're going to operate with their tires and Mercedes just seems to always find, they always
[11:50.780 -> 11:53.900] have a way to preserve their tires.
[11:53.920 -> 11:55.000] They just always know.
[11:55.000 -> 11:57.140] We know that Ferrari tends to struggle.
[11:57.140 -> 12:01.100] We know that Haas tends to struggle and that's always proven week in week out.
[12:02.680 -> 12:06.080] And I actually love that play.
[12:06.080 -> 12:08.440] That's why I tailed it as soon as you brought it up,
[12:08.440 -> 12:11.160] especially at what it was, it's a plus 110
[12:11.160 -> 12:16.160] or wait for you, Renegade 2.1, I think it was 2.1.
[12:18.360 -> 12:21.360] So it was just an easy pick.
[12:21.360 -> 12:23.880] It was easy for me to just say, oh yeah,
[12:23.880 -> 12:25.920] this should definitely be
[12:25.920 -> 12:27.920] in their favor for Mercedes.
[12:27.920 -> 12:30.320] So yeah, I loved it.
[12:30.600 -> 12:32.720] So I tailed that too.
[12:33.920 -> 12:34.880] I love it.
[12:35.360 -> 12:37.280] I just really enjoyed Russell on that one.
[12:37.400 -> 12:39.360] Just hope he can get a decent qualifier.
[12:39.360 -> 12:40.960] I mean, he.
[12:41.440 -> 12:46.700] It's interesting because everything has flipped this year a little bit because last
[12:46.700 -> 12:52.680] year Hamilton was struggling with the W 13 most of the year until he kind of found some
[12:52.680 -> 12:56.680] form Russell seemed to be he seemed fine with that car.
[12:56.680 -> 13:02.520] Well, they hate they both hated it, but he seemed to adapt better to that car than this
[13:02.520 -> 13:03.520] year.
[13:03.520 -> 13:06.040] He seems to be struggling to adapt in certain sessions.
[13:06.340 -> 13:11.440] But then he puts in like some burner in FP three or or in qualifying.
[13:11.440 -> 13:16.240] He just just does a shitty lap, although I will say there's been a few times
[13:16.240 -> 13:19.880] there's I don't know, just traffic or something got in the way.
[13:21.680 -> 13:23.500] But yeah, he can't fuck up this one.
[13:23.500 -> 13:30.420] This is this is a track if they can just get it right, get the qualifying right, get in that top
[13:30.420 -> 13:36.080] six, be in the top five, you give yourself a chance to be second or third.
[13:36.080 -> 13:37.080] It's funny.
[13:37.080 -> 13:39.420] This is what we're talking about now, second or third place.
[13:39.420 -> 13:41.520] We already know who's going to get first place.
[13:41.520 -> 13:43.120] So come on.
[13:43.120 -> 13:44.120] Yeah, yeah.
[13:44.120 -> 13:45.120] Yeah. So on. Yeah. Yeah.
[13:47.440 -> 13:50.200] Yeah. So cool. Yeah. Well, let's get right into mine.
[13:50.240 -> 13:54.840] I think my pick, I will start with a free money Friday.
[13:55.280 -> 13:58.920] So full disclosure, I did tell Tegrity's.
[13:58.920 -> 14:02.760] I mean, that I think we're all kind of in that, you know,
[14:02.760 -> 14:04.120] we're at towards the end of season.
[14:04.120 -> 14:08.920] We're all aligned on a lot of these plays that those were two that I could I did as
[14:08.920 -> 14:14.080] well, which was the top three Norris and the top three again.
[14:14.080 -> 14:17.280] I'm just when I do those, I did the same thing, right?
[14:17.280 -> 14:18.280] Just about.
[14:18.280 -> 14:23.600] I think I did a quarter unit on what's it called on Russell Russell, though.
[14:23.600 -> 14:24.600] Yeah.
[14:24.600 -> 14:27.160] As I was scoping the lines, Bavada gave us some gifts.
[14:27.400 -> 14:29.960] They give us some non teammate head to head.
[14:30.560 -> 14:33.200] There was a few out there which I would love to talk to you guys about.
[14:33.200 -> 14:38.840] But the one that caught my attention, this one is fun for me.
[14:39.080 -> 14:41.160] At least I may be sweating it.
[14:41.920 -> 14:45.120] Probably won't be sweating it because I'll be asleep.
[14:48.480 -> 14:49.600] Charles Leclerc over Sergio Perez.
[14:56.880 -> 14:58.240] Fp1 minus 110, one point nine for I think I did about.
[15:01.840 -> 15:03.200] Order seventy five point seventy five units, so.
[15:06.240 -> 15:07.360] I guess my rationale is, is forget about the race. Forget about sprint races.
[15:07.520 -> 15:11.000] I removed all that when I was just looking at the past three races.
[15:11.800 -> 15:19.720] And basically LeClaire has beaten Perez in every FP session, every qualifying
[15:19.720 -> 15:24.840] sprint qualifying session, about 68% of the times in the last three race last
[15:24.840 -> 15:26.400] year in the Dutch GP,
[15:26.400 -> 15:32.000] he beat him five out of the six sessions. Again, I'm not worried about the race. I'm just worried
[15:32.000 -> 15:40.480] about will he win an FP one? I just found it very hard to believe that the odds should be that way.
[15:40.480 -> 15:50.220] I guess the only reason why is because he's in a Red Bull. And what has given me confidence to say Perez is going to be, you know, topping the charts in FP. He hasn't
[15:50.220 -> 15:57.560] shown that if anything, Norris has shown that more than Perez. So I, I shamed myself into
[15:57.560 -> 16:03.400] taking it. I took it. I felt really good about it. And I actually kind of talked myself into
[16:03.400 -> 16:08.520] it more just saying this, if this hits, I'm gonna be way more upset
[16:08.520 -> 16:12.120] than I would be if it didn't hit and I was backing it.
[16:12.120 -> 16:13.920] So talked myself into it.
[16:14.840 -> 16:16.280] I did it.
[16:16.280 -> 16:19.420] So also Canby, I did see,
[16:20.980 -> 16:31.000] they had it priced at Leclerc minus 122 actually on Camby. So, I thought there's a little value to it. What do you guys think?
[16:31.000 -> 16:39.000] Yeah, I don't hate it. I mean, Charles has been quick all year. It's just the longevity of that car that kills him every single time.
[16:39.000 -> 16:45.120] But when it comes to qualifying and FP sessions, he's right up there with anybody.
[16:45.120 -> 16:50.080] Also we found out today Carlos is not running.
[16:50.080 -> 16:52.280] They might want something more to Charles early.
[16:52.280 -> 16:56.200] Because you know the rookie is just going to cruise around and try to get his feet wet.
[16:56.200 -> 16:58.120] So they might want to push Charles a little bit.
[16:58.120 -> 17:00.520] Yeah, makes a lot of sense.
[17:00.520 -> 17:01.520] Yeah.
[17:01.520 -> 17:03.640] Renegade, I know you, you my therapist.
[17:03.640 -> 17:04.640] F1 therapist.
[17:04.640 -> 17:05.000] I know, I like you, you my therapist, F1 therapist.
[17:05.000 -> 17:06.240] I know I like it.
[17:06.240 -> 17:11.360] I like it. We know Perez doesn't do anything most of the time in pre-practice run.
[17:11.920 -> 17:12.960] I like it.
[17:14.160 -> 17:16.840] That means if we all like it, it's not going to hit. Boom.
[17:18.680 -> 17:21.240] No, there is actually really some some good ones.
[17:21.240 -> 17:26.520] Before we get into any other ones, I would love to pick y'all's brain on a few of them
[17:26.520 -> 17:30.060] because I could not stop noodling about these.
[17:31.640 -> 17:35.680] Specifically, this one was Lance Stroll,
[17:35.680 -> 17:39.120] and this is FP1, by the way, Lance Stroll, Esteban Ocon,
[17:39.120 -> 17:43.460] minus 115, I believe MGM also has that same play.
[17:44.840 -> 17:47.100] Yeah, but there's this minus 120 each.
[17:48.400 -> 17:51.100] And then can be actually had.
[17:52.600 -> 17:57.500] Stroll at minus 127 over Pierre Gasly minus 109.
[17:57.500 -> 17:59.500] What do you guys think about that one?
[18:01.000 -> 18:01.700] What's that?
[18:03.100 -> 18:06.400] With that stroller both Alpines pretty much?
[18:06.400 -> 18:10.560] Yeah, pretty much stroll over Alpines in FP1 session.
[18:10.560 -> 18:12.920] Why stroll?
[18:12.920 -> 18:14.760] I don't know.
[18:14.760 -> 18:18.680] I just, I got excited.
[18:18.680 -> 18:22.680] I just went to Bovado last night when I was logging in.
[18:22.680 -> 18:23.760] I was like, what the hell?
[18:23.760 -> 18:25.040] We have non-teammate
[18:25.040 -> 18:30.880] head-to-head and it's a Tuesday like I'm not used to that so that was just one that popped up and I
[18:30.880 -> 18:38.800] was just curious I'm not taking it I've kind of had interest for a little bit but just curious
[18:38.800 -> 18:46.320] just wanted to see what you against Ocon I'd say because he doesn't really keep watching FP1 either does he?
[18:46.320 -> 18:47.320] He does more than Gasly.
[18:47.320 -> 18:48.320] He does.
[18:48.320 -> 18:49.320] He does.
[18:49.320 -> 18:52.040] He could do Gasly over Ocon.
[18:52.040 -> 18:55.040] Because I think yeah, Asvani, okay.
[18:55.040 -> 18:58.000] Well, let's go to another one then very quickly.
[18:58.000 -> 19:03.080] Russell even money over Piastri who's minus 130.
[19:03.080 -> 19:05.840] That was tough
[19:06.400 -> 19:09.160] I don't know. I mean Oscars just look so strong and they're both
[19:09.840 -> 19:12.040] Like I think those are like probably my two
[19:12.600 -> 19:15.840] Two three like two three teams to be watching for the weekend
[19:16.400 -> 19:22.220] So it's kind of hard to pick one over the other because it's almost like a coin flip who's gonna run the best that day
[19:22.920 -> 19:24.680] um, I
[19:24.680 -> 19:27.080] Wouldn't bet any money on it.
[19:27.080 -> 19:28.260] I'm not touching it.
[19:28.260 -> 19:31.780] That's why I'm going through this round table.
[19:31.780 -> 19:34.740] Renegade, do you have any opinions?
[19:34.740 -> 19:35.580] No, I agree.
[19:35.580 -> 19:38.140] It's just a coin flip that one.
[19:38.140 -> 19:38.980] Yeah.
[19:38.980 -> 19:39.820] Yeah, yeah.
[19:39.820 -> 19:40.640] Okay.
[19:40.640 -> 19:41.480] I'll say with the Master Martin,
[19:41.480 -> 19:43.980] I believe they're doing some more tinkering
[19:43.980 -> 19:44.980] with the front wing,
[19:44.980 -> 19:46.800] so they might not be going too hard
[19:47.440 -> 19:48.920] Okay
[19:48.920 -> 19:50.920] Well, how about this then?
[19:51.760 -> 19:58.420] Lando Norris Hamilton fp1 again. These are all fp1 minus 115
[20:02.100 -> 20:03.540] I don't know. It's back on the coin flip.
[20:05.940 -> 20:07.300] I do. I'd like to have a better number than that.
[20:08.000 -> 20:09.200] No, I was. I have this idea.
[20:09.200 -> 20:09.640] What's the.
[20:09.640 -> 20:10.340] Both one.
[20:10.340 -> 20:11.540] They're both minus 115.
[20:11.540 -> 20:12.380] Oh, like a pick them.
[20:12.380 -> 20:16.240] Now, it's basically basically you're just going to give the books juice.
[20:16.600 -> 20:17.400] Yeah.
[20:17.940 -> 20:20.300] Now, I feel like you just got to get lucky, pick the right one.
[20:20.440 -> 20:22.680] I don't really think there's a strategy behind that.
[20:23.080 -> 20:24.540] OK. OK.
[20:24.540 -> 20:30.560] Well, that's enough. FB1 for one for one segment. Let's let's move on let's talk qualifying
[20:30.960 -> 20:34.100] Yeah, let's talk a little qualifying. I don't have any qualifying
[20:35.020 -> 20:37.020] pics or anything like that, but
[20:38.980 -> 20:46.440] Yeah, let's let's let's see let's see you let's go with your next pick. Let's go with your next place. So you go Chris
[20:47.440 -> 20:53.280] For qualifying. I got nothing. I mean, it's not or just anything race race, whatever. Um, I
[20:53.960 -> 20:56.400] Don't know. I mean, I really like renegades double
[20:57.200 -> 21:01.400] The Mercedes top six. It's good. Um, it's a good one. I
[21:02.880 -> 21:07.200] Think really it's gonna come down to trying to find some head to heads because
[21:07.200 -> 21:09.560] there's really just not much here.
[21:09.560 -> 21:11.720] The books are just, I mean, we're halfway through.
[21:11.720 -> 21:13.960] There's just not too much value.
[21:13.960 -> 21:17.360] I mean, if you liked a double Aston, I think they had a good number.
[21:17.360 -> 21:20.520] Yeah, actually, that was one of them I played.
[21:20.520 -> 21:23.520] I don't think that's a bad one.
[21:23.520 -> 21:26.200] Like, I can't expect, like, I don't really think's a bad one. I can't expect like I don't normally think.
[21:27.480 -> 21:31.580] Alpine should be as much a threat alpha, they're not going to do anything.
[21:33.880 -> 21:37.740] Unless Nico comes up to his old tricks at Hoss, you know, probably should.
[21:37.980 -> 21:41.040] Well, so Hoss has I mean, don't get me.
[21:41.140 -> 21:43.780] I'm not saying they're going to do anything in the race, but.
[21:44.680 -> 21:47.040] They do have upgrades coming.
[21:47.040 -> 21:49.800] So I would be very interested to see do those upgrades
[21:49.800 -> 21:52.300] actually do anything to their tire dag?
[21:52.540 -> 21:54.900] Yeah, I don't care about their performance because.
[21:55.700 -> 21:58.740] I said, oh, that's like getting like a fake carbon filter on your car.
[21:58.740 -> 22:02.400] I don't know. Maybe, maybe they also, they just put it
[22:02.400 -> 22:05.440] like extra treads on the tires or something.
[22:05.440 -> 22:08.040] I have no idea. Yeah, I don't know.
[22:08.040 -> 22:09.940] I mean, interesting to see what could upgrade.
[22:09.940 -> 22:12.540] I figure they'd be done already. Yeah.
[22:13.440 -> 22:15.400] No, I I think that.
[22:17.500 -> 22:21.200] I think what we're well, it sounds like there's a consensus here
[22:21.200 -> 22:24.000] that we're saying, obviously, we know Max, number one.
[22:24.940 -> 22:26.720] But then you have McLaren
[22:28.000 -> 22:33.120] McLaren and Mercedes basically in that top tier maybe Mercedes with an edge we'll see what you
[22:33.120 -> 22:43.440] both think and then Aston Martin Ferrari I think Ferrari would be Aston Martin really because it
[22:43.440 -> 22:46.880] takes a lot to suddenly go backwards and then go forward
[22:47.520 -> 22:50.240] and then everyone else is standing still. But in the race.
[22:50.240 -> 22:53.200] In the race. Yeah in the race.
[22:54.960 -> 22:57.840] I don't know. We're expecting his tires to fall off pretty fast right?
[22:59.120 -> 23:02.960] Ferrari finished seventh. I mean hungry.
[23:04.000 -> 23:05.160] Here's the way I put it.
[23:06.360 -> 23:09.400] Ferrari and Aston Martin are kind of in their own tier right now.
[23:10.440 -> 23:16.840] And if you can get good odds for both to be within the top 10, meaning
[23:16.840 -> 23:21.780] like they're plus odds, I think that starts becoming some true value.
[23:21.780 -> 23:26.840] That's obviously kind of also depends on the track, but it becomes true value.
[23:26.840 -> 23:29.880] I mean, we did that, what, one of the races, last race,
[23:29.880 -> 23:33.360] right, Ferrari top 10 was like plus 135
[23:33.360 -> 23:35.100] or something ridiculous.
[23:36.560 -> 23:38.240] I think that was the last one.
[23:38.240 -> 23:41.080] Or was it, well, this race, now, this race,
[23:43.160 -> 23:48.640] we did, at least, you did, did you do that too, Ren to renegade because I did the top 10 I did top 10
[23:50.360 -> 23:56.240] Yeah, and it moved right as soon as we did it see look what we did we just moved the books man, yeah
[23:57.480 -> 23:59.480] but
[24:00.400 -> 24:08.000] Yeah, I think the but also B, Bavada has Stroll top 10, minus 150.
[24:08.000 -> 24:14.760] I mean, I don't know if you want to take that.
[24:14.760 -> 24:19.040] You could take Russell minus 150 top 6.
[24:19.040 -> 24:31.680] Those are some plays you can consider. I also was seeing that with the Haas teammate head to head that
[24:31.680 -> 24:38.060] Magnussen is quite a bit shorter and I think it's because Hulkenberg hasn't done this track
[24:38.060 -> 24:49.160] before. So I'd still take Hulkenberg because Yeah, I was looking for about tires that has it's gonna is that for a really tired at the end
[24:49.320 -> 24:51.960] Is that for the ring both racing qualifying?
[24:53.480 -> 25:01.320] Yeah, because I see lights lights out f1 has Hulkenberg over Magnuson qualifying qualifying. Mm-hmm
[25:01.400 -> 25:03.400] minus 180 twos
[25:04.200 -> 25:08.260] Yeah, and then let's I'm just going down the list here
[25:08.920 -> 25:10.280] CG
[25:10.280 -> 25:13.640] Jen Christian, maybe he has something with that
[25:14.320 -> 25:16.320] He has a parlay
[25:17.120 -> 25:24.120] He has for stappan over Perez and Hulkenberg over Magnuson for the race. Oh, no qualifying
[25:25.000 -> 25:27.960] Parlay, so he has a parlay. So yeah
[25:29.600 -> 25:31.600] There's
[25:34.920 -> 25:39.640] Yeah, I don't know how Holkenberg is gonna do here although this type of track though
[25:39.960 -> 25:44.000] It's actually a pretty fun track. I don't know if you ever
[25:42.000 -> 25:46.600] It's actually a pretty fun track. I don't know if you ever picked it up on the Sam and just
[25:46.600 -> 25:48.200] Well, that's when I wrote it on the Sam.
[25:48.200 -> 25:49.600] It's actually a lot of fun.
[25:49.600 -> 25:53.800] It's not hard to kind of get adapted to.
[25:54.700 -> 25:59.300] So I can only imagine if you're a seasoned F1 driver like a
[25:59.300 -> 26:01.200] Hulkenberg, it shouldn't take them long.
[26:01.200 -> 26:08.400] The problem is going to be is the few issues you will see this weekend are the wind.
[26:09.280 -> 26:14.240] That's always going to be a factor there because it's right off the freaking ocean or is it ocean
[26:14.240 -> 26:15.440] sea wherever.
[26:15.440 -> 26:16.000] Yeah.
[26:16.000 -> 26:16.720] Yeah.
[26:16.720 -> 26:22.080] So it's it's just going to the winds are just going to be coming from all over the place.
[26:23.520 -> 26:26.560] And that's going to definitely disrupt a lot of the cars out there.
[26:27.040 -> 26:30.360] Then you have the dust, the sand and the dirt that's going to hit the track.
[26:30.960 -> 26:33.000] Well, what's that?
[26:33.000 -> 26:35.040] Layers. Yeah.
[26:35.680 -> 26:36.840] Orange flares.
[26:36.840 -> 26:39.440] Yeah, it's just basically traction is going to be tough.
[26:40.720 -> 26:44.080] And what do we think about Red Bull fastest pit stop?
[26:44.280 -> 26:48.160] Minus 120. Oh, I'm glad you brought that up because I mean we're not
[26:48.440 -> 26:53.100] Max is not gonna have a 40-second lead. So I think I mean they are the best pit crew
[26:53.100 -> 26:56.520] It's not like they can just take their time got to be a little quick this time
[26:57.080 -> 26:59.800] Here's a price pick play for you
[27:00.640 -> 27:04.040] By lights out f1. He has price pick pit stops
[27:05.040 -> 27:07.560] Russell over 2.95 seconds
[27:08.200 -> 27:12.520] Hulkenberg over 3.2 seconds. Damn, I know
[27:13.680 -> 27:16.840] Ricardo under 2.85 seconds
[27:17.760 -> 27:19.760] so he
[27:19.760 -> 27:26.040] He he likes that over on that. Damn it. I mean,, I trust everything he does on those pickums.
[27:26.040 -> 27:28.880] He's lights out with those pickums.
[27:28.880 -> 27:30.120] That's why he's lights out.
[27:31.440 -> 27:34.400] Yeah, so he has, I don't know about that.
[27:34.400 -> 27:38.120] I'm not gonna even try to handicap pit stops.
[27:38.120 -> 27:39.560] That's lights out.
[27:39.560 -> 27:40.400] That's all I am.
[27:40.400 -> 27:42.080] Yeah, it sounds like, I mean,
[27:42.080 -> 27:43.680] it makes sense in theory, I guess.
[27:43.680 -> 27:46.880] They are the best crew not gonna have the yeah
[27:46.880 -> 27:48.880] I'm not sit around and wait
[27:49.720 -> 27:54.540] Yeah, max wanted to pull in to get some pit stop practice the other day the race probably
[27:55.520 -> 27:57.800] Probably. Well, I know we're we're
[27:59.400 -> 28:04.000] Trying to wrap up here. So let's go one more time see what
[28:07.320 -> 28:12.640] wrap up here. So let's go one more time. See what we didn't even really fully talk about in our second play. So let's just round table quickly. What do you have for as a second
[28:12.640 -> 28:18.640] play? Nothing. Maybe I guess. Yeah, I think I'm going to go. I know you have some talk
[28:18.640 -> 28:24.000] about the Joseph New Garden. Oh, that's the one you need to play. You need to talk about
[28:24.000 -> 28:27.160] right now. Yeah. Unfortunately, we haven't got the Indy yards
[28:27.720 -> 28:30.340] India yet or I'd already have in the book
[28:30.680 -> 28:36.800] But yeah, Max for stopping parlayed with a Joseph New Garden. That's like my favorite play of the weekend
[28:36.800 -> 28:40.480] Probably we got the f1 god with the IndyCar oval God
[28:42.000 -> 28:45.380] It doesn't get any better a hit last not much else to say
[28:45.380 -> 28:50.480] Yeah, it's very easily last time paid out very well, too. So for anyone that's not
[28:51.000 -> 28:54.320] That's never followed up or IndyCar or anything like that
[28:55.000 -> 29:00.320] IndyCar is doing their oval short oval race this weekend
[29:00.320 -> 29:03.600] it's one of the three or four that they have on the calendar and
[29:04.880 -> 29:05.900] The Penske
[29:05.900 -> 29:14.960] car has dominated in ovals. Joseph New Garden specifically has been the king of ovals. The
[29:14.960 -> 29:19.940] last time we had an oval race, which was about a month ago, we all decided, hey, let's just
[29:19.940 -> 29:26.240] parlay Max with Joseph New Garden this weekend. We all did it. It hit, it was sweat free.
[29:26.240 -> 29:27.080] Wet free.
[29:27.080 -> 29:27.920] Yeah, it was so easy.
[29:27.920 -> 29:29.000] It was easy.
[29:29.000 -> 29:31.040] So we're just gonna run it back.
[29:31.040 -> 29:34.560] If you wanna try to tail, look for IndyCar,
[29:34.560 -> 29:39.560] Joseph Newgarden, winner, parlay it with max winner,
[29:39.800 -> 29:40.800] and that's it.
[29:40.800 -> 29:44.200] Yep, basically turns your minus 300 max bet
[29:44.200 -> 29:47.040] to like almost damn near positive.
[29:47.040 -> 29:48.600] Yeah. So great.
[29:48.600 -> 29:49.440] There you go.
[29:49.440 -> 29:50.480] That's the perfect one.
[29:50.480 -> 29:51.320] I like it.
[29:51.320 -> 29:54.760] Renegade, you have another play I'm sure.
[29:55.760 -> 29:56.600] I do.
[29:58.160 -> 30:00.800] One thing that I like to do every race now,
[30:00.800 -> 30:04.720] nearly, is like max fastest qualifier,
[30:04.720 -> 30:08.840] fastest lap and race win. So here I'll give it that
[30:08.840 -> 30:18.400] he could be outqualified but if you like the M3 it's plus 175. You can take just race win
[30:18.400 -> 30:25.600] and fastest lap which is around minus 120. He's going to get fastest lag and he's going to get the race win.
[30:26.240 -> 30:34.000] The only way it can't happen is DNF, so like at Spa, Sainz and PSG took each other out,
[30:34.720 -> 30:39.600] massive gap, Norris was doing something else and finished behind Alonso. Like,
[30:40.480 -> 30:47.480] they're quite well equally spread out, the top 10. So there shouldn't be any pit window
[30:47.480 -> 30:50.120] or anything crazy like that.
[30:50.120 -> 30:53.280] So, and Max likes, I'm sure in his head,
[30:53.280 -> 30:56.160] there's something about records or fastest lap.
[30:56.160 -> 30:57.760] This is home Grand Prix.
[30:57.760 -> 31:00.280] He's gonna try and get all three.
[31:00.280 -> 31:01.960] So that's what I like.
[31:01.960 -> 31:04.400] Yeah, you know, I'm gonna try.
[31:04.400 -> 31:05.000] Makes a lot of sense. It does,, I'm getting a lot of sense.
[31:05.000 -> 31:06.000] It does. It does.
[31:06.000 -> 31:07.000] It's a lot of sense.
[31:07.000 -> 31:08.000] It does, man.
[31:08.000 -> 31:09.000] It does.
[31:09.000 -> 31:12.000] As for me, I already called it out.
[31:12.000 -> 31:13.000] I'm just doing right now.
[31:13.000 -> 31:19.000] The Aston Martin top 10, both Aston Martin and the top 10,
[31:19.000 -> 31:24.000] just waiting for stroll to basically disappoint and make me cry this
[31:24.000 -> 31:25.600] weekend. But honestly, that was the first one that glared at me. Just waiting for stroll to basically disappoint and make me cry this weekend
[31:27.440 -> 31:31.440] but Honestly, that was the first one that glared at me. I thought there was a little value to it and
[31:32.000 -> 31:38.560] I think it was the last seven races. I think stroll has been in the top ten
[31:39.240 -> 31:45.000] What five out of the seven so I'm okay with that. It's worth the risk, especially with the track like this
[31:45.560 -> 31:49.560] They do have a draggy car, but it shouldn't matter as much to here
[31:50.400 -> 31:56.840] Braking is gonna be very critical at this track. They seem to have a car. That's pretty generally good with braking. So
[31:58.040 -> 32:03.720] I'm gonna just basically ride that top ten as far as what I will do this weekend
[32:03.800 -> 32:07.120] We'll see I'm hoping to capture some data points.
[32:07.120 -> 32:14.080] I definitely would like to attack the head-to-head market on Sunday, for Sunday that is. But as of
[32:14.080 -> 32:19.280] right now, that's really all I had. Let's just take it easy, see what the news gives us. And I
[32:19.280 -> 32:35.200] don't even know what the latest weather report is. So we've been hearing rain hearing that it's going to be clear either way prepare yourselves it's race week guys any last comments no no yeah I think
[32:35.200 -> 32:41.200] the weather is like a 35 percent 40 percent that no one ever knows yeah yeah well I hope
[32:41.200 -> 32:47.040] yeah well I don't think we I think it's been since may, since we've had no rain,
[32:47.480 -> 32:53.480] I think lights lights said we've had seven races or the past seven
[32:53.480 -> 32:55.400] races with weather implications.
[32:55.960 -> 32:58.120] Isn't that crazy every week?
[32:58.560 -> 33:00.840] Like, what are we going to do?
[33:00.840 -> 33:01.780] How can we do this?
[33:01.780 -> 33:03.120] Whatever, but yep.
[33:03.400 -> 33:09.300] Looking forward to it, but I will see you guys probably after the weekend
[33:09.300 -> 33:11.600] because I will be in Daytona
[33:12.780 -> 33:14.800] watching NASCAR out of all things.
[33:14.800 -> 33:16.040] Yeah, show off the Mohawk, yeah.
[33:16.040 -> 33:17.520] Yeah, yeah, you know.
[33:17.520 -> 33:19.240] Got the lightning bolts on the side.
[33:19.240 -> 33:23.240] I'm built for speed, baby, built for speed.
[33:24.320 -> 33:26.080] All right, take it easy, guys.
[33:26.080 -> 33:27.280] See you. All right. See you.
[33:40.120 -> 33:42.120] you