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Fiesta de la Siesta, the mexican slumber party is what we like to call the 2022 Mexican GP. While this was a total snoozefest with almost no action, there was still always this hint of tension in the air with strategies.
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**Podcast Episode Summary**
**Episode Title:** Fiesta de la Siesta: The Mexican Slumber Party
**Hosts:** Akash and Sarang
**Key Points:**
* The Mexican Grand Prix was a snoozefest with almost no action, but there was still a hint of tension in the air with strategies.
* The Red Bull Cost Cap verdict resulted in a 7 million fine and reduced wind tunnel time for the team.
* Mercedes may sacrifice some prize money to stay in P3 and get more testing time.
* Christian Horner expressed his displeasure with the penalty, but it is significant and will affect Red Bull's development.
* The Sky Sports boycott by Red Bull and Max Verstappen was discussed, with Sarang and Akash finding it hilarious and a good way to deal with the media's perceived unfairness.
* The Mexican Grand Prix featured a unique and entertaining version of the F1 intro using traditional Mexican music.
* Daniel Ricciardo's aggressive move on Yuki Tsunoda resulted in a 10-second penalty, but it seemed to awaken his competitive spirit as he charged through the field.
* There was some debate about whether the penalty for Ricciardo's move was fair compared to the 5-second penalty given to George Russell for a T-bone collision on lap one.
* McLaren gave team orders to Lando Norris to let Daniel Ricciardo pass, which was a surprising but strategic move.
* The high altitude and thin air in Mexico City posed challenges for teams, requiring engine and cooling system upgrades.
* Fernando Alonso continued to have bad luck, suffering from car issues and engine breakdowns throughout the season.
* Alonso has been vocal on social media, criticizing Alpine and suggesting he could have gained 70 more points if not for the problems.
* Alonso also made controversial comments about Max Verstappen's championship being more deserving than Lewis Hamilton's, which sparked debate among the hosts.
* Statistical highlights from the race weekend were discussed, including Perez moving up to P2 in the WDC, Max Verstappen's record-breaking 14 race wins, and the midfield battle between Zhou, Vettel, and Ricciardo.
* The midfield battles were a highlight of the race, with Zhou showing impressive skill and holding his own against more experienced drivers.
**Overall Message:**
The Mexican Grand Prix was a boring race, but there were still some interesting storylines and controversies to discuss. The Red Bull Cost Cap penalty, Ricciardo's resurgence, Alonso's struggles, and the midfield battles were among the key topics covered in the podcast. ## Podcast Summary: Fiesta De La Siesta - A Snoozefest with Hints of Tension
**Key Points:**
- The 2022 Mexican Grand Prix, dubbed "Fiesta De La Siesta," was a dull race with minimal action.
- Despite the lack of excitement, there were still hints of tension surrounding strategies.
**Race Highlights:**
- Sergio Perez's father, Papa Perez, brought energy and enthusiasm to the event.
- An amusing meme depicting the fathers of Perez and Lewis Hamilton kissing in 2021 and 2022 went viral.
- Nicholas Latifi's consistent finishing in P20 was acknowledged as a unique achievement.
**Midfield Drama:**
- Pierre Gasly's accumulation of penalty points raised concerns about a potential race ban.
- A new racing rule penalizes drivers who gain an advantage by pushing opponents off the track.
- Gasly's decision to keep his position after an incident with Lance Stroll instead of giving it back drew criticism.
**Other Notable Moments:**
- The possibility of Antonio Giovinazzi joining the Audi factory team in 2024 was discussed.
- The hosts expressed hope for accidents, crashes, and drama in the remaining races to stir up controversy and gossip.
**Overall Message:**
The Mexican Grand Prix was a lackluster event, but the podcast highlighted various aspects that kept listeners engaged, including driver consistency, midfield drama, and the lighthearted camaraderie between the hosts.
[00:00.000 -> 00:03.000] I saw a really awesome meme about that.
[00:03.000 -> 00:09.000] 2021, Perez kissing Hamilton's dad.
[00:09.000 -> 00:13.000] 2022, Hamilton's dad kissing Perez's dad.
[00:13.000 -> 00:31.520] And 2023, when Dibuta kissing him. Oh, man.
[00:35.640 -> 00:38.000] This has been such a boring weekend, if you ask me, like it's been a snooze fest. It's a fiesta de la siesta.
[00:38.000 -> 00:41.040] Yeah, but Akash, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
[00:41.320 -> 00:46.960] I do agree somewhat, but let's not completely forget the really amazing
[00:46.960 -> 00:52.880] mariachi version of the f1 intro that we heard right we heard such an awesome new version of
[00:52.880 -> 00:59.360] the intro and then we got back the old daniel so you know that was not not all that bad uh we saw
[00:59.360 -> 01:06.400] the ghost of old daniel possessing the new one I guess going full mental as well as some
[01:06.400 -> 01:11.040] midfield battles right so all in all I think it's not that bad yeah I fell
[01:11.040 -> 01:18.240] asleep at parts but all in all I guess it was a as you call it fiesta de la
[01:18.240 -> 01:30.280] siesta snooze fest let's introduce ourselves welcome Welcome to F1 Fan Fiction, a show about race weekend reviews and community interviews.
[01:30.720 -> 01:31.920] We are your hosts.
[01:31.960 -> 01:32.840] I am Akash.
[01:33.280 -> 01:34.080] And I'm Sarang.
[01:34.400 -> 01:35.640] And let's get into it.
[01:36.160 -> 01:36.760] You know what?
[01:37.320 -> 01:40.320] There was truth to what you said, like it was a boring race.
[01:40.320 -> 01:44.640] So let's talk a little bit about something a bit more juicier that's been going around.
[01:45.000 -> 01:48.000] That's the verdict for the Red Bull Cost Cap.
[01:48.000 -> 01:50.000] Have you heard what's going on with that?
[01:50.000 -> 01:52.000] Oh yeah, true man.
[01:52.000 -> 01:59.000] There is one and it stirred quite a lot of controversy even after the verdict's been out.
[01:59.000 -> 02:06.800] Before we get into the verdict, right, like just a quick note on what a wind tunnel is. It's essentially a room with a model car
[02:07.600 -> 02:13.120] sitting in middle with a fan and an exhaust somewhere and as as the fan sort of starts
[02:13.120 -> 02:20.400] rotating it sort of sucks this gigantic amount of air simulating how the car is going to behave
[02:20.400 -> 02:25.160] on track once it's swerving through the track and teams get those.
[02:25.160 -> 02:28.880] For those who are confused just think about a Pringles can and you're blowing
[02:28.880 -> 02:32.600] air from one end and the car is in between. There you go there you go there
[02:32.600 -> 02:38.040] you go and team sort of get this stipulated amount of time based on their
[02:38.040 -> 02:42.000] position on the constructor table which goes in the reverse order so the last
[02:42.000 -> 02:47.480] team gets the maximum amount of time and then the first team gets the least amount of time for obvious
[02:47.480 -> 02:53.600] reasons. During these testings they get to sort of like play around you know
[02:53.600 -> 02:58.420] tweak and change and do so many things to sort of like then take it to the
[02:58.420 -> 03:02.920] final model along with computer simulations to see what would happen on
[03:02.920 -> 03:06.200] the final car as they build the car
[03:06.200 -> 03:11.760] for the next season. Now what's happened and Sarang please correct me if I'm
[03:11.760 -> 03:16.480] wrong here an audience if some numbers are off you know just just jump in and
[03:16.480 -> 03:20.640] call us out. Beyond like a 7 million fine which first of all I find very
[03:20.640 -> 03:26.380] oxymoronic that you know you're exactly you're fining someone
[03:26.380 -> 03:31.060] money for overspending money I'm like anyways that's that's beyond the point
[03:31.060 -> 03:35.460] that's FIA being FIA yeah it's like when you know when you know the person
[03:35.460 -> 03:39.180] committing the crime is rich might as well extract some money exactly that's
[03:39.180 -> 03:45.680] that's the deal what the other thing is they've gotten reduced wind tunnel time.
[03:45.680 -> 03:56.400] What this means is the teams that finish 8th, 9th and 10th receive sort of like a 5% and 10% and a 15% extra respectively time.
[03:56.400 -> 04:00.880] It's basically a progressive drop after that.
[04:00.880 -> 04:05.120] But basically this is how much extra time they get.
[04:05.120 -> 04:09.680] In other words, when Red Bull becomes the guaranteed which it already is, is
[04:09.680 -> 04:17.600] the 2022 World Champion, they will finish six places above the seventh. Six times
[04:17.600 -> 04:22.280] five percent which is almost 30 percent which means they would get 70 percent of
[04:22.280 -> 04:26.000] the seventh place team quota of 100%.
[04:26.000 -> 04:33.000] Now, if these numbers are getting confusing, think of it as if I give you 100 rupees or 100 dollars or whatever.
[04:33.000 -> 04:35.500] I really thought that I'm sitting in a math class right now.
[04:35.500 -> 04:36.500] It is, right? It is.
[04:36.500 -> 04:37.500] I almost fell asleep.
[04:37.500 -> 04:45.140] I'm not gonna lie. I had to read through these numbers like 3 or 4 times to just figure out the number of percentages that are there.
[04:45.140 -> 04:52.560] Think of it in this way, Williams assuming is going to get 368 wind tunnel runs, Red
[04:52.560 -> 04:57.800] Bull will only get 202 whereas Ferrari and Mercedes if they stay second and third so
[04:57.800 -> 05:02.640] far as they are, they are going to get 248, 256.
[05:02.640 -> 05:07.800] Now, now the question is it is only a difference of roughly 30 to 40 to
[05:07.800 -> 05:14.640] 50 hours depending on P2 and P3 but every hour can make significant
[05:14.640 -> 05:20.120] difference here. My question to you Sarang and to audience member here is my
[05:20.120 -> 05:25.760] first thought was Christian Honour is gonna say we've got Adrian Newey, we've got Hannah Schmidt.
[05:25.760 -> 05:27.760] Here's my middle finger, suck on it.
[05:29.520 -> 05:40.560] But it's 50 hours compared to Mercedes, who probably now is an incentive to stay P3 because they get way more time than Red Bull.
[05:40.560 -> 05:48.080] And I think like it could be a part of their strategy to stay P3. But again, staying P3 means significant price money
[05:48.080 -> 05:56.120] deduction too from P2 Constructor Championship. So it's going to be a play with Toto Wolf and his mind how they battle the Red Bull
[05:56.120 -> 06:05.600] because Lewis wants that eighth title. Yeah, it's quite an interesting point that you raise. And I actually hadn't considered this that you know the fact that
[06:06.880 -> 06:14.960] now you know being behind a team ahead of you is kind of helpful for the next season. It does make
[06:14.960 -> 06:21.600] sense kind of to you know sacrifice some money like the award money for the sake of getting some
[06:21.600 -> 06:26.640] more wind tunnel time to you know get a better advantage for future years.
[06:26.640 -> 06:32.560] That's a pretty interesting thing to think about actually. But yeah, coming back to the point of
[06:32.560 -> 06:42.080] Red Bull. Before you go there, folks, DM us on Instagram or tweet to us at the rate of fun
[06:42.080 -> 06:50.460] fanfiction and tell us what do you think. should Mercedes sacrifice some some dollars to to stay p3 and get that
[06:50.460 -> 06:55.760] extra testing time so that they can create a better car or take the money
[06:55.760 -> 07:00.960] make better parts or buy better parts and improve their car what do you think
[07:00.960 -> 07:05.160] at the rate of fun fan fiction sorry go ahead yeah coming
[07:05.160 -> 07:08.760] back to the topic of Red Bull right I think it will affect them at least
[07:08.760 -> 07:13.840] considering the fact that Mercedes it does seem like the new upgrades that
[07:13.840 -> 07:18.280] Mercedes has gotten they are working right so it does seem like Mercedes
[07:18.280 -> 07:24.280] probably is going to be the competitor for Red Bull Ferrari not so much so
[07:24.280 -> 07:28.480] considering that I think again and you know if Red Bull Ferrari, not so much. So considering that, I think again, and you know, if Red Bull is
[07:28.480 -> 07:35.040] getting just 202, you know, wind tunnel runs. And even if they keep their third position,
[07:35.040 -> 07:43.200] they still have, you know, like a deficit of what 38 runs, which is still good. So yeah,
[07:43.200 -> 07:47.600] I don't know. It's a, I think it's a decent penalty than what I thought.
[07:47.600 -> 07:54.320] I thought that it would be just a slap on the wrist. It somewhat is, but a little stronger
[07:54.320 -> 07:55.520] slap, I guess. It is.
[07:55.520 -> 07:59.680] To the face probably, not the wrist. It is going to be significant for sure.
[07:59.680 -> 08:10.300] They probably have to rely more on their computer simulations as well to compensate for that lost 40 to 45 hours on average with P2 and P3 as well. So
[08:10.300 -> 08:17.420] we'll see where we go from there. But out of all of this drama something else that
[08:17.420 -> 08:28.700] also popped out was these guys boycotting the clown that Ted Kravitz has become recently and Sky Sports in general.
[08:28.700 -> 08:37.700] I didn't see this but one of our listeners, Nikhil Bhandari, he sort of pinged us saying
[08:37.700 -> 08:49.000] that Sky Sports was running an interview from some other news media outlet that Max spoke to and the team spoke to because these guys wouldn't speak to Sky Sports.
[08:49.000 -> 08:52.000] And I found that very hilarious to be honest.
[08:52.000 -> 08:56.000] Oh my god. Oh my god. No, but I am loving it.
[08:56.000 -> 09:00.000] Like I like this attitude that like these guys have, especially Max.
[09:00.000 -> 09:05.000] Like he just, you know, refuses to participate in bullshit and I like it.
[09:05.000 -> 09:08.000] It's a good way of dealing with them.
[09:08.000 -> 09:09.000] Fair enough.
[09:09.000 -> 09:15.200] And I did get like, we did get some things saying, showing posts where, you know, Max
[09:15.200 -> 09:21.000] was like, I don't get bothered by media and so on and so forth at the start of 2021.
[09:21.000 -> 09:23.000] Sorry, 2022.
[09:23.000 -> 09:27.720] But he's bang on, in my opinion opinion saying a limit's a limit and now
[09:27.720 -> 09:32.240] the limits crossed. You can't sort of continuously keep
[09:32.240 -> 09:38.360] punching someone, you need to forget the past and move on and I agree with him.
[09:38.360 -> 09:49.680] Boycott away, give us gossip, let's joke about it. But what was your highlight? So Sarang, you listed off a
[09:49.680 -> 09:53.980] few things in the start, right, which stood out for you in the race. If you
[09:53.980 -> 10:18.560] were to start off somewhere, what was your highlight? You know what, listen to this. This what you heard here right now was the best version of the F1 intro.
[10:18.560 -> 10:19.560] Dude, I agree man.
[10:19.560 -> 10:22.560] That was my highlight.
[10:22.560 -> 10:24.080] I so agree.
[10:24.080 -> 10:26.640] Starting on the weekend with that sound was like wow.
[10:26.640 -> 10:31.720] Maybe F1 should consider playing this anytime it's in North America.
[10:31.720 -> 10:34.480] Or anytime Czechos is on podium as well.
[10:34.480 -> 10:37.560] Oh, I'd love. Yeah, I'd take that for sure.
[10:37.560 -> 10:43.600] See, Florida, Austin, Brazil and Mexico.
[10:43.600 -> 10:46.560] Everything is Spanish slash Portuguese at this point.
[10:46.560 -> 10:51.200] Uh-huh. So, let's do it. The FIA guy listening to us, let's do it.
[10:52.080 -> 10:54.960] Canada, you can play some Maple Leaf theme. I'm fine with that.
[10:56.800 -> 11:06.880] But yeah, man, it was a great change from the conventional music we've heard all through the weekend as well like with all the sort of
[11:06.880 -> 11:13.200] uh the el ademurta sort of oh right yeah the masks and everything masks and everything and
[11:13.920 -> 11:20.720] the classic mexican cultural fest that we've seen through the paddock it's just brilliant i i love
[11:20.720 -> 11:26.840] how and i don't remember seeing this too much when we've sort of gone through the race calendar as well like Italy.
[11:26.840 -> 11:28.340] I don't remember it that much.
[11:28.340 -> 11:32.680] Anyone else right like every country's got such a unique culture.
[11:32.680 -> 11:35.600] We've not seen that much of it.
[11:35.600 -> 11:39.900] Sure there's been marketing and all but like this felt like a carnival in town.
[11:39.900 -> 11:41.280] Yeah man totally.
[11:41.280 -> 11:44.240] I think Mexico is always like that right.
[11:44.240 -> 11:47.800] The like the volume knob is always turned at 11, not at 10.
[11:47.800 -> 11:51.600] I remember this because you say that, right?
[11:51.600 -> 11:54.400] Like I remember this some stand-up guy.
[11:54.400 -> 12:05.880] I don't know the name, but he basically says the difference between Mexican Spanish versus Spain Spanish is like Spain Spanish is more calmer and in-depth
[12:05.880 -> 12:09.760] whereas Mexican Spanish is like they just want to get on a train somewhere
[12:09.760 -> 12:14.280] and having lived in the US right like we know what that means like California
[12:14.280 -> 12:19.040] Spanish is as close to Mexican Spanish as it gets and they're always in such a
[12:19.040 -> 12:27.140] tonal hurry to talk about it. Yeah man no, it was really awesome. I think everything like even the
[12:27.140 -> 12:31.340] fans are like we have always heard about Japanese fans having these you know
[12:31.340 -> 12:36.620] really ridiculous hats and everything that they wear. I saw a lot of Mexican
[12:36.620 -> 12:42.620] fans as well had like these F1 cars on their caps and things like
[12:42.620 -> 12:46.000] that and then people had like these whole costumes and stuff.
[12:46.000 -> 12:55.000] It was crazy. And especially, man, the part which I love the most is the stadium section where like you have the second to last corner.
[12:55.000 -> 12:57.000] And you have the baseball stadium.
[12:57.000 -> 12:59.000] Before the car goes under the...
[12:59.000 -> 13:06.560] Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. That section is so good. I just love the whole whole Atmosphere at the track I think overall
[13:07.160 -> 13:09.160] Yeah, for sure for sure
[13:09.480 -> 13:15.060] Eventually, I think like even Checo was asked to sort of like give his final thoughts in Spanish
[13:15.060 -> 13:19.320] Which made the crowd go all the more crazy towards that end.
[13:21.120 -> 13:23.960] Talking about crazy acts and people going crazy
[13:28.500 -> 13:32.180] Return of McDaniel. McDaniel. I like that name.
[13:32.180 -> 13:39.300] He went mad. First of all, I was a bit deja vu-ish.
[13:39.300 -> 13:49.920] Because I thought that was Russell trying to run science off again. Yeah, man, what was that? He just, he just like knocked off Sonoda.
[13:49.920 -> 13:53.120] I don't know what was he thinking.
[13:53.120 -> 13:57.520] He probably was, first of all, we have always seen Sonoda as a very good defender.
[13:57.520 -> 14:01.440] Like, we have seen him hold Hamilton back so many times.
[14:01.440 -> 14:04.160] And I'm pretty sure it got to Ricardo for sure.
[14:04.160 -> 14:07.960] Like he was stuck behind him for a while and he became a bit desperate.
[14:09.480 -> 14:13.600] And just dived in. Just, it was super funny.
[14:13.960 -> 14:16.040] True. True. True. At first,
[14:16.040 -> 14:20.680] my first reaction or my first thought was this is, this is Sinhada's fault.
[14:20.920 -> 14:24.840] Right. Like he closed in super hard on Ricardo.
[14:24.840 -> 14:29.440] And even if you see like Ricardo's POV like, you see that there is a gap.
[14:29.440 -> 14:32.600] Ricardo goes for it. And then he just closed. Like, Sunoda just closed.
[14:32.600 -> 14:34.800] And I'm like, what the fuck is this new kid doing?
[14:35.320 -> 14:37.960] And then they show Sunoda's POV.
[14:37.960 -> 14:41.320] And I'm like, Danny boy, you messed this one up.
[14:42.040 -> 14:44.280] Clearly, there was no room there.
[14:44.280 -> 14:46.640] And there was no reason for
[14:46.640 -> 14:51.980] diving in that aggressively. They eventually locked up, locked their wheels and there was
[14:51.980 -> 14:57.800] no escape for Ricardo to get out of it. So it happened what happened but here's the funny
[14:57.800 -> 15:08.000] part. So to do something like this where it's you're not t-boning someone but you are essentially then locked up and you did cause a DNF,
[15:08.000 -> 15:09.800] that's a 10 second penalty.
[15:09.800 -> 15:12.400] Right?
[15:12.400 -> 15:18.500] But t-boning someone in on turn one, lap one, that's a five second penalty.
[15:18.500 -> 15:25.760] Yeah, but I'll give a counter to that. Like I kind of do agree with that somewhat.
[15:25.760 -> 15:34.960] While I agree that it was a T-bone by Russell, it was still under the lap one turn one conditions
[15:34.960 -> 15:42.800] where oftentimes like race directors do give some wiggle room in the sense that things
[15:42.800 -> 15:45.520] are not at optimal temperatures.
[15:45.520 -> 15:51.700] Everybody's brakes are also a bit colder than what they should be and everything.
[15:51.700 -> 15:56.080] So I think considering those factors, I kind of do agree to it.
[15:56.080 -> 16:00.180] I kind of understand where they're coming from as to why that was given a smaller penalty
[16:00.180 -> 16:01.180] than this one.
[16:01.180 -> 16:02.180] Okay, fair enough.
[16:02.180 -> 16:08.400] But overall, I think that sort of seems to have charged him up and especially like
[16:08.400 -> 16:11.760] when they told him, you know, you've got like a 10 second penalty.
[16:11.760 -> 16:17.280] He started started gunning people down in literal sense.
[16:17.280 -> 16:22.200] If that's what awakened him, they should just give him a penalty every time at the start
[16:22.200 -> 16:23.200] of the race.
[16:23.200 -> 16:25.100] As soon as he starts, he has a 10 second penalty.
[16:25.100 -> 16:27.300] Yeah, yeah. Even Brandel or someone said like,
[16:27.600 -> 16:30.200] charge him with a penalty before the lights go out.
[16:30.200 -> 16:32.000] And you'll probably see a new Daniel.
[16:33.100 -> 16:39.200] No, but like the way he over took Ocon with like the hand gesture of like gunning him, shooting him out.
[16:40.600 -> 16:43.500] Dude, I'm going to miss this guy in Pardug next year.
[16:44.200 -> 16:48.700] Yeah, man, it's sad. I think if you want to see him on the track again, you need to start
[16:48.700 -> 16:55.600] training that either Checo or Max Gedzel so that the reserve driver gets the chance.
[16:55.600 -> 16:56.600] Yeah.
[16:56.600 -> 16:58.600] Isn't it? That's what I've heard.
[16:58.600 -> 16:59.600] Yeah, yeah.
[16:59.600 -> 17:00.600] Like signing up for the reserve driver.
[17:00.600 -> 17:05.920] Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the thing the thing like he's going back to Christian owner
[17:06.280 -> 17:08.920] He there's a homecoming party coming
[17:10.200 -> 17:13.400] The Red Bull camp for the return of Daniel Ricardo
[17:13.400 -> 17:15.400] I think I think both
[17:15.400 -> 17:21.620] Max and check one need to like have like a cup bearer like the Kings used to have earlier on
[17:21.960 -> 17:28.320] Who would like keep attention of what who's handling their food because they need to keep an eye out on Daniel.
[17:28.640 -> 17:30.320] Yeah. He's getting close to them.
[17:31.080 -> 17:34.600] Fair enough. Fair enough. That'd be a funny thing to see.
[17:35.240 -> 17:38.920] There was a point where I think like even McLaren gave team orders and like
[17:39.120 -> 17:42.000] asked Lando to let Daniel pass.
[17:42.680 -> 17:44.400] That was surprising to me.
[17:44.440 -> 17:53.440] Oh, that was orgasmic. Yeah it's like that
[17:53.440 -> 17:58.840] Drake meme you know like you hear like McLaren giving team orders and Drake
[17:58.840 -> 18:05.680] being like that and then it's like it's in favor of Daniel. Yep.
[18:06.760 -> 18:10.080] But there's some interesting play happening, right?
[18:10.080 -> 18:13.560] Like while we sort of like see the high level result,
[18:14.040 -> 18:18.080] there's this whole concept that Sarang I want to talk with you about is
[18:19.000 -> 18:24.000] higher temperatures, track temperatures, Mexico being at an altitude,
[18:24.000 -> 18:25.600] which starts affecting things.
[18:25.600 -> 18:30.640] So, let's sort of like geek out and nerd out about this a bit, right?
[18:30.640 -> 18:38.960] The strategy that some teams chose to do here and let's focus on McLaren particularly
[18:38.960 -> 18:47.760] is they both started off with mediums, Daniel and Lando going into like 30s laps sort of fish.
[18:48.160 -> 18:53.160] And then Lando changes to hards and Daniel changes to softs.
[18:54.720 -> 19:02.200] And every car that's done this, so Mercedes did it, Haas did it, Lando did it.
[19:02.640 -> 19:06.240] Everyone who changed to hards, in hindsight,
[19:06.320 -> 19:10.520] they've suffered a lot. Like everyone's complained that hards was not the right
[19:10.520 -> 19:16.080] choice for yesterday. Hards, as we know, are more difficult to get warmed up than
[19:16.080 -> 19:22.680] the softs and the mediums. Brilliantly, we saw Vettel run 38 laps on softs.
[19:23.760 -> 19:28.000] Mediums were running also into late 30s and early 40s with like Alonso.
[19:28.200 -> 19:34.120] So, there was clear data, at least starting off that, you know, these tires are running longer than usual.
[19:35.440 -> 19:43.360] But I also want to ask you is how do you think, like Mexico sits almost two kilometers above sea level, if I'm not wrong.
[19:44.320 -> 19:45.360] Or this track track not the
[19:45.360 -> 19:49.160] whole country.
[19:49.160 -> 19:53.720] But do you think like the challenges that it brings up and we'll talk about those in
[19:53.720 -> 20:00.040] a second do you think like we should have more tracks or the calendar more scattered
[20:00.040 -> 20:05.840] such that we go sea level high level level, sea level, high level. Interesting. Keep that dynamic.
[20:12.880 -> 20:19.440] Interesting point you raise. Yeah, I think I had never thought about it this way. I mean, that's an interesting take that this should probably be into consideration. But I think it's
[20:20.240 -> 20:27.600] a bit more difficult, I guess, to have a calendar which would cater to this.
[20:28.160 -> 20:33.200] Because then, I mean, I don't think there are many tracks in the world,
[20:33.200 -> 20:39.840] especially FIA grade one tracks where one can actually race, which have such a variability of
[20:39.840 -> 20:47.160] altitude. So while I really like the idea, I'm not pretty sure how logistically possible
[20:47.160 -> 20:52.880] that would be. But, but, but yeah, honestly, I like it. I wish it should be more variable
[20:52.880 -> 21:00.160] because that way, you know, like teams can, like, you know, gear their cards to certain
[21:00.160 -> 21:06.120] kind of tracks more than, yeah. We'll We see more variability in that in those cases.
[21:06.120 -> 21:07.780] There's more room for error.
[21:07.780 -> 21:10.240] There's more chances to fail.
[21:10.240 -> 21:17.200] That's exactly what happened with Ferrari because the only thing that I mean, they weren't
[21:17.200 -> 21:28.920] they were non-existent to be very honest, even when they were like P5, P4, P6-ish. But in hindsight, and this is what I'm hearing is they had their
[21:28.920 -> 21:35.920] setup wrong. And by the time they realized it, it was, it was a bit late.
[21:35.920 -> 21:41.280] Just to list out, I had already said this before, but I'll say it again. I'm happy that
[21:41.280 -> 21:47.160] they did it. They've messed up their setup to start with and instead of giving us hopes and then fucking up
[21:47.160 -> 21:50.680] They just you know made way for Mercedes like yeah, you know, we just said
[21:51.520 -> 21:55.680] Go ahead. Have fun. It's like that radio message to Lando
[21:56.360 -> 22:00.600] Last year sometime we are not fighting them. Let them through
[22:02.480 -> 22:05.280] I think Lando was fighting Mercedes or something at that point.
[22:05.280 -> 22:09.640] We aren't in a race with them, let them through.
[22:10.840 -> 22:15.040] Talking about high altitude right, so let's list out a few things.
[22:15.040 -> 22:21.640] High altitude obviously thinner air, lack of oxygen, poses challenges on
[22:21.640 -> 22:28.880] engines where cooling the engine is a bit trickier and then obviously
[22:28.880 -> 22:33.760] preventing overheating issues is a challenge.
[22:33.760 -> 22:39.280] Thinner air causes drag reduction problems as well and teams have to run a higher downforce
[22:39.280 -> 22:40.280] package.
[22:40.280 -> 22:45.920] The rule of thumb that we sort of know is every 100 meters gain in altitude, the engine
[22:45.920 -> 22:53.480] output drops by 1% and do the math, Mexico City is sitting 2.2 kilometers above sea level.
[22:53.480 -> 23:00.880] F1 cars are air cooled and the engines are turbocharged, which means pressured air is
[23:00.880 -> 23:05.360] passed through these engines in simpler terms, which means the engines have to do
[23:05.360 -> 23:11.440] a harder and much harder work in thinner air to get the performance that they want.
[23:11.440 -> 23:16.800] And to keep the cars cooled, there have to be like wider ducts to take that air in.
[23:17.600 -> 23:26.400] All in all, there is a list of like almost all teams telling FIA the type of changes they've brought in.
[23:26.400 -> 23:31.400] Like McLaren with their rear brake duct, Red Bull with like a top body central spine change,
[23:31.700 -> 23:34.680] AlphaTauri with like three cooling related upgrades.
[23:35.040 -> 23:38.280] Williams also did something even if they were the last team.
[23:39.720 -> 23:46.240] Yeah. And Mercedes, obviously, we've seen they did some floor changes, but that was only for debris. We'll come to that.
[23:47.960 -> 23:52.720] But all in all, all teams have had to make the change, except what we know of as Alpine.
[23:55.680 -> 24:03.680] And painfully, Alonso suffered the high altitude, no car upgrade change that we know of issue.
[24:07.000 -> 24:13.000] Oh, man, that guy. I don, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[24:13.000 -> 24:19.000] no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[24:19.000 -> 24:25.000] no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I think he's going to see similar results what he's been seeing here over there as well.
[24:25.000 -> 24:35.000] Yeah, like I think this is a list going on around on social media with which lists on all the like breakdowns that Alonzo has had.
[24:35.000 -> 24:37.000] And like, I'm just looking at that.
[24:37.000 -> 24:40.000] So we've had like 19 or 20 races. How many are there?
[24:40.000 -> 24:49.000] Right, let's see. Looking at this list from what I see, I think they are like 11 times where he has had like engine issues or something is broken with his car.
[24:49.000 -> 24:57.000] And then other times it has been like either somebody hitting him like Hamilton hit him in I think what it was some race I remember.
[24:57.000 -> 25:05.400] And then Schumacher also hit him once. And yeah, something or the other or the strategy was messed up or the pit stop was messed up something or the other.
[25:05.400 -> 25:06.400] Right.
[25:06.400 -> 25:09.400] So he's lost a lot of points.
[25:09.400 -> 25:13.800] But at the same time, he's been shit staring a lot, right?
[25:13.800 -> 25:14.800] Yeah.
[25:14.800 -> 25:15.800] Oh, wow.
[25:15.800 -> 25:16.800] Sitting on his Instagram.
[25:16.800 -> 25:19.800] Oh, sitting on the pot and typing things out on his Instagram.
[25:19.800 -> 25:20.800] Dude, I'm loving it.
[25:20.800 -> 25:21.800] I'm loving it.
[25:21.800 -> 25:22.800] He's been very vocal.
[25:22.800 -> 25:23.800] You're right.
[25:23.800 -> 25:24.800] Like he said two things.
[25:24.800 -> 25:25.860] He said, he said two things. He said
[25:26.780 -> 25:30.000] He said three things actually. He said one that
[25:30.680 -> 25:35.540] and I obviously paraphrase but he says it is what it is with Alpine
[25:36.540 -> 25:42.580] But there are there are better times starting next year. So that's the second he said was
[25:52.540 -> 25:53.100] So that's the second he said was, if not for whatever damages and you know, DNFs we got, we would have probably at least gained 70 more points in the championship.
[25:56.460 -> 25:57.020] And the third obviously is he shits on Hamilton.
[26:04.540 -> 26:05.360] Yeah. Shits on Hamilton saying Max's championship is well deserved because he didn't have to just fight his teammate.
[26:09.040 -> 26:10.800] That was a very weird take, very honestly. Like, I don't know, whatever.
[26:17.200 -> 26:27.400] Yeah, I mean, we've said this time and again, last year, the championship was Max's to win, but the race was Hamilton's to win. This is an established fact. But I agree to Alonzo for the fact that Red Bull second driver was
[26:27.400 -> 26:32.840] non-existent until the second half of 2021 when Checo started to get the feel for his
[26:32.840 -> 26:38.320] car. So yeah, I agree with Alonzo.
[26:38.320 -> 26:45.000] No man, I really wouldn't. While I do agree that...
[26:45.000 -> 26:48.000] So, it's not like
[26:48.000 -> 26:51.000] Verstappen has had to fight anybody this season, honestly.
[26:51.000 -> 26:54.000] Ferrari did it by themselves. He didn't really have to fight them.
[26:54.000 -> 26:57.000] Yeah.
[26:57.000 -> 27:00.000] Even if...
[27:00.000 -> 27:03.000] So, this year was pretty much
[27:03.000 -> 27:11.000] a very similar year to what you would say was against maybe Vettel in Ferrari with like Hamilton fighting him.
[27:11.000 -> 27:12.000] 2018.
[27:12.000 -> 27:25.360] Right, 2018. So it's like, it's a weird take, honestly, like, I wouldn't say that his two championships are greater than anyone's. Honestly, I don't even agree that you should be comparing different
[27:25.360 -> 27:30.800] championships because each championship happens in a very specific set of rules,
[27:30.800 -> 27:38.320] like a very specific set of conditions rather. And which changes the whole formula, you know.
[27:38.320 -> 27:44.800] So I know it's rather not get into comparing whose championships are bigger, it's like
[27:44.800 -> 27:47.360] then you're just getting into a dick measuring competition.
[27:47.680 -> 27:51.760] But that is what it is. Yeah, it is. Cash is king and I'm bigger.
[27:53.440 -> 27:54.280] Exactly.
[27:58.720 -> 28:01.480] I want to take a look at some stats from the weekend.
[28:01.680 -> 28:09.760] Some of it are very sort of obvious but Perez is now P2 in WDC and Science.
[28:09.760 -> 28:16.640] Quick interjection over there. I think at that point I had like even these commentators were
[28:16.640 -> 28:27.680] talking about this that should Charles like should Ferrari swap positions between Carlos and Charles just so that he doesn't lose the P2 position.
[28:27.680 -> 28:31.760] And it was a very interesting thing as to they should have done that I feel.
[28:31.760 -> 28:36.960] While it doesn't change anything in terms of like monetary compensation or anything,
[28:36.960 -> 28:39.680] but still I think they should have probably done that.
[28:39.680 -> 28:46.480] I agree. Try and at least keep that battle going on in the last race and at least try and keep the Leclerc up there.
[28:47.480 -> 28:53.240] Interesting. Lewis Hamilton is also four points ahead of Carlos Sainz at this point.
[28:53.240 -> 28:57.040] So, both the Ferrari sort of struggling there.
[28:57.400 -> 29:01.600] Alpine extends its lead over McLaren WCC.
[29:02.000 -> 29:08.640] 14 race wins in the season for Max, which is a new record, which is 14 out of 20
[29:08.640 -> 29:15.000] as compared to 13 out of 19 for Vettel and then 13 out of 18 for Schumacher.
[29:15.000 -> 29:19.580] There's two more races to go. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see where this goes.
[29:19.580 -> 29:27.860] Max position gains Troll and Albon. You know what, let's hold this thought for a second because I want to come to these items.
[29:27.860 -> 29:32.700] Leclerc was at his 100th race start this weekend.
[29:32.700 -> 29:35.600] Unfortunately, he cried himself to sleep.
[29:35.600 -> 29:43.440] And then Max positions lost was Alonso 10 but he DNF'd at that point.
[29:43.440 -> 29:45.580] But Botaz 4.
[29:51.800 -> 29:52.640] And coming back to this max position gained and lost 5 and 4 for Stroh, Lallbon and Botaz.
[29:56.640 -> 29:57.320] This is interesting race section that was going this weekend at least.
[30:01.560 -> 30:05.120] Sarang, you and I were talking about this which is about like all the midfielders, right? Like we weren't more keen on what is happening in front of the race
[30:05.120 -> 30:11.600] for the weekend, but like the midfield pack was just fun to watch. Yeah, I agree. Like there was,
[30:11.600 -> 30:17.360] first of all, like this race, at least while there was not a lot of track, like on track action,
[30:17.360 -> 30:23.200] I mean, there was some of course, but not a lot, not many long, interesting battles, right? But
[30:23.200 -> 30:26.960] there was this constant tension of strategy going on right
[30:26.960 -> 30:32.240] in between like midfields. Especially like if you saw at the start of the race like it was like
[30:32.240 -> 30:37.440] almost every alternate driver had a different tire. It was either medium soft, medium soft,
[30:37.440 -> 30:41.920] soft medium, medium soft, something like that. And everybody was like you know just rolling their
[30:41.920 -> 30:45.000] dice trying to think like what strategy works best.
[30:45.000 -> 30:50.640] So like this race, you know, it was weird that like, I wouldn't exactly like, it was
[30:50.640 -> 30:51.640] a snoozefest.
[30:51.640 -> 30:56.080] I do agree, but I wouldn't exactly call it a boring race because there was always this
[30:56.080 -> 31:00.800] hint of tension in the air, but it never converted into actual battles.
[31:00.800 -> 31:03.220] That's that's the sad part about it.
[31:03.220 -> 31:05.840] But there was, it wasn't exactly set in stone as
[31:05.840 -> 31:12.320] to what the leaderboard is going to be. There was this constant uncertainty about who's
[31:12.320 -> 31:17.560] strategy would work out better. So while we didn't see a lot of action, I think there
[31:17.560 -> 31:22.480] was still a lot of strategy battles going on in the midfield. Some of the good actions
[31:22.480 -> 31:30.720] I think that we saw was, I think it was what, Joe versus Vettel the good actions I think that we saw was I think it was what Joe versus Vettel right I think that was a pretty good one. Of course
[31:30.720 -> 31:35.680] Vettel was on a very weird strategy again. Yeah. But yeah that was one of the good
[31:35.680 -> 31:42.000] battles that we saw. Dude, Joe all weekend man I think like earlier in the race too
[31:42.000 -> 31:45.160] he was I forget who he was fighting I think like earlier in the race too, he was, I forget who he was fighting.
[31:45.480 -> 31:46.600] I think like Ricardo.
[31:47.680 -> 31:48.920] That was a lovely battle as well.
[31:48.920 -> 31:53.960] Like because Ricardo was on his 230th race versus Xiao was on his 20th race.
[31:54.480 -> 32:00.200] And still, you know, sure Ricardo had the better of that battle at that point.
[32:00.240 -> 32:07.280] But being able to sort of hold back someone who's got almost more than 200 races on you,
[32:07.280 -> 32:15.520] better car than you, all in all still being able to do a clean racing without eating anyone off,
[32:15.520 -> 32:26.080] that was brilliant. And then the same thing with Vettel as well, right? So for me, it was superb to watch someone
[32:26.080 -> 32:31.880] take advantage of their warmer, softer tires
[32:31.880 -> 32:36.680] over someone who is trying to get their mediums warmed up
[32:36.680 -> 32:39.280] and struggling and have that presence of mind
[32:39.280 -> 32:43.800] just in their 20th race over veterans like Vettel and Ricciardo.
[32:43.800 -> 32:45.520] Superb driving from Shah.
[32:45.520 -> 32:53.200] Yeah man. Shah has been very impressive I think. Overall this season, he has been outqualifying Botas.
[32:53.200 -> 32:57.760] He has been fighting really well. He has had a lot of bad luck of course.
[32:57.760 -> 33:05.000] He has had like two very weird crashes both of the times when his family was there, which was again very weird. Yeah.
[33:05.000 -> 33:07.840] Like overall, he's doing great.
[33:07.840 -> 33:12.160] I think he also has a contract forward, two years.
[33:12.160 -> 33:18.320] So yeah, I think like it's an awesome opportunity for him, and especially with the awesome news
[33:18.320 -> 33:25.000] of Audi joining the grid with Sauber, which is basically Alfa Romeo.
[33:26.740 -> 33:29.560] I think it's the perfect opportunity for him
[33:29.560 -> 33:33.200] to stick with this team and perform well
[33:33.200 -> 33:37.220] so that he has a chance of getting into the Audi factory
[33:37.220 -> 33:40.200] team, which would be pretty awesome to see actually.
[33:40.200 -> 33:42.160] Fair enough, fair enough, fair enough.
[33:43.200 -> 33:47.640] A few things also happening in the midfield is Gasly is
[33:48.320 -> 33:51.440] very close to just getting a race back at this point.
[33:53.320 -> 33:57.480] It's weird though, man, because like some of his penalties have been very odd,
[33:57.480 -> 34:02.160] like the last penalty that he got in the last days, which was for the 10th car length thing.
[34:02.160 -> 34:04.640] Do you know this? Do you know this?
[34:04.640 -> 34:08.500] So what happened was like, you know, he had this five second,
[34:09.000 -> 34:11.800] which they were serving as a stop and go.
[34:11.800 -> 34:12.500] Oh, yeah.
[34:12.500 -> 34:17.600] And they ended up doing like a 4.8 something sort of ish.
[34:18.100 -> 34:21.100] This time again, when he got that five second penalty,
[34:21.600 -> 34:31.280] they and this some commentator said this, like they did it for 6.4 or something they would be like overly cautious in terms of like the
[34:31.280 -> 34:51.120] time he served. Well no shit, makes sense like I rather I think he better behave otherwise he would not be saying this.
[34:51.120 -> 34:52.120] Yeah, yeah.
[34:52.120 -> 34:58.240] That's the funny thing, like Ghazali doesn't come off like a hot-headed guy who's very
[34:58.240 -> 34:59.240] aggressive at all.
[34:59.240 -> 35:03.600] It's very weird that he's close to a race, man.
[35:03.600 -> 35:08.120] Right. But that battle with Stroll and him being pushed out,
[35:08.120 -> 35:13.520] I think this is a new racing rule or a racing incident
[35:13.520 -> 35:15.480] rule that FIA has come up with, which
[35:15.480 -> 35:22.280] is if a driver happens to, for whatever reason,
[35:22.280 -> 35:25.000] push another driver out of the track
[35:25.000 -> 35:28.000] and then gains an advantage for a position or anything,
[35:28.000 -> 35:32.000] then they have to give the position back or get some penalty.
[35:32.000 -> 35:36.000] In this case, I think like the question remained was
[35:36.000 -> 35:40.000] the team should have asked Gasly to give the position back in stroll.
[35:40.000 -> 35:44.000] But they chose not to. I think it's okay because
[35:44.000 -> 35:46.000] Gasly overtook and just f**ked off.
[35:46.000 -> 35:51.800] He's like, I'll probably gain five seconds overstroll rather than give the position back or whatever.
[35:51.800 -> 35:59.280] But it's still a weird thing to do because he gained two penalty points, which like five seconds is fine.
[35:59.280 -> 36:06.080] He can overcome that. But of course, he's so close to the race ban now that it probably, you know, just
[36:07.120 -> 36:11.920] even like something that might happen, which is out of his control can give him more penalty
[36:11.920 -> 36:19.680] points. Tell me this, when do these points reset? I think each point has a validity of,
[36:19.680 -> 36:29.520] I think, 12 months or something like that. Don't quote me on that. But yeah, it has some validity and basically it goes off just like, you know, the points that you get on your license. So it's
[36:29.520 -> 36:36.800] very similar to that. Another thing is I, I'm gonna call out anyone who calls any driver,
[36:38.000 -> 36:47.000] Mr. Sunday, Mr. Saturday or whatever names in terms of consistency. For me, the most consistent driver is Nicholas Latifi.
[36:47.000 -> 36:48.000] Of course.
[36:48.000 -> 36:53.000] To finish with P20 every race, it's not a small achievement.
[36:53.000 -> 37:06.480] Man, this time it really felt like he was on a nice Sunday drive, you know, like, like he's going to some nice health station and he's taking the scenic route.
[37:06.480 -> 37:14.240] And then he eventually ended up being like one minute, almost one minute off of the car in front of him.
[37:14.240 -> 37:22.880] Oh man, it was very funny. Well, like it's his last few races, let him enjoy it as he wants, you know.
[37:22.880 -> 37:27.000] So I'm happy for him.
[37:27.000 -> 37:35.000] I'm sort of starting to fall in love with Mexican Grand Prix's only and only because
[37:35.000 -> 37:37.000] Papa Perez is there.
[37:37.000 -> 37:41.000] That sheer joy of energy that that guy...
[37:41.000 -> 37:49.800] There is a meme or there is an image of some strategist explaining something to Perez on the internet and then Papa Perez is sort of
[37:49.800 -> 37:53.640] like standing behind the grilled fence just trying to make sure everything
[37:53.640 -> 37:58.400] being explained is accurate but beyond all of this right like the two fathers
[37:58.400 -> 38:06.840] exactly I was just gonna get to that the Anthony and then the Spanish version of Anthony Antonio
[38:06.840 -> 38:15.440] like long-lost lovers it feels. I saw a really awesome meme about that
[38:15.440 -> 38:25.000] 2021 like Perez kissing his like Hamilton's dad. 2022 Hamilton's dad kissing Perez's dad.
[38:25.000 -> 38:29.000] And 2023 when Dibu is kissing Ethan's dad.
[38:40.000 -> 38:46.300] All in all, I hope at least Siesta Dila Siesta wasn't what this episode was for you.
[38:48.000 -> 38:50.500] We have two more races to go.
[38:51.600 -> 38:58.000] Nothing in terms of championship points or any exciting stats or news is left.
[38:58.000 -> 38:59.300] This is just for the feels.
[38:59.300 -> 39:13.000] This is just, yeah, because money's been paid everywhere and everyone needs to raise. But here's hoping for some accidents, some crashes and some drama, gossip and everything that we can to stir up new controversies and
[39:13.000 -> 39:19.000] bring in new gossip and be these aunties standing in top of this building.
[39:19.000 -> 39:27.680] Until the next episode, rate us anywhere you listen to podcasts like us subscribe to us tell to your friends
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[39:31.600 -> 39:33.600] We'll see you in the next one. Bye. Bye