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The 2022 Hungarian GP was yet again abysmal for Ferrari and Max came out on the top from P10 with a spin as well! The Ferrari camp is just not able to get their act together this season. While Ferrari completely bottled it Mercedes was able to completely capitalize on Ferrari's misfortune and get that double podium!
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How to lose a race by Mattia Binotto
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**Introduction:**
* The Hungarian Grand Prix was a disappointment for Ferrari, while Red Bull's Max Verstappen emerged victorious despite a spin.
* Ferrari's strategic blunders allowed Mercedes to capitalize and secure a double podium finish.
* This episode features a special guest, Roberto Baldea, a Formula One content creator and die-hard fan.
**Key Points:**
* **Red Bull's Dominance:**
* Red Bull's strategists, particularly Hannah Schmitz, were praised for their quick thinking and effective strategy calls.
* Verstappen's spin, caused by a clutch issue, highlighted the team's resilience and ability to overcome challenges.
* Red Bull's engine reliability concerns remain, but their overall performance has been impressive.
* **Ferrari's Mismanagement:**
* Ferrari's strategy calls were heavily criticized, with the team prioritizing Charles Leclerc over Carlos Sainz despite Sainz's stronger position.
* The team's decision to switch Leclerc to hard tires backfired, costing him valuable time and the race lead.
* Ferrari's pit stops were also slow, further hindering their chances of success.
* **Binotto's Leadership:**
* Team principal Mattia Binotto faced calls for his resignation due to Ferrari's poor performance.
* Binotto's abrupt departure from the pit wall during the race was seen as a sign of frustration and lack of accountability.
* **Vettel's Retirement:**
* Sebastian Vettel's retirement from Formula One was a major talking point.
* Vettel's decision was influenced by Aston Martin's pressure for an early answer on his future and his desire to focus on environmental and social causes.
* **Silly Season Speculation:**
* Fernando Alonso's move to Aston Martin and the potential impact on Alpine's driver lineup were discussed.
* Oscar Piastri, Liam Lawson, and Pierre Gasly were mentioned as possible candidates for the vacant Alpine seat.
* **Multi 21 Controversy:**
* The infamous "Multi 21" incident, where Vettel ignored team orders to let teammate Mark Webber pass, was brought up.
* Vettel expressed regret for his actions in the incident, acknowledging that he should have followed team instructions.
**Overall Message:**
The podcast highlighted the contrasting fortunes of Red Bull and Ferrari in the Hungarian Grand Prix, emphasizing Red Bull's strategic prowess and Ferrari's ongoing struggles. The episode also delved into the retirement of Sebastian Vettel and the ongoing driver market speculation, providing insightful analysis and commentary on these key topics. # Hungarian Grand Prix 2022: A Comprehensive Review
## Introduction
The 2022 Hungarian Grand Prix was a race of surprises and disappointments, with Max Verstappen emerging victorious despite starting in P10. Ferrari, once again, had a disastrous race, while Mercedes capitalized on their misfortune to secure a double podium finish. This episode features a special guest, Roberto Baldea, a Formula One content creator and avid fan.
## Key Topics Discussed
* **Spin it to Win it:** Max Verstappen's remarkable win after a spin.
* **Hannah Schmitz FTW!:** Praising Hannah Schmitz, Red Bull's Strategy Engineer, for her role in Max's victory.
* **Chad Red Bull vs Virgin Ferrari:** Contrasting the performances of Red Bull and Ferrari.
* **Problems at the Prancing Horse Factory:** Analyzing the ongoing issues within the Ferrari team.
* **Binotto's Mic Drop Exit:** Speculating on Mattia Binotto's potential departure from Ferrari.
* **Goodbye Vettel:** Reflecting on Sebastian Vettel's retirement from Formula One.
* **Silly Season Kicks Off!:** Discussing the driver market movements and rumors.
* **MULTI 21!!!:** Recalling the infamous "Multi 21" incident between Mark Webber and Sebastian Vettel.
* **Goatifi P1:** Celebrating Nicholas Latifi's brief moment of glory in FP3.
* **Mercedes Clawing Its Way Back:** Analyzing Mercedes' resurgence in recent races.
* **Is Charles Championship Material?:** Debating Charles Leclerc's potential as a world champion.
## Notable Quotes and Statements
* "How to lose a race by Mattia Binotto" - A satirical article highlighting Ferrari's strategic blunders.
* "Spin it to win it!" - A phrase encapsulating Max Verstappen's remarkable victory.
* "Chad Red Bull vs Virgin Ferrari" - A humorous comparison of the two teams' performances.
* "Problems at the Prancing Horse Factory" - A reference to the ongoing issues within the Ferrari team.
* "Binotto's Mic Drop Exit" - A speculative headline regarding Mattia Binotto's potential departure from Ferrari.
* "Goodbye Vettel" - A tribute to Sebastian Vettel's illustrious career in Formula One.
* "Silly Season Kicks Off!" - A phrase describing the start of the driver market movements and rumors.
* "MULTI 21!!!" - A reference to the infamous incident between Mark Webber and Sebastian Vettel.
* "Goatifi P1" - A tongue-in-cheek celebration of Nicholas Latifi's brief moment of glory in FP3.
* "Mercedes Clawing Its Way Back" - A description of Mercedes' recent resurgence in performance.
* "Is Charles Championship Material?" - A question mark surrounding Charles Leclerc's potential as a world champion.
## Overall Message
The Hungarian Grand Prix highlighted the contrasting fortunes of Red Bull and Ferrari, with Max Verstappen's victory further cementing his dominance in the championship race. Mercedes' strong performance signaled their resurgence, while Ferrari's continued struggles raised questions about their ability to challenge for the title. The episode also touched on various other topics, including Sebastian Vettel's retirement, the driver market, and the ongoing debate surrounding Charles Leclerc's championship credentials.
[00:00.000 -> 00:08.560] Roberto is giving homage to Ferrari. I have a clown costume, I think it's very clear.
[00:10.000 -> 00:13.440] It's a simple clown costume, you know, I even have the binotto glasses.
[00:31.040 -> 00:36.320] Hello folks and welcome to F1 Fan Fiction, a show about race weekend reviews and F1 racing community interviews. This one is the one, if you've been following the sport right, like this
[00:36.320 -> 00:41.200] one is the one where Hamilton started alone on the grid and everyone ditched him to start from
[00:41.200 -> 00:46.840] the pits last year. This year, this year has been a fun one as well.
[00:47.080 -> 00:50.180] Before we get into it, you have three hosts today.
[00:50.580 -> 00:52.680] We are your hosts. I am Akash.
[00:52.840 -> 00:53.640] And I'm Saran.
[00:53.640 -> 00:58.580] And my name is Roberto Baldea, the admin from RBE Racing on Instagram.
[00:59.000 -> 01:00.040] Hey, Roberto.
[01:00.040 -> 01:02.100] Welcome to F1 Fan Fiction.
[01:02.100 -> 01:04.480] And thank you for being with us.
[01:04.480 -> 01:09.600] Thank you for inviting me. I mean, we tried to do this episode for the Canadian Grand Prix.
[01:09.600 -> 01:13.920] It wasn't meant to be, but now I'm here and I think we're going to have some fun.
[01:13.920 -> 01:22.560] Yeah, totally. For folks, go check out RBE Racing on Instagram. The unique part is that
[01:23.200 -> 01:28.480] he goes to every Canadian Grand Prix and then he has these amazing stories and amazing pics
[01:28.680 -> 01:35.480] coming in from how a raw fan of F1 wants to experience the weekend. So go check out RB Racing.
[01:36.000 -> 01:38.000] On to the Hungarian Grand Prix.
[01:38.080 -> 01:44.960] Thoughts, raw thoughts. Let's start with you, Roberto. Well, raw thoughts, we can talk about the Chad the Red Bull.
[01:40.840 -> 01:41.120] start with you, Roberta.
[01:42.440 -> 01:42.720] Well, raw thoughts.
[01:46.320 -> 01:48.240] We can talk about the Chad, the Red Bull and their,
[01:52.600 -> 01:57.920] and their, and their race, uh, especially from the part of Mike's or Stapin who did amazing and then P one at the end, as we said, great
[01:57.920 -> 01:59.440] strategy from Hannah Smith.
[01:59.800 -> 02:00.120] Smith.
[02:00.680 -> 02:01.080] Smith.
[02:01.560 -> 02:06.720] Uh, yeah, because of her, you you know he jumped Hamilton at the first stop he didn't have
[02:06.720 -> 02:12.400] to pass him and then they they put the mediums at the right time even if it was a bit early
[02:12.400 -> 02:18.720] they did it perfectly and he overtook Charles he had that little spin you know but yeah he came back
[02:19.840 -> 02:26.160] and yeah spin and win he spun and he won oh yeah i like that i like the way you put it yeah
[02:26.160 -> 02:33.600] and yeah just great great race from redbull great strategy from the strategist great race from max
[02:33.600 -> 02:38.960] just great there's absolutely nothing that i can think that i can complain about redbull at all
[02:38.960 -> 02:46.120] last race like at least from max's camp oh but, we forgot he did have the spin was because of a clutch issue.
[02:46.120 -> 02:52.000] So the car had some, and even, and even, uh, during the Saturday during qualifying,
[02:52.320 -> 02:56.260] the reason because he wasn't P10 was because the engine wasn't working.
[02:56.640 -> 03:00.520] So that's something to look out for Red Bull because they are, they are
[03:00.520 -> 03:01.920] running away with the championship.
[03:02.240 -> 03:07.560] But if the car breaks down in some races, then I think then I think some can can catch up
[03:08.000 -> 03:12.600] That's a that's a good point because Saturday they did have that MG UK issue
[03:13.480 -> 03:21.280] Which which made them change their power units and to be honest that that again brings exactly the question of engine reliabilities
[03:21.700 -> 03:25.000] Although the spin I thought more was just checking if
[03:25.000 -> 03:31.120] Charles is still behind him and how close he is. You know, let me just check what's happening with him.
[03:31.120 -> 03:36.260] Yeah man, I mean I completely agree to Roberto that you know actually to think
[03:36.260 -> 03:41.420] of it Red Bull is having issues you know but it's just that the issues are
[03:41.420 -> 03:47.360] getting masked by some other team that I don't want to talk about.
[03:47.360 -> 03:52.680] So it's difficult to you know, people just kind of forget that the fuckups that Red Bull
[03:52.680 -> 03:57.240] are doing because yeah, because somebody else is doing a lot more.
[03:57.240 -> 04:04.480] So but man, yeah, true truly hats off to Hannah Schmitz man like I personally didn't know
[04:04.480 -> 04:10.000] that she was the strategist that was this race that I got to know when Max did a shoutout to her as well.
[04:10.000 -> 04:29.760] It's pretty brilliant that she has been in the team for 12 years. She has worked with almost most of the Red Bull drivers in the history. to you, Betel, Ricardo, Max, Perez. And like, it's very interesting to read about like how she is a very calm and
[04:29.760 -> 04:30.480] collected person.
[04:30.480 -> 04:34.840] I somewhat, I read a profile on her where like she has this technique of, you know,
[04:34.840 -> 04:39.960] using her palm of her hands as like a communication method where basically if
[04:39.960 -> 04:46.720] her palms are down on the table, it means like this is serious guys like wow you should just i didn't know
[04:46.720 -> 04:53.040] that that's yeah that's a very interesting thing so interesting and it shows right like i think
[04:53.040 -> 04:58.880] red bull in general we could say that their strategy calls generally are on point i honestly
[04:58.880 -> 05:06.240] can't remember a race where they lost because of strategy alone, which is quite rare and quite interesting. Yeah, the last one,
[05:06.240 -> 05:12.720] I think, if I remember, maybe Spain last year, which wasn't even a f**k up. It was just Mercedes
[05:12.720 -> 05:19.040] playing amazing game and boxing Hamilton at the very end and he caught him at the end. So,
[05:19.600 -> 05:27.200] yeah, that was the only one I can remember. And that too, they picked up on and like Red Bull did what Mercedes did to them at
[05:27.200 -> 05:28.160] the French Grand Prix.
[05:28.160 -> 05:30.400] And yeah, exactly.
[05:31.680 -> 05:35.520] The other thing that was brilliant about the strategy yesterday was they were so
[05:35.520 -> 05:40.200] quick on changing from that hards to shofts and bringing in
[05:40.920 -> 05:44.360] Max early in sort of to do that undercut.
[05:45.000 -> 05:47.700] And I heard the commentators say that, you know,
[05:47.700 -> 05:53.800] this was sort of like a direct effect of Russell saying that he's struggling with his rears,
[05:53.800 -> 05:57.500] which Red Bull picked up on that, you know, hey, Russell said this.
[05:57.800 -> 06:01.000] So probably he's going to come into pits in the next five laps.
[06:01.000 -> 06:02.500] Let's go ahead with the pits.
[06:02.800 -> 06:08.120] So I don't know if it's and Russell was leading this race for the first time ever in his life.
[06:08.120 -> 06:11.800] I mean, excluding the Mercedes Bahrain thing that happened.
[06:13.200 -> 06:16.840] But this one was his show for real.
[06:17.360 -> 06:20.680] And I don't know if like that was that or he's just naive or because,
[06:21.240 -> 06:24.480] because I'm pretty sure if Hamilton was doing this, him saying,
[06:24.320 -> 06:24.880] or because I'm pretty sure if Hamilton was doing this, him saying,
[06:30.080 -> 06:33.040] my rears are not feeling right, would have actually meant I'm going to go on for 20 more laps.
[06:40.240 -> 06:47.560] Yeah, you're right. It was kind of a go away from him probably by talking about pit stops, right? Red Bull has again reached 2.1 seconds, Like just some time ago, you know, because of the regulation changes and everything,
[06:47.560 -> 06:48.800] all pitch stops became slower.
[06:48.800 -> 06:52.040] But I think this time they again reached 2.1 seconds, which is amazing.
[06:52.440 -> 06:57.040] It's somehow like the strongest point and yeah, I'm, I'm super,
[06:57.040 -> 06:59.840] I just keep getting impressed by Red Bull. It's like, you know,
[06:59.960 -> 07:03.760] I personally kind of get irritated of Christian Horner a lot of times,
[07:03.760 -> 07:07.880] like just because how much stuttering he does.
[07:07.880 -> 07:12.680] But I have to give it to him that unless you don't have a proper leader, the team cannot
[07:12.680 -> 07:14.080] be so cohesive.
[07:14.080 -> 07:16.320] So he's definitely working his magic there.
[07:16.320 -> 07:17.400] Yeah, I agree.
[07:17.400 -> 07:23.320] And I think Ferrari should, in my opinion, I think Ferrari should do similar to Red Bull
[07:23.320 -> 07:27.320] and maybe prioritize Charles Lec prioritize Charlotte in the championship.
[07:27.320 -> 07:27.820] Yeah.
[07:27.900 -> 07:33.680] Even, even some races before, because before Carlos was very much behind now
[07:33.680 -> 07:36.280] he's closed up, but it was very much behind.
[07:36.280 -> 07:41.000] And if they, they prioritize Charlene, let's say Silverstone, he would
[07:41.000 -> 07:45.680] have honestly won the race and the championship might have been a bit different.
[07:45.680 -> 07:49.360] Yeah, I think the mentality at Ferrari should be a bit questioned.
[07:49.360 -> 07:53.600] I thought when you started that sentence you were gonna say like bring Hannah Schmidt to Ferrari.
[07:53.600 -> 07:55.600] Oh, that as well.
[07:55.600 -> 07:57.600] Just copy everything.
[07:57.600 -> 08:03.600] 100% because who is it? Iñaki, I don't know who's the strategist at Ferrari.
[08:03.600 -> 08:05.840] Yeah, they come from Aston. because the who is it in that in yakky I don't know who's the strategist but I don't know
[08:05.840 -> 08:11.400] I feel like the guy has done some some madness over the years so I think it's time you know
[08:11.400 -> 08:16.160] what I think at this point we are we have pretty much kind of started talking about
[08:16.160 -> 08:25.640] it so let's let's get into the topic officially of to the Chad Red Bulls we have our Virgin Ferrari.
[08:25.640 -> 08:29.480] So let's address the elephant in the room.
[08:29.480 -> 08:37.080] Well first, as you said there, to bring back Jean Tod, I think it's a great idea or someone
[08:37.080 -> 08:41.080] who could have a similar mentality as we, I spoke about it.
[08:41.080 -> 08:43.640] Ferrari has that mentality to put the team first.
[08:43.640 -> 08:50.600] It's always has been, always will be. But if you look back at the time with Jean Tod, that wasn't the mentality.
[08:50.600 -> 08:56.520] It was Michael Schumacher. And that's it. He's number one and sorry, Rubens, but you're
[08:56.520 -> 09:01.800] behind and I think that should be the same. They've missed out on so many points this
[09:01.800 -> 09:10.500] year, which Charles could have had them. Yes. Yes, it's sad for Carlos, but he just shouldn't have made those mistakes at the start of the season.
[09:10.500 -> 09:14.400] So, I think there are some changes to be made.
[09:14.400 -> 09:15.100] I agree.
[09:15.100 -> 09:15.800] Certainly.
[09:15.800 -> 09:21.100] On that too, I feel like either do that or early on in the season, you know,
[09:21.100 -> 09:29.000] even the internet was told on this that the drivers have been calling their own shots. And we saw science do that in Monaco, which sort of
[09:29.000 -> 09:33.840] messed up with the whole Ferrari race and stuff. But looking at how the half
[09:33.840 -> 09:39.200] year has spanned out, I'm totally pro on drivers calling their own shots now.
[09:39.200 -> 09:46.720] Because they make their own strategy. Because I'm like, I'm like, LaClerc's driving. Okay.
[09:46.920 -> 09:51.280] And then he sees Alonzo and Ocon. Oh, they have the white ring on their tires.
[09:51.400 -> 09:54.120] That's I'm already lapping them lap 30.
[09:54.600 -> 09:56.560] That's what I'm not supposed to put on.
[09:57.920 -> 10:01.160] And then he hears on the radio, we're going to go on hards. Shut up.
[10:01.200 -> 10:02.520] We are never going to go on hards.
[10:07.120 -> 10:11.840] Oh man. So true man. And I think, you know, this is what I feel is Charles's weakness.
[10:11.840 -> 10:15.480] I would say that at times he is not assertive enough.
[10:15.520 -> 10:20.040] He oftentimes blames himself, which sometimes is good, but up to an extent,
[10:20.040 -> 10:24.680] I would say, I think he needs to kind of take command of the team,
[10:24.960 -> 10:26.240] honestly, like to think of it, if you go back to kind of take command of the team, honestly, like to think
[10:26.240 -> 10:31.480] of it, if you go back to Michael Schumacher, you know, like as we talked about, like he
[10:31.480 -> 10:33.480] himself did build a team around him as well.
[10:33.480 -> 10:36.480] It's not just that Ferrari kind of favored him.
[10:36.480 -> 10:42.880] It's also that he did get those people in those places that would favor him over his
[10:42.880 -> 10:43.880] teammate.
[10:43.880 -> 10:46.240] So I think Shalom also kind of needs to take that lead
[10:46.240 -> 10:52.800] in the team somewhat. I understand that but if we look like just on the strategy, I've heard people
[10:52.800 -> 10:59.040] say on the internet that it's maybe a weakness of him of not calling his own shots as a strategy.
[10:59.040 -> 11:06.560] But the thing is, I'm sorry, but that's not the driver's job. And for me, when has Max corrected the strategy?
[11:06.560 -> 11:08.720] Never, you know, because he can trust them.
[11:08.720 -> 11:11.920] And he knows that the only thing he has to do is drive and win.
[11:11.920 -> 11:13.040] That worked for him.
[11:13.040 -> 11:17.040] And I think that would work for Charles as well, if he could trust in the team.
[11:17.040 -> 11:19.840] But unfortunately, at the moment, he cannot.
[11:19.840 -> 11:22.160] Yeah, there's two things here, right?
[11:22.160 -> 11:29.320] Like, when we say that they need to step up, it's a direct correlation that the management there is weak, right?
[11:29.320 -> 11:33.060] Like because the management is weak, like the employees have to step up. That's one.
[11:33.160 -> 11:37.640] The other then too is, if you see, if you listen to the radio messages, right?
[11:37.640 -> 11:42.920] Like whenever Max is on radio, it's a very definite statement that this is what you're supposed to do.
[11:43.400 -> 11:47.400] Right. But whenever Ferrari, like either of the drivers, they are on radio,
[11:47.480 -> 11:50.000] we will get back to you. I mean, you don't want,
[11:53.120 -> 11:55.280] like give him some confidence, man.
[11:58.120 -> 12:00.760] At this point, this has become a meme actually. I'm not even kidding.
[12:04.400 -> 12:08.720] Oh yes. It's yeah, man. Something needs to happen. Something
[12:08.720 -> 12:14.880] needs to change. Like heads need to roll because things just aren't working out. I mean Ferrari
[12:14.880 -> 12:21.240] has pretty much squandered the opportunity. They should had won this championship clearly
[12:21.240 -> 12:25.600] but things just didn't go according to plan. Oh, by the way, for those who are listening
[12:25.600 -> 12:31.920] to this on audio, Roberto is giving homage to Ferrari.
[12:31.920 -> 12:39.160] I have a clown costume. I think it's very clear. It's a simple clown costume. I even
[12:39.160 -> 12:45.760] have the binodo glasses. What can I say? Yep.
[12:46.880 -> 12:51.040] Or we could also do it in this way where we don't shit on them and do what
[12:51.040 -> 12:54.240] Jeremy Clarkson was say. So I don't know if you saw this tweet.
[12:56.480 -> 12:59.720] We should now just call them being brilliant. Like let's just
[13:01.000 -> 13:02.000] Brilliant. They're so brilliant.
[13:02.000 -> 13:12.120] How to lose a race by Martial Binotto.
[13:12.120 -> 13:13.120] He should publish that book.
[13:13.120 -> 13:17.920] Sell it in tandem, like how to build a car.
[13:17.920 -> 13:21.600] And then if you are a Ferrari fan, you get this one free.
[13:21.600 -> 13:23.600] I think that would be so funny.
[13:23.600 -> 13:25.200] Imagine like at the end of the year, Adrien Newey just says, just gives to Binotto, you get this one free. That would be so funny. Imagine like at the end of the year,
[13:25.200 -> 13:30.240] Adria and Yui just says, just gives to Binota, you know what, take the book.
[13:36.320 -> 13:36.960] Oh God.
[13:41.360 -> 13:46.240] You know, this on another note and we'll come to Vettel, but like,
[13:46.240 -> 13:52.840] I feel like he left Ferrari because maybe he saw this mismanagement.
[13:52.840 -> 13:56.120] Cause I forget the name of the guy before Binotto.
[13:56.120 -> 13:58.880] Like Maurizio Rivabene. Yes. Thank you.
[13:59.160 -> 14:04.200] I'm sure they started prioritizing Charles, but I believe maybe,
[14:04.400 -> 14:05.960] this is just a conspiracy at this one
[14:05.960 -> 14:10.320] maybe Whittle saw into the management and he was like nope I'm out. The thing
[14:10.320 -> 14:13.360] the thing I don't know when you guys started watching but the thing is that
[14:13.360 -> 14:19.040] if you remember back in 2020 actually he didn't leave Ferrari he got fired.
[14:19.040 -> 14:26.000] He was kicked out. He was kicked out by Binotto. I don't remember this. Yeah, he was kicked off.
[14:26.000 -> 14:31.000] The reasons were that they couldn't rely on both drivers or something.
[14:31.000 -> 14:33.000] I don't know if that was it. I can't remember.
[14:33.000 -> 14:35.000] Are you serious? This is revolutionary.
[14:35.000 -> 14:37.000] Yes, I'm serious.
[14:37.000 -> 14:39.000] Wow.
[14:39.000 -> 14:45.120] And then they brought Carlos Sainz in and he beat Leclerc in the first year.
[14:45.680 -> 14:47.680] Yeah exactly.
[14:48.240 -> 14:54.080] As I said so yes Seb I think even with the 2020 Ferrari you know he had that Ferrari dream he
[14:54.080 -> 14:58.880] wanted to be like Michael Schumacher so honestly I think he would have stayed even till now he
[14:58.880 -> 15:03.200] would have stayed even if the strategies was bad even if the car was bad he would have stayed
[15:03.200 -> 15:05.520] because he has the passion. If you notice if you had seen even like the car was bad he would have said because he has the passion.
[15:11.840 -> 15:12.480] If you notice if you had seen even like the drive to survive scenes and from 2020 year the
[15:17.520 -> 15:24.000] the whole scene at Ferrari was so awkward like yeah there was a lot of tension which is very palpable you could see it it was yeah well I just thought he missed Kimi so I was like
[15:24.100 -> 15:32.900] Well, I just thought he missed Kimmy. So, I was like... There are these other memes where he's trying to hold Kimmy's hand.
[15:32.900 -> 15:39.200] No, man. But yeah, Ferrari's been messing up.
[15:39.200 -> 15:50.480] And it's hard to see this happen because I think it's safe to say that all of us on this on this episode right now have been seeing the sport for almost a decade now.
[15:50.760 -> 15:58.600] And we've seen like the true nature of Ferrari and then you know how it's sort of gone from there to what it is right now.
[15:58.720 -> 16:08.960] Yeah, man. Like this race, especially like I was really like I was really angry after the race, you know, like the more I thought about the race after the race finished, I was like,
[16:08.960 -> 16:12.240] wait, what the f**k happened? Why did this happen?
[16:12.240 -> 16:16.880] Charles had it in his hands and then it just went away.
[16:16.880 -> 16:19.600] Stupid strategy calls.
[16:19.600 -> 16:22.960] Yeah, and it wasn't spontaneous.
[16:22.960 -> 16:27.120] It wasn't like, okay, well, we do now, you know, they saw that our Alpine
[16:27.160 -> 16:29.180] Alpine had the hard tires.
[16:29.240 -> 16:31.640] They saw that they were very slow on the hard tires.
[16:32.000 -> 16:37.360] They saw that they had no pace and they said, you know, that's the best decision.
[16:38.160 -> 16:39.240] That's perfect for him.
[16:39.760 -> 16:40.240] I don't know.
[16:40.320 -> 16:47.400] Again, I think they should have tested it on Carlos. But once again, the mentality of prioritizing Charles.
[16:47.400 -> 16:50.600] And then putting Charles on Carlos' strategy.
[16:50.600 -> 16:53.280] So he could be in front because he's fighting for the championship.
[16:53.280 -> 16:56.600] But yeah, weird strategy calls.
[16:56.600 -> 16:59.600] And then they were like, how do we mess up Carlos now?
[16:59.600 -> 17:02.480] So let's do a backflip stop while we are at it.
[17:02.480 -> 17:06.080] I think he had one of them was 4.7 seconds and
[17:06.080 -> 17:14.080] the other one was also like some 4.7 seconds. It's terrible all around. The other thing I heard
[17:15.200 -> 17:21.040] and I for the nth time I can never distinguish the voice between Brundle and Ted on the commentary
[17:21.040 -> 17:25.340] box but so one of them was saying that before the race
[17:25.340 -> 17:30.220] started, Ferrari had already said that they're gonna start with mediums
[17:30.220 -> 17:35.060] and then go to mediums, which immediately said, right, you know, because
[17:35.060 -> 17:39.860] you need to have two different compounds, like it told the whole pit that they're
[17:39.860 -> 17:46.880] gonna be able to stop strategy. And we just made everyone else adjust because if they are the front runners,
[17:46.880 -> 17:52.400] Mercedes and Red Bull quickly adapted to that. I'm like, first of all, never reveal your shorts.
[17:54.880 -> 17:59.840] Yeah. Well, at this point, really, they should just fire the strategist and just copy whatever
[17:59.840 -> 18:07.960] Red Bull does, you know, just mimic them. You will still end up second. No matter what. I thought Binod did that. I thought, because if you,
[18:08.040 -> 18:11.840] if you see the race again, like five to 10 laps before the race finished,
[18:11.860 -> 18:13.680] he walked off from the pit wall and went away.
[18:17.560 -> 18:20.400] What is the guy doing? He fucked up both drivers.
[18:24.560 -> 18:29.880] That was like a mic drop. That was like a mic drop that was like a mic drop yeah I'm my work is done
[18:29.880 -> 18:35.600] here I'm off to my summer break literally you wouldn't see Toto Walsh
[18:35.600 -> 18:39.680] doing that or Christian Horner you know never yeah never Toto would bang on the
[18:39.680 -> 18:47.000] table but that's it uh-huh yeah's it. He would break a dozen of headphones and stuff. He has a company lying next to him.
[18:47.000 -> 18:55.500] He'd be the next one. There's an intern specially for that. Yeah, man. And even the commentators were so surprised.
[18:55.500 -> 19:01.000] Like, where is he going? And then, I just see him going into the motorhome. He's having his coffee.
[19:01.000 -> 19:09.280] And the commentators like, he's already having his coffee he's on a summer break what is he doing and even they give up like okay on to the race like
[19:09.280 -> 19:12.880] they're like we don't want to talk about this shit.
[19:12.880 -> 19:17.440] And talking about Total Wolf and Mercedes we can see that they're actually getting closer
[19:17.440 -> 19:31.500] to Ferrari because they've effed up so many times that Mercedes is closing up so much in the constructors and I feel like it's more of a possibility for Mercedes to catch up Ferrari than Ferrari to catch up Red Bull.
[19:31.500 -> 19:44.000] Yes, on that note, there is a great stat, but Russell actually overtook Science in World Driver Championship and Russell now sits at 158 with Science at 156.
[19:44.000 -> 19:48.000] Really? I didn't notice that. I didn't look at the championship. It's already happening.
[19:48.000 -> 19:59.000] You'll see Lewis at the end finish second in the championship ahead of the HR predictions. That's possible. You heard it here first. Mark my words.
[19:59.000 -> 20:09.800] Talking again about Mercedes, Russell again did a great job in qualifying to put it on pole, you know, and out of nowhere because none of his sectors were purple.
[20:09.800 -> 20:11.680] It was all green, green, green pole position.
[20:11.680 -> 20:12.180] Oh yeah.
[20:12.180 -> 20:12.680] Yeah.
[20:12.680 -> 20:13.180] Yeah.
[20:13.180 -> 20:15.180] I didn't feel like a pole position.
[20:15.180 -> 20:15.680] Yeah.
[20:15.680 -> 20:16.180] Yeah.
[20:16.180 -> 20:18.040] It was, it was crazy.
[20:18.040 -> 20:19.000] I really enjoyed that.
[20:19.000 -> 20:28.320] And, uh, yes, as, uh, Louis had the, the misfortune to have the DRS broken in quali because honestly he could
[20:28.320 -> 20:32.560] have had a very maybe challenge for the win in my opinion.
[20:32.560 -> 20:33.560] That's actually possible.
[20:33.560 -> 20:35.880] You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I totally agree.
[20:35.880 -> 20:43.760] I think kind of Hamilton's drive was overshadowed by Max's win because Hamilton did drive like
[20:43.760 -> 20:45.220] a really good race.
[20:50.400 -> 20:51.920] If you really think about it, because I don't think like P7 in a Mercedes was really a great place to start with.
[20:52.460 -> 20:56.280] And, uh, he capitalized on every single aspect that he could, again, of
[20:56.280 -> 20:57.880] course he went long on his tires.
[20:57.880 -> 21:01.560] So, you know, that's kind of his specialty at this point.
[21:02.280 -> 21:04.040] And, uh, man, I love it.
[21:04.400 -> 21:08.000] Especially the start man, the double overtake on Alpines.
[21:08.000 -> 21:15.000] That was really awesome. And even the off topic, but Daniel Ricardo's overtake on the Alpines.
[21:15.000 -> 21:22.000] When both of the Alpines like battled each other and Daniel just swooped around and that was funny.
[21:22.000 -> 21:25.840] Daniel gave me this mixed reactions throughout the race.
[21:25.840 -> 21:30.800] Because at the start of the race, K-Mag was breathing down Daniel's neck.
[21:30.800 -> 21:36.240] And if you remember, it was such a neck and neck that K-Mag almost overtook Daniel.
[21:36.240 -> 21:39.240] And I was like, what is Daniel doing?
[21:39.240 -> 21:41.240] It's been one and a half year.
[21:41.240 -> 21:46.780] Either he's a bad driver or the engineers are not able to make a
[21:46.780 -> 21:51.600] car and the engineers I don't have experience or both of them are talking
[21:51.600 -> 21:57.560] in different languages that they understand. But then he goes ahead and
[21:57.560 -> 22:05.720] does this double overtake on Alpine and I'm like no Daniel is still in there. And then he bumps off stroll and gets a five.
[22:07.720 -> 22:10.680] Dude, one race you can't.
[22:12.840 -> 22:13.200] Yeah, man. But yeah,
[22:17.240 -> 22:18.080] that double overtake is a glimpse that I saw of the old Daniel that we knew of in Red Bull.
[22:18.240 -> 22:21.840] But pretty much that's the only thing I saw through the days where he kind of
[22:21.840 -> 22:25.360] shunned. But otherwise, man, I feel sad for him, man.
[22:25.360 -> 22:29.080] But at the same time, it's at this point, it's like it's getting irritating that, you
[22:29.080 -> 22:34.160] know, there are a lot of other people who are kind of waiting in line.
[22:34.160 -> 22:39.640] But if we if we move a bit more, if we start with them, with what kicked off the weekend,
[22:39.640 -> 22:46.440] them announcing no first even shocking news, Seb is on social media. The biggest news of the week.
[22:46.440 -> 22:49.200] Seb is on social media.
[22:49.200 -> 22:51.080] I had a great time at that point.
[22:51.080 -> 22:54.360] And then after that, 12 hours later, depression.
[22:54.360 -> 22:55.360] I saw that.
[22:55.360 -> 22:56.960] I saw his account popping up.
[22:56.960 -> 22:59.200] And at that point, there was just like 1000 followers.
[22:59.200 -> 23:03.240] So I was like, probably this is a fake account because Seb can't join Instagram.
[23:03.240 -> 23:04.240] That's not possible.
[23:04.240 -> 23:06.840] I even messaged Akash. I'm like, I think this is a scam. I don't think this is a fake account because Seb can't join Instagram. That's not possible. I even messaged Akash and said, yeah, I think this is a scam.
[23:06.840 -> 23:08.920] I don't, I don't think this is a real account.
[23:08.920 -> 23:13.960] And then, and then like you, you, uh, you refresh a couple of times and he has 1 million,
[23:13.960 -> 23:14.960] you know?
[23:14.960 -> 23:15.960] Uh huh.
[23:15.960 -> 23:16.960] Yeah, exactly.
[23:16.960 -> 23:21.400] So yeah, it was for me, it was a surprise because I thought Seb would, so would continue
[23:21.400 -> 23:26.480] with Aston because I thought even if they had a couple of bad races I
[23:26.480 -> 23:32.880] think they yeah I think he still believed in that project but but you know it came to the point where
[23:33.520 -> 23:39.840] stopped and we had the news drop news drop today Fernando is joining Aston out of nowhere
[23:42.400 -> 23:46.360] yeah not at all yeah That was a big surprise.
[23:46.360 -> 23:51.680] But a couple of people on the internet did add the two and two together because I saw
[23:51.680 -> 23:57.960] I then saw a old interview where Seb was asked when will you come to social media because
[23:57.960 -> 24:03.640] you are nowhere and he had said that the day I know when I'm gonna retire I'll join social
[24:03.640 -> 24:09.040] media and as soon as he did create an account account, a few pages that I follow on Instagram
[24:09.040 -> 24:11.320] were like, retirement is incoming.
[24:11.960 -> 24:15.880] But then his bio said, there's still a win left.
[24:15.880 -> 24:19.160] So I'm like, okay, okay, this is not.
[24:19.800 -> 24:22.520] But yeah, that was a heartbreak.
[24:22.720 -> 24:26.600] If we go now again with the silly season going around.
[24:26.600 -> 24:28.600] Fernando now is at Aston.
[24:28.600 -> 24:30.100] Who gets the Alpine seed?
[24:30.100 -> 24:31.600] Is it Piastri?
[24:31.600 -> 24:34.800] So yeah, you were saying Oscar Piastri might get it, right?
[24:34.800 -> 24:37.600] I feel like Oscar Piastri will get it.
[24:37.600 -> 24:40.300] But if you look at Daniel's point of view,
[24:40.300 -> 24:42.700] who's not getting well at McLaren,
[24:42.700 -> 24:43.800] like at all.
[24:43.800 -> 24:46.100] I feel like he would want to come
[24:46.100 -> 24:52.740] back but come back yeah but will Alpine want him back I don't know okay at this
[24:52.740 -> 24:57.900] point this does sound like some drama like a soap opera or something that we are talking about
[24:57.900 -> 25:04.960] I know but I'm telling you Daniel is not doing good at McLaren like we
[25:04.960 -> 25:07.280] need to stop hiding it he He's doing very bad.
[25:07.280 -> 25:15.360] He doesn't like the car. He doesn't, I don't know. If I was him, I would switch to be honest.
[25:15.360 -> 25:27.000] For folks confused on why we are saying come back. Alpine, if you're new to this, Alpine was originally Renault where someone got a tattoo because...
[25:29.280 -> 25:32.960] Anyways, there's a whole can of worms there. Go check out Renault and Alpine.
[25:32.960 -> 25:34.400] But yeah, there you have the context.
[25:34.400 -> 25:38.320] There is a couple of contentions there, right? Like there's Oscar Piastri.
[25:38.320 -> 25:44.640] For one, I also feel with all the silly season shuffling going on, there is Liam Newsom.
[25:44.640 -> 25:46.400] Sorry, I'm saying that wrong.
[25:46.400 -> 25:46.880] Lawson.
[25:46.880 -> 25:49.040] Lawson. Thank you. Liam Lawson.
[25:49.040 -> 25:51.840] I think you got confused with Liam Newson.
[25:51.840 -> 26:00.000] I did. Yes, I did. Who's doing wonderful at F2 at this point. So maybe he's also... And he's a
[26:00.000 -> 26:08.680] reserve driver for two, three teams at this point too,? So like, he's also got a shot. Yeah. But if we look, Liam Lawson is a Red Bull Academy driver.
[26:09.160 -> 26:10.680] Yes, he's a Alpine.
[26:11.240 -> 26:13.400] Alpine. Yeah. He's got a better shot for sure.
[26:13.840 -> 26:18.400] But did you see this other statement that I, for a very long time,
[26:18.400 -> 26:23.080] I did think Mick might get it because Seb came out with a statement that I have
[26:23.080 -> 26:29.600] been talking with the management. I do have my opinions I cannot speak very objectively but I see very highly of
[26:29.600 -> 26:34.080] Mick and that to me was like he's just hinting that Mick is gonna get his seat
[26:34.080 -> 26:42.160] but it didn't happen. I've also heard rumors about Gasly potentially being in talks
[26:42.160 -> 26:46.080] because that would be a dream team, right? A French team.
[26:48.640 -> 26:55.120] Yeah. And Gasly Pierre is looking to get out of AlphaTauri for a couple of years now because
[26:55.120 -> 27:01.040] he's never going to win a world championship at AlphaTauri. This could be a very good thing for
[27:01.040 -> 27:05.920] for Pierre. It's a brilliant mid-season Russian roulette that they play.
[27:08.160 -> 27:12.800] Yeah, from okay so like kind of getting back to Vettel that we were talking about,
[27:12.800 -> 27:18.560] from what I've heard that two things that kind of happened because of which he kind of decided to
[27:18.560 -> 27:23.280] retire. One was that Alpine was creating this pressure, sorry Aston Martin was creating this
[27:23.280 -> 27:30.240] pressure on him that he needs to give an answer before the summer break because they want some time in case he's not
[27:30.240 -> 27:35.680] willing to continue to kind of try and find a good driver. So that was one thing and I think another
[27:35.680 -> 27:41.360] thing overall from what I mean the video that he posted and also the things that he has been saying
[27:41.360 -> 27:46.060] overall is like he kind of has reached a point where he kind of does realize that he has been saying overall is like, he kind of has reached a point where
[27:46.060 -> 27:52.860] he kind of does realize that he holds this position where he can make a big difference
[27:52.860 -> 27:57.300] in a lot of things and he can at least use his voice in the things he believes in.
[27:57.300 -> 28:03.980] I think that's also probably a major driving factor for why he joined Instagram was a to
[28:03.980 -> 28:06.480] you know, kind of maintain a medium of communication
[28:06.480 -> 28:12.560] with folks and try to drive his you know topics of interest to people and the work that he's doing.
[28:12.560 -> 28:18.240] So I think that's also probably like one of the factors that played into his decision. Walk the
[28:18.240 -> 28:28.360] walk and not talk the walk. Yeah. I want to ask you this Roberto, a few people know this but you are a super
[28:28.360 -> 28:37.040] die-hard fan for Vettel. I am a super die-hard fan. What do you have in your collection and then how did this news hit you?
[28:37.040 -> 28:42.200] You've seen Vettel in person so I'm assuming this news hit you more harder
[28:42.200 -> 28:47.000] than us at least. Yeah well yes because when I started watching Formula One,
[28:47.320 -> 28:51.720] from that point, I knew I was with Seb because he made he made a move.
[28:52.040 -> 28:55.040] I still remember if you type on Google, YouTube, whatever.
[28:55.400 -> 28:59.160] Monza 2011 overtake on Fernando Alonso.
[28:59.680 -> 29:03.840] OK. Run the outside of turn one, two, three of Curva Grande
[29:04.520 -> 29:07.480] there on the grass. he overtook Fernando.
[29:07.480 -> 29:11.800] And from that point, my dad, you know, massive Ferrari fan.
[29:11.800 -> 29:14.040] He was with Fernando, but me, no, no, no.
[29:14.040 -> 29:17.200] I was from that move, I was like, I'm with Seb.
[29:17.200 -> 29:19.160] And I was forever with Seb.
[29:19.160 -> 29:22.880] And yes, yes, I was, I was very sad because, you know,
[29:22.880 -> 29:27.760] it's your hero and you won't get to see him every weekend on TV
[29:27.760 -> 29:33.680] and stuff like that. But at some point he had to move on. Every driver needs to move on. So
[29:33.680 -> 29:40.880] I respect his decision. Funny you say that because for me and you mentioned 2011 because I think it
[29:40.880 -> 29:45.880] was around the same time. I liked Seb but then multi
[29:45.880 -> 29:53.120] 21 happened. Multi 21. I was like I hate this guy. I hate him. I am going to protect him. Let's talk about that.
[29:53.120 -> 30:00.960] No, no, no. Let's talk about that. So I was like anyone who's beating Vettel, I'll support that guy.
[30:00.960 -> 30:08.460] Just because of that one incident. Just because of that. And then he came to Ferrari and then his career
[30:08.460 -> 30:14.940] graph since then and I was like, I was like, okay, maybe there is that just one event and he's learned out of it and he knew he
[30:14.940 -> 30:20.100] made a mistake. He should not have done that. He even said it in the press, right? Like I should not have done that. Like
[30:20.100 -> 30:26.640] looking back. Multi 21? Yeah. Sepp said that. No, no, no. Literally a couple of weeks ago,
[30:26.640 -> 30:32.400] he did an interview with someone, I don't know, I think a YouTuber, maybe not. And he was asked,
[30:32.400 -> 30:36.160] would you do something any different? And he said, no, I think, I think you need to give
[30:36.160 -> 30:42.560] some context to our listeners. Yes. So before, before Roberto and I get into this, this thing,
[30:42.560 -> 30:46.340] what we are going to talk about right now. Wait, let me grab some popcorn.
[30:46.340 -> 30:56.940] What we are getting into is, don't quote me on the year, Malaysia Grand Prix, I want to say 2011, but don't quote me on the year. Go find this out.
[30:56.940 -> 30:58.940] Mark and Vettel.
[30:58.940 -> 31:06.720] 2013. Thank you. Thank you. Mark and Vettel, Mark Weber, an ex-Formula One driver with Red Bull Racing,
[31:06.720 -> 31:13.520] was leading the race. Vettel was P2. It was almost towards the end of the race. The strategists had
[31:13.520 -> 31:20.440] called that it should be Mark leading and Vettel finishing 1 and 2 position. But Vettel had faster
[31:20.440 -> 31:27.280] pace and then he decides to overtake Mark in a very risky way on turn 1 and 2 to take P1
[31:27.280 -> 31:33.920] position and they then get into a sort of cold war situation in the cool down room where Mark
[31:33.920 -> 31:39.840] keeps saying Vettel multi 21 multi 2 1 what were you doing so that's that's the context and that
[31:39.840 -> 31:48.480] pissed me off and then we have Roberto here saying he's gonna defend so let the battle begin.
[31:49.360 -> 31:54.800] You will see that after my defending you will see that he did nothing wrong.
[31:55.440 -> 32:06.360] Okay, for that incident you have to go back to the year before, 2012 at the finale, at the last rate, when said, and Fernando, I
[32:06.400 -> 32:07.640] are fighting for the championship.
[32:08.120 -> 32:12.300] And if you remember, I turned one or not another one, I like turn three or
[32:12.300 -> 32:16.560] something, said gets hit he's at the back and then he makes his way up.
[32:17.200 -> 32:22.040] But then he's at a point who were caught on to many, many people.
[32:22.520 -> 32:24.280] And he's just behind Mark.
[32:24.780 -> 32:27.280] And at that point, Mark is not letting him through.
[32:27.280 -> 32:28.580] He's not.
[32:28.580 -> 32:30.300] And Seb is fighting for the championship.
[32:30.300 -> 32:34.520] And at that point, if the race finished there, Alonso would be world champion.
[32:34.520 -> 32:36.320] And Marc didn't let him pass.
[32:36.320 -> 32:39.280] And he had to ask again and again and again.
[32:39.280 -> 32:42.200] And at the very end, he let Seb pass and he won.
[32:42.200 -> 32:44.840] And he didn't win, but he won the championship.
[32:44.840 -> 32:45.680] Okay.
[32:51.600 -> 32:52.480] That first, you have to say like, he could have costed the world championship to say, you know,
[32:58.400 -> 33:02.560] now we move on to 2013 to Malaysia. It's the second race of the season. They both know that they had, they have the fastest car and they both know that they can win the championship.
[33:02.560 -> 33:08.400] Yes. Why would one driver settle for a second when he knows he has the best car
[33:08.400 -> 33:11.500] and he knows that the person ahead could win the championship as well?
[33:11.500 -> 33:16.600] Because we say that, oh, well, Seb should have let him win, but it was the second race.
[33:16.600 -> 33:19.000] He didn't win nine races in a row.
[33:19.000 -> 33:20.600] It was the second race.
[33:20.600 -> 33:24.300] And at that point, both, everyone can win the championship.
[33:24.300 -> 33:26.320] So I don't see why Sep should stay
[33:26.880 -> 33:33.040] behind. My defense there is that it's just the second race. What Mark did probably, I mean,
[33:33.040 -> 33:38.080] I never followed Mark, so I don't care about him anyways. But what Mark did was probably wrong. But
[33:38.080 -> 33:42.880] again, that was towards the end of the season. Sure, maybe Vettel's thinking like, I'll never
[33:42.880 -> 33:46.560] get this opportunity to sort of do an eye for an eye situation here.
[33:46.560 -> 33:50.320] So, let me just, you know, take my take mind what was back then.
[33:50.320 -> 33:54.760] But it was just the second race. He could have waited.
[33:54.760 -> 33:58.880] Yeah, but at that point, it was the start of the championship.
[33:58.880 -> 34:00.480] Mark could have won the championship.
[34:00.480 -> 34:03.000] Imagine if Mark won the championship by seven points.
[34:03.000 -> 34:04.440] And the victory…
[34:04.440 -> 34:06.520] That's something I would have not have liked for sure.
[34:06.520 -> 34:10.560] Anywho, we are back.
[34:10.560 -> 34:15.400] It's just the passion that drives us.
[34:15.400 -> 34:19.680] Even after all of this, both of us are Vettel fans.
[34:19.680 -> 34:20.920] So, it's just...
[34:20.920 -> 34:21.720] There you go.
[34:21.720 -> 34:25.760] What was happening? It's just... Exactly.
[34:37.200 -> 34:40.600] What was happening? Because we are on Vettel, did he take sort of this fun way of revenge on, what was it, Pierre or Ocon from France? Who tapped him out and then he tapped someone out this weekend, right?
[34:40.600 -> 34:42.600] I think Pierre, right? Pierre?
[34:42.600 -> 34:44.600] I think two people tapped him out last time.
[34:44.600 -> 34:48.320] Yeah, I think last time... No, it wasn't last time. Wasn't it Austria?
[34:48.320 -> 34:52.320] Or maybe I'm getting it. Was it Austria? Yeah, it is Austria.
[34:52.320 -> 34:56.320] He spun out with Kimi the year before.
[34:56.320 -> 35:00.320] Yeah, and this year it was Albon. Albon and Gavsli.
[35:00.320 -> 35:04.320] The main race was Albon and the main race was Gavsli.
[35:04.320 -> 35:06.960] And I think he tapped Albon.
[35:06.960 -> 35:08.640] That was his fault in Hungary.
[35:08.640 -> 35:10.240] But that's fine.
[35:10.240 -> 35:12.560] I thought it was somewhat of a revenge for him.
[35:12.560 -> 35:21.200] For the first time, I was gonna, while I was making notes, I was like, okay, Albon is last.
[35:21.200 -> 35:24.480] And then Latifi will be second last.
[35:24.480 -> 35:29.360] And I'm like, your 2022, your best finish for Latifi
[35:29.360 -> 35:32.080] because he finishes not 20th, but 19th.
[35:32.080 -> 35:33.600] And I'm like, yes, yes.
[35:33.600 -> 35:35.520] But no, he finished last.
[35:35.520 -> 35:36.000] So I'm like...
[35:40.400 -> 35:43.760] But speaking of him, P1, FP3.
[35:44.400 -> 35:45.000] FP3. FP3.
[35:45.000 -> 35:46.000] The goat.
[35:46.000 -> 35:47.000] Yes.
[35:47.000 -> 35:48.000] Even Charles was surprised.
[35:48.000 -> 35:49.000] Even Charles was surprised.
[35:49.000 -> 35:50.000] Even he was surprised.
[35:50.000 -> 35:51.000] Even Latifi was surprised.
[35:51.000 -> 35:58.000] He comes on to the radio and says, is that clapping for me?
[35:58.000 -> 35:59.000] Yep.
[35:59.000 -> 36:00.000] Oh man.
[36:00.000 -> 36:11.360] Yeah. But still, I think Vettel had a very good race comparatively.
[36:11.360 -> 36:17.560] Like he reached the points, one point, but still, I guess considering how the performance
[36:17.560 -> 36:22.080] has been for Aston Martin overall, great for him.
[36:22.080 -> 36:27.360] I'm sad that he's leaving. I personally started watching like F1 since I think
[36:27.360 -> 36:35.760] 2016, 2017 something like that. I forget. So like I used to support Ferrari back then when Vettel
[36:35.760 -> 36:42.160] was there but then the way they treated him I kind of stopped supporting Ferrari after that.
[36:42.880 -> 36:46.400] But yeah it's sad to go. I can't imagine F1 without Vettel.
[36:46.400 -> 36:50.900] At least my time that I have followed F1, Vettel has always been there.
[36:50.900 -> 36:52.400] So yeah, let's see.
[36:52.400 -> 36:53.700] It's going to be a big change.
[36:53.700 -> 36:57.300] Same for me, you know, even when when Louis is going to retire and
[36:57.300 -> 37:01.700] Fernando is going to retire for the second time and you know, Daniel is
[37:01.700 -> 37:04.700] going to retire, like the grid is going to be completely different and
[37:04.700 -> 37:09.000] it's going to be the first time that we're not gonna see Louis, Seb
[37:09.000 -> 37:13.720] and Fernando for like 14-20 years you know. That's right.
[37:13.720 -> 37:18.600] Crazy. Yeah all my time that I can remember I remember Alonso on the grid
[37:18.600 -> 37:30.140] Kimmy on the grid. 2007. The old card is leaving. Alonzo versus Hamilton. Such great memories.
[37:30.140 -> 37:35.780] Speaking of Vettel getting that point yesterday, just a note there. Do you think
[37:35.780 -> 37:39.900] it was team orders between Stroll and Vettel? Because there was this helicopter
[37:39.900 -> 37:46.560] cam view that showed Vettel passed on to P10 and it felt like Stroll just gave him the place.
[37:46.560 -> 37:49.200] Was it that or did he actually overtake him?
[37:49.200 -> 37:53.320] I think it was definitely team orders but it was definitely team orders.
[37:53.320 -> 37:58.360] But Seb had a very good pace, more pace than Lannister arguably.
[37:58.360 -> 38:04.040] And he started P18, you know, and even they double stacked Aston in the pit stop at one
[38:04.040 -> 38:05.600] point. So Seb was even
[38:05.600 -> 38:11.920] oh really I missed that yeah I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure 95% and then said even after that he
[38:11.920 -> 38:17.440] made the time back and he got behind Lance yeah and in the end he he finished at less than one
[38:17.440 -> 38:25.280] second from Ocon yes so he could have gotten him so it in orders, but he did have a better case.
[38:25.560 -> 38:27.200] True. True. True. True. True.
[38:27.400 -> 38:31.080] And it's not like, it's not like Lance is letting him pass every race, you know,
[38:31.080 -> 38:33.040] in Canada, Seb let him pass.
[38:33.400 -> 38:33.800] Yeah.
[38:33.800 -> 38:37.120] Seb let him pass and he was able to overtake Daniel and so on.
[38:37.800 -> 38:40.640] And then last race, he was almost gonna run into Stroll.
[38:40.640 -> 38:42.000] So, yeah.
[38:42.000 -> 38:42.960] At the last corner.
[38:42.960 -> 38:43.480] That was crazy.
[38:43.480 -> 38:44.360] Face on moment.
[38:44.360 -> 38:48.000] The face. What the hell. That was crazy.
[38:48.000 -> 38:52.000] No, that's true. That's true. What else? Coming back to Mercedes, actually.
[38:52.000 -> 38:56.000] There's a few things we diverged there.
[38:56.000 -> 39:00.000] Anything that stands out with Mercedes
[39:00.000 -> 39:04.000] that we want to talk about before we move on? I think one
[39:04.000 -> 39:08.000] thing that we probably have to talk about is, you know, the growth that they
[39:08.000 -> 39:12.720] have done through this season, like, because at the start of the season, it didn't seem
[39:12.720 -> 39:14.360] like they were anywhere, right?
[39:14.360 -> 39:18.600] Like, it was, they were not even in top 10 probably at that time.
[39:18.600 -> 39:23.520] And man, they have like really, really clawed their way back up.
[39:23.520 -> 39:25.760] This performance was of course like Ferrari
[39:25.760 -> 39:31.360] messed up true but still they were still driving a very good race. Russell was you know fighting
[39:31.360 -> 39:37.040] for the positions on pace it was not just some you know like crazy red flags or some kind of
[39:37.040 -> 39:42.160] a situation like that. And yeah and and since the start of the season even if they had a very poor
[39:42.160 -> 39:46.480] car they've always taken advantage of stuff that is happening
[39:46.480 -> 39:52.240] externally, you know, and Bahrain and Australia, when Red Bull had those PNFs, they were there,
[39:52.240 -> 39:58.480] they scored massive points, they were there in Canada when Charles had the penalty in Pauly.
[40:00.480 -> 40:05.000] Even today, Ferrari messes up, Mercedes is here, you know? Yeah, exactly.
[40:05.000 -> 40:09.000] They're always there and they're always taking advantage and that's great.
[40:09.000 -> 40:14.000] To see them actually be there, I was a bit skeptical at the start of the season because, you know,
[40:14.000 -> 40:19.000] it's the first time really where they have a fit car since seven years.
[40:19.000 -> 40:29.160] So I was very curious to see how they were getting to build that team around, build that team up and they managed very well and I think they have a very positive second
[40:29.160 -> 40:35.280] half coming. I want to take the tone a bit sarcastic here. How much have they
[40:35.280 -> 40:39.920] and it's a conspiracy and a dramatic tone here for the whole audience
[40:39.920 -> 40:46.140] listening to this. How much is it a result of better engineering and how
[40:46.140 -> 40:52.000] much is it a result of Toto complaining to FIA, please change the regulations?
[40:52.000 -> 41:03.780] I mean everything, every team needs to do that, you know, because if they're in a bad position
[41:03.780 -> 41:09.360] they're not gonna say, okay, well, you know what, we're going to do double the work. No, no, no, no, they want it easy.
[41:09.360 -> 41:16.000] Everyone wants it easy. Yeah, I mean, if you know, for people on the internet saying Toto's
[41:16.000 -> 41:21.200] been complaining a lot on Mercedes for this matter, and we only talk about these top three
[41:21.200 -> 41:25.520] things, three teams, but there are other teams in the Mercedes camp as well,
[41:25.520 -> 41:30.320] which are doing the same thing. But if the tables were reversed and if Christian Oner
[41:30.320 -> 41:36.640] and his gang was on the side of not having a good car, Christian would have also breathed
[41:36.640 -> 41:39.320] down FIA's neck to change regulations. 100%.
[41:39.320 -> 41:46.000] It's just a fair game. It's part of the game. I mean, it is a part of the game.
[41:46.040 -> 41:46.880] So yeah.
[41:47.200 -> 41:47.520] Yeah.
[41:47.520 -> 41:48.320] Fair play to them.
[41:50.160 -> 41:54.800] I think like this was a good race for like getting into the summer break.
[41:54.800 -> 41:59.160] Like it, it was exactly exemplified what team is where, you know, if you really
[41:59.160 -> 42:03.640] think about it, Red Bull doing perfectly fine, you know, Mercedes improving
[42:03.640 -> 42:05.320] massively, Ferrari just.
[42:06.400 -> 42:14.960] It'd be Ferrari. Exactly. And yeah, I think it's going to be a good
[42:15.240 -> 42:20.240] summer break for two teams, not for Ferrari, but they need to, I think,
[42:20.240 -> 42:28.440] bounce back when they return. I hope so. I hope something changes, man., man. It's, it's sad to see like the championship just going away.
[42:28.640 -> 42:32.400] Actually it's gone at this point because from the stats that I've read, uh,
[42:32.440 -> 42:34.800] Ford like, uh,
[42:35.480 -> 42:40.080] all Max has to do is just come second every time Charles comes first and that's
[42:40.080 -> 42:41.840] it. And he wins the championship.
[42:41.880 -> 42:46.000] Hey, but Benotto said he's confident that they can win every race
[42:46.000 -> 42:52.400] from here. So yeah and they've already lost one. They've lost one because they said 10 races.
[42:52.400 -> 42:58.400] They can win all 10 races. Now there's nine left. So in nine races left and Red Bull being so
[42:58.400 -> 43:07.000] consistent, I'm sorry but the championship is gone. They threw it away. Like they threw it away with Seb, like Fernando, like Felipe, all of them.
[43:07.000 -> 43:14.000] Well, this is a discussion that Sarang and I were having over the weekend, Roberto, which is,
[43:14.000 -> 43:20.000] we believe that Charles still, I mean, he's a great driver. Nothing against him.
[43:20.000 -> 43:26.080] But like, you still need to have this built up material as a person to be a world
[43:26.080 -> 43:31.920] driving championship which Max has which Lewis obviously has. But Charles still doesn't. He still
[43:31.920 -> 43:38.000] needs a season or two to mature to that level of being a world driving championship from within.
[43:39.040 -> 43:43.280] Because Max is eating him as a person. As a person not on the track but as a person.
[43:43.280 -> 43:43.920] eating him as a person. As a person, not on the track, but as a person.
[43:50.560 -> 43:54.800] No, I agree. I agree. But I feel like I don't really agree with... No, I don't really agree with saying that he's not championship material. It's an opinion. It's all good. But...
[43:57.760 -> 44:10.400] I need to reflect. Wait. Yeah, because it is true that he did crack under pressure. That's something, you know, in France, uh, it was completely his fault, completely.
[44:10.400 -> 44:15.680] Even in Imola, Imola, when he's from the car into the barrier, completely his fault, you
[44:15.680 -> 44:21.800] know, but you say that, okay, that's his fault, but he take, he took blame blame for that,
[44:21.800 -> 44:30.160] you know, and I feel like every race he matures. And as you said, but you see that even, uh, drivers like Lewis, you say that
[44:30.160 -> 44:35.360] they're championship material, but if we look last year in him, he put it in the barrier and
[44:35.360 -> 44:38.880] he, he's still championship material.
[44:38.880 -> 44:41.920] One mistake doesn't define your whole season, your whole career.
[44:42.640 -> 44:43.760] So it is true.
[44:43.760 -> 44:46.880] It is true that he hasn't been as strong as Max Verstappen.
[44:46.920 -> 44:48.240] That's a hundred percent true.
[44:48.440 -> 44:51.400] But I still think that he is championship material.
[44:52.200 -> 44:52.800] That's my opinion.
[44:52.800 -> 44:56.200] Who else on the grid do you think is championship material?
[44:56.880 -> 44:58.520] Honestly, Fernando.
[44:59.360 -> 44:59.880] Obviously.
[44:59.880 -> 45:02.480] Honestly, he is a hundred percent.
[45:03.440 -> 45:06.880] And at the moment, I think that's it.
[45:06.880 -> 45:08.840] I'm sorry, I can't.
[45:08.840 -> 45:09.840] No.
[45:09.840 -> 45:10.840] No?
[45:10.840 -> 45:12.880] But, oh, Lando, maybe I would say.
[45:12.880 -> 45:13.880] I don't know.
[45:13.880 -> 45:14.880] I think so.
[45:14.880 -> 45:19.520] Yes, but I don't think, I think he could fight for it, but I don't think he would win it
[45:19.520 -> 45:21.280] if he'd fight for it this year.
[45:21.280 -> 45:22.280] Russell?
[45:22.280 -> 45:23.280] Russell.
[45:23.280 -> 45:25.840] He stayed so consistent with Mercedes through the whole season.
[45:27.360 -> 45:34.400] True. So yeah Russell as well. So yeah it's hard to say it because they don't have the same
[45:34.400 -> 45:40.400] cars as Charles or Max. So you can't really judge in my opinion. And it's also always a story of
[45:40.400 -> 45:53.760] could have been's right. You can I mean you can drink up with like a hundred possibly more than like still yeah. So on to some race stats and facts here Aston Martin
[45:53.760 -> 45:59.680] head of race strategy Bernie Collins made her last appearance with the Hungarian Grand Prix
[45:59.680 -> 46:06.000] she moves out of the pits and there was a lovely message from Seb. Oh yeah. He spent the time.
[46:06.000 -> 46:13.920] Check it out if you haven't. Just a wholesome moment there. Mercedes has led more laps at
[46:13.920 -> 46:21.200] Hungary than their entire 2022 calendar combined so that's an interesting one. Vettel and Gasly
[46:21.200 -> 46:25.560] picked up eight places yesterday which is just super brilliant drive.
[46:25.560 -> 46:28.840] Max obviously picking up nine going from P10 to P1.
[46:28.840 -> 46:34.080] You've heard this, Russell overtakes Science in World Driver Championship,
[46:34.080 -> 46:37.720] leading by two points, 158 versus 156.
[46:37.720 -> 46:40.800] So Mercedes is breathing down Ferrari's neck.
[46:40.800 -> 46:49.360] Two facts about the track itself. Bernie is the man to say kudos to
[46:49.360 -> 46:59.240] bring Hungary in 1986 to take the sport beyond the Iron Curtain. It's a huge historical achievement
[46:59.240 -> 47:08.780] for folks who don't know what the Iron Curtain is. go ahead and and read what it is because it's an important part of our world history just some some brilliant thought
[47:08.780 -> 47:15.300] behind the legend Bernie Eccleston. The race here was not held in 1986 however
[47:15.300 -> 47:22.320] it was held all the way back even before F1 was a thing in 1939 and Mercedes
[47:22.320 -> 47:27.100] Alfa powered Ferrari and then Auto Union took part in that. So
[47:27.100 -> 47:31.740] there's some good history with this track and some amazing stats as well. So
[47:31.740 -> 47:36.260] with that, that's the Hungarian Grand Prix for you. What else Sarang and Roberto?
[47:36.260 -> 47:42.260] Talking about historic tracks, you know they're kind of in danger, you see this
[47:42.260 -> 47:47.120] year and next year. We had talks about Monaco and Spa
[47:47.120 -> 47:53.840] leaving the calendar. And as someone who's watched the sport for so many years, I don't want to see
[47:53.840 -> 48:01.680] them leave. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, but I'd rather have Spa in Monaco than Miami and Vegas or
[48:01.680 -> 48:05.960] something. They're historic tracks. I'm sorry, but you cannot take them away.
[48:05.960 -> 48:11.780] And even on that a bit off the kid off topic, but still, I think we should just
[48:11.780 -> 48:16.940] cap the races at 19 races because it's getting way too hard on the teams.
[48:16.940 -> 48:17.400] I'm sorry.
[48:17.740 -> 48:19.480] They've complained for so many years.
[48:20.100 -> 48:26.720] And once again, they're just bringing so many race, uh, new races from nowhere to streak
[48:26.720 -> 48:33.840] street tracks in Jeddah. And I don't know. And honestly, this is just the proof that once again,
[48:33.840 -> 48:39.360] cash is king in Formula One. Yes. The only thing they care about, the only thing they care about
[48:39.360 -> 48:47.600] is money. And even teams are saying that, I'm sorry, but I don't want to work in F1 anymore because of that and they're not changing it.
[48:47.600 -> 48:49.960] I just, I don't know.
[48:49.960 -> 48:52.280] Those three words, my friend, those three words.
[48:52.280 -> 48:54.160] Cash is king.
[48:54.160 -> 48:55.840] Yeah, man, I totally agree.
[48:55.840 -> 48:59.840] I mean, Spa leaving the sport would be a tragedy.
[48:59.840 -> 49:10.360] Like I personally, that's my favorite track personally. And I can't imagine F1 without Spa because it's such a glorious track out in the mountains.
[49:10.360 -> 49:10.720] Yeah.
[49:10.840 -> 49:12.880] You know, it's technically difficult.
[49:12.880 -> 49:14.360] It's amazing to watch.
[49:14.360 -> 49:20.120] It's exactly, it's like, yeah, you know, chef's kiss.
[49:20.120 -> 49:20.720] Exactly.
[49:20.720 -> 49:21.320] Chef's kiss.
[49:21.320 -> 49:21.880] Literally.
[49:21.880 -> 49:22.600] Chef's kiss.
[49:22.680 -> 49:27.040] And it's sad that like street circuits, okay, I get it. Like some
[49:27.040 -> 49:31.600] street circuits are good to have as even as a mix in terms of, you know, different driving
[49:31.600 -> 49:37.840] styles and everything. So there's some, except Jeddah, which is like, please remove that one.
[49:37.840 -> 49:42.720] And please just remove that one. It's just outright dangerous. Anyways. I understand like
[49:42.720 -> 49:46.480] having some street tracks, but that shouldn't become the
[49:46.480 -> 49:51.120] standard. I would say like you should still have purpose-built race tracks because they are safer.
[49:51.120 -> 49:59.680] They make good racing as well. And yeah, I like money shouldn't be the driving factor always at
[49:59.680 -> 50:08.000] least. I agree. Well, with that again,, Roberto, at the R8 RBE Racing.
[50:08.000 -> 50:11.000] This was just a super fun episode.
[50:11.000 -> 50:19.000] We are your original two hosts, as we like to call it, signing off to Roberto.
[50:19.000 -> 50:21.000] Yeah, well, thank you guys.
[50:21.000 -> 50:24.000] Thank you guys for inviting me on this podcast.
[50:24.000 -> 50:31.120] As we said at the start, I mean, we've tried to do this for a long time and now we've done it.
[50:31.120 -> 50:33.600] And I think our episode was very funny.
[50:34.640 -> 50:38.400] We've touched so many topics and I think I really enjoyed it.
[50:38.400 -> 50:41.440] So let's try to make some in the future as well.
[50:41.440 -> 50:42.400] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[50:42.400 -> 50:43.200] Certainly.
[50:43.200 -> 50:43.920] That's about it.
[50:43.920 -> 50:44.640] So yeah, of course.
[50:45.040 -> 50:45.800] Go check him out at the Racerbe Certainly. That's about it. So yeah. Of course.
[50:48.480 -> 50:49.280] Go check him out at the R8 RBE Racing. Go check him out.
[50:49.280 -> 50:49.920] Thank you.
[50:49.920 -> 50:50.480] Thank you.
[50:50.480 -> 50:51.120] Bye-bye.