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We return to the land of orange army for the 2022 Dutch GP. Yet another win for Max Verstappen, and yet another clown show by the prancing horse. The Mercedes camp is back and giving a tough time to the Red Bulls.
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Music:
Intro: Howling (Sting) - Gunnar Olsen
Outro: Your Intro by Audionautix
**Race Recap:**
* **Mercedes' Resurgence:**
* Mercedes showed signs of resurgence at Zandvoort, with George Russell and Lewis Hamilton starting 1-2.
* Russell made a strategic call to pit for tires, which put Max Verstappen in between him and Hamilton.
* Hamilton questioned the strategy, but Mercedes defended their decision, stating that they wanted to avoid giving Verstappen track position.
* Ultimately, Mercedes' strategy didn't pay off, as Verstappen won the race and Hamilton finished fourth.
* **Ferrari's Continued Struggles:**
* Ferrari's struggles continued at Zandvoort, with Carlos Sainz and Charles Leclerc finishing outside the podium.
* Sainz had a poor start and collided with Hamilton, damaging his car.
* Leclerc made a strategic error by pitting for medium tires when the safety car came out, losing valuable time.
* Ferrari's pit crew also made several mistakes, including leaving a wheel gun on the track and not having the correct tires ready for Leclerc.
* **Max Verstappen's Dominant Performance:**
* Verstappen dominated the race from start to finish, leading every lap.
* He extended his championship lead over Leclerc to 109 points.
* Verstappen is now the youngest driver to reach 30 race wins in Formula One history.
* **Other Notable Moments:**
* Fernando Alonso scored points for the 10th consecutive race, finishing sixth.
* Yuki Tsunoda had a bizarre incident where he pitted twice for a suspected loose tire, only to discover that the tire was fine.
* Lance Stroll had a strong race, finishing in the points after starting from 10th.
**Overall:**
The Dutch Grand Prix was a mixed bag, with Mercedes showing signs of improvement, Ferrari continuing to struggle, and Verstappen extending his championship lead. The race also featured several notable moments, including Alonso's points streak, Tsunoda's tire inspection, and Stroll's strong performance. # 2022 Dutch Grand Prix: A Thrilling Race at Zandvoort
The 2022 Dutch Grand Prix at Zandvoort provided an exciting race filled with drama and action. Max Verstappen secured another victory, continuing his impressive season, while the Mercedes team showed signs of improvement, challenging the dominance of Red Bull.
## Key Points and Highlights:
- **Deja Vu 2021:** The race started with a familiar pattern, reminiscent of the 2021 Dutch GP. Verstappen took the lead early on, while Lewis Hamilton and George Russell struggled to keep up.
- **Bottas' Revenge on Mercedes:** Valtteri Bottas, now driving for Alfa Romeo, had a strong performance, finishing in sixth place. This result could be seen as a form of revenge against Mercedes, who had replaced him with Russell for the 2022 season.
- **Mercedes' Resurgence:** Mercedes showed signs of progress, with Hamilton finishing fourth and Russell finishing third. This improvement suggests that the team may be able to challenge Red Bull more consistently in the upcoming races.
- **Ferrari's Continued Struggles:** Ferrari's woes continued at Zandvoort, with Carlos Sainz and Charles Leclerc finishing eighth and sixth, respectively. Team principal Mattia Binotto faced criticism for his strategic decisions during the race.
- **Max Verstappen's Dominant Performance:** Verstappen delivered another dominant performance, leading the race from start to finish. His victory further solidified his position at the top of the drivers' championship standings.
- **Yuki Tsunoda's Pit Stop Curiosity:** During the race, Yuki Tsunoda made an unusual pit stop for a "rooster inspection." The reason behind this stop was not immediately clear, but it added an element of intrigue to the race.
- **Lance Stroll's Point-Scoring Finish:** Lance Stroll managed to score a point for Aston Martin, finishing in tenth place. This result was a positive outcome for the team, which has struggled for consistency this season.
- **Moving Chicanes:** The presence of pigeons on the track during the race led to the humorous observation that they were acting as "moving chicanes." This lighthearted moment provided a brief respite from the intense competition.
## Overall Takeaway:
The 2022 Dutch Grand Prix was a captivating race that showcased Verstappen's continued dominance, Mercedes' resurgence, and Ferrari's ongoing struggles. The race also provided moments of entertainment and humor, such as the smoke grenade incident and the pigeon sightings. Overall, it was a memorable race that kept fans engaged throughout.
[00:00.000 -> 00:02.480] Why did Yuki come in for a cock inspection?
[00:03.120 -> 00:06.960] I guess he was on hards at that point.
[00:18.400 -> 00:21.920] Hello, folks. Welcome back to F1 Fan Fiction,
[00:21.920 -> 00:26.400] a show about race weekend reviews and racing community interviews.
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[00:52.000 -> 00:56.000] This is Zandvoort. We are back
[00:56.000 -> 01:00.000] in the Orange Army crowd where flares were not allowed except
[01:00.000 -> 01:04.000] like the one or two that did slip past security.
[01:04.000 -> 01:07.880] And at the very last of course. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:07.920 -> 01:12.240] Then it was just MVWin. Smart audience. Yeah. But let's get into it.
[01:12.240 -> 01:16.480] Let's get into it. It's been an interesting weekend to say the least.
[01:16.520 -> 01:20.040] Isarang, you and I were sort of talking about this before we started recording.
[01:20.680 -> 01:24.520] It feels like 2021 was back yesterday. Exactly.
[01:27.440 -> 01:29.960] I really was having a deja vu. And like, see, there's so many things.
[01:29.960 -> 01:32.080] Paris was defending Hamilton, right?
[01:32.080 -> 01:36.360] We were like actively thinking about who's gonna win.
[01:36.360 -> 01:37.680] Is it Red Bull or Mercedes?
[01:37.680 -> 01:40.120] Is it going to be Max or Hamilton?
[01:40.120 -> 01:43.320] And yeah, then that's basically 2021.
[01:43.320 -> 01:46.080] And nobody cared about Ferrari so yeah
[01:46.080 -> 01:51.640] of course yeah but it's been interesting yesterday Jensen Button was in the
[01:51.640 -> 01:57.560] commentary box with our usual commentators and it takes me back to this
[01:57.560 -> 02:03.120] point where we're jumping up into the race where we had the safety car and
[02:03.120 -> 02:10.020] Russell made a call that he wants to come into the box and switch his tires up. At this point Hamilton's
[02:10.020 -> 02:16.240] leading the race Russell is P2 and Max is P3 and then Button sort of jumps in
[02:16.240 -> 02:22.100] and says why was Russell allowed to do this. It just put it just puts Max in
[02:22.100 -> 02:26.480] between Hamilton and Russell and they should not have done that.
[02:26.480 -> 02:33.320] Commentary box went all defensive on him saying, you know, yeah, they could have won the race when Sunoda went out.
[02:33.320 -> 02:36.080] They could have won the race. Like, basically listing 10 things out.
[02:36.080 -> 02:42.360] Cut to Hamilton comes on to the radio and says, we should not have done this.
[02:42.360 -> 02:45.000] In a bit of more asterisks marked there. But we should not have done this in a bit of more asterisks
[02:45.360 -> 02:48.440] part there, but we should not have done this.
[02:48.440 -> 02:50.960] And then buttons gloating there.
[02:50.960 -> 02:53.880] So that brings us to the start of this episode
[02:53.880 -> 02:56.640] with a topic that I don't know we've spoken about
[02:56.640 -> 02:58.600] all through the season, Mercedes.
[02:58.600 -> 03:01.280] Mercedes, Saring your thoughts on Mercedes yesterday.
[03:01.280 -> 03:03.640] Man, I mean, we said this a little,
[03:03.640 -> 03:05.040] I think a couple episodes
[03:05.040 -> 03:10.920] back as well and Mercedes are definitely back now and truly and I'm quite happy
[03:10.920 -> 03:15.200] about it because Ferrari has completely dropped the ball so I'm glad that we are
[03:15.200 -> 03:19.360] getting some competition against Red Bull and Mercedes is right there. A lot
[03:19.360 -> 03:24.600] of people did criticize them for the last pit stop but I'm not again I kind
[03:24.600 -> 03:26.960] of disagree with people for that.
[03:26.960 -> 03:32.080] They did what makes sense to not leave track position to me as well and yeah they're truly
[03:32.080 -> 03:38.880] back man and it's a great effort. I mean they did everything right like the strategy
[03:38.880 -> 03:43.680] with starting on mediums was on point, switching to the hards at the right time was on point.
[03:43.840 -> 03:44.520] Mediums was on point, switching to the hards at the right time was on point.
[03:48.680 -> 03:48.720] They would have won the race for sure. If not for like the, you know,
[03:52.400 -> 03:53.160] Bottas taking Bottas from me, just parking his car.
[03:56.080 -> 03:56.200] True, right? True, right. At which point I,
[03:59.880 -> 04:00.320] I sort of thought is Bottas a secret agent for Mark.
[04:01.960 -> 04:02.000] And then I was like, or is he,
[04:07.120 -> 04:12.960] he might actually be a secret agent to Max, bringing out that safety car. No, no, he is just a free agent, you know, just, you know, laying vengeance upon Mercedes, that's all.
[04:12.960 -> 04:15.440] Or goes to the highest bidder for sure.
[04:15.440 -> 04:16.800] Oh, yeah, that's that too.
[04:16.800 -> 04:25.760] But the question, actually, you know what, let's jump up the race. I mean, all the way to the start. I mean, for the first time in 2022,
[04:26.480 -> 04:32.240] Merckx were running 1-2, which was brilliant. Had they won, I remember like the commentators
[04:32.240 -> 04:38.320] saying like this is the first time Merckx would have been 1-2 at Zandvoort since the 50s or
[04:38.320 -> 04:45.000] something like when Fangio was racing, basically. So, that would have been an amazing feat. They had everything going on for themselves.
[04:45.000 -> 04:55.000] So yeah, they were back at least from what Toto was saying that, you know, they're expecting good pace after the summer break
[04:55.000 -> 05:10.800] on to 1.8 second gap with RBR on to now basically they could have won the race yesterday. Yep, exactly man. It's an awesome journey and even like you know I love how well the team is
[05:10.800 -> 05:16.880] gelled up. Like I had first imagined very honestly that when Russell comes in like there would be
[05:16.880 -> 05:22.320] some friction within the team because you know he being like the young gun and you know trying to
[05:22.320 -> 05:26.000] kind of become the first driver eventually, of course, it would
[05:26.000 -> 05:32.000] kind of bring in some tension, but it seems like their roles are very well set within the team.
[05:32.000 -> 05:38.000] They kind of know what needs to be done and how to get the team to the place where they want to
[05:38.000 -> 05:46.800] reach. And that's a well-oiled machine. I mean, what else to say? Like Mercedes is good. We have seen them dominate the sport for so long, of course.
[05:47.680 -> 05:49.680] And that's why no just coincidence.
[05:49.680 -> 05:52.520] It's of course that they are a very well-oiled team.
[05:52.760 -> 05:56.800] Yeah. Yeah. At one point, I mean, they were like,
[05:57.640 -> 06:01.840] we're having a bad year, but we'll probably have the rest of the year bad as well.
[06:01.840 -> 06:06.400] But we'll beat RBR at home. So in your face sort of situation.
[06:07.440 -> 06:10.840] Oh yeah. I don't consider that. That's right. That's actually, Oh yes.
[06:11.440 -> 06:14.080] In your face. I mean, not RBR home, but like max home.
[06:17.520 -> 06:21.600] Got to lap 49. Hamilton again is like, let's go guys.
[06:21.600 -> 06:24.200] He has that brilliant two point something second best stop.
[06:25.040 -> 06:29.720] That double stack that they did there. And then cut to lap 63.
[06:29.720 -> 06:32.400] This was the biggest fuck up ever. So I'm like,
[06:34.000 -> 06:36.720] I'm like, God make up your mind.
[06:39.280 -> 06:42.960] Oh yes. That was actually, man, that was such an irony.
[06:42.960 -> 06:46.920] Like everything was going well and then suddenly it just went downhill for them.
[06:46.920 -> 06:48.600] But it's not bad, very honestly.
[06:48.600 -> 06:51.400] Like, they still got 2 and 4, which is not too bad.
[06:51.400 -> 06:58.840] I mean, even if they had pitted both of them, I'm not sure.
[06:58.840 -> 07:03.480] Considering Max's pace as well, I'm not sure whether Hamilton would have...
[07:03.480 -> 07:08.880] Don't try to be this diplomatic. Let's just say the unpopular opinion here, Max would
[07:08.880 -> 07:14.240] have won the race irrespective. That safety car ensured Max was going to win. So let's
[07:14.240 -> 07:16.240] get that out there.
[07:16.240 -> 07:27.400] Exactly. So yeah, anybody who's been criticizing Mercedes, I mean, I don't think they did anything wrong. I think that was the right strategy. And yeah, oh yes, okay.
[07:27.400 -> 07:30.160] I have to mention this.
[07:30.160 -> 07:34.000] As soon as the message came in about,
[07:34.000 -> 07:36.920] you know, laptops are allowed to overtake,
[07:36.920 -> 07:40.400] that like suddenly it reminded me of Hamilton
[07:40.400 -> 07:44.680] in 2021 Abu Dhabi and him having PTSD.
[07:44.680 -> 07:46.160] I'm pretty sure he flinched there for a
[07:46.160 -> 07:52.040] second right. I saw this meme where as soon as Max overtakes on the
[07:52.040 -> 07:58.600] straight, Toto calls up race director saying no Mikey no no you cannot let
[07:58.600 -> 08:03.360] this happen and then Mikey says what happened now and that cut that shot
[08:03.360 -> 08:10.760] is from like him sitting at his home and then Toto cuts to Toto saying oh sorry force of habit
[08:12.160 -> 08:18.160] yeah I guess like all of them had some PTSD there. Vidya man I feel like
[08:18.160 -> 08:22.680] interestingly they did allow Russell to pitch my take on I mean and the question
[08:22.680 -> 08:29.600] that that I mentioned before we got onto this topic, the question really is, should Merck have done what they did?
[08:29.840 -> 08:35.120] Should they have allowed Russell to call the shot and, you know, come in for the Pitts
[08:35.120 -> 08:38.440] and change those tires? Because the other question is like, they could have probably
[08:38.440 -> 08:39.960] just kept them on the same tires.
[08:40.520 -> 08:48.320] But should they have done that? And then the bigger question there is, was this a race about Hamilton's win or Mercedes win?
[08:49.040 -> 08:53.400] So folks, before we share our opinions on this and I throw it off to Sarang,
[08:53.800 -> 08:57.640] you know, make sure you send us your opinions about what you think.
[08:58.080 -> 08:59.240] But yeah, off to you Sarang.
[08:59.920 -> 09:19.520] I think like, I don't know. it's an interesting question because it's like on one side, I kind of understand their psyche of letting him pit because A, you know, by giving orders of, you know, don't come in or whatever, I think it's also kind of, you know,
[09:25.480 -> 09:27.520] Tenses the relationship a bit, which they probably want to avoid, especially when they are on their back foot as well.
[09:27.520 -> 09:30.200] And they are really not contending for the championship anyways.
[09:30.200 -> 09:34.640] So you know, it's not like they, they're losing their first position in the championship or
[09:34.640 -> 09:35.640] something.
[09:35.640 -> 09:40.280] So at this point, I think it was the right call from Mercedes to, you know, allow their
[09:40.280 -> 09:43.520] drivers to experiment because at the same time, it's also like, you know, kind of a
[09:43.520 -> 09:50.240] chance for Russell to grow as well, because having this presence of mind of deciding to pit on your own
[09:50.800 -> 09:55.840] is something that's important and especially if they are grooming him for the driver number one
[09:55.840 -> 10:02.160] seat I think that's a good quality to have so for me it makes sense that they allowed him to pit.
[10:02.160 -> 10:08.240] What do you think? Fair enough and I think for me, the race was about Mercedes and not Hamilton. I mean,
[10:08.720 -> 10:09.720] yes,
[10:09.720 -> 10:13.240] we want Hamilton to win because it's become,
[10:13.280 -> 10:17.400] Mercedes has become synonymous with Hamilton with the past seven years.
[10:17.640 -> 10:18.480] For sure.
[10:18.800 -> 10:19.640] Yeah. Yeah.
[10:19.640 -> 10:24.640] But I think they're playing a bigger game where it is about Mercedes.
[10:24.880 -> 10:26.080] And I'm fine. I am fine.
[10:26.080 -> 10:28.720] In hindsight, again, everything looks, you know, very different.
[10:28.720 -> 10:33.680] I agree with Jenson Button saying like they surely lost positions.
[10:33.680 -> 10:37.600] Verstappen would have had to fight two Mercedes to get to that win.
[10:37.600 -> 10:46.440] But I think like it's still okay for them to do that and not create that barrier between the driver and the team so early on.
[10:46.440 -> 10:52.800] And it's first year, right, halfway through the season. So, yeah, I think it's fine. I think it's fine. I think it's fine.
[10:53.120 -> 11:02.120] Yeah, definitely. Overall, Mercedes did pretty well. Unfortunately, they didn't get the win. That's fine. But I think this is just a step in the right direction for them.
[11:02.040 -> 11:02.280] just a step in the right direction for them.
[11:03.840 -> 11:04.160] They have been struggling for a long time.
[11:09.680 -> 11:11.880] At least, you know, this is, yeah, it seems like they are able to at least challenge for the win. Right. So that's, that's great.
[11:12.080 -> 11:13.280] Yeah. Yeah.
[11:13.400 -> 11:23.200] There's been these set of memes where they're saying a new clown has entered the pit garage and they've sort of put that clown memes on to Mercedes at this point.
[11:23.440 -> 11:27.440] And, you know, when we talk about clowns, there's only one original clown.
[11:28.360 -> 11:31.760] No, no other team can take that position.
[11:32.280 -> 11:35.680] No other team can fill that gap. There's only one clown.
[11:35.680 -> 11:39.240] There's only one carnival. There's only one circus on the grid.
[11:39.560 -> 11:42.600] And I'm not even going to take their name at this point because you know what I'm talking about.
[11:43.160 -> 11:44.080] Everybody knows it.
[11:44.080 -> 11:44.920] Yeah. So, you know.
[11:43.000 -> 11:45.000] I'm not even going to take their name at this point because you know who I'm talking about. Everybody knows it.
[11:45.000 -> 11:50.000] What was happening there when like 20 laps into the race and the circus had begun?
[11:50.000 -> 12:00.000] Oh man, I don't know. So just last episode we talked about, you know, we were praising them, like, you know, not exactly praising, but kind of defending them.
[12:00.000 -> 12:06.080] You know, it was the right call that they made. And this time I'm not going to defend anything,
[12:06.080 -> 12:11.760] you know, fuck Ferrari, because dude, like what the hell were they doing? You know,
[12:11.760 -> 12:16.000] I was just trying to think of the mistakes that they made yesterday. Let's start and count. Okay,
[12:16.000 -> 12:20.800] let's try it. Let's try it out. Okay. First, we saw them leaving the wheel gun on the track.
[12:21.840 -> 12:27.840] Second was, you know, not being ready with the tires. When signs came in,
[12:27.840 -> 12:31.480] his pit stop was completely ruined. Then of course, you know, everybody was just running
[12:31.480 -> 12:37.120] around as well. It seemed, of course, seemed like a circus because I think at the point
[12:37.120 -> 12:47.000] where they didn't actually get his tires out, there's a video on Reddit which I saw where the front, sorry, the rear left guy, right?
[12:47.000 -> 12:50.200] Rear left tire guy was on the front side.
[12:50.200 -> 12:51.200] I don't know why.
[12:51.200 -> 12:55.280] And he was kind of stuck there because he kind of got surrounded by the other mechanics
[12:55.280 -> 12:58.040] and he was trying to find a way to get back.
[12:58.040 -> 13:02.120] And that is basically why they weren't ready with his tire.
[13:02.120 -> 13:08.500] Then the third thing was, you know, they got out the medium tires for Charles when Sunoda was having issues.
[13:09.160 -> 13:12.700] And at that point I think a safety car was about to come out,
[13:13.180 -> 13:16.780] but they ran in because they realized it's mediums and that's not the right
[13:16.780 -> 13:20.460] tire. And they came back with hards and Charles put it after that.
[13:21.380 -> 13:24.580] So that was a close call. I would say it probably wasn't a mistake,
[13:24.580 -> 13:28.800] but I would say it was a potential mistake.
[13:29.160 -> 13:34.520] That's interesting right because that reminds me of the fact that you
[13:34.520 -> 13:38.880] know how role-playing games have a glitch where the character is stuck
[13:38.880 -> 13:46.240] somewhere and basically the physics is enc coded incorrectly. The pit crew is behaving that way.
[13:46.240 -> 13:51.800] Like the real world physics have been defied with Ferrari to be honest.
[13:51.800 -> 13:56.240] But I'm gonna try and defend them for once.
[13:56.240 -> 13:57.280] Only once.
[13:57.280 -> 14:00.520] For their debauchery which they should have fixed.
[14:00.520 -> 14:06.120] But just to give some context here to folks on on what the issue is and
[14:06.120 -> 14:12.080] like what could have happened and whatnot Ted or Martin whoever it is I
[14:12.080 -> 14:15.880] can't figure out their name basically in the commentary box said that usually
[14:15.880 -> 14:21.400] what happens is engineers come to know first or they decide that the driver is
[14:21.400 -> 14:27.280] gonna come in and they tell the mechanics that, Hey, get the tires ready. Cause the driver's coming in.
[14:28.080 -> 14:29.760] And then once that happens,
[14:29.760 -> 14:34.800] that sort of three way tag team works together to make the pit stop
[14:34.800 -> 14:36.720] work. In this case,
[14:36.720 -> 14:40.920] apparently they made a call or they found out or science made a call or whatever
[14:40.920 -> 14:42.400] that was. I think like science made that call,
[14:42.400 -> 14:49.600] but like one made a call on the last turn and the mechanics found out when the car was in the lane
[14:50.640 -> 14:57.920] and everyone was scrambling. At this point the mechanic should have just told the engineers like
[14:57.920 -> 15:03.120] we aren't ready with the tires how can you make a call like this. So the engineers and the mechanics
[15:03.120 -> 15:06.160] really need to have communicated well better here.
[15:06.160 -> 15:12.080] I mean, science has been making his own calls, whatever. I'm over it. I don't want to discuss it.
[15:13.360 -> 15:20.080] But at least for once, for once, Matteo said the pit stop was a mess. So I'll live with it.
[15:20.080 -> 15:26.560] Oh yeah. Finally he accepted that they made a mistake. That was, I think it's a step in the right direction at least.
[15:26.800 -> 15:27.300] I live with that.
[15:27.300 -> 15:35.120] Because till now he was like just, you know, not even accepting that there was anything wrong with them, which is just absurd, very honestly.
[15:36.320 -> 15:42.680] Oh, by the way, one more mistake that I remember. Carlos hit this guy, right? Hamilton. So that was one more.
[15:42.680 -> 15:44.520] So he did have a damage from that.
[15:45.320 -> 15:49.440] Hamilton so that was one more. So he did have a damage from that? Yeah he actually also had a damage from that and I think I he tweeted about it or on insta I
[15:49.440 -> 15:52.480] don't know what but somewhere he basically said that he was carrying some
[15:52.480 -> 15:58.780] damage because of that and that's why his performance was bad I don't know if
[15:58.780 -> 16:08.600] that's just a reason that he is giving or not. But yeah, whatever. It's just weird man. I don't understand.
[16:08.600 -> 16:15.100] Yesterday it was Ferrari. I was really rooting for them. I was hoping that they would do something.
[16:15.100 -> 16:22.300] Because Leclerc was doing good right up till lap, I think, what 10-15 something like that.
[16:22.300 -> 16:27.500] And as soon as pit stops started, everything just went downhill after that.
[16:27.500 -> 16:32.500] Ferrari is the only team that sort of starts off as P1, P2, P3 or something like that.
[16:32.500 -> 16:36.500] And then decides we're going to finish P4, P5, P6 or something like that.
[16:36.500 -> 16:37.500] Oh, yes.
[16:37.500 -> 16:38.500] Even that.
[16:38.500 -> 16:40.500] Dude, what the hell is wrong with Ferrari?
[16:40.500 -> 16:46.000] Why do they decide in the middle of the race that we cannot win and let's aim for P4.
[16:47.120 -> 16:53.520] Every other team starts off as P8 or whatever and decides to be like we'll be P1. These guys are the
[16:53.520 -> 16:59.840] only ones that want to go behind. But man to be honest I love Ferrari. I love Ferrari because I
[16:59.840 -> 17:05.080] think that's the most creative team ever. Like how do you come up...
[17:05.080 -> 17:06.680] Like how many races are we down?
[17:06.680 -> 17:09.040] I think like 15 or 16 or 14 races down.
[17:09.040 -> 17:09.960] Yeah, something like that.
[17:09.960 -> 17:10.960] 17 I think.
[17:10.960 -> 17:15.600] How do you come up with N creative ways to die?
[17:15.600 -> 17:18.240] You know there is this game, right?
[17:18.240 -> 17:19.680] Like fun ways to die.
[17:19.680 -> 17:21.520] These guys should be on there.
[17:21.520 -> 17:23.920] Like these guys should be on the creative team for that.
[17:23.920 -> 17:25.280] Like brilliant.
[17:25.280 -> 17:27.280] Just super brilliant.
[17:27.280 -> 17:31.600] I agree. They should be given an award for that. For sure.
[17:31.600 -> 17:35.760] They should start writing some fan fiction I guess.
[17:35.760 -> 17:40.800] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it's clowning around so why not just join us at this point.
[17:40.800 -> 17:42.800] Yes. Exactly.
[17:42.800 -> 17:45.840] But science was all over the place man, yesterday even with that
[17:45.840 -> 17:51.600] unsafe release and then he comes onto the radio and says like hey yeah it wasn't an unsafe release
[17:51.600 -> 17:56.000] he's trying to. Oh yeah right unsafe release as well oh I forgot about that of course. Why was
[17:56.000 -> 18:07.760] he trying to justify that like it's not an unsafe release. I'm like dude shut up. He almost killed Alonzo's race back there. Or was it Ocon? I guess it was Alonzo.
[18:07.760 -> 18:11.840] Yeah, someone. Some Alpine. I think it was Ocon.
[18:11.840 -> 18:19.000] But then does a ballsy move on Ocon when Bottas has parked his car at the end of that straight.
[18:19.000 -> 18:26.240] That was a nice move. It was a nice move but honestly I'm not sure if, I don't know, like
[18:26.800 -> 18:32.320] it probably was a bit unsafe considering that Botas's car was in the way and considering that
[18:32.320 -> 18:38.560] yellow flags were being waved. I'm actually not sure, I didn't get a chance to go back and exactly
[18:38.560 -> 18:49.080] look whether the yellow flag was already shown to him when he got onto the straight. But at least in the past from like what we have seen,
[18:49.560 -> 18:54.560] generally overtaking and making moves when the yellow flag is out is generally
[18:54.920 -> 18:58.120] punished. And I was a little unsure as to what's going on.
[18:58.120 -> 19:00.560] Why was nobody talking about it?
[19:00.880 -> 19:04.880] Like the commentators did talk about it a bit because a similar thing happened
[19:04.880 -> 19:10.240] the next lap when Okon was trying to make a move on Alonso and I don't know who it was
[19:10.240 -> 19:15.940] I think Sunanda or somebody or Casley I think it was and he basically backed off. He had
[19:15.940 -> 19:21.280] to like really break hard and lock up to not overtake because he was like in the yellow
[19:21.280 -> 19:25.040] flags. So I mean even if I agree that the move was great,
[19:29.120 -> 19:29.200] but I'm not sure if it's, it was a really safe thing to do, very honestly.
[19:30.920 -> 19:35.400] Yeah. But from his point of view, I guess like the yellow flags just come in before they all sort of like get into
[19:35.400 -> 19:39.800] those deltas, might as well like not get stuck behind a slower car and whatnot.
[19:40.600 -> 19:43.360] Yeah. I'm not reading too much into it personally.
[19:43.360 -> 19:47.000] I think it was just sort of like he probably had already committed to it.
[19:47.000 -> 19:52.000] I was in that DRS before like the yellows came on and did what he wanted.
[19:52.000 -> 19:53.000] Yeah.
[19:53.000 -> 19:55.000] Science has been doing what he wants to sort of thing.
[19:55.000 -> 19:56.000] I think he's...
[19:56.000 -> 19:57.000] Anyways, that's true.
[19:57.000 -> 19:58.000] Yeah.
[19:58.000 -> 19:59.000] He's realizing he can't rely on the team.
[19:59.000 -> 20:00.000] Okay.
[20:00.000 -> 20:08.000] Since you're talking about that, I think, you I think one small topic I wanted to bring about the same thing was that,
[20:08.000 -> 20:13.760] I think we had also said this earlier that Charles somewhere lacks in that sense where,
[20:13.760 -> 20:18.720] while I completely agree, like Roberto had kind of defended Charles saying that
[20:19.280 -> 20:26.060] he shouldn't have to, but you know what kind of I have to say about that is it's
[20:26.060 -> 20:31.100] real life you know and things don't exactly go as you want to or ideally
[20:31.100 -> 20:36.620] that they should and considering that if you really want to win championship you
[20:36.620 -> 20:40.860] have to take matters in your own hand when you're not getting support from
[20:40.860 -> 20:45.320] where you should. To support your statement there, Russell is P2 because he
[20:45.320 -> 20:49.560] made the call for himself. Exactly, yeah, exactly. That's exactly true.
[20:49.560 -> 20:55.160] And I feel like, while I completely agree that Ferrari should take the burden of
[20:55.160 -> 20:59.280] building our strategies and everything and Charles definitely shouldn't have to
[20:59.280 -> 21:04.840] do it, but if that is the case and he wants to win, he must. That's all I
[21:04.840 -> 21:05.680] can say about it.
[21:05.760 -> 21:12.320] I mean, I'm taking the easier route here because sitting behind a mic and just sort of like as an after effect,
[21:12.320 -> 21:15.040] like woulda coulda shoulda sort of situation here, right?
[21:15.360 -> 21:21.520] I think Ferrari needs to sort of reshuffle their strategists and like make things better at their end.
[21:22.240 -> 21:24.960] But I think like every weekend without
[21:24.720 -> 21:25.760] things better at their end. But I think like every weekend without
[21:29.840 -> 21:30.280] future information at hand, they feel like they are doing the best thing at their disposal.
[21:34.640 -> 21:35.160] From a viewer's point of view and from like someone sitting behind a mic and just talking
[21:41.560 -> 21:43.160] they are clearly not. But hey, Mathew feels they are. So I'm not gonna fight. Exactly.
[21:47.080 -> 21:47.760] Oh man, I'll write enough of the clown show.
[21:53.280 -> 22:00.600] Let's talk about some facts and stats from the weekend here. An interesting thing I learned was I think like when Sunoda eventually finally parked his car
[22:00.600 -> 22:07.360] second time when he parked his car. the commentators came on and said, this track
[22:07.360 -> 22:12.220] basically has sand as runoff at quite a lot of places.
[22:12.220 -> 22:16.440] And what that ends up doing is it's difficult for marshals to even push the car.
[22:16.440 -> 22:21.920] So marshals cannot push the car out and it takes longer than usual to get the car off
[22:21.920 -> 22:25.080] the track than some of the other tracks, which is an
[22:25.080 -> 22:29.780] interesting thing to learn because otherwise probably it's the gravel and
[22:29.780 -> 22:34.720] you can just roll the car off sort of thing. Alonzo, Alonzo has scored a point
[22:34.720 -> 22:40.040] for 10 consecutive race and to be honest I'm growing a fan of that Alpine. I mean
[22:40.040 -> 22:45.400] every weekend I get into there trying to look for how the Alpines are going to behave and react.
[22:45.400 -> 22:48.900] Not much from Ocon but like definitely from Alonzo.
[22:48.900 -> 22:52.780] Max has joined the league of 30 race wins.
[22:52.780 -> 22:55.000] Some brilliant performance from Max there.
[22:55.000 -> 22:56.200] And the youngest as well.
[22:56.200 -> 22:59.420] And the youngest as well. Wow, that's awesome.
[22:59.420 -> 23:06.920] Speaking of maximum positions gained yesterday, Fernando Alonso tops that with seven positions gained.
[23:06.920 -> 23:11.680] I'm not even going to count Yuki for losing 11 places because he DNF'd.
[23:11.680 -> 23:19.560] But the next in contention are at minus five with Mik Schumacher as a regular racer
[23:19.560 -> 23:28.800] and Carlos Sainz as someone who was hyper early up on cocaine on the race yesterday just trying to gain places.
[23:30.600 -> 23:39.000] Red Bull makes the fastest pit stop 2.09. That is some just brilliant pit stopping work from there and...
[23:39.200 -> 23:44.200] Yet again. Yet again. Yet again. With all guns within their realm and...
[23:44.000 -> 23:50.400] Yet again. With all guns within their realm. And so yeah, some interesting fun stuff.
[23:50.400 -> 23:55.760] You heard one that Fangio was the last time when Mercs were 1-2 at Xandu.
[23:55.760 -> 23:58.240] That could have repeated again, but unfortunately it didn't.
[23:58.800 -> 24:03.040] So yeah, I had some facts and stats for you for this weekend.
[24:03.040 -> 24:07.360] Okay, Akash, I have to ask this question. Why did Yuki come in for a cock inspection?
[24:08.000 -> 24:11.840] I guess, I guess he was on hards at that point.
[24:15.680 -> 24:20.160] Oh God. He's become, that meme is going to live for a long time.
[24:22.400 -> 24:27.000] Oh man, it was plastered everywhere. I just couldn't escape it. So I had to bring it up.
[24:27.000 -> 24:37.000] Obviously, obviously. I don't know what was happening. I felt like he just parked his car, parked his car and complained the tyre was loose.
[24:37.000 -> 24:45.280] Everyone scrambled in the Alphatauri garage saying, what the hell is happening? They come back saying like, Oh no, the tires are fine.
[24:45.560 -> 24:49.320] So this guy's like, Oh, okay. Let's just slowly roll into the pits again.
[24:50.080 -> 24:53.320] And then they get all frisky with all this private parts and stuff.
[24:59.520 -> 25:04.520] I feel, I feel it was Helmut Marco calling UK on the radio.
[25:04.720 -> 25:05.000] Yes.
[25:05.000 -> 25:06.200] You got to park now.
[25:06.200 -> 25:07.600] We need a BSC.
[25:07.600 -> 25:08.000] Yeah.
[25:08.000 -> 25:09.600] Hamilton is way far ahead.
[25:09.600 -> 25:10.400] We need some help.
[25:10.400 -> 25:10.800] Yeah.
[25:10.800 -> 25:12.200] Yuki, pit now.
[25:12.200 -> 25:13.600] Sorry, stop now rather.
[25:13.600 -> 25:14.600] Yeah, stop now.
[25:14.600 -> 25:19.000] I have never seen something like this to be honest.
[25:19.000 -> 25:20.200] Like never, never.
[25:20.200 -> 25:22.400] Yeah, it was quite odd, honestly.
[25:22.400 -> 25:29.760] Like if his tires were loose, I think it would have been a lot more evident. It's weird that he just stopped. I mean, kind of good. Probably he thought
[25:29.760 -> 25:34.280] it was unsafe, that's why he stopped. Maybe it's also some inexperience as well, showing
[25:34.280 -> 25:39.760] off here because he probably doesn't have as much experience with that. And that's why
[25:39.760 -> 25:48.000] he wasn't sure. But either way, it was Aliphatauri. They are all over the place, man. I wasn't sure. But either ways, it was... Adipatavri are all over the place, man. I don't understand what's going on with their team in general.
[25:48.000 -> 25:53.520] Like, this year, they have just... Their performance has just fallen off. They're just nowhere, very honestly.
[25:53.520 -> 26:00.000] Week in, week out, there's, you know, not many points gained, not much action from them.
[26:00.000 -> 26:06.480] I think Gasly did decent last place. But other than that, I think it's been pretty lackluster overall.
[26:06.480 -> 26:12.320] True. Just a note on all the touching that was happening with Sunoda.
[26:12.320 -> 26:19.280] There's a speculation or someone's been saying like probably his seatbelt was loosened and he thought he's going to just get off the car.
[26:19.280 -> 26:25.800] And that's the feeling that he was probably resonating with in terms of the tyre being loose.
[26:26.300 -> 26:32.600] Yeah. I mean, Alpha Tauri is one of those teams that is with Haas in my mind at this point,
[26:32.600 -> 26:34.600] because they are just sort of fair racing.
[26:35.600 -> 26:41.480] K-Mag was trying to sort of play his part yesterday, but he was also sort of like all over the place.
[26:41.480 -> 26:44.160] There was quite a lot of understeer that we saw from him.
[26:44.520 -> 26:46.960] Ran into the gravel during race start.
[26:47.300 -> 26:49.340] And then again, I think he was battling someone
[26:49.340 -> 26:52.800] where he didn't have the better out of the two fights.
[26:53.600 -> 26:56.500] Although the fight that I did like to see was
[26:56.840 -> 27:00.700] Haas versus Aston Martin of Mick versus Wettel.
[27:00.940 -> 27:09.560] There was this one lap where they went neck to neck down turn 10, 11, 12, and eventually
[27:09.560 -> 27:14.000] turn 13 is when Mick finally overtook.
[27:14.000 -> 27:18.640] And it was super clean racing from both Seb and Mick.
[27:18.640 -> 27:22.120] And that was just super lovely to watch.
[27:22.120 -> 27:23.760] Seb was a bit naughty yesterday, right?
[27:23.760 -> 27:24.760] Like he wasn't really...
[27:24.760 -> 27:25.760] I think he was drunk.
[27:25.760 -> 27:34.320] I think Xander would like people outside probably gave him a few beers before he came in.
[27:34.320 -> 27:40.120] He was like, you know, you go bowling as a kid and you have those railings and you try
[27:40.120 -> 27:44.240] to purposely throw on a side so that it bounces off.
[27:44.240 -> 27:46.520] He was that. Seb was that ball yesterday.
[27:47.200 -> 27:50.640] Yes. Totally. Totally. Who was it?
[27:50.640 -> 27:53.960] I think it was Charles and Hamilton, right? Who were fighting at that point.
[27:53.960 -> 27:55.120] A couple, yeah.
[27:55.600 -> 27:57.280] Yeah. When he came in between.
[27:59.280 -> 28:03.400] Yeah. I don't know. Like yesterday wasn't his day and Stroll was doing very good.
[28:03.400 -> 28:04.720] So I don't know what's wrong.
[28:05.360 -> 28:09.360] Stroll eventually ended up on the, sorry, but like on the place where he started.
[28:09.360 -> 28:12.080] But I agree. He was having a brilliant day yesterday.
[28:12.440 -> 28:14.440] Yeah. And that's, you know,
[28:14.480 -> 28:17.280] I think we haven't talked about Stroll a lot this year overall,
[28:17.280 -> 28:20.560] I think because he was nowhere and out of nowhere,
[28:21.200 -> 28:22.920] he suddenly came into Q3.
[28:23.200 -> 28:24.000] Yeah. Yeah.
[28:24.000 -> 28:25.680] And I was so shocked.
[28:26.120 -> 28:27.080] Like what's going on?
[28:27.080 -> 28:29.480] What suddenly happened with Sruel?
[28:31.240 -> 28:33.360] And even in the race, he did pretty decent.
[28:33.360 -> 28:35.880] He came in what? P8, P9, something like that.
[28:35.880 -> 28:36.800] It was pretty decent.
[28:37.160 -> 28:38.360] Or was it P10, I think.
[28:38.360 -> 28:39.520] It was one point. Yeah, P10.
[28:41.240 -> 28:46.200] Yeah, basically, he ended where he started, But I'm happy with how it went for him.
[28:46.200 -> 28:48.840] Because that was a super start.
[28:48.840 -> 28:52.680] And that too, he started at P10 because he had an issue during qualification.
[28:52.680 -> 28:54.520] And he couldn't participate in Q3 at all.
[28:54.520 -> 28:58.480] True. We were talking about Alpi a few minutes back.
[28:58.480 -> 29:01.440] And I want to come back to Ocon for that.
[29:01.440 -> 29:06.720] I feel it was a disappointing performance from Ocon to be honest.
[29:06.720 -> 29:12.720] I mean, if we were to see, he did end up gaining three positions from where he started.
[29:12.720 -> 29:18.480] But overall, I feel like it was still a disappointing position, disappointing play from him.
[29:18.480 -> 29:23.560] Because he was at an advantage of a whole pit stop with the others.
[29:23.560 -> 29:28.560] Sure, there was a VSC and a safety car, so that puts the advantages to Moot.
[29:28.560 -> 29:35.360] But at the end, I think he could have still taken advantage of that five-second penalty from Science
[29:35.360 -> 29:41.040] and been just one more position up into P8 with Science at P9.
[29:41.040 -> 29:44.400] Yeah. So, I think overall, we had a great race, of course.
[29:44.400 -> 29:46.000] But I think the
[29:46.000 -> 29:53.080] orange smoke man, like it was back kind of, they were able to kind of control during the
[29:53.080 -> 29:59.120] race, but as soon as Max won, it was just all out, you know, orange screen everywhere
[29:59.120 -> 30:09.200] again. I think this is basically the Vuvuzela of F1, right? I think we can claim that for sure. True. That's a nice way to put it. For sure. For sure.
[30:09.200 -> 30:12.000] And the commentators say, I mean, I'm...
[30:12.000 -> 30:16.000] Please, I hope I'm right that they were being sarcastic.
[30:16.000 -> 30:20.000] But yeah, like, looks like a couple made through security.
[30:20.000 -> 30:22.640] It was not a couple. It was not a couple.
[30:22.640 -> 30:32.500] It was not a couple. It was not a couple. But well at least I'm glad that they were able to not start those during the race.
[30:32.500 -> 30:36.000] And especially didn't throw anything into the track unlike Quali.
[30:36.000 -> 30:38.000] Which was utterly ridiculous.
[30:38.000 -> 30:42.000] If you had seen that, they had to pause with session Q2 I think or Q1.
[30:42.000 -> 30:45.320] Because two things,
[30:48.680 -> 30:49.200] we have to mention this. One is the smoke grenade that they threw in.
[30:50.560 -> 30:52.360] And second was pigeons.
[30:55.920 -> 30:56.960] Some hardcore metal shit pigeons out there in Netherlands.
[30:57.800 -> 30:58.280] For sure.
[31:01.840 -> 31:06.000] Did you see F2? The pigeons were like casually crossing the track. That one pigeon wanted to cross. Oh wait, one more car.
[31:06.000 -> 31:08.000] Oh wait, one more car.
[31:08.000 -> 31:11.000] And I feel like what was happening was like,
[31:11.000 -> 31:14.000] the pigeon was taking two steps at a time,
[31:14.000 -> 31:17.000] squeezing the cars more and more into that
[31:17.000 -> 31:20.000] pre-gravel place.
[31:22.000 -> 31:27.400] Moving chicanes. See, there you have it. Moving chicanes. Oh, damn.
[31:27.400 -> 31:30.040] I gotta write this down.
[31:30.040 -> 31:32.840] This is yet another t-shirt quote from Sarang.
[31:32.840 -> 31:35.840] Pigeons are moving chicanes at Zandvoort.
[31:35.840 -> 31:36.840] Yes.
[31:36.840 -> 31:37.840] Yeah.
[31:37.840 -> 31:42.560] Yeah. So, yeah, that was something fun.
[31:42.560 -> 31:44.760] I think overall this weekend was pretty fun.
[31:44.760 -> 31:46.200] Honestly, like the race I
[31:46.840 -> 31:49.040] like when in the morning when I woke up I
[31:49.960 -> 31:53.880] Said to my friend that you know, I'm sure the race is going to be very boring today
[31:53.880 -> 31:56.600] I don't know why I'm watching this but then
[31:57.440 -> 32:01.760] Right now I can say that it was a very fun race and I'm glad I saw it. It was yeah
[32:01.760 -> 32:04.040] It was it was nice a lot of things happening. I
[32:03.840 -> 32:05.520] I'm glad I saw it. It was nice. There was a lot of things happening.
[32:10.800 -> 32:11.680] I think the only thing I liked to be honest from the crowd beyond everything that was orange was
[32:18.000 -> 32:19.040] this part where we had like fans arranged in a way where we could see like the Dutch flag.
[32:24.240 -> 32:28.040] That was a nice way to put the Dutch patriotism up. And honestly, that's how it should be, not this orange smoke shit, right?
[32:28.040 -> 32:30.480] Like this is what true celebration is about.
[32:30.480 -> 32:34.720] This is what, you know, fans coming together and doing something awesome is about
[32:35.160 -> 32:39.760] not just polluting the track even more than that's necessary.
[32:39.880 -> 32:43.040] You know, and, you know, honestly, if you remember last year,
[32:43.040 -> 32:45.360] we were praising the DUT GP because
[32:45.360 -> 32:50.280] they did the whole token system for recycling and everything very well.
[32:50.280 -> 32:54.360] And they did, you know, all of those aspects, they handled very well.
[32:54.360 -> 32:57.920] And I really hope the organizers like, you know, clam down on this a lot more.
[32:57.920 -> 33:03.440] They should honestly just hand out lifetime bans for people who bring in these smoke screens
[33:03.440 -> 33:06.240] so that, you know, it really deters them from getting it in.
[33:06.240 -> 33:11.360] But either ways, I love the Dutch flag that they put on.
[33:11.360 -> 33:15.000] And yeah, that's how it should be, honestly.
[33:15.000 -> 33:19.120] Fair enough. Fair enough. And on that bombshell,
[33:19.120 -> 33:25.640] I'm going to take this from Jeremy Clarkson for sure. I love how this... Sorry, Jeremy.
[33:25.640 -> 33:27.440] Yeah, sue us. No, please don't.
[33:27.440 -> 33:30.440] Please don't.
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