2022 Belgian GP w/ Dyanne Haagsman

We return to Spa Francochamps after 2 years for the 2022 Belgium GP, yes we do not count last year as a race. Another race and Charles is still shit out of luck, while max was in complete beast mode and walking to his victory. Absolutely stunning dominance by the Red Bull camp. While the race itself was somewhat boring, we did get some good wheel to wheel action through the race.

Today joining us as the 3rd host is, Dyanne Haagsman, who is a F1 and Bottas superfan and is a F1 content creator. We had a pleasure talking to Dyanne about her experiences of attending Grand Prixs and discuss about the dirty underbelly of the F1 community. 

In this episode we discuss:

1. Piastri probably: "How dare you give me a F1 seat!"

2. Alonso the agent of Chaos 🕵🏽

3. Hamilton walking alone all the way to Zandvoort

4. Max in a F1 car while others in F2 🏎️

5. Perez still in contention for WDC?

7. How do we stop hooliganism on tracks?

8. The disgusting underbelly of F1 🤮

9. Just bad luck for the prancing horse

10. The Bottas hot Goss. 🔥

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Music:

Intro: Howling (Sting) - Gunnar Olsen

Outro: Your Intro by Audionautix

**Navigating the Belgian Grand Prix: A Post-Race Analysis**

- **The Thrilling Three-Wide Overtake:** Diona, an F1 enthusiast who witnessed the race live at Spa, recounts the exhilarating three-wide overtake by Esteban Ocon on Fernando Alonso and Pierre Gasly. This remarkable maneuver showcased Ocon's exceptional skills and highlighted the intense competition on the track.

- **Alpine's Progress and Driver Drama:** Despite not having high expectations for Alpine's performance, Diona was pleasantly surprised by Esteban Ocon's impressive overtakes. However, the team's progress is overshadowed by the ongoing driver drama, with Fernando Alonso leaving and Oscar Piastri's uncertain future.

- **Alonso's Agent of Chaos Persona:** Fernando Alonso's fiery radio message criticizing Lewis Hamilton for impeding his race adds to his reputation as an "agent of chaos." Diona shares an amusing anecdote about an encounter with Alonso at an Alpine pit lane, where he jokingly berated the team for a mistake.

- **Hamilton's Professionalism Amidst Controversy:** In contrast to Alonso's outburst, Diona praises Lewis Hamilton's professional response to the incident. Hamilton acknowledged his mistake, despite facing criticism from the media. His solitary walk on the track after the race is seen as a symbol of his resilience and determination.

- **Max Verstappen's Untouchable Dominance:** Max Verstappen's commanding victory at Spa is likened to Lewis Hamilton's performance in Brazil last year. Starting from 15th position, Verstappen displayed incredible pace and skill, leaving his rivals trailing behind. His dominance raises questions about whether Sergio Perez can still challenge him for the World Drivers' Championship.

- **Perez's Contention for WDC:** While Max Verstappen holds a significant lead in the championship standings, Sergio Perez remains in contention for the title. Perez briefly attempted to defend his position against Verstappen but ultimately could not match his teammate's pace. The Mexican driver's chances of winning the WDC depend on Verstappen's consistency and potential misfortunes.

- **Pierre Gasly's Mindset and Potential:** Diona believes that Pierre Gasly has the potential to be a world champion if he focuses on improving his skills and overcoming his mental hurdles. She highlights his preoccupation with beating Sergio Perez, which may have hindered his performance. Alpine is seen as a potential destination for Gasly, given his French nationality and the team's desire to create an all-French driver lineup.

- **The Dark Underbelly of F1: Harassment and Misogyny:** Diona shares her personal experiences of harassment at F1 races, including an incident where a man inappropriately touched her. She emphasizes the need for stricter measures to prevent such behavior, such as banning alcohol consumption at races. Diona also discusses the disturbing request made to Emma Kimilainen, a female racing driver, to pose naked for a magazine in exchange for a seat in IndyCar.

- **The Lack of Female Representation in F1:** Diona expresses her disappointment at the lack of female representation in F1, despite Jamie Chadwick's impressive achievements in the W Series. She criticizes Stefano Domenicali, the CEO of Formula 1, for his pessimistic remarks about the possibility of a female driver entering F1 in the next five years. Diona applauds Nico Rosberg and Sebastian Vettel for speaking out against Domenicali's comments. **Summary of the F1 Fan Fiction Podcast Episode**

**Introduction:**
The podcast begins with the hosts discussing the 2022 Belgian Grand Prix at Spa-Francorchamps, highlighting Max Verstappen's dominance and Charles Leclerc's unfortunate luck. They also welcome a special guest, Dyanne Haagsman, a Formula 1 and Valtteri Bottas superfan and content creator.

**Topics Discussed:**

1. **Piastri's Frustration:** The hosts address Oscar Piastri's disappointment at not securing a Formula 1 seat despite his impressive performances in the lower categories.

2. **Alonso's Role as Agent of Chaos:** They discuss Fernando Alonso's reputation as a troublemaker and his ability to stir up drama in the paddock.

3. **Hamilton's Lonely Journey to Zandvoort:** The hosts speculate on Lewis Hamilton's feelings as he travels to the Dutch Grand Prix without his usual entourage due to security concerns.

4. **Max Verstappen's Superiority:** They marvel at Max Verstappen's incredible pace and dominance in the race, leaving his rivals far behind.

5. **Perez's WDC Contention:** The hosts debate whether Sergio Perez can still challenge for the World Drivers' Championship despite Max Verstappen's commanding lead.

6. **Combating Hooliganism at Tracks:** They discuss the issue of hooliganism and unruly behavior at race tracks, particularly the use of orange smoke, and suggest potential solutions to address this problem.

7. **The Disgusting Underbelly of Formula 1:** Dyanne Haagsman shares her experiences of encountering unpleasant and toxic behavior within the Formula 1 community, including instances of sexism and gatekeeping.

8. **Ferrari's Unfortunate Luck:** The hosts commiserate over Ferrari's continued misfortune, citing Charles Leclerc's engine issues and strategic missteps as examples of their struggles.

9. **Bottas Gossip:** Dyanne Haagsman reveals some behind-the-scenes stories and anecdotes involving Valtteri Bottas, including his interactions with Toto Wolff and his girlfriend's alleged behavior towards fans.

**Conclusion:**
The podcast wraps up with a call for unity and respect among Formula 1 fans, emphasizing the importance of supporting drivers and teams without resorting to hate or negativity.

[00:00.000 -> 00:09.140] There's a parallel split between the Red Bull and the Ferrari and the Red Bull says faster on straights and the Ferrari says faster in the pits.
[00:09.140 -> 00:11.540] True. That's true.
[00:11.540 -> 00:14.940] That's hard but that's true.
[00:14.940 -> 00:16.440] Yeah, it's true.
[00:31.740 -> 00:34.080] Hello, hello, we are back from the summer break. But well, the episodes kept coming to you.
[00:34.080 -> 00:38.920] If you haven't checked out the summer break episodes, we've got two special fireside chat
[00:38.920 -> 00:49.120] episodes with you, a racer turned entrepreneur, Akshay Gu Gupta and child prodigy, currently a driver in the W Series,
[00:49.920 -> 00:56.080] the youngest ever on the grid Juju Noda and with her, translating for her is Hideki Noda,
[00:56.080 -> 01:02.960] her father and an ex F1 driver. Go check them out if you haven't already. This episode we talk about
[01:03.680 -> 01:06.680] Spa. Finally after two years we race here. Yes, I. Finally, after two years, we race here.
[01:06.680 -> 01:10.040] Yes, I'm going to say after two years because I don't count last year.
[01:10.040 -> 01:11.640] We are at Belgium.
[01:11.640 -> 01:13.360] We are your hosts.
[01:13.360 -> 01:14.360] I am Akash.
[01:14.360 -> 01:15.960] And I'm Sarang.
[01:15.960 -> 01:17.960] And I am Diona.
[01:17.960 -> 01:21.960] And I'm an F1 fan and I like to talk about my F1 experience.
[01:21.960 -> 01:24.120] There you go, folks.
[01:24.120 -> 01:24.800] Welcome, Diona.
[01:24.800 -> 01:25.720] Welcome, welcomeiyana.
[01:26.440 -> 01:26.480] Welcome, welcome.
[01:27.320 -> 01:28.040] Welcome to the show.
[01:28.960 -> 01:30.920] There you go folks. Today, you're going to have three hosts.
[01:31.000 -> 01:34.200] Um, Diyana is here to tell us some amazing stories.
[01:34.200 -> 01:38.920] We've been talking with her, uh, before we hit the recording button and God, it's,
[01:38.960 -> 01:41.400] it's, it's going to be a, it's going to be a banger.
[01:41.600 -> 01:43.080] Stay to the end of the episode.
[01:43.400 -> 01:46.000] Uh, with that, let's get into the episode.
[01:46.000 -> 01:52.000] You know what, I want to lead in a very unconventional way.
[01:52.000 -> 01:56.000] Alpine. I had high hopes from them and boy did they deliver.
[01:56.000 -> 01:59.000] Just general thoughts on the weekend and Alpine.
[01:59.000 -> 02:01.000] Diona, we'll start off with you.
[02:01.000 -> 02:06.200] Yeah, well I was in Spa and I didn't expect to be
[02:06.200 -> 02:13.040] honest a lot from Alpine, but Esteban Ocon, he had some really nice overtakes.
[02:13.360 -> 02:18.920] Like it was, I think he had like two times that he, you know, he had like two
[02:18.920 -> 02:25.400] overtakes and he overtook two cars. That's insane. so good. Nice to see that in real life.
[02:25.920 -> 02:29.640] It's funny how though, you know, like when Alpine is actually making some
[02:29.640 -> 02:32.160] progress, everybody's trying to leave the team suddenly.
[02:33.320 -> 02:35.480] That's true. That's so true.
[02:37.720 -> 02:40.760] And I think that's always been the case. Like think about Renault, right?
[02:40.920 -> 02:47.160] Like they were making progress. Uh, this left. Now Alpine, they are again making progress.
[02:47.160 -> 02:51.760] Both, Piastry as well as this guy Alonso left.
[02:51.760 -> 02:56.680] Dude, what drama with Piastry, man.
[02:56.680 -> 03:00.480] But anyways, that's a topic for a whole different session, I guess.
[03:00.480 -> 03:02.720] But you are right, Deanna.
[03:02.720 -> 03:06.800] I mean, like that three wide on that main straight.
[03:06.800 -> 03:12.200] Oh, by the way, we gotta tell our audiences. I don't know if you missed Deona saying she was at spa.
[03:12.200 -> 03:22.960] And kid you not, she has seen the 3 wide overtake by Ocon on Betel and Gasly by her own set of eyes and not on the screen like you or me.
[03:22.960 -> 03:26.080] So, Deona, you wanna tell us how was that three wide overtake?
[03:26.760 -> 03:30.960] Like, yeah, it was, it was insane. Like we were,
[03:30.960 -> 03:34.600] we were standing there and we were like, everyone was like, what is happening?
[03:34.640 -> 03:39.600] This is insane. It was so cool. And, you know,
[03:39.600 -> 03:40.280] I can also tell,
[03:40.280 -> 03:44.760] talk about the experience that I had with Alpi in the pit lane,
[03:44.960 -> 03:45.720] because that's such
[03:45.720 -> 03:46.720] a funny story.
[03:46.720 -> 03:56.680] Yeah, we were in a pit lane and my friend Aoki had a sign which announced me for Azure
[03:56.680 -> 03:57.680] driver Alpine.
[03:57.680 -> 04:05.000] And, you know, it was, you know, about PLC and then I'll be
[04:05.000 -> 04:10.000] most that and we were like looking around and stuff.
[04:10.840 -> 04:14.120] And then that same guy, he came to us like, you can't post it.
[04:14.120 -> 04:15.840] That's so bad for the company, you know,
[04:15.840 -> 04:20.840] which is they got mad and they were like, yeah, sorry,
[04:20.840 -> 04:22.600] but made that mistake.
[04:22.600 -> 04:26.720] It was, it was on your side, you know, not us.
[04:26.720 -> 04:31.280] So, like the guys there, the mechanics were like laughing
[04:31.280 -> 04:33.120] because they're like young guys.
[04:33.120 -> 04:37.080] And then the boss came and it was over.
[04:37.080 -> 04:40.040] So yeah, it was a funny story.
[04:40.040 -> 04:42.760] You know, it's like such a big mistake
[04:42.760 -> 04:45.040] and I still didn't know what went wrong,
[04:45.240 -> 04:47.040] you know, with Piastri and with Oving.
[04:47.600 -> 04:49.400] But yeah, we'll see.
[04:49.400 -> 04:52.440] I'm curious when they will announce him somewhere.
[04:53.720 -> 04:58.800] I mean, rumor has it Piastri is going into that Daniel's seat, right?
[04:58.800 -> 04:59.920] So, yeah.
[05:00.040 -> 05:00.400] Yeah.
[05:00.800 -> 05:03.240] And I've also heard that they're suing him as well.
[05:03.240 -> 05:05.120] I mean, him and McLaren because of
[05:05.920 -> 05:11.520] some contract issues and everything, but there's a lot of drama going on. It seems,
[05:12.080 -> 05:18.320] from what I've heard, it seems like Piazzi had some exit clause in his contract which expired
[05:18.320 -> 05:28.600] exactly on the day when Alonso announced his exit from Alpine. So it's possible that they probably kind of coordinated that in the sense that
[05:29.600 -> 05:34.600] he gave him a out by announcing that just, but yeah,
[05:34.600 -> 05:35.440] let's say,
[05:36.160 -> 05:39.800] but you talk about Alonso. Sorry, sorry, Diane. Go ahead.
[05:39.840 -> 05:45.160] No, no, I never saw something like this before. You know, it was insane.
[05:47.240 -> 05:49.680] People, people would fight for an F1 seat.
[05:49.680 -> 05:51.000] And here's this guy.
[05:51.240 -> 05:53.080] Like how dare you give me an F1 seat.
[06:02.080 -> 06:05.640] At first I genuinely thought it was just a troll or sarcasm.
[06:05.640 -> 06:08.280] I was trying to find the subtext into it.
[06:08.280 -> 06:09.640] But no, that was all true.
[06:09.640 -> 06:11.800] No, it was legit.
[06:11.800 -> 06:13.600] Yeah.
[06:13.600 -> 06:16.520] But you mentioned Alonzo there.
[06:16.520 -> 06:22.520] And wow, I for one love when it's Alonzo on the radio.
[06:22.520 -> 06:27.000] And that too, Alonzo versus Vettel, like, sorry, Hamilton,
[06:27.000 -> 06:30.480] like it takes me back to 2007 and like all the revival,
[06:30.800 -> 06:32.800] like it's all then starts coming back.
[06:33.800 -> 06:38.120] Yup. Yup. Yup. No, I think it was, it was like superb.
[06:38.120 -> 06:42.760] Like he was so mad at Hamilton, especially, I mean, it was Hamilton's fault.
[06:42.760 -> 06:43.040] I mean,
[06:43.040 -> 06:49.200] I have to say that because he just closed the door on him from the outside, which just makes no sense. Where was he supposed to go?
[06:50.320 -> 06:54.160] And of course, Hamilton, like kind of destroyed his own race in that sense.
[06:54.160 -> 07:00.640] But that radio message, man, I just like read from it. It's like, yeah, what an idiot closing
[07:00.640 -> 07:06.440] the door from the outside. I mean, we had a mega start, but this guy only knows how to drive and start and
[07:06.440 -> 07:10.680] post really spicy comment.
[07:11.240 -> 07:16.200] Yeah, it's a spicy comment, you know, but we all know that's not true because,
[07:16.200 -> 07:22.200] you know, he started when the end wonder race, but you know, Alonso and Hamilton,
[07:22.240 -> 07:30.320] it's just not a mix, you know, Alonso once,, it's just not a mix. Alonso said that he enjoyed the last five minutes of the race
[07:30.320 -> 07:32.800] because he heard that Neco got a penalty.
[07:32.800 -> 07:37.840] So he got a chance to win the championship.
[07:37.840 -> 07:39.680] It's the same, you know.
[07:39.680 -> 07:41.680] It's just a match.
[07:41.680 -> 07:52.000] Did you ask Neco that last year that Alonso was like, Lewis was coming and then Alonso was like, mugs, mugs, mugs, super mugs, mugs, mugs.
[07:52.000 -> 07:53.000] Where was this?
[07:53.000 -> 08:05.200] Really? Yeah, I don't know. After a race and Alonso was standing there, he was like super mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, mugs, m is serious. And then Alonso was like, oops.
[08:11.440 -> 08:11.960] Yeah.
[08:11.960 -> 08:12.480] Nice.
[08:12.480 -> 08:13.480] So Alonso just won that.
[08:13.480 -> 08:15.800] I see Alonso as a, you know, agent of chaos.
[08:15.800 -> 08:17.440] Like that's what he's there for.
[08:17.440 -> 08:20.520] Like he's just an agent of chaos.
[08:21.000 -> 08:21.520] Yeah.
[08:21.520 -> 08:25.600] chaos. Yeah.
[08:30.600 -> 08:31.200] But I like how Hamilton sort of played it off.
[08:32.960 -> 08:37.600] I think like after he saw the footage, he sort of acknowledged that he was at fault. Yeah. I mean,
[08:38.520 -> 08:41.680] it was very unlike him. I mean, that was just a very unusual scenario.
[08:41.680 -> 08:45.000] You never see a Hamilton make those sort of mistakes.
[08:47.240 -> 08:51.680] Yeah. And even like the press was like trying to spice it up a little, of course,
[08:51.680 -> 08:56.400] like one of the reporters like quoted this quote to him and asked
[08:56.760 -> 08:58.760] Hamilton, like, you know, what do you have to say about it?
[08:58.760 -> 09:02.480] And he just shut him up basically saying like, it doesn't matter what he says.
[09:02.560 -> 09:04.360] I made a mistake and I know it. And that's it.
[09:04.880 -> 09:07.160] That was the perfect response that you could give.
[09:10.000 -> 09:14.300] But I think there was this weird image of Hamilton just walking alone on the
[09:14.300 -> 09:16.520] track. Did you see that yesterday during the race?
[09:21.440 -> 09:22.280] Yes.
[09:23.440 -> 09:27.000] It seemed like he's just walking just walking it off to Netherlands directly.
[09:27.000 -> 09:29.000] People giving him directions.
[09:29.000 -> 09:34.000] Then the song of, I forget the band, but like, I walk a lonely road.
[09:34.000 -> 09:36.000] Oh, right.
[09:36.000 -> 09:38.000] Green Day song, right?
[09:38.000 -> 09:40.000] Thank you, Green Day.
[09:40.000 -> 09:42.000] For no reason.
[09:42.000 -> 09:44.000] Yeah.
[09:44.000 -> 09:48.160] I think he had also refused to go to the medical center.
[09:48.160 -> 09:48.760] I don't know why.
[09:48.760 -> 09:50.800] I think, like, I think it was mad.
[09:50.800 -> 09:53.600] Or maybe he was just walking to the medical center by himself.
[09:53.600 -> 09:53.880] Yeah.
[09:56.360 -> 09:57.280] Oh no.
[09:57.480 -> 09:57.920] Yeah.
[09:57.920 -> 10:03.720] You know, I think he don't deserve, um, like this car, but how he's handling it.
[10:04.120 -> 10:05.400] It's so professional.
[10:05.400 -> 10:11.800] He's constantly competing and constantly trying to be the best.
[10:11.800 -> 10:16.000] Even though he can't be at this point, trying to beat his teammates,
[10:16.000 -> 10:17.800] but also helping his teammates.
[10:17.800 -> 10:20.400] I think he's very professional in this.
[10:20.400 -> 10:25.840] And if I compare that with Mox because Mox should say if I will lose I just retire.
[10:26.560 -> 10:34.000] You know if he has that much championships he never gets used in life to lose.
[10:34.000 -> 10:40.080] Never. Mox is always winning and he also said it by himself if my contract ends
[10:40.720 -> 10:48.560] I will think I will just retire because he will be 30 or whatever. So, he will just retire because then he knows he will probably lose because
[10:48.560 -> 10:51.000] Werku isn't that good anymore. And then he left.
[10:51.000 -> 10:55.400] And if I compare that with Lewis, he stays and be the best for his team.
[10:55.400 -> 11:00.000] And that's what I can really, really, really, really appreciate with Lewis.
[11:00.000 -> 11:03.000] And I have big respect for that. Big respect.
[11:03.000 -> 11:07.440] Fair enough. He was the one marshalling his own car yesterday, too.
[11:07.440 -> 11:11.680] He got like that exhaust. Yeah. And he was trying to see that there's no fire.
[11:12.200 -> 11:13.840] And yeah, he's a good guy.
[11:13.840 -> 11:17.320] And good you bring that up because that reminds me of two topics.
[11:17.320 -> 11:20.760] One, we talk about like the psyche
[11:21.440 -> 11:31.120] of a driver with respect to their upbringing, the family and like, the whole psychological part of it with Akshay Gupta on our Fireside episode.
[11:31.120 -> 11:34.680] It's a wonderful conversation. So, go check that out.
[11:34.680 -> 11:41.320] But that's a good segue into Red Bull and Max and their performance yesterday.
[11:41.320 -> 11:45.520] I feel like... I think, Sarang, you pointed out before we started recording this,
[11:45.520 -> 11:49.880] cause Max yesterday was what Hamilton was Brazil last year.
[11:50.160 -> 11:52.800] Yeah, yeah, for sure. It felt, yeah,
[11:52.840 -> 11:57.080] I think it was like a complete domination by Max yesterday. Uh,
[11:57.120 -> 12:01.640] he was untouchable. Like he started 15th, he was passing people. Like, you know,
[12:01.640 -> 12:08.700] it seemed like he was driving a F1 car while others were driving an F2 car or something, because he was just going past everybody.
[12:09.700 -> 12:16.740] It just looks like he's like the other cars and like even he started
[12:16.740 -> 12:19.700] sporting, yeah, 14 and he was first.
[12:19.740 -> 12:22.100] And then like 20 seconds ahead of check.
[12:22.100 -> 12:22.900] Oh yeah.
[12:25.360 -> 12:28.960] I don't know where that's insane. another planet. I don't know where, but that's insane, you know?
[12:28.960 -> 12:31.720] I don't know how he can do it, but he has so much confidence,
[12:31.720 -> 12:35.680] and he's not thinking about winning.
[12:35.680 -> 12:38.320] But if he's like that, he's happy with the points,
[12:38.320 -> 12:42.440] because he knows that Ferrari will probably not get that.
[12:42.440 -> 12:43.440] That's true.
[12:43.440 -> 12:44.760] That's true.
[12:44.760 -> 12:49.280] Yeah, he has so much confidence confidence and he learned that you know from his dad and
[12:49.280 -> 12:56.560] stuff and that's yeah it's it's it's insane how he's doing this and i i'm you know convinced that
[12:56.560 -> 13:05.200] he will get world that he gets a world championship um because he's like 98 points ahead of Checo.
[13:06.080 -> 13:12.800] Yeah, yeah. It's Checo. Yeah, Checo is such a great driver but I mean that Checo you know is
[13:12.800 -> 13:19.200] letting Max win the championship from now on. Yep, seemed though that Perez did try a little
[13:19.200 -> 13:30.000] like he tried but he couldn't do anything but he tried holding Max back a bit, you know, when Max basically reached the second position and Perez was in lead, I think, at that point.
[13:30.000 -> 13:50.040] Oh, no, sorry. Sainz was in lead and Perez was second at that point. And Perez did try to put up a defense against him, kind of. But yeah, that didn't matter at all. He just went by. But I think the thing there is, too, is I think both Max and Perez have vocally identified
[13:50.040 -> 13:54.200] that both of them at this point are in contention for a WDC.
[13:54.200 -> 14:03.760] Because people have asked Max quite a lot of questions in terms of supporting Perez or where all of this is going.
[14:03.760 -> 14:07.000] And he said, he's still in the fight for a WDC.
[14:07.440 -> 14:10.600] And he's getting a step closer because after yesterday's race,
[14:11.360 -> 14:16.240] the WDC standings, Leclerc drops a position to P3
[14:16.240 -> 14:20.680] and Perez is up at P2 now with 191 and 186.
[14:22.240 -> 14:30.120] And I want to point this out to that one of our listeners, Ravi Shah, drravishshah24 at
[14:30.120 -> 14:31.120] Instagram.
[14:31.120 -> 14:39.120] He DMed us saying, well, if Charles was going to get a penalty and if he was giving a toe
[14:39.120 -> 14:49.020] to science, why couldn't Max give a toe during qualifying with Perez, which was a very valid point. Cause like Perez could have easily gotten P1 cause A,
[14:49.020 -> 14:52.380] the toe with Ferrari wasn't good and then science messed up too.
[14:52.380 -> 14:56.820] So there was a very valid point that Perez could have had like the full
[14:56.820 -> 14:57.660] position.
[14:57.740 -> 15:02.500] Yeah. Yeah. I was also curious about that. Uh, you know,
[15:02.500 -> 15:06.160] of course the people here in my country didn't really care about that one,
[15:08.800 -> 15:15.280] I didn't really understand why they didn't. Because he could easily get full position
[15:15.280 -> 15:24.000] because Czechoslovakia is fast. So I didn't understand why. It totally reminded me of
[15:33.000 -> 15:50.400] And it totally reminded me of, I think it was Azerbaijan 2018, I think, if I'm not wrong, where Ricardo Max, before they crashed, this was during the qualification where I remember that Max was super pissed off and he was saying things like you know it's about discipline it's about consistency if I have given him a toe he has to do and that's exactly what it reminded me of yesterday.
[15:50.400 -> 16:05.520] He wants dominance you know every time again, every time again just show everyone that he is the best and that's what he tried. Yeah, it felt like a little bit of hypocrisy in that sense to me.
[16:05.520 -> 16:11.920] I think that he should have turned the favour and given Perez the toe.
[16:11.920 -> 16:14.760] Because in all honesty, it didn't matter, right?
[16:14.760 -> 16:19.400] Would it have really mattered if Max started at P15 or P16?
[16:19.400 -> 16:23.680] No, given the result that there is, I think Max would have still won the race.
[16:23.680 -> 16:24.800] Exactly.
[16:24.800 -> 16:28.620] But it just shows good sportsmanship at this point.
[16:28.620 -> 16:31.540] Speaking of Red Bull, Casley.
[16:31.540 -> 16:36.900] Oh, man. Yeah, finally, he had a decent race.
[16:36.900 -> 16:41.700] This season overall, it seemed like he was not too comfortable with the car.
[16:41.700 -> 16:44.500] But I think yesterday, he kind of was doing pretty good.
[16:44.500 -> 16:52.320] Where did he end up? P9, think right? Yeah, he started from the pits. Oh yeah and that as well.
[16:52.320 -> 16:59.760] That's so good you know if you see how the car is then I think P9 is you know very good for
[16:59.760 -> 17:07.960] Alfa Raudi. But also like I think Pierre is such a talented driver. At some point he had so much in mind.
[17:07.960 -> 17:09.160] I need to beat Perez.
[17:09.160 -> 17:10.240] I need to beat Perez.
[17:10.240 -> 17:12.840] And also the comments he made about Perez.
[17:12.840 -> 17:16.920] In an interview, I was watching that interview where he was saying
[17:16.920 -> 17:21.000] if you look at Cecho's performance, he's not performing well.
[17:21.000 -> 17:22.840] And if you look at me, I'm way better.
[17:22.840 -> 17:24.800] Really? Did he?
[17:24.800 -> 17:27.200] When was this?
[17:28.960 -> 17:34.640] It was last season, like the season where he was like, is this good or not?
[17:34.640 -> 17:38.640] Then he was making a lot of plays and he had constantly in mind, I need to beat Perez,
[17:38.640 -> 17:44.880] I need to beat Perez and not, you know, getting better in his mind or with himself. And I think
[17:44.880 -> 17:47.800] that was really wrong from him because he's such a good driver.
[17:47.800 -> 17:49.540] He can be world champion.
[17:49.540 -> 17:53.880] I think if he looked at his skills and stuff, so good.
[17:53.880 -> 17:57.120] Diana, because you say this, I have a question for you.
[17:57.120 -> 18:11.000] Do you think Alpine would eye Gasly for that second seed? Yeah, I think they choose Pierre over Daniel.
[18:11.000 -> 18:16.800] Also because with the mindset and the mental issue things.
[18:16.800 -> 18:21.800] Daniel also thought about that he's missing home a lot.
[18:21.800 -> 18:23.800] That he's really with that in mind.
[18:23.800 -> 18:29.840] And if you need to choose between Pierre or Daniel,
[18:29.840 -> 18:33.680] then I see more potential in Pierre at the moment.
[18:33.680 -> 18:38.560] But they also have Mick Schumacher in their list.
[18:38.560 -> 18:40.800] That's very, very...
[18:40.800 -> 18:43.040] You don't know how it will turn out,
[18:43.040 -> 18:47.520] because he's performing some races but he's not consistent.
[18:47.520 -> 18:52.880] You don't know how it will be. But Pierre, he will perform the best he can.
[18:54.880 -> 18:59.840] There's another obstacle though for Schumacher, that's basically his association with Ferrari
[18:59.840 -> 19:05.160] Driving Academy because I don't think Ferrari will let him just go for sure.
[19:08.800 -> 19:09.040] I'm sure they would have a contract in place, which would like,
[19:11.360 -> 19:12.120] stop him from going to a competitor's team.
[19:14.680 -> 19:18.760] So I think that might be difficult. But PN I think is a very likely choice and it would become a French dream team.
[19:18.760 -> 19:19.080] Right.
[19:19.080 -> 19:23.280] Like it would be a French manufacturer with two French drivers.
[19:23.280 -> 19:27.720] And that's like, I don't think that's ever been in history ever.
[19:27.720 -> 19:32.360] So that would be also another point against Ricardo is cash money.
[19:32.360 -> 19:34.840] He asks for too much money, man.
[19:34.840 -> 19:37.320] He got it.
[19:37.320 -> 19:44.400] Yeah, like, he's a smart guy.
[19:44.400 -> 19:47.480] I will do the same. You want me to leave?
[19:47.520 -> 19:48.840] Okay, give me 21 million.
[19:49.040 -> 19:49.560] Yeah.
[19:49.560 -> 19:52.400] Seriously, no? Such a smart guy.
[19:53.120 -> 19:58.600] That's a good point because that at some level is bullying of some sort.
[19:59.480 -> 20:03.520] And with that said, folks,
[20:04.640 -> 20:07.600] now is the time when you sort of tune up your volumes
[20:07.600 -> 20:12.000] because we're going to get into special segment discussions with Deanna here.
[20:13.320 -> 20:19.400] And speaking of bullying, because we are in the European land, you know,
[20:19.400 -> 20:27.200] you can't miss the fact that there's just too much of enthusiasm and aggression.
[20:27.200 -> 20:33.440] Let's call it in a simpler way with the orange army that's there.
[20:33.440 -> 20:36.680] The orange smoke that you keep seeing.
[20:36.680 -> 20:44.400] And what we have here is beautiful because Deona has been to these races.
[20:44.400 -> 20:46.400] Deona has been to Austria races, Deanna has been to Austria,
[20:46.400 -> 20:51.400] she's been to Spa. Are you going to go to Zandvoort next weekend? Yeah, I will work
[20:51.400 -> 20:55.920] there. Awesome. So go check out her stories because she's going to be posting from there
[20:55.920 -> 21:07.760] too. But what we want to go into here is a more serious topic, which is about the harassment. Cause it's, it's escalated off the roof over the past few months.
[21:08.880 -> 21:14.000] And let me put a disclaimer out there, at least for myself and Sarang here.
[21:14.000 -> 21:14.820] I mean,
[21:14.880 -> 21:19.880] we will never understand the mindset of someone who
[21:19.880 -> 21:23.720] was harassed. Cause again, it's obvious,
[21:23.720 -> 21:26.120] but like we'll never understand that mindset.
[21:26.120 -> 21:28.760] So if we do end up saying something,
[21:29.000 -> 21:33.440] please bear that in mind and don't cuss us for being
[21:33.440 -> 21:34.280] ignorant.
[21:35.960 -> 21:38.240] But we want to hear from Diana,
[21:38.240 -> 21:42.720] her story on what actually happened at Austrian Graupri.
[21:43.600 -> 21:47.440] What does this harassment feel like? What was it? And then what
[21:47.440 -> 21:53.840] do you think should FIA do? And what's being done? And you know, just walk us through everything.
[21:55.680 -> 22:06.800] Yeah, well, at first, I experienced some harassment in a spa this weekend. Like a guy was, I was just talking with some fans
[22:06.800 -> 22:09.840] and then like a middle-aged guy went to me
[22:09.840 -> 22:12.140] and he grabbed my neck and kissed me.
[22:14.500 -> 22:16.040] It's insane, I didn't know that guy.
[22:16.040 -> 22:18.120] And there were some people laughing around it.
[22:18.120 -> 22:20.080] And then I said, do you really think this is,
[22:20.080 -> 22:21.480] I feel really uncomfortable.
[22:21.480 -> 22:23.880] And then I said, if you do it once again,
[22:23.880 -> 22:26.380] I will kick him because I will
[22:26.380 -> 22:28.100] not, you know, accept those things.
[22:28.380 -> 22:32.700] And then he was with, I had a, I had a, I had pens with like holes in it and he
[22:32.700 -> 22:37.300] went with his hands in a wall and I, you know, I like, I, I, I like, I pushed him
[22:37.300 -> 22:40.220] on the face, like, no, you know, don't do that.
[22:40.740 -> 22:43.900] And then, um, it was, yeah, getting out of hands.
[22:44.400 -> 22:48.000] Uh, he was showing his thing to the cameras and stuff.
[22:48.000 -> 22:53.000] It's very weird and I can't understand why people are doing this.
[22:53.000 -> 22:59.000] What I think the FIA should do about this is just don't serve alcohol anymore.
[22:59.000 -> 23:08.080] Because if you don't, people will behave and you see it in Barcelona. In Barcelona they are not allowed
[23:08.800 -> 23:14.000] to drink or have alcohol or share alcohol and it's just normal people just act.
[23:14.800 -> 23:21.760] There are always people who do those things always but if people are not drunk
[23:21.760 -> 23:25.440] then their boss can say stop with that don't do those things because
[23:25.440 -> 23:30.880] they can think and you know I also have a lot of George Russell fans and Lewis fans and they are
[23:30.880 -> 23:37.600] you know Mercedes fans and they're just scared to come to the Netherlands and I feel so so bad for
[23:37.600 -> 23:46.000] that because I am Dutch and I you know I want them to come here, where we do these things.
[23:46.000 -> 23:47.500] People will just make comments to that.
[23:47.500 -> 23:52.300] And I have had, I experienced this beautiful moment at Spa.
[23:53.700 -> 23:58.100] There was, I was with my Louis Hamilton friends.
[23:59.600 -> 24:05.640] Then a few Dutch guys came to her because she had a British flag.
[24:06.080 -> 24:10.520] And then they said, like, can we please, please, please take a picture with you.
[24:10.520 -> 24:14.400] And they, then the English flag, because, you know, we want to make things good.
[24:14.760 -> 24:15.800] And then they made a picture.
[24:15.800 -> 24:18.040] And then I was like, wait, this is how it should be.
[24:18.560 -> 24:22.840] One community, just take pictures with everyone and act normal.
[24:23.320 -> 24:26.000] So that's my opinion.
[24:26.000 -> 24:28.000] But this is Spa, right?
[24:28.000 -> 24:32.000] I think Austria was way worse off than this, right?
[24:32.000 -> 24:34.000] Yeah, Austria...
[24:34.000 -> 24:36.000] I didn't experience things there.
[24:36.000 -> 24:38.000] Because I was at the main
[24:38.000 -> 24:40.000] stadium.
[24:40.000 -> 24:42.000] The tribune.
[24:42.000 -> 24:44.000] At the start-finish.
[24:44.000 -> 24:47.520] And there were like fans all fans
[24:47.520 -> 24:55.680] ferrari mercedes offer those things don't happen but if you go to the mux for stop it uh tribune
[24:55.680 -> 25:02.400] and there uh it's just not good because those people drink drink drink they start at 10 o'clock
[25:02.400 -> 25:11.440] at the camp things and they won't stop till late at night. You know I heard some things from my friends that they were like walking around
[25:13.200 -> 25:20.480] around the stage you know like and then Dutch fans were throwing things at them and saying like
[25:21.680 -> 25:30.920] they're saying like I will not say it in this, this zoom meeting because it's very, you know, uh, but it was very sexual and, uh,
[25:31.120 -> 25:32.520] that's not nice at all.
[25:33.000 -> 25:37.820] And, um, you know, I am a girl who can speak up for myself.
[25:37.920 -> 25:42.280] No, if someone tries to do things, then I will, then I will not accept that.
[25:42.280 -> 25:45.440] But there are girls who are scared to do that and they
[25:45.440 -> 25:51.360] will get them because they don't give anything back. And that's the dangerous thing of this
[25:51.360 -> 25:59.280] because you never know what people will do next.
[25:59.280 -> 26:25.680] I agree. It also happens that with these grandstands like Maxwell Stapleton Grandstand and things like that when people are kind of supporting one single person, it automatically kind of creates this mob mentality where everybody feels that they're invincible because they're part of a larger group. gives them this fake confidence as such you know which makes them behave even
[26:25.680 -> 26:30.320] worse than what they would if they were you know just alone in smaller groups as
[26:30.320 -> 26:35.120] well. So I don't know something to think about that as well that you know it's
[26:35.120 -> 26:40.240] they shouldn't keep these times like this because we are seeing this
[26:40.240 -> 26:44.600] happening more and more and especially with like the explosion of popularity of
[26:44.600 -> 26:46.080] F1 in recent times,
[26:46.880 -> 26:51.360] it's good that we are getting newer fans. I'm really happy about it but at the same time
[26:51.360 -> 26:58.560] we're also getting this mentality of supporting your player no matter what kind of a thing.
[26:58.560 -> 27:06.240] Which earlier didn't exist in F1 as much and I mean of course it always did but it didn't exist as much. Most F1 fans,
[27:06.240 -> 27:14.560] at least those that I know, support the sport rather than supporting a single team or a single
[27:15.280 -> 27:21.680] driver and such. Of course, you know about the cheering when Lewis Hamilton crashed, you know,
[27:26.560 -> 27:28.000] Lewis Hamilton crash, you know, I want to say something about that because I think that
[27:33.680 -> 27:39.600] it's not normal in the sport but if you look like with Mika Hakkinen and Schumacher when they were fighting in the championship, Mika had that crash, you heard the crowd cheering,
[27:39.600 -> 27:46.720] it's just something, yes, oh yes, no, it's just something and i think you know if it was a serious crash
[27:46.720 -> 27:54.320] the dutch fans not sure uh but it was not a serious crash and you saw you saw that he was okay
[27:54.320 -> 28:02.080] and i just something about the sport that if you see your rival crashing and your you know your
[28:02.080 -> 28:06.000] idol is winning or getting pull you're just happy for that happy because he crashed but your idol is winning or getting pulled, you're just happy for that.
[28:06.000 -> 28:09.500] Not happy because he crashed, but your idol is there.
[28:09.500 -> 28:11.500] And that's why they're cheering.
[28:11.500 -> 28:15.500] And if you look back at what I said with Schumacher and Mika Hakkinen,
[28:15.500 -> 28:17.500] it was the exact same.
[28:17.500 -> 28:23.500] And it's just now that the whole AVANT community is saying those things.
[28:23.500 -> 28:27.440] Like burning Lewis Hamilton caps. No, not done.
[28:27.440 -> 28:29.440] Wait, what?
[28:29.440 -> 28:40.880] Yeah, in Austria, in Hungary, they were burning Mercedes caps. And if you know Go, you can't do that.
[28:40.880 -> 28:48.240] You can't do that. It's so, if you do those things and I said on the page
[28:48.240 -> 28:54.400] if you support those actions, I said like if you support those actions, unfollow me
[28:54.400 -> 28:58.240] because I don't want you on the page. Don't do that here.
[28:58.240 -> 28:59.240] That's right.
[28:59.240 -> 29:02.240] Yeah, insane that those things happen.
[29:02.240 -> 29:05.640] I did not know this. This is weird. So, okay.
[29:06.040 -> 29:08.840] Anyways, anyways, it's getting a bit dark.
[29:09.520 -> 29:10.840] But while we are there...
[29:10.840 -> 29:13.480] This is the dark underbelly of F1, right?
[29:13.480 -> 29:18.600] Like, which we kind of do turn a blind eye towards kind of because we like the sport.
[29:18.600 -> 29:23.600] But I think it's also important to bring these topics up so that people know what's actually going on.
[29:23.600 -> 29:32.640] bring these topics up so that people know what's actually going on. I want to take it up a notch in the darkness because what the audience is about to hear is what we heard before we hit the record button.
[29:32.640 -> 29:48.080] And this goes into a similar parallel of women in F1 or women in the sport. Right. And kudos to Tatiana, who's recently, we heard the news a few days back
[29:48.080 -> 29:55.660] that she's going to be racing at F2, which is amazing. But that sort of spurred this
[29:55.660 -> 30:00.720] entire debate and conversation of how women in F1 are treated.
[30:00.720 -> 30:05.680] This is, there's this, folks, there's this very interesting thing, sad but
[30:05.680 -> 30:11.880] interesting, which we got to hear from Diana before we started recording about
[30:11.880 -> 30:16.160] someone asking for a seat in F1 and some requests that were made. IndyCar I
[30:16.160 -> 30:28.840] guess, but I'm saying IndyCar. Yeah, it was about Emma Kimilainen and she, someone from IndyCar was asking, yeah, you
[30:28.840 -> 30:34.560] can drive for us, but then you need to post for a magazine naked.
[30:34.560 -> 30:41.360] And yeah, then she got a break from racing because, you know, she's there to race and
[30:41.360 -> 30:47.720] not to do those things to erase. And I think, you know, I get sick of those things.
[30:47.720 -> 30:52.640] Like I get, it's disgusting. That's, you know, some people think it's normal.
[30:53.560 -> 30:54.520] And, um,
[30:55.440 -> 31:00.360] who's, who's this twisted mind thinking that this is normal in which world?
[31:01.040 -> 31:06.160] Yeah. I have no idea. Some people can't think straight at those moments. They think, oh, woman, and
[31:06.160 -> 31:11.600] they don't see a woman as a real powerful person. They just see a woman as someone who
[31:11.600 -> 31:18.920] could work something like that. So then they think it's normal. Thank God, there are now
[31:18.920 -> 31:29.000] many, many, many people who really appreciate women as they are but there are still those people who think it's normal to ask women to pose naked to go racing in the team.
[31:29.000 -> 31:32.000] There's just some sick twisted mind there.
[31:32.000 -> 31:35.000] There's just some sick twisted mind.
[31:35.000 -> 31:37.000] We can do that.
[31:37.000 -> 31:43.000] There's two things that come to my mind which is also twisted a bit.
[31:43.000 -> 31:45.940] The first one I don't have an
[31:45.940 -> 31:49.300] authentic source so probably I mean we don't have it in the show notes but
[31:49.300 -> 31:56.420] maybe someone listening can sort of find it and tag us somewhere but I've seen
[31:56.420 -> 32:03.820] this news where last year after Jamie Chadwick won her championship at WCD
[32:03.820 -> 32:06.800] she had enough points collected
[32:06.800 -> 32:10.680] over the three years batch that they're allowed to sort of accumulate which were
[32:10.680 -> 32:16.000] more than the 40 super license points which are required for an F1 seat. You
[32:16.000 -> 32:22.680] need 23 or 25 to get into FP1 and then progressively you need more plus 40 to
[32:22.680 -> 32:25.120] get into an F1 seat and And she collected more than that.
[32:25.120 -> 32:32.680] But there have been some other academy drivers younger to her, guys, obviously,
[32:32.920 -> 32:35.480] which were given precedence over her.
[32:35.480 -> 32:36.880] So there's one.
[32:36.880 -> 32:45.000] And then the other one came closer to home, closer to this weekend from our very own Dominic Chali,
[32:47.520 -> 32:49.960] Stefano Dominic Chali, F1 CEO,
[32:49.960 -> 32:52.480] where he said, and I quote,
[32:52.480 -> 32:54.400] before the Belgium Grand Prix weekend
[32:54.400 -> 32:58.240] that he cannot foresee a female driver getting into F1
[32:58.240 -> 33:03.240] in the next five years without a metaphorical meteoroid
[33:03.260 -> 33:07.680] of a driver coming through the ranks. I mean
[33:07.680 -> 33:14.040] those are some harsh words when you are a CEO and it's good to see that
[33:14.040 -> 33:20.540] likes of Nico Rosberg, Sebastian Vettel sort of called that out as not good
[33:20.540 -> 33:25.000] choice of words, not a right attitude and not the right thing to say.
[33:26.320 -> 33:28.560] And it's good. It's good. I'm so, so,
[33:28.560 -> 33:32.760] so looking forward to Wettel sort of standing up for what's right in the sport.
[33:33.160 -> 33:34.000] This is all.
[33:36.280 -> 33:38.320] Yeah. It's quite shameful, man. Like I'm,
[33:38.360 -> 33:43.360] I'm really sad that like even the CEO of F1 kind of puts out a statement like
[33:44.080 -> 33:45.080] that. It, it kind of puts out a statement like that.
[33:48.960 -> 33:50.400] It kind of shows like the bias that they have.
[33:53.680 -> 33:54.720] It's leaking. They're not able to even contain it.
[33:59.800 -> 34:01.720] I somewhere get it that maybe, you know, they don't have enough talent. And I'm just trying to play devil's advocate here.
[34:01.720 -> 34:05.000] Like maybe they don't have enough talent to be an F1 driver.
[34:05.000 -> 34:09.440] But some of them have enough points to at least be in FP1.
[34:09.440 -> 34:13.840] At least give them a chance to do that on a Friday.
[34:13.840 -> 34:28.000] Yeah, because the thing is, and that's just a fact, that women can't really last a two-hour race at this speed and G-force and stuff.
[34:28.000 -> 34:32.000] They can't, you know, with the body and stuff,
[34:32.000 -> 34:36.000] but what I think about the women in racing is that
[34:36.000 -> 34:40.000] you know, it's not nice if all the race like F2, F1,
[34:40.000 -> 34:44.000] Porsche Cup is before you and then you need
[34:44.000 -> 34:46.400] to race at 10 o'clock when no one is there.
[34:46.400 -> 34:47.400] Yeah, yeah.
[34:47.400 -> 34:52.320] They need to change that because you know, I stay for W Series because I support Beitze
[34:52.320 -> 34:54.320] Kvisser and Emma Kimmeleine.
[34:54.320 -> 35:01.000] But things need to change and what you also say like FP1 would be great.
[35:01.000 -> 35:06.320] It would be great to see how the women are doing, doing in everyone. And because
[35:06.320 -> 35:12.800] Jamie Chetwick, she's talented. Like she's dominating everything. And she's also British.
[35:12.800 -> 35:19.680] She is like good in sport. But let's just see how it, or maybe testing or something
[35:19.680 -> 35:27.160] like that. But just something, yeah. Women are not just some trash to throw away in the motorsport, you know.
[35:27.160 -> 35:33.280] Like do more, like maybe between Formula 2 and Formula 1 that you have W Series.
[35:33.280 -> 35:38.760] Because now they are not racing for anyone. They just race because they need to and no one is watching.
[35:38.760 -> 35:46.400] Yeah, I know we asked Juju Noda also, the same question, who is Jamie Chadwick's colleague and races with
[35:47.200 -> 35:50.400] at the W Series. And she had the same opinion. I mean, at this point,
[35:50.800 -> 35:55.280] maybe somewhere in the future, have an F1 for women and men separate.
[35:55.760 -> 35:59.520] But right now, I think the sport demands a mixed racing
[36:00.560 -> 36:02.560] for that sort of competition.
[36:02.960 -> 36:09.520] There's obviously will have to be change in rules because she also acknowledges the fact that there are physical and mental
[36:09.800 -> 36:12.360] limitations when it comes to men versus women.
[36:12.840 -> 36:14.000] And it's fine. It's fine.
[36:14.040 -> 36:20.120] But there are other avenues in which this can be morphed into and made into a mixed
[36:20.360 -> 36:21.360] racing.
[36:22.800 -> 36:27.840] And you know, I also have this opinion because I play golf ball and that it's a mixed
[36:27.840 -> 36:28.840] sport.
[36:28.840 -> 36:33.000] They have four boys and four girls and I see that, you know, sometimes I'm better than
[36:33.000 -> 36:36.840] the boys, you know, so it's, you can't compare that in the sport.
[36:36.840 -> 36:42.520] I also support the women in this sport because I know that women can beat men.
[36:42.520 -> 36:45.440] So opinion based on that.
[36:47.240 -> 36:52.600] For some American folks confused on what curve ball is, it's your baseball.
[36:53.640 -> 36:54.480] Think of your baseball.
[36:54.480 -> 36:58.560] It's like a mix of baseball and netball. It's a mix.
[36:58.560 -> 36:59.400] Just search for it.
[36:59.400 -> 37:02.160] Oh no, at this point, I'm just roasting Americans. Let's...
[37:07.720 -> 37:08.920] And for Indian folks listening to this, forget it.
[37:08.920 -> 37:09.760] Let's, let's move on.
[37:15.760 -> 37:16.600] Sorry, go ahead.
[37:17.440 -> 37:18.680] Sarang, you were going to say something.
[37:19.920 -> 37:22.320] I know I was just going to say that, you know,
[37:22.360 -> 37:28.800] I think like things are improving a bit. At least people are talking about it. That's the good thing.
[37:28.800 -> 37:34.960] Earlier people were not even talking about it. So I guess we are headed in the right direction at least.
[37:34.960 -> 37:42.000] Change will come. It will take time because all of these solutions, and let me put it this way,
[37:42.000 -> 37:45.320] because they are just band-aids right now, like talking about, you know,
[37:45.360 -> 37:50.160] like putting people in FP1 and like putting women in FP1 and everything that's,
[37:50.160 -> 37:51.280] that would certainly help.
[37:51.280 -> 37:56.280] But what's really needed is like it's needed from grassroots level that we need
[37:56.560 -> 38:01.080] more women in their younger age to get into karting.
[38:01.080 -> 38:03.120] A mixed road tax or a mixed karting.
[38:03.320 -> 38:04.160] Exactly.
[38:06.960 -> 38:12.800] get into karting. A mixed road tax or a mixed karting. Exactly. And also that's when possibly the physical limitations are lesser as well to have a mixed sport as compared to like later in
[38:12.800 -> 38:18.000] the life. Probably you can also build your physique a bit more when you start that young. Yeah, yeah,
[38:18.000 -> 38:22.880] yeah. Right, exactly. So I think the change needs to come from there rather than from the top. I
[38:22.880 -> 38:28.240] mean, of course the top will help, but it needs to come from the bottom there rather than from the top. I mean of course the top will help but it needs to come from the bottom up rather than from the top to top.
[38:29.040 -> 38:34.960] Sometimes women can't because they are so busy with things like Emma Kimmeleine is a mom,
[38:34.960 -> 38:41.760] she has a daughter, she's still competing in like the highest thing of the W or things.
[38:42.000 -> 38:42.600] of the W and things.
[38:43.600 -> 38:44.360] So, but
[38:46.240 -> 38:46.880] yeah, what you're talking
[38:48.680 -> 38:49.880] and thank God we have Sebastian Vell and Lewis Hamilton
[38:50.760 -> 38:52.820] are really trying to improve in those
[38:52.840 -> 38:54.840] things. And I have so much also
[38:54.840 -> 38:57.160] respect for that because it's
[38:57.200 -> 38:59.240] so nice, you know, they see the women
[38:59.360 -> 39:00.800] and they try to help them.
[39:02.520 -> 39:03.520] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[39:04.160 -> 39:11.040] Moving on, I saw this meme where you know how you have three lungs,
[39:11.040 -> 39:17.040] one is a regular healthy lung, one is a black lung which is a smoker's lung and then there is
[39:17.040 -> 39:29.800] this third image of a completely orange lung which says spa visitor's lung. Now Now we have to ask you this, how bad is the
[39:29.800 -> 39:35.000] orange smoke? In reality you've been to Austria, you've been to a spa. How bad is the
[39:35.000 -> 39:39.720] orange smoke? Yeah I was in Zandvoort last year and obviously that was the worst one.
[39:39.720 -> 39:47.080] And like I was sitting like this, I couldn't breathe. I was in pain.
[39:47.080 -> 39:52.080] But you know what I said about the children and babies
[39:52.340 -> 39:54.680] who also were sitting there with their,
[39:55.720 -> 39:57.360] it's, you know, they needed to walk away
[39:57.360 -> 40:01.440] because the children were crying and screaming
[40:01.440 -> 40:03.120] because they don't know what's happening
[40:03.120 -> 40:05.200] and they only feel pain and dust in
[40:05.200 -> 40:12.720] their eyes and stuff and it's really dangerous for them. I think also with the checks they say
[40:12.720 -> 40:18.720] like yeah but we can still get those in but if I look at the checks when they check the bags
[40:18.720 -> 40:23.680] you know if they check my bag you're not allowed to take deodorant.
[40:25.520 -> 40:28.800] you're not allowed to take deodorant, you know, the spray. And I have it in my bag and they say, yeah, you're not allowed.
[40:28.800 -> 40:33.440] And they look in my bag and they see the deodorant and they say like, yeah, it's fine.
[40:33.440 -> 40:37.040] Like, you know, you're not allowed.
[40:37.040 -> 40:41.840] And don't let them in and, you know, check so good on those things because it's dangerous.
[40:41.840 -> 40:43.040] It's not good for your lungs.
[40:43.040 -> 40:49.000] And as I said, and also the main problem that's, I think that's the
[40:49.760 -> 40:53.440] problem for many people there is that they, they do it in a formation lab
[40:53.640 -> 40:57.480] and then they can see the start and the first three laps of the race.
[40:57.760 -> 41:01.920] And you're exactly, then you can see the things and then you're just
[41:01.920 -> 41:05.840] disappointed because the start is the most exciting thing ever.
[41:05.840 -> 41:11.360] And you miss it because of some fans who think it's nice to do this.
[41:11.360 -> 41:15.720] Yeah, this just needs to stop with those things.
[41:15.720 -> 41:21.480] Like it's a nice, not nice at all for the people who are sitting there.
[41:21.480 -> 41:25.560] Yeah, no, and even not just for the people attending the GP, but
[41:25.560 -> 41:29.200] I think it's even kind of dangerous for the drivers as well. And I think it was more evident
[41:29.200 -> 41:34.320] in the Austrian GP, where I remember when the formation lap was going on, I was like
[41:34.320 -> 41:40.280] looking into I think Charles's on board. And at one point where you know, like the track
[41:40.280 -> 41:45.520] goes around the bull, right? Like there's the grandstand there. And there was so much snow on the track.
[41:45.560 -> 41:50.120] Like it was not visible as to what's ahead. So even in the terms of safety,
[41:50.160 -> 41:51.200] I don't think it's a good thing.
[41:51.800 -> 41:56.160] No, for no one, like the drivers, the people who are sitting there.
[41:56.440 -> 41:56.760] Yeah.
[41:56.760 -> 42:01.280] If the same thing with Max is on board on Zandvoort when he won the race.
[42:04.520 -> 42:10.240] It's the, it's the lovely fans who've already predicted at Formation Lab that Max is going to win, right?
[42:10.240 -> 42:14.560] That's not that difficult in 2022.
[42:14.560 -> 42:16.440] Exactly.
[42:16.440 -> 42:22.880] But speaking of Max and Charles is on board and the safety here,
[42:22.880 -> 42:25.560] it's a whole new debate and a whole new topic. Charles is on board and the safety here.
[42:31.040 -> 42:35.200] It's a whole new debate and a whole new topic, but like Max throwing off his visor yesterday, that gets stuck into Charles's
[42:35.680 -> 42:37.240] brake duct and air intake.
[42:37.240 -> 42:38.800] Air intake, brake duct.
[42:39.680 -> 42:42.520] Blocks that. Charles falls to...
[42:42.880 -> 42:43.880] Yeah.
[42:44.880 -> 42:46.280] Somebody on Reddit caught that. Charles falls too. Yeah. Somebody on Reddit caught that.
[42:47.960 -> 42:51.920] And then, and then you, could you say that? So the funnier bit is,
[42:51.920 -> 42:53.920] the funnier bit is like after the race,
[42:54.480 -> 42:57.320] after the race finished and all of it, like this, some,
[42:57.320 -> 42:58.720] some press interview or something,
[43:00.000 -> 43:04.960] Charles said that I had my air duct break index sort of like blocked in
[43:04.960 -> 43:05.760] some sense. And, and that sort of like blocked in some sense.
[43:05.760 -> 43:11.840] And that sort of made me do an earlier pit stop and I had to drop to P9 blah blah blah.
[43:11.840 -> 43:16.400] And then someone told this to Max. I'm pretty sure they knew it was Max's.
[43:16.400 -> 43:20.640] And then Max says, I hope just it wasn't mine when Charles was trying to do it.
[43:20.640 -> 43:28.440] By the way, there was another thing that happened because of the tear-off getting stuck in his
[43:28.440 -> 43:32.280] brake duct is that the five-second penalty that he got, right?
[43:32.280 -> 43:36.640] So he like, Ashal's claims that basically what happened is because of the tear-off getting
[43:36.640 -> 43:42.040] stuck, one of the sensors was burnt off on his car, which kind of helped him to maintain
[43:42.040 -> 43:44.160] the speed at the pit limit.
[43:44.160 -> 43:46.200] And that caused him to speed
[43:46.200 -> 43:48.600] in the pet lane, which yeah.
[43:48.600 -> 43:49.600] One kilometer.
[43:49.600 -> 43:50.600] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[43:50.600 -> 43:51.600] He was 81 kmph.
[43:51.600 -> 43:52.600] One kilometer.
[43:52.600 -> 43:53.600] Oh my God, those speeds.
[43:53.600 -> 43:54.600] But that's interesting, right?
[43:54.600 -> 44:06.740] Like, I have this wonderful, another meme that I found and it's all reddit.
[44:06.740 -> 44:09.200] So I mean folks listening, don't be surprised.
[44:09.840 -> 44:18.400] There's a parallel split between the Red Bull and the Ferrari and the Red Bull says faster on straights and the Ferrari says faster in the pits.
[44:18.400 -> 44:20.400] True. That's true.
[44:20.400 -> 44:22.400] That's hard, but that's true.
[44:22.400 -> 44:24.400] Yeah, it's true.
[44:24.400 -> 44:25.880] I like that. That's true. That's hard, but that's true. Yeah, it's true.
[44:29.480 -> 44:30.120] I like that.
[44:31.560 -> 44:35.800] God, but okay, let me take this poll and I'm going to start off with you, Deona.
[44:36.600 -> 44:39.080] Who messed up, the drivers or Ferrari?
[44:39.080 -> 44:40.120] Yesterday, who messed up?
[44:41.640 -> 44:44.360] No one.
[44:46.360 -> 44:50.460] Okay, I'll take that. Yeah, well, Charles was still, you know, trying his best.
[44:50.460 -> 44:52.440] And Carlos was on the podium.
[44:52.440 -> 44:55.480] So, I don't know where people say like...
[44:55.480 -> 44:58.120] I was trying to get some gossip out of you.
[44:58.120 -> 44:59.960] But you took the smarter route.
[44:59.960 -> 45:00.720] Okay.
[45:00.720 -> 45:04.120] I mean, you know, I'm also a Ruby fan.
[45:04.120 -> 45:07.080] I'm not a Charles fan. I'm not a Carlos fan. I have respect for them
[45:07.960 -> 45:14.960] But I don't care where they end up. Yeah, but didn't messed up yesterday. So I see why
[45:15.720 -> 45:19.000] People are saying like they messed up with Charles. He's
[45:20.120 -> 45:25.480] Bit stops like a few races ago. I was like no this is clown shit but this is
[45:25.480 -> 45:33.240] you know this race was not like a real mistake or something you know it's yeah
[45:33.240 -> 45:38.160] no I tend to agree I agree that I wouldn't say it was anybody's fault as
[45:38.160 -> 45:45.000] such it was just bad luck and yeah that's that's about it, I guess. Yeah, true.
[45:45.000 -> 45:47.000] I guess that's true.
[45:47.000 -> 45:49.000] Ferrari, I mean, the strategy was...
[45:49.000 -> 45:57.000] Because I think a lot of people questioned their last pitch talk and questioned whether that was really necessary.
[45:57.000 -> 46:00.000] And I think we were having a discussion about this.
[46:00.000 -> 46:05.960] And like I was of the opinion earlier that it was probably kind of unnecessary.
[46:06.720 -> 46:11.040] But at the same time, I do kind of agree with the arguments that Akash put up.
[46:11.200 -> 46:14.000] Akash, go ahead. Let our audience know.
[46:14.480 -> 46:23.360] Yeah, my take on the fact of the matter was that it isn't about taking the fastest lap point at this point.
[46:23.400 -> 46:30.760] I mean, I think Charles knows that even if he wins all the races, Max is not going to finish at max less than P3.
[46:30.760 -> 46:41.440] So that's fine. But at this point, it's more about taking that one point away from Red Bull and trying to still fight for a WCC at this point.
[46:41.440 -> 46:49.960] And every point mattered, right? So, I mean, science is doing good. So, there is a good battle with science and Charles as a team versus Perez and Max.
[46:49.960 -> 46:54.720] I think, like, they are now probably gunning for a WCC, which is still gonna look tough.
[46:54.720 -> 47:08.080] But for me, it was not about a one point against Max, but a one point against Red Bull, which I think was fair. And they had Alonso closed off. Yeah, so it's tough,
[47:08.080 -> 47:14.720] but it's bad, but it is what it is. Yeah, yeah. And he was so unlucky in France also,
[47:14.720 -> 47:19.120] you know, with the crash he had. That was the point where he was like, okay, no, this is not.
[47:20.800 -> 47:25.560] Yeah, it was really the point that he thought he was like, I lost it. I really lost it.
[47:27.600 -> 47:31.840] And I think one, one good thing Ferrari did by with that pit stop is that gave us
[47:31.840 -> 47:34.840] some excitement because the race was getting really boring towards the end.
[47:35.800 -> 47:36.560] Oh God, man.
[47:37.560 -> 47:38.060] Yeah.
[47:39.360 -> 47:48.440] Anywho, anywho, I don't think we can end this without a special topic that we did talk about at the beginning.
[47:49.160 -> 47:56.360] And the story starts off with a usual crash, usual spin-off from our very famous Gotifi.
[47:57.480 -> 48:00.960] At that point, no one was surprised, no one cared.
[48:01.800 -> 48:05.600] Oh, a Williams' spinoff. Is it Albon? No. Okay, sure.
[48:05.600 -> 48:06.200] It happens.
[48:06.200 -> 48:08.600] He takes off.
[48:08.600 -> 48:10.200] He takes off.
[48:10.200 -> 48:11.000] Botas.
[48:11.000 -> 48:15.200] Anywho, where I want to get with all of this is,
[48:15.200 -> 48:22.400] Deona Iher and Botas have a very special relationship as a fan and a
[48:22.400 -> 48:23.800] amazing driver.
[48:23.800 -> 48:28.000] And I want to kick it off to Diona.
[48:28.000 -> 48:32.000] First of all, how do you know Botas?
[48:32.000 -> 48:36.000] I already know him for like 4 years.
[48:36.000 -> 48:40.000] We were in a group chat with a few other Botas fans.
[48:40.000 -> 48:44.000] We were like, let's put Botas in this.
[48:44.000 -> 48:45.440] He was not that big on Instagram. and we were like oh let's put both in this you know maybe he responds we're like no he will not
[48:45.440 -> 48:51.920] you know um he was not that big on instagram so it's gonna be happening and then uh one time
[48:51.920 -> 48:58.560] i woke up and i was like is this is this real did we get a message from both us and then we got a
[48:58.560 -> 49:06.960] message from him and we didn't believe that it was really him, you know, maybe a manager or whatever. And then he said like, send proof, send a picture.
[49:07.280 -> 49:10.040] And then he said, wait, I have the picture.
[49:10.040 -> 49:11.840] I need to show it to you guys.
[49:11.840 -> 49:12.440] Wow.
[49:12.520 -> 49:13.000] All right.
[49:13.200 -> 49:13.700] Awesome.
[49:17.120 -> 49:22.880] Because he sent us a picture, uh, where he was, um, in the car.
[49:23.120 -> 49:24.120] I printed it.
[49:24.280 -> 49:26.000] Ah, interesting.
[49:26.000 -> 49:30.000] Yeah, and he sent this picture.
[49:30.000 -> 49:32.000] Wow, what a sport.
[49:32.000 -> 49:34.000] And we were like, okay, that's him.
[49:34.000 -> 49:38.000] And yeah, it was insane.
[49:38.000 -> 49:40.000] And then we knew it was him.
[49:40.000 -> 49:42.000] So that was I think in 2018.
[49:42.000 -> 49:44.000] That was a long time ago.
[49:44.000 -> 49:46.600] He was such long time ago.
[49:46.600 -> 49:50.680] He was such a nice guy, you know, we talked in a group chat and he, you know, someone
[49:50.680 -> 49:53.560] was like, yeah, I'm free, you know, for half an hour.
[49:53.560 -> 49:55.680] So just ask, you know, whatever you want.
[49:55.680 -> 50:00.760] And also when there were problems with he wanted to make a page for his dog, Fanny,
[50:00.760 -> 50:07.760] that he had with his ex-wife. But there was another page whose name was Alex.
[50:07.760 -> 50:13.720] And you know, he helped us to, you know, get the name removed so he could use it for his
[50:13.720 -> 50:16.880] dog and it was just like a thing.
[50:16.880 -> 50:27.400] And then at some point when he wasn't really talking anymore, It was in 2019 when he got with his new girlfriend.
[50:28.080 -> 50:31.560] And then, you know, we started talking in private
[50:31.560 -> 50:34.040] just about sport and about, you know,
[50:34.040 -> 50:37.480] mental things in the sport and stuff.
[50:37.480 -> 50:40.320] It was interesting to hear all those things
[50:40.320 -> 50:43.440] and also about the boss, Total Wolf,
[50:43.440 -> 50:46.880] because we had a lot of things about that
[50:46.880 -> 50:49.280] you know, when I was watching a race and then
[50:49.280 -> 50:51.200] you heard like, Walter Iels James
[50:51.200 -> 50:53.200] and I was like, no, no, no, no, no
[50:53.200 -> 50:55.200] this is not going to work again
[50:55.200 -> 51:00.720] and after qualifying when he needed to give Hamilton a go or stuff
[51:00.720 -> 51:04.480] you know, I sent him a message with like
[51:04.480 -> 51:08.640] okay, they really played you again.
[51:08.640 -> 51:16.640] And he was like, yeah, okay, I have to admit, I was like, I also really like not to get mad on him,
[51:16.640 -> 51:21.920] but just say no, just say no, because you always say that you want to
[51:27.560 -> 51:29.840] And you always say that you want to win the championship and stuff, but then really try to win the championship.
[51:29.840 -> 51:33.200] And that's how we, you know, that's the things we talked about.
[51:33.200 -> 51:39.280] And you know, you know, when we were at the GP, we tried to meet there and stuff.
[51:39.280 -> 51:52.900] And then, yeah, what else to talk to you in private at the end. It was a little wrong because after Zandvoort, when we met someone in his
[51:53.260 -> 52:03.420] closet, got mad and not going to say names, but I think, and you know, just,
[52:03.620 -> 52:11.360] you know, I'm just his fan and I really want to talk about this because it's something that happens often with that person.
[52:11.360 -> 52:20.880] We're fans, I'm a fan, I am not trying to do anything wrong or I'm not trying to steal things.
[52:20.880 -> 52:23.680] And yeah, that's just how it is.
[52:23.680 -> 52:26.400] And you know, she also blocked me on Instagram and on
[52:26.400 -> 52:33.680] Facebook and I just really want to say this because it happens often with fans I get many
[52:34.240 -> 52:40.000] many messages from people who met Fawlty and say oh his girlfriend makes me feel uncomfortable
[52:40.560 -> 52:48.480] as she got mad and so you know I just wants to say this in this podcast also, that's, um, we're fans.
[52:48.560 -> 52:51.920] I'm a fan and we want to keep it like that.
[52:52.840 -> 52:56.520] That's just how it went, but I'm still supporting him. He's still my number one.
[52:56.560 -> 53:00.080] And, um, that's awesome. It's the special bonds
[53:00.960 -> 53:07.680] for folks who've stayed with us for the special topic, you, you are our true fans.
[53:07.680 -> 53:15.760] Go follow Deanna on her Instagram. That's dyanne.f1.
[53:15.760 -> 53:33.000] Send her a message, you know, and tell her to tell BOTAS to come to F1 Fan Fiction and give us an episode. So yeah, yeah, if you stayed around until this point and this minute into the episode, you guys, you guys need to do this for us.
[53:33.000 -> 53:37.000] And even we'll know how many do stick around to the end.
[53:37.000 -> 53:45.000] But yeah, yeah, that's a that's a special request from F1 fanfiction community.
[53:45.000 -> 53:50.000] If anyone can make this happen, it's Diona.
[53:50.000 -> 53:56.000] We want hashtag Botas on F1 fanfiction.
[53:56.000 -> 54:00.000] But before you send her that message, go follow her.
[54:00.000 -> 54:04.000] And follow this podcast because nice guys, nice podcasts.
[54:04.000 -> 54:06.000] They deserve the followers.. They deserve the followers.
[54:06.000 -> 54:07.560] They really deserve the followers.
[54:09.200 -> 54:10.800] Kind words. Thank you.
[54:10.800 -> 54:16.320] With that support, everyone who's in the cockpit racing,
[54:16.880 -> 54:19.720] irrespective of the gender, stay positive.
[54:20.800 -> 54:22.280] It's a sport at the end.
[54:22.280 -> 54:25.280] Everyone's doing their bit. You can do yours as a fan.
[54:25.280 -> 54:29.600] This was... There were some revelating stories here.
[54:29.600 -> 54:36.160] Talk about it so that more people talk about it. The change will come faster as Saurang pointed out.
[54:36.160 -> 54:45.000] So, talk about it. Share these stories with your friends so that it spreads and we know what's being happening in the sport.
[54:45.000 -> 54:51.700] We will come next weekend from something which will be a haze of orange smoke.
[54:51.700 -> 54:55.200] And if we can see the race on the TV through the cameras.
[54:55.200 -> 55:02.000] Deona is going to be in the grandstand or somewhere in the stands watching the race herself.
[55:02.000 -> 55:06.320] Yeah, any parting thoughts before I close this?
[55:06.320 -> 55:11.640] What I want to say is just, you know, we're one community, please just, you know,
[55:11.640 -> 55:17.440] you can dislike a driver, that's 100% fine, but you know, don't ever ever ever
[55:17.440 -> 55:21.680] hate someone else for supporting, respect everyone, that's what I want to say.
[55:21.680 -> 55:30.040] And on that bombshell, I'm copying this line. And on that bombshell I'm copying this line but on that bombshell these are your hosts all three hosts signing.
[55:30.040 -> 55:37.280] Bye.