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The 2022 Azerbaijan GP which is held at the capital city of baku is another street track in the F1 Calendar. This track has mostly generated some great races, but we got one of the most boring snooze fests in 2022. Max and Perez got a 1-2 for Red Bull while Ferrari was probably bathing in their own tears after a double DNF.
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# Formula 1 Azerbaijan Grand Prix 2022 Review: Baku Snooze Fest and Ferrari's Troubles
## Introduction
* The 2022 Azerbaijan Grand Prix in Baku, Azerbaijan, was another street track race on the F1 calendar.
* The race was a snooze fest, with Red Bull's Max Verstappen and Sergio Perez securing a 1-2 finish, while Ferrari suffered a double DNF (Did Not Finish).
## Key Points and Discussion
### Ferrari's Struggles
* Ferrari had a disappointing race, with both Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz Jr. retiring due to engine failures.
* This marked Ferrari's second double DNF of the season, raising concerns about the reliability of their power units.
* The team's struggles have allowed Red Bull to extend their lead in both the Drivers' and Constructors' Championships.
### Ben Sulayem's Controversial Comments
* FIA President Mohammed ben Sulayem made controversial remarks suggesting that drivers should not voice their opinions on social and political issues.
* This sparked a backlash from drivers and fans, who argued that they have a right to express their views.
* Several drivers, including Lewis Hamilton and Sebastian Vettel, wore rainbow colors or made statements in support of LGBTQ+ rights in response to Sulayem's comments.
### Hamilton's Struggles
* Lewis Hamilton had a difficult race, finishing in 10th place after struggling with porpoising issues in his Mercedes.
* The seven-time world champion has been vocal about the physical toll of porpoising, which causes the car to bounce violently at high speeds.
* Mercedes has been working to address the issue, but it remains a significant challenge for the team.
### McLaren's Internal Issues
* McLaren had a disappointing race, with Lando Norris and Daniel Ricciardo finishing in 9th and 10th place, respectively.
* The team appeared to issue conflicting instructions to their drivers regarding team orders, causing confusion and frustration.
* There have been rumors of tension between Norris and Ricciardo, and the team's performance has suffered as a result.
### Vettel's S🅱️inalla Training Pays Off
* Sebastian Vettel had a strong race, finishing in 6th place for Aston Martin.
* The four-time world champion made a mistake during qualifying, spinning his car and earning a grid penalty.
* However, he drove a determined race, making up several positions and scoring valuable points for his team.
### All-Canadian Bumper Car Team
* The Canadian drivers, Lance Stroll, Nicholas Latifi, and Alex Albon, had a chaotic race, with several incidents and collisions.
* Stroll and Latifi collided on the opening lap, while Albon was involved in a separate incident with Fernando Alonso.
* The three drivers finished in the bottom three positions, with Stroll retiring from the race.
### Zak Brown, the Michael Scott of F1
* McLaren CEO Zak Brown has been compared to Michael Scott, the fictional character from the American sitcom "The Office."
* Brown is known for his enthusiastic and sometimes awkward demeanor, which has made him a popular figure among F1 fans.
* His antics and comments often provide lighthearted moments during race weekends.
## Conclusion
* The 2022 Azerbaijan Grand Prix was a disappointing race, with few highlights and several controversies.
* Ferrari's double DNF and Ben Sulayem's comments dominated the headlines, while Mercedes and McLaren continued to struggle.
* However, there were some bright spots, such as Vettel's strong performance and the entertaining antics of the Canadian drivers. ## Episode Summary:
### Azerbaijan Grand Prix: A Snooze Fest and Ferrari's Double DNF
**Baku Race Overview:**
- The 2022 Azerbaijan Grand Prix in Baku, a street circuit known for exciting races, turned out to be a dull event.
- Max Verstappen and Sergio Perez secured a 1-2 finish for Red Bull, while Ferrari suffered a double DNF (Did Not Finish).
### Ferrari's Struggles:
- Ferrari faced another disappointing weekend, with both Carlos Sainz and Charles Leclerc retiring from the race due to mechanical issues.
- This double DNF further adds to Ferrari's woes, as they continue to struggle with reliability and strategic errors.
### Ben Sulayem's Controversial Decisions:
- FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem's recent actions, including the introduction of stricter jewelry and underwear regulations, have drawn criticism from drivers and fans.
- His decisions have been perceived as overly controlling and unnecessary, leading to discussions about his leadership style.
### Hamilton's Struggles and Mercedes' Difficulties:
- Lewis Hamilton, a seven-time world champion, endured a challenging race, finishing seventh.
- Mercedes' struggles continued, with the team still unable to find a solution to their porpoising issues.
### Black and Orange Flag Usage:
- The FIA introduced the black and orange flag during the race, signaling to Pierre Gasly that his car had sustained damage and needed to be inspected.
- Gasly eventually retired from the race, highlighting the importance of enforcing safety regulations.
### McLaren's Internal Issues:
- McLaren is reportedly experiencing internal problems, with rumors of tension between team members and a lack of clear leadership.
- The team's poor performance in recent races has added to the speculation about instability within the team.
### Vettel's Impressive Drive and Aston Martin's Woes:
- Sebastian Vettel showcased his skills with a strong performance, finishing in the points despite Aston Martin's ongoing issues.
- Lance Stroll, Vettel's teammate, had a difficult race, crashing twice and drawing criticism for his lack of consistency.
### Canadian Drivers' Bumper Cars:
- The Canadian drivers, Nicholas Latifi, Lance Stroll, and Kevin Magnussen, were involved in several incidents during the race, leading to jokes about them forming their own bumper car team.
### Zak Brown's Leadership Style:
- Zak Brown, McLaren's CEO, has been compared to Michael Scott, a character from the TV show The Office, due to his enthusiastic and sometimes unconventional approach to leadership.
### Overall Takeaway:
- The Azerbaijan Grand Prix was a forgettable race, with Ferrari's double DNF overshadowing any excitement.
- The episode highlights the ongoing challenges faced by various teams, including Ferrari, Mercedes, and McLaren, as they navigate the 2022 Formula One season.
[00:00.000 -> 00:09.800] And while everyone else is sort of like holding their backs for the back pain, Vettel is holding his shoulder for carrying all the weight for Aspen Martin on his shoulders.
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[00:46.600 -> 00:50.600] And let's get into Baku, Azerbaijan, Agra, OPI.
[00:51.400 -> 00:52.040] I want to say...
[00:52.040 -> 00:53.320] Well done...
[00:53.320 -> 00:54.120] No, it's okay.
[00:54.120 -> 00:55.320] I want to say it's a dry one.
[00:55.320 -> 00:56.720] I know that's where you were going.
[00:56.720 -> 00:57.760] I know that's where you were going.
[00:59.800 -> 01:00.720] Yeah, man.
[01:00.720 -> 01:04.200] I was thinking of saying, well done, Baku, but then I was like, no,
[01:04.320 -> 01:05.520] it doesn't apply this year. It does not, man. I was, I was, I was thinking of saying well done Baku, but then I was like, no, it doesn't apply this year.
[01:07.160 -> 01:11.240] It does not man. Oh dude. I was, I was bored.
[01:11.920 -> 01:14.400] There were things happening here and there, to be honest,
[01:14.400 -> 01:18.000] like there were overtakes, there were things, don't get me wrong, but
[01:19.520 -> 01:20.360] I was bored.
[01:21.160 -> 01:23.840] Yeah, man. Honestly, like I think till now,
[01:24.080 -> 01:28.000] ever since Baku came into the calendar, I think it was 2017
[01:28.000 -> 01:30.880] or 2016, something like that.
[01:30.880 -> 01:36.600] And every year after year, Baku has delivered a good race.
[01:36.600 -> 01:37.600] Something crazy happens.
[01:37.600 -> 01:42.840] I mean, something crazy did happen today, but that's kind of expected at this point,
[01:42.840 -> 01:46.560] I guess. But this was I guess a kind of a
[01:46.560 -> 01:51.220] boring race in the sense that there wasn't much going on like the front
[01:51.220 -> 01:55.840] runners were kind of you know cemented we knew what the standings are going to
[01:55.840 -> 02:01.160] be and yeah there was some action going on in the midfield but not enough to
[02:01.160 -> 02:05.000] keep you awake I guess. No, you're right.
[02:05.000 -> 02:08.000] Because I think like 3 years back,
[02:08.000 -> 02:12.000] it was the Botas troll, finished line overtake.
[02:12.000 -> 02:14.000] We didn't have one year because of COVID.
[02:14.000 -> 02:17.000] Last year, the tires were blowing up.
[02:17.000 -> 02:20.000] I think the expectations at this point are so high
[02:20.000 -> 02:23.000] that we want the car to just blow up.
[02:23.000 -> 02:26.600] Like a Michael Bay situation. Obviously, no one dying, no one getting injured.
[02:26.600 -> 02:30.920] But like a Michael Bay situation is where the expectations are, I guess, at this point.
[02:30.920 -> 02:31.680] Yeah, man.
[02:31.680 -> 02:36.080] But let's address the whole clowning issue, right?
[02:36.080 -> 02:42.080] Like, at a point, we knew probably Leclerc and Ferrari could have had this in their bag.
[02:42.080 -> 02:48.160] But this whole Ferrari versus Red Bull situation, man, like, walk us through, walk us through your thoughts Aarav.
[02:48.160 -> 02:52.760] Yeah man, like I was thinking about this like Ferrari, I mean of course we have
[02:52.760 -> 02:55.240] talked about this multiple times, so I don't want to repeat it.
[02:55.240 -> 03:00.440] Folks, if you've heard this way over like over the internet, you know
[03:00.440 -> 03:05.880] skip a few seconds because yeah we, we were, we are going to like assemble our thoughts on the whole Ferrari Red Bull
[03:05.880 -> 03:08.040] situation. So yeah, go on.
[03:09.960 -> 03:14.800] I mean, Ferrari, it feels to me like they always half-ass the job somehow.
[03:14.800 -> 03:18.920] Like it seems like they always drop the ball when it is most important.
[03:19.080 -> 03:23.280] Like, of course, like you are going to have bad days. I don't,
[03:23.600 -> 03:28.120] like for example, today I wouldn't say they did something wrong. It was just their luck. Right.
[03:28.680 -> 03:33.440] But it often feels like they, they don't plan ahead. I don't know.
[03:33.440 -> 03:34.400] It feels like.
[03:34.960 -> 03:38.720] Or are they? Let me, let me interrupt. Are they? They don't have bad days.
[03:38.720 -> 03:42.160] They have bad decades. Is that what it feels like?
[03:42.160 -> 03:44.160] is what it feels like.
[03:45.360 -> 03:46.240] Ah, that makes sense.
[03:47.040 -> 03:47.440] Sorry, go on.
[03:48.480 -> 03:53.920] Yeah, no, but that's right. Like it's, it's like, ever since I can remember, at least in the modern, uh, F1
[03:53.920 -> 03:59.960] history, when Vettel was there, when Alonso was there, when, yeah, now Charles, you
[03:59.960 -> 04:05.000] know, every single time they bring a good car and then they just stop.
[04:05.760 -> 04:09.200] I think they also lose out in the development race as well a lot of times.
[04:09.200 -> 04:11.400] And that's what it seems about this happening this year as well.
[04:11.960 -> 04:13.320] Kind of, uh,
[04:13.360 -> 04:18.200] because it's clear now that the Red Bull is probably at least at par with
[04:18.200 -> 04:20.760] Ferrari, because I don't think, uh,
[04:20.800 -> 04:23.280] Ferrari has that engine advantage anymore,
[04:23.280 -> 04:25.000] which we saw in the first two races.
[04:25.000 -> 04:32.600] And somehow, like Red Bull always ends up at the top, like one way or another.
[04:32.600 -> 04:43.400] There is an interesting stat, at least for this season, which is Max has won more from Charles's pole position than Charles has won himself.
[04:43.400 -> 04:45.200] I mean, we are seven races or somewhat whatever in, then Charles has won himself.
[04:48.640 -> 04:50.640] I mean, we're seven races or somewhat, whatever, but that's just hilarious.
[04:54.480 -> 04:57.680] But no, man, I was going through some of these straight line speeds, right? Like, I don't have Ferraris, but I'm assuming it's going to be in the same ballpark.
[04:58.040 -> 05:07.600] But during the free practice three or slash Q1 is when these guys were talking about it, Crofty, on the commentator box.
[05:07.600 -> 05:19.000] Mercedes, they showed, was going around like 320-ish. Alfa Tauri, a 330. The Red Bulls were an insane 338 is what they clocked on those grades.
[05:19.000 -> 05:28.120] So, I'd love to see what Ferrari did. I'm probably sure the data is out there. Folks comment in the comment down below to let us know what it was.
[05:28.440 -> 05:32.080] But it's insane that even between Alfa Tauri and Red Bull,
[05:32.080 -> 05:36.480] like that 8 kmph Delta is, I guess, like just too much.
[05:37.360 -> 05:40.960] Yeah. I mean, I don't know, man. It's very weird to me.
[05:40.960 -> 05:45.840] Like it feels through free practice and quali and everything it looks
[05:45.840 -> 05:52.560] like they have a very fast car like the qualification clearly shows that lap after lap like sorry race
[05:52.560 -> 05:56.880] after race like leclerc has been getting the pole position but what's the use if you can't finish
[05:56.880 -> 06:04.320] the race right like yeah yeah you gotta finish the race right like i don't understand man and like
[06:04.320 -> 06:06.240] i'm irritated at fer at Ferrari at this point
[06:06.240 -> 06:11.520] because they're robbing us of a good championship. Like, it seems like it's just slipping away from
[06:11.520 -> 06:17.600] their hands. Ferrari is, Red Bull is just going to swoop in and take it away. That's what it feels
[06:17.600 -> 06:26.160] to me. Like, man, yeah. True, true, true. And even, even the commentators yesterday were like, you know,
[06:26.480 -> 06:29.320] hey, this is it's Leclerc's race to lose.
[06:29.320 -> 06:32.240] And this is like even when the mechanics are on their track.
[06:32.240 -> 06:34.520] And it's like, it's Leclerc's race to lose.
[06:34.520 -> 06:37.360] A pole position does not guarantee a win.
[06:37.360 -> 06:38.920] And I'm like, sure, that's true.
[06:38.920 -> 06:42.160] But you're already adding the commentator scores at this point.
[06:42.520 -> 06:46.400] And obviously, Ferrari is going to double down on it because it's their team and they want to do it.
[06:48.280 -> 06:49.640] But it's crazy. It's crazy.
[06:50.480 -> 06:56.440] Red Bull definitely hands down taking super advantage of the whole situation.
[06:56.440 -> 06:57.520] So kudos to them.
[06:57.800 -> 07:05.920] I want to ask this and this is something very interesting that I noticed was was they left their pit wall and were gone.
[07:06.960 -> 07:12.480] There was a shot where they were gone. It's like something happened, shuttered down.
[07:13.120 -> 07:15.840] I mean, half of them maybe flew to Canada already.
[07:17.920 -> 07:22.800] It is ridiculous. I saw some photos on Formula Dank on Reddit.
[07:22.800 -> 07:26.120] At first, I thought that was just a joke, you know, because of course it's
[07:26.120 -> 07:31.320] Formula Dank, but then I like started looking on Twitter and stuff and it
[07:31.480 -> 07:34.080] actually happened when lap 46 they left.
[07:35.680 -> 07:36.320] Crazy.
[07:38.040 -> 07:38.720] Oh man.
[07:38.720 -> 07:39.120] Yeah.
[07:39.160 -> 07:44.920] But I think, uh, I guess they're deciding how to fuck up the next race.
[07:45.960 -> 07:46.960] Probably. Pre-race debrief and post-race.
[07:46.960 -> 07:51.960] Sorry, pre-race discussion and post-race debrief.
[07:51.960 -> 07:56.880] How do we, how do we innovate these folks the next one?
[07:56.880 -> 08:13.260] You know, I have this conspiracy theory that Ferrari runs on Tifosi tears. See they collected so many tears through the last
[08:13.260 -> 08:17.380] few years that they were able to perform so well in the first few races and they
[08:17.380 -> 08:21.900] probably ran out of it now so now they're repeating. This makes full-on
[08:21.900 -> 08:27.000] sense I agree with this you know how? So right now the tears are being collected.
[08:27.240 -> 08:30.040] So FB1, 2, 3 and qualifying, they do brilliant,
[08:30.120 -> 08:34.320] but then they're so happy that there are no tears left to pump that bar during
[08:34.320 -> 08:37.280] race. That makes sense.
[08:39.200 -> 08:43.640] I think they should turn it around a bit, like fuck up in FB1, FB2, FB3.
[08:46.640 -> 08:56.320] around a bit like fuck up in F1, F2, F3. Ferrari has solved that issue for years. Come on. That's it. So easy man. Hire us. Contact us as F1fanfiction.com.
[08:57.960 -> 09:02.440] But okay you know talking about it a bit more seriously, there's definitely
[09:02.440 -> 09:08.640] something going on with the Ferrari engines. I don't know what but clearly there is some theme here.
[09:08.640 -> 09:11.360] Is heat got anything to do with it?
[09:11.360 -> 09:17.440] It seems like in Spain they had the same issue and Spain was incredibly hot.
[09:17.440 -> 09:21.480] Same thing with Baku, the commentators were also saying that the
[09:21.480 -> 09:24.480] track temperatures are rising a lot and it's quite hot outside.
[09:24.480 -> 09:28.800] And what happens is like the same thing happened in Spain as well.
[09:28.800 -> 09:32.400] Charles had the engine failure, Joe had the engine failure.
[09:32.920 -> 09:34.840] A similar pattern this time as well.
[09:34.920 -> 09:37.880] And it's like flies dropping from the sky.
[09:37.880 -> 09:40.440] It's almost at the same time as well.
[09:40.440 -> 09:43.240] And that's super suspicious.
[09:43.240 -> 09:44.560] It seems a bit weird.
[09:46.560 -> 09:52.480] That's an interesting theory. I think like going ahead for the next few races, we could sort of start monitoring Ferrari's behavior with,
[09:53.360 -> 10:01.280] you know, how all of this is going. And also I think their body is a bit different than other
[10:01.280 -> 10:06.800] cars as well. So I'm pretty sure that like the cooling of the engine is going to be a little
[10:06.800 -> 10:11.120] different on their car and probably it's affecting them in some form.
[10:11.200 -> 10:15.800] Yeah. Yeah. Almost a complete knockout yesterday. At least the Alfa Romeo's.
[10:16.080 -> 10:17.640] Yeah. The Alfa Romeo's hung up.
[10:18.040 -> 10:23.040] But it's sad to see like Ferrari sort of engine cars being messed up and
[10:23.880 -> 10:26.760] affecting races for like Xiao and K-Mag.
[10:26.760 -> 10:34.320] I mean, Xiao is, yeah, man, he's having a brilliant season. He's, he's for a rookie,
[10:34.320 -> 10:38.320] what a season. K-Mag has shown at least in the earlier part of the season that,
[10:38.320 -> 10:42.560] you know, he can take that has up somewhere into that contention zones.
[10:42.560 -> 10:47.120] But I think the engines are just messing up with their entire race at this point.
[10:48.400 -> 10:54.480] Yeah, man, I feel for Jao because honestly, I really like him the way he's performing.
[10:54.480 -> 10:57.680] And then even today, he was so heartbroken on the radio.
[10:57.680 -> 10:59.920] Like I kind of felt really bad for him.
[11:00.480 -> 11:02.160] And he was like, you know, we can't do this.
[11:02.160 -> 11:03.120] Like, what the hell?
[11:03.120 -> 11:04.560] Like, this is so bad.
[11:05.480 -> 11:11.000] What's the use of, you know, we can't do this. Like, what the hell? Like, this is so bad. What's the use of, you know, giving and everything when you just don't have a car.
[11:11.000 -> 11:12.080] In a similar mindset.
[11:12.080 -> 11:12.560] Yeah, yeah.
[11:12.560 -> 11:12.880] It's fair.
[11:12.880 -> 11:13.200] Yeah.
[11:13.280 -> 11:15.080] And I mean, it plays with my mind too.
[11:15.080 -> 11:17.880] To be honest, the moment science retired, right?
[11:17.920 -> 11:20.280] I was like, oh man, this guy again.
[11:20.880 -> 11:25.000] And then they show the replay where you can actually see the gargling noise coming out of his car.
[11:25.000 -> 11:29.000] And I'm like, okay, this is not what it seems. And it was an engine issue.
[11:29.000 -> 11:35.000] So even if he would not have done what he did and like maybe skid or whatever, his race was done.
[11:35.000 -> 11:38.000] A few laps later, it was done. He was never going to finish that race.
[11:39.000 -> 11:43.000] Yeah, no. At first I blamed science, like directly jumped to that conclusion.
[11:43.800 -> 11:45.520] At first I blamed science, like directly jumped to that conclusion.
[11:48.200 -> 11:48.920] But then when I saw the replay, I was like, okay, no, it wasn't.
[11:51.760 -> 11:53.600] It was just Ferrari being Ferrari. So yeah.
[11:57.560 -> 11:57.600] Anywho, anywho, something hot I want to bring up, Sarang,
[12:01.960 -> 12:02.840] is something that's been coming on before the start of the weekend.
[12:06.500 -> 12:07.000] Ben Suliam, if I'm pronouncing that right,
[12:11.500 -> 12:13.840] was bringing in his expertise from his racing career
[12:17.840 -> 12:19.500] to talk about the fact that, you know, the sport...
[12:22.300 -> 12:23.300] Drivers should not, quote unquote, voice their opinion.
[12:30.120 -> 12:35.800] Your thoughts on the whole weekend and how it unraveled on his comment there. I don't know man that guy has gone cuckoo bananas like very honestly like okay I'm gonna read a part
[12:35.800 -> 12:48.480] of his quote and it like blows my mind that people think this way. So he says that, but do I go and pose my beliefs? No, the rules
[12:48.480 -> 12:54.040] are there even now. There are issues when it comes to, for example, jewelry. I didn't
[12:54.040 -> 12:59.680] write that. I mean, first of all, so he's alluding to like him being a Muslim and like
[12:59.680 -> 13:07.440] he doesn't impose his religious beliefs on others. And he's comparing that to Lando talking about mental health,
[13:08.800 -> 13:15.280] Vettel talking about gay rights and Hamilton talking about Black Lives Matter.
[13:15.280 -> 13:22.480] I don't understand how are those two things comparable at all. I mean he is not wrong
[13:22.480 -> 13:31.200] because I believe there is global warming, I believe there is global warming I believe there is you know climate change but I should not impose that on anyone.
[13:32.200 -> 13:40.800] For folks who didn't catch it that was sarcasm please don't lash out on us.
[13:40.800 -> 13:57.500] But it's ridiculous man it's I I don't know when he joined I kind of thought that it's ridiculous man. I don't know. When he joined, I kind of thought that it's great like FIA is bringing in some diversity and I thought that he might be, you know, like a fresh breath of change within FIA.
[13:57.500 -> 14:05.640] But seems like same, same shit in different package, very honestly. By the way, just for context for folks who don't know who we are talking about,
[14:05.680 -> 14:10.280] Mohammed bin Sulaym, I'm sorry if I'm not pronouncing it correctly,
[14:10.280 -> 14:14.960] but he is the president of FIA, a current president of FIA,
[14:15.920 -> 14:18.000] and a former rally driver himself.
[14:18.560 -> 14:22.320] So just some context there on who he is and why his statement matters.
[14:23.320 -> 14:26.640] Yeah. And it definitely matters because especially I
[14:27.280 -> 14:33.280] I mean I admire all of these drivers who have come out and stood for what they believe in
[14:34.160 -> 14:42.720] because it helps man like genuinely it does help like representation matters and only when you see
[14:42.720 -> 14:47.680] the top people talking about the issues, I think it like helps you
[14:47.680 -> 14:49.840] I guess and it's important.
[14:49.840 -> 14:54.880] I love the fact that as soon as he said that I mean the next day Vettel came back on a
[14:54.880 -> 15:03.040] rainbow bike and Hamilton was like you should talk more about it.
[15:03.040 -> 15:07.260] I have no opinions about them as drivers let's say for a fact but yeah
[15:07.260 -> 15:12.320] they are doing their best as as they can for you know sticking up to this guy.
[15:12.320 -> 15:17.520] Yeah man I was though I mean I love Vettel's bike but I was really hoping
[15:17.520 -> 15:30.000] that he would just wear a you know rainbow flag all over that would have been a even more fuck you to him. It's weird man, it's
[15:30.000 -> 15:37.040] weird where F1 is going I think overall with all the money that's coming into the sport
[15:37.040 -> 15:42.320] it's a bit concerning at points but still I'm glad that regardless of what like the
[15:42.320 -> 15:45.840] organization stands for the drivers are still standing for themselves
[15:45.840 -> 15:52.720] and continuing to do that. And I hope that these changes in F1 don't change that.
[15:52.720 -> 15:59.200] Especially the veterans whose voice matters more than others. Like the same thing coming from UK,
[15:59.200 -> 16:07.100] sure, but like Hamilton, Sir Hamilton. But speaking of Hamilton, Sir Hamilton, Sir Hamilton. Exactly. Yeah. But speaking of Hamilton, Sir Hamilton,
[16:07.200 -> 16:11.820] I think the age is catching up on him or is it the car actually having issues?
[16:12.060 -> 16:12.900] Oh man.
[16:14.780 -> 16:19.460] Walking back for, for folks who are Indian and who,
[16:19.580 -> 16:20.580] who know this ad,
[16:20.820 -> 16:26.240] the first thing that came in my mind was the move lotion ad which sort
[16:26.240 -> 16:30.480] of relieves you from back pain and I'm thinking how do we make this into a meme
[16:30.480 -> 16:39.640] move aase aaha tak sort of thing. I can see that. But man it's crazy the
[16:39.640 -> 16:46.400] foreclosing on some of these cars it's crazy. Yeah man, and it's, I mean there's a lot of
[16:46.400 -> 16:50.380] controversy about this as well. I guess like of course when the season started
[16:50.380 -> 16:54.380] we could see that most of the cars were bouncing around and like most of the
[16:54.380 -> 17:01.820] people were suffering from this but it seems like particularly Mercedes in
[17:01.820 -> 17:07.500] general is still suffering from it a lot. Yeah. And they probably seem to be the only team who are affected so much.
[17:07.500 -> 17:11.500] I mean, of course, McLaren as well is a bit and so is Ferrari as well.
[17:11.500 -> 17:16.000] Because if you like see the video footages like Charles is generally just bouncing around here and there.
[17:16.000 -> 17:27.320] But the controversy lies that Toto has been badmouthing FIA in the press saying that FIA is causing this issue because
[17:27.320 -> 17:29.800] of the rule changes that FIA introduced.
[17:29.800 -> 17:34.960] Like the drivers are facing this pop-icing issue, which is also affecting their health
[17:34.960 -> 17:36.520] and everything.
[17:36.520 -> 17:42.360] But the real question remains, why are you not sacrificing performance in favor of driver
[17:42.360 -> 17:43.360] comfort?
[17:43.360 -> 17:45.000] Yeah, I know this is good.
[17:45.000 -> 17:53.000] And even Lando on that famous post-race ad hoc interview that he does at every race, he said,
[17:53.000 -> 17:58.000] they could just raise their car height if they want to, right, to solve this issue.
[17:58.000 -> 18:08.160] So I guess they want the cake and want to eat it too. That's what they're saying, right? So it's that. I mean,
[18:08.160 -> 18:11.520] they are for the third and fourth position that they got yesterday. Sure.
[18:11.880 -> 18:15.840] Because of certain situations too, but that's the price you have to pay.
[18:16.480 -> 18:19.640] And the fact that they are going, I don't want to sort of,
[18:21.440 -> 18:23.960] you know, bauxite Mercedes at this point,
[18:23.960 -> 18:29.160] but the fact that the whole discussion is going to regulations, I don't agree to it.
[18:29.600 -> 18:32.280] Like, it's a rule.
[18:32.320 -> 18:36.720] You are super engineers at this point for, you know, all the car tech that you bring.
[18:37.400 -> 18:38.760] Solve it. Right.
[18:38.960 -> 18:39.960] Exactly.
[18:40.000 -> 18:46.800] And to add to that, I feel like some teams have probably spent a good amount of their budget already to fix it.
[18:47.420 -> 18:55.360] And now going back and changing the regulations is sort of unfair to them because it's eaten up from their sort of fixed allocated budget.
[18:55.480 -> 18:56.720] Right. Sure.
[18:56.720 -> 19:03.760] 2023, if US super engineers still think this is an issue, next year we bring in the changes.
[19:03.800 -> 19:04.520] still think this is an issue. Next year we bring in the changes.
[19:06.720 -> 19:07.240] But this year is done for, I feel like that,
[19:10.680 -> 19:10.720] or give more money to the teams that will fix it because they've already spent.
[19:14.760 -> 19:15.200] Exactly. Yeah. No, I, I think this is just, you know,
[19:20.080 -> 19:21.480] like gaining an advantage somehow or another goes back to, you know, what we talked about Red Bull.
[19:21.920 -> 19:28.960] And most of these also kind of does the same thing that they want to win anyhow it doesn't matter and this is just part of it
[19:28.960 -> 19:33.040] basically just try to gain an advantage over other teams so that they don't have
[19:33.040 -> 19:38.440] to invest money in fixing their issues and just ask daddy for help. Even I
[19:38.440 -> 19:42.040] think Christian Horner said like if I were Mercedes I would have told my
[19:42.040 -> 19:45.000] drivers to cry out as loud as possible.
[19:45.820 -> 19:50.200] So, Okay. Okay. And let me point this out a bit and maybe I'm completely wrong and
[19:50.480 -> 19:51.320] it's not true,
[19:51.680 -> 19:56.680] but today it felt to me like what Hamilton was doing after getting out of the
[19:56.880 -> 20:00.800] car was kind of flavor of that. Maybe he was really in pain.
[20:00.840 -> 20:03.440] I'm not saying that he wasn't, but I don't know.
[20:03.440 -> 20:05.760] It felt a bit too intentional to me,
[20:06.120 -> 20:08.400] the way he got out of the car and everything.
[20:08.880 -> 20:10.800] And we have seen him do things like this before.
[20:10.800 -> 20:15.160] Like mind games is a big part of his, you know, whole thing.
[20:15.600 -> 20:19.600] The only place where I want to give him that advantage and benefit of doubt is
[20:20.360 -> 20:23.800] we've seen Ricardo also come out of the car in a similar fashion.
[20:24.160 -> 20:28.000] And during one of those trades, during the end of the race,
[20:28.320 -> 20:30.960] somewhere towards the end of the race, the commentators were like,
[20:31.560 -> 20:36.360] this is an effective of six G's that they face on the car.
[20:36.880 -> 20:39.600] And I'm like, that's bad for a 1.4 mile straight.
[20:39.640 -> 20:41.640] If that is accurate, then that's bad.
[20:41.720 -> 20:42.120] Right.
[20:42.480 -> 20:47.920] And what was worse was I've never heard the car sound like a diesel engine
[20:49.200 -> 20:54.720] sort of thing like when it's going on the road. It's bad. It's actually bouncing on the ground,
[20:54.720 -> 20:59.120] like quite literally bouncing on the ground and that's what the noise is from. It's very
[20:59.120 -> 21:09.600] interesting. I've never seen something like that before. Green and for multicolored basketball balls bouncing around the tracks or the thing yeah
[21:09.600 -> 21:10.600] that's funny.
[21:10.600 -> 21:15.680] All right man let's let's pivot from here.
[21:15.680 -> 21:21.600] Have I set it up accurately for you to take on to the serious ones.
[21:21.600 -> 21:26.800] Yeah exactly let's go from one serious topic to another that's memes. Very serious
[21:29.200 -> 21:31.540] Please don't joke around that's very serious
[21:33.640 -> 21:35.640] Okay, let me bring it up
[21:36.120 -> 21:38.120] All right, let's
[21:38.280 -> 21:40.120] Look at some
[21:40.120 -> 21:41.760] memes
[21:41.760 -> 21:43.480] if this works
[21:43.480 -> 21:48.000] there it goes Alright, let's take it up let's look at the
[21:48.000 -> 21:52.360] first one there it is
[22:07.520 -> 22:08.240] in a boxy car dude this is so accurate this is so accurate
[22:11.840 -> 22:14.400] man i just love watching this again i can watch instead of watching the baku race i could have just watched at this gif throughout
[22:14.400 -> 22:18.320] and anyways but uh let's go to the next one
[22:18.320 -> 22:29.000] uh this is basically just water leaking from a tank and Alphataur is engineer just slapping a tape on it.
[22:29.000 -> 22:31.000] The famous black tape guy.
[22:31.000 -> 22:39.000] Oh man that was a hilarious situation. I mean for a second I actually because I was watching on Hotstar and I could pause it.
[22:39.000 -> 22:45.800] I actually paused and like literally ruffled. I'm like, what was this?
[22:45.800 -> 22:47.040] What did I just watch?
[22:47.040 -> 22:49.040] Anyways, anyways, it was hilarious.
[22:49.040 -> 22:50.560] It was super hilarious.
[22:50.560 -> 22:52.640] And OK, for folks who are on audio,
[22:52.640 -> 22:56.040] we also post links of these memes in the show notes.
[22:56.040 -> 22:57.880] So check it out in the show notes.
[22:57.880 -> 22:59.400] Let's take a look at the next one.
[23:03.040 -> 23:09.520] It's a photo of three monkeys sitting with all three Ferrari engine cars like Ferrari,
[23:09.520 -> 23:16.040] Alfa Romeo and Haas and Haas and Alfa Romeo asking Ferrari where power.
[23:16.040 -> 23:19.040] I love this one.
[23:19.040 -> 23:23.120] Dude, I love the internet man.
[23:23.120 -> 23:30.000] Okay, what's next? Today's race was one of those races where the memes are better than the race.
[23:30.000 -> 23:31.000] I agree.
[23:31.000 -> 23:32.000] I gotta give it to you.
[23:32.000 -> 23:33.000] I agree.
[23:33.000 -> 23:37.000] Okay, let's take a look at the next one.
[23:37.000 -> 23:40.000] Oh, dude.
[23:40.000 -> 23:43.000] The famous crying ass.
[23:43.000 -> 23:44.000] It's basically a landfill.
[23:44.000 -> 23:45.000] Yeah, the crying. Dude, I love that filter. It's basically a landfill.
[23:45.000 -> 23:48.120] Dude, I love that filter.
[23:48.120 -> 23:54.640] It's been plastered all around the internet, but I love the heck out of it.
[23:54.640 -> 24:02.800] It's photos of basically Charles, signs, K-Mag and Jao with the crying face and a dumpster
[24:02.800 -> 24:04.840] with two Ferrari cars on it.
[24:04.840 -> 24:08.560] So there you have it.
[24:08.560 -> 24:12.840] Oh geez man. Alright I think I think this is the last one let's see if we have
[24:12.840 -> 24:17.400] another one. Oh no that's it. That's a good summary of the weekend man that was
[24:17.400 -> 24:23.520] exactly what happened yesterday but I wanna come to the famous
[24:23.520 -> 24:25.600] engineering section that we saw.
[24:25.600 -> 24:31.000] The super genius engineering of duct taping is the forever solution.
[24:33.000 -> 24:36.600] For the first time, I mean, I think this could have happened at least a dozen.
[24:36.600 -> 24:41.000] I mean, it doesn't come to my mind because I mean, what in the past 15 years,
[24:41.000 -> 24:44.200] I don't remember when this has happened that I've been seeing this sport.
[24:49.280 -> 24:50.320] A black and orange flag. was an interesting one right?
[24:53.920 -> 24:55.440] It was, it was very interesting. Like of course like first when we saw
[25:01.200 -> 25:08.040] Sunoda's DRS like half opening at first I think even the commentators thought that it broke off. Yeah. And that's what it felt like. But like when the DRS closed, it became evident that only half of the DRS is opening, which
[25:08.040 -> 25:09.960] is again kind of weird.
[25:09.960 -> 25:13.680] So it seems like probably that one of their actuators broke or something like that.
[25:13.680 -> 25:15.520] I don't know what exactly happened.
[25:15.520 -> 25:20.060] But FIA brought out the black and white, sorry, black and orange flag.
[25:20.060 -> 25:24.520] You know, again, see, I misspoke because I don't even remember when the last time I saw
[25:24.520 -> 25:29.380] this flag, honestly, but this black and orange flag seemed like a very
[25:29.380 -> 25:30.680] harsh penalty on Sonoda.
[25:30.680 -> 25:32.500] Like it was very weird.
[25:32.540 -> 25:36.860] And even the commentators were confused because it essentially was like a stop
[25:36.860 -> 25:37.700] and go penalty, right?
[25:37.700 -> 25:42.740] Like where he had to go in, he had to wait there for like 10 seconds and then go
[25:42.740 -> 25:43.280] out again.
[25:43.860 -> 25:47.760] And that too, by the way, the solution was duct tape.
[25:47.800 -> 25:51.120] Yeah. Like what the fuck, what did it achieve? I don't understand.
[25:51.800 -> 25:52.960] How was it any better?
[25:53.960 -> 25:57.360] It's just, and then the same thing, right? Like don't use DRS.
[25:58.280 -> 25:59.400] Yeah. Yeah.
[25:59.520 -> 26:02.840] So they could have achieved the same thing by just saying that don't use DRS and
[26:02.840 -> 26:03.680] that's it.
[26:03.680 -> 26:08.040] I only feel that this is probably them being overly cautious because if the
[26:08.040 -> 26:10.800] half's broken, maybe the other half could also break.
[26:11.200 -> 26:13.080] And if someone's in the wake of the car,
[26:13.080 -> 26:17.400] it could sort of create an issue for them or yeah. So I don't know.
[26:19.120 -> 26:23.920] Oh yeah. The solution's super engineering
[26:24.480 -> 26:25.000] at best.
[26:25.000 -> 26:34.000] But folks, check out for a YouTube short slash TikTok slash Insta reel that we're going to be doing on this topic.
[26:34.000 -> 26:40.000] Where we will explain what the black and orange flag is and what actually happened in a minute.
[26:40.000 -> 26:42.000] That is what we try to summarize.
[26:42.000 -> 26:46.880] Yeah, dude, it was more of a penalty for...
[26:50.920 -> 26:51.400] Actually, while I'm saying this, right, this thought is again coming to me, which is,
[26:57.800 -> 26:59.360] there is a problem with the car, which the driver ended up facing a penalty, quote unquote, penalty for it. Wasn't actually a penalty for him.
[27:00.960 -> 27:05.280] And his position in the race dropped, which affected him.
[27:05.440 -> 27:08.840] I mean, obviously, it all cumulatively affects the team as well.
[27:09.920 -> 27:12.120] But I'm still thinking, right, at some level,
[27:13.080 -> 27:16.840] teams should also be penalized for something like this and not just the driver.
[27:17.520 -> 27:21.680] And this all goes back to the whole discussion of Ocon and Alonso,
[27:21.680 -> 27:24.400] Alonso blocking everyone that, you know,
[27:24.400 -> 27:29.040] Ocon said that it ends up affecting other drivers and not the driver who makes the
[27:29.040 -> 27:35.200] mistakes. Anyway, I just went on rambling here, but it's a need for an overhaul in the whole
[27:35.200 -> 27:42.320] situation. Anyways, moving on. Moving on. Yeah. But anyways, like since you're talking about
[27:42.320 -> 27:46.480] black and orange, let's talk about McLaren.
[27:46.480 -> 27:52.560] I see how you make the connect of a black and orange flag to an orange car.
[27:52.560 -> 27:53.560] Sure.
[27:53.560 -> 27:54.560] Talk about it.
[27:54.560 -> 28:00.200] What was going on with the radio with Lando and his engineer man and Ricardo and his engineers.
[28:00.200 -> 28:01.920] It was so cringe.
[28:01.920 -> 28:09.000] Like first of all, like it was, I don't know. I could feel the third hand cringe while they were talking.
[28:09.000 -> 28:12.000] Hey, by the way, should I be allowed to overtake him?
[28:12.000 -> 28:13.000] And he was like, no, wait.
[28:13.000 -> 28:15.000] First, Ricardo was saying that.
[28:15.000 -> 28:19.000] And then again, the same thing opposite when Landa was behind Ricardo.
[28:19.000 -> 28:21.000] It seemed a lot weird.
[28:21.000 -> 28:23.000] It's sad.
[28:23.000 -> 28:25.000] There's some trouble brewing there.
[28:25.000 -> 28:26.000] There is.
[28:26.000 -> 28:35.160] I say it's sad because yesterday for a change, Baku, I felt that the old Daniel was back.
[28:35.160 -> 28:38.200] I was genuinely having fun watching him.
[28:38.200 -> 28:42.760] Though he had a pit stop, he was up all the way to P4 overtaking Ocon.
[28:42.760 -> 28:45.560] And he was having a good race.
[28:49.280 -> 28:49.480] He had a better pace than Lando.
[28:51.040 -> 28:54.560] But he wasn't allowed to overtake. And that goes back on his historical, you know,
[28:54.600 -> 28:57.720] stint at McLaren that you don't trust him.
[28:58.440 -> 28:59.600] It's what it felt like.
[28:59.640 -> 29:02.680] Maybe something else is going under the hood, but you don't trust him.
[29:03.360 -> 29:06.360] And then you're right to point out, out like towards the later end of the race,
[29:06.360 -> 29:10.320] Lando wasn't allowed to do this. And Lando was pointing out,
[29:10.320 -> 29:12.040] I think if I heard it right on the radio,
[29:12.040 -> 29:15.200] he was saying that I should be allowed to overtake us now.
[29:15.200 -> 29:17.920] It's about a finishing position.
[29:18.160 -> 29:21.240] Versus earlier it was just about like a racing position.
[29:21.840 -> 29:23.480] Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[29:24.480 -> 29:27.040] Yeah. I think some of the decisions I was confused about,
[29:27.040 -> 29:30.400] especially the first one, like definitely they should have straight up allowed
[29:30.400 -> 29:34.080] Ricardo to go ahead. He was on a different strategy entirely.
[29:34.080 -> 29:38.120] He was on different tires. Yeah. And if he has better pace, just let him go.
[29:38.120 -> 29:40.600] And it's just the start of the race. It doesn't matter.
[29:40.920 -> 29:44.240] If Lando is faster, he will be able to get the position back. True.
[29:44.480 -> 29:47.200] So I don't understand why they stopped him at that point.
[29:47.600 -> 29:51.160] And because of that, they created some discontent for Ricardo,
[29:51.680 -> 29:56.360] for which they had to compensate by giving team orders at the end
[29:56.360 -> 29:58.000] and asking Lando to not overtake.
[29:58.000 -> 30:02.320] It seems like their indecision, similar to Ferrari,
[30:02.320 -> 30:07.160] is causing issues between drivers, like unnecessarily, like it doesn't make sense to me.
[30:07.520 -> 30:10.560] Yeah. And it's the counter that's happening at, sorry,
[30:10.560 -> 30:15.560] is happening at RBR, right? Like, cause Max was clearly on pace.
[30:16.440 -> 30:19.440] Though Checo was told no fighting to me,
[30:19.440 -> 30:21.440] it didn't even feel like he was trying to,
[30:21.440 -> 30:25.840] because Max just sort of like slingshotted on him into that first corner.
[30:26.560 -> 30:32.400] And I feel like if they are sort of going back and forth and you see both of your cars sort of
[30:32.400 -> 30:38.640] running into how Ricardo ran into Max when he was at RBR, you sort of start giving these team orders.
[30:38.640 -> 30:47.400] But if Lando had pace, he could have overtaken him. Like why not? Anyway, it's just messed up situation at McKinley.
[30:48.500 -> 30:48.900] Yeah.
[30:48.900 -> 30:51.200] They want to sort of start replacing Ricardo.
[30:51.800 -> 30:53.600] And it's yeah, it's cringe.
[30:54.400 -> 30:55.800] Yeah, man. I don't know. It's weird.
[30:56.100 -> 30:58.500] At least they got a double points finish.
[30:58.500 -> 30:59.800] So that's good.
[30:59.800 -> 31:00.200] It's good.
[31:00.200 -> 31:00.600] That is good.
[31:00.600 -> 31:02.400] At least some silver lining there.
[31:02.500 -> 31:02.800] Yeah.
[31:02.800 -> 31:03.300] And high up.
[31:03.300 -> 31:03.900] Was it 8 and 9?
[31:03.900 -> 31:04.400] Yeah.
[31:04.400 -> 31:06.720] High up, right? Yeah, not bad. Exactly. Yeah. So 8 lining there. Yeah. And high up. Was it 8th and 9th? Yeah. High up, right? Yeah. Not bad. Exactly.
[31:06.720 -> 31:09.720] Yeah. So, 8th and 9th. Yeah. 8th and 9th.
[31:09.720 -> 31:12.440] Oh, Gasly, man. I think we didn't talk about him.
[31:12.440 -> 31:14.800] He was on fire today, right?
[31:14.800 -> 31:16.120] He was on fire. Yeah.
[31:16.120 -> 31:19.840] And he was P4 at one point when Hamilton was chasing down him.
[31:19.840 -> 31:20.520] Yeah.
[31:20.520 -> 31:26.340] I am okay with the fact that he was being told like not to fight Hamilton and be settled.
[31:26.340 -> 31:33.940] Like they'd be very happy with the P5 as well at that point and not affect like the race point that they were probably gonna get for a position.
[31:33.940 -> 31:37.260] Overall, brilliant drive.
[31:37.260 -> 31:49.360] There was this… There's a photo floating about Helmut Marko taking some signed papers and putting those into his bag and Gasly standing in front of him.
[31:49.360 -> 31:56.680] So maybe something's going on there. I don't know. If that is, then maybe that's the motivational boost that he was waiting for.
[31:56.680 -> 32:00.040] But overall, yeah, he's plowed through the weekend. He's plowed.
[32:00.040 -> 32:08.800] Yeah, I think it's like return of Gasly that's what it felt like to me. Because in recent few races, Sonoda was ahead of Gasly.
[32:08.800 -> 32:11.800] And it seems like Gasly hasn't found his Mojo.
[32:11.800 -> 32:14.800] What we have seen him through the last couple of years,
[32:14.800 -> 32:17.800] where he has had some really great results in the past.
[32:17.800 -> 32:21.800] I think he's back. I think he's there now.
[32:21.800 -> 32:24.300] And I hope that he continues with that.
[32:24.300 -> 32:28.980] But honestly, I'm kind of going on a tangent here.
[32:28.980 -> 32:33.620] But do you think Gasly has future in the Red Bull family?
[32:33.620 -> 32:35.500] Like, what are your thoughts?
[32:35.500 -> 32:40.900] Not for the few recent seasons, at least I feel.
[32:40.900 -> 32:43.700] Because as long as Perez and Max are keep...
[32:43.700 -> 32:46.480] Like, continue keep giving RBR 1-2.
[32:46.480 -> 32:50.120] And they have a camaraderie. It's not a fight at this point.
[32:50.120 -> 32:52.120] So, on the outside at least.
[32:52.120 -> 32:57.880] And as long as they have that, I don't see why experiment for something that's not broken.
[32:57.880 -> 32:59.960] Yeah, no. Definitely not.
[32:59.960 -> 33:02.000] Yeah, I don't know.
[33:02.000 -> 33:05.380] Anyways, Gasly should probably look for an outside team.
[33:05.380 -> 33:07.380] Maybe Ricardo's position.
[33:07.380 -> 33:11.480] Exactly. I think he would be a great fit at McLaren.
[33:11.480 -> 33:15.720] But does he want to go? He is doing better in an Alpha Tauri compared to...
[33:15.720 -> 33:19.180] That's true. That's true. Yeah. Would he want to go?
[33:19.180 -> 33:24.800] Let's change topics a bit. Let's talk about Aston Martin. I don't think we have talked about him in a while.
[33:24.800 -> 33:30.260] I think there were some weird break issues going on for Vettel during pre-facto site. Can you elaborate on that?
[33:30.260 -> 33:34.680] Yeah, yeah. So, I think it was either FP3 or maybe Q1.
[33:34.680 -> 33:42.200] Vettel ran into the wall, I want to say turn 15, but don't quote me on that. Turn 15, 16, somewhere there.
[33:42.200 -> 33:47.460] And his dash showed BBW failed. Again, we're going
[33:47.460 -> 33:53.960] to do a short slash reel slash TikTok on this. So folks, stay tuned for that. But it essentially
[33:53.960 -> 34:01.940] meant his break by wire failed. Break by wire is a technology that sort of helps you sort
[34:01.940 -> 34:05.640] of engine break, quote unquote, alongside with your actual
[34:05.640 -> 34:12.200] brakes and works in tandem with MG UK. Overall, what ended up happening was his brake failed
[34:12.200 -> 34:17.840] on the rears, the front took the bunch of the load, he understeered and ran into the
[34:17.840 -> 34:28.960] wall. That's the crux of it. But I feel like overall beyond just the Q1, maybe his overtake on Gasly during the race and him sort of doing a mini
[34:29.860 -> 34:32.420] Sabanella, although that...
[34:32.520 -> 34:34.600] Wait, was it Gasly? I think it was Ocon.
[34:34.680 -> 34:39.360] One of those two. And doing that mini Sabanella. By the way,
[34:39.360 -> 34:41.840] that U-turn was brilliant.
[34:42.360 -> 34:45.440] Dude, that was the highlight for me for the race.
[34:45.440 -> 34:50.240] Like watching that made it worth watching the race for me.
[34:50.240 -> 34:52.360] Yeah.
[34:53.760 -> 34:55.200] It was so freaking cool.
[34:55.200 -> 34:55.440] Right.
[34:55.440 -> 34:58.680] Like, uh, uh, I mean, think about it.
[34:58.680 -> 34:58.840] Okay.
[34:58.840 -> 35:03.960] You're going down, uh, to take a turn at whatever, like 200 miles per hour or
[35:03.960 -> 35:05.480] something like that that you try to
[35:05.480 -> 35:09.960] break you are unable to make that corner you're going into the runoff area and
[35:09.960 -> 35:15.520] while you're going and you just take a 180 degree turn and that it was so close to the barrier
[35:15.520 -> 35:28.000] in a very playful manner that too right like just having fun yeah not like it's a race day sort of thing. Yeah, it was so cool. It's so funny and honestly very dangerous as well.
[35:28.440 -> 35:30.920] But still, I love it.
[35:30.920 -> 35:35.880] And I don't know if that too was sort of like a BBW issue, but yeah, something,
[35:35.880 -> 35:41.360] something's wrong with the, I want to say something's wrong with Aston Martin
[35:41.440 -> 35:44.280] because the other drivers also just trying to...
[35:44.000 -> 35:50.000] Aston Martin, because the other driver is also just trying to... I mean, you know, at this point, I've actually forgotten that he is in that team.
[35:50.000 -> 35:56.000] He doesn't race much. He's more of a paddock pass holder at this point.
[35:56.000 -> 36:03.000] When he comes to the race, he probably just sort of skims around and then sits in the paddock and watches the race.
[36:03.000 -> 36:05.320] I think that these Canadian drivers should start their own team. skins around and then sits in the paddock and watches the race.
[36:08.200 -> 36:08.600] I think that these Canadian drivers should start their own team.
[36:10.800 -> 36:13.200] Anyways, they are together, crashing together. An F1 for bumper cars. Yes, I'd watch that.
[36:16.120 -> 36:20.760] Oh man. Oh, this guy, by the way, Stroll, he crashed again in Pali, no?
[36:20.800 -> 36:23.360] Somewhere he crashed twice, right? Oh yeah, in Pali.
[36:23.400 -> 36:24.240] Twice.
[36:28.240 -> 36:28.560] Yeah, twice. And that was so weird. First of all, he crashed.
[36:32.560 -> 36:33.160] Like, it wasn't a big crash, but he like hit his front wing on the barrier.
[36:36.960 -> 36:38.460] And the team decided like, nothing is wrong. Go ahead. Push. We don't have time to check.
[36:39.160 -> 36:41.660] And then right after that, he's in the barrier again.
[36:42.860 -> 36:44.600] I love the memes on those as well.
[36:46.560 -> 36:51.560] after that he's in the barrier again. I love the memes on those as well. How did you crash? Let me show you how I did it and then he goes in again.
[36:51.560 -> 36:59.320] Just some brilliant memes coming out of it. Yeah, at this point I don't know man what
[36:59.320 -> 37:03.840] is Stroll doing like it seems to me like these Canadian billionaires are just
[37:03.840 -> 37:10.720] showing off how much money they have by crashing cars or whatever. He was nowhere. And like Vettel clearly who,
[37:10.720 -> 37:14.960] first of all, Vettel missed the first three races, right? So in all this is his fourth
[37:14.960 -> 37:29.200] race and he came in where? P6, P7, somewhere like that, right? P6, exactly. It's amazing. In that shitbox, it was quite amazing. And that too, after
[37:29.200 -> 37:34.960] losing a lot of time by taking that 180 degree turn that he took, by cooking his tyres, doing
[37:34.960 -> 37:35.960] that as well.
[37:35.960 -> 37:40.120] Yeah, he would have probably been like P5 and taken Gasly's position. I think at some
[37:40.120 -> 37:44.360] point the commentators also said like if Vettel would have not done that, he would have probably
[37:44.360 -> 37:45.600] been P4 as well. That would have been said like if Vettel would have not done that, he would have probably been P4 as well.
[37:45.600 -> 37:49.360] That would have been brilliant seeing Vettel P4.
[37:49.360 -> 37:56.880] I think Vettel has earned more points in four races than Stroll has done in the last seven races.
[37:56.880 -> 38:04.560] You know what, this sort of starts... It makes me ask this question because Latifi has run his car quite a lot.
[38:04.560 -> 38:07.560] Mix sort of done it and he's gotten a warning for it from the team.
[38:07.960 -> 38:09.160] Stolz been doing this.
[38:09.520 -> 38:13.440] We have a capped budget this year and
[38:13.760 -> 38:18.160] these fixes sort of eat into that. Right.
[38:18.640 -> 38:23.240] And we've sort of started seeing teams complaining about the fixed budgeting
[38:23.240 -> 38:24.080] issues already.
[38:24.200 -> 38:28.440] Yeah, that's true. And I think we're going to see this more and this is the seventh race.
[38:28.440 -> 38:33.640] These people have hit the car into the barrier so many times already.
[38:33.640 -> 38:38.080] The money is, I mean, where is the money going to come from? Like, of course, it's
[38:38.080 -> 38:43.000] coming from parts and their future development and R&D and everything.
[38:43.000 -> 38:47.340] So every crash that they do, it's not just costing them,
[38:47.340 -> 38:49.120] but also their team mate,
[38:49.560 -> 38:53.080] because of course when the team doesn't have enough money to bring in parts,
[38:53.240 -> 38:56.720] it's going to affect everybody in terms of performance.
[38:56.720 -> 38:58.320] And yeah, it's,
[38:58.320 -> 39:03.240] I don't know how these teams are going to deal with this because you know,
[39:03.260 -> 39:09.560] it's like a double edged like having rookies with having rookies you have the risk that they
[39:10.620 -> 39:13.840] might crash. Being a smaller team,
[39:14.120 -> 39:17.240] it's difficult to get more experienced drivers because you have to pay them more
[39:17.440 -> 39:19.360] and of course you have to rely on them.
[39:19.360 -> 39:23.120] Driver salaries are not part of the cap budget, right? No, they are not.
[39:23.120 -> 39:28.880] But then smaller teams don't have money anyways anyways so they are still capped by money so for those
[39:28.880 -> 39:34.000] reasons they cannot bring in drivers that they'll have to pay more and
[39:34.000 -> 39:38.480] with rookies of course they are not gonna crash more so they are gonna need more
[39:38.480 -> 39:42.640] money so it's you know it's weird like it's a catch-22 for them I don't know
[39:42.640 -> 39:50.280] how they're gonna deal with this. this it's gonna be interesting and how they keep crying after maybe five more
[39:50.280 -> 40:27.280] races and like the last five shouting, I declare bankruptcy. He does give off some Michael Scott vibes, doesn't he?
[40:27.280 -> 40:27.880] He does.
[40:34.440 -> 40:36.360] Man, such a boring fucking race.
[40:36.360 -> 40:38.000] We don't have anything to talk about today.
[40:39.000 -> 40:39.360] Yeah.
[40:39.360 -> 40:43.600] We are the Vettels for Aston Martin at this point.
[40:45.200 -> 40:49.360] And while everyone else is sort of like holding their backs for the back pain,
[40:49.360 -> 40:54.400] Vettel's holding his shoulder for carrying all the weight for Aston Martin on his shoulders.
[40:55.120 -> 40:55.680] Yeah, man.
[40:58.800 -> 40:59.360] So true.
[41:00.080 -> 41:06.160] Let's see. I guess that summarizes what we think of the Baku weekend.
[41:06.160 -> 41:11.680] Ferrari is already parting in Toronto because they reached early yesterday.
[41:12.240 -> 41:15.600] And these teams are slowly reaching there. So next weekend,
[41:17.120 -> 41:21.840] we'll see you all with the Canadian Grand Prix. Share this with your friends. Share these with
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