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The 2021 Saudi Arabian GP was everything that F1 shouldn't be. With several race restarts, Red Flags, Penalties, and manufactured excitement by FIA, it left a bad taste in everyone's mouths. This track was one of the most dangerous tracks we have witnessed. With all the chaos that happened yesterday, we go into the last race with Max and Lewis tied on the championship table.
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# Podcast Episode Summary: A Disastrous Saudi Arabian Grand Prix
## Introduction:
* The 2021 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix was a chaotic and controversial race, marred by multiple race restarts, red flags, penalties, and manufactured excitement by the FIA.
* The podcast hosts, Akash and Saran, express their frustration with the race and the state of Formula One.
* They call for a ban on the Jeddah Corniche Circuit and criticize the FIA for their incompetent handling of the race.
## Race Recap:
* The hosts discuss the numerous incidents and controversies that occurred during the race, including:
* Tsunoda's collision with Vettel
* Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton's clash
* Sergio Perez's dangerous off-track excursion
* The FIA's negotiations with Red Bull over penalties
* The lack of investigation into Charles Leclerc's incident
* The overall poor quality of the race
## FIA Criticism:
* Akash and Saran heavily criticize the FIA for their mismanagement of the race, calling them "clowns" and accusing them of creating a dangerous and unfair environment for the drivers.
* They point to the inconsistent and seemingly arbitrary application of penalties as evidence of the FIA's incompetence.
* They also criticize the FIA for allowing the race to be held in Saudi Arabia, a country with a poor human rights record.
## Manufactured Excitement:
* The hosts argue that the FIA is intentionally creating controversial situations to generate excitement and viewership, even at the expense of the drivers' safety and the integrity of the sport.
* They point to the numerous incidents and restarts as evidence of this manufactured excitement.
## Conclusion:
* The hosts wrap up the episode by calling for a change in the FIA's leadership and a return to the principles of fair play and safety in Formula One.
* They also encourage fans to voice their concerns to the FIA and to support drivers who speak out against the current state of the sport. **Saudi Arabian Grand Prix 2021: A Controversial Race and a Bitter Aftertaste**
The 2021 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix, held at the Jeddah Corniche Circuit, was a contentious race marked by numerous incidents, penalties, and manufactured excitement. The track's dangerous design and FIA's questionable decisions left a sour taste among fans and pundits alike.
**Key Points:**
1. **Circuit Criticism:** The Jeddah Corniche Circuit was heavily criticized for its poor design, inadequate safety features, and lack of runoff areas. The narrow track and limited overtaking opportunities contributed to several accidents and incidents throughout the race.
2. **FIA's Controversial Role:** The FIA's handling of the race was widely criticized. The inconsistent application of penalties, the perceived favoritism towards certain drivers, and the lack of transparency in decision-making raised concerns about the integrity of the sport.
3. **Max Verstappen vs. Lewis Hamilton Rivalry:** The intense rivalry between Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton reached a boiling point in Saudi Arabia. The two drivers engaged in several heated battles on track, with Verstappen ultimately emerging victorious. However, the race was marred by controversial incidents involving both drivers, leading to accusations of aggressive driving and unfair treatment.
4. **Manufactured Excitement:** The race was criticized for its manufactured excitement, with multiple red flags and restarts artificially prolonging the event. This tactic, aimed at creating a more thrilling spectacle for viewers, was seen as unnecessary and detrimental to the sport's credibility.
5. **Lack of Investigation:** Several incidents during the race, including an aggressive move by Charles Leclerc on Sergio Perez, went uninvestigated by the FIA. This lack of accountability further fueled the perception of bias and inconsistency in the FIA's decision-making.
6. **FIA's Lack of Transparency:** The FIA's reluctance to provide clear explanations for its decisions and the lack of transparency in its processes added to the frustration and anger among fans and teams. The perceived lack of accountability eroded trust in the governing body's ability to ensure fair and consistent competition.
**Overall Message:**
The Saudi Arabian Grand Prix was a disappointing and controversial event that highlighted the need for improved track safety, consistent officiating, and greater transparency from the FIA. The race left a bitter aftertaste and raised concerns about the direction of Formula One.
[00:00.000 -> 00:09.300] Wasn't like yesterday more like a butterfly effect? Like, until you get your desired result, keep resetting your life to an alternate timeline.
[00:09.300 -> 00:12.840] Until you get your desired result, keep doing that.
[00:28.000 -> 00:33.000] Hello and welcome back to F1 Fan Fiction, the penultimate race, Saudi Grand Prix. Before we get into the race, stay tuned for mid-episode shoutouts.
[00:33.000 -> 00:39.000] As we've promised, it's the season of giving, Thanksgiving, Christmas is around the corner.
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[01:07.400 -> 01:11.400] We've got a few shoutouts from fans who've written into us.
[01:11.400 -> 01:15.400] And with that said, let's dive into the episode.
[01:15.400 -> 01:19.400] Oh, by the way, this is going to be an explicit episode because
[01:19.400 -> 01:26.000] there's pent up frustration that's built up with both me, your host Akash and Saran.
[01:26.000 -> 01:32.160] And so if you're not of appropriate age or if you're listening this in solace and with no parents around,
[01:34.000 -> 01:38.080] you've been warned and cautioned this is going to be an explicit episode.
[01:38.080 -> 01:40.160] With that said, let's get into the episode.
[01:41.680 -> 01:45.800] Ah, what happened yesterday, man? Like what was going on?
[01:45.800 -> 01:46.600] Was it a race?
[01:46.600 -> 01:47.200] I don't think so.
[01:47.200 -> 01:52.600] First of all, out of the million reasons there are, get the
[01:52.600 -> 01:54.100] fuck out of Saudi Arabia.
[01:54.100 -> 01:57.400] Yes, that should not exist.
[01:57.400 -> 02:02.600] I mean, geographically for sure, maybe, but even as a racetrack,
[02:02.600 -> 02:04.500] please don't race.
[02:04.500 -> 02:07.240] I completely agree. But even as a racetrack, please don't race.
[02:08.840 -> 02:09.040] I completely agree.
[02:13.320 -> 02:17.400] I have been shouting this, uh, since ever since I saw the track, ever since like photos have come out, I have always been of the opinion
[02:17.400 -> 02:19.360] that no one should be racing.
[02:19.360 -> 02:21.400] That the track is too narrow.
[02:21.920 -> 02:23.080] There are no runoffs.
[02:23.680 -> 02:29.040] Uh, there's no, you know, space for making any mistakes.
[02:29.080 -> 02:31.340] And that's exactly what happened yesterday.
[02:31.340 -> 02:35.360] What we saw, like, it was a dangerous mess, wasn't it?
[02:35.860 -> 02:36.360] It is.
[02:36.360 -> 02:41.480] And I mean, it's everything an F1 track should not have all brought in together.
[02:41.480 -> 02:43.960] I mean, there's elements of it, which I'd love to see in tracks.
[02:43.960 -> 02:48.720] So for sure, but like all brought in together, no elevation changes.
[02:48.720 -> 02:59.360] So it's basically like driving on flat sand, but just concretized high-speed corners with no runoff area. So it's like blind high-speed.
[02:59.360 -> 03:08.600] Yes. So like go kill yourself sort of thing. I mean, it's fine if you keep this as your last race, because then some people die and
[03:08.600 -> 03:11.240] you've got like new drivers coming in next season.
[03:11.240 -> 03:13.960] So sure, this works out.
[03:13.960 -> 03:15.200] Oh man.
[03:15.200 -> 03:16.200] Yes.
[03:16.200 -> 03:21.880] You know what Snehal, my wife, like, you know, put it perfectly yesterday and I love the
[03:21.880 -> 03:22.920] way she put it.
[03:22.920 -> 03:27.760] She said that Saudi Arabia loves putting people in barriers and that's exactly
[03:27.760 -> 03:29.240] what they did with the track as well.
[03:30.160 -> 03:33.640] Because that's exactly what the track was. It's just surrounded by barriers,
[03:33.640 -> 03:38.800] no space at all, creating these dangerous situations. And then, you know,
[03:39.080 -> 03:43.960] it almost felt like their idea of a good race
[03:44.040 -> 03:48.320] is chaos and accidents and they got what they wanted.
[03:49.080 -> 03:50.280] Yeah, man, totally.
[03:50.280 -> 03:53.720] And I feel like Mick was a bit lucky there.
[03:53.920 -> 03:55.880] There's nothing, nothing bad happened with him.
[03:55.880 -> 04:02.720] I mean, what you just described is, is exactly what, what happened with Mick, like he just ran himself off into there.
[04:03.160 -> 04:05.080] We've, we've got a look as well. Right.
[04:05.080 -> 04:07.840] And yeah, I mean, we've got a section coming up for Perez as well.
[04:07.840 -> 04:12.160] Later in the episode, something, something dangerous happened with him too.
[04:12.680 -> 04:15.800] Oh no, I meant about going off in FP3.
[04:16.040 -> 04:16.520] Oh yeah.
[04:16.520 -> 04:18.240] The same spot where Mick went.
[04:19.000 -> 04:25.640] That too was, was a, a risky offshoot from the whole track area.
[04:25.640 -> 04:35.600] Leclerc's lucky enough to not, you know, having walked away without any more damages to himself.
[04:35.600 -> 04:47.440] But man, I mean, so beyond everything else, I mean, the race result was somewhat expected. Yada, yada, but the track,
[04:47.440 -> 04:52.720] as I like to call it, and maybe, maybe some other motorsports fan and American folks listening to
[04:52.720 -> 05:01.360] this are going to relate to this. It's drunken Daytona. With some squiggles around. It's drunken
[05:01.360 -> 05:07.800] Daytona for me. Yeah, man. In in fact it's a drunken dangerous Daytona
[05:07.800 -> 05:13.360] Daytona still feels a lot safer right I mean there are no blind corners at least
[05:13.360 -> 05:17.200] yeah you're going at full speed almost throughout the track but at least you
[05:17.200 -> 05:25.440] see what's going on ahead of you so still so you can say it's more dangerous than data.
[05:33.760 -> 05:38.560] Well, well, and then on top of that, the whole, the whole starting grid chaos. And I mean, at this point it should just be like, you know, how the, how the, the
[05:38.560 -> 05:42.160] lottery ticket has like a random number.
[05:42.800 -> 05:43.280] Yeah.
[05:43.680 -> 05:44.240] Just do that.
[05:45.800 -> 05:46.920] I would actually enjoy that.
[05:46.920 -> 05:47.080] Right.
[05:47.080 -> 05:47.620] It would be fun.
[05:47.620 -> 05:52.240] Just like each driver going at it at the slot machine and seeing who gets the first
[05:52.240 -> 05:54.280] position and second and third and so on.
[05:54.720 -> 05:59.680] Probably the only way Nikita can also get, get on the starting, starting grid.
[06:00.320 -> 06:00.720] Right.
[06:00.760 -> 06:01.240] I don't know.
[06:01.240 -> 06:08.560] I mean, there were, there were news coming out before the weekend where Papam has been like bought him a new chassis or something,
[06:08.560 -> 06:16.560] a new power unit or whatever. Right. Basically, bought him a new car. Let's put it. Because Haas wasn't doing much.
[06:16.560 -> 06:28.240] Well, good for him because he crashed after Nick. So at least he got to drive it more. But to add to the whole drama over the weekend,
[06:28.240 -> 06:32.720] man, and here comes the shit show. What the fuck was FIA doing?
[06:34.000 -> 06:40.800] Yeah, it's insane. It felt like some college students are running it. It didn't feel like
[06:40.800 -> 06:47.040] a professional sport. It didn't feel like't feel like a top class organization at all.
[06:48.200 -> 06:49.220] It was chaos.
[06:49.220 -> 06:51.120] Like Michael Massey was lost.
[06:51.120 -> 06:54.440] All the teams were just, I think,
[06:54.440 -> 06:56.040] being aggressive to him, I guess,
[06:56.040 -> 06:59.540] because he seemed flustered as well in those radio calls.
[07:00.400 -> 07:02.400] It's everything is just weird.
[07:02.400 -> 07:07.200] I don't understand all the penalties that went by all the
[07:07.200 -> 07:11.700] negotiations that were going on before the second start between
[07:11.700 -> 07:12.600] Massey and Red Bull.
[07:12.600 -> 07:16.500] Like how the fuck is it a negotiation whether you know, I mean
[07:16.500 -> 07:18.800] whatever stewards decide is the final decision.
[07:18.800 -> 07:20.000] You are not.
[07:20.000 -> 07:24.500] Hey, we had a kid coming through.
[07:24.500 -> 07:25.300] Right?
[07:26.700 -> 07:29.300] Yeah, that whole thing made no sense, especially after the
[07:29.300 -> 07:30.300] secondary start, right?
[07:30.300 -> 07:34.400] When that that radio between Red Bull and Michael Massie where
[07:34.400 -> 07:36.400] he says, are you okay with P2?
[07:36.400 -> 07:38.500] I mean, what are do they have an option of saying?
[07:38.500 -> 07:39.600] No, I want P1.
[07:39.900 -> 07:43.100] And if they say that are you going to listen like what the
[07:43.100 -> 07:43.700] fuck was that?
[07:43.700 -> 07:45.240] And he totally forgot about Ocon.
[07:45.840 -> 07:49.320] He completely forgot that Ocon wasn't that in that equation.
[07:49.600 -> 07:51.880] He's like Hamilton P1, Max P2.
[07:51.880 -> 07:55.640] And then, uh, the Red Bull guy is like, okay, what about Ocon then?
[07:55.920 -> 07:57.320] And he's like, oh yeah, sorry.
[07:57.320 -> 07:58.280] I forgot about that.
[07:58.280 -> 08:01.200] And like, like seriously, dude, you're the race detector.
[08:01.360 -> 08:09.200] So, so I'm not going to lie here, but like, I didn't watch the first 36 episodes live.
[08:09.680 -> 08:16.280] I saw that as an after fact and having seen as an after fact, you mean 36 laps?
[08:16.280 -> 08:16.880] Yeah.
[08:17.320 -> 08:18.080] Wait, what did I say?
[08:18.080 -> 08:18.320] Yeah.
[08:18.320 -> 08:19.120] 36 laps.
[08:19.600 -> 08:20.040] Oh, sorry.
[08:20.440 -> 08:20.720] Yeah.
[08:20.760 -> 08:21.960] The first 36 laps.
[08:21.960 -> 08:25.040] I saw it as an after fact, as a whole replay.
[08:25.040 -> 08:32.320] And like having seen it as an after fact, I'm like, why did I even waste my time watching the first 36 laps?
[08:32.320 -> 08:48.360] And the 13 and like the 14 or whatever laps that I did see live, it felt like the other cars were in the garage and only Max and Lewis were on the track. I've got like so much frustration pent up.
[08:48.360 -> 08:50.920] I mean, you guys are listening to this on audio.
[08:50.920 -> 08:52.120] You can't see it on video.
[08:52.120 -> 08:53.920] Like, Saran can see me right now.
[08:53.920 -> 08:56.400] I'm visibly frustrated at this point.
[08:56.400 -> 08:58.640] Akash, I think view of your hair just fell off.
[08:58.640 -> 09:01.880] Dude, I'm visibly frustrated at this point.
[09:01.880 -> 09:06.000] It's like,, freak, man.
[09:06.000 -> 09:09.000] Because there were so many good battles going on.
[09:09.000 -> 09:14.000] The only place I saw these battles were the names shuffling on the left-hand side.
[09:14.000 -> 09:16.000] I'm like, I don't care.
[09:16.000 -> 09:19.000] I don't want to see Lewis driving alone on the track.
[09:19.000 -> 09:20.000] Show me these battles.
[09:21.000 -> 09:22.000] Especially the last two laps.
[09:22.000 -> 09:25.320] The awesome battle between Okon and Botas, we were just
[09:25.320 -> 09:26.320] denied of that.
[09:26.320 -> 09:28.040] I mean, what the fuck, man?
[09:28.040 -> 09:29.040] Yeah.
[09:29.040 -> 09:30.920] Now, coming back to FIA class.
[09:30.920 -> 09:36.640] So the first penalty that goes out was like a five second penalty for Max and then another
[09:36.640 -> 09:40.080] 10 second penalty for this one.
[09:40.080 -> 09:41.080] This one.
[09:41.080 -> 09:45.880] And I don't want to blame it on Louis or Max because to be really honest, like this
[09:45.880 -> 09:48.920] wasn't like a driver's fault.
[09:48.920 -> 09:52.480] Max was told from the garage that, hey, we got to let Louis pass.
[09:52.480 -> 09:53.480] Sure.
[09:53.480 -> 09:56.680] Louis wasn't told from the garage that Max is going to let you pass.
[09:56.680 -> 09:57.680] So go.
[09:57.680 -> 10:01.640] So at the end of the day, this is a garage problem.
[10:01.640 -> 10:07.640] And we've spoken about this in the past too, like why are drivers getting penalized for
[10:07.640 -> 10:09.960] something that is not their fault?
[10:09.960 -> 10:13.320] Like FIA, get your shit together.
[10:13.320 -> 10:18.760] Cause you need to start thinking of regulations where you start penalizing the pit crew, the
[10:18.760 -> 10:27.200] garage and the constructor championship at this point, because it's not a driver's problem. And a 15 second total penalty.
[10:27.680 -> 10:33.020] How do you equate this with like a fucking max would have been dead at this point?
[10:33.020 -> 10:37.720] 50 G crash receiving a 10 second stop and go penalty.
[10:38.720 -> 10:41.920] Yeah, that's, that's my benchmark in life at this point.
[10:41.920 -> 10:46.720] Like if anything goes bad, I'm going to equate it to Max staying alive courtesy of Lewis
[10:46.720 -> 10:53.960] Hamilton with a 50G crash and getting like a 10 second stop and go penalty.
[10:53.960 -> 10:56.360] The whole thing was very weird.
[10:56.360 -> 11:01.120] First of all, though, let's talk about that weird crash that we saw, like the slowing
[11:01.120 -> 11:03.200] down and everything that was going on.
[11:03.200 -> 11:07.080] So the main issue is that FIA fucked up.
[11:07.320 -> 11:10.840] They created the situation because they did not, I mean, it's simple, right?
[11:10.880 -> 11:15.320] Like you tell the driver behind first that you are supposed to take the driver
[11:15.320 -> 11:20.320] ahead that give the position back and did the exact opposite.
[11:20.640 -> 11:29.960] Like what, what sense, what sense did it make? I don't understand. And okay, that happened. They crashed fine. Then I think,
[11:31.360 -> 11:34.880] so what's happened still had the position. Then again,
[11:34.880 -> 11:37.840] I think he was told to give it. And then he did the trick off, you know,
[11:37.840 -> 11:38.680] that was like,
[11:41.080 -> 11:43.800] I mean, I loved the way he did it.
[11:44.280 -> 11:48.440] And so for folks who probably not seen this, who don't know what we're talking about, this
[11:48.440 -> 11:55.620] was this was at the U-turn of their drunken Daytona at the other end, where Max gave Lewis
[11:55.620 -> 12:03.680] his position back right at the DRS detection point so that he can use himself to like launch
[12:03.680 -> 12:04.680] past Lewis.
[12:04.680 -> 12:05.680] And that's what he did.
[12:05.680 -> 12:09.640] So nonetheless, that was very cheeky from Max.
[12:09.640 -> 12:10.520] Go ahead.
[12:10.520 -> 12:11.920] Yeah.
[12:11.920 -> 12:13.720] No, I mean, yeah, that was cheeky.
[12:13.720 -> 12:17.480] And definitely, I do agree that it's not exactly legal.
[12:17.480 -> 12:20.920] So he was bound to give it back again.
[12:20.920 -> 12:23.800] But in the meantime, he got the five second penalty.
[12:23.800 -> 12:24.280] Right.
[12:24.280 -> 12:27.640] So because of that, he didn't have to give it back again. But in the meantime, he got the five second penalty, right? So because of that, he wasn't, he didn't have to give it back again.
[12:28.160 -> 12:30.400] So FIA created this confusion.
[12:30.720 -> 12:35.120] Uh, they did the whole thing of, uh, creating the crash and everything.
[12:35.400 -> 12:38.680] They still penalized, uh, what's happened, even though he tried to give the
[12:38.680 -> 12:40.160] position that, I mean, he really did.
[12:40.560 -> 12:41.800] He, he did slow down.
[12:41.800 -> 12:48.840] I mean, regardless of what, like the whole shitstorm is going on Twitter about that. I, uh, I don't think there was
[12:48.840 -> 12:53.000] any malicious, uh, attempt at like crashing into Hamilton didn't seem
[12:53.000 -> 12:56.760] like, yeah, he wasn't going to make it easy for them and that's fair enough.
[12:57.160 -> 13:00.840] But, uh, he did give him ample opportunity to go, but yeah, because of
[13:00.840 -> 13:04.840] miscommunication, whatever happened happened, but still a fire goes on and
[13:04.840 -> 13:06.400] gives them a five second penalty.
[13:06.400 -> 13:10.960] And then again, a 10 second penalty for a situation that they themselves created.
[13:10.960 -> 13:15.080] I mean, seriously, like what the hell is going on?
[13:15.080 -> 13:16.680] I mean, it doesn't end there, right?
[13:16.680 -> 13:23.000] Like it feels like it feels like Toto Wolf and the whole Mercedes garage is just paying
[13:23.000 -> 13:29.280] off FIA at this point. And like, for whatever it feels like they're probably sucking Hamilton's
[13:29.280 -> 13:31.880] cock at like on a Thursday evening or whatever.
[13:32.720 -> 13:35.160] Um, like,
[13:35.280 -> 13:39.600] for those people who didn't hear your warning earlier, this is your last chance.
[13:40.840 -> 13:44.080] No, cause I mean, let me put this straight.
[13:44.080 -> 13:47.760] Let me put this straight. Kudos to Hamilton for winning the race.
[13:47.760 -> 13:53.360] Because I mean, whatever is the situation, he's cranky, I hate him, whatever, right?
[13:53.360 -> 14:00.080] Like, he won, he's got a better car, he's got better skills, he's a seven-time world champion. Sure.
[14:00.080 -> 14:08.680] He's won. Due credit to him.. All right. So not taking that away. I am frustrated with all the other things that are going around.
[14:08.680 -> 14:32.000] Because let's come back to FIA and look what was happening. I think it was the first safety car or the second safety car where Botas, who gets no penalty for slowing the whole, like, his Delta was way off. Everyone on radio, even Brundle and the British media,
[14:32.000 -> 14:36.100] who's all Lewis biased and Mercedes biased, is also saying
[14:36.100 -> 14:37.800] like, this should not be allowed.
[14:37.800 -> 14:39.600] No penalty.
[14:39.600 -> 14:41.700] No penalty.
[14:41.700 -> 14:45.400] Like Bota says, this podium is Ocons.
[14:45.400 -> 14:47.000] Like why is BOTAS there?
[14:48.000 -> 14:50.800] Yeah, man, definitely.
[14:50.800 -> 14:53.000] BOTAS deserved a penalty for that.
[14:53.000 -> 14:55.200] I mean, you are slow.
[14:55.200 -> 14:58.800] I mean, first of all, the safety car is out because of some safety
[14:58.800 -> 15:04.400] situation. And if safety is of utmost importance, this shouldn't
[15:04.400 -> 15:05.440] be allowed. Simple as that.
[15:05.440 -> 15:08.000] You can't, I mean, it was very clear why he did it.
[15:08.040 -> 15:12.120] He did it so that Hamilton gets the advantage of good taking that pit stop
[15:12.360 -> 15:14.320] and not ending up behind a max.
[15:14.680 -> 15:16.800] And definitely that shouldn't be allowed at all.
[15:16.800 -> 15:18.400] He should have been penalized for that.
[15:18.680 -> 15:22.000] And another incident that happened, and I think Hamilton has done this before
[15:22.000 -> 15:26.800] as well, is during the formation lab procedures, right.
[15:26.840 -> 15:30.860] Uh, if you have noticed whenever, uh, especially in the recent few
[15:30.860 -> 15:36.360] races, uh, whenever, uh, was tapping us ahead of him, uh, or, uh, like
[15:36.380 -> 15:41.300] not like Lewis is significantly behind in the grid, he slows down.
[15:41.760 -> 15:42.080] Yeah.
[15:42.120 -> 15:49.720] So that, uh, you know, Max's temperatures of his bikes and tires and everything drop and he has a disadvantage.
[15:49.720 -> 15:52.400] And I don't agree that that's fair.
[15:52.400 -> 15:57.160] And this should be penalized. There should be rules against this for sure.
[15:57.160 -> 16:08.640] Yeah, no, it feel like, sorry to interrupt you, but you know, one thing which I get
[16:08.640 -> 16:13.280] frustrated about is, okay, so let me start from here.
[16:13.360 -> 16:15.680] Before we started this podcast, right.
[16:15.880 -> 16:19.720] I was never a fan of Hamilton in general.
[16:21.000 -> 16:23.480] And one of my big reasons was that he would win every day.
[16:25.080 -> 16:30.600] And of course that he used to complain so much during the course of all the episodes
[16:30.600 -> 16:34.640] that we have done, I have gained a lot of, you know, respect for Lewis for his
[16:34.640 -> 16:36.000] driving and his resilience.
[16:36.040 -> 16:40.160] And I totally agree that, you know, I don't think a lot of drivers come close
[16:40.160 -> 16:43.800] to that skill of handling both.
[16:44.560 -> 16:45.440] But, but people blame Max for being aggressive. to that skill of handling both.
[16:45.440 -> 16:49.920] But people blame Max for being aggressive.
[16:49.920 -> 16:51.340] I do agree he is aggressive.
[16:51.340 -> 16:59.200] A lot of times some of his moves are a little questionable and also sometimes a little dangerous.
[16:59.200 -> 17:01.760] I do agree to that as well.
[17:01.760 -> 17:06.800] But I refuse to agree that Lewis doesn't do the same.
[17:06.800 -> 17:11.200] Both parties are guilty of the similar things.
[17:11.200 -> 17:13.000] Just that they do it in different things.
[17:13.800 -> 17:19.300] What I mean is Lewis does it in things like race procedure, like restart
[17:19.300 -> 17:21.600] procedure, safety car procedures and things like that.
[17:23.000 -> 17:26.160] And nobody points fingers about that, which is very weird to
[17:26.160 -> 17:33.040] me. I totally agree that he is a great driver. He is very resilient and just keeps getting stronger
[17:33.040 -> 17:37.040] through the season. But at the same time, you need to point fingers at the faults as well.
[17:37.040 -> 17:41.840] Like you can't have somebody who has just positives. And I say that the same thing for
[17:41.840 -> 17:46.320] Max as well. But yeah, it should be equal treatment on both sides.
[17:46.320 -> 17:57.440] No, I think with the whole management change this year and with like FIA just acting like clowns, and it's not Saudi.
[17:57.440 -> 18:08.520] I mean, with Saudi, they've just pushed the whole limit, but like this whole season, it's just been random noise, no consistency between how they hand out points.
[18:10.520 -> 18:14.040] I, yeah, I miss Bernie at this point.
[18:15.040 -> 18:15.600] Yeah, right.
[18:16.080 -> 18:18.480] I never thought I would say that and I would agree to this.
[18:20.200 -> 18:23.160] The whole management change has just gotten too much.
[18:23.120 -> 18:26.800] The whole management change has just gotten too much. So, I agree with you.
[18:26.800 -> 18:33.280] My another reason to start disliking Lewis was probably because it was getting too monotonous.
[18:33.280 -> 18:39.520] This season, finally, things were getting better until the whole FIA should stop it.
[18:39.520 -> 18:47.800] But yeah, anyways, let's wrap up this FIA topic.
[18:47.800 -> 18:49.200] I want to move past this.
[18:49.200 -> 18:52.200] I want to move past these clowns and I don't want to give them one.
[18:52.200 -> 18:57.200] One more thing I wanted to say about that about consistency.
[18:57.200 -> 18:57.400] Right?
[18:57.400 -> 18:58.400] Snowda.
[18:58.400 -> 19:05.840] Yeah. metal out of the track for no reason at all.
[19:07.080 -> 19:09.000] And he was given just a five second penalty.
[19:09.480 -> 19:11.840] What are you serious?
[19:11.960 -> 19:16.880] There is, there's absolutely nothing happening.
[19:17.200 -> 19:22.760] Um, FIA needs to realize what is the difference between pushing someone
[19:22.760 -> 19:28.400] off the track, causing someone life threatening crash.
[19:28.400 -> 19:34.160] And I mean, again, it was a racing incident. So fans were going to explode saying it wasn't Lewis's fault.
[19:34.160 -> 19:39.200] It was sure. Yeah, the tires weren't warm enough, the brake weren't warm enough, whatever.
[19:39.200 -> 19:51.240] At the end of the day, pushing someone off the track, cutting their track and gaining advantage, almost killing someone, and whatever other 5-6 scenarios are, these are different
[19:51.240 -> 19:52.240] scenarios.
[19:52.240 -> 19:57.780] Please get your act together to sort of come down with a consensus on how penalties should
[19:57.780 -> 20:02.140] be given when you're playing in any of these scenarios.
[20:02.140 -> 20:07.840] And there should be a whole new bucket for if the pit is screwing
[20:07.840 -> 20:13.400] things up, which should not be penalized to the drivers because it's not their fault.
[20:13.400 -> 20:17.520] Take money away from the constructor title, whatever money you in fact, take points of
[20:17.520 -> 20:27.360] whatever, whatever I would say. But yeah, FIA seriously needs to sort of now get their shit together.
[20:27.360 -> 20:29.840] Because it's getting beyond now.
[20:29.840 -> 20:31.840] Yeah.
[20:31.840 -> 20:33.840] Anywho.
[20:33.840 -> 20:39.280] Let's pause here. Let's calm down for at least for myself.
[20:39.280 -> 20:41.280] Let's calm down for a bit.
[20:41.280 -> 20:47.000] You know what, I thought that since we are recording this a day late, I thought that
[20:47.000 -> 20:49.240] we would have more common minds.
[20:49.240 -> 20:50.700] That's what I thought.
[20:50.700 -> 20:56.000] But it's not when I think about it again, I just get as much as I was yesterday.
[20:56.000 -> 20:59.080] Yeah, yeah, totally.
[20:59.080 -> 21:04.060] Well hopefully these mid episode shout outs are going to calm me down.
[21:04.060 -> 21:06.640] So Hey folks, let's take a few shout
[21:06.640 -> 21:12.160] outs from a few fans that have reached out to us. As promised and just to be clear, we're
[21:12.160 -> 21:16.600] not taking money for this. This is the season of giving, it's Christmas, this is our first
[21:16.600 -> 21:23.160] year doing this podcast as a season one. If you want a shout out, just reach out to us,
[21:23.160 -> 21:26.000] find a way to reach out to us because we've said this a couple of times.
[21:26.000 -> 21:29.000] Ping us and we will give you a shout out.
[21:29.000 -> 21:41.000] The first one goes out from a regular fan of ours, Zunair Alam, who sent this beautiful image.
[21:41.000 -> 21:46.000] And I'm just going to read the whole passage that says who am I at 3 a.m.
[21:46.000 -> 21:51.280] where do my thoughts begin is really life this disappointing it never feels
[21:51.280 -> 21:56.880] like that is day or it is because we strangled by a schedule there's a whole
[21:56.880 -> 22:01.720] big poem what I'm gonna do is it's gonna take too much time if I read the whole
[22:01.720 -> 22:10.240] thing I'm gonna repost this thing I going to repost this thing on our Instagram page. Folks go out, listen to this, read this.
[22:11.200 -> 22:18.560] Thank you Zanera for sending this lovely message. And also she says, oh, by the way, definitely do
[22:18.560 -> 22:24.320] a live stream on Twitch for Abu Dhabi. She's got her whole gang set up to listen to us. So
[22:24.320 -> 22:25.760] we will definitely try that.
[22:26.400 -> 22:28.640] Sarang is in Seattle, so that's probably going to be like,
[22:29.200 -> 22:36.400] half of the night for him. So we will try our best. The second message goes out for
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[23:09.280 -> 23:16.800] designer and stylist who's trying to make big. If you have any new property that needs interior
[23:16.800 -> 23:28.240] designing or styling, go check out our Instagram page. That's interior. That's let's talk design with Sonam. So thank you folks for reaching
[23:28.240 -> 23:35.280] out to us, sending in your messages. And for folks who are listening to us at this point,
[23:35.280 -> 23:43.520] yeah, ping us. We don't care. We will give you a shout out. We will send your message
[23:43.520 -> 23:45.800] across to whatever it is.
[23:45.800 -> 23:48.800] With that said, let's get back into the episode.
[23:48.800 -> 23:55.480] Well, since you're getting shout outs, I have kind of a shout out.
[23:55.480 -> 23:59.240] Somebody who replied to one of our videos on TikTok.
[23:59.240 -> 24:05.000] I think it's I think at Drew TikTok, who is a follower.
[24:08.000 -> 24:09.440] I totally agree to what he or she said.
[24:13.960 -> 24:14.200] It's basically that, you know, that no matter who was right,
[24:19.360 -> 24:19.440] that in this race, everything that could happen to make them look bad happened.
[24:22.160 -> 24:24.200] And I totally agree to the sentiment.
[24:31.520 -> 24:34.200] Every single team, pretty much every single driver, FIA, Max, Lewis, whoever, everybody pretty much was on their worst behavior.
[24:34.200 -> 24:36.740] That's what it felt like.
[24:36.740 -> 24:39.360] Everybody was making mistakes.
[24:39.360 -> 24:46.960] Everybody was doing some weird things like FIA with the whole negotiation thing, FIA with the whole penalties,
[24:46.960 -> 24:51.120] the Max and Lewis confusion with the overtake and everything, you know, all of that was
[24:51.120 -> 24:52.120] very weird.
[24:52.120 -> 24:54.120] It really felt like amateur hour.
[24:54.120 -> 24:59.840] And then in the garage, going crazy with stuff happening outside.
[24:59.840 -> 25:02.240] Yep, exactly.
[25:02.240 -> 25:04.360] Everything, right?
[25:04.360 -> 25:07.720] Like, oh, God, I don't know.
[25:07.720 -> 25:10.280] It was a huge mess, huge stinking pile of shit.
[25:10.280 -> 25:11.120] That's all I can say.
[25:11.120 -> 25:16.520] I was more stressed after the race than ever.
[25:16.520 -> 25:18.520] But yeah, I agree.
[25:18.520 -> 25:20.520] Thank you.
[25:20.520 -> 25:21.120] Thank you.
[25:21.120 -> 25:26.000] Random person on TikTok.
[25:28.760 -> 25:31.120] What do we have next? Max versus Lewis.
[25:31.120 -> 25:34.480] Let's dive into that.
[25:34.760 -> 25:39.400] I'm glad in a sense that at least the points are tallied up at this point.
[25:39.400 -> 25:46.680] And it's like, I'm feeling that anxiety of like, you know, school time, you've got this last exam, you
[25:46.680 -> 25:53.000] gotta just power through that and see how you come out of it.
[25:53.000 -> 25:55.720] So it's good in that way.
[25:55.720 -> 25:56.720] It's good.
[25:56.720 -> 26:09.440] I mean, I'm, I don't know, I'm split kind of, especially because you know what I would like to call this race as manufactured
[26:09.440 -> 26:13.640] excitement because that's what it was.
[26:13.640 -> 26:25.920] FIA with their incompetency and their stupidness have created these weird situations where external factors decide the result of
[26:25.920 -> 26:28.560] the race, which I am not a fan of at all.
[26:29.440 -> 26:33.160] And it's gotten too dirty.
[26:33.160 -> 26:40.280] I feel like rivalries have been dirty in the past as well, but most of them
[26:40.280 -> 26:44.040] have always been between drivers and it always stays within the
[26:44.040 -> 26:45.800] track and between drivers and it always stays within the track and between
[26:45.800 -> 26:47.160] drivers.
[26:47.160 -> 26:55.560] But I think what's happening now is that FIA seems to have taken out the role of being
[26:55.560 -> 27:02.440] the mediator here and they're making sure that the fight stays dirty just for the sake
[27:02.440 -> 27:04.040] of ratings.
[27:04.040 -> 27:05.840] And I don't like that a bit.
[27:05.840 -> 27:07.840] No, I agree with you.
[27:07.840 -> 27:12.320] And I mean, it's not been clean, at least even from the team principals at this point.
[27:12.320 -> 27:12.560] Right.
[27:12.560 -> 27:19.440] Like, I think you shared an image or a video with me where Toto was like, oh, we'll bring everything on that.
[27:19.440 -> 27:20.240] There is right.
[27:20.240 -> 27:21.360] Oh, I forget.
[27:21.360 -> 27:22.560] I forget what the video was.
[27:22.560 -> 27:23.280] Terrible.
[27:23.280 -> 27:30.360] That was terrible. Okay. So he basically compared, uh, the whole, uh, situation about the
[27:30.360 -> 27:33.340] rare wing in the last race, the penalty that they got the
[27:33.340 -> 27:34.600] disqualification and everything.
[27:34.600 -> 27:35.100] Right.
[27:35.300 -> 27:41.020] So what he basically was saying that is that we like Mercedes as the
[27:41.020 -> 27:46.480] team had to face a similar challenge as Lewis has had to face through his life,
[27:46.480 -> 27:50.960] like in terms of racism and stuff. I was like, dude, what the fuck are you comparing? Are you
[27:50.960 -> 27:58.480] fucking out of your mind? Go fuck yourself. He ended up comparing the oppression of being a
[27:58.480 -> 28:09.600] black person to being challenged and given a penalty for you being sneaky and doing a rear wing manipulation?
[28:09.600 -> 28:29.000] Yeah, it was just so bad. I don't know. I don't understand what I don't like. I mean, sure, you want to win that eighth championship and like, whatever, right?
[28:29.000 -> 28:40.160] But at least it's deterring. I mean, we're still going to watch it. But it's, I don't know how long can I keep doing this.
[28:40.160 -> 28:51.480] I mean, at this point, it's all the viewers and all the messages that we get, like, which makes sort of has that dopamine release in my brain, which like, okay, yeah, I want to do this for these guys.
[28:52.920 -> 29:03.120] But every time I see Toto and like, also on top of that, like him going nuts in the garage with like no mask on, I'm like, if I was going to punch this guy.
[29:06.320 -> 29:12.640] mask on. I'm like, if I was there, I would have punched this guy. Anyways, coming back to Max and Louis and what you're saying. Yeah, I mean, it does feel like FIA is sort of like manufacturing
[29:12.640 -> 29:17.520] this. They've probably gotten like a good marketing team at this point who's telling them
[29:18.640 -> 29:27.720] even negative publicity is good publicity sort of thing. So it's getting to that level at this point.
[29:27.720 -> 29:34.480] Credit to Louis because at least he's using his position in the sport to voice out his
[29:34.480 -> 29:39.360] opinions. And I mean, he was pretty vocal about it saying, it wasn't my decision to
[29:39.360 -> 29:44.060] be here, which is putting out a statement, which is definitely putting out a statement.
[29:44.060 -> 29:46.000] So kudos to him for doing that.
[29:46.000 -> 29:59.000] Yeah, definitely. The good thing about this whole thing is that these veterans like Hamilton, as well as Vettel as well, right?
[29:59.000 -> 30:05.520] They both have used their positions so well from all the controversy and everything.
[30:05.520 -> 30:10.520] And I think I'm happy about that, that they are getting a very good platform to bring
[30:10.520 -> 30:16.480] up these important messages that, you know, it's and representation matters, right?
[30:16.480 -> 30:24.120] Like unless the people at the top don't show support and solidarity with different causes,
[30:24.120 -> 30:31.160] change is never going to happen. So I'm glad that, uh, Hamilton spoke up against, uh, the LGBTQ issues
[30:31.200 -> 30:35.040] in Saudi Arabia. He also came up with his LGBTQ themed helmet as well.
[30:35.360 -> 30:40.600] Same with Vettel. I really want to give a shout out because, uh, he, if I don't
[30:40.600 -> 30:45.100] know if you had read about this, but he held a carting event for
[30:45.100 -> 30:49.920] women in Saudi Arabia and his, his basically perspective was that the
[30:49.920 -> 30:53.880] reason for holding that was not just to promote motorsport, but it was more
[30:53.880 -> 30:59.460] about interacting with people on the ground and actually learning
[30:59.460 -> 31:00.880] about the realities from them.
[31:00.980 -> 31:03.820] And this was a very good opportunity for him to do that.
[31:03.860 -> 31:07.680] And, uh, and I'm, I'm really happy that he did it. It's,
[31:07.720 -> 31:09.520] it's great that they're using it correctly.
[31:09.560 -> 31:13.880] Even though FIA is just has become so much, you know,
[31:13.880 -> 31:18.280] cash is king kind of an attitude and, uh, they'll do anything for money.
[31:18.280 -> 31:22.080] That's very evident. And, uh, yeah, I think,
[31:23.600 -> 31:28.160] anyways, but let's not get there. I think we've circled back to FIA because
[31:28.160 -> 31:33.040] it's just so frustrating. The whole frustration is built up with them.
[31:34.400 -> 31:40.880] Long story short, FIA sucks. Kudos to veterans, Lewis for standing up,
[31:40.880 -> 31:45.840] Wettel for standing up, Alonzo, Kimi doesn't give a damn, but sure he's.
[31:47.280 -> 31:52.320] Coming back to Max versus Lewis, I think we've got a few thoughts with like Max as well.
[31:53.280 -> 32:02.720] He has been an elbows out sort of driver. He did cut corners to gain that advantage. And I mean,
[32:02.720 -> 32:05.000] sure, all of that too.
[32:05.000 -> 32:10.000] I agree he's got to calm things a bit down even with that quali.
[32:10.000 -> 32:15.000] He messed up. He messed up there didn't he?
[32:15.000 -> 32:20.000] I feel it was in his hands. I need to do it. That's what happened.
[32:20.000 -> 32:36.600] That's true. That's true. I like how he's at the age of, I think, like 23 or 24, he's pulling up and bringing the challenge to Hamilton.
[32:36.600 -> 32:45.800] But he's still got this delta to figure out to keep it with the interaction. Probably he's doing it consciously.
[32:45.800 -> 32:50.280] I don't know what's going on in his head.
[32:50.280 -> 32:58.920] But at least as a viewer, I'm thinking he's sort of going above and beyond, then he can
[32:58.920 -> 33:00.240] control things.
[33:00.240 -> 33:01.240] Yeah, yeah.
[33:01.240 -> 33:04.320] And at the same time, I'm sorry, go ahead.
[33:04.320 -> 33:10.640] Yeah, no, I agree that, you know, I have been a Max fan in general for a few years now.
[33:10.640 -> 33:11.800] I mean, I wouldn't say a fan.
[33:11.800 -> 33:16.000] I as such, I'm a neutral viewer, but I would say I'm like, I favor Max.
[33:16.000 -> 33:18.600] A growing appreciation of his driving.
[33:18.600 -> 33:20.080] Yeah, exactly.
[33:20.080 -> 33:21.080] Exactly.
[33:21.080 -> 33:25.840] But I do agree that he sometimes is a bit too aggressive, I would say.
[33:25.840 -> 33:31.600] And for his, I mean, in fact, for his own good, he should learn to lean in the
[33:31.600 -> 33:34.640] aggression a little, because that's exactly what happened in the qualification.
[33:35.040 -> 33:36.880] He messed up because of his aggression.
[33:37.360 -> 33:42.920] Same thing happened during the race as well, in the sense that, you know,
[33:42.920 -> 33:45.160] cutting that corner, he shouldn't have done that.
[33:45.160 -> 33:46.720] He should have known better to not do that,
[33:46.720 -> 33:48.840] especially with the championship online,
[33:48.840 -> 33:51.580] with how FIA has been so veered with penalties
[33:51.580 -> 33:52.420] and everything.
[33:54.560 -> 33:58.040] That's why Hamilton wins these championships, right?
[33:58.040 -> 34:00.220] He can stay calm in those situations
[34:00.220 -> 34:03.320] and kind of think about the bigger picture.
[34:03.320 -> 34:07.600] And I think Max still has some area of improvement in that aspect.
[34:07.600 -> 34:09.200] Yeah.
[34:09.200 -> 34:13.600] And at the same time, I think I want to also mention Louis here
[34:13.600 -> 34:18.400] because I think he needs to slow down with all the cribbing and crying.
[34:18.400 -> 34:24.000] It feels like a 3-year-old toddler asking for a toy and totos like that.
[34:24.000 -> 34:25.120] That one parent who's always ready to give their kid the whole world. three year old toddler asking for a toy and totos like that, that,
[34:29.560 -> 34:29.920] that one parent who's always ready to give their kid the whole world,
[34:34.160 -> 34:34.320] even if it means the kid's gonna choke them or whatever.
[34:38.360 -> 34:38.440] Yep. Um, that cribbing after the first red flag,
[34:43.440 -> 34:45.800] Oh my God, he was literally saying these words and I'm not lying or neither am I paraphrasing the tire barriers
[34:45.800 -> 34:50.400] looked fine to me and what the fuck is wrong with you dude.
[34:50.400 -> 34:55.080] The red flag is for your safety for everyone's safety.
[34:55.080 -> 34:56.080] That was stupid.
[34:56.080 -> 35:10.240] And while we talk about like Max being aggressive, Louis also pushed Max out of the track. I feel like Aramco had paid too much money to FIA.
[35:10.240 -> 35:15.080] Toto had probably given half his wealth to Massey.
[35:15.080 -> 35:17.280] Whatever it was, it felt like a one-sided affair.
[35:17.280 -> 35:23.920] And again, keep going back to FIA, the whole frustration from the weekend.
[35:23.920 -> 35:26.960] But anyways, that should have also been, I think like this weekend,
[35:26.960 -> 35:31.760] there were quite a lot of incidents which should have been investigated, which weren't. Some that
[35:31.760 -> 35:37.200] were harshly penalized, which well deserved penalties, but shouldn't have been given that much.
[35:37.200 -> 35:42.960] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally agree. Yeah, that incident between Lewis and Maxwell,
[35:42.960 -> 35:46.000] Lewis pushed him, wasn't even investigated.
[35:46.000 -> 35:47.000] Nothing at all.
[35:47.000 -> 35:48.880] I don't agree to that.
[35:48.880 -> 35:49.880] It's weird.
[35:49.880 -> 35:53.000] I do agree that Max is sometimes aggressive, but so is Lewis.
[35:53.000 -> 35:54.160] Exactly what Aziz said.
[35:54.160 -> 35:58.560] So again, the treatment between both the parties should be equal.
[35:58.560 -> 35:59.560] Simple as that.
[35:59.560 -> 36:03.840] None of those are better than the other, honestly.
[36:03.840 -> 36:04.840] It's like this.
[36:04.840 -> 36:07.760] If there's a gray area, teams are going to exploit it.
[36:07.760 -> 36:08.760] Simple as that.
[36:08.760 -> 36:09.760] Don't keep any grey area.
[36:09.760 -> 36:10.760] Simple as that.
[36:10.760 -> 36:11.760] What else?
[36:11.760 -> 36:17.520] What else was happening between Max and you guys?
[36:17.520 -> 36:23.840] Man, so many things happened in yesterday's race that I can barely remember everything.
[36:23.840 -> 36:26.080] With all the restarts.
[36:26.200 -> 36:30.000] Oh, like I was watching like multiple different races.
[36:30.000 -> 36:32.560] It felt like I was actually watching different races.
[36:32.560 -> 36:35.400] I wasn't like yesterday, more like a butterfly effect.
[36:35.400 -> 36:39.200] Like until you get your desired result, keep resetting your life
[36:39.680 -> 36:41.560] to an alternate timeline.
[36:43.680 -> 36:45.480] Until you get your desired result.
[36:45.480 -> 36:46.480] Keep doing that.
[36:46.480 -> 36:48.480] Oh man, yeah, it's just weird.
[36:48.480 -> 36:53.800] I think there was, sorry, go ahead again.
[36:53.800 -> 36:55.520] No, nothing.
[36:55.520 -> 37:00.720] I mean, just that, you know, I, I'm very happy that what an awesome season we are having
[37:00.720 -> 37:02.600] in terms of the championship and everything.
[37:02.600 -> 37:09.880] I'm happy that, you know, we have like two top drivers who have a real shot at the championship.
[37:09.880 -> 37:14.000] But I think this left a bitter taste in my mouth overall.
[37:14.000 -> 37:20.080] I'm honestly speaking, I'm not that excited for the last race as I was earlier, just because
[37:20.080 -> 37:23.440] I feel that this thing is going to repeat there.
[37:23.440 -> 37:25.360] And we are going to have a championship winner
[37:25.360 -> 37:31.120] decided by FIA and not on the track. So I don't want Kimmy to just knock both of these guys off.
[37:36.000 -> 37:39.520] I'd have no hard feelings for Kimmy. I in fact love him for doing this.
[37:41.120 -> 37:47.000] Actually, you know what, speaking of Kimmy, taking some attention off of Max and Hamilton,
[37:47.000 -> 37:51.480] we'll come back because I think like this one, two thoughts there.
[37:51.480 -> 37:57.880] But for this, this award for maximum overtakes, it's these three veterans fighting off.
[37:57.880 -> 38:00.400] Alonzo, Vettel and Kimmy.
[38:00.400 -> 38:01.400] I love that.
[38:01.400 -> 38:03.400] I love seeing that.
[38:03.400 -> 38:05.000] Absolutely.
[38:05.000 -> 38:11.000] It's so awesome to see that because I don't know.
[38:11.000 -> 38:17.000] It's always that these guys are in these weird situations where they gain like 5-6 positions at the start.
[38:17.000 -> 38:19.000] Just because of their experience.
[38:19.000 -> 38:31.280] And yeah, they deserve it, I guess. Last thought, at least before moving out of Lewis versus Max, I think like Red Bull,
[38:32.000 -> 38:38.720] maybe luckily or however, got their strategy right. But what was happening with the
[38:39.840 -> 38:42.880] like the tire management stuff? They put on mediums?
[38:45.240 -> 38:46.360] I didn't make sense.
[38:46.660 -> 38:49.980] I think they thought that they probably are going to get a lot more safety
[38:49.980 -> 38:52.480] cars, which they did and still their strategy didn't work.
[38:52.560 -> 38:57.840] So I don't exactly understand what exactly were they thinking that is the whole
[38:57.840 -> 38:59.580] race going to be behind a safety car.
[38:59.580 -> 39:02.640] And that's why they did that maybe, but I don't know.
[39:02.640 -> 39:03.640] It made no sense.
[39:04.040 -> 39:07.960] Uh, it was very evident that Max had no pace left in his tires
[39:07.960 -> 39:08.800] towards the end of the day.
[39:09.520 -> 39:12.800] Even if say, suppose none of that bullshit happened, none of that
[39:12.800 -> 39:16.200] crashing, those penalties or anything, they would have still lost the days
[39:16.240 -> 39:17.640] just because of their diet choice.
[39:18.320 -> 39:18.820] Yeah.
[39:19.160 -> 39:19.660] Yeah.
[39:19.920 -> 39:20.420] Yeah.
[39:21.360 -> 39:27.020] Uh, while we were on Red Bull, the second driver, I was hoping, I was
[39:27.020 -> 39:28.760] hoping to get a bit more from Perez.
[39:30.560 -> 39:36.480] That first, the original race start, he almost ran Max out of the race.
[39:36.680 -> 39:37.400] Oh yes.
[39:41.880 -> 39:42.200] Yep.
[39:42.640 -> 39:45.400] But it wasn't Perez's day yesterday, man.
[39:46.100 -> 39:47.000] Definitely not.
[39:47.100 -> 39:48.700] He got horribly squeezed.
[39:48.700 -> 39:52.400] I think the second restart or third, I don't know what whichever restart that was.
[39:53.500 -> 39:57.600] Charles, man, Charles is like a mini Max.
[40:00.300 -> 40:01.000] Elbows out.
[40:01.700 -> 40:02.300] Yeah.
[40:02.900 -> 40:03.300] Yeah.
[40:04.300 -> 40:06.000] He is often found in out. Yeah. Yeah. He is often found in crashes.
[40:06.000 -> 40:07.000] Yeah.
[40:07.000 -> 40:13.000] I think he's compensating for a Grosjean not being here.
[40:13.000 -> 40:14.000] Yeah.
[40:14.000 -> 40:15.000] Right.
[40:15.000 -> 40:16.000] Yeah.
[40:16.000 -> 40:19.000] If you can't find him anywhere, just look around, you know, during the crash.
[40:19.000 -> 40:20.000] Yeah.
[40:20.000 -> 40:28.200] I mean, that thing, I don't't understand Charles wasn't given a penalty.
[40:28.200 -> 40:30.240] Yeah that should have also been a penalty.
[40:30.240 -> 40:36.640] I don't understand why there was no investigation required according to them that clearly was
[40:36.640 -> 40:42.080] I mean Charles messed up he was significantly behind he should have yielded there was no
[40:42.080 -> 40:55.000] space again comes back to the track being shitty. There was no space. Again, comes back to the track being shitty. And there was no space. He completely destroyed Perez's race and no investigation necessary. Makes no sense to me at all.
[40:55.000 -> 41:11.960] Yeah. And I mean, again, we come back to the whole track not being well designed to, right? There's multiple things happening here. A, that position
[41:11.960 -> 41:18.400] in which Perez's car was stuck was super risky because someone would have probably just T-board
[41:18.400 -> 41:30.640] him. There's no runoff area, which makes the whole thing way more nasty. And it feels, the whole thing feels like the whole track was just done in a
[41:30.640 -> 41:35.880] haste because up until like two weeks back, it literally was, it was yes.
[41:35.880 -> 41:39.200] Cause two weeks back, so much of it wasn't even done.
[41:41.760 -> 41:42.640] So yeah, overall.
[41:42.640 -> 41:45.120] And I think you mentioned this, like before we started recording too,
[41:45.840 -> 41:51.840] this, this track does need Gravel Traps. It does need a few other things, which,
[41:51.840 -> 41:56.720] which the other tracks have, but maybe yeah, cash is king. So nobody cares.
[41:56.720 -> 42:05.280] Yeah. You know what, honestly speaking, throughout the race while tweeting, while anything that I was doing with regards to Saudi
[42:05.280 -> 42:11.280] Arabian GP I felt somewhat disgusting to support their white like sports washing
[42:11.280 -> 42:18.280] and to be a part of it just because I enjoy motorsports I do I mean I I hate
[42:18.280 -> 42:23.120] the fact that I am becoming a part of the sports washing along with Saudi
[42:23.120 -> 42:26.640] Arabia and I hate that this race happened here.
[42:26.920 -> 42:31.600] This track was bullshit and yeah, FIA go fuck yourself.
[42:31.600 -> 42:31.900] Please.
[42:31.900 -> 42:34.880] I hate everything about yesterday's race.
[42:35.040 -> 42:41.400] With that, if you want your messages to be, uh, you know, repeated by us, you
[42:41.400 -> 42:45.520] want to shout out, you want to promote anything, write into us.
[42:45.520 -> 42:51.520] You know where to find us. I'm going to repeat the whole thing. F1 Fan Fiction, anywhere on the internet.
[42:51.520 -> 43:08.960] And yeah, it's the season of giving. We'll probably have like, obviously, we'll have Abu Dhabi and we'll probably have like one or two episodes coming out after that as well. So yeah, your messages will be shouted out, promoted, whatever it is. Until
[43:08.960 -> 43:15.280] the decider finale next week. These are your hosts signing off.
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