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We return after a nice long summer break, which was extended due to the Belgian rain which gave us an extra non-race weekend. The 2021 Dutch GP was highly anticipated due to it's newly introduced banking on turns 3 and 14. The Dutch GP delivered and exceeded expectations. The fans were out there to cheer for Max and he did put up a stellar show! FIghting against a charging Hamilton, Max had to fight for the win till the later part of the race.
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Intro: Howling (Sting) - Gunnar Olsen
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* **Mercedes Shenanigans:**
* Valtteri Bottas faced criticism for his performance, particularly regarding team orders and his reluctance to challenge for the fastest lap.
* Bottas's radio messages with James Vowles were highlighted as a source of controversy, with Bottas seemingly surrendering to team instructions.
* Lewis Hamilton's complaints about tire issues and power unit problems were deemed excessive and unnecessary.
* Mercedes' strategy decisions, including the second pit stop, were questioned for their lack of effectiveness.
* **Max Verstappen's Dominance:**
* Verstappen delivered a flawless performance, leading the race from start to finish and maintaining a comfortable gap to Hamilton.
* Verstappen's consistency and maturity were praised, with his aggressive driving style becoming less prevalent.
* His ability to handle the unique challenges of Zandvoort's banked corners was particularly impressive.
* **Red Bull's Strategic Success:**
* Red Bull's strategy was lauded for its effectiveness, with the team making the right calls at the right time.
* Sergio Perez's decision to take an extra engine penalty was seen as a smart move, allowing him to have two fresh engines for the rest of the season.
* Perez's aggressive driving style and numerous overtakes were entertaining, although his tendency to start from the back of the grid was questioned.
* **Alpine's Resurgence:**
* Alpine showed signs of improved performance, with both Fernando Alonso and Esteban Ocon performing well.
* Alonso's brilliant driving, including his overtaking maneuvers and his response to team instructions, was particularly noteworthy.
* The team's newfound pace and competitiveness were a pleasant surprise, especially considering their struggles earlier in the season.
* **Zandvoort Banking Corners:**
* The newly introduced banked corners at Zandvoort were a major talking point, with drivers and fans alike expressing their opinions.
* The corners presented a unique challenge, requiring drivers to navigate a steep banking while maintaining speed and control.
* Verstappen's mastery of these corners was a highlight of the race, showcasing his exceptional car control and adaptability.
* **Toto Wolff's Alleged Interference:**
* Toto Wolff's rumored attempts to prevent Alexander Albon from joining Williams were met with criticism.
* Wolff's actions were seen as an abuse of power and a hindrance to Albon's career prospects.
* The lack of consistency in enforcing rules and regulations, as seen in the different treatment of Vettel and Mick Schumacher compared to Nikita Mazepin, was also highlighted.
**Race Review: Dutch Grand Prix 2021**
* The Dutch Grand Prix at Zandvoort delivered an exhilarating race, exceeding expectations with its newly introduced banking on turns 3 and 14.
* Max Verstappen, the home favorite, put up a stellar performance, battling against a charging Lewis Hamilton to secure his first home Grand Prix victory.
**Key Highlights:**
* Valtteri Bottas received a message from his engineer, James, during the race, reminding him to manage his tires.
* Hamilton expressed dissatisfaction with his tires, a recurring complaint throughout the season.
* Sergio Perez, Verstappen's teammate, displayed impressive overtaking skills, moving from the midfield to the podium.
* Toto Wolff, Mercedes team principal, blocked Alex Albon's potential move on Hamilton, leading to criticism from Red Bull's Christian Horner.
* Alpine continued its strong performance, with Fernando Alonso and Esteban Ocon securing points finishes.
* Sebastian Vettel had another unfortunate spin, earning him the nickname "Inspector Seb" for his frequent incidents.
* The Dutch fans, known as the "Orange Army," created a vibrant and enthusiastic atmosphere throughout the weekend.
**Track Appreciation:**
* The Zandvoort circuit received praise for its flowing layout, elevation changes, and banking, providing exciting racing and overtaking opportunities.
* The track's unique design offered excellent vantage points for spectators, allowing them to witness the cars' maneuvers up close.
**Environmental Consciousness:**
* The Dutch Grand Prix organizers implemented a recycling cup system to promote environmental sustainability.
* Fans received tokens in exchange for plastic cups, which they had to return to vendors for refills or disposal, reducing waste.
* The stadium remained remarkably clean throughout the event, showcasing the effectiveness of the recycling initiative.
**Championship Standings:**
* Verstappen extended his lead in the Drivers' Championship by two points over Hamilton, setting the stage for a thrilling title battle in the remaining races.
* Mercedes maintained its advantage in the Constructors' Championship, but the gap to Red Bull narrowed.
**Conclusion:**
* The Dutch Grand Prix was a resounding success, delivering an entertaining race and showcasing the passion of the Dutch fans.
* The track's unique characteristics and the recycling efforts left a positive impression, highlighting the potential for more exciting races at Zandvoort in the future.
* The championship battle remains tight, with Monza, known for its high-speed straights, presenting the next challenge for the drivers.
[00:00.000 -> 00:05.000] I personally want to mature and move away from using that term,
[00:05.200 -> 00:09.480] but Vettel's like a dog who needs to pee to mark his spot.
[00:09.680 -> 00:12.680] He needs to spin on every track to mark his spot.
[00:12.880 -> 00:14.680] Like, okay, I was here. At least once.
[00:14.880 -> 00:15.880] At least once.
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[00:40.560 -> 00:42.240] I mean, there was nothing happened.
[00:42.240 -> 00:47.480] Two laps driving behind a safety car is not a race and it doesn't warranty an episode yeah we didn't show
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[01:38.960 -> 01:46.640] let's get into the show Sarang your thoughts on Mercedes shenanigans. Let's just start there.
[01:53.440 -> 01:54.160] Oh, well, I mean, we all saw what happened yesterday, especially with BOTAS, you know,
[02:02.320 -> 02:05.120] there were some team orders going on, some insulting, some not so much, especially the one with at this pace pace we are not going to interact with
[02:05.120 -> 02:10.360] the race leaders I mean wow that was a burn. Wasn't it like a bully system at
[02:10.360 -> 02:15.120] this point right it's like and it was it was very early into the race as well it
[02:15.120 -> 02:19.680] was like a lap 18 or something and and he's being told at this pace yeah we are
[02:19.680 -> 02:29.160] not interacting with the leaders and then a burn on that at lap 29 so when when he's leading the race and both the leaders have had a pit stop,
[02:29.280 -> 02:33.440] it's like, so for this, uh, it looks like a race win,
[02:33.440 -> 02:36.040] but we leave it up to you. So it's like, you do you.
[02:37.280 -> 02:39.480] Yeah. But they didn't say who's race win.
[02:42.920 -> 02:44.120] It was still up in the air.
[02:44.840 -> 02:48.160] Man, this is pure bully system happening.
[02:49.520 -> 02:53.440] Yeah. I mean, I felt bad for Vurtaz yesterday, very honestly.
[02:53.520 -> 02:56.480] Yeah. I mean, everything, right.
[02:56.480 -> 02:59.560] Like the one you mentioned at lap 29, where he was ahead.
[02:59.560 -> 03:04.120] I mean, they were clearly, you know, making him use as a roadblock for
[03:09.200 -> 03:13.920] for Vostapin, but that wasn't really helpful. I didn't get why they did it because he was on super old tires. There's nothing he could have
[03:13.920 -> 03:19.600] done to stop Verstappen. I think Verstappen used the right strategy at that time. He kind of held
[03:19.600 -> 03:26.240] back to not run in the dirty air that Bottas was throwing out from the back of his car.
[03:26.240 -> 03:30.240] And they kept him out but that didn't gain them anything at all.
[03:30.240 -> 03:32.000] He ended up third no matter what.
[03:32.000 -> 03:35.200] So I don't really get the whole thing that they did back then.
[03:35.200 -> 03:41.520] Yeah, I guess there was just some play of hopefulness that maybe he holds off Max Marriott.
[03:41.520 -> 03:42.800] Yeah.
[03:42.800 -> 03:46.280] Well, but at least the good part is a Finn gets replaced by a Finn.
[03:46.280 -> 03:49.240] So I mean, he's off to Alfa Romeo.
[03:49.240 -> 03:57.000] I hope it's not a place where people retire from that one car where Finn's retired.
[03:57.000 -> 03:59.000] Is it a career ending team?
[03:59.000 -> 04:01.000] It seems like it.
[04:01.000 -> 04:02.000] Well, yeah.
[04:02.000 -> 04:06.800] That's where old drivers go and dig their own grave. Is that it?
[04:06.800 -> 04:09.800] Yeah, Alfa is going to be the new retirement team now.
[04:09.800 -> 04:13.800] Yeah, I think they will have weekly bingos soon.
[04:13.800 -> 04:23.800] Retirement drivers paired with Italians playing bingo on Sunday afternoon.
[04:23.800 -> 04:27.560] Sure, sure. Is that why Ra I can and didn't show up for
[04:27.560 -> 04:34.960] the race yeah I feel like he was actually at Zanderwood but just just a
[04:34.960 -> 04:46.920] few yards to the west on the beach possibly just chilling with a beer and be like, yeah, I'm done. I've retired now.
[04:47.120 -> 04:47.960] Yeah. It did feel like that.
[04:47.960 -> 04:52.680] Like he turned in his papers that this is my last season and then just, yeah, I have COVID.
[04:52.680 -> 04:53.040] Sure.
[04:53.040 -> 04:53.200] Yeah.
[04:53.200 -> 04:54.320] Two weeks notice, right?
[04:54.400 -> 04:57.120] Like that's me after giving my two weeks notice.
[05:00.800 -> 05:02.520] Anyways, let's get back to Mercedes.
[05:02.520 -> 05:08.280] I mean, yeah, but I mean, another awesome thing that
[05:08.280 -> 05:14.840] happened yesterday with Botas was the whole last fastest lap thing. So I guess he, they
[05:14.840 -> 05:20.440] had to pit him because obviously like they were trying to make the one stop work, which
[05:20.440 -> 05:25.040] obviously wasn't going to, I don't even know why they attempted it in the first place.
[05:25.040 -> 05:30.000] But either ways, they first of all pit him for fresh tires and then tell him that
[05:30.000 -> 05:35.200] don't get the fastest lap. I mean, how are you supposed to say someone that drives slow
[05:35.760 -> 05:41.440] just because you want to save that one precious point for Hamilton. And yeah,
[05:41.440 -> 05:47.320] obviously Valtteri went for it. But I think once he got the radio message, Valtteri hits James.
[05:47.520 -> 05:49.360] I think that's what that was the end of it.
[05:49.360 -> 05:50.600] He had to slow down after that.
[05:50.800 -> 05:53.120] Yeah, man, I don't I don't understand the team.
[05:53.320 -> 05:58.080] I mean, sure, they say that there was there were some vibrations.
[05:58.280 -> 06:02.000] I am personally not buying into it.
[06:02.200 -> 06:04.480] Yeah, I'm definitely not buying into it.
[06:04.680 -> 06:06.400] But sure, there were vibrations and you
[06:06.400 -> 06:12.520] get someone on new tires. How can you not hope that he's gonna go for the fast? Come
[06:12.520 -> 06:18.300] on. Come on. At that point, whoever called I mean, even if Bernie Eccleston called from
[06:18.300 -> 06:32.300] wherever he's retiring, you shouldn't because you already have a multi-year contract with Alfa Romeo. Come on. Exactly. Yeah. I don't know what James has on Bottas because it seems like he has some dirt on him.
[06:32.800 -> 06:38.100] Because every time James comes on the radio, Bottas just surrenders instantly.
[06:38.200 -> 06:43.300] Yes. Oh, yeah. That's a very fair point. Yeah, there could be something lying around there.
[06:43.900 -> 06:48.920] Because his race engineer earlier mentioned to him that, you know, don't go for the fastest lap.
[06:48.920 -> 06:52.880] He didn't listen. He kept going. But as soon as it was James, it was like done.
[06:52.920 -> 06:54.200] He had, he started slowing down.
[06:54.200 -> 06:58.920] And that too was a very, very direct message, right? It was like, do not attempt,
[06:59.240 -> 07:02.800] like abandon your purple lap. Like, okay, that's a good story.
[07:05.440 -> 07:08.840] Regardless, he got the fastest lap. And then obviously,
[07:08.840 -> 07:14.320] Hamilton had to pit and get the fastest lap. Yeah, but yeah, but
[07:14.320 -> 07:17.880] that played into Verstappen's hands, I think because any
[07:17.880 -> 07:20.840] threat, I mean, not that Hamilton had a threat by the end
[07:20.840 -> 07:23.800] of the race, because he didn't have much tire life left in
[07:23.800 -> 07:25.280] those.
[07:31.040 -> 07:37.120] But any thread that he kind of posed to Westapen was completely eliminated and it was just a breeze after that. So yeah. Yeah, I mean tire thread with Hamilton yesterday was, let me actually count. So
[07:37.120 -> 07:47.720] there was lap 5, there was lap 32, lap 44, 45, 48 and 60. So that's six times he's complained about tires yesterday.
[07:48.680 -> 07:54.280] Once he's said on the radio that, oh, Max is very lucky with traffic
[07:54.480 -> 07:56.360] and that coming from Lewis. OK.
[07:56.800 -> 08:02.240] And then when tires couldn't do any much good for him to play him as an underdog
[08:02.240 -> 08:06.400] for whatever reason, he started blaming the power unit to which
[08:06.960 -> 08:11.520] that was hilarious his race engineers were very prompt saying there's no there's no problem with
[08:11.520 -> 08:15.840] with the power unit and at that point my head was like it's you it's it's the driver
[08:20.000 -> 08:28.880] yeah i mean as soon as he came onto the radio in lap five, I think, right. I was sure like, yes, this is going to be a very long race with a lot
[08:28.880 -> 08:30.080] of complaining going on.
[08:31.600 -> 08:36.480] I mean, it's awesome that even in a Mercedes, which was not as fast as the
[08:36.480 -> 08:39.360] Red Bull, that was very clear on yesterday's track.
[08:39.360 -> 08:43.520] He was able to really put up a good challenge on max and he did put a lot
[08:43.520 -> 08:44.360] of pressure on him.
[08:44.840 -> 08:45.160] So, you know, complete kudos to him for that. to really put up a good challenge on Max and he did put a lot of pressure on him.
[08:47.040 -> 08:50.560] So, you know, complete kudos to him for that. But the complaining man, just stop it.
[08:50.600 -> 08:52.120] Just stop it. Please stop it.
[08:53.880 -> 08:55.640] Or at least don't show us that radio.
[08:55.640 -> 08:57.280] Please. I'm tired of it by now.
[08:58.120 -> 08:59.920] True, man. I don't want to hear him complain.
[08:59.920 -> 09:01.800] Like I don't care about his tires.
[09:02.120 -> 09:04.360] At this point, my brain's like lap one.
[09:04.360 -> 09:05.520] He has tire issues
[09:05.520 -> 09:09.120] until he finishes. If he's winning, there are no tire issues. Okay, I understand this.
[09:09.680 -> 09:17.360] Let's, let's move on. I think FIA, I mean, not FIA, but like rather F1 in general, FOM who basically
[09:17.360 -> 09:24.880] handles the streams is to blame a little over here. Definitely. I guess him like Hamilton being
[09:26.000 -> 09:30.440] blame a little over here definitely I guess him like Hamilton being the top driver right now they kind of put him under the microscope and probably like
[09:30.440 -> 09:35.180] pick and choose each and every of his radio comments and like show it on the
[09:35.180 -> 09:39.180] live broadcast which which they don't do for other drivers we don't really get a
[09:39.180 -> 09:44.480] very good take on what how other drivers are like interacting with their teams
[09:44.480 -> 09:45.440] but they kind of single him out so I I think it also kind of puts this good take on what how other drivers are like interacting with their teams but
[09:51.840 -> 09:56.720] they kind of single him out so I I think it also kind of puts this perception uh in the viewer's eye that you know he's just constantly competing which he does I'm not saying he doesn't but
[09:56.720 -> 10:02.000] probably other drivers do that as well. Well that's true I mean at least at least it's gotten
[10:02.000 -> 10:07.200] better this year because the mid-pack is getting stronger and there are multiple other overtakes that happen.
[10:07.200 -> 10:11.600] So, there is still some, you know, footage that other drivers are getting.
[10:11.600 -> 10:18.800] But yeah, it feels like it is way more Hamilton dominated sport from media point of view.
[10:18.800 -> 10:19.800] Yeah.
[10:19.800 -> 10:29.920] And obviously, the whole nonsense with British media. So let's not go there. But it wasn't Merck's day yesterday, man. Like they were, they were messing up their strategies
[10:29.920 -> 10:37.120] quite a bit. Yep. Yep. I think the undercut that they tried, the second pit stop,
[10:38.160 -> 10:46.400] didn't work out in their favor at all. They put him right in the middle of the traffic. I think it was the train behind Ricardo, right?
[10:46.400 -> 10:55.040] I guess. Yeah, that P8 through later train. Yeah. I mean, he was actually, Hamilton was driving pretty
[10:55.040 -> 11:00.240] well in the second stint as compared to Verstappen. I think Verstappen had switched to hards, right?
[11:00.240 -> 11:11.000] And after the second pit stop, yeah, the hardest compound. Yeah, right. Hamilton had switched to softs, sorry, mediums, which didn't make much sense to me.
[11:11.000 -> 11:17.200] Because I think there was around 37, 38, something like that laps remaining.
[11:17.200 -> 11:25.680] And I don't think under even the best circumstances, he could have stretched those mediums till the end. So yeah, not a good
[11:25.680 -> 11:31.720] move. It smelled of desperation. And I think at that point he had already given up on the
[11:31.720 -> 11:37.440] race and they probably thought that we had to, you know, try something really offbeat
[11:37.440 -> 11:39.440] to try and get the win here.
[11:39.440 -> 11:48.800] Yeah, there was this constant two second plus delta between both of them. There was just this one moment where he was within a sub one second,
[11:48.800 -> 11:50.280] which was when like, uh,
[11:50.320 -> 11:54.120] Max overtook Botaz and then Botaz let Hamilton pass.
[11:54.520 -> 11:59.520] It was just that one lap where there was some DRS opportunity and something to
[12:00.200 -> 12:04.040] happen, but otherwise it was all, all Max, uh, throughout.
[12:05.600 -> 12:11.360] And that too actually was pretty cool. One thing that I don't know if you noticed but
[12:11.360 -> 12:16.240] when Verstappen overtook Bottas, I think that was on the main street right? Yeah. But he
[12:16.240 -> 12:21.280] had to go off line to overtake him. So he had to pick up a lot of marbles on the way
[12:21.280 -> 12:26.240] and obviously Hamilton didn't have to do that. He got to overtake on the racing line.
[12:26.680 -> 12:30.560] And I think that was also kind of a strategy play in that sense that
[12:32.240 -> 12:33.080] like, you know,
[12:33.320 -> 12:37.280] Hamilton got that advantage of having a little better tires for a while, but yeah,
[12:37.720 -> 12:39.560] Max was able to manage that brilliantly.
[12:39.960 -> 12:44.480] That also sort of like from a visual perspective for me was more like a
[12:44.480 -> 12:48.320] cartoon where it's more like, you you know you're trying to overtake but then
[12:48.560 -> 12:55.600] or you're trying to run away and then you're throwing rocks at someone behind you which is which is what it felt like because there's this one shot where
[12:56.680 -> 13:02.840] Hamilton's car was picking up all the gravel or all the stones that are coming from Max's car.
[13:03.120 -> 13:04.680] That reminds me of Speed Racer.
[13:09.920 -> 13:09.960] Yeah. Yeah. Exactly, exactly. Remember that? Yes, yes, that is what I,
[13:14.240 -> 13:15.760] yes. Yeah.
[13:19.080 -> 13:20.040] But, but, but Red Bull man, Red Bull was having a brilliant day.
[13:23.960 -> 13:29.520] Yeah. Amazing. I mean, they ticked all the boxes. I mean, Max was just brilliant. The team was
[13:29.520 -> 13:34.000] brilliant in terms of, in terms of strategy. They were brilliant in terms of the pitch stops,
[13:34.000 -> 13:39.200] except for the one pitch stop, I think, where it was just a bit slower. I think 2.7 seconds. I think
[13:39.200 -> 13:44.640] that for, for Red Bull, it's really slow. I mean, to be honest. Yeah. I mean, they got 1.88 at one point.
[13:42.560 -> 13:45.040] Red Bull, it's really slow. I mean, to be honest, yeah. I mean, they got 1.88 at one point, right?
[13:45.040 -> 13:50.760] Exactly. So, I think that was the only thing they messed up in the whole weekend.
[13:50.760 -> 13:56.280] I would say. Also, obviously the whole mess up with qualification with Perez, that aside.
[13:57.560 -> 14:00.080] Yeah. Otherwise they managed it brilliantly.
[14:00.680 -> 14:07.300] Perez, another brilliant thing that they did was, I think Perez had to take an extra engine anyways, right?
[14:07.300 -> 14:14.100] Like sometime down the line. So I think they used this opportunity to take that penalty because it made perfect sense.
[14:14.100 -> 14:18.500] Now they have got two engines to work with for the rest of the season and I think that will work out for them.
[14:23.880 -> 14:24.880] But yeah, I feel like Max was having a splendid day.
[14:32.080 -> 14:32.600] The consistency of him in that cockpit is what is now making me a fan of him
[14:35.080 -> 14:35.560] versus his aggressions going down.
[14:41.600 -> 14:42.040] I mean, if you compare it like and we were talking about this before the recording started, which is like he's 23.
[14:43.520 -> 14:43.720] He is first to win.
[14:49.120 -> 14:49.560] Probably like I guess the only Dutch driver to win on a Dutch track sort of scenario, but I might be not.
[14:53.440 -> 14:55.360] But OK, something like that, at least at least in the 30 past 30 years.
[15:01.800 -> 15:09.140] Winning in front of like an orange painted track, gaining a championship leadership. Right. And he felt, I mean, internally, he might be bubbling with all sorts of anxiety and stuff, but
[15:09.600 -> 15:15.000] on camera, he felt so calm and composed, man. Like he was breezing through it.
[15:15.100 -> 15:20.800] He's got what, like 1000 plus laps led and all of that, right?
[15:20.900 -> 15:24.000] So, yeah, I'm sort of now becoming a fan of him.
[15:24.700 -> 15:27.880] And this was also his hundred point finishes as well.
[15:28.080 -> 15:29.800] Oh wow. Which is pretty awesome. Yeah.
[15:30.040 -> 15:34.720] And now that compared to the type of celebration he's had versus
[15:34.920 -> 15:39.160] someone else not to be named, who almost killed someone else,
[15:39.880 -> 15:43.080] winning on his home Grand Prix for the nth time. I don't know,
[15:43.320 -> 15:47.120] because I've lost track now and the type of celebration he did.
[15:47.120 -> 15:51.720] So yeah, let's start, let's put on those judging caps to judge people now.
[15:53.640 -> 15:57.400] Yeah. I mean, uh, no, like, as you said, you know, uh,
[15:57.880 -> 16:02.160] I'm impressed by Max by the amount of maturity that he has these days.
[16:02.840 -> 16:06.800] Uh, he's super calm most of the times. That's what I've seen. I mean,
[16:06.880 -> 16:10.920] gone are the days when he would be pushing other drivers around.
[16:12.800 -> 16:15.480] And everyone hated him on their track sort of scenario, right?
[16:15.480 -> 16:18.680] Exactly. Yeah. I think that's no more.
[16:19.040 -> 16:23.200] He has become a lot cleaner in his overtakes as well these days.
[16:23.880 -> 16:27.920] And I think these days he doesn't have to do much of it because he's usually just leading the race anyways.
[16:28.880 -> 16:31.840] And the blue flag helps him out with any overtakes that he has to do.
[16:32.340 -> 16:34.300] So, yeah, awesome.
[16:34.300 -> 16:39.840] I have no complaints about his whole performance through this weekend.
[16:40.300 -> 16:41.760] Just flawless, insanely good.
[16:41.840 -> 16:50.320] And it felt like him, for some reason, maybe his home track or whatever, like he has nailed, he has nailed that turn three,
[16:50.600 -> 16:57.680] blurred, banked corner, man. It was just like a dance seeing him get into that turn.
[16:58.680 -> 17:09.640] Every time I saw the onboard of him taking turn three, it was so scary because when you see the on board, so if you play the game, like the F1 game anywhere, uh, the racing
[17:09.640 -> 17:14.400] line that they show on turn three is the inside line, which no driver took.
[17:15.160 -> 17:16.160] That doesn't make sense.
[17:16.160 -> 17:16.660] Yeah.
[17:16.660 -> 17:19.680] Uh, the racing line that everybody was taking was the outside one, but
[17:19.680 -> 17:26.560] they almost hit the outside apex and then come back in. And it's so scary to watch, like, you know, you're just racing
[17:27.280 -> 17:30.520] towards the barrier on a banked corner
[17:30.760 -> 17:32.720] and then you're slowing down at the same time.
[17:32.720 -> 17:34.560] And at the end moment, you're taking a turn.
[17:34.560 -> 17:37.800] Wow. That was just, you need some balls to do that for sure.
[17:38.040 -> 17:41.560] And the car dips too a bit because of the bankness, like you're going straight
[17:41.560 -> 17:43.640] and it dips a bit and then goes.
[17:43.640 -> 17:48.640] Yep. Yep. Let's let's talk about the track towards the end of the bankness like you're going straight and it dips a bit and then goes yeah let's let's talk about the track towards the end of the episode because I
[17:48.640 -> 17:52.760] think it's it's gotten it's grown on us quite a lot so folks yeah hang around at
[17:52.760 -> 17:56.260] the end of the episode we're gonna we're gonna discuss the track as well for the
[17:56.260 -> 18:04.040] first time but coming back to Red Bull Perez I think someone needs to tell him
[18:04.040 -> 18:07.200] that the only way to win is not to start last.
[18:07.200 -> 18:14.400] I think he's still hung up on his Sakhir Grand Prix where he now thinks that you have to start 20th to win the race.
[18:14.400 -> 18:22.200] Yeah, I mean, it was just crazy. At one point, I remember Perez came on the radio. He was like super pumped up.
[18:22.200 -> 18:29.760] And he's like, yeah, let yeah let's go come on who's next
[18:32.800 -> 18:36.720] did someone tell him you're still p10 so there's too many ahead of you
[18:42.080 -> 18:42.640] it was funny i think he was having a blast obviously uh so many overtakes i think
[18:46.720 -> 18:54.320] he overtook like at least half the grid or more than half. And yeah, awesome. Pretty awesome. Though, like there was this really cool statistic
[18:54.320 -> 19:00.640] that they showed on the TV in between while he was making so many overtakes. The surprising
[19:00.640 -> 19:08.040] thing to me that was that the most number of overtakes are by Wett till this season and then by Alonso and then by Perez,
[19:08.080 -> 19:13.200] which is quite surprising considering the number of times Perez has started the back.
[19:16.520 -> 19:23.760] I think Alonso has that count mainly because of his first lap, because first lap he's usually overtaking around 10 people in one shot.
[19:23.800 -> 19:26.080] He's a bullet. Yeah, he's a bullet on that lap one.
[19:27.280 -> 19:30.600] Yeah. I think so. That's why like most of his overtakes come from there,
[19:30.760 -> 19:32.360] but pretty cool statistic.
[19:32.800 -> 19:37.520] And I'm sure Perez will probably be leading this by the end of the
[19:37.560 -> 19:39.720] season if he keeps starting at the back.
[19:40.160 -> 19:42.880] Yeah. Unless someone tells him not to do that. Sure. Yeah.
[19:44.320 -> 19:46.920] Yeah, unless someone tells him not to do that. Sure. Yeah, that's what's gonna happen.
[19:52.320 -> 19:52.440] But I think he's fallen in love with that chicane at turn 11 and 12.
[19:58.040 -> 19:59.360] Because if and I'm sure FI is gonna make F1 YouTube's gonna make a video out of this whole
[20:01.520 -> 20:02.320] laps or positions gained by Perez.
[20:06.960 -> 20:07.160] And I feel like all of them are just gonna to be at the turn 11-12 chicane.
[20:09.080 -> 20:09.640] Okay, now Nikita, now this, now that.
[20:10.800 -> 20:12.080] It's going to be the same thing.
[20:13.600 -> 20:13.800] But one of them was very hilarious.
[20:19.920 -> 20:21.200] He overtook Nikita on that turn and then comes on to the radio and says, this guy is a joke.
[20:25.000 -> 20:25.040] I feel like it was a decent fight with an overtake.
[20:26.960 -> 20:27.720] Why was he a joke to you?
[20:30.680 -> 20:31.040] I think by now it's just, you know,
[20:36.040 -> 20:36.160] people do have a lot of bias against Mazipin for fair reasons,
[20:41.160 -> 20:41.720] but it's still somewhat of a bias, I would say. And I think,
[20:44.560 -> 20:49.600] I mean, we saw that throughout this weekend, right? I think during qualification as well, we saw that with, yeah, with Mick and
[20:49.600 -> 20:56.100] this guy, Mazapan having, yeah, having their shenanigans on the track with,
[20:56.260 -> 21:00.520] you know, who goes first and Vettel becoming a victim there.
[21:00.520 -> 21:04.080] Oh, let me interject here a little about Vettel.
[21:04.560 -> 21:09.520] FIA, I mean, they really need to bring in some consistency here.
[21:09.960 -> 21:12.640] Back in France,
[21:12.680 -> 21:16.760] when Vettel blocked Alonso with the exact same circumstances,
[21:16.800 -> 21:19.280] actually a little better circumstances than now,
[21:19.280 -> 21:22.200] because back then Vettel wasn't trying something really dangerous.
[21:22.600 -> 21:26.080] He was just stuck behind a line of cars that were
[21:26.080 -> 21:32.080] lining up. And Alonso came in at full racing speed. And obviously, because it's Vettel,
[21:32.080 -> 21:40.640] they decided to just throw him at the back of the grid for blocking Alonso. And these two idiots
[21:40.640 -> 21:45.440] were fighting on the track for some stupid thing like who goes first because it doesn't make
[21:45.440 -> 21:51.600] a lot of sense over here because at Zandvoort like it doesn't matter much because first of all I
[21:51.600 -> 21:57.680] don't get why going first is so important I mean yes yellow flags and things like that might help
[21:57.680 -> 22:01.920] but one car ahead doesn't really help anything because if you consider when you have like eight
[22:01.920 -> 22:06.080] cars ahead of you going one car ahead is not going to help anything.
[22:07.280 -> 22:09.720] You got to fight for that P19 position.
[22:11.800 -> 22:12.640] Exactly.
[22:12.720 -> 22:16.640] And Vettel's lap was completely ruined by these two idiots.
[22:16.720 -> 22:19.280] And there was nothing, not even a warning.
[22:19.280 -> 22:22.400] They weren't even summoned to the stewards offices. I don't get this at all.
[22:23.160 -> 22:24.520] There should be some consistency.
[22:24.560 -> 22:29.320] Either it is illegal to do that and you need to punish drivers to do that or you don't
[22:29.320 -> 22:32.080] like one of the either. It can't be both.
[22:32.080 -> 22:39.960] No, and I agree with you and I want to go a step ahead because sometimes these drivers
[22:39.960 -> 22:50.800] come on and say like, hey, it was the team's fault or whatever, right? At which at which point I'm like okay get some constructor points off of the team because at that
[22:50.800 -> 22:54.000] point you got to do what you got to do right like you can't have the driver
[22:54.000 -> 22:58.980] just blame the team and and get off the hook so sure it was the constructors
[22:58.980 -> 23:12.040] fault get them get them some points penalty there or whatever you want to do a fine or whatever. Exactly. But more than more than the whole the whole blocking sort of ruining Q2, Q3
[23:12.040 -> 23:17.600] thing, which is also fair, but I feel like there is and I hope it doesn't happen,
[23:17.600 -> 23:22.720] but I feel like there is a huge accident impending based on the way these things are
[23:22.720 -> 23:28.440] happening. And it's happened way more this season than any other season. So yeah.
[23:29.680 -> 23:33.600] Yeah. Yup. Yup. No, I mean, FIA need, I mean,
[23:33.600 -> 23:38.760] I totally agree not giving the penalties to Mick and Mazapan, don't get me wrong.
[23:38.800 -> 23:39.760] I'm happy about that.
[23:39.800 -> 23:42.360] And that's exactly what they should have done back in France as well.
[23:43.080 -> 23:45.580] But consistency has to be there.
[23:45.580 -> 23:46.580] Some form or another.
[23:46.580 -> 23:47.580] I mean, yeah.
[23:47.580 -> 23:52.960] Well, coming back to Red Bull shenanigans, or actually, you know, Red Bull doing the
[23:52.960 -> 23:53.960] fun part.
[23:53.960 -> 23:57.040] Now let's talk about Red Bull shenanigans.
[23:57.040 -> 24:01.840] What's up with the whole rumor story of everyone trying to cock block Albon?
[24:01.840 -> 24:02.840] Albon, right?
[24:02.840 -> 24:03.840] Poor kid, man.
[24:03.840 -> 24:09.480] Like his, I feel so bad for him. He, he, he seems like a really good guy.
[24:09.480 -> 24:17.200] Like he is, you know, uh, very easy to talk to. He is, uh, he is quite fast as well. Like
[24:17.200 -> 24:24.280] unfortunately he was pressurized into a very difficult situation. And, uh, yeah, I think
[24:24.280 -> 24:27.160] he didn't, he obviously wasn't able to keep up with that.
[24:27.880 -> 24:32.040] First of all, having Max as your teammate, I think, I think is becoming career
[24:32.040 -> 24:32.840] ending, isn't it?
[24:32.840 -> 24:34.320] Like it seems, it seems that way.
[24:36.200 -> 24:40.000] Or you just show that you can overtake, go back to the grid and at least, you know,
[24:40.000 -> 24:42.200] try coming fourth, fifth, sixth.
[24:42.480 -> 24:44.760] That just shows you can gain 15 positions.
[24:44.760 -> 24:45.120] That's it. Yeah. I can can gain 15 positions. That's it.
[24:47.280 -> 24:50.720] Yeah. I can't overtake Max. That's fine. I'll just overtake the rest of the field.
[24:54.080 -> 24:59.760] Yeah. But anyways, like Albon definitely deserves another chance in some team. And I really hope
[24:59.760 -> 25:05.440] with all the rumors that are going on that he might end up at Williams. But yeah, there's so much
[25:05.440 -> 25:12.240] shenanigans going on. I think Toto is trying to block Albon from getting into Williams,
[25:12.240 -> 25:18.080] stating that Williams is a customer team for Mercedes and Albon is still on a contract with
[25:18.080 -> 25:23.280] Red Bull. So he might like spy for them, which doesn't really make sense to me. How much
[25:23.280 -> 25:27.080] information the driver really has on the technical aspect of the
[25:27.080 -> 25:29.920] engine itself. Right. Like, I mean, yeah, definitely he might,
[25:30.160 -> 25:34.520] he can probably describe the, you know, what do you say? The, uh, talk,
[25:34.800 -> 25:39.760] uh, uh, what, whatever it is mapping or whatever to Red Bull as to,
[25:39.760 -> 25:42.760] you know, how talk is distributed by the engine or something like that.
[25:42.760 -> 25:44.200] But other than that,
[25:44.520 -> 25:48.920] like there's not a lot that he can actually feed back even if he wants to.
[25:49.040 -> 25:49.960] More than anything,
[25:50.960 -> 25:54.520] these guys have definitely have way good lawyers.
[25:55.000 -> 25:56.920] Get him off the Red Bull contract.
[25:56.920 -> 26:01.720] If every party involved is fine with it and then get him on a new contract,
[26:01.720 -> 26:02.800] man, come on. Yeah.
[26:06.800 -> 26:09.680] I mean, this is just complaining, right? Like contracts are,
[26:09.760 -> 26:12.320] as we have seen contracts mean nothing in F1 really.
[26:12.600 -> 26:16.280] Like we saw that with Perez right? Like he, at a drop of the hat,
[26:16.300 -> 26:20.200] they kicked him off to get Vettel in, which makes sense. I'm not, I'm not,
[26:20.320 -> 26:23.200] you know, chastising Aston Martin there, but,
[26:28.520 -> 26:28.560] but contracts don't mean anything. If you want to get a driver in some team,
[26:31.520 -> 26:33.960] you can do that. Simple as that. And also Horner, like why is he acting so holier than thou?
[26:33.960 -> 26:37.120] Like you have four seats with you. Just give one seat to Albon.
[26:37.400 -> 26:39.960] What is Sunoda doing anyways? Right. Like just kick him off.
[26:40.000 -> 26:42.120] But obviously for the Honda money,
[26:42.000 -> 26:44.000] but obviously for the Honda money bringing money
[26:44.000 -> 26:46.000] other than the Honda money
[26:46.000 -> 26:48.000] that he is getting in
[26:48.000 -> 26:50.000] what is he doing
[26:50.000 -> 26:52.000] right yeah but
[26:52.000 -> 26:54.000] whatever I hope he gets a seat
[26:54.000 -> 26:56.000] I feel like
[26:56.000 -> 26:58.000] he is gonna have a similar situation
[26:58.000 -> 27:00.000] like Pierre Gasly if he gets the
[27:00.000 -> 27:02.000] second chance so
[27:02.000 -> 27:04.000] hoping for that
[27:04.000 -> 27:05.320] also considering Williams is doing so well right second chance hoping for that.
[27:07.520 -> 27:07.680] Also considering Williams is doing so well, right?
[27:10.560 -> 27:11.160] I really hope that he gets a proper chance.
[27:14.640 -> 27:21.720] Oh, speaking about Williams, I want to talk about this. So I think we're way past my crazy assumption prediction that
[27:21.720 -> 27:22.920] Williams is going to be in points.
[27:22.920 -> 27:23.080] Right.
[27:23.080 -> 27:24.120] So we're past that.
[27:24.520 -> 27:29.480] You were this close, this close of getting Hulk as the,
[27:29.680 -> 27:34.360] as the mega sub. Yes, yes, yes. I, yeah, I was hoping for it,
[27:34.840 -> 27:39.840] but I think the news came out really quickly that Kubica is going to replace
[27:40.080 -> 27:44.160] Kimmy because Kimmy got COVID, which I still doubt very honestly.
[27:44.160 -> 27:45.400] He was on the beach, man.
[27:48.400 -> 27:55.600] But yeah, I feel like the only reason Kibitza was there was because probably he was already somewhere near Zanderwood.
[27:56.100 -> 28:01.600] Otherwise, I feel like Hulkenberg had already started driving from Germany.
[28:02.400 -> 28:03.800] It just didn't reach there in time.
[28:07.160 -> 28:12.760] But let's move on. I mean, Alpine, I want to ask you a few things about Alpine. What do you think about Alonso?
[28:12.760 -> 28:18.720] I mean, we've made the statement that he's a bullet on lap one. But yesterday was yet
[28:18.720 -> 28:28.880] another splendid performance by Alonso, man. Yeah, yeah superb, superb. I mean, amazing drive by Alonso. Alpine
[28:28.880 -> 28:35.020] suddenly seems to have gained some performance. I don't know what what's going on. But right
[28:35.020 -> 28:42.240] after like, I think, Ocon won, right, which was how many races back I think three or four
[28:42.240 -> 28:48.240] races back, right? Yeah. Ever since then then they are just doing too good. I mean,
[28:48.240 -> 28:51.360] obviously they didn't drive at Spa, but yeah,
[28:51.400 -> 28:53.160] yesterday's performance was on pure pace.
[28:53.160 -> 28:57.720] There was nothing wrong with any other team. Nobody had retired.
[28:57.920 -> 29:01.520] Nothing, which was again, surprising considering Xandu with the new retirements.
[29:01.560 -> 29:09.640] Anyways, they were there on pure pace and Alonso was making some awesome moves throughout the race.
[29:09.640 -> 29:12.880] Just too good. What are your thoughts?
[29:12.880 -> 29:27.200] Yeah, I mean, it felt even more so obvious when I think during the race start, Ocon was faster, at least on the clock, behind Alonso.
[29:27.480 -> 29:29.520] And there was this good, good overtake.
[29:29.600 -> 29:34.120] I want to say Alonso overtook Ocon, but someone will have to fact check me here.
[29:34.480 -> 29:41.080] On turn three, where Ocon took the inner line and Alonso took the outer line and he overtook him there.
[29:41.640 -> 29:43.720] No, so I know what you're talking about.
[29:43.720 -> 29:47.760] So Ocon was trying an overtake on Alonzo, but that failed because, uh,
[29:47.840 -> 29:48.360] yeah.
[29:49.600 -> 29:52.920] Yeah. But it was good to see like both Alpines on turn three there.
[29:54.120 -> 29:56.000] For a second, I thought that they might just crash.
[29:58.680 -> 30:00.880] That turn is very deceptive to be very,
[30:02.320 -> 30:06.000] but Ocon comes onto the radio and says, hey, I'm faster than Alonzo.
[30:06.000 -> 30:08.000] Someone tells that to Alonzo,
[30:08.000 -> 30:09.000] hey, Okon's faster than you.
[30:09.000 -> 30:11.000] And Alonzo goes,
[30:11.000 -> 30:13.000] oh, you want me to drive faster?
[30:13.000 -> 30:14.000] Just tell me that.
[30:14.000 -> 30:15.000] And then he guns.
[30:15.000 -> 30:17.000] So at that point, the funny part was like,
[30:17.000 -> 30:19.000] at that point, the delta between both of them was like,
[30:19.000 -> 30:21.000] I want to say like a second or tenths of a second
[30:21.000 -> 30:22.000] or something like that.
[30:22.000 -> 30:28.380] And then as soon as Alonzo gets this message, a few laps down, he has a six second lead on Ocon.
[30:28.380 -> 30:33.380] So, but yeah, it's so much fun seeing Alonzo there.
[30:34.340 -> 30:37.140] I hope it's more like a mentor-mentee relation
[30:37.140 -> 30:39.580] between the two, but at times it feels
[30:39.580 -> 30:40.980] like a father-son relationship.
[30:40.980 -> 30:42.940] So I'm just gonna throw it out there.
[30:44.220 -> 30:46.720] Yeah, I think that Alonzo
[30:46.720 -> 30:49.960] probably forgot that he was racing and then the engineer had to remind him that
[30:49.960 -> 30:57.520] hey hey you're racing drive faster. Yeah I mean I think how many I gained like
[30:57.520 -> 31:02.680] four or five or some some positions there it was just both of both Okon and
[31:02.680 -> 31:06.640] Alonzo have have gotten so much good in that Alpine.
[31:06.640 -> 31:10.720] I think Alpine, as you said, totally true is maturing as well.
[31:12.000 -> 31:15.640] There's something that I forget, like there was an interesting radio message from Alonso
[31:15.920 -> 31:17.440] towards the end of the race as well.
[31:17.520 -> 31:18.080] Something.
[31:19.040 -> 31:19.520] Oh, yeah.
[31:20.720 -> 31:26.200] I remember that. So I think towards the end of the race, Alonso was on the last lap, I think.
[31:26.200 -> 31:29.200] And obviously the stadium had gone crazy.
[31:29.200 -> 31:30.200] Oh yeah, yeah.
[31:30.200 -> 31:34.200] Max won. There was just orange smoke everywhere.
[31:34.200 -> 31:40.200] And he comes on the radio and says that I think that Max won because there's smoke everywhere on the track.
[31:40.200 -> 31:47.000] Oh dude, you gotta say this. You were telling me about this tweet or this Insta post from
[31:47.000 -> 31:51.280] someone right about how there was this party going on on Zandvoort.
[31:51.280 -> 32:00.080] Oh yeah. I forget who it was, but basically the essence of it was that, you know, it felt
[32:00.080 -> 32:06.260] like it was, you know, how much of a long the track is that many miles long
[32:06.260 -> 32:12.340] party you know the racing cars are just a minor inconvenience for them which
[32:12.340 -> 32:18.060] really felt that way very honestly yeah it was insane I think the whole
[32:18.060 -> 32:23.660] atmosphere at Zandvoort was just crazy right yeah just a sea of orange
[32:23.660 -> 32:25.680] everywhere first you've got these cars roaring of orange everywhere first you've got these
[32:25.680 -> 32:32.240] cars roaring on top of that you've got these people roaring and on top of that
[32:32.240 -> 32:39.320] you can't see anything because there's all orange on the track but but yeah it
[32:39.320 -> 32:44.040] was just exhilarating to see you know this this this I've never seen this
[32:44.040 -> 32:47.120] amount of support anywhere man like even
[32:47.800 -> 32:49.800] Ricardo doesn't get it in Australia
[32:50.400 -> 32:52.400] Hamilton I don't care
[32:53.160 -> 32:56.240] Nobody even he doesn't get this much this much
[32:57.840 -> 33:04.760] German drivers also I don't think I remember like this crazy support and it's not just Zandvoort right like these guys come at
[33:07.680 -> 33:08.360] Belgium they come at Austria, they come everywhere.
[33:15.440 -> 33:15.720] They treat so many. So the funny thing is like this, everybody has got their own singular home race, right?
[33:25.280 -> 33:25.600] Like Hamilton has UK, Ricardo has Australia, but Max has multiple, like he has got Austria, he's got Belgium. Yeah. He's got Zandvoort.
[33:26.680 -> 33:27.480] Like, wow. Like it's insane.
[33:27.480 -> 33:28.920] His fans are just crazy.
[33:28.920 -> 33:33.320] I think it's not just his, in general, Dutch people are really crazy about this
[33:33.320 -> 33:33.820] sports.
[33:34.040 -> 33:35.320] Think about anything, right?
[33:35.360 -> 33:36.280] Like FIFA as well.
[33:36.280 -> 33:41.840] Like, yeah, you know what happens when Netherlands is there in the finals.
[33:44.600 -> 33:49.200] So yeah, it was just awesome. The crowd went crazy. They were loving
[33:49.200 -> 33:55.120] it every moment of it. Obviously, I think the Royal family was also present there for, though
[33:55.120 -> 34:08.280] I don't really care about the Royal families of any country at all, but yeah, whatever, they were there. And not just that, I think the crowd did behave in
[34:08.280 -> 34:15.960] general, because if you consider the previous race at Spa, when the race
[34:16.000 -> 34:21.760] air quotes that happened right after that, when we had the podium celebrations
[34:22.760 -> 34:30.440] and the interviews, I think a lot of the crowd was booing Hamilton, which I don't really get, which is just shameful and stupid and immature.
[34:31.720 -> 34:42.320] Yeah, I mean, we and both of us also are not avid Hamilton liking people as well. But at the end of the day, you shouldn't boo a driver, man.
[34:46.480 -> 34:52.720] of the day you shouldn't boo a driver man. Yeah I mean yeah that's just stupid and especially like a driver like Hamilton like no matter what like yeah he does complain a lot a lot of times he
[34:52.720 -> 34:57.680] you know he has his flaws I mean I'm not gonna list all of them but he is still an amazing driver
[34:57.680 -> 35:03.360] he has won seven world championships like it's not a joke like you know it's I don't get the
[35:03.360 -> 35:07.840] mentality of booing at all it makes no sense the only thing
[35:07.840 -> 35:12.320] that you're proving by booing that is that you are immature that's it like I don't understand
[35:12.960 -> 35:20.320] but yeah the crowd here was very supportive of Hamilton as well and they cheered him as well
[35:20.320 -> 35:29.600] just as much as almost as much as the cheered for Hamilton I mean for Max which I was happy to see very honestly and yeah that that was pretty
[35:29.600 -> 35:36.400] cool yeah man and and I mean at least I feel like Boeing still a mild version I
[35:36.400 -> 35:42.320] mean I as much as I dislike Hamilton sometimes he gets this racist hate as
[35:42.320 -> 35:45.040] well come on grow up people.
[35:47.120 -> 35:51.000] Anyways, anyways, anyways, I mean, I guess like the crowd was also exciting
[35:51.160 -> 35:54.920] yesterday because of all the overtakes because I think like, see,
[35:56.040 -> 36:00.760] just before the long straight, you have, you know, the chicane not too far.
[36:01.160 -> 36:04.160] Right. So that's one huge overtaking point.
[36:04.760 -> 36:09.800] And to my surprise yesterday, that turn one right hand,
[36:10.200 -> 36:13.560] everyone was taking that outside line to do these overtakes, man.
[36:13.560 -> 36:17.880] It was just brilliant to watch. Yeah. It was surprising. Really surprising. Yeah.
[36:18.560 -> 36:22.560] It was too good to watch that. And, uh, overall,
[36:22.560 -> 36:29.680] I think the crowd had incredible views of these cars because do you remember the last banking turn?
[36:29.680 -> 36:31.520] Right. I forget what the turn number is.
[36:32.120 -> 36:33.840] Just before the start finish line.
[36:34.760 -> 36:44.640] That one, especially because there's a grandstand right in the middle of that turn and it faces the turn and the camera angles that they were showing.
[36:44.680 -> 36:46.480] Wow. Like the cars are going
[36:46.480 -> 36:53.200] like at a angle because it is banked and these people can exactly see the whole car but they
[36:53.200 -> 36:58.000] generally can't when the cars are going flat so I'm pretty sure that I really do want to look at
[36:58.000 -> 37:02.640] some footage that people might have captured from that stadium like that grandstand I'm sure it
[37:02.640 -> 37:08.400] would be pretty awesome yeah yeah yeah yeah and I mean the way this track is designed too, I guess like
[37:08.400 -> 37:12.120] there are definitely some stands which have a good vantage point.
[37:12.120 -> 37:16.120] I'm pretty sure like probably that bank turn has a view to the right
[37:16.120 -> 37:20.080] going a few turns to the right and then they can also probably see the main straight
[37:20.080 -> 37:23.320] onto their left. So yeah, yeah.
[37:23.320 -> 37:26.000] So let's talk about the track in that case
[37:26.000 -> 37:30.440] I mean this track we were talking about this before we started recording as well
[37:30.440 -> 37:32.800] like we've started liking this track
[37:32.800 -> 37:36.640] the banks and the dynamics of the track are really nice
[37:36.640 -> 37:39.680] it's just flowing like this track
[37:39.680 -> 37:43.200] it feels like a river like it's you know each
[37:43.200 -> 37:50.000] like this whole track has some cohesion to it as such. Each corner flows
[37:50.000 -> 37:58.560] into the other. I was talking about this while watching the race that I don't really understand
[37:58.560 -> 38:02.680] how are these drivers making any adjustments to the car, to what their engineers are saying
[38:02.680 -> 38:05.360] because there's absolutely no place
[38:05.360 -> 38:10.640] on the track except for the main straight where you have some time to relax like it's just one
[38:10.640 -> 38:18.560] turn after another. Boom, boom, boom. Yeah, that's it right. Yeah, it was pretty awesome and the whole elevation
[38:18.560 -> 38:26.360] changes, the banking just adds to everything. Even though the track is quite narrow, like people I think
[38:26.360 -> 38:33.360] were expecting a very boring race, like something like Monaco, but no, that didn't happen. We
[38:33.360 -> 38:36.400] did see a lot of overtakes, which was quite good.
[38:36.400 -> 38:41.720] Yeah, I mean, you're right. It did feel like everyone's just going to keep going in circles
[38:41.720 -> 38:45.760] one after the other, but there was some fun happening there.
[38:47.440 -> 38:50.280] And I think the drivers themselves personally love the track.
[38:50.600 -> 38:51.640] That's what it seemed like.
[38:52.160 -> 38:52.760] Definitely.
[38:52.760 -> 39:07.920] Like, in fact, Hamilton also said this in his post-race interview that, you know, it was one of the best tracks he has driven on and he had a lot of fun and he definitely wants to get back here because just because how fun the track is to
[39:07.920 -> 39:08.740] drive on.
[39:08.800 -> 39:12.920] I guess another thing that he had mentioned was like when, uh, at the point
[39:12.920 -> 39:16.280] where he knew he had lost the race and then he went for the fastest lap by
[39:16.280 -> 39:21.400] pitting, he said that the, that last lap of his was the most fun he has had in
[39:21.400 -> 39:29.120] the whole race because like there was one lap and then the track is so awesome that he just had to give it all and like nothing to lose.
[39:29.120 -> 39:30.120] Yeah.
[39:30.120 -> 39:31.120] Yeah.
[39:31.120 -> 39:32.120] Yeah.
[39:32.120 -> 39:48.320] I think everyone and also away from using that term,
[39:48.640 -> 39:52.840] but Vettel's like a dog who needs to pee to mark his spot.
[39:53.160 -> 39:57.280] He needs to spin on every track to mark his spot. Like, okay, I was here.
[39:57.320 -> 40:00.200] At least once. Yes. At least once. So,
[40:01.720 -> 40:05.640] Oh man. As soon as I saw that, I could imagine all the memes flooding.
[40:07.720 -> 40:11.920] And then the new one that started is like the list keeps going on. He,
[40:12.600 -> 40:16.960] he's like a Vettel as a driver, as a protector,
[40:16.960 -> 40:19.960] as a, as a drifter. And like now,
[40:20.520 -> 40:27.320] exact inspector. It's just adding to the list at every race.
[40:27.320 -> 40:34.280] I think it was Crofty as well, I think who mentioned this, that yes, then we have a metal
[40:34.280 -> 40:37.280] spinner at turn 3.
[40:37.280 -> 40:38.280] Oh man.
[40:38.280 -> 40:39.280] He got stupid.
[40:39.280 -> 40:45.840] Yeah, I mean, he had a terrible race, like starting from qualification itself.
[40:45.840 -> 40:48.000] Like I think he had given up by the end of it.
[40:49.080 -> 40:54.280] But still, he managed to reach right up till Stroll, which is really awesome.
[40:54.640 -> 40:58.000] I mean, considering where he started, he spun once as well
[40:58.880 -> 41:01.440] and still caught up with Stroll, which is pretty awesome.
[41:01.440 -> 41:03.840] He's been doing brilliantly at Aston Martin this time.
[41:04.120 -> 41:10.240] Yeah, yeah. Double podium. I mean, I still consider Hungary as his podium. Sure, they didn't give it to him.
[41:10.240 -> 41:16.160] Whatever. But yeah, I mean, the team messed up, but complete credit to Vettel for getting that podium.
[41:16.160 -> 41:19.920] I mean, in my eyes, he did win it, even if he didn't get the points for it. So yeah.
[41:21.120 -> 41:25.000] Back to Zandervoort and Dutch in general, I think like, not that,
[41:25.000 -> 41:31.000] not just Dutch have respect for the team players and even if it's a rival,
[41:31.000 -> 41:37.000] but like, yeah, they just keep proving again and again how environmental friendly and conscious they are as well.
[41:37.000 -> 41:45.880] Right. Like the bike capital of the world. But there was an interesting ticketing system that they were doing with the recycling of cops, right?
[41:46.600 -> 41:49.480] One point which I noticed was like when they,
[41:49.760 -> 41:53.040] in the opening shots of the race, when they like show the entire track,
[41:54.480 -> 41:57.440] they had a dedicated parking lot for bikes,
[41:57.480 -> 42:00.920] which I've never seen on any other track before. And it was huge.
[42:02.880 -> 42:04.680] So it was really awesome to see that.
[42:04.680 -> 42:06.920] Like so many people had arrived on bikes over
[42:06.920 -> 42:07.760] there.
[42:08.280 -> 42:12.680] It's it's the biking capital of the world. And I, I, I so love that, you know,
[42:12.680 -> 42:14.800] they take it that seriously, man.
[42:15.160 -> 42:18.960] I love that country for, for what they do with the environment consciousness.
[42:19.520 -> 42:22.680] Yeah. But, uh, yeah. As you mentioned, right. The token system that.
[42:22.680 -> 42:28.000] Yeah, dude, explain, explain the, the cupping, the, the token system that you had. Yeah, dude, explain the cupping, the cup system or whatever the whole...
[42:28.000 -> 42:35.000] Let's redo this. Explain the recycling cup zero waste system there.
[42:35.000 -> 42:51.280] Right. So, I think they had some token system this time at the stadium, where at the start of the race everybody would receive a token and anytime you want to buy a drink and you get a plastic cup you have to give the token in exchange
[42:51.280 -> 42:56.120] of the cup you have to hold on to the cup till the end of the race or like if you want to have
[42:56.120 -> 43:01.480] another drink like give the cup back to the vendors and you know they'll give you a new cup
[43:01.480 -> 43:06.240] so that way they avoided people from throwing the cups away
[43:06.240 -> 43:11.440] into the garbage. They were able to recycle them. And as an incentive for the people to actually
[43:11.440 -> 43:15.920] hold on to the token, there were two incentives. One was negative and one was positive. One was
[43:15.920 -> 43:21.280] that we had to pay more money to get new cups. And the second was, if you have the token at the end
[43:21.280 -> 43:27.240] of the race, you are entered into a lucky draw for, uh, for some prizes, which, which is a pretty awesome thing.
[43:28.040 -> 43:31.880] And by the end of it, we could see that the whole stadium was very clean and
[43:31.880 -> 43:35.760] there was almost no trash anywhere as compared to Belgium. If you had seen,
[43:36.160 -> 43:39.320] it was, it was like a landfill. It was just insane.
[43:39.360 -> 43:42.120] That was painful. That was painful. A,
[43:42.120 -> 43:47.000] we didn't have a race and then two the cleaners had to do twice the amount of work.
[43:47.000 -> 43:49.000] Exactly. Yeah.
[43:49.000 -> 43:52.000] I mean, even Betyu could go home early.
[43:52.000 -> 44:12.600] Exactly. Yeah. But yeah, this track, I love it. I really want this to be on the calendar every year just awesome to watch these cars go on the track it's just insane Wow loved it. I guess now
[44:12.600 -> 44:18.780] there's there's a two-point lead on the championship it would have been
[44:18.780 -> 44:23.300] interesting if Botas would have won or anyone else would have won and then Max
[44:23.300 -> 44:26.400] P2 Hamilton P3 and they would have tied for the championship it would have won or anyone else would have won and then Max P2 Hamilton P3 and they
[44:26.400 -> 44:30.040] would have tied for the championship it would have been more dramatic but I guess
[44:30.040 -> 44:34.360] there's still room for it there's still room for it right yeah yeah two points
[44:34.360 -> 44:47.480] separate these two it's it's getting tighter by the race Monza Mercks have had their fair bit of advantage through the years.
[44:47.760 -> 44:51.800] So yeah, I'm probably hoping Potas wins.
[44:52.240 -> 44:53.480] Hamilton can be P3.
[44:54.240 -> 44:55.320] One last hurrah, right?
[44:55.320 -> 44:59.400] Like for him, I really hope he wins at least one base, you know, before
[44:59.840 -> 45:01.480] finishing his career with Mercedes.
[45:01.520 -> 45:03.600] I mean, he is a good driver.
[45:03.600 -> 45:06.800] He gets a lot of unwarranted hate. Like I am part of it.
[45:06.800 -> 45:16.320] But I do feel bad for him as well at the same time. And I really hope that he wins at least one more race before the end of the season.
[45:16.320 -> 45:26.520] Yep, man. Yep. And he takes away as many points from Hamilton as he can. So that backs us a free rein but on that note this was an
[45:26.520 -> 45:32.840] amazing race amazing track we hope these guys keep coming here way more in the
[45:32.840 -> 45:38.160] future and these older narrower fighting tight tracks keep coming back because
[45:38.160 -> 45:47.000] it's so much fun watching these races and until Monza this is F1 Fan Fiction signing off.