Podcast: F1 Fanfiction
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The 2021 British GP gave us a lot to discuss about! Max had a horrible 51G crash! Hamilton who caused the crash went ahead to win the race even with a 10 Second time penalty! If the Championship battle was heating up earlier, we think it just went Nuclear after this weekend. The Gloves are off between Max and Lewis.
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Intro: Howling (Sting) - Gunnar Olsen
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**The Race:**
* The British Grand Prix, held at Silverstone, was a highly anticipated event that delivered plenty of drama and excitement.
* The race weekend introduced a new format with sprint qualifying, which determined the starting grid for the main race.
* Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton had an intense battle for the lead, with both drivers pushing the limits.
* Verstappen crashed out of the race on the first lap after a collision with Hamilton, resulting in a 51G impact.
* Hamilton went on to win the race despite receiving a 10-second time penalty for causing the collision.
**Key Moments and Controversies:**
* The incident between Verstappen and Hamilton sparked a heated debate about who was at fault.
* Hamilton's post-race celebration was criticized for being excessive and disrespectful considering Verstappen's crash.
* Charles Leclerc displayed remarkable resilience and skill, driving with an engine issue to secure a podium finish.
* The British media, particularly commentator David Croft, faced criticism for their perceived bias towards Hamilton.
* The red flag procedure and the need for reviewing time penalties were brought into question.
**Analysis and Insights:**
* The sprint qualifying format added an extra layer of excitement to the weekend but also raised concerns about its impact on the main race.
* The incident between Verstappen and Hamilton highlighted the subjective nature of penalty decisions in Formula One.
* Hamilton's behavior after the race, including his lack of concern for Verstappen's well-being, drew criticism and damaged his reputation.
* Leclerc's performance demonstrated his potential as a future championship contender.
* The British media's apparent bias towards Hamilton raised questions about impartiality in sports commentary.
The 2021 British Grand Prix was a thrilling and controversial race that had fans and experts alike buzzing. From the high-speed crash between Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton to the subsequent red flag and time penalty, there was no shortage of drama and talking points. In this summary, we will delve into the key moments of the race, analyze the controversies, and provide insights into the broader implications for the Formula One championship battle.
### The Crash: A Controversial Incident
The race's defining moment occurred on the opening lap when Hamilton and Verstappen collided at Copse Corner. Verstappen was attempting to overtake Hamilton on the inside, but Hamilton held his line, resulting in a high-speed crash that sent Verstappen's car airborne and into the barriers. The impact registered a staggering 51G force, highlighting the severity of the incident.
### The Red Flag and Time Penalty
The crash brought out the red flag, halting the race and allowing teams to repair their cars. This decision proved to be crucial for Hamilton, as it gave Mercedes the opportunity to fix the damage to his car, which included a cracked rim and a damaged front wing.
Following the restart, Hamilton received a 10-second time penalty for causing the collision. However, this penalty proved to be insufficient as Hamilton was able to maintain his lead and ultimately win the race. This decision sparked controversy, with many arguing that the penalty was too lenient given the severity of the crash and the potential consequences for Verstappen.
### The Controversy: Unfair Advantage and Biased Commentary
The post-race discussions were dominated by debates about the fairness of the penalty and the perceived bias of the commentators. Many fans and experts felt that Hamilton had gained an unfair advantage by being able to repair his car during the red flag period. Additionally, there were accusations of bias towards Hamilton from some commentators, particularly from the British media.
### The Impact on the Championship Battle
The outcome of the British Grand Prix has significantly intensified the championship battle between Hamilton and Verstappen. With just a few races remaining in the season, the two drivers are now separated by only eight points, setting the stage for a thrilling conclusion to the title fight.
### Calls for Change: Time Penalties and Red Flag Procedures
The controversy surrounding the British Grand Prix has prompted calls for changes to the rules regarding time penalties and red flag procedures. Many believe that the current system is inadequate and allows drivers who cause accidents to escape with minimal consequences.
### Conclusion
The 2021 British Grand Prix was a race that will be remembered for its drama, controversy, and implications for the championship battle. The incident between Hamilton and Verstappen highlighted the need for a review of the penalty system and red flag procedures. As the season reaches its climax, fans can expect more intense racing and heightened tensions as the two title contenders push their limits in pursuit of the Formula One crown.
[00:00.000 -> 00:06.880] It's been one of those memes where you have someone holding a kid who's just
[00:06.880 -> 00:10.800] trying to stay afloat. That's Hamilton. Then you have someone who's almost
[00:10.800 -> 00:14.880] drowning. That's poor Max. And then you have someone at the bottom who's
[00:14.880 -> 00:19.760] completely gone. That's poor Leclerc.
[00:22.640 -> 00:30.800] Hello and welcome back to yet another episode with F1 Fan Fiction. We are your hosts. I am
[00:30.800 -> 00:40.280] Akash and I'm Saran and you know this week's gonna be a hot debated topic on the Silverstone
[00:40.280 -> 00:46.680] Grand Prix. Fair warning there's definitely definitely going to be explicit, you know,
[00:46.680 -> 00:51.160] words being spoken, some hateful comments, maybe here and there too.
[00:52.040 -> 00:58.240] Promise not to be racist, because we, F1 Fan Fiction, definitely condemn that.
[00:58.600 -> 01:00.760] We do not stand with racism.
[01:00.760 -> 01:05.160] While we may hate what happened on the track, there's no room
[01:05.160 -> 01:11.600] for racism. So definitely do not support any racism but no promises on being not
[01:11.600 -> 01:17.140] being hateful because there's plenty of that. With that said, let's get into it.
[01:17.140 -> 01:23.760] Well this time I think FI was trying something new right with different races.
[01:23.760 -> 01:26.960] So yeah I don't know.
[01:26.960 -> 01:29.040] What's your feeling about it?
[01:29.040 -> 01:37.880] You know what I think like Saturday once it was over, I was in that mindset where if someone
[01:37.880 -> 01:40.720] convinced me enough, I would have changed sides.
[01:40.720 -> 01:46.280] But being a long standing fan of and a viewer of this sport, yeah,
[01:46.320 -> 01:50.720] it seems very icky to me to have this change.
[01:51.480 -> 01:55.240] But Saturday I liked it. But I feel like, you know,
[01:55.240 -> 01:57.880] and we were talking about this before we started recording this,
[01:57.880 -> 02:02.600] like it probably ruined the whole Sunday experience and made this
[02:03.080 -> 02:06.000] Sunday race the most boring race of the weekend.
[02:06.720 -> 02:12.360] Yeah, definitely. I think like sprint race on paper feels like a good thing,
[02:12.920 -> 02:17.920] at least to somebody who is a casual watcher of the sport.
[02:19.440 -> 02:22.720] Because yeah, definitely it's fun. I mean, the race was fun.
[02:22.760 -> 02:28.080] The 17 lap race was a lot of fun. I loved it. But as we said, you know, it was something like a trailer.
[02:28.080 -> 02:30.600] You know, the first thing that comes to my mind is like, you know,
[02:30.600 -> 02:33.000] these days how these trailers are for most of the movies,
[02:33.360 -> 02:37.440] you pretty much get the entire story of the movie in the trailer itself.
[02:37.440 -> 02:39.520] And that's exactly what the sprint race was.
[02:39.520 -> 02:42.320] So I feel it took away a lot from the race.
[02:42.640 -> 02:46.680] And what, what essentially happened is like, uh, earlier on,
[02:46.680 -> 02:48.360] like with the standard format,
[02:48.400 -> 02:52.400] you have some opportunity that the grid gets mixed up because something that
[02:52.400 -> 02:54.240] happened in qualification and you know,
[02:54.240 -> 02:58.080] some driver who pulls off a really good lap in, in a worse car.
[02:58.360 -> 03:01.880] And that way they do get some advantage, you know, specifically speaking,
[03:01.880 -> 03:09.360] Mr. Saturday, you know, George Russell, uh, who, who is kind of known to do that. But because of the race,
[03:09.920 -> 03:13.360] it so happened that the grid was basically sorted by race pace.
[03:13.360 -> 03:16.520] And then you knew what's going to happen because everybody,
[03:16.720 -> 03:18.720] everybody had enough data about the other team,
[03:18.760 -> 03:22.800] as well as their own cars that they knew where they would approximately end up.
[03:23.000 -> 03:28.200] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Although Mr. Saturday was Mr. Friday this weekend.
[03:28.200 -> 03:34.080] What a stunning qualifying. I think like, what, P7 or P6 or something like is way up there.
[03:34.080 -> 03:40.840] And just splendid to see him there. But I think Alonso called it, I think like Q4.
[03:40.840 -> 03:45.800] Was it Alonso? Someone called it Q4 and now I sort of agree with it
[03:45.800 -> 03:52.440] because it was in a fashion that. The trailer usually these days are the best
[03:52.440 -> 03:58.200] part of the movie and the whole two hours is usually not good given in this
[03:58.200 -> 04:03.400] too much content driven world which is essentially what ended up happening for
[04:03.400 -> 04:07.320] me. Yeah it was one of the most boring races for the season for me, for sure.
[04:07.320 -> 04:09.600] Except the main events which we'll come to.
[04:09.600 -> 04:12.640] But, yeah, otherwise it was boring.
[04:12.640 -> 04:16.920] Yeah, right up till after Saturday, I was quite excited.
[04:16.920 -> 04:19.000] Like the sprint race was awesome.
[04:19.000 -> 04:20.440] And I was like, wow, this is awesome.
[04:20.440 -> 04:24.760] But then soon when the race, like apart from the first lap,
[04:24.760 -> 04:27.000] the entire race was really,
[04:27.000 -> 04:31.500] really boring and there was nothing happening, not even in the midfield because all the cars
[04:31.500 -> 04:32.500] were sorted.
[04:32.500 -> 04:36.360] So yeah, there was no chance for anything going anywhere.
[04:36.360 -> 04:48.640] I think the only big fights or competitions that were going on probably throughout the race were the leaders trying to overlap with the backmarkers
[04:48.640 -> 04:51.640] and so-called midfield.
[04:51.640 -> 04:55.360] That's the only contentions I can think of.
[04:55.360 -> 04:55.960] That's true.
[04:55.960 -> 04:57.400] But I guess, yeah.
[04:57.400 -> 04:57.960] No, go ahead.
[04:57.960 -> 05:03.040] I'm glad that FIA is not shoving this down our throats directly.
[05:03.040 -> 05:14.880] This is just kind of a trial. And looking at the moves that Liberty Media has been doing recently, I have some faith in them that they are actually looking out for the good of the sport.
[05:14.880 -> 05:21.440] So, yeah. I don't think they will rush into it and take a harsh decision about it.
[05:21.440 -> 05:27.680] I think it's good to try out new things and yeah if it works keep it otherwise crap it. So yeah.
[05:27.680 -> 05:32.560] Really and probably as so this is just the first one there's two more to go
[05:32.560 -> 05:38.400] maybe that experience on the Sunday is gonna be a bit different someone else
[05:38.400 -> 05:47.000] gets punted out so. I think we need to address you know the elephant in the room now.
[05:47.000 -> 05:57.000] Yeah, yeah but before getting there right like let's take it the way it happened right before pouring our thoughts in.
[05:57.000 -> 06:06.400] Lights out, there's a good start that Max gets as usual. I mean, he's definitely the king of starts now.
[06:06.400 -> 06:09.160] And I've said this before, but he's totally the king of starts.
[06:09.160 -> 06:13.360] Hamilton's obviously had good pace on this track throughout the years.
[06:13.360 -> 06:17.720] And so, does he on this Sunday as well.
[06:17.720 -> 06:20.520] They also had that major upgrade for their rear wing.
[06:20.520 -> 06:22.600] So, that's giving him that advantage.
[06:22.600 -> 06:27.560] There's a good contention going into that first turn. Both are aggressive.
[06:27.600 -> 06:29.520] I wouldn't call anyone aggressive at this point.
[06:29.560 -> 06:34.000] Both are aggressive trying to get that first position right from the start.
[06:34.840 -> 06:39.080] Four turns in, they're battling it out, right and left.
[06:40.120 -> 06:44.680] And it was proper spicy battle, right? Amazing racing.
[06:45.100 -> 06:48.100] While watching that, I was like, you know, this is, this is it.
[06:48.100 -> 06:50.900] This is the best thing, you know, ever in this world.
[06:51.300 -> 06:53.500] I want to watch this throughout the day.
[06:55.000 -> 07:01.400] And both being very cautious, very smart, experience pouring in, amazing battle going on.
[07:01.900 -> 07:05.000] Until that right turn, when we see the incident,
[07:05.440 -> 07:09.080] Max is thrown off or Max is,
[07:09.640 -> 07:12.280] I still want to, I still don't want to say what happened,
[07:12.300 -> 07:17.120] but in the sense like Max is onto the gravels at 180 miles per hour,
[07:18.160 -> 07:22.360] into the wall with 51 G's force. And we are just fingers crossed,
[07:22.360 -> 07:31.120] hoping he jumps out. So that's what happened. And a little context to you know listeners who probably I'm pretty
[07:31.120 -> 07:35.880] sure most of everyone has like looked at the incident a hundred times by now but
[07:35.880 -> 07:39.760] for those who haven't let me just give you a short overview of what happened.
[07:39.760 -> 07:47.440] Basically like they were going as you as you said, you know, at almost 180 miles per hour into turn nine, that's cops.
[07:47.760 -> 07:50.320] And that's a, you know, a proper fast corner.
[07:50.320 -> 07:51.840] It's like a medium fast corner.
[07:52.200 -> 07:56.560] And I think probably it's, I could probably say it's the fastest corner in the calendar.
[07:56.560 -> 07:56.880] Yeah.
[07:58.200 -> 08:03.480] And yeah, that is one of the, you know, more difficult places to take, you know,
[08:03.480 -> 08:07.440] complete an overtake just because the speeds that you're
[08:07.440 -> 08:12.240] going into and it's a unique corner in the sense that you have two lines in there. One is the
[08:12.240 -> 08:17.200] inside line which Hamilton was taking where you have to hit the apex of the corner to be able to
[08:18.160 -> 08:32.500] maximize your speed through it and the outer line which Max was taking where you first stick to the outside and then bring your car inside to just hit the late apex of the corner so that you carry more speed after that.
[08:32.500 -> 08:40.200] Considering the upgrades that Hamilton had gotten for the low downforce upgrades that Mercedes bought in this time,
[08:40.200 -> 08:45.200] he definitely had an advantage over Max in the straights.
[08:45.200 -> 08:53.200] So right after, on the hanger straight, Hamilton got a really good slipstream.
[08:53.200 -> 08:57.440] He came inside. Max tried to push him a little into the wall.
[08:57.440 -> 09:07.280] That was a fair defense because you're allowed to do that when you're ahead. Hamilton decided not to back off. He stapled,
[09:07.760 -> 09:12.720] he tried to carry a lot of speed. And if you look at the footage,
[09:12.960 -> 09:17.040] it is very clear that he was under steering. Like his,
[09:18.040 -> 09:22.120] his steering wheel was at complete maximum lock that he couldn't, you know,
[09:22.440 -> 09:25.440] he couldn't turn the wheel anymore than that where he was at.
[09:26.080 -> 09:31.080] So it was very clear that he was carrying a lot more speed than his car was able
[09:31.080 -> 09:34.520] to carry into the corner. And yeah, and that's where they made contact.
[09:34.960 -> 09:38.520] Right. Right. From a viewing point of view, you know,
[09:38.520 -> 09:43.520] it feels like somewhat of a T-bone in the sense that Max's
[09:44.280 -> 09:47.540] car was, was following the race line
[09:47.540 -> 09:53.500] going on to the outer curbs after the turn whereas Hamilton was more straighter
[09:53.500 -> 09:57.820] than he should have been while taking the turn and it seems like he's just
[09:57.820 -> 10:02.260] trying to run into Max but you're right like technically he was just under
[10:02.260 -> 10:08.180] steering that he probably wasn't able to control that. And yeah, he was just too much fast into that turn.
[10:08.520 -> 10:13.480] Now the place where all the anger comes in is first,
[10:13.480 -> 10:18.360] his first statement was, at least for me, was, I was ahead.
[10:19.200 -> 10:21.360] Right. That's, that's where it all started off.
[10:21.440 -> 10:23.640] I was ahead and he didn't give me any room.
[10:25.280 -> 10:28.600] In even in a fiction, Marvel, DC, whatever universe,
[10:28.600 -> 10:31.960] Spongebob universe you want to call it. If you are ahead,
[10:32.400 -> 10:37.160] how does your front left hit someone's rear right? Okay.
[10:37.600 -> 10:41.680] All right. So that's, that's one. Two, it then got, you know,
[10:42.080 -> 10:42.920] lowered down to,
[10:42.920 -> 10:46.800] they were side by side and you are supposed to leave room
[10:47.160 -> 10:49.000] when you are side by side. Okay.
[10:49.040 -> 10:51.480] You are supposed to leave room when you are side by side.
[10:51.840 -> 10:56.400] Then why did Norris and Perez
[10:56.440 -> 11:00.560] get the penalties in the last race when they were on the inside lane? Right.
[11:00.560 -> 11:04.120] Why were they at fault? So in my books, this is,
[11:04.120 -> 11:07.500] this is textbook Hamilton fault,
[11:07.500 -> 11:13.500] but I still want to call it somewhat of a racing incident because it's subjective.
[11:13.500 -> 11:25.440] And for all the listeners, you know, both Sarang and I have a big opinion on how penalties should be given on the subjectiveness which will come to
[11:25.440 -> 11:31.640] towards the later part of the episode but this was a very subjective facing
[11:31.640 -> 11:38.840] incident with Lewis at the maximum fault and I'm glad we weren't recording live
[11:38.840 -> 11:45.960] or doing anything live because at that point my God, the anger that was fuming inside us, like,
[11:46.360 -> 11:48.400] I don't think the world was ready for that yet.
[11:49.760 -> 11:54.000] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, I was fuming, like, you know,
[11:54.040 -> 11:57.200] it was just too irritating. Like actually,
[11:57.200 -> 12:00.240] while watching the race when the incident happened, right after that,
[12:00.720 -> 12:03.680] it did feel to me like a racing incident. And I was quite, you know,
[12:03.680 -> 12:07.920] I was not really mad at that point, but like, as, as we said, you know,
[12:07.920 -> 12:10.480] the race was quite boring, so I didn't really have anything else to do.
[12:12.800 -> 12:17.440] I was just, you know, looking at the replay again and again. And the more I looked at it,
[12:17.440 -> 12:20.880] it became clear to me that like, yeah, it was Hamilton's fault.
[12:20.880 -> 12:21.380] Yeah.
[12:21.920 -> 12:25.000] He, you know, it's just like, it's a simple fact that while racing,
[12:26.900 -> 12:31.900] whenever you are behind and you are invading into your opponent's space and you
[12:32.100 -> 12:36.000] are taking the inside line, it is your responsibility to be able to control your car.
[12:37.200 -> 12:40.200] You cannot say that my car understeered. I mean,
[12:40.200 -> 12:43.200] the car understeered because you were carrying more speed into the corner.
[12:43.600 -> 12:45.440] So yeah, it is your fault.
[12:45.600 -> 12:50.600] And so it was clear that Hamilton kind of knew after the sprint race that if he
[12:53.240 -> 12:56.400] does not attack Max in the first lap,
[12:56.440 -> 12:58.760] if he cannot gain the P1 position,
[12:59.120 -> 13:02.720] he won't be able to gain it in the rest of the race or at least it would be very
[13:02.720 -> 13:09.380] difficult to do it. So from their perspective, I think Hamilton had gone into the race thinking
[13:09.380 -> 13:14.860] that, you know, that's it, this is kind of a do or die for me because last four
[13:14.860 -> 13:19.860] races I've been losing out and, yeah, I need to gain momentum over here.
[13:20.280 -> 13:24.420] And this is my home race, you know, that factor obviously plays
[13:24.420 -> 13:25.200] into the picture a little.
[13:25.200 -> 13:30.680] And I think he was so determined that no matter what, you know,
[13:30.680 -> 13:32.880] I am going to win this race.
[13:33.200 -> 13:37.800] I had felt like even after the race and his post race interviews as well,
[13:38.080 -> 13:42.800] like it felt a lot to me that, you know, he was super desperate,
[13:42.800 -> 13:44.400] determined, whatever you want to call it.
[13:44.800 -> 13:49.600] But he, he had gone in thinking that this is Duart, I think.
[13:49.600 -> 13:56.640] No, but you're right, man. I think like both Mercedes and Hamilton are reeking of desperation at this point.
[13:56.640 -> 14:05.000] You know, like that post-win radio message from Hamilton, I'm glad we didn't give up.
[14:05.000 -> 14:07.000] And then Toto jumping the gun,
[14:07.000 -> 14:09.000] like, you know, Hamilton, we never give up.
[14:09.000 -> 14:11.000] Or, you know, Lewis, we never give up
[14:11.000 -> 14:13.000] and we will never give up.
[14:13.000 -> 14:17.000] I feel like all of this is just part of a conspiracy at this point.
[14:17.000 -> 14:20.000] Because four days back, Toto was on media saying,
[14:20.000 -> 14:30.100] Max is just one crash away from us being back into competition. So, yeah, I'm just raising the questions at this point.
[14:30.100 -> 14:34.900] But there's definitely desperation building up.
[14:34.900 -> 14:37.100] Toto trying to please Hamilton.
[14:37.100 -> 14:40.700] Hamilton trying to please his narcissistic self.
[14:40.700 -> 14:49.480] But poor, poor Max in all of this. Even if it wasn't for Max like anyone
[14:49.480 -> 14:57.560] shouldn't go through 51 G's of a crash. I'm glad that you know the the past
[14:57.560 -> 15:06.660] incidents however sad they have been some of them resulting to death have led us to this point where the safety standards are
[15:06.660 -> 15:09.780] taken so critically.
[15:09.780 -> 15:15.680] Be it Grosjean jumping out of the car last season, be it Max, you know, just having maybe
[15:15.680 -> 15:19.440] a concussion for some time.
[15:19.440 -> 15:22.140] That's the beauty that the sport has grown to.
[15:22.140 -> 15:26.800] And I hope it doesn't get you know being taken
[15:26.800 -> 15:31.040] lightly because of these incidents and drivers walking out and you know the
[15:31.040 -> 15:36.720] safety still gets you know some some due due diligence. But all in all yeah
[15:36.720 -> 15:41.720] definitely Merck and Merck and Hamilton wreaking our desperation. I wouldn't be
[15:41.720 -> 15:45.120] surprised if things get more dirty.
[15:49.640 -> 15:50.160] It does seem so Max's tweet was right on that. Yes.
[15:52.560 -> 15:56.280] Yeah, that tweet was, you know,
[15:56.300 -> 16:00.960] that was very clear that Max was super infuriated and
[16:01.000 -> 16:10.200] properly so, you know, like his race got destroyed. So, yeah. And yeah, it's going to be, you know, all out war now on.
[16:10.240 -> 16:10.880] That's what I feel.
[16:10.880 -> 16:16.080] I think, I think these both are going to make contact a lot more as the season
[16:16.080 -> 16:21.080] goes ahead, because Hamilton made it very clear that he's not going to back down
[16:21.120 -> 16:21.840] no matter what.
[16:22.320 -> 16:25.240] And I think, by the way. By the way is that like a
[16:25.240 -> 16:31.640] challenge like do whatever you want I have like FIA it's like a small
[16:31.640 -> 16:35.520] nation saying do whatever you want I have you know a big country backing me
[16:35.520 -> 16:44.760] sort of deal. Right yeah I have US with me. Yeah exactly like you know it's I
[16:44.760 -> 16:48.000] think we're gonna see the old Max back again. You know,
[16:48.000 -> 16:52.680] one who would just, just as he was crowned as crash star pin, right?
[16:52.680 -> 16:57.200] Like when he came in, that's what people would call him. And yeah,
[16:57.200 -> 16:59.840] I think that's what we're going to see now. And though, like, yeah,
[16:59.840 -> 17:04.560] I feel bad. The crash was horrible. Like, you know, I was like,
[17:04.560 -> 17:06.680] while watching the race itself, I was just, you know,
[17:07.040 -> 17:10.000] shocked to see the crash because my God,
[17:10.040 -> 17:14.560] like the rate at which he stopped at the barrier,
[17:14.560 -> 17:19.120] like, you know, from 180 to zero in like less than a second, it's just insane.
[17:19.640 -> 17:23.560] Yup. 51 G's. Can't even think about what it might feel like. You know,
[17:23.640 -> 17:28.040] he was clearly shaken up when he got out of the car. It was quite clear.
[17:28.040 -> 17:30.800] He was even walked by himself as well. So yeah.
[17:30.800 -> 17:33.680] Even that radio message was all, wow.
[17:33.720 -> 17:37.080] Oh my God. That was scary, man. Wow. And oh,
[17:37.080 -> 17:39.720] so if you have seen the whole radio message,
[17:39.720 -> 17:43.680] most of the places which showed it actually have kind of cut some silence in
[17:43.680 -> 17:44.280] there.
[17:44.280 -> 17:48.840] But there was a good five to six second gap between where his
[17:49.120 -> 17:52.960] engineer asked him whether he's fine and he, you know, took time to reply.
[17:53.000 -> 17:59.160] Yeah. Oh yeah. It was quite scary to listen to that going on in live.
[17:59.480 -> 18:04.640] Yeah. Well, glad he's okay, man. I think, and you know,
[18:08.280 -> 18:08.680] actually, yeah, he's okay. We've moved past that.
[18:14.360 -> 18:17.600] The frustration started building up when Lewis was just like, there was probably just one statement right after the crash.
[18:17.600 -> 18:19.760] And I mean, that's obvious because you've crashed into it.
[18:19.760 -> 18:23.080] So it's just your emotions running and you're like, how's Max? Sure.
[18:23.600 -> 18:23.880] Right.
[18:24.480 -> 18:29.440] Post that, up until like, I think yesterday evening when he tweeted about the
[18:29.940 -> 18:30.780] incident,
[18:31.320 -> 18:35.440] there has been no statement at all from him,
[18:36.200 -> 18:40.960] even either asking, checking or like even mentioning Max Verstappen.
[18:41.680 -> 18:41.880] Yep.
[18:41.880 -> 18:48.440] Right. You, okay, let's not say you almost killed him, but like that incident almost killed a person.
[18:48.920 -> 18:52.760] Like it's a miracle he's walking. It almost killed a person.
[18:53.480 -> 18:57.240] At least have some decency to make a statement about it.
[18:57.760 -> 19:02.760] And that's where like my hate for Hamilton that was sort of subduing in the
[19:02.760 -> 19:05.320] past two races has just reinvigorated.
[19:06.000 -> 19:07.200] I'm like, I just hate this.
[19:08.240 -> 19:09.120] Yeah, definitely.
[19:09.160 -> 19:09.840] Definitely.
[19:09.880 -> 19:14.400] I would say, honestly, going into this weekend, I was rooting for Hamilton.
[19:14.440 -> 19:22.960] I was rooting for Hamilton even in lap one of this race, just because I could see that he's really giving, you know, all in and he is enjoying this competition.
[19:23.320 -> 19:25.920] And I was enjoying them both racing it out
[19:26.640 -> 19:33.280] really aggressively. But after this incident I have lost a lot of respect for him.
[19:33.280 -> 19:40.320] Not because of the incident itself, I mean I understand, I'm not saying that he
[19:40.320 -> 19:44.720] is a terrible person or a terrible driver because he hit max, that can happen.
[19:43.600 -> 19:44.600] that he is a terrible person or a terrible driver because he hit max, you know, that can happen.
[19:44.600 -> 19:49.160] Like anybody who is just sitting at their home and saying that, you know,
[19:49.160 -> 19:53.320] he's stupid, he can't drive because he crashed, is an idiot because
[19:54.520 -> 19:58.320] these cars are incredibly difficult to handle and the speeds at which they are
[19:58.320 -> 20:01.960] driving shit happens, you know, that's fine. That's perfectly fine.
[20:01.960 -> 20:06.720] But how you deal with it after you're out of the cockpit is
[20:06.760 -> 20:08.920] what troubled me a lot.
[20:09.000 -> 20:10.480] Yeah, yeah, exactly.
[20:11.240 -> 20:15.280] It felt very weird. And not just Hamilton, the entire Mercedes team,
[20:15.480 -> 20:20.120] it felt like, you know, they did not care because like, okay, I understand.
[20:20.160 -> 20:21.360] I also understand that, you know,
[20:21.360 -> 20:24.000] his engineer did not give him any details during the race.
[20:24.240 -> 20:26.960] Definitely makes sense. You don't want to disturb your driver.
[20:26.960 -> 20:27.460] Totally.
[20:28.160 -> 20:32.320] Yeah, they are in their zone. But after the race, while congratulating him,
[20:32.320 -> 20:35.520] they could have just slipped in a single sentence that, you know,
[20:36.080 -> 20:41.120] we had to take him to the hospital because of the 51G crash for checks.
[20:41.760 -> 20:44.560] But there was absolutely no information passed to him. So
[20:44.440 -> 20:47.680] crash for checks, but there was absolutely no information passed to him. So, I don't understand that.
[20:47.680 -> 20:52.000] I feel it's a very big, very big L on Bono for that,
[20:52.040 -> 20:55.520] because he should have informed Hamilton about what the situation is.
[20:55.760 -> 20:59.840] And if not him, like, I guess like Hamilton should have sort of like,
[20:59.880 -> 21:03.880] out of respect made or, you know, just asked, you know,
[21:03.880 -> 21:04.960] what happened with Max,
[21:05.040 -> 21:05.640] but his narcissistic side just took over him so much. out of respect made or, you know, just, you know, what happened with Max,
[21:10.120 -> 21:13.480] but his narcissistic side just took over him so much. Like he, he celebrated as if he's broken all records and like, he's,
[21:13.920 -> 21:16.160] he's like the king of the world. And like, he's,
[21:16.240 -> 21:20.040] he's done everything that no human can ever do.
[21:20.840 -> 21:24.400] There was this, there was this one tweet, one of our tweets,
[21:24.600 -> 21:31.400] somebody had replied was that it felt as if Hamilton was celebrating World War II, like he won World War II or something.
[21:31.400 -> 21:36.560] Yeah. It was a feeling like that. I mean, what was this?
[21:36.560 -> 21:47.160] But yeah, that's actually, that's where it flipped me off completely. Like, okay, sure. During, you're right. Like during the race and you know, during the incident, it's all fine.
[21:48.000 -> 21:51.680] But post race is where it flipped me off completely.
[21:52.200 -> 21:55.680] That celebration was definitely an over celebration.
[21:57.640 -> 22:02.400] Probably somewhat, some of it was okay.
[22:02.440 -> 22:09.280] In the sense that you're winning nth time in front of your home crowd. So, you have that
[22:09.280 -> 22:17.760] adrenaline built up. But overdoing it is where it flips me off. You know, taking the flag out.
[22:17.760 -> 22:22.880] Like, there was this one moment where he took the flag out and you know, he was cheering everything
[22:22.880 -> 22:29.720] and blah blah blah. And he drove with the flag completely throughout the lap, which shows respect for his country and all of that.
[22:30.200 -> 22:34.080] But when he's coming back into the pits, he threw the flag off.
[22:35.520 -> 22:37.840] And to that extent, like when he... Okay.
[22:38.040 -> 22:42.400] I was still giving him the benefit of doubt, like, okay, he needs to jump the pit wall.
[22:42.440 -> 22:46.360] So he needs to do that. He's going to come back and pick it up. But no,
[22:46.840 -> 22:51.360] he just went straight to the cameras, pointed to whatever he was doing,
[22:51.360 -> 22:52.640] and just moved on. I'm like,
[22:53.000 -> 22:57.320] this is the biggest mark of disrespect after everything you stand and stood for.
[22:58.240 -> 23:02.400] Yeah, that was weird. The whole celebration part was where I lost it.
[23:02.800 -> 23:07.960] I was pretty much okay with even him winning the race,
[23:08.840 -> 23:12.200] right up to the end. But the celebration just put me off a lot.
[23:12.200 -> 23:16.680] Like it was very weird. Like while your rival is in the hospital,
[23:16.720 -> 23:20.480] you are celebrating, like you won the championship. I mean, come on, dude,
[23:20.480 -> 23:23.760] you lost four races. This is one race that you won after a long time.
[23:23.760 -> 23:28.400] That's fine. I get it. You're, you know, you're in, in your home crowd.
[23:28.960 -> 23:32.800] You are winning after a long time. You have won like seven times.
[23:32.800 -> 23:34.200] How many times did you win here? I forget.
[23:35.080 -> 23:36.600] Since 2014 or something.
[23:36.640 -> 23:41.560] Yeah, exactly. And all that is cool. Like, yeah, I appreciate that.
[23:41.600 -> 23:47.960] But it just felt like an utter lack of care for your
[23:47.960 -> 23:52.160] peers because at the end of the day you know all of them are risking their lives
[23:52.160 -> 23:59.440] and are competing at the highest level I feel that if you do respect your rivals
[23:59.440 -> 24:04.280] you should have that much concern to ensure that you know it felt a little
[24:04.280 -> 24:05.680] odd to me the whole thing and at little odd to me, the whole thing.
[24:05.680 -> 24:10.560] And at the end of the day, the whole thing was about me, me, me, I, this, I, that.
[24:10.560 -> 24:17.760] And every time he's messed up, it's like the car did this, the team did this, we need to look into
[24:17.760 -> 24:29.360] this. Such a narcissistic attitude, such a narcissistic attitude. On the other side, I mean I would say some of Daniel's career was probably ruined since Max got on to Red Bull
[24:29.360 -> 24:34.200] since a few years back but at least there was this side of him where during
[24:34.200 -> 24:38.440] the post-race interviews he interrupted the reporter and you know checked in on
[24:38.440 -> 24:49.600] Max. That shows how good of a human you are, no matter how many, you know, organizations you start for equality and, you know,
[24:50.040 -> 24:54.320] all the other things. I still like what
[24:54.800 -> 24:57.880] what Lewis is trying to do with equality and, you know,
[24:59.600 -> 25:02.920] racism and all of that, which is a good part.
[25:03.320 -> 25:05.840] But then you show this other side of
[25:05.840 -> 25:13.480] yourself as somewhat on the humanitarian grounds and I'm you know you are
[25:13.480 -> 25:17.080] driven as much as your leader is but if the leader is trying to send mixed
[25:17.080 -> 25:24.360] signals as a follower what am I doing? Yeah, yeah I mean that's the thing you
[25:24.360 -> 25:29.720] know it's very difficult for me to actually form a proper opinion about Hamilton.
[25:30.000 -> 25:35.000] Like, you know, I've seen him being a straight up asshole at times.
[25:35.280 -> 25:36.040] At the same time,
[25:36.040 -> 25:40.680] I've seen him being like the kindest sweetest person out there on the field,
[25:40.760 -> 25:41.600] you know, at the same time.
[25:41.600 -> 25:45.600] That's when, and you know, let me interrupt you there, but like,
[25:48.880 -> 25:49.520] there is a big correlation between when he's losing and when he's winning.
[25:53.920 -> 25:56.560] Exactly on what you said. When he's winning, like the world's an oyster and everything's good. But when he's losing, he's the other side and asshole.
[25:56.560 -> 25:57.280] Sorry, continue.
[25:57.280 -> 25:57.780] Yeah.
[25:58.800 -> 26:02.240] Yeah, right. So yeah, that's the thing. Like, it's very difficult for me to form an opinion.
[26:02.240 -> 26:05.080] You know, I can't understand who's the real Hamilton here.
[26:05.400 -> 26:09.240] I don't know.
[26:09.240 -> 26:14.240] It's very weird because this behavior has occurred even in the past,
[26:14.640 -> 26:15.480] not just now.
[26:15.480 -> 26:20.240] It's just that in the past few years they have had such a good advantage that
[26:20.240 -> 26:21.440] nobody really challenged them.
[26:21.440 -> 26:24.560] And there were situations where this actually happened.
[26:24.920 -> 26:30.240] And so definitely for the past few years, he never had to sweat it. But yeah,
[26:30.240 -> 26:36.720] now when it's really getting hot and heavy, it feels like his true self is coming up or
[26:36.720 -> 26:42.320] whatever. I mean, still, I completely still respect him for the race that he drove because,
[26:43.440 -> 26:45.040] let's get into it a little,
[26:45.040 -> 26:49.120] but he got a couple of advantages in terms of red flags and everything.
[26:49.320 -> 26:52.280] That is also something we want to talk about. So once you are through this,
[26:52.400 -> 26:54.200] I want to bring that up. Yeah, sure.
[26:55.240 -> 26:59.680] So like I think no other driver would have been able to win that race to be
[26:59.680 -> 27:01.040] honest, like, you know,
[27:01.060 -> 27:09.120] covering that 13 second gap to Luckluck and overtaking him because Luckluck also doesn't let anybody pass. He's a very tough racer.
[27:10.040 -> 27:12.840] And so yeah, complete hats off to him for that.
[27:13.640 -> 27:18.520] And even for me, honestly, like by the end of the race, I was like, okay,
[27:18.640 -> 27:20.680] well deserved because he actually drove a good race.
[27:21.040 -> 27:25.000] But after the celebration and everything, yeah, it just pissed me off.
[27:25.000 -> 27:30.000] Yeah. Yeah. I think what probably we're getting at too is like,
[27:30.000 -> 27:33.000] sure, respect for him as a, somewhere as a driver,
[27:33.000 -> 27:37.000] but complete dislike for him as a person.
[27:37.000 -> 27:40.000] Yeah. Yeah.
[27:40.000 -> 27:46.000] I'm back to myself two weeks back where it's all the hate train for him again.
[27:46.000 -> 27:47.000] So, fuck it.
[27:50.000 -> 27:59.000] But, you know, it's been one of those memes where you have someone holding a kid who's just trying to stay afloat.
[27:59.000 -> 28:00.000] That's Hamilton.
[28:00.000 -> 28:03.000] Then you have someone who's almost drowning.
[28:03.000 -> 28:04.000] That's poor Max.
[28:04.000 -> 28:09.440] And then you have someone at the bottom who's completely gone that's poor Leclerc man
[28:09.440 -> 28:21.240] what a drive what a drive yeah I well I mean he won me over like I had my doubts
[28:21.240 -> 28:29.480] about Leclerc but yesterday's drive was something else. Like he had no business being at P1 with that Ferrari.
[28:30.800 -> 28:34.720] I don't know where that performance came from. Like it made no sense.
[28:34.720 -> 28:39.680] Like he was managing a bloody engine failure because his engine was just
[28:39.760 -> 28:44.280] turning off, you know, randomly and sporadically. And his engineer is like,
[28:44.280 -> 28:49.320] you know, Hey, don't upshift when the engine cuts off. And you know randomly and sporadically and his engineer is like you know hey don't upshift when the engine cuts off and you know like while driving the car
[28:49.320 -> 28:55.240] at that speed he's telling him to not shift up and predict when it's going to cut off
[28:55.240 -> 29:00.360] you know it's crazy and you have Hamilton behind you like you are first of all you are defending Hamilton
[29:00.360 -> 29:06.480] you're driving your fucking car and your engineer is telling you don't upshift.
[29:06.480 -> 29:12.100] Yeah right, like just predict whenever it's not, the engine is gonna cut off and by the
[29:12.100 -> 29:17.320] way engine cuts off so you lose time so yeah just have fun.
[29:17.320 -> 29:18.320] Exactly.
[29:18.320 -> 29:29.600] But with all of that like what a brilliant run. It again hurt seeing him being overtaken, almost again being killed on that same turn.
[29:30.400 -> 29:31.360] On that same turn.
[29:32.720 -> 29:37.840] But on the penultimate lap, man, I would have just loved to see him on P1.
[29:40.400 -> 29:49.440] A comment there too, Hamilton after the race was like, you know, Laclerc fights well and he understood how difficult that turn is and he backed off.
[29:49.440 -> 30:06.480] I'm like, dude, if you wouldn't have backed off, you would have entered on the same spot and the car would have been in the same situation with 51 G's and, you know, two karting buddies high-fying each other on the same bed in the hospital.
[30:09.120 -> 30:11.120] So shut up and keep driving.
[30:13.600 -> 30:17.440] Yeah. And that's the point, you know, actually, even in that overtake, if you saw Hamilton took that turn correctly in that overtake,
[30:17.440 -> 30:21.800] because that again proves my point that by that time his tires were hot enough
[30:21.920 -> 30:23.480] and they were at the right temperature.
[30:23.720 -> 30:28.960] So he was able to manage his car a lot better than lap one because he did hit the apex
[30:28.960 -> 30:35.600] correctly over there at cops while overtaking Luckluck and yeah Luckluck ran a
[30:35.600 -> 30:41.120] little wide but still like you know I don't like looking at the footage it
[30:41.120 -> 30:45.000] doesn't feel like they would had made, even if he hadn't run by.
[30:46.200 -> 30:47.800] Long story short, there was,
[30:48.440 -> 30:53.240] there was super dominance of narcissism from Hamilton
[30:53.240 -> 30:58.520] yesterday. But you know, I also want to talk about the fact that
[30:59.120 -> 31:04.120] it just wasn't Mercedes and Hamilton being completely
[31:04.120 -> 31:05.000] self-absorbed.
[31:05.600 -> 31:10.600] But the whole thing was also very much fueled by British media and the
[31:11.040 -> 31:14.840] commentators yesterday, which was just painful to watch.
[31:15.400 -> 31:19.080] Dude, fuck Crofty. He's a fucking asshole. He's in fucking Elbison.
[31:19.480 -> 31:21.400] That fucking idiot. Dude,
[31:21.440 -> 31:24.520] he half of the times doesn't know what driver is whom.
[31:24.760 -> 31:27.040] He oftentimes just mislabels people.
[31:27.280 -> 31:30.240] He can't recognize that there are two cars there.
[31:30.520 -> 31:34.320] One car has a green color T cam and he's the second driver.
[31:34.360 -> 31:36.120] Can't you understand that? Like, you know,
[31:36.320 -> 31:40.200] everybody knows that if I perform the way he performs at my job,
[31:40.200 -> 31:44.640] I will be fired for sure. Like that idiot, even during this race,
[31:44.640 -> 31:48.160] he says at the end of the race that Hamilton got the best of Max and you know,
[31:48.160 -> 31:51.520] he got the better out of it. I'm like, what the hell dude?
[31:51.520 -> 31:55.480] He literally punted his rival off the track and you're, you're praising him,
[31:55.480 -> 31:59.520] that he got the best out of Max. Like, come on, he did not beat him on track.
[31:59.920 -> 32:02.160] It's so clear.
[32:02.160 -> 32:10.400] The British bias in these commentators of FIA is just very evident.
[32:10.400 -> 32:11.680] It's a lot irritating.
[32:12.400 -> 32:13.840] Yeah, it's definitely annoying.
[32:15.200 -> 32:22.880] And it shows out in, you know, the enthusiasm that comes up after the race as well, where it's like,
[32:22.880 -> 32:30.360] you know, winning in front of home crowd and it's just fueling, you know, the self-absorption more if
[32:30.360 -> 32:36.520] these guys can even listen to him. But it was definitely a put-off
[32:36.520 -> 32:44.520] from just the whole experience becomes a mood kill. You know, at this point, just
[32:44.520 -> 32:46.120] to set some record out there I don't
[32:46.120 -> 32:51.000] know if I've said this before I am neither a Mac supporter and I'm
[32:51.000 -> 32:57.840] definitely not a Lewis supporter. I'm more for good racing than a driver
[32:57.840 -> 33:02.040] particularly and I think as F1 fan fiction I can I can vouch that for
[33:02.040 -> 33:05.400] Sarang as well. So Sarangang, correct me if I'm wrong.
[33:05.400 -> 33:12.480] But at this point, like we want, we're stating this because, you know, we shouldn't be perceived
[33:12.480 -> 33:19.200] as MAAC supporters trying to put hate out on Hamilton. No, this was, this is purely the
[33:19.200 -> 33:25.440] experience that got ruined because of these biases and the post-race celebrations and the
[33:25.440 -> 33:30.920] whole event that ended up being because of whatever happened during the race and
[33:30.920 -> 33:36.120] some events that didn't get its due diligence like Luckluck for example.
[33:36.120 -> 33:42.320] Yeah definitely. I don't think the commentators gave Luckluck enough credit that they should have given him.
[33:42.320 -> 33:42.820] Exactly.
[33:42.820 -> 33:47.520] Because he drove a race of his life. Very honestly,
[33:47.520 -> 33:51.000] I think this would be one of the races that he would remember by that, you know,
[33:51.000 -> 33:54.400] wow, that was something which I achieved there because yeah,
[33:54.440 -> 33:58.240] Ferrari is nowhere near the fastest car on the planet.
[33:58.920 -> 34:01.520] And still dominating for 50 laps.
[34:01.920 -> 34:03.400] Exactly. Yep. Yep. Yep.
[34:04.520 -> 34:08.520] I think Liberty Media, if, if they want to, you know,
[34:08.520 -> 34:10.240] take the sport in the right direction,
[34:10.520 -> 34:13.800] need to get their own set of commentators. And I think they are doing that.
[34:13.800 -> 34:15.000] I think that's their plan.
[34:15.280 -> 34:18.920] Because if you notice that the Pitlane channel that they have,
[34:18.940 -> 34:22.760] they have their own commentators there. So I guess that there is some,
[34:23.360 -> 34:27.480] some plans in the pipeline that they want to break off from
[34:27.480 -> 34:31.680] Sky because I think this British bias is getting too much these days.
[34:31.680 -> 34:32.680] I agree.
[34:32.680 -> 34:40.400] And even if you see, most of the media personnel that FOM hires are from UK, so it's clear
[34:40.400 -> 34:42.760] they are targeting them.
[34:42.760 -> 34:46.040] I don't want to make this statement, but a passing comment.
[34:46.920 -> 34:50.280] If you want to realize how much of bias there is,
[34:50.600 -> 34:55.520] go watch one of the FIA's video about Lawrence Beretto
[34:55.520 -> 34:58.240] and David Croft analyzing.
[34:58.560 -> 34:59.400] Will Buxton.
[35:00.600 -> 35:01.440] Thank you.
[35:02.000 -> 35:07.960] Analyzing the incident as non-racers. The like to dislike ratio on
[35:07.960 -> 35:12.000] that video should give you a hint what's gonna happen. I'll just leave it there.
[35:12.000 -> 35:17.320] On to lighter notes, Sarang I want to bring this up. You know some of the other
[35:17.320 -> 35:22.720] minor things that were happening. Some good nostalgia for me. Sabin Allah was
[35:22.720 -> 35:25.920] back. Oh, yes.
[35:29.800 -> 35:29.840] I initially thought there was some brushing that led him to spin, but no,
[35:31.880 -> 35:33.520] this was pure Sabin Allah.
[35:35.720 -> 35:37.120] It's like, just fuck it. You know, I want to just spin. I haven't spun in a long time.
[35:37.440 -> 35:40.520] I've been seeing this other new kid spinning so much on the field.
[35:40.560 -> 35:42.440] I don't get to spin as much.
[35:43.040 -> 35:47.000] Yeah. Fomo from Maze Spain that spun just a few minutes back.
[35:47.000 -> 35:56.640] That is pure comedy gold. When I saw that I knew I had predicted like the memes that are gonna come
[35:56.640 -> 36:05.360] off from this but I think everything got shadowed over just because of the main incident that was out there. You know in recent
[36:05.360 -> 36:11.080] times someone on our Insta commented you know these new people on the block just
[36:11.080 -> 36:16.640] want to leap off of Sebinilla whoever that person is well your boy was back
[36:16.640 -> 36:25.440] yesterday. Poor Lando though, his pit stop sort of killed him.
[36:25.440 -> 36:28.960] I think he could have gotten P3 there.
[36:28.960 -> 36:35.640] Maybe Mercedes team orders would have told Bortaz not to race Lando and let Lando pass as well.
[36:35.640 -> 36:36.960] And he would have done that.
[36:36.960 -> 36:46.000] Like he comes off as this aggressive guy who's not gonna bow down to anyone and just lets Lewis pass.
[36:46.000 -> 36:52.600] I think this time it was very clear. Probably like there is still a chance for him to get a seat for next year.
[36:52.600 -> 36:59.400] So he's just like, you know, being a good boy and, you know, trying to get favor from Merck.
[36:59.400 -> 37:08.000] But yeah, I mean, yeah, he was nowhere. So, yeah. At this point, with Botas, with Hamilton, with Bono, with Toto,
[37:08.000 -> 37:10.800] Mercedes is just a team of double standards.
[37:10.800 -> 37:12.600] That's what it is.
[37:12.600 -> 37:13.600] That's what it is.
[37:13.600 -> 37:17.400] But on the other side, Ricardo seems to be finding his mojo.
[37:17.400 -> 37:22.400] He was well-fought, well-hold, good hold on his position.
[37:22.400 -> 37:29.000] B5, I wanna say. I'd have to go back and check. But I think it's a P5.
[37:29.760 -> 37:31.560] Finally...
[37:31.560 -> 37:33.080] Hamilton
[37:33.080 -> 37:35.080] second was Leclerc, third was Botas.
[37:35.080 -> 37:37.080] Oh yeah, and both McLaren.
[37:37.200 -> 37:43.560] So, first time into, you know, top five with McLaren. That was a
[37:44.400 -> 37:45.520] well-held spot for him. first time into, you know, top five with McLaren, that was a well,
[37:45.600 -> 37:47.920] well hold spot for him.
[37:48.080 -> 37:53.040] So, yep. Yep. I think McLaren is the clear rest of the best,
[37:53.480 -> 37:56.200] sorry, best of the rest. So yeah,
[37:56.520 -> 38:00.480] I think they are going to take it away with the P3 in constructors.
[38:01.080 -> 38:01.920] I think that's pretty clear.
[38:02.160 -> 38:08.000] Yeah. I, at some point I still thought there's going to be some fight between Ferrari and McLaren.
[38:08.000 -> 38:11.000] I still hope there will be for P3.
[38:11.000 -> 38:15.000] Yeah. Well, if Luckluck wins the race, that might happen.
[38:15.000 -> 38:16.000] True.
[38:16.000 -> 38:27.800] But lastly, like one of the highlights before we move on was Raikkonen. I don't know what he is doing now. I think this
[38:27.800 -> 38:33.200] might just be the last year that we see Raikkonen on track. That's what it feels like.
[38:33.200 -> 38:39.280] Yeah, he is somewhat having it enough. But that radio, if you folks, if you
[38:39.280 -> 38:46.000] haven't heard, we're not gonna say it here. Go check it out. Classic Kimmy radio message. So that was fun.
[38:46.880 -> 38:49.200] Yeah. Okay.
[38:49.240 -> 38:54.120] One thing I really wanted to bring up today was a
[38:54.120 -> 38:55.880] confusion or, you know,
[38:56.440 -> 39:00.280] this weird aspect of the sport that probably not everybody knows about.
[39:01.000 -> 39:05.000] I think there was a lot of anger created among people due to this main incident
[39:05.000 -> 39:08.000] and Hamilton winning the race.
[39:08.000 -> 39:16.000] Even after getting a 10 second penalty, winning the race is something very weird to hear for anybody.
[39:16.000 -> 39:21.000] And it is a lot confusing to a lot of people.
[39:21.000 -> 39:25.600] And that I feel is what angered people the most.
[39:26.040 -> 39:29.800] Because there are so many oddities here. So let's, you know,
[39:29.800 -> 39:33.280] just break it down a little and analyze it. So I think,
[39:33.280 -> 39:35.480] so what happened is that with the crash,
[39:35.560 -> 39:38.560] obviously Hamilton also received some damage to his car.
[39:39.240 -> 39:44.000] His rim was cracked and I think he had damage on his front wing as well.
[39:45.080 -> 39:48.520] And definitely his tires were a little damaged as well.
[39:48.960 -> 39:53.600] So like what essentially happened is by punting
[39:53.640 -> 39:58.280] Vastapan off the field, he created the red flag situation. He incurred damage.
[39:58.320 -> 40:00.960] He got an opportunity to repair his car.
[40:02.360 -> 40:05.520] But yeah, definitely. Yeah. Completely unintentionally.
[40:06.320 -> 40:11.320] But still he was the reason of the crash and he benefited the most from it as
[40:13.440 -> 40:16.840] well. So that's, that's a very big oddity here.
[40:17.840 -> 40:22.840] Another thing is that time penalties need some restructuring here.
[40:26.200 -> 40:34.680] Time penalties need some restructuring here. The reason I say this is when, even after giving a 10 second penalty to a driver, he
[40:34.680 -> 40:37.640] you know, just breezes past this finish line.
[40:37.640 -> 40:40.180] There definitely is an issue with the penalty.
[40:40.180 -> 40:45.120] If the penalty does not have consequence, the penalty holds no meaning at all.
[40:45.280 -> 40:46.120] That's what I think.
[40:47.600 -> 40:49.360] There's subjectivity there.
[40:49.520 -> 40:56.280] Like I think, first of all, FIA needs to get some guidelines in place,
[40:56.560 -> 41:02.160] get themselves aligned because Austria too, like the Austrian, not the Styrian one.
[41:02.520 -> 41:07.840] Austria was a day with left and right, you know, rainfall of penalties.
[41:07.840 -> 41:14.640] Whereas, yesterday was, I think we weren't watching Formula One, we were watching Formula Lewis.
[41:14.640 -> 41:21.120] At that point, it's like, you need to get your guidelines in place.
[41:21.120 -> 41:27.800] There's too much subjectivity, I understand. But the same thing, a similar thing, when,
[41:27.800 -> 41:32.200] when something happens where Russell and science were part of the incident,
[41:32.200 -> 41:34.440] Russell gets a three place grid penalty,
[41:35.160 -> 41:39.960] whereas almost a killing incident gets a 10 second
[41:40.640 -> 41:47.160] stop and go or a 10 second penalty right so so in my head pushing someone off
[41:47.160 -> 41:54.320] the track is way more penalizing than someone almost getting killed. It's
[41:54.320 -> 41:59.360] either sending a bad message and at least to me it's telling you don't
[41:59.360 -> 42:05.200] realize what penalty should be given when. So get your standards in place.
[42:05.200 -> 42:11.200] And one thing I want to point out here is that a lot of people have said this, that
[42:11.200 -> 42:20.200] penalties, whenever penalties are given out, what happened after the crash is not considered.
[42:20.200 -> 42:25.000] But I feel this is a wrong approach to take in the first place because you cannot,
[42:25.000 -> 42:29.320] you cannot just isolate a action and not think about what,
[42:29.800 -> 42:33.560] you know, effect it caused. That's not how even real life works.
[42:33.560 -> 42:38.400] Like if you just shoot a gun in the air and if you just think about that,
[42:38.480 -> 42:39.320] you know, that's fine.
[42:39.320 -> 42:43.480] But did you consider that there was somebody above you and who died?
[42:43.520 -> 42:47.240] Like obviously you are going to have to see the consequence of the action.
[42:47.240 -> 42:50.080] You can't just look at the action and penalize people for that.
[42:50.080 -> 42:55.320] There have to be, I mean, the consequence has to be considered while penalizing the action.
[42:55.320 -> 42:59.400] It just doesn't make sense to me when people make this argument at all.
[42:59.400 -> 43:00.520] Yeah, yeah, I know.
[43:00.520 -> 43:02.920] And you're absolutely right.
[43:02.920 -> 43:10.120] And I want to let folks know of a discussion, you know, Sarang and I were having before we started recording, which is
[43:12.120 -> 43:17.640] Hamilton had this, you know, axle crack or whatever damage he had to his front left.
[43:18.280 -> 43:23.440] The red flag is what makes Hamilton on podium today.
[43:23.480 -> 43:25.360] And, you know, him being that narcissistic
[43:25.360 -> 43:31.520] asshole that he was able to be but consequential of the incident that was
[43:31.520 -> 43:36.520] caused he would have retired and this never came up during the race this was
[43:36.520 -> 43:40.200] an after race comments I don't know how many people even listen to this or even
[43:40.200 -> 43:45.040] know about this so as a consequence of the racing incident,
[43:45.400 -> 43:46.920] Max is in the hospital.
[43:47.680 -> 43:52.200] Louis would have had to retire from the race. And that is absolutely fair.
[43:52.440 -> 43:54.800] Why does a red flag, you know,
[43:54.800 -> 43:59.520] make him advantageous to for people to fix his car and do whatever
[43:59.520 -> 44:00.360] he wants.
[44:01.120 -> 44:03.720] Yep. One thing I don't get is, you know,
[44:03.960 -> 44:09.000] if you crash a car in qualifying or even damage your car in qualifying, you are under path for me.
[44:09.000 -> 44:14.000] And if you repair your car significantly, then you do get some time to repair it, but it's very less.
[44:14.000 -> 44:20.000] If you do make any major repairs, you are thrown to the back of the grid or you get a pit late.
[44:20.000 -> 44:25.000] Totally. Totally. And this is, this is exactly, you know know what comes to my mind right now.
[44:25.000 -> 44:32.000] The gearbox changes and the engine changes, right. Like what if it was a red flag and I switched my gearbox.
[44:32.000 -> 44:37.000] Like I'm not gonna wait between the weekends to change my gearbox. I'll change it during a red flag.
[44:37.000 -> 44:43.000] Yeah, no it's weird. There needs to be some consequence for repairing your car during a red flag.
[44:43.000 -> 44:46.920] I think it's very easy. They don't even have to overthink it just put people at the back
[44:46.920 -> 44:50.080] of the grid that's it like that's what you do at the restart just use the same
[44:50.080 -> 44:53.280] thing for a red flag because you are doing a standing start so why not just
[44:53.280 -> 44:57.760] follow the same rules that are done for the normal start. With the amount of
[44:57.760 -> 45:06.160] increase in red flags in this season and the times people have taken an advantage of this, it
[45:06.160 -> 45:11.120] definitely needs some looking into it. So FIA, if anyone is remotely listening to
[45:11.120 -> 45:17.080] this, you definitely look into this. Because Leclerc got a better out of it.
[45:17.080 -> 45:20.960] You know, karma took better of him and probably he wasn't able to drive or
[45:20.960 -> 45:29.960] whatever. But he would have started from pole. It would have been a different Sunday for him. Mekshamakar was into Q2. Sure we don't
[45:29.960 -> 45:34.720] look into it much because Haas and Mek and blah blah blah. But again everyone
[45:34.720 -> 45:37.640] would have started complaining if this was a different person, different driver,
[45:37.640 -> 45:42.840] different position. And even in Baku, even in Baku, Lewis had better out of it
[45:42.840 -> 45:48.160] out of the whole red flag. So the whole subjectivity needs to be looked into.
[45:48.760 -> 45:54.240] This definitely needs more attention from FIA.
[45:54.760 -> 45:57.360] The other part, I know, Sarang, you know, we were bringing this up is,
[45:57.960 -> 46:02.280] how this ends up being a black and white situation all the time.
[46:02.600 -> 46:03.200] But it's not.
[46:03.840 -> 46:07.440] Come on, if we are discussing this so much that both drivers are at fault,
[46:07.440 -> 46:09.280] Toto says it takes two to tango.
[46:09.680 -> 46:14.560] Why not both drivers get some form of penalty based on who was at fault more?
[46:15.040 -> 46:15.880] Make it fair.
[46:16.720 -> 46:21.440] Yep. I completely agree. Like I feel right now it's two black and white.
[46:21.960 -> 46:25.040] There's no harm in splitting penalties as well. Like if,
[46:25.360 -> 46:29.840] if Max Verrett survived the crash, I don't think it's wrong. I mean,
[46:29.840 -> 46:33.240] not in this particular incident, but yeah,
[46:33.520 -> 46:35.800] in other situations as well,
[46:35.800 -> 46:39.200] I think they can split penalties that would help thing.
[46:39.440 -> 46:44.320] One more small thing which I wanted to bring up is penalties
[46:44.320 -> 46:45.000] itself needs some
[46:45.460 -> 46:47.600] restructuring. I don't know what the answer is,
[46:47.960 -> 46:52.200] but 10 seconds penalty given to a Mercedes was a 10 seconds penalty given to a
[46:52.200 -> 46:56.280] house are not equal. How much ever you say F1 is not,
[46:57.040 -> 46:59.080] you know, all the teams are not at the same level.
[46:59.080 -> 47:03.520] They're not in the same house and that's the situation you have to, you know,
[47:03.600 -> 47:07.000] weigh the penalties such that they affect people equally.
[47:07.000 -> 47:13.000] Because that's what, you know, there's this difference between equality and equity kind of a thing, right?
[47:13.000 -> 47:18.000] Yes, I understand 10 seconds is the standard that's given to everybody,
[47:18.000 -> 47:21.000] but that's not how it should be because it affects teams differently.
[47:21.000 -> 47:26.720] And there are some ideas that were floated around, which I like. One of them was,
[47:26.720 -> 47:31.080] you know, giving like penalties of championship points.
[47:31.120 -> 47:31.960] That's a very good idea.
[47:33.560 -> 47:36.760] Exactly. A prorated thing or otherwise, you know,
[47:36.800 -> 47:40.520] give the time penalties according to the performance or according to the
[47:40.680 -> 47:43.440] standings of the constructors, you know, change,
[47:43.600 -> 47:46.080] give a harsher penalties to the top teams and give a
[47:46.080 -> 47:51.840] lighter penalties to the bottom ones or whatever. I think that needs some restructuring here.
[47:51.840 -> 47:58.000] I really enjoyed this race. I really or rather I really enjoyed the first lap of the race.
[47:58.000 -> 48:03.680] And I was really hoping that this is what the entire race is going to be. I was so delighted
[48:04.720 -> 48:10.600] hoping that this is what the entire race is going to be. I was so delighted by it. Yeah, this needs to change from Formula Lewis to Formula One.
[48:10.600 -> 48:17.640] FIA needs to be more unbiased than being the bias that they are right now.
[48:17.640 -> 48:25.240] Nonetheless, I think next race is going to be a blast for sure.
[48:25.240 -> 48:31.640] I know for a fact that Max is going to be all out, elbows out
[48:31.840 -> 48:35.440] with his maximum aggression and everything.
[48:35.800 -> 48:38.000] And yeah, I'm just looking forward to it.
[48:38.000 -> 48:42.720] I'm just buzzing for it because I know that this championship competition
[48:42.720 -> 48:48.720] is going to go till the end and he's going to just keep on fighting it out.
[48:51.720 -> 48:55.560] But yeah, folks, you know what, it's been very subjective.
[48:55.560 -> 48:59.320] We've tried to be as neutral, but we hate Lewis.
[48:59.320 -> 49:00.360] So, there you have it.
[49:00.360 -> 49:01.880] In the comments.
[49:01.880 -> 49:05.320] And I think this comes from the passion for the sport.
[49:05.400 -> 49:10.400] I mean, I don't personally hate Lewis as such. I mean, it's more about,
[49:10.400 -> 49:12.520] you know, I,
[49:12.960 -> 49:16.760] I hate the fact that I did not get to watch the racing that I was hoping to
[49:16.760 -> 49:21.640] watch. And it's like, it's yeah, I don't know.
[49:21.680 -> 49:23.040] No, you're right. You're right.
[49:23.040 -> 49:26.280] What you're saying is if it was someone else instead of Lewis, who would have
[49:26.280 -> 49:32.360] behaved in the same way, who would have had the same bias backing and would have
[49:32.360 -> 49:36.240] been through the same thing, we would have, you know, hated that person at that point.
[49:36.760 -> 49:39.680] So it's, it's the event that's causing this hatred.
[49:41.280 -> 49:42.280] But folks, you know what?
[49:42.880 -> 49:45.400] Hop onto Twitter, hop onto Insta. We've had some, you know,, hop on to Twitter, hop on to Insta.
[49:45.400 -> 49:51.000] We've had some, you know, very interesting conversation with our fans on this.
[49:51.000 -> 49:56.400] We've got some tweets out there which are being heated discussions of, you know, avenues.
[49:56.400 -> 50:01.900] So hop on, write to us, tell us what's your opinion on this whole thing.
[50:01.900 -> 50:05.180] If you want to take it light, sure let's
[50:05.180 -> 50:10.860] talk about Kimi and his radio message as well. Or the back to the future
[50:10.860 -> 50:17.460] version of Sebin Nella. But it's been a very subjective race. I hope something
[50:17.460 -> 50:27.200] good comes out of it, unbiased comes out of it. Narcissism reduces in the Mercedes garage and Botas finds his balls.
[50:27.200 -> 50:35.600] On that note, this is F1 Fan Fiction signing off until the hungry race.
[50:35.600 -> 50:36.600] Bye-bye.
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