2021 Austrian GP Race Discussion

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[00:16.040 -> 00:21.400] Hello and welcome back to another episode with F1 Fan Fiction.
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[00:38.000 -> 00:47.440] we talk about both the Austrian Grand Prixs combined into into one episode we have had episodes or
[00:47.440 -> 00:52.160] videos actually on the first race if you haven't checked them out go check us out
[00:52.160 -> 00:57.600] on YouTube this week we speak about the second race and pour in our thoughts
[00:57.600 -> 01:02.280] some of our thoughts on the first race as well having said that let's get into
[01:02.280 -> 01:06.320] it so I think Michael Massey basically had a very busy yesterday, right?
[01:06.320 -> 01:16.120] Yeah, right. I think like he had what, too many things in his hand, points, just throwing them off the balcony.
[01:16.120 -> 01:25.340] Yeah, it was, it was, it felt like one of the opera and free shows where he's like, you know, you get a penalty, you get a penalty, you get a penalty, everybody
[01:25.340 -> 01:26.340] gets a penalty.
[01:26.340 -> 01:34.140] Yeah, yeah, I mean, what 1112 or like just crazy number of I, I can't count on both my
[01:34.140 -> 01:36.420] hands how many penalties were given out.
[01:36.420 -> 01:37.420] Let's put it that way.
[01:37.420 -> 01:38.420] Yeah, I lost track.
[01:38.420 -> 01:41.420] I completely lost track.
[01:41.420 -> 01:45.520] It was quite difficult to you know, so you had to do these mental calculations while
[01:45.520 -> 01:49.840] watching the race because you have to add like five seconds to this guy, 10 seconds to the other
[01:49.840 -> 01:56.080] guy and try to make sense of how the you know the result is going to look like. It was quite insane.
[01:56.080 -> 02:02.320] I think the only person who knew whose position was secured was probably Max and then everyone
[02:02.320 -> 02:05.920] else behind him needed some sort of math to be done to their position
[02:07.120 -> 02:15.280] yeah yeah that's that's quite quite funny i mean uh it's it's great though like uh the fact that
[02:15.280 -> 02:20.560] we got to see these many penalties were because people were able to follow each other that well
[02:20.560 -> 02:27.720] and were able to make those moves uh so in a way, I'm quite happy that we did see some really good racing
[02:27.720 -> 02:31.640] throughout the race and the penalties did.
[02:33.600 -> 02:38.120] Thankfully, the penalties did not, you know, ruin anybody's race or,
[02:38.440 -> 02:41.520] you know, change the outcome of the race significantly as such.
[02:41.520 -> 02:45.040] So yeah, that significantly is probably important
[02:45.040 -> 02:52.720] I'm pretty sure Lando is gonna not agree with you poor guy but yeah what was
[02:52.720 -> 03:00.800] going on I think who started off the penalty train as we might lander yeah
[03:00.800 -> 03:11.640] yeah I mean if we if we go a day, I think Vettel's engineers started the whole, the whole train, but yeah, I think Lando in courts may be pushing off
[03:11.640 -> 03:18.720] or whatever. Yeah. Though for Vettel, I want to bring this topic up a little. I'm not entirely
[03:18.720 -> 03:27.600] convinced that the penalty was fair. I mean, I understand if the penalty was given to all the drivers, but singling out Vettel
[03:27.600 -> 03:35.840] in that situation was quite unfair because, so we have this video explaining this on our TikTok
[03:35.840 -> 03:40.880] and Instagram. So go check it out. But basically what happened was that I think science was the
[03:40.880 -> 03:49.040] first person who slowed down and there were a lot of drivers behind him. And so I think Michael Massey had given out a directive before the race,
[03:49.040 -> 03:54.720] before qualifications that you're not allowed to slow down significantly at turn nines and tens,
[03:54.720 -> 03:59.840] because that creates this traffic jam at turn nine. And then that impedes other drivers.
[03:59.840 -> 04:09.160] And that's exactly what happened. Like people started slowing down. And because of that, people who were behind them were caught at that situation.
[04:09.160 -> 04:15.000] And there was nothing they could do. I mean, it's not like Vettel could have just overtaken those guys. That was also going to be unsafe.
[04:15.000 -> 04:28.720] So, I don't see what different Vettel could do in that situation, given that Alonso was coming in in a hot lap. But yeah. I think he was accurate in saying post-race or post-quali
[04:28.720 -> 04:32.920] that if he gets the points, all drivers should get points.
[04:32.920 -> 04:35.560] But I feel like this probably warranties
[04:35.560 -> 04:40.000] for a different structure of penalties
[04:40.000 -> 04:42.360] because I don't see this as a driver penalty, which
[04:42.360 -> 04:44.000] both Alonso and Vettel agree to.
[04:44.000 -> 04:49.000] Because this is a radio engineer's mistake or someone in the garage's mistake.
[04:49.000 -> 04:55.200] And this probably warranties like a team penalty maybe in monetary or some otherwise.
[04:55.200 -> 04:58.800] Like take the constructor points off or whatever, right?
[04:58.800 -> 05:00.800] This can be talked about and debated.
[05:00.800 -> 05:04.700] But it's brutal to have a driver.
[05:04.700 -> 05:06.120] Like probably Vettel would have
[05:06.120 -> 05:09.960] finished a position or two above if you would have started earlier right so I
[05:09.960 -> 05:15.000] don't think that would have mattered if he was there to ruin his race at the last lap
[05:15.000 -> 05:27.200] or that yeah but yeah coming back penalties, what was Sunoda doing there?
[05:27.200 -> 05:31.680] It felt like a copy-paste, replay, whatever you want to call it.
[05:31.680 -> 05:35.280] Breaking the line at the same spot again.
[05:35.280 -> 05:41.020] I was so confused yesterday. I remember I was watching it in the morning
[05:41.020 -> 05:45.600] and I saw Sunoda getting that first penalty during his first pitch top
[05:45.600 -> 05:51.360] for crossing the pit lane white line and I didn't see like you know he gets a penalty and then after
[05:51.360 -> 05:57.040] some time again I see the same graphic and I'm like wait what's going on am I seeing a deja vu here
[05:57.040 -> 06:03.360] you know and I was super confused are they like showing a replay or you know it's just that
[06:03.360 -> 06:08.600] somebody messed up the graphics or something what's going on? Someone in the someone in the
[06:08.600 -> 06:15.080] garage asked him what what went wrong oh wait let me show you what I did 20 laps
[06:15.080 -> 06:27.200] back. He probably is going like worth one penalty point on my license. I think yeah, it's quite weird.
[06:27.200 -> 06:31.000] Like yesterday was just like it seemed like there was an open
[06:31.000 -> 06:34.700] challenge going on where you can incur the most number of
[06:34.700 -> 06:37.800] penalties and everybody was trying their best and I think Kimmy
[06:37.800 -> 06:38.400] came out.
[06:38.500 -> 06:42.700] No, I think Mazipan won that because he got a 30 second penalty.
[06:42.800 -> 06:44.200] Mazipan is always a winner.
[06:44.300 -> 06:45.060] Please note that Mazipan is always a winner. Please note that
[06:45.060 -> 06:51.380] Mazepin is always a winner. Number one in everything. I think what Mazepin was
[06:51.380 -> 06:57.880] going for is a repeat of his historian Grand Prix because in the previous
[06:57.880 -> 07:03.240] weekend he was lapped three times like he's got a plus three. Last weekend or
[07:03.240 -> 07:05.220] like yesterday he was plus two and I or like yesterday. He was plus two
[07:05.840 -> 07:10.300] And I guess like he was just aiming for let's let's maintain some, you know
[07:11.200 -> 07:13.480] Discipline in my results. Yes
[07:15.680 -> 07:21.240] Yeah, and yeah, I'm basically I think he incurred three penalty points as well on his license, that's nice
[07:21.760 -> 07:26.120] Yeah, that's that's kind of as long as he, he knows they are not the, the,
[07:26.120 -> 07:28.640] the brownie points. So no, I think,
[07:28.680 -> 07:31.400] I think he thinks that those are the constructor points.
[07:33.280 -> 07:36.840] He is probably leaving the constructive word that way. So
[07:39.640 -> 07:43.640] I think same to be fair, Latifi did the same thing as well.
[07:43.720 -> 07:47.680] Like he too incurred a 32nd penalty and three penalty points for the same
[07:47.680 -> 07:51.400] reason, not slowing down enough, uh, during the yellow, double yellow flag,
[07:51.400 -> 07:53.400] which was caused by Kimmy.
[07:54.280 -> 07:57.200] But on a serious note there, I mean, I have a question, so I,
[07:57.440 -> 08:02.000] I didn't catch it quite, uh, quite well. I mean, it was all,
[08:02.000 -> 08:11.600] they were all showing the orange colors and you know, the winds and everything. So it was it was easily missed. But how far were they behind that they
[08:11.600 -> 08:18.240] probably failed to slow that quickly and incurred the penalty? Was it like just too close? Or it is
[08:18.240 -> 08:29.400] it is a fair penalty? I think, in any case, whenever there are double yellow flags, it's the driver's responsibility
[08:29.400 -> 08:35.520] to slow down significantly, because the situations where we have double yellows are when there
[08:35.520 -> 08:38.960] is a car in a very dangerous situation in the track.
[08:38.960 -> 08:45.000] And being, you know, being safety, since safety is the most important thing
[08:45.000 -> 08:50.000] I think it's fair regardless of whether they got time to react or not
[08:50.000 -> 08:56.000] because if they don't do that what will happen is that teams will start taking advantage of this
[08:56.000 -> 09:01.000] and try to skirt rules saying that I couldn't see the flag or whatever
[09:01.000 -> 09:05.760] I think it's fair enough. Try to go from plus 2 to plus 1 maybe yeah.
[09:12.080 -> 09:17.840] Exactly so yeah there it is because I think a lot of people have been victims of these yellow flags even earlier so if you remember a couple races ago it was Vettel and Struhl who also like
[09:18.400 -> 09:21.920] faced a similar thing during quali. Failed to slow down yeah.
[09:22.000 -> 09:23.360] during quality. Fail to slow down. Yeah.
[09:26.640 -> 09:27.360] Yeah. Another person setting some record yesterday was
[09:33.760 -> 09:39.600] Gio. Gio had a fastest lap for a change and I couldn't believe my eyes. I mean, yesterday was a day of shocker with replays, you know, that I was doing and Gio having a fastest
[09:39.600 -> 09:46.360] lap. I was like, how is this possible? But sure, he's trying to do something only for me to later realize he
[09:47.680 -> 09:55.040] overtook in a few cars before the safety car went in and got an advantage on his pace
[09:55.920 -> 09:57.920] That's why he got it
[09:58.200 -> 10:04.440] Yeah, it was quite surprising to see that. I was like wait what happened to the alpha did they like, you know
[10:04.720 -> 10:07.440] Turn on their boost or something suddenly
[10:11.040 -> 10:17.280] what else penalties can we remember oh yeah stroll got one stroll had one uh speeding in the pit lane
[10:17.280 -> 10:26.460] hey all by the way I think one thing we gotta mention here is, so first of all, all these steerings have a button called the pit button
[10:26.460 -> 10:30.280] on them, which regulates their speed, caps it off.
[10:30.280 -> 10:33.400] So the revs build up, but the speed gets maintained.
[10:33.400 -> 10:38.300] How is it now possible to still exceed in the pit lane
[10:38.300 -> 10:40.360] once you've pressed that button?
[10:40.360 -> 10:49.100] It is because, so I think the way it works is that even if you have the pit limiter,
[10:49.100 -> 10:53.600] what the pit limiter does is it only like caps the revs.
[10:53.600 -> 10:55.620] It does not actually brake for you.
[10:55.620 -> 11:02.380] So even if you have the pit limiter on, you are still responsible to get the speed below
[11:02.380 -> 11:05.800] whatever the pit speed limit is petalien speed limit is.
[11:06.280 -> 11:11.080] And once you are under the limit, and even if you're, if you have pressed the
[11:11.100 -> 11:15.680] petalien limit button, even if you're like, you know, pushing the throttle to the
[11:15.680 -> 11:17.520] limit, it will still not exceed that.
[11:17.520 -> 11:21.400] But if you're already higher than the petalien limit speed, it's not going to help
[11:21.400 -> 11:21.800] you break.
[11:21.840 -> 11:22.520] So yeah.
[11:22.920 -> 11:23.400] Interesting.
[11:24.200 -> 11:25.440] So that kind of you
[11:25.440 -> 11:32.440] know sets apart really good drivers from others because there is a few tenth of
[11:32.440 -> 11:38.640] seconds to gain at the line where the pit starts yes exactly yeah because if you if
[11:38.640 -> 11:45.080] you are able to maintain a high speed till the very end and break to the right speed and you know continue
[11:45.080 -> 11:52.720] from there you can get a better pitch. Interesting, well all of this is
[11:52.720 -> 11:58.120] obviously a build up to the biggest point debate that's been going on since
[11:58.120 -> 12:05.520] yesterday with Perez at the center of all of it. Which started off with like Lando and Perez.
[12:05.920 -> 12:07.440] And then...
[12:07.720 -> 12:11.600] Yeah, Perez chose to do it again with Leclerc.
[12:12.680 -> 12:18.400] Five seconds for Lando for in courts, pushing another driver off the track.
[12:18.720 -> 12:21.840] And then Perez choosing to do it for two times.
[12:21.880 -> 12:23.360] So that's 10 seconds for him.
[12:24.960 -> 12:26.640] But I think the whole the
[12:26.640 -> 12:36.560] whole question here is, was that penalty justified? And what role is FIA playing and how strict
[12:36.560 -> 12:45.000] it is? Or should we just go Jeremy Clarkson by saying, FIA should just go home and retire.
[12:45.320 -> 12:46.880] They're just ruining the sport.
[12:49.000 -> 12:50.840] Jeremy Clarkson is just a old fart.
[12:50.840 -> 12:53.800] I mean, I enjoy his shows,
[12:53.800 -> 12:58.120] but I really don't pay attention to his opinions
[12:58.120 -> 12:59.820] about F1, really.
[13:00.880 -> 13:03.320] Hey, he says Lando is a mega star.
[13:03.320 -> 13:04.160] How dare you?
[13:02.880 -> 13:04.080] He says Lando is a mega star. How dare you?
[13:04.080 -> 13:12.400] Yeah, though I feel if I did a pretty good job yesterday, that's
[13:12.400 -> 13:19.360] what I feel mainly because let's just examine all these three penalties
[13:19.360 -> 13:22.080] a little, you know, just let's go through them.
[13:22.080 -> 13:26.240] So for the first one, basically, I feel that definitely was justified
[13:26.240 -> 13:32.080] because, uh, in my opinion, if, if the other driver is alongside,
[13:32.080 -> 13:36.040] while you are taking the turn, while you are entering the turn, uh, in
[13:36.080 -> 13:40.880] the famous words from Alonso, you always have to leave the space, you know, and,
[13:40.880 -> 13:45.800] uh, you cannot just push somebody out of the track just to defend your position.
[13:45.800 -> 13:51.400] I mean, I totally understand if you are the person who enters the corner first, at that
[13:51.400 -> 13:55.560] point, you completely own the corner and you can do whatever you want with it.
[13:55.560 -> 13:59.680] But if somebody is alongside, you have to give them space enough that they can at least
[13:59.680 -> 14:01.400] make the corner.
[14:01.400 -> 14:05.200] So in that context, I feel that the first penalty was justified.
[14:05.880 -> 14:07.240] That was given to Lando.
[14:07.960 -> 14:12.960] The second one between Perez and Charles, that I'm I mean,
[14:12.960 -> 14:17.040] yeah, in terms of consistency, it makes sense to give that a penalty as well.
[14:17.200 -> 14:21.320] This is the first first five seconds for Perez you're talking about.
[14:22.120 -> 14:25.120] That was, I think, at basically where Charles was.
[14:25.120 -> 14:26.320] Same spot.
[14:26.320 -> 14:27.240] Same spot. Exactly.
[14:27.240 -> 14:28.200] Yep.
[14:28.200 -> 14:30.200] Charles was also pushed onto the gravel.
[14:30.400 -> 14:33.680] But at that point, if you take a look at the footage again,
[14:34.280 -> 14:36.400] while they were breaking into the turn,
[14:36.960 -> 14:40.160] Charles was significantly behind Perez.
[14:40.520 -> 14:44.880] And as they entered the turn, he basically, you know, did late breaking.
[14:44.880 -> 14:47.140] And that's why he kind of was able to get
[14:47.720 -> 14:52.580] Besides Perez and then at that point from a driver's perspective, they don't really see anything
[14:52.580 -> 14:58.160] Those mirrors are pretty useless you unless and until you actually know that a car is beside you
[14:58.900 -> 15:01.560] you know, you will know that a car is beside you because
[15:01.980 -> 15:07.580] If somebody just dive bombs and late brakes and comes beside you you there's a good chance that you might not see them
[15:07.580 -> 15:11.000] but yeah in terms of consistency it makes sense that they gave him a
[15:11.000 -> 15:15.520] penalty for that too and the third one was definitely justified at least from
[15:15.520 -> 15:19.440] my perspective because they were alongside and yeah you can't just push
[15:19.440 -> 15:25.280] somebody off. I think I think I think there's definitely some subjectivity there
[15:27.280 -> 15:27.760] because
[15:29.760 -> 15:29.920] So so you said
[15:35.120 -> 15:36.120] Agree disagree agree, right? Okay. So for me
[15:41.840 -> 15:44.280] For me, I'm going with agree agree and disagree in the sense that
[15:48.360 -> 15:48.400] Yes, the first one is right on the fence,
[15:52.840 -> 15:57.560] but I like your argument on the sense that if you enter the turn together, then yes, Alonzo's right.
[15:57.640 -> 16:02.320] You, you always leave room, um, which,
[16:02.320 -> 16:05.000] which I just resaw the, the highlight footage and yes, they,-saw the highlight footage.
[16:05.000 -> 16:07.360] And yes, they entered the turn together.
[16:08.000 -> 16:11.760] Sure, Lando had that slight edge advantage.
[16:11.800 -> 16:18.120] But if you rewind back, like for the past three turns, they have been neck and neck.
[16:18.440 -> 16:21.960] So, yeah, you have to leave room.
[16:22.600 -> 16:30.640] And it sort of felt like, yes, Lando was staying too strict on the race line, which eventually pushed Perez off.
[16:31.440 -> 16:33.600] So it's still a very gray area.
[16:33.600 -> 16:37.880] But, you know, there's been some good debates on it.
[16:38.440 -> 16:41.200] Both sides raising very valid points.
[16:41.200 -> 16:48.360] But at this point, having re-seen the footage with Alonzo's argument, I think I agree with the penalty at this point.
[16:48.680 -> 16:54.520] The second one, yeah, I think he just repeated what happened to him. It was just vengeance.
[16:55.560 -> 17:01.240] It was just vengeance. It's just sad that it wasn't Lando next to him and poor Charles had to bear the brunt of it.
[17:01.600 -> 17:12.000] But the third one, I disagree only for the reason that if you see it again, sure, the scenario was similar.
[17:12.240 -> 17:24.440] But what ended up happening was Perez was so fast into that turn that he actually felt hard to keep a balance of his car.
[17:24.440 -> 17:25.000] felt hard to keep a balance of his car.
[17:29.800 -> 17:35.000] And based just on that millisecond of clip or a second of that clip, it feels like a, he could have understood to,
[17:35.000 -> 17:37.480] you know, not in quotes, push Laclerc off,
[17:37.840 -> 17:40.280] which he would have definitely spun.
[17:40.800 -> 17:43.840] And the other thing is if you would have, you know,
[17:43.840 -> 17:52.000] try to actually push, he would have just crashed into Laclerc and both of them would have ended up how Kimi and Vettel ended up.
[17:52.000 -> 18:07.920] So that's my opinion. And I feel like, yeah, Lando and Perez getting 5-5 each is fine. But that second five on Perez, yeah, probably not. Yeah, though I'm still glad that they did consistently
[18:07.920 -> 18:11.680] give out penalties and, but it's weird, you know,
[18:11.680 -> 18:16.520] because if you rewind back to last year on the same track,
[18:16.520 -> 18:19.120] when we had Max versus Charles,
[18:19.120 -> 18:22.700] and that was pretty much a similar situation.
[18:22.700 -> 18:29.120] The only difference was that Charles was pushed onto tarmac and here these guys were like
[18:29.120 -> 18:30.120] pushed onto gravel.
[18:30.120 -> 18:34.000] And yes, gravel is definitely a lot more punishing.
[18:34.000 -> 18:36.520] But yeah, it was a similar situation.
[18:36.520 -> 18:42.080] So there are concerns that people raise that, you know, if you did not punish Max last year
[18:42.080 -> 18:45.760] for this, why are you punishing these guys this year?
[18:45.760 -> 18:49.980] So either you follow it through and through or you don't.
[18:49.980 -> 18:54.380] So you know, there's some consistency within the race, but there's a lot of inconsistency,
[18:54.380 -> 18:55.880] you know, across races.
[18:55.880 -> 18:57.920] So it's a lot confusing.
[18:57.920 -> 19:02.800] I was so I'm so on the fence at this point, even for the first one, really, to be honest,
[19:02.800 -> 19:09.180] I feel like that shouldn't be point but you know what I wanna take a moment here and
[19:09.180 -> 19:15.980] appeal this to all the listeners at this point come tweet us at the ratef1
[19:15.980 -> 19:20.520] fanfiction and tell us what you think your opinion is because this is
[19:20.520 -> 19:27.320] genuinely a gray area we again we agree, we agree, disagree, agree.
[19:27.320 -> 19:31.760] And for me, it's agree, agree, disagree.
[19:31.760 -> 19:35.280] So yeah, pour in your tweets and tell us what you think.
[19:35.280 -> 19:36.720] But coming back to the conversation,
[19:36.720 -> 19:39.960] I think this raises another question,
[19:39.960 -> 19:42.960] which Sarang, you and I were discussing.
[19:42.960 -> 19:45.640] How should FIA in general react
[19:45.640 -> 19:48.320] to certain situations like this?
[19:48.320 -> 19:50.080] And the subjectivity increases again
[19:50.080 -> 19:51.640] when it's gravel versus tar,
[19:51.640 -> 19:54.200] like the synthetic or the tarmac thing, right?
[19:55.560 -> 19:57.720] And I think you raised a very valid point
[19:57.720 -> 20:01.480] because if you are not given these penalties,
[20:01.480 -> 20:03.520] and for that matter, even the plus 30 seconds
[20:03.520 -> 20:04.960] or any other ones, right?
[20:04.960 -> 20:09.080] It sort of encourages you to keep finding these loopholes because
[20:09.080 -> 20:14.000] F historically F1 teams have been very
[20:14.000 -> 20:18.040] notorious in finding these small loopholes to gain that slightest red wine.
[20:18.120 -> 20:19.600] Always living in the gray areas.
[20:20.440 -> 20:26.580] Exactly. Right. So, um, yeah, I feel, I feel that it's very much subjective at this point.
[20:26.580 -> 20:34.180] 11 penalties, too many. I think I let's cap it at should be countable on both of your hands.
[20:34.180 -> 20:45.280] Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of glad that I mean, I kind of do agree with the penalties a little and disagree as well.
[20:45.280 -> 20:46.800] It's very subjective, as you said.
[20:46.800 -> 20:52.840] One of the points with support the penalties is that if we don't punish people
[20:52.840 -> 20:57.200] from like defending their position by pushing out people off the track,
[20:57.200 -> 21:01.800] what will happen is basically that will be the norm and people will just,
[21:01.800 -> 21:04.800] you know, push people off the track to defend their positions.
[21:04.800 -> 21:07.920] And that is going to discourage people from making those moves.
[21:07.920 -> 21:13.000] Because if while making a move, your race gets ruined, you might as well not do it.
[21:13.440 -> 21:19.600] And we've seen this. You raise a very valid point here because we've seen this change come in Hamilton recently.
[21:19.600 -> 21:26.400] Right. Like he was exactly in that cusp yesterday when Lando and Perez were battling it out.
[21:26.400 -> 21:30.500] And you could see he probably just let go of that throttle a bit.
[21:30.500 -> 21:35.700] And he was like, I don't want to get into this mess because I might just end up losing all my points at this point.
[21:35.700 -> 21:40.000] So, we've seen this come up with a few drivers.
[21:40.000 -> 21:43.100] I mean, we'll talk about this in a few minutes as well.
[21:43.100 -> 21:49.800] But Alonso and Russell were in the same situation. and they were backing off one another just to avoid that crash.
[21:50.920 -> 21:52.840] But coming back to Hamilton, right.
[21:52.840 -> 21:54.800] So what was he doing yesterday?
[21:56.600 -> 21:58.800] Yeah, I have no idea what was going on with him.
[21:58.800 -> 22:03.760] I think he did pick up some damage while going on to the curbs.
[22:04.160 -> 22:09.400] And I think that was the main... He incurred, he did not pick it up.
[22:10.920 -> 22:16.000] So I I've seen a few tweets and a few posts about this. Um, I know,
[22:16.000 -> 22:17.920] I know you and I are on the same team here,
[22:17.920 -> 22:21.800] but let me just make this clear for the audience. It was his doing,
[22:22.000 -> 22:27.360] which led him to wherever he was. Yep. yep, yep. I completely agree with that.
[22:27.360 -> 22:35.360] Yeah, people, I mean, I did see a lot of people defend him saying that he had damage to his vehicle, but that was his own doing, right?
[22:35.360 -> 22:37.400] Like, you didn't have to go on the curbs.
[22:37.400 -> 22:39.840] It's not like he was mandated to go on the curbs.
[22:39.840 -> 22:40.360] Exactly.
[22:40.360 -> 22:46.280] And yeah, so he had damage and then he had to face the consequences I mean
[22:46.280 -> 22:53.040] that's life so yeah but I think like before he got that damage there was some
[22:53.040 -> 22:59.000] good battling out happening between him and Lando I liked how he was appreciative
[22:59.000 -> 23:05.560] of how good a driver Lando is there was there was some encouraging radio message or just trying
[23:05.560 -> 23:12.480] to mask behind his slow pace. I don't know. It felt like some you know grandpa
[23:12.480 -> 23:20.680] like newbies like you know like yeah this lad is good. I never thought that he
[23:20.680 -> 23:25.760] would be that good. He was able to keep Hamilton behind for a very long time.
[23:25.760 -> 23:28.280] I mean, that was amazing job by Lando.
[23:28.680 -> 23:33.360] I feel, uh, this race, he got the right machinery because last year, I think
[23:33.360 -> 23:37.240] they did have some issues because Ricardo had some engine problems.
[23:37.240 -> 23:41.080] And because of that, they had to turn down, uh, Lando's engine as well.
[23:41.080 -> 23:46.640] And, and if you remember where he ended up last race, it was like I think 40 seconds behind
[23:47.960 -> 23:49.960] Red Bull and Mercedes so
[23:50.160 -> 23:55.700] There was a clear pace difference between these two races for McLaren and that also showed in the race
[23:56.800 -> 24:00.140] To be honest, I feel like if Lando wanted to keep fighting
[24:00.880 -> 24:06.240] Hamilton he probably could have because if I remember right, he came on to radio saying,
[24:06.240 -> 24:09.640] it's difficult keeping up with him.
[24:09.640 -> 24:11.360] What do we want to do?
[24:11.360 -> 24:13.440] Because it's like, do we want to go back
[24:13.440 -> 24:15.040] to our old strategy and be like,
[24:15.040 -> 24:17.600] let Mercedes and Red Bull fight this out,
[24:17.600 -> 24:19.720] we'll take it one step behind.
[24:20.640 -> 24:21.880] But it was good to see.
[24:21.880 -> 24:28.040] It's sad that the whole penalty play out sort of cost him one position and
[24:28.040 -> 24:33.900] Botas sort of overtook him in the pits with that 5-second stop and go that he served.
[24:33.900 -> 24:38.400] Otherwise, I am pretty sure Lando would have been P2 with Botas P3.
[24:38.400 -> 24:43.900] Yeah, for sure. I think if not the penalty, he could have definitely gotten the P2.
[24:43.900 -> 24:46.800] I think that would have been the case.
[24:46.800 -> 24:50.000] I think nonetheless, he would have still backed Driver of the Day for sure.
[24:50.000 -> 24:52.700] Driver of the Day.
[24:52.700 -> 24:56.700] I think the new way of winning Driver of the Day is just ruining somebody else's race.
[24:56.700 -> 24:59.000] That's what I've learned from the last two races.
[24:59.000 -> 25:03.900] Wait, is that what Kimmy did when he learned he isn't Driver of the Day at the end of the race?
[25:03.900 -> 25:07.000] Yeah, I think so.
[25:07.000 -> 25:12.000] How bad can I go now? Let's see. Can I still get driver of the day?
[25:12.000 -> 25:18.000] Yeah, that was ridiculous, man. I don't know what he was doing. He was probably sleeping in his car.
[25:18.000 -> 25:25.400] Because Vettel was beside him and he just like turned into him for some weird reason and just knocked him
[25:25.400 -> 25:33.200] off. Come on man he's 41 you gotta take those afternoon naps. The race was over for Max.
[25:33.200 -> 25:40.200] He was probably just driving dozed off.
[25:41.200 -> 25:47.580] Yeah it was terrible I mean he uh, Charles like knocked off his
[25:47.580 -> 25:51.680] wing in the last race. And I think that probably angered him. And he was like, you know, I'm
[25:51.680 -> 25:57.580] just going to destroy everybody else's car this time. And he, I think he touched, uh,
[25:57.580 -> 26:03.560] this guy, yeah, George Russell. I think this, yeah, I, I think what happened was he, uh,
[26:03.560 -> 26:07.520] clipped off the wing a little on George Russell's car. And right after that,
[26:07.560 -> 26:12.560] he went and, you know, went into Vettel and yeah, that was super weird.
[26:12.800 -> 26:13.680] And I think before that,
[26:13.680 -> 26:15.400] he had also got a black and white flag as well.
[26:15.400 -> 26:17.120] And there was this radio message.
[26:21.520 -> 26:24.800] We're going to take a second here to laugh this off, but that was,
[26:24.800 -> 26:26.520] that was a hilarious I think
[26:26.520 -> 26:31.400] they just told him after his full penalty like his full warnings were done that if you
[26:31.400 -> 26:36.840] do it one more time you're gonna get a penalty and that obviously flipped him like why are
[26:36.840 -> 26:40.280] you waiting so fucking long to just give me this warning.
[26:40.280 -> 26:43.600] What the fuck is wrong with you?
[26:43.600 -> 26:46.120] It was a terrible day for Kimi, I think.
[26:46.120 -> 26:48.040] He too did pretty bad.
[26:48.040 -> 26:52.400] Though, the icing on the cake was this, that he started the race P16
[26:53.640 -> 26:55.640] and he got a 20 second penalty.
[26:55.640 -> 26:59.720] He was, you know, he and Vettel had crashed.
[26:59.760 -> 27:02.840] You know, he had to kind of recover or he had to drive onto the grass
[27:02.840 -> 27:04.440] for a little bit to get on the road.
[27:04.440 -> 27:06.560] So obviously he wasted a lot of time and all that.
[27:06.800 -> 27:10.680] And still he ended up P15. That is one position above where he started.
[27:12.760 -> 27:15.480] Only, only he can do that. Oh man.
[27:16.400 -> 27:19.760] He was what, second in driver of the day, right? I think he was a good driver.
[27:19.880 -> 27:23.720] Yeah. I think there was this thing going on at our Formula Dank,
[27:23.720 -> 27:26.080] where they were trying to make him the driver of the day.
[27:26.080 -> 27:30.800] Because if you have realized that there is this radio conversation these days, right?
[27:30.800 -> 27:35.720] Like right after the race, where they talk to the driver of the day.
[27:35.720 -> 27:40.880] And basically, these people wanted to get a reaction from Kimi when that radio message comes.
[27:40.880 -> 27:42.880] And that's why he was a number two.
[27:42.880 -> 27:46.320] Oh, man, then I want to see him in i wonder
[27:46.320 -> 27:53.600] what he's gonna say either he's gonna go like oh yeah i will see or he's gonna say how the hell do
[27:53.600 -> 28:05.000] you call me right now i just get on the phone either it's going to be all asterix and completely censored or there will be no response at all.
[28:05.000 -> 28:07.000] Beep, beep, beep, beep. Thank you.
[28:07.000 -> 28:17.600] Yeah, but coming back to the driver of the day, which was Lando, I mean, brilliant drive
[28:17.600 -> 28:25.000] by him. I think he is really growing up to, you know, become the leader in McLaren.
[28:25.680 -> 28:27.880] I had thought that when Ricardo joins,
[28:27.880 -> 28:32.520] he might embarrass Lando, but it's exactly the opposite.
[28:32.520 -> 28:36.280] Lando has, it's not just that he has become
[28:36.280 -> 28:40.280] a very good driver, I think he has grown the team
[28:40.280 -> 28:41.400] along with him as well.
[28:41.400 -> 28:46.560] Like it seems like he is the perfect driver for the team right now
[28:46.560 -> 28:58.260] considering how McLaren have kind of posed their persona as a team of being a young, enthusiastic and
[28:58.260 -> 29:05.520] kind of a young team and Lando kind of fits the bill perfectly for them.
[29:05.520 -> 29:14.240] And he's got this very interesting, what do you say, like a theater mask sort of thing,
[29:14.240 -> 29:19.960] like a smiley face, sad face sort of thing, but like a serious, super intense racing mode
[29:19.960 -> 29:21.120] Lando.
[29:21.120 -> 29:27.160] And then as soon as the race is, the helmet is off, he's just into that fun, uh, 20 year old kid more.
[29:27.360 -> 29:27.860] Lando.
[29:27.920 -> 29:28.420] Yep.
[29:28.520 -> 29:29.020] Yep.
[29:29.120 -> 29:29.620] Yep.
[29:29.880 -> 29:30.380] That's true.
[29:30.400 -> 29:36.400] Yeah. I think he has, he can switch on and off pretty easily into those modes.
[29:36.440 -> 29:37.640] And that's pretty brilliant.
[29:37.680 -> 29:48.160] Uh, at times I don't like him much, like, uh, especially in his, uh, you you know twitch streams and stuff I think I mean yeah he is
[29:48.160 -> 29:54.600] he seems a lot like you know one of those streamers on twitch who are you know just
[29:54.600 -> 30:00.720] very annoying at times but yeah when he is in serious mode you know yeah he really gets
[30:00.720 -> 30:10.500] the job done. Speaking of annoying people, I want to take this moment to say Charles Leclerc annoys me now.
[30:12.700 -> 30:20.600] Yeah, the other driver of the day from the other race who basically followed the same mantra of ruining somebody else's race.
[30:22.400 -> 30:27.000] At least this one didn't take half the grid with him. Yup. Exactly.
[30:27.000 -> 30:32.540] Yeah. Charles, I mean, what to say about him, right? Like, uh, I think we had discussed
[30:32.540 -> 30:40.800] this a little in one of our short clips, but Charles is, uh, he seems like, uh, he is too
[30:40.800 -> 30:47.440] aggressive at times. Uh, and a lot of times it feels like he transfers the responsibility
[30:47.440 -> 30:51.160] onto the other driver that, you know, I am going to take this turn.
[30:51.240 -> 30:54.160] It's up to you whether you want to avoid a crash or not.
[30:54.360 -> 30:55.040] I don't care.
[30:55.480 -> 31:00.320] And that feels like too much of an aggressive stance to take at times.
[31:00.320 -> 31:04.080] And we have seen that a lot of times, even last year, like he crashed into
[31:04.080 -> 31:11.600] his own teammates so many times, uh, crashed three times into Vettel and uh a lot of times like even this year
[31:11.600 -> 31:19.680] like the Monaco crash and then uh last race with Gasly and then I think he also crashed into Kimi
[31:19.680 -> 31:25.720] last race and who else I forget almost clipped off his, punctured him or something.
[31:25.760 -> 31:28.520] Yeah. Yep. Yep. He's been having a lot of incidents lately.
[31:29.360 -> 31:33.960] I think even with the one with Pareh somewhere, it was like him just trying to be him.
[31:35.280 -> 31:49.140] What I don't like, though, is like, again, it comes back to I think what we discussed probably in one of our first few episodes is he is he is self-critical and and self-aware but annoyingly so that at some level it's like,
[31:49.580 -> 31:56.480] yeah, come on, at least be appreciative of whatever is happening with you rather than always being self-critical and annoying.
[31:59.140 -> 32:01.140] Yeah, enough about him, I guess.
[32:02.180 -> 32:07.760] But I want to take a moment here for Ghazali for a second
[32:07.760 -> 32:12.440] because where did he end up I think he ended up P9 or something
[32:12.440 -> 32:20.040] yep P9 but while he didn't have a good result final result like with P9 but it
[32:20.040 -> 32:28.160] felt like he was in that fierce mode yesterday trying to push up the numbers and fight those battles.
[32:28.160 -> 32:35.600] Because I think he had a brilliant one with Ricardo at one point where they were trying to just fight off each other.
[32:35.600 -> 32:37.680] Eventually, Ricardo getting the better of it.
[32:37.680 -> 32:46.680] But I think Gasly is definitely finding his mojo every race from what the season beginning was just him
[32:47.200 -> 32:49.200] Taking it for granted. Yeah. Yeah
[32:49.200 -> 32:56.120] Yeah, Gasly has been improving a lot throughout the season and he is gaining his momentum. But though I think that
[32:57.000 -> 32:58.760] Unfortunately, it's weird though, right?
[32:58.760 -> 33:05.880] like Alfa Tauri has the same engine as Red Bull and it's clear that the Honda engine is really
[33:05.880 -> 33:11.720] powerful and somehow Alfa Tauri is not able to extract the most out of it.
[33:11.720 -> 33:16.360] It probably, you know, differs, obviously it differs in terms of aero and that's where
[33:16.360 -> 33:20.040] the difference is between both these cars.
[33:20.040 -> 33:27.200] But if you consider where he ended up in quali and where he ended up in the race, I think
[33:27.200 -> 33:31.920] they're not able to keep the same pace in the race as well.
[33:31.920 -> 33:37.000] And they are falling back during the race.
[33:37.000 -> 33:48.880] As a passing conversation before we get on to another big topic, I wanna ask you this. What are your thoughts on Aston Martin from both the
[33:48.880 -> 33:54.240] races? Because I think like some qualification results we've seen Vettel all the way up as P4.
[33:55.120 -> 34:01.040] Strolls also be doing brilliant. I mean, final results apart, but just on the track performance
[34:01.040 -> 34:05.000] has been brilliant by Aston Martin. Yep, yep, yep.
[34:05.000 -> 34:07.320] Aston Martin as well,
[34:07.320 -> 34:11.800] they started with a very bad start as such
[34:11.800 -> 34:15.080] because I think the floor change
[34:15.080 -> 34:17.240] affected their high-tech design a lot,
[34:17.240 -> 34:19.960] but I think they have bought in some development parts
[34:19.960 -> 34:22.860] to fix those issues.
[34:22.860 -> 34:26.400] But it's very unpredictable for Aston Martin.
[34:26.400 -> 34:29.660] I oftentimes I'm a lot confused because as you said,
[34:29.660 -> 34:31.920] like sometimes they have these brilliant results.
[34:31.920 -> 34:34.120] They had this podium as well.
[34:34.120 -> 34:34.960] Yeah.
[34:35.840 -> 34:37.520] But this time around,
[34:37.520 -> 34:39.640] it seemed like they had a lot of pace,
[34:39.640 -> 34:44.640] but as the qualification went by and as the race went by,
[34:47.960 -> 34:54.200] they just kept dropping throughout. It's very difficult to get a gauge on them as to what's going on exactly with them.
[34:54.200 -> 35:00.320] Yeah, someone else who probably want to forget the weekend is also Esteban Ocon.
[35:00.320 -> 35:04.480] Both the weekends, just so poor for him, man.
[35:04.480 -> 35:09.040] I think like it's been the curse of signing a new contract sort of deal with him.
[35:09.160 -> 35:13.160] Because as soon as he's done that, I just don't see him finishing the race.
[35:13.480 -> 35:14.880] And if he does, he's not up there.
[35:16.680 -> 35:20.240] It seems as if, you know, he got like a government job.
[35:22.000 -> 35:29.800] He's like, okay, I got the job. Now I'm done. I can just sit and relax. There there's no need to do anything I can pick up my game again in three years.
[35:29.800 -> 35:45.000] And on the other side Alon just trying to get every point that he can so that his contract gets renewed. He fought off poor Russell for that one point.
[35:45.000 -> 35:48.000] I mean, obviously, everyone's going to fight for every point they get.
[35:48.000 -> 35:54.000] But that fight was a brilliant fight nonetheless.
[35:54.000 -> 35:57.000] Heart goes out, man. Heart goes out for Russell.
[35:57.000 -> 36:02.000] I really believed yesterday that your prediction would come true.
[36:02.000 -> 36:08.160] Which is Williams getting a point. And it really did seem that way, like right till the end of the race.
[36:08.160 -> 36:12.440] I think there was, how many? I think there was like six, seven laps remaining.
[36:12.440 -> 36:15.480] And these guys were battling it out at that point.
[36:15.480 -> 36:21.040] And I thought that there was some hope that there's possibility that Russell might hold on to it.
[36:21.040 -> 36:25.540] But yeah, Alonso got it also like in the 68th or the 69th lap
[36:25.540 -> 36:32.860] as like oh man hold it off for two more laps. Yeah but I think he Russell like
[36:32.860 -> 36:38.780] extracted everything that he could from that car that's the absolute maximum
[36:38.780 -> 36:44.220] that they could do I think there was this tweet that I had seen by Williams I
[36:44.220 -> 36:49.720] think it was something like Alfa Romeo had tweeted something like, you know, we have
[36:49.720 -> 36:55.160] made some good improvements in the engine and everything.
[36:55.160 -> 36:56.240] We have gained performance.
[36:56.240 -> 37:02.000] And then Williams replies by saying that we have got George Russell.
[37:02.000 -> 37:12.000] Yeah, I think both the team principals, Mercedes and Williams are going to have some chat that Williams probably wants to sign him again.
[37:12.000 -> 37:16.400] And then Mercedes is thinking we need to send Botas off.
[37:16.400 -> 37:25.280] But that again, right, yesterday's race kind of again proved why Bottas is in that position.
[37:25.320 -> 37:29.760] Yeah. Yes, he was able to gain, he was able to keep that second position.
[37:30.200 -> 37:32.640] Uh, and that's exactly why he's there.
[37:32.680 -> 37:38.560] Like, uh, on the off case where Hamilton does not perform, he still is able to
[37:38.640 -> 37:43.960] gain, uh, you know, the points that Mercedes needs because not a lot other
[37:43.960 -> 37:47.360] teams have that much of a reliable second driver who
[37:48.000 -> 37:52.160] can cover up for the first driver pretty much through the season. Consistently.
[37:52.400 -> 37:55.920] Yeah, I mean Perez is also still finding his mojo somewhere. I mean, he's
[37:56.720 -> 38:02.080] he's definitely improved from the first four races and he's up there in the top fives now
[38:02.640 -> 38:05.200] but he still he's still got some more way to go.
[38:05.760 -> 38:09.280] But yesterday was music to my ears, man.
[38:09.760 -> 38:15.920] Valtteri, it's James, you're free to race Lewis.
[38:16.320 -> 38:17.600] Oh, my God.
[38:17.600 -> 38:26.560] I, it's as those words are as rare as, um, Hey world, this is God.
[38:26.560 -> 38:29.000] We've solved world hunger or something like that.
[38:29.880 -> 38:34.280] Yup. Yup. Yup. I was pretty surprised. I was, I was, I was really, you know,
[38:34.320 -> 38:38.440] watching very closely to see whether they actually call team orders over here.
[38:38.880 -> 38:42.080] Because I mean, the way they have treated Bota still now,
[38:42.120 -> 38:44.800] it really felt to me like they might just say that, you know,
[38:44.800 -> 38:47.000] come into the pits, we are going to change the car with Lewis
[38:47.000 -> 38:50.080] and let Lewis sit in your car and drive.
[38:52.960 -> 38:56.680] That would have been less surprising than what I heard yesterday, to be really
[38:56.680 -> 39:03.400] honest. Because before that, there was a radio message to Botas telling
[39:03.600 -> 39:06.160] you're not going to race Lewis.
[39:06.480 -> 39:07.680] There was that message.
[39:08.040 -> 39:13.240] And I remember thinking to myself, like, sure, that message is out, but is he going to listen to it?
[39:13.640 -> 39:19.400] Right. And then, like, I think they probably also knew, OK, it's not going anywhere.
[39:19.440 -> 39:21.880] So they just gave him the free ropes.
[39:23.120 -> 39:25.360] But it's good to see he at least secured that P2.
[39:25.360 -> 39:29.280] Yeah. And I think for his mental health, I'm glad he got that.
[39:29.280 -> 39:32.560] He got the bragging rights of overtaking Hamilton.
[39:32.560 -> 39:35.760] So, I think that might get him through the season probably.
[39:35.760 -> 39:40.800] But that's interesting, right? Because Lewis now has a two-year extended contract.
[39:40.800 -> 39:45.000] So, he's there until 23. That second seat is still in.
[39:45.000 -> 39:50.000] That proves my theory. That proves my theory. That as soon as you sign your contract, that's it. You're done.
[39:50.000 -> 39:53.000] It's the curse of signing a new contract.
[39:53.000 -> 40:00.000] Yes, because we got the news this weekend, right before this weekend that Hamilton was signed for the two years.
[40:00.000 -> 40:03.000] In that case, I hope Max doesn't sign it until the last week.
[40:03.000 -> 40:11.360] I really hope that. Like, he could have... Christian would have given him his contract and he's just not going to sign it.
[40:11.360 -> 40:17.400] I'm going to wait until... Either I'm securely off and winning or I'm just holding this off.
[40:17.400 -> 40:19.360] Makes sense.
[40:19.360 -> 40:24.800] But securing that position for Valtteri was smooth.
[40:24.800 -> 40:25.800] And his overtake was also clean. But securing that position for Valtteri was smooth.
[40:33.280 -> 40:34.320] And his overtake was also clean, which is something that, you know, if you notice, started happening with Ferrari team orders as well.
[40:37.400 -> 40:37.680] Sainz was given the free ropes on Leclerc.
[40:41.000 -> 40:42.000] He was kind enough to say thank you on it.
[40:43.520 -> 40:48.240] And he did get the job done. What was it? The 70th lap or the 71st lap when he overtook Ricardo.
[40:52.120 -> 41:03.960] But yeah I guess overall this was a brilliant race. I'm happy for Red Bull particularly in the way they've also handled both the victories.
[41:03.880 -> 41:05.100] in the way they've also handled both the victories.
[41:08.640 -> 41:09.240] I think first race, they took the race engineer podium.
[41:15.440 -> 41:16.440] They took Helmut up there, who's their senior technical advisor or just the big daddy out there
[41:28.480 -> 41:32.440] for them. And interestingly enough, it was his debut on that same track 50 years back. So it was just a special, very special moment for him, for the team, for the fans and just everyone.
[41:32.440 -> 41:35.640] And I think like yesterday they took Honda's race
[41:35.640 -> 41:39.440] engineer up there just to make it more special.
[41:39.440 -> 41:41.760] Yeah, I mean, Honda, I'm pretty sure
[41:41.760 -> 41:46.780] they're having a blast right now because they have, you know,
[41:46.780 -> 41:49.320] they have been developing this engine for a while now.
[41:49.320 -> 41:51.560] And it's very odd, right?
[41:51.560 -> 41:56.060] With Honda, like every time they have this winning design, they just quit.
[41:56.060 -> 41:57.200] It just makes no sense.
[41:57.200 -> 42:02.960] They did the same thing with back in the day when like, I think we had discussed this a
[42:02.960 -> 42:06.680] couple episodes back where like the Mercedes
[42:06.680 -> 42:08.600] car is nothing but the Honda car.
[42:08.600 -> 42:13.680] Like they sold off their design to, to what is that?
[42:13.680 -> 42:15.600] I keep forgetting the team's name.
[42:15.600 -> 42:16.600] Ron?
[42:16.600 -> 42:17.600] Ron, Ron Racing.
[42:17.600 -> 42:18.600] Yes.
[42:18.600 -> 42:19.600] Ron GP.
[42:19.600 -> 42:22.680] They sold it off to Ron GP and that was essentially the Honda car.
[42:22.680 -> 42:27.960] And the same thing over here, like they have now built the most powerful engine on the track and they're
[42:27.980 -> 42:31.320] selling off all the IP to Red Bull, which is, yeah,
[42:31.340 -> 42:34.920] which makes me think that this is just going to turn out into a Red Bull
[42:34.920 -> 42:37.920] domination. So in, in, uh,
[42:38.400 -> 42:41.960] in reality it's basically Honda domination. That's always been there.
[42:42.760 -> 42:46.560] That's true. It's a very factual statement
[42:46.560 -> 42:53.680] hidden by bigger names. Exactly. But now that you say this is gonna be like a Red Bull dominance,
[42:54.320 -> 43:03.280] is Max Vettel 2.0? Maybe, could be. I mean Max, I've become a fan of his in recent times.
[43:04.080 -> 43:09.040] When he started F1, I was not that much of a fan of him because he was way too aggressive.
[43:09.040 -> 43:16.880] And, you know, he, he seemed a lot rude as well, but I think over the time he has mellowed a little, he has kind of controlled his aggression.
[43:16.880 -> 43:21.880] And he has now the ability to channel the aggression in the right way.
[43:22.080 -> 43:29.000] And keep calm throughout the race because yesterday's's race was a masterclass from him. It was his first Grand Slam, I think.
[43:29.000 -> 43:35.000] And that's basically like getting pole position, getting fastest lap as well as winning the race.
[43:35.000 -> 43:37.000] He had a two-stopper.
[43:37.000 -> 43:40.000] Yes, and he had a two-stopper, right? Exactly.
[43:40.000 -> 43:50.400] And that's the kind of confidence that you have when you build a gap of 27 seconds and you straight up go and take a pit stop to do a fastest lap while you are the race leader.
[43:50.400 -> 43:52.360] I mean, you have everything to lose at that point.
[43:52.400 -> 43:52.720] Yeah.
[43:52.720 -> 43:53.600] Why would you do that?
[43:53.600 -> 43:58.160] And still, and you know, still finishing the race 15 seconds ahead of Bottas.
[43:58.240 -> 43:58.920] That's insane.
[43:58.960 -> 44:04.600] If he hadn't taken the pit stop, he probably would have ended around 40 seconds or something, which is insane.
[44:04.560 -> 44:07.280] the pit stop, he probably would have ended around 40 seconds or something, which is insane.
[44:12.400 -> 44:13.200] But I think overall, the whole the whole racing situation is getting very tight.
[44:25.840 -> 44:26.500] Besides, besides, make sure Macker, Nick, Nick, Latifi and Mazepin, those three having their own F1 tournament in the last three positions.
[44:27.920 -> 44:33.300] It's gotten very tight. I love how Midpac's gotten so tight that both the races we had
[44:34.080 -> 44:38.600] sort of train forming with Alonso as the engine leader out there.
[44:39.300 -> 44:41.300] But overall, it's just been too tight.
[44:41.300 -> 44:45.760] And you used to see these tightness until like the first 10 laps,
[44:45.760 -> 44:50.960] maybe, but even like in the 30th and 40th and 50th lap, you still see, you know, the mid pack
[44:50.960 -> 44:58.640] together. Yep, yep. I think that what we have had last year, as well as this year, was these
[44:58.640 -> 45:06.540] double headers on the same track, which have, you know, really, I feel they are playing a very
[45:06.540 -> 45:10.640] good role overall because earlier I thought that having two races on the
[45:10.640 -> 45:15.840] same track would, you know, create really boring races, but instead what we are
[45:15.840 -> 45:20.560] seeing is that in the first race, teams basically are using the first race to
[45:20.840 -> 45:27.680] collect some good data on the track and using that to, you know, dictate the strategies
[45:27.680 -> 45:31.560] for the second race. Because if you saw the first race was relatively boring in the sense
[45:31.560 -> 45:37.240] that there were not many overtakes and everything. But the second race was like insane. Like
[45:37.240 -> 45:42.360] people did learn a lot about the track from the first race and did apply that into the
[45:42.360 -> 45:52.680] second one. Yeah, overall, I think this was this was a good weekend as flat and as boring the Austrian
[45:52.680 -> 45:59.880] track is, it's quite fast enough and surprisingly, shouldn't have had undercuts, but we saw undercuts,
[45:59.880 -> 46:02.120] we saw amazing overtakes.
[46:02.120 -> 46:22.360] And I'm really interested to I'm really interested to see where this whole conversation about points goes and I wanna have our listeners and the fans of the sport come in and pour their opinions on Twitter or any other social media where all of these time penalties have been going.
[46:23.120 -> 46:25.080] What should FIA do according to them?
[46:25.080 -> 46:28.440] Because it's not black and white at this point. It is very subjective.
[46:29.280 -> 46:31.280] It is track to track basis.
[46:31.280 -> 46:39.680] And, you know, seeing maybe three corners back because Lando and Perez were battling out for three corners.
[46:39.680 -> 46:42.200] It wasn't that Lando was suddenly surprised.
[46:42.200 -> 46:44.600] Oh, Perez is next to me now.
[46:45.460 -> 46:47.580] So there's too much subjectivity involved.
[46:47.580 -> 46:49.580] We've given our opinions.
[46:49.580 -> 46:52.740] The race, we enjoyed it as much as we thought
[46:52.740 -> 46:54.900] that it was going to be boring.
[46:54.900 -> 46:59.620] We're hoping to see home race for Mercedes next one,
[46:59.620 -> 47:01.380] to see where that goes, because it's
[47:01.380 -> 47:04.500] going to be a super exciting race,
[47:04.500 -> 47:08.800] because Hamilton's always won there in a matter of saying
[47:08.800 -> 47:15.440] and I would want him to win there again a controversial statement from us so
[47:15.440 -> 47:21.640] because I want to see the battle for driver like the driver championship go
[47:21.640 -> 47:26.520] exactly and not just that I think another amazing thing that we have
[47:27.080 -> 47:29.600] to look forward for the next race is the sprint qualifying.
[47:29.880 -> 47:33.160] Oh, yeah. Which is going to be introduced for the first time.
[47:33.160 -> 47:38.480] And I think with a full stadium that they have, at least for now,
[47:38.640 -> 47:41.720] they have the permission to have the race with the full stadium.
[47:41.960 -> 47:45.760] But with the sprint qualifying, that's really going to change things a lot
[47:45.760 -> 47:48.800] and let's see what happens would be really exciting to see
[47:48.800 -> 47:55.360] all right in that case stay tuned for the next episode which is going to be a blast again
[47:55.360 -> 47:57.760] these are your hosts signing off
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