Ep9 - Mexico GP

Episode 9, the boys talk about the shithousery around the Mexico GP and the news in the world of F1

• Cost Cap, finally resolved?
• Blake and Dan Le Mans Sandwich?
• Mexico Strategy
• The Race for P2 in the Constructors
• Fraudwatch
• EngineGoodBoy Award

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* **Episode Overview:**

The ninth episode of the "Engine Breaking F1 Podcast" hosted by Dan and Blake delves into the controversies and news surrounding the Mexico Grand Prix and the wider world of Formula One.

* **Cost Cap Saga:**

- Red Bull Racing and the FIA reached an agreement on a breach of the 2021 cost cap regulations.
- Red Bull initially submitted costs of $114,293,000 against a cap of $118,036,000, resulting in a $4 million shortfall.
- However, a procedural breach was issued due to inaccurate documentation and adjustments, leading to an additional $5.6 million in costs.
- The FIA outlined various inaccuracies, including overstated excluded costs, social security contributions, non-F1 activity costs, bonus understatement, and apprenticeship levies.
- A clerical error was identified in Red Bull's calculation of power unit costs, and there were also issues with travel and maintenance costs.

* **Blake and Dan's Le Mans Sandwich:**

- The hosts discuss the possibility of attending the 2023 24 Hours of Le Mans race together, potentially with Helmut Marko joining them.

* **Mexico Strategy:**

- The hosts analyze the strategies employed by teams during the Mexico Grand Prix, noting that the race lacked excitement due to the large performance gap between teams.
- They speculate that the introduction of new regulations often leads to a shake-up in team performance, and they hope that the gaps will close in the future.
- They also discuss the possibility of a four-tier racing system in Formula One, with significant performance disparities between teams.

* **The Race for P2 in the Constructors' Championship:**

- The hosts discuss the battle for second place in the Constructors' Championship between Ferrari and Mercedes.
- They highlight Ferrari's recent struggles and Mercedes' resurgence in the latter part of the season.
- They speculate on the potential impact of the cost cap breach penalty on Red Bull's ability to develop their car for the 2023 season.

* **Fraudwatch:**

- The hosts discuss various instances of fraud or questionable behavior in Formula One, including the cost cap breach and other controversies.
- They also mention the recent news of Audi's partnership with Sauber and the extension of the Mexican Grand Prix contract until 2025.

* **EngineGoodBoy Award:**

- The hosts award the "EngineGoodBoy Award" to Max Verstappen for his dominant performance in the Mexico Grand Prix, securing his 14th win of the season.

* **Overall Message:**

The episode provides an informative and engaging discussion of the major talking points in Formula One, including the cost cap saga, the Mexico Grand Prix strategy, the battle for P2 in the Constructors' Championship, and various instances of fraud or questionable behavior. The hosts offer their insights and opinions on these topics, while maintaining a neutral and unbiased tone. **Summary of the Podcast Episode Transcript**

In this podcast episode, the hosts discuss the aftermath of the Mexico Grand Prix and recent news in Formula One.

**Cost Cap Controversy:**

* Red Bull Racing exceeded the 2021 cost cap by £432,652, leading to a minor sporting penalty.
* The team faced a $7 million fine and a 10% reduction in aerodynamic testing for 12 months.
* Opinions vary on the severity of the penalty, with some believing it's fair and others considering it too lenient.

**Blake and Dan Le Mans Sandwich:**

* The hosts jokingly discuss the possibility of competing in the Le Mans 24 Hours race together.

**Mexico Strategy:**

* The race featured different tire strategies among the top teams, with Red Bull opting for soft tires and Mercedes choosing mediums.
* Mercedes initially appeared to have the advantage with their one-stop strategy, but Red Bull managed to make their two-stop strategy work.

**Race for P2 in the Constructors' Championship:**

* Ferrari's struggles continued, leaving them in a battle with Mercedes for second place in the constructors' championship.

**Fraudwatch:**

* The hosts discuss potential instances of cheating or bending the rules in Formula One.

**EngineGoodBoy Award:**

* This segment recognizes the power unit that performed the best during the race.

**Highlights:**

* The podcast highlights the exciting qualifying session, with Mercedes showing strong pace and Max Verstappen ultimately securing pole position.
* The race featured a four-group battle, with Red Bull and Mercedes competing at the front, Ferrari trailing behind, and the rest of the field following.
* The different tire strategies added intrigue to the race, but the lack of meaningful track time on certain tires created uncertainty.

**Overall Message:**

The podcast provides an informative and engaging discussion of the Mexican Grand Prix and recent Formula One news, offering insights into the strategies, controversies, and performances of the teams and drivers. **Race Summary:**

- At the Mexico Grand Prix, Red Bull's Max Verstappen secured a dominant victory, leading from start to finish and extending his championship lead.
- Ferrari's struggles continued as Carlos Sainz and Charles Leclerc finished in distant second and sixth place, respectively.
- Mercedes' Lewis Hamilton endured a challenging race, finishing fourth after struggling with tire degradation and strategy issues.
- Sergio Perez of Red Bull and George Russell of Mercedes completed the top five, while Fernando Alonso of Alpine retired due to an engine failure.
- The race was largely uneventful, with few overtakes and strategic battles.

**Key Insights and Controversies:**

- Pirelli's tire compounds were a topic of discussion, with drivers struggling to find the right balance between performance and longevity.
- The cost cap saga took another twist as the FIA finally resolved the issue, bringing some clarity to the financial regulations.
- The battle for second place in the Constructors' Championship intensified, with Mercedes closing the gap to Ferrari.

**Significant Quotes and Statements:**

- "It was a really tough race. The tires were overheating, and we had to manage them very carefully. But we got the job done in the end." - Max Verstappen
- "It was a difficult day for us. We didn't have the pace, and we made some mistakes. We need to learn from this and come back stronger." - Carlos Sainz
- "It was a frustrating race. We had the pace, but we couldn't make it work. We need to figure out what went wrong and improve for the next race." - Lewis Hamilton

**Overall Message:**

The Mexico Grand Prix was a race of contrasts, with Red Bull's dominance and Ferrari's struggles taking center stage. The midfield battle remained tight, and the championship fight is far from over. **Summary of the Podcast Episode Transcript**

The podcast episode discusses the drama surrounding the Mexico Grand Prix, the latest news in Formula One, and various other topics related to the sport.

**Key Insights, Perspectives, or Controversies:**

* **Cost Cap Resolution:** The FIA (Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile) has finally resolved the cost cap controversy surrounding Red Bull Racing. The team was found to have breached the cost cap regulations in 2021, resulting in a $7 million fine and a 10% reduction in wind tunnel testing time.

* **Blake and Dan Le Mans Sandwich:** The hosts discuss the possibility of Blake and Dan, two members of the podcast team, attending the 24 Hours of Le Mans together. They speculate on the challenges and logistics of such an endeavor.

* **Mexico Strategy:** The hosts analyze the strategies employed by the teams during the Mexico Grand Prix. They discuss the impact of the race's unique characteristics, such as the high altitude and thin air, on the teams' decisions.

* **The Race for P2 in the Constructors:** The hosts examine the battle for second place in the Constructors' Championship between Ferrari and Mercedes. They discuss the strengths and weaknesses of each team and predict the outcome of the remaining races.

* **Fraudwatch:** The hosts introduce a new segment called "Fraudwatch," where they nominate individuals or entities for questionable or deceptive behavior in the world of Formula One.

* **Engine Good Boy Award:** The hosts recognize McLaren's pit crew for their impressive 1.98-second pit stop during the Mexico Grand Prix. They praise the team's efficiency and precision in executing the pit stop.

**Overall Message:**

The podcast episode provides an informative and entertaining discussion of various topics related to Formula One, including the cost cap controversy, the race strategies in Mexico, and the battle for second place in the Constructors' Championship. The hosts engage in lively banter and offer insightful perspectives on the sport.

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[03:03.960 -> 03:10.320] You're listening to the most fraudulent F1 podcast with Dan, aka EngineNode11.
[03:10.320 -> 03:13.520] I secretly moonlight as Helmut Marko at race weekends.
[03:13.520 -> 03:15.600] And Blake, aka Brake.
[03:15.600 -> 03:18.720] Echo chambers of farts and idiots on Twitter after races.
[03:18.720 -> 03:21.280] It's the engine breaking F1 podcast.
[03:27.480 -> 03:29.080] Boom, episode nine.
[03:29.120 -> 03:29.920] Get it up here.
[03:30.920 -> 03:31.640] Go on, lad.
[03:31.720 -> 03:32.960] Get it right up there.
[03:33.520 -> 03:34.120] Yeah.
[03:34.760 -> 03:36.800] Yeah, yeah, go on.
[03:37.040 -> 03:37.600] We've had some.
[03:37.600 -> 03:38.080] How we doing?
[03:38.120 -> 03:38.720] Yeah, we're good.
[03:38.720 -> 03:39.920] We've had some banging guests
[03:39.920 -> 03:40.960] the last two episodes
[03:40.960 -> 03:42.240] and now we're going to lower the tone
[03:42.240 -> 03:43.600] again by having it just me and you.
[03:43.960 -> 03:50.640] Yeah, I mean, we had one of my favorite Formula One content creators, F1 Tony, aka Tony Cohen
[03:50.640 -> 03:56.320] Brown and then last week, my brother from another mother, Connor Daly, joined us for
[03:56.320 -> 03:59.040] an episode after running into him in the paddock again in Austin.
[03:59.040 -> 04:00.920] I was like, that's great.
[04:00.920 -> 04:03.180] But you know what?
[04:03.180 -> 04:04.180] Tonight's going to be a night.
[04:04.180 -> 04:05.040] You've kicked the lurgy, you're
[04:05.040 -> 04:09.520] sounding great, you look fresh, you've still got a beard on your face, and I'm looking
[04:09.520 -> 04:14.400] forward to talking about all the shithousery over the last couple of weeks. It feels like,
[04:14.400 -> 04:18.560] you know, all the all the stuff in the system that was going to go wrong. It's happened.
[04:19.200 -> 04:25.200] Fallout. Everything is coming up roses for me. Yeah, yeah, let's go.
[04:25.300 -> 04:30.560] Um, we also were talking before the podcast engine mode 11 on Twitter over 70 K.
[04:30.720 -> 04:36.440] Let's can we get a, can we get a w we get a w homies big old fat w.
[04:37.120 -> 04:43.080] I don't know why, like we said, my, my content is just shite, but I appreciate
[04:43.080 -> 04:45.720] the support of the shite and if you listen to this podcast, you're also a supporter of shite, but I appreciate the support of the shite.
[04:48.760 -> 04:49.720] And if you listen to this podcast, you're also a supporter of shite. So thank you very much.
[04:49.720 -> 04:50.600] I appreciate that.
[04:50.960 -> 04:54.520] Well, for anybody that doesn't listen to this podcast, who the fuck are you?
[04:55.380 -> 04:56.920] Oh, well, my name is Dan.
[04:57.000 -> 04:59.640] Uh, I live in, uh, the Nidge, Stevenage.
[04:59.700 -> 05:05.760] And, uh, for six years, I stole a living off of Red Bull Racing as a senior systems engineer
[05:05.760 -> 05:11.800] until eventually I found out that I was a fraud and I did nothing.
[05:11.800 -> 05:15.160] Now I left because I wanted to spend more time with my kids and that, which is why I
[05:15.160 -> 05:19.880] have decided to abandon them and come and do a podcast instead.
[05:19.880 -> 05:20.880] I love it.
[05:20.880 -> 05:21.880] I love it.
[05:21.880 -> 05:22.880] Get rekt kids.
[05:22.880 -> 05:23.880] No, don't do that.
[05:23.880 -> 05:26.080] But I mean, that's okay.
[05:26.080 -> 05:27.320] We're recording this on Halloween.
[05:27.320 -> 05:30.360] And before we recorded this, I went out trick or treating.
[05:31.360 -> 05:34.080] As you can see, I'm in my Red Bull racing kit.
[05:34.080 -> 05:36.600] I had some 20 pound notes hanging out my pocket.
[05:36.600 -> 05:38.720] I went as the cost cap breach.
[05:40.040 -> 05:43.960] I guess we'll get to that,
[05:43.960 -> 05:46.480] but it seems like they were only like 20 quid over something
[05:46.480 -> 05:48.560] in the end, wasn't it?
[05:48.560 -> 05:49.560] That's gonna be interesting.
[05:49.560 -> 05:55.920] But if anybody's new tuning into the podcast, Dan and I are two complete frauds.
[05:55.920 -> 05:59.320] Dan and I met at Red Bull, but we never actually talked when we were at Red Bull.
[05:59.320 -> 06:04.360] So I spent a couple years in the traveling circus as a trackside performance engineer.
[06:04.360 -> 06:06.980] And now, then I went to work in the simulators,
[06:06.980 -> 06:08.180] a simulator performance engineer,
[06:08.180 -> 06:10.940] did some really cool shit, got to see some cool things.
[06:12.360 -> 06:15.400] And now I'm doing content creation full-time,
[06:15.400 -> 06:18.260] which sounds weird, but there's a video.
[06:19.520 -> 06:20.700] I don't wanna sidetrack too much,
[06:20.700 -> 06:24.380] but there's a video I made about quitting my job at Red Bull,
[06:24.380 -> 06:27.600] because I've achieved everything I wanted to do, and I wanted to try something new. I wanted to do challenge in my
[06:27.600 -> 06:32.400] life. I wanted to, you know, I really enjoyed making gaming content. And then I realized,
[06:32.400 -> 06:35.920] I'm passionate about Formula One. And I know some things that I could share about, I don't know
[06:35.920 -> 06:41.200] everything. And I'm very open about that. That video is blowing up on every social media platform
[06:41.200 -> 06:51.520] I've had in the past couple of months, but it's finally taken off on YouTube. So, uh, we just crushed, uh, 30,000 subs a week ago on YouTube. Uh, then
[06:51.520 -> 06:56.860] today, yesterday, 40,000 subs, and it looks like 50,000 by the end of the week. So there
[06:56.860 -> 07:10.320] goes all of my, uh, first year of content creation and form the one goals smashed. Nice, easy, GG. Yes, I'm now only making probably 10% of my previous salary,
[07:10.320 -> 07:16.360] so I'm winning right now. 40 pounds a week. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. You know, I just follow
[07:16.360 -> 07:20.400] Adrian around because it costs him more money to lean over and pick up the 20 pound note
[07:20.400 -> 07:25.000] and I just kind of go hoover those up. Yeah. It is. It's times too expensive for that.
[07:25.000 -> 07:27.720] So yes, yeah, yeah, that makes perfect sense.
[07:27.720 -> 07:33.720] But speaking of social media goals, did you know that the podcast we've got over 5000
[07:33.720 -> 07:34.720] followers on Twitter this week?
[07:34.720 -> 07:35.720] Wow.
[07:35.720 -> 07:37.920] Big up, big up, big up, big up.
[07:37.920 -> 07:41.800] And the podcast has reached 35,000 listens.
[07:41.800 -> 07:42.800] Let's go.
[07:42.800 -> 07:43.800] I mean, that's crazy.
[07:43.800 -> 07:46.260] I mean, what are you guys doing like imagine?
[07:46.820 -> 07:51.700] Imagine how low the bar must be for you guys to want to listen to our podcast this blows my mind
[07:51.700 -> 07:56.100] But it doesn't say all 35,000 listened all the way through let's be very clear
[07:56.740 -> 08:01.740] 34,999 and there could be people listening to the first 10 seconds going fuck this I'm out
[08:02.180 -> 08:05.520] Yeah, let's go. Let's go get out of here. Crap podcast. But
[08:05.520 -> 08:11.920] no, see, on a serious note, we don't usually go on about this that much. But anybody that's tuned in,
[08:11.920 -> 08:15.360] interacted with us on social media, or just watched it or shared the podcast with your
[08:15.360 -> 08:20.240] friends or your nan or your grandpa. Thank you guys very much because you guys make this fun.
[08:20.240 -> 08:24.320] And if you guys weren't listening to it, we'd probably have canceled it by now. But we're
[08:24.320 -> 08:28.560] having a blast. And also for anybody listening or watching this on YouTube, we
[08:28.560 -> 08:35.480] do record this live on twitch.tv front slash B R R R A K E every week. So usually Mondays
[08:35.480 -> 08:40.440] or Tuesdays will be live. So check us out. We'll post the notifications. We go live.
[08:40.440 -> 08:44.760] But why don't we quit screwing everybody over? We're six minutes in and we haven't even talked
[08:44.760 -> 08:47.680] about any shithousery, fraudulence or drama.
[08:47.680 -> 08:51.520] Well, we still have something about ourselves, so that's quite fraudulent.
[08:51.520 -> 08:52.520] Not fair.
[08:52.520 -> 08:53.520] OK, but you're welcome.
[08:53.520 -> 08:54.520] Mexico.
[08:54.520 -> 08:58.560] Well, before Mexico, how about all the news and drama?
[08:58.560 -> 08:59.560] Talk to me, bro.
[08:59.560 -> 09:01.280] Because boy, have we got a lot of it.
[09:01.280 -> 09:05.120] Well, what about what about news that doesn't have to do with Mexico this year?
[09:06.160 -> 09:12.960] Uh, well, Mexico got extended until 2025. So I mean, technically that's not this year. No,
[09:12.960 -> 09:18.320] but like after this race, I've had, I think we've had a couple of really good Mexico Grand Prix that
[09:18.320 -> 09:30.600] have been entertaining. This one, however, um, at the front of the field was shocking. It was so boring. But hopefully next season, the performance gap will close because we have had new regulations.
[09:30.600 -> 09:34.520] Yes, these regs were meant to make the racing closer.
[09:34.520 -> 09:38.460] But anytime you introduce new sets of regulations, you will have a shake up, you will have teams
[09:38.460 -> 09:40.000] spread out.
[09:40.000 -> 09:45.040] And then hopefully, hopefully by the time we get to the end of 2025, uh, we don't have
[09:45.040 -> 09:46.040] three tier racing.
[09:46.040 -> 09:48.520] But right here, I was thinking about this earlier.
[09:48.520 -> 09:54.240] Do we think Mexico is exciting because we go into it expecting about 400 cars to explode?
[09:54.240 -> 09:58.320] And when it doesn't happen, we all sit there and think, well, this was shite.
[09:58.320 -> 09:59.800] Nah, I wasn't really hoping.
[09:59.800 -> 10:02.640] Do we think the racing is actually genuinely good there?
[10:02.640 -> 10:05.540] We've seen a couple, like, I think everybody was too sensible today.
[10:05.540 -> 10:08.040] There's a couple people taking a few L's,
[10:08.040 -> 10:09.660] Gasman and Ricardo, for example,
[10:09.660 -> 10:13.860] but that's not particularly malicious.
[10:13.860 -> 10:15.540] It was just a little bit of bumping.
[10:15.540 -> 10:17.980] I think the fact that we've effectively got,
[10:17.980 -> 10:19.260] I was gonna say three-tier racing,
[10:19.260 -> 10:20.580] but we actually have four-tier racing,
[10:20.580 -> 10:22.100] which I'll clarify shortly.
[10:22.100 -> 10:23.460] So don't miss out on that.
[10:23.460 -> 10:31.040] And that's a very technical explanation there. Okay and before we move ahead any further a quick PSA to say that if you can hear dogs
[10:31.040 -> 10:34.800] barking in the background that's mine because obviously it's Halloween and trick-or-treaters
[10:34.800 -> 10:40.960] are setting them off. I will try my best to shut them up but bear with me so yeah moving on.
[10:41.840 -> 10:45.440] Well I'm gonna have cats in here in a minute anyway, so. No cats don't make any noise.
[10:46.600 -> 10:49.920] They just sit there and sort of lay on your table and.
[10:50.200 -> 10:52.800] And crash the stream and almost kill the recording.
[10:52.800 -> 10:53.200] Yeah.
[10:53.480 -> 10:54.800] Oh yeah, I did forget about that.
[10:54.800 -> 10:58.440] Well, which one was it that opened about 10,000 tabs on your computer?
[10:58.960 -> 10:59.360] Hmm.
[11:00.080 -> 11:01.000] Sterling, wasn't it?
[11:01.680 -> 11:01.920] Yeah.
[11:01.920 -> 11:03.640] He's a little, he's a little shit.
[11:04.040 -> 11:04.520] Yeah.
[11:05.920 -> 11:13.280] So yes, Mexico extended till 2025. Great. Good. I don't hate the track and I don't particularly
[11:13.280 -> 11:19.040] love it either. I like the stadium section just because I think that's vibes. Yeah,
[11:19.040 -> 11:23.920] the atmosphere on the podium like I watched a video on stream the other day from 2017.
[11:23.920 -> 11:25.600] And I was probably 10
[11:25.600 -> 11:29.680] people from the front row at the podium ceremony in the middle of the baseball stadium. It
[11:29.680 -> 11:35.060] was epic. Martin Garrix, the DJ set dropped and the base was like ripping your chest apart.
[11:35.060 -> 11:41.480] It was it was heavy. So that was that was very cool. That was very cool. And I think
[11:41.480 -> 11:45.280] once the racing gets the cars get closer in terms of overall performance, I think once the racing gets, the cars get closer in terms of overall performance,
[11:45.280 -> 11:52.080] I think we could see some better races this year. Not particularly exciting as a Grand Prix, unfortunately.
[11:52.080 -> 11:55.120] No, but qualifying was good, and we'll go into that in a bit.
[11:55.120 -> 11:55.620] Yeah.
[11:55.620 -> 11:56.820] Qualifying was quite exciting.
[11:56.820 -> 12:05.680] Second piece of news, which isn't so dramatic, Audi and Sauber have officially announced their link up for 2026.
[12:05.680 -> 12:09.360] Now if you're sitting there scratching your head saying, what, who are Sauber?
[12:09.360 -> 12:13.800] That's who Alfa Romeo are if you peel off the sponsorship sticker.
[12:13.800 -> 12:18.000] So, yes, Peter Sauber.
[12:18.000 -> 12:19.520] Peter Kling.
[12:19.520 -> 12:21.000] Based in Switzerland, aren't they?
[12:21.000 -> 12:21.880] I believe, I can't remember.
[12:21.880 -> 12:23.760] I think it's in Hinwill or something.
[12:23.760 -> 12:24.400] Yeah, anyway.
[12:24.400 -> 12:25.680] That is 100% correct.
[12:26.240 -> 12:32.320] Alfa Romeo also announced that they will end the title sponsorship with Sauber by the end of 2023.
[12:32.960 -> 12:39.360] But do not fear because the gap between 2023 and 2026, they'll still be running the Ferrari
[12:39.360 -> 12:44.240] power units, but I'm not sure what they're going to brand themselves as, whether they're just going
[12:44.240 -> 12:51.440] to continue with Saubi yet. Yeah, that's an interesting one because can, yeah, that's like, do they bring
[12:51.440 -> 12:56.480] on Audi as a technology partner in the short term or what? I don't know. I don't know how happy
[12:56.480 -> 13:02.480] Ferrari would be to be on a car that's got Audi stamped on the side of it, let's be honest.
[13:02.480 -> 13:07.600] I don't know how happy Audi would be to have their stamp on the side of a car running those
[13:07.600 -> 13:08.600] engines.
[13:08.600 -> 13:10.840] Yeah, very true.
[13:10.840 -> 13:15.480] So yeah, that will, Audi will start producing the power unit in one of their German factories
[13:15.480 -> 13:17.320] in 2026.
[13:17.320 -> 13:22.200] It's a works sponsorship slash technical partnership with Sauber.
[13:22.200 -> 13:26.000] Now, I know there were some rumors around that Audi were looking to buy into a team
[13:26.000 -> 13:32.000] earlier in the year, but I've not seen any mention if they've actually bought into Salver as part of this.
[13:32.000 -> 13:37.000] That's super interesting, because Porsche wanted a big chunk of the Red Bull deal,
[13:37.000 -> 13:39.000] and that's where that thing fell through.
[13:39.000 -> 13:45.520] So, yeah, that's a very... I think're, watch this space for any developments on what's actually
[13:45.520 -> 13:51.440] happened with that. But yeah, Salver are, or have been in the past fairly recently struggling a
[13:51.440 -> 13:58.560] little bit with the older money. So perhaps maybe there may have been some buyout or not buyout,
[13:58.560 -> 14:03.040] but investment from Audi, but this isn't the first time Audi and Salver have worked together.
[14:03.040 -> 14:05.720] Did you know that Blake? No, I actually didn't know that.
[14:06.080 -> 14:12.000] They have worked together between the years of 2006 and 2014, because Audi,
[14:12.360 -> 14:17.000] when they were running their LMP1 diesels at World Endurance were
[14:17.000 -> 14:18.480] using the Salva wind tunnel.
[14:19.360 -> 14:20.320] Ooh, okay.
[14:20.360 -> 14:20.800] I remember that.
[14:20.800 -> 14:23.080] So there's an underlying relationship there already.
[14:23.680 -> 14:28.340] I saw one of those Audis in Austin at the,
[14:28.340 -> 14:30.160] what is it, the Masters Endurance Race?
[14:30.160 -> 14:32.600] So it's a bunch of old WEC cars.
[14:32.600 -> 14:34.320] There was one of the old open top Audis.
[14:34.320 -> 14:35.360] It was gorgeous.
[14:35.360 -> 14:37.640] You know, the silver red shell.
[14:37.640 -> 14:39.720] Yes, the R8.
[14:39.720 -> 14:40.880] Yeah, R8.
[14:40.880 -> 14:43.600] I kept saying R18 the other day, but it's R8 TDI.
[14:43.600 -> 14:46.560] Yeah, they sound wild, don't it?
[14:46.560 -> 14:48.080] It makes no noise, man.
[14:48.080 -> 14:49.800] I saw the car at the Petit Le Mans,
[14:49.800 -> 14:52.760] and the car's going around at the back into the track.
[14:52.760 -> 14:54.820] There's a double right-hander.
[14:54.820 -> 14:56.360] You hear the tires on the tarmac,
[14:56.360 -> 14:57.240] you do not hear the engine.
[14:57.240 -> 15:01.440] Then you hear like a Maserati or a Corvette or a Panos
[15:01.440 -> 15:04.120] just rip by and the V8's ripping your guts apart.
[15:04.120 -> 15:07.200] But then you see here this, phew this, you're like, what was that?
[15:07.800 -> 15:09.240] Oh, that was probably McNish.
[15:09.920 -> 15:10.840] Yeah, exactly.
[15:10.840 -> 15:11.160] Yeah.
[15:11.680 -> 15:12.320] Yes.
[15:12.360 -> 15:17.160] Um, before I got into F1, I went to Le Mans a few times and I saw him there.
[15:17.760 -> 15:20.800] And that was, uh, an interesting experience.
[15:20.800 -> 15:22.520] Like you say, the sound was very different.
[15:23.120 -> 15:24.920] Can I put myself on Fraud Watch this week?
[15:24.960 -> 15:29.680] Yeah, a hundred percent. Why? What have you done? I've never been to Le Mans. I don't think that's Fraud Watch
[15:29.680 -> 15:36.160] as such I think a lot of people haven't actually been. But I'm a motorsport enthusiast and I've
[15:36.160 -> 15:40.960] been in the UK for almost 12 years and I've never made the journey to Le Mans. To be fair my first
[15:40.960 -> 15:45.640] seven years I was flat out with first year in formula student when I was in uni.
[15:49.320 -> 15:55.780] And then six years I was traveling full time to all the races. So I was like, the fuck am I going to go to, uh, Le Mans for a weekend?
[15:55.800 -> 15:58.360] I've spent 20 plus weekends away.
[15:59.340 -> 15:59.760] Yes.
[15:59.760 -> 15:59.960] Yeah.
[15:59.960 -> 16:03.680] I can understand if you're working in F1, then, um, perhaps maybe spending
[16:03.680 -> 16:08.200] your time off going to another race isn't quite the ideal holiday.
[16:08.200 -> 16:11.080] But next year is the 100th anniversary.
[16:11.080 -> 16:13.280] So I'm going to try and get along to that.
[16:13.280 -> 16:16.360] And if you want to come and share a tent with me, then...
[16:16.360 -> 16:19.200] Oh yeah, dude, I've got lethal farts though.
[16:19.200 -> 16:20.200] Have you?
[16:20.200 -> 16:21.960] Are you big spoon or little spoon?
[16:21.960 -> 16:22.960] Middle spoon.
[16:22.960 -> 16:23.960] Middle spoon.
[16:23.960 -> 16:24.960] Okay.
[16:24.960 -> 16:26.200] There's going to be a third Will we don't know about yet.
[16:26.200 -> 16:27.040] Okay, cool.
[16:27.920 -> 16:28.960] Sarah said she's not coming,
[16:28.960 -> 16:30.120] so I'm not sure who it is.
[16:30.120 -> 16:31.240] It's gonna be someone from the pod.
[16:31.240 -> 16:32.600] We'll let you do a competition.
[16:32.600 -> 16:35.320] If you wanna get sandwiched by me and Blake,
[16:35.320 -> 16:38.840] then hell, enter the competition.
[16:38.840 -> 16:40.440] Let's go.
[16:40.440 -> 16:41.640] That's disgusting.
[16:41.640 -> 16:44.720] What happens in France stays in France.
[16:44.720 -> 16:50.240] But to be fair though, just as a little bit of a thing that we could manifest now,
[16:50.240 -> 16:56.160] I really feel like some content in Le Mans next year could be fucking golden, man.
[16:56.160 -> 17:00.640] Do the road trip, do a vlog, hang out, meet up with some people.
[17:00.640 -> 17:04.480] Somebody in the livestream said that the third wheel is Helmut Marko.
[17:04.480 -> 17:05.160] Yeah, okay. Sure. Um, somebody in the live stream said that the third wheel is helmet Marco.
[17:05.560 -> 17:05.600] Yeah.
[17:06.080 -> 17:06.840] Okay.
[17:07.320 -> 17:07.560] Sure.
[17:09.320 -> 17:09.920] He's got to pay me a lot of fucking money.
[17:16.480 -> 17:16.800] He's got some spare, I think by the sounds of it, but anyway, I'm going to, I'm going to,
[17:17.920 -> 17:17.960] let's, let's get back on track.
[17:18.160 -> 17:18.960] Yeah.
[17:22.320 -> 17:26.000] But like, seriously though, uh, manifest that chat, uh, engine breaking fraud cast at Le Mans 2023.
[17:26.000 -> 17:26.660] Yep.
[17:26.660 -> 17:29.680] I'll be in the background, drunk, rolling around on the floor
[17:29.680 -> 17:33.240] while Blake tries to do a serious content creation.
[17:33.240 -> 17:35.880] Nah, we're going to get canceled, bro.
[17:35.880 -> 17:36.520] Sweet.
[17:36.520 -> 17:39.160] Sweet as a nut.
[17:39.160 -> 17:40.520] So yeah, sorry.
[17:40.520 -> 17:43.080] That was Audi and Salvo, which turned into a Helmut Marco
[17:43.080 -> 17:43.760] sandwich.
[17:43.760 -> 17:48.080] I'm not sure how we got there, but definitely leaving that one on podcast.
[17:48.160 -> 17:49.240] Um, yeah, definitely.
[17:49.240 -> 17:49.840] Don't edit that.
[17:50.680 -> 17:52.080] Don't ration the passion, baby.
[17:52.120 -> 17:57.320] No, uh, Red Bull decided to boycott Sky Sports, which I thought was hilarious.
[17:57.360 -> 18:02.760] So I, Christ, I saw this blowing up all over social media and I really fucking
[18:02.760 -> 18:10.880] struggled to understand what was going on here, so I I'm gonna try and break it down what's happened. Break it down? Oh yeah I see what you
[18:10.880 -> 18:20.720] did there very good very good. Right so Ted Kravitz in his post-US Grand Prix notebook so if you don't
[18:20.720 -> 18:29.000] know who this is it's Ted Kravitz works for Sky Sports. And in the UK, they do like, I think it's like a 30 minute segment post race
[18:29.000 -> 18:33.000] where he walks down the paddock and just sort of gives you a rundown
[18:33.000 -> 18:35.600] of what happened and what not through each team.
[18:35.600 -> 18:36.300] So...
[18:36.300 -> 18:37.800] A notebook starring Ted Kravitz.
[18:37.800 -> 18:38.300] Yeah.
[18:38.300 -> 18:39.500] Or Ted's notebook.
[18:39.500 -> 18:46.320] The savage rumor or what I was told was that he doesn't actually write the notes in that notebook.
[18:48.400 -> 18:52.640] But I've seen people come back at me on Twitter saying, giving me evidence to the contrary,
[18:52.640 -> 18:55.920] so I'm not sure. Well, that's a sick rumor that I'll start.
[18:55.920 -> 18:58.880] I've seen him in the paddock writing in that notebook.
[18:58.880 -> 18:59.120] Okay.
[18:59.120 -> 19:02.800] But maybe it's one of those things he has a ghostwriter where they write the notes and
[19:02.800 -> 19:04.160] he just traces over it.
[19:04.160 -> 19:04.960] Possibly, yeah.
[19:03.540 -> 19:04.540] Maybe it's one of those things he has a ghostwriter where they write the notes and he just traces over it.
[19:04.540 -> 19:05.540] Possibly.
[19:05.540 -> 19:06.540] Yeah.
[19:06.540 -> 19:11.040] Um, so yes, during this, this segment he did, uh, post U S Grand Prix, he said something
[19:11.040 -> 19:17.260] about how Max's title, uh, or no, sorry, how the title was stolen from Lewis Hamilton in
[19:17.260 -> 19:21.380] Abu Dhabi and something about Lewis is an eight time world champion.
[19:21.380 -> 19:22.380] Right.
[19:22.380 -> 19:26.620] So first and foremost, any sensible person, I don't care if you're a Max fan or not,
[19:26.620 -> 19:28.580] if you're probably going to turn around and say, you know what,
[19:29.120 -> 19:31.820] Abu Dhabi 2021 was a bit of a shit show.
[19:31.920 -> 19:32.460] I'll grant it.
[19:32.460 -> 19:33.020] I'll give you that.
[19:33.020 -> 19:33.960] A little bit of one.
[19:33.960 -> 19:35.020] It was a huge shit show.
[19:35.020 -> 19:35.300] Yeah, exactly.
[19:35.320 -> 19:40.880] So, but then no, Christian sort of just apparently, and then we heard that all
[19:40.880 -> 19:42.940] Sky Sports media were getting boycotted.
[19:43.220 -> 19:45.600] Um, there was no comments from any of the drivers or questions.
[19:45.600 -> 19:47.800] Not just UK Sky Sports, no.
[19:47.800 -> 19:48.960] It was all of them.
[19:48.960 -> 19:49.960] Correct.
[19:49.960 -> 19:53.080] So Sky Sports also have Sky Italy and Sky Germany.
[19:53.080 -> 19:57.080] They also got boycotted, but didn't understand why, which I think is hilarious.
[19:57.080 -> 20:00.240] They even tweeted the team, I think, basically saying, what's going on?
[20:00.240 -> 20:02.240] Why have we been included in this?
[20:02.240 -> 20:03.240] Entschuldigung.
[20:03.240 -> 20:04.240] Entschuldigung.
[20:04.240 -> 20:05.100] Achtung, schnell.
[20:06.320 -> 20:08.280] And then, yes, so sorry,
[20:08.280 -> 20:10.680] Christian said there was some derogatory comments made.
[20:10.680 -> 20:12.600] So we took a break from Sky for this race.
[20:12.600 -> 20:14.720] Max was upset, we were upset,
[20:14.720 -> 20:16.960] and we made the decision to stand together as a team.
[20:16.960 -> 20:18.200] Some of the commentaries are fair,
[20:18.200 -> 20:20.740] but some pieces are sensationalist.
[20:20.740 -> 20:22.960] And saying we robbed anyone of the championship,
[20:22.960 -> 20:24.840] as was said in Austin is going too far.
[20:24.840 -> 20:27.000] It is not impartial or fair or balanced.
[20:27.000 -> 20:30.000] We have said our piece and we will go back to normal next race.
[20:30.000 -> 20:32.400] Right, here we go.
[20:32.400 -> 20:33.500] Load it up.
[20:33.500 -> 20:34.500] Here's Dan's hot take.
[20:34.500 -> 20:35.300] Go on.
[20:35.300 -> 20:38.200] I couldn't give a flying fuck about this.
[20:38.200 -> 20:40.800] This is so fucking playground and petty.
[20:40.800 -> 20:41.700] I don't give a shit.
[20:41.700 -> 20:42.800] Sky a mid.
[20:42.800 -> 20:43.800] So who gives a fuck?
[20:43.800 -> 20:44.800] Right?
[20:44.800 -> 20:45.820] Sky just the Waitrose version of WTF1. playground and petty, I don't give a shit. Sky are mid, so who gives a fuck? Right? Sky
[20:45.820 -> 20:49.280] are just the Waitrose version of WTF1. Right?
[20:49.280 -> 20:55.000] Oh, I see what you've done there. Oh, Maddie's gonna love you for this.
[20:55.000 -> 21:05.160] Yeah, just, I really don't give a fuck. Like, who fucking cares if Ted says that and saying that it's not impartial.
[21:05.160 -> 21:12.440] Find me a fucking commentator or sports media, whatever, that is impartial.
[21:12.440 -> 21:13.000] There isn't one.
[21:13.000 -> 21:17.040] Even us, like when we talk, we say we're XM Red Bull.
[21:17.040 -> 21:19.720] We've probably got some rose tinted goggles on.
[21:20.120 -> 21:20.840] Absolutely.
[21:20.920 -> 21:21.520] I don't know.
[21:21.520 -> 21:24.400] It just seems fucking drama for drama's sake.
[21:24.680 -> 21:30.040] It's childish. But I think, I think one of the things that Max touched on and I, I don't
[21:30.040 -> 21:32.920] know where I stand on this because I'm with you.
[21:32.920 -> 21:36.000] Actually, I could probably not give a fuck.
[21:36.000 -> 21:42.080] Like I really couldn't, but there's a lot of shit fighting and people are just like,
[21:42.080 -> 21:44.240] it's just like the Twitter is a cesspit.
[21:44.240 -> 21:45.480] It's terrible. It's disgusting.
[21:45.480 -> 21:48.440] You need a hazmat suit to even fucking open your web browser in the morning.
[21:48.440 -> 21:48.720] But.
[21:50.360 -> 21:54.360] Implying that Red Bull have, you know, deliberately cheated that they stole
[21:54.360 -> 21:55.600] the championship and all this stuff.
[21:56.000 -> 21:59.120] Do not like, I don't understand why people aren't fans.
[21:59.160 -> 22:03.040] And in this instance, I think Ted is a super fan and he loves Lewis.
[22:03.040 -> 22:04.760] And that's fine.
[22:05.200 -> 22:06.960] I don't mind any of that.
[22:06.960 -> 22:11.760] It's just the fact that it's like saying that you guys fuck this.
[22:11.760 -> 22:18.760] You guys, she's like, you need everybody that's upset needs to direct their distrust and their
[22:18.760 -> 22:22.560] dist interest towards the FIA, not the team.
[22:22.560 -> 22:23.560] Yeah.
[22:23.560 -> 22:24.560] Yeah.
[22:24.560 -> 22:28.800] If you turn, turn it around, flip this, flip the roles, right? If that
[22:28.800 -> 22:35.200] had happened in the opposite way, people would mad at the other team. But still, still the problem
[22:35.200 -> 22:40.240] is the FIA and the officiating and the lack of clarity and the inconsistency. That is the problem.
[22:40.240 -> 22:46.260] But I will say, if you're one of those sad fucks that's going on Ted Kravitz's Instagram
[22:46.260 -> 22:51.420] and leaving him hate messages and abusing him, you're a loser.
[22:51.420 -> 22:52.620] That's there's no room for that.
[22:52.620 -> 22:56.860] Like guys, like if you don't agree with somebody, do not do not go at them.
[22:56.860 -> 22:58.420] Like there's there'll be it.
[22:58.420 -> 23:00.600] There's banter, right?
[23:00.600 -> 23:02.340] Which is what we have.
[23:02.340 -> 23:06.000] And then there's just there's just hate. And there's just...
[23:06.000 -> 23:08.000] Yeah.
[23:08.000 -> 23:10.000] Yeah.
[23:10.000 -> 23:12.000] What's the point of hate?
[23:12.000 -> 23:14.000] You're getting too worked up over a sport
[23:14.000 -> 23:16.000] that doesn't give a fuck about you.
[23:16.000 -> 23:18.000] Just ask the drivers how they feel about you.
[23:18.000 -> 23:20.000] Tell them your name first
[23:20.000 -> 23:22.000] and say, hey, do you know me?
[23:22.000 -> 23:24.000] And they're like, never fucking heard of you, mate.
[23:24.000 -> 23:26.960] Daniel Rigato didn't even remember you, did he?
[23:26.960 -> 23:28.960] Well, fucking bastard, man.
[23:30.880 -> 23:31.760] That was classic, Dan.
[23:31.760 -> 23:33.280] And if anybody's wondering what that video was,
[23:33.280 -> 23:37.680] I did a little promo with F1 22, the game,
[23:37.680 -> 23:40.560] and Danny Rick challenge.
[23:40.560 -> 23:43.040] And he challenged me to beat his hot lap.
[23:43.040 -> 23:45.000] I couldn't, and I had to go anyway
[23:45.000 -> 23:48.400] So that's why I packed my bag cuz I knew I was mid, but he
[23:49.120 -> 23:52.920] He blasted me. He pretended he didn't remember me, but then described everything about me
[23:53.440 -> 23:58.400] Dork, but anyway, let's let's let's bury that cuz I'm not too interested in that and like you know
[23:58.400 -> 24:01.120] What if some if a commentator says some shit about you, that's fine
[24:02.320 -> 24:05.920] If they're making if they're lying, that's a problem. And if
[24:05.920 -> 24:13.560] they're entertaining, yeah, like, like, like, you know, like, defamatory false narratives,
[24:13.560 -> 24:17.080] that's one thing. And I don't think they're doing that. I think you can interpret what
[24:17.080 -> 24:21.000] Ted said several ways. And it's just like, if you're annoyed about it, so be it. And
[24:21.000 -> 24:31.400] you have the right to cut them off if you want to, but yeah. It's a very British loving that Sky Sports and I think all they're doing is just sort
[24:31.400 -> 24:41.120] of, you know, putting their flag on the mast and saying, you know, we are, what do they
[24:41.120 -> 24:42.120] call it, Britfosy?
[24:42.120 -> 24:46.480] I don't know, either way, whatever, fine. Sky's shit anyway,
[24:46.480 -> 24:52.000] so if you don't like it, I strongly suggest you don't subscribe to them anymore, you get
[24:52.000 -> 24:57.000] a VPN, and get F1 TV Pro, because it's far superior.
[24:57.000 -> 25:00.280] F1 TV is fucking sick.
[25:00.280 -> 25:05.300] And we get to enjoy Sky Sports for like another, what, seven years or whatever it is.
[25:05.320 -> 25:06.880] Now they got the new exclusive E-Deal.
[25:07.240 -> 25:07.980] Anyway, sorry.
[25:07.980 -> 25:09.040] I went off on a rant there.
[25:09.120 -> 25:12.520] Basically, fuck Sky, big up F1 TV.
[25:13.080 -> 25:16.140] It's all a bit mountain out of a molehill and a bit dramatic.
[25:16.160 -> 25:20.140] So whatever, but it's okay because he's, Christian said in Brazil, we're going back
[25:20.140 -> 25:21.600] to normal, so it was just for this race.
[25:22.720 -> 25:26.720] Um, now I've got that rant out of the way, are you ready for another one?
[25:26.720 -> 25:29.880] Well I don't know necessarily if it's going to be a rant.
[25:29.880 -> 25:32.080] This is the big one.
[25:32.080 -> 25:37.360] And it's so big I've had to put it on a separate notes page.
[25:37.360 -> 25:38.360] Wow.
[25:38.360 -> 25:39.360] Right.
[25:39.360 -> 25:41.320] It's the Cost Cap Saga.
[25:41.320 -> 25:42.320] Let's just rip through it.
[25:42.320 -> 25:47.320] Like I feel like everybody knows about it. What's what's the headlines of this one
[25:47.320 -> 25:49.400] and like, what's your take on it? Because I think that's what
[25:49.400 -> 25:50.160] people want to know.
[25:51.000 -> 25:59.360] So on the Wednesday, the 26th, so the Wednesday of Mexico, the
[25:59.360 -> 26:04.000] FIA and RBR came to an agreed breach agreement, which I think
[26:04.000 -> 26:08.240] we sort of had, we sort of knew that was coming.
[26:08.240 -> 26:09.560] And we're going to break it down.
[26:09.560 -> 26:10.560] So here we go.
[26:10.560 -> 26:18.200] Red Bull Racing submitted costs for 2021 were $114,293,000.
[26:18.200 -> 26:28.560] Now the cap was $118,036,000, whatever. So, so they were basically, they were effectively four grand or 400,
[26:29.320 -> 26:32.040] four mil, four mil, essentially four mil under.
[26:32.080 -> 26:32.320] Yeah.
[26:32.600 -> 26:38.480] But then the cost cap administration, um, issued a procedural breach because
[26:38.480 -> 26:42.520] there was some inaccurate documentation and, and basically Red Bull having
[26:42.520 -> 26:48.000] it inaccurately excluded or adjusted some costs amounted to 5.6 million.
[26:48.000 -> 26:55.000] So these costs include, they overstated excluded costs concerning catering services,
[26:55.000 -> 26:58.000] which is one of the rumors that was going around, wasn't it?
[26:58.000 -> 27:04.000] Costs concerning employer social security contributions.
[27:04.000 -> 27:07.580] Now for our US listeners, I'm not really sure what that would translate to.
[27:07.740 -> 27:10.340] Um, social security would be like, yeah.
[27:10.860 -> 27:11.580] Is it the same?
[27:12.120 -> 27:12.340] Yeah.
[27:12.340 -> 27:14.520] Like, like, like tax.
[27:15.300 -> 27:15.500] Yeah.
[27:15.500 -> 27:22.060] Like a tax off your pay, um, costs pursuant to non F1 activities, uh,
[27:22.080 -> 27:25.000] costs in respect to bonuses
[27:25.180 -> 27:28.860] for the employers, understatement of relevant costs
[27:28.860 -> 27:32.200] in respect of a gain on disposal of fixed assets
[27:32.200 -> 27:35.380] by failing to make the necessary upwards adjustment.
[27:35.380 -> 27:36.300] I don't know what that means.
[27:36.300 -> 27:37.380] I don't give a shit either.
[27:37.380 -> 27:39.800] If you know what that means, big up yourself.
[27:39.800 -> 27:42.340] Costs pursuant to apprenticeship levies.
[27:42.340 -> 27:46.160] So in the UK, if you take on apprenticeships, you get like a
[27:47.600 -> 27:50.560] tax break or something like that. So I think that's related to that.
[27:52.000 -> 27:56.960] This one was interesting, the full understatement of relevant costs concerning the cost of use of
[27:56.960 -> 28:04.240] power units. But then the next point, they say clerical error in respect of Red Bull Racing's
[28:04.240 -> 28:08.840] calculation of certain costs recharged to it by Red Bull powertrains.
[28:08.840 -> 28:14.360] So basically they expensed something wrong and then they received the bill for it for
[28:14.360 -> 28:16.760] the wrong things or something like that, it looks like.
[28:16.760 -> 28:20.440] There's a lot of clerical errors in this and there's a big one I'll get to in a minute.
[28:20.440 -> 28:24.040] And the other ones were certain travel costs and costs of maintenance.
[28:24.040 -> 28:29.040] And what they mean by that is maintenance around the Milton Keynes campus, you know,
[28:29.040 -> 28:30.040] like cleaning facilities.
[28:30.040 -> 28:32.920] Did they ever fix that one toilet upstairs?
[28:32.920 -> 28:34.280] The one that always blocked?
[28:34.280 -> 28:35.280] Yeah.
[28:35.280 -> 28:36.280] No.
[28:36.280 -> 28:38.000] It's been blocked for like four years.
[28:38.000 -> 28:39.000] You know the one.
[28:39.000 -> 28:40.000] Yeah.
[28:40.000 -> 28:41.000] Oh yeah.
[28:41.000 -> 28:42.000] Everyone knows it.
[28:42.000 -> 28:45.000] So once, so once they added those, that 5.6 million of costs
[28:47.040 -> 28:51.360] that they'd incorrectly done to their original 114 million,
[28:52.600 -> 28:57.360] it turns out they were 1.6 over that 118 million
[28:57.360 -> 29:02.360] by 1.8 million, which is 1.6% of the cost cap.
[29:04.680 -> 29:06.420] I'm sorry guys, if this is really,
[29:06.420 -> 29:07.420] you're struggling to keep up,
[29:07.420 -> 29:10.540] but this is how bad it is, it's a nightmare.
[29:10.540 -> 29:12.260] But then this is the fun bit, right?
[29:12.260 -> 29:14.400] So there were 1.8 million over,
[29:15.380 -> 29:16.740] but the FIA actually turned around
[29:16.740 -> 29:17.860] and said to Red Bull Racing,
[29:17.860 -> 29:19.580] if you actually correctly applied
[29:19.580 -> 29:22.420] a notational tax credit within that submission,
[29:22.420 -> 29:30.740] you would have only have been over by 4 hundred and thirty two thousand which is 0.37 percent so hilariously the FIA did
[29:30.740 -> 29:34.480] not only just say to them actually you've calculated this wrong and you've
[29:34.480 -> 29:38.460] gone over they also turned around said actually you could have been a lot lot
[29:38.460 -> 29:45.160] more under if you if you calculated this tax rebate correctly, which I thought was hilarious.
[29:49.240 -> 29:54.040] So in the end, it turns out they have a minor overspend breach of that 432,652 pounds.
[29:54.960 -> 29:58.360] Now the punishment for the incorrect.
[29:58.360 -> 29:59.620] Just to put that in perspective,
[29:59.620 -> 30:02.620] people were like, they're going to be 7 million over.
[30:04.560 -> 30:06.800] They're like less than half a million over, which is still over.
[30:06.800 -> 30:08.700] So, there's a punishment for it.
[30:08.700 -> 30:09.100] Yes.
[30:09.100 -> 30:15.300] So, for the incorrect documentation in regards to the costs, yada, yada,
[30:15.800 -> 30:19.000] that's the $7 million fine, which this is again, this is hilarious.
[30:19.000 -> 30:21.900] I like how they've done all these figures in pounds, but the fines in dollars.
[30:23.100 -> 30:24.000] $7 million.
[30:24.000 -> 30:26.240] They've got to pay that to the FIA within 30 days.
[30:26.880 -> 30:32.560] That doesn't come out of any cost cap, future, past, present, which I thought was another amusing
[30:32.560 -> 30:38.960] little... Is it going into Minicale's pocket? Well, I understand this. When you have to pay
[30:38.960 -> 30:44.480] a monetary fine to the FIA, it goes to their FIA road safety charity thing they do.
[30:46.240 -> 30:49.040] That's like where they buy bottles of wine after the race is on the yachts.
[30:49.040 -> 30:49.280] Properly.
[30:49.280 -> 30:50.800] And invite the team principals.
[30:50.800 -> 30:51.040] Yeah.
[30:52.160 -> 30:55.840] Basically, they're the ones that are going to be buying the really posh sandwiches now.
[30:56.480 -> 30:57.440] Yeah, fuckers.
[30:58.160 -> 31:06.160] But because of that £432,000 being over, that goes into a minor sporting penalty,
[31:06.160 -> 31:10.040] which is the 10% reduction of aero testing
[31:10.040 -> 31:13.480] for 12 months from the date of the agreed breach agreement.
[31:13.480 -> 31:17.100] So that's now basically from a year from that Wednesday.
[31:17.100 -> 31:19.640] Now, aero testing includes obviously the wind tunnel,
[31:19.640 -> 31:22.120] but it also includes CFD testing,
[31:22.120 -> 31:24.860] which I think a lot of people were overlooking.
[31:26.840 -> 31:30.840] Yeah, it's equivalence basically you get so many aero testing units and depending on how
[31:30.840 -> 31:34.120] you apportion your wind tunnel and CFD time there's a sliding scale of which
[31:34.120 -> 31:39.880] you can do that so. Yep and they also have to pay all the costs associated
[31:39.880 -> 31:43.560] with the ABA which when you have a seven million dollar fine I don't really think
[31:43.560 -> 31:46.240] they're gonna notice that part as such.
[31:46.280 -> 31:46.640] No.
[31:47.520 -> 31:50.840] So yeah, I reached out to a few people in different teams as
[31:50.840 -> 31:53.720] well, because when you've worked in F1, you do know people in
[31:53.720 -> 31:58.320] places that have done aero or work with aero.
[31:58.320 -> 32:01.280] And I said, like, what, 10% reduction in aero and CFD, like
[32:01.280 -> 32:02.280] how bad is that?
[32:03.280 -> 32:06.320] And it was kind of split down the middle. So some people say
[32:07.280 -> 32:11.680] it's not really the end of the world, while others have said they're going to drop out the top three.
[32:12.320 -> 32:18.080] So no one really knows what effect this is going to have.
[32:19.520 -> 32:25.520] So I await with bated breath. Me personally, I think this punishment is fine.
[32:25.520 -> 32:26.520] It makes sense.
[32:26.520 -> 32:29.040] Look, if they're a pound over, they're a pound over.
[32:29.040 -> 32:30.760] It is what it is.
[32:30.760 -> 32:31.760] Take it on the chin.
[32:31.760 -> 32:38.880] But I ran a public opinion poll on Twitter, right?
[32:38.880 -> 32:44.000] Which granted, I know I've got a lot of heavy Red Bull bias in my Twitter following.
[32:44.000 -> 32:46.640] So- Some stans. let's just say that outright.
[32:47.080 -> 32:48.560] What's Stan's last name, by the way?
[32:49.560 -> 32:50.600] Smith, Stan Smith.
[32:51.080 -> 32:57.840] Um, so yeah, with that bias in mind, uh, we got 16 and a half thousand votes.
[32:58.480 -> 33:00.680] 12.7% said it's harsh.
[33:01.320 -> 33:03.400] 45% said it's about right.
[33:03.960 -> 33:08.160] And 42.3% said it's too lenient. So again, even Twitter,
[33:08.160 -> 33:12.240] Twitter's a bit split down the middle, it's about right or it's a bit too lenient.
[33:12.240 -> 33:19.680] Of those 16,500 people, how many of those do you think were qualified to make an assessment on that,
[33:19.680 -> 33:25.280] understanding the significant impact of equivalent aerodynamic development hours and so on?
[33:25.280 -> 33:31.320] Exactly the same percent of people that are on this podcast now that qualified to make that sort
[33:31.320 -> 33:37.720] of judgment and that's zero percent. Correct. Correct. I don't know, you don't know, nobody
[33:37.720 -> 33:43.800] fucking knows. No, well and we'll see. And the other thing to keep in mind as well is it's not
[33:43.800 -> 33:45.920] nothing to do with the penalty,
[33:45.920 -> 33:50.960] but the new rules regarding wind tunnel and aero development, there's a sliding scale.
[33:50.960 -> 33:56.160] So if you finish first, you get less time than whoever finished the second and third.
[33:56.160 -> 33:59.920] And if you finish down in like seventh and eighth, you get more than the baseline.
[33:59.920 -> 34:01.240] So you get a lot more.
[34:01.240 -> 34:06.680] So there's going to be a big difference between Red Bull and whoever finishes second in the
[34:06.680 -> 34:10.960] championship this year because Red Bull are getting 10% less than that.
[34:10.960 -> 34:21.240] So but the thing the thing to take note of, though, is the FIA stated the Red Bull appeared
[34:21.240 -> 34:22.760] to have done all this stuff correctly.
[34:22.760 -> 34:23.760] They've been transparent.
[34:23.760 -> 34:25.960] They haven't hidden anything.
[34:25.960 -> 34:28.280] And Red Bull thought they were under.
[34:28.280 -> 34:30.640] And it bothers me, it's like,
[34:30.640 -> 34:33.740] why was there not clarification sooner?
[34:34.800 -> 34:35.640] You know, like, as in-
[34:35.640 -> 34:38.220] I think the whole process has taken far too long.
[34:38.220 -> 34:39.060] Yeah.
[34:39.060 -> 34:42.040] And I think the FIA are partially to blame
[34:42.040 -> 34:43.600] with some of the chaos they've caused
[34:43.600 -> 34:49.080] by just saying Red Bull are over the breach or committed a breach. See, my dogs are angry about it.
[34:49.080 -> 34:56.680] Fucking little shitbags. FIA! They basically threw it out there into the world and left it.
[34:56.680 -> 35:01.120] And then just disappeared for like three weeks. Yeah. Which is, which is, they've done
[35:01.120 -> 35:05.080] themselves no favors because at the end of the day, uh, Red Bull will get
[35:05.080 -> 35:08.740] penalized and they have been.
[35:08.740 -> 35:12.680] Everything's happened, but all they did was just literally they're like, man, the season's
[35:12.680 -> 35:13.920] really fucking boring.
[35:13.920 -> 35:18.440] Why don't we talk with Netflix and kick off a stink bomb and drum up some interest in
[35:18.440 -> 35:20.480] a championship that's fucking...
[35:20.480 -> 35:26.780] Let's forget to carry the one on a few calculations. Let's not claim back the tax correctly
[35:26.780 -> 35:30.340] and give people something to get their teeth stuck into.
[35:31.640 -> 35:36.640] Yeah, me personally, it all seems fine to me.
[35:37.360 -> 35:42.360] So I think that it will not hinder them too much.
[35:45.000 -> 35:45.880] And it also, well, another thing to say is the 2020 free car I think that it will not hinder them too much.
[35:49.640 -> 35:51.320] And it also, well, another thing to say is the 2023 car, most of that's gonna be done already.
[35:51.320 -> 35:56.320] So for the start of 2023, it's not gonna really affect them.
[35:56.560 -> 35:59.100] It's gonna be more sort of that in-season development
[35:59.100 -> 36:00.400] as they go along.
[36:00.400 -> 36:02.120] So we might not see so many upgrades
[36:02.120 -> 36:03.800] towards the end of the year.
[36:03.800 -> 36:09.200] And we might see a questionable start for the 2024 car.
[36:09.200 -> 36:11.000] They'll have to prioritize what they want to do.
[36:11.000 -> 36:14.000] 2023 in-season upgrades or 2024 car.
[36:14.000 -> 36:16.200] So, yeah, we'll see.
[36:16.200 -> 36:22.400] In the ideal world, what I hope as a fan happens is that it brings them all closer together.
[36:22.400 -> 36:25.920] And we actually get a proper ding dong fight
[36:25.920 -> 36:28.920] because I'm just gonna whisper it.
[36:28.920 -> 36:31.600] Even though I'm a massive Red Bull fan,
[36:31.600 -> 36:34.280] season's been a bit boring really, isn't it?
[36:34.280 -> 36:35.720] Yeah, I mean, there's been drama,
[36:35.720 -> 36:37.400] but not really the right kind.
[36:37.400 -> 36:40.200] And it makes me look back and actually miss last season.
[36:40.200 -> 36:41.680] I know everybody got super toxic
[36:41.680 -> 36:43.520] because fans can't deal with the fact
[36:43.520 -> 36:45.440] that drivers make mistakes
[36:45.440 -> 36:50.560] sometimes or they crash or their driver doesn't get along with their other driver so um you know
[36:50.560 -> 36:55.840] just a lot of really mature people that understand sport and can appreciate all that goes into it.
[36:55.840 -> 37:00.720] Yeah we don't we don't want uh we don't want peace we want problems.
[37:01.360 -> 37:03.040] Yeah I want that I want competition.
[37:03.040 -> 37:07.640] Yep bring it on uh so yeah that's I think that's it really for major news points.
[37:08.260 -> 37:08.800] Nice.
[37:09.120 -> 37:10.280] Should we get into the weekend then?
[37:10.320 -> 37:10.680] We should.
[37:10.680 -> 37:11.640] The Mexican Grand Prix.
[37:12.240 -> 37:17.120] Uh, fortunately, um, FP one and FP two were kind of shit sessions, so.
[37:18.040 -> 37:21.800] It would not really, but just for you, I've still taken some notes.
[37:21.920 -> 37:23.320] So I would love that.
[37:23.800 -> 37:26.640] I've just got those now. Yeah, because I was bored
[37:26.640 -> 37:35.600] on my work today, I've decided to re-watch FP1, FP2, FP3 qualifying and the race.
[37:37.120 -> 37:45.900] So I'll smash that out in one day. Yep. So thank you very much for my company that paid for me to do that. Cheers, lads. Yep. FP1, right.
[37:46.000 -> 37:49.600] I noticed when Vettel was in the box in his Aston
[37:49.600 -> 37:52.800] Mine, his steering wheel had a track map on it.
[37:53.300 -> 37:54.700] I've never seen that before.
[37:55.000 -> 37:57.100] I haven't seen that in a while, not since they got
[37:57.100 -> 38:00.300] the PC-8 dashes, you know, with the big square screen
[38:00.300 -> 38:01.000] on the steering wheel.
[38:01.000 -> 38:01.900] Yeah, it was on that.
[38:02.300 -> 38:04.900] Yeah, usually the, ah, a digital map.
[38:05.840 -> 38:09.440] Yes. Yeah, I've seen, teams have been doing that. Yeah. I didn't know if that was a thing. Is it,
[38:09.440 -> 38:14.400] is it just a map or is it a drive tracker? No, it's just a map. It's just a reference. They put
[38:14.400 -> 38:18.880] it in a display position on the steering wheel. Yeah. And if they're stationary and the car's
[38:18.880 -> 38:26.320] plugged in, it'll throw a map up. It was on the umbilical cord so yeah. Okay cool didn't know that so there you go
[38:26.320 -> 38:33.840] I'm glad I asked that. FP1 we had a few newbies or whatever you want to call them young drivers.
[38:33.840 -> 38:39.200] Logan Sergeant in the Williams. This is the funny thing about this right so if you do 100 kilometers
[38:39.200 -> 38:45.500] in an FP1 you get a super license point right? Yeah. Logan Sergeant really needs some super
[38:45.500 -> 38:49.300] license points. Yeah he does so he can get in that Willys next year. Yeah so you
[38:49.300 -> 38:53.200] need a hundred kilometers to get that super license points. How many did he do
[38:53.200 -> 39:00.220] in FP1 Blake? Like just over 99. 96 kilometers. He needed one more lap.
[39:00.220 -> 39:05.440] Pretty much yeah. So he missed out on that super license point. Well done to him.
[39:06.320 -> 39:11.360] Liam Lawson was in the Alpha Tauri, but that didn't really go to plan because he had to pull
[39:11.360 -> 39:16.640] over with a PU issue and then his brakes rather spectacularly caught fire in the stadium section.
[39:17.680 -> 39:24.400] Nick DeVries was in the Mercedes, but then he became Nick DeVries. He became Nick DeVries.
[39:23.440 -> 39:24.760] but then he became Nick Debris. He became Nick Debris.
[39:25.760 -> 39:27.200] Pirellis is scared of debris.
[39:27.200 -> 39:28.040] Yes.
[39:29.120 -> 39:31.440] Jack Dewan was in the Alpine.
[39:31.440 -> 39:34.280] He had to stop early due to a PU issue.
[39:34.280 -> 39:36.720] A sign of things to come, I think, for that team.
[39:37.640 -> 39:39.280] Fittipaldi was in the Haas.
[39:39.280 -> 39:41.240] Yeah, foreshadowing.
[39:41.240 -> 39:43.720] Fittipaldi was in the Haas, then he had to stop.
[39:43.720 -> 39:46.000] Caused a red flag, so he had to stop
[39:46.960 -> 39:50.240] I think at the end of the straight because a bit of smoke started coming out for the engine.
[39:51.040 -> 39:56.160] That would turn into an ice change which means Magnussen would have to take a penalty for the
[39:56.160 -> 40:03.200] race. And Gwen Yuzo basically got stuck because his gearbox refused to change gear. And that was
[40:03.200 -> 40:05.600] pretty much all we had in FP1.
[40:05.600 -> 40:08.040] But we had quite a lot of reliability concerns in there,
[40:08.040 -> 40:10.440] which is something that we get at Mexico.
[40:10.440 -> 40:11.280] Yeah.
[40:11.280 -> 40:12.100] Tell them about the air,
[40:12.100 -> 40:13.160] don't tell them about the air molecules.
[40:13.160 -> 40:14.960] They're sick of Ted talking about the air molecules.
[40:14.960 -> 40:15.960] Oh yeah.
[40:15.960 -> 40:17.260] Basically you're at higher,
[40:18.840 -> 40:21.400] I'm gonna explain it in my way, deal with it.
[40:21.400 -> 40:22.220] Come on.
[40:22.220 -> 40:25.280] You're at higher altitude, the air is less dense.
[40:25.280 -> 40:26.100] Yeah.
[40:26.100 -> 40:30.040] So you can run a fat load of wing on your car
[40:30.040 -> 40:32.900] because the air is less dense, is less drag.
[40:32.900 -> 40:34.400] Because of that, it also means
[40:34.400 -> 40:36.640] it's more inefficient at cooling.
[40:36.640 -> 40:37.480] Yep.
[40:37.480 -> 40:39.960] So there's more concerns over brakes,
[40:39.960 -> 40:42.840] PU, and things like that.
[40:42.840 -> 40:43.680] Anyway.
[40:43.680 -> 40:44.960] And another thing that tends to happen
[40:44.960 -> 40:46.720] is because there's fewer air molecules,
[40:46.720 -> 40:49.040] the turbos need to spin faster
[40:49.040 -> 40:50.160] to get all the air in the engine
[40:50.160 -> 40:52.360] because in an altitude with a turbo engine,
[40:52.360 -> 40:53.960] you do not lose as much power
[40:53.960 -> 40:56.280] or you probably lose very little power
[40:56.280 -> 40:59.080] unless your turbo can't spin fast enough
[40:59.080 -> 41:01.440] because of its sizing.
[41:01.440 -> 41:03.040] And that's a little bit of foreshadowing.
[41:03.040 -> 41:05.600] Which was a. For Ferrari.
[41:05.600 -> 41:09.200] Well, yes, in this instance, but in the past,
[41:09.200 -> 41:11.720] the reason why Red Bull always used to do so well
[41:11.720 -> 41:16.320] is because the PU, Honda PU had a larger turbo.
[41:16.320 -> 41:17.280] Big old blower.
[41:17.280 -> 41:19.200] Than the Mercedes, so it could cope better
[41:19.200 -> 41:20.400] with higher altitude.
[41:22.080 -> 41:22.920] Like this.
[41:22.920 -> 41:24.280] How much can I do that?
[41:24.280 -> 41:26.000] Wow, that was beautiful.
[41:26.000 -> 41:30.000] I've got to kick the cat out, he's in like super lover mode, give me 30 seconds.
[41:30.000 -> 41:34.000] Okay, I'm just going to bang on with FP2 while he throws his cat out.
[41:34.000 -> 41:40.000] So, pre-practice 2 was another one of the Pirelli extended tyre sessions,
[41:40.000 -> 41:44.000] which is a bit boring because they're not allowed to make set up changes or practice starts,
[41:44.000 -> 41:46.080] they have to stick to a baseline.
[41:46.080 -> 41:48.560] So FP2, it was 90 minutes.
[41:49.160 -> 41:50.120] It was a bit dull.
[41:50.400 -> 41:55.520] Not a lot really happened, but Charles did have his rather large shunt in FP2, didn't he, Blake?
[41:56.080 -> 41:56.640] Oh yeah.
[41:56.640 -> 41:58.960] He smashed it up, ripped the back off that thing almost, didn't he?
[41:59.040 -> 41:59.640] He did.
[41:59.800 -> 42:01.880] A big old shunt for him.
[42:02.440 -> 42:06.040] No penalty or anything because everything
[42:06.040 -> 42:07.600] was salvageable, I believe.
[42:08.740 -> 42:11.720] Gwen Uzo, after breaking down in FP1,
[42:11.720 -> 42:14.320] decided to break down again in FP2.
[42:14.320 -> 42:15.320] No, dude.
[42:15.320 -> 42:16.160] With a hydraulic disc.
[42:16.160 -> 42:17.200] He's so unlucky, man.
[42:17.200 -> 42:20.480] I really like him and he's so damn unlucky.
[42:20.480 -> 42:22.120] And he's extremely fashionable as well.
[42:22.120 -> 42:24.560] Yeah, he is, yeah, he's got drip, man.
[42:24.560 -> 42:26.880] Yeah, hella drip Yeah, he's got drip man. Yeah, hella drip hella drip
[42:26.880 -> 42:28.880] I I will say though. I
[42:29.480 -> 42:34.560] Really hate how the FIA have let the teams get involved with the tire testing like oh
[42:34.560 -> 42:38.020] We can't afford testing cuz this and that it's like well, then they're like, right
[42:38.020 -> 42:41.680] Well, we'll just probably say what we need to test for next year because we're gonna go to lower blanket temperatures
[42:41.680 -> 42:46.040] And they don't allow any time in the season for testing. It seems like, oh, it's going to cost engines
[42:46.040 -> 42:46.600] and all this other stuff.
[42:46.600 -> 42:48.400] It's like just fucking make up a rule.
[42:48.400 -> 42:51.520] But like tire testing and FP2 is bullshit.
[42:52.040 -> 42:53.200] It's so bullshit.
[42:53.200 -> 42:54.920] Yes. And so useless.
[42:54.920 -> 42:55.920] It's a waste of time.
[42:55.920 -> 42:57.400] It's terrible to watch.
[42:57.400 -> 42:58.440] It's not fun.
[42:58.440 -> 42:59.680] And I fucking hate it.
[42:59.680 -> 43:02.880] It screams to me of, oh, my God, we forgot.
[43:02.880 -> 43:04.680] We have to make a new compound next year.
[43:04.680 -> 43:06.820] Can we do a tyre test?
[43:06.820 -> 43:07.820] 100%.
[43:07.820 -> 43:14.060] And I wouldn't be surprised with Pirelli if that wasn't far from the truth.
[43:14.060 -> 43:20.120] All they need to do is fork out the fucking cash and buy a mule car from someone next
[43:20.120 -> 43:23.180] year. And they're not going to do it because they're, I'm not going to bet.
[43:23.180 -> 43:24.780] They used to have one, didn't they?
[43:24.780 -> 43:30.560] Yeah, they did. in the day but they need to fucking fork out the cash and buy
[43:30.560 -> 43:36.160] a test car because how else are they going to develop tires because teams aren't going to agree
[43:36.160 -> 43:41.680] to do anything that's going to cost them cost cap. So unless the FIA figures this out we've got the
[43:41.680 -> 43:45.000] next few years, next year lower blankets. The year after, no blankets.
[43:45.000 -> 43:47.000] They need some testing.
[43:47.000 -> 43:51.000] Yeah. Yeah. So there you go. That was that.
[43:51.000 -> 43:56.000] FP3. There wasn't really much to say about it, really.
[43:56.000 -> 44:02.000] The only thing I noted down was Mercedes did like a 1-2 towards the end
[44:02.000 -> 44:06.660] and they looked quite significantly quicker than other people.
[44:06.660 -> 44:09.820] So was that just a glory run do you think?
[44:09.820 -> 44:17.020] Yeah, they were showboating because in qualifying nobody approached those times until Q2.
[44:17.020 -> 44:19.620] So you think they turned it up a little bit or under-fuelled it?
[44:19.620 -> 44:28.800] Yeah, or something. And maybe there's a good reason for doing that. So I don't think it was all engine, because that's a lot of power to turn up.
[44:28.800 -> 44:31.240] I think they probably, they might have run lower fuel
[44:31.240 -> 44:33.740] because often things that happen,
[44:33.740 -> 44:35.640] you don't see people doing it too often in FP3,
[44:35.640 -> 44:37.540] they usually have a bit of fuel in the car.
[44:37.540 -> 44:40.400] It's probably somewhere between 20 and 40 kilos of fuel
[44:40.400 -> 44:42.000] in P3 for a low fuel run.
[44:42.000 -> 44:44.220] But what they could have done is said,
[44:44.220 -> 44:45.400] usually when we take the fuel out,
[44:45.400 -> 44:47.780] we have different balance problems.
[44:47.780 -> 44:49.640] And they're like, right, let's set up the car for qualifying.
[44:49.640 -> 44:53.620] So let's see what the car's like on fumes,
[44:53.620 -> 44:54.840] fuel it for two laps.
[44:56.520 -> 44:58.760] And to get that to make the most out of it,
[44:58.760 -> 45:01.660] because the fact that nobody got even remotely close
[45:01.660 -> 45:03.420] to those lap times until Q2.
[45:05.400 -> 45:09.780] Yeah, well, so the possibility that they did that
[45:09.780 -> 45:12.700] for some balance issues or to investigate some balance
[45:12.700 -> 45:16.000] during qualifying leads us nicely into qualifying.
[45:16.000 -> 45:16.840] And the Mercedes.
[45:16.840 -> 45:17.680] That's a nice session.
[45:17.680 -> 45:20.080] Mercedes were looking awfully quick in qualifying.
[45:20.080 -> 45:21.520] Absolutely, yeah.
[45:22.400 -> 45:28.640] And I mean, like, yeah, what do we have in Q1? Oh, man, that was emotional.
[45:28.640 -> 45:34.240] I mean, I fed him with his disappointed Q1 radio message.
[45:34.240 -> 45:36.480] Oh, yeah, we got the message again, didn't we?
[45:36.480 -> 45:41.280] I'm sad, but he did the same that time, identical to Mick and the Haas.
[45:42.240 -> 45:46.920] Yes, he did. But I believe the way it works is because Mick did it first,
[45:46.920 -> 45:49.680] he technically is the position above Seb.
[45:49.680 -> 45:50.760] Correct.
[45:50.760 -> 45:51.600] But it doesn't matter
[45:51.600 -> 45:53.680] because they were both out in Q1 anyway, so.
[45:53.680 -> 45:55.880] Somebody popped a lap in like late in that run
[45:55.880 -> 45:57.220] and dunked them all.
[45:58.240 -> 45:59.080] Yeah.
[46:00.000 -> 46:03.600] Hamilton was fastest in Q1, I believe.
[46:03.600 -> 46:05.960] So a bit of hopium there for the Merc fans.
[46:05.960 -> 46:07.920] I know there's some of you listening
[46:07.920 -> 46:09.920] and you are going through it this year.
[46:12.960 -> 46:15.340] Max did an extra outlap I noted down here.
[46:16.220 -> 46:17.740] Was you aware of this?
[46:17.740 -> 46:19.880] They've been doing that a couple of times.
[46:19.880 -> 46:22.720] It looks like we got another instance of it again in Q1.
[46:22.720 -> 46:26.400] So they do a outlap, slow lap, push lap, or they might have aborted.
[46:26.400 -> 46:28.080] I didn't know if he had a fast sector one or not.
[46:28.080 -> 46:33.280] So they do that sometimes where they do an outlap and then a push lap.
[46:33.280 -> 46:36.720] And it has something to do with, I'm assuming the tires.
[46:36.720 -> 46:37.920] I guarantee it's the tires.
[46:40.480 -> 46:44.800] So yeah, at Q1 we lost Latifi, Albin, Stroll, Vettel, Mick.
[46:45.000 -> 46:45.520] It's kind of the usual crowd, really, isn't it? I don't think anyone's that surprised with that bunch. So yeah, Q1 we lost Latifi, Albin, Stroll, Vettel, Mick.
[46:47.480 -> 46:50.660] It's kind of the usual crowd really, isn't it? I don't think anyone's that surprised with that bunch.
[46:50.660 -> 46:51.560] No.
[46:51.560 -> 46:55.280] Q2, again, nothing really happened in Q2
[46:55.280 -> 46:57.560] apart from Hamilton was fastest again.
[46:59.160 -> 47:03.000] At this point I was starting to think, maybe, maybe.
[47:03.000 -> 47:05.000] We've got a Defcon 4 on the beard.
[47:05.000 -> 47:07.400] And if anybody's listening to the podcast for the first time,
[47:07.400 -> 47:08.700] you haven't heard it before.
[47:08.700 -> 47:10.400] If Mercedes win a race this year,
[47:10.400 -> 47:15.200] Dan is shaving his beard off after he plays Father Christmas in December.
[47:15.200 -> 47:16.300] Yep.
[47:16.300 -> 47:21.600] So the beard was starting to twinge a little bit at Q2.
[47:21.600 -> 47:23.400] Did you talk to it at all?
[47:23.400 -> 47:27.000] The beard? No, I just stroked it a little bit.
[47:27.000 -> 47:28.000] Yeah, fine.
[47:28.000 -> 47:30.000] Blasted it with nicotine and coffee.
[47:30.000 -> 47:31.000] Hell yeah.
[47:31.000 -> 47:34.000] It's what all content creators are running on.
[47:34.000 -> 47:37.000] I'm just running on sadness.
[47:37.000 -> 47:41.000] I don't have any sad music available to play for that, I'm afraid, but yeah.
[47:41.000 -> 47:43.000] Oh, I'll have to get some on the soundboard.
[47:43.000 -> 47:44.000] Okay.
[47:44.000 -> 47:48.360] Q3. Hamlet lost his first time due to track limits.
[47:48.800 -> 47:55.360] So his second run basically had to be a good one, otherwise he was in trouble.
[47:55.360 -> 47:56.560] He didn't have a bank collapse.
[47:57.100 -> 48:00.240] And it was faster than the track limit one as well.
[48:00.500 -> 48:01.000] Yep.
[48:01.200 -> 48:07.120] But it looked close between Mercedes and Max. Both the Mercedes were trading purple
[48:07.120 -> 48:12.720] sectors with Max, but then Max just dunked like 0.3 of a second on them, which I thought
[48:12.720 -> 48:14.240] was hilarious after all that.
[48:14.240 -> 48:18.160] So looking at it, I think he probably didn't get his sectors all together. And then in
[48:18.160 -> 48:26.800] Q3 final run, he finally smashed it in. George, excuse me, George and Lewis did have a little bit of time. They didn't put their perfect
[48:26.800 -> 48:32.040] sectors together on that final lap, but I mean, there's still a couple of tenths off,
[48:32.040 -> 48:37.680] man. Not too shabby. It's the closest we've seen them since Hungary, where Russell was
[48:37.680 -> 48:38.680] on pole.
[48:38.680 -> 48:46.480] Yeah, and that still seems wild to me that even back as far as Hungary, Mercedes managed to get a poll this year.
[48:46.480 -> 48:48.800] Because let's not beat around the bush.
[48:48.800 -> 48:51.600] The W13 has been a bit of a shitbag this year.
[48:51.600 -> 48:57.200] But this is what happens when you call your car or reference the number 13 in your car.
[48:57.200 -> 48:58.200] Because there's-
[48:58.200 -> 49:00.040] The RB13 was dog shit.
[49:00.040 -> 49:01.040] Yep.
[49:01.040 -> 49:02.040] I was about to say.
[49:02.040 -> 49:07.280] Let's go back to the happy memories of the RB13. Oh, dude, the tagline for that was unlucky for some.
[49:07.280 -> 49:10.000] It's like, yeah, for us, this is a shitload of DNFs.
[49:10.720 -> 49:11.760] Oh my God.
[49:11.800 -> 49:12.720] Fun times.
[49:13.240 -> 49:13.920] Fun times.
[49:13.960 -> 49:14.200] Yeah.
[49:14.360 -> 49:17.280] Um, but, um, speculate real quick.
[49:17.440 -> 49:20.280] I will speculate why Mercedes are so quick.
[49:20.360 -> 49:24.960] So the trend, the so far this season, let's, let's take from Hungary
[49:24.960 -> 49:25.960] forwards because earlier in the season, let's take from Hungary forwards because earlier
[49:25.960 -> 49:29.480] in the season there were a lot of other issues. It seems like they've sorted a bunch of those
[49:29.480 -> 49:41.140] issues with sea mammals. The W13 tends to go well at high drag, low efficiency circuits.
[49:41.140 -> 49:49.520] So when you tend to put more wing on and the cars, you know, you could like especially tracks tracks like Hungary, we just put a big, nearly Monaco spec rowing on it. The biggest thing
[49:49.520 -> 49:53.520] you can, um, this one as well. It doesn't matter that the top speeds are high. It matters in terms
[49:53.520 -> 49:59.280] of the efficiency where they're at. So that seems like a factor. So Brazil's next it's another high
[49:59.280 -> 50:05.040] altitude circuit, but it's not the lowest or it's not the high, high, high, high, high downforce
[50:05.040 -> 50:14.440] track. So I expect them to go reasonably well. But I do expect them to be as close. I don't
[50:14.440 -> 50:20.240] think so. I don't think as close, but but at the same time, I think we should talk about
[50:20.240 -> 50:25.840] the race because there's a lot of implications on compromises of the cars qualifying versus race.
[50:27.520 -> 50:35.520] Hell yeah let's get on to the race because we're 45 minutes into the podcast and we've not even
[50:35.520 -> 50:45.240] talked about the race yet. The race is kind of, the race just kind of flows man. Should I kick this one off? Hit it, go for it.
[50:45.240 -> 50:46.240] Hit it!
[50:46.240 -> 50:50.720] Pre-race, we got the grid, everything sorted.
[50:50.720 -> 50:52.880] Qualifying was exciting, actually.
[50:52.880 -> 50:56.080] I was excited about qualifying and it finished with a bang.
[50:56.080 -> 50:57.080] I think it was good.
[50:57.080 -> 50:58.080] Snapping on pole.
[50:58.080 -> 51:01.480] I was not expecting that, honestly, especially after seeing, I think I got a little bit blinded
[51:01.480 -> 51:02.800] by the showboating in P3.
[51:02.800 -> 51:06.620] But then as soon as, I was like, wait, they're not doing those lap times yet.
[51:06.620 -> 51:08.600] I was like, okay, a little showboating.
[51:08.600 -> 51:15.720] But the pre-race, Stroll had earned himself a three place grid penalty after he launched
[51:15.720 -> 51:20.200] Alonzo into lower orbit in Texas and Magnuson changed some power unit components.
[51:20.200 -> 51:23.880] So he had a five place drop for the race.
[51:23.880 -> 51:25.840] Then we got to the race start.
[51:25.840 -> 51:29.220] The bags we call them,
[51:29.220 -> 51:32.580] the blankets come off of the black and round things.
[51:33.620 -> 51:35.060] What do we notice?
[51:35.060 -> 51:36.860] Red Bull, soft?
[51:36.860 -> 51:39.660] Yeah, we got some split strategies,
[51:39.660 -> 51:40.780] well not split strategies,
[51:40.780 -> 51:41.900] but different sort of strategies
[51:41.900 -> 51:43.220] throughout the teams at the start.
[51:43.220 -> 51:45.400] And this is where my excitement first started building.
[51:45.400 -> 51:46.800] I thought, oh, here we go.
[51:46.800 -> 51:47.900] This is going to be a good one.
[51:47.900 -> 51:48.600] Go on lad.
[51:48.600 -> 51:49.400] Go on lad.
[51:49.400 -> 51:53.500] So yeah, we had the Red Bulls on softs and the Mercs on mediums.
[51:53.500 -> 51:54.400] Medium.
[51:54.400 -> 51:55.200] Mediums.
[51:55.200 -> 51:58.500] I didn't even fucking pay attention to what Ferrari we were on because I think we were
[51:58.500 -> 51:59.800] going to be quite early on.
[51:59.800 -> 52:01.300] This was going to be painful for them.
[52:01.300 -> 52:05.080] They're in the, they, Ferrari are where Mercedes have been most
[52:05.080 -> 52:06.320] of the season in no man's land.
[52:07.280 -> 52:07.760] Yeah.
[52:07.800 -> 52:09.800] So they could have been on West for all I know.
[52:09.800 -> 52:11.480] I didn't really pay a huge amount of attention.
[52:12.040 -> 52:16.560] Oh, but someone just mentioned this in the chat before we had the race start,
[52:16.560 -> 52:18.840] we had the Mexican F1 theme music.
[52:18.840 -> 52:19.340] Did you hear that?
[52:19.340 -> 52:20.240] The mariachi theme.
[52:20.240 -> 52:21.680] It was so good.
[52:21.880 -> 52:24.040] Oh, it was spectacular.
[52:24.640 -> 52:29.180] If you haven't heard it, look it up because that was magnificent.
[52:29.180 -> 52:32.500] Yeah, I did enjoy that.
[52:32.500 -> 52:38.540] So I mean, just before we've even left the grid, as soon as the covers come off, we're
[52:38.540 -> 52:40.440] like, oh, okay.
[52:40.440 -> 52:42.000] We get to the race start.
[52:42.000 -> 52:46.760] Everybody's got a reasonable-ish start. Hamilton gains a spot,
[52:46.760 -> 52:49.440] and I'm really disappointed in George Russell.
[52:50.840 -> 52:54.680] Yeah, he dropped back two places, was it?
[52:54.680 -> 52:56.400] It's not that he dropped back two places,
[52:56.400 -> 52:58.040] it's that he didn't dive bomb anybody.
[52:58.040 -> 52:59.680] Well, no, there was no terrorism.
[52:59.680 -> 53:04.040] He said he was gonna dial down the terrorism, I believe,
[53:04.040 -> 53:05.520] in one of his interviews.
[53:05.520 -> 53:07.600] Defcon 4 on the terror level.
[53:08.320 -> 53:12.400] Yeah, he's moved on to hearts and minds, Operation Hearts and Minds now.
[53:13.440 -> 53:16.240] Did you see his line in the press? He's like,
[53:16.240 -> 53:19.440] if it was anybody except for Hamilton, I would have run him off the track.
[53:19.440 -> 53:22.320] I was like, go on, lad! He's not hiding anything.
[53:22.320 -> 53:26.200] He is true to himself, his stare frightens me, but you know what?
[53:26.940 -> 53:28.380] I was like, I'm like you, George.
[53:28.380 -> 53:29.900] You're in an F1 car and I'm not.
[53:29.900 -> 53:31.100] So yeah, exactly.
[53:31.100 -> 53:32.740] Fucking get in there.
[53:33.640 -> 53:36.180] Stroll had a stinker of a start again.
[53:36.180 -> 53:38.940] He's been doing really, really good on race starts and restarts.
[53:38.940 -> 53:41.280] Stroll up five.
[53:41.280 -> 53:43.500] Yeah, Albon, Fedele up two as well.
[53:43.600 -> 53:48.360] So this thing with Stroll, I think this is what I was referencing to the other week.
[53:48.360 -> 53:51.720] Stroll has these moments, right, where he does things like this, like he'll make up
[53:51.720 -> 53:55.720] five places at the start or whatever, and then I'll turn around and say, you know what,
[53:55.720 -> 53:59.640] Stroll's actually not that bad of a driver, but then he'll have a complete bozo moment
[53:59.640 -> 54:03.640] like we saw in Austin, where he went into low orbit, or sent Alonso into low orbit,
[54:03.640 -> 54:07.440] and you think, oh yeah, St stroll, yeah. He's so inconsistent.
[54:07.440 -> 54:10.800] He balances out, man. I think he's balancing out.
[54:12.240 -> 54:13.280] So yeah, anyway.
[54:14.960 -> 54:21.520] Um, and after the race start, like, we're just watching Hamilton on the back of Max.
[54:25.000 -> 54:26.240] of Max, we're watching Russell following Perez
[54:29.880 -> 54:31.320] and then Ferrari kind of disappear off the back of that train.
[54:32.280 -> 54:34.400] And it's kind of a four group race at this point.
[54:34.400 -> 54:37.040] We've got Red Bull and Mercedes
[54:37.040 -> 54:39.460] who are racing each other on merit,
[54:39.460 -> 54:43.060] albeit on different strategies, which is interesting.
[54:43.060 -> 54:45.800] We've got Ferrari by themselves, completely by themselves.
[54:45.800 -> 54:47.000] We've got everybody else.
[54:47.000 -> 54:49.460] And then we've got Nicholas Latifi.
[54:49.460 -> 54:53.020] After his first stop, he does not rejoin the pack
[54:53.020 -> 54:54.800] and he finishes two laps down.
[54:54.800 -> 54:56.120] So we don't need to speak of him again.
[54:56.120 -> 54:59.320] He's had a terrible weekend, unfortunately for the lad.
[54:59.320 -> 55:02.880] But the front of the race is the most interesting.
[55:02.880 -> 55:04.660] When there's a bunch of stuff happening in the back
[55:04.660 -> 55:05.880] and I will get back to that. The front of the race is the most interesting. When there's a bunch of stuff happening in the back and I will get back to that.
[55:05.880 -> 55:07.540] The front of the race is the most interesting though
[55:07.540 -> 55:10.720] because we're looking at this, I'm looking at this,
[55:10.720 -> 55:15.580] and I'm thinking Red Bull soft, Mercedes medium.
[55:17.200 -> 55:18.880] Red Bull two stop.
[55:18.880 -> 55:22.360] Mercedes might have it with the one stop
[55:22.360 -> 55:26.000] and effectively.
[55:29.600 -> 55:29.640] Mercedes on one step harder compound can match the Red Bull pace.
[55:32.660 -> 55:34.640] They don't have a chance at overtaking or attacking them, but they can match and they can stay close.
[55:36.100 -> 55:39.080] But what's, what's the strategy?
[55:39.140 -> 55:39.740] We don't know yet.
[55:40.640 -> 55:43.540] Well, no, but I was the same opinion of you.
[55:43.640 -> 55:47.520] As soon as I saw the bullies, the bullies, that's what I'm going to call them now, the
[55:47.520 -> 55:55.760] bullies on the softs, I thought, oh, okay, it's going to be a medium and a soft strap.
[55:55.760 -> 56:03.600] But then Mercedes, they came off well, obviously, Red Bull pitted first on the mediums.
[56:03.600 -> 56:05.840] Yeah, pit out of that group.
[56:05.840 -> 56:07.840] On lap 23 or something.
[56:07.840 -> 56:10.840] And then when I saw the Mercedes go onto the hards,
[56:10.840 -> 56:13.840] I thought, oh, they've done Red Bull here,
[56:13.840 -> 56:16.840] because there's no way they're going to get those mediums to the end.
[56:16.840 -> 56:17.840] No.
[56:17.840 -> 56:20.840] And what happened? They got the mediums to the end.
[56:20.840 -> 56:22.840] But still, yeah.
[56:22.840 -> 56:24.840] This was the most exciting part of the race for me,
[56:24.840 -> 56:28.800] seeing how these alternative strategies sort of played out.
[56:28.800 -> 56:33.340] And at the same time, that's also what killed the race because it turns out you probably
[56:33.340 -> 56:36.240] could have put the wets on and just gone to the end of the race anyway.
[56:36.240 -> 56:42.520] Yeah, like F1 manager, beta F1 manager strat, you know?
[56:42.520 -> 56:48.520] But it's, it's weird because like, here's, here's my take on. So like, the interesting thing is, when you have a weekend like this for a sprint
[56:48.520 -> 56:52.340] weekend, okay, sprint weekend is different, because you get two races and get to do a
[56:52.340 -> 56:56.580] long stint, you know, like a third stint of a race on a certain tire, and you get to learn
[56:56.580 -> 57:02.300] about that tire. But you remove the track time, nobody did any meaningful running on
[57:02.300 -> 57:08.600] a hard and nobody did any particularly meaningful high fuel running in my opinion, like they're extrapolating it strategists
[57:08.600 -> 57:13.180] are reaching their their pooling resources, they're pulling numbers from other tracks
[57:13.180 -> 57:17.040] other races this year.
[57:17.040 -> 57:18.640] It leaves a lot of uncertainty.
[57:18.640 -> 57:28.080] So my take is Mercedes did not have the confidence that soft, medium, medium was fast, and they didn't
[57:28.080 -> 57:30.840] have the confidence that they could do a soft, medium, one stop.
[57:30.840 -> 57:34.480] They said, you know what, we think the Red Bull are going to go for the fast strat.
[57:34.480 -> 57:36.680] Why don't we go medium, hard and make it work?
[57:36.680 -> 57:39.840] And there's a couple of reasons, and I'm working on a video on that on BreakF1.
[57:39.840 -> 57:43.760] I should have it out Wednesday on digging into the details, but we're going to give
[57:43.760 -> 57:44.760] you guys a little teaser here.
[57:44.760 -> 57:46.500] We're going to talk about it.
[57:46.500 -> 57:49.640] Yeah, and one of the things that you mentioned
[57:49.640 -> 57:53.520] during your live watch along,
[57:53.520 -> 57:54.720] which I thought was quite interesting,
[57:54.720 -> 57:58.040] is that it wasn't necessarily the degradation of the tires
[57:58.040 -> 57:58.880] that was the issue,
[57:58.880 -> 58:01.760] but it was the temperature window they were in.
[58:01.760 -> 58:09.120] Could you explain a bit more for idiots like me? So, yeah, I mean, typically, and it's not a linear scale, your
[58:09.120 -> 58:12.920] softer tires work at cooler temperatures, and your harder
[58:12.920 -> 58:18.680] tires. I just had a huge brain fart because my cat's meowing
[58:18.680 -> 58:23.520] outside. So the softer tires can't get as hot and the harder
[58:23.520 -> 58:26.480] tires basically.
[58:26.480 -> 58:28.800] Need more energy to keep them working.
[58:28.800 -> 58:30.120] And that's that's one of the big things.
[58:30.120 -> 58:35.960] So the harder the tire is, the slower your pace and the window might be lower.
[58:35.960 -> 58:36.960] Is that higher?
[58:36.960 -> 58:37.960] Sorry, the window?
[58:37.960 -> 58:38.960] Sorry, the window might be higher.
[58:38.960 -> 58:39.960] I just had a huge break.
[58:39.960 -> 58:40.960] So the window might be higher.
[58:40.960 -> 58:43.960] So for example, what we saw during the race was.
[58:43.960 -> 58:47.200] You even heard Max talking to his race engineer
[58:47.200 -> 58:50.860] about ways to put more energy into the tires and you don't have to worry about saving the
[58:50.860 -> 58:51.860] tires.
[58:51.860 -> 58:54.400] You can push now to keep them working.
[58:54.400 -> 58:58.080] Lewis, on the hard, was struggling massively.
[58:58.080 -> 59:01.220] And you look at his lap times, you know, he did have to come through traffic, but when
[59:01.220 -> 59:05.760] he'd go through traffic, he'd lose a lot of performance and he
[59:05.760 -> 59:12.880] just couldn't get those tires in the window to work well. Did you think that is that related to
[59:12.880 -> 59:19.680] the atmospheric conditions that we get in Mexico or is that just a misominer? No I mean that will
[59:19.680 -> 59:25.080] impact the convection or transfer of temperature from the surface of the tyre to the air.
[59:25.080 -> 59:30.200] But the overriding thing was putting enough stress in the tyre to keep it going.
[59:30.200 -> 59:31.200] Okay.
[59:31.200 -> 59:39.080] So, do you think for next year, maybe Pirelli are going to go a step softer?
[59:39.080 -> 59:40.080] Possibly.
[59:40.080 -> 59:44.880] Or do you think they should have?
[59:44.880 -> 59:46.000] I don't know, it was interesting.
[59:46.000 -> 59:49.000] It just wasn't very good racing because Ferrari
[59:49.000 -> 59:53.000] turned their car down so much and then the rest of the field were so shit.
[59:53.000 -> 59:57.000] Yeah. In regards to Ferrari as well, sorry I'm jumping about here.
[59:57.000 -> 59:57.500] No, no.
[59:57.500 -> 01:00:00.500] Did you see the... there was a photo of the engine cover after Friday
[01:00:00.500 -> 01:00:03.000] and it was all bubbling and paint was all peeling off and it was overheating.
[01:00:03.000 -> 01:00:06.760] No. No, I didn't see that.
[01:00:06.760 -> 01:00:08.680] Some of the coolers were getting nuked.
[01:00:08.680 -> 01:00:11.240] Yes, it did look very toasty.
[01:00:11.240 -> 01:00:13.600] But yeah, I just had a huge brain fart
[01:00:13.600 -> 01:00:14.560] talking about tires there.
[01:00:14.560 -> 01:00:15.400] It's been a long week,
[01:00:15.400 -> 01:00:18.400] but one of the main issues with the harder compounds
[01:00:18.400 -> 01:00:20.040] was keeping enough energy in them
[01:00:20.040 -> 01:00:21.960] to keep the tire in the window.
[01:00:21.960 -> 01:00:23.280] If you back off,
[01:00:23.280 -> 01:00:24.900] and they talked a lot about lifting and coasting,
[01:00:24.900 -> 01:00:29.240] which is at the end of the straight, you're lifting off the throttle and waiting, you
[01:00:29.240 -> 01:00:34.960] know, 25, 50 meters before attacking the brake pedal. That saves fuel. It's a good way to
[01:00:34.960 -> 01:00:39.640] go fast for a race strategy. Unfortunately, you lose a lot of tires and brake temperature
[01:00:39.640 -> 01:00:44.480] as a result of that. So yeah, and if they brought one step softer, that would have made
[01:00:44.480 -> 01:00:49.720] it more interesting, but then possibly you would see nobody running the soft. So it's like you
[01:00:49.720 -> 01:00:55.600] even you base no matter what they do, there's, there's going to be a suboptimal tire.
[01:00:55.600 -> 01:01:00.920] So have you looked, you probably have, I know this is you, but the stint times for Max on
[01:01:00.920 -> 01:01:05.000] the medium were or every single one of his times in what?
[01:01:07.180 -> 01:01:09.460] 35 laps, yeah.
[01:01:09.460 -> 01:01:12.460] But all 122s apart from the VSC lap.
[01:01:12.460 -> 01:01:15.880] So basically, the more laps you do on a tire,
[01:01:15.880 -> 01:01:17.160] it's losing a little bit of performance,
[01:01:17.160 -> 01:01:18.720] but as you do more laps, you're burning fuel,
[01:01:18.720 -> 01:01:23.080] so the tire degradation was matching the fuel effect,
[01:01:23.080 -> 01:01:24.520] and super consistent.
[01:01:24.520 -> 01:01:25.920] And the medium, he was able
[01:01:25.920 -> 01:01:31.860] to keep in the window and Lewis was just struggling on that hard tire. You could see the inconsistency
[01:01:31.860 -> 01:01:36.600] in his lap times, not an indication of him driving poorly, but an indication of him trying
[01:01:36.600 -> 01:01:39.960] different things to try and get the hard tire in the window.
[01:01:39.960 -> 01:01:45.180] Max's fuel and tire wear were in equilibrium. Yes. Do you like that?
[01:01:45.280 -> 01:01:46.280] Ooh, nice.
[01:01:46.280 -> 01:01:47.080] Big word there.
[01:01:47.480 -> 01:01:49.160] Did you stroke the beard when you say that again?
[01:01:49.320 -> 01:01:50.320] Equilibrium.
[01:01:51.280 -> 01:01:54.320] It's the name of my new fragrance that's coming out.
[01:01:54.840 -> 01:01:55.760] Oh goodness.
[01:01:55.760 -> 01:02:00.280] Smells like cigarettes and stale coffee and disappointment.
[01:02:01.360 -> 01:02:04.720] You can buy it from Poundland this Christmas.
[01:02:10.200 -> 01:02:11.240] Oh, you're gonna get Maddie to market it for you as well. Yeah, maybe.
[01:02:11.240 -> 01:02:18.600] So I flipped that whole thing on its head and called Will Buxton a waitrose Matt Gallagher.
[01:02:18.600 -> 01:02:21.480] Oh, I love it.
[01:02:21.480 -> 01:02:23.480] I love it.
[01:02:23.480 -> 01:02:28.440] So there you go. I'm working my way to get blocked by every single sort of
[01:02:28.440 -> 01:02:31.340] personality and journalist on the grid. To be fair, the
[01:02:31.340 -> 01:02:34.440] preorders for that fragrance are already coming in. I can see
[01:02:34.440 -> 01:02:37.720] them coming through right now in the live stream, so that's
[01:02:37.720 -> 01:02:40.520] pretty impressive. But yeah, so like realistically, that's kind
[01:02:40.520 -> 01:02:44.520] of the crux of the race. Russell at one point was like, let me
[01:02:44.520 -> 01:02:45.120] stay on these mid jams and I'll go tox of the race. Russell at one point was like let me stay on these mid jumps
[01:02:45.120 -> 01:02:50.880] and I'll go to the soft to the end but realistically Russell's pace was not good enough and he was
[01:02:52.160 -> 01:02:57.840] he was quite a far way behind that it wasn't going to impact his race to to check out I don't think
[01:02:57.840 -> 01:03:04.560] the longer you stay on that medium he was losing pace to the Red Bulls on new mediums at a decent
[01:03:04.560 -> 01:03:06.900] rate so I don't think that was
[01:03:06.900 -> 01:03:10.980] going to work in his pit wall said it wasn't going to work. And honestly, this point by
[01:03:10.980 -> 01:03:17.660] starting on the medium, they had made their bed. That was the race. They played their
[01:03:17.660 -> 01:03:23.860] hand from the race start. And that's the unfortunate thing about one stop. And they find out, you
[01:03:23.860 -> 01:03:25.600] know, it is going to be a one stop and
[01:03:25.600 -> 01:03:30.900] that's a one stop. Yeah, not too exciting and found out. Yeah, exactly. But like people
[01:03:30.900 -> 01:03:35.020] are people like I saw a lot of Merc fans calling for the heads of the strategists and it's
[01:03:35.020 -> 01:03:40.480] like cool. I don't think they were going to beat Red Bull on the same strategy. So maybe
[01:03:40.480 -> 01:03:44.440] maybe Red Bull got their tire figures wrong and they couldn't do the one stop. I didn't
[01:03:44.440 -> 01:03:48.540] even know if they planned the one stop, but it was one of those fuck around
[01:03:48.540 -> 01:03:52.880] and find out if you can get to lap 25 or so, you might be in the window.
[01:03:52.880 -> 01:03:57.040] Yeah, so there we go.
[01:03:57.040 -> 01:03:59.240] Really super exciting strategy battle.
[01:03:59.240 -> 01:04:02.520] Didn't really turn out too much, did it really?
[01:04:02.520 -> 01:04:07.660] Yeah, no, No, exactly Ferrari. Like you say they were in the world of their own
[01:04:08.320 -> 01:04:14.320] Christ, well, that was that was painful for them this weekend to foesee. I know you're out there and you listen
[01:04:15.040 -> 01:04:17.040] Sending you thoughts and prayers
[01:04:17.200 -> 01:04:23.200] They were ripping into you know, team Carlos was ripping into team team is there back and forth?
[01:04:23.200 -> 01:04:26.560] It was a descendant into civil war yeah exactly it's like
[01:04:26.560 -> 01:04:33.920] there's nobody else to be mad at let's be mad at each other fuck them yeah yeah um that result for
[01:04:33.920 -> 01:04:45.320] ferrari and mercedes now brings mercedes to within 40 points of p2 in the Constructors Championship. Oh, two races to go. Crikey.
[01:04:45.360 -> 01:04:46.600] Two races to go.
[01:04:47.080 -> 01:04:48.200] 40 point gap.
[01:04:48.400 -> 01:04:49.800] Brazil and Abu Dhabi.
[01:04:51.160 -> 01:04:55.280] Do you see the possibility that Merck might jump Ferrari for P2?
[01:04:56.960 -> 01:04:59.480] Um, anything's possible.
[01:04:59.480 -> 01:05:02.840] I mean, Benalto said there's no reason they can't win the last 10 races
[01:05:02.840 -> 01:05:04.080] of the season a while back.
[01:05:04.480 -> 01:05:08.480] Um, that was wishful thinking and somebody, that was a paid acting job. I don't think,
[01:05:09.360 -> 01:05:14.240] they didn't get their money's worth out of that. No. But I think it's possible. I think it's
[01:05:14.240 -> 01:05:18.160] unlikely, but I think it's very possible. To make the rest of this season exciting for me,
[01:05:19.040 -> 01:05:23.680] I'm going to say yes. Okay, I'd like to see it. Honestly, I'd like to see it.
[01:05:23.680 -> 01:05:28.100] I need Mercedes to jump Ferrari to P2 without winning a race.
[01:05:28.100 -> 01:05:30.400] Oh, yeah, because then I'll lose the beard.
[01:05:30.400 -> 01:05:33.300] So that's my excitement for the next two races.
[01:05:34.600 -> 01:05:36.600] Okay, put some put some skin in the game.
[01:05:36.600 -> 01:05:37.200] Yeah, I like that.
[01:05:38.300 -> 01:05:41.400] But yeah, I think to close the loop on the Mercedes thing,
[01:05:41.400 -> 01:05:44.100] though, I think if they match the strategy with Red Bull,
[01:05:44.100 -> 01:05:47.060] they would have not unless they got an overtake on track. They wouldn't have been
[01:05:47.060 -> 01:05:51.900] able to overtake them. I just don't see it from the numbers and the single lap performance
[01:05:51.900 -> 01:05:57.680] and what we saw the long on performance. But yeah, Ferrari no man's land. Let's get into
[01:05:57.680 -> 01:06:01.480] the some of the midfield shit house or it because there was a lot of it. Oh, Bennett.
[01:06:01.480 -> 01:06:05.000] Yeah, right. What what do you think of this one? Gasly dive bomb.
[01:06:05.000 -> 01:06:07.120] Well, he wasn't really a dive bomb.
[01:06:07.120 -> 01:06:09.280] He did lock up and he lost control.
[01:06:09.280 -> 01:06:14.400] He went so wide that he forced stroll off and Gasly himself could not stay on the track.
[01:06:14.400 -> 01:06:18.640] So if you were if you were that team and you know that you've pushed a car off track and
[01:06:18.640 -> 01:06:23.500] you've gone off track yourself as a result of a misjudgment of the breaking zone or lock
[01:06:23.500 -> 01:06:25.320] up, these things happen.
[01:06:25.320 -> 01:06:31.160] Do you hold on to the position and wait for the penalty because it's fucking coming?
[01:06:31.160 -> 01:06:35.600] Or do you just hold the position and uh, yeah, or do you get back?
[01:06:35.600 -> 01:06:36.600] Yeah.
[01:06:36.600 -> 01:06:38.680] So why did they not give that back?
[01:06:38.680 -> 01:06:39.680] What the fuck was that?
[01:06:39.680 -> 01:06:41.240] Glad you asked that.
[01:06:41.240 -> 01:06:44.360] Now, I do have to go back and double check this.
[01:06:44.360 -> 01:06:46.200] So people out there may already know and they can shout down the radio that I'm glad you asked that. Now, I do have to go back and double check this. So people out there may already know
[01:06:46.200 -> 01:06:49.600] and they can shout down the radio that I'm wrong.
[01:06:49.600 -> 01:06:53.880] But I think there was a car just behind Stroll
[01:06:53.880 -> 01:06:56.240] that was also racing them for position.
[01:06:56.240 -> 01:06:58.200] So if Gasly let Stroll pass,
[01:06:58.200 -> 01:06:59.560] there was a big chance that that car
[01:06:59.560 -> 01:07:01.440] was also gonna jump him.
[01:07:01.440 -> 01:07:02.840] Ooh, I could be wrong.
[01:07:02.840 -> 01:07:07.560] It could have been a blue flag car, blue flag car. But I thought there was a car behind
[01:07:07.560 -> 01:07:11.880] him that got right up to them. That was possibly going to jump
[01:07:11.880 -> 01:07:14.040] him. If he gave that back.
[01:07:15.360 -> 01:07:16.640] I can't see it immediately.
[01:07:16.640 -> 01:07:20.400] I could be wrong. Could be wrong. Okay. But if that's the
[01:07:20.400 -> 01:07:27.360] case, then I can't. Sorry, if that's the case, and I completely understand why he didn't give it back.
[01:07:27.360 -> 01:07:33.640] I'd just take the fucking penalty later on, rather than risk dropping two places.
[01:07:33.640 -> 01:07:37.280] It might have been Albon apparently, but I don't know.
[01:07:37.280 -> 01:07:38.480] I don't remember that at all.
[01:07:38.480 -> 01:07:39.480] But anyway.
[01:07:39.480 -> 01:07:40.480] Yeah.
[01:07:40.480 -> 01:07:45.760] In terms of the maneuver where he pushed him off, I decided to add to the toxicity of
[01:07:45.760 -> 01:07:49.600] Twitter and I said oh look Gasly's taken the playbook of Max Verstappen there.
[01:07:49.600 -> 01:07:55.600] That was fucking cl... you're so biased Dan. I know. How dare you? How dare you?
[01:07:55.600 -> 01:08:01.200] And it banged. But he got a five-second penalty for that and I think that's fair.
[01:08:01.200 -> 01:08:13.120] Like he didn't cause any damage, he didn't DNF anyone. For example, Russell on his latest attack in Austin got 10 seconds for signs, wasn't it? Or is
[01:08:13.120 -> 01:08:14.120] that not the case?
[01:08:14.120 -> 01:08:18.320] Uh, no. Russell got five seconds, didn't he?
[01:08:18.320 -> 01:08:19.320] Ah, okay.
[01:08:19.320 -> 01:08:22.920] Russell got five seconds for taking Carlos out in the US Grand Prix.
[01:08:22.920 -> 01:08:23.920] Yeah.
[01:08:23.920 -> 01:08:24.920] Sorry, is this what you're talking about?
[01:08:24.920 -> 01:08:25.920] Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, and then Danny Rick got 10 seconds taking Carlos out in the US Grand Prix. Yeah. Sorry, is this what you're talking about? Yeah, yeah, exactly.
[01:08:25.920 -> 01:08:29.600] Yeah, and then Danny Rick got 10 seconds for trying to send-
[01:08:29.600 -> 01:08:32.560] Ah, okay, we'll come to that one in a second.
[01:08:32.560 -> 01:08:33.560] Yeah.
[01:08:33.560 -> 01:08:34.560] Okay.
[01:08:34.560 -> 01:08:38.520] So, sorry, in regards to Gasly, I think it's all fair.
[01:08:38.520 -> 01:08:42.320] I think Gasly would probably be the first to say that he lost control at that point.
[01:08:42.320 -> 01:08:45.960] What do you think George Russell would have said?
[01:08:45.960 -> 01:08:50.440] Oh, he would have been like, hang on, hang on, I haven't set up my soundboard.
[01:08:50.440 -> 01:08:51.440] Give it a sec.
[01:08:51.440 -> 01:08:57.440] He just said, Cor, blimey, gov, no, he was all up in my chuff.
[01:08:57.440 -> 01:09:00.800] There you go.
[01:09:00.800 -> 01:09:04.200] He turned into me, yeah, because you were going straight all the way to the outside
[01:09:04.200 -> 01:09:05.000] of turn five, mate. Cor, he was writing my postcode. me, yeah, because you were going straight all the way to the outside of turn 5, mate.
[01:09:05.000 -> 01:09:07.000] Oh, he was writing my postcode.
[01:09:08.000 -> 01:09:09.000] So, yeah.
[01:09:11.000 -> 01:09:12.000] Oh, I love that.
[01:09:12.000 -> 01:09:14.000] So, I think that was fair.
[01:09:14.000 -> 01:09:17.000] But Gazzee needs to be careful now, though, doesn't he? Because...
[01:09:17.000 -> 01:09:21.000] Two penalty points until a race ban, I believe.
[01:09:21.000 -> 01:09:25.880] Yeah, I think Gazzee is just tired of the season just wants that race band
[01:09:28.800 -> 01:09:29.040] So yeah, it'd be a good way to sit out and it's a good way to get you know
[01:09:31.680 -> 01:09:32.200] Call young Liam up get Liam some sleep time
[01:09:39.040 -> 01:09:39.560] Yeah, I think as he needs to go do some wild shit in Brazil so that he can take an early offseason
[01:09:44.600 -> 01:09:45.000] Yeah, but to be fair that that goes all the way into the start of next season, I believe.
[01:09:45.000 -> 01:09:49.920] Someone in the chat is telling me that his first penalty points will be gone in May 2023,
[01:09:49.920 -> 01:09:54.520] so he even has to be careful at the start of next year.
[01:09:54.520 -> 01:09:57.520] Let's talk on some next stuff, because we've had a...
[01:09:57.520 -> 01:10:01.680] I was happy during this race at one point when I saw Danny Rick.
[01:10:01.680 -> 01:10:03.680] We're getting some peak honey badger back a little bit.
[01:10:03.680 -> 01:10:05.320] That was a good drive from him, honestly.
[01:10:05.320 -> 01:10:06.400] Very good drive.
[01:10:06.400 -> 01:10:10.240] It was, so I, this isn't a dig at Danny Rick.
[01:10:10.240 -> 01:10:11.240] I'll just put that at the front.
[01:10:11.240 -> 01:10:12.280] Better not, better not.
[01:10:12.280 -> 01:10:15.040] I'll tag, I'll add all of his ex-girlfriends on Twitter.
[01:10:17.200 -> 01:10:18.040] Oh, okay.
[01:10:18.040 -> 01:10:18.860] I won't do that.
[01:10:20.880 -> 01:10:22.680] You always do this, you throw me right off.
[01:10:22.680 -> 01:10:24.280] What was I saying?
[01:10:24.280 -> 01:10:26.540] Yeah, this was a real Jekyll and Hyde performance
[01:10:26.540 -> 01:10:27.600] from him, right?
[01:10:27.600 -> 01:10:32.600] Because he absolutely bashed into Yuki, right?
[01:10:33.100 -> 01:10:35.180] And people say, oh, well, Yuki shut the door on him,
[01:10:35.180 -> 01:10:36.900] whatever, fine.
[01:10:36.900 -> 01:10:38.860] But he gets a penalty from that,
[01:10:38.860 -> 01:10:40.140] and then he just sort of realizes,
[01:10:40.140 -> 01:10:41.820] oh, fuck, I'm Danny Rick.
[01:10:41.820 -> 01:10:43.620] Put some softs on and just goes mental
[01:10:43.620 -> 01:10:44.900] and wins driver of the day.
[01:10:44.900 -> 01:10:46.320] I was just like, what is going on?
[01:10:46.960 -> 01:10:51.280] So yeah, mate, you need to make up 10 seconds because you've just sent Sunoda into the shadow
[01:10:51.280 -> 01:10:57.120] realm. Oh my God. Punched a hole in the side of that car, knocked him off. And then he goes for
[01:10:57.120 -> 01:11:01.520] it. And there's a video floating around of him giving the finger guns when he overtakes. I still
[01:11:01.520 -> 01:11:07.360] haven't freaking seen it, man. But he goes on to manage clearing Ocon by 10 seconds.
[01:11:07.360 -> 01:11:10.600] So he holds on to P7, I believe.
[01:11:10.600 -> 01:11:14.600] Yeah, so he finished P7, got a 10 second penalty,
[01:11:14.600 -> 01:11:15.640] remained P7.
[01:11:15.640 -> 01:11:17.480] So good job, Danny Rick.
[01:11:17.480 -> 01:11:21.060] That's one of your brighter performances recently.
[01:11:21.060 -> 01:11:21.900] Bless him.
[01:11:21.900 -> 01:11:23.160] Go on lad.
[01:11:23.160 -> 01:11:24.280] But was this, again,
[01:11:24.280 -> 01:11:27.340] so this strong performance one from him,
[01:11:27.340 -> 01:11:29.320] right, and I'm gonna get the old tin foil out everyone,
[01:11:29.320 -> 01:11:30.460] get ready.
[01:11:30.460 -> 01:11:32.100] Go on.
[01:11:32.100 -> 01:11:34.260] Did he get a strong performance out of this
[01:11:34.260 -> 01:11:36.060] because he overrode the strategy and said,
[01:11:36.060 -> 01:11:37.680] no, I'm doing medium soft?
[01:11:38.980 -> 01:11:42.620] Because in the past, and I can't verify this,
[01:11:42.620 -> 01:11:44.980] I've been told this by Daniel Ricardo Stans,
[01:11:44.980 -> 01:11:45.260] so who
[01:11:45.260 -> 01:11:50.140] knows how accurate this is but a lot of the time apparently Danny Rick will ask
[01:11:50.140 -> 01:11:57.380] for a different strategy and get denied. Yeah maybe maybe he did he feel in
[01:11:57.380 -> 01:12:04.660] control again? Channeling his inner Carlos Sainz or George Russell?
[01:12:04.660 -> 01:12:08.560] He definitely channeled some George Russell energy in that one.
[01:12:08.560 -> 01:12:09.560] Jesus.
[01:12:09.560 -> 01:12:10.920] Yeah, maybe he just said, well, I'm out at the end of the season.
[01:12:10.920 -> 01:12:14.000] I'm just not going to fucking come in and I'm just gonna do my own strategy.
[01:12:14.000 -> 01:12:16.000] But yeah, yeah, fine.
[01:12:16.000 -> 01:12:17.520] Yeah, fine.
[01:12:17.520 -> 01:12:18.520] So whatever.
[01:12:18.520 -> 01:12:19.520] Fine.
[01:12:19.520 -> 01:12:20.520] It worked for him.
[01:12:20.520 -> 01:12:21.520] Yeah.
[01:12:21.520 -> 01:12:31.040] What else you got? So around lap 52, Alonzo starts giving it all the beans and you could tell he's leaving.
[01:12:31.440 -> 01:12:36.440] He's leaving that team at the end of the season, but he's not happy because his engine is bleeding performance.
[01:12:36.440 -> 01:12:42.240] He goes from being on pace with the Ferraris to getting devoured by the rest of the midfield.
[01:12:42.260 -> 01:12:45.680] I mean, he's, he's, he's over 25 seconds behind the Ferraris,
[01:12:45.680 -> 01:12:46.680] but he's matching him in pace.
[01:12:46.680 -> 01:12:48.520] He's not doing too badly, honestly.
[01:12:49.640 -> 01:12:52.760] And his engine starts dying and he's coming into believe
[01:12:52.760 -> 01:12:56.640] it's turn one and the thing grenades itself and he's so unhappy.
[01:12:56.640 -> 01:12:59.320] I reckon he was so pissed off that it was shitting itself
[01:12:59.320 -> 01:13:01.400] that he just pulled the clutch and revved it to shit.
[01:13:02.240 -> 01:13:08.600] Yes, I also like this theory that he's absolutely gone mental with it.
[01:13:10.140 -> 01:13:11.880] But I was thinking again,
[01:13:11.880 -> 01:13:13.960] me thinking is a dangerous combination.
[01:13:13.960 -> 01:13:14.960] I was thinking,
[01:13:16.880 -> 01:13:21.880] is Ferrari's strategic fuck up throughout the year
[01:13:22.080 -> 01:13:27.720] and ongoing issues covering up for the fact that Alpine have got an absolute
[01:13:27.720 -> 01:13:30.160] dog of a car in terms of reliability this year.
[01:13:30.160 -> 01:13:34.760] I mean, if we weren't talking about Ferrari, we'd be talking about Alpine for sure.
[01:13:34.760 -> 01:13:37.200] Yeah, that's my theory.
[01:13:37.200 -> 01:13:44.840] No, it's not fun, but the Alonso and Hamilton...
[01:13:44.840 -> 01:13:49.040] I'm sorry to say that all the way for all four Alpine fans out there.
[01:13:50.640 -> 01:13:51.520] No, but it's it.
[01:13:51.520 -> 01:13:52.720] I think everybody knows that and.
[01:13:53.760 -> 01:13:56.720] It's it's the Renault is not a particularly reliable engine.
[01:13:56.720 -> 01:13:57.040] It's not.
[01:13:57.680 -> 01:13:58.800] It's just a fucking fact.
[01:13:58.800 -> 01:13:59.920] It's not like that slander.
[01:14:00.800 -> 01:14:01.840] Never, never has been.
[01:14:02.560 -> 01:14:04.480] No, but at least it's fast now.
[01:14:04.480 -> 01:14:06.000] It's fast, but unreliable before It's fast, but unreliable.
[01:14:06.000 -> 01:14:08.000] Before it was shit, but unreliable.
[01:14:08.000 -> 01:14:10.000] Progress, woo!
[01:14:10.000 -> 01:14:12.000] Exactly, exactly.
[01:14:12.000 -> 01:14:14.000] But, um, yeah.
[01:14:14.000 -> 01:14:16.000] What about all the Alonzo,
[01:14:16.000 -> 01:14:18.000] I don't want to get into it too deep, but Alonzo and
[01:14:18.000 -> 01:14:20.000] Hamilton giving each other shit all week
[01:14:20.000 -> 01:14:22.000] and that's getting super petty.
[01:14:22.000 -> 01:14:24.000] But...
[01:14:24.000 -> 01:14:27.600] The social media war. I just enjoyed it I thought
[01:14:27.600 -> 01:14:37.520] it was quite funny. I think Alonso enjoys taking little digs at Hamilton and this time he got a
[01:14:37.520 -> 01:14:42.160] response in terms of a thumbs up which I thought was brilliant from Lewis. Yeah, fucking get in
[01:14:42.160 -> 01:14:46.080] there Lewis. Yeah, he clapped back. I just think it's funny between them.
[01:14:46.880 -> 01:14:55.360] Yeah. Um, yeah. Alonzo seems very petty, doesn't he? He's, he has got a chip on his shoulder.
[01:14:55.360 -> 01:15:02.480] He doesn't need to be because Alonzo is a good driver. Yeah. Even now, when he's older, or more
[01:15:02.480 -> 01:15:08.000] elderly, shall we say, Alonzo is a far better driver now than, let's say,
[01:15:08.000 -> 01:15:11.000] I don't know, Kimi Räikkönen was in his last two years.
[01:15:11.000 -> 01:15:14.000] Kimi retired two years too late, in my opinion.
[01:15:14.000 -> 01:15:19.000] Whereas Alonso, I've not seen anything from him that would say,
[01:15:19.000 -> 01:15:21.000] actually, Alonso, you've been here too long.
[01:15:21.000 -> 01:15:25.740] No, but he is getting beat by Arkon this season. Because Alonso's you've been here too long. No. Uh, but he is getting beat by Archon this season.
[01:15:25.740 -> 01:15:27.540] Because Alonso's car keeps exploding.
[01:15:27.540 -> 01:15:32.420] Don't, I don't make up, don't bring in the facts to this discussion, my feelings can't
[01:15:32.420 -> 01:15:33.420] take it.
[01:15:33.420 -> 01:15:37.980] Listen, I'm not, I'm not saying this is conspiracy theory or whatever, it's just facts.
[01:15:37.980 -> 01:15:42.260] Alonso's car has been far more unreliable than Archon's.
[01:15:42.260 -> 01:15:43.940] So I'm not gonna argue with that.
[01:15:43.940 -> 01:15:45.920] I just wanted to say that to stir the pot.
[01:15:45.920 -> 01:15:51.320] Yeah, well, you're a wanker, so.
[01:15:51.320 -> 01:15:54.120] What else we got in the race?
[01:15:54.120 -> 01:15:55.520] Latifi two laps behind.
[01:15:55.520 -> 01:15:57.480] I don't want to say anything else about that.
[01:15:57.480 -> 01:16:01.960] Aston and Haas looked completely nowhere this weekend.
[01:16:01.960 -> 01:16:02.960] Just like fucking nowhere.
[01:16:02.960 -> 01:16:07.840] And I don't even want to go on about it because I feel bad for them, honestly. But they're so inconsistent in terms
[01:16:07.840 -> 01:16:12.760] of performance, and it sucks to see it because I would like to see more teams establishing
[01:16:12.760 -> 01:16:17.440] the pecking order and chasing each other instead of being flip flop every freaking week. I
[01:16:17.440 -> 01:16:23.360] even put a graphic on Twitter of their qualifying performances all season. And it's just like,
[01:16:23.360 -> 01:16:29.600] what what's going on? There's some fundamental issues that they have not come to grips with that car or the operation of that car.
[01:16:29.600 -> 01:16:32.560] Yeah, rough.
[01:16:32.560 -> 01:16:38.960] Then Russell Bottas converts a P6 in qualifying to a P10 result.
[01:16:38.960 -> 01:16:42.960] Strong single lap pace but just really couldn't hang on to that.
[01:16:42.960 -> 01:16:44.960] No, he couldn't, no.
[01:16:44.960 -> 01:16:45.720] No.
[01:16:50.320 -> 01:16:53.880] No, I'm sorry, it looks like he went super long on his first stint and then just got it just didn't work out.
[01:16:55.880 -> 01:16:57.600] I don't know what else I would have done differently, because
[01:16:57.600 -> 01:16:59.400] if he'd gone short on that, he would have been stuck in a
[01:16:59.400 -> 01:17:02.440] gaggle of cars going the same length as he had before.
[01:17:02.440 -> 01:17:07.600] So a bit unlucky, but not enough pace to break out of that vicious cycle of getting
[01:17:07.800 -> 01:17:10.120] stuck in the death traps there.
[01:17:10.320 -> 01:17:14.360] No, and we've got I think I forgot to say about this earlier,
[01:17:14.560 -> 01:17:15.760] but.
[01:17:15.960 -> 01:17:19.520] Bottas outqualifying Charles Leclerc.
[01:17:19.720 -> 01:17:21.280] Oh, he split the Ferraris, didn't he?
[01:17:21.480 -> 01:17:22.600] Yeah, yeah.
[01:17:22.800 -> 01:17:23.960] Bang.
[01:17:24.160 -> 01:17:25.000] Bottas is back, Mr. Saturday, the original, didn't he? Yeah, yeah. Boom! Bang.
[01:17:25.000 -> 01:17:26.680] Hotass is back, Mr. Saturday.
[01:17:26.680 -> 01:17:27.680] The original.
[01:17:27.680 -> 01:17:28.680] Go on, lad.
[01:17:28.680 -> 01:17:29.680] Go on.
[01:17:29.680 -> 01:17:32.120] Yeah, that was pretty good.
[01:17:32.120 -> 01:17:36.440] Russell pops in the blimey fastest purple monster at the end.
[01:17:36.440 -> 01:17:37.440] Yep, he does.
[01:17:37.440 -> 01:17:38.440] Yep.
[01:17:38.440 -> 01:17:39.440] After...
[01:17:39.440 -> 01:17:42.480] He'd been asking to go onto softs for ages and they're like, alright, now at the end,
[01:17:42.480 -> 01:17:43.480] lad, go on.
[01:17:43.480 -> 01:17:49.600] Yeah, he's like, oh, these times I've got got a puncture honest governor. He was milking that he's like please have a puncture
[01:17:49.600 -> 01:17:54.080] please have a puncture I just drove through the this fucker deliberately drove through the debris
[01:17:54.080 -> 01:17:58.480] that he found on the track just to get off of those shithards. Yeah and and then eventually
[01:17:58.480 -> 01:18:04.960] he got his wish um to pop on some softs for the fastest lap at the end. Such was the gap between
[01:18:03.440 -> 01:18:07.680] to pop on some softs for the fastest lap at the end. Such was the gap between him and Sainz I believe
[01:18:07.680 -> 01:18:10.480] that he could do that with no punishment.
[01:18:10.480 -> 01:18:14.240] Yeah, I mean but if he had a shit stop he would have been eaten up by Sainz.
[01:18:14.240 -> 01:18:18.320] Well speaking of shit stops, we did have a shit stop this week didn't we?
[01:18:18.320 -> 01:18:23.200] Checo, poor old Checo Perez. Oh yeah. Was it front left? I can't remember
[01:18:23.200 -> 01:18:25.520] front left or front right. Yeah.
[01:18:25.520 -> 01:18:29.880] That didn't really. I say a shit stop. I think it was five seconds, but that is shit when
[01:18:29.880 -> 01:18:35.040] you when it comes to Red Bull. I mean, at that rate, he would have still fallen behind
[01:18:35.040 -> 01:18:42.400] Leclerc. But you know, that's if he had had a better stop, he would have actually ended
[01:18:42.400 -> 01:18:45.160] up ahead of Hamilton and Hamilton stopped. Hmm.
[01:18:45.160 -> 01:18:47.160] That's that's how that went.
[01:18:47.160 -> 01:18:48.160] Basically.
[01:18:48.160 -> 01:18:54.080] McLaren set a record for the season 1.9 second stop on the 18 inch bad boys.
[01:18:54.080 -> 01:18:55.080] Yes, they did.
[01:18:55.080 -> 01:18:56.080] 1.98 I'll have you know.
[01:18:56.080 -> 01:18:57.080] Go on lads.
[01:18:57.080 -> 01:18:58.080] Passes of the season.
[01:18:58.080 -> 01:19:04.400] I think Jonathan Wheatley is like, we got to take that boys.
[01:19:04.400 -> 01:19:06.640] Yeah, yeah. He will
[01:19:06.640 -> 01:19:11.360] not be happy about that. Red Bull have been spectacular pit stops, but it's cool seeing
[01:19:11.360 -> 01:19:18.920] McLaren smash in some competition. Getting right up there. Go on lad. Let's wrap it up.
[01:19:18.920 -> 01:19:24.760] So the like, I don't really care about the results of this race. It was interesting ish.
[01:19:24.760 -> 01:19:26.920] It was just like one of the I just got blue ball the whole race.
[01:19:26.920 -> 01:19:28.160] I'm like, is it a one stop or not?
[01:19:28.160 -> 01:19:33.280] And then as soon as clear as a one stop, I'm just like, great, I'm glad it's over.
[01:19:33.280 -> 01:19:37.040] I fed some of the delusion on Twitter as well by saying that this is definitely going to
[01:19:37.040 -> 01:19:40.520] be red board definitely going to have to pit again.
[01:19:40.520 -> 01:19:42.720] Yeah, and then they didn't.
[01:19:42.720 -> 01:19:46.100] So yet again, I look like a fucking idiot on social media.
[01:19:46.600 -> 01:19:48.800] It's fine, but I haven't told you the fact that I am.
[01:19:48.800 -> 01:19:51.300] So if you believe me, that's your own fucking fault.
[01:19:51.300 -> 01:19:56.500] Yeah, you dumbasses shitbags, but I'm Max just happened sets
[01:19:56.500 -> 01:19:57.300] a couple records.
[01:19:58.200 -> 01:19:59.100] What does he set?
[01:19:59.100 -> 01:20:02.100] What records does he smash out the park Blake?
[01:20:02.200 -> 01:20:04.700] So seven Michaels 13 wins in a season.
[01:20:04.700 -> 01:20:07.480] He surpassed it on to 14 and he has Michaels, 13 wins in a season, he surpassed it on to 14
[01:20:07.480 -> 01:20:11.620] and he has scored the most points in a season. But I do believe he will be the first to say
[01:20:11.620 -> 01:20:18.300] that it's not as difficult as it used to be because there's a lot more races. It's not.
[01:20:18.300 -> 01:20:22.960] But like, you know, if you cut out the first part of the season, you know, the first couple
[01:20:22.960 -> 01:20:26.680] of races and say, right, there's a season starting at race four or five.
[01:20:27.800 -> 01:20:28.760] It's pretty impressive still.
[01:20:28.760 -> 01:20:30.440] It's not unimpressive at all.
[01:20:30.440 -> 01:20:34.900] No, if you look at his 14 wins up till now,
[01:20:34.900 -> 01:20:36.240] and you work out the percentage,
[01:20:36.240 -> 01:20:39.960] I think it equals, or is very, very close
[01:20:39.960 -> 01:20:42.720] in terms of percentages to Michael's 13
[01:20:42.720 -> 01:20:44.440] in the season that he did it in.
[01:20:44.440 -> 01:20:48.000] So if you look at it that way, I think they're very close.
[01:20:48.000 -> 01:20:49.640] Yeah, I think he's gonna do it.
[01:20:49.640 -> 01:20:52.000] He's gonna get another win this season, has to.
[01:20:52.000 -> 01:20:52.840] Yeah.
[01:20:52.840 -> 01:20:54.320] There's two chances and both those tracks
[01:20:54.320 -> 01:20:55.280] will go well for the Red Bulls.
[01:20:55.280 -> 01:20:57.320] Like, none of the tracks go badly
[01:20:57.320 -> 01:20:59.200] for the Red Bulls right now.
[01:20:59.200 -> 01:21:00.480] No, that's true.
[01:21:01.520 -> 01:21:02.480] Very true.
[01:21:02.480 -> 01:21:05.960] Well, I think that was the race really, wasn't it really?
[01:21:05.960 -> 01:21:08.960] Everyone was shit apart from Red Bull and Mercedes.
[01:21:08.960 -> 01:21:09.800] Yeah.
[01:21:09.800 -> 01:21:12.200] And Mercedes were let down possibly by strategy.
[01:21:12.200 -> 01:21:17.200] So, GGs, that was the Mexico Grand Prix.
[01:21:17.200 -> 01:21:18.040] Yeah, gone.
[01:21:18.040 -> 01:21:20.280] If you fell asleep during it, I don't really blame you.
[01:21:20.280 -> 01:21:21.880] I think the only thing that kept me going
[01:21:21.880 -> 01:21:24.300] was the possible strategy.
[01:21:24.300 -> 01:21:26.960] Yeah, that was the only thing, but I will say this.
[01:21:26.960 -> 01:21:29.080] I'm going to do a little plug here.
[01:21:29.080 -> 01:21:31.560] Watching watching the stream with you.
[01:21:31.560 -> 01:21:36.000] You were there to you fucker watching the stream live on Twitch with everybody is actually
[01:21:36.000 -> 01:21:37.920] a lot of fun hanging out and talking to me.
[01:21:37.920 -> 01:21:41.560] I have a I get a lot of enjoyment of talking about the race and what's going on with you
[01:21:41.560 -> 01:21:45.040] guys and looking at the the timing, having the conversations,
[01:21:45.040 -> 01:21:49.920] you know, trying to listen to a couple different drivers, radio messages, and try to take some
[01:21:49.920 -> 01:21:53.520] context and put like frame what's happening in the race because some of the messages are a little
[01:21:53.520 -> 01:21:58.320] bit cryptic sometimes. But that's super fun. So if you're into that every Saturday and Sunday,
[01:21:58.320 -> 01:22:03.520] before qualifying and before the race, twitch.tv. French slash break with three hours and we have a
[01:22:03.520 -> 01:22:10.400] blast everybody in the chat saying they had a great time. Everything is more fun with friends. Oh yeah.
[01:22:10.400 -> 01:22:19.440] Especially camping at Le Mans. Yeah with Dr Marco. Oh I love it. Right is it that time?
[01:22:19.440 -> 01:22:34.820] Hit it. Thank you, Michael. Kiss that is so fucking beautiful. So Dan, this is the part of the
[01:22:34.820 -> 01:22:42.160] show where you and I both nominate somebody for Fraud Watch. And uh, that's uh, yeah,
[01:22:42.160 -> 01:22:46.000] we would take a bad thing. thing. Bad thing from the week.
[01:22:46.000 -> 01:22:48.000] And if you're in the stream, I want to see your nominations
[01:22:48.000 -> 01:22:50.000] for Fraud Watch as well.
[01:22:50.000 -> 01:22:52.000] And if you're on YouTube watching this, I want to see
[01:22:52.000 -> 01:22:54.000] your nominations. And if you're listening to this on
[01:22:54.000 -> 01:22:56.000] a podcast
[01:22:56.000 -> 01:22:58.000] platform like Spotify or Apple Music,
[01:22:58.000 -> 01:23:00.000] go ahead and leave us a review and
[01:23:00.000 -> 01:23:02.000] hit that five star right now.
[01:23:02.000 -> 01:23:04.000] Yeah, and if you're listening to this on the car,
[01:23:04.000 -> 01:23:07.380] on the way to work, just wind your window down and just shout it out to someone as
[01:23:07.380 -> 01:23:12.140] you drive past. Yeah right now. Yeah they all know, they all listen, they'll
[01:23:12.140 -> 01:23:16.100] understand, they'll be like oh that's his nomination for Ford Watch. I will say
[01:23:16.100 -> 01:23:19.320] this when I was in Austin I got to talk to a bunch of homies and the number of
[01:23:19.320 -> 01:23:24.480] people that I've known or I don't know and they know of the podcast in the
[01:23:24.480 -> 01:23:25.360] paddock who came up to me,
[01:23:25.360 -> 01:23:28.020] it's like, dude, I love your podcast with Dan.
[01:23:28.020 -> 01:23:29.360] I was like, it's nice to meet you.
[01:23:29.360 -> 01:23:30.200] Hey, I'm Blake, nice to meet you.
[01:23:30.200 -> 01:23:31.560] I was like, I was fucking blown away.
[01:23:31.560 -> 01:23:32.920] There was, it wasn't like hundreds,
[01:23:32.920 -> 01:23:35.840] but it was, there was probably five to 10 people
[01:23:35.840 -> 01:23:38.140] over the weekend that were like, love your podcast, dude.
[01:23:38.140 -> 01:23:38.980] People that I know.
[01:23:38.980 -> 01:23:39.820] That I didn't know.
[01:23:39.820 -> 01:23:41.240] There are literally dozens of us.
[01:23:41.240 -> 01:23:43.320] Yeah, there are literally 10 to 12 people
[01:23:43.320 -> 01:23:45.000] that listen to this podcast.
[01:23:45.000 -> 01:23:47.000] Wow, it's opening doors.
[01:23:47.000 -> 01:23:50.000] Listen, next year we'll be on the grid.
[01:23:50.000 -> 01:23:52.000] Lamar, Frodcast.
[01:23:52.000 -> 01:23:54.000] So, who's on Frodwatch for you this week?
[01:23:54.000 -> 01:23:55.000] So, Frodwatch, right.
[01:23:55.000 -> 01:24:01.000] So, technically, right, my first Frodwatch is like my unofficial Frodwatch,
[01:24:01.000 -> 01:24:09.680] and that's me for forgetting to do this for the last two weeks running. But I was ill and I was high on cold and flu medication.
[01:24:09.680 -> 01:24:12.280] And we did have some very, very excellent guests as well.
[01:24:12.280 -> 01:24:16.680] So that's that's my excuse I'm sticking to it.
[01:24:16.680 -> 01:24:22.360] My actual Fraud Watch is Christian Horner for putting on spectacled glasses during his
[01:24:22.360 -> 01:24:23.360] Cost Cap conference.
[01:24:23.360 -> 01:24:25.720] Oh, he needed that IQ boost.
[01:24:25.720 -> 01:24:28.800] Right, listen, I have worked at Red Bull for six years.
[01:24:28.800 -> 01:24:31.840] I've never seen him wear glasses once.
[01:24:31.840 -> 01:24:32.840] Not once.
[01:24:32.840 -> 01:24:34.040] Are you being ageist, bro?
[01:24:34.040 -> 01:24:35.760] No, I've just never seen him wear glasses.
[01:24:35.760 -> 01:24:36.760] Me neither.
[01:24:36.760 -> 01:24:38.240] I don't think this is a real thing.
[01:24:38.240 -> 01:24:45.840] I think this is a, this is fake spectacles to make him seem smart and trustable.
[01:24:45.840 -> 01:24:52.160] We've talked to our study groups and they say that spectacles are plus two points in likeability and um...
[01:24:53.280 -> 01:24:54.720] I'm not gonna say it, never mind.
[01:24:54.720 -> 01:24:55.760] Yeah, so...
[01:24:55.760 -> 01:24:56.260] Anyway.
[01:24:56.260 -> 01:25:00.800] The 1000 IQ glasses that I've never ever seen in wear before.
[01:25:00.800 -> 01:25:02.800] Fraud watch, Christian, I'm on to you.
[01:25:02.800 -> 01:25:05.280] Go on, lad! Go on lad, go on lad. Fair enough.
[01:25:07.520 -> 01:25:11.920] So my fraud of the week, my fraud watch has something to do with Ted Kravitz.
[01:25:13.040 -> 01:25:14.960] You know, he's been making some weird...
[01:25:14.960 -> 01:25:16.560] Oh, this could go either way.
[01:25:16.560 -> 01:25:21.440] He's been making some weird accusations and towing some interesting lines, but
[01:25:23.440 -> 01:25:24.800] you're allowed to have an opinion.
[01:25:26.560 -> 01:25:30.640] interesting lines, but you're allowed to have an opinion. And anybody sending Ted Kravitz shit messages on social media because you don't agree with
[01:25:30.640 -> 01:25:33.120] him, you're a fucking dork.
[01:25:33.120 -> 01:25:34.120] Get a life.
[01:25:34.120 -> 01:25:38.600] Seriously, anybody that's harassing people on Twitter or social media because they don't
[01:25:38.600 -> 01:25:40.960] like your take on something.
[01:25:40.960 -> 01:25:41.960] Fuck yourself, man.
[01:25:41.960 -> 01:25:42.960] Seriously.
[01:25:42.960 -> 01:25:43.960] Touch grass.
[01:25:43.960 -> 01:25:47.800] But, um, Ted, you're crazy. I don't agree with
[01:25:47.800 -> 01:25:50.960] you all the time, but nobody deserves that, no matter what, so.
[01:25:50.960 -> 01:25:54.240] If everybody agreed with each other it would be boring.
[01:25:54.240 -> 01:25:57.560] Yeah, but you don't have to be a cunt either.
[01:25:57.560 -> 01:25:59.960] No, so that's us out.
[01:25:59.960 -> 01:26:06.640] Yeah. Ah shit, I am a cunt. Anyway, um, we don't have what we don't have an engine mode good boy sound
[01:26:06.640 -> 01:26:11.360] yet. I think Michael's working on but Michael got us this this week. This was good. So I told the
[01:26:11.360 -> 01:26:19.840] story earlier. So Michael, who did you know, our intro, and he did all that. He was like, I was
[01:26:19.840 -> 01:26:25.560] looking at your data analysis thing on buy me a coffee and I got this phone call from my credit card and it goes
[01:26:25.560 -> 01:26:29.160] something like this. Fraud alert break F1 analysis suspicious
[01:26:29.160 -> 01:26:29.840] activity.
[01:26:31.840 -> 01:26:33.160] That's us baby.
[01:26:34.600 -> 01:26:38.080] So I mean that's that's pretty. That's actually hilarious and
[01:26:38.080 -> 01:26:41.720] entirely on brand, but this is the engine mode. Good boy where
[01:26:41.720 -> 01:26:47.280] we nominate somebody for doing a great job. Someone or something for doing a great job this weekend.
[01:26:47.280 -> 01:26:48.640] Yeah, go on lad.
[01:26:48.640 -> 01:26:50.720] Yeah, my engine mode good boy.
[01:26:51.600 -> 01:26:54.560] I'm going to give it to the McLaren pit stop crew for that first sub
[01:26:54.560 -> 01:26:58.000] two second pit stop of the year at one one point nine eight seconds.
[01:26:58.000 -> 01:26:59.760] Well done, lads. Well done.
[01:26:59.760 -> 01:27:01.560] Very good. Very excellent.
[01:27:01.560 -> 01:27:03.280] That's awesome. That's going to be a tough one to beat this season.
[01:27:03.280 -> 01:27:08.280] What's the second fastest? It's close to two.
[01:27:08.280 -> 01:27:09.280] You know what?
[01:27:09.280 -> 01:27:10.280] I don't even know.
[01:27:10.280 -> 01:27:11.280] We'll have to look at it.
[01:27:11.280 -> 01:27:12.280] We'll touch back on this next week.
[01:27:12.280 -> 01:27:18.160] So yeah, I've got no, I was going to say.
[01:27:18.160 -> 01:27:22.760] So I was going to give Russell my fraud watch, honestly, because he didn't terrorize anyone
[01:27:22.760 -> 01:27:23.960] this week.
[01:27:23.960 -> 01:27:28.820] But I've already done my fraud watch, and that's any people being assholes.
[01:27:28.820 -> 01:27:31.900] My injured mode good boy this week is Ricky Bobby.
[01:27:31.900 -> 01:27:33.220] I like seeing him smile man.
[01:27:33.220 -> 01:27:36.060] I miss I miss honey badger.
[01:27:36.060 -> 01:27:38.500] I hate to see that he's not in a car next season.
[01:27:38.500 -> 01:27:41.220] He's had a tough season.
[01:27:41.220 -> 01:27:47.000] But yeah, man, he's been in for a reserve role though, isn't he?
[01:27:47.000 -> 01:27:49.000] Yeah, but that's...
[01:27:49.000 -> 01:27:51.000] That's just not any fun.
[01:27:51.000 -> 01:27:53.000] That's basically sitting in...
[01:27:53.000 -> 01:27:56.000] You end up in a paddock and you end up doing some sim work.
[01:27:56.000 -> 01:27:58.000] Probably...
[01:27:58.000 -> 01:28:00.000] I'd fucking do it.
[01:28:00.000 -> 01:28:03.000] To be fair, Alex, when he took a year out and was doing sim work...
[01:28:03.000 -> 01:28:05.560] Um... He's just a fucking
[01:28:05.560 -> 01:28:06.560] good kid though.
[01:28:06.560 -> 01:28:08.160] I've got so much time for Albon.
[01:28:08.160 -> 01:28:11.840] I actually saw him in the hotel in Austin.
[01:28:11.840 -> 01:28:12.840] That was really nice.
[01:28:12.840 -> 01:28:13.840] And he was like, who's this blond dude?
[01:28:13.840 -> 01:28:16.140] Did he recognize who you were?
[01:28:16.140 -> 01:28:17.140] Of course he did.
[01:28:17.140 -> 01:28:18.140] I worked with him.
[01:28:18.140 -> 01:28:19.140] Just checking, just checking.
[01:28:19.140 -> 01:28:21.520] I worked with him like probably 30 weeks last year.
[01:28:21.520 -> 01:28:23.600] So he better remember me, the dork.
[01:28:23.600 -> 01:28:31.040] Yeah, he's a super nice dude and he's got good work ethic and a good mental game
[01:28:31.760 -> 01:28:34.800] for having a tough time. He kept his head on his shoulder. He's got a great drive.
[01:28:34.800 -> 01:28:36.080] Alex is top dude.
[01:28:36.080 -> 01:28:41.600] True that. True that. Someone else in the chat has given their nomination and I'm going to
[01:28:41.600 -> 01:28:50.000] shout it out because it is also a very good one and that's Papa Perez and Anthony Hamilton. Yo! Their little romance they had going on this weekend.
[01:28:50.000 -> 01:28:56.960] Anthony's like please don't kiss me again, please don't kiss me again. Yeah that was nice. Yeah I'm
[01:28:56.960 -> 01:29:02.480] a big fan. So um are we gonna we're gonna wrap this one up tidy like an hour and 27 episode not
[01:29:02.480 -> 01:29:09.160] bad hey? Yeah I think that I think that's on limit for us isn't it did we normally say one hour 30 yeah
[01:29:09.160 -> 01:29:12.840] it's limit I'm recording another pod after this and I'll put that on Twitter
[01:29:12.840 -> 01:29:17.080] so if anybody's not following break on Twitter or engine mode 11 on Twitter
[01:29:17.080 -> 01:29:20.560] that's a good way to keep in touch with us anytime anything exciting is
[01:29:20.560 -> 01:29:26.480] happening we'll put it there yeah and, and as part of the um, Red Bull agreed breach agreement
[01:29:26.480 -> 01:29:32.400] We have to cut down our podcast by 10% for 12 months anyway, so yeah, yeah and by doing that
[01:29:32.400 -> 01:29:37.920] I'm just gonna we'll reduce next week's stream by 10% so we'll be still like an hour 15. It's fine
[01:29:38.240 -> 01:29:40.800] you guys get all the fraudulent content that you want so, uh,
[01:29:41.920 -> 01:29:43.920] Can you guys do me a favor and uh?
[01:29:44.640 -> 01:29:45.760] Go fuck yourselves. I'm just
[01:29:45.760 -> 01:29:47.800] kidding. Have a great night. Fuck off.
[01:29:53.400 -> 01:29:55.400] Anyway, that's the episode.
[01:29:55.600 -> 01:29:56.100] Boom.
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