Ep43 - Las Vegas GP

We talk all about the Las Vegas GP, all the glitz, all the glamour, all the... drain covers?

• F1's no refunds policy
• Dan comes to terms with his Ocon Agenda
• Ferrari's design flaw is actually golden
• What happened with McLaren?
• Vegas wasn't actually that bad?

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**I. Introduction**

* Dan and Blake, the hosts of the Engine Breaking F1 podcast, begin the episode by discussing the Las Vegas Grand Prix.
* They acknowledge that the race weekend was full of glitz and glamour but also had its share of issues, including the infamous drain cover incident.

**II. F1's No Refunds Policy**

* Dan and Blake criticize Formula One's policy of not issuing refunds to fans who were unable to attend the Las Vegas Grand Prix due to the delayed start and shortened schedule.
* They point out that this policy is unfair to fans who paid a significant amount of money for tickets and travel arrangements.

**III. Dan Comes to Terms with His Ocon Agenda**

* Dan admits that he has been overly critical of Esteban Ocon in the past, but he is starting to come around on the French driver.
* He acknowledges that Ocon has been performing well in recent races and deserves more credit.

**IV. Ferrari's Design Flaw is Actually Golden**

* Dan and Blake discuss Ferrari's decision to use a low-downforce rear wing in Las Vegas, which resulted in Charles Leclerc qualifying in first place.
* They praise Ferrari's engineers for their innovative approach and for taking a risk that paid off.

**V. What Happened with McLaren?**

* Dan and Blake express their disappointment with McLaren's performance in Las Vegas, as the team struggled with tire preparation and finished outside the points.
* They speculate that McLaren may have made a mistake in bringing a Monza-spec bodywork to Vegas, which could have compromised their performance on the slower sections of the track.

**VI. Vegas Wasn't Actually That Bad?**

* Dan and Blake reflect on the Las Vegas Grand Prix weekend as a whole and conclude that it was not as bad as they initially thought.
* They acknowledge that the race itself was exciting and that the city of Las Vegas put on a great show.

**VII. Fraud Watch and Engine Mode Good Boy**

* Dan and Blake nominate Carlos Sainz as the "fraud" of the week for his costly crash in practice, which was caused by a loose drain cover.
* They nominate Charles Leclerc as the "good boy" of the week for his impressive performance in qualifying and the race.

**VIII. Random Fandom for Next Week**

* Dan and Blake select their teams for random fandom for the next race weekend in Abu Dhabi.
* Dan chooses Red Bull Racing, while Blake chooses Mercedes.

**IX. Conclusion**

* Dan and Blake wrap up the episode by discussing the upcoming Abu Dhabi Grand Prix and expressing their excitement for the final race of the season.
* They also remind listeners to check out their YouTube channel, where they post additional content, including interviews with drivers and engineers. Sure, here is a detailed summary of the podcast episode transcript:

**Introduction**

* The podcast begins with a discussion about the Las Vegas Grand Prix, its glamour, and the infamous drain covers that caused issues for some drivers.
* The hosts also mention the Formula One policy of not issuing refunds, which has been a source of frustration for some fans.

**Race Shenanigans**

* The race was filled with drama and incidents, including several collisions and safety car periods.
* The most notable incident was the collision between Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton on lap 17, which resulted in a puncture for Hamilton and a five-second penalty for Verstappen.
* Other incidents included a spin by Fernando Alonso, a collision between George Russell and Oscar Piastri, and a safety car period caused by debris from a collision between Verstappen and Russell.

**Race Analysis**

* The hosts analyze the performance of various drivers and teams, including Max Verstappen, Charles Leclerc, Sergio Perez, and Oscar Piastri.
* They discuss the different strategies employed by the teams, such as the use of hard tires and the timing of pit stops.
* They also highlight some underrated drives, such as Lance Stroll and Esteban Ocon, who both made impressive recoveries after difficult qualifying sessions.

**Track and Event Review**

* The hosts discuss the Las Vegas Grand Prix track and the overall event.
* They praise the track for providing overtaking opportunities and for producing an exciting race.
* However, they also criticize the event for being too commercial and lacking in atmosphere.
* They suggest some changes that could be made to improve the event, such as reducing the number of celebrities and focusing more on the racing.

**Conclusion**

* The hosts conclude the podcast by discussing the championship standings and the upcoming final race of the season.
* They also reflect on the Las Vegas Grand Prix and its place in the Formula One calendar.

**Overall, the podcast provides an informative and entertaining discussion of the Las Vegas Grand Prix, with insights from experienced Formula One experts.** # **2022 Las Vegas Grand Prix Recap**

## **Overview**

- The Las Vegas Grand Prix was a controversial race, with many criticizing the track layout and the lack of overtaking opportunities.
- However, the race did produce some exciting moments, including a thrilling battle for the lead between Max Verstappen and Sergio Perez.
- In the end, Verstappen won the race, with Perez finishing second and Lewis Hamilton taking the final podium spot.

## **Key Talking Points**

### **The Track Layout**

- The Las Vegas Grand Prix circuit was a temporary street circuit that was built around the Las Vegas Strip.
- The track was very narrow and twisty, with few overtaking opportunities.
- This made it difficult for drivers to make up positions, and the race was often processional.

### **The Race**

- The race started with Verstappen taking the lead from pole position.
- Perez quickly moved up to second place, and the two Red Bull drivers were able to pull away from the rest of the field.
- Hamilton was able to make up some ground in the second half of the race, but he was never able to challenge Verstappen and Perez for the lead.
- In the end, Verstappen won the race by a comfortable margin, with Perez finishing second and Hamilton taking the final podium spot.

### **The Controversies**

- The Las Vegas Grand Prix was marred by a number of controversies.
- One of the biggest controversies was the decision to hold the race on a Saturday night.
- This meant that many fans were unable to attend the race due to work or other commitments.
- Another controversy was the decision to charge fans a $100 fee to watch the race on a big screen in the city center.
- This was seen as a cash grab by Formula One, and it led to many fans boycotting the race.

## **Overall**

- The Las Vegas Grand Prix was a controversial race, but it did produce some exciting moments.
- The track layout was not ideal, but the race was still entertaining.
- The controversies surrounding the race will likely lead to changes being made for next year's event.

[00:00.000 -> 00:08.000] You're listening to the most fraudulent F1 podcast with Dan, a.k.a. EngineNode11.
[00:08.000 -> 00:12.120] I secretly moonlight as Helmut Marko at race weekends.
[00:12.120 -> 00:14.160] And Blake, a.k.a. Brake.
[00:14.160 -> 00:17.280] Echo chambers of farts and idiots on Twitter after races.
[00:17.280 -> 00:33.440] It's the Engine Breaking F1 podcast. Viva Las Vegas!
[00:33.440 -> 00:36.080] Welcome back everybody.
[00:36.080 -> 00:39.040] Episode 43, the Las Vegas Grand Prix review.
[00:39.040 -> 00:46.320] And if you're watching this on YouTube, you're wondering where do we get these sweet jackets? Well, our buddy Willow
[00:46.320 -> 00:52.640] aka Willow Creative, who does awesome cosplay, like absolutely insane cosplay stuff, definitely
[00:52.640 -> 00:57.960] check her out. She was like, hey, let me sort you out. So we did. So we've got official
[00:57.960 -> 01:03.280] unofficial jackets. So we're back. Welcome to the stream. My name is Blake. I'm joined
[01:03.280 -> 01:05.440] by Dan aka Engine engine mode 11.
[01:05.440 -> 01:09.400] And together we are two parts of the most fraudulent form of the one podcast.
[01:09.880 -> 01:11.040] So we're, we're
[01:11.800 -> 01:12.600] we are indeed.
[01:12.880 -> 01:18.320] And viewers and listeners, obviously I may look incredibly glamorous,
[01:18.560 -> 01:19.960] but you may hear in my voice.
[01:19.960 -> 01:21.160] I am absolutely.
[01:22.040 -> 01:23.040] Fucked at the minute.
[01:23.160 -> 01:24.640] My kids have bought home.
[01:25.040 -> 01:28.060] It's the season where they bring back all the disease from their school.
[01:28.600 -> 01:30.580] Uh, so I'm absolutely hanging tonight.
[01:30.780 -> 01:34.480] So, uh, if I look a little bit out of it, it's because I didn't have a
[01:34.480 -> 01:36.060] measuring spoon for the medicine.
[01:36.060 -> 01:39.380] So I just guessed it and I definitely guessed wrong.
[01:39.680 -> 01:40.720] So this could be good.
[01:41.540 -> 01:46.080] Dan's Dan's like two bottles deep on the hard stuff of the cough medicine.
[01:46.080 -> 01:48.680] So you know what you got anything left?
[01:48.680 -> 01:49.720] Cause I might need some.
[01:50.240 -> 01:51.880] But I've always got something for you, mate.
[01:53.180 -> 01:54.280] So what are we gonna do today?
[01:54.280 -> 01:55.720] Today we're going to talk through.
[01:55.720 -> 01:57.620] I don't think there's any crazy news going on.
[01:57.620 -> 01:58.620] We're going to go through, of course,
[01:58.620 -> 02:00.260] the Las Vegas Grand Prix review.
[02:00.560 -> 02:02.620] I've actually got sent some notes
[02:02.620 -> 02:04.260] from my buddy John, who is a track
[02:04.260 -> 02:06.000] marshal that I met in Austin.
[02:06.000 -> 02:08.540] And just his point of view from boots on the ground,
[02:08.540 -> 02:11.600] what it was like being there throughout the whole weekend,
[02:11.600 -> 02:12.740] even through the buildup.
[02:12.740 -> 02:16.340] We'll go through Fraud Watch and Engine Mode, Good Boy,
[02:16.340 -> 02:20.100] where we nominate a fraud and a good boy from the weekend.
[02:20.100 -> 02:21.140] It doesn't necessarily need to boy,
[02:21.140 -> 02:23.220] it could be a drain cover, for example,
[02:23.220 -> 02:25.140] but there's no drain covers that are good boys this weekend.
[02:25.440 -> 02:29.060] And then we'll pick our teams for random fandom for next week.
[02:29.360 -> 02:30.600] So you guys ready for it?
[02:30.600 -> 02:40.560] But I think the biggest news is we've got one race left the season and on one hand,
[02:41.360 -> 02:49.120] kind of sad on the other hand, I'm really ready for a break to go back, reset
[02:49.120 -> 02:50.120] the teams.
[02:50.120 -> 02:54.720] They'll get a couple months to finish putting together their new cars, but it's, it's not
[02:54.720 -> 02:56.440] too long before we're testing again.
[02:56.440 -> 02:58.960] So, uh, you know what?
[02:58.960 -> 03:03.080] Hell, you told me it's so easy doing this content, create a life that you just wish
[03:03.080 -> 03:14.920] the season never ends. Sorry, I just rebooting after listening to that load of shit.
[03:14.920 -> 03:18.640] But anyway, a huge shout out to Mike Litteris in the chat.
[03:18.640 -> 03:21.480] 70s called me what their jacket back.
[03:21.480 -> 03:22.600] That's pretty good.
[03:22.600 -> 03:25.240] I should introduce you to my buddy Mike. Mike Hawk.
[03:25.240 -> 03:33.660] You guys would get along really well. Why don't we? I don't know. Let's start. Start
[03:33.660 -> 03:39.360] a little bit top level. Let's get into Las Vegas Grand Prix. Max's was very Max Verstappen
[03:39.360 -> 03:44.840] was very outspoken this weekend about the Grand Prix at first, seemingly detached and
[03:44.840 -> 03:45.520] switched off
[03:45.520 -> 03:46.920] and completely over it.
[03:46.920 -> 03:49.880] And there was some people throwing around the idea that,
[03:49.880 -> 03:53.120] you know, maybe if the season was 18 races,
[03:53.120 -> 03:54.160] maybe he wouldn't be like this.
[03:54.160 -> 03:56.480] Maybe it's a little bit of burnout and I could see that.
[03:56.480 -> 03:59.680] But later in the weekend, we got a bit of a,
[04:00.560 -> 04:02.080] I don't remember which press conference it was,
[04:02.080 -> 04:03.560] but it was a little bit of a, he's like,
[04:03.560 -> 04:04.800] I hope you guys have some time
[04:04.800 -> 04:05.600] because I'm gonna talk for a minute.
[04:05.600 -> 04:11.800] He went on for two minutes being what I thought was quite detailed and thoughtful and clear
[04:11.800 -> 04:17.800] about his grievances with the direction F1 is taking, which is embodied by this.
[04:17.800 -> 04:19.880] What did you what did you think of that clip, Dan?
[04:19.880 -> 04:21.520] I think he was spot on.
[04:21.520 -> 04:25.280] I think, you know, when he initially come out and he was like, oh, we just
[04:25.280 -> 04:26.640] like middle fingers to everything.
[04:26.640 -> 04:28.040] Yeah, we just look like clowns.
[04:28.040 -> 04:30.240] I mean, arguably I agree.
[04:30.240 -> 04:33.520] You know, I've kind of the whole Thursday opening ceremony.
[04:34.080 -> 04:35.840] I'm not the target audience for that.
[04:35.840 -> 04:36.920] I didn't enjoy it.
[04:36.920 -> 04:38.440] It's not my sort of thing.
[04:38.440 -> 04:40.560] But you've hit the nail on the head with that statement.
[04:40.800 -> 04:44.280] You identify and recognize that you're not the target audience for that.
[04:44.280 -> 04:46.980] And you're not saying other people can't enjoy it.
[04:46.980 -> 04:49.820] You just simply said, that's not for me.
[04:49.820 -> 04:55.520] No, but he's two minute little speech and I've very nearly clipped it and was going
[04:55.520 -> 04:56.700] to insert it into this.
[04:56.700 -> 04:59.460] But frankly, I think F1 hate us enough as it is.
[04:59.460 -> 05:02.700] So we better not, we better not take their copyrighted material.
[05:02.700 -> 05:05.200] Um, but yeah, everything he said in
[05:05.200 -> 05:09.240] there, he was just like, Oh, Vegas doesn't have that sort of the emotional, the passion
[05:09.240 -> 05:13.480] of the traditional tracks. And I was like, yeah, spot on. That's that's how I feel. Yeah.
[05:13.480 -> 05:19.360] Oh yeah. I fully agreed with what he had to say. But I think that to that point, I agree
[05:19.360 -> 05:26.200] with that. And then a further point is it's like we're trying to build these side shows to get people
[05:26.200 -> 05:28.040] excited about motor racing.
[05:28.040 -> 05:34.700] And it kind of has felt like this weekend that motor racing was the side show.
[05:34.700 -> 05:37.300] And I mean, you know, it's good.
[05:37.300 -> 05:40.560] It's like, make this to appeal to these people, get some excitement, get some hype and bring
[05:40.560 -> 05:41.560] these people in.
[05:41.560 -> 05:46.840] But at the same time, it's like, we're getting, you know,
[05:46.840 -> 05:52.360] using these gimmicks to get people excited about the product because quite frankly, the
[05:52.360 -> 05:58.080] product isn't that great this season. And on one hand, Max has been insanely dominant.
[05:58.080 -> 06:03.040] He's destroyed everybody, including his teammate. He's won the constructors championship outright
[06:03.040 -> 06:05.800] on his own in a single car.
[06:15.440 -> 06:25.280] But then I don't know, I can't you can't just forget that Max is there and focus on the rest of it because nobody else is the TV's aren't in the TV broadcasts aren't treating it like that. So I mean, someone on Twitter, I posted that thing on the front on the Thursday saying all the opening ceremony production wise is it looks fantastic.
[06:25.280 -> 06:26.280] Yeah, it's amazing.
[06:26.280 -> 06:28.040] But I'm really not interested in this.
[06:28.040 -> 06:31.040] I just want to see some racing.
[06:31.040 -> 06:34.800] Someone very rightfully called me out and was just like, it's Vegas you moron.
[06:34.800 -> 06:35.800] What did you expect?
[06:35.800 -> 06:36.800] And I was like, you know what?
[06:36.800 -> 06:37.920] It's a very good point.
[06:37.920 -> 06:40.720] What the hell did we expect?
[06:40.720 -> 06:47.720] I think they did Vegas a service, but I think like all the new tracks that we've added are basically
[06:49.480 -> 06:50.800] These
[06:50.800 -> 06:57.820] Effectively solace Street Circuits now, I think we'll get on to I don't think we've done the Street Circuits f1
[06:58.880 -> 07:03.360] Liberty media. We don't want any more. We're done. We've we've well met the quota
[07:06.040 -> 07:09.960] don't want anymore. We've done we've we've well met the quota for street circuits, right? Let's get Hockenheim back. Let's let's work on some of the old school tracks.
[07:09.960 -> 07:12.720] Kiam, I can't even pronounce it.
[07:12.720 -> 07:13.720] Kailame.
[07:13.720 -> 07:15.200] That's the one, the South African one.
[07:15.200 -> 07:20.760] Bring back, bring back Kimchi and Konichiwa. Wait, what? No, Kailame.
[07:20.760 -> 07:22.520] Yeah, that's the one.
[07:22.520 -> 07:25.000] Yeah, Monaco's shit as well. So good.
[07:25.000 -> 07:28.560] No, but like I, I, I get his point, but here's, here's the other thing.
[07:28.560 -> 07:32.520] And I want to, I know we were in eight minutes and I haven't even talked about the Grand
[07:32.520 -> 07:40.300] Prix itself, but I binged the Bron documentary this week and it's on Hulu and Disney plus.
[07:40.300 -> 07:44.760] And it was just because that was probably, I started watching F1 in 2007.
[07:44.760 -> 07:48.320] I haven't been watching it my entire life. I didn't watch it, start watching until I was about 18.
[07:49.760 -> 07:55.840] And that story from the Bron car was about when I started really, really following Formula One.
[07:57.040 -> 08:06.000] And that story, it doesn't need the drive to survive narrative, it doesn't need that, so yes,
[08:06.000 -> 08:07.540] drive to survive did bring all the eyes
[08:07.540 -> 08:09.380] onto the sport.
[08:09.380 -> 08:10.840] And it's been great for it,
[08:10.840 -> 08:13.340] coupled with lockdown huge,
[08:13.380 -> 08:15.540] but there's no substance to it.
[08:15.540 -> 08:16.640] Most of the time,
[08:16.640 -> 08:19.140] once people start watching to it,
[08:19.140 -> 08:20.200] well, once people start watching
[08:20.200 -> 08:20.940] from when they realize
[08:20.940 -> 08:21.640] most of the narratives
[08:21.640 -> 08:22.440] from drive to survive
[08:22.440 -> 08:23.540] or nonsense anyway,
[08:23.540 -> 08:25.080] like literally manufactured.
[08:25.080 -> 08:28.160] So it's like, it serves a point, I'm not gonna bash it,
[08:28.160 -> 08:31.080] but why aren't we focusing on other things?
[08:31.080 -> 08:33.400] Like some of the amazing shit that has happened,
[08:33.400 -> 08:36.320] like that whole Braun arc from 2009,
[08:36.320 -> 08:38.160] not just cheap tricks and like,
[08:38.160 -> 08:40.000] oh my God, check out what happened.
[08:40.000 -> 08:41.720] But I think at the end of the day,
[08:41.720 -> 08:43.960] Formula One needs to make sure
[08:43.960 -> 08:50.060] that it has a better product for longevity and focus on the more interesting parts of the conversation, not
[08:50.060 -> 08:51.320] the stuff that's over tomorrow.
[08:51.700 -> 08:53.340] Like get people invested.
[08:54.460 -> 08:54.760] Yeah.
[08:55.020 -> 08:59.120] And you know, there'll be people listening to this and they're like, Oh, I got into F1
[08:59.300 -> 09:00.500] through drive to survive.
[09:00.840 -> 09:02.020] No, there's nothing wrong with that.
[09:03.000 -> 09:05.960] You know, I know if you go online, it's all a bit toxic. Like, Ooh, you drive to survive. No, there's nothing wrong with that. You know, I know if you go online, it's all a bit toxic.
[09:05.960 -> 09:07.640] Like, Ooh, you would drive to survive.
[09:07.960 -> 09:08.680] Fan or whatever.
[09:08.680 -> 09:09.360] People like that.
[09:09.400 -> 09:10.200] Gives a shit, man.
[09:10.920 -> 09:11.760] Honestly, I don't.
[09:11.800 -> 09:14.160] And I, I, I, I had to wind my neck in.
[09:14.160 -> 09:18.320] Cause I was like, you know, there's someone said something really stupid.
[09:18.320 -> 09:22.160] And I was like, of course, it's somebody with a driver profile picture and a bunch
[09:22.160 -> 09:25.300] of driver names in their comments
[09:25.300 -> 09:26.300] or the username.
[09:26.300 -> 09:28.740] And I was like, you know what?
[09:28.740 -> 09:30.420] That's actually not fair.
[09:30.420 -> 09:36.440] Because you know, I think the only problem I had with that is people that are obviously
[09:36.440 -> 09:41.940] into the sport and they're just getting in arguments with people about stuff that they
[09:41.940 -> 09:44.600] clearly haven't spent that much time.
[09:44.600 -> 09:45.000] But I don't know.
[09:45.480 -> 09:49.520] I think, I think that was unfair of me and I think I need to, uh, be a
[09:49.520 -> 09:50.680] little bit more thoughtful about that.
[09:51.160 -> 09:51.400] Yeah.
[09:51.440 -> 09:55.920] I think this weekend I went through the same arc as Verstappen in where
[09:56.640 -> 09:59.040] the first day in the Friday, I was like, this is bullshit.
[09:59.040 -> 10:00.680] Get this circuit off my calendar.
[10:00.920 -> 10:02.320] This is an affront to F1.
[10:02.720 -> 10:06.080] And then by the Sunday I was was like actually this serves a purpose i
[10:06.080 -> 10:14.080] understand it's you know it's one race uh you know it it turns out it was the third most watched race
[10:14.080 -> 10:19.760] of the year so far in america i think it's the top american race that was watched in america
[10:19.760 -> 10:25.840] so it all serves a purpose you know so it actually wasn't actually that bad at the end of the day
[10:25.840 -> 10:30.720] i thought the race was actually all right yeah for a street circuit it could have been a lot worse
[10:30.720 -> 10:36.160] i'll be honest i think it looks it's massive question mark over what's the point of miami now
[10:38.480 -> 10:45.800] i honestly yeah i'm i'm with that geographically, they can both exist, right?
[10:45.800 -> 10:50.520] Because what is it like 2000 miles between Vegas and Miami?
[10:50.520 -> 10:54.720] The very England head like mindset where I just think everything's an hour's drive away
[10:54.720 -> 10:55.720] at a maximum.
[10:55.720 -> 11:00.160] I keep forgetting America is just like eight hours and you're not even at the other end
[11:00.160 -> 11:01.160] of it.
[11:01.160 -> 11:02.160] Yeah.
[11:02.160 -> 11:07.040] But I think at the same time, they probably priced a lot of their their
[11:07.040 -> 11:12.840] new audience completely out of the event until last minute. It's like, oh, let me fly 2000
[11:12.840 -> 11:17.520] miles last minute to go to an event because hotels and, you know, grandstand tickets are
[11:17.520 -> 11:26.260] now affordable. So speaking of John or Erkin from the Marshall that I met in Austin, who was in Vegas, here's
[11:26.260 -> 11:29.540] his notes building up to the event from Tuesday.
[11:29.540 -> 11:34.540] So Tuesday was lots of promo from events and teams.
[11:34.540 -> 11:38.260] The Vegas strip was less busy than anticipated with fans and with a lot of people, but it
[11:38.260 -> 11:41.940] was very clear right away that Vegas was going all in.
[11:41.940 -> 11:46.480] From Wednesday, visitor traffic started to increase and a lot more pop-ups and promotional
[11:46.480 -> 11:47.560] events.
[11:47.560 -> 11:49.480] All the teams are doing stuff.
[11:49.480 -> 11:53.160] Thursday, the hotels and traffic start to ramp up massively.
[11:53.160 -> 11:57.320] Then obviously free practice one, drain cover, sketch.
[11:57.320 -> 12:02.520] But in general, Friday attendance, even before people getting booted out, which we'll come
[12:02.520 -> 12:05.680] back to, was not particularly high.
[12:05.680 -> 12:07.240] And it was at, you know,
[12:07.240 -> 12:10.000] super late in the evening to start with.
[12:10.000 -> 12:13.160] Friday free practice three, I think it was just busier,
[12:13.160 -> 12:14.080] nothing else.
[12:16.060 -> 12:18.160] And yeah, I mean, that was kind of,
[12:18.160 -> 12:20.800] that was kind of the most of it that he went through.
[12:20.800 -> 12:22.280] So it was interesting to see the buildup,
[12:22.280 -> 12:26.720] but I'm interested to see how this pans out next year.
[12:26.720 -> 12:29.080] How are they gonna pitch ticket price?
[12:29.080 -> 12:30.720] Same thing, I mean, look at it.
[12:30.720 -> 12:34.240] The 24 Hours of Le Mans is already sold out immediately.
[12:34.240 -> 12:37.480] And you know, like if we talk about like mainstream coverage
[12:37.480 -> 12:40.240] of the 24 Hours of Le Mans, it's there,
[12:40.240 -> 12:44.240] but it's not as prominent as Formula One.
[12:44.240 -> 12:48.800] But at the same time, holy shit, if you haven't been to the 24 hours of Le Mans, steal some
[12:48.800 -> 12:53.440] tickets from somebody because it's an experience.
[12:53.440 -> 12:54.440] Absolute banger.
[12:54.440 -> 12:55.440] Yeah.
[12:55.440 -> 13:01.360] So yeah, like you say, talking about Vegas, it wasn't a sellout.
[13:01.360 -> 13:04.600] And it was noticeably quiet during the free practice.
[13:04.600 -> 13:07.600] Well, it was very noticeably quiet during FP2.
[13:07.600 -> 13:12.600] Let's get into the weekend then, because that's, if you haven't followed the weekend, we'll
[13:12.600 -> 13:13.600] fill you in.
[13:13.600 -> 13:19.200] So free practice one, how far into the session did we get?
[13:19.200 -> 13:30.040] We got, I believe the official time is a whopping entire nine minutes. So there was a drain cover that came loose and it's not that they didn't weld the drain
[13:30.040 -> 13:31.040] covers down.
[13:31.040 -> 13:36.400] The drain covers had retaining mechanisms, but from the photos I saw, it looks like the
[13:36.400 -> 13:41.300] retaining sleeve that was into the tarmac yielded with the drain cover lid.
[13:41.300 -> 13:49.460] That punched a hole in the bottom of Carlos Sainz's car, destroyed his power unit, his energy store, lots of other shit.
[13:49.460 -> 13:54.420] Apparently you could see the ground through the car and Max made a comment in a presser
[13:54.420 -> 13:55.620] that kind of went under the radar.
[13:55.620 -> 13:58.140] Carlos was like, yeah, I couldn't feel my legs for a while.
[13:58.140 -> 13:59.460] Or Max said that he said that.
[13:59.460 -> 14:00.460] So I'm like, yikes.
[14:00.460 -> 14:04.060] Yeah, that's big time.
[14:04.060 -> 14:09.800] But was it not? Again, this is the cold and flu medicine kicking in.
[14:09.800 -> 14:13.760] Was it not Ocon that initially dislodged it and then signs hit it?
[14:13.760 -> 14:14.760] Probably yeah.
[14:14.760 -> 14:19.640] Because was it Ocon had to have a chassis change because it hit him as well.
[14:19.640 -> 14:23.960] That's weird that we didn't get any news, like we heard very little about Ocon after
[14:23.960 -> 14:24.960] the day.
[14:24.960 -> 14:26.160] Yeah. that we didn't get any news. Like we heard very little about Ocon after the day.
[14:26.560 -> 14:27.040] Yeah.
[14:28.800 -> 14:29.640] That's very dramatic footage.
[14:32.200 -> 14:34.400] Uh, from a track side camera of Carlos hitting it. It's just like a massive explosion of sparks.
[14:35.560 -> 14:35.720] Yeah.
[14:35.720 -> 14:36.600] It was loud as well.
[14:36.600 -> 14:39.800] If you had the sound turned up, but, uh, the track intimidated
[14:39.800 -> 14:41.720] science, 10 second penalty for that one.
[14:42.360 -> 14:42.760] Wow.
[14:43.000 -> 14:44.920] I was apparently Ocon here after, okay.
[14:44.920 -> 14:45.600] Sorry. It's the cold and flu medicine is messing that one. Wow. I was apparently off on here after. Okay, sorry.
[14:45.600 -> 14:46.600] It's the cold and flu medicine.
[14:46.600 -> 14:47.600] It's messing my head up already.
[14:47.600 -> 14:48.600] It is the cold and flu medicine.
[14:48.600 -> 14:49.600] Yeah.
[14:49.600 -> 14:55.960] So I think free practice 2 was delayed until something like 2.30am local time and it was
[14:55.960 -> 15:02.280] held under no fans because it sounds like from personnel staffing and clearing the stands
[15:02.280 -> 15:05.240] and circuit and facilities in time to open up the roads again.
[15:05.240 -> 15:07.880] They couldn't manage it unless they kicked everybody out.
[15:07.880 -> 15:11.760] So but that's great because if you if you were there on a Friday only ticket, you got
[15:11.760 -> 15:12.760] a refund.
[15:12.760 -> 15:15.800] I'm just kidding, you didn't.
[15:15.800 -> 15:16.800] You didn't get a refund.
[15:16.800 -> 15:21.760] You get a $200 merch voucher, which gets you, I think, half of a baseball cap.
[15:21.760 -> 15:23.740] Usually at Formula One with the prices.
[15:23.740 -> 15:29.760] Some of the photos that people put in online of the prices, it was like some of the Ferrari
[15:29.760 -> 15:32.760] stuff was like $600 for a jacket.
[15:32.760 -> 15:33.760] Oh no.
[15:33.760 -> 15:38.600] Mate, I don't even pay that for my entire contents of my wardrobe.
[15:38.600 -> 15:39.600] Yeah.
[15:39.600 -> 15:40.600] Oh my god.
[15:40.600 -> 15:47.960] If I spent £600 on a single item of clothing, I'd be sick.
[15:47.960 -> 15:52.000] As painfully apparent as everyone that's watching this can say, yeah, Dan, you clearly don't
[15:52.000 -> 15:53.000] spend money on clothes.
[15:53.000 -> 15:54.000] You're right, I don't.
[15:54.000 -> 15:55.000] I've given up on life, chat.
[15:55.000 -> 15:56.000] I've given up on life.
[15:56.000 -> 16:02.000] I've procreated, I've got three children that give me viruses.
[16:02.000 -> 16:04.000] I'm done in life.
[16:04.000 -> 16:05.360] I'm just waiting for the end.
[16:05.400 -> 16:06.800] Just rocking in my little room.
[16:07.200 -> 16:09.280] No Ferrari jacket for you, basically.
[16:10.200 -> 16:12.880] So yeah, so the promoters said.
[16:13.840 -> 16:16.680] No refunds, they didn't.
[16:17.040 -> 16:21.000] Basically, and there was a discussion about the wording of the non apology,
[16:21.000 -> 16:22.560] apology letter by which.
[16:23.640 -> 16:27.400] Apologizing would imply blame and then give people legal
[16:27.400 -> 16:28.400] rights.
[16:28.400 -> 16:32.600] But don't worry because there's a class action lawsuit in Nevada against the promoter, which
[16:32.600 -> 16:33.600] is Formula One.
[16:33.600 -> 16:34.600] It's out of track.
[16:34.600 -> 16:35.600] The Formula One owner.
[16:35.600 -> 16:36.600] It's out of track.
[16:36.600 -> 16:41.680] Vegas has legitimized itself as an American F1 circuit by getting its first lawsuit within
[16:41.680 -> 16:43.600] 10 minutes.
[16:43.600 -> 16:44.800] Yeah.
[16:44.800 -> 16:48.920] So free practice two. Leclerc was a rocket ship.
[16:48.920 -> 16:50.920] He was half a percent ahead of Alonzo.
[16:51.160 -> 16:55.240] Alpha Tauri were absolutely nowhere off of, you know, we think in their back last
[16:55.240 -> 16:59.880] week and now they're off the back of that with Alpina McLaren, uh, Williams, top
[16:59.880 -> 17:03.000] speed monster, uh, along with Bottas as well.
[17:03.560 -> 17:06.400] And then McLaren and Mercedes on the slower end
[17:06.400 -> 17:10.180] of the top speeds and mid-range in terms of performance.
[17:10.180 -> 17:14.880] Free practice two was mostly medium and high fuel running
[17:14.880 -> 17:17.440] in preparation for the race.
[17:17.440 -> 17:20.480] And then free practice three, people getting ready,
[17:20.480 -> 17:22.760] basically dress rehearsal for qualifying,
[17:22.760 -> 17:27.680] low fuel runs on the medium and soft and teams trying to figure out the run plan approach.
[17:27.680 -> 17:32.860] And yeah, Russell, Russell leads Piastri in the session while Ferrari are towards
[17:32.860 -> 17:37.980] the back, which is a good preparation for what we got on Saturday in qualifying.
[17:38.200 -> 17:38.520] Oh wait.
[17:39.560 -> 17:39.760] Yeah.
[17:40.000 -> 17:45.000] I rolling it back to FP2, that got extended to 90 minutes.
[17:45.520 -> 17:46.360] Correct.
[17:46.360 -> 17:49.020] Which was the old traditional length of time it took.
[17:50.100 -> 17:52.540] And they used to do 90 minutes FP sessions.
[17:52.540 -> 17:54.060] Did you watch FP2 live?
[17:54.940 -> 17:56.720] Or did you catch up?
[17:56.720 -> 18:00.220] When you say watch it, it was turned on,
[18:00.220 -> 18:04.580] but I was not spiritually present for no context,
[18:04.580 -> 18:07.840] cars driving in circles with no idea what fuel load they're on.
[18:07.840 -> 18:09.040] What lap time.
[18:09.040 -> 18:12.000] I forgot how long 90 minutes really was.
[18:12.000 -> 18:18.320] Yeah, it's the, I, as an engineer, I didn't mind them because you got a lot of useful data.
[18:18.320 -> 18:24.240] But as a, as a watching Free Practice 2 on TV, it's more throw it up in the background and see if anything cool happens.
[18:24.240 -> 18:26.520] It's not lock in for 90 minutes.
[18:26.520 -> 18:32.120] Yeah, yeah, I just, I watched it live and I was like, damn, I forgot this is what the
[18:32.120 -> 18:35.720] 90 minute sessions were like. I just took forever.
[18:35.720 -> 18:49.040] Yeah, it did. So before we get into qualifying, considering the circuit and its lack of preparation caused Sainz's issue with
[18:49.040 -> 18:56.360] his car. There were no concessions in the regulations. Sainz takes a 10 place grid penalty
[18:56.360 -> 19:07.640] because he changed the power unit and the energy store. So, you know, there's a huge argument that that should have been outside of the rules,
[19:07.640 -> 19:14.460] but let's say it was an engine, you know, power unit on its last leg, on its last race
[19:14.460 -> 19:20.800] and something happens, you know, force majeure, you fit a new one, you fit an equally aged
[19:20.800 -> 19:26.160] one. And I. Yeah, it's so complicated this because.
[19:27.040 -> 19:29.120] Like you have.
[19:32.800 -> 19:33.600] Like these F1 teams have got like a thousand people working in the factory.
[19:37.040 -> 19:39.200] And like 100 people are there to read the regulations, and then there's another 100 people just to find the loopholes in them.
[19:40.520 -> 19:43.640] Like the second you put force majeure in there, the teams are
[19:43.640 -> 19:45.880] going to find a way to abuse it.
[19:45.880 -> 19:53.960] I think it's massively harsh, but I also completely understand why that provision's not in there.
[19:53.960 -> 19:55.280] I don't know how you fix it.
[19:55.280 -> 19:59.360] I mean, do you just stick a line in there that says, oh, if a drain cover hits your
[19:59.360 -> 20:01.160] car you get a freebie?
[20:01.160 -> 20:08.960] But you know, how long is that list going to be by the time you defined everything and then, you know, but there is definitely going to be an
[20:08.960 -> 20:10.400] instance that falls outside of it.
[20:10.400 -> 20:12.600] So then you back at, you know, stage one again.
[20:12.600 -> 20:14.160] So I, this is shit show.
[20:14.200 -> 20:14.640] I'm with you.
[20:15.800 -> 20:16.720] Now I'm with you on that one.
[20:16.720 -> 20:17.120] Totally.
[20:17.160 -> 20:17.640] So.
[20:19.280 -> 20:21.160] Bah, bah.
[20:21.360 -> 20:22.800] All right, let's, let's get into qualifying.
[20:23.320 -> 20:28.240] So, you know, before the race weekend, we were like in the forecast, the forecast like two
[20:28.240 -> 20:33.640] weeks out was for like ambient temperatures like in the 40s Fahrenheit or like 5 degrees
[20:33.640 -> 20:38.120] Celsius at the end of the day, the track temps we had through the weekend were about 14 to
[20:38.120 -> 20:41.340] 18 degrees Celsius, which I think is in the 50s.
[20:41.340 -> 20:45.640] So it's not freezing, but it's very outside of the normal thing in which
[20:45.640 -> 20:51.840] these tires operate. And that was quite clear that that was having people over and they
[20:51.840 -> 20:56.840] weren't quite sure what to do. So qualifying one was a mix of drivers doing a single new
[20:56.840 -> 21:01.080] tire and just going fast, slow, fast, trying to build temperature in the bulk of the tire.
[21:01.080 -> 21:05.800] And then teams going fast, slow, fast in lap and then fitting a second tire.
[21:05.800 -> 21:10.240] And it was it was like there was teams that got knocked out that did a single run.
[21:10.240 -> 21:13.640] There was teams that made it through to Q2 on a single run.
[21:13.640 -> 21:16.240] Norris, horrible out.
[21:16.240 -> 21:22.480] Tsunoda, Piastri, Joe O'Connor and Norris all knocked out in Q1.
[21:22.480 -> 21:27.340] And that's interesting when we look at Piastri's performance in the race.
[21:27.340 -> 21:31.520] But I think in general, when you see a split of run plans like that, the teams are trying
[21:31.520 -> 21:37.440] to compromise two things. So how much surface temperature building, how much degradation
[21:37.440 -> 21:41.420] you're getting, like so chemical compound changes from heating and stressing the tire
[21:41.420 -> 21:47.360] and then losing performance. And then you're tried to do enough laps to get heat in the bulk of the tire because the tire
[21:47.360 -> 21:51.540] is just leeching temperature out into the tarmac through conduction.
[21:51.540 -> 21:56.720] It's cooling down from the ambient air and the track has a couple high speed corners,
[21:56.720 -> 22:00.580] tops, long straights, which basically just bleed tire temperature.
[22:00.580 -> 22:03.080] So surface temperatures are dropping massively.
[22:03.080 -> 22:07.740] Carcass temperatures are dropping on the straights as well. But yeah, that was...
[22:07.740 -> 22:13.300] And there's streets as well, which are covered in dirt and grime from being used every day.
[22:13.300 -> 22:20.380] Yeah. I don't feel like it wasn't that apparent that it was like this super, super slick like
[22:20.380 -> 22:26.240] Turkey slash Austin its first year, but I might've just missed the context of that, but
[22:26.880 -> 22:33.120] that was interesting. In Q2, again, a mix of drivers doing two runs versus a single run.
[22:33.120 -> 22:38.720] And we lost Ricardo, Stroll, Hulkenberg, Perez, and Hamilton. And that was an interesting one
[22:38.720 -> 22:46.240] because there was a conversation between Hugh and Jek, and their plan was to go out and be
[22:46.240 -> 22:48.760] in sync with everybody else.
[22:48.760 -> 22:51.340] And they boxed at the end of the run.
[22:51.340 -> 22:55.720] But the people that they went out in sync with were the people that were doing two runs
[22:55.720 -> 22:59.240] anyway, and Checo only did a single run.
[22:59.240 -> 23:04.120] So he was hopelessly down in terms of performance.
[23:04.120 -> 23:06.200] I'm just trying to load up his lap times there. He was hopelessly down in terms of performance.
[23:06.200 -> 23:08.600] I'm just trying to load up his lap times there, but I mean, he was...
[23:09.800 -> 23:11.480] Yeah, that was not ideal.
[23:12.120 -> 23:17.160] Checo's time was a 33.8, and everybody else, like the top of that session,
[23:17.160 -> 23:19.160] was five, six tenths faster than him.
[23:19.480 -> 23:27.040] Max was only three tenths faster in Q2, but fine margins and not enough to not be out there
[23:27.040 -> 23:30.140] on the track when it was at the best because there was a huge amount of track evolution
[23:30.140 -> 23:31.140] through that.
[23:31.140 -> 23:32.140] Yeah.
[23:32.140 -> 23:33.140] Strange.
[23:33.140 -> 23:34.140] It was a very strange one.
[23:34.140 -> 23:38.920] Yeah, I didn't, yeah, I didn't expect, I think they were expecting everybody else to go out
[23:38.920 -> 23:42.200] on the same program and there are people that went out on a scrub tire and fit a new at
[23:42.200 -> 23:47.720] the end and they were there when the track had ramped up even more and Checo's tires were tired and everything
[23:47.720 -> 23:48.720] else.
[23:48.720 -> 23:49.720] But Q3.
[23:49.720 -> 23:50.720] Sorry, I have to interrupt you.
[23:50.720 -> 23:51.720] Cat update.
[23:51.720 -> 23:55.360] A cat has just entered Blake's room, ladies and gentlemen.
[23:55.360 -> 23:58.600] Hi Sterling, have you had dinner, buddy?
[23:58.600 -> 23:59.680] No?
[23:59.680 -> 24:00.680] I think you have had dinner.
[24:00.680 -> 24:01.680] Okay.
[24:01.680 -> 24:06.320] Sterling has said hello.
[24:13.760 -> 24:18.480] So Q3, Leclerc signs for Stappen. I did not have, I didn't not have Ferrari front row on my bingo card. I think we kind of knew on the speedy tracks, the high efficiency we saw in Monza,
[24:18.480 -> 24:25.000] they were pretty strong. Russell P4, Gasly P5 was not on my card.
[24:25.440 -> 24:28.280] Again, the Alpine doing that good straight line speed,
[24:28.280 -> 24:31.480] but they go back and forth between slippy car
[24:31.480 -> 24:34.900] and kind of like draggy, not particularly quick car.
[24:35.720 -> 24:38.920] Albon P6, Sargent P7.
[24:38.920 -> 24:39.760] Let's go.
[24:39.760 -> 24:41.520] Come on, Albon and Sargent.
[24:44.080 -> 24:52.760] But Bottas and Magn Magnussen P8 and 9, as usual they disappear into like, yeah, and then Alonso
[24:52.760 -> 24:53.760] P10.
[24:53.760 -> 24:58.920] Yeah, the Haas special where they build a quick car and then completely compromise their
[24:58.920 -> 24:59.920] race.
[24:59.920 -> 25:03.640] It seems to be a recurring theme with them, bless them.
[25:03.640 -> 25:08.400] Well it's interesting and I had this chat with somebody else and I'm getting like imposter
[25:08.400 -> 25:09.400] syndrome.
[25:09.400 -> 25:10.400] Is this my thought or somebody else's thought?
[25:10.400 -> 25:14.680] And we shared the same brain on this one, but it's interesting that two cars with the
[25:14.680 -> 25:17.800] worst degradation on the grid have the same suspension.
[25:17.800 -> 25:25.480] But a little bit of foreshadowing, Ferrari didn't have that problem, or at least at least the
[25:25.480 -> 25:29.880] Claire didn't because he was fucking fast boy.
[25:29.880 -> 25:33.040] So let's let's let's so performance trends.
[25:33.040 -> 25:38.240] An interesting thing that I noted over the last four events since the USA Grand Prix.
[25:38.240 -> 25:43.440] Red Bull has been slowly dropping back in single lap qualifying performance.
[25:43.440 -> 25:45.400] I think Las Vegas is an outlier, but it's
[25:45.400 -> 25:50.120] literally a 10th percent, a 10th percent, a 10th percent each of the last couple of
[25:50.120 -> 25:58.160] races. McLaren were like 2.2% off of pole. And yes, there was a huge amount of track
[25:58.160 -> 26:05.200] evolution, but they haven't been that far off of pole since Miami and Australia.
[26:06.200 -> 26:07.560] Australia was another cold track.
[26:07.920 -> 26:11.400] Zach Brown was on the radio on the intercom on the broadcast saying like,
[26:12.120 -> 26:15.200] yeah, I kind of just, um, yeah, we kind of expected it.
[26:15.200 -> 26:17.600] You know, our car is not that great in low speed corners and
[26:17.600 -> 26:21.480] there's lots of straights, but when you're 2% off of pole and
[26:21.480 -> 26:24.640] their recent form is about half a percent off pole or closer,
[26:25.040 -> 26:26.040] they fuck something up.
[26:26.060 -> 26:30.120] If you go look at their straight line speed and qualifying, that is
[26:30.120 -> 26:31.360] not where they were losing time.
[26:31.800 -> 26:34.640] You look at, you look at their grip and through the corners.
[26:35.760 -> 26:36.240] Nowhere.
[26:36.480 -> 26:39.360] I'll have to go and check this out because this is one of those things
[26:39.360 -> 26:43.120] that I read on Twitter and who knows how true it was, but someone said
[26:43.120 -> 26:50.960] that the McLaren was running, uh like a Monza spec bodywork because they pretty much decided to sacrifice Vegas.
[26:50.960 -> 26:55.160] With all the other upgrades they've bought, they were like, yeah, fine,
[26:55.160 -> 26:57.160] we'll just bring Monza to Vegas, whatever.
[26:57.160 -> 26:59.960] I'm not sure how true that is.
[26:59.960 -> 27:01.400] I haven't verified it.
[27:01.400 -> 27:06.920] I mean, if it's an efficiency thing, and there's a body work that's good for
[27:06.920 -> 27:09.840] efficiency and straights and a couple of speed corners, that would totally make
[27:09.840 -> 27:13.040] sense, but I don't bottom line.
[27:13.280 -> 27:16.320] There were a lot of teams struggling like fuck with tire preparation.
[27:16.320 -> 27:20.900] You could see that by the fact that teams doing two, two laps or two runs
[27:20.900 -> 27:26.280] versus a single run, trying to build temperature, they completely cocked up the tire prep,
[27:26.280 -> 27:27.920] is the only thing I can think.
[27:29.560 -> 27:31.080] Yeah.
[27:31.080 -> 27:36.080] So Mercedes consistently about 0.4 to 0.5%
[27:36.080 -> 27:37.280] off of the fastest lap,
[27:37.280 -> 27:40.720] their performance in qualifying was actually quite normal
[27:40.720 -> 27:44.440] for the second half of the season, nothing stand out.
[27:44.440 -> 27:46.560] I mean, and Russell P4 wasn't bad.
[27:47.640 -> 27:53.960] Um, but yeah, I think that, I think a lot of that was down to tires and people not
[27:53.960 -> 28:00.880] getting them optimized, having a compromise Friday, first weekend, uh, yeah.
[28:00.880 -> 28:02.120] New street circuit as well.
[28:02.120 -> 28:04.080] It always brings challenges.
[28:04.880 -> 28:12.000] Yeah. But, um, interesting, but since But since we're getting ready to go to the race, why don't we take a quick break?
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[29:17.400 -> 29:17.760] Thank you.
[29:17.760 -> 29:18.080] Chat.
[29:18.080 -> 29:19.320] I couldn't do this without you.
[29:20.000 -> 29:23.600] And while I got to blow my nose, Blake, why don't you tell people
[29:23.600 -> 29:24.680] how they can catch us live?
[29:26.440 -> 29:28.920] You can catch us live on YouTube, obviously.
[29:30.200 -> 29:31.720] You can't log it out than that, mate.
[29:31.720 -> 29:33.160] I've only just got the tissue out of the box.
[29:33.440 -> 29:33.720] Yeah.
[29:33.720 -> 29:34.280] Well, you know what?
[29:34.280 -> 29:35.680] I'll get into the race because yeah.
[29:35.920 -> 29:39.120] And if you're watching this, if you're listening to us, don't forget, we also
[29:39.120 -> 29:45.820] stream these live on the Engine Breaking YouTube channel. So don't forget.
[29:45.820 -> 29:47.280] But I'm gonna, I've got some,
[29:47.280 -> 29:48.240] we're gonna get into the race,
[29:48.240 -> 29:51.000] but if you really, really, really
[29:51.000 -> 29:53.320] want to get into the race data,
[29:53.320 -> 29:56.640] I've released two free newsletter articles
[29:56.640 -> 29:59.200] over on buymeacoffee.com front slash brake.
[29:59.200 -> 30:03.500] That's B-R-R-R-A-K-E, or just go to brake.com.
[30:03.500 -> 30:06.800] I did the entire race summary like a strategic performance
[30:06.800 -> 30:09.920] analysis point of view, and I also did a detailed breakdown
[30:09.960 -> 30:13.720] of the Claire and Paris at the end of the race and overtaking
[30:13.720 -> 30:18.160] each other. So definitely, definitely, definitely check
[30:18.160 -> 30:21.560] that out. You will not. You will not regret it. It's like
[30:21.560 -> 30:24.280] literally bullet pointed summary. And then if you go a
[30:24.280 -> 30:26.200] little layer deeper than a little layer
[30:26.200 -> 30:29.500] deeper, and I publish those race and qualifying reports every
[30:29.500 -> 30:33.800] weekend, usually to members, but for the price of a coffee a
[30:33.800 -> 30:37.200] month. It's not, it's not too bad. And you'll know more than
[30:37.200 -> 30:39.800] all your mates about Formula One, even though I miss a lot of
[30:39.800 -> 30:42.600] the important stuff because yeah, but anyway,
[30:42.600 -> 30:45.160] I'm all about F1 than I do for fuck's sake.
[30:45.160 -> 30:50.040] That's not very hard.
[30:50.040 -> 30:52.760] So let's talk about it.
[30:52.760 -> 31:00.200] Race shenanigans lap one for Stappen bullies Leclerc off track offline overtake runs out
[31:00.200 -> 31:05.240] of track Alonzo Spinolas Perez gets front wing damage.
[31:05.240 -> 31:12.920] Sunota, Stroll and Piastri all avoid the carnage and have insane starts.
[31:12.920 -> 31:13.920] I think.
[31:13.920 -> 31:17.040] Let's talk about the big man.
[31:17.040 -> 31:18.040] All right, big.
[31:18.040 -> 31:19.960] All right, boss man.
[31:19.960 -> 31:22.520] Now I just need a kebab if I say boss man shit.
[31:22.520 -> 31:23.520] Yes, boss.
[31:23.520 -> 31:24.520] All right, boss.
[31:24.520 -> 31:25.960] I need a kebab. I've got some tomato pasta downstairs, boss. All right, boss, I need a kebab.
[31:25.960 -> 31:29.580] I've got some tomato pasta downstairs, but I'm going to go drive out and get a dirty
[31:29.580 -> 31:30.580] kebab tonight.
[31:30.580 -> 31:31.580] Fuck it.
[31:31.580 -> 31:37.440] But let's let's talk about their staff and penalty because it goes something like this.
[31:37.440 -> 31:42.160] It goes investigated lap one for pushing the clear off the track.
[31:42.160 -> 31:43.160] Valid.
[31:43.160 -> 31:45.680] When you intentional or not, it happened.
[31:45.680 -> 31:47.680] That's a fact, right?
[31:47.680 -> 31:49.740] Now back in the day,
[31:49.740 -> 31:51.800] they would often be like, oh, you know,
[31:51.800 -> 31:53.120] like you know, can you give that back?
[31:53.120 -> 31:54.960] But now it's just fucking bang.
[31:54.960 -> 31:56.120] Five second penalty.
[31:56.120 -> 31:59.480] The thing was, though, we had.
[31:59.480 -> 32:01.760] What's two three laps of safety,
[32:01.760 -> 32:06.400] VSC and then two three laps of safety is VSC and then two or three laps of safety car.
[32:09.380 -> 32:09.980] Should we should you just give the position back?
[32:12.240 -> 32:12.280] Sure, like what should the de facto thing be?
[32:13.640 -> 32:13.680] Should you get the position back?
[32:16.680 -> 32:17.420] Should you get 5 second penalty or the further statement is?
[32:20.880 -> 32:20.920] The 5 second penalty is noted by many as being far too lenient.
[32:24.060 -> 32:24.520] Considering you can just bully your way through in some instances.
[32:27.080 -> 32:29.160] So give me give So give me your...
[32:30.640 -> 32:31.240] This is a tough one.
[32:31.680 -> 32:31.920] It is.
[32:33.600 -> 32:33.720] No, I do.
[32:35.200 -> 32:35.800] I completely agree. It's a tough one.
[32:40.000 -> 32:41.200] Should you give the place back?
[32:41.200 -> 32:41.400] Right.
[32:41.440 -> 32:42.320] That's your only option.
[32:42.320 -> 32:43.120] Give the place back.
[32:44.080 -> 32:48.260] Because if there's a lot of cases where if you give the place back? Right. That's your only option. Give the place back. Because if there's a lot of cases where if you give the place back, you're
[32:48.260 -> 32:51.260] going to lose more than just that place you've given back because of just
[32:51.260 -> 32:55.800] the flow of the circuits and the proximity of other cars, we've seen it
[32:55.800 -> 32:59.700] before, I think in a couple of races ago, was it, I want to say one of the
[32:59.700 -> 33:02.500] Alpines or something had to give a place back and they got jumped by
[33:02.500 -> 33:03.780] an Aston or something as well.
[33:04.460 -> 33:04.860] I don't know.
[33:04.860 -> 33:05.320] It was something like that. I don't know.
[33:05.320 -> 33:06.320] It was something like that.
[33:06.320 -> 33:07.320] I vaguely remember it, but.
[33:07.320 -> 33:16.080] Oh man, I think I think I'm going to take the real pussy option and say there's no easy
[33:16.080 -> 33:17.080] way.
[33:17.080 -> 33:22.520] I don't think you're wrong, bro.
[33:22.520 -> 33:27.000] I think giving the place back is not always possible,
[33:27.000 -> 33:29.100] because what if you overtake someone?
[33:29.900 -> 33:32.400] And by by means of pushing them off track
[33:32.400 -> 33:33.700] and then you overtake another car.
[33:34.500 -> 33:35.800] You have to get both places back,
[33:35.800 -> 33:37.700] or what if that person has to spin
[33:37.700 -> 33:39.300] and they go back like what do you do?
[33:39.300 -> 33:40.500] It's like then there's like if this
[33:40.500 -> 33:41.700] than that if this and that.
[33:42.300 -> 33:44.700] I think if you're in a fast car
[33:44.700 -> 33:47.000] and you are out of the gaggle of cars,
[33:47.900 -> 33:49.360] a five second penalty is fair.
[33:50.240 -> 33:52.000] Or sorry, a five second penalty is lenient.
[33:52.460 -> 33:54.680] But imagine your pack racing in the midfield.
[33:55.800 -> 33:59.360] Five seconds is like, do you remember signs in Melbourne?
[34:00.200 -> 34:00.480] Yeah.
[34:00.880 -> 34:01.080] Yeah.
[34:01.200 -> 34:03.000] It could be like three, four positions.
[34:03.200 -> 34:03.600] Yeah.
[34:04.640 -> 34:05.520] I don't know.
[34:05.520 -> 34:06.760] That's a tough one.
[34:06.760 -> 34:12.400] Why don't we just agree as former Red Bull employees that Max Verstappen should get away
[34:12.400 -> 34:13.400] with everything?
[34:13.400 -> 34:17.200] Why don't we just feed into that conspiracy and toxicity?
[34:17.200 -> 34:18.200] No.
[34:18.200 -> 34:19.200] No?
[34:19.200 -> 34:20.200] No, I don't think so.
[34:20.200 -> 34:21.200] I'm going to embrace it.
[34:21.200 -> 34:23.200] Max Verstappen did nothing wrong.
[34:23.200 -> 34:26.040] Oh my God.
[34:26.040 -> 34:28.040] Never has.
[34:28.040 -> 34:34.360] Yeah, speaking of why we got the safety car after the virtual safety restart, Norris shunts
[34:34.360 -> 34:38.200] and causes a huge safety car situation.
[34:38.200 -> 34:44.100] It looks like low grip after the VSC, a bump and slightly loaded up over the bump and he
[34:44.100 -> 34:45.080] just yeeted it, man.
[34:45.080 -> 34:47.880] Like that's not really a Lando thing, is it?
[34:49.360 -> 34:54.540] No, it had all the hallmarks of, uh, like you say, hitting a bump and unsettling
[34:54.540 -> 35:00.120] the car because it just looked like one of my many crashes in iRacing.
[35:00.240 -> 35:02.280] I was like, Oh, I've crashed like that a lot of times.
[35:03.320 -> 35:04.920] I know I could walk you through that.
[35:05.200 -> 35:06.200] Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
[35:06.200 -> 35:10.080] So that was that was unfortunate because I really would have liked to have seen what
[35:10.080 -> 35:13.200] Lando could have done around lap 17.
[35:13.200 -> 35:16.280] Science, science's engineers are talking to him about overheating.
[35:16.280 -> 35:17.880] And that's one of the things people like.
[35:17.880 -> 35:18.880] It's like 1415 degrees.
[35:18.880 -> 35:19.880] How are you overheating?
[35:19.880 -> 35:24.280] It's like when the ambient temperatures are that cold, you have to blank up the radiators
[35:24.280 -> 35:27.820] and close up the bodywork so the engine can generate temperature.
[35:27.820 -> 35:31.380] You can't run the engine at five degrees Celsius.
[35:31.380 -> 35:37.180] So whatever situation they put themselves in, science was struggling with engine cooling,
[35:37.180 -> 35:38.180] it looks like.
[35:38.180 -> 35:40.140] So there's like, hello, mate, pull out of the tow.
[35:40.140 -> 35:43.340] Uh, I'll just go back one step.
[35:43.340 -> 35:47.640] Someone in the chat has asked, was Norris offline at all during his bump and shunt?
[35:47.640 -> 35:52.580] Now it's a good question because why did it only happen to him and no one else?
[35:52.580 -> 35:55.220] The quick answer is, I don't know.
[35:55.220 -> 35:56.220] Skill issue.
[35:56.220 -> 35:57.220] Skill issue, fuck.
[35:57.220 -> 36:01.260] You just said to me you weren't going to feed into the toxicity.
[36:01.260 -> 36:02.260] You fucking fraud.
[36:02.260 -> 36:09.840] I don't know, high fuel loads, maybe other drivers were warned about that area.
[36:09.840 -> 36:13.040] I don't know is the quick answer to that.
[36:13.040 -> 36:15.760] Unfortunately, I don't know the full details of that one.
[36:15.760 -> 36:17.160] So yeah.
[36:17.160 -> 36:24.000] So let's talk about the next shenanigan where we had lap 17 to 18 Hamilton-Piastri collide.
[36:24.000 -> 36:29.500] So Hamilton comes through on Piastri and Piastri's front left wheel touches Lewis's.
[36:31.300 -> 36:31.940] Right rear wheel.
[36:33.500 -> 36:36.140] And Piastri boxes immediately.
[36:37.500 -> 36:38.440] Hamilton stays out.
[36:39.440 -> 36:42.900] After crossing the pit lane entry, he finds out that he has a puncture,
[36:42.900 -> 36:45.360] so he loses about 20 seconds trundling
[36:45.360 -> 36:49.920] around to bring the car back in for a stop. And that, I'm not really sure the outcome of that on
[36:49.920 -> 36:55.040] his race, but let's put it this way, losing 20 seconds never is going to help your race that.
[36:55.040 -> 37:00.480] That's for sure. No, no, even when they were like in their domination era, 20 seconds was still like
[37:02.340 -> 37:02.640] was still like, Oh yeah. Yeah.
[37:02.640 -> 37:09.340] So I mean, yeah, but that was, um, that was interesting.
[37:09.340 -> 37:11.260] Cause it was like, it wasn't one of those things.
[37:12.620 -> 37:16.380] Like that was one of those, you come through castries trying not to give up
[37:16.380 -> 37:18.320] too much time and they just tap wheels.
[37:18.360 -> 37:22.300] I feel like that's one of those easy racing incidents, unfortunately, it did
[37:22.300 -> 37:24.080] result in a puncture for both of them.
[37:25.360 -> 37:29.960] Again, didn't look malicious, but yeah, it was like the smallest of taps as well, and
[37:29.960 -> 37:30.960] it caused all that.
[37:30.960 -> 37:33.760] And it was wheel to wheel.
[37:33.760 -> 37:36.200] I'm not certain this is a thing, but I'm going to lean into it.
[37:36.200 -> 37:42.840] The idea that these the way these rims and tires are set up is fucking sketch, honestly.
[37:42.840 -> 37:45.440] Yes, I agree.
[37:45.480 -> 37:50.960] There is too many instances of carcasses separating from the tire.
[37:51.960 -> 37:56.840] And the rim splitting where the tire joins the wheel.
[37:58.160 -> 37:59.880] That has happened a lot.
[38:00.240 -> 38:05.600] And did we not, did we not see it in FP2 or FP1?
[38:05.600 -> 38:07.600] Someone backed the wheel didn't they?
[38:07.600 -> 38:09.600] Was it one of the Williams?
[38:09.600 -> 38:11.600] Albon I believe.
[38:11.600 -> 38:14.800] The cold and flu medicines kicked in again so I don't know if I've just made that up.
[38:14.800 -> 38:16.800] No I think it did happen, we did lose...
[38:16.800 -> 38:22.800] Yeah it just cracked the entire outer lip of the wheel off and then the tire just goes, hey, see you later.
[38:22.800 -> 38:28.220] Yeah and then obviously you know we've seen that damage that can happen.
[38:28.320 -> 38:28.640] Right.
[38:28.680 -> 38:33.160] We saw that in Brazil, smashed the back of Danny Rick's car.
[38:33.640 -> 38:33.920] Yeah.
[38:33.960 -> 38:37.240] Or in, uh, in Melbourne, when there was a chunk of wheel rim
[38:37.240 -> 38:38.480] that hit some dude in the crowd.
[38:38.880 -> 38:39.520] Oh shit.
[38:39.520 -> 38:39.680] Yeah.
[38:39.680 -> 38:40.440] I forgot about that.
[38:40.440 -> 38:40.840] Yeah.
[38:41.800 -> 38:42.120] Yeah.
[38:43.320 -> 38:43.520] Right.
[38:43.520 -> 38:47.040] He just had a couple of cuts on his arm, but good story to tell.
[38:47.640 -> 38:48.040] Yeah.
[38:49.160 -> 38:53.960] So fast forward a bit, lap 25 Russell Verstappen contact.
[38:54.480 -> 38:58.680] Um, I, I, I leaned it at people like, I can't believe Verstappen did that.
[38:59.560 -> 39:02.080] Um, Russell gets a five second penalty and some people like not.
[39:02.080 -> 39:05.360] And then after the race, Russell's like, yeah yeah mate, I just didn't see him there.
[39:05.360 -> 39:06.920] That was totally on me.
[39:06.920 -> 39:09.000] So I think that one was kind of clear.
[39:09.000 -> 39:14.000] Verstappen gets front wing damage, but he just pisses off into the distance anyway.
[39:14.000 -> 39:17.320] And that was after Max served his 5 second penalty to stop.
[39:17.320 -> 39:21.760] So he's kind of got a little get a little regain on to come back through, but.
[39:21.760 -> 39:26.320] Yeah, he managed his way pretty quickly through traffic. Unfortunately,
[39:26.320 -> 39:31.040] that collision did cause a substantial amount of debris, which pulled out our next safety car,
[39:31.040 -> 39:39.280] which screwed a bunch of people's races up massively, namely Oscar Piastri. But yeah,
[39:40.560 -> 39:46.960] Leclerc also really didn't do too handsomely from that because Max fit a new medium or
[39:46.960 -> 39:51.280] sorry new hard checko stop for his hard tire and it's like.
[39:51.280 -> 39:52.280] Yeah.
[39:52.280 -> 39:56.960] Yeah, so the safety car to clean that up.
[39:56.960 -> 40:02.920] But yeah, let's let's dig into a couple threads from the race.
[40:02.920 -> 40:06.640] Perez race was pretty good to finish, you know, fighting for the podium spot or so fighting for the second step on the race. Pérez race was pretty good to finish, you know, fighting for the podium spot
[40:06.640 -> 40:11.600] or so fighting for the second step on the podium, honestly, up until the very last lap where Leclerc
[40:12.720 -> 40:17.920] saw an opportunity in Roy off. Yeah. Paris did not. Paris just gave him the opportunity. It
[40:17.920 -> 40:23.600] looked like, but that was some good racing. I did enjoy that. Yeah. Yeah. Good racing.
[40:23.600 -> 40:25.600] But so Paris basically though.
[40:26.120 -> 40:28.040] He's on a medium at the race start, right?
[40:28.560 -> 40:30.000] And after that safety car,
[40:30.000 -> 40:32.320] he boxes for no race start.
[40:32.320 -> 40:33.880] He has wing damage and he boxes.
[40:34.480 -> 40:35.960] He goes into a heart and he just splits
[40:35.960 -> 40:37.560] the race into two hard stints
[40:37.600 -> 40:39.360] and his second pit stop
[40:39.680 -> 40:40.920] is under the safety car.
[40:40.920 -> 40:42.760] So it's like catching.
[40:43.280 -> 40:49.680] Bosch that was pretty good.
[40:49.680 -> 40:55.720] For Stappen first stint on the medium, he struggled like hell with graining. Max did
[40:55.720 -> 41:02.780] 16 laps and he suffered quite a bit. Leclerc went all the way and did 21 laps before pitting
[41:02.780 -> 41:06.160] for the hard and like Leclerc just kept going.
[41:06.420 -> 41:09.400] Max's Max's tires were absolutely fucked.
[41:09.400 -> 41:15.340] So this is one of those times when we see the Ferrari doing its tire destroying
[41:15.340 -> 41:21.200] thing, actually probably putting enough energy and heat into the tires to skip
[41:21.200 -> 41:21.960] the grainy face.
[41:21.960 -> 41:24.120] Matt Walters, J.D.: It actually helps them because the temperatures were so cool.
[41:24.260 -> 41:26.920] And the ambient was so cool.
[41:26.920 -> 41:31.720] That's the only thing I can think is that whatever Charles did or the car did combined
[41:31.720 -> 41:37.720] with him, they were able to have pace and not have to worry about graining.
[41:37.720 -> 41:48.960] I didn't even think about that, but yeah, you said it, it makes complete sense. So yeah, I mean, Perez leads both of them after Verstappen
[41:48.960 -> 41:53.120] and Leclerc pit. Leclerc leads at the safety car because both the Red Bulls stopped for
[41:53.120 -> 41:57.920] new tires and then Perez and Leclerc basically tangle back and forth entirely until the end
[41:57.920 -> 42:01.160] of the race and Verstappen just cut straight through both of them. He doesn't waste too
[42:01.160 -> 42:04.700] much time with him at all. And if you want to see again, if you want to see a detailed
[42:04.700 -> 42:07.120] breakdown of what that race looks like with
[42:07.120 -> 42:11.240] telemetry and like arrows and text pointing at stuff and explaining what it is, check
[42:11.240 -> 42:17.880] out buymeacoffee.com slash break. I've got a couple underrated drives from the race.
[42:17.880 -> 42:27.520] And then stroll. P19 to P5. Yeah, huge start avoiding all the mess. And he was on a similar strategy
[42:27.520 -> 42:33.840] as Sainz and Perez. So Sainz obviously wasn't able to make the Perez strat work as well,
[42:33.840 -> 42:38.400] or the same sequence of stops, early stop and then splitting the race on hards. That
[42:38.400 -> 42:47.240] was awesome. The second one, Esteban Ocon, P16 to P4. Similar hard one-stop strategy, but they were on the full,
[42:47.260 -> 42:52.640] like commit to a one-stop, run the medium, run it until it's run to the ground,
[42:52.760 -> 42:54.520] pit and go onto a hard.
[42:54.560 -> 42:54.760] Yeah.
[42:55.120 -> 42:55.520] But they-
[42:55.520 -> 43:00.280] Ocon's strong recovery drive after being terrorized by Max Verstappen in qualifying.
[43:01.000 -> 43:04.400] Yeah, he was fired up, but holy crap.
[43:08.180 -> 43:11.400] Yeah, he was fired up, but holy crap, the amount of deg that the Alpines ran into was probably the highest that anybody saw.
[43:11.400 -> 43:15.280] Because they ran those tires probably four or five laps where they're bleeding so much
[43:15.280 -> 43:21.480] lap time just so they can do a comfortable 30 lap stint on that.
[43:21.480 -> 43:25.400] Now, in terms of stops.
[43:26.300 -> 43:26.900] Ocon.
[43:27.920 -> 43:29.540] They were very similar. Gasly stopped a little bit earlier.
[43:30.120 -> 43:32.440] Gasly eases his hard tire in.
[43:33.020 -> 43:34.980] He goes very easy on the first
[43:34.980 -> 43:36.480] five laps on his second stint.
[43:37.320 -> 43:39.420] Ocon just fucking hammers that thing.
[43:39.760 -> 43:42.320] I guess and guess who runs into
[43:42.560 -> 43:44.620] shitloads of dag at the end of this race.
[43:47.200 -> 43:49.040] Oh, who runs into shitloads of dag at the end of this race? Oh, who runs into a loaded
[43:49.040 -> 43:51.080] egg at the end of the race?
[43:51.080 -> 43:53.400] Gasly baby those hard tires on the way
[43:53.400 -> 43:55.960] in did a couple more laps onto them,
[43:55.960 -> 43:58.400] but I mean Gasly is bleeding lap time
[43:58.400 -> 44:01.000] for the last probably 12 laps of the
[44:01.000 -> 44:03.040] race and the tire age difference
[44:03.040 -> 44:04.520] between them was only.
[44:04.520 -> 44:05.320] We got 18.
[44:05.320 -> 44:08.400] It was only three laps different.
[44:08.400 -> 44:14.280] So gasly being told, you know, bring in the hards easily and all cons just like now I'm
[44:14.280 -> 44:18.200] gonna hit these things so freaking hard they won't know they won't even know.
[44:18.200 -> 44:20.000] Oh yeah.
[44:20.000 -> 44:23.160] What else we got?
[44:23.160 -> 44:29.680] Signs signs struggle to get past the the the Stroll and Mercedes kind of group there and Sainz just
[44:29.680 -> 44:34.440] was kind of like stuck, couldn't make anything move through.
[44:34.440 -> 44:39.080] And he's sitting in the Merc, ass and train to the end of the race.
[44:39.080 -> 44:40.480] Bummer.
[44:40.480 -> 44:45.680] But Piastri, sure was on his first. What's that?
[44:45.680 -> 44:47.760] Sorry, that was a delayed response.
[44:47.760 -> 44:54.000] In regards to, uh, signs, was it he didn't get a brand, he didn't put a brand new engine
[44:54.000 -> 44:55.000] in, did he?
[44:55.000 -> 44:56.000] Or did he?
[44:56.000 -> 44:58.000] I have no idea.
[44:58.000 -> 45:02.240] I think for the most part, a lot of people say that's like, oh, they've got a new engine.
[45:02.240 -> 45:09.400] They'll have more power. I don't think the current Formula One engines have much power drop
[45:09.400 -> 45:10.900] as a function of their lifespan.
[45:12.500 -> 45:14.300] He probably didn't fit a new new one.
[45:15.300 -> 45:17.500] I wonder if they just put an older one in there.
[45:17.500 -> 45:20.200] So maybe he was a little bit down on straight line speed or something.
[45:20.200 -> 45:20.800] I don't know.
[45:21.700 -> 45:25.760] I think it was just he didn't have that dog in him.
[45:27.880 -> 45:31.280] If you're in the if you're in the chat, there's Willow creative who made these
[45:31.280 -> 45:34.520] awesome jackets. We give you a big plug at the beginning of the episode.
[45:34.920 -> 45:39.520] You go girl. I'll by the way, Dan, what number do you got by the way on your jacket?
[45:40.720 -> 45:43.360] 13 in honor of Pastor Maldonado.
[45:49.320 -> 45:55.600] Nice, I gotta see it that well. I just got P0 because that's how I feel right now.
[45:55.600 -> 45:56.600] But yeah.
[45:56.600 -> 46:01.600] You guys were track stewards at Vegas?
[46:01.600 -> 46:03.800] Will.i.am thank you for the $2 super chat bro.
[46:03.800 -> 46:04.800] I appreciate that.
[46:04.800 -> 46:05.120] I'm not allowed at Vegas. tracks to is it Vegas to to will I am thank you for the $2 super chat bro appreciate that
[46:05.120 -> 46:15.280] now we're just nobody's Vegas I'm banned from Vegas mate are you really yeah I my actual
[46:15.280 -> 46:21.160] yeah I'd be like I should be I've never actually been to Vegas oh fine disclosure but okay
[46:21.160 -> 46:26.680] I'd be like what's his name out of the Hangover film? Yeah, there'd be no control mate.
[46:26.680 -> 46:29.080] You know, you'd find me at the,
[46:29.080 -> 46:31.540] in the fountain outside the Venetian or whatever.
[46:31.540 -> 46:34.100] I'll just be, yeah.
[46:35.080 -> 46:36.320] Oh, hell.
[46:37.200 -> 46:40.120] Someone said in the chat, the wife banned him.
[46:40.120 -> 46:41.360] It's true, it's true.
[46:41.360 -> 46:43.920] It's for my own good, chat, it's for my own good.
[46:43.920 -> 46:45.200] Yeah, exactly. But yeah, Arkon my own good, chat. It's for my own good. Yeah, exactly.
[46:49.280 -> 46:49.640] But, um, yeah, Arkon, great drive, stroll, great drive.
[46:54.200 -> 46:54.920] He asked Dre, he struggled on his first hard stint and he has to pit on lap 17 off a hard.
[46:56.360 -> 46:57.320] And guess what he does?
[46:58.560 -> 47:03.120] He fits another hard tire, which means he is commit to a two stop at that point.
[47:03.680 -> 47:08.320] And considering the timing of it all, he does not get to take advantage
[47:08.320 -> 47:11.040] of that beautiful, beautiful safety car.
[47:11.400 -> 47:16.960] So, you know, it's it's lap 27 ish whenever he pits for the safety car.
[47:17.120 -> 47:19.560] And he basically ends up going out to lap 44
[47:20.240 -> 47:22.560] and then hitting as soon as he's cleared.
[47:22.680 -> 47:30.720] Like people like, oh, why didn't they put him sooner? They didn't pit Piastri sooner because he would have fallen into, I believe, Albon and
[47:30.720 -> 47:32.080] show.
[47:32.080 -> 47:36.880] So he pits late enough so that he clears them and he comes back through and picks off Gasly,
[47:36.880 -> 47:41.480] who's fucking dying a death on those tires.
[47:41.480 -> 47:49.040] But I'm honestly looking at the clean air pace at the point.
[47:49.040 -> 47:54.400] After the second safety car, Piastri is on like a 20 something lap old hard tire and
[47:54.400 -> 47:56.240] he's going quite quickly.
[47:56.240 -> 48:04.200] He's faster than the Alpine of Ocon who finished fourth on an older tire, but he just has to
[48:04.200 -> 48:06.960] stop again. I think realistically, if the
[48:06.960 -> 48:12.560] Mercedes were in clean air, they would have been a bit faster. The Alpine, the Aston's
[48:12.560 -> 48:17.560] probably been a little bit quicker, but Piastri was not that slow. Piastri was third fastest
[48:17.560 -> 48:22.240] team, fourth fastest team pace. And you know, maybe the fourth fastest team was a tie between
[48:22.240 -> 48:27.080] Mercedes and an Aston and them.
[48:27.080 -> 48:28.080] But honestly, they went slow.
[48:28.080 -> 48:34.840] Yeah, post race Toto came out with another one of his phrases that he reckons...
[48:34.840 -> 48:35.840] We're not here to fuck spiders.
[48:35.840 -> 48:36.840] What?
[48:36.840 -> 48:37.840] That's an Australian phrase.
[48:37.840 -> 48:38.840] We're not here to fuck spiders.
[48:38.840 -> 48:39.840] What the fuck is that?
[48:39.840 -> 48:40.840] I have no idea.
[48:40.840 -> 48:41.840] Australian people say it.
[48:41.840 -> 48:42.840] You can't sleep with nine women and have a baby in a month or whatever.
[48:42.840 -> 48:43.840] I don't know.
[48:43.840 -> 48:44.840] I don't know.
[48:44.840 -> 48:45.020] I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I have no idea. Australian people say it.
[48:46.420 -> 48:47.260] You can't sleep.
[48:47.260 -> 48:50.260] You can't sleep with nine women and have a baby in a month or whatever.
[48:50.260 -> 48:52.340] What the fuck was it that, uh, Omar said?
[48:52.580 -> 48:53.220] Do you remember that?
[48:53.220 -> 48:54.060] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[48:54.060 -> 48:55.220] It's it's yeah.
[48:55.420 -> 48:56.500] Oh God.
[48:56.540 -> 48:57.020] That's it.
[48:57.020 -> 48:59.780] We've reached a point in the podcast where it just all falls apart now.
[49:00.300 -> 49:01.380] What was the way to say?
[49:01.700 -> 49:02.320] Uh, sorry.
[49:02.320 -> 49:02.500] Yeah.
[49:02.500 -> 49:05.840] He was like, I think he said like, oh, we could have got one of the cars on the podium.
[49:05.840 -> 49:11.920] How could you rate me that out of 10?
[49:11.920 -> 49:15.520] Mr. Statsman analysis, how viable was it?
[49:15.520 -> 49:18.640] You reckon they could have got that on the podium?
[49:18.640 -> 49:22.080] If there were no other cars on the track.
[49:22.080 -> 49:24.120] I think that's what he meant to say.
[49:24.120 -> 49:26.880] I mean, fair enough.
[49:26.880 -> 49:31.080] That I don't know, looking at maybe they definitely can see better than I can what happened.
[49:31.080 -> 49:35.560] But I mean, that's just one of those like super freaking empty things to say.
[49:35.560 -> 49:36.880] It's like, yeah, we could have been on the podium day.
[49:36.880 -> 49:40.640] It's like, yeah.
[49:40.640 -> 49:43.160] I think their pace was okay.
[49:43.160 -> 49:46.720] But if if my aunt had wheels, she'd be a bicycle.
[49:46.720 -> 49:47.720] Yeah, exactly.
[49:47.720 -> 49:48.720] Dude, awesome.
[49:48.720 -> 49:49.720] Dude, Will.
[49:49.720 -> 49:50.720] I am.
[49:50.720 -> 49:52.600] Thank you for the $5 super chat.
[49:52.600 -> 49:54.720] I appreciate that, man.
[49:54.720 -> 49:55.720] But um, yeah, bro.
[49:55.720 -> 49:56.720] They had unlimited food.
[49:56.720 -> 49:57.720] Yeah, dude.
[49:57.720 -> 49:58.720] I, Vegas.
[49:58.720 -> 50:03.200] I mean, that is a Vegas thing.
[50:03.200 -> 50:08.100] So we're not here to fuck spiders can be used as a reply to an obvious question.
[50:08.700 -> 50:10.800] I've never heard that in my life.
[50:12.800 -> 50:18.600] Here's an example example to do you think we can win the championship player coach?
[50:18.900 -> 50:20.600] Well, I'm not here to fuck spiders.
[50:21.700 -> 50:22.300] There you go.
[50:22.600 -> 50:25.760] That's now a canon event in my head that that's what Toto said in the
[50:25.760 -> 50:26.760] garage.
[50:26.760 -> 50:30.720] Yeah, they were there to be on the podium, but were they going to be on the podium?
[50:30.720 -> 50:37.040] I mean, if the race was completely different and they'd qualified, I don't know.
[50:37.040 -> 50:42.680] George, it's Toto, we are not here to fuck spiders.
[50:42.680 -> 50:46.080] Yeah, Apex Merchant confirms it's an actual saying.
[50:46.080 -> 50:50.200] I know Australian people, it's fine.
[50:50.200 -> 50:53.160] So performance notes from the race.
[50:53.160 -> 50:54.840] Red Bull suffered and grained the medium early.
[50:54.840 -> 50:59.640] The Claire just as a result of the tire destroying Ferrari just sent it possibly.
[50:59.640 -> 51:06.200] Cold tracks, cold smooth track playing to Ferrari's weaknesses possibly or or masking them.
[51:06.200 -> 51:11.960] They sacrificed their entire year for this Vegas race to have the perfect tire operating
[51:11.960 -> 51:12.960] window.
[51:12.960 -> 51:15.920] Yeah, hey, we're going to Vegas this year.
[51:15.920 -> 51:17.480] We are checking.
[51:17.480 -> 51:20.320] Stop inventing, stop inventing.
[51:20.320 -> 51:27.400] Um, that's an interesting one, but also Max, I think, struggle, struggled quite massively
[51:27.400 -> 51:29.560] with with granny on that.
[51:29.560 -> 51:33.880] The Alpines got into super fucking huge tag because they're like, nope, making the one
[51:33.880 -> 51:34.880] stop work.
[51:34.880 -> 51:37.440] Paris had honestly great pace.
[51:37.440 -> 51:41.680] Max was stronger on the final stint, but the declare Paris Verstappen, they were in the
[51:41.680 -> 51:44.040] same gaggle, if you will.
[51:44.040 -> 51:45.200] Verstappen had front wing damage
[51:45.200 -> 51:50.780] from the Russell. And there's some people saying it was a big factor and Max saying
[51:50.780 -> 51:55.420] it wasn't that big of a deal. Christian saying it wasn't that big of a deal. And the people
[51:55.420 -> 52:06.720] that I have talked to that work on front wings suggest that front wing in plates on the current cars are not that important for performance.
[52:06.720 -> 52:09.200] They are there for rules to keep you
[52:09.200 -> 52:12.760] from trying to generate more outwash possibly,
[52:12.760 -> 52:15.520] but front wing end plates are not really,
[52:15.520 -> 52:17.220] that you're not gonna, I mean, yes,
[52:17.220 -> 52:18.840] you probably will have lost a little bit of load,
[52:18.840 -> 52:21.560] but it's like, ah, I lost a click of front wing.
[52:21.560 -> 52:22.800] It'll be fine.
[52:22.800 -> 52:23.680] Yeah.
[52:23.680 -> 52:24.720] Hey, Jimmy, real quick, dude,
[52:24.720 -> 52:28.000] thank you for the $20 Canadian Super Chat man.
[52:28.000 -> 52:30.120] You absolute legend.
[52:30.120 -> 52:31.360] Legend.
[52:31.360 -> 52:35.760] We didn't see anybody do the intermediate tires like the F123 Strat.
[52:35.760 -> 52:37.840] Just throw on some enters for the super grip.
[52:37.840 -> 52:42.400] No, I feel a little bit let down by that.
[52:42.400 -> 52:43.400] They missed out.
[52:43.400 -> 52:44.400] They missed a trick there.
[52:44.400 -> 52:50.740] They did. Piestri's strategy ended up not working out, but he had good pace.
[52:50.740 -> 52:54.620] They went from the worst car on Saturday to third or fourth fastest on Sunday.
[52:54.620 -> 52:59.820] And I really feel like they downplayed their performance on Saturday to be like, we absolutely
[52:59.820 -> 53:00.820] fucked this up.
[53:00.820 -> 53:02.460] Like, oh yeah, our car wasn't going to be that good.
[53:02.460 -> 53:09.120] It's like, no, you guys actually fucked it up. Yeah, I don't. I don't understand unless I've missed something and chronically
[53:09.680 -> 53:14.640] they struggle with tire warm up, but it looks like they just didn't get the prep right.
[53:15.760 -> 53:22.880] Championship standings, hey? Mercedes lead Ferrari by four points, I do believe.
[53:24.080 -> 53:25.840] Yikes. I think they do.
[53:25.840 -> 53:26.240] Yes.
[53:26.240 -> 53:32.800] And going into the final race, we have a tie between, he says as he quickly
[53:32.800 -> 53:34.040] Googles, because he's already bloody.
[53:34.040 -> 53:34.840] Signs in Alonzo.
[53:34.920 -> 53:35.040] Yeah.
[53:35.040 -> 53:35.600] That's what I said.
[53:35.600 -> 53:38.080] Signs in Alonzo for fourth place.
[53:39.280 -> 53:42.460] Um, Norris is only five points behind both of them as well.
[53:42.460 -> 53:46.960] So if Norris has a streak of a race, Norris could steal P4.
[53:46.960 -> 53:47.960] He's currently sitting P6.
[53:47.960 -> 53:48.960] Oofed.
[53:48.960 -> 53:49.960] Coulda, woulda, shoulda.
[53:49.960 -> 53:54.960] He had a good race on...
[53:54.960 -> 53:58.600] That is now where we're at in the season.
[53:58.600 -> 54:02.200] We are having to look further down the table for our battles because everything is pretty
[54:02.200 -> 54:03.200] much decided.
[54:03.200 -> 54:07.840] Yeah, so let's round off the Las Vegas chat.
[54:09.520 -> 54:09.920] The track.
[54:09.920 -> 54:11.120] I'll round it off.
[54:11.120 -> 54:12.160] Right, you know what, mate?
[54:14.000 -> 54:14.800] You do that.
[54:14.800 -> 54:15.120] Yeah.
[54:15.120 -> 54:17.440] The track, the show, rate everything.
[54:18.160 -> 54:19.360] You shut the fuck up, I'm talking.
[54:19.360 -> 54:20.720] No, you shut up.
[54:20.720 -> 54:22.000] Okay, I'll shut up now.
[54:22.000 -> 54:23.280] I'll shut up now, actually.
[54:23.280 -> 54:23.600] Listen.
[54:24.800 -> 54:26.440] Listen. Listen, listen, listen, right.
[54:27.280 -> 54:33.880] I admit I thought this was this, this whole Vegas thing was going to be a fucking
[54:33.880 -> 54:34.760] disaster.
[54:34.880 -> 54:38.840] I thought it was going to be, it was still cringy as hell.
[54:38.840 -> 54:40.360] I'm not going to change my mind on that.
[54:40.400 -> 54:42.480] It was cringy as hell, but it looked good.
[54:43.200 -> 54:45.120] It wasn't that bad of a race.
[54:45.360 -> 54:47.960] You know, I understand its purpose.
[54:48.000 -> 54:49.320] It's one race a year.
[54:52.120 -> 54:52.640] Fine.
[54:53.720 -> 54:55.480] They need to make changes, I think.
[54:55.880 -> 54:57.960] Some slight tweaks and adjustments.
[54:58.440 -> 54:58.760] Yeah.
[54:59.160 -> 55:02.320] And I think this could be actually not a bad street circuit.
[55:02.440 -> 55:05.700] I think we've got we've got overtaking.
[55:05.740 -> 55:06.740] It is possible.
[55:06.740 -> 55:08.680] And the second most overtakes of the year.
[55:09.600 -> 55:09.940] Believe it.
[55:09.940 -> 55:14.080] I mean, cause I mean, cause there's a super long motherfucker straight.
[55:14.080 -> 55:19.140] So if you can't overtake with a DRS powered car on a super long straight circuit,
[55:19.140 -> 55:20.580] we've got some huge issues.
[55:21.360 -> 55:21.720] Yeah.
[55:22.560 -> 55:24.380] Uh, you know, it looked good in the telly.
[55:24.940 -> 55:25.000] Uh, yeah, I dunno good in the telly.
[55:25.000 -> 55:28.680] Yeah, I don't know.
[55:28.680 -> 55:31.640] I mean, fine, whatever.
[55:31.640 -> 55:36.560] Some people are saying, Oh, you know, if Vegas is on the track, what's the point of Monaco?
[55:36.560 -> 55:38.880] I think that's a very different conversation.
[55:38.880 -> 55:41.280] Like looking at it this way, Vegas is new money.
[55:41.280 -> 55:43.200] Monaco is old money.
[55:43.200 -> 55:44.200] They can both coexist.
[55:44.200 -> 55:45.800] And I don't actually like Monaco
[55:45.800 -> 55:48.080] as a race circuit. I think it sucks balls, but...
[55:48.080 -> 55:52.760] I hate Monaco as a race circuit. As an event and as a qualifying track, it should be a
[55:52.760 -> 55:59.040] time trial event or something, honestly, because it's such... the event itself is very special.
[55:59.040 -> 56:08.380] Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Why don't we sack off Miami and propose a new racetrack in the city heart of Milton
[56:08.380 -> 56:09.380] Keynes.
[56:09.380 -> 56:10.380] No, pass.
[56:10.380 -> 56:15.140] Yeah, I think everybody's team delete Miami in here.
[56:15.140 -> 56:19.780] Well, bollocks to you, I'm going to bring back the Stevenage Grand Prix.
[56:19.780 -> 56:22.660] Yeah, exactly, in the fucking Tesco car park.
[56:22.660 -> 56:25.000] Yeah, yeah, it's the traffic like Grand Prix.
[56:26.640 -> 56:29.360] So I've got some concerns.
[56:29.760 -> 56:34.800] I will put my hand up and say I was I was thinking this place was going to be an entire shit show.
[56:35.000 -> 56:41.880] The weekend build up to it qualifying for me because people were on the split run plans.
[56:41.880 -> 56:45.480] It was kind of an anticlimax and it was just kind of like.
[56:46.080 -> 56:47.360] OK.
[56:52.360 -> 56:52.440] Like, I don't know, I was struggling to like the build wasn't there for me,
[56:54.840 -> 56:58.520] I missed it, or maybe I just wasn't paying attention enough or something, but I was streaming it on YouTube, so I think it was there.
[56:59.680 -> 57:00.200] I.
[57:01.280 -> 57:03.720] The race was great, it was really enjoyable to watch,
[57:03.720 -> 57:07.720] there's a lot of chaos, but at the same time we have good races at Baku.
[57:10.000 -> 57:11.400] Back is kind of a shit track.
[57:13.520 -> 57:14.800] It makes good races every now
[57:14.800 -> 57:15.960] and then when you have safety cars.
[57:16.960 -> 57:20.240] Right, so your argument is overtaking
[57:20.240 -> 57:21.960] doesn't necessarily make a good race.
[57:22.760 -> 57:23.640] No, it doesn't.
[57:23.640 -> 57:27.440] The narrative, the the tension, the drama, the fact that we had a battle for
[57:27.440 -> 57:32.400] the podium against a Red Bull and Leclerc, that made this race, honestly, for me. We
[57:32.400 -> 57:39.360] know these unsung drives are our Aucon, our Lance Stroll. We heard nothing about that.
[57:39.360 -> 57:52.560] People were just excited that it was a Ferrari racing a Red Bull. And honestly, if we had more Ferraris racing more Red Bulls, I'd be much happier. But just because the 2023 Las Vegas Grand Prix was a good race
[57:52.560 -> 57:59.320] doesn't mean. Definitively that Las Vegas is a good racetrack. I think it's quite soulless.
[57:59.320 -> 58:02.840] I think it has a lot of benefits over some of the other street circuits that we go to.
[58:02.840 -> 58:08.860] It wasn't bad. I'm not I'm not I'm not to crap on it. I don't think it was bad. As Ollie Wright
[58:08.860 -> 58:15.620] says in the chat, the out of order grid helped. Yes, the safety cars helped. I liked that
[58:15.620 -> 58:21.380] there was a chase. There was the chase and we focused on it. I enjoyed it.
[58:21.380 -> 58:27.800] Yeah. Someone in the chat says the post race top three drive to Bellagio for interviews and
[58:27.800 -> 58:30.480] then back taking five minutes each way was stupid AF.
[58:30.480 -> 58:31.480] Yes, I agree.
[58:31.480 -> 58:32.480] That was weird.
[58:32.480 -> 58:34.920] It just got into the back of an Uber.
[58:34.920 -> 58:37.200] I was just like, what is going on?
[58:37.200 -> 58:38.200] What kind of Ubers are you riding?
[58:38.200 -> 58:40.720] Are you riding around in Rolls Royce Ubers?
[58:40.720 -> 58:42.680] Yeah, well, Red Bull budget cap.
[58:42.680 -> 58:45.200] Talk to me all about that, mate.
[58:45.200 -> 58:46.200] It was me.
[58:46.200 -> 58:47.200] It's it, mate.
[58:47.200 -> 58:48.200] It was me.
[58:48.200 -> 58:51.520] Yeah, I get it.
[58:51.520 -> 58:57.320] I thought it was not bad, but don't go out there and say Las Vegas is an amazing racetrack.
[58:57.320 -> 58:58.320] But anyway.
[58:58.320 -> 59:04.400] No, I'm going to say Las Vegas is an amazing racetrack because I want to get an invite
[59:04.400 -> 59:05.120] out there next year.
[59:05.760 -> 59:08.800] Okay. I mean, it was a pretty good street circuit. I'll give you that.
[59:09.360 -> 59:10.320] I'll give you that.
[59:10.320 -> 59:14.240] We're going to big it up. We'll edit out all the bits of this podcast, 90% of it where we
[59:14.240 -> 59:16.640] slagged it off. Yeah. It's like, yeah, absolutely.
[59:16.640 -> 59:23.360] Send it to Stefano. And then we'll say, listen, Stefano, we absolutely love Vegas. Could you send
[59:23.360 -> 59:26.240] us out there next year? And then when we get out there, weano, we absolutely love Vegas. Could you send us out there next year?
[59:29.600 -> 59:29.960] Then when we get out there, we'll do like the hangover part four or whatever.
[59:33.640 -> 59:36.040] You know, that being said though, I do really love the track. So you can wake up out of your hotel and walk to the circus.
[59:36.040 -> 59:37.360] Singapore was like that.
[59:37.480 -> 59:40.980] Um, I'm sure Miami is like that for, or is Miami is kind of in a car park.
[59:40.980 -> 59:41.400] Isn't it?
[59:42.440 -> 59:44.440] It's the stadium, the stadium and the car.
[59:44.440 -> 59:44.960] Ah, that's right.
[59:45.440 -> 59:49.120] So, I mean, yeah, I don't think anybody's, anyway, there's, there's a place,
[59:49.240 -> 59:53.680] there's a place for Vegas, I think, but it does, I'm kind of wondering,
[59:55.000 -> 01:00:00.120] Miami, like, how are you going to like, yeah, let's, let's do this.
[01:00:00.120 -> 01:00:01.360] We'll go out there next year.
[01:00:02.320 -> 01:00:06.040] And my wife's watching, so this will cause an issue.
[01:00:06.040 -> 01:00:11.720] But, you know, why don't we get married in the pit lane at Vegas, Blake?
[01:00:13.600 -> 01:00:14.100] Not all right, mate.
[01:00:14.100 -> 01:00:15.680] Is that allowed in the state of Nevada?
[01:00:15.720 -> 01:00:16.800] Are we allowed to do that?
[01:00:17.400 -> 01:00:18.600] No, I don't know what the rules are.
[01:00:18.800 -> 01:00:21.080] They'll throw quarters at you from the slot machines.
[01:00:22.480 -> 01:00:25.800] I'll be like, yes, this is my podcast host and life partner.
[01:00:30.200 -> 01:00:30.720] Let's get on it.
[01:00:31.160 -> 01:00:32.560] You know what time it is, I think.
[01:00:32.680 -> 01:00:33.600] Oh, I hit the button.
[01:00:44.920 -> 01:00:45.000] Fraud watch is whereud Watch. Fraud Watch. Fraud Watch. Fraud Watch.
[01:00:45.000 -> 01:00:49.080] Fraud Watch is where we put somebody on blast.
[01:00:49.080 -> 01:00:52.400] We're going to absolutely roast them.
[01:00:52.400 -> 01:00:58.680] We've got lots of repeat offenders, the FIA, Ferrari have been on there quite a bit.
[01:00:58.680 -> 01:01:00.440] DeVries was on there a lot before.
[01:01:00.440 -> 01:01:14.000] We'll have a tally at this at the end of the season, but who's your fraud watch for Las Vegas?
[01:01:14.000 -> 01:01:20.040] Liberty Media or F1 or whoever's responsible for making all the fans hang around until
[01:01:20.040 -> 01:01:25.800] 10 minutes before FP2 and then saying, oh, actually, sorry, you can't watch this by and
[01:01:25.800 -> 01:01:28.520] then giving them a fucking gift voucher.
[01:01:28.520 -> 01:01:30.480] Like, well, I'm sorry for your trouble.
[01:01:30.480 -> 01:01:31.480] Here's a gift voucher.
[01:01:31.480 -> 01:01:33.320] We look forward to seeing you next year.
[01:01:33.320 -> 01:01:35.960] Yeah, shove it up your ass.
[01:01:35.960 -> 01:01:36.960] Yeah.
[01:01:36.960 -> 01:01:40.840] You guys get absolutely effed in the A.
[01:01:40.840 -> 01:01:42.720] Shitters honestly.
[01:01:42.720 -> 01:01:45.360] I was going to do.
[01:01:45.360 -> 01:01:48.360] If I F1 from the media from you,
[01:01:48.360 -> 01:01:50.400] I didn't look, but I'm going to
[01:01:50.400 -> 01:01:51.280] steal Willows answer.
[01:01:51.280 -> 01:01:52.480] I'm going to go with
[01:01:52.480 -> 01:01:53.400] McLaren and qualifying.
[01:01:55.280 -> 01:01:57.800] Yeah. I was sad to see that
[01:01:57.800 -> 01:01:59.720] cause I want God, I want to
[01:01:59.720 -> 01:02:01.240] see them fucking winning man.
[01:02:01.240 -> 01:02:03.480] I don't know like.
[01:02:03.480 -> 01:02:07.960] I don't know Lando and Oscar fucking dope.
[01:02:07.960 -> 01:02:16.200] I don't know. I think yeah, Formula One has to be on Front Watch, but what about the next
[01:02:16.200 -> 01:02:19.680] bit where we we're going to take the negativity way and we're gonna.
[01:02:19.680 -> 01:02:25.760] Oh, you think he's a good boy? I am. I'm a good boy. Are you a good boy?
[01:02:25.760 -> 01:02:26.760] Oh, for God's sake.
[01:02:26.760 -> 01:02:30.400] I've just seen who you've put and you've stolen it from me.
[01:02:30.400 -> 01:02:31.400] That's all right.
[01:02:31.400 -> 01:02:32.400] No, no, no.
[01:02:32.400 -> 01:02:33.960] This means I have to do it.
[01:02:33.960 -> 01:02:39.560] You know, if one has an agenda against a certain driver, right?
[01:02:39.560 -> 01:02:40.560] This is mine.
[01:02:40.560 -> 01:02:41.560] You can't take this one.
[01:02:41.560 -> 01:02:42.560] I'm not taking it.
[01:02:42.560 -> 01:02:43.560] I'm not taking it from you.
[01:02:43.560 -> 01:02:44.560] Okay.
[01:02:44.560 -> 01:02:48.680] Okay. Everyone has an agenda for no reason against a certain driver, right?
[01:02:50.040 -> 01:02:53.800] I'm still angry at Esteban Ocon for crashing into Max in Brazil.
[01:02:57.280 -> 01:03:00.240] It's been so many years and I'm still not over it.
[01:03:01.040 -> 01:03:04.560] Hey, he was fully in the right to unlap himself, but I don't give a shit.
[01:03:04.560 -> 01:03:07.440] I'm still really fucking angry about it. Hey, he was fully in the right to unlap himself, but I don't give a shit. I'm still really fucking angry about it.
[01:03:07.440 -> 01:03:17.200] So, so, uh, so it pains me chat listeners. This really pains me to say that my good boy
[01:03:17.200 -> 01:03:23.200] for this weekend was Esteban Ocon.
[01:03:23.200 -> 01:03:28.240] He pisses me off sometimes, but maybe it's maybe it's because he does.
[01:03:28.240 -> 01:03:33.380] Like I know I try not to be biased, but you can't like I can't remove my biases.
[01:03:33.380 -> 01:03:37.240] It's not possible to fucking pluck them out of my head, but but he just fucking winds
[01:03:37.240 -> 01:03:38.240] me up on the track.
[01:03:38.240 -> 01:03:43.720] Everybody that worked with him at Aston or at Force India said he was the loveliest dude.
[01:03:43.720 -> 01:03:46.320] Nobody enjoyed working with Fairline when he was testing and then
[01:03:46.320 -> 01:03:51.560] and Esty Besty comes along and he's an absolute freaking lad then.
[01:03:52.960 -> 01:03:54.760] But he just pisses me off all the time now.
[01:03:56.440 -> 01:03:59.200] It's like, you know, you have a grudge against people for no reason.
[01:03:59.200 -> 01:04:01.240] For something that happened like eight years ago.
[01:04:01.720 -> 01:04:03.640] Yeah, that's me and Ocon.
[01:04:03.640 -> 01:04:04.080] Yeah.
[01:04:05.760 -> 01:04:07.440] Fucking hell.
[01:04:14.480 -> 01:04:20.080] My my good boy that we gives Lance straw. He didn't have a great qualifying race. Start keeps his nose clean and he gets the most out of that. Honestly, good drive. And he last season,
[01:04:20.800 -> 01:04:26.040] last season he was a demon on race starts and restarts. He genuinely was a demon on race starts and restarts.
[01:04:26.040 -> 01:04:32.720] This season, not so much, but yeah, that's it.
[01:04:32.720 -> 01:04:35.880] That's my engine mode good boy.
[01:04:35.880 -> 01:04:36.880] We've got-
[01:04:36.880 -> 01:04:40.000] I feel some big character growth from me and you.
[01:04:40.000 -> 01:04:41.000] That was-
[01:04:41.000 -> 01:04:42.000] I'm still an asshole.
[01:04:42.000 -> 01:04:43.000] Yeah, it's true.
[01:04:43.000 -> 01:04:45.000] I'll still hold a grudge against him.
[01:04:45.000 -> 01:04:50.360] It's the brain of Condor.
[01:04:50.360 -> 01:04:53.760] The good boy awards go into the drivers the least number of stands this week.
[01:04:53.760 -> 01:04:56.840] Which driver do you think has the least number of stands?
[01:04:56.840 -> 01:04:59.000] Who you asking me?
[01:04:59.000 -> 01:05:00.240] Yeah, who do you think?
[01:05:00.240 -> 01:05:05.080] Mate, I've got more followers than Logan Sargent on Twitter. That's a stat. That's a stat.
[01:05:05.080 -> 01:05:06.080] Oh my God, no way.
[01:05:06.080 -> 01:05:15.880] Nobody gives a fuck though, seriously.
[01:05:15.880 -> 01:05:24.160] That being said, right, there was something and I, there's a Danica Patrick was like,
[01:05:24.160 -> 01:05:26.840] you know, Logan's relatively unknown in the US because
[01:05:26.840 -> 01:05:28.780] he didn't come up here.
[01:05:28.780 -> 01:05:31.000] And somebody was like, what the fuck is Danica on about?
[01:05:31.000 -> 01:05:33.720] I'm like, she's spot on.
[01:05:33.720 -> 01:05:36.680] She does have a very good point.
[01:05:36.680 -> 01:05:39.600] He basically was like, hi, my name's Florida man.
[01:05:39.600 -> 01:05:44.000] I'm going to Europe to race some formula cars and I'll see you guys in formula ones later.
[01:05:44.000 -> 01:05:45.840] Like who the fuck is Logan Sargent?
[01:05:45.840 -> 01:05:51.120] Yeah, he didn't, he didn't do any of the American series.
[01:05:51.120 -> 01:05:57.760] Like you say, he just went to Europe and yeah, so, you know, she does talk a lot of shit.
[01:05:57.760 -> 01:06:04.560] Danica, and she's, she is, she and me and her have been drinking from the same cough
[01:06:04.560 -> 01:06:06.140] medicine bottle, I
[01:06:06.140 -> 01:06:08.520] think, with some of the conspiracy theories she's got.
[01:06:09.040 -> 01:06:13.260] Did you see the clip this weekend of her saying something and Jensen just
[01:06:13.260 -> 01:06:17.360] losing, he's like blink twice if you need help vibes.
[01:06:17.600 -> 01:06:18.000] Yeah.
[01:06:18.160 -> 01:06:19.680] Say save our boy Jensen.
[01:06:20.360 -> 01:06:22.120] He's he's he is a national treasure.
[01:06:22.120 -> 01:06:23.560] We need, we do need to take care of him.
[01:06:23.920 -> 01:06:25.580] Um, I think it's time for the next segment. We need we do need to take care of him. I think it's time for
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[01:07:05.920 -> 01:07:07.960] random fandom for next week.
[01:07:09.440 -> 01:07:09.800] Yeah.
[01:07:10.240 -> 01:07:15.880] But the last, uh, last one of the season, who wants to go first?
[01:07:15.880 -> 01:07:16.680] You or me?
[01:07:17.040 -> 01:07:17.800] Spin it for me.
[01:07:18.040 -> 01:07:18.360] Oof.
[01:07:18.600 -> 01:07:19.360] You can go first.
[01:07:19.360 -> 01:07:20.160] We'll spin it for you.
[01:07:21.880 -> 01:07:22.600] Give me Ferrari.
[01:07:23.160 -> 01:07:24.040] Oh, nah, mate.
[01:07:24.080 -> 01:07:25.000] Oh, Williams. Okay. W.
[01:07:25.000 -> 01:07:26.000] Yeah.
[01:07:26.000 -> 01:07:27.000] Yep, I'll go with Williams.
[01:07:27.000 -> 01:07:28.000] I'm happy for that.
[01:07:28.000 -> 01:07:29.000] Give it a little spin for me.
[01:07:29.000 -> 01:07:30.000] Controversial.
[01:07:30.000 -> 01:07:31.000] Alpha Tauri.
[01:07:31.000 -> 01:07:32.000] You've had them a couple of times, haven't you?
[01:07:32.000 -> 01:07:33.000] I think so, yeah.
[01:07:33.000 -> 01:07:34.000] Why don't we do...
[01:07:34.000 -> 01:07:35.000] The team that's going to be the most controversial, I think, is the team that's going to be the
[01:07:35.000 -> 01:07:36.000] most controversial.
[01:07:36.000 -> 01:07:37.000] I think it's going to be the team that's going to be the most controversial.
[01:07:37.000 -> 01:07:38.000] I think it's going to be the team that's going to be the most controversial.
[01:07:38.000 -> 01:07:39.000] I think it's going to be the team that's going to be the most controversial.
[01:07:39.000 -> 01:07:40.000] I think it's going to be the team that's going to be the most controversial.
[01:07:40.000 -> 01:07:41.000] I think it's going to be the team that's going to be the most controversial.
[01:07:41.000 -> 01:07:42.000] I think it's going to be the team that's going to be the most controversial.
[01:07:42.000 -> 01:07:43.000] I think it's going to be the team that's going to be the most controversial.
[01:07:43.000 -> 01:07:44.000] I think it's going to be the team that's going to be the most controversial.
[01:07:44.000 -> 01:07:45.040] I think it's going to be the team that's going to be the most controversial. I think it's going to be the team that's going to be the most controversial. I think it's going to be the team that's going to be the most controversial. I think it's going to be the team that's going to be the most controversial. I think it's going to be the team that's going to be the most controversial. Alpha Tauri.
[01:07:46.400 -> 01:07:46.640] You've had them a couple of times, haven't you?
[01:07:47.640 -> 01:07:48.440] I think so, yeah.
[01:07:52.080 -> 01:07:53.320] Why don't we do a team that's going to be named Minardi next year?
[01:07:58.480 -> 01:07:58.720] It's been rumored that it's going to be called like racing bulls, I think is what's on Twitter.
[01:08:00.360 -> 01:08:01.720] It's such a garbage like.
[01:08:03.160 -> 01:08:03.480] Zero effort went into that.
[01:08:06.040 -> 01:08:15.080] It's better than Scooter Ricci Alpha Alpha Tortellini though, isn't it? Just fucking make a Minardi again. Bring it back. Bring it back.
[01:08:15.080 -> 01:08:23.400] Um, right, let's like, let's talk like I think we need to do a Fraud Watch season recap and
[01:08:23.400 -> 01:08:26.200] an Engine Mode Good Boy season recap as well.
[01:08:26.200 -> 01:08:27.120] Yeah, and we gotta do our
[01:08:27.120 -> 01:08:28.600] end of season awards as well.
[01:08:29.800 -> 01:08:31.280] Who how do those work again?
[01:08:32.000 -> 01:08:33.920] I do a Google form and people vote on it.
[01:08:34.520 -> 01:08:35.200] Oh yeah.
[01:08:35.880 -> 01:08:38.320] I will prepare that and put that in next.
[01:08:38.520 -> 01:08:40.240] He every Davi show notes.
[01:08:40.760 -> 01:08:41.560] Oh hell yeah.
[01:08:41.840 -> 01:08:43.720] You have to get your tuxedo out again.
[01:08:44.920 -> 01:08:47.000] Oh shit, yeah dude, that didn't fit last year.
[01:08:47.000 -> 01:08:48.000] That was really uncomfortable.
[01:08:48.000 -> 01:08:52.000] No, my silver sequined jacket didn't fit at all.
[01:08:52.000 -> 01:08:56.000] Like, that is not going to fit this year either.
[01:08:56.000 -> 01:08:59.000] Oh my God.
[01:08:59.000 -> 01:09:02.000] Oh, that's amazing.
[01:09:02.000 -> 01:09:07.120] But, um, yeah, I'm looking forward to coming back. We'll do a Abu Dhabi
[01:09:07.120 -> 01:09:13.520] recap episode, maybe have a week off, do our awards, end of season awards show. And you know
[01:09:13.520 -> 01:09:18.960] what, you guys, I hope you guys had an awesome time enjoying the podcast. Be sure to join us on
[01:09:18.960 -> 01:09:24.400] YouTube next time we post it live. You'll see us posting usually on Twitter and Instagram. We've
[01:09:24.400 -> 01:09:26.720] been a little bit lax with that, but hey, hey.
[01:09:26.720 -> 01:09:27.720] Well,
[01:09:27.720 -> 01:09:29.800] That's because I forgot the Instagram login.
[01:09:29.800 -> 01:09:30.800] Oh yeah.
[01:09:30.800 -> 01:09:33.360] And I can't be asked to do my social media.
[01:09:33.360 -> 01:09:34.760] I'm fighting people on Twitter today.
[01:09:34.760 -> 01:09:35.760] Good.
[01:09:35.760 -> 01:09:39.240] We're selling it and we're doing really well here.
[01:09:39.240 -> 01:09:48.000] And do be sure if you wanted to dig more into the data behind Formula One, check out buymeacoffee.com front slash break. That's B R R R A K E.
[01:09:48.000 -> 01:09:52.000] And we will see you guys there. But you guys have a good week.
[01:09:52.000 -> 01:09:56.000] I am not going to be doing qualifying watch along on break F1 on YouTube
[01:09:56.000 -> 01:10:00.000] this weekend. I'll just be doing the race. I need a break. I'm going to go drink
[01:10:00.000 -> 01:10:04.000] some nice beers in London with my girlfriend and we'll be back for Sunday.
[01:10:04.000 -> 01:10:08.880] And then probably Monday or Tuesday next week, we'll be back with episode 44, the review
[01:10:08.880 -> 01:10:11.680] of the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix.
[01:10:11.680 -> 01:10:15.160] So I supported my local butcher the other day.
[01:10:15.160 -> 01:10:18.360] I got some nice pork ribs and I smoked them on my Traeger.
[01:10:18.360 -> 01:10:23.240] You guys make sure support your local butcher, stay out of trouble.
[01:10:23.240 -> 01:10:24.240] And yeah.
[01:10:24.240 -> 01:10:25.760] You got anything else to say?
[01:10:26.040 -> 01:10:31.880] Um, measure your cold and flu medicine.
[01:10:33.160 -> 01:10:34.320] Don't just eyeball it.
[01:10:34.600 -> 01:10:37.480] Cause I now have to go lay down in a dark room.
[01:10:38.240 -> 01:10:40.640] He's like, is that one or two bottles I'm supposed to have?
[01:10:41.520 -> 01:10:44.760] There's been several instances throughout this podcast where I've forgotten where I am.
[01:10:44.560 -> 01:10:48.960] to have. There's been several instances throughout this podcast where I've forgotten where I am.
[01:10:49.840 -> None] Bye!