Ep36 - Dutch GP

The boys celebrate one whole year of podcasts while looking back at the Dutch GP and a look forward to Monza!

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**Race Weekend Review**

* **Qualifying:**
* Wet qualifying session with intermediate tires.
* Liam Lawson eliminated in Q1, but showed promise for his second session in the car.
* Notable eliminations in Q1 included Bottas, Magnussen, Ocon, and Zhou.
* Lewis Hamilton surprisingly knocked out in Q2, struggling to find grip and peak tire performance.

* **Race:**
* Verstappen dominates from pole position, leading every lap.
* Leclerc and Sainz finish 2nd and 3rd, respectively, for Ferrari.
* Russell recovers from a poor start to finish 4th for Mercedes.
* Alonso drives a strong race to finish 5th for Alpine.
* Norris and Ricciardo finish 7th and 9th, respectively, for McLaren.
* Tsunoda scores points for AlphaTauri with an 8th-place finish.
* Vettel and Stroll round out the top 10 for Aston Martin.

**Random Fandom Reports**

* **McLaren:**
* Blake: Disappointed with the team's performance, particularly Lando Norris's race.
* Dan: Pleased with Ricciardo's performance before his retirement, but concerned about the team's overall pace.

* **Aston Martin:**
* Blake: Encouraged by the team's progress, especially Fernando Alonso's strong drive.
* Dan: Mixed feelings, with Vettel showing good pace but Stroll struggling.

**Monza Preview**

* Potential for another exciting race with DRS zones and high-speed straights.
* Red Bull and Ferrari expected to be strong again.
* Mercedes hoping to bounce back from a disappointing Dutch Grand Prix.
* McLaren and Aston Martin aiming to continue their recent momentum.

**Wrap-Up**

* Overall, an entertaining race with plenty of action and drama.
* Verstappen continues to extend his championship lead.
* Several teams show signs of progress, while others struggle.
* Excitement building for the upcoming Italian Grand Prix at Monza. **Summary of the Dutch Grand Prix and a Look Ahead to Monza**

- The podcast begins with the hosts celebrating one year of podcasting and reflecting on the Dutch Grand Prix.
- The race was held in wet conditions, leading to several overtakes and position changes.
- Max Verstappen won the race, with Fernando Alonso finishing second and Pierre Gasly taking the final podium spot.
- Sergio Perez finished fourth but was penalized for a pit lane speeding violation, dropping him to fifth.
- Alex Albon had a strong race for Williams, finishing eighth after a long stint on the soft tires.
- Logan Sargeant retired from the race due to a hydraulics failure.
- The hosts discuss the performance of the different teams, with Red Bull, Aston Martin, and Alpine showing strong pace.
- Ferrari struggled in the race, with Carlos Sainz Jr. finishing outside the points.
- The hosts preview the upcoming Italian Grand Prix at Monza, where they expect Ferrari to be more competitive.

**Key Insights and Perspectives:**

- The hosts emphasize the importance of strategy and tire management in wet races, as seen in the Dutch Grand Prix.
- They also highlight the impressive performance of Pierre Gasly, who drove a strong race to finish on the podium.
- The hosts discuss the potential impact of the new floor that Aston Martin introduced at Zandvoort, which seemed to improve their straight-line speed but compromised their high-speed cornering performance.
- They also mention a technical directive that was issued to Aston Martin regarding their front wing, suggesting that the team may have found a way to circumvent the regulations.
- The hosts express their belief that Ferrari could be more competitive at the Italian Grand Prix at Monza, given their strong performance on high-speed tracks in the past.

**Controversies and Particularly Insightful Moments:**

- The hosts briefly mention the controversy surrounding Sergio Perez's pit stop, with some suggesting that Red Bull may have sabotaged his race. However, they ultimately conclude that it was likely a miscommunication or a mistake in strategy.
- They also discuss the incident involving Kevin Magnussen, who was penalized for falling more than 10 car lengths behind the safety car. The hosts express their surprise at this penalty, as it is not something that is typically seen in Formula One.

**Overall Message and Takeaway:**

- The overall message of the podcast is that the Dutch Grand Prix was an exciting and unpredictable race, with several teams showing strong performance.
- The hosts also provide insights into the strategies and tactics used by the teams, as well as the potential impact of technical developments on the outcome of the race.
- The podcast concludes with a look ahead to the Italian Grand Prix at Monza, where the hosts expect Ferrari to be more competitive and challenge for the win. **Summary of the Podcast Episode Transcript:**

**Introduction:**

- The hosts, Dan and Blake, celebrate one year of their podcast and discuss the Dutch Grand Prix and look forward to the upcoming race at Monza.

**Main Discussion:**

**Dutch Grand Prix Review:**

- Mercedes showed signs of improvement, particularly in the final stint of the race, but they still face fundamental struggles.
- The midfield was tight, making overtaking difficult.
- Mercedes' strategy was criticized for being reactive rather than proactive, leading to lost opportunities.

**Aston Martin and McLaren Report Cards:**

- Aston Martin: Alonso had a strong race and finished P2, while Stroll struggled. The team's strategy was praised, and they are considered to be in contention for a Constructors' Championship.
- McLaren: Lando Norris qualified P2 but had a disappointing race due to strategy calls. Oscar Piastri had a solid recovery drive to finish in the points. The team's overall performance was hindered by operational issues.

**Fraud Watch:**

- The F1 social media and graphics team are nominated for Fraud Watch for incorrectly stating the record for the longest time between first and last career podiums.
- Mercedes and McLaren's pit walls are also nominated for their questionable strategy calls during the race.

**Good Boy Award:**

- Gasly receives the Good Boy Award for his impressive performance and podium finish.
- Lawson is also mentioned for his solid debut race.

**Monza Preview:**

- The alternative tire allocation for Monza is making a return, which could lead to strategic chaos.
- Mercedes is expected to be strong at Monza due to their car's characteristics.
- Red Bull and Ferrari are also contenders for the win.

**Conclusion:**

- The hosts wrap up the episode by thanking their listeners and expressing their excitement for the upcoming Monza race. # Engine Breaking: One Year Anniversary Special

## Introduction

- The podcast celebrates its one-year anniversary while reflecting on the Dutch Grand Prix and looking forward to the upcoming Monza Grand Prix.


## Monza Curse:

- The podcast highlights a peculiar trend in recent years, where the previous year's winner of the Monza Grand Prix has faced a DNF (Did Not Finish) in the subsequent race.


- The hosts speculate on whether this "Monza curse" will continue this year, especially considering Max Verstappen's victory in Monza last year.


## Random Fandom:

- The hosts engage in a random team selection for the upcoming Monza Grand Prix, assigning themselves teams to analyze and report on in the next episode.


- Dan selects Ferrari, while Elliot is assigned Alfa Romeo.


## Conclusion:

- The hosts express their gratitude for a successful year of podcasting and look forward to continuing the journey, despite their occasional technical difficulties.


- They invite listeners to join them for a potential live race watch along on YouTube during the Monza Grand Prix.


- The hosts encourage listeners to support local butchers and enjoy the Bavarian beers during the race weekend.

[00:00.000 -> 00:07.720] You're listening to the most fraudulent f1 podcast with Dan aka engine mode 11.
[00:07.720 -> 00:13.900] I secretly moonlight as hell with Marco race weekends and Blake aka brake echo chambers
[00:13.900 -> 00:32.760] of farts and idiots on Twitter after races. It's the engine breaking f1 podcast. Hello, welcome to Origin Breaking, episode 36.
[00:32.760 -> 00:34.380] Our one year anniversary.
[00:34.380 -> 00:37.480] We started this podcast a year ago, Blake, didn't we?
[00:37.480 -> 00:38.480] Wow.
[00:38.480 -> 00:39.680] Congratulations to us.
[00:39.680 -> 00:40.680] Yeah.
[00:40.680 -> 00:41.680] We've done it.
[00:41.680 -> 00:42.680] Full circle.
[00:42.680 -> 00:44.980] We've made it around the moon once.
[00:44.980 -> 00:46.840] Just enough time for you guys to hear our
[00:47.020 -> 00:51.080] terrible takes that completely crush all of your biases, because we won't let you
[00:51.080 -> 00:52.620] get away with any trash like that.
[00:52.920 -> 00:54.880] So welcome to the podcast.
[00:54.880 -> 00:55.780] How's everybody doing tonight?
[00:55.960 -> 00:56.600] I hope you're well.
[00:56.900 -> 00:59.000] Uh, Dan, you want to introduce yourself?
[00:59.000 -> 00:59.520] How are we doing?
[00:59.600 -> 00:59.840] Yeah.
[00:59.840 -> 01:00.240] Hello.
[01:00.360 -> 01:01.320] I'm Dan engine mode.
[01:01.320 -> 01:01.680] 11.
[01:02.280 -> 01:04.040] Uh, frequently on Twitter, causing.
[01:04.760 -> 01:07.560] Uh, issues and, uh and bitching about my life,
[01:07.560 -> 01:08.560] basically.
[01:08.560 -> 01:11.520] Have you caused any massive issues on Twitter lately?
[01:11.520 -> 01:14.000] Because obviously since you don't work for Red Bull anymore, you haven't been called
[01:14.000 -> 01:20.080] into Christian's office to be like, Dan, we know that you didn't do anything wrong, but
[01:20.080 -> 01:21.720] you can't do that thing that's not wrong.
[01:21.720 -> 01:26.160] I posted something semi-controvers semi controversial last night and it was in
[01:26.160 -> 01:29.440] regards to Alex Alvin, if he ever was offered the Red Bull seat.
[01:29.900 -> 01:33.680] And, uh, I said, if I was Alex, I wouldn't go back to Red Bull anyway.
[01:35.080 -> 01:38.880] And so some guy was like, well, you're milking being an ex F1 employee.
[01:38.880 -> 01:41.960] I was like, well, yeah, mate, because being an ex Uber delivery driver doesn't
[01:41.960 -> 01:43.040] quite have the same ring to it.
[01:43.080 -> 01:45.600] So yeah, I am going to to I am going to thank you.
[01:46.000 -> 01:47.040] Yeah, exactly. It's like, why?
[01:47.040 -> 01:50.400] So why should I listen to your takes on F1?
[01:50.840 -> 01:52.360] Oh, no one should.
[01:52.360 -> 01:54.200] Yeah, exactly. Well, that's true.
[01:54.200 -> 01:56.040] But you know what you guys are here.
[01:56.040 -> 01:58.480] And for anybody listening, my name is Blake, a break
[01:58.880 -> 02:02.760] formula one content creator, former F1 engineer now just being completely
[02:02.760 -> 02:05.440] fraudulent, making a living, being an absolute
[02:05.440 -> 02:10.720] dirtbag. But that's not true. But that's not true. So together, we are the Engine Breaking Podcast.
[02:10.720 -> 02:15.040] Thank you guys for one year of support. And if anybody's been here since the first day,
[02:15.040 -> 02:23.360] I feel really sorry for you guys. Honestly. It's never difficult. Just talk to somebody,
[02:23.360 -> 02:26.000] see how everybody's doing. Make sure, just check in.
[02:26.000 -> 02:27.560] Tell your parents, hi.
[02:27.560 -> 02:28.400] See how it's going.
[02:28.400 -> 02:28.900] But.
[02:28.900 -> 02:30.680] A year of the podcast, it's actually
[02:30.680 -> 02:34.000] been easier than I think.
[02:34.000 -> 02:36.520] It's, I suppose that was reflected
[02:36.520 -> 02:38.680] in our absolutely shocking production values
[02:38.680 -> 02:40.840] of where every week is a fucking shit show.
[02:40.840 -> 02:44.040] But still, it's not been as bad as I thought it would be.
[02:44.040 -> 02:48.240] No, I mean, it's one of those one of those things like you once you figure everything out, you
[02:48.240 -> 02:52.800] just it just gets a little bit easier every time you go live and you get you get into
[02:52.800 -> 02:59.000] a bit of a groove. So you know what? I've been really enjoying it. So you guys, you
[02:59.000 -> 03:05.100] guys. Also, yeah, real quick. Also, this is our second live episode on YouTube. Uh, so yeah.
[03:09.000 -> 03:15.900] So why don't we, why don't we jump straight into it for everybody that's new and waiting for us to get to the point? Because in case you guys don't know, I have crippling ADHD, so it's kind of, yeah, we could be all over the shop.
[03:16.100 -> 03:20.300] Blake's crippling ADHD and my dulcet dad tones.
[03:20.500 -> 03:22.000] It's a killer combo.
[03:24.100 -> 03:27.680] We just do these podcasts. So my voice can calm Blake down basically.
[03:27.680 -> 03:34.120] Yeah exactly I'm a bit fight or flight adrenaline all the time. Let's get into it. Tell the
[03:34.120 -> 03:36.320] beautiful ladies and gentlemen what we've got for them today.
[03:36.320 -> 03:42.040] Yes hello welcome it's the Dutch Grand Prix review episode. We'll have a little talk about
[03:42.040 -> 03:49.520] what's been going on in the F1 news cycle. We'll break down the race weekend, give in all the exclusive highly detailed technical
[03:49.520 -> 03:55.640] analysis that two ex-fired engineers could possibly give you.
[03:55.640 -> 03:59.200] And then we'll talk about, we'll give you our random fandom reports.
[03:59.200 -> 04:03.800] If you don't know what random fandom is, it's where we randomly pick a team to big up for
[04:03.800 -> 04:04.800] the weekend.
[04:04.800 -> 04:05.400] So we'll give you up for the weekend.
[04:07.800 -> 04:10.200] So we'll give you those for the Dutch Grand Prix. I had McLaren, Blake, you had Aston Martin.
[04:10.640 -> 04:11.280] That's correct.
[04:11.280 -> 04:11.560] Yeah.
[04:11.720 -> 04:11.960] Yeah.
[04:11.960 -> 04:16.000] And then we'll redraw again for the Monza race.
[04:16.000 -> 04:17.520] And we'll have a little talk about Monza.
[04:17.520 -> 04:20.760] Just a little sneak preview to the random fandom and we'll get
[04:20.760 -> 04:21.920] back to that towards the end.
[04:22.360 -> 04:23.960] What are you thinking for McLaren this weekend?
[04:23.960 -> 04:26.000] Are you happy with their performance or not?
[04:28.000 -> 04:31.000] I am happy with certain aspects of their performance.
[04:31.000 -> 04:37.000] I think one element of the team sadly dropped the ball,
[04:37.000 -> 04:39.000] which I think affected the rest of it.
[04:40.000 -> 04:43.000] Yeah, I think Aston was a little bit of a mixed bag.
[04:43.000 -> 04:45.400] And I, yeah, we'll get back to that.
[04:45.400 -> 04:48.400] I've got some good and I've got some bad to say.
[04:48.400 -> 04:51.240] Then yeah, after that we'll pick it.
[04:51.240 -> 04:53.160] We'll pick our next teams from Monza.
[04:53.160 -> 04:56.520] Unfortunately I'm going away this week, so I'm going to miss the live streams over on
[04:56.520 -> 05:00.400] YouTube, but I might be back on Sunday in time to do it, or I might just be knackered
[05:00.400 -> 05:04.000] because I'm going to have some really excellent beer in Bavaria.
[05:04.000 -> 05:09.780] So uh, Give yourself a little Bavarian toot toot.
[05:09.780 -> 05:10.780] Big toot toot.
[05:10.780 -> 05:12.200] Tell me, tell us, let's talk about the news.
[05:12.200 -> 05:13.200] What's going on?
[05:13.200 -> 05:15.820] Like with the, we're going to, and we're going to spoil some of the race analysis and breakdown
[05:15.820 -> 05:20.360] because some of the biggest news from the week happened during the week.
[05:20.360 -> 05:21.360] Yeah.
[05:21.360 -> 05:27.500] So obviously the biggest news is Daniel Ricciardo unfortunately suffered Wanker's
[05:27.500 -> 05:32.100] whiplash during, was it FP2?
[05:32.100 -> 05:35.100] Yeah, it was FP2.
[05:35.100 -> 05:40.220] Yeah, FP2, where he valiantly decided I'm not going to crash into Oscar, I'm going to
[05:40.220 -> 05:43.700] point the car into the wall.
[05:43.700 -> 05:46.120] And unfortunately he paid the price for that decision.
[05:46.120 -> 05:47.120] Yeah.
[05:47.120 -> 05:48.120] Broken hand.
[05:48.120 -> 05:49.120] Yes.
[05:49.120 -> 05:53.320] And it's a broken metatarsal or is it a metatarsal or is that the one in your foot?
[05:53.320 -> 05:54.320] I can't remember.
[05:54.320 -> 05:56.320] Tarsal is metacarpal hand I think.
[05:56.320 -> 05:57.320] Metacarpal.
[05:57.320 -> 05:58.320] Okay.
[05:58.320 -> 05:59.320] That would make sense.
[05:59.320 -> 06:00.320] Yeah.
[06:00.320 -> 06:01.320] I'm something of a scientist myself.
[06:01.320 -> 06:03.600] He has qualified doctors.
[06:03.600 -> 06:08.000] He's got Wankers whiplash and yeah, so he's had his first
[06:08.000 -> 06:08.760] operation on it.
[06:09.320 -> 06:14.200] Um, and he's, uh, I can't see the same wrist doctor as Lance Stroll did.
[06:14.960 -> 06:18.840] Oh, and another Wankers whiplash sufferer this year.
[06:18.960 -> 06:21.480] Our second Wankers whiplash incident of the year.
[06:22.080 -> 06:23.200] How do you, how do you break that?
[06:23.200 -> 06:24.920] Somebody's like, yeah, so, so what happened?
[06:24.920 -> 06:26.040] Oh, I was driving a Formula One car. Sure. You were, you were spanking it a little bit do you, how do you break that? Somebody's like, yeah, so, so what happened? Oh, I was driving a Formula 1 car.
[06:26.040 -> 06:26.320] Sure.
[06:26.320 -> 06:28.600] You were, you were spanking it a little bit too hard, weren't you, mate?
[06:28.600 -> 06:30.440] It's like, oops.
[06:30.560 -> 06:31.000] Yeah.
[06:31.000 -> 06:34.640] So, uh, we got, uh, Liam Lawson debut.
[06:35.400 -> 06:37.200] Oh, well, don't talk plenty about that.
[06:37.240 -> 06:37.720] Yeah.
[06:37.840 -> 06:41.040] But, uh, he's going to be, uh, Ricardo is going to be out for a few races, it
[06:41.040 -> 06:42.600] seems, which is understandable.
[06:42.640 -> 06:48.760] So, um, but luckily Lawson's not required in Japan for Superform until October.
[06:48.760 -> 06:50.200] So he's definitely in for Monza.
[06:50.500 -> 06:51.000] We know that.
[06:51.780 -> 06:54.960] I would highly suspect he's in for Singapore as well.
[06:55.540 -> 06:55.920] Yeah.
[06:56.100 -> 06:57.320] And what's after that Qatar?
[06:58.260 -> 06:59.200] Oh, I don't even know.
[06:59.200 -> 07:02.040] Maybe I barely knew it was Monza this week, mate, let alone what's
[07:02.040 -> 07:03.400] going on later in the calendar.
[07:04.200 -> 07:04.520] Yeah.
[07:04.600 -> 07:10.160] So we go Monza week off, Singapore, Japan week off, Qatar.
[07:10.160 -> 07:13.720] So I think he's in for a couple of weeks.
[07:13.720 -> 07:14.840] Easy, easy.
[07:14.840 -> 07:20.720] But so Lawson is P2 in the drivers championship in Super Formula.
[07:20.720 -> 07:28.240] And Super Formula is a really interesting series that a lot of the Red Bull drivers have gone through. And there's a lot of like, I started to work on a video about
[07:28.240 -> 07:32.400] Super Formula and then I gave up on it. Sorry, Snakes, who helped me with some research for it.
[07:32.400 -> 07:36.640] But I was just like, there's a lot going on in F1 right now. I can't talk about Super Formula. But
[07:37.600 -> 07:49.200] the cars in terms of performance are pretty rapid. Like, it's kind of like, It probably goes something like IndyCar, Super Formula, and then Formula One
[07:49.200 -> 07:55.200] in terms of performance. It's a spec series and only Japanese circuits. Here's the other thing,
[07:55.200 -> 08:02.800] though. Davreze is still on contract. Lawson could cover up to the US Grand Prix. After that,
[08:02.800 -> 08:08.340] during Mexico is the penultimate round in Japan at Suzuka.
[08:08.400 -> 08:09.540] That's a double header weekend.
[08:09.540 -> 08:11.780] So that's the final weekend is the 20th of October.
[08:12.240 -> 08:16.900] Um, so we could potentially, if Daniel's recovery isn't going as well
[08:16.900 -> 08:20.260] as expected, DeVries might be in Mexico.
[08:20.680 -> 08:22.500] What's a wild turn of events.
[08:22.500 -> 08:28.120] That would be, I can't see it happening, but what a wild turn of events that would be. I can't see it happening, but what a wild turn of events that would be.
[08:28.120 -> 08:32.960] Yeah, but I think I hope we had this chat the other day during the race.
[08:32.960 -> 08:37.360] It's like I think Lawson should definitely finish up the Super Formula season.
[08:37.360 -> 08:39.600] Like if somebody was like, you should finish, you should do that for.
[08:39.600 -> 08:43.040] It's like, what do you get for, you know, getting a couple of extra races driving the
[08:43.040 -> 08:47.000] F1 car, you know, or you say I'm a super form of the champion.
[08:47.040 -> 08:49.560] I showed up first year, aced it done.
[08:49.760 -> 08:53.120] Yeah, no, you should definitely finish the season, I believe.
[08:54.200 -> 08:56.200] But it was like a fun stat.
[08:56.840 -> 08:57.340] Go on.
[08:57.880 -> 09:02.000] Alpha Tauri have got, I've had more drivers this year than they've got points.
[09:04.280 -> 09:08.240] So they've got, they're on four drivers and they've only got three points.
[09:08.240 -> 09:08.800] So.
[09:08.800 -> 09:10.240] Oh my God, dude, that's.
[09:10.240 -> 09:11.520] Pick yourself up AlphaTauri.
[09:12.880 -> 09:17.280] You know what, and just to talk on that for a moment, I really hope they
[09:19.680 -> 09:25.040] do a better job next season because like you've got Red Bull 540 points.
[09:25.040 -> 09:27.560] AlphaTauri dead last.
[09:27.560 -> 09:31.000] They're getting beat by Alpha Romeo and Alpha Romeo have been insanely
[09:31.000 -> 09:32.320] disappointing this season.
[09:32.320 -> 09:35.120] Even Haas have been doing remotely well.
[09:35.120 -> 09:44.000] Speaking of which AlphaTauri have said that for 2024 they are taking as much as
[09:44.000 -> 09:46.000] they can legally from Red Bull.
[09:46.540 -> 09:49.840] I think they've discovered the errors of their ways where they sort of said, no,
[09:49.840 -> 09:53.060] no, no, we're going to try and go off and make as much of the car as we can.
[09:53.060 -> 09:56.040] And now I think they've realized, yeah, this one hasn't really worked out lads.
[09:56.040 -> 09:59.500] Let's, uh, let's max out the credit cards with, uh, the sister
[09:59.500 -> 10:01.020] team and buy as much as we can.
[10:01.640 -> 10:06.720] Honestly, in the past, I can understand, you know, like back in the day, Red Bull's first
[10:06.720 -> 10:09.960] points were with Toroso, which is now AlphaTauri.
[10:09.960 -> 10:10.960] Yes.
[10:10.960 -> 10:14.120] So, or is it the first points or the first win?
[10:14.120 -> 10:15.120] I believe it's the first win.
[10:15.120 -> 10:16.120] The first win, especially Vettel Monza, yeah.
[10:16.120 -> 10:17.120] Yeah, exactly.
[10:17.120 -> 10:18.120] 2000 and or who could it be?
[10:18.120 -> 10:19.120] Nine?
[10:19.120 -> 10:20.120] No, earlier than that.
[10:20.120 -> 10:21.120] Oh.
[10:21.120 -> 10:22.120] Surely Vettel Monza.
[10:22.120 -> 10:23.120] 1975.
[10:23.120 -> 10:24.120] No, come on.
[10:24.120 -> 10:25.000] I'm going to know this. No, earlier than that. Oh. Surely, Vettel, Monza. 1975.
[10:25.000 -> 10:29.000] No, come on, I'm going to know this.
[10:29.000 -> 10:36.160] While you're looking that up, I feel like it's one of those things, oh, we did this
[10:36.160 -> 10:37.160] in the past.
[10:37.160 -> 10:39.380] It's like, mate, it's 2022.
[10:39.380 -> 10:43.720] You guys need to buy everything you can buy from Red Bull and then focus on doing what
[10:43.720 -> 10:44.720] you do best.
[10:44.720 -> 10:46.360] Don't duplicate stuff and waste resource.
[10:46.360 -> 10:50.880] And I feel like to some extent, it's a little bit of arrogance to that regard.
[10:50.880 -> 10:52.600] Like, no, no, no, we can, we can do a better job.
[10:52.760 -> 10:53.880] We can do a better job than they can.
[10:53.880 -> 10:58.540] It's like, maybe you can, or you can focus your resources and effort on
[10:58.540 -> 11:02.080] things that make a difference and stop wasting money on standard components.
[11:02.080 -> 11:05.680] Cause those kinds of components shouldn't be performance differentiators.
[11:07.560 -> 11:08.880] That was a lovely piece you've just said,
[11:08.880 -> 11:10.360] but unfortunately chat calling you out
[11:10.360 -> 11:12.280] cause you said 2022.
[11:12.280 -> 11:13.400] I'm talking about last year.
[11:13.400 -> 11:15.000] I was going to say, I hate to break it to you mate,
[11:15.000 -> 11:16.280] but you're a year older.
[11:16.280 -> 11:17.100] No, exactly.
[11:17.100 -> 11:18.800] But like, no, but I mean, like even up to last year,
[11:18.800 -> 11:21.000] it's like, right, this is the cost cap era.
[11:21.000 -> 11:23.960] Why are you wasting money?
[11:23.960 -> 11:26.880] Yeah, so that's what I'm referring to. But anyway.
[11:26.880 -> 11:35.520] Yeah. What else? What else is we can? We've got we've got some great early early news
[11:35.520 -> 11:42.160] signs apparently is talking to Audi confirmed by signs senior. So Carlos signs senior will
[11:42.160 -> 11:48.200] not drive for Audi, which is currently a shame for Romeo. Yeah, he might do as good as Carlos Sainz Jr.
[11:48.200 -> 11:49.200] I don't know.
[11:49.200 -> 11:50.200] Maybe.
[11:50.200 -> 11:55.400] I think, I think, I think honestly, the one thing I would say about Carlos Sainz Sr. is
[11:55.400 -> 12:00.200] he would never ever say or complain on the radio that somebody was intimidating him.
[12:00.200 -> 12:05.360] Yeah, the senior might have done a better job in the conditions of the track as well
[12:05.360 -> 12:06.360] this weekend.
[12:06.360 -> 12:08.960] Yeah, he is rally skills.
[12:08.960 -> 12:11.440] Some of the smooth intimidator to be fair.
[12:11.440 -> 12:12.440] Smooth intimidator.
[12:12.440 -> 12:13.440] Oh dear.
[12:13.440 -> 12:19.600] But this doesn't really confirm much because everyone talks to everyone.
[12:19.600 -> 12:22.080] I talked to Audi at some point I went to the car dealership.
[12:22.080 -> 12:23.240] So I'll put that in the press.
[12:23.240 -> 12:24.920] I've been talking to Audi.
[12:24.920 -> 12:25.200] No, it's not slightly same shit. Audi at some point I went to the car dealership so I'll put that in the press. I've been talking to Audi.
[12:25.200 -> 12:25.680] No it's not.
[12:25.680 -> 12:26.080] That's slightly different.
[12:26.080 -> 12:26.480] Same shit.
[12:27.040 -> 12:27.520] Same shit.
[12:28.240 -> 12:33.360] But yeah a lot of drivers talk to a lot of people and I say drivers it's their agents
[12:33.360 -> 12:37.520] isn't it? Their agents are always out there sounding out with other teams and things like
[12:37.520 -> 12:50.760] that saying hey you know. So I wouldn't read too far into it. I think it's probably a smart ploy from Sainz Sr. to sort of say to Ferrari, we do have
[12:50.760 -> 12:53.080] interest from everywhere else.
[12:53.080 -> 12:57.840] So are they planning on adding some rally cross tracks to the 2026 calendar for Sainz
[12:57.840 -> 12:59.320] Jr. or what?
[12:59.320 -> 13:04.040] Yeah, this is the ghost of Bernie Eccleston has decided we're now going to race on the
[13:04.040 -> 13:05.560] Helsinki rally course.
[13:05.580 -> 13:06.680] Halfway through the season.
[13:07.200 -> 13:11.040] You say that and if you're listeners, you're going to, you're going to be mad at me.
[13:11.640 -> 13:13.440] Uh, some of you might be even shocked.
[13:13.760 -> 13:16.640] I didn't watch cars for the first time until this year.
[13:16.920 -> 13:18.840] And last weekend I watched cars too.
[13:18.880 -> 13:25.200] And I noticed that, uh, was it, was this name Francesco Bernoulli, the Italian formula car?
[13:25.200 -> 13:27.520] Oh my God.
[13:27.520 -> 13:30.900] He wasn't really good on that one stage that has a rally track in the middle of it.
[13:30.900 -> 13:34.800] He was absolutely shocking in that section of the track.
[13:34.800 -> 13:40.200] But, um, you know, I think signs the smooth intimidator could actually, uh, well, he's
[13:40.200 -> 13:42.880] a smooth intimidatee, isn't he?
[13:42.880 -> 13:43.880] Fair enough.
[13:43.880 -> 13:44.880] Yeah.
[13:44.880 -> 13:49.120] So there you go. There's the two middle aged men in their late 30s, giving you all the technical
[13:49.120 -> 13:51.080] analysis of the cars film.
[13:53.800 -> 13:58.240] Oh, Francesco Bernoulli would have done a better job with the pit stops this weekend.
[13:58.240 -> 14:01.200] So let's let's get into before we get into the race weekend, though.
[14:02.880 -> 14:03.600] That is just another thing.
[14:03.600 -> 14:08.040] So if you guys have been hanging out around the stream, you know that I typically stream
[14:08.040 -> 14:12.960] qualifying and race watch alongs and qualifying analysis over on Twitch in case you missed
[14:12.960 -> 14:13.960] it.
[14:13.960 -> 14:14.960] Those are all now on my YouTube.
[14:14.960 -> 14:20.200] So if you haven't head over to break F1 on YouTube, hit that subscribe button and keep
[14:20.200 -> 14:24.160] an eye out on the live thing for the streams.
[14:24.160 -> 14:25.680] Get involved, come hang out, come chat.
[14:25.680 -> 14:27.480] And we had a great time this weekend.
[14:27.480 -> 14:29.200] Some of the best watch along streams
[14:29.200 -> 14:31.700] I've done for my first streams on YouTube.
[14:31.700 -> 14:32.920] So I appreciate you guys.
[14:32.920 -> 14:35.280] I see a lot of you guys in the live YouTube chat
[14:35.280 -> 14:37.320] where we're recording this engine breaking episode
[14:37.320 -> 14:39.640] right now, who I've seen in there this weekend.
[14:39.640 -> 14:42.160] So give yourselves a big toot toot.
[14:42.160 -> 14:43.120] Appreciate you guys.
[14:43.120 -> 14:45.160] There you go.
[14:45.160 -> 14:51.240] So let's move into the race weekend.
[14:51.240 -> 14:55.520] Let's and I will let you start with this because while you're doing that, I'm going to kick
[14:55.520 -> 15:00.000] out my two dogs who have been kicking the absolute shit out of each other in the background
[15:00.000 -> 15:01.480] since we started recording.
[15:01.480 -> 15:02.680] Oh, love that.
[15:02.680 -> 15:03.680] Well, you know what?
[15:03.680 -> 15:05.440] I hope we can we can solve these issues.
[15:05.440 -> 15:10.720] So as Dan's kicking, if you're watching on video, Dan's just like, get out, get
[15:10.720 -> 15:12.920] out, you main G mutts, his dogs are cute.
[15:13.320 -> 15:16.840] Um, so let's talk through the race weekend.
[15:16.840 -> 15:21.120] We had the buildup FP one, a short spin was in the Ferrari in place of signs and
[15:21.120 -> 15:22.500] signs just stood there looking at him.
[15:22.500 -> 15:25.120] Like he's driving my car.
[15:25.120 -> 15:27.580] But that's that's not what I'm fairly sure.
[15:27.580 -> 15:33.520] This is a thing last year, but teams still have to use two young drivers and free practice
[15:33.520 -> 15:35.360] one sessions this season.
[15:35.360 -> 15:38.440] I don't feel like we've seen a whole lot of those.
[15:38.440 -> 15:42.600] So I feel like a lot of people are saving them for the end of the season, hoping to
[15:42.600 -> 15:46.120] make it the most out of their free practice one sessions until all the chips are down.
[15:46.600 -> 15:52.720] Um, yeah, we, uh, have Felipe Drogovic confirmed to be in the
[15:52.720 -> 15:54.680] FP1 for Aston at Monza.
[15:55.360 -> 15:56.640] He's a bit of a weapon in the-
[15:56.640 -> 15:58.160] Did he not do that last year, Aston?
[15:58.160 -> 15:58.800] He did, didn't he?
[15:58.960 -> 15:59.200] Yep.
[15:59.320 -> 16:00.080] Yeah, he has.
[16:01.280 -> 16:01.480] Yeah.
[16:01.480 -> 16:04.720] And then they could use the same rookie twice, but I think they have to use two,
[16:04.840 -> 16:10.520] they have to give up two free practice one sessions for their rookie drivers or junior
[16:10.520 -> 16:14.120] drivers or young drivers or whatever they classify them as.
[16:14.120 -> 16:17.440] But he was pretty strong in the old F2 last season.
[16:17.440 -> 16:24.320] So up and coming talent in the well deserving of some Formula One machinery action.
[16:24.320 -> 16:27.600] Free practice two, Nothing serious and nothing
[16:27.600 -> 16:31.600] happened at all important in free practice too. Nothing even remotely remarkable,
[16:32.160 -> 16:35.680] except for Ricardo breaking his hand and yeah, we've already gone through that.
[16:36.720 -> 16:44.640] Imagine though, imagine you're in the garage, right? And so Liam Lawson was on reserve driver
[16:44.640 -> 16:46.920] duties this weekend and when in doing
[16:46.920 -> 16:51.120] so he'll be standing in the Red Bull garage and behind the engineers. I think he was on
[16:51.120 -> 16:57.000] Max's side. So there's you know, there's GP, there's the performance engineer, Rich, there's
[16:57.000 -> 17:00.560] helmet and then Liam probably back there just watching the timing screens, watching the
[17:00.560 -> 17:07.920] feeds, maybe looking over Richard's shoulder every now and then. And then imagine you see Ricardo shunt like that.
[17:07.920 -> 17:09.520] And at first you're like, ah, bummer.
[17:09.520 -> 17:13.760] Then you see him out of the car and like there's him holding his hand and you're like.
[17:13.760 -> 17:14.760] Yeah.
[17:14.760 -> 17:20.080] Everyone just turns around in the garage and looks at him like.
[17:20.080 -> 17:23.300] But no, he was in the driver's briefing.
[17:23.300 -> 17:27.500] And then I think someone told him in the driver's briefing, they were like, Oh yeah, Liam, by the way, you're in the Alpha Tower.
[17:27.500 -> 17:31.980] And he was like, Oh, okay, shit.
[17:31.980 -> 17:32.980] You know what?
[17:32.980 -> 17:35.420] He's a really, really nice kid.
[17:35.420 -> 17:39.180] I'm super talented and we'll talk a little bit more about his weekend in a minute, but
[17:39.180 -> 17:43.540] a good on him for being able to step up and honestly keeping his nose super clean this
[17:43.540 -> 17:45.400] weekend and just, you know what?
[17:45.400 -> 17:50.400] People know that he's good, but not really, yeah.
[17:50.400 -> 17:54.000] Not really making any crazy mistakes or anything, really.
[17:54.000 -> 17:55.400] He finished ahead of Yuki.
[17:55.400 -> 17:56.300] All right.
[17:56.300 -> 17:58.000] It's a bit of a strange race.
[17:58.000 -> 18:01.400] We'll get into that little fucked up race that was.
[18:01.400 -> 18:04.900] Oh, here's the thing.
[18:04.900 -> 18:06.320] Free practice to.
[18:06.840 -> 18:09.000] The bottom three teams on the timesheets.
[18:10.280 -> 18:13.360] Ferrari and it wasn't their engine mode.
[18:13.360 -> 18:14.560] You look at their top speeds.
[18:14.560 -> 18:17.200] They were there's top speeds were speedy,
[18:17.240 -> 18:19.800] so I think on their quality runs
[18:19.800 -> 18:20.640] and free practice too.
[18:20.640 -> 18:23.040] They were pushing and not looking good
[18:23.040 -> 18:26.320] for those Ferrari powered teams. Anything
[18:26.320 -> 18:32.640] else you can think of from free practice too? Like once the weekend's over to qualifying I
[18:32.640 -> 18:37.200] completely forget free practice so I have to lean on my notes. It's free practice and with the
[18:37.200 -> 18:42.400] conditions this week it was so hard to sort of really take anything from it. But I did notice
[18:42.400 -> 18:45.240] that Albon looked very strong and I only noticed that
[18:45.240 -> 18:46.960] because that was in your report.
[18:47.360 -> 18:50.120] Oh yeah, all the old buymeacoffee.com.
[18:50.320 -> 18:54.760] Yeah, Alex, Alex throughout the whole weekend looking really strong in the
[18:54.760 -> 18:59.880] car. Good top speed, reasonable medium and low speed performance, but really
[19:00.240 -> 19:02.640] nobody was getting close to Verstappen in the high speed.
[19:02.880 -> 19:06.640] And we'll talk more about the performance in a little minute, but yeah.
[19:07.280 -> 19:10.660] Free practice three, a mixed wet and intermediate session.
[19:10.660 -> 19:14.440] And I don't recall anything crazy happening, maybe a couple of people,
[19:14.480 -> 19:16.340] but the Ferrari looked terrible.
[19:16.340 -> 19:20.060] The number of times the Claire went off the escape road at turn one and other
[19:20.060 -> 19:21.760] places and maybe signs as well.
[19:22.320 -> 19:22.560] Yeah.
[19:22.560 -> 19:23.200] It was like.
[19:24.660 -> 19:26.120] Yeah. What was it?
[19:26.120 -> 19:27.120] I think he did.
[19:27.120 -> 19:32.200] Four of his runs and the first three he bailed in turn one.
[19:32.200 -> 19:35.720] I was just like, oh, it's going to be one of those weekends, is it?
[19:35.720 -> 19:36.720] Okay.
[19:36.720 -> 19:38.800] So there's two things that come to mind there.
[19:38.800 -> 19:43.480] One of it is break temperature and break preparation is one, which is very tricky in the wet.
[19:43.480 -> 19:44.480] That's normal.
[19:44.480 -> 19:47.680] It happens to almost every team will have break issues in the wet at some point
[19:47.880 -> 19:48.880] or break balance maps.
[19:48.880 -> 19:54.120] But Jesus Christ, man, those Brembos absolutely not doing the business.
[19:54.840 -> 19:56.240] It's not the good stuff.
[19:56.240 -> 19:58.640] No. And when when the breaks are too cold, here we go.
[19:58.640 -> 19:59.360] Brace yourselves.
[19:59.360 -> 20:01.640] We're going fucking technical for the first time in a year.
[20:03.160 -> 20:04.680] What happens when your breaks are too cool?
[20:04.680 -> 20:05.880] They glaze over, don't they? They glaze over that is it?
[20:05.880 -> 20:07.400] They glaze over when they're too cold,
[20:07.400 -> 20:09.760] and they yeah, it's basically when
[20:09.760 -> 20:11.920] you're not putting enough energy
[20:11.920 -> 20:14.960] in them to basically burn the interface,
[20:14.960 -> 20:15.960] so they generate friction.
[20:15.960 -> 20:17.560] So you just kind of like smudge them
[20:17.560 -> 20:20.080] and they basically you have to get
[20:20.080 -> 20:21.960] them fucking hot again in order to clear
[20:21.960 -> 20:23.800] that and getting them hot means
[20:23.800 -> 20:28.720] you have to break hard if you don't have any mu between the pad and the disc you can't break hard so it's
[20:28.720 -> 20:32.820] just it's really really awful thing and you'll hear you'll hear drivers talk about their
[20:32.820 -> 20:37.320] brakes going to sleep a little bit and it's like it's not typically glazing unless it's
[20:37.320 -> 20:38.320] in the in the wet.
[20:38.320 -> 20:45.440] Yeah and it's like a vicious circle once you've glazed then you sort of screwed until you can sort it out.
[20:46.480 -> 20:50.080] So yeah there you go some slightly technical analysis for you there ladies and gentlemen.
[20:51.760 -> 20:54.640] What Blake is saying is that when you're driving down to your local butchers
[20:55.200 -> 21:01.040] slam the anchors on so your road car doesn't get uh... I'm definitely not saying that your uh
[21:01.040 -> 21:05.560] your road car will not usually have issues with... Blazed brakes.
[21:05.560 -> 21:10.560] Not unless you scorch them on a racetrack and melt them.
[21:10.600 -> 21:11.680] That's good.
[21:11.680 -> 21:13.840] Yeah, I'm a three-time winner of the Stevenage
[21:13.840 -> 21:46.640] Asda Traffic Lights Grand Prix, I'll have you know. Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr you it, so they what the fuck do we know? Oh, should we move on to qualifying?
[21:46.680 -> 21:49.600] Let's right so qualifying was another.
[21:49.600 -> 21:51.280] We've had how many is somebody
[21:51.280 -> 21:52.560] somebody in the stream have the stats
[21:52.560 -> 21:52.760] on this?
[21:52.760 -> 21:55.680] How many wet qualifying sessions
[21:55.680 -> 21:57.120] we had where a wet tire was run
[21:57.120 -> 21:57.960] during that session?
[21:57.960 -> 21:59.600] I feel like this is one of the most
[21:59.600 -> 22:00.440] prominent.
[22:01.520 -> 22:03.320] Or the most frequent appearances
[22:03.320 -> 22:06.200] of the wet tires in a race season we've had
[22:06.200 -> 22:11.600] in ages. Because I remember seasons when I was at the track, it's like, yeah, we've we
[22:11.600 -> 22:15.440] didn't run the wets this season. When it comes up to it, it's like, OK, I'm not sure how
[22:15.440 -> 22:18.840] much brake blanking we need to use. I'll guess. And I'm usually right. That's fine. I don't
[22:18.840 -> 22:22.280] know what we haven't tested the wet brake maps this season. It's like when it comes
[22:22.280 -> 22:25.740] to a wet session, it's not like you can compare prepare prepare for it's like, yeah, it's going to be
[22:25.740 -> 22:27.640] wet tomorrow, but it's good.
[22:27.640 -> 22:28.480] It's good stuff.
[22:28.580 -> 22:29.440] I fought this too.
[22:29.440 -> 22:34.220] And I wasn't sure if I was just having like a recency bias sort of thing, but
[22:34.220 -> 22:35.840] I was sitting and thinking about this earlier.
[22:35.840 -> 22:39.720] I was like, I can't remember the last time where we've had so much rain
[22:39.720 -> 22:44.760] interfere with like weekends and it's yeah, I don't know, just weird.
[22:44.760 -> 22:45.120] I don't know if it
[22:45.120 -> 22:49.920] was a recency bias thing or if it actually is more more sort of rain
[22:49.920 -> 22:52.760] occurring and yes I know there's people out there screaming global warming
[22:52.760 -> 22:56.160] that's fine but I'm just saying I don't remember the last time this happened
[22:56.160 -> 23:01.960] yeah so if you're a longtime listener a new time listener be sure to drop in the
[23:01.960 -> 23:05.120] comment any stats you got. You got that?
[23:05.120 -> 23:07.920] And if you're watching this on YouTube right now, hit that like button.
[23:07.920 -> 23:09.240] We're not doing any fucking research.
[23:09.240 -> 23:10.240] We're not doing any research.
[23:10.240 -> 23:11.240] Christ.
[23:11.240 -> 23:12.240] I am.
[23:12.240 -> 23:13.240] I'm just didn't.
[23:13.240 -> 23:14.240] I shouldn't do that research.
[23:14.240 -> 23:20.280] This is the fraudulent podcast where we just make up stats and just go with them as truth.
[23:20.280 -> 23:21.280] Fair enough.
[23:21.280 -> 23:22.280] But let's let's talk through Q1.
[23:22.280 -> 23:27.800] We lose Liam Lawson, who is basically 1.2 seconds off.
[23:27.800 -> 23:30.000] It's his second session in the car.
[23:30.000 -> 23:31.000] It's the inters.
[23:31.000 -> 23:32.160] He doesn't know the car.
[23:32.160 -> 23:35.140] He's barely driven on these intermediate tires.
[23:35.140 -> 23:37.960] He just keeps his nose clean, puts it at the back of the grid.
[23:37.960 -> 23:38.960] Fair enough.
[23:38.960 -> 23:44.120] We lose Bottas, Lawson, Magnussen, Ocon, and Joe.
[23:44.120 -> 23:46.560] Not bad, yeah, I don't think anyone can.
[23:47.520 -> 23:48.600] Begrudge Liam.
[23:51.280 -> 23:53.200] Yeah, I'm yeah, exactly.
[23:53.200 -> 23:54.360] It's like it's at the same time.
[23:54.640 -> 23:57.360] Kept his nose clean, just stayed out of state out of trouble.
[23:57.360 -> 24:01.680] You know it didn't try to do any heroics and this track is catching out some very
[24:01.680 -> 24:03.240] experienced drivers this weekend.
[24:03.240 -> 24:04.000] It is a.
[24:04.560 -> 24:05.760] It's a tricky track this one.
[24:05.760 -> 24:11.120] So it's good though, isn't it? It's an old school. I know it's such an overused sort of term, but
[24:11.120 -> 24:14.800] old school mate in it. An old school track when men were men.
[24:16.320 -> 24:20.560] Dude, I tweeted that over the weekend. No, sir, we don't need airbags. We don't
[24:20.560 -> 24:25.440] need traction control. We're going to die like real men.
[24:25.440 -> 24:27.440] So yeah, there you go.
[24:27.440 -> 24:29.440] I tweeted that this weekend though.
[24:29.440 -> 24:35.440] It's like gravel runoffs, proper circuit, high speed, low speed, elevation change, banked corners.
[24:35.440 -> 24:37.440] Like it's got everything.
[24:37.440 -> 24:39.440] It's a really, really cool circuit.
[24:39.440 -> 24:44.440] And I feel like the rain did help also to give us just a ton of the excitement a little bit on this one as well.
[24:44.440 -> 24:45.060] Which probably could have been a potentially process on this one as well, which probably
[24:45.060 -> 24:49.180] could have been a potentially processional race, but yeah, fair enough.
[24:49.180 -> 24:50.180] Yeah.
[24:50.180 -> 24:56.340] The changeable conditions were the just that spicy chili sauce you're missing for your
[24:56.340 -> 24:57.340] dinner.
[24:57.340 -> 25:01.300] A little bit of a, what do they call that?
[25:01.300 -> 25:02.300] Sriracha mayo.
[25:02.300 -> 25:03.300] Just a little.
[25:03.300 -> 25:04.300] Yeah, just a little.
[25:04.300 -> 25:05.280] Love that stuff. Just to tip it over the edge and think, oh yeah. Yeah, just a little, love that stuff.
[25:05.280 -> 25:07.000] Just tip it over the edge and think, oh yeah.
[25:08.040 -> 25:09.000] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[25:10.440 -> 25:15.920] So Q2, we lost Nico Ulkenberg, Yuki Tsunoda as well.
[25:17.000 -> 25:18.600] We lost Lewis Hamilton in Q2.
[25:18.600 -> 25:19.600] He was having a tough time.
[25:19.600 -> 25:20.280] We'll come back to that.
[25:20.280 -> 25:23.280] We also lost Gasly and Lance Stroll.
[25:24.760 -> 25:27.240] But, um, here's, here's the interesting thing I saw about that. We also lost Gasly and Lance Stroll. But here's the interesting thing I saw about
[25:27.240 -> 25:35.440] that. Going back through watching the radio messages from Q2, Russell was like, not definitely
[25:35.440 -> 25:39.860] first time lap, not to push, not to push. And then Lewis is out there trying to do two
[25:39.860 -> 25:44.160] push to get the tires in. And that goes to tell me that he was struggling to find the
[25:44.160 -> 25:45.640] peak of grip of the tire.
[25:45.640 -> 25:49.560] Maybe he had, I didn't look at their outlap times, but a speculation is maybe he pushed
[25:49.560 -> 25:54.880] like hell in the outlap and got them way over the peak, which I don't think is the case,
[25:54.880 -> 25:58.440] but he was really struggling with that and he really didn't have anything much to say.
[25:58.440 -> 26:02.640] He was like, he said in the press that they went different directions with the setup and
[26:02.640 -> 26:09.760] maybe that was it, but he was kind of just like, yeah, you know what? It is what it is. And I think it was what it was in the end.
[26:09.760 -> 26:14.320] We've seen this a few times this season with Mercedes, where they just sort of
[26:15.440 -> 26:17.840] seem a little bit lost on the Saturday with one of the cars.
[26:18.560 -> 26:18.800] Yeah.
[26:19.600 -> 26:24.720] But I think, uh, I don't know, how do I say this about it? Making it sounding like it's
[26:24.720 -> 26:25.200] slander
[26:25.200 -> 26:26.200] against Mercedes?
[26:26.200 -> 26:27.200] It is.
[26:27.200 -> 26:28.200] It is.
[26:28.200 -> 26:29.560] Yeah, sorry, it's all slander, sorry.
[26:29.560 -> 26:34.080] But this is what happens when you don't have such a powerful car to rely on.
[26:34.080 -> 26:38.120] It shows all the weaknesses in your other departments.
[26:38.120 -> 26:45.760] Yeah, and that is definitely, I would say, a very, very valid statement. Like in Red Bull, even Paul Monahan,
[26:45.760 -> 26:50.280] their trackside technical car chief guy,
[26:50.280 -> 26:51.600] I don't know what his title is anymore,
[26:51.600 -> 26:54.680] but he was like, the car's just good everywhere.
[26:54.680 -> 26:58.040] Like it's not amazing anywhere, it's just good everywhere.
[26:58.040 -> 27:00.560] It doesn't have very many places where it's off
[27:00.560 -> 27:02.040] and people that are struggling,
[27:02.040 -> 27:04.440] they're lacking at least one of those categories
[27:04.440 -> 27:05.920] and we can do better than that.
[27:05.920 -> 27:14.120] But this year, Hamilton Russell qualifying tally 7-6 and in Hamilton's favor.
[27:14.120 -> 27:16.400] That is toit.
[27:16.400 -> 27:21.040] Guess who has the only 13-0 on the grid right now?
[27:21.040 -> 27:22.880] I think I know this.
[27:22.880 -> 27:27.280] Is it Albon? Yep. Albon 13 to Sargent's zero.
[27:27.280 -> 27:33.000] And those stats are courtesy of my buddy Tomo who posts these qualifying tallies every
[27:33.000 -> 27:34.000] weekend on his Twitter.
[27:34.000 -> 27:39.240] And if you're not following Tomo on YouTube or on Twitter, a great creator, a good friend
[27:39.240 -> 27:42.720] of both Dan and I and the podcast and an absolute legend.
[27:42.720 -> 27:43.720] So check him out.
[27:43.720 -> 27:44.720] Good old Tomo.
[27:44.720 -> 27:47.400] I'm not bigging him up because he didn't, uh, he didn't transfer me 20
[27:47.400 -> 27:49.400] quid this week to, uh, big him up on the stream.
[27:49.400 -> 27:52.320] So you got, you got to pay your bills.
[27:52.320 -> 27:52.640] Tomo.
[27:53.240 -> 27:53.960] He didn't pay me.
[27:54.280 -> 27:55.200] He didn't pay me a damn thing.
[27:55.960 -> 27:56.480] Oh my God.
[27:56.480 -> 27:56.840] Yeah.
[27:57.240 -> 27:58.000] I like Tomo.
[27:58.120 -> 27:58.680] He's good lad.
[27:58.760 -> 27:59.200] He is.
[27:59.280 -> 28:02.120] And, and, and shit tasting football teams.
[28:02.200 -> 28:04.400] But what's this club?
[28:05.040 -> 28:07.880] Uh, uh, was it West Ham or Aston Villa?
[28:07.880 -> 28:09.040] He's going to fucking kill me now.
[28:09.040 -> 28:10.960] I can't remember West Ham or Aston Villa.
[28:11.000 -> 28:11.920] Either way, they're shit.
[28:12.680 -> 28:14.040] Oh no.
[28:14.600 -> 28:15.760] Oh, he's going to kill me for that.
[28:15.840 -> 28:17.280] Who's your football club then?
[28:17.880 -> 28:21.440] Uh, I don't really follow football, but if I had to pick, it's going to be Arsenal.
[28:22.840 -> 28:23.760] Is that good or bad?
[28:24.000 -> 28:25.160] Uh, it's typical Dan. Arsenal are like the Ferrari. pick is going to be Arsenal. Is that good or bad?
[28:25.840 -> 28:28.560] It's typical. I think Arsenal are like the Ferrari.
[28:28.560 -> 28:31.480] We're still living off our glory years in the early 2000s.
[28:32.320 -> 28:32.700] Yeah.
[28:32.760 -> 28:37.600] There's somebody in chat saying West Sham or East Ham.
[28:38.840 -> 28:39.400] Wow.
[28:39.440 -> 28:39.880] Anyway.
[28:40.120 -> 28:42.760] Um, so let's go, let's go back to the formula one.
[28:42.760 -> 28:44.920] This, this ADHD trips have been great.
[28:44.920 -> 28:47.280] This episode though. I appreciate it. I'm leading to them as well.
[28:47.280 -> 28:48.280] Yeah, that's good.
[28:48.280 -> 28:49.280] I can.
[28:49.280 -> 28:54.040] I know you're you're you're enabling me, son of a bitch.
[28:54.040 -> 28:55.040] So what do we got?
[28:55.040 -> 28:56.040] Q2?
[28:56.040 -> 28:58.280] Yeah, Hamilton knocked out Q3.
[28:58.280 -> 29:01.360] Everything's on slicks, but we had two substantial delays.
[29:01.360 -> 29:06.660] The track was drying, but it wasn't particularly perfectly dry yet.
[29:06.660 -> 29:11.420] We've got Sergeant out and we've got LeClaire crashing out. LeClaire's crash was like one
[29:11.420 -> 29:15.700] of those slow motion things like, oh, that bitch is understeering straight into the barriers.
[29:15.700 -> 29:19.380] And he did. But between those two red flag periods, the track dried out a bit. So it's
[29:19.380 -> 29:27.440] like every lap the drivers went out, the track was so much different, so that was probably a very challenging aspect of it.
[29:27.440 -> 29:29.440] So on the...
[29:29.440 -> 29:31.440] Those crashes are always the worst.
[29:31.440 -> 29:33.440] It's just like slow motion.
[29:33.440 -> 29:37.840] I can see what's going to happen, but I've got a few seconds to think about it sort of thing.
[29:37.840 -> 29:41.360] It's like, actually, you know what, let me slow it down a little bit and just enjoy this. No, I'm just kidding.
[29:41.360 -> 29:43.360] I don't do that.
[29:43.360 -> 29:46.480] But yeah. Did you see... Sorry to, um, did you see Norris?
[29:46.720 -> 29:48.200] So sorry, sorry to jump in.
[29:48.200 -> 29:50.680] Did you see Perez hit the wall as he came into the pits?
[29:51.320 -> 29:52.040] In the race?
[29:52.200 -> 29:54.240] Oh, was that the race or the race?
[29:54.240 -> 29:54.800] Or qualifying?
[29:54.800 -> 29:55.120] Okay.
[29:55.120 -> 29:55.600] It was the race.
[29:55.600 -> 29:56.000] Sorry.
[29:56.080 -> 29:56.320] Yeah.
[29:57.040 -> 29:57.800] We spoiled the race.
[29:57.800 -> 29:58.720] The race is over guys.
[29:58.760 -> 29:59.160] That's it.
[30:00.640 -> 30:05.600] No, but, um, Norris on that final run. You know that the final run in Q3 and
[30:05.600 -> 30:07.280] the everybody's getting all hyped up and
[30:07.280 -> 30:09.160] you're seeing purple sectors pop up.
[30:09.160 -> 30:12.040] Lando Norris throws a stinker in sector one.
[30:12.040 -> 30:14.320] I'm like, oh shit, is it happening?
[30:14.320 -> 30:16.440] Norris poll and then Max absolutely
[30:16.440 -> 30:18.080] pulls his pants down and spanks him in
[30:18.080 -> 30:20.520] sector two and three, but I mean.
[30:20.520 -> 30:22.520] That was that was an impressive run at
[30:22.520 -> 30:24.200] a really strong showing from the worst
[30:24.200 -> 30:26.000] to qualify P2 on the grid.
[30:26.000 -> 30:31.000] Russell, poor sector 1 and sector 3 and a reasonable sector 2.
[30:31.000 -> 30:38.000] Pretty much tells me looking at their top speeds as well, they had quite a bit of downforce and drag on the car.
[30:38.000 -> 30:45.160] But not not unraceable. The field spread. I think the field spread was.
[30:45.160 -> 30:47.840] There was a second between P1 and P5,
[30:47.840 -> 30:50.960] but I think if the track had been dry throughout,
[30:50.960 -> 30:55.280] I think that that grouping would have been tighter.
[30:55.280 -> 30:57.800] Yeah, less than a second in the top 1015.
[30:57.800 -> 31:00.480] I reckon I think we've seen a lot more chaos
[31:00.480 -> 31:03.000] because we saw that in free practice too.
[31:03.000 -> 31:10.160] For Stappans on pole by half a second, cleared El Nris, Perez P7. And I was looking through the data and my analysis on my Buy Me
[31:10.160 -> 31:16.160] a Coffee report, man, it looked like he was driving a different car in the seven and eight
[31:16.160 -> 31:21.040] high-speed corner and then the penultimate corner before the banked bit. He had no confidence in the
[31:21.040 -> 31:25.700] car. And that's not me feeding the conspiracy theory that they've given Checo a different car.
[31:25.700 -> 31:26.520] I completely.
[31:26.520 -> 31:26.880] It is.
[31:27.500 -> 31:28.000] No, it's not.
[31:28.040 -> 31:29.580] I'm not, I'm not biting that.
[31:29.580 -> 31:32.720] That's I'm going back to what I've said throughout the rest, the most of this
[31:32.720 -> 31:37.160] season, and it's the difference in prep between Max and Perez on their outlaps.
[31:38.160 -> 31:39.520] I think that's my theory.
[31:40.360 -> 31:44.200] I think that's part of it, but at the same time, it's like, I looked
[31:44.200 -> 31:45.680] at their outlap sector times. I think this weekend part of it, but at the same time, it's like, I looked at their outlap sector times,
[31:45.680 -> 31:48.260] I think this weekend they were quite reasonable.
[31:48.260 -> 31:52.400] It was literally Max's confidence and just full sending
[31:52.400 -> 31:56.520] and having the ability to deal with,
[31:56.520 -> 31:57.720] I'm gonna keep it on the track
[31:57.720 -> 31:59.960] and just yeeting it into everywhere.
[31:59.960 -> 32:00.800] And then looking at it,
[32:00.800 -> 32:02.840] nobody was really close to Verstappen
[32:02.840 -> 32:05.540] in the high-speed corners, except for sign.
[32:05.540 -> 32:10.100] So the Ferrari, um, it's got a lot of downforce except their balance and low and medium speed
[32:10.100 -> 32:11.820] corners is absolute dog shit.
[32:11.820 -> 32:16.160] And even sign, even the Claire said, you know, the car's under steering in places is over
[32:16.160 -> 32:17.160] steering in places.
[32:17.160 -> 32:18.360] I can't predict it.
[32:18.360 -> 32:23.320] So not only do you have the car being unpredictable, then the drivers then having to drive under
[32:23.320 -> 32:26.720] that so that they don't get unpredicted like Leclerc did.
[32:26.720 -> 32:28.840] And then, wash done.
[32:28.840 -> 32:34.720] Yeah, Ferrari have done that, that incredible thing of what they did, was it in 2014 or
[32:34.720 -> 32:39.520] whenever it was when they built a car that understeers and oversteers at the same time.
[32:39.520 -> 32:40.520] Simultaneous over understeers.
[32:40.520 -> 32:41.520] Congratulations.
[32:41.520 -> 32:46.040] That's, it's an incredible feat of ingenuity in engineering, but I'm not sure if it's actually
[32:46.040 -> 32:47.280] going to pay any dividends.
[32:47.280 -> 32:51.280] So two thoughts on that.
[32:51.280 -> 32:57.680] Oversteer understeer simultaneously, definitely very likely to be related to an aerodynamic
[32:57.680 -> 32:59.240] problem and instability.
[32:59.240 -> 33:04.440] And you know, part of the map where at a certain state of the austere roll and ride heights,
[33:04.440 -> 33:05.200] you lose downforce
[33:05.200 -> 33:09.400] or something falls apart. But at the same time, you can also have issues when you get
[33:09.400 -> 33:15.920] into suspension compliances. And basically where your tires are pointing as a function
[33:15.920 -> 33:20.200] of braking and cornering and accelerating, you know, small changes in that and like all
[33:20.200 -> 33:28.980] cars have compliance that and that's, that's fine, but making sure those compliances are tuned to make the car handle well are super fucking important.
[33:28.980 -> 33:34.680] And if you don't have a good feeling for that, even trouble, big trouble.
[33:34.680 -> 33:40.760] Bring back the super legal and definitely not illegal bendy floor from last year.
[33:40.760 -> 33:43.720] Pre pre Belgium pre technical directive.
[33:43.720 -> 33:47.040] Yeah, bring back the totally legal, definitely not bend in floor.
[33:47.080 -> 33:47.800] See what happens.
[33:49.080 -> 33:49.320] Yeah.
[33:49.320 -> 33:51.360] They seem to like everybody was like, yeah, we're going to slow
[33:51.360 -> 33:52.680] Red Bull down than everybody else.
[33:52.680 -> 33:53.200] Went slow.
[33:55.480 -> 33:56.840] It happens every time, man.
[33:56.840 -> 33:58.880] Every time somebody is like, yeah, I'm going to do a technical
[33:58.880 -> 34:00.520] directive because we don't think that's good.
[34:00.760 -> 34:01.880] Uh, we'll slow you guys down.
[34:01.880 -> 34:02.600] It's like, oh fuck.
[34:02.600 -> 34:03.240] We went slower.
[34:03.240 -> 34:03.640] Damn it.
[34:04.480 -> 34:05.400] Son of a. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. The execution was brilliant, we'll slow you guys down. It's like, Oh fuck. We went slower. Damn it. Son of a.
[34:06.120 -> 34:06.320] Yeah.
[34:06.320 -> 34:06.600] Anyway.
[34:06.600 -> 34:06.800] Yeah.
[34:06.840 -> 34:09.840] The execution was brilliant, but unfortunately with the wrong team.
[34:12.000 -> 34:16.080] So let's, let's get on to the Dutch Grand Prix of 2023.
[34:16.280 -> 34:24.560] We had, uh, an outstanding figure talented of 186 overtakes, but, uh, I don't think
[34:24.560 -> 34:25.760] that's the right nomenclature, isn't it?
[34:25.760 -> 34:27.440] We talked about this before the podcast.
[34:28.080 -> 34:28.560] Yeah.
[34:28.600 -> 34:32.920] So it was the record for the most overtakes in a race, wasn't it?
[34:32.920 -> 34:37.680] With 186, but I think overtakes is the wrong word.
[34:37.760 -> 34:41.560] I think position changes because the majority of those are going to be when
[34:41.560 -> 34:45.800] everybody shit the bed at the start of the race and was in the pits and whatnot.
[34:45.800 -> 34:46.800] Yeah.
[34:46.800 -> 34:50.200] So let's, let's look at this real quick.
[34:50.200 -> 34:51.200] This was a good race.
[34:51.200 -> 34:52.200] Sorry.
[34:52.200 -> 34:57.160] Don't take that as me saying, I think it was a great race, but at the same time, I feel
[34:57.160 -> 35:03.720] like rain does a really good job because what rain does is it introduces unpredictability
[35:03.720 -> 35:06.400] and we do not want predictable races.
[35:06.400 -> 35:07.960] I mean, the max winning the race
[35:07.960 -> 35:09.600] is probably inevitable, fine,
[35:09.600 -> 35:13.440] but we can at least shake up everything else.
[35:13.440 -> 35:16.280] So let's start with the race start.
[35:16.280 -> 35:18.400] There's some clouds in the sky.
[35:18.400 -> 35:19.480] Everybody's lined up on the grid,
[35:19.480 -> 35:23.560] except for Magnuson, who starts from the pit lane.
[35:23.560 -> 35:25.900] And as they're going around in sector
[35:25.900 -> 35:29.020] to the heavens open and it's moist,
[35:29.020 -> 35:30.620] it is very wet.
[35:30.620 -> 35:32.120] There are several drivers that
[35:32.120 -> 35:33.640] pit a midi on lap one.
[35:33.640 -> 35:36.800] We've got Perez Leclerc,
[35:36.800 -> 35:39.400] Magnuson, who's quite a far way back,
[35:39.400 -> 35:41.640] but being released from the pit lane late.
[35:41.640 -> 35:45.480] Sunota and Lawson all pit off of that.
[35:45.560 -> 35:50.120] And actually Lawson gets a penalty here for impeding.
[35:51.680 -> 35:52.880] Ah, right.
[35:53.600 -> 35:54.280] Here we go.
[35:55.280 -> 35:59.240] Bring on the Stuart slander that you've all known to come and love.
[36:00.080 -> 36:01.840] That you've all come to know and love, should I say?
[36:01.840 -> 36:03.000] Sorry, I got that completely wrong.
[36:03.360 -> 36:09.280] Um, I don't, I, I don't think that's really fair on Liam.
[36:10.840 -> 36:16.200] Uh, if you watch it, he comes in and Yuki's in the box in front of him.
[36:17.160 -> 36:20.920] So then he sort of has to sit outside the box, which is unfortunately in front of,
[36:21.000 -> 36:22.280] uh, was it one of the McLarens?
[36:22.280 -> 36:24.000] I forgot who was in front of him, Peden now.
[36:26.080 -> 36:30.280] So he basically, the, the box behind them, he's blocked that driver from exiting.
[36:30.280 -> 36:34.040] Because Yuki's stuck in the box in front of him, in his box.
[36:34.040 -> 36:38.480] So I think it's more of a team thing than a driver.
[36:38.480 -> 36:41.880] Like Liam can't help it if the team have basically gone, oh shit, bring both drivers in at the
[36:41.880 -> 36:42.880] same time.
[36:42.880 -> 36:44.600] I don't know.
[36:44.600 -> 36:48.400] The other thing is, he was in the transition lane, blocking them.
[36:48.400 -> 36:50.400] A, he wasn't in the pit lane.
[36:50.400 -> 36:56.800] So there's pit lane, transition lane, and then there's where the boxes are, where they stop.
[36:56.800 -> 37:03.680] The only thing they could do is he could have stopped alongside McLaren, rather than,
[37:03.680 -> 37:09.780] or whoever the team behind them was, he could have stopped alongside them instead of, you know, in front of them.
[37:09.780 -> 37:14.540] But I think that's one of the things that also Zandvoort's pit lane is notoriously,
[37:14.540 -> 37:16.740] uh, small and tight.
[37:16.740 -> 37:18.380] It's quite an old school pit lane.
[37:18.380 -> 37:19.760] So yes, it is.
[37:19.760 -> 37:23.180] And it is one of the favorite tracks that we like to reference.
[37:23.180 -> 37:26.920] Uh, when we talk about adding extra teams to the grid,
[37:26.920 -> 37:30.600] Zandvoort is the first one that would not be able to accommodate any more teams
[37:30.600 -> 37:33.120] because they are maxed out on garage space there already.
[37:33.680 -> 37:35.120] No, they just do a better job.
[37:35.120 -> 37:36.960] Like, honestly, that's nonsense.
[37:36.960 -> 37:38.000] Just try harder.
[37:38.000 -> 37:39.400] Just remove Red Bull's catering.
[37:39.400 -> 37:41.640] That will fuel up a few garage spots.
[37:42.040 -> 37:43.440] Easy, easy.
[37:44.560 -> 37:47.800] So, yeah, I mean, so that's that's lap one.
[37:47.800 -> 37:48.800] Here's the thing.
[37:48.800 -> 37:55.520] So the track goes from dry to wet and the rain lasts about eight laps, I'd say.
[37:55.520 -> 37:56.520] And here's the thing.
[37:56.520 -> 37:59.680] There's a couple teams which pit on lap one.
[37:59.680 -> 38:12.040] They full sent on it and there are a couple teams that pit on lap two and lap three. And if you pit after lap two, you're kind of, you're kind of fucked. People that did that, there
[38:12.040 -> 38:20.120] was Russell, there was Hamilton. He pit on lap three, Russell pit on lap four at the
[38:20.120 -> 38:25.480] end of those laps. Signs a little bit late, and then stroll. But here's the other thing.
[38:25.620 -> 38:29.240] Some people stayed out and the people on slicks were losing
[38:29.300 -> 38:32.380] 20 seconds a lap for several laps.
[38:32.860 -> 38:34.780] Guess how much a pit stop costs you here?
[38:35.640 -> 38:36.700] About 20 seconds.
[38:37.140 -> 38:37.380] Yeah.
[38:37.400 -> 38:39.220] So, you know, there were people that stayed out.
[38:39.860 -> 38:43.580] Just, just quickly, uh, chaff corrected me and said that pit lane, uh,
[38:43.960 -> 38:45.080] garages are being expanded
[38:45.080 -> 38:46.080] for 2024.
[38:46.080 -> 38:47.080] There you go.
[38:47.080 -> 38:49.760] So, so again, how much do I know?
[38:49.760 -> 38:50.760] Fuck all.
[38:50.760 -> 38:51.760] Zandvoort sorted.
[38:51.760 -> 38:52.760] Yeah.
[38:52.760 -> 38:56.800] But, uh, watching Checo on the inters basically driving around people like they were in F2
[38:56.800 -> 38:57.800] cars was, was hilarious.
[38:57.800 -> 38:58.800] Yeah.
[38:58.800 -> 39:07.040] I mean, you know, we had, we had people, um, that, so the field spread at lap 9 is.
[39:08.320 -> 39:13.280] 100 seconds, a minute, 40 after 10 laps because of people that stayed out.
[39:13.520 -> 39:17.080] And here's the thing, I did a little stat on this on Twitter today.
[39:17.520 -> 39:19.520] If you put on lap two or three.
[39:21.280 -> 39:23.600] If you put on lap one or two, you gained a lot of positions.
[39:23.600 -> 39:26.160] If you put on lap three, you kind of broke even.
[39:26.160 -> 39:32.600] And if you stayed out throughout that onto that same dry tire, you maybe lost a couple
[39:32.600 -> 39:33.600] positions.
[39:33.600 -> 39:36.320] But if you box at lap four or five, you lost out massively.
[39:36.320 -> 39:48.560] So the people that didn't make their bed, which was basically Mercedes and McLaren and stroll. Those those teams got absolutely hosed in the first stop, so.
[39:50.080 -> 39:51.560] Big for those guys.
[39:52.960 -> 39:55.200] But yeah, I mean that was that was actually so.
[39:56.560 -> 39:59.200] Shuffle forward, you got a couple people who stayed out.
[39:59.200 -> 40:04.680] They fall way back, but you've got Perez, who was one of the he comes out in the front in the lead.
[40:04.680 -> 40:07.760] He's something like 13 seconds ahead of Max.
[40:08.720 -> 40:14.220] In six or seven laps, Max eats up all of that lap time benefit that Checo has,
[40:14.340 -> 40:16.560] and he's a couple seconds behind him.
[40:17.500 -> 40:18.800] It was, it was impressive.
[40:19.300 -> 40:19.720] It was.
[40:19.800 -> 40:26.360] Yeah, this was a rare moment this year where we've actually seen the full potential
[40:26.360 -> 40:30.720] of the RB19 when it's fully unleashed, because Max has got such an easy time.
[40:31.240 -> 40:34.400] When he's in front, he just dials it back a little bit and
[40:34.400 -> 40:35.720] he just cruises to the win.
[40:36.160 -> 40:40.400] Whereas now it was like, oh, you know, strategy's gone a little bit wrong here.
[40:40.400 -> 40:43.960] You've got a bunch of places to make up and it was like, right, I'm going to use
[40:43.960 -> 40:46.340] this RB19 and I'm going to use a hundred percent of it.
[40:46.820 -> 40:47.140] Yeah.
[40:47.200 -> 40:48.920] And good God, did it go.
[40:49.600 -> 40:50.240] Fuck man.
[40:50.240 -> 40:53.940] That was what, but like, so, so looking at the laps, you know, first couple of laps,
[40:53.940 -> 40:58.360] Max had a little bit, he was a lap later, so he had less warmup, but a lap six, he
[40:58.360 -> 41:00.600] was near the two seconds faster lap seven.
[41:00.600 -> 41:02.460] Checo, I think was coming through traffic.
[41:02.800 -> 41:07.480] So Checo lost four seconds on that lap due to his position, which was not really his
[41:07.480 -> 41:08.480] fault.
[41:08.480 -> 41:12.400] And then after that, Max is still a second and a half faster than him per lap.
[41:12.400 -> 41:14.640] And then the unthinkable happens.
[41:14.640 -> 41:21.200] The track is starting to dry up and people after a couple of laps were only on lap 10.
[41:21.200 -> 41:29.260] Or sorry, lap nine and people like, right, it's time to come back onto the dry tires.
[41:29.260 -> 41:35.140] And the teams that hit early. As early as possible in both those situations, one out
[41:35.140 -> 41:42.580] the most and being that for Stappen pits ahead of Perez.
[41:42.580 -> 41:48.760] To cover Alonzo, because Alonzo is one of the first to stop back onto soft
[41:48.760 -> 41:54.760] tires. Actually, Hamilton was the first to stop with Magnuson and then Alonzo on at the
[41:54.760 -> 42:05.480] end of lap 10, but. That cover happens and then checko pits a lap later and there's the radio message. Did Max come out ahead?
[42:05.480 -> 42:06.480] Did Max undercut us?
[42:06.480 -> 42:10.680] And he was like, yep.
[42:10.680 -> 42:14.080] But at the same time, like there's, there's people saying that Red Bull sabotaged him
[42:14.080 -> 42:19.160] and I think Red Bull were probably a lap suboptimal with Perez's stop.
[42:19.160 -> 42:20.160] Could they have stacked?
[42:20.160 -> 42:21.160] Probably.
[42:21.160 -> 42:24.120] I don't think they thought the track was going to get that much faster that quickly.
[42:24.120 -> 42:28.620] I mean, there's, they're checking the sectors and probably by the time they called max and a pit they're like
[42:29.420 -> 42:33.620] We should have pitch echo once once they got that sector time in yeah
[42:36.000 -> 42:38.000] Yeah, I don't know I
[42:39.120 -> 42:41.780] Think going back I think I
[42:43.600 -> 42:48.880] Think Perez Going back, I think Perez, again, it sounds like slander to Perez, but it's not.
[42:48.880 -> 42:49.880] Don't take it that way.
[42:49.880 -> 42:55.440] But I think Perez's first pit stop in the very first lap wasn't calculated.
[42:55.440 -> 43:00.880] I think it was a, let's experiment for max by putting Checo on an intermediate tire and
[43:00.880 -> 43:01.880] see what happens.
[43:01.880 -> 43:04.600] And it just turned out to be the perfect time and the perfect strategy.
[43:04.600 -> 43:05.160] And they were like, oh, okay, that makes sense.
[43:05.280 -> 43:08.440] I think they used Perez a little bit in lap one as a guinea pig.
[43:09.440 -> 43:11.280] I don't, I think that was calculated.
[43:11.360 -> 43:12.480] You think looking, yeah.
[43:12.480 -> 43:16.680] Looking at, looking, looking at sector times, like from, from the sectors.
[43:16.680 -> 43:19.040] And it's like, it's fucking pissing it down.
[43:19.280 -> 43:22.080] If it's, if it's not this lap, it's the next up and everything we've learned.
[43:22.680 -> 43:26.920] Like I'm thinking, thinking back to what we've seen before.
[43:26.920 -> 43:33.280] It's like you can lose more time on a slick on a wet track than you lose by stopping twice
[43:33.280 -> 43:36.480] in some instances, as long as you're on the right tire on that right lap.
[43:36.480 -> 43:37.840] We saw it in Monaco.
[43:37.840 -> 43:39.000] We saw it again here.
[43:39.000 -> 43:40.720] Right tire, right time.
[43:40.720 -> 43:44.640] I don't really think that they needed to guinea pig.
[43:44.640 -> 43:49.160] I think they made the right call with Perez and they didn't give up track position with Max.
[43:49.680 -> 43:54.920] And I wouldn't be surprised if the drivers were driving a lot of those decisions to stop.
[43:55.680 -> 43:59.520] Yeah, chat are correcting me saying that Checo made the decision for the lap one stop.
[44:00.200 -> 44:03.600] Ah, so yeah, I think the drivers were.
[44:03.600 -> 44:05.720] That would make my theory wrong and I'm never wrong.
[44:05.720 -> 44:08.960] So sorry, I'm just going to have to ban every single one of you now.
[44:09.560 -> 44:09.840] Yeah.
[44:09.880 -> 44:12.400] But I mean, that's, that's one of the things like the driver has to call it.
[44:12.400 -> 44:16.000] And Max, you don't usually give up track position.
[44:16.000 -> 44:17.160] We see it happen a lot of times.
[44:17.160 -> 44:20.280] There's, there's never any controversial things where people don't pit to keep
[44:20.280 -> 44:21.920] track position and then something bad happens.
[44:21.920 -> 44:22.200] Right.
[44:23.560 -> 44:24.200] Oh, never.
[44:25.060 -> 44:25.360] Okay. Okay.
[44:25.760 -> 44:25.880] Okay.
[44:25.880 -> 44:26.360] I thought not.
[44:27.040 -> 44:27.640] Fake news.
[44:28.200 -> 44:28.560] Yeah.
[44:29.000 -> 44:32.640] So the race kind of the rest of the race plays out.
[44:32.640 -> 44:35.800] Max has a pretty decent pace advantage over Perez.
[44:35.840 -> 44:39.760] Um, the rest of the race is I believe a two stop soft from there, uh,
[44:39.800 -> 44:41.480] pitting around that 40 to 50.
[44:42.000 -> 44:45.160] Uh, and then it goes into intermediates at the end and more chaos happens
[44:45.160 -> 44:46.400] but we'll come back to that.
[44:46.400 -> 44:50.800] Spoiler alert, red flags.
[44:50.800 -> 44:55.280] Here's the thing though, Checo pits.
[44:55.280 -> 45:00.560] When the car was in, that was a weird one, they boxed Checo when there was Joe in the
[45:00.560 -> 45:04.080] wall at turn one, was it?
[45:04.080 -> 45:05.640] Was it not turn one? Joe was in the wall at turn one, was it? Was it not turn one? I can't remember what turn it was.
[45:05.920 -> 45:07.200] Joe was in the wall.
[45:07.320 -> 45:08.200] He was stuck.
[45:08.480 -> 45:10.120] It was pissing it down.
[45:10.160 -> 45:11.120] There was spray in the air.
[45:11.120 -> 45:11.920] Visibility was low.
[45:11.920 -> 45:14.040] It was going to be a red flag and they did box him there.
[45:14.520 -> 45:19.000] So he ends up in the pit lane stuck, but what they do is they basically just let
[45:19.000 -> 45:24.800] him do a lap to reset that because they wanted to roll back the order to before
[45:24.800 -> 45:25.960] that lap, which
[45:25.960 -> 45:26.960] I guess makes sense.
[45:26.960 -> 45:30.040] The last, this is, I think we've had this a few times, isn't it?
[45:30.040 -> 45:35.720] Where it has to go back to the last sector time or something, the last full sector, wherever
[45:35.720 -> 45:39.000] car crossed it before the red flag, and they have to go on that order.
[45:39.000 -> 45:40.760] Yeah, yeah, exactly.
[45:40.760 -> 45:48.160] So that's why he sort of ended up not being, he started sort of way before he pitted, whatever.
[45:48.160 -> 45:49.160] It makes sense in my head.
[45:49.160 -> 45:51.040] I'm just doing a terrible job of explaining it.
[45:51.040 -> 45:52.040] No, that's fine.
[45:52.040 -> 45:56.440] Thanks for being here for the whole year, listening to me, fuck this up.
[45:56.440 -> 46:03.520] But like, but like really see looking at the race as well on the softs, Max was in general
[46:03.520 -> 46:07.840] on average three to four tenths faster than Checo throughout the race.
[46:07.840 -> 46:15.840] And yeah, I think Max was clearly qualifying in the inters on the race on the slicks and
[46:15.840 -> 46:18.440] on the inters just faster.
[46:18.440 -> 46:19.440] So yeah.
[46:19.440 -> 46:24.800] But we got something funny as well, Hafen.
[46:24.800 -> 46:26.000] Go on.
[46:30.000 -> 46:34.000] We had a stat for the first time this season. Somebody overtook Max Verstappen on track.
[46:35.000 -> 46:36.000] Who was it?
[46:37.000 -> 46:39.000] I'm looking at chat right now.
[46:39.000 -> 46:42.000] Rory Talks F1 says it was Lawson.
[46:42.000 -> 46:48.440] Yeah, Liam Lawson was the first person this year to overtake Max Verstappen on track.
[46:48.440 -> 46:49.800] That's because he was on inters.
[46:49.800 -> 46:53.000] Shh, shh, shh, no, let the agenda agend.
[46:53.000 -> 46:56.360] Liam Lawson, the future GOAT.
[46:56.360 -> 46:59.200] Oh my god, let's go Liam.
[46:59.200 -> 47:00.520] Big up, big toot toot.
[47:00.520 -> 47:03.000] But um, so that's kind of Red Bull's race.
[47:03.000 -> 47:07.120] Like I don't, I feel like a lot of teams got it like.
[47:07.120 -> 47:13.320] The penalty for being a lap out on your stop sequence can be small.
[47:13.320 -> 47:19.520] And Checo basically got a huge advantage by the advantage he got from stopping on lap
[47:19.520 -> 47:20.940] one.
[47:20.940 -> 47:22.680] Was huge.
[47:22.680 -> 47:25.280] The advantage he lost by stopping a lap late,
[47:25.280 -> 47:27.680] going back to the slicks was not as much.
[47:27.680 -> 47:31.120] And realistically, I think Max making up the pace there.
[47:31.120 -> 47:33.480] But perfectly, if they would do it perfectly,
[47:33.480 -> 47:35.560] they should have stacked them that lap.
[47:35.560 -> 47:37.360] There was a three or four second gap.
[47:37.360 -> 47:41.560] Max would have lost two seconds over a normal pit stop.
[47:41.560 -> 47:44.080] Yeah, I saw a comment on this.
[47:44.080 -> 47:46.720] Someone said apparently the cameraman was standing in the way, which is
[47:46.720 -> 47:48.600] preventing a double stack, which I thought was a bit.
[47:50.560 -> 47:53.760] I don't know, I know it's a short pit lane and it's small, so that's.
[47:53.840 -> 47:57.280] Yeah, but what you do is you get your rear jack man, who's usually a big lad
[47:57.280 -> 47:58.560] and you go knock him the fuck out.
[47:58.560 -> 48:00.720] Yeah, beat the shit out of photographers.
[48:01.520 -> 48:01.920] Yeah.
[48:02.400 -> 48:04.040] No, no disrespect to photographers.
[48:04.080 -> 48:09.560] Oh yeah, I know it's a hard job. Most of the pit lane photographers and videographers are very seasoned, but
[48:09.560 -> 48:13.840] sometimes you get somebody new who's a bit of a fucking jackass and, uh, yeah,
[48:13.920 -> 48:16.480] fortunately the rear Jackman didn't have to knock this dude out.
[48:17.040 -> 48:20.360] Mate, I worked for the team and I got in the way, let alone someone else.
[48:21.520 -> 48:22.280] Yeah, fair enough.
[48:22.280 -> 48:23.520] I was just permanently in the way.
[48:26.060 -> 48:28.480] So other, other interesting stories in the race.
[48:28.480 -> 48:30.320] That's sorry, just audio listeners.
[48:30.320 -> 48:32.800] That was Blake pouring a drink, not taking a piss.
[48:32.800 -> 48:33.840] If you just heard that.
[48:34.400 -> 48:36.040] I've got a port-a-potty on stream.
[48:38.040 -> 48:40.560] But let's look at the results and like I didn't really.
[48:40.560 -> 48:41.120] We'll come back.
[48:41.160 -> 48:42.200] I'll come back to Alonso.
[48:42.200 -> 48:43.640] Max Verstappen wins the race.
[48:45.440 -> 48:46.800] While we're talking about the Red Bull race,
[48:46.800 -> 48:49.680] so at the end Perez boxes in the pit lane,
[48:49.680 -> 48:51.840] he gets a pit lane speeding limit.
[48:51.840 -> 48:54.320] He goes over the pit lane and he smacks the pit wall
[48:54.320 -> 48:56.240] on the way in and damages his rear wing.
[48:56.240 -> 48:59.760] So he then has a five second penalty applied to him,
[48:59.760 -> 49:01.600] which knocks him off the podium.
[49:02.800 -> 49:06.440] So the podium is Max Fernando.
[49:06.440 -> 49:13.040] Checo has lost his podium spot and we have Pierre Gasly on the podium.
[49:13.040 -> 49:19.200] We should talk about his race quickly because I think it's pretty interesting what happened.
[49:19.200 -> 49:21.200] Go for it, Mr. Data Man.
[49:21.200 -> 49:22.840] Oh, Gasly pitched.
[49:22.840 -> 49:24.560] What was interesting about Gasly's race?
[49:24.560 -> 49:25.640] He had a good race.
[49:25.800 -> 49:26.960] He had a very good race.
[49:27.200 -> 49:28.560] From the viewers perspective.
[49:29.120 -> 49:31.160] So Gasly, sorry, not 16.
[49:31.720 -> 49:34.520] Gasly starts in.
[49:35.720 -> 49:36.440] P12.
[49:37.080 -> 49:38.880] No, I'm sorry, if I got this all fucked up.
[49:39.280 -> 49:39.840] Probably.
[49:41.360 -> 49:44.160] Let me just double check my notes here, because I do not like misspeaking.
[49:44.160 -> 49:46.720] It makes me really uncomfortable.
[49:46.720 -> 49:48.200] Pierre Gasly starts P12.
[49:48.200 -> 49:52.280] OK, that is correct.
[49:52.280 -> 50:00.140] By he then stays out, he boxes on lap two, so he's suboptimal on this stop, but he comes
[50:00.140 -> 50:08.200] out on the inter and he's running around in third or fourth, basically Basically, the rest of the race and I did not flag this at any point.
[50:09.800 -> 50:10.300] I was like.
[50:11.200 -> 50:13.900] What unless something is completely wrong with my data?
[50:13.900 -> 50:15.100] I don't think that's the case.
[50:15.300 -> 50:19.100] I mean, peers running around most of the race in 4th and 5th
[50:20.100 -> 50:20.700] correction.
[50:21.300 -> 50:25.400] He does a he stops a lap late for the first stop.
[50:25.400 -> 50:29.000] Alcon stops on lap 2 at the end of lap 2, so that's not great.
[50:30.900 -> 50:34.500] Has two soft stints, throws on an enter at the end when the tracks wet again
[50:34.800 -> 50:38.300] and then just holds on to P4 and then yeah.
[50:39.600 -> 50:41.600] Yeah, so Gatsby was a lap one stopper.
[50:41.600 -> 50:42.200] That is correct.
[50:42.200 -> 50:43.800] That is why he was so far ahead.
[50:44.700 -> 50:46.240] It's my chart. This is lap the first lap of the stint, lap one stopper. That is correct. That is why he was so far ahead. It's my chart that says lap
[50:46.800 -> 50:47.920] the first lap of the stint,
[50:47.920 -> 50:48.680] not the stop lap.
[50:48.680 -> 50:51.560] So again, anybody that stopped on lap
[50:51.560 -> 50:54.760] one made huge gains, huge gains,
[50:54.760 -> 50:56.600] and Gatsby kept his nose
[50:56.600 -> 50:58.480] clean and stayed out of trouble.
[50:59.000 -> 51:00.560] And to be fair, I'll call
[51:00.720 -> 51:02.600] I'll call from P16 to P10,
[51:02.600 -> 51:04.200] so he does make an improvement,
[51:04.240 -> 51:07.680] but Gatsby's race and like looking at his pace,
[51:07.680 -> 51:10.160] Gasly's pace was not that far off of Alonso.
[51:10.160 -> 51:12.360] He matched Alonso in the middle,
[51:12.360 -> 51:13.720] sent on the soft.
[51:13.720 -> 51:16.680] Then later in the race he falls behind.
[51:16.680 -> 51:18.960] I believe.
[51:18.960 -> 51:20.000] I can't tell you that is.
[51:20.000 -> 51:22.120] I think that might be Norris.
[51:22.120 -> 51:24.480] For a bit.
[51:24.480 -> 51:28.680] And I need struggles to. get past him, but yeah, that
[51:28.680 -> 51:34.160] was honestly Gazley drove an awesome race, kept out of trouble.
[51:34.160 -> 51:42.640] Finishes P4 on the road and gets the five second penalty from the old Checo man.
[51:42.640 -> 51:43.640] Not bad at all.
[51:43.640 -> 51:45.840] Do you know who else got a penalty that I completely missed?
[51:45.840 -> 51:46.840] Go on.
[51:46.840 -> 51:47.840] Kevin Magnussen.
[51:47.840 -> 51:53.640] Got a 5 second time penalty for falling more than 10 car lengths behind a safety car.
[51:53.640 -> 51:55.080] I completely missed that.
[51:55.080 -> 51:56.080] I didn't.
[51:56.080 -> 51:57.880] I didn't see that at all.
[51:57.880 -> 51:59.360] I had no idea that happened.
[51:59.360 -> 52:00.360] Yep.
[52:00.360 -> 52:02.480] I'll just check the notes now and that happened.
[52:02.480 -> 52:04.560] I completely missed it.
[52:04.560 -> 52:06.340] So where does he finish?
[52:06.340 -> 52:07.440] Magnuson finishes.
[52:07.500 -> 52:12.920] I mean, and also, keep in mind that when you have time penalty at the end of the race,
[52:12.920 -> 52:17.100] when there's been a red flag, we had this in, uh, Melbourne.
[52:17.800 -> 52:19.420] Huge like sciences penalty.
[52:19.500 -> 52:19.980] Oh shit.
[52:19.980 -> 52:20.280] Yeah.
[52:20.800 -> 52:24.240] When they're in a gap, like their nose to tail and you get a five second penalty, you
[52:24.240 -> 52:27.200] go from podium to P37 or something.
[52:31.200 -> 52:33.500] Yeah, but other.
[52:34.100 -> 52:34.400] Go on.
[52:34.400 -> 52:35.500] No, you go for you go.
[52:35.800 -> 52:38.900] No, it's just I was just gonna move on to Albon because I think Albon needs a
[52:38.900 -> 52:40.700] can we have one a little toot toot real quick.
[52:42.300 -> 52:43.400] Yeah, go on Albon.
[52:43.800 -> 52:49.400] Albon goes long and Albon was one of the guys that stayed out on the soft
[52:49.400 -> 52:55.300] and he goes on to do a hashtag blessed 44 lap long stint on his new soft.
[52:55.300 -> 52:58.300] Unfortunately, there's a little gotcha from this.
[52:59.500 -> 53:00.600] So what's the gotcha?
[53:01.300 -> 53:06.480] On a wet weather race, if you at any point fit a wet weather specification of tire and enter.
[53:07.120 -> 53:08.160] Or a full wet.
[53:08.760 -> 53:11.560] You do not have to use two dry tire compounds.
[53:13.240 -> 53:19.280] Alex Albon does a basically what's going to be a one stopper on a soft and he
[53:19.280 -> 53:23.480] doesn't have a new soft to fit a, and he still has to fit at this point.
[53:23.480 -> 53:24.960] They're not sure it's going to rain again.
[53:25.480 -> 53:31.920] He has to fit a and he still has to fit at this point. They're not sure it's going to rain again. He has to fit a different tire, so he fits a medium from lap 45 and then drives that
[53:31.920 -> 53:38.120] until it starts pissing it down at that point on the time the.
[53:38.120 -> 53:41.040] He was all the way up.
[53:41.040 -> 53:45.600] I think in P6 at one point and then after the rain falls and the red flag and the restart
[53:45.600 -> 53:49.320] finishes was P8.
[53:49.320 -> 53:53.360] So Albon getting another haul of points in the Williams.
[53:53.360 -> 53:55.840] Sergeant retiring due to a hydraulics failure.
[53:55.840 -> 53:58.240] I believe he lost power steering and brake by wire.
[53:58.240 -> 54:05.920] And yes, and also as well, I've got, I've a shout out to Logan Sargent, bless him.
[54:06.560 -> 54:12.420] Uh, he went full Latifi this weekend, I think in, uh, in qualifying, he gets into
[54:12.420 -> 54:14.940] Q3 and then celebrates by immediately crashing it.
[54:15.600 -> 54:16.100] Yeah.
[54:16.560 -> 54:17.060] Oofed.
[54:17.560 -> 54:23.260] Uh, so yeah, but, uh, in the race, unfortunately he had that, uh, issue
[54:23.260 -> 54:24.480] which put him into the barrier.
[54:24.480 -> 54:26.440] So yeah.
[54:28.760 -> 54:29.640] Let's put it this way.
[54:30.000 -> 54:35.040] Uh, Williams not insanely fast this weekend, Logan definitely on the struggle bus, like
[54:35.040 -> 54:39.680] you mentioned, but looking at Albon's lap times on the soft, um, I mean, given it was
[54:39.680 -> 54:44.400] a relatively old soft that had been through a lot, um, he was still half a second, the
[54:44.400 -> 54:46.440] lap off of Fernando towards the end of that after he's
[54:46.440 -> 54:48.020] gotten to some dag.
[54:48.020 -> 54:50.520] But I think.
[54:50.520 -> 54:53.960] Let's go to this pace ranking order.
[54:53.960 -> 54:55.440] Red Bull on top.
[54:55.440 -> 54:58.360] Aston Martin pretty impressive.
[54:58.360 -> 55:00.960] Alpine hanging on to the Aston.
[55:00.960 -> 55:03.720] Ferrari a little bit kind of hopeless.
[55:03.720 -> 55:07.860] Williams not that much worse. Probably similar to the Ferrari in race trim.
[55:07.860 -> 55:10.180] Fucking wild that.
[55:10.180 -> 55:13.500] Wow, Aston looking quick this weekend
[55:13.500 -> 55:16.700] and what did they bring this weekend?
[55:16.700 -> 55:18.380] A new floor.
[55:18.380 -> 55:22.180] Oh my God, it's interesting and I'm going to try and do a video
[55:22.180 -> 55:23.500] on this in the next week or two.
[55:23.500 -> 55:27.600] Aston's philosophy from the start of the season to now has changed massively.
[55:27.600 -> 55:30.800] At the beginning of the season, their philosophy was shitloads of downforce,
[55:30.800 -> 55:34.640] great high-speed corning performance, really slow in a straight line, and now they're
[55:35.280 -> 55:38.720] reasonably quick in a straight line and they just have no high-speed corning performance here,
[55:38.720 -> 55:41.280] at least at Zandvoort, and it's like, okay, something's changed.
[55:41.280 -> 55:46.520] And somebody's saying around Canada's time they got slapped with a TD about front wing.
[55:46.520 -> 55:48.360] You know, the front wings are regulated.
[55:48.360 -> 55:55.320] They can't deflect more than X under Y load, but they found a way to potentially, I'm extrapolating,
[55:55.320 -> 55:59.680] get around this test and have a wing that bent in a favorable manner.
[55:59.680 -> 56:00.680] Yeah.
[56:00.680 -> 56:05.000] Yeah, I was going to say something I completely fucking forgotten now.
[56:05.000 -> 56:06.000] Well done, Daniel.
[56:06.000 -> 56:15.040] Yeah, but speaking of, we missed out somebody from that performance pecking order that Lewis
[56:15.040 -> 56:18.840] at the end of the, he said, you know, we could have been fighting this weekend if we had
[56:18.840 -> 56:20.480] made better calls on the pit wall.
[56:20.480 -> 56:24.200] And yeah, I think that's a fair statement.
[56:24.200 -> 56:25.200] I think it's positive. I think it's positive.
[56:25.200 -> 56:29.780] It's definitely some some positivity and some good vibes, but the only thing that showed
[56:29.780 -> 56:35.660] us that Mercedes would be competitive, at least from what happened on Sunday, was Russell's
[56:35.660 -> 56:42.220] final stint on the intermediate after he serves a penalty, goes into the pit lane, stops twice
[56:42.220 -> 56:47.880] in two laps, it looks like and, he's basically somewhat close to matching
[56:47.880 -> 56:49.760] Verstappen's pace in clean air.
[56:50.840 -> 56:55.320] So you're telling me this is adding more evidence to my theory that I said a few
[56:55.320 -> 56:59.280] episodes ago, where the Mercedes is an absolute shit box on high fuel.
[56:59.880 -> 57:04.640] And then when it burns off its fuel, its race pace magically massively improves.
[57:05.720 -> 57:09.040] I would say that the verdict is still out on that.
[57:09.040 -> 57:12.380] And I think there's a lot of data we can go look at to prove whether or not that could
[57:12.380 -> 57:14.000] be possible.
[57:14.000 -> 57:19.040] The only thing we can take away from this race was the field spread was really tight.
[57:19.040 -> 57:22.600] And when you have a close field spread, it makes overtaking extremely difficult.
[57:22.600 -> 57:25.460] In order to overtake you need a top speed delta
[57:25.460 -> 57:28.200] and a lap time delta in order to increase the probability
[57:28.200 -> 57:29.920] of the driver being able to overtake.
[57:29.920 -> 57:31.840] People mostly being on the same strategy
[57:31.840 -> 57:33.520] made that difficult from a tire life
[57:33.520 -> 57:35.880] or tire performance point of view.
[57:35.880 -> 57:38.520] And the other thing is Mercedes was stuck behind cars
[57:40.200 -> 57:41.300] that were slower than them,
[57:41.300 -> 57:42.960] but not that much slower than them.
[57:42.960 -> 57:50.720] So we really didn't get to see what Mercedes could do at all until Russell was out on his loan some 40 seconds off the back
[57:50.720 -> 57:59.520] of the pack at the end of the race. I'm going with my theory because I'm wrong about 99% of the time
[57:59.520 -> 58:08.600] on this show. I want my 1%. I am the 1% today. Indeed, but yeah, I think maybe they do struggle a little bit at high fuel,
[58:08.600 -> 58:12.880] but I think they've got a lot of other fundamental struggles.
[58:12.880 -> 58:16.560] And like you mentioned before, when you have a car that's not great,
[58:17.200 -> 58:19.400] it's really easy for the weaknesses to be.
[58:21.200 -> 58:24.600] Very obvious, whereas Red Bull like we had a couple of issues.
[58:24.600 -> 58:27.320] We'll just turn it down a little bit and we'll be alright.
[58:27.600 -> 58:27.880] But.
[58:28.880 -> 58:33.360] Yeah, I think if they had clean air, I think they would have been faster
[58:33.360 -> 58:36.400] because they're clearly nose to tail with the cars in front of them,
[58:36.400 -> 58:38.520] which usually implies there's a car holding them up.
[58:38.520 -> 58:42.920] And I think that one point that was maybe a Sunoda.
[58:43.880 -> 58:45.160] Or so when AlphaTaurea or something.
[58:45.160 -> 58:48.480] I'm not really clear, but there's cars ahead of them that were out of pace order and they
[58:48.480 -> 58:49.480] couldn't overtake them.
[58:49.480 -> 58:50.480] There you go.
[58:50.480 -> 58:57.040] I think we're getting, we're getting, we're getting on there, but we got one more team
[58:57.040 -> 58:58.040] left to talk about.
[58:58.040 -> 58:59.040] Oh, do we?
[58:59.040 -> 59:00.040] Who we got to talk about?
[59:00.040 -> 59:01.040] Well, you know what?
[59:01.040 -> 59:04.960] Well, it's, it's, it's your random fandom team.
[59:04.960 -> 59:05.960] So you know what?
[59:05.960 -> 59:11.520] What we'll do is we'll leave them out and then I'll I'll cross check your report card.
[59:11.520 -> 59:12.520] How about that?
[59:12.520 -> 59:15.000] Thank you, please do.
[59:15.000 -> 59:21.080] Race results for Stappen, Alonzo, Gasly, Perez, signs anonymous P5 there as well.
[59:21.080 -> 59:25.040] Hamilton up to P6 after a pretty crappy qualifying.
[59:27.280 -> 59:27.920] We didn't talk about their strategy, actually.
[59:30.360 -> 59:30.840] Oh, we haven't put them on fucking roast, man.
[59:32.640 -> 59:35.120] Mercedes Mercedes. Yeah, we talked about their pace, but their strategy.
[59:35.120 -> 59:39.280] They were one of the teams that categorically did not.
[59:40.280 -> 59:43.040] They were just waiting the whole time they pit at the end of lap
[59:43.320 -> 59:48.640] three and at the end of lap 4 for Hamilton and Russell, respectively.
[59:48.640 -> 59:56.540] So pitting Russell at the end of lap 4 sends him from P2 on the track down to P14.
[59:56.540 -> 59:58.320] And that was his race over.
[59:58.320 -> 01:00:01.920] Then he only had 6 laps on that intermediate.
[01:00:01.920 -> 01:00:05.800] And then he pits and he comes out in 18.
[01:00:05.800 -> 01:00:10.720] He drives through Lawson, spends most of the race in 17th on hard.
[01:00:10.720 -> 01:00:16.440] He claws his way all the way back up to P7, then to get dumped on by people coming through
[01:00:16.440 -> 01:00:17.440] on new softs.
[01:00:17.440 -> 01:00:24.800] We have seen this so many times with Mercedes strategy and I'm not going to be too harsh
[01:00:24.800 -> 01:00:25.720] on them right because I couldn't
[01:00:25.720 -> 01:00:33.080] do the fucking job Jesus Christ but their strategy department or whatever seems to always
[01:00:33.080 -> 01:00:42.240] be reactive rather than proactive in that they will let someone else make a decision
[01:00:42.240 -> 01:00:45.200] and then react to that rather than sort of going,
[01:00:45.800 -> 01:00:46.980] no, fuck it. We're going to set the strategy.
[01:00:46.980 -> 01:00:48.920] We're going to be the first to do this or whatever.
[01:00:49.660 -> 01:00:55.720] And so many times it's caught them out where they've waited and it's bit them in
[01:00:55.720 -> 01:00:56.280] the ass.
[01:00:56.440 -> 01:01:02.720] And I think again, it's going back to when they didn't have to worry about things
[01:01:02.720 -> 01:01:04.520] like this because their car was so dominant.
[01:01:04.520 -> 01:01:05.080] They were like, we don't need to react. Uh, sorry. We don't have to worry about things like this because their car was so dominant.
[01:01:05.080 -> 01:01:06.080] They were like, we don't need to react.
[01:01:06.080 -> 01:01:07.080] Uh, sorry.
[01:01:07.080 -> 01:01:09.760] We don't need to be do any cover.
[01:01:09.760 -> 01:01:13.680] We've got to do is cover because the car is so good or whatever.
[01:01:13.680 -> 01:01:15.160] And we can just cruise it.
[01:01:15.160 -> 01:01:19.880] Whereas now they are in a sea of nowhere, bless them.
[01:01:19.880 -> 01:01:24.920] They need to be more sort of on the ball with the strategy calls.
[01:01:24.920 -> 01:01:28.400] And it's like I said earlier, it's if when your car's not good enough, it
[01:01:28.940 -> 01:01:31.020] highlights the weaknesses in your other areas.
[01:01:31.820 -> 01:01:35.000] And this is one of them where their strategy, I think the last time they had a
[01:01:35.000 -> 01:01:38.720] good strategy was, I'll say last time they had a good strategy, but the last
[01:01:38.720 -> 01:01:46.320] time I think was it, uh, Spain last year when they did something with George and it was like.
[01:01:46.320 -> 01:01:52.660] But at the end of the day, like there's those risks that you take the big risk, but like
[01:01:52.660 -> 01:01:56.760] you went out the most by being consistently on it.
[01:01:56.760 -> 01:02:01.760] You don't have to be at the point where you're doing Hail Marys, you know, so it's.
[01:02:01.760 -> 01:02:07.040] Yeah I don't I don't remember that. But yeah, so the long story short of that
[01:02:07.040 -> 01:02:15.700] is I mean, Hamilton starting quite far back, getting knocked out in Q2. He again lost out
[01:02:15.700 -> 01:02:20.920] from pitting late. Russell lost out in pitting late and they just didn't. There's another
[01:02:20.920 -> 01:02:27.280] team that did a really bad job of that as well, and we'll get back to them in a minute, but their race is pretty.
[01:02:27.280 -> 01:02:30.040] Reasonable, I think.
[01:02:30.040 -> 01:02:33.800] Hamilton had a couple of overtakes, so Hamilton was able to come through quite a few slower
[01:02:33.800 -> 01:02:34.800] cars.
[01:02:34.800 -> 01:02:38.120] It was the cars that weren't that much slower than them that he struggled to get past, and
[01:02:38.120 -> 01:02:42.360] I think they did have the pace to be up there, but were they going to be faster than Ferrari
[01:02:42.360 -> 01:02:43.360] and Aston?
[01:02:43.360 -> 01:02:44.360] I'm not sure.
[01:02:44.360 -> 01:02:48.260] I'm not sure about that, so yeah, that's that's the race.
[01:02:48.260 -> 01:02:49.260] Any other?
[01:02:49.260 -> 01:02:50.260] Ah.
[01:02:50.260 -> 01:02:55.420] Here we got stroll finishes out of the points.
[01:02:55.420 -> 01:02:59.260] Castri P9 Lawson comes on P13 ahead of Sunoda.
[01:02:59.260 -> 01:03:03.660] Sunoda, who has a 5 second penalty for causing a collision.
[01:03:03.660 -> 01:03:11.800] But yeah, so realistically, Sunoda would have been still behind Lawson.
[01:03:11.800 -> 01:03:14.800] So no, would he?
[01:03:14.800 -> 01:03:17.880] Yeah, I don't know.
[01:03:17.880 -> 01:03:23.680] I'm not reading too much into that because it was such a crazy race.
[01:03:23.680 -> 01:03:26.760] I think the fact that Liam finished is good enough.
[01:03:26.760 -> 01:03:29.000] And that was a great trial by fire for him, wasn't it?
[01:03:29.000 -> 01:03:34.000] It's like a super challenging race, lots of external factors, lots of changing conditions
[01:03:34.000 -> 01:03:36.440] and he brought it home.
[01:03:36.440 -> 01:03:37.440] Yeah.
[01:03:37.440 -> 01:03:38.440] Yeah.
[01:03:38.440 -> 01:03:39.440] We'll see.
[01:03:39.440 -> 01:03:41.760] We'll see how he goes with a full weekend of preparation in Monza.
[01:03:41.760 -> 01:03:42.760] Yeah.
[01:03:42.760 -> 01:03:43.760] And I hope he does well.
[01:03:43.760 -> 01:03:49.040] He won't because I suspect the AlphaTauri is going to be a fucking dog at Monza. But we'll see.
[01:03:49.680 -> 01:03:53.680] Well, since we've gone on for so long, we're quite deep. This is a deep episode.
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[01:05:36.400 -> 01:05:44.840] Why don't we move on to the next segment. You want some...
[01:05:41.920 -> 01:05:42.280] to the next segment.
[01:05:42.960 -> 01:05:47.040] You want some?
[01:05:48.000 -> 01:05:49.000] No, you don't want the air high production value.
[01:05:49.000 -> 01:05:49.720] Yeah, here we go.
[01:05:49.720 -> 01:05:50.560] It's only been a year.
[01:05:57.160 -> 01:05:58.240] Random.
[01:06:03.480 -> 01:06:08.480] Oh, we're so biased, that's why we're going to give you a report card on our favorite teams.
[01:06:08.480 -> 01:06:11.800] Dan, why don't you go first? Because I was chomping at the bit. I was like, I'm not going
[01:06:11.800 -> 01:06:14.880] to give the report card on them, but talk to me about it.
[01:06:14.880 -> 01:06:20.320] Right. So they finished P7 and P9, right? So they got some points. Hooray. But the reality
[01:06:20.320 -> 01:06:24.280] is they could have got a lot more if they made some better strategy calls. Right. And
[01:06:24.280 -> 01:06:29.460] we can go into that because obviously you got the data but I will say the good news
[01:06:29.460 -> 01:06:34.100] McLaren fans is that the car did look quite competitive this weekend you know alright
[01:06:34.100 -> 01:06:40.580] Lando qualified P2 and perhaps you know maybe he should have finished on the podium right
[01:06:40.580 -> 01:06:41.580] but look.
[01:06:41.580 -> 01:06:42.580] Should have done.
[01:06:42.580 -> 01:06:48.620] Yeah I mean this was and it's similar to going back to what we were talking about, like
[01:06:48.620 -> 01:06:52.780] where they made some bad calls with strategy and it's, they had to play catch
[01:06:52.780 -> 01:06:59.460] up for the rest of the, uh, uh, race and fair play to, um, Lando and Oscar.
[01:06:59.460 -> 01:07:02.180] I think they did well to recover to P7 and P9.
[01:07:02.980 -> 01:07:06.560] Um, but yeah, the strategy just, just kind of fuck them over with
[01:07:06.560 -> 01:07:07.360] their decisions they made.
[01:07:07.360 -> 01:07:12.900] They, they decided to leave Oscar on the dries at the start and Lando's
[01:07:12.900 -> 01:07:14.480] was just a bit all over the place.
[01:07:14.480 -> 01:07:17.660] So yeah, strategy wise, they let themselves down.
[01:07:19.580 -> 01:07:22.760] So yeah, I give them a C.
[01:07:23.580 -> 01:07:24.000] Yeah.
[01:07:24.400 -> 01:07:25.600] And the car, the car looks good. I feel like you C. Yeah. The car looks good.
[01:07:25.600 -> 01:07:27.100] I feel like you nailed it there.
[01:07:27.100 -> 01:07:31.900] It's the operationally they got kind of screwed and they ended up like in
[01:07:31.900 -> 01:07:33.500] traffic half the time.
[01:07:33.500 -> 01:07:35.000] So it's like the same as Mercedes.
[01:07:35.000 -> 01:07:38.200] Like if you end up back in that gaggle, you're not really doing much.
[01:07:38.200 -> 01:07:41.500] The fact they pit north so late, that screwed them over.
[01:07:42.600 -> 01:07:50.360] I mean, Piastri ends up losing out a little bit less, but Piastri also stops at the VSC
[01:07:50.360 -> 01:07:54.480] at lap 16 as well, which then sends him back.
[01:07:54.480 -> 01:07:58.120] Piastri's up to P8, so it's chaos.
[01:07:58.120 -> 01:08:04.080] It seems like they really, yeah, the car looked good in qualifying though, so I'm happy for
[01:08:04.080 -> 01:08:06.160] him. Yeah, the car looked good in qualifying though, so I'm happy for them.
[01:08:12.640 -> 01:08:17.040] Yeah, it's just operationally they sort of bluffed that one up. But look, considering where they were at the start of the year, they probably would have quite happily taken a P7 and P9.
[01:08:17.760 -> 01:08:22.080] Yeah, yeah, exactly. But realistically, now they need to be fighting for podiums. They should be
[01:08:22.080 -> 01:08:26.300] on that second and third step. Yeah, they need to, they need to nail that bit down.
[01:08:26.460 -> 01:08:28.900] So we'll see how they go in Monza because obviously.
[01:08:29.360 -> 01:08:31.220] They've had some success recently in Monza.
[01:08:32.000 -> 01:08:36.260] We'll see how that goes, but yeah, I'll give them a C and really the only, the
[01:08:36.260 -> 01:08:40.100] only issue is really is the operational side, let them down this weekend, which is a shame.
[01:08:40.800 -> 01:08:41.100] Yeah.
[01:08:41.240 -> 01:08:51.440] I think maybe somebody mentioned in the live stream chat is maybe they were a little bit thrown off by the fact that Lando was all the way up to P1 at one point, but
[01:08:51.440 -> 01:08:57.680] I don't know, like realistically, we saw a lot of the drivers making the calls.
[01:08:57.680 -> 01:09:00.080] And the driver is not particularly too fast either.
[01:09:00.080 -> 01:09:03.560] Like, yeah, we can stay out and it's like, hi, by the way, you're losing 20 seconds a
[01:09:03.560 -> 01:09:04.560] lap.
[01:09:04.560 -> 01:09:05.520] We should probably have stopped you a lap ago.
[01:09:05.560 -> 01:09:06.560] And, but it's too late.
[01:09:06.560 -> 01:09:09.120] So we'll just let it bleed out a little bit more before we.
[01:09:09.120 -> 01:09:09.600] Yeah.
[01:09:10.360 -> 01:09:14.200] Lando and his engineer had some, um, interesting messages going on.
[01:09:15.000 -> 01:09:18.720] Uh, I think I can't, I can't remember which way around it was, but they were,
[01:09:18.720 -> 01:09:23.480] they were talking about staying out on the dries and, uh, he, I think Lando was
[01:09:23.480 -> 01:09:25.580] like, yeah, no, I'm fine to stay out on the dries and
[01:09:25.580 -> 01:09:28.820] then immediately gets overtaken by someone on the inters or something like that.
[01:09:28.820 -> 01:09:33.420] It's just like, it was a bit, yeah, they need to sort of sort that out.
[01:09:34.940 -> 01:09:35.580] Fair enough.
[01:09:36.060 -> 01:09:36.540] Fair enough.
[01:09:36.580 -> 01:09:37.780] I think that's a fair assessment.
[01:09:37.940 -> 01:09:47.840] Um, Aston this weekend, Alonso qualified P5, Stroll race Alonzo P2 stroll P11.
[01:09:50.400 -> 01:09:54.280] I mean, if we go back, I didn't really even in my report on buy me a copy.
[01:09:54.280 -> 01:09:59.040] I didn't really do too much about the Aston's because Alonzo I kind of compared him to everybody else, but.
[01:10:01.040 -> 01:10:06.080] Yeah, Lance just kind of back at the back for most of the race around 18, 19, and
[01:10:06.080 -> 01:10:11.440] then comes back up through, but Lance got it in him.
[01:10:13.480 -> 01:10:14.200] I don't know.
[01:10:15.120 -> 01:10:15.840] I don't know.
[01:10:17.720 -> 01:10:23.800] It's, I'll say this because last time I said this, Lance had a really good race.
[01:10:23.880 -> 01:10:30.440] And I, and that's when I said that when they are fighting for if they ever get to position where they're
[01:10:30.440 -> 01:10:35.200] fighting for a Constructors Championship is Lance the guy that you want in your car?
[01:10:35.200 -> 01:10:37.720] And I said no probably not.
[01:10:37.720 -> 01:10:41.260] And then immediately Lance went out and beat Alonso in the next race.
[01:10:41.260 -> 01:10:44.800] So who knows maybe in Monza Lance is now going to beat Alonso.
[01:10:44.800 -> 01:10:47.000] Shit talk him for a minute, get him G'd up.
[01:10:47.000 -> 01:10:50.000] Yeah, I'm going to shit talk Stroll in the hope that it perks him up a bit.
[01:10:50.000 -> 01:10:54.000] But, I don't know, if this carries on,
[01:10:54.000 -> 01:10:57.000] half of Stroll's got to have a conversation, I think.
[01:10:57.000 -> 01:11:01.000] Yeah, I think you're not wrong.
[01:11:01.000 -> 01:11:07.760] But yeah, I don't know, I want to give them an A, but if Lance
[01:11:07.760 -> 01:11:15.680] isn't pulling that, like the best they're getting is a B, but Alonzo had a mega drive
[01:11:15.680 -> 01:11:20.720] and like in situations and conditions like that, the wily old fox is going to come out on top,
[01:11:20.720 -> 01:11:26.240] isn't he? Honestly, and also their strategy, they had really fucking good calls.
[01:11:26.240 -> 01:11:28.160] The him and his engineer, Chris,
[01:11:28.160 -> 01:11:29.280] who was the performance engineer
[01:11:29.280 -> 01:11:31.320] that replaced me when I left for Cindia.
[01:11:31.320 -> 01:11:33.840] Chris was performance engineer on Checo's car,
[01:11:33.840 -> 01:11:35.520] and then now Chris is race engineer.
[01:11:35.520 -> 01:11:38.160] He's fucking good, I'll say that.
[01:11:38.160 -> 01:11:41.480] Like he gets it, his communication's super sharp,
[01:11:41.480 -> 01:11:43.720] super nice dude, and like, you know,
[01:11:43.720 -> 01:11:47.460] he's rocking up working with the Dark Lord himself and just doing
[01:11:47.460 -> 01:11:48.460] an awesome job.
[01:11:48.460 -> 01:11:49.900] They've got great communication.
[01:11:49.900 -> 01:11:54.340] The team seems to do a pretty damn good job right now.
[01:11:54.340 -> 01:11:56.340] And it's really good to see that.
[01:11:56.340 -> 01:11:57.340] Really good to see that.
[01:11:57.340 -> 01:11:59.620] They were, they were a little bit late with Alonso coming in.
[01:11:59.620 -> 01:12:04.980] They were early-ish with him going back onto the softs at the beginning.
[01:12:04.980 -> 01:12:05.000] And Alonso was just quick and kept his nose clean as one does. Yeah. or early-ish with him going back onto the softs at the beginning.
[01:12:05.000 -> 01:12:08.680] And Alonzo was just quick and kept his nose clean, as one does.
[01:12:08.680 -> 01:12:09.680] Yeah.
[01:12:09.680 -> 01:12:11.680] Yeah, nailed it.
[01:12:11.680 -> 01:12:14.480] But yeah, what do we got?
[01:12:14.480 -> 01:12:17.800] Should we move on to our next little segment here?
[01:12:17.800 -> 01:12:18.800] Hit it.
[01:12:18.800 -> 01:12:19.800] Fraud Watch.
[01:12:19.800 -> 01:12:20.800] Fraud Watch.
[01:12:20.800 -> 01:12:35.880] So, Fraud Watch is where we put somebody on blast every weekend and we've had DeVries
[01:12:35.880 -> 01:12:36.880] on there a lot.
[01:12:36.880 -> 01:12:40.460] We've got Ferrari and McLaren on there a lot.
[01:12:40.460 -> 01:12:44.160] Last weekend, the Sprint Race was on and Signs was on for me.
[01:12:44.160 -> 01:12:49.200] But Dan, who have you nominated for Fraud Watch this weekend?
[01:12:49.200 -> 01:12:53.200] There was a lot of viable candidates for Fraud Watch this weekend.
[01:12:53.200 -> 01:12:57.900] However, I'm going slightly left field and I'm giving it to the F1
[01:12:57.900 -> 01:13:03.200] social media and graphics team who post race put out a graphic
[01:13:03.200 -> 01:13:06.000] saying that Fernando Alonso has set a new record
[01:13:06.000 -> 01:13:09.600] for longest time between first and last career podiums.
[01:13:10.180 -> 01:13:13.860] Now they put out a graphic saying it was 7,399 days.
[01:13:14.940 -> 01:13:19.680] Uh, unfortunately, uh, they got absolutely battered by Twitter community notes who
[01:13:19.680 -> 01:13:29.740] quickly pointed out actually it's 7,462 days and, uh, the 7,399 days they put out was actually referring to the previous
[01:13:29.740 -> 01:13:31.340] record holder, which was Michael Schumacher.
[01:13:31.340 -> 01:13:32.260] So well done F1.
[01:13:32.880 -> 01:13:33.840] Well, you know what?
[01:13:33.840 -> 01:13:35.200] They got kind of close with it.
[01:13:35.240 -> 01:13:36.680] So yeah, yeah.
[01:13:36.680 -> 01:13:37.160] Fair enough.
[01:13:37.200 -> 01:13:37.400] Yeah.
[01:13:37.480 -> 01:13:38.080] You tried.
[01:13:39.160 -> 01:13:42.880] Um, I'm going to put Mercedes McLaren's pit walls this weekend.
[01:13:43.160 -> 01:13:47.160] If I had to pick one, I would say Mercedes.
[01:13:48.400 -> 01:13:52.320] Because at least they left Piastri out and that was least worse than
[01:13:52.320 -> 01:13:53.760] pitting on lap four and five.
[01:13:53.760 -> 01:13:58.400] So yeah, I just coulda, coulda, shoulda, woulda.
[01:13:59.200 -> 01:14:05.600] And then Alonso's taking some more points off him, but yeah, fair, fair enough.
[01:14:06.400 -> 01:14:10.640] But that'll bring us to our next segment very nicely, which is.
[01:14:11.880 -> 01:14:13.880] Oh, you did lose a good boy.
[01:14:13.920 -> 01:14:16.040] I am. I'm a good boy.
[01:14:16.040 -> 01:14:18.120] And if anybody noticed, I did tweak the levels for that
[01:14:18.120 -> 01:14:22.480] because that last last little clip was a little bit aggressive for me.
[01:14:22.640 -> 01:14:27.360] But anyway, I do have a good voice where we put, give them a little bit of gas, a little bit
[01:14:27.360 -> 01:14:30.580] of props for the weekend because they did a damn good job.
[01:14:30.980 -> 01:14:33.620] Dan, who's getting your good boy award this weekend?
[01:14:34.380 -> 01:14:34.760] Right.
[01:14:35.580 -> 01:14:37.440] In the notes I've put Verstappen down.
[01:14:38.180 -> 01:14:39.440] Oh, he's going to mix it up.
[01:14:39.540 -> 01:14:39.860] Yeah.
[01:14:39.860 -> 01:14:44.280] For doing, you know, he did a great job and, and, you know, did, did a good
[01:14:44.280 -> 01:14:51.040] job to pass everyone totally and match Sebastian Vettel's nine races.
[01:14:51.040 -> 01:14:53.200] Sebastian Vettel.
[01:14:53.760 -> 01:14:58.900] However, now we've had an hour and 10 minutes somehow on this
[01:14:58.900 -> 01:15:00.340] podcast to think about it.
[01:15:01.960 -> 01:15:03.100] I think I'm going to give it to Gasly.
[01:15:04.480 -> 01:15:04.980] Okay.
[01:15:06.680 -> 01:15:08.840] Yeah. I'm going to go Gasly for my good
[01:15:08.840 -> 01:15:10.640] boy for shit housing that podium.
[01:15:10.640 -> 01:15:12.080] Fair enough, and then next week
[01:15:12.080 -> 01:15:14.040] what I'll probably do is give it to
[01:15:14.040 -> 01:15:15.360] Verstappen when he inevitably beats
[01:15:15.360 -> 01:15:16.760] the record and gets 10 wins.
[01:15:18.920 -> 01:15:21.160] Fair enough, you know what I'm
[01:15:21.160 -> 01:15:23.480] going with Lawson this weekend.
[01:15:23.480 -> 01:15:26.640] Stayed out of trouble, not particularly eventful,
[01:15:26.640 -> 01:15:28.360] but he did exactly what he needed to do
[01:15:28.360 -> 01:15:33.120] on his Formula One race Grand Prix debut.
[01:15:33.120 -> 01:15:35.240] Alex Albon's another great shout for that,
[01:15:35.240 -> 01:15:37.480] but I've given Albon a couple this season.
[01:15:37.480 -> 01:15:40.500] I think Albon's got two from me so far.
[01:15:42.160 -> 01:15:43.800] You haven't gassed up Albon this season,
[01:15:43.800 -> 01:15:45.320] you son of a bitch. No, you haven't gassed up Albon this season, you son of a bitch.
[01:15:45.320 -> 01:15:46.320] No, you haven't.
[01:15:46.320 -> 01:15:50.080] I'm saving it for when he wins in Monza.
[01:15:50.080 -> 01:15:51.080] Fair enough.
[01:15:51.080 -> 01:15:53.440] And we'll get to that in a minute.
[01:15:53.440 -> 01:15:55.020] You know what, Dan?
[01:15:55.020 -> 01:15:56.460] That's a hot segue.
[01:15:56.460 -> 01:16:01.100] Let's talk about before we're a minute, we're an hour and 33 into this podcast and you guys
[01:16:01.100 -> 01:16:04.440] listening, we appreciate you guys.
[01:16:04.440 -> 01:16:06.300] Huge turnout on the live stream here as well,
[01:16:06.300 -> 01:16:08.700] but let's start rounding this episode off
[01:16:08.700 -> 01:16:10.800] and get into the Monza preview.
[01:16:10.800 -> 01:16:11.600] What do we got?
[01:16:12.200 -> 01:16:13.500] Good news, everyone.
[01:16:13.500 -> 01:16:17.300] The alternative tire allocation is making a return for Monza.
[01:16:18.200 -> 01:16:19.300] Can you remind me what that is?
[01:16:19.300 -> 01:16:22.600] Because I'm like there was the changes to the sprint weekend
[01:16:22.600 -> 01:16:23.800] tire allocation.
[01:16:25.560 -> 01:16:31.720] Yeah, this is the one where you have hards in Q1, mediums in Q2, softs in Q3.
[01:16:31.760 -> 01:16:35.960] Now we saw, I can't remember, such a fraudulent podcast.
[01:16:35.960 -> 01:16:37.520] I can't even remember the last time we had this.
[01:16:37.520 -> 01:16:40.040] We've had this once already this season and it caused a bit of chaos.
[01:16:41.040 -> 01:16:46.320] Um, because it made people run out of softs and things like that for the actual race.
[01:16:46.320 -> 01:16:48.440] Lando was one of the victims of that.
[01:16:49.600 -> 01:16:50.920] Yeah, and then it helped me out.
[01:16:50.920 -> 01:16:52.080] I can't remember what race it was.
[01:16:52.080 -> 01:16:53.320] It was Baku, wasn't it?
[01:16:54.680 -> 01:16:55.160] Maybe.
[01:16:55.640 -> 01:16:56.200] Yeah, I think it was.
[01:16:56.200 -> 01:17:00.200] I think it was Baku where it was like one of the hungry, hungry, something.
[01:17:00.200 -> 01:17:01.000] Fuck knows, man.
[01:17:02.040 -> 01:17:03.800] Yeah, Baku was a sprint.
[01:17:04.120 -> 01:17:05.000] Baku was a sprint weekend. But like some of these changes are a little bit weird and I'm like not interested in them. Sorry. Yeah. Fuck knows, man. Yeah. Back to the sprint.
[01:17:05.000 -> 01:17:07.520] Back to was the sprint weekend, but like some of these changes are a little bit weird and
[01:17:07.520 -> 01:17:12.840] I'm like not interested in them, so I don't pay attention to them, but he was out of softs
[01:17:12.840 -> 01:17:13.840] and hungry.
[01:17:13.840 -> 01:17:14.840] Yeah.
[01:17:14.840 -> 01:17:19.800] So yeah, we got the alternative tire allocation is back, but more importantly, we're going
[01:17:19.800 -> 01:17:23.200] to find out if the Monza curse gets broken.
[01:17:23.200 -> 01:17:24.200] Can you elaborate?
[01:17:24.200 -> 01:17:28.840] Yeah. Last year's, this has happened now for the last few years, previous year's winner
[01:17:28.840 -> 01:17:31.040] has DNF'd in the race.
[01:17:31.040 -> 01:17:32.800] Ooh, who won last year?
[01:17:32.800 -> 01:17:34.760] Max Verstappen won last year.
[01:17:34.760 -> 01:17:38.440] This could be, we're going to find out.
[01:17:38.440 -> 01:17:40.560] This is the more exciting thing that's happening.
[01:17:40.560 -> 01:17:43.480] We're going to find out if the curse is real.
[01:17:43.480 -> 01:17:47.520] So, we could be coming up for a Maxwell-Staffan DNF in Monza.
[01:17:48.320 -> 01:17:53.120] Imagine, can you imagine if that would be on the F1's wackiest rumors?
[01:17:53.440 -> 01:17:55.320] Yeah, that's not going on Fraud Files.
[01:17:56.520 -> 01:17:57.280] We haven't had one of those.
[01:17:57.280 -> 01:17:59.800] We'll have to bring a Fraud Files segment back in at some point.
[01:18:00.000 -> 01:18:04.440] And if you're in the chat right now, or if you're watching this, or you're on
[01:18:04.440 -> 01:18:05.120] Twitter or on the YouTube comment section, or if you're watching this or you're on Twitter
[01:18:05.120 -> 01:18:07.480] or on the YouTube comment section,
[01:18:07.480 -> 01:18:09.880] what's your most recent Formula
[01:18:09.880 -> 01:18:12.800] One conspiracy theory that you'd like us to
[01:18:12.800 -> 01:18:15.520] debunk and next time we do a fraud files.
[01:18:15.520 -> 01:18:19.160] But yeah, see exactly fuel.
[01:18:19.160 -> 01:18:21.000] Yeah, we'll just pour some kerosene on it.
[01:18:21.000 -> 01:18:23.040] But speaking of kerosene,
[01:18:23.040 -> 01:18:24.080] who's going to be hot this weekend?
[01:18:24.080 -> 01:18:25.600] Is Alex Albarn
[01:18:25.600 -> 01:18:28.480] gonna podium in that slippery son of a bitch in the Williams?
[01:18:30.880 -> 01:18:34.160] Who knows? You know, Williams have gone well at Monza in the past, so
[01:18:34.720 -> 01:18:39.520] that is one team to keep an eye on for sure. But speaking of teams to keep an eye on,
[01:18:39.520 -> 01:18:44.000] why don't we do the random fandom as my son absolutely has a breakdown in the background?
[01:18:45.120 -> 01:18:46.120] Yeah, All right.
[01:18:46.120 -> 01:18:49.280] So roll for me first this weekend, we're going to pick our teams and we're going to do our
[01:18:49.280 -> 01:18:51.600] report card on this weekend.
[01:18:51.600 -> 01:18:59.080] But I think realistically, slippy cars that we like are Red Bull can go well.
[01:18:59.080 -> 01:19:02.840] I wonder if McLaren is going to bring a low downforce rear wing because they didn't really
[01:19:02.840 -> 01:19:05.840] have one in Spotted, but it's like, ah, I was in the same boat.
[01:19:05.840 -> 01:19:08.640] I was like, oh, wet setup, wet setup.
[01:19:08.640 -> 01:19:10.680] But it was like, no, they just don't have any less drag.
[01:19:12.140 -> 01:19:13.740] Congratulations, you are Alfa Romeo.
[01:19:14.480 -> 01:19:15.640] Jesus Christ.
[01:19:16.000 -> 01:19:18.340] Honestly, I don't want to do next week.
[01:19:19.140 -> 01:19:21.700] OK, so I'm going to give a report card next week on Alfa Romeo.
[01:19:21.700 -> 01:19:22.360] Dan, who you doing?
[01:19:28.720 -> 01:19:29.680] Oh, I did not make this up. This has not been rigged.
[01:19:30.080 -> 01:19:30.960] I've got Ferrari.
[01:19:31.560 -> 01:19:32.160] Hmm.
[01:19:32.520 -> 01:19:33.040] Sure.
[01:19:33.200 -> 01:19:34.400] Ferrari and Monza.
[01:19:35.360 -> 01:19:35.840] Sure.
[01:19:37.240 -> 01:19:40.400] I am becoming an honorary member of the Tifosi.
[01:19:41.400 -> 01:19:41.720] Okay.
[01:19:42.160 -> 01:19:46.080] I got called out for that the other day by saying the Tifosi.
[01:19:46.080 -> 01:19:49.800] Apparently the is already implied in Tifosi.
[01:19:49.800 -> 01:19:51.400] You just say I'm Tifosi.
[01:19:51.400 -> 01:19:53.760] Apparently you don't say I'm the Tifosi or whatever.
[01:19:53.760 -> 01:19:54.760] Oh my god.
[01:19:54.760 -> 01:19:57.800] Elliot is not happy about this revelation.
[01:19:57.800 -> 01:19:58.880] Son of a...
[01:19:58.880 -> 01:20:01.280] These articles, we need the articles.
[01:20:01.280 -> 01:20:02.280] But yeah.
[01:20:02.280 -> 01:20:04.120] So there you go.
[01:20:04.120 -> 01:20:05.200] That's this week's episode.
[01:20:05.200 -> 01:20:11.800] I will possibly be live on Sunday for a race watch along on break F1 on YouTube.
[01:20:12.300 -> 01:20:15.200] The engine breaking podcast will be back next Monday or Tuesday.
[01:20:15.200 -> 01:20:19.100] We will let you guys know and what we will try to do is keep an eye either on
[01:20:19.400 -> 01:20:23.400] the engine breaking discord or if you're in my discord or on the stream segment
[01:20:23.400 -> 01:20:27.120] on YouTube, I will push those live and we will
[01:20:28.000 -> 01:20:31.400] We will see you guys soon. So make sure support your local butchers
[01:20:31.400 -> 01:20:37.160] I'm gonna have fun and drink a lot of Bavarian beers this weekend. And uh, yeah
[01:20:38.360 -> 01:20:40.600] Thanks for a year. Here's to the next year
[01:20:41.520 -> 01:20:50.960] Maybe eventually we'll get our shit together. Press the right buttons and get our stats correct, but probably not. So until then, fuck off.