Ep15 - Garbage In, Garbage Out

On this episode, we have a chat about the liveries released so far and give some of our own experiences at testing to set expectations, finishing off with some wild listener submitted takes for the season.

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[00:00.000 -> 00:08.000] You're listening to the most fraudulent F1 podcast with Dan, aka EngineNode11.
[00:08.000 -> 00:12.000] I secretly moonlight and smell with Marco at race weekends.
[00:12.000 -> 00:14.000] And Blake, aka Brake.
[00:14.000 -> 00:17.000] Echo chambers of farts and idiots on Twitter after races.
[00:17.000 -> 00:20.000] It's the engine breaking F1 podcast.
[00:30.000 -> 00:35.880] Hello, Blake's been sacked from doing the intro duty for this episode, so it's me. Hi, I'm Dan, and you may know me from the internet as Engine Mode 11, and my beautiful
[00:35.880 -> 00:39.040] assistant here, he is...
[00:39.040 -> 00:44.320] My name is Blake, and yeah, we're a couple of frauds doing a Formula One podcast, and
[00:44.320 -> 00:45.920] this is our first full season, we're a couple of frauds doing a Formula One podcast, and this is our first full season.
[00:45.920 -> 00:47.000] We're approaching winter testing.
[00:47.000 -> 00:48.000] So my name is Blake.
[00:48.000 -> 00:51.960] I used to be a performance engineer and a simulator performance engineer at Red Bull
[00:51.960 -> 00:53.000] and for Cyndia.
[00:53.000 -> 00:54.400] So a little bit of track side stuff.
[00:54.400 -> 00:57.200] We'll get into some cool track side stuff for winter testing.
[00:57.200 -> 01:01.000] But Dan, you hung around Red Bull for as long as they'd let you as well, didn't you?
[01:01.000 -> 01:02.000] I did.
[01:02.000 -> 01:10.760] Yeah, I had a bit of a weird sort of career so I started off doing like systems support in finance which wasn't very exciting. I
[01:10.760 -> 01:17.760] see where this is going, cost cap. No no no, this is completely unrelated to the cost cap.
[01:17.760 -> 01:23.080] And then I ended up at Red Bull Racing for six years as a senior systems
[01:23.080 -> 01:27.920] engineer and then I left and they started winning championships
[01:27.920 -> 01:32.560] again so if any Red Bull fans are listening for the first time you're very welcome. Yeah thank
[01:32.560 -> 01:39.120] god they didn't have you on the finance IT systems, Jesus they would have been absolutely ruined.
[01:39.120 -> 01:45.540] Absolutely. But we've got an interesting episode coming up tonight, so we've got a couple of bits of
[01:45.540 -> 01:46.640] breaking news today.
[01:46.640 -> 01:48.680] Some Lance Strolls had a couple shenanigans.
[01:48.680 -> 01:51.840] There's a couple of talking points from the last few reveals.
[01:51.840 -> 01:55.280] We did the first couple, but I don't think we'll spend too much time on that.
[01:55.280 -> 01:58.760] Probably even announced some of the stuff to do with the tires for the season and some
[01:58.760 -> 02:03.880] new rules and some new compounds, which if you're new or even if you've been around for
[02:03.880 -> 02:05.600] a while and you're confused, don't worry, we've got you.
[02:05.600 -> 02:09.800] And we'll kind of, Dan and I have spent a little bit of time in different capacities at testing,
[02:09.800 -> 02:15.000] and we'll just kind of talk about what you can expect from testing and what you can't expect from testing.
[02:15.000 -> 02:18.600] If you want to be disappointed, that's okay. I will be too.
[02:18.600 -> 02:23.800] And also, we've got a little interaction with you guys on the internets,
[02:23.800 -> 02:27.220] and Dan's had some some hot takes.
[02:27.220 -> 02:33.060] And you guys fall presented your hot takes and your livery of the year for launches.
[02:33.060 -> 02:34.900] So let's get into it.
[02:34.900 -> 02:37.740] So imagine should we get into it now?
[02:37.740 -> 02:38.740] It's time.
[02:38.740 -> 02:39.740] Why not?
[02:39.740 -> 02:41.460] Let's let's go straight in.
[02:41.460 -> 02:42.740] No kissing.
[02:42.740 -> 02:50.040] Speaking of kissing, Mr. Lance Stroll might have had a little incident in Spain, a little bit of salsa
[02:50.040 -> 02:55.120] dancing, maybe with a car on a bicycle or just maybe solo, solo dancing.
[02:55.120 -> 02:59.960] It's not really clear, but Lance Stroll is going to miss winter testing.
[03:00.520 -> 03:07.520] Yeah, I think he shit housed his way into the hospital for a little visit.
[03:07.520 -> 03:12.440] I think apparently it was like a stationary exercise bike is what I'm hearing.
[03:12.440 -> 03:17.320] So I think maybe Alonzo may have been in there before, loosening a few bolts or something.
[03:17.320 -> 03:18.320] Crack!
[03:18.320 -> 03:19.320] Oh, he's got that.
[03:19.320 -> 03:24.080] He's the dude outside in the waist, like the long jacket with the chrome pipe under the
[03:24.080 -> 03:26.360] sleeve or something, man.
[03:26.560 -> 03:26.880] Yeah.
[03:26.920 -> 03:27.880] But like, imagine.
[03:28.080 -> 03:33.120] Well, so here's, so we, we got the announcement a few hours ago, like from the Aston
[03:33.120 -> 03:38.160] Martin account saying Lance has had a bit of a incident and he won't be taking part in
[03:38.160 -> 03:38.720] the test.
[03:38.760 -> 03:44.600] But, uh, there's another sort of gossip Twitter account is saying that apparently
[03:44.960 -> 03:45.960] they've seen Lance Stroll
[03:45.960 -> 03:48.280] leaving a Spanish hospital with his arm in a cast.
[03:48.280 -> 03:51.880] So we might, might not have him for the first race.
[03:52.200 -> 03:53.920] Fraudulence, fraudulence.
[03:53.960 -> 03:58.280] Imagine your dad buys you a Formula One team and you fall off a bike for, and that
[03:58.280 -> 04:00.000] sucks, this kind of stuff's happening.
[04:00.000 -> 04:03.600] And I think a lot of the, the paddock you'll see in the past, a lot of the guys
[04:03.600 -> 04:05.880] are into cycling and triathlons and stuff too.
[04:05.880 -> 04:07.800] Jensen, Jensen was huge into his triathlons.
[04:07.800 -> 04:11.920] I remember once in the paddock, there was something happening on the track and now all
[04:11.920 -> 04:15.640] the drivers, a lot of the drivers and personnel in the paddock, when you're done with your
[04:15.640 -> 04:18.360] work on like Thursday night, you'll go run.
[04:18.360 -> 04:21.080] I can't remember, I think it was in Austria one year.
[04:21.080 -> 04:23.760] There was after track activities.
[04:23.760 -> 04:27.080] And so Jensen's got a triathlon and he's doing laps up and down
[04:27.080 -> 04:28.360] the pack to get his running in.
[04:28.360 -> 04:31.040] I was like, not sure how to feel about this.
[04:31.040 -> 04:33.600] This dude's dedicated, but anyway, a lot of the guys,
[04:33.880 -> 04:38.080] Did you ever see the website where everyone used to stick their times up online?
[04:38.240 -> 04:39.120] Is that still going?
[04:39.480 -> 04:42.120] No, I think Bernie sacked it off and now it might be back.
[04:42.680 -> 04:45.920] So basically all the, all the staff in the paddock had access to a website.
[04:45.920 -> 04:47.440] And if you ran the track, you would,
[04:47.440 -> 04:51.360] you'd upload your time from your Garmin and yeah.
[04:51.360 -> 04:52.880] And you'd see, yeah, but it was just like a,
[04:52.880 -> 04:54.400] it was just like a little, little banter.
[04:54.400 -> 04:55.240] Like people would just put in,
[04:55.240 -> 04:57.520] and there's some pretty fast people in the paddock.
[04:57.520 -> 04:58.520] A couple of,
[04:58.520 -> 04:59.640] Oh yeah, it's ridiculous.
[04:59.640 -> 05:01.920] Iron men and iron women athletes as well.
[05:01.920 -> 05:02.760] A bunch of lunatics.
[05:02.760 -> 05:04.920] I, I did it once.
[05:04.920 -> 05:10.400] So I ran Barcelona. I can't remember what year it was, but if anyone
[05:10.400 -> 05:13.980] knows me and has seen me, we'll tell you I'm not the running sort of type of guy.
[05:13.980 -> 05:14.280] Right.
[05:14.280 -> 05:15.360] I'm powerfully built.
[05:15.400 -> 05:16.680] Let's say, yeah.
[05:17.300 -> 05:17.700] Christ.
[05:17.700 -> 05:21.280] I thought I was going to die just by like the back straight, let alone
[05:21.320 -> 05:24.600] anywhere near the front again.
[05:25.000 -> 05:25.800] Never again.
[05:26.200 -> 05:26.740] It's good though.
[05:26.740 -> 05:27.020] It's good.
[05:27.020 -> 05:30.400] Cause you're trapped in the caravan with a bunch of people for 20 plus weeks a year.
[05:30.400 -> 05:34.200] If you're doing it full time or even, even a weekend, you know, a full week trip from
[05:34.280 -> 05:36.080] including set up for you probably an hour.
[05:36.440 -> 05:36.920] It's enough.
[05:36.920 -> 05:39.760] It's like, I need some space because this truck smells like farts.
[05:39.760 -> 05:40.360] I got to get out of it.
[05:40.360 -> 05:46.100] But so regarding Lance, it looks like the reserve driver is possibly
[05:46.100 -> 05:51.580] going to be Van Dorn or drug of itch, but Van Dorn has got the formula E this weekend
[05:51.580 -> 05:58.040] in South Africa, so that takes him out of the winter testing. So there's drug of itch
[05:58.040 -> 06:05.440] and what if we saw Seb come back? Just for a race he, he's driven that car quite recently.
[06:05.440 -> 06:08.240] Drogovic, he did a test last season with,
[06:10.000 -> 06:11.280] it's been ages ago.
[06:11.280 -> 06:12.600] Yeah.
[06:12.600 -> 06:15.100] For testing, I think Alonzo will just do three days
[06:15.100 -> 06:16.520] because what we've got is three days now.
[06:16.520 -> 06:20.240] So he could probably just power three days.
[06:20.240 -> 06:21.480] Yeah.
[06:21.480 -> 06:23.920] Mick Schumacher, maybe.
[06:23.920 -> 06:27.520] Yeah, but he's, he's got to deal with, he's got to deal with McLaren as well as Mercedes.
[06:27.520 -> 06:28.480] So that's the classic.
[06:28.840 -> 06:30.360] You saw it last year with DeVries.
[06:30.560 -> 06:33.960] Like they literally Mercedes put him in every single car they could to get him
[06:33.960 -> 06:34.520] seat time.
[06:34.920 -> 06:36.720] Um, and then they've let him go to Alpha Tower.
[06:37.000 -> 06:40.360] Yeah, I think that's like a Mercedes P you sort of deal there, isn't it?
[06:40.360 -> 06:42.880] So they're available to all the P Mercedes P.
[06:42.880 -> 06:49.600] You think that's then that's that's usually a perk that they've got with that. Like, yeah. But also this same thing
[06:49.600 -> 06:54.240] happened to Alonso in 2021. I think he had a cycling accident and had like jaw surgery.
[06:54.240 -> 06:55.440] So this isn't the first time.
[06:56.480 -> 07:00.800] No. And taking a step back to what I previously just said, right, here's what I want to happen.
[07:01.440 -> 07:01.760] Okay.
[07:01.760 -> 07:04.560] I want Mick Schumacher to go into the Aston.
[07:07.320 -> 07:14.200] Yeah. And I want him to podium on his first race and then I want the cameras to immediately cut to Hulkenberg and just
[07:14.240 -> 07:15.200] see his reaction.
[07:17.840 -> 07:18.800] Who hurt you, dude?
[07:19.440 -> 07:20.160] Who hurt you?
[07:21.000 -> 07:22.480] That's, that's what we're going for.
[07:23.720 -> 07:31.880] I love that. So that's a little that's that's that's something that drive to survive would probably need
[07:31.880 -> 07:34.120] to pay you because they will have to do that.
[07:34.120 -> 07:36.360] So that's that's my secret reveal announcement.
[07:36.360 -> 07:40.600] I'm actually now secretly working as a script writer for DTS.
[07:40.600 -> 07:45.200] I saw a clip of a lander and a couple of the quadrant people like reacting to something
[07:45.200 -> 07:48.000] and they're like, what the actual fuck is this?
[07:48.000 -> 07:50.520] They're like taking a piece of footage from the track.
[07:50.520 -> 07:54.880] Like he ran me off from and then the audio clip of he ran me off from like a different
[07:54.880 -> 07:55.880] race or somewhere else.
[07:55.880 -> 07:59.260] And it's just like, all right, guys, reaching a little bit, but that's not, I'm not hating
[07:59.260 -> 08:00.260] on drive to survive.
[08:00.260 -> 08:05.680] It's, it's a great drama, but often it's not really what happened, but doesn't matter.
[08:06.000 -> 08:06.480] None of this.
[08:06.560 -> 08:07.640] None of this is real anyway.
[08:07.640 -> 08:08.400] None of this matters.
[08:08.400 -> 08:11.960] This podcast from the one Twitch also not real.
[08:12.800 -> 08:17.840] So, and none of this is real, but anyway, well, shall we,
[08:17.840 -> 08:18.920] shall we wrap up deliveries?
[08:18.920 -> 08:20.640] We've got a couple interesting talking points.
[08:20.640 -> 08:21.760] Who do we want to talk about?
[08:21.760 -> 08:28.920] I think Mercedes and Ferrari, I kind of didn't really pay any attention to the Alpine launch except our F1 Esports creator Tom was there
[08:28.920 -> 08:33.680] live streaming the event, which was quite a little production and a great access and
[08:33.680 -> 08:39.080] a pretty badass stream. That's Thomb, one of the homies. That was really cool. But that
[08:39.080 -> 08:41.480] was that was my experience of the launch.
[08:41.480 -> 08:46.560] I saw the Alpine hung a show car off the roof of Printworks in London.
[08:46.560 -> 08:50.880] Yeah, that's quite wild. Which is like a big music venue. Yeah, if you don't know what that is,
[08:50.880 -> 08:55.760] it's a big music venue in London. It's not a print shop. No, I think it used to be though.
[08:55.760 -> 08:59.440] I think that's like, it's one of those gentrified dance places or whatever.
[09:00.160 -> 09:09.360] This is where we used to print newspapers. Now we're dancing. Now you can do really expensive questionable powders and dance to repetitive music sort of thing.
[09:12.400 -> 09:17.120] Yeah Alpine had their launch blessing but nobody really cared because everyone had already seen
[09:17.120 -> 09:22.880] the photos because there was a photographer, I think, right, I don't want to get anyone in
[09:22.880 -> 09:30.560] trouble but I believe it may have been the Aston Martin photographer that they hired was staying in the Silverstone hotel
[09:30.560 -> 09:35.520] which is like got a view of the straight isn't it yeah it's it's the Hyatt or Hilton that's
[09:35.520 -> 09:40.640] literally on the the straight circuit yeah and uh he uploaded a photo he's like oh there's an
[09:40.640 -> 09:45.280] Alpine driving around and it basically was the new car and new livery and everything.
[09:45.280 -> 09:48.280] So it was like, oh, GG's mate, like no one cares.
[09:48.280 -> 09:49.280] We've already seen it.
[09:49.280 -> 09:50.280] Thanks.
[09:50.280 -> 09:55.240] Yeah, but that looked like they put on a bit of a show, but I think Mercedes and it did
[09:55.240 -> 09:56.960] it had a really interesting reveal.
[09:56.960 -> 09:58.800] It's got a couple of interesting talking points.
[09:58.800 -> 10:02.000] So Toto, obviously we've got a black Mercedes.
[10:02.000 -> 10:04.000] I think that thing is a 12 out of 10.
[10:04.000 -> 10:05.120] That thing is hot.
[10:05.120 -> 10:06.500] I like black race cars.
[10:06.500 -> 10:10.260] Black race cars are fast, but there's a couple problems with a lot of people potentially
[10:10.260 -> 10:14.640] going with dark liveried cars or no painted cars, but we'll get back to that.
[10:14.640 -> 10:21.200] But one of the things that Toto talked about was this is kind of like a engineering, practical
[10:21.200 -> 10:28.000] and a practical and the look of the old Silver Arrow story.
[10:28.000 -> 10:32.000] So back to W25, I think it was 1934, 1935.
[10:32.000 -> 10:36.000] The car was painted white and it was a kilo overweight.
[10:36.000 -> 10:40.000] So they stripped all the paint off down to the aluminum.
[10:40.000 -> 10:44.000] I said that for you for my American friends, of which our audience is a lot of you.
[10:44.000 -> 10:45.280] I meant aluminum.
[10:47.680 -> 10:50.480] Dan, don't look at me like that. Aluminium.
[10:58.400 -> 11:09.320] Blimey! So they stripped the paint off and Mercedes has a lot of bare carbon on their car. That thing looks so damn good. To the point though, a lot of Formula One cars are still overweight. The minimum weight is 798 kilograms.
[11:09.320 -> 11:11.400] And some teams appear to be still struggling.
[11:11.400 -> 11:13.760] At the end of last season, we still had quite a few teams overweight.
[11:13.760 -> 11:18.960] So I wouldn't be surprised to see some teams running a couple of extra kilos also, because
[11:18.960 -> 11:22.040] if they're overweight, that means you don't have flexibility on your weight distribution,
[11:22.040 -> 11:24.800] which is very important for handling and balance.
[11:24.800 -> 11:27.980] So what did you, what did you think of the Mercedes reveal?
[11:27.980 -> 11:35.060] Anything else that comes to mind? Uh, I enjoyed how Patronus Malaysia, I think it was, or
[11:35.060 -> 11:41.000] someone, um, accidentally set the live stream to go an hour early and the camera was directly
[11:41.000 -> 11:46.040] on the car. Oh, so they we also basically own goal
[11:46.080 -> 11:47.680] Mercedes and their partners
[11:47.680 -> 11:49.840] leaked their car beforehand,
[11:49.880 -> 11:51.320] but no, it seemed alright.
[11:52.920 -> 11:53.640] I like it.
[11:54.640 -> 11:55.360] I like it.
[11:55.840 -> 11:56.640] It looks good.
[11:56.720 -> 11:58.280] Someone in the chat is asking me to say
[11:58.320 -> 12:00.400] aluminum and I hate it.
[12:01.320 -> 12:02.320] It sounds nice though.
[12:02.320 -> 12:02.880] It's buttery.
[12:02.880 -> 12:03.840] It's slick.
[12:03.840 -> 12:04.800] It's it's just like a
[12:04.800 -> 12:05.440] better version of something. We're going to go completely's slick. It's it's just like a better version
[12:05.440 -> 12:06.440] of something.
[12:06.440 -> 12:09.800] We're going to go completely off topic now. So no, but like back, back to the, back to
[12:09.800 -> 12:14.100] the weight thing quickly. I saw somebody message about that in chat, the minimum weight of
[12:14.100 -> 12:19.640] a Formula One car includes the driver. So a lighter driver, let's say you've got a guy
[12:19.640 -> 12:26.320] like Yuki in the car, Yuki and DeVries are both quite short and probably very light.
[12:26.320 -> 12:29.880] But if you had two differing people that were, you know, a lot heavier than each other, the
[12:29.880 -> 12:34.000] lighter driver would potentially have an advantage that they could put more ballast on the car,
[12:34.000 -> 12:40.280] which means more flexibility over weight distribution or just a lower center of gravity.
[12:40.280 -> 12:41.280] But yeah.
[12:41.280 -> 12:42.280] Yeah.
[12:42.280 -> 12:45.800] I want to tell me what you think about this, right?
[12:46.300 -> 12:49.900] We've seen a lot of bare carbon this year on the livery reveals, right?
[12:50.100 -> 12:50.600] Yep.
[12:50.800 -> 12:54.900] We've seen Mercedes go basically a bare carbon car with a painted stripe
[12:54.900 -> 12:57.700] from the nose box up over the engine cover towards the back.
[12:57.800 -> 12:58.300] Yeah.
[12:58.600 -> 13:02.500] What do you think would happen if all the team said, you know what?
[13:02.500 -> 13:07.480] We're going to screw off our liveries and we're just going to run as much bare carbon as possible with a couple of indicating marks
[13:07.480 -> 13:15.800] and driver numbers. Would you find that troublesome as a veteran watcher of Formula One or be
[13:15.800 -> 13:20.000] potentially as a novice, we're gonna have to extrapolate to what we think for people
[13:20.000 -> 13:23.120] that might be new to the sport. I personally, well, tell me what you think.
[13:23.120 -> 13:30.080] I was gonna say, I won't take offense that you called me a veteran. First of all, I'm a young spring chicken I'll have you know.
[13:30.080 -> 13:34.720] I'm older than you. Running around after three children, two dogs and a wife keeps
[13:34.720 -> 13:40.080] your young mate as my bones click in this chair. You look good though. Thank you. You look good.
[13:40.080 -> 13:45.440] Thank you. Don't tell me what I already know. Um, what was the question?
[13:46.240 -> 13:51.280] God, no, but like, what do you think, like, what, what if a lot of the team started stripping back
[13:51.280 -> 13:55.760] their liveries and you had, you know, 80% bare carbon cars, would that be difficult?
[13:55.760 -> 14:00.720] I mean, for me, no, I wouldn't care less, but I believe it would get to a stage where
[14:00.720 -> 14:06.440] Liberty Media would turn up and say, sorry guys, you all look the same. This is getting a bit boring watching on telly.
[14:06.440 -> 14:08.360] Could you mandate some color?
[14:09.120 -> 14:11.480] Yeah, I, I don't ever want to see that.
[14:11.480 -> 14:12.360] Cause that's like one of those things.
[14:12.360 -> 14:16.680] It's like, if you can get a technical advantage from running a bare carbon car,
[14:16.840 -> 14:20.760] so be it, but if there's teams that are under the weight limit, I think alpha
[14:20.760 -> 14:22.040] was under the weight limit last year.
[14:22.040 -> 14:27.000] They were one of the few teams not, not petitioning to reduce or increase the minimum weight.
[14:27.000 -> 14:30.000] They started under the limit.
[14:30.000 -> 14:32.440] And then that's when their floor kept disintegrating.
[14:32.440 -> 14:36.000] So they realized, maybe we should put some weight back into the floor.
[14:36.000 -> 14:38.980] Yeah, but yeah, yeah.
[14:38.980 -> 14:42.000] It sounds like the FI are just keeping the minimum weight there and teams are going to
[14:42.000 -> 14:43.000] have to figure it out.
[14:43.000 -> 14:44.480] And if that means a handful of cars or...
[14:44.480 -> 14:48.840] Well, they wanted to reduce it even more didn't they but all the teams pushed back.
[14:48.840 -> 14:52.000] I think it was going to go down by was it two or three kilos?
[14:52.000 -> 14:55.560] Yeah I heard rumours of that and then people were just like nah mate we're still over.
[14:55.560 -> 14:57.560] So I think people are still overweight.
[14:57.560 -> 14:58.560] Yeah.
[14:58.560 -> 15:00.760] Yeah but someone raises a good point.
[15:00.760 -> 15:09.000] Can you imagine Crofty and Brundle trying to commentate if all the cars look the same? No, it's quite difficult to do. Like you would eventually figure it out, but they're trying
[15:09.000 -> 15:14.800] to, you know, split instant. Who is that? Norris Russell. It's just a car, a car collided
[15:14.800 -> 15:17.760] with another car and we'll have to wait and see when it flips over so we can see the color
[15:17.760 -> 15:18.760] on the engine cover.
[15:18.760 -> 15:22.280] Yeah, there's just black pieces of bodywork everywhere. Couldn't tell you what car they're
[15:22.280 -> 15:23.280] from.
[15:23.280 -> 15:26.800] Yeah. Honestly, I, so I made it, I made a TikTok about that talking about the discussion.
[15:26.800 -> 15:31.760] Will the FIA or Liberty Media step in? And I got a lot of really interesting comments about it.
[15:31.760 -> 15:35.520] But like it's seriously something I think they would consider, but I don't want that to happen.
[15:35.520 -> 15:39.680] I'm just saying like I've been around long enough to know what those people are like when they make
[15:39.680 -> 15:43.280] decisions like that. Like this looks weird. We have to do something. And when they say
[15:43.280 -> 15:47.200] they can do it and they could push it through, they could do it probably.
[15:47.200 -> 15:51.640] But um, they could, but I don't think that I think the sponsors would get a bit knocked
[15:51.640 -> 15:58.680] off because the big part of this is visibility and, and you know, seeing your brand and if
[15:58.680 -> 16:02.400] you can't see it cause you've got a tiny sticker on a black car or whatever, eventually even
[16:02.400 -> 16:07.760] sponsors will turn around and say, could you please make it a bit more fucking visible, please? We can't see what we've paid
[16:07.760 -> 16:12.160] 20 million for. Are you talking about Alfa Romeo? Cause they've got like, literally it looks like
[16:12.160 -> 16:16.560] one of those like, you know, Honda show cars, you know, with the Honda civic with like 50,000
[16:16.560 -> 16:20.720] stickers across the side of it. They've got some, uh, they've got some stuff across the
[16:20.720 -> 16:25.760] nose box of that car. Oh yeah. that's probably holding it together. Oh geez,
[16:26.480 -> 16:34.720] oh my god, oh my god. But um, let's, let's, let's switch gears. That Ferrari reveal was something
[16:34.720 -> 16:39.040] wasn't it? That Ferrari reveal? Yeah, I'll give it to them. So if you didn't watch it,
[16:39.840 -> 16:44.880] uh, basically it was at their, is it Fiorano? Is that what they call that test track? Yeah,
[16:44.880 -> 16:45.000] they got their own little test track. And uh, basically everyone was at their, is it Fiorano? Is that what they call that test track? Yeah.
[16:45.000 -> 16:46.240] They got their own little test track.
[16:46.760 -> 16:49.300] And, uh, basically everyone was sitting in the stands.
[16:50.220 -> 16:53.480] They built like this giant sort of, I don't know what you'd call it.
[16:53.520 -> 16:54.340] Stage front.
[16:55.040 -> 16:55.240] Yeah.
[16:55.280 -> 16:57.760] Then just sort of like peeled back the curtains and the
[16:57.760 -> 17:00.680] reveal was the car on track.
[17:00.740 -> 17:08.160] And if you're going to do a reveal, that's how you do a reveal. Bellissimo.
[17:08.160 -> 17:12.720] There was something, there was something so charming about it and I understand how they
[17:12.720 -> 17:18.080] gaslight thousands and millions of Tifosi into still supporting them. It was so fucking
[17:18.080 -> 17:21.520] charming and so cool and it was, it was one of the things it was like literally fuck the
[17:21.520 -> 17:25.760] sponsors, this is Ferrari, Here's the new car.
[17:25.760 -> 17:26.760] Here's the drivers.
[17:26.760 -> 17:31.660] Uh, they had a couple of other, you know, um, people presenting the stuff.
[17:31.660 -> 17:32.720] It was really good.
[17:32.720 -> 17:35.360] It was super slick and I loved every second of it.
[17:35.360 -> 17:37.360] And the car was beautiful.
[17:37.360 -> 17:42.520] If you, you can't not like the Ferrari, but here's, here's something people are like,
[17:42.520 -> 17:44.600] the Red Bull looks the exact same as last year.
[17:44.600 -> 17:50.120] I'm like, have you looked at a, have you looked at a Ferrari lately?
[17:50.120 -> 17:51.120] But I get it.
[17:51.120 -> 17:53.880] I know it's not, it's not have to be for everybody.
[17:53.880 -> 17:56.960] It doesn't have to be controversial here.
[17:56.960 -> 18:03.160] I say within the last few years, at least I'd say Ferrari has changed their livery more
[18:03.160 -> 18:05.480] than what Red Bull has.
[18:05.480 -> 18:07.480] Possible using a matte paint from the gloss?
[18:07.480 -> 18:11.240] Well yeah and like there's random sections of it black and things like that.
[18:11.240 -> 18:15.120] So this year they got quite a large bare carbon part which I don't like I don't think that
[18:15.120 -> 18:16.120] looks very good.
[18:16.120 -> 18:17.760] Nah it looks ugly.
[18:17.760 -> 18:24.180] But they had that god awful green thing as well for mission whatever mission fraudulent
[18:24.180 -> 18:25.520] on the rear.
[18:25.520 -> 18:27.520] It's not not cigarettes.
[18:27.520 -> 18:28.520] Yeah.
[18:28.520 -> 18:32.720] Whereas the Red Bull one is literally like it did say Red Bull on the side pod.
[18:32.720 -> 18:34.480] Now it says Oracle or whatever.
[18:34.480 -> 18:35.480] Yeah.
[18:35.480 -> 18:36.480] I mean, I like it.
[18:36.480 -> 18:38.600] I'm not slating the Red Bull livery.
[18:38.600 -> 18:41.160] I just it's very samey.
[18:41.160 -> 18:45.400] I think Ferrari have changed elements, more elements of theirs over the years
[18:45.400 -> 18:46.200] and what Red Bull have.
[18:47.120 -> 18:51.120] Possibly definitely for the last couple of years, but, uh, I found that Ferrari
[18:51.120 -> 18:56.160] launch event really charming and passionate and fun, and I wish more teams did that.
[18:56.200 -> 19:00.160] Do you rate that above the, uh, uh, the launch they did where
[19:00.160 -> 19:01.560] everyone was dancing around the car?
[19:02.240 -> 19:02.560] Yeah.
[19:02.640 -> 19:03.000] Yeah.
[19:03.120 -> 19:04.040] That's what we want to see.
[19:04.040 -> 19:05.480] The, not the dancing around the car.
[19:05.480 -> 19:06.720] We want to see it on the track.
[19:08.320 -> 19:10.920] That I saw that I never saw it live, but I saw it after the fact
[19:10.920 -> 19:12.560] that was pretty fucking stupid.
[19:14.080 -> 19:16.680] The dancing around the track, dancing around the car.
[19:17.040 -> 19:17.160] Yeah.
[19:17.160 -> 19:18.080] Dancing around the track.
[19:18.120 -> 19:21.480] Are you talking about the, uh, the, the oil protesters at Silverstone
[19:22.520 -> 19:23.400] around the track?
[19:24.160 -> 19:26.320] They were dancing. they were sitting still.
[19:26.320 -> 19:28.320] They were very much sitting still.
[19:28.320 -> 19:31.320] Yeah, but anyway, anyway.
[19:31.320 -> 19:36.640] Have you heard about Alfa Romeo maybe getting in trouble?
[19:36.640 -> 19:44.440] Is this because they were advertising a gambling company possibly from Austria?
[19:44.440 -> 19:45.200] It wasn't regulated in. So it wasn't regulated.
[19:45.200 -> 19:46.200] Yeah, Switzerland.
[19:46.200 -> 19:47.200] Exactly.
[19:47.200 -> 19:48.200] Yeah.
[19:48.200 -> 19:50.520] So, uh, long story.
[19:50.520 -> 19:53.240] We'll keep it short, but long story short, Alfa Romeo, I don't know.
[19:53.240 -> 19:54.240] Has this been concluded or not?
[19:54.240 -> 19:55.240] I'm not sure.
[19:55.240 -> 20:00.480] But basically they were a little bit trouble because stake is a really legitimate gambling
[20:00.480 -> 20:04.600] company that's no, no platforms have had any issue with them at all.
[20:04.600 -> 20:09.540] We haven't talked about that in the last episode, but there's laws in Switzerland which are very
[20:09.540 -> 20:15.680] specific about advertisement and promotion of gambling sites or games of chance as they
[20:15.680 -> 20:22.120] were called. And yeah, they might be in a little bit of trouble with the local government
[20:22.120 -> 20:25.640] there, but they're going to be like, ah don't worry. They, their websites blocked everywhere.
[20:25.640 -> 20:27.400] It's like, yeah, for a reason, probably.
[20:28.920 -> 20:34.280] Did you see the, um, uh, from a launch when it looked like they were in a,
[20:34.280 -> 20:40.640] uh, Jeremy Carl studio and for American listeners, that's basically
[20:40.640 -> 20:41.920] our version of Jerry Springer.
[20:42.560 -> 20:44.000] You are not the father.
[20:44.680 -> 20:45.540] Yeah. Yeah. That was, that was such a weird launch, man. basically our version of Jerry Springer. You are not the father! Yeah yeah that
[20:45.540 -> 20:50.700] was that was such a weird launch man. And then the Final Fantasy 7 victory music.
[20:50.700 -> 20:56.740] And then they fucking leaked it as well so they're interviewing I've forgotten who
[20:56.740 -> 21:02.020] their new head guy is he's not a team principal he's a fuck knows what they're
[21:02.020 -> 21:08.640] doing anyway they're interviewing him and then just in the background they just randomly put a picture up of the new car before anyone had seen it and I was
[21:08.640 -> 21:16.720] just like oh okay that's there's the car then. Yeah that was... cheers guys! Cheers guys!
[21:18.960 -> 21:24.960] Last thing before we get into the little bit about testing and I'm sure I've got some funny
[21:24.960 -> 21:25.280] stories from you must got some funny stories
[21:25.280 -> 21:28.240] from you must have some funny stories from testing as well. And we'll get to those in
[21:28.240 -> 21:33.280] a second. But first, uh, really have told us about what they're doing with the tires
[21:33.280 -> 21:34.280] this year.
[21:34.280 -> 21:40.560] Are you, are you in the loop on this one? Oh, tires loop. I see what you did there.
[21:40.560 -> 21:47.400] Brilliant. Um, no, I'm not actually, I see, um, well they had in a new compound or something
[21:47.400 -> 21:51.240] again, sorry, I've been so busy with work again. I'm going off on a tangent again. I
[21:51.240 -> 21:55.560] don't care. This is what you subscribe and listen to. Exactly. So I have a real life
[21:55.560 -> 21:59.840] job, believe it or not. I know that comes as a shock to most people. I don't just-
[21:59.840 -> 22:10.160] Is your job sitting out front of job center? Yeah. Yeah. They're basically I work in a three man team. Um, and then two weeks ago, uh, it turned into a one man team. So at the
[22:10.160 -> 22:17.880] minute I am, uh, slammed to put it politely anyway. So yes, I'm a little bit out of the
[22:17.880 -> 22:21.720] loop at the minute. Well, that's all right. We got you covered bro. But, um, tell me about
[22:21.720 -> 22:27.880] the tires. Come on, give it to me. Give it to me. Oh yeah, last year. We've had shoes as well. Thank you for noticing that in chat. Yeah,
[22:27.880 -> 22:32.240] that was really good. That was really good. So last year we had C1 to C5 and they would
[22:32.240 -> 22:37.600] pick three per weekend and the hardest one would be the white. The middle one would be
[22:37.600 -> 22:44.840] yellow and the softest one would be red. Now we've got six compounds. We've got the C0
[22:44.840 -> 22:46.680] which is last year's C1 and they've come up with a new C1 which is in the middle. Now we've got six compounds. We've got the C0, which is last year's C1,
[22:46.680 -> 22:48.680] and they've come up with a new C1, which is in the middle.
[22:48.680 -> 22:51.880] So we have six compounds that we can choose from.
[22:51.880 -> 22:54.080] Lower number, harder compound.
[22:54.080 -> 22:56.560] Bahrain, we're gonna use the C1 to C3,
[22:56.560 -> 22:59.160] and Saudi Arabia and Australia will use the C2 to C4.
[22:59.160 -> 23:01.200] So we'll have the same compounds
[23:01.200 -> 23:03.080] in two of the first three races.
[23:03.080 -> 23:08.160] And the other thing, which is kind of like living on the background is we had a lot of
[23:08.160 -> 23:10.160] talk of this last year.
[23:10.160 -> 23:12.680] The front tire was pretty understeer.
[23:12.680 -> 23:17.400] So the new front tire will be stronger this year to generate a little bit more front grip
[23:17.400 -> 23:18.400] relative to the rear.
[23:18.400 -> 23:22.480] Obviously, the teams will balance the setups around this, but the way the tire generates
[23:22.480 -> 23:29.360] grip and falls off and gives up and the sharpness of it should be a little bit stronger this year so we'll I think it'll be quite difficult to pick
[23:29.360 -> 23:33.760] out stuff from winter testing from how the tires behave I think we're gonna have to wait for the
[23:33.760 -> 23:39.040] uh the journalists that are on the ground there to talk to the drivers and um see if they're asking
[23:39.040 -> 23:43.280] the right questions because those are super interesting questions. Yeah the my biggest
[23:43.280 -> 23:45.440] problem with all of this,
[23:45.440 -> 23:47.040] why can't they bring back the names?
[23:47.040 -> 23:49.040] Why can't we have the super hardback?
[23:50.120 -> 23:51.920] And the uber soft.
[23:51.920 -> 23:53.560] The uber soft.
[23:53.560 -> 23:57.360] Yeah, at Williams they had a ultra motherfucker soft,
[23:57.360 -> 23:59.120] whatever the pink one was.
[23:59.120 -> 23:59.960] That was great.
[23:59.960 -> 24:00.780] I love seeing that.
[24:00.780 -> 24:01.640] Yeah, and you could like literally
[24:01.640 -> 24:03.600] just dig your fingernail into it.
[24:03.600 -> 24:04.760] That's how soft it was.
[24:05.000 -> 24:05.600] No, no, just for clarification though, And you could like literally just dig your fingernail into it. That's how soft it was. Hmm.
[24:06.160 -> 24:06.640] Hmm.
[24:06.720 -> 24:07.240] No, no, no.
[24:07.280 -> 24:10.640] Just, just for clarification though, the numbers zero through
[24:10.640 -> 24:13.240] five do not correspond to a color.
[24:13.800 -> 24:16.360] It's whichever tires, the softest of the weekend will be red.
[24:16.640 -> 24:18.480] Middle will be yellow and the hardest will be white.
[24:18.480 -> 24:20.560] So, uh, but the thing is you as.
[24:21.520 -> 24:24.760] If you're overwhelmed by that, don't worry about it because it
[24:24.760 -> 24:25.380] doesn't really matter
[24:25.380 -> 24:29.420] to most of us. It's like you've got a softest tire, you got a hardest tire. If you're overwhelmed
[24:29.420 -> 24:33.840] by it, don't worry, because Ferrari are overwhelmed by it most of the time as well. Stay in, stay
[24:33.840 -> 24:41.120] in, stay in, stay in, out, out, out, Charles. Take it all about. Yeah, geez. Um, I think
[24:41.120 -> 24:48.800] it might be that time that we do that thing. Oh, what were we ching cash our money in and plug a sponsor?
[24:49.500 -> 24:51.700] Let me talk honestly this sponsor.
[24:52.600 -> 24:55.300] I definitely don't use them every race weekend.
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[24:56.900 -> 24:57.700] Definitely don't.
[24:57.900 -> 25:01.400] We definitely do not recommend using these every race weekend
[25:01.400 -> 25:04.700] to use f1 TV.
[25:05.120 -> 25:06.440] Well, we'll explain that after that.
[25:06.440 -> 25:07.800] I'm going to, I'm going to switch over.
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[27:05.480 -> 27:07.320] I'll probably do that too because I'm a sicko.
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[27:36.640 -> 27:41.200] multi viewer, you don't go back. Now I can't watch like I tried to watch a race at a racetrack.
[27:41.200 -> 27:43.760] I was like, nah, fuck that. I'm never coming back here. So.
[27:43.760 -> 27:46.800] watch a race at a racetrack. I was like, nah, fuck that. I'm never coming back here. So
[27:51.040 -> 27:55.280] you're not allowed back at any racetracks. Are you? Yeah, I am. I haven't been banned. It's just like, it's one of those things to talk to somebody from the, from the paddock
[27:55.840 -> 27:59.200] this afternoon. And it's like, when they go to the races, like I'm supposed to be doing something.
[27:59.200 -> 28:04.960] What am I doing here? But yeah. So let's go, let's talk about winter testing.
[28:02.840 -> 28:04.880] But yeah, so let's go. Let's talk about winter testing.
[28:04.880 -> 28:09.280] When testing is changed this year, something that caught me off guard.
[28:09.280 -> 28:12.520] I was like, wait, are you guys serious?
[28:12.520 -> 28:14.000] Why the three days?
[28:14.000 -> 28:17.800] Yeah, three days in Bahrain and then we go straight into a Grand Prix.
[28:17.800 -> 28:22.520] Yeah, but in years past there were three whole sessions of testing.
[28:22.520 -> 28:26.480] You know, it would usually used it used to be like Jerez, Barcelona, Barcelona.
[28:26.480 -> 28:30.240] Then one year it was Jerez, Barcelona, Bahrain.
[28:30.240 -> 28:33.440] And now it's just Bahrain, three days last year.
[28:33.440 -> 28:35.620] This, I mean, for anybody that's not familiar,
[28:35.620 -> 28:38.480] this car is very similar to last year's car.
[28:38.480 -> 28:39.960] I know a lot of people are bringing like updates
[28:39.960 -> 28:41.920] that look like, you know, the new body work,
[28:41.920 -> 28:44.360] but really under the top,
[28:44.360 -> 28:46.400] there's not that much that's changed about these cars.
[28:46.400 -> 28:50.000] Yes, they are new cars, but there's not like a drastic overhaul in regulations like we
[28:50.000 -> 28:51.000] had last year.
[28:51.000 -> 28:54.520] This is, this is just, um, an evolution, this car.
[28:54.520 -> 28:59.920] And I don't think we'll see that many huge changes until we get to 2026 with the new
[28:59.920 -> 29:00.920] engine regulations.
[29:00.920 -> 29:05.280] So, and I don't even think they know what the performance regs look like that.
[29:05.280 -> 29:11.280] I think where we've had these engines now for a while, I think they aren't as dramatic as like
[29:11.280 -> 29:16.320] blowing up every two seconds as when they were like in 2014 and 15 and that. So three days of
[29:16.320 -> 29:21.600] testing, it's not ideal, but it's not as bad as it could be, if that makes sense.
[29:22.160 -> 29:28.040] Man, so I was in 2014, the first year of the V6 turbo hybrids, I was at Force India
[29:28.080 -> 29:29.360] who had a Mercedes power unit.
[29:29.360 -> 29:30.600] That thing was awesome.
[29:31.280 -> 29:36.360] And back in the day, the, the Renault and Red Bull combination, they didn't get a
[29:36.360 -> 29:38.240] whole lot of testing done those first.
[29:38.680 -> 29:39.840] I need to look it up.
[29:39.840 -> 29:42.520] We'll look it up for, um, next episode, maybe, but, uh,
[29:42.680 -> 29:46.720] I remember the Red Bull having holes drilled into the side
[29:46.720 -> 29:51.360] pods because the damn thing just could not keep the temperature down. Yeah I don't want to go
[29:51.360 -> 29:54.640] into details but I heard some absolute horror stories and if you want to see what happened
[29:54.640 -> 30:00.320] you go look at how many laps they did in the 2014 winter tests. They didn't do very many and
[30:00.320 -> 30:07.520] unfortunately that season they also didn't do particularly well. No, tough, big tough.
[30:07.520 -> 30:08.800] There you go.
[30:08.800 -> 30:11.160] But after that, they got a little bit better.
[30:11.160 -> 30:12.900] I think the Renault finally came around
[30:12.900 -> 30:15.780] and they just packaged a monster and didn't leave any room,
[30:15.780 -> 30:19.080] which was interesting because this car,
[30:19.080 -> 30:22.480] or last year's car, it was a new regulation.
[30:22.480 -> 30:26.580] And it was like, by virtue of being quite conservative and calculated
[30:26.580 -> 30:29.360] on everything they did, not being too aggressive in anything.
[30:29.360 -> 30:34.600] Philosophically, it kind of paid off because while other teams were being destroyed by
[30:34.600 -> 30:38.000] porpoising and everything else, Red Bull was like, never could.
[30:38.000 -> 30:42.200] Honda, the Red Bull powertrains, Honda, whatever you want to call it.
[30:42.200 -> 30:43.200] Also very good.
[30:43.200 -> 30:46.000] So that's, that's, that's how testing can go.
[30:46.000 -> 30:50.000] But this this year we've only got one test of three days across
[30:50.400 -> 30:54.900] Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and then guys and gals will be back
[30:54.900 -> 30:57.800] at the track Thursday for the Grand Prix next week.
[30:57.900 -> 30:59.100] Yeah, straight into it.
[31:00.100 -> 31:03.900] Doesn't leave a huge amount of room or time for emergency
[31:03.900 -> 31:05.120] upgrades or anything like that,
[31:05.120 -> 31:06.120] does it?
[31:06.120 -> 31:07.120] No.
[31:07.120 -> 31:14.120] So it sounds like Red Bull only did 182 laps in the 2014 winter test, second to last.
[31:14.120 -> 31:18.080] Thank you, Cinzez, for that Twitch chat, I appreciate that.
[31:18.080 -> 31:20.320] But yeah, they were down horrendously bad.
[31:20.320 -> 31:23.520] I can't imagine doing like that.
[31:23.520 -> 31:26.880] You just sat there like waiting for the car to be on fire.
[31:28.320 -> 31:34.640] Yeah, fun times, fun times. But one of the internet's favorite things to do
[31:34.640 -> 31:40.560] at winter testing is to completely overreact to things that lap times and
[31:42.240 -> 31:48.040] things like that. But shall we, shall we, you know, set the record straight
[31:48.040 -> 31:50.440] about lap times at testing?
[31:50.440 -> 31:55.400] Uh, yeah. If you see some lap times at testing, you should definitely, if your team's looking
[31:55.400 -> 32:00.760] good, go just instead of putting some money on them on the bookies, um, you can just go
[32:00.760 -> 32:05.920] to buy me a coffee. Um, and is it engine breaking pot? Just donate the money there.
[32:05.920 -> 32:06.960] We'll take care of it for you.
[32:06.960 -> 32:09.360] Yeah, you got more chance of us winning.
[32:10.720 -> 32:12.960] Win a bet than you.
[32:14.720 -> 32:19.200] Yeah, don't don't don't don't get too involved in winter testing.
[32:19.200 -> 32:22.080] And it's it's on one hand, it's like we can get into it.
[32:22.080 -> 32:24.560] I think some teams are deliberately hiding the pace.
[32:24.560 -> 32:28.080] But at the end of the day, everybody is like, the only thing you can really do is turn the engine
[32:28.080 -> 32:32.160] down, which is clear because you can see their top speeds and everything else. And then you can
[32:32.160 -> 32:36.320] see the lap times and data. You know, when people are sandbagging, you may not be able to tell by
[32:36.320 -> 32:42.080] how much, but at the end of the day, in order to test your car, to find out the weaknesses of your
[32:42.080 -> 32:47.040] car, you have to put it in those vulnerable places at the high limits of the performance of the car.
[32:47.040 -> 32:50.760] And if you don't do that, you're going to rock up to the next week at the exact same
[32:50.760 -> 32:56.020] track and look like a bunch of dorks, which could happen anyway, even if you are for the
[32:56.020 -> 32:59.800] most part playing your hand by day three of the test.
[32:59.800 -> 33:09.680] Yeah. Yeah, and I think as well, this three day format will produce some funky results and
[33:09.680 -> 33:15.360] times because normally when it used to be split across two weeks, you sort of had your
[33:15.360 -> 33:23.800] first four days of testing or three days, whenever, as like, you're not doing your glory
[33:23.800 -> 33:25.100] runs or anything like that.
[33:25.100 -> 33:26.160] You're just trying to get the mileage in
[33:26.160 -> 33:29.440] and get all your setup baselines and things like that.
[33:29.440 -> 33:31.240] Your aero runs and things like that.
[33:31.240 -> 33:34.000] When then in the second week, sort of like the last day,
[33:34.000 -> 33:35.680] everyone sort of went onto low fuel
[33:35.680 -> 33:39.300] and turned up the PU to see what they could get out of it.
[33:40.320 -> 33:43.880] Yeah, but before we even rock up to testing,
[33:43.880 -> 33:47.680] teams have had some very valuable track time,
[33:47.680 -> 33:52.000] which is not testing, which they call filming days. So I think the Ferrari launch was a
[33:52.000 -> 33:56.320] promotional day, which was limited to like 25 kilometers or something like that. But
[33:56.320 -> 34:02.000] you still get a filming day, which is 100 kilometers on non race tires. It's a different
[34:02.000 -> 34:06.760] compound. It's a different construction. They try to make them similar in terms of stiffness
[34:06.760 -> 34:08.800] so your ride heights aren't all out of whack,
[34:08.800 -> 34:10.720] but people are using those tests
[34:10.720 -> 34:14.160] and apparently Mercedes had quite a few issues.
[34:14.160 -> 34:16.280] They had some misfires and some stutters and stuff
[34:16.280 -> 34:18.920] on their run, I heard that,
[34:18.920 -> 34:20.600] and people are freaking out about it.
[34:20.600 -> 34:22.080] Honestly, they'll be okay.
[34:22.080 -> 34:23.120] They will be okay.
[34:24.000 -> 34:25.640] I think I said to someone on Twitter,
[34:25.640 -> 34:28.000] if you do a shakedown day
[34:28.000 -> 34:30.240] and your car hasn't thrown up a bunch of errors
[34:30.240 -> 34:31.640] or something's burning,
[34:31.640 -> 34:34.880] then I'd be more concerned.
[34:34.880 -> 34:36.200] Well, either that,
[34:36.200 -> 34:38.680] or you've got one of those super,
[34:38.680 -> 34:41.240] and I think a handful of teams,
[34:41.240 -> 34:44.560] probably the bigger teams have these full
[34:44.560 -> 34:46.360] chassis dyno test beds where you can
[34:46.360 -> 34:49.280] test a lot of the systems at the car at once. So that's kind of what it looks like. You
[34:49.280 -> 34:55.640] go full car dyno test bed, make sure everything's happy, gearbox and engine are talking, cooling's
[34:55.640 -> 35:00.200] roughly working, no leaks. You're loading the gearbox, you're loading the engine, you're
[35:00.200 -> 35:09.040] testing everything else. You go to your filming day, you find a couple more Grimmins there, then you fly your cars out to Bahrain this year and it's testing time.
[35:10.560 -> 35:17.280] Yeah baby, so here's a good question. Obviously my background in F1, I wasn't necessarily
[35:18.240 -> 35:24.960] too involved in this aspect, but how valuable is the information you can get from a shakedown?
[35:26.240 -> 35:32.480] but how valuable is the information you can get from a shakedown? I think the shakedowns for me were like this. It's your first opportunity to make sure one,
[35:32.480 -> 35:35.640] all of your sensors are working. Do you know where the ride height of the car is? Which
[35:35.640 -> 35:39.800] is the most like one of the first order impacts to the way your aero is performing. So are
[35:39.800 -> 35:44.000] your ride heights working? Is your suspension measurements working? Are your ride height
[35:44.000 -> 35:46.600] lasers working,
[35:46.600 -> 35:50.320] all the other sensors that tell you about the load cells that measure the force and
[35:50.320 -> 35:55.600] all the linkages and everything else. If those are working right, you can be happy that when
[35:55.600 -> 36:01.760] you roll out and testing, you can very quickly compare your car to your models and very quickly
[36:01.760 -> 36:07.940] identify things that are not as you predicted, And then either fix the car or fix the models
[36:07.940 -> 36:09.960] so that you're getting ready in your simulations
[36:09.960 -> 36:11.560] for race one or race two or race three,
[36:11.560 -> 36:14.600] or your development targets for three months time
[36:14.600 -> 36:17.040] are much more robust and more accurate.
[36:17.040 -> 36:20.480] So shaked at any time the car's on track,
[36:20.480 -> 36:22.000] that is golden opportunity.
[36:22.000 -> 36:25.080] And you have to A, make sure everything's working properly
[36:25.080 -> 36:26.980] because garbage in, garbage out.
[36:26.980 -> 36:29.640] And if you can't measure what's happening with the car,
[36:29.640 -> 36:30.860] you can just look at the stopwatch
[36:30.860 -> 36:33.160] and Formula One's not about looking at the stopwatch
[36:33.160 -> 36:36.140] anymore, that's obvious.
[36:36.140 -> 36:38.440] It's about getting the less,
[36:38.440 -> 36:40.060] those tiny details and understanding
[36:40.060 -> 36:42.440] how the tires are performing, how the air is performing,
[36:42.440 -> 36:44.120] making sure your sensors are happy.
[36:44.120 -> 36:45.740] And that's huge and it sounds so boring,
[36:45.740 -> 36:48.300] but like literally that is shakedown day.
[36:48.300 -> 36:50.820] I couldn't wait in my last, you know,
[36:50.820 -> 36:53.500] was it from 2018 to 2021?
[36:53.500 -> 36:54.780] I was a simulator performance engineer
[36:54.780 -> 36:55.900] and went to testing.
[36:55.900 -> 36:58.740] One of my big jobs was model correlation
[36:58.740 -> 37:01.620] to make sure that everything we've simulated
[37:01.620 -> 37:02.740] matches what we're getting on track.
[37:02.740 -> 37:09.080] And if those sensors aren't working right, I'm sad. And we're spending a lot of time trying to fix those stuff. That is, that is
[37:09.080 -> 37:14.080] gold dust. But, um, I'll tell you what else is gold dust and is something that we should
[37:14.080 -> 37:19.520] now use as a tagline for this podcast. And that's the line that you just said earlier
[37:19.520 -> 37:29.000] at garbage in garbage out. That's the garbage in That's the new engine breaking motto. No, no, that tagline is not these nuts, Thomas.
[37:29.000 -> 37:30.000] That's not it.
[37:30.000 -> 37:31.000] It is literally garbage in, garbage out.
[37:31.000 -> 37:35.000] Welcome to the Engine Breaking Podcast, another episode of,
[37:35.000 -> 37:40.000] I opened up Twitter today and this is all you got, garbage.
[37:40.000 -> 37:44.000] I opened up Twitter and immediately doubled my medication.
[37:44.000 -> 37:49.640] Yeah, exactly. And to be fair, can we, can everybody, if you're listening to this podcast and you're
[37:49.920 -> 37:54.520] and you're new to us or you're a long time listener of you or Twitch stream friend,
[37:55.280 -> 37:56.520] be nice to people on the internet.
[37:57.400 -> 38:01.920] I don't want to see you guys being dickheads to people like, like seriously, the
[38:01.920 -> 38:03.440] season is going to be way too long.
[38:03.440 -> 38:05.880] We got what, 23 races?
[38:05.880 -> 38:09.400] It's not that deep.
[38:09.400 -> 38:10.840] Whoever hurt you, forgive them.
[38:10.840 -> 38:11.840] Let it go.
[38:11.840 -> 38:12.840] Have fun.
[38:12.840 -> 38:13.840] Be nice to people.
[38:13.840 -> 38:15.520] We'll do our best, alright?
[38:15.520 -> 38:20.800] Yeah, I mean, not that I built my Twitter following off the back of being a toxic bellend,
[38:20.800 -> 38:21.800] but yeah.
[38:21.800 -> 38:23.200] Yours is different.
[38:23.200 -> 38:26.560] If you can't take a fucking joke. That's obviously a fucking joke.
[38:26.560 -> 38:32.480] I mean, come on. Yeah, it might be your account is a joke. Much like my career. Garbage in
[38:32.480 -> 38:40.120] garbage out, man. I said baby tagline. Let's get him. Oh my God. But I think just before
[38:40.120 -> 38:43.920] we go into some of the other stuff like rules of testing, and I think you'll see this is
[38:43.920 -> 38:46.520] like it's with anything, keep the car running.
[38:46.520 -> 38:47.400] The car has to be running.
[38:47.400 -> 38:49.060] If you have a huge issue,
[38:50.920 -> 38:52.880] you have to avoid those at all costs.
[38:52.880 -> 38:56.380] And you can't stop the car to fix a sensor,
[38:56.380 -> 38:57.640] unless it's like, a sensor.
[38:57.640 -> 38:58.800] So let's talk about this.
[38:58.800 -> 39:01.040] You hinted at it a minute ago,
[39:01.040 -> 39:02.920] like before when you had two four-day tests
[39:02.920 -> 39:06.520] or three four-day tests, you would structure your test at the start of it.
[39:06.520 -> 39:10.840] You'd be doing your arrow rakes and everything else, which you tweeted about today.
[39:10.840 -> 39:15.600] I can't wait to see all those hideous like pieces of aluminium piping hanging off the
[39:15.600 -> 39:16.600] car.
[39:16.600 -> 39:21.080] You start with, yeah, you start with, you start with gathering the data on the really,
[39:21.080 -> 39:23.600] you know, obscure stuff to make sure that's performing right.
[39:23.600 -> 39:25.840] And then at the end of the test, you get into the performance.
[39:25.840 -> 39:30.520] But condensing all that into three days, man.
[39:30.520 -> 39:32.040] Stressful.
[39:32.040 -> 39:33.040] It is stressful, but um,
[39:33.040 -> 39:37.880] There's not been a huge amount of regulation changes there between sort of.
[39:37.880 -> 39:38.880] Yeah.
[39:38.880 -> 39:43.000] So in theory, I mean, a lot of the chassis's are still going to be the same.
[39:43.000 -> 39:47.960] PUs are going to be more or less the same because they're frozen.
[39:47.960 -> 39:48.960] Yep.
[39:48.960 -> 39:53.240] I think you'll see a lot of teams because you've got a lot of new, I mean, like, look
[39:53.240 -> 39:55.840] at, look at the side pods that everybody's rocking up with this.
[39:55.840 -> 39:58.080] Mercedes got this quarter pod, half pod weird thing.
[39:58.080 -> 39:59.920] And we don't even know if that's what they're going to rock up with it.
[39:59.920 -> 40:00.920] The test.
[40:00.920 -> 40:05.680] Um, the Aston Martin has those super duper, like they've got the, the
[40:05.680 -> 40:08.920] sidepots come out and then there's the launch ramp that goes down to the back
[40:08.920 -> 40:09.280] floor.
[40:10.880 -> 40:17.560] I officially tweeted, uh, scarves and I have put in my petition to have that
[40:17.640 -> 40:20.720] Aston Martin concept name, the bobsled pods.
[40:21.480 -> 40:23.040] Cause they look like a bobsled track.
[40:23.960 -> 40:30.040] It's just right down into the feet and the diffuser. Yeah. That's, that's, that's really good.
[40:30.040 -> 40:36.360] Did you did it stick? Yeah, no, he agreed. Okay. The old bobsled ramps, but I think you're
[40:36.360 -> 40:41.080] gonna be seeing a lot of instrumentation and just just to just to clarify, because you
[40:41.080 -> 40:45.160] posted on engine mode 11 on Twitter, some of these pictures of these huge, they
[40:45.160 -> 40:47.200] call them aerodynamic rakes.
[40:47.200 -> 40:48.600] And those you can't run those.
[40:48.600 -> 40:53.280] Yeah, I think you can run them in FP1 on some tracks, but like teams are really trying to
[40:53.280 -> 40:56.880] understand all these concepts that we've thrown at the car in the wind tunnel.
[40:56.880 -> 40:57.880] Are these making sense?
[40:57.880 -> 41:02.380] And the only way to check those, those pressure distributions and flow fields is to put these
[41:02.380 -> 41:04.920] big massive rakes as they're called.
[41:04.920 -> 41:08.380] It could, it could hang way off the car. They could be in the mid body, they
[41:08.380 -> 41:12.100] can be behind the front wheels. It could be, you know, back near the diffuser. They can
[41:12.100 -> 41:16.140] even be, we've seen them hang off the back of the car. Remember some of those diffuser
[41:16.140 -> 41:20.060] rakes that like literally just like a foot off the back of the car.
[41:20.060 -> 41:30.520] A Ferrari one that looked like it was someone's fence had gone through a tornado. Yeah, yeah, it was like all twisted and but yeah, so those those are things and the teams
[41:30.520 -> 41:32.360] don't get a chance to run those very much later.
[41:32.360 -> 41:36.360] And you've just come up with a new concept, check that and a lot of the time it's a to
[41:36.360 -> 41:37.960] check that the car is working properly.
[41:37.960 -> 41:42.920] And the other part of that is to say, right, this is how the car is performing.
[41:42.920 -> 41:44.440] Do our tools match what's happening?
[41:44.440 -> 41:46.200] Because if we if we didn't predict that,
[41:46.200 -> 41:47.120] we've got some other problems,
[41:47.120 -> 41:48.720] and then you correct those things in your tools
[41:48.720 -> 41:50.480] and say, okay, this matches the car.
[41:50.480 -> 41:52.620] And now we can have higher confidence
[41:52.620 -> 41:54.640] as we're developing the car throughout the season,
[41:54.640 -> 41:55.460] unless you've been naughty
[41:55.460 -> 41:57.600] and spent too much money on five guys.
[41:57.600 -> 42:00.400] Yeah, and you'll sometimes hear throughout the season,
[42:00.400 -> 42:03.040] people talking about correlation issues.
[42:03.040 -> 42:05.280] And that's basically where real life doesn't
[42:05.280 -> 42:11.360] match up with the wind tunnel or the simulator or whatever. And that's what they're trying to iron out.
[42:11.360 -> 42:16.720] Exactly. Just get data in. They want good data in and they get good performance out, but
[42:17.840 -> 42:26.240] not always, not always. But what else we got? I mean, I think the weekend, if you're looking at what to expect,
[42:26.240 -> 42:30.000] if you're gonna bet on people to be fast or slow
[42:30.000 -> 42:31.600] for race one, don't do that.
[42:31.600 -> 42:33.640] Just go to buy me a coffee and engine braking
[42:33.640 -> 42:37.040] and that'll pay a better use of your money, honestly,
[42:37.040 -> 42:39.200] because winter testing, we don't know.
[42:39.200 -> 42:42.040] If we saw last year, Mercedes and the car looked difficult,
[42:42.040 -> 42:44.000] but I think Mercedes were close to the top
[42:44.000 -> 42:46.680] or at the top of the time sheets at the final day of testing last year.
[42:46.680 -> 42:48.840] And it's like they rock up to Bahrain.
[42:48.840 -> 42:52.640] It's like, well, they had two fucking cars last year, didn't they?
[42:52.640 -> 42:53.640] Yeah.
[42:53.640 -> 42:54.640] They changed it.
[42:54.640 -> 42:56.560] That's they sort of regularish looking car.
[42:56.560 -> 42:58.840] And then all of a sudden it's ha ha, I fooled you.
[42:58.840 -> 43:01.720] I told you we've got an even slower car.
[43:01.720 -> 43:02.720] Suckers.
[43:02.720 -> 43:04.680] Oh no, we fooled ourselves.
[43:04.680 -> 43:05.000] The reverse jinx. No. an even slower car. Suckers. Oh no, we fooled ourselves.
[43:05.000 -> 43:07.000] The reverse jinx.
[43:07.000 -> 43:08.000] No.
[43:08.000 -> 43:14.000] Oh, but yeah, so the test will basically be biased to the first day, making sure that
[43:14.000 -> 43:16.160] you understand what you've got.
[43:16.160 -> 43:20.440] Second day, tuning some performance into it and balance and making sure it's right.
[43:20.440 -> 43:23.800] And that'll happen since the first run of the first day, make sure the balance is happy,
[43:23.800 -> 43:25.160] the driver's happy, the car.
[43:25.160 -> 43:27.360] And then by the third day, you'll see them
[43:27.360 -> 43:28.320] probably doing some high fuel,
[43:28.320 -> 43:31.160] maybe a full race distance simulation.
[43:31.160 -> 43:32.940] Here's a funny one.
[43:34.360 -> 43:38.280] So, actually, we'll come back to the funny one in a second,
[43:38.280 -> 43:40.000] but one thing that teams will also do
[43:40.000 -> 43:41.680] is test their cooling systems.
[43:41.680 -> 43:44.240] You might see them stopping in the pit lane
[43:44.240 -> 43:48.800] and just idling their car and seeing how long they can hold an idle because for the race start, you know,
[43:48.800 -> 43:52.760] you statistically you know how long race starts can happen if you're at the front of the grid.
[43:52.760 -> 43:56.160] If you're qualifying on pole, you're sitting stationary for a very long time. So your car
[43:56.160 -> 44:01.760] has to be able to basically if it gets too hot, it blows a valve and you lose all your
[44:01.760 -> 44:05.120] water out of your radiators and your car goes.
[44:08.480 -> 44:09.200] And it doesn't. It doesn't make exactly like that. Yeah, it does. It does that.
[44:13.760 -> 44:19.120] Another thing teams will try to do is do a fuel run out test where they will run the fuel system down as low as possible. And if you're a polite team, you will do that
[44:19.120 -> 44:23.440] just before the lunch break, which usually runs through in some people's performance
[44:23.440 -> 44:27.560] runs. Imagine you're trying to get a qualifying run in it at the lunch break and, uh,
[44:28.080 -> 44:33.700] the fucking force India racing point Aston Martin is like, Hey, we, uh, we did
[44:33.700 -> 44:36.840] our fuel run out test and we accidentally timed it wrong and we ran out of fuel
[44:36.840 -> 44:39.440] five minutes before the end of the session and they've got to go away and
[44:39.440 -> 44:40.560] fix some fuel system issues.
[44:40.560 -> 44:43.820] So you do that before lunch or at the end of the day, but did you know that
[44:43.820 -> 44:46.240] there's a test that they don't do until the end of the last
[44:46.240 -> 44:49.240] day? Or at the end of the day?
[44:49.600 -> 44:54.200] Is this the reverse gear in case we detonate the gearbox test?
[44:54.520 -> 44:59.400] Yeah. So that's one of the tests that teams like to save until late in the day,
[44:59.400 -> 45:02.720] because like you can't use reverse in the pit lane, but you often will need to use
[45:02.720 -> 45:05.680] reverse on the track. It's a pain in the ass to get the car into reverse.
[45:05.680 -> 45:06.660] It's very fiddly.
[45:07.020 -> 45:08.520] Um, but sometimes.
[45:09.200 -> 45:13.720] Yeah, the reverse gear is not really, it's not really built for power or for speed.
[45:13.720 -> 45:15.880] It's built to be like, I'm here.
[45:16.520 -> 45:18.480] It's built because it's in the regulations.
[45:18.560 -> 45:19.920] It's not built to be used.
[45:20.520 -> 45:20.880] Yeah.
[45:21.240 -> 45:24.000] Like you use it once and then let's say you've written off the gearbox.
[45:24.560 -> 45:26.760] Not quite that bad, but it's literally like that.
[45:26.760 -> 45:30.760] And sometimes it's like, they don't know it's like, you know, reverse gear selection is
[45:30.760 -> 45:32.480] what you can grenade the gearbox.
[45:32.480 -> 45:35.480] Imagine you're in first gear and reverse gear simultaneously.
[45:35.480 -> 45:37.800] What happens then?
[45:37.800 -> 45:41.640] It gets reduced to its component form and looks like a Meccano set.
[45:41.640 -> 45:42.640] Yeah, exactly.
[45:42.640 -> 45:45.760] You got a little bit of a iron ferrous slushy
[45:45.760 -> 45:49.760] that comes out of the drain plug when you come back in or you get blessed with a hole in the
[45:49.760 -> 45:54.880] side of the gearbox casing. Yeah, that's and when you pull all that lovely slushy liquid out, it's
[45:55.920 -> 46:02.480] whoever broke it has to drink it. Guys, honestly, that is one of the most disgusting smells is
[46:02.480 -> 46:08.320] differential fluid on a normal race car or the gearbox lubricant gearbox loop just stinks.
[46:08.320 -> 46:09.320] I don't know what it is.
[46:09.320 -> 46:14.880] It smells like rotten McDonald's, but that's that's also ironic because I'm pretty sure
[46:14.880 -> 46:18.080] McDonald's food has a half life of like 100 years.
[46:18.080 -> 46:20.120] There's so many preservers in that shit.
[46:20.120 -> 46:21.120] There's no way.
[46:21.120 -> 46:22.120] No, it doesn't.
[46:22.120 -> 46:23.120] Ain't no way.
[46:23.120 -> 46:27.140] No, I mean, I've eaten it for 34 years and I'm still alive.
[46:27.140 -> 46:27.620] So.
[46:28.420 -> 46:33.580] Dude, that's honestly one of my, my guilty things is, uh, when I go shopping,
[46:33.940 -> 46:36.380] there's a Macca's at the Tesco near me.
[46:37.760 -> 46:39.980] I was like, Oh, I haven't had lunch yet today.
[46:40.020 -> 46:40.500] Bummer.
[46:40.520 -> 46:44.420] I guess I'll just have to have McDonald's.
[46:44.460 -> 46:47.520] What is it with us becoming, I say becoming, being fat shits.
[46:47.520 -> 46:51.240] Cause last, last week, last time it was in and out burger versus five guys.
[46:51.240 -> 46:52.720] And now we're bringing up McDonald's.
[46:53.220 -> 46:53.500] Yeah.
[46:53.500 -> 46:55.320] It's not, it's just a guilty pleasure.
[46:55.320 -> 46:56.680] It's not, it's not even that nice.
[46:56.680 -> 46:58.740] It's just like, Hey, real quick.
[46:58.740 -> 47:00.960] What's your, what's your Macca's order while we're on it.
[47:01.580 -> 47:02.520] Ah, man.
[47:02.560 -> 47:05.400] It's so I'm, I like to flirt around the menu.
[47:05.400 -> 47:08.600] I don't have like a cut and paste order.
[47:08.600 -> 47:12.200] But I do like the new McCrispy they've got out.
[47:12.200 -> 47:16.400] Yeah, I don't know if our American friends have the McCrispy,
[47:16.400 -> 47:17.800] but it's a fried chicken sandwich.
[47:17.800 -> 47:20.600] It actually looks like real chicken when you bite into it.
[47:20.600 -> 47:22.200] It doesn't look processed.
[47:22.200 -> 47:31.280] I mean, I'm sure it is processed within an inch of his life, but still. It's nice. Yeah. But, uh, the crispy slaps or a just a classic big
[47:31.280 -> 47:40.680] Mac, man. Big old Mac. I think, I don't know what, how the fuck we've ended up here, but
[47:40.680 -> 47:45.400] big Macs, I don't know if it's a UK thing or global, but they always look like they've
[47:45.400 -> 47:48.760] already been in a car crash when you open the box.
[47:48.760 -> 47:52.240] It's like, it's all slammed and like slanted.
[47:52.240 -> 47:54.040] We're getting way off topic.
[47:54.040 -> 47:57.360] And any of you sickos still listening to the podcast, we adore you.
[47:57.360 -> 47:59.760] Yeah, but I'm craving McDonald's right now.
[47:59.760 -> 48:02.520] Remember, if you're listening in the car, give us a little toot toot.
[48:02.520 -> 48:05.880] We'll hear you.
[48:10.180 -> 48:11.440] Oh, shall we, uh, shall we rock on to our little predictions poll that you put out on the Twitter nuts?
[48:11.660 -> 48:12.000] Yeah.
[48:12.000 -> 48:13.140] Is that what we got next?
[48:13.180 -> 48:16.560] Well, we have, I asked the audience.
[48:17.560 -> 48:18.600] That's that's all of you.
[48:18.720 -> 48:18.900] Yeah.
[48:18.900 -> 48:22.160] I mean, we appreciate you guys and we cannot wait for the season to do a
[48:22.160 -> 48:25.840] full season of formula one with you fraudulent sons of guns.
[48:25.840 -> 48:29.920] I know and if this is your first episode, congratulations for lasting this long.
[48:30.640 -> 48:31.200] Yeah.
[48:31.200 -> 48:33.600] Which is something my wife also says to me and um...
[48:34.640 -> 48:36.160] It's your first episode, dear.
[48:38.080 -> 48:39.600] Thanks for hanging around.
[48:41.600 -> 48:46.560] Right, yeah, sorry, what was the question? Yeah Yeah so basically I asked the Twitterverse
[48:47.680 -> 48:52.320] what's your favorite livery and the results surprised me a little bit.
[48:53.680 -> 49:02.560] But not too much. So let's go bottom up because no good story started top down. Right
[49:02.240 -> 49:03.240] No good story started top down. Right.
[49:03.240 -> 49:09.760] In last place with a measly 3.7% of the votes.
[49:09.760 -> 49:13.120] Which we had 784 responses to this.
[49:13.120 -> 49:15.320] So everybody that participated, thank you.
[49:15.320 -> 49:19.880] And if you don't participate, Elon's going to make Twitter even worse.
[49:19.880 -> 49:22.280] So go ahead and follow Engine Breaking on Twitter.
[49:22.280 -> 49:23.280] Yeah.
[49:23.280 -> 49:26.480] 3.7% last place
[49:26.480 -> 49:32.760] Williams I'm afraid. Really? Yeah. I thought I was there in person I thought
[49:32.760 -> 49:36.360] that car looked pretty damn good. Oh yeah I forgot you got, how did you black that?
[49:36.360 -> 49:41.680] Some young guy. Come on tell everyone that's listening how you managed to black
[49:41.680 -> 49:45.840] your way into Williams. Wait did we not talk about talk about this? I don't think so. Williams was after the last episode.
[49:46.480 -> 49:48.080] Oh, I forgot.
[49:48.080 -> 49:53.560] So, uh, I was invited with a handful of, uh, other e-sports creators.
[49:53.960 -> 49:57.880] Uh, there are a bunch of buddies that I'm used to seeing all the time around
[49:57.880 -> 50:01.240] on the internet about F1 and e-sports and some FIFA guys out there.
[50:01.280 -> 50:04.720] Um, we got invited to see their reveal, uh, guys and gals.
[50:04.760 -> 50:05.880] Sorry. Not just dudes.
[50:05.900 -> 50:06.760] I say dudes.
[50:06.760 -> 50:07.560] I call my girlfriend dude.
[50:07.560 -> 50:09.280] She doesn't like that and I'm working on it.
[50:09.960 -> 50:10.600] I don't mean it like that,
[50:10.600 -> 50:11.560] but it was.
[50:11.560 -> 50:12.320] It was super cool.
[50:12.320 -> 50:12.920] It was.
[50:13.360 -> 50:15.160] It was a bunch of the traditional media.
[50:16.000 -> 50:17.880] You know your your pen and paper,
[50:17.880 -> 50:19.400] your your video,
[50:19.400 -> 50:20.080] whatever else,
[50:20.120 -> 50:21.880] and then a handful of content
[50:21.880 -> 50:23.280] creators to just share that story
[50:23.280 -> 50:24.000] with our audiences.
[50:24.000 -> 50:26.280] So we got to see the car reveal.
[50:26.280 -> 50:31.000] They talked about their new partnership with Gulf Oil.
[50:31.000 -> 50:32.320] We got to see their eSports lounge.
[50:32.320 -> 50:37.040] We got to set a some lap times on the F1 simulators, which is pretty good.
[50:37.040 -> 50:40.040] Team at Marduk won that one.
[50:40.040 -> 50:41.800] Alex Gillen called.
[50:41.800 -> 50:42.800] He got second.
[50:42.800 -> 50:43.800] GG's.
[50:43.800 -> 50:47.740] Tomo finished somewhere else. And there's a couple of sweats and a couple of gamers.
[50:48.340 -> 50:49.780] But, um, that was super fun.
[50:49.780 -> 50:52.060] We get to see their, um, what do you call it?
[50:52.960 -> 50:53.560] They had a museum.
[50:53.560 -> 50:55.120] They've got a museum with all their old formula cars.
[50:55.120 -> 50:58.680] That was so, so cool to see so much history in that space.
[50:58.680 -> 50:59.860] It was, it was fantastic.
[51:00.220 -> 51:01.080] And then just hung around.
[51:01.080 -> 51:03.520] And after that got Nando's with a couple of the people on the way back
[51:03.520 -> 51:04.640] on our way through Oxford.
[51:04.640 -> 51:04.920] So.
[51:04.800 -> 51:06.640] And then just hung around and after that got Nando's with a couple of the people on the way back on our way through Oxford. So
[51:11.040 -> 51:13.280] Uh, I like I noticed how you didn't say in that where you finished out of everyone
[51:20.400 -> 51:21.760] I was like I was they gave prizes for the top six and I was seventh or something out of like 12
[51:28.160 -> 51:35.400] Uh, so I play f122 probably five times ever so that wasn't particularly surprising. Yeah, same same to be honest. Yeah. So yeah, there you go. That was Blake's big day out.
[51:35.400 -> 51:40.540] It's so cool. And it's cool to see like we saw. We've been seeing a lot of content creators
[51:40.540 -> 51:45.640] and all these reveals and car launches. And I think that also,
[51:48.880 -> 51:50.900] it goes to show you that content creation and,
[51:53.160 -> 51:55.080] I think we're more content creators than influencers. We're not influencers, that's something different,
[51:55.080 -> 51:58.240] but I think we're gonna start to play a bigger picture
[51:58.240 -> 52:00.880] in the content economy surrounding Formula 1.
[52:00.880 -> 52:02.440] I think Formula 1 understands it now
[52:02.440 -> 52:05.280] that they have a better way to reach their audiences.
[52:05.280 -> 52:07.740] So if you're listening,
[52:07.740 -> 52:10.540] we'd love to come do some content for you.
[52:10.540 -> 52:11.760] Get us involved.
[52:11.760 -> 52:15.240] I will sound just this interested in real life
[52:15.240 -> 52:17.080] as I do on the podcast.
[52:17.080 -> 52:17.920] Exactly.
[52:17.920 -> 52:18.740] Nailed it, mate.
[52:18.740 -> 52:21.880] I'm gonna blow some smoke up your ass now
[52:21.880 -> 52:23.640] because I understand that somebody
[52:23.640 -> 52:25.840] at the Williams launch recognized you.
[52:25.840 -> 52:26.840] Oh yeah.
[52:26.840 -> 52:30.520] Someone that likes to dye their hair.
[52:30.520 -> 52:31.520] Yeah.
[52:31.520 -> 52:32.520] He's nice.
[52:32.520 -> 52:33.520] Uh, Mr. Albon.
[52:33.520 -> 52:36.360] Cause I used to, you know, you've made it in life.
[52:36.360 -> 52:37.360] Uh, yeah.
[52:37.360 -> 52:40.080] And also working with him in the simulator for the past four or five years.
[52:40.080 -> 52:50.160] It's like, don't worry about that bit. Um, one of the most genuine, be nice and, um, insanely underrated talent.
[52:50.180 -> 52:51.480] I'm looking to see him.
[52:52.080 -> 52:53.040] Rocking and rolling this year.
[52:53.080 -> 52:54.120] What a, what a nice student.
[52:54.120 -> 52:57.120] It was good to see Alex, but, uh, he was in really good
[52:57.400 -> 52:58.660] spirits ready for the season.
[52:58.660 -> 53:02.240] And, uh, I think that they know that the car is last year was
[53:02.240 -> 53:03.520] not particularly excellent.
[53:03.680 -> 53:06.320] And, uh, I think they're on the rebuild phase right now to get some performance back into the car is last year was not particularly excellent and I think they're on the rebuild
[53:06.320 -> 53:10.320] phase right now to get some performance back into the car and uh what better dude to do
[53:10.320 -> 53:15.040] it than Mr. Albon legend. Yeah I think Williams is one of those teams where I don't think
[53:15.920 -> 53:19.840] anybody necessarily actively dislikes them and they all want them to do well.
[53:20.800 -> 53:27.800] I think that's very sound. But nobody rates their livery because they're in last place in our poll.
[53:27.800 -> 53:29.360] So can't win them all.
[53:29.360 -> 53:30.360] Sorry Williams.
[53:30.360 -> 53:31.360] Unlucky.
[53:31.360 -> 53:32.360] Unlucky.
[53:32.360 -> 53:36.120] Next up on the P9.
[53:36.120 -> 53:38.760] And I agree with this fully.
[53:38.760 -> 53:41.960] AlphaTauri with 14 votes.
[53:41.960 -> 53:43.640] Wait, hang on.
[53:43.640 -> 53:47.000] That can't be right. Oh fuck.
[53:47.000 -> 53:55.000] Now this is way... Williams is like... Google, what did you guys do?
[53:55.000 -> 53:57.000] I don't know.
[53:57.000 -> 54:00.000] I'll tell you who I think is dead last.
[54:00.000 -> 54:02.000] Who do you think is dead last?
[54:02.000 -> 54:06.560] I think Alpine, the regular blue edition with nine votes. We just roasted Williams.
[54:06.560 -> 54:07.560] I know.
[54:07.560 -> 54:09.200] Why has this not worked?
[54:09.200 -> 54:11.360] Anyway, it's the Google poll thing.
[54:11.360 -> 54:12.360] Fuck sake Google.
[54:12.360 -> 54:13.360] Right.
[54:13.360 -> 54:14.360] Yeah.
[54:14.360 -> 54:17.720] So we've just spent 10 minutes slacking off Williams.
[54:17.720 -> 54:19.200] We can skip Williams when we get to him.
[54:19.200 -> 54:26.240] So Alpine dead last with nine votes 1.1% oof.
[54:26.240 -> 54:29.720] Fraudulent polls by fraudulent people on fraudulent podcasts.
[54:29.720 -> 54:35.320] Anyway Alpine you actually suck the most in terms of livery.
[54:35.320 -> 54:38.080] We didn't invite it to your lunch either it was in London.
[54:38.080 -> 54:39.080] Fuck you.
[54:39.080 -> 54:42.080] Take your shitty fucking car.
[54:42.080 -> 54:45.040] No I'm just kidding.
[54:45.040 -> 54:47.960] Take your baguette mobile and get out of here.
[54:48.080 -> 54:49.000] Um, yeah.
[54:49.040 -> 54:49.440] Okay.
[54:51.320 -> 54:54.480] Uh, I mean, I don't, I don't actually hate the Alpine livery.
[54:54.720 -> 54:55.320] I don't either.
[54:55.360 -> 54:56.240] I think there's worse.
[54:58.240 -> 55:01.000] Am I going to pick that over some of these absolute bangers?
[55:01.760 -> 55:02.120] Nah.
[55:02.160 -> 55:02.840] And you had to pick one.
[55:02.840 -> 55:11.480] This is, this wasn't a like rate them on a scale of 10. It's like pick your favorite. He too, from the back.
[55:11.480 -> 55:19.120] Alpha Tauri. Alpha Tauri. I'm sorry. I liked it. No, I'm over it. I liked it, man, with
[55:19.120 -> 55:25.080] a little bit of the red. I think the bit of the red makes it worse.
[55:25.080 -> 55:29.060] I think if it wasn't with it wasn't the right it should be like another really dark vague
[55:29.060 -> 55:30.060] car.
[55:30.060 -> 55:32.600] I don't know what's next.
[55:32.600 -> 55:33.600] What's next?
[55:33.600 -> 55:37.720] Yeah, I believe.
[55:37.720 -> 55:41.080] Is Macca's I'm not into the papaya McLaren.
[55:41.080 -> 55:46.440] Sorry, you know, I don't like about it the most fucking Google Chrome
[55:46.440 -> 55:58.360] wheel covers. I love those. Oh, you guys, you guys are savages. Um, next. Oh, this is
[55:58.360 -> 56:07.780] how are we going to cope with this? Red Bull racing? What is that? What have you guys done? I can't 26 you guys. All
[56:07.780 -> 56:14.820] 26 of you must be how much you guys getting paid? Christian Horner has refreshed the web
[56:14.820 -> 56:21.660] page 26 times to do those votes. Oh my God. The Williams has beat the Red Bull in the
[56:21.660 -> 56:25.720] livery. Oh, so they're not last.
[56:25.720 -> 56:27.440] Like we just spent 10 minutes talking about.
[56:27.440 -> 56:28.760] They've actually beaten Red Bull.
[56:29.280 -> 56:29.600] Yep.
[56:29.840 -> 56:30.480] Next up.
[56:32.400 -> 56:34.120] Uh, who's next up?
[56:34.120 -> 56:35.440] Is it Aston Martin?
[56:35.800 -> 56:37.560] It's Haas.
[56:37.560 -> 56:38.520] Where's that Haas?
[56:38.520 -> 56:40.080] This fucking Google forms.
[56:40.080 -> 56:41.280] I'm never doing this again.
[56:41.320 -> 56:41.640] Oh yeah.
[56:41.640 -> 56:42.040] You're right.
[56:42.040 -> 56:43.440] Haas 43 votes.
[56:44.320 -> 56:44.960] Not too bad.
[56:48.880 -> 56:50.880] I dunno, man. It was all right. It's just another black and red car. Yeah, man It's better than what I have in the past
[56:51.080 -> 56:56.360] As I'm surprised to see the Aston Martin up next honestly people like the green
[56:56.760 -> 57:01.880] Yeah, I mean it looks it does look like a very sharp car. It looks good. It's a nice color. Hmm
[57:02.720 -> 57:04.080] Next up
[57:04.080 -> 57:08.440] This is third place now, isn't it? Third place.
[57:08.460 -> 57:11.920] Your first podium finisher of the best delivery of 2023 is.
[57:11.920 -> 57:14.000] Everybody thump along on your desks. If you're at work,
[57:14.920 -> 57:17.600] annoy your cubicle mates, your colleagues, your mom, your dad.
[57:17.640 -> 57:20.720] If you're in a car, rip up that e-brake and do a fat burnout.
[57:24.160 -> 57:29.040] I don't care if you're on the highway, it's worth the pile up. It's Alfa
[57:29.040 -> 57:32.560] Romeo in P3.
[57:32.560 -> 57:39.060] I can see that. Our buddy Matt Emmes did a little video on YouTube. I'm going to type
[57:39.060 -> 57:40.400] it in the Twitch chat right now.
[57:40.400 -> 57:41.400] Yeah, he did.
[57:41.400 -> 57:45.640] He was out at their factory and got a little talk about the
[57:45.660 -> 57:50.380] livery in the car. It looks awesome. And that car is that that reveal car is
[57:50.380 -> 57:55.420] actually getting auctioned off. We don't need to plug it is auction off the
[57:55.420 -> 57:57.460] reveal car. So you can win a car.
[57:57.540 -> 58:00.380] I like how you just said I'm going to put a link in the chat and you literally
[58:00.380 -> 58:04.540] just wrote in the chat Matt Amy's his name. Yeah, but that's not a little
[58:04.540 -> 58:08.160] fight. I believe that you can type his name into Google and find him I
[58:08.160 -> 58:15.240] believe in him. Fine fine fine. Sorry now P2. I. Who's chronically P2 in life?
[58:15.240 -> 58:27.960] Ah damn near P3 if they're not lucky but it's gonna be. Faraday. I like how we both win. I'm surprised it's as high as P2 to be honest.
[58:27.960 -> 58:29.920] I like, I don't hate it, but.
[58:29.920 -> 58:30.920] I love it.
[58:30.920 -> 58:31.920] Yeah?
[58:31.920 -> 58:32.920] Okay.
[58:32.920 -> 58:33.920] I love it.
[58:33.920 -> 58:34.920] But we've all, but I.
[58:34.920 -> 58:38.000] Whopping, nah I'm done with Ferrari, they're not paid us, we're not talking anymore about
[58:38.000 -> 58:40.000] P2, that's it, done.
[58:40.000 -> 58:41.000] Get rekt.
[58:41.000 -> 58:45.240] A whopping 46.3% of the vote goes to Mercedes
[58:46.320 -> 58:49.120] Nearly half of the people that voted in this
[58:50.440 -> 58:58.160] Mercedes was the best-looking I voted for Mercedes. It looks it looks like the black the carbon Patronus turquoise
[58:59.520 -> 59:00.560] I
[59:00.560 -> 59:07.600] Like it. I'm just surprised that the majority of people like the landslide victory considering
[59:07.600 -> 59:11.400] I've seen so many people saying, oh, black car.
[59:11.400 -> 59:14.320] Having a little whinge.
[59:14.320 -> 59:20.080] I think it's great. I think it's great. So I think none of the only thing that's surprising
[59:20.080 -> 59:25.880] me is that Alpine doesn't surprise me that car Alpine McLaren yeah I'm down with those
[59:25.880 -> 59:29.440] guys being at the bottom of the pile in terms of delivery I'm not crazy about this McLaren
[59:29.440 -> 59:30.440] papaya.
[59:30.440 -> 59:32.920] Nobody gives a fuck about Red Bull.
[59:32.920 -> 59:33.920] Yeah.
[59:33.920 -> 59:34.920] Livery.
[59:34.920 -> 59:42.560] So yeah okay there you go and we did some bonus question I did some yeah I asked people
[59:42.560 -> 59:44.600] to chuck in some hottest takes.
[59:44.600 -> 59:45.840] You want to go through
[59:45.840 -> 59:49.200] the you want to go through the best? I'm start from top to bottom. What's your first one?
[59:49.200 -> 59:56.120] Let's see if our list is synced. So I literally have a raw output and I just went through
[59:56.120 -> 01:00:00.320] and just picked a couple. Okay, what do you got? I've got a couple I think are pretty
[01:00:00.320 -> 01:00:04.960] good. Give me this. Give me the spicy ones. And this is no, this is not our hot take segment.
[01:00:04.960 -> 01:00:08.000] This is you guys and we're not going to spend too much time on them,
[01:00:08.000 -> 01:00:11.600] but some of them are funny as fuck.
[01:00:11.600 -> 01:00:18.520] So hot takes, hot takes, mind you hot takes, not even just a couple of warm takes. This
[01:00:18.520 -> 01:00:21.240] one is so fucking toxic.
[01:00:21.240 -> 01:00:30.440] I'm subscribed to it anyway. And it's sort of semi-related to what I said at the beginning of the show.
[01:00:30.440 -> 01:00:36.520] Mick Schumacher gets more points as a reserve driver in a race this year than one of the
[01:00:36.520 -> 01:00:39.320] Haas drivers gets during the whole season.
[01:00:39.320 -> 01:00:52.180] Oh, oh, that's, that's, that is, that is insane. Oh god, sorry. Oh, subscribed. Um, Dan calls
[01:00:52.180 -> 01:00:59.040] helmet to ask for his job back. I don't have his number. And even if I did, I think helmets
[01:00:59.040 -> 01:01:04.880] probably blocked me to be honest. Oh, here's a good one. Alonzo to upset everyone at Aston
[01:01:04.880 -> 01:01:05.920] Martin and take performance away from the team while Alpine have's a good one. Alonzo to upset everyone at Aston Martin and take performance
[01:01:05.920 -> 01:01:09.960] away from the team while Alpine have had a good year. We asked you guys for hot takes,
[01:01:09.960 -> 01:01:20.080] not the probability. Yeah, Jesus, come on. What else you got? Logan Sergeant, world drivers
[01:01:20.080 -> 01:01:29.720] champion. Whoever wrote that, I want the name of your dealer. Yeah, like what is that? What kind of powders or is that organic stuff? I don't know.
[01:01:29.720 -> 01:01:35.180] There's another one here. Hulk will finally podium. Listen, I wanted hottest takes, not
[01:01:35.180 -> 01:01:40.040] the most inconceivable possibility known to man.
[01:01:40.040 -> 01:01:46.920] Well, I'm on the dark lord train. Alonzo will not only win a few races, but he will also get a few podiums.
[01:01:46.920 -> 01:01:50.800] He will finish his best of the rest and have points tallied that is closer to the top three
[01:01:50.800 -> 01:01:53.640] than the rest of the grid to him.
[01:01:53.640 -> 01:02:01.200] That also, I need access to your dealer's email address or WhatsApp or Snapchat or something,
[01:02:01.200 -> 01:02:02.200] man.
[01:02:02.200 -> 01:02:03.200] Hmm.
[01:02:03.200 -> 01:02:09.280] Haas will finish top five in the constructors.
[01:02:09.280 -> 01:02:16.780] How how on the Nando's spice scale, how spicy is that?
[01:02:16.780 -> 01:02:17.780] Not very.
[01:02:17.780 -> 01:02:18.780] No, I think it could.
[01:02:18.780 -> 01:02:20.640] I think it could happen, but I honestly.
[01:02:20.640 -> 01:02:23.920] Ah, it's a medium spice.
[01:02:23.920 -> 01:02:28.820] Yeah, I think it will. At the end of the season, you'd say that was a hot take.
[01:02:28.820 -> 01:02:30.900] So I think it's a probability that they won't do it.
[01:02:30.900 -> 01:02:32.740] So maybe it's a little bit warmer than a medium.
[01:02:32.740 -> 01:02:37.260] It's like a four or six, maybe.
[01:02:37.260 -> 01:02:42.260] Here's a couple of these are speculations as far as after the season, Hamilton wins
[01:02:42.260 -> 01:02:45.360] the World Drivers Championship and then Norris and Leclerc
[01:02:45.360 -> 01:02:53.600] move to McClure. One of those. Yeah, there's a lot of Hamilton wins his eighth then retires.
[01:02:53.600 -> 01:03:00.600] Which I can see that as a possibility. I think if they're uncompetitive this year he might
[01:03:00.600 -> 01:03:05.320] retire anyway. Like what else does he need to prove? You know?
[01:03:05.320 -> 01:03:05.600] Okay.
[01:03:05.600 -> 01:03:08.320] So you think regardless, this is it, this is his last season.
[01:03:09.040 -> 01:03:10.640] I think he's still got plenty more.
[01:03:10.680 -> 01:03:12.320] Like he's still got it for sure.
[01:03:12.720 -> 01:03:17.360] But when you've achieved that much, can you really, if Mercedes
[01:03:17.360 -> 01:03:19.640] can't turn this year around, are you going to hang around for the new regs?
[01:03:20.960 -> 01:03:22.200] What, 2026?
[01:03:22.880 -> 01:03:23.200] Yeah.
[01:03:23.280 -> 01:03:24.400] Three more years in him.
[01:03:25.460 -> 01:03:26.460] I don't know. I don't know.
[01:03:26.460 -> 01:03:29.720] Lewis is 38 years old.
[01:03:29.720 -> 01:03:30.720] He will be, yeah.
[01:03:30.720 -> 01:03:31.720] How old's Alonzo?
[01:03:31.720 -> 01:03:32.720] He's still going.
[01:03:32.720 -> 01:03:33.720] I mean, granted, he is fueled by...
[01:03:33.720 -> 01:03:34.720] 41.
[01:03:34.720 -> 01:03:35.720] Okay.
[01:03:35.720 -> 01:03:36.720] Yeah, he, witchcraft.
[01:03:36.720 -> 01:03:37.720] Yeah, Alonzo's 41.
[01:03:37.720 -> 01:03:48.640] Alonzo is still fueled by the hatred of 2008.
[01:03:48.640 -> 01:03:50.640] Yeah, exactly.
[01:03:50.640 -> 01:03:52.640] I don't know, man.
[01:03:52.640 -> 01:03:54.640] Is there any more super spicy ones in there?
[01:03:54.640 -> 01:04:00.640] Speaking of Alonzo, someone's put Lance Stroll will continue his streak and retire Fernando Alonzo.
[01:04:00.640 -> 01:04:11.920] What's keeping him going? Who, Alonso? Yeah. I don't know. The shit housery. Yeah,
[01:04:11.920 -> 01:04:16.600] I just fucking, I reckon he just loves it. Um, you know, the going no first place finishes
[01:04:16.600 -> 01:04:23.840] the season for Ferrari. I think that's a hot take. I think that's a hot take. Do you think
[01:04:23.840 -> 01:04:27.040] I hope they don't win any cause it's a because if they win the championship, I've got to drive to
[01:04:27.040 -> 01:04:28.640] Maranello in a Fiat Panda.
[01:04:28.640 -> 01:04:30.120] Have you secured the car yet?
[01:04:30.120 -> 01:04:33.920] If anybody doesn't know, here's the quick version.
[01:04:33.920 -> 01:04:38.680] Dan basically said if Ferrari win drivers or constructors championship, he's going to
[01:04:38.680 -> 01:04:44.060] hand write an apology letter and deliver it to Maranello in a Fiat Panda.
[01:04:44.060 -> 01:04:49.920] We may or may not have roped a couple people into this trip. Yeah, for all the Ferrari slander that I continuously
[01:04:49.920 -> 01:04:55.920] put out on this podcast. Yeah, but I mean, I like it. I like the tiffos, you don't get me wrong.
[01:04:55.920 -> 01:05:09.000] I just, I just enjoy the drama. Exactly. Love it. Um, I think everything else in there. There's nothing like I was really surprised and hats off to all of you.
[01:05:09.000 -> 01:05:12.000] There was nothing really super toxic in there, which I was expecting.
[01:05:12.000 -> 01:05:16.000] My second favorite was hottest hot take of 2023.
[01:05:16.000 -> 01:05:18.000] Yo mom.
[01:05:19.000 -> 01:05:23.000] Yeah, there's someone in here that wrote all Americans are frauds apart from you.
[01:05:25.560 -> 01:05:26.080] Hot take. Yeah. Um, here's someone in here that wrote, all Americans are frauds apart from you. Hot take.
[01:05:26.080 -> 01:05:26.580] Yep.
[01:05:27.440 -> 01:05:28.880] Um, here's, here's one.
[01:05:29.520 -> 01:05:30.640] Oh, I saw this one.
[01:05:31.040 -> 01:05:32.600] This one's kind of actually spicy.
[01:05:32.640 -> 01:05:36.400] The biggest frauds of the 2023 season will be DeVries and Hamilton.
[01:05:37.240 -> 01:05:38.640] Who hurt this person?
[01:05:39.200 -> 01:05:40.280] Who hurt this person?
[01:05:44.640 -> 01:05:49.960] Alvin, Alvin or Gasly will get a call up to Red Bull for 2024.
[01:05:49.960 -> 01:05:51.680] I don't think Gatsby is ever going back there.
[01:05:51.680 -> 01:05:54.560] I think he's quite happy and tucked up in bed with Alpine.
[01:05:54.560 -> 01:05:56.840] Yeah, he's done.
[01:05:56.840 -> 01:05:59.400] So I think that's it for the hot takes.
[01:05:59.400 -> 01:06:00.760] You guys are gonna have to try a little bit harder.
[01:06:00.760 -> 01:06:04.560] Those were like, I think the hottest we had was like a seven out of 10.
[01:06:04.560 -> 01:06:05.520] Get good.
[01:06:05.520 -> 01:06:11.600] The hottest take was my one saying that Mick Schumacher is going to sub in and get a podium.
[01:06:11.600 -> 01:06:17.480] And then that's to mine, and we're just going to cut to a shot of Nico Hulkenberg giving
[01:06:17.480 -> 01:06:22.060] you remember that there's that's um, fuck I forgot what race it was, but where there's
[01:06:22.060 -> 01:06:27.520] like this Alonzo just sitting there in his helmet just staring off into space.
[01:06:27.520 -> 01:06:30.760] I think when he was in Ferrari I think he just lost the championship I think it was
[01:06:30.760 -> 01:06:33.840] he's just like a thousand yards dead inside.
[01:06:33.840 -> 01:06:34.840] Yeah.
[01:06:34.840 -> 01:06:35.840] Dead inside.
[01:06:35.840 -> 01:06:40.700] But um are you uh let's let's talk about testing is now testing is here are you doing any live
[01:06:40.700 -> 01:06:42.440] stream for testing?
[01:06:42.440 -> 01:06:49.120] So I cannot commit to saying I will, because in the time between the two podcasts last
[01:06:49.120 -> 01:06:53.200] time in this one, my team all quit their job.
[01:06:53.200 -> 01:06:58.720] So I'm doing three people's worth of work at the moment.
[01:06:58.720 -> 01:07:02.960] But get this, sorry, I'm in the middle of burping, sorry.
[01:07:02.960 -> 01:07:03.960] That's okay.
[01:07:03.960 -> 01:07:05.320] There we go. Edited that out.
[01:07:05.320 -> 01:07:12.400] Get this, in a turnaround of events.
[01:07:12.400 -> 01:07:22.160] Guess who's been invited to do some streaming content with WTF1 for the testing?
[01:07:22.160 -> 01:07:23.160] Not you.
[01:07:23.160 -> 01:07:24.160] Me.
[01:07:24.160 -> 01:07:28.680] No way! Turn around. What now that Maddie's gone, they're like,
[01:07:28.680 -> 01:07:34.080] finally we can have the engine mode. That will be spectacular. Don't plug them. Screw
[01:07:34.080 -> 01:07:43.280] those guys. I'm just kidding. I was like, wait, wait, the tables have turned. They have.
[01:07:43.280 -> 01:07:47.240] Oh, okay. So I guess we'll be keeping an eye out for the socials for
[01:07:47.240 -> 01:07:48.600] a details regarding that.
[01:07:48.760 -> 01:07:49.720] I didn't say I was going to do it.
[01:07:49.720 -> 01:07:50.800] I'll just say, I'm just saying.
[01:07:51.760 -> 01:07:53.120] Oh, you fucking dork.
[01:07:53.680 -> 01:07:54.680] We don't know if you can do it.
[01:07:54.680 -> 01:07:57.560] Cause you might be stuck at ball and chain the desk job, brah.
[01:07:58.200 -> 01:07:59.160] Um, exactly.
[01:07:59.160 -> 01:08:03.120] I did again off topic, but I don't care.
[01:08:04.640 -> 01:08:11.480] I did, uh, Liverpool this weekend for work, which is like a four and a half hour drive there
[01:08:11.480 -> 01:08:14.740] and then a four and a half hour drive back.
[01:08:14.740 -> 01:08:17.620] And I'm doing it again tomorrow.
[01:08:17.620 -> 01:08:21.940] So I mean, I'm just out on the road.
[01:08:21.940 -> 01:08:22.940] Out on the road again.
[01:08:22.940 -> 01:08:27.040] It's like I'm traveling around like I did in F1.
[01:08:27.040 -> 01:08:28.040] It's all come back in the day.
[01:08:28.040 -> 01:08:29.040] Full circle.
[01:08:29.040 -> 01:08:30.720] You can't get away from it.
[01:08:30.720 -> 01:08:35.900] Well here's, you know what, dude, I think I found the perfect way for you to settle
[01:08:35.900 -> 01:08:45.260] your argument or whatever with Maddie from formerly of WTF1 now of P1.
[01:08:45.260 -> 01:08:47.960] Mattie plays escape from Tarkov.
[01:08:47.960 -> 01:08:50.200] I've come to find out.
[01:08:50.200 -> 01:08:51.640] Oh fucking scav him.
[01:08:54.440 -> 01:08:55.820] Mattie plays escape from Tarkov.
[01:08:55.820 -> 01:08:58.040] I think we need to line up this this
[01:08:58.040 -> 01:09:00.820] this match factory one V1 me on
[01:09:00.820 -> 01:09:06.000] factory biznatch GG dog water.
[01:09:06.000 -> 01:09:08.000] Get the fuck off my game.
[01:09:08.000 -> 01:09:10.000] Get good scrub.
[01:09:10.000 -> 01:09:12.000] I'll
[01:09:12.000 -> 01:09:14.000] sort it out.
[01:09:14.000 -> 01:09:16.000] I'll sort it out.
[01:09:16.000 -> 01:09:18.000] But, ok so TBC
[01:09:18.000 -> 01:09:20.000] I think what I'm going to be doing for
[01:09:20.000 -> 01:09:22.000] testing is a couple
[01:09:22.000 -> 01:09:24.000] of hours after the tests are over each
[01:09:24.000 -> 01:09:26.380] day I'll do a little performance summary.
[01:09:26.380 -> 01:09:27.900] So I'll look at the data,
[01:09:27.900 -> 01:09:30.460] if hopefully the data is working and our workbooks work,
[01:09:30.460 -> 01:09:31.700] and I'll do the performance summary
[01:09:31.700 -> 01:09:33.260] after each day of testing.
[01:09:33.260 -> 01:09:36.220] So that'll be Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
[01:09:37.620 -> 01:09:41.180] And then Monday or Tuesday, we'll do a little roundup.
[01:09:41.180 -> 01:09:46.480] Oh yeah, yeah, we'll do a post-testing podcast before the race.
[01:09:46.480 -> 01:09:47.920] Yeah, that'll be perfect.
[01:09:47.920 -> 01:09:53.480] So you guys will see what regular scheduled format is now calling.
[01:09:53.480 -> 01:09:54.480] I'll call it Brake's Notebook.
[01:09:54.480 -> 01:09:59.200] No, I'll call it Ted's Notebook that I wrote for Ted, but we do the notebook because he
[01:09:59.200 -> 01:10:00.200] doesn't do his notebook.
[01:10:00.200 -> 01:10:01.200] We do his notebook.
[01:10:01.200 -> 01:10:02.200] Not really.
[01:10:02.200 -> 01:10:03.200] No, no, no.
[01:10:03.200 -> 01:10:04.200] It is us.
[01:10:04.200 -> 01:10:05.600] Let's just start that vicious rumor. It's us. I don't want to want that. I don't want to't know. No, no, it is us. Let's just start that vicious rumor. It's us.
[01:10:08.600 -> 01:10:11.240] I don't want to want that. I don't want to do that. And I don't think so. Not going to do that.
[01:10:11.240 -> 01:10:13.880] If you want to, if you want us to do that and you want to start that rumor,
[01:10:13.880 -> 01:10:16.160] just give us another little toot toot in your car.
[01:10:17.080 -> 01:10:20.200] Rip up that e-brake on the highway.
[01:10:20.200 -> 01:10:22.800] Do your best Max Verstappen impersonation.
[01:10:22.840 -> 01:10:24.960] Do a big fat sick burnout.
[01:10:25.120 -> 01:10:28.800] Yeah. And then come out of it unscathed.
[01:10:28.800 -> 01:10:30.240] Obviously we want you guys to be safe.
[01:10:30.240 -> 01:10:32.320] And just say simply simply lovely.
[01:10:34.040 -> 01:10:36.040] But anyway, shall we call it there?
[01:10:36.920 -> 01:10:38.560] Yeah, fuck this.
[01:10:39.160 -> 01:10:42.760] We'll see you guys next week after winter testing.
[01:10:42.760 -> 01:10:48.300] If you haven't left us a glorious 5 star rating on Apple and Spotify, whatever.
[01:10:48.300 -> 01:10:51.300] And if you're listening to this on YouTube, you should definitely leave us a comment.
[01:10:51.300 -> 01:10:55.900] Just say you love your podcast to tell your nan, tell your nan about it and toot toot.
[01:10:55.900 -> 01:10:56.700] All right.
[01:10:57.200 -> 01:10:57.700] Yep.
[01:10:57.900 -> 01:10:59.300] Big up your nans.
[01:10:59.900 -> 01:11:01.300] Big up your local butchers.
[01:11:02.400 -> 01:11:07.120] Big up your local In-N-Out or McDonald's, big up all of you
[01:11:07.120 -> 01:11:11.760] lot that have just caused collisions on the highway from ripping your e-brakes up, and
[01:11:11.760 -> 01:11:15.280] everyone that's going to get an anti-social dispersal order for doing toot-toots in the
[01:11:15.280 -> 01:11:19.360] street and you can all fuck off.
[01:11:15.220 -> 01:11:17.300] you